Briefly Focused: Using ChatGPT to Improve Lawyering with ADHD | Lawyering with ADHD

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I am Alla Policastro, CLE advisor for the Beverly
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Hills Bar Association. And I am delighted to
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introduce today's program, Briefly Focus. It's
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a part of the Briefly Focus series and it's using
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chat GPT to harness your improve your lawyer
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with ADHD. I'm delighted to introduce our speaker,
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Sonia Siegler. Sonya is the best -selling author
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of Welcome to the Next Level and What's Next
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for My Career. She's the founder and CEO of PractiGal
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Coaching and Consulting, where she helps high
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-achieving women create fulfilling, balanced
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careers. With over 25 years of experience as
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an IP and corporate attorney, Sonya has worked
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with companies ranging from Sega and Intuit to
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pioneering AI startups like CataFora. A passionate
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advocate for women in tech, She blends legal
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expertise, strategic thinking, and a genuine
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commitment to empowering others. We can't wait
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to hear her insights today. Over to you. Thank
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you, Ala. I'm so glad to see you today. And thank
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you, Suzy. I am going to share a little bit about
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what we can do to help our ADHD. So you can see
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my hobbies behind me. You can really get an idea
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that it's true. So I'm going to share my screen,
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and we'll get started. So I am Sonya Sigler,
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and I'm so glad you guys are here. And if you're
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here, you're likely a lawyer who has ADHD or
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struggles with focus, organization, time management.
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Just know that you're not alone. Lawyers face
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high demands and All the traditional productivity
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methods don't always work for us. So let's get
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to it. I'm the founder of PractiGal Coaching
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and Consulting and I work with lawyers and entrepreneurs
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and I help them get to the next level for their
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business and for their life. And today's session
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I want to say is going to be interactive. And
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if you give me just a second, I got to pause
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this for a second and stop my share so that I
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can actually see. the Q &A, because I want to
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answer questions as we go along and I don't want
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to miss what we've got going on. Alla, if you
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can let me know that my slides are still visible.
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The slides are gone right now, actually. Slides
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are gone. Okay, let me share. That'll work better
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then, huh? Too many windows open. Okay, hopefully
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that's working. Oh good. Yay. So like I said,
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today's session is going to be interactive, actually
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starting with me. I have two questions and then
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we'll learn a little bit more about how we can
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use ChatGPD to help us manage our ADHD. So first,
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what's your biggest challenge as a lawyer with
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ADHD? And you can go ahead and put it in the
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Q &A box. I know what my biggest challenge is.
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It's staying focused and on the priority that
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I need to get done that day. And I use stickies.
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I have stickies around my computer screen. That's
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my current method. So what's your biggest challenge
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with ADHD as a lawyer? Like I said, go ahead
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and put that in the Q &A. And then the second
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thing, what was the last thing you asked AI?
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What was the last thing you asked AI if you were
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using ChatGPD or Claude or Jasper or Dolly or
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whatever? What was the last thing you asked AI?
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Let's see. Let's talk about the biggest challenges.
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Focus, time management, remembering to -dos,
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not getting distracted. not being distracted
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by the tasks that randomly popped up in my brain.
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That is why I keep a pad of stickies in every
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room so I can write those random thoughts down
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because if I write them on my phone in the note
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app, I never go back and look at it. But the
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sticky is right there. So that's one way I deal
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with it. Let's see. Returning client calls. Oh,
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yeah. We'll talk about that in time blocking.
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Getting started prioritizing tasks. Yes, getting
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started is one of the ones I have an issue with.
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Starting difficult or boring tasks. Oh my God,
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boring tasks. We are going to spend a whole section
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on that. I don't know if I'm ADHD, but I certainly
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get easily distracted and I'm always chasing
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the shiny new toy. Absolutely. That sounds like
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one of the symptoms I suffer from. Time management,
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Cobra issue, getting started on work, staying
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focused. Boring and tedious tasks. We're going
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to spend a few minutes on that because that one's
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important to understand why. Let's see, switching,
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task switching, yes. Drafting a complaint for
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AI usage, okay. Capturing all the time on different
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projects. I will talk about that because that
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is why I do not work at a law firm. Getting all
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my priority tasks done in a timely manner, yes.
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Helping generate a takeaway for an article I
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wrote, yeah. Chat GPT could be really helpful
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for generating takeaways. But you also want to
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look through is that really the... most high
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priority takeaway. Let's see, I hate returning
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client calls. Rewriting some discovery. Yeah,
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that could be a rabbit hole. Last thing I asked
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AI was clean up a memo I had drafted. Yes, one
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of the things I do is I use it to make things
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nicer, make things friendlier. I tend to be just
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the facts. I asked Chat TV to provide a case
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on point for a research project I was working
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on. Brand new to chat GPT. Yes. Okay. We've got
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all across the board. So using AI effectively
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and efficiently is such an important topic and
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I'm glad you guys are all here. So let's get
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started. Why are we here today? So we're here
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because Belinda McCauley, the executive director
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of Beverly Hills Bar Association asked for help
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in understanding chat GPT and what it could do.
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And I gave her a demo of the tool and it turns
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out a lot of what I use chat GPT for is related
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to ADHD issues like forgetting to eat because
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I'm so into what I'm doing that I forget or the
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opposite problem. It's somehow three hours later
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and I fell down a rabbit hole researching things
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and now I'm researching Icelandic yaks and how
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I can incorporate their belly hair into my next
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knitting project and I need to get back on track.
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And that's a little bit of an aggression. So
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we'll set the context of AD, HD, and why tools
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like ChatGPT can really help us manage our lives
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better, both personal and professional. Then
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I'm going to chat about the tool itself. So I'll
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give you a little overview of the tool. And I
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want to talk about the spectrum of impact, of
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the importance of who's seeing the information
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that you're generating using something like ChatGPT.
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Then I'll talk about query basics and the do's
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and don'ts and how to actually use the tool.
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And then I'm going to talk about, we're going
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to do a demo. So if you have something you want
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to ask for the demo or anything, you can put
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that in the Q &A window. I have three things
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that I'll set up for the demo, but if we have
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some things we can put in there, I'll take that
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too. And then we'll chat about cautions and what
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what we should be aware of and what's not a good
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use for this tool. So we manage a complex juggling
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act if you have ADHD and you were lawyering.
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It's a perfectionist, high pressure industry.
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So chat GPT can be the tool to reduce all that
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friction, save time, help you get things done.
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So I just want to say it's not a panacea and
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it's not a replacement for lawyers. This is really
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about practical wins. It's not about theory today.
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So I just want to set that context. I want to
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share a little bit about me. Like I said, my
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name is Sonia Sigler. I've been an IP and corporate
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lawyer for about 30 years. I'm just going to
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stop doing the math now. I worked at 800 pound
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gorilla companies like Sega and Intuit and then
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startups for the last 20 years, including Catafora,
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which is one of the pioneering AI companies in
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the legal field. It's in the e -discovery, predictive
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coding, technology -assisted review space. So
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I have a lot of experience using highly powerful
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tools. Then in 2018, my husband, after we got
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married in 2017, he's like, why don't you just
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start your own coaching firm? You're doing all
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this on the side. So I had started doing it on
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the side in 2015, and he's like, why don't you
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just do it full -time? So that's what I started
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in 2018. Along the way, I published a couple
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of books on career management. So everything
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I learned the hard way, I've shared in those
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books. And then including the last one on self
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care, which I did a wellness one for Beverly
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Hills Bar Association a couple of weeks ago.
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So if you haven't seen that, that one's really
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important as well. So why AI? Well, the subject
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is near and dear to my heart. And I've spent
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most of the last 20 years teaching lawyers, thousands
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of lawyers about AI and the tools and what they
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can do, how to use them, how they can see statistics
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and linguistics as the foundation of what these
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tools are. And then to find the information when
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they need it. So litigation, investigations,
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all that side of things. So who can tell me why?
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Who can tell me why I went from Sega and Intuit
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to startups? I was at two amazing companies.
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So after eight years, I left to go to a company
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with four people and an idea. So why did I leave
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the law behind or try to leave it behind? And
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I took a VP of business development position
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at a startup. Too much structure. Okay, what
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else? And then I changed again to teach and write
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and travel to speak around the world and to help.
