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We're going to control and compete today. We're joined by
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Cody Henry.
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Are you well? Thank you?
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So Cody, you're.
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An esports teacher, esports player. You've got an esports or
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esports coach.
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In Yeah, I love that.
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Yeah, how did you get involved? Give was your first
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memories of gaming?
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My brother? Why we're playing like Mortal Kombat and is
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really nice? May would just like take us out and
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then come back.
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Was that in the Megga Drive or edge to the Xbox?
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So the Xbox? Okay?
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So yeah, so what.
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Ages your brother scar yet?
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Then?
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What age were you when you used player playing that?
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I must have been about like ten.
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Maybe it was quite gordy with Mortal Kombat? Is the stuff?
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Really I've never played.
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I don't think it's as good as it used to be,
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but I know this it's more like arcade based and I.
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Think right, Yeah, so fighting games was kind of your
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first bet. What other games was your brother into the else.
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Did you expect?
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I think you played a bit ecology, but it wasn't
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like the biggest gamer. But yeah, I kind of just
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like started getting more into it from him, and then
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it was just like the DSK days of that wouldn't
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really castle. Yeah, it's like sports.
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Yeah, and so what was your first memory then I've
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seen competitive realizing that maybe esports was a thing.
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Then Fortnite, to be honest, yeah it was. I did
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Save the World, and then as soon as Foreuner came out,
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I was just that was it, Like I went they
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jump from Call of Duty to Furnite straight away, and
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I just kind of realized as soon as the tournaments
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and I saw the money, that was it. Yeah, that
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was needed to do it.
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And so what made you think that? So did you
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think that? Do you think it was really accessible to you?
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So you've seen that you could get prize pools and
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that you thought wage were you sorry.
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How are you been about thirteen at the time when I.
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And so you actually thought I could do this?
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And yeah, get because obviously it's the same it's the
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same game as everything was playing.
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I went kind of down the content side until I
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actually realized about the.
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Esports and the content creator.
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Yeah, a lot of that, but yeah, it was like
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more when I started, I did the the compete in
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and then the content came around. And that's like as
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soon as I finished school, I took a year out
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traveled with my dad and then went to see my
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brother because he lives in Spain, and I just did
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the content for about a year. It was perfect time
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because then the degree and then they came out, so
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and that's when I was like all right, oh, esports,
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I can actually do something here. And as soon as
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I started doing the experiences from there, that's when there
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was the DNA kids club they had and that's straight venu.
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I need to be a teacher, right, It's great how
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all these things have came about.
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And it's just like sush to the tea.
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Yeah, because I've looked at your stuff and it's it's professional.
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It looks great, like your website, your sponsors, your partners.
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I mean, if anybody wants to look at me, you
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go by the name want ninth Flyer.
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Yeah, that's where had that come about.
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So it was mainly from Fortnite. So it was like
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people said that I had quite like it was like
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I'm flying when I was playing and that like No,
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it's mostly known for like my movement and built and
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then I just added fire and put them both together and.
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It's so mouse and keyboard.
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Yeah, I did play controller, but I'm now keys.
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Right, So when, so when did you make the jump.
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To like mouse yeah season two? For I think it
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was had an Xbox and then I got a really
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low end PC and then ever since I.
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Yeah, because like we do these sports camps and some
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of the kids that come to the camp they play
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Fortnite and I watched them and it's just like they're
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playing an instrument, like it's amazing with the convicing keys,
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like just special and it's like how long did it
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take you to practice and getting good at wild?
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And then I got quite good. Early on the Xbox,
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it wasn't as good, but as soon as I picked
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up keyboard, I started realizing the movement you could do.
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And like some of the streamers you would watch, it's
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you would see gameplay like you had Ninja and stuff
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like that, but there was nothing that would feel like
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you're actually flowing through like music and like montages and
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stuff like follow along with it. And that's like how
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I was like content.
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Yeah, like that, it goes so well with it. And
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what kind of music do you.
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Like a little bit of rap not like the biggest
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into it countries When I think, oh nice, yeah I
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brought up in country.
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I always say that my own dad, Daniel o' donnoll,
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you've already had not that that country, well the American
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New country.
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Yeah, kind of, it's like Morgan Mall and things like that. Yeah,
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it was more like I used to play guitar and
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things as a kid. Sow did like kind of based.
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Off of And do you ever create any your own
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music for the contract?
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I've done it before, but now I just work with
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like music careers to get the copyright claims and things.
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Yeah, you must. I love that arts and I was
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looking at who you learn? What you do is that
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you do take?
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But do you like better than the teaching, the content,
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the coach in the play in or.
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The all right? I love the competing. I wish I
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could do it forever, but I just I don't think
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I could keep up with it. The teacher and I
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get enjoyment from because I just feel like I can
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inspire others and I still get to does mark what
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age I get to? I can still teach. I could
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be fifty sixty even and seventies. I could still be teaching.
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But I love the team management of everything about it.
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I get to go to the events. I get to
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see the events get to play at some points, so
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that's what like the team managements are what I want
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to do, but I'm happy to do a teaching forever.
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And how have you found and so all police sports?
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How did that come about?
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And I kind of realized it wasn't much in Scotland
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but there is at the same time, and I kind
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of wanted to build something that.
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Has a really good as really I think of Scotland,
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yeah that is, but there isn't.
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Yeah, I just wanted to like make something that was
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going to want people to take part in and have
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a development route from all the way from amateur beat anyone,
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older people, younger people, the people I've never played before
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up to like the semi pro and then just like
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mainteain prove sort of seeing. So like my goal for
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it is to get all the different schools and educations
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and things that that involved and have them competing at
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their own bracket level to start jumping into like the
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Semi pro seeing and make money no matter what stage
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you're at. So it's kind of the goal with it
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is to get people to have that stage up and
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then I've built not long ago a training platform similar
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to like human Benchmark and co works. So we're starting
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with it's built. It's really good. It's like five hundred
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to two thousand people using it first they we launched
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it and we've not straight away like there's more education side,
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get involved with it. I've had kids that I do,
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so I do like typing club stuff. Okay, I mean
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we're seeing kids that are not being able to type properly,
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to type in sentences in like less than thirty minutes. Wow,
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it's crazy that the things you can actually see from
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and what is it?
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Are you describing a lutshale but it's alfare what?
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So there's a bit for a warming up so as
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if you're like a pro over it.
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So it's things for like your back, your posture, your hands,
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making sure they're warned up for that. We've got videos
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that are all categorized for how you can get into
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the esports industry, how you can do your CV, how
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to get involved with certain things, network, and a whole lot.
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And then we have things like ball clickers, aim trainers,
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everything you could possibly get.
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So how did you develop that?
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Then I use the action Yeah, I think it's it's
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something you can use really easily nowadays. But I likely
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just use the I to code most of it. And
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then my dad does web development anyway, so I kind
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of use some of the experiences from that.
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So then market I'll be getting you think about it then, right,
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it's all about how you market these things.
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Now that because we get saturate.
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It used to be behind like a paywall of coders
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and people that can do this. But now yeah, in
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no respect to yourself, but you know you're coming along,
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think how you do it?
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Use AI to make it.
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And yeah, you know what I'm saying, Well, like the
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AI is taking over. Yeah, at the end of the day,
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you can pay people to do well, AI to take
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over your job, but it's never going to be able
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to take over yourself. Yeah, like someone has to code
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it and the end of the day, it's not you
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don't need coding experience, you just have the type of sentence.
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Well, how long didn't get two key to actually pull
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it together?
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Then less than a day? Wowsily it was like two
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days max and was finished and be able to monetize
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it as right, whole thing excellent. We're only recently is
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getting it updated to be the two websites together, right,
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so you can start developing ads through both excellent. It's
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a good way to get involvement of other sponsorships, specially
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in Scotland.
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And you think they're so education. Are you saying the
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education are looking at TB?
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I think, yeah, one hundred percent. Well I've been using
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it for my teaching and you get people using like
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the different typing things like typing clubs and stuff. But
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when these kids are actually competing at the exact same time,
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they're finding more Especially for kids, parents think oh, yeah,
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well there's you can be playing games. You can't play
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on that forever. But moms, if you're making money at
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the same time, you technically got a job, yeah, big time.
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And that's where I'm starting to see, right, if I
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can get you into compete on a game, but you're
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not competing and you can make money at the same time,
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what's stoppening and your parents are gonna want you to play.
