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This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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This is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Kaplis. We've
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got another hour to talk about. Oh my goodness, it's
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been a tough, tough week and the last week in Colorado,
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and it's just it's sad. I'm really just sad and
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generally just depressed about where things stand right now when
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you see the vitriol online and you see our children
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being afraid of going to conservative events and speaking up
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because they just saw their friend and leader influencer murdered
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on TV, but also going to school and having to
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deal with school shootings. And I talked a little bit
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with Beverly about my frustration in Colorado working on that issue.
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There's lots going on in Durango School District too that
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we've been exposing on Rocky Mountain FO. It's called nine
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R School District and just I think it is competing
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with Jefferson County for the most woke school.
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District in Colorado.
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So we're going to bring Will Traichman on with the
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Mountain States Legal Foundation on at five thirty six to
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talk about those issues. But in the meantime, I wanted
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to first give a shout out to Brandy Bradley. She's
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a representative. Her son was in a terrible accident. He's
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doing okays, getting better, but he's got a lot of
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issues from the accident. He needs a lot of prayers.
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So if everybody can ping Brandy online or just send
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prayers and hope that Cole heals up, heals up, well,
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it's terrifying to have your child in that situation and
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my heart goes out to her. And then I want
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to talk to you guys about a post I just saw.
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I actually saw this yesterday. Kyle Clark was talking about
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our our service that we did at Brave Church yesterday,
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and instead of just saying this was a great group
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of Christians that got together to honor one of their
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favorite pace well, he says a number of far right
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leaders packed a church outside Denver for a remembrance of
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Charlie Kirk. That was a memorial service, a political rally,
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and a soft launch for a ministry leader's potential run
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for governor. It's one of the readers or the tweets out.
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Nine News is so broken, complete garbage. This merger with
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Next Her cannot happen soon enough. Ryan, how much do
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you know about Next Her? Are they any less woke
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than the folks that have nine News Tanga?
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It's quite the opposite, as a matter of fact, because
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there are many stations throughout the country that when they
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are under the Next Star umbrella, Uh, they're Cheryl Atkinson.
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You may have heard of her. She has a show
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that airs on those stations a lot of the nationwide
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and the form of syndication they tend actually to lean.
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To the right.
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Wow.
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Yeah, So there's a lot of speculation. Well, there's a
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lot of speculation, and I have mixed feelings about this.
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I want to preface it that way, but that.
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What we're seeing, and it's generally not good for journalism
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and for localism, is the mergers of these companies, these buyouts,
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et cetera, are eliminating newsrooms throughout and Denver's a top
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twenty market nationally, and yet we've seen that happen already
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in the form of a Channel two I believe it
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was and Katievr Fox thirty one here in Denver, and
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that eliminated one of those newsrooms and they melded into one.
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Now there's thought, there's speculation that Fox thirty one and
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nine they merge, and then who's left and how many
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news departments are there on the television side in the
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Denver market, because you would still have obviously CBS Colorado
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Channel four, you would still have Denver seven ABC affiliate.
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And that then we've seen this and it used to
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be just like the.
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Smaller markets like Marquette, Michigan or something like that. But
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now it's happening in Denver, and you know, there's speculation
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that it might be nine News the one that gets
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cleaned out.
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Well, I mean, I think that gosh, Kyle, which is
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so mean.
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He's just got such a.
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Mean spirit about him, a vengeful spirit about him. And
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with two daughters, the way he treats conservative women is
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shocking to me. God forbid one of his daughters grows
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up to be conservative.
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Oh, let's hope so.
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And run for politics, like run for office.
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I would love that.
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Goodness gracious.
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But another comment or on Twitter says nine News in
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Kyle Clark, can you define far right?
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Were you there?
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Yeah, that's what really stood out to me. Was it
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really far right?
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But what is far right to him? Over to window right?
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Far right is probably you know, I don't know barely
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one inch to the right of left time lunatic.
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Right of Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. Oh, is that
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far right? Anything to the right of them? I honestly
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feel that's how people in his silo view us. Is
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that anything remotely conservative, that's far right you will never hurt. Here,
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for instance, Kyle Clark say the term or, and he's
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not the only one far left.
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It's far right, right left. There's no far left to them.
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That does not exist in their world.
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Well, and I was talking to the gentleman Victor Marx
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who's thinking about running for governor, and Victor, I love Victor.
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He's a great guy.
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He would make a big splash and cost some waves
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in that primary. But I was saying to Victor, you know,
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it's not like it's not your messaging.
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That you necessarily need to worry about.
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It's how the liberal media is going to frame you,
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and then how the Democrats are going to use the
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tens of millions of dollars to drive that messaging in
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about you and defining you through ads and flyers and
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just a you know, an onslaught of influence over the voters.
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And that's what our candidates are a little naive about sometimes.
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And I was too.
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You go in thinking I've got this great policy platform.
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I'm going to talk about kids and crime and cost
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of living, and I've got these solutions, and I'm a
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great person, i have a great experience, I'll do a
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great job.
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And then you you look.
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Up and there's a tsunami of negative messaging that just
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powers over you.
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And we don't have the money or.
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The media machine to fight back, which is why we
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started Rocky Mountain Voice.
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I mean, we've got all of you on the radio.
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We've got some good conservative journalists out there, but we
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I mean, we pale in comparison when we try and
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go up against the liberal media here in Colorado and
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the liberal or the Democrat machine, the money, the organization,
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the power that they have in Colorado to really drive messaging.
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And I think voters are just naive.
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I don't think they know the truth about the people
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who are representing them on the left or what we
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really stand for on the right. And that was the
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most frustrating thing for me as a candidate was not
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voters not being able to know who I was, what
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my heart was, and what my solutions were. I mean, right,
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it cracks me up that I ran on all the
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things that they're saying, we should really do this now
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because your on income tax and reducing the bureaucracy and
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you know, keeping our kids safe at school and reducing crime.
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Not the Democrats are running that, but everybody is generally
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talking about it.
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But you couldn't get the message out.
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So that's my biggest fear for twenty six for Colorado candidates,
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whether it's the congressional candidates, the governor candidates, you know,
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the state level candidates. How are you going to get
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your message through the fog that is the liberal media
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and the money that is spent to define you and tell.
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Voters who you are, even if it's a lie. Like,
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what do you think about that?
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Brian, I'm sorry you're talking to me. I've got a
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lot of things going on back.
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You never mind, it was really important, profound question.
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You're talking about platforms, exposure.
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It's talking about money and the influence and the ability
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to get your message out as a candidate, and whether
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you can actually break through the liberal media and the
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amount of money that they spend against you to define
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you without you having any say in how they define you.