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high achievers who feel stuck or scattered like
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I was. More flexibility at a startup. Novelty.
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Ooh, Michelle got it right. That's right. ADHD.
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So what happened? That's right. I was super bored
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and I needed something new and novel. More stimulating
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and challenging, yes. So as if juggling my newborn
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and a toddler and going to night classes for
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an MBA weren't enough at that time, I really
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needed challenging, stimulating work. And the
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three years I spent at Sega and the five years
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I spent at Intuit, everything had become routine
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for me. So that reward and motivation center.
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it doesn't work the same for us as it does everybody
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else. We need dopamine and we need a lot of it
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and we need way more of it to activate our reward
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centers to be motivated enough to do the work.
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So that's why repetitive work is excruciating
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for me. And from the comments, I think it's excruciating
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for some of you as well. So as CFO, I was general
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counsel and CFO for some of the years at CataFora
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and I felt like, didn't I just do that yesterday?
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having to send invoices out monthly. So that
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kind of repetitive work was not for me. So even
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at a startup, I had to do some of that repetitive
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work. I want to talk about the pain of time tracking,
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all of this stuff. So in six minute increments,
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I just can't do it. I can hardly remember what
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I had for breakfast, let alone track my time
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by the minute. So I mentioned earlier that I
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went in -house. I went in -house directly from
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law school, actually in my third year of law
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school. And I worked at a law firm my second
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year and the time tracking there was enough to
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do me in. So I was like, I never want to work
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at a law firm. I never want to track my time.
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It's not that I don't want to work for a law
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firm. I just don't want to be tracking my time.
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Time blindness and that decision fatigue and
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in our deadline driven industry. I find myself
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laser focused on things when I have a looming
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deadline, usually when I have an article due
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or usually when something is due for a client.
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That's when I'm motivated to do the most work.
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So who's amazing in a crisis? So crisis management.
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That's the other thing we're really amazing at.
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So the risk of all this and the novelty seeking
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is that it can become self sabotaging if we don't
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have enough direction. So that unstructured stimulation
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seeking can lead to impulsive decision -making.
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It can lead to constant job hopping or hobbies
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like I have behind me, or it can lead to other
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unhealthy habits that provide fast but fleeting
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dopamine boosts. So we really need to harness
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tools to help us do that in a way that keeps
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us engaged and keeps us motivated to do the work.
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So why use Chat2B to help you function better
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as a lawyer with ADHD? Because we want to use
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tools like this so that we can do the work that
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is using our highest and best value. Like we
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don't want to do work that fits into somebody
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else's box or somebody else's list of expectations.
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We want to do the stuff that's our highest and
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best use. So let me back up just a second. What
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are lawyers good at? What is your highest and
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best use? Is it arguing, persuading somebody?
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Is it putting the pieces of the puzzle together
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to tell that cohesive story? Is it making a game
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plan, setting the tone and direction and strategy
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of a case or a negotiation? Or is it strategic
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thinking? Yes, I am happy to connect with any
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of you on LinkedIn. Just let me know where you
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found me. We want to use tools like ChatTBD to
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free us up for the good stuff so that we can
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use our higher level thinking, use our judgment,
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be problem solvers. Absolutely. We want to use
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AI tools. like ChatGPT, and I'm going to talk
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about some other tools as well as we go through
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this. We want to use these tools to do the boring,
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repetitive stuff or the low -level hanging fruit
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so that we can concentrate on the fun stuff,
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the good stuff, the problem -solving, hard, challenging,
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interesting work. So let's take a look at ChatGPT
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and where it fits in in helping us function better
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with ADHD. So what is ChatGPT? It's a tool. It's
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a software tool. It's a large language model.
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It is available 24 -7. It never gets tired or
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impatient. It helps you externalize your thoughts.
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And chat GPT, it was a tool set up for chat.
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So think customer service chat agent. So I know
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some people who use this tool and use it verbally.
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So they're always doing audio. I tend to do writing
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because I'm faster at it. But however you want
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to use it, it's a tool to help you get organized.
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to simplify things, to get started on things,
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and hopefully even finish projects. I really
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like to start things. I'm not necessarily a finisher
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on some things as well. But the good news is
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you can use ChatGPT with other tools, so like
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Evernote or Zoom or Otter .ai or Zapier, so many
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others. The good news is you can use it with
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all those kind of different tools. It's not integrated
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with Gmail right now, so you can't just integrate
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it to say, hey, do a reminder for me or set my
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schedule and block off time. We have to do that
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manually still, but we can use the tool to help
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us do some of those things. So before we launch
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into query basics, I really want to talk about
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the importance and impact spectrum. So it's really
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crucial to understand the importance and impact
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of what you're using the tool for. So who's relying
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on it? Is it just you? Is it the public at large?
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a client? Is it opposing counsel? Is it the judges?
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Is it being filed with the court? So the lower
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level things like menu or newspaper article or
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blog or maybe higher level is an industry trade
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journal article. Like the first AI class I did
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for Beverly Hills Bar Association a couple weeks
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ago, that's going to be an article tomorrow in
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the Daily Journal. So whether it's appearing
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in front of peers or industry, colleagues, is
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it marketing materials that are going to go out
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to clients and attract people to you? Is it a
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client letter? Is it a communication with somebody?
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Is it a contract that's going to be signed? So
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the higher we move up the spectrum, the more
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important the impact is, the more we need to
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review our work and pay attention. So if it's
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a regulation that you're interpreting for executives,
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you want to pay attention to that. If it's a
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court filing, absolutely, you're going to be
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spending time verifying what's in there. Cautionary
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note here for anything that's on that crucial
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side of the spectrum. I would use a legal trained
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model So chat GPT is a generally trained model
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on whatever is on the internet and whatever you
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feed it I would use a legal trained model like
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GC AI and that URL for that is get GC AI get
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so I would use a legal Specific tool if I were
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going to do anything in that red area It doesn't
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mean you can't use the tool to help you, but
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you do want to check the work. So how can you
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use chat GPT effectively? So let's chat about
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all those query basics. So I'm going to give
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you a little base information for chat GPT. So
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generative AI tools generate information. They
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make it up. So they make it up based on the underlying
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model. So GPT stands for Generative Pre -trained
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Transformer. It's family of tools. It's a large
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language model developed by OpenAI. Now these
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LLMs generate words, phrases, paragraphs, whole
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articles based upon language using frequency
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of words next to each other, phrases, and then
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what it's fed. So I have a little garbage can
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there. This is about garbage in, garbage out.
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So if it's trained on the whole internet, you're
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going to get a whole lot of things that may not
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be pertinent to what you're writing. I'll just
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tell you about one tool. They assign a number
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to each word and then they look at the frequencies
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and the pairs of those numbers and then they
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structure it into sentences where every word
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is represented by a number. It's called vector
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space modeling. It's basically an algebraic way
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to model a document. Like if you said you need
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more information or you have a letter that's
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kind of a smoking gun or a memo or a text now
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or a slack message, you can say, find me more
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like this document. And then the tool will map
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it and find you more documents just like that.
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So if you've used any of the eDiscovery tools
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or any of the predictive coding tools, that's
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what's going on there. Very similar in the large
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language model that ChatGBT uses is that it's
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modeling all of the language to draft something
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for you. So we're going to concentrate on the
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query basics to help you get the most out of
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these tools. What was the legal -based AI you
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just referenced? Get GC, so GC like general counsel,
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AI. So the URL is getgc .ai. So getgc .ai. And
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then let's see, what else can I tell you about
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this? The better we set the stage for our queries,
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It's just like using the key system in Westlaw
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or whatever to find it. It's elusive to find
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that one key where you know that case is out
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there that can help you, and you just don't know
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the word to use. As a 1L in law school, the case
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we were looking for was under the key lewd and
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lascivious, because that is what's on everybody's
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mind. But that was the key the case was under.
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It's like that. So we have to give it clues.