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And that's why I've started seeing a lot with the kids.
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And for the first time I started doing the teaching
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m D and A and then I taught a class
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in Queensland University and Australia and the difference between them
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two is like somewhere like the kids seemed more educated
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than the older classes. But as soon as it's brought
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in the type and stuff they wanted to do. And
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then I had the one thing I've never thought i'd
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ever hear is can I get homework? That's what I'm like.
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Esports has definitely changed. Yeah, when would you ever think
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that a kid would ask for homework?
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Yeah, well they've got to be engaged that, they've got
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to love it, right and if they think get taught
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round the game, and then yes, I was all want
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to do.
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Yeah that's really cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
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I mean even there's people out there that have got
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these kind of models already that I've spent one thousands
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of pounds in coding them and creating them. Worried Now
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if people like yourselves are coming up and just creating
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in a day they're doing I mean.
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They're using coal pilot for most things, just buy it
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and then they get to use it. So the jobs
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haven't been replaced, but they're using AI more often. They
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just need less staff to do that. Role.
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Mean, one thing we spoke about is Scotland doesn't it doesn't.
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I think I've seen a lot of esports orgs come
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and go, what kind of advice would you give somebody
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that's maybe wanted to create an org then because yours
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looks amazing, looks really nice.
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Like I'm trying to cut the ways of how people
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could get in debt and how they could avoid the
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issues that most teams involve in. Like you're similar to
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a chart, we're similar to a charity, but like we
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run through ways we could make in money without me
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having to spend just for example, like the ads we
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can use that instead of Mega when I need investor,
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I want to waste your money. That's not how I
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want to come across. So we're trying to cut those
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issues that people would run into occasionally with needing the money,
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like you need like what fifty pounds to set up
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as an actual company itself, and then there's obviously hidden
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fees and data protection that you'll need, but it's very
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easily done. Most teams are like clan stream it. It's
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a group of friends. But I set up with four
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or five teams at first with different games, realized you
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need more than one roster, and I feel like if
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every esports team around, every single place in the world
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followed the same structure of amateur semipro and pron involve education.
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invest into teams nowadays because they don't see how the
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ROI rights could get get to them. So if we've
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started seeing if you involved, that the sponsors will get
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involved because they want to be involved with the education,
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and then we can use both back and back facilities
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to run things.
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And so then would you saying, I said, so here
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do you competing?
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Like, Okay, well, I think we've got like a a
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mutual of Embark Studios, right it Yeah, right, I must admit, right,
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So I've seen the finals, you play it, so the
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finals you can that's my game now, right, So when
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the finals.
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I thought, oh, I think like everybody maybe land with everybody.
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It's the use obviously taking it away. And then Arc
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Treaders came out. Yeah right, I'm loving Arc Reader.
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I've seen it.
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So vice were the opposite ends, right that it's Embark
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Studio is the same company, right, And then so last
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night I download to the finals and I got into
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it and I thought, you know what, it's got a
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little bit pet it's got a little better.
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I'm thinking I even yeah, see Destiny King artwork, some
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of the everything. It's it's quite a bit of everything.
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Doesn't that our main thing was from it was Call
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of Duty and Overwatch.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, and then well you can see the Overwatch.
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But for the way you yeah, especially.
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With like the team best. I love being able to
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work as a team, especially the development that you can
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do through and it's not as if you have to
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keep us up to date with the game because it's
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threes all the time. Yeah, so, like, and the best
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thing about the finals is when it first started, there
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wasn't enough people. Well there was, but they brought out
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custom match weeking too late, so it seemed like, oh yeah,
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there's not gonna be an esports scene from this.
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I think it was designed with that in mind, because
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even when you're playing out with the commentary, which is
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really cool touch and it's almost like you're getting commentated
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as your players.
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It does help you, especially with like if a team
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goes down and you can hear when they're going to
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come back in. And one of the best things about
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it is you can predict spawns and then you can
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also force them to be somewhere else. Okay, you're in
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control is almost.
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Like yeah, because I was looking at it's got a
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nice recoil off it as well, I.
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Thought, what to this game? Yeah, I love the snipers
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and the creativity you can do with this game is if.
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Ever, So that's what I say to you. If you
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ever feel a well in doing that jump on ur Raaders, right,
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and if I ever feel a love on that, I'll
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definitely get more of the Finals a go because the
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art Graders have just exploded as.
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Yeah, yeah, yes, I think the next Battlefield developer.
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Yeah, yeah, that's where they went from.
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So how big is the final scene?
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Because I think what's happened is I think the Finals
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have came out right, You've probably got his core following.
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And then I think with the success Art Traders, people
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like myself are now looking at the studio and other
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games and I think.
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It's do you see a bit You've seen a rise
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in it in.
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Well a little bit, especially with the new creation of it.
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So we had DreamHack a few weeks ago. Yeah, that
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was It's insane.
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Did you go over?
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No, I was watching it live, but I had a
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few of my friends that are competing live at him.
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But there was not much money involved. In now there is.
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But the best thing about the finals is only about
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twenty thousand players playing actively every day, so there's more
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of a scene if you're involved with actual esports people
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that want to be involved in the scene. It's not
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just random people, it's you're involved in esports community.
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It was just good. I want to be competitive.
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Yeah. Because of the low numbers, it makes everything so
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much easier for finding teammates, for get in touch with people,
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especially the community and the devs that made it. Everyone
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you can just get in touch with. It's not as
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if it's hard to find someone you would just make
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a change.
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And embark studios like that. Yeah.
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Quite, they listen to the community. That's one thing why
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I switched from Fortnite was because they don't listen and
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they just fall partnerships. You can't just forget your community.
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Well worried in case you do listen to the community,
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because they put out a feedback form last night on
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our traders and everybody's morning, and then there was I
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wanted the PV PV but you're like no, But the
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fact that's got PvP elements is what makes it exciting. Yeah,
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But some people that I don't want the PvP, but
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you have pvple and then you can just go in
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and extract and it doesn't matter.
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So that's we've had the same issue with the finals.
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There's like different games that they're all ranked.
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Does that have NPCs in it?
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No, No, you can in the practice most Yeah, that's
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what I didn't last It's the most advanced training that
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you could do on there. Like you can actually like
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once you get into the practice, you can go in
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and you can make different scenarios. What happens the bots
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will being they can shoot back at you. You can
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set the difficulty. I've never seen that with any game.
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I was going to say, I mean, it looks like
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they've taken they've basically cherry picked and thought what would
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be the ultimate FPA or something.
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Yeah, the movement looks good.
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Yeah, well, you're coming from a Fortnite and then being
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known as the flyer and known that you're good at movement.
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If you can able to express your skill set on
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it's something that you can get benefits from.
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Especially with like in the finals. The amount of destructivity
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you can just.
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Want to say that, I think that's where the battlefield
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stuff comes from. Yah. If you can destroy a building
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the game.
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You're jelling, Yeah, because you feel like in a game,
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if there's something changing the whole time that you can't
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have it's not the exact same game every time. It's
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it's always different.
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Because I suppose there's another angle, isn't there for like
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a you know, even when they put one of the
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things last night, I've seen somebody put up the skin.
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Of a foam walla wall.
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But you can give you an angle on it.
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Yeah, it's so creative the things you can do.
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But I said to my wife, I was like, I'm
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going to check out, and she's like, just watched a
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stream and I'm like, I want to play it.
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Yeah, I probably should have watched the stream to get
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a feel feel for the maps.
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I think anyone can back up, but it's it's so easy.
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But yeah, I think I think once art crader.
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I mean, the good thing is I felt like we've
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had a bit of a lull of games coming out
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for a while, but it feels like they are kind
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of a.
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Coming and I've started seeing there's a lot more better
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people are wanting to get involved with and more creative.
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Any sides that haven't been brought up before it's not
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the same games.
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No, And then you see the opposite side of it
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where the maybe the black ops and the call of
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duties is getting saturated and the actually just I think
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they're putt a pause on it.
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Yeah, because it did feel like that another Black Ops.
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It was like it was too much. You were not
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bothered anymore.
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They're always been battling the battlefield.
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Yeah, battlefield. Did you play the Battlefield sex?
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I've played it before. Yeah, it was fun, but I
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think it's too.
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Like this is how this is art creaders were right Battlefield,
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Battlefield Batlefield Batfield Artcraaders and I've never touched it again.