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Let me ask it to you this way, because I
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think this is you know, it's the devil's bargain if
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you were too and I'm sure you did this assessment
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this and I've had this conversation with Representative Lauren Bobert,
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with other in particular, I'm gonna call it what it is,
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conservative women with whom Kyle Clark seems to have some
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kind of bizarre, twisted fixation.
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Dennis, what kind of fetish.
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Daniel Jerinsky being another one.
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There are many, There are many, but you were one,
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baby b That would be another one. You were one,
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and he really focused in and you don't want to
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hear this, but the furry thing, which what again was
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happening and in fact, this shooter they're getting a lot
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of information from his transgender roommate lover whatever you want
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to call.
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It, at a video.
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Guess what, you know, the whole furry thing. So to
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roll out this canard like it's a fantasy, it's a
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feature of your imagination, like Jared Poulis said with Daniel
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Jerensky about the trendy Arago gangs in Aurora.
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No, it was not.
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So they're trying to gaslight in that form. And then
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you have a decision to make, Heidi, and that is
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do you try to bat that in other spheres.
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Or do you go right into the lions Den.
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Sit down face to face with Kyle Clark and have
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it out. So, I mean, what went into that decision
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for you? Because was there a winning equation for you
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that included that kind of engagement with the very media
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that's looking to take you down.
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I mean, yeah, we tried that a little bit and
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it they just didn't even give me a chance to respond.
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They asked the question in such a crazy way. You're like,
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that is not what I said. Jimmy asked me what
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the craziest thing I'd heard on the campaign trail was,
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and I said, a lot of parents are telling me
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that there's kids in the schools that are dressing up
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like animals.
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It's called furries.
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And it turned into this big thing and we weren't
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talking about it after that. We just pivoted back to
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what we cared about crime kids cost a living. But
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the media took it ran with it, and of course Jared.
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Pull Us made some comment.
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The minute she said that I knew I win the
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election because they knew they were going to take that
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SoundBite and just ram it down my throat.
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I know we got to break. But this bear's mentioning
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this is the Kyle Clark pattern. He's not the only
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one that left it does that. First of all, it's
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not happening. You're crazy for thinking that high that they
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even would happen. Secondly, though, if it did happen, well,
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these would be marginalized kids that are just looking for
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their own identity.
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Bully Heidi, that's what it turned into. Let's call this
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what it is.
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Because that evolved into yeah, it's happening, and as a
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matter of fact, we should be sensitive to these kids
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because a lot of them are gay or trans and
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they don't not express themselves, and we should let them
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meow or bark and be animals in the classroom. It
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turned into oh, not only is it happening, but how
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dare you?
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Hi?
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Do you big it for not endorsing it or giving
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them that compassion and understanding to allow them to express
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themselves the way that they want to do it. Hold on, Kyle,
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I thought it was not happening. You said it was
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not happening, and then it turned into what it turned into.
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Yeah, that's Kyle. He's paidon. I believe he's.
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Incentivized by the Democrats to do this to destroy the right.
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But that's my conspiracy theory. So Kyle, have at it.
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But I know we need to go to break. This
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is Heidikanal filling in for Dan Caplis. We'll come back
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afterwards and talk more about all the crazy stuff going
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on in this beautiful state. We'll see after the break.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
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Welcome back.
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This is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis.
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Ryan.
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In just a little bit, I'm going to bring on
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Will Traickman, who's the head of Mountain States Legal Foundation,
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complaints on Durango's school district. It's also called nine R
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School District La Platta County down in southwest Colorado, and
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it's a like used to be the wild Wild West,
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like the best of Colorado. It's beautiful and it's turned
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into one of the most liberal areas of our state,
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and they have a school board race coming up and
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there's gonna be some different choices. But what we wanted
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to do at Rocky Mountain Voice was kind of exposed
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all the things we're finding out, because when you see
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it here and there, you can't necessarily put it all together,
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so that it's this one district that's just gone off
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the rails. So we call it the Durango Dirty Dozen.
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and we are exposing the twelve ways that they are
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not taking care of our children, not focused on academic success,
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and not respecting families. So I'm going to quickly go
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through the list so far, I don't want to let
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loose on the rest of them yet, and then we'll
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bring Will on to talk after the break about specifically
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the complaints that they've filed.
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So that's number one or the complaints.
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Complaints are about discriminatory practices and hiring programs and policies,
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and I'll let Will talk more about that.
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Number two. Get this Benjamin Smith, a.
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Band teacher hired during COVID, pushed a queer agenda and
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molested thirty seven plus kids. He's been federally indicted on
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fifty six counts, including production and possession of child pornography, pornography,
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and sexual assault. And I should say he's not convicted,
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he's accused of doing these things, but the evidence is
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pretty overwhelming, and the investigation brought in Homeland Security.
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So how the heck did he get hired? And how
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the heck did this go on so long without the
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school district board or the teacher, the other teachers, the
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other staff know that this was going on. So that's
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number two. Number three, the school board spent two hundred
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and nine thousand dollars of taxpayer money on third party
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DEI Diversity Equity Inclusion experts, with one professional day for
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the teachers costing sixty nine thousand dollars. Now, this money
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could have funded textbooks or teacher training, yet it went
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straight to ideology. This at a time when our kids
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aren't learning how to read, write, or do maths. So
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what comparents do about this? Well, they can go to
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a board meeting. School board meeting on September twenty third,
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I think it's at six o'clock and you have two
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minutes to comment, be ready comment, Ask questions. Demand the
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board provide a breakdown of the spending and why it's
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being prioritized over education. Ask them how Benjamin Smith, the
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band teacher that molested potentially molested thirty seven kids, how
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that happened, what they're doing about it. Ask them about
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the three complaints that have been filed with the US
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Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights Number four or
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exposing concerns with the gender support plan. It was developed
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with CASBY guidance. CASBY is the Colorado Association of School Boards,
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so their guidance around gender support plans includes therapists and
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counselors and staff deciding if parents are notified or not
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about a student's gender transition.
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I think most of us have heard.
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About this in Colorado, where a student can decide to
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change their gender and they hide it from the parents.
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And they also when this happens, they can use all
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gender bathrooms or those that they identify with, so a
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boy can go in a girls bathroom or vice versa.
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They can change their names or pronouns in school records.
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So parents need to ask, why are we being excluded
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from this process? That is not okay? Next step Number five.
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Former teachers Vivian and Joanna Smotherman, also ex Senate District
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six candidates, like they ran for the legislature, took a
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student transitioning to a boy without the mother, Cindy Stein's knowledge,
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so you could say it's kidnapping or hiding, you know,
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just convincing to stay with them and not go home regardless.
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It's terrifying for parents.