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We have to set the context for what we're looking
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for and the audience. And I'm going to go through
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each of these. So the more detailed you can be
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in your queries, the better it understands the
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assignment. So think of ChatGBT as an eager intern
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or like a first year associate. versus a fifth
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year associate. The first year, not that strange,
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right? You got to keep repeating things. You
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got to tell them exactly what you want. I want
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it in Times New Roman and 12 .5. And I want it,
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you know, with no indentations, like all of those
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little itty bitty details, let alone the substance
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of what you're trying to get out of them. But
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think of chat GPT like that, an eager intern
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or an eager associate. They want to learn. They
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want to do the right thing. They just don't know
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what it is yet. So I put a picture of coffee
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on here because it's like they go to order you
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a coffee and they don't know what your special
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half calf, lots of foam, you know, not playing
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black coffee drink is. So it just takes time
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and it takes iteration and it takes learning.
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So let's go deeper into what kind of prompts
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we need to be focusing on. Okay. Prompting is
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an art. Some might say it's a science, but it's
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really an art. So what we need to know about
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prompting is it's like searching for that key
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in Westlaw that I just mentioned. Chat GPT works
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the same way. So if you are getting notices to
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buy lists of prompts, don't fall for that. It's
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because context matters here. And these tools
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are changing so quickly that any prompt list
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from yesterday is not going to be the prompt
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you're going to want to use today. So it's a
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living, breathing thing. So let's talk about
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these important considerations here. So remember
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the garbage in, garbage out. If you give it a
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vague prompt, you're going to get a vague answer,
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just like Google, just like Westlaw, Lexis, any
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of those tools. If you're vague, you're going
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to get a vague answer. If you give more specific
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structured prompts, you're going to get targeted
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helpful responses. So I'll give you a vague,
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bad prompt. Write a legal argument. I have no
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context for that, right? I don't know the context,
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but a better prompt might be draft a 500 word
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persuasive argument for breach of contract case
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involving a missed payment, and then please cite
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relevant case law. I gave it a bunch of things,
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right? It also helps to say the role. So give
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it a role. Sorry about that. Tell chat GPT who
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it is. So are you a legal assistant? So act as
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a legal assistant. Act as a first -year associate.
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Act as a smart, eager, you know, trained associate
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or a chief marketing officer or a CEO or a cranky
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senior partner. So you can pick the role that
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they're playing and you could tell chat GPT that's
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who is responding. Okay, so you can also give
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it a purpose. So if you're writing a persuasive
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argument that's going to be filed with the court,
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that's setting the context if it's a court filing.
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You could also set a purpose like I am writing
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a 500 page article that's going to go to the
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Daily Journal and it's going to be for lawyers
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in Los Angeles and San Francisco. I set the purpose
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of that. I've set a little context for that.
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Any background details you want to provide that
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as well. I'm going to talk about tone and voice
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and the output before I go back to sections.
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So tone and voice. When I said I ask it for friendlier
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emails, I'll copy and paste an email I've drafted
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and I'll say, please make this friendlier. It's
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going to nine board members, not other lawyers.
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So now it knows that I'm a lawyer and it's going
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to board members. So it can put that context
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together as well. Tone and style. So if it's
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formal or you want it to be concise, part of
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my brand is I want practical, actionable advice.
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So that's what I ask it to do. If you're in a
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context where you're making persuasive arguments,
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then you're going to ask it to be persuasive.
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So that tone and voice are really important.
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The other thing that's really important about
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tone and voice is you can train it and you can
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give it personas. So I've trained GPT to draft
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articles for my local magazine in my neighborhood
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and I have five years of examples that I've shared
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with it so it's got a really good idea of what
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my tone of voice is and the friendly and the
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you know highlighting good things that are going
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on in our neighborhood so What you do to train
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it is just as important as the individual prompt
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that you give it, because it's going to draw
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on that information. So using a prompt that says
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using what you know about me as a neighborhood
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writer is different than use what you know about
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me as a board member or lawyer. So it's going
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to put a different tone of voice on it. Output
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formats. OK, this is really great. Like if you're
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evaluating a regulation or a new one's come out
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or made some changes, you can have these tools,
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evaluate, summarize, and you can ask for the
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output to be, I want three bullet points, I want
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500 words, I want a table with these three columns,
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and you just use a pipe between the columns that
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you want. There are so many ways to output this
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information. It's just whatever you can imagine,
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okay? And sometimes it'll suggest. ways to do
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it. Do you want a Word document output? Do you
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want a image? Do you want a worksheet to go with
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that? So lots of different ways to do this. Let
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me go back to sections. So sections or chunks.
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Like if you're getting bad information out of
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it or not useful information, you can chunk it
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down. So take a smaller ask. So instead of writing
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the whole 500 word article, ask it for an outline.
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Give me an outline of what I should cover. I'm
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going to talk about embracing AI to a bunch of
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lawyers. What should I talk about? So we have
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so many pieces to putting that context together
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here. So let me, I'll just give you an example.
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So imagine you need a client email summarizing
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a legal memo on intellectual property. And instead
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of saying what's an email about IP rights, try
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act as a legal assistant, draft a professional
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email to a client, summarizing a legal memo on
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IP rights. The client's a small business owner
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concerned about trademark infringement. Please
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use clear, client -friendly language. So it got
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all those elements in there, right? Legal assistant,
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draft a professional email, summarizing, so it
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gives a purpose on IP rights. a better one might
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be summarized trademark information. So yes,
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I can explain and expand on chunking. So if you're
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getting bad information out of it, I'll give
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you an example. Remember I said I forget to eat?
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So one of the things I use it for is to make
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a meal plan for the week. So I ask it to make
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a meal plan and it gave me fluffy big meal plans
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that I'm never gonna cook. So I said, chunk it
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down. Can you make a breakfast plan for me? So
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I just, I narrowed the scope of it. So taking
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a chunk or a section of what I'm trying to do.
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So I just said, let's do breakfast. And then
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it gave me better information. And then I said,
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I want to be able to use ingredients across the
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meals and I want to be able to use ingredients
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from day to day as well. So that's a different
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chunk or a different section. So you can break
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it down into smaller. smaller chunks to solve
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at a pace that the tool is working well at. So
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let's chat about why prompting is iterative.
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Okay, this is a process. This is an iterative
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process. You're going to experiment. You're going
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to see what results you get. You're going to
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test them out. Is it good? Is it bad? Terrible.
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There is no one size fits all. In fact, you could
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put the query in today and get one answer. You
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could put the same query in tomorrow, and you
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.079
might get a completely different answer. Because
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the more people use these tools, the more they're
00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:41.779
learning, the more they're changing. So there
00:28:41.779 --> 00:28:44.640
is no one size fits all here. This is all one
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:46.960
big, giant, colossal experiment. So I'm going
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:49.900
to give you some examples. of prompts to try
00:28:49.900 --> 00:28:51.980
in a minute and I'm going to give you some examples
00:28:51.980 --> 00:28:54.039
just so we can see before we get into the tool.
00:28:55.180 --> 00:28:58.279
So I do want to just caution you that these tools
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:02.359
are evolving and so you just have to keep experimenting.
00:29:03.220 --> 00:29:09.079
So opposition. You can say something like, pretend
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.079
you're the senior partner and I'm giving you
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.000
a memo and we've gone three rounds and arguing
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:17.779
about this and then give me your output. So you're
00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:20.119
setting it up to have a conversation or pretend
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.400
you're the CEO and the CFO having a conversation
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.740
about our budget and why we're over budget and
00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:28.640
then give me the the text or whatever output
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:30.619
you're looking for so you can ask it to play
00:29:30.619 --> 00:29:32.839
a role and you can give it some opposition as
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:42.900
well and you can You can Ask it to go slow so
00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:46.579
you can say take your time you can say No hurry.
00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:50.299
So treat it as a person that you're giving instructions
00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:52.299
to. Like, I don't want you to hurry through this
00:29:52.299 --> 00:29:53.900
work. I want you to take your time and do three
00:29:53.900 --> 00:29:56.640
rounds of opposition before you give me your
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.140
best work. So one of the things I always ask
00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:01.799
it is, are you doing your best work? Like Henry
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:05.059
Kissinger or whoever that was that said it. You
00:30:05.059 --> 00:30:07.599
know, as a first year when you get the like,
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:09.480
is this your best work? And then you're like,
00:30:10.059 --> 00:30:12.900
okay, let me go back and change it. Or let me
00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:16.619
do better. Ask the tool, is this your best work?