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I was saying a lot to it, Like especially my
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teacher at the college, I've saying that he was doing
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Battlefield and he stuck to it. But I feel like
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you definitely have the two side with a very similar.
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And how much do you think when you're doing the teaching,
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these always chat with games half the time.
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I probably don't, but I only do.
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But it's it's more like they want to improve, they
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want to get something from it. Especially like before I
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started doing the teaching, I looked a lot into the
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F one and how you can actually use like you've
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got your data analytics. You've got that's like your speed distance,
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all things that link into STEM subject.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and that's how it's you can it doesn't matter
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what age. It can be involved with any education.
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And so do you think you can attrict the class
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into talking about a certain subject. But really in a
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CeNSE you'd bring it around to a STEM subject, which
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is good.
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That's so much to esports, Like you've got your broadcasts,
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you come and marketing there's it doesn't matter what you do,
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it's all going to link into other jobs.
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And everybody says like, is e sports a sport? I
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think I don't think it's a sport. I think it
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can be a sport. Yeah, it can be education, that's
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what it is. Yeah, I think that that kind of
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cuts that chat right away. It's not it isn't just
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a where you just used to be in the world
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of like, Okay, that's a sport. It's pigeonholed and that's
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that and that's all it can do. But now esports
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are so much more. You can do so much work.
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Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to the Olympics. I think
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that'll be the games.
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You think are going to be in there, then I'm hoping.
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It's an all sports best. I would like to see
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some shooter games.
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The finals looks like it could cut the finals to
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be because it looks futuristic, right, doesn't look like it's
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an a war zone, doesn't look like you're Vietnam or
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anybody's playing, but it does look their future. When that
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seems like something that was a bit more, I think
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we'd get get away with it.
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Possibly, Yeah, I mean it's one of those things where
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the right people Yeah, yeah, it's true, but it's one
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of those things that the finals is just esports players.
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People are concerned whether the numbers and things, but it's
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esports players and you guys are just playing games. There's
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two sides.
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If you want to be just esports the fingers and so.
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How do it?
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Was always it's a free game? Is it just skins
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and cosmetics that you pay for?
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You can customize anything? Right?
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How much have you spent on it?
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I hope the girlfriend's not watching.
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I just proved to be much are, isn't it?
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Yeah?
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I love the game. There's so much in customize everything,
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more than how you dress in the morning. It's really
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much customization.
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So that's good then, so hopefully that's what's going to
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happen in our traders as well.
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Hopefully. Yeah, I think there's a lot to come.
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Yeah, definitely, So tell me then, where do you see yourself?
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And like, okay, Opal, hope be your your dream for Opal?
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If I said to you five year plan, where would
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you like Hopole to be? Who would you like to achieved?
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Opal? I want a facility which can involve all education
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from all of Europe. We'll start off in the UK
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and then go Europe, have everyone involved together, and then
495
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we'd like to say world champions at some point of
496
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some game.
497
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Of some game.
498
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Yeah, and how hard do you think it is then
499
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to be ahead of the curves? They say, okay, we're
500
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going to jump into the finals and then nobody's maybe
501
00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.200
that's not picking up. And if you've seen some orgs
502
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do that were like Marvel Rivals, like Sentinels went into it,
503
00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:45.960
pulled out. I think they're all thinking a game is
504
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going to be hot. But then because the esports can
505
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be so.
506
00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.279
Well, that's the thing. If you look at college, it's
507
00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:53.200
always been there, but it's not like heavily looked at
508
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for the esports.
509
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So I was going to say, so, yeah, so where
510
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would you see then? What team would you go into?
511
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Because obviously, in a sense you've got to look at
512
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the long term and think what is a player based
513
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There is a people in Scotland that like it. I mean,
514
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would you rather have Scottish talent obviously so you could
515
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meet them?
516
00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:06.799
Yeah, I would love to say that. That's where I've
517
00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:11.559
started doing more. It's more Scottish players. But I feel like, well,
518
00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:13.519
especially with all the sports teams, they need to start
519
00:19:13.559 --> 00:19:16.920
developing either towns or countries because not every country has
520
00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:18.960
got its own national team. I would like to see
521
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that football.
522
00:19:19.640 --> 00:19:21.839
Yeah, I mean esports. Whales do it quite well.
523
00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:25.519
I think Jackson they've done amazing, but Wales have kind
524
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of stayed inside themselves. All the money is in one place.
525
00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:31.440
They're not competing in external tournaments other than the globals.
526
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And do you think that's good to us? Do you
527
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think in a sense that there's nothing wrong with that?
528
00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:37.480
Then to begin with, I mean you think about growing
529
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something and giving it a bit of like giving a
530
00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:43.279
team history. Yeah, there's a lot of sport relies on history,
531
00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:46.759
past experiences, rivalry, So creating that in a sense.
532
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I mean it makes the country known for it, but
533
00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:52.000
I don't think it gets it known to other countries,
534
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like for the UK, it's different. We've got all these
535
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different countries and one place. But it's the same with
536
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America if they did that. But I feel like you
537
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need to be global, that's the way.
538
00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:03.240
And so who would you say is an org that
539
00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:04.119
you look up to them?
540
00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:06.200
Who would you say is like I'm not saying that it
541
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has to be exactly and that they do a lot
542
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of education.
543
00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:13.119
Would you say, I mean they've done a little bit,
544
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but well you looked. So I spoke to Michael Medell
545
00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:18.519
before I set up Opole and talked about what's the
546
00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.480
issues in the sports what what would you say is different?
547
00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.319
Like he was like, Oh, I mean a world champion
548
00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:26.279
at this age doesn't matter what age, I can still
549
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be a champion. Some people say that you need if
550
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you're surpassed a certain age, you can't be any sports
551
00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:32.920
player anymore. But that's not true. You just got to
552
00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.480
develop to either a different game or but.
553
00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:38.039
When it comes okay, So so that you would say that, right,
554
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But I think when it comes to the pinnacle of it,
555
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would you say, like the reaction times when you're talking
556
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about if.
557
00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:47.240
I mean, there's been that, right, but not every game
558
00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.240
needs the action time. Some games are slower, some games
559
00:20:50.279 --> 00:20:51.640
are faster as are.
560
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So here's one for you.
561
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Then if do you think people that started playing at
562
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sixteen they would I mean the time became the twenty six,
563
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twenty seven, ten years of constant esports.
564
00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.559
But a lot on somebody. Yeah, chaining, Like, I think.
565
00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:07.559
It just depends how it's run as long as it doesn't
566
00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:09.319
take over your life and you've got that time to
567
00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:11.720
like sit back and chill. Now again, I think you're
568
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not going to be overworked.
569
00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:14.880
And what would you give advice to kids that my
570
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bell like brun of the candle at both ends and
571
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wanting to do it take two days off just like
572
00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:21.839
do you have your weekends?
573
00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.680
Yeah, every weekends, And I mean I'm one to do
574
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all the way through the week I'll do I'll go
575
00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.200
to college and I'll be doing esports and I'll be
576
00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:31.960
doing my business at the same time. Like, yeah, I'll
577
00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:34.519
feel overworked two points, but since it comes a weekend,
578
00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.119
that's you. You cant do whatever you want. Yeah, It's
579
00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:39.279
one of those things I love for the game.
580
00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:41.839
And when you say I'm interested with regarding kids that
581
00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.440
are turning up and doing the kind of college course, Like.
582
00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:47.519
If you have you done a full year with a group, Yeah, with.
583
00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.839
The teaching, yeah, almost almost.
584
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.759
So it would you say that you've seen any progress
585
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:54.640
and development and confidence or.
586
00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:58.079
Yeah, there's been a lot of confidence changes. It's more
587
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after you've done a lesson, you've got to work. How
588
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are you gonna get these kids are hyper all the
589
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.799
way down a little bit because you've got kids that
590
00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:06.599
are running in the stareas, are running in the corridor,
591
00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.680
and you gonna have to watch out for that. M M.
592
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:11.599
It's one of those things. You got to stay in
593
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control of how they're running the game. And one thing
594
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I extremely make sure it's put in play as soon
595
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as come to a class. You don't compete against each other.
596
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I feel like that's the same for any other team.
597
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Your teammates, do.
598
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You think because they fall out?
599
00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:28.759
Yeah, every single every single team I've been in, it's
600
00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:32.039
I want to go one v one, stay away from mindset.
601
00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:33.039
It's massively Yeah.
