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I'm going to I'm going to say
one more thing about this
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weekend.
I'm going to go full Matt
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Cavender here and I'm going to
call out the haters.
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Let's go.
I said this team is going to get
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there and it might not even be
this year, but this team is
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going to get there.
And I am so fucking vindicated
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by the fact that this team is 8
and two in the second.
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Half 5.
And one against the top of the
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conference and raked opponents
in the second-half.
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Tech Hockey Guide presents the
Chasing McNaughton podcast
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covering the Michigan Tech
Huskies and the CCHA with your
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host Tim Brown, Rob Gilrie and
Matt Cavender.
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Welcome to episode 22 of Season
7 of the Chasing McNaughton
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Podcast, presented by Tech
Hockey Guide and recorded from
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the State of Hockey.
I'm Tim Brown, your host, and
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I'm joined this week by Rob
Gilrie.
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Hey guys, Nathan Seema, what's
up everybody?
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And Matt Cavender.
Well, everyone.
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So for the rest of the podcast,
we'll chat a little bit about
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maybe we'll have some more
opinions on the Augustana Winter
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Carnival series and we'll
preview Lake State and kind of
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talk about maybe where things
are at with the CCHA as a whole.
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I finally got I think all the
ballots in since we've been
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recording, so I get to write
that sometime here.
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Anything else you guys want to
talk?
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About no.
It's a good summer right there.
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You sure?
We'll figure other places to go
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So anyway, we've got or we had
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Winter Carnival.
I know Tyler talked a lot about
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that and how how great it was to
see the team respond in such a
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positive manner to all the the
different moments in that
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series.
You know, falling behind a bunch
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of times, dominating for
stretches and giving up a Shorty
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in the OR not a shorthanded
call, but giving up a breakaway
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but finding a way to respond and
and continue to push.
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And eventually Augustana breaks
down enough and then they get
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wins both nights.
Maybe not in regulation but 5
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out of 6 points is is a hell of
a weekend against the team like
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Augustana even at home.
What were your guys thoughts?
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Maybe that you didn't save with
Tyler or Nathan?
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Any thoughts at all?
Yeah, the biggest thing for me
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is the team, and I mentioned it
a little bit, doesn't feel like
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they're out ever, right?
I mean, steady play and, and
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winning and getting the, you
know, tying goal in the third
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near the end of the third and,
and on Friday night.
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And then it was goal, goal,
goal, goal, goal, goal, goal,
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goal, goal on Saturday night
until we finally got a lead.
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And I was nervous that that that
trend would continue itself, but
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it definitely didn't.
So it's just it's good to see
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them not getting behind far in
games at this point, just
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fighting back, right?
So I'm a big fan of that.
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That's the team that's, you
know, knows how to win kind of
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thing, which is important.
And it was kind of the opposite
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down in Saint Thomas where
they'd get the lead and give it
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up, but they also didn't get
discouraged with that and
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managed to fight through it and
find a way to win that game,
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too.
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I just, I think you know,
especially given, I don't know
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if Tyler touched on this at all,
but given the personnel
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limitations on the weekend, I
think it's by far the strongest
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weekend on our resume.
Like it's I don't think it's
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particularly close at this
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You know, you have a team coming
in here, it's ahead of you, like
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it's ahead of you in the in the
CCHA standings.
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They're on the at large bubble.
Just it's a very, very high
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quality opponent and you play
without Stephen Sardarian the
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whole weekend.
You play with, I think you get,
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you got like what was it 6
minutes of?
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6 minutes at Isaac Gordon, Yeah.
Which also means you're out of
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extra skaters at that point,
right?
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Yeah, you're like, it's and if
it was, it was not 6 pretty
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minutes.
Like you could you could what
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you could go back and watch the
film from that game and go like,
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yeah, he was, he was under the
weather.
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It was not pretty for him.
So I just think for the team to
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be able to respond in the way
that they did to that adversity.
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It's just I, I can't really put
it into words like it's it was
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just incredible to watch, You
know, big shout out to the in
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the three lines that stuck
together from the previous
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couple weekends and they were, I
thought phenomenal both nights,
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you know, up and down the line
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So a little bit iffy for the Max
line on Friday that kind of got
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thrown together just in the
middle of the game, but they
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were they were really good on on
Saturday.
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And huge shout out to Lori Ryman
and Michael Cheecheck.
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Those are Ryman, especially guy
who's not played basically at
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all this year.
Cheechecks been in and out,
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spent a lot of games as the 13th
forward and they you know, their
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number gets called and they they
were ready to go.