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:21.839
I also ask, am I missing anything? What should
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.680
I address that I haven't already covered? So
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.759
you can ask it for information. I like to ask,
00:30:29.859 --> 00:30:32.099
is this your best work? And then did you leave
00:30:32.099 --> 00:30:38.500
anything out? The other thing is, Chat GPT likes
00:30:38.500 --> 00:30:41.980
to summarize things, so asking it for the quote
00:30:41.980 --> 00:30:45.220
so you get the real information as opposed to
00:30:45.220 --> 00:30:46.940
distilled information. That's another important
00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:50.279
point with asking for information is to ask for
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.079
quotes. Especially if you're summarizing the
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.599
law, ask for a quote because it'll give you a
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:57.140
summary that you're like, I don't think that's
00:30:57.140 --> 00:31:01.200
what it said. And I want to prevent that. Let's
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.160
see Heather says I feel like spending the time
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.660
to tell a AI what to do and how to do it proofing
00:31:05.660 --> 00:31:07.940
and then Supplementing it is necessary and takes
00:31:07.940 --> 00:31:10.059
a lot of time. Isn't it just as easy fast to
00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:12.640
write the email article itself? Or am I just
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.440
to get off my long lead? I okay. Here's the value
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.599
of these tools once you train it It's gonna be
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.819
so much faster than you can actually write it.
00:31:22.980 --> 00:31:25.430
So it may take a little time. Like I mentioned
00:31:25.430 --> 00:31:27.269
that neighborhood article, well I've been doing
00:31:27.269 --> 00:31:29.750
that for 15 months in this tool. So what was
00:31:29.750 --> 00:31:32.670
a two -hour process for me to write and meanwhile
00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:34.730
my house was clean and I've done the laundry
00:31:34.730 --> 00:31:36.690
because that's my procrastination technique when
00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:38.569
I sit down to write something. It's like oh that's
00:31:38.569 --> 00:31:41.829
a hot seat, I better go do something else. So
00:31:41.829 --> 00:31:47.250
for me the writing process is a it's a procrastination
00:31:47.250 --> 00:31:52.079
tool. So for me spending the 15 months to train
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.440
it on my five years of past articles and my tone
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.779
of voice. Now it takes 15 minutes. Okay. So just
00:31:59.779 --> 00:32:03.000
like any other software tool, like how much of
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.299
Microsoft Word do we use? Like 1 % of what the
00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:07.900
capabilities are. Chat GPT is like that as well.
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.980
So take the time to train it now and you'll have
00:32:10.980 --> 00:32:13.200
dividends later. And the tools are changing so
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.099
much that you're going to have to continue training
00:32:15.099 --> 00:32:18.950
it anyway. So let's keep going on this. Like
00:32:18.950 --> 00:32:21.670
I said, it's evolving. We just got to keep experimenting.
00:32:23.349 --> 00:32:27.440
So your use cases. So what I use it for is going
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.200
to be different than what Ala uses it for, different
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.700
than what Suzy uses it for, different than what
00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:35.440
Belinda uses it for. So what are your pain points?
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.119
So is it client intake process or is it drafting
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.000
an agreement from scratch? Is it dealing with
00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.599
the sales team? That was one of my favorites.
00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:46.599
Is it handling all the NDAs that keep coming
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.539
in or terms of service? So what do you use frequently
00:32:49.539 --> 00:32:53.380
that you could use help with to go more smoothly?
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.839
So are there bottlenecks where you're always
00:32:56.839 --> 00:32:58.440
waiting on something or someone's always waiting
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:01.700
on you? I mean, is in -house counsel, the sales
00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:03.619
guys, you know, they wanted it yesterday because
00:33:03.619 --> 00:33:05.099
they left it on their desk for a week and then
00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:06.980
they sent it to you and, you know, now they need
00:33:06.980 --> 00:33:12.119
it tomorrow. Where are the bottlenecks in those
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:13.799
processes and procedures and where are the pain
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:16.640
points for you? Like, what could actually happen
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:21.119
to help you make things go smoothly in your practice?
00:33:21.420 --> 00:33:24.079
So I'll give you an example. I have developed
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.960
over time a punch list of typos to look for in
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.720
my documents. I'll give you two examples. The
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.240
comes out T -E -H, because I type faster with
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.819
one hand than the other. And does not comes out
00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:40.859
as doe snot. Not a typo, two words spelled correctly,
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.420
but not a word combination I want to find in
00:33:43.420 --> 00:33:46.819
my document. So what are those that you have
00:33:46.819 --> 00:33:50.630
for you? Let's, you know, let's. retool the process
00:33:50.630 --> 00:33:52.450
using some of these tools to make things go better.
00:33:53.230 --> 00:33:56.509
Is AI more effective to plan what to write, draft
00:33:56.509 --> 00:33:58.970
from scratch, or refine your existing articles
00:33:58.970 --> 00:34:02.849
or emails? Each of these three choices are very
00:34:02.849 --> 00:34:05.109
different uses of the tool. So what's it more
00:34:05.109 --> 00:34:07.690
effective at? You're going to have to see. Because
00:34:07.690 --> 00:34:14.809
what it's effective at for me, and I'll just
00:34:14.809 --> 00:34:16.309
give you, like I've been using this tool for
00:34:16.309 --> 00:34:22.070
about 18 months, is I give it a transcript from
00:34:22.070 --> 00:34:24.510
like today. Like I'm gonna take this transcript
00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:27.309
and I'm gonna say, write me a thousand word article.
00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:29.650
And I'm gonna look at it and I'm gonna be like,
00:34:29.650 --> 00:34:31.650
oh, it missed this or oh, it didn't have this
00:34:31.650 --> 00:34:33.210
in it. And then I'm gonna ask it to do some more
00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:34.690
work or I'm just gonna sit down and I'm gonna
00:34:34.690 --> 00:34:36.250
write that portion into it. And then I'm gonna
00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:39.090
rewrite stuff that, you know, isn't exactly right.
00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:42.170
So it depends on how you've trained the tool
00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:46.099
and how well it knows you. So. you can always
00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:48.579
ask it, using what you know about me, you know,
00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:51.619
draft a 50 word bio, you know, and see, does
00:34:51.619 --> 00:34:54.920
it know you well enough to do that? So in that
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.099
turn, if it doesn't know you and it's drafting
00:34:57.099 --> 00:34:59.139
from scratch, you're probably going to get a
00:34:59.139 --> 00:35:02.019
different level of quality than if it knows you,
00:35:02.340 --> 00:35:04.880
or you've seeded it with like say three other
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.719
bios. If you're refining existing articles at
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.300
your email, it's brilliant at that. and you can
00:35:11.300 --> 00:35:13.940
tell it what tone of voice to use, practical,
00:35:14.340 --> 00:35:16.860
actionable, you know, precise, professional,
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.380
whatever the words are that you want to tell
00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:21.340
it to do, it's going to be very effective at
00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:26.019
refining things, more so than drafting from scratch.
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.690
If I put those in order, I would say planning
00:35:29.690 --> 00:35:32.010
what to write super helpful because it can pull
00:35:32.010 --> 00:35:34.610
out things it can give you an outline and then
00:35:34.610 --> 00:35:37.429
you can ask it is there anything you think should
00:35:37.429 --> 00:35:39.289
go in there that we didn't talk about already
00:35:39.289 --> 00:35:41.010
and it'll give you some worse things to think
00:35:41.010 --> 00:35:43.349
about so it's really an iterative process so
00:35:43.349 --> 00:35:48.050
I think planning what to write very good at refining
00:35:48.050 --> 00:35:50.130
existing emails I would put that second and then
00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:52.150
drafting from scratch I would put third which
00:35:52.150 --> 00:35:54.110
is ironic because that's the whole purpose of
00:35:54.110 --> 00:35:56.630
using one of these tools is to generate the information.