602
00:22:33.240 --> 00:22:36.599
You always think about teamwork, how you can play with
603
00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:39.759
this team, and it's not about all you did something wrong,
604
00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:42.240
it's we did something wrong. You've got to look at
605
00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.079
all the different areas of what's wrong here, what can
606
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we change.
607
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If you don't have that mindset, then you're just going
608
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to go down a massive rabbit hole of just like
609
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it's just.
610
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:52.799
You're just playing souls at that point and stick to yourself.
611
00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.039
But you think about it the traditional sport, I mean obviously,
612
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I mean I'm not overly, you know, I don't know
613
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exactly how football get chained. But you see them all
614
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training against each other. Yeah, you wonder like they have
615
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:04.200
to do that. I suppose at that point, and don't
616
00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:06.039
they don't have a game to can play against. They
617
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:07.799
actually have to tackle each other and maybe go in
618
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for a tackle and training.
619
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But it's not like in other it's not like in
620
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traditional sports. You have scrims. You don't get to practice
621
00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:14.480
and friendlies.
622
00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.400
I suppose ye, yeah, closed doors things, but yeah, not
623
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as much.
624
00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.720
Yeah, you can play a matching football, but you're gonna
625
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.480
be there the whole day, play a game. You're gonna
626
00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.160
be there for twenty minutes. It's not as much time construining.
627
00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:26.839
And I suppose you've got to find the right balance
628
00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:28.240
and a team, don't you Because you don't want you want.
629
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.160
If you've got players that will be really good, then
630
00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:31.799
that comes with ego a lot of time because there
631
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.680
used to being ego within their regroup, their disco, the
632
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:36.359
best player and then they'll come together.
633
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:38.400
I wonder how that, Yeah, you can manage that.
634
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:41.839
You do. See how you sometimes have this very confident
635
00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:45.119
player and since been to the team, they're silent, son quiet.
636
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.799
But everyone that's got confidence has their own levels of
637
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:49.039
where they're going to sit.
638
00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.519
Well, you see that because I went my life whistle
639
00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:53.359
is valorance. So I went back into it since I've
640
00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:54.799
got a PC and I had to do my rank
641
00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.079
matches again, right, and it put me back an iron right. Yeah,
642
00:23:57.519 --> 00:24:03.079
So anyway, so I'm going to this iron lobby. Yeah, commns,
643
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.880
I'm thinking they're just talking, but do you I mean,
644
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:08.279
but then when you go to the other elows very
645
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:09.960
confidents here there.
646
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:13.039
Yeah, it's one of those things like, yeah, if you
647
00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:14.480
play ranked, it's gonna be like that. But I feel
648
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.279
like that's what the communities are for. But I wouldn't
649
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.079
suggest anyone to people. If you want to get in esports,
650
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:22.480
don't play random matches, especially ranked. Don't keep about random
651
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.319
team you need a team to play good, very good. Yeah,
652
00:24:25.640 --> 00:24:27.119
and if you didn't solo, it's kind of one of
653
00:24:27.160 --> 00:24:29.000
those things you need to develop your own ego for
654
00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:30.000
scrims and time.
655
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:31.680
Be so curtos you use the thing, right, Okay, I'm
656
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:33.119
I'm a finalst player.
657
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.160
I want to get involved our team. How do they get?
658
00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:36.720
How would you what recommend would you do?
659
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:38.519
Because because the thing is as well grown up and
660
00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:41.519
my experience, I've always loft gaming, my friends fell off
661
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:43.240
and then you're kind of left the boulder, and I
662
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:45.000
was like, we need to find those other people, don't you?
663
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:47.039
How do you think the best way to find people
664
00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:49.599
for their games are discord discord?
665
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.480
Joining communities that way especially?
666
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.000
I feel like you can join communities and things, but
667
00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:58.839
the Scrims service is what you need to find. That's
668
00:24:58.839 --> 00:24:59.880
where you'll find your teammates.
669
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.359
And so would you say that, like, oh, what's OPO's mission?
670
00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:04.640
Then whisk of mission statement?
671
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:10.519
Like inspire others be different? Like we want to pay
672
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.720
something that no other team's done. But it's not like
673
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.039
we want to be individual. We want everyone else to
674
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:17.119
follow the exact same way.
675
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:19.799
And how do you get so you it's open your company?
676
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.359
Yeah, right, So you've got the passion, you've got the vision,
677
00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:25.240
you're pushing up all the time. How do you find
678
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:27.400
trying to especially the kind of just starting off, how
679
00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:29.640
do you motivate players to come with you in that
680
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.000
journey where maybe just saying, you know, maybe saying, oh,
681
00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.400
your Cody, I like playing that, but yeah, do you
682
00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:34.680
know what I mean?
683
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:36.119
When you're trying to take it serious? How do you
684
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:37.039
manage to kind.
685
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:42.319
Of We've used the inspiration like, we've used the like
686
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:46.240
we've found professionals that are either in education or trying
687
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:48.079
to work the way up in some sort of scene.
688
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.119
But they're not just random people. It's not like you're
689
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.240
random captain on the team. We're using the managers to
690
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.640
motivate these people, getting them into find the tournaments for them,
691
00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.519
and then they're looking forward to something they see how
692
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:04.160
this person is doing things in person and online and giving.
693
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.599
Themselves their own Do you find that captain?
694
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.559
Yeah, Like the captain is the person that they always
695
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.359
look up to us more like your igl sort of thing.
696
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:13.559
So you got to find your captain first, then, yeah.
697
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.640
Captain is your what you need, But the manager you
698
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:18.160
need the tournaments and.
699
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:19.640
So what is the actual structure thrope or caul.
700
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.079
You tell me the people you've got involved don't have
701
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.359
the name dropping, but you can tell them different roles
702
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:23.799
that you've got.
703
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.200
We've probably got with fifty people at least.
704
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.640
Really, yeah, how do you manage that?
705
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.480
Then Discord, Yeah, we got Discord. And then we also
706
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.759
use an app similar to what It's kind of like
707
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:35.640
where you get you're paying things, but in that it's
708
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:37.319
kind of like Messenger. You can all type at the
709
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.279
same time, you can schedule your meetings, you can schedule teams,
710
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:43.480
and it keeps us track of how much you've won,
711
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:45.559
how much you've lost, if people can attend or not
712
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.559
or maybe. And that's one of the things that we
713
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.799
found with especially like training sessions, if someone can't make
714
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:52.839
it and they just say yeah or no, you need
715
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.119
that maybe just in case you need someone else in.
716
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.599
So we kind of kept it so people aren't feeling
717
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.880
like someone's ruined the team. If you're able to put
718
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.480
that maybe then you know, it's not like those things.
719
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.599
We have to have these high expectations of someone turning.
720
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:07.720
And I would actually say that the fact you've got
721
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.920
fifty people that are already presenting with a lot down
722
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.960
to you, mate, I mean you think about I would,
723
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:13.640
because I think it starts at the top, and I
724
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.480
think if you're doing everything that you're doing and you
725
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.799
see a professionally you're doing, I mean I was researching
726
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:18.480
and stuff you've done.
727
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.599
I thought it's looking so good. I've said that things.
728
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.039
But yeah, but that's how people want to join it,
729
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.599
because you know you're serious with it. Yeah.
730
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.319
I think a lot of people have seen that. Is
731
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.960
you can have team managers and things, or your directors
732
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.559
and people that own the team that may look at
733
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.720
it for just money. I'm here to see it. I
734
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.720
want you to win. I'm not here to go here's
735
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.240
an investor. I want your money. I want you to
736
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.240
see you have something beneficial for yourself.
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And so the games that you compete and so are
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you do you compete in the finals?
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Do you compete for yourself as yeah? Yeah, player, coach?
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Yeah, so I'm doing just the team.
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You're always in the squad, yeah, I mean first stay
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with the team sheet Corey.
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Yeah, Well, I mean it was one of those things
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like I competed on the NA team at one point
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and it was just one of those things that like
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we were competing but they needed sub in. I came
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in dominated on it. But it's just one of those
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things like I can motivate players, but if I'm playing
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in a different region, I'm gonna be the same. But yeah,
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like we've got the four rosters right now for games,
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and they're kind of like our structured for it, Like
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we're not involved with like other bigger scenes. But it's
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just like your traditional Rocket League Fortnite College eating the finals.
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We're cautious about for because of the partners and things.