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Obviously, Cheecheck scored that
line accounted for.
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Obviously they didn't score all
of them or well, she just scored
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one, but they didn't score all
of them.
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But that line accounted for
three goals on Saturday.
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And it's just, it's kind of
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Just like it's a hodgepodge
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And you know, those were the
guys that stepped up.
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And part of that is, is Max.
I can't, I say it every time I'm
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on here.
I can't say enough good things.
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He is the best and most
important player on this team.
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You know, as Joe Madden had it
in 2016 for the Cubs, that is
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saying about Dexter Fowler, who
was the lead off hitter, which
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is you go, we go.
And I feel like that like Max is
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our table setter is as Max goes
this this team will go.
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And he's been up to the task
this year.
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And he's just been like that.
It was a Herculean effort from
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him on Saturday and a herculean
effort from the whole team the
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whole weekend.
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couldn't be prouder to call
myself, you know, Michigan Tech
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alum and a Michigan Tech fan
with the way that weekend went.
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So true.
It's hard to think of a better
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way for that weekend ago.
I mean, barring getting Friday
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done and regulation, which would
have been an incredibly tall
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ask.
Again, like you said with the
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personnel issues, especially
with Gordo having to go off,
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it's it's just tough to tough to
really pick holes and how they
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handled the weekend like that
was about as as good of a series
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as you could ask for and right
at the correct time just.
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It was very cool.
I'm going to throw it out there,
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too.
At at what point does Jack
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Anderson get serious Conference
Defenseman of the Year
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consideration?
It feels like it's there
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already, right?
Like the?
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National award, Everything
right?
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Yeah.
Like I mean, Evan MERS got the
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get the points and whatever, but
I feel like I don't know.
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I think Anderson's right there
and certainly at the very least
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on like the all conference
teams, probably defense and
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defenseman of the year.
Yeah, that's what I that's what
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I was going to say, is I feel
like a lot of times defensive
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awards can just kind of go to
whichever defenseman has the
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most points, which I feel like
it's kind of a crummy way to
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measure defenseman.
I think if you look at the
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entire body of work, you know,
what goes into that, what kind
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of minutes he's playing, is he
getting penalty killed time?
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Is he really making a solid
impact and taking goals off the
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board for the other team?
And I don't think it's really
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arguable that Anderson deserves
me in that conversation.
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Yeah.
I'm going to say one more thing
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about this weekend.
I'm going to go full Matt
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Cavender here and I'm going to
call out the haters.
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Let's go.
I was told earlier in the season
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that things were not going well
for this program.
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I was told that this was not a
good team.
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I was told that I was an
apologist for thinking this team
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could get there this year.
They were.
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They were right there the whole
first half and they had.
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I told everybody who would
listen.
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They had more room to grow with
this team than anybody in the
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conference aside from maybe
Bowling Green, who's in a very
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similar situation in terms of
the recruiting class makeup and
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all the major junior players and
things like that.
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I said this team is going to get
there and it might not even be
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this year, but this team is
going to get there.
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And I am so fucking vindicated
by the fact that this team is 8
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and two in the second.
Half.
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Five and one against the top of
the conference and raked
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opponents in the second-half.
I told you it was coming and
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nobody listened.
Well, some people listened, but
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a lot of.
People, some of us were with
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you, but there's a lot of people
that have given up on this
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season.
For sure.
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And we're in the McNaughton
race.
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We're kind of on the outskirts
of the bubble for the national
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tournament.
We have a team that is fully
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capable of of running the table
and winning the conference
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tournament and getting into the
national tournament.
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It's who's got I mean, there's a
lot of programs that have it
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better than us realistically,
but year one with a completely
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new staff, all these freshmen
who's got it better than us, not
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many.
I mean, like if you're like, if
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you if you go to Michigan State,
then like, OK, you've got it
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better than us.
But but.
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Yeah, but this is the the way
this season has gone from the
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way it's progressed, you know,
brand new coach, whole bunch of
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guys coming in, young team
putting it all together the
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first half, the way they're
hitting the stride in the
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second-half, you know, obviously
gives me hope for this season.
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But I look even farther than
that.
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If this is what we're looking at
year one with young guys on the
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recruiting front, you know,
biggest thing we have to worry
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about is like a serious Stevens
replacement on the top end.
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I and we were able to get
through one of the toughest
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conference opponents without
him, with the personnel we have.
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I we, we get another recruiting
cycle and and there's some
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exciting stuff in the pipeline.