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Now this portrayal raises questions about nine are the school
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district's oversight, So parents need to ask questions about this
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and demand answers on how did this happen and what's
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being done? And can this happen to my child? What
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makes you decide that it's okay to take a child
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into your home against the parents' wishes.
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It's nuts.
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This is all part of the Durango nine R School
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Districts Dirty dozen ways they're doing our kids wrong that
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Rocky Mountain Voice has been putting out. Number six, a
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group of active School of volunteers rejected a gift of
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sixty American flags for classrooms. Now, this is while the
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board is making resolutions that progress, Pride, and Black Lives
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Matter flags are protected under government speech.
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They did that in January.
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But yet the volunteers who run a little volunteer group
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at Durango's schools rejected a gift of sixty American flags
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to put in the classrooms. Now a lot of parents
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down there are seeing this as prioritizing ideology over patriotism.
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got them spending money on DEI instead of teaching our
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kids how to read, write, and do math. You've got
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complaints about discriminatory practices in hiring and programs and policies.
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American flags. What is so wrong about having an American
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flag in the classroom. It's nuts.
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So number seven, we all know about House Bill thirteen twelve.
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I call it the most egregious bill ever proposed in
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the Colorado legislature, which allows kids to access mental health
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services without consent to the parents at age twelve.
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So your twelve year old.
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Can go get mental health care by someone you haven't
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even met, don't know anything about, without your knowledge.
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It's crazy.
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And get this Representative Kate Stewart, who's also on the
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board of school school Board of Directors down there. She's
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the representative for House District fifty nine.
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She voted for this.
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Undermining family authority, so parents need to ask why this
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is happening.
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And finally number eight that I think I just filmed.
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Actually they put this one out, so today it'll be
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number nine. The twenty twenty five c mass scores are dismal.
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Kids can't learn to read and write down there. We've
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got to demand better. We'll talk more about this after
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the break.
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You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
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This is Heidigan all Back filling in for Dan Kaplis.
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Great to join you today. Man, it's been a rough
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week though. It's been a lot of emotional trauma to
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deal with. And I'm gonna miss Charlie Kirk tremendously. He's
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just a great, great guy, great mentor, great person all around.
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But we've been talking about issues that he would care
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about us telling the truth about, and one of those
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is Durango School District nine. Are I'm bringing a friend
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of mine on, Will Traikman, who's the general counselor Mountain
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States Legal Foundation.
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Will. Welcome to the show.
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Thanks so much, Hearty, great to be here.
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Thanks for joining will.
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Your organization has filed some complaints with the Office of
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Civil Rights.
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Tell us a bit about that.
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Yeah, well, I really appreciate it. What you just said
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now about Charlie Kirk, which is the work that he
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targeted involved a lot of really important issues. So free
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speech was one and anti DEI work is another, where
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we're talking about equality and equality under the law. Mountain
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Stains Lego Foundation has filed three civil rights complaints with
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the US Department of Education. So sometimes lawsuits go to court.
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These are going to an administrative agency, the Department of Education,
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and they involve race discrimination that's happening within the Durrengo
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School district. Now the three separate complaints, and they involve
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three separate issues. I'm happy to talk about.
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Yes, tell us more.
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I've been doing this Durango Dirty Dozen all the different
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ways they're hurting our kids and families, and this is
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an important component about it.
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So break those down for us.
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Yeah, I don't think I durngo as this you know,
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haven for wackadus, but differently have something negative in the
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water going on in the school district. The first one
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involves Native American programming, you know, you're allowed to have
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reservations and you know, federal Native American programs, but this
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school district has taken it way too far. They have
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a graduation ceremony that you're only allowed to attend if
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you're a Native American. They have all these college readiness programs.
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You know, everyone needs college readiness if they're going to college.
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It's not only for Native Americans, but in Durango, if
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you want access to this program, you have to be
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a Native American. So that's complaint number one. Complaint number
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two is that they have this flags and symbols policies
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that says, if you're a teacher and you want to
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put up a flag or a symbol in your classroom
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that supports an ethnicity other than white, you are allowed
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to do that with the support of the district. But
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if you put up an All Lives Matter sign or
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maybe a symbol to memorialize white South Africans who are
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being murdered, that that's the violation of district policy. So
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if the ethnicity that you're supporting is white, that's a problem.
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If it's anything else, you're fine. And then the third
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involves hiring. It's very clear that Durngo is trying to
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racially Jerry Mander who gets hired as teachers. And this
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is so obvious that the superintendent in his own self
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review said, I'd like a race I'd like a good
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review because I've been drastically changing the makeup of the
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teachers in our district by hiring more non white teachers.
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Oh yeah, yeah, hard to believe that it's happening, although
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is it. I mean, these days it's kind of part
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of the course that we see blue states and blue
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school districts doing these aggressive things and just hoping to
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get away with it.
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So, well, what happens now with these complaints?
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Ye, that's a good question. So mount Sas has a
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lot of these ocr the Office for Civil Rights complaints
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going on. If you haven't noticed, though, there's a little
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bit of in Washington, d c. About the Department of
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Education and how many people should work there and what
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they should do. So it's possible that these complaints get
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transferred to the Department of Justice if the Civil Rights
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Office there kind of fades away in line with President
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Trump's priorities. So it's true that we file these complaints
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with an agency that may cease to exist. As we
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know it going forward. But in the meantime, we filed
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the complaints, we're hoping to get investigations open and then
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findings made against these districts.
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How long does that typically take if the agency does
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stay in place.
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the question about my old tenure and ocr So the
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Trump administration the first term, we did a great job
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speeding things up trying to get resolutions on these complaints,
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because justice delayed is justice snide. The Biden administration didn't
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do much, and in some ways that's just a function
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of what you know, government under Democrats means, it means
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slower pace, it means sprawling investigations. Rather than trying to
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address this specific complaint at heart, they try to do
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an investigation that may loop it in systemic violation. So anyway,
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things have slowed down under Biden, and it can take
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a year or two unfortunately to get an investigation through
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the process. The wheels of justice sometimes grind.
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Slowly, and will what's the penalty if they are found
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to be definitive or accurate?
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These complaints, right, so they're not federal court complaints, so
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it's not like we're going to a jury trial, and
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the jury trial makes a big award in our favor.
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These are administrative complaints, and the big tool in the
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toolbox for the department is stripping federal funds from the district.
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District having an open investigation. I'm sure most of the
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listeners have seen about Tender Republic schools having open investigations.
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their federal funds, which is millions of dollars if they
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don't comply with federal civil rights laws.
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That's wild, and so they're willing to put that at
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risk by placing these policies or continuing these policies even
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though they're told not to by the administration.