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The fact that you can get like a Ki Kardashian skin, then.
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I don't that today.
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As a gay nofe told me.
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This morning, I was like, that's a great idea by
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them though, right, because there's a lot of longer there
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that maybe want to get, like maybe play with our kids.
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And when you get the.
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Kids, I feel like you can bring us skin into
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the game, but you can't base your whole entire game
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off it. Like you can have your garank games, but
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don't change your home ters if you have a season
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of a game, if you're going to change it just
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for once, yeah, like it ruins the game. That's what
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peoples been away from that thing.
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Yeah, because when the Simpsons one was cool though. Yeah,
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but they didn't do it for long, did they.
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Yeah, but it's one of those things that you just
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you can't base the whole season of it. That you
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can have a skin in the game. That's cool.
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Yeah, that's good.
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I think I've said I keep saying it, but I
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think when things do look a bit better than the rest,
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you've what you've got is probably and I think it's
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really good that you were doing it the Scottish org
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as well. Yeah, and yeah, I just wish all the
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best of me and don't burn out and just keep
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a crafty your weekends, right she just Bunny, thank you.
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We're going to control and compete today. We're joined by
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Cody Henry.
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Are you well? Thank you?
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So Cody, you're.
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An esports teacher, esports player. You've got an esports or
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esports coach.
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In Yeah, I love that.
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Yeah, how did you get involved? Give was your first
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memories of gaming?
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My brother? Why we're playing like Mortal Kombat and is
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really nice? May would just like take us out and
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then come back.
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Was that in the Megga Drive or edge to the Xbox?
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So the Xbox? Okay?
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So yeah, so what.
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Ages your brother scar yet?
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Then?
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What age were you when you used player playing that?
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I must have been about like ten.
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Maybe it was quite gordy with Mortal Kombat? Is the stuff?
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Really I've never played.
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I don't think it's as good as it used to be,
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but I know this it's more like arcade based and I.
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Think right, Yeah, so fighting games was kind of your
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first bet. What other games was your brother into the else.
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Did you expect?
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I think you played a bit ecology, but it wasn't
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like the biggest gamer. But yeah, I kind of just
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like started getting more into it from him, and then
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it was just like the DSK days of that wouldn't
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really castle. Yeah, it's like sports.
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Yeah, and so what was your first memory then I've
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seen competitive realizing that maybe esports was a thing.
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Then Fortnite, to be honest, yeah it was. I did
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Save the World, and then as soon as Foreuner came out,
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I was just that was it, Like I went they
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jump from Call of Duty to Furnite straight away, and
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I just kind of realized as soon as the tournaments
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and I saw the money, that was it. Yeah, that
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was needed to do it.
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And so what made you think that? So did you
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think that? Do you think it was really accessible to you?
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So you've seen that you could get prize pools and
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that you thought wage were you sorry.
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How are you been about thirteen at the time when I.
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And so you actually thought I could do this?
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And yeah, get because obviously it's the same it's the
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same game as everything was playing.
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I went kind of down the content side until I
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actually realized about the.
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Esports and the content creator.
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Yeah, a lot of that, but yeah, it was like
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more when I started, I did the the compete in
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and then the content came around. And that's like as
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soon as I finished school, I took a year out
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traveled with my dad and then went to see my
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brother because he lives in Spain, and I just did
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the content for about a year. It was perfect time
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because then the degree and then they came out, so
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and that's when I was like all right, oh, esports,
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I can actually do something here. And as soon as
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I started doing the experiences from there, that's when there
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was the DNA kids club they had and that's straight venu.
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I need to be a teacher, right, It's great how
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all these things have came about.
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And it's just like sush to the tea.
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Yeah, because I've looked at your stuff and it's it's professional.
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It looks great, like your website, your sponsors, your partners.
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I mean, if anybody wants to look at me, you
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go by the name want ninth Flyer.
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Yeah, that's where had that come about.
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So it was mainly from Fortnite. So it was like
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people said that I had quite like it was like
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I'm flying when I was playing and that like No,
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it's mostly known for like my movement and built and
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then I just added fire and put them both together and.
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It's so mouse and keyboard.
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Yeah, I did play controller, but I'm now keys.
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Right, So when, so when did you make the jump.
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To like mouse yeah season two? For I think it
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was had an Xbox and then I got a really
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low end PC and then ever since I.
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Yeah, because like we do these sports camps and some
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of the kids that come to the camp they play
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Fortnite and I watched them and it's just like they're
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playing an instrument, like it's amazing with the convicing keys,
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like just special and it's like how long did it
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take you to practice and getting good at wild?
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And then I got quite good. Early on the Xbox,
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it wasn't as good, but as soon as I picked
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up keyboard, I started realizing the movement you could do.
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And like some of the streamers you would watch, it's
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you would see gameplay like you had Ninja and stuff
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like that, but there was nothing that would feel like
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you're actually flowing through like music and like montages and
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stuff like follow along with it. And that's like how
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I was like content.
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Yeah, like that, it goes so well with it. And
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what kind of music do you.
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Like a little bit of rap not like the biggest
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into it countries When I think, oh nice, yeah I
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brought up in country.
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I always say that my own dad, Daniel o' donnoll,
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you've already had not that that country, well the American
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New country.
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Yeah, kind of, it's like Morgan Mall and things like that. Yeah,
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it was more like I used to play guitar and
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things as a kid. Sow did like kind of based.
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Off of And do you ever create any your own
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music for the contract?
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I've done it before, but now I just work with
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like music careers to get the copyright claims and things.
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Yeah, you must. I love that arts and I was
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looking at who you learn? What you do is that
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you do take?
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But do you like better than the teaching, the content,
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the coach in the play in or.
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The all right? I love the competing. I wish I
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could do it forever, but I just I don't think
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I could keep up with it. The teacher and I
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get enjoyment from because I just feel like I can
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inspire others and I still get to does mark what
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age I get to? I can still teach. I could
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be fifty sixty even and seventies. I could still be teaching.
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But I love the team management of everything about it.
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I get to go to the events. I get to
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see the events get to play at some points, so
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that's what like the team managements are what I want
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to do, but I'm happy to do a teaching forever.
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And how have you found and so all police sports?
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How did that come about?
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And I kind of realized it wasn't much in Scotland
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but there is at the same time, and I kind
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of wanted to build something that.
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Has a really good as really I think of Scotland,
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yeah that is, but there isn't.
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Yeah, I just wanted to like make something that was
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going to want people to take part in and have
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a development route from all the way from amateur beat anyone,
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older people, younger people, the people I've never played before
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up to like the semi pro and then just like
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mainteain prove sort of seeing. So like my goal for
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it is to get all the different schools and educations
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and things that that involved and have them competing at
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their own bracket level to start jumping into like the
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Semi pro seeing and make money no matter what stage
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you're at. So it's kind of the goal with it
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is to get people to have that stage up and
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then I've built not long ago a training platform similar
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to like human Benchmark and co works. So we're starting
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with it's built. It's really good. It's like five hundred
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to two thousand people using it first they we launched
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it and we've not straight away like there's more education side,
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get involved with it. I've had kids that I do,
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so I do like typing club stuff. Okay, I mean
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we're seeing kids that are not being able to type properly,
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to type in sentences in like less than thirty minutes. Wow,
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it's crazy that the things you can actually see from
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and what is it?
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Are you describing a lutshale but it's alfare what?
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So there's a bit for a warming up so as
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if you're like a pro over it.
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Yeah.
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So it's things for like your back, your posture, your hands,
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making sure they're warned up for that. We've got videos
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that are all categorized for how you can get into
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the esports industry, how you can do your CV, how
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to get involved with certain things, network, and a whole lot.
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And then we have things like ball clickers, aim trainers,
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everything you could possibly get.
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So how did you develop that?
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Then I use the action Yeah, I think it's it's
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something you can use really easily nowadays. But I likely
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just use the I to code most of it. And
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then my dad does web development anyway, so I kind
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of use some of the experiences from that.
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So then market I'll be getting you think about it then, right,
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it's all about how you market these things.
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Now that because we get saturate.
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It used to be behind like a paywall of coders
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and people that can do this. But now yeah, in
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no respect to yourself, but you know you're coming along,
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think how you do it?
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Use AI to make it.