That's all I'm going to say on
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the podcast.
I I don't see a reason that the
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trajectory doesn't contain to go
up for the team.
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And that's what's really
exciting for me as somebody that
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you know, as I'm sure you guys
and everyone else on this that
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listens to this pod or most
other people that listen to this
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pod, you know, I'm wearing black
and gold, even if the season is
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going to be zero wins.
So it's very nice to.
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Very nice to know that through
direct trajectory for the long
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term seems to be on the up and
up.
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Yeah.
I mean, it's kind of scary like
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the fact that this is year one
and there's so little that
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there's there's so little that
needs to be replaced.
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I think it's Steven and Jack
Anderson and Joe Prouty.
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They they're done.
I mean, it's I'll say that
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they're it's not all public, but
they are they they're good on D.
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I don't know if that needs to be
cut or not, but I feel like I
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feel like saying they're good on
D and not saying any names is
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probably enough to get people to
be like, Oh, gotta TuneIn.
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So I'm good with it personally.
But and then I think, you know,
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they're not going to go without
replacing Steven, realistically.
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It's just a matter of how,
right, Because you because you,
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I think we talked about it
offline a little bit that like
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the possibility remains that
like Elias Johnson might kind of
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fill that role.
And then you look at a center,
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but if you can get a scoring
wing, maybe you keep Johnson
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where he is.
Like, I don't know if you really
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want to, but yeah.
And he's taking such huge
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strides like the last basically
the entire second-half.
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But really the the last month or
so, you kind of felt like.
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I didn't think he was playing
his best hockey to start the
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season and even you go back to
last year, like yeah, CCJ
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freshman of the year and all
that and he was kind of just
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like an he was excelling
basically as an off puck score
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like he wasn't.
Creating like a power play
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specialist in summer.
He wasn't like.
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He wasn't creating a ton for
himself, just he was getting to
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the net and he was cleaning up
and that's, that's great.
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That's a useful player.
But he is like, like I said,
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like the last month or so, these
last like 4 weekends maybe.
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I mean you go back to the
Bemidji weekend at the start of
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the, the start of the
second-half.
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So I guess that's five.
He's really turned it on and you
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can really see him starting to
like dictate, play more and the
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like the place flowing through
him when he's on the ice.
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Which is what we said was kind
of missing from that line.
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Right.
Yeah, yeah.
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And he's, yeah, he's, I don't, I
still don't know that he's like
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would be my ideal player to
like, you know, beat Tate and
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Trinbecki center.
But you know, he's he's really,
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really turned it on and he's
become a very, very important
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player.
And he's again, only a
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sophomore.
Like it's, it's it's kind of
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crazy to think about.
Like if you are, if you're a fan
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of of somebody else in the rest
of the CCHA watching the OR
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listening to this, I'd be pretty
scared, I'm not going to lie.
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Like it's next year's team
should be better.
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It absolutely should be.
I don't think.
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I don't see any reason it
wouldn't.
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It wouldn't be.
Especially since it sounds like
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you've got a good collection of
guys who are gelling another
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year under their belts.
It sounds like we've and.
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You're basically filling holes
instead of.
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Entire lines, right?
That's the thing.
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And like, as much as I know, we
can't talk about what we know
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and what we don't know right now
in terms of who's coming in.
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But suffice it to say that I I
like how this team's going to
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look next year and beyond.
So the Vil McCall there really
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does start with a bang.
I mean, we can, if we wanted to
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throw it all the way back.
I think the general sentiment
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was, you know, not super happy
with the way Joe was let out,
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given what he gave to the
program.
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But also, you take a look at
what was going on in the room
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and what's happened to now as a
result.
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And it's very tough to argue
with where we are versus where
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we've been.
I'm a big fan of what I've been
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seeing.
Yeah.
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And what's what's crazy to think
about is.
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Like obviously in part of like
part of the reason it's been
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like the first half was a little
bit of a struggle for tech.
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Like, you know, they looked like
they were a team that was like a
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fringe home ice team the first
half.
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That's kind of where they were
versus now they're in genuine
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McNaughton conversation.
And you look at all the talent
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that's been added since the
coaching change was made.
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Like we're looking at Trim
Becky, our top 2 defensemen are
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guys that were not supposed to
be on this team.
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And Anderson and Parker,
obviously Joe would have done
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more on D.
He was not even close to
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finishing on D.
But that like that's the Bart
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Escavage in their priority.
That's like this is the level
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that it takes to compete.