00:35:57.449 --> 00:36:00.610
I hope that answered everything, Varun. What
00:36:00.610 --> 00:36:04.289
are the limits to use of AI where you're charging
00:36:04.289 --> 00:36:06.090
clients for attorney work, but it's not being
00:36:06.090 --> 00:36:09.429
done by an attorney? The work is being done by
00:36:09.429 --> 00:36:13.449
an attorney. You are using the tool. So use your
00:36:13.449 --> 00:36:16.010
judgment on how long it took you to use that
00:36:16.010 --> 00:36:20.230
and how long it took you to edit it. Let's see.
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.800
Is there any way to recover the time spent training?
00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:26.480
You are using the tool to develop client output.
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.539
So I mean, to me, that's billable. Where were
00:36:30.539 --> 00:36:33.800
the three use cases she just mentioned? That
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:38.239
was in a question. How do you literally train
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:40.539
the AI? Do you just keep telling it to do something
00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:42.179
or watch for something? Yes, we're going to do
00:36:42.179 --> 00:36:44.349
a demo in just a second. and you'll get to see
00:36:44.349 --> 00:36:47.170
it in progress. Do you have to register an account
00:36:47.170 --> 00:36:49.550
with a login for it to get to know you? No, there's
00:36:49.550 --> 00:36:51.829
a free version of Chat GPT. Actually, there's
00:36:51.829 --> 00:36:55.130
multiple free versions of Chat GPT. It keeps
00:36:55.130 --> 00:36:58.369
your stuff unless you use a temporary chat or
00:36:58.369 --> 00:37:02.030
tell it not to. So I'll go over that in just
00:37:02.030 --> 00:37:06.909
a second. So back to your use cases. Where are
00:37:06.909 --> 00:37:09.280
your pain points in all this? So let's see how
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.260
it can help you. You're gonna make your own roadmap
00:37:12.260 --> 00:37:14.159
and you're gonna design your own solutions that
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.940
match your way of practicing law and more importantly,
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.300
your flavor of ADHD. So however that appears
00:37:20.300 --> 00:37:24.380
in your life, look for what you can solve for.
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:26.420
So it's gonna look different for you than it
00:37:26.420 --> 00:37:31.059
does for me. You can reframe routine tasks, break
00:37:31.059 --> 00:37:34.840
up the monotony. You can ask ChatGBT for suggestions.
00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:38.780
So how would you approach this? it literally
00:37:38.780 --> 00:37:41.039
is like having an intern or a virtual assistant
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.400
right at your fingertips. So remember, I talked
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.559
about the making a difference process. So that
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.519
was the name of my column. I've taken what took
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.500
two hours. I take all my interview notes. So
00:37:51.500 --> 00:37:55.619
I ask a set of questions. So Varun asked, what's
00:37:55.619 --> 00:37:59.280
it more effective at? Editing something, coming
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.260
up with something on its own or helping get us
00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:05.880
started. Now that I've trained it, I give it
00:38:05.880 --> 00:38:08.179
all of my interview notes and say, hey, these
00:38:08.179 --> 00:38:09.940
are the things I want to concentrate and highlight
00:38:09.940 --> 00:38:13.900
for this person. Please draft a 300 word article.
00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:16.760
And it'll give me a long article. Like if I didn't
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.380
say 300 words, it'll give me like 500, 700 words.
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.119
And I'll be like, oh, can you cut it down to
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.280
300? So I forgot that instruction. But that's
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:27.320
a way that we can use the tool to help us is
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.519
feed it the information we want that's most effective.
00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:33.780
Do you have a list of prompts that we use to
00:38:34.909 --> 00:38:41.730
train the AI? No. No, because it's an iterative
00:38:41.730 --> 00:38:46.570
process. So I'm going to come back to the list
00:38:46.570 --> 00:38:48.489
of prompts in a minute. So leave that one up
00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:50.429
there. Are there limits on the information you
00:38:50.429 --> 00:38:52.929
can share with it for confidentiality reasons?
00:38:53.230 --> 00:38:55.710
Yes. I want to talk about that as well, because
00:38:55.710 --> 00:38:57.750
hopefully when we're testing out the tool, we'll
00:38:57.750 --> 00:38:59.289
hit one of those and I'll go use the other tool.
00:38:59.690 --> 00:39:02.920
Why are AI tools good for legal research? Oh,
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.199
any AI tools that are good for research other
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:09.559
than LexisNexis. OK, the getgc .ai. Brilliant.
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:12.639
Brilliant. I can't say enough good things about
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:18.800
that tool. Yeah. Let's just chat about luring
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.219
with ADHD, and then I'll come back to some of
00:39:21.219 --> 00:39:22.780
these questions when we do the demo, because
00:39:22.780 --> 00:39:25.239
I think they're going to fit in with the places
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:26.860
that we're going to show you how these tools
00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:32.590
work. So when ADHD hits, you have. God, I struggle
00:39:32.590 --> 00:39:34.949
to get started on stuff. It's easier to procrastinate
00:39:34.949 --> 00:39:37.530
than it is to look at a blank page for me. So
00:39:37.530 --> 00:39:39.429
drafting and rewriting totally helps with that.
00:39:39.769 --> 00:39:41.369
If you're feeling overwhelmed, you don't know
00:39:41.369 --> 00:39:43.309
where to start, you can say, hey, help me get
00:39:43.309 --> 00:39:44.969
started. I've got these three things to do today.
00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:47.210
Where should I start? That planning and organization.
00:39:48.190 --> 00:39:50.309
If you can't focus long enough to read something,
00:39:51.050 --> 00:39:54.050
super helpful to have it summarize something.
00:39:54.489 --> 00:39:55.929
What are the three things I need to know about
00:39:55.929 --> 00:40:00.420
this? Deposition, whatever. We talked about this,
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:03.300
losing track of tasks and deadlines. It can help
00:40:03.300 --> 00:40:05.099
you with time management prompts, and I'll show
00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:07.300
you a couple of these. If your mind goes blank
00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:09.480
at the keyboard or with a pen in your hand, it
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.920
can help with writing and it can help drafting,
00:40:13.780 --> 00:40:15.960
all of these things. And like I said, these all
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.719
require... Training the tool. And the more you
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.019
train it, the more it's going to be like you.
00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:22.880
It's basically getting what's in your head out
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.079
into the tool itself. So let's chat about time
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.239
management. This is everybody's fun one. Task
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.960
initiation and prioritization. So if you're struggling
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:35.460
to start tasks, especially complex ones or...
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.900
focusing on urgent but not necessarily important
00:40:37.900 --> 00:40:42.599
work, it can be helpful. Contact switching, so
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:45.260
client emails, jumping between cases, court deadlines,
00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:47.519
all that, it makes it hard to maintain focus.
00:40:48.179 --> 00:40:51.019
Time blindness, you're losing track of time,
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.000
or I'm famous for underestimating time, how long
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.480
it takes. I'll put a list together at the beginning
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:01.349
of the week. And what I've done is like three
00:41:01.349 --> 00:41:03.730
weeks worth of work that I'm going to squeeze
00:41:03.730 --> 00:41:06.710
into one week. So I'm notorious about underestimating
00:41:06.710 --> 00:41:09.530
time that it takes to do things. Tracking billable
00:41:09.530 --> 00:41:12.489
hours, like I said. Forgetting to log time in
00:41:12.489 --> 00:41:14.190
the moment and having to reconstruct it later.
00:41:14.550 --> 00:41:17.489
That's me. Like here it is, you know, April 30th
00:41:17.489 --> 00:41:19.050
and now I got to go reconstruct what happened
00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:21.530
over the month. Terrible. Leads to lost revenue.
00:41:21.690 --> 00:41:24.889
We don't want that. Interruptions and distractions.
00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:28.150
If you've got emails and Slack messages and all
00:41:28.150 --> 00:41:30.230
the things coming in and, you know, messenger
00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:33.130
on your phone and WhatsApp, all the things. Client
00:41:33.130 --> 00:41:35.969
calls, office disruptions, break focus, make
00:41:35.969 --> 00:41:39.389
it really difficult to return and do deep work.