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And yeah, you know what I'm saying, Well, like the
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AI is taking over. Yeah, at the end of the day,
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you can pay people to do well, AI to take
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over your job, but it's never going to be able
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to take over yourself. Yeah, like someone has to code
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it and the end of the day, it's not you
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don't need coding experience, you just have the type of sentence.
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Well, how long didn't get two key to actually pull
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it together?
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Then less than a day? Wowsily it was like two
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days max and was finished and be able to monetize
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it as right, whole thing excellent. We're only recently is
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getting it updated to be the two websites together, right,
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so you can start developing ads through both excellent. It's
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a good way to get involvement of other sponsorships, specially
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in Scotland.
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And you think they're so education. Are you saying the
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education are looking at TB?
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the different typing things like typing clubs and stuff. But
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when these kids are actually competing at the exact same time,
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they're finding more Especially for kids, parents think oh, yeah,
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well there's you can be playing games. You can't play
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on that forever. But moms, if you're making money at
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the same time, you technically got a job, yeah, big time.
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can get you into compete on a game, but you're
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not competing and you can make money at the same time,
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what's stoppening and your parents are gonna want you to play.
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in Queensland University and Australia and the difference between them
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two is like somewhere like the kids seemed more educated
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than the older classes. But as soon as it's brought
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in the type and stuff they wanted to do. And
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then I had the one thing I've never thought i'd
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ever hear is can I get homework? That's what I'm like.
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that a kid would ask for homework?
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to love it, right and if they think get taught
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round the game, and then yes, I was all want
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these kind of models already that I've spent one thousands
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of pounds in coding them and creating them. Worried Now
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if people like yourselves are coming up and just creating
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in a day they're doing I mean.
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and then they get to use it. So the jobs
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haven't been replaced, but they're using AI more often. They
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just need less staff to do that. Role.
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and go, what kind of advice would you give somebody
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that's maybe wanted to create an org then because yours
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looks amazing, looks really nice.
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Like I'm trying to cut the ways of how people
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could get in debt and how they could avoid the
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issues that most teams involve in. Like you're similar to
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a chart, we're similar to a charity, but like we
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run through ways we could make in money without me
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having to spend just for example, like the ads we
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can use that instead of Mega when I need investor,
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I want to waste your money. That's not how I
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want to come across. So we're trying to cut those
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issues that people would run into occasionally with needing the money,
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like you need like what fifty pounds to set up
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as an actual company itself, and then there's obviously hidden
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fees and data protection that you'll need, but it's very
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easily done. Most teams are like clan stream it. It's
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a group of friends. But I set up with four
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or five teams at first with different games, realized you
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need more than one roster, and I feel like if
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every esports team around, every single place in the world
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followed the same structure of amateur semipro and pron involve education.
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invest into teams nowadays because they don't see how the
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ROI rights could get get to them. So if we've
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started seeing if you involved, that the sponsors will get
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involved because they want to be involved with the education,
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and then we can use both back and back facilities
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to run things.
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And so then would you saying, I said, so here
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do you competing?
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Like, Okay, well, I think we've got like a a
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mutual of Embark Studios, right it Yeah, right, I must admit, right,
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So I've seen the finals, you play it, so the
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finals you can that's my game now, right, So when
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the finals.
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I thought, oh, I think like everybody maybe land with everybody.
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It's the use obviously taking it away. And then Arc
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Treaders came out. Yeah right, I'm loving Arc Reader.
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I've seen it.
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So vice were the opposite ends, right that it's Embark
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Studio is the same company, right, And then so last
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night I download to the finals and I got into
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it and I thought, you know what, it's got a
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little bit pet it's got a little better.
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I'm thinking I even yeah, see Destiny King artwork, some
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of the everything. It's it's quite a bit of everything.
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of Duty and Overwatch.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, and then well you can see the Overwatch.
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But for the way you yeah, especially.
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With like the team best. I love being able to
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work as a team, especially the development that you can
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do through and it's not as if you have to
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keep us up to date with the game because it's
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threes all the time. Yeah, so, like, and the best
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thing about the finals is when it first started, there
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wasn't enough people. Well there was, but they brought out
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custom match weeking too late, so it seemed like, oh yeah,
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there's not gonna be an esports scene from this.
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I think it was designed with that in mind, because
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even when you're playing out with the commentary, which is
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really cool touch and it's almost like you're getting commentated
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as your players.
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It does help you, especially with like if a team
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goes down and you can hear when they're going to
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come back in. And one of the best things about
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it is you can predict spawns and then you can
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also force them to be somewhere else. Okay, you're in
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control is almost.
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Like yeah, because I was looking at it's got a
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nice recoil off it as well, I.
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Thought, what to this game? Yeah, I love the snipers
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and the creativity you can do with this game is if.
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Ever, So that's what I say to you. If you
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ever feel a well in doing that jump on ur Raaders, right,
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and if I ever feel a love on that, I'll
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definitely get more of the Finals a go because the
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art Graders have just exploded as.
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Yeah, yeah, yes, I think the next Battlefield developer.
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Yeah, yeah, that's where they went from.
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So how big is the final scene?
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Because I think what's happened is I think the Finals
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have came out right, You've probably got his core following.
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like myself are now looking at the studio and other
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games and I think.
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It's do you see a bit You've seen a rise
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in it in.
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Well a little bit, especially with the new creation of it.
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So we had DreamHack a few weeks ago. Yeah, that
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was It's insane.
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Did you go over?
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No, I was watching it live, but I had a
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few of my friends that are competing live at him.
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But there was not much money involved. In now there is.
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But the best thing about the finals is only about
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twenty thousand players playing actively every day, so there's more
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of a scene if you're involved with actual esports people
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that want to be involved in the scene. It's not
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just random people, it's you're involved in esports community.
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It was just good. I want to be competitive.
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Yeah. Because of the low numbers, it makes everything so
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much easier for finding teammates, for get in touch with people,
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especially the community and the devs that made it. Everyone
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you can just get in touch with. It's not as
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if it's hard to find someone you would just make
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a change.
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And embark studios like that. Yeah.
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Quite, they listen to the community. That's one thing why
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I switched from Fortnite was because they don't listen and
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they just fall partnerships. You can't just forget your community.
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Well worried in case you do listen to the community,
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because they put out a feedback form last night on
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our traders and everybody's morning, and then there was I
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wanted the PV PV but you're like no, But the
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fact that's got PvP elements is what makes it exciting. Yeah,
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you have pvple and then you can just go in
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and extract and it doesn't matter.
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So that's we've had the same issue with the finals.
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There's like different games that they're all ranked.
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Does that have NPCs in it?
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No, No, you can in the practice most Yeah, that's
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what I didn't last It's the most advanced training that
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you could do on there. Like you can actually like
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once you get into the practice, you can go in
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and you can make different scenarios. What happens the bots
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will being they can shoot back at you. You can
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set the difficulty. I've never seen that with any game.
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I was going to say, I mean, it looks like
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they've taken they've basically cherry picked and thought what would
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be the ultimate FPA or something.
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Yeah, the movement looks good.
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Yeah, well, you're coming from a Fortnite and then being
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known as the flyer and known that you're good at movement.
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If you can able to express your skill set on
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it's something that you can get benefits from.
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Especially with like in the finals. The amount of destructivity
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you can just.
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Want to say that, I think that's where the battlefield
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stuff comes from. Yah. If you can destroy a building
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the game.
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You're jelling, Yeah, because you feel like in a game,
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if there's something changing the whole time that you can't
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have it's not the exact same game every time. It's
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it's always different.
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Because I suppose there's another angle, isn't there for like
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a you know, even when they put one of the
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things last night, I've seen somebody put up the skin.
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Of a foam walla wall.
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But you can give you an angle on it.
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Yeah, it's so creative the things you can do.
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But I said to my wife, I was like, I'm
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going to check out, and she's like, just watched a
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stream and I'm like, I want to play it.
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Yeah, I probably should have watched the stream to get
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a feel feel for the maps.
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I think anyone can back up, but it's it's so easy.
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But yeah, I think I think once art crader.
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I mean, the good thing is I felt like we've
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had a bit of a lull of games coming out
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for a while, but it feels like they are kind
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of a.
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Coming and I've started seeing there's a lot more better
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people are wanting to get involved with and more creative.
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Any sides that haven't been brought up before it's not
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the same games.
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No, And then you see the opposite side of it
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where the maybe the black ops and the call of
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duties is getting saturated and the actually just I think
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they're putt a pause on it.