And you think about what this
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team would have looked like even
up front with Joe at the helm.
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And then we would have had no
Steven, no Gordon, no Trembeki.
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It's kind of crazy to think that
like as excited as we were about
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major junior recruiting, if Bill
doesn't have this job right now,
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this is probably a 4th or 5th
place team if we're being
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realistic.
Just with what we kind of with
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the way things are going, that's
probably, they're probably like
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more like fifth because they're
they're somewhere between
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Minnesota State, Augustana and
Bemidji and Bowling Green too.
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Obviously it's just I, I, I, I
saw a tweet from a Minnesota fan
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account after they had a really,
really bad weekend at home
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against Ohio State.
And they were like sometime in
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the tweet said sometimes you
don't know how much you need to
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change until the change actually
happens.
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And I'm not going to like, I'm
not going to sit here and tell
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you that Joe did a bad job with
this program because he didn't.
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He's the second winningest coach
in history, multiple tournament
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trips.
He did a lot of very, very good
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things for this program.
But kudos to Suzanne because she
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knew it was time and it was
time.
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And the fact that this is it,
like we're seeing this much
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positivity coming out of this
change tells you that it was
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time.
And it's just I, you know, I
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really, really could not be
happier.
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Lifetime contract for Suzanne I
get Kobeck on.
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The phone.
Blank check whatever she wants.
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Get Bill on the phone.
Blank check for Tyler.
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I'm I'm sure you guys talked
about how he ended up finding
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Fassiano.
You don't have to explain.
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Only blank.
Tell them about the blank check
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you want to begin.
So OK, I'll have to.
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I'll be sure.
I'll be sure to listen to the
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part I was not on.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
I mean, just just the way you
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talk about it, right?
Like Owen Baker is somebody
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who's playing 1015 minutes or
more a night, right?
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Instead, he's the extra skater
and doesn't play at all
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Saturday.
Now, part of that's because the
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what the lines that we had
constructed, I think we're
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playing pretty darn well.
So Bill didn't feel the need to
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go there, right.
But it's like it's so odd to
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just think about like the roles
that I, we think Bill or that
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that Joe had these guys penciled
in for.
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Like we know full well that
Laurie Raymond, Trevor Kukanen
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and and Owen Baker had a much
bigger role in in Joe's plans
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than where they've ended up.
Now, that's not to say that
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they're that they, they don't
deserve opportunities or
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anything like that.
We talked about that with Tyler
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about how much like how good
practices are and how much guys
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like Owen and Lori are pushing
the the rest of this line up to
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make sure that they keep at the
level they're at.
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And that and that's an important
piece too.
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But it is so refreshing to
finally see the fruits of their
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labor coming through because we
know how close.
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Like we talked to Tyler a lot
about the two Mankato games and
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like the way Mankato wanted to
play Friday in down in in
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Mankato.
And then the way that tech
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played for 55 minutes.
And and now we're seeing them
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find a way to like not let a
couple minutes of rough play
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like letting up that breakaway
this last weekend, like affect
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them and they find a way to
fight back or less of those
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things are happening.
It's not compounded.
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We're like the next 4 shifts are
crap while they try and figure
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out how to deal with what just
happened kind of thing.
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Like it.
It is nice to see.
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And I'm honestly, this is one of
the stranger things to me about
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Bemidji is I just did not expect
what has happened to them to
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happen.
Like I thought because they got
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off to a good.
What's that?
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As I was just saying, I don't
know how you can call that
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collapse.
It seems like I mean you.
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You're talking about such a
young team and you're talking
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about Sarah Tori, even though it
happened last year, you like you
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can tell that their CHL guys on
their pro guys like have a skill
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level, right?
Like, so they're, they're not
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like behind the top half of the
CCHA and skill.
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So like the fact that they got
off to a such a good start makes
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it surprising to me that they're
that they're falling back
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instead of continuing to push
further and further.
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And maybe it was just like their
hiccups happened at a different
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part of the season than ours
did.
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And we've kind of, we've had a
more linear growth, excluding
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Air Force and Northern, like our
growth has been more linear than
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a lot of teams.
And where Bemidji has been more
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up and down right where you,
they got off to the good start
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and then they kind of stalled.
And I guess that's all part of
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youth and it, and it can happen
and, and in many different ways.
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But like, I kind of didn't
expect, I didn't expect Bemidji
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to fall off like it did.
I expected them to maybe level
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off, but not regress to the
point that they're clearly, you
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know, 6.