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despite their face. I mean, that is some of it.
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government even though it's the federal government's money, it's our
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money as citizens, and they're willing to say, we'll take
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our chances, We'll risk the safety, security, the resources of
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our district, our students, our teachers in order to take
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a stand on aggressive anti civil rights positions, like we're
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going to treat people differently based on rates. That's just
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what they do. They can't help it.
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What can parents do about this that live in Durango
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or other districts where this is happening, Well, definitely call me.
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You know, I've got a number on the website if
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you've got an issue that revolves civil rights or free speech.
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Those are two of msllefts bread and butter. You know,
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we're actively looking for other cases involving race discrimination or
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suppressing free speech. Keep an eye out. You know, we
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as parents have a tremendous amount of power. I've got
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four kids in the school district, and I'm never afraid
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to bite some ankles and be a wet blanket and
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make it clear that they're not going to get away
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with something without hearing from me. So that's something you
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can do informally in addition to the legal process, and
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ultimately we just have to change the culture. I know
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that's an easy thing to say and a harder thing
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to do, but that is something that we have to do.
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In Charlie's memory. I think it's important that we renew
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that charge and renew the vigor that we pursue it with,
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because unless we change the culture in the long run,
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the left is going to win on these battles.
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So we just have a minute left.
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But your counsel for the school board down in Douglas
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County when the whole voucher thing went down.
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Correct, that's right, Yeah, a couple of years ago.
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What control does Polis and the Democrats have in just
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like thirty seconds over this issue.
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Could they squash it if they wanted to?
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Well, the governor and the state do have the power
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of state law. I mean, that's why they're trying to
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impose these rules on school districts, even if it means
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losing federal funds. So ultimately, Polis and the other Democrats
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in the state have the power to tell local school
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districts you can't accept federal funds because there's a conflict
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and the only remedy to violating civil rights is to
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lose your federal funds. So that is a difficult position
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that we may yet see the state put our school
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districts in and it'll make our students and our education
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system suffer.
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Well, well, thank you so much for coming on and
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explaining that issue. This is Heidi Ganal filling for Dan Caples.
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We'll be back after the break with John Castillo, Kendrick's dad,
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to talk a little bit more about school safety.
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And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
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This is Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan caplis our
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last segment and the perfect person to come on and
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help us wrap this show about the craziness that's gone on,
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but specifically school safety. This is one of my favorite
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people on the planet. John and Maria Castillo are just
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the best. John, Welcome to the show. Glad to have you.
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Yeah, thank you, Heidy, I appreciate you. You know, ruined me
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to be on the show today.
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Thank you, John.
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I know you are probably one of the top experts
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on school safety at this point.
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And Kendrick we at door. Kendrick.
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He is a hero to all of us and so
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are you and Maria. So tell us what your thoughts
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are about what Beverly said and what's happening at Evergreen.
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All right, yeah, you know seeing Evergreen play out just
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got back every thing from May seventh, and I have
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to say the sro part of this is just angered
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Marie and I so bad that here we are six
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years later, and that the needle for safety has not moved,
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literally has not moved in Colorado, especially where you know,
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all these events have seemed to have been taking place.
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I mean, I know they they go on across the country.
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But when we look at things and we see that
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an SRO wasn't present, when the shooter was able to
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reload multiple times, and the length of time that the
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SRO is going to be absent, there was shared coverage.
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You know, these are things that take place around our
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state in different school districts, and they fall on deaf
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ears and the irony of it and the pain is
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that the end result will be a political movement by
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both parties using some of this to bring awareness to
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school safe DEEEP that we may not see solid results
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once again, won't be at the same place that we
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were six years ago. Money is going to flood in
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that will allow for a school resource officer now to
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be in that school. But that's a little bit too late.
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That's a little bittersweet. You know, those families that have
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kids in the hospital right now that potentially could die
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and are affected by this, does it matter to them
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that now they're going to have an SRO after the
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shooting took place. That's how we feel, and we just
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have to express that that we're grateful that there's protection
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in schools and they're trying to get crows. But I
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think the whole program could be improved. We protect our
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sporting venues, all of these different places. In most jobs,
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if somebody doesn't show up, you know, there's somebody else
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that takes their places there. And we're talking about six
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hours a day for kids. How tough can that? You know?
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We have to do better to protect our children. Well really,
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you know, yeah.
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John, I don't know if you've heard me talking about Durango,
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but here's a school board that spent two hundred and
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nine thousand dollars of tax payer money on DEI experts
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and one day, one day of their consulting costs sixty
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nine thousand dollars. And I would bet you that not
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every school in Durango nine our district has at full
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time SRO in those schools and all the safety measures
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implemented to protect our kids.
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What do you think?
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No, you're absolutely right. I mean, we're paying superintendents of
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school districts enormous salaries. Well, kids are unprotected why is that?
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And our schools aren't safe. We need to make them safe,
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and you know we have to start by looking at
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practical things. You're absolutely right. This money is being squandered,
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and after these shootings, the money will come in from
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somewhere who knows where. It'll fix some problem. Think till
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the next one went overshadows the last. That's really unfortunate.
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I know, John, Isn't it exhausting?
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I mean, I've been working on this since sixteen when
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I was on that committee which done absolutely nothing, and
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I created the school Safety three sixty plan, and every
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time there's a tragedy, I bring it back out, the
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same plan. I put it in front of people, nothing happens,
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and it's just it's it's hard on the soul, it's
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hard on the heart, and it's hard to know that
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there are solutions that can be put in place and
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no one's doing a dang thing.
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You're absolutely one hundred percent correct. I have been on
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committees to try to address school safety, and I get
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the gut feeling that people come together for these meetings
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just to have a plan to say that they're doing something,
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but nothing really gets deployed and gets put out there
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and we have to start making sure that that happens.
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Parents to get involved. You know, it breaks my heart
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that they had a meeting the night before bringing up
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the subject about a school shooting, and bam, the next
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day it happens. You know, you know, this is going
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on in more places. There are brave you don't want
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a dog and teachers or like local administrators. Some are
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very bad other ones. You know, it's been my experience
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speaking at some of these schools. They welcome an SRO
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and they have a safety plan that's going up and
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beyond the minimal things that they're required. And I love
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that those schools, you know, are doing a good job.
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The leaders of the schools, the principals and the admin
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care about their staff and their kids. But why hasn't
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that in every school? Why is it that you know,
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we can put an SRO in a you know, a
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liberal leading school and they won't be welcome. They don't
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have an office, they don't have a place to do
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their paperwork. I mean, they're there, but are they really
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welcome in that environment to do their best work? Not always?