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Yeah, because it did feel like that another Black Ops.
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It was like it was too much. You were not
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bothered anymore.
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They're always been battling the battlefield.
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Yeah, battlefield. Did you play the Battlefield sex?
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I've played it before. Yeah, it was fun, but I
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think it's too.
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Like this is how this is art creaders were right Battlefield,
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Battlefield Batlefield Batfield Artcraaders and I've never touched it again.
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I was saying a lot to it, Like especially my
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teacher at the college, I've saying that he was doing
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Battlefield and he stuck to it. But I feel like
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you definitely have the two side with a very similar.
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And how much do you think when you're doing the teaching,
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these always chat with games half the time.
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I probably don't, but I only do.
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But it's it's more like they want to improve, they
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want to get something from it. Especially like before I
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started doing the teaching, I looked a lot into the
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F one and how you can actually use like you've
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got your data analytics. You've got that's like your speed distance,
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all things that link into STEM subject.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and that's how it's you can it doesn't matter
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what age. It can be involved with any education.
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And so do you think you can attrict the class
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into talking about a certain subject. But really in a
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CeNSE you'd bring it around to a STEM subject, which
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is good.
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That's so much to esports, Like you've got your broadcasts,
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you come and marketing there's it doesn't matter what you do,
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it's all going to link into other jobs.
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And everybody says like, is e sports a sport? I
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think I don't think it's a sport. I think it
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can be a sport. Yeah, it can be education, that's
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what it is. Yeah, I think that that kind of
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cuts that chat right away. It's not it isn't just
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a where you just used to be in the world
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of like, Okay, that's a sport. It's pigeonholed and that's
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that and that's all it can do. But now esports
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are so much more. You can do so much work.
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Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to the Olympics. I think
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that'll be the games.
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You think are going to be in there, then I'm hoping.
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It's an all sports best. I would like to see
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some shooter games.
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The finals looks like it could cut the finals to
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be because it looks futuristic, right, doesn't look like it's
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an a war zone, doesn't look like you're Vietnam or
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anybody's playing, but it does look their future. When that
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seems like something that was a bit more, I think
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we'd get get away with it.
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Possibly, Yeah, I mean it's one of those things where
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the right people Yeah, yeah, it's true, but it's one
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of those things that the finals is just esports players.
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People are concerned whether the numbers and things, but it's
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esports players and you guys are just playing games. There's
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two sides.
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If you want to be just esports the fingers and so.
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How do it?
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Was always it's a free game? Is it just skins
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and cosmetics that you pay for?
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You can customize anything? Right?
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How much have you spent on it?
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I hope the girlfriend's not watching.
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I just proved to be much are, isn't it?
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Yeah?
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I love the game. There's so much in customize everything,
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more than how you dress in the morning. It's really
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much customization.
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So that's good then, so hopefully that's what's going to
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happen in our traders as well.
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Hopefully. Yeah, I think there's a lot to come.
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Yeah, definitely, So tell me then, where do you see yourself?
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And like, okay, Opal, hope be your your dream for Opal?
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If I said to you five year plan, where would
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you like Hopole to be? Who would you like to achieved?
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Opal? I want a facility which can involve all education
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from all of Europe. We'll start off in the UK
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and then go Europe, have everyone involved together, and then
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we'd like to say world champions at some point of
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some game.
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Of some game.
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Yeah, and how hard do you think it is then
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to be ahead of the curves? They say, okay, we're
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going to jump into the finals and then nobody's maybe
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that's not picking up. And if you've seen some orgs
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do that were like Marvel Rivals, like Sentinels went into it,
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pulled out. I think they're all thinking a game is
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going to be hot. But then because the esports can
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be so.
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Well, that's the thing. If you look at college, it's
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always been there, but it's not like heavily looked at
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for the esports.
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So I was going to say, so, yeah, so where
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would you see then? What team would you go into?
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Because obviously, in a sense you've got to look at
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the long term and think what is a player based
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There is a people in Scotland that like it. I mean,
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would you rather have Scottish talent obviously so you could
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meet them?
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Yeah, I would love to say that. That's where I've
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started doing more. It's more Scottish players. But I feel like, well,
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especially with all the sports teams, they need to start
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developing either towns or countries because not every country has
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got its own national team. I would like to see
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that football.
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Yeah, I mean esports. Whales do it quite well.
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I think Jackson they've done amazing, but Wales have kind
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of stayed inside themselves. All the money is in one place.
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They're not competing in external tournaments other than the globals.
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And do you think that's good to us? Do you
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think in a sense that there's nothing wrong with that?
528
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Then to begin with, I mean you think about growing
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something and giving it a bit of like giving a
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team history. Yeah, there's a lot of sport relies on history,
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past experiences, rivalry, So creating that in a sense.
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I mean it makes the country known for it, but
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I don't think it gets it known to other countries,
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like for the UK, it's different. We've got all these
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different countries and one place. But it's the same with
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America if they did that. But I feel like you
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need to be global, that's the way.
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And so who would you say is an org that
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you look up to them?
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Who would you say is like I'm not saying that it
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has to be exactly and that they do a lot
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of education.
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Would you say, I mean they've done a little bit,
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but well you looked. So I spoke to Michael Medell
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before I set up Opole and talked about what's the
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issues in the sports what what would you say is different?
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Like he was like, Oh, I mean a world champion
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at this age doesn't matter what age, I can still
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be a champion. Some people say that you need if
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you're surpassed a certain age, you can't be any sports
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player anymore. But that's not true. You just got to
552
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develop to either a different game or but.
553
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When it comes okay, So so that you would say that, right,
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But I think when it comes to the pinnacle of it,
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would you say, like the reaction times when you're talking
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about if.
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I mean, there's been that, right, but not every game
558
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needs the action time. Some games are slower, some games
559
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are faster as are.
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So here's one for you.
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Then if do you think people that started playing at
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sixteen they would I mean the time became the twenty six,
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twenty seven, ten years of constant esports.
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But a lot on somebody. Yeah, chaining, Like, I think.
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It just depends how it's run as long as it doesn't
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take over your life and you've got that time to
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like sit back and chill. Now again, I think you're
568
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not going to be overworked.
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And what would you give advice to kids that my
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bell like brun of the candle at both ends and
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wanting to do it take two days off just like
572
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do you have your weekends?
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Yeah, every weekends, And I mean I'm one to do
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all the way through the week I'll do I'll go
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to college and I'll be doing esports and I'll be
576
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doing my business at the same time. Like, yeah, I'll
577
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feel overworked two points, but since it comes a weekend,
578
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that's you. You cant do whatever you want. Yeah, It's
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one of those things I love for the game.
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And when you say I'm interested with regarding kids that
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are turning up and doing the kind of college course, Like.
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If you have you done a full year with a group, Yeah, with.
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The teaching, yeah, almost almost.
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So it would you say that you've seen any progress
585
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and development and confidence or.
586
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Yeah, there's been a lot of confidence changes. It's more
587
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after you've done a lesson, you've got to work. How
588
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are you gonna get these kids are hyper all the
589
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way down a little bit because you've got kids that
590
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are running in the stareas, are running in the corridor,
591
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and you gonna have to watch out for that. M M.
592
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It's one of those things. You got to stay in
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control of how they're running the game. And one thing
594
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I extremely make sure it's put in play as soon
595
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as come to a class. You don't compete against each other.
596
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I feel like that's the same for any other team.
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Your teammates, do.
598
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You think because they fall out?
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Yeah, every single every single team I've been in, it's
600
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I want to go one v one, stay away from mindset.
601
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It's massively Yeah.
602
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You always think about teamwork, how you can play with
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this team, and it's not about all you did something wrong,
604
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it's we did something wrong. You've got to look at
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all the different areas of what's wrong here, what can
606
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we change.
607
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If you don't have that mindset, then you're just going
608
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to go down a massive rabbit hole of just like
609
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it's just.
610
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You're just playing souls at that point and stick to yourself.
611
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But you think about it the traditional sport, I mean obviously,
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I mean I'm not overly, you know, I don't know
613
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exactly how football get chained. But you see them all
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training against each other. Yeah, you wonder like they have
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to do that. I suppose at that point, and don't
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they don't have a game to can play against. They
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actually have to tackle each other and maybe go in
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for a tackle and training.
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But it's not like in other it's not like in
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traditional sports. You have scrims. You don't get to practice
621
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and friendlies.