I mean, they can still play
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themselves into something, but
it's not looking great, right?
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Now, yeah, I still would not
want to play them in the first
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round.
I oh, definitely not like the
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but the only team like is there
anybody you really want to play?
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Cuz you're either getting I mean
Ferris and Lake state would be
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I'm not like I wouldn't go into
that series with with many
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doubts with Bemidji.
There's like there's that
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thought in the back of your
mind, like what if they finally
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figure it out this weekend?
Cuz if they do figure it out,
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they are good enough.
It's just, it's just candidate.
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And, and you're right in that
like, I wouldn't like, I
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wouldn't be excited to play Lake
State, especially if if I was on
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the bubble because Brooke
Appleby can steal a game.
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I just don't know if he can
steal 2 right, right.
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So if you're not really on the
bubble anymore, then I'm less
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worried about Lake State because
I feel like ultimately any of
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those top five teams are going
to find a way to beat Lake State
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in the best of three.
I'd hate to see it if Lake State
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found a way to win and then
you've got one Saturday night
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game to try and get to the
championship against them.
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And then obviously like.
You know, depending on who wins
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the relegation battle this
weekend, I I don't really want
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to I don't really want to face
northern from the perspective of
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like their goalie can steal a
game too and they've.
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Been playing.
Right.
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Yeah, the last thing Bill needs
is to end his season on some
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stupid ass game against
Northern, right?
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Yeah, I'm going to send this
meme in the chat because this
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one's been cracking me up.
Because now that we've talked
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about Lake State and that they,
we're hoping that we don't have
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to think about them too much,
you know?
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Yeah.
That's that's one of my favorite
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You know, we go into the zoo.
This is a team that we really
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hope is going to take care of
business.
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The Lakers have shown flashes
that they can make things
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happen.
We've we've already discussed
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Applebee a little bit and how
he's capable of stealing a game.
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You know, part of me is kind of
scared to death that it's going
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to be against us.
But as Nathan said, I think it's
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fair to enter this weekend with
a bit of confidence, especially
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if with Gordo instead of have
had time to rest up.
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But the other side of that is
that these other guys have been
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exposed to whatever junk they
have.
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I would expect that there's a
little bit of an illness that
447
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:30,280
rips through the room.
This might be a series where we
448
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,640
see some.
Well, it did sound like it did
449
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,320
sound like other guys were sick,
so hopefully the other guys like
450
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,600
didn't get as bad, right, Yeah.
We'll see.
451
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,560
So yeah, that's that's a factor
I would expect to be there this
452
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,520
weekend.
But just the fact that I would
453
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280
imagine that Steven Gordo are
probably in the clear probably
454
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,680
makes this a little bit nicer of
a weekend than we'd expect.
455
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,400
That would also not be entirely
surprised to see some kind of
456
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,880
set back.
I'm going to call the suite
457
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,720
because that's what I'm on the
podcast to do.
458
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,840
But I would also exercise some
caution and if we end up
459
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,400
dropping a game, especially
Friday, I wouldn't be entirely
460
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,680
surprised because Lake State
historically for like years and
461
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,880
years, it's been a Good Friday
team.
462
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,240
And if they get a Good Friday,
they usually kind of fall flat
463
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,840
on Saturday after partying at
the bars.
464
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,960
It's just kind of the tradition
that's been with that team for a
465
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,680
while.
So I'm I'm calling this sweet,
466
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,840
but I would not be entirely
shocked to see a loss on Friday.
467
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,520
Final answer.
I think at this point the
468
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600
momentum's rolling.
I'll be even more homery than
469
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,920
Matt, I think.
That's quite a quite a thing to
470
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,520
do there, Rob, I'm going to say.
Yeah, I mean, it's the team's
471
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,600
been rolling.
They're showing they can play.
472
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320
They just come off a huge win
against Augustana, which is, you
473
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,360
know, at the same level in the
standings.
474
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,680
This weekend needs to be two
wins.
475
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,840
I still hope that Lake State
scores one goal both nights,
476
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,200
just because I'll be there and I
want to hear the coolest goal
477
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,000
horn in the NCAA.
Only.
478
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,240
Need to hear it once though I.
Only want I only want to hear it
479
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,040
once per day, so then we're good
to go.
480
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,880
So I suppose I suppose that
makes it less likely that Bardo
481
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,640
leaves early, so I should be OK
with that too.
482
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:20,120
Yeah, I'll also go sweep.
I mean, it's we're rolling
483
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,440
bottom of the conference.
Yeah, it's on the road.