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You know, it's troublesome. It's troublesome. We have to address
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things like that. So even when we're doing the right thing,
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I have an SROs and other protectors. Are we welcoming them?
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Are we using them to the best of their ability?
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Are they like directing traffic at the drive up line?
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Are they actually participating in safety? I mean, there has
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to be a standard.
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John.
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We've got to go to break, We've got to finish
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up the show. But thank you for coming on. You
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are always welcome whenever I'm hosting. We adore you guys
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and are sending big prayers and hopes that we can
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actually fix something at some point.
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Thank you for coming on today.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely. I hope this resonates with people and you know,
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a stronger stance comes out of it.
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Thanks John, we'll talk next time.
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Well, thanks everybody for giving me a chance to hang
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out with you today and talk about the craziness in
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our world. Thank you Ryan for always being strong and
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having a great voice. We'll see you tomorrow, actually Tuesday,
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I'll be co hosting, or if guest hosting again co
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hosting with Ryan. Take care and have a great day.
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This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
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single day on your favorite podcast platform.
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This is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Kaplis. We've
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got another hour to talk about. Oh my goodness, it's
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been a tough, tough week and the last week in Colorado,
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and it's just it's sad. I'm really just sad and
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generally just depressed about where things stand right now when
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you see the vitriol online and you see our children
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being afraid of going to conservative events and speaking up
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because they just saw their friend and leader influencer murdered
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on TV, but also going to school and having to
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deal with school shootings. And I talked a little bit
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with Beverly about my frustration in Colorado working on that issue.
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There's lots going on in Durango School District too that
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we've been exposing on Rocky Mountain FO. It's called nine
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R School District and just I think it is competing
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with Jefferson County for the most woke school.
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District in Colorado.
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So we're going to bring Will Traichman on with the
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Mountain States Legal Foundation on at five thirty six to
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talk about those issues. But in the meantime, I wanted
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to first give a shout out to Brandy Bradley. She's
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a representative. Her son was in a terrible accident. He's
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doing okays, getting better, but he's got a lot of
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issues from the accident. He needs a lot of prayers.
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So if everybody can ping Brandy online or just send
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prayers and hope that Cole heals up, heals up, well,
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it's terrifying to have your child in that situation and
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my heart goes out to her. And then I want
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to talk to you guys about a post I just saw.
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I actually saw this yesterday. Kyle Clark was talking about
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our our service that we did at Brave Church yesterday,
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and instead of just saying this was a great group
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of Christians that got together to honor one of their
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favorite pace well, he says a number of far right
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leaders packed a church outside Denver for a remembrance of
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Charlie Kirk. That was a memorial service, a political rally,
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and a soft launch for a ministry leader's potential run
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for governor. It's one of the readers or the tweets out.
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Nine News is so broken, complete garbage. This merger with
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Next Her cannot happen soon enough. Ryan, how much do
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you know about Next Her? Are they any less woke
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than the folks that have nine News Tanga?
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It's quite the opposite, as a matter of fact, because
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there are many stations throughout the country that when they
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are under the Next Star umbrella, Uh, they're Cheryl Atkinson.
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You may have heard of her. She has a show
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that airs on those stations a lot of the nationwide
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and the form of syndication they tend actually to lean.
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To the right.
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Wow.
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Yeah, So there's a lot of speculation. Well, there's a
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lot of speculation, and I have mixed feelings about this.
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I want to preface it that way, but that.
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What we're seeing, and it's generally not good for journalism
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and for localism, is the mergers of these companies, these buyouts,
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et cetera, are eliminating newsrooms throughout and Denver's a top
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twenty market nationally, and yet we've seen that happen already
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in the form of a Channel two I believe it
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was and Katievr Fox thirty one here in Denver, and
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that eliminated one of those newsrooms and they melded into one.
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Now there's thought, there's speculation that Fox thirty one and
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nine they merge, and then who's left and how many
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news departments are there on the television side in the
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Denver market, because you would still have obviously CBS Colorado
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Channel four, you would still have Denver seven ABC affiliate.
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And that then we've seen this and it used to
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be just like the.
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Smaller markets like Marquette, Michigan or something like that. But
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now it's happening in Denver, and you know, there's speculation
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that it might be nine News the one that gets
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cleaned out.
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Goodness gracious.
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Kyle Clark, can you define far right?
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Were you there?
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really far right?
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Right of Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. Oh, is that
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far right? Anything to the right of them? I honestly
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feel that's how people in his silo view us. Is
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that anything remotely conservative, that's far right you will never hurt. Here,
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for instance, Kyle Clark say the term or, and he's
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not the only one far left.
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It's far right, right left. There's no far left to them.
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who's thinking about running for governor, and Victor, I love Victor.
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He would make a big splash and cost some waves
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in that primary. But I was saying to Victor, you know,
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it's not like it's not your messaging.
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and then how the Democrats are going to use the
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tens of millions of dollars to drive that messaging in
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about you and defining you through ads and flyers and
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just a you know, an onslaught of influence over the voters.
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of living, and I've got these solutions, and I'm a
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great person, i have a great experience, I'll do a
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great job.
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powers over you.
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The media machine to fight back, which is why we
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started Rocky Mountain Voice.
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go up against the liberal media here in Colorado and
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the liberal or the Democrat machine, the money, the organization,
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the power that they have in Colorado to really drive messaging.
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I don't think they know the truth about the people
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who are representing them on the left or what we
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really stand for on the right. And that was the
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most frustrating thing for me as a candidate was not
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voters not being able to know who I was, what
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my heart was, and what my solutions were. I mean, right,
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it cracks me up that I ran on all the
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things that they're saying, we should really do this now
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because your on income tax and reducing the bureaucracy and
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you know, keeping our kids safe at school and reducing crime.
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Not the Democrats are running that, but everybody is generally
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talking about it.
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whether it's the congressional candidates, the governor candidates, you know,
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the state level candidates. How are you going to get
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your message through the fog that is the liberal media
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and the money that is spent to define you and tell.
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Voters who you are, even if it's a lie. Like,
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what do you think about that?
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Brian, I'm sorry you're talking to me. I've got a
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lot of things going on back.
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You never mind, it was really important, profound question.
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You're talking about platforms, exposure.
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It's talking about money and the influence and the ability
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to get your message out as a candidate, and whether
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you can actually break through the liberal media and the
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amount of money that they spend against you to define
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you without you having any say in how they define you.
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Let me ask it to you this way, because I
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think this is you know, it's the devil's bargain if
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you were too and I'm sure you did this assessment
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this and I've had this conversation with Representative Lauren Bobert,
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with other in particular, I'm gonna call it what it is,
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conservative women with whom Kyle Clark seems to have some
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kind of bizarre, twisted fixation.