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:43.780
I tend to go to a coffee shop if I know I need
00:41:43.780 --> 00:41:45.980
to do some work because all of that noise is
00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:47.559
going to help me focus on what's in front of
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:51.059
me. Or I have to have it definitely quiet. There's
00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:53.280
like very little in between. So for me, I know
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.380
what's going to work for me. So using ChatGP
00:41:56.380 --> 00:41:58.559
to help with these things to create structured
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:02.340
task lists and workflows. Good use. Automating
00:42:02.340 --> 00:42:05.679
scheduling, reminders and deadlines. Good use.
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.059
Organizing case notes or research efficiently.
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.579
So now we're moving up on that impact scale into
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the higher impact, maybe into the crucial side.
00:42:15.900 --> 00:42:17.619
We're gonna need to pay more attention and train
00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:20.539
it better. So all of the things we've got here.
00:42:20.579 --> 00:42:23.139
So if you've got billable time and you have standardized
00:42:23.139 --> 00:42:25.659
descriptions, it can make a template for you
00:42:25.659 --> 00:42:27.679
so that literally you keep a document open here,
00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:29.679
you cut and paste those descriptions into there.
00:42:29.980 --> 00:42:33.440
If you don't already have that, it can make templates
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:36.340
for you. So particular client, you can keep those
00:42:36.340 --> 00:42:39.639
templates at the ready. It can help you with
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.920
to -do lists and tasks associated with that and
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:45.179
then blocking out calendar time. You could say,
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.380
I've got this big complex brief I've got to write
00:42:48.380 --> 00:42:52.639
on Arisa issues for, you know, client J. Can
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.380
you break this task into smaller steps? And which
00:42:55.380 --> 00:42:58.679
one should I start first? So these suggested.
00:42:59.920 --> 00:43:02.000
phrases for you to put in there, summarize this
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.199
case in plain English, or draft a plain English
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.420
summary of this regulation that I can share with
00:43:08.420 --> 00:43:11.679
the C -suite. Any of those kind of things are
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.039
really, really helpful to give it that context
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:17.679
and purpose. Helpful with deadlines and reminders.
00:43:19.059 --> 00:43:21.860
I'll show you one of those in a minute. I don't
00:43:21.860 --> 00:43:24.920
want to run out of time to do all this. So that
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.119
can really help with getting started. These are
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.159
all in your materials. So I'm going to run through
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.280
two more slides, three more slides so I can get
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:34.099
to the demo. These are all in your materials.
00:43:34.340 --> 00:43:35.760
So I don't want you to feel like you're being
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.699
shortchanged because we're going to just whiz
00:43:38.699 --> 00:43:42.159
through these next couple slides. You can say,
00:43:42.300 --> 00:43:44.659
help me set my priorities for today. Or I got
00:43:44.659 --> 00:43:46.800
to prep for this meeting. Create a three bullet
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.420
briefing for my client call. Really helps to
00:43:50.420 --> 00:43:52.119
pull that information out. It's actually really
00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:56.500
amazing at that. If you suffer from procrastination
00:43:56.500 --> 00:43:59.059
and perfectionism, this is a way to get started
00:43:59.059 --> 00:44:01.719
so that you can do the editing. Or if you've
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:03.260
written something, it's really helpful for it
00:44:03.260 --> 00:44:04.960
to say, can I make this better? Can I make it
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:06.800
more professional? Can I make it more persuasive?
00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:10.519
Can I make it shorter? Like all of those things.
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.500
So these tools are really helpful for focus and
00:44:14.500 --> 00:44:17.460
productivity from that standpoint. Like I gave
00:44:17.460 --> 00:44:21.139
you that. meal planning example. Really helpful
00:44:21.139 --> 00:44:22.699
for things like that as well. And the impact
00:44:22.699 --> 00:44:24.400
of that is low because it's just me that's going
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:27.840
to be using it. If you've got an interview, like
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:29.400
you're interviewing an intern, what are the top
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.840
three questions I should ask this intern? Or
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:33.440
you're interviewing for a job for something.
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:35.800
What are the things I need to know about this
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:41.400
company? If you, like I just had to turn in a
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.530
speaker bio this morning and I... it's for women
00:44:44.530 --> 00:44:46.849
in e -discovery. So I wanted it to be more focused
00:44:46.849 --> 00:44:49.170
on that aspect of it rather than the wellness
00:44:49.170 --> 00:44:53.110
and the career management books. So I asked it
00:44:53.110 --> 00:44:55.230
to rewrite my bio based on what it knows about
00:44:55.230 --> 00:44:57.849
me and based on my LinkedIn profile and based
00:44:57.849 --> 00:45:00.329
on my website. And it gave me a couple of examples.
00:45:00.349 --> 00:45:02.969
And so I edited those and sent it on its way.
00:45:03.409 --> 00:45:07.449
So these kind of productivity hacks, super helpful.
00:45:10.929 --> 00:45:12.590
So Calvin, I'm going to answer your question.
00:45:12.670 --> 00:45:14.869
Do you have a list of prompts that we can use
00:45:14.869 --> 00:45:20.110
to train the AI? There's not one list out there.
00:45:20.110 --> 00:45:21.889
And if you see lists from people, it's not going
00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:26.289
to be useful for you. So you kind of need to
00:45:26.289 --> 00:45:28.309
use it in the context of whatever problem you're
00:45:28.309 --> 00:45:29.969
trying to solve. So whatever that bottleneck
00:45:29.969 --> 00:45:33.630
is, whatever that you're trying to solve, that's
00:45:33.630 --> 00:45:37.570
what you want to use, not some random list of
00:45:37.570 --> 00:45:40.619
prompts. OK. This prompt, is it good or bad?
00:45:40.739 --> 00:45:42.480
I need to decide whether to settle this case
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.559
or take it to trial. Provide a decision -making
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.599
framework based on potential outcomes and pros
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:49.480
and cons. I'm going to give you a lawyer answer.
00:45:49.619 --> 00:45:54.239
It depends. I know, I know. But it really depends
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.780
on how well it knows you and your work. And then
00:45:56.780 --> 00:45:58.679
if you've developed a good relationship and it
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.500
knows your context, like it knows you're a divorce
00:46:00.500 --> 00:46:03.639
lawyer, you might get a different framework than
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:05.460
if you were a breach of contract or personal
00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:09.829
injury focused lawyer. The more it knows you,
00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:13.230
the better this is going to be as a good prompt.
00:46:14.510 --> 00:46:20.710
So the training that you do is essential to make
00:46:20.710 --> 00:46:23.210
this go well. You can use it to help you with
00:46:23.210 --> 00:46:25.510
writing, whether it's client communication, you
00:46:25.510 --> 00:46:27.409
want it friendlier, you want it more understandable
00:46:27.409 --> 00:46:31.619
than legalese. Friendly or formal ain't plain
00:46:31.619 --> 00:46:34.079
English or legalese or client updates. Do you
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.699
want it to be clear or obtuse? articles written
00:46:37.699 --> 00:46:44.119
like for a newsletter or you know These tools
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.280
have improved so much over the last 18 months
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:54.099
I saw early on articles for a staffing firm that
00:46:54.099 --> 00:46:56.239
had been written by AI and I'm like I could not
00:46:56.239 --> 00:47:00.380
even pull out a outline reading that. So these
00:47:00.380 --> 00:47:02.139
tools have gotten so much better that I don't
00:47:02.139 --> 00:47:05.880
run into that as much. I helped two clients hire
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:07.860
paralegals and I was the one that got all the
00:47:07.860 --> 00:47:10.559
resumes and cover letters. So I look at them
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:12.059
all. I was like, this is written by AI. I don't
00:47:12.059 --> 00:47:15.800
even know what you do. Be careful when you're
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:18.280
using it to draft communications that is clear
00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:22.039
and you're looking at it. Any of those things
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:24.219
that are writing is going to be seen by others
00:47:24.219 --> 00:47:28.659
that you definitely need to. verify, look at,
00:47:28.659 --> 00:47:32.760
review. So good or bad prompts. If this is going
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:34.900
in a client letter, draft a letter to a client
00:47:34.900 --> 00:47:36.900
explaining the next steps in their divorce case,
00:47:37.099 --> 00:47:39.159
including the mediation process and the expected
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:41.460
timeline. So if you're a divorce lawyer and you've
00:47:41.460 --> 00:47:42.860
trained the tool, you're probably going to get
00:47:42.860 --> 00:47:44.960
a pretty good draft out of this. If you're new
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.380
to it and you haven't given them context, probably
00:47:47.380 --> 00:47:50.679
going to get a mediocre draft out of it. So again,
00:47:50.940 --> 00:47:53.559
the answer is, for all of these, is it depends.