484
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,840
But you know, I just, I feel
like there's been a certain
485
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,000
level of desperation that has
really creeped into this team's
486
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,800
game in a good way since the
Friday game at Saint Thomas.
487
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,800
So these last three games, it's
just they've they've taken
488
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,520
they've really taken it to
another level.
489
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,080
And I feel like now with the
McNaughton on the line, an
490
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,440
outside chance of getting in
that large bit on the line,
491
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,280
there's going to be the right
amount of desperation.
492
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,080
And then in in their game, every
point counts.
493
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960
So I'm going to say I'm sweep
both wins and regulation.
494
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:57,920
And that really, really, really
puts the pressure on Saint
495
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,920
Thomas the following weekend
because they go, they go.
496
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,160
They do still control their own
destiny.
497
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,720
But if we keep winning the
points that we have to, all they
498
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,920
need to do is slip up once and
we're straight back in that
499
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,440
conversation And and Saint
Thomas is idle.
500
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,120
So if tech sweeps this weekend,
they go to four points ahead.
501
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,560
Saint Thomas will have two games
in hand, but they do have August
502
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480
Anna.
So it get like that's at that
503
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,680
point doubt starts.
Decreasing.
504
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,520
I might have to go to those
games route to August.
505
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,320
Yeah, but said you need me to
like FedEx my Auggie shirt for
506
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,400
you to hang out with it and then
you can send it back when it's
507
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,920
done so you don't have to buy.
Me, you'll see.
508
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,440
I might have to, but maybe I'll
just get a press pass for that.
509
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,160
But yeah.
It doesn't, I mean, like it's a,
510
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600
it's a series against Lake State
at the end of the year when
511
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,880
they're not competing for
anything but 7th place.
512
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,480
But, you know, it's, it's a big,
big weekend for tech and I, you
513
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,800
know, I have.
No be no reason to believe that
514
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,200
this group won't approach this
weekend like it's a big, big
515
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520
weekend for them.
So right, they've had their
516
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,200
hiccups to kind of reinforce
that we cannot let up, right?
517
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,800
They've they lost the Air Force,
they lost the northern.
518
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,040
They know that they have to show
up and play 60 minutes to beat
519
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,120
anybody in this conference.
They haven't played Lake State
520
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:10,760
yet this year, but they still
should have like the coaching
521
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,320
staff has these points to point
out and say we cannot let up,
522
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,680
right?
And if we want to get where we
523
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,080
want to be, we have to play a
full 120 minutes this weekend.
524
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,280
So I think that's a very
positive thing to take.
525
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,920
And, you know, like one of the
things Tyler mentioned is just
526
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,400
the the positivity from Bill and
you notice it, you know, even
527
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,800
when Bill's like when the
Huskies are down late.
528
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,640
And you can tell that like the
the body language on the bench
529
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,760
from Bill and the staff is we're
going to get the goal.
530
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,800
Just keep working, right?
And it doesn't always happen.
531
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,040
But you can tell the mentality
is it's not over, right?
532
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,000
Like we're still in this.
Just keep fighting.
533
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,120
The goal will come.
And they have come at times like
534
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:02,240
they did against Augustana.
So it's just nice to see that
535
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,520
that mentality is trickling down
to the to the the whole roster
536
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,080
of like, like the guy like Lori
Ryman takes his opportunity.
537
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,360
Like you got to be ready for
that call because obviously,
538
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,880
like Tyler said, they didn't go
into the week expecting Gordon
539
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,240
and Steven to be out, but that's
what happened.
540
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,800
And you got to be ready for
that.
541
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,680
If you get the opportunity to
play with a guy like Max Koski
542
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,160
Purdy, you got to make the most
out of it.
543
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,920
And they did at least Saturday
when there was a little bit more
544
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,800
of expectation that that's
what's happening.
545
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,960
So I like their chances of
sweeping.
546
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,120
Glad to hear that Matt will be
there.
547
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,000
I know I can't make it.
I know Tyler asked prerecorded
548
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,240
the last time or if I was up in
Houghton, I was like, no, other
549
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,240
people were.
But I haven't gotten to Houghton
550
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,560
in a while, so I'll have to see
if I can.
551
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,880
I told them they need to post
the championship game and I'll
552
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,960
be there.
I don't know, Worst case Ontario
553
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,320
and I'm 25 is around the corner.
We're going to start doing that
554
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,400
at regular times.
So what's that?
555
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,760
And then I'm 25 is around the
corner.
556
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,640
Yeah.