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Dennis, what kind of fetish.
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Daniel Jerinsky being another one.
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There are many, There are many, but you were one,
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baby b That would be another one. You were one,
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and he really focused in and you don't want to
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hear this, but the furry thing, which what again was
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happening and in fact, this shooter they're getting a lot
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of information from his transgender roommate lover whatever you want
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to call.
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It, at a video.
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Guess what, you know, the whole furry thing. So to
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roll out this canard like it's a fantasy, it's a
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feature of your imagination, like Jared Poulis said with Daniel
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Jerensky about the trendy Arago gangs in Aurora.
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No, it was not.
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So they're trying to gaslight in that form. And then
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you have a decision to make, Heidi, and that is
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do you try to bat that in other spheres.
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Or do you go right into the lions Den.
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Sit down face to face with Kyle Clark and have
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it out. So, I mean, what went into that decision
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for you? Because was there a winning equation for you
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that included that kind of engagement with the very media
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that's looking to take you down.
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I mean, yeah, we tried that a little bit and
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it they just didn't even give me a chance to respond.
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They asked the question in such a crazy way. You're like,
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that is not what I said. Jimmy asked me what
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the craziest thing I'd heard on the campaign trail was,
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and I said, a lot of parents are telling me
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that there's kids in the schools that are dressing up
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like animals.
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It's called furries.
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talking about it after that. We just pivoted back to
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what we cared about crime kids cost a living. But
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the media took it ran with it, and of course Jared.
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Pull Us made some comment.
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The minute she said that I knew I win the
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election because they knew they were going to take that
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SoundBite and just ram it down my throat.
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I know we got to break. But this bear's mentioning
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this is the Kyle Clark pattern. He's not the only
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one that left it does that. First of all, it's
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not happening. You're crazy for thinking that high that they
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even would happen. Secondly, though, if it did happen, well,
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these would be marginalized kids that are just looking for
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their own identity.
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Bully Heidi, that's what it turned into. Let's call this
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what it is.
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matter of fact, we should be sensitive to these kids
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because a lot of them are gay or trans and
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they don't not express themselves, and we should let them
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meow or bark and be animals in the classroom. It
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turned into oh, not only is it happening, but how
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dare you?
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Do you big it for not endorsing it or giving
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them that compassion and understanding to allow them to express
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themselves the way that they want to do it. Hold on, Kyle,
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not happening, and then it turned into what it turned into.
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Incentivized by the Democrats to do this to destroy the right.
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But that's my conspiracy theory. So Kyle, have at it.
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is Heidikanal filling in for Dan Caplis. We'll come back
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afterwards and talk more about all the crazy stuff going
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on in this beautiful state. We'll see after the break.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
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Welcome back.
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This is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis.
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Will Traickman, who's the head of Mountain States Legal Foundation,
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and they have filed three different Office of Civil Rights
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complaints on Durango's school district. It's also called nine R
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School District La Platta County down in southwest Colorado, and
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it's a like used to be the wild Wild West,
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like the best of Colorado. It's beautiful and it's turned
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into one of the most liberal areas of our state,
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and they have a school board race coming up and
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there's gonna be some different choices. But what we wanted
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to do at Rocky Mountain Voice was kind of exposed
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all the things we're finding out, because when you see
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it here and there, you can't necessarily put it all together,
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the rails. So we call it the Durango Dirty Dozen.
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and we are exposing the twelve ways that they are
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not taking care of our children, not focused on academic success,
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and not respecting families. So I'm going to quickly go
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through the list so far, I don't want to let
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loose on the rest of them yet, and then we'll
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bring Will on to talk after the break about specifically
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the complaints that they've filed.
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Number two. Get this Benjamin Smith, a.
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Band teacher hired during COVID, pushed a queer agenda and
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molested thirty seven plus kids. He's been federally indicted on
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fifty six counts, including production and possession of child pornography, pornography,
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and sexual assault. And I should say he's not convicted,
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he's accused of doing these things, but the evidence is
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pretty overwhelming, and the investigation brought in Homeland Security.
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the heck did this go on so long without the
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school district board or the teacher, the other teachers, the
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other staff know that this was going on. So that's
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number two. Number three, the school board spent two hundred
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and nine thousand dollars of taxpayer money on third party
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DEI Diversity Equity Inclusion experts, with one professional day for
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the teachers costing sixty nine thousand dollars. Now, this money
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could have funded textbooks or teacher training, yet it went
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straight to ideology. This at a time when our kids
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aren't learning how to read, write, or do maths. So
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what comparents do about this? Well, they can go to
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a board meeting. School board meeting on September twenty third,
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I think it's at six o'clock and you have two
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minutes to comment, be ready comment, Ask questions. Demand the
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board provide a breakdown of the spending and why it's
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being prioritized over education. Ask them how Benjamin Smith, the
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band teacher that molested potentially molested thirty seven kids, how
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that happened, what they're doing about it. Ask them about
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the three complaints that have been filed with the US
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Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights Number four or
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exposing concerns with the gender support plan. It was developed
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with CASBY guidance. CASBY is the Colorado Association of School Boards,
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so their guidance around gender support plans includes therapists and
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counselors and staff deciding if parents are notified or not
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about a student's gender transition.
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change their gender and they hide it from the parents.
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gender bathrooms or those that they identify with, so a
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boy can go in a girls bathroom or vice versa.
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from this process? That is not okay? Next step Number five.
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six candidates, like they ran for the legislature, took a
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student transitioning to a boy without the mother, Cindy Stein's knowledge,
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so you could say it's kidnapping or hiding, you know,
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just convincing to stay with them and not go home regardless.
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being done? And can this happen to my child? What
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makes you decide that it's okay to take a child
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into your home against the parents' wishes.
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It's nuts.
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This is all part of the Durango nine R School
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Districts Dirty dozen ways they're doing our kids wrong that
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Rocky Mountain Voice has been putting out. Number six, a
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group of active School of volunteers rejected a gift of
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sixty American flags for classrooms. Now, this is while the
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board is making resolutions that progress, Pride, and Black Lives
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Matter flags are protected under government speech.
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They did that in January.
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But yet the volunteers who run a little volunteer group
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at Durango's schools rejected a gift of sixty American flags
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to put in the classrooms. Now a lot of parents
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down there are seeing this as prioritizing ideology over patriotism.
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So you've got ideology over patriotism in the classroom. You've
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got them spending money on DEI instead of teaching our
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kids how to read, write, and do math. You've got
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complaints about discriminatory practices in hiring and programs and policies.
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American flags. What is so wrong about having an American
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flag in the classroom. It's nuts.
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So number seven, we all know about House Bill thirteen twelve.