00:47:54.179 --> 00:47:56.900
So if I'm new to the family law area, it may
00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:59.639
be good to get me started. But this is a huge
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.480
but. You cannot forget that judgment and experience
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.659
are necessary to vet the results. If I'm a new
00:48:05.659 --> 00:48:07.420
lawyer, I don't have that experience. I don't
00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:09.579
have that context. And so I might say, well,
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.300
this is a great start. So it definitely requires
00:48:13.300 --> 00:48:17.869
you and your judgment. These tools play well
00:48:17.869 --> 00:48:20.150
with others. I mentioned I like the speech to
00:48:20.150 --> 00:48:23.530
text. Timers and prompts, those are helpful as
00:48:23.530 --> 00:48:27.329
well. I also use it with Zapier and Otter .ai.
00:48:28.130 --> 00:48:31.090
Okay, let's do the demo. I don't want to run
00:48:31.090 --> 00:48:32.989
out of time to do this because this is the fun
00:48:32.989 --> 00:48:36.849
part. I'm going to stop sharing these. I am going
00:48:36.849 --> 00:48:40.650
to open chat GPT for you and I'm going to share
00:48:40.650 --> 00:48:54.340
this. Okay. Let's share a DVD. Okay. Here is
00:48:54.340 --> 00:48:56.739
the fun part. So I played around with this and
00:48:56.739 --> 00:48:58.719
I just went and I asked it a bunch of things.
00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:08.860
I asked it. Go to the very top. Sorry. I got
00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:10.380
too many windows open and things overlapping.
00:49:10.579 --> 00:49:13.599
Okay. So what I asked it is I have five tasks
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:15.880
today. I have to draft a contract. I have to
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:18.039
respond to three client emails. I got to prepare
00:49:18.039 --> 00:49:20.659
for deposition. I got to review discovery documents
00:49:20.659 --> 00:49:22.780
and I got to write a motion. I have six billable
00:49:22.780 --> 00:49:26.079
hours available. Prioritize these tasks and suggest
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:32.000
a time blocking schedule. Pretty detailed prompt,
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.199
right? So here's how it would prioritized these
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:41.900
for me, and it gave me a schedule. You can see
00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:45.360
draft key arguments. I could never stick to the
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:49.480
schedule, but OK, this was a good try. It may
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:51.679
fit for you, but this is too many things all
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.179
in a row for me. I need to take a break and go
00:49:54.179 --> 00:49:58.059
outside and walk for a minute. Okay, notes that
00:49:58.059 --> 00:50:00.260
the deposition is tomorrow, prepping takes absolute
00:50:00.260 --> 00:50:02.639
priority. So it's getting smarter, right? If
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.480
the motion has a court deadline, move that one
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.199
up in the process. If you finish something early,
00:50:07.300 --> 00:50:09.920
you know, expand the time required for something
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.619
else. So I said for tomorrow, create a time blocking
00:50:12.619 --> 00:50:14.219
schedule because it gave me all these things
00:50:14.219 --> 00:50:19.139
to do, right? And remind me, I need a reminder
00:50:19.139 --> 00:50:20.980
that I got to spend three hours of deep work
00:50:20.980 --> 00:50:24.920
on a contract draft, okay? So then it gave me
00:50:25.420 --> 00:50:27.400
Time block schedule with three hours for deep
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:29.480
work It did it at the beginning of the morning
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.760
and it put in 10 minute breaks because it knows
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:35.340
my power hours It knows me my power hours 50
00:50:35.340 --> 00:50:39.139
minutes on 10 minutes off. Okay So then my little
00:50:39.139 --> 00:50:41.579
break I can go down and get tea I can go to the
00:50:41.579 --> 00:50:45.079
mailbox whatever so it's it knows me so it can
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.949
give me a little bit better information Okay,
00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:51.670
then I said, I worked from nine to 12 on three
00:50:51.670 --> 00:50:53.489
client matters, but I forgot to log my time.
00:50:54.030 --> 00:50:56.210
I responded to client emails, reviewed a contract,
00:50:56.369 --> 00:50:58.550
took a 15 minute call, blah, blah, blah. Okay,
00:50:58.769 --> 00:51:02.710
so then it gave me billable hour breakdown. And
00:51:02.710 --> 00:51:05.590
it made this up based on what I told it. So you
00:51:05.590 --> 00:51:07.869
can decide, is this helpful or not? Does it know
00:51:07.869 --> 00:51:10.309
you well enough to do it? And then it says, hey,
00:51:10.650 --> 00:51:13.070
Do you want to use your billing software format?
00:51:13.110 --> 00:51:15.630
So if you use Clio or Timeslips or MyCase, do
00:51:15.630 --> 00:51:17.190
whatever the prime is. So I said, hey, give me
00:51:17.190 --> 00:51:20.190
some Clio format, please. Put it in Clio format.
00:51:21.130 --> 00:51:25.210
Pretty cool, right? I thought this was really
00:51:25.210 --> 00:51:29.469
helpful. Let me go to a different. OK, I needed
00:51:29.469 --> 00:51:31.969
to draft a byline for that Daily Journal article.
00:51:32.090 --> 00:51:34.809
So I said, OK, use what you know about me. Draft
00:51:34.809 --> 00:51:37.570
me a byline. Here's my article. And it gave me
00:51:37.570 --> 00:51:39.690
a byline. I was like, OK, I don't like that.
00:51:39.730 --> 00:51:42.170
So I iterated on it like five times. Came up
00:51:42.170 --> 00:51:44.429
with something I liked, and then I edited it.
00:51:47.809 --> 00:51:52.309
Let me go to its part. Oh, when it makes suggestions,
00:51:54.309 --> 00:51:57.329
it knows a lot about me. It knows I'm an IP lawyer.
00:51:57.469 --> 00:52:00.710
It knows I'm in house counsel. It knows I work
00:52:00.710 --> 00:52:03.269
with legal professionals and entrepreneurs. It
00:52:03.269 --> 00:52:07.389
knows that I worked at Sega and into it. it gave
00:52:07.389 --> 00:52:10.349
me some suggestions. And I'm like, oh, this is
00:52:10.349 --> 00:52:13.269
option four. That's the angle I'm going for with
00:52:13.269 --> 00:52:15.969
this particular article. So I asked it to expand
00:52:15.969 --> 00:52:18.369
it. Here's what it gave me. No, I don't like
00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:20.769
it. Can you make it into one sentence? So it
00:52:20.769 --> 00:52:23.309
gives you a lot of choice and it gives you a
00:52:23.309 --> 00:52:25.250
lot of suggestions. So you're going to play with
00:52:25.250 --> 00:52:29.230
it and just train it to do what's in your head
00:52:29.230 --> 00:52:31.650
and to do what you do for clients. Let me see.
00:52:31.650 --> 00:52:40.659
I want to do one more example out of here. We
00:52:40.659 --> 00:52:43.760
talked about we talked about all that. Okay.
00:52:47.699 --> 00:52:50.900
I need to hold on just a second. I need to open
00:52:50.900 --> 00:53:02.510
one other document. Okay. What I want to do is
00:53:02.510 --> 00:53:06.150
open some cut and paste text. That's not it.
00:53:06.329 --> 00:53:08.949
Let's see. Give me one second. I'm going to have
00:53:08.949 --> 00:53:14.590
to stop the slides and end that show. Okay. I
00:53:14.590 --> 00:53:16.309
have some queries that I want to put in here
00:53:16.309 --> 00:53:18.389
for you so I can demonstrate what it actually
00:53:18.389 --> 00:53:25.250
does. I have a query that if I say, and I'm going
00:53:25.250 --> 00:53:31.050
to give it a vague Meg prompt. Okay, so let's
00:53:31.050 --> 00:53:34.869
start a new oh Before I go into a specific prompt
00:53:34.869 --> 00:53:38.670
I hit chat GPT. It gives me a blank page. I want
00:53:38.670 --> 00:53:45.909
it to be a Temporary chat where it doesn't keep
00:53:45.909 --> 00:53:50.210
the information. I'm gonna just under file Select
00:53:50.210 --> 00:53:53.230
new temporary chat. So see how it just went black
00:53:53.809 --> 00:53:56.309
Now I know it's not going to save it. Okay, it's
00:53:56.309 --> 00:53:57.949
not going to train their system. I'm going to
00:53:57.949 --> 00:53:59.630
say write me a divorce settlement agreement.