Something that I want to touch
557
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,800
on now that I imagine we're done
with tech talk is we have we get
558
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,360
to watch one of the most
exciting toilet bowl matchups at
559
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,000
the CCHA has seen in a long time
with Ferris and Northern.
560
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,920
The relegation weekend.
The yeah, I mean, for all
561
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,600
intents and purposes, this is
relegation weekend for them,
562
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,920
which I'm, I'm really excited to
see because I feel like if this
563
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,200
is a sweep one or the other that
obviously takes them out, but I
564
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,440
really think it's a it's an even
matchup.
565
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,160
I at the end of the day, I truly
don't hate the makeup of either
566
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,400
team.
It just feels like there's a
567
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,280
little bit more like culture and
development to be had at both
568
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600
teams.
I think this is a fantastic time
569
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,400
for both fairs and Northern to
kind of almost look in the
570
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,960
mirror and like talk about what
kind of team they want to be.
571
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,120
Are they going to be the kind of
like team that's going to scrap
572
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560
their way into the playoffs or
are they going to be a team that
573
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560
and and doesn't keep it going?
And for that reason, I give the
574
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,520
edge to Northern this weekend.
I think with some exceptions, I
575
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,000
think they played, the more
they've been playing, the more
576
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,720
inspired hockey in the
second-half.
577
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:09,600
So I would expect to see, I
think Northern wins one game in
578
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,640
regulation and then loses
another game in overtime.
579
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,360
That's my prediction for
relegation weekend.
580
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000
Well, I was just looking at the.
Standings and I realized that if
581
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,000
Ferris is somehow the one that
sweeps and we sweep Lake State,
582
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,920
Ferris would be one point behind
Lake State.
583
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,760
Lake State would have two games
in hand.
584
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,000
But that's kind of funny to me
that it be that close.
585
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Pretty wild.
Yeah, I don't.
586
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,880
Really expect either side.
To sweep though, I really don't.
587
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,320
Yeah, I think this is A1I.
Think this is 1 where it's a
588
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,120
split, but it's kind of.
I think the more interesting
589
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,000
part is to think about how it
will happen, and that's why I
590
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,600
think Northern regulation win
and.
591
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,960
Then Ferris overtime win.
We should do like a one of those
592
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,680
like watch along things like put
Perry or not Perry, put Harrison
593
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,360
and Evan in a room with the game
on ATV and just live stream it
594
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,400
like all those.
Bear fan reactions to like or
595
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,960
whatever yeah all the videos I
see of like sports fans reacting
596
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,920
to crappy things happening to
their team yeah or I saw that
597
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,280
they did a.
For the Manchester Derby and the
598
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,000
Premier League a few a few weeks
ago, they put like, I think it
599
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,120
was four, it was like 2 United,
maybe it was 6.
600
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,040
So there's three United fans and
three City fans in a box and
601
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,600
they didn't let them talk and.
No, they let them talk.
602
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,000
Throughout the game, but they
didn't let them watch the game
603
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,480
and then like the Sky Sports
panel told them the results of
604
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,320
the game after the game.
So it was like.
605
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,080
I see.
I see the ones that they make
606
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,040
guys sit on the.
Couch in silence like well, I
607
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,720
have three fans I have seen.
Them.
608
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,960
They make them watch it in
silence.
609
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,560
Then you see them, like, running
around celebrating goals without
610
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,960
seeing anything.
It's so funny.
611
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,400
I love those.
Yeah, I.
612
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,400
I think the one way that you get
a sweep this weekend is if
613
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,400
buying Ashton steals a game and
then Northern just wins the
614
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,480
other one.
Yeah, I think that's.
615
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,160
The to me, that's the big
differentiator between the two
616
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,480
teams right now is goaltending.
Ferris has not gotten good
617
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,680
goaltending and Northern has and
we'll see if it plays out where
618
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,880
that, you know, that's going to
be that's going to matter that I
619
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,880
would imagine it does.
And that's why I would, you
620
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,880
know, I would learn more towards
Northern, probably taking more
621
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,960
points out of this weekend, but.
It's crazy because all all the
622
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,960
goalies for for Northern
Michigan have a 900 state
623
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:22,880
percentage or better and all of
the fair state goalies are 881
624
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,960
or worse.
That's putrid.
625
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200
What happened with Mason W?
Did he get hurt?
626
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Noah W You mean Mason?
West is a Hawks prospect.
627
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,480
That's the Edina kid.
That was like, oh, he's a
628
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,360
freshman.