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I call it the most egregious bill ever proposed in
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the Colorado legislature, which allows kids to access mental health
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services without consent to the parents at age twelve.
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So your twelve year old.
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Can go get mental health care by someone you haven't
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even met, don't know anything about, without your knowledge.
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It's crazy.
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And get this Representative Kate Stewart, who's also on the
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board of school school Board of Directors down there. She's
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the representative for House District fifty nine.
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She voted for this.
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Undermining family authority, so parents need to ask why this
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is happening.
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And finally number eight that I think I just filmed.
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Actually they put this one out, so today it'll be
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number nine. The twenty twenty five c mass scores are dismal.
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Kids can't learn to read and write down there. We've
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got to demand better. We'll talk more about this after
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the break.
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You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
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This is Heidigan all Back filling in for Dan Kaplis.
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Great to join you today. Man, it's been a rough
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week though. It's been a lot of emotional trauma to
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deal with. And I'm gonna miss Charlie Kirk tremendously. He's
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just a great, great guy, great mentor, great person all around.
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But we've been talking about issues that he would care
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about us telling the truth about, and one of those
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is Durango School District nine. Are I'm bringing a friend
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of mine on, Will Traikman, who's the general counselor Mountain
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States Legal Foundation.
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Will. Welcome to the show.
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Thanks so much, Hearty, great to be here.
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Thanks for joining will.
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Your organization has filed some complaints with the Office of
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Civil Rights.
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Tell us a bit about that.
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Yeah, well, I really appreciate it. What you just said
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now about Charlie Kirk, which is the work that he
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targeted involved a lot of really important issues. So free
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speech was one and anti DEI work is another, where
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we're talking about equality and equality under the law. Mountain
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Stains Lego Foundation has filed three civil rights complaints with
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the US Department of Education. So sometimes lawsuits go to court.
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These are going to an administrative agency, the Department of Education,
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and they involve race discrimination that's happening within the Durrengo
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School district. Now the three separate complaints, and they involve
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three separate issues. I'm happy to talk about.
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Yes, tell us more.
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I've been doing this Durango Dirty Dozen all the different
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ways they're hurting our kids and families, and this is
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an important component about it.
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So break those down for us.
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Yeah, I don't think I durngo as this you know,
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haven for wackadus, but differently have something negative in the
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water going on in the school district. The first one
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involves Native American programming, you know, you're allowed to have
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reservations and you know, federal Native American programs, but this
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school district has taken it way too far. They have
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a graduation ceremony that you're only allowed to attend if
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you're a Native American. They have all these college readiness programs.
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You know, everyone needs college readiness if they're going to college.
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It's not only for Native Americans, but in Durango, if
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you want access to this program, you have to be
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a Native American. So that's complaint number one. Complaint number
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two is that they have this flags and symbols policies
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that says, if you're a teacher and you want to
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put up a flag or a symbol in your classroom
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that supports an ethnicity other than white, you are allowed
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to do that with the support of the district. But
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if you put up an All Lives Matter sign or
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maybe a symbol to memorialize white South Africans who are
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being murdered, that that's the violation of district policy. So
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if the ethnicity that you're supporting is white, that's a problem.
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If it's anything else, you're fine. And then the third
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involves hiring. It's very clear that Durngo is trying to
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racially Jerry Mander who gets hired as teachers. And this
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is so obvious that the superintendent in his own self
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review said, I'd like a race I'd like a good
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review because I've been drastically changing the makeup of the
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teachers in our district by hiring more non white teachers.
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Oh yeah, yeah, hard to believe that it's happening, although
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is it. I mean, these days it's kind of part
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of the course that we see blue states and blue
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school districts doing these aggressive things and just hoping to
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get away with it.
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So, well, what happens now with these complaints?
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Ye, that's a good question. So mount Sas has a
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lot of these ocr the Office for Civil Rights complaints
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going on. If you haven't noticed, though, there's a little
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bit of in Washington, d c. About the Department of
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Education and how many people should work there and what
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they should do. So it's possible that these complaints get
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transferred to the Department of Justice if the Civil Rights
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Office there kind of fades away in line with President
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Trump's priorities. So it's true that we file these complaints
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with an agency that may cease to exist. As we
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know it going forward. But in the meantime, we filed
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the complaints, we're hoping to get investigations open and then
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findings made against these districts.
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How long does that typically take if the agency does
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stay in place.
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Well, I used to work there, so thank you for
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the question about my old tenure and ocr So the
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Trump administration the first term, we did a great job
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speeding things up trying to get resolutions on these complaints,
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because justice delayed is justice snide. The Biden administration didn't
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do much, and in some ways that's just a function
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of what you know, government under Democrats means, it means
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slower pace, it means sprawling investigations. Rather than trying to
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address this specific complaint at heart, they try to do
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an investigation that may loop it in systemic violation. So anyway,
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things have slowed down under Biden, and it can take
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a year or two unfortunately to get an investigation through
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the process. The wheels of justice sometimes grind.
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Slowly, and will what's the penalty if they are found
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to be definitive or accurate?
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These complaints, right, so they're not federal court complaints, so
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it's not like we're going to a jury trial, and
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the jury trial makes a big award in our favor.
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These are administrative complaints, and the big tool in the
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toolbox for the department is stripping federal funds from the district.
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So you've seen probably the news about Jefferson County School
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District having an open investigation. I'm sure most of the
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listeners have seen about Tender Republic schools having open investigations.
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So those districts are in danger of losing all of
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their federal funds, which is millions of dollars if they
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don't comply with federal civil rights laws.
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That's wild, and so they're willing to put that at
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risk by placing these policies or continuing these policies even
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though they're told not to by the administration.
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Yeah, these school districts were cut off their own noses,
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despite their face. I mean, that is some of it.
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They're willing to go toe to toe with the federal
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government even though it's the federal government's money, it's our
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money as citizens, and they're willing to say, we'll take
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our chances, We'll risk the safety, security, the resources of
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our district, our students, our teachers in order to take
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a stand on aggressive anti civil rights positions, like we're
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going to treat people differently based on rates. That's just
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what they do. They can't help it.
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What can parents do about this that live in Durango
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or other districts where this is happening, Well, definitely call me.
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You know, I've got a number on the website if
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you've got an issue that revolves civil rights or free speech.
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Those are two of msllefts bread and butter. You know,
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we're actively looking for other cases involving race discrimination or
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suppressing free speech. Keep an eye out. You know, we
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as parents have a tremendous amount of power. I've got
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four kids in the school district, and I'm never afraid
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to bite some ankles and be a wet blanket and
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make it clear that they're not going to get away
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with something without hearing from me. So that's something you
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can do informally in addition to the legal process, and
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ultimately we just have to change the culture. I know
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that's an easy thing to say and a harder thing
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to do, but that is something that we have to do.