00:54:02.110 --> 00:54:04.349
We're going to get a bunch of crap back. Okay,
00:54:04.349 --> 00:54:08.349
because that's so vague. It's going to give me
00:54:08.349 --> 00:54:11.650
a basic template. There might be usable things
00:54:11.650 --> 00:54:15.070
in here, but it's really going to be vague. Okay,
00:54:15.510 --> 00:54:21.449
so if I want something more useful. Let's see
00:54:21.449 --> 00:54:26.070
how far it went on that. gave me some division
00:54:26.070 --> 00:54:29.050
of property like this is so vague as to like
00:54:29.050 --> 00:54:33.909
is this even helpful for me maybe excuse me maybe
00:54:33.909 --> 00:54:36.449
if i'm a new lawyer like i need i needed this
00:54:36.449 --> 00:54:38.469
place to start and i didn't get a template from
00:54:38.469 --> 00:54:41.489
some other case like that would be helpful so
00:54:41.489 --> 00:54:45.889
let me ask it A little more specific. Draft a
00:54:45.889 --> 00:54:47.949
divorce settlement agreement for a couple divorcing
00:54:47.949 --> 00:54:50.269
in California. Okay, so now we've narrowed the
00:54:50.269 --> 00:54:52.869
universe to California. They have two minor children,
00:54:52.929 --> 00:54:54.630
they have a marital home and they have retirement
00:54:54.630 --> 00:54:57.050
assets. One spouse is seeking primary custody
00:54:57.050 --> 00:54:58.789
and the other one is going to have visitation
00:54:58.789 --> 00:55:01.369
rights. Include provisions for child support
00:55:01.369 --> 00:55:03.469
and asset division. So let's see what that turns
00:55:03.469 --> 00:55:06.530
out. It's hopefully going to be a little better,
00:55:06.550 --> 00:55:09.429
right? It's giving you the context here, California
00:55:09.429 --> 00:55:12.389
family code. Here we go. Marital settlement agreement.
00:55:12.989 --> 00:55:15.289
It's getting a little more detailed, right? It's
00:55:15.289 --> 00:55:17.409
putting in the child's names, all the good stuff
00:55:17.409 --> 00:55:22.269
that ends up in an MSA. You can see how these
00:55:22.269 --> 00:55:26.829
tools get better and better with more instruction,
00:55:27.010 --> 00:55:32.670
right? I gave it more context. So we are like
00:55:32.670 --> 00:55:34.769
four minutes out. I can't even believe how fast
00:55:34.769 --> 00:55:37.489
this went. Let me stop sharing this tool. But
00:55:37.489 --> 00:55:39.989
you can see how much better it's getting, right?
00:55:41.539 --> 00:55:43.800
Okay, let me I want to see what it does at the
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:46.119
very end because usually it'll start making suggestions
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:48.199
Do you want this downloadable as a word PDF?
00:55:48.340 --> 00:55:51.880
So it's making suggestions now Okay, let's go
00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.260
back to the slides really good for automating
00:55:54.260 --> 00:55:56.420
tasks really good for leveraging templates really
00:55:56.420 --> 00:55:59.780
good for streamlining communications but it lacks
00:55:59.780 --> 00:56:04.320
judgment it lacks empathy and It lacks the ability
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.159
for strategic thinking it can only do what it
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:09.679
knows and what it's been trained to do. Okay,
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:14.019
so It can be good for life tasks, generating
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ideas. My first use was whiskey tasting notes
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when I held a whiskey tasting event at my house.
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That was fun. Low impact on that scale, right?
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It wasn't anything that was going to be filed
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with court. So really good for those kind of
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uses. But if you're going to automate things
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and you're going to make templates, you have
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to use your judgment. Empathy. It can make an
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email friendlier, but it's not going to actually
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have empathy as part of the process. Streamlining
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communications. I find that one extremely helpful
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because as an e -discovery lawyer, I put very
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little in email. And if I do, it's one word or
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one sentence replies. And people are like, why
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are you so terse in your emails? It's because
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I don't need it on the front page of the Wall
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Street Journal. So streamlining communications
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to be friendlier, super helpful for me. On the
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lax, it also hallucinates. Remember I said this
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is a generative tool. It makes up stuff. So that's
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what the tool does. So the bias that's built
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into the training tools is going to come out
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in its answers. And then ethical concerns, it's
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going to use what it's trained on. So if you
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haven't turned off the button that says, don't
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use this to train. So under the settings, there's
00:57:17.489 --> 00:57:19.889
a button that says, use this to train. Don't
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have that button turned on. So cautionary notes,
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prompts. I think we covered that. and garbage
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in and garbage out. So remember that part training.
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It's an error process. You're going to have to
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experiment. And then you are going to have to
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use your judgment and you're going to have to
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verify the information and you're going to have
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to verify it again and verify the third time.
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And you have to like take into account all the
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security confidentiality privacy issues, not
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include client names. Did you see any names in
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the stuff there? No, no client names, no client
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details. I use my own details because I wanted
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to help me do my own stuff. So you will be able
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to do this. So key takeaways, it's a powerful
00:57:57.889 --> 00:58:01.550
tool, especially for people with ADHD. So you
00:58:01.550 --> 00:58:03.489
need to train it to take care of your type of
00:58:03.489 --> 00:58:05.730
ADHD and how it shows up in your life. You can
00:58:05.730 --> 00:58:08.070
think of ChatGPT as a silent partner. We've explored
00:58:08.070 --> 00:58:10.150
a lot of different uses. Just know that you are
00:58:10.150 --> 00:58:12.590
going to have to train it for you and you are
00:58:12.590 --> 00:58:15.210
going to have to train it for how it acts. So
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I want to give you the confidence just to go
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out and try these tools. Ping me. I had people
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after the last one I did send me a note and say,
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:23.619
hey, it was terrible for summarizing case law.
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That's why I recommend the legal tool. The further
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:28.539
you go to that crucial side. But I want to give
00:58:28.539 --> 00:58:30.460
you the confidence to go out and try this yourself.
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I think we've answered a lot of the questions.
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And if I didn't get to your question, just ping
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me. And I can answer it afterwards. I want to
00:58:39.820 --> 00:58:42.460
give you two things. I want to give you the opportunity
00:58:42.460 --> 00:58:46.639
for an audit. I usually do a three -session evaluation
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:48.860
or audit of whatever pain points you have and
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how the tools can help you. Use that QR code
00:58:51.820 --> 00:58:54.780
on the left for that. The one on the right is
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really if you need help and you want to schedule
00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:57.739
a meeting with me and you don't know what it
00:58:57.739 --> 00:59:01.219
is, that's the QR code to use for that. These
00:59:01.219 --> 00:59:02.840
are in your materials, so don't freak out when
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I go to the next slide. This is my contact information.
00:59:06.969 --> 00:59:08.849
Connect with me on LinkedIn. I'll help answer
00:59:08.849 --> 00:59:11.130
your questions. Connect with me on Linktree and
00:59:11.130 --> 00:59:13.309
you can, you know, look at my books, whatever
00:59:13.309 --> 00:59:15.489
else you need. My contact information is here
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for you. Sonya? I really, I want to say thanks
00:59:18.869 --> 00:59:21.789
and then I'll stop. So I want to thank, thanks
00:59:21.789 --> 00:59:24.949
to Belinda and Susie and Ala and the Beverly
00:59:24.949 --> 00:59:27.769
Hills Bar Association for having me. And hopefully
00:59:27.769 --> 00:59:29.650
you have all the information you need to contact
00:59:29.650 --> 00:59:31.230
me. And I want to say thank you.