That was.
629
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Oh, there is another Mason.
West, I guess, so the other guy
630
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,240
must have.
Graduated last year, but yeah.
631
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,760
Noah.
Noah.
632
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,600
West graduated OK, that's why
I'm confused.
633
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,680
I just saw W under goalies for
Ferris cuz didn't they have a W
634
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,640
last year?
And they did, yeah, because.
635
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,000
Noah W Trade from Michigan.
Yeah.
636
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Yeah, they basically traded
West.
637
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960
For Was it Stein then went to
Michigan?
638
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,640
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
639
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,760
So what do you think of the
relegation battle, Rob?
640
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,040
That's not really the proper
term.
641
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,320
You know it's perfect.
Term.
642
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,240
It's a perfect term to Atlantic,
yeah.
643
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,480
It's a perfect term for.
Robert Morris Idiot.
644
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,120
I'm.
Excited to see.
645
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,200
It's another, you know, another
game of hockey to watch, right?
646
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240
So, and it's a game that means
something.
647
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280
I love having that one team
goes, one team doesn't go to the
648
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,480
playoffs because it makes the
bottom actually mean something
649
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
to fight for there.
I still like all teams.
650
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Going.
But I must admit, I do see the
651
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,920
vision now.
I like.
652
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,000
I like when.
If you want a tank.
653
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,600
Your season's done well, see,
that's why I almost.
654
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,040
Like how in in a pro sports
setting, I like how the PWHL has
655
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,200
their draft lottery set up where
like as soon as you're out, then
656
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,000
you start accruing points to the
draft.
657
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,120
Whoever has the most points
going into the draft is the one
658
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,840
who gets the 1st overall pick.
Yeah, so if we're talking about,
659
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,120
I like.
That one, no.
660
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
I have not fallen.
So HL is such.
661
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,440
A model.
Of how like pro sports
662
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,800
organizations should be
operating and I can't wait for
663
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,440
them to expand but yeah that's
so in the PHL the.
664
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Day you are eliminated,
mathematically eliminated from
665
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,960
the playoffs.
Every point, like every tie when
666
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,480
you get, you get points, and
whoever has the most points at
667
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,240
the end of the season gets the
top pick.
668
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440
So once you're eliminated, the
goal is to win as much as you
669
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,680
can so that you still have a
reason to try and win instead of
670
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tanking to be the worst.
I wish every sport worked that.
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Way that is such a cool way to
do it.
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I wish and I also, I also wish
the jailbreak was a thing.
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But I also get that it's a
little bit gimmicky for some
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people.
But like if you score a
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shorthand, a goal, you get your
player back.
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But yeah, do you imagine if like
college?
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Hockey had a draft like Landon,
DuPont would be at Northern next
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year.
The draft is such a.
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00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:47,280
Weird thing, yeah.
I don't know, Like I get why we
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have it, but it's such a weird
concept to think about Like
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like, Can you imagine anything
other than sports where like
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somebody drafts you and that's
where you have to go work
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whether you want to be in that
town or not, like.
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Could you?
Imagine any other.
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Job where they're just like
surprised we traded you across
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the nation you get no say in it
pack your shaking out of here
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yeah right.
There's like the I'm going to go
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00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,600
back to soccer again, but
there's like a forget who I
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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,040
think it was unheld.
Di Maria was like, you think he
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00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,239
was like you think you're doing
really well and then you're told
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you might be you might be being
sold to Tottenham.
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00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,000
On the CCHA front, I.
Believe I'm good to go and I
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00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,239
know Rob is looking to get out
of here.
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00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880
Yeah, I got to go cook.
You got to go cook and then you
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00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,400
got to.
Pack because I got to pack
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tomorrow freaking.
Here, my flight's at 4:30
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00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,400
tomorrow, so it's a whole deal
for him over there so.
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00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,760
I got to.
Go stock up a lot of chicken
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with soup before I leave.
All right, so.
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All right, let me hide the
outro.
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We're done.
I think so.
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00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,199
Stop the.
Recording.
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00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,679
What's that that?
Was just a recording that was.
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00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,200
Just a Rob entered the podcast
one time and it was it was the
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one.
Where you were, it was.
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00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,800
Just the three of us and you
were here and he just goes stop
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the recording.
There's one of the ones where we
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00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,800
didn't have any of the outro
stuff at all prepared anyway.
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It was one of the.
Well, the good news is I have
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the.
Outro in the Google doc now so I
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can just send you the link going
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has like I just update the
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