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In Charlie's memory. I think it's important that we renew
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that charge and renew the vigor that we pursue it with,
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because unless we change the culture in the long run,
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the left is going to win on these battles.
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So we just have a minute left.
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But your counsel for the school board down in Douglas
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County when the whole voucher thing went down.
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Correct, that's right, Yeah, a couple of years ago.
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What control does Polis and the Democrats have in just
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like thirty seconds over this issue.
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Could they squash it if they wanted to?
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Well, the governor and the state do have the power
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of state law. I mean, that's why they're trying to
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impose these rules on school districts, even if it means
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losing federal funds. So ultimately, Polis and the other Democrats
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in the state have the power to tell local school
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districts you can't accept federal funds because there's a conflict
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and the only remedy to violating civil rights is to
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lose your federal funds. So that is a difficult position
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that we may yet see the state put our school
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districts in and it'll make our students and our education
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system suffer.
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Well, well, thank you so much for coming on and
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explaining that issue. This is Heidi Ganal filling for Dan Caples.
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We'll be back after the break with John Castillo, Kendrick's dad,
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to talk a little bit more about school safety.
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And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
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This is Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan caplis our
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last segment and the perfect person to come on and
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help us wrap this show about the craziness that's gone on,
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but specifically school safety. This is one of my favorite
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people on the planet. John and Maria Castillo are just
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the best. John, Welcome to the show. Glad to have you.
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Yeah, thank you, Heidy, I appreciate you. You know, ruined me
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to be on the show today.
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Thank you, John.
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I know you are probably one of the top experts
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on school safety at this point.
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And Kendrick we at door. Kendrick.
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He is a hero to all of us and so
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are you and Maria. So tell us what your thoughts
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are about what Beverly said and what's happening at Evergreen.
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All right, yeah, you know seeing Evergreen play out just
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got back every thing from May seventh, and I have
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to say the sro part of this is just angered
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Marie and I so bad that here we are six
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years later, and that the needle for safety has not moved,
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literally has not moved in Colorado, especially where you know,
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all these events have seemed to have been taking place.
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I mean, I know they they go on across the country.
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But when we look at things and we see that
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an SRO wasn't present, when the shooter was able to
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reload multiple times, and the length of time that the
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SRO is going to be absent, there was shared coverage.
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You know, these are things that take place around our
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state in different school districts, and they fall on deaf
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ears and the irony of it and the pain is
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that the end result will be a political movement by
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both parties using some of this to bring awareness to
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school safe DEEEP that we may not see solid results
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once again, won't be at the same place that we
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were six years ago. Money is going to flood in
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that will allow for a school resource officer now to
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be in that school. But that's a little bit too late.
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That's a little bittersweet. You know, those families that have
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kids in the hospital right now that potentially could die
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and are affected by this, does it matter to them
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that now they're going to have an SRO after the
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shooting took place. That's how we feel, and we just
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have to express that that we're grateful that there's protection
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in schools and they're trying to get crows. But I
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think the whole program could be improved. We protect our
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sporting venues, all of these different places. In most jobs,
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if somebody doesn't show up, you know, there's somebody else
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that takes their places there. And we're talking about six
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hours a day for kids. How tough can that? You know?
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We have to do better to protect our children. Well really,
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you know, yeah.
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John, I don't know if you've heard me talking about Durango,
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but here's a school board that spent two hundred and
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nine thousand dollars of tax payer money on DEI experts
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and one day, one day of their consulting costs sixty
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nine thousand dollars. And I would bet you that not
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every school in Durango nine our district has at full
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time SRO in those schools and all the safety measures
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implemented to protect our kids.
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What do you think?
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No, you're absolutely right. I mean, we're paying superintendents of
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school districts enormous salaries. Well, kids are unprotected why is that?
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And our schools aren't safe. We need to make them safe,
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and you know we have to start by looking at
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practical things. You're absolutely right. This money is being squandered,
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and after these shootings, the money will come in from
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somewhere who knows where. It'll fix some problem. Think till
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the next one went overshadows the last. That's really unfortunate.
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I know, John, Isn't it exhausting?
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I mean, I've been working on this since sixteen when
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I was on that committee which done absolutely nothing, and
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I created the school Safety three sixty plan, and every
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time there's a tragedy, I bring it back out, the
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same plan. I put it in front of people, nothing happens,
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and it's just it's it's hard on the soul, it's
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hard on the heart, and it's hard to know that
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there are solutions that can be put in place and
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no one's doing a dang thing.
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You're absolutely one hundred percent correct. I have been on
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committees to try to address school safety, and I get
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the gut feeling that people come together for these meetings
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just to have a plan to say that they're doing something,
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but nothing really gets deployed and gets put out there
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and we have to start making sure that that happens.
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Parents to get involved. You know, it breaks my heart
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that they had a meeting the night before bringing up
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the subject about a school shooting, and bam, the next
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day it happens. You know, you know, this is going
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on in more places. There are brave you don't want
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a dog and teachers or like local administrators. Some are
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very bad other ones. You know, it's been my experience
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speaking at some of these schools. They welcome an SRO
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and they have a safety plan that's going up and
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beyond the minimal things that they're required. And I love
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that those schools, you know, are doing a good job.
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The leaders of the schools, the principals and the admin
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care about their staff and their kids. But why hasn't
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that in every school? Why is it that you know,
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we can put an SRO in a you know, a
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liberal leading school and they won't be welcome. They don't
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have an office, they don't have a place to do
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their paperwork. I mean, they're there, but are they really
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welcome in that environment to do their best work? Not always?
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You know, it's troublesome. It's troublesome. We have to address
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things like that. So even when we're doing the right thing,
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I have an SROs and other protectors. Are we welcoming them?
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Are we using them to the best of their ability?
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Are they like directing traffic at the drive up line?
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Are they actually participating in safety? I mean, there has
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to be a standard.
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John.
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We've got to go to break, We've got to finish
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up the show. But thank you for coming on. You
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are always welcome whenever I'm hosting. We adore you guys
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and are sending big prayers and hopes that we can
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actually fix something at some point.
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Thank you for coming on today.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely. I hope this resonates with people and you know,
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a stronger stance comes out of it.
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Thanks John, we'll talk next time.
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Well, thanks everybody for giving me a chance to hang
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out with you today and talk about the craziness in
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our world. Thank you Ryan for always being strong and
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having a great voice. We'll see you tomorrow, actually Tuesday,
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I'll be co hosting, or if guest hosting again co
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hosting with Ryan. Take care and have a great day.