622
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I suppose ye, yeah, closed doors things, but yeah, not
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as much.
624
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Yeah, you can play a matching football, but you're gonna
625
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be there the whole day, play a game. You're gonna
626
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be there for twenty minutes. It's not as much time construining.
627
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And I suppose you've got to find the right balance
628
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and a team, don't you Because you don't want you want.
629
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If you've got players that will be really good, then
630
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that comes with ego a lot of time because there
631
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used to being ego within their regroup, their disco, the
632
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best player and then they'll come together.
633
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I wonder how that, Yeah, you can manage that.
634
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You do. See how you sometimes have this very confident
635
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player and since been to the team, they're silent, son quiet.
636
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But everyone that's got confidence has their own levels of
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where they're going to sit.
638
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Well, you see that because I went my life whistle
639
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is valorance. So I went back into it since I've
640
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got a PC and I had to do my rank
641
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matches again, right, and it put me back an iron right. Yeah,
642
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So anyway, so I'm going to this iron lobby. Yeah, commns,
643
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I'm thinking they're just talking, but do you I mean,
644
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but then when you go to the other elows very
645
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confidents here there.
646
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Yeah, it's one of those things like, yeah, if you
647
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play ranked, it's gonna be like that. But I feel
648
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like that's what the communities are for. But I wouldn't
649
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suggest anyone to people. If you want to get in esports,
650
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don't play random matches, especially ranked. Don't keep about random
651
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team you need a team to play good, very good. Yeah,
652
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and if you didn't solo, it's kind of one of
653
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those things you need to develop your own ego for
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scrims and time.
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Be so curtos you use the thing, right, Okay, I'm
656
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I'm a finalst player.
657
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I want to get involved our team. How do they get?
658
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How would you what recommend would you do?
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Because because the thing is as well grown up and
660
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my experience, I've always loft gaming, my friends fell off
661
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and then you're kind of left the boulder, and I
662
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was like, we need to find those other people, don't you?
663
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How do you think the best way to find people
664
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for their games are discord discord?
665
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Joining communities that way especially?
666
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I feel like you can join communities and things, but
667
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the Scrims service is what you need to find. That's
668
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where you'll find your teammates.
669
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And so would you say that, like, oh, what's OPO's mission?
670
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Then whisk of mission statement?
671
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Like inspire others be different? Like we want to pay
672
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something that no other team's done. But it's not like
673
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we want to be individual. We want everyone else to
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follow the exact same way.
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And how do you get so you it's open your company?
676
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Yeah, right, So you've got the passion, you've got the vision,
677
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you're pushing up all the time. How do you find
678
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trying to especially the kind of just starting off, how
679
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do you motivate players to come with you in that
680
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journey where maybe just saying, you know, maybe saying, oh,
681
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your Cody, I like playing that, but yeah, do you
682
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know what I mean?
683
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When you're trying to take it serious? How do you
684
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manage to kind.
685
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Of We've used the inspiration like, we've used the like
686
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we've found professionals that are either in education or trying
687
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to work the way up in some sort of scene.
688
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But they're not just random people. It's not like you're
689
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random captain on the team. We're using the managers to
690
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motivate these people, getting them into find the tournaments for them,
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and then they're looking forward to something they see how
692
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this person is doing things in person and online and giving.
693
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.599
Themselves their own Do you find that captain?
694
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.559
Yeah, Like the captain is the person that they always
695
00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:11.359
look up to us more like your igl sort of thing.
696
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:13.559
So you got to find your captain first, then, yeah.
697
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.640
Captain is your what you need, But the manager you
698
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:18.160
need the tournaments and.
699
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:19.640
So what is the actual structure thrope or caul.
700
00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.079
You tell me the people you've got involved don't have
701
00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:23.359
the name dropping, but you can tell them different roles
702
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:23.799
that you've got.
703
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.200
We've probably got with fifty people at least.
704
00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.640
Really, yeah, how do you manage that?
705
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.480
Then Discord, Yeah, we got Discord. And then we also
706
00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.759
use an app similar to what It's kind of like
707
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:35.640
where you get you're paying things, but in that it's
708
00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:37.319
kind of like Messenger. You can all type at the
709
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.279
same time, you can schedule your meetings, you can schedule teams,
710
00:26:40.720 --> 00:26:43.480
and it keeps us track of how much you've won,
711
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:45.559
how much you've lost, if people can attend or not
712
00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:47.559
or maybe. And that's one of the things that we
713
00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.799
found with especially like training sessions, if someone can't make
714
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:52.839
it and they just say yeah or no, you need
715
00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:55.119
that maybe just in case you need someone else in.
716
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.599
So we kind of kept it so people aren't feeling
717
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.880
like someone's ruined the team. If you're able to put
718
00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.480
that maybe then you know, it's not like those things.
719
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.599
We have to have these high expectations of someone turning.
720
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:07.720
And I would actually say that the fact you've got
721
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.920
fifty people that are already presenting with a lot down
722
00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.960
to you, mate, I mean you think about I would,
723
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:13.640
because I think it starts at the top, and I
724
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.480
think if you're doing everything that you're doing and you
725
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.799
see a professionally you're doing, I mean I was researching
726
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:18.480
and stuff you've done.
727
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:20.599
I thought it's looking so good. I've said that things.
728
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.039
But yeah, but that's how people want to join it,
729
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:24.599
because you know you're serious with it. Yeah.
730
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.319
I think a lot of people have seen that. Is
731
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.960
you can have team managers and things, or your directors
732
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:32.559
and people that own the team that may look at
733
00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:34.720
it for just money. I'm here to see it. I
734
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.720
want you to win. I'm not here to go here's
735
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.240
an investor. I want your money. I want you to
736
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.240
see you have something beneficial for yourself.
737
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:44.599
And so the games that you compete and so are
738
00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:46.279
you do you compete in the finals?
739
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:50.000
Do you compete for yourself as yeah? Yeah, player, coach?
740
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:51.440
Yeah, so I'm doing just the team.
741
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:54.519
You're always in the squad, yeah, I mean first stay
742
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:55.400
with the team sheet Corey.
743
00:27:55.720 --> 00:27:57.240
Yeah, Well, I mean it was one of those things
744
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.160
like I competed on the NA team at one point
745
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:02.720
and it was just one of those things that like
746
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.000
we were competing but they needed sub in. I came
747
00:28:06.039 --> 00:28:09.960
in dominated on it. But it's just one of those
748
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.440
things like I can motivate players, but if I'm playing
749
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.079
in a different region, I'm gonna be the same. But yeah,
750
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:17.839
like we've got the four rosters right now for games,
751
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.240
and they're kind of like our structured for it, Like
752
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.200
we're not involved with like other bigger scenes. But it's
753
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.720
just like your traditional Rocket League Fortnite College eating the finals.
754
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:31.799
We're cautious about for because of the partners and things.
755
00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.279
The fact that you can get like a Ki Kardashian skin, then.
756
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:35.440
I don't that today.
757
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.000
As a gay nofe told me.
758
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:38.839
This morning, I was like, that's a great idea by
759
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:40.400
them though, right, because there's a lot of longer there
760
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:42.039
that maybe want to get, like maybe play with our kids.
761
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:42.759
And when you get the.
762
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.519
Kids, I feel like you can bring us skin into
763
00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.640
the game, but you can't base your whole entire game
764
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.519
off it. Like you can have your garank games, but
765
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.079
don't change your home ters if you have a season
766
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.599
of a game, if you're going to change it just
767
00:28:55.640 --> 00:28:59.480
for once, yeah, like it ruins the game. That's what
768
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:00.680
peoples been away from that thing.
769
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.200
Yeah, because when the Simpsons one was cool though. Yeah,
770
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.599
but they didn't do it for long, did they.
771
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:06.359
Yeah, but it's one of those things that you just
772
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.440
you can't base the whole season of it. That you
773
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:09.880
can have a skin in the game. That's cool.
774
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:15.640
Yeah, that's good.
775
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:17.319
I think I've said I keep saying it, but I
776
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.599
think when things do look a bit better than the rest,
777
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:22.279
you've what you've got is probably and I think it's
778
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:23.839
really good that you were doing it the Scottish org
779
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:25.799
as well. Yeah, and yeah, I just wish all the
780
00:29:25.839 --> 00:29:27.519
best of me and don't burn out and just keep
781
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.759
a crafty your weekends, right she just Bunny, thank you.