Interview: King Kong Escapes' Linda Miller!

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So I never told anybody I was in the film. I
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mean, I did when I was in acting, but when I
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got out, I never told anybody about it. So I
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had friends here in Virginia 50 years later that
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said, you did what? You were in what? You know?
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So that part of my life, because that's not something
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you go around like, I didn't want to sound like
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I was bragging, you know? Right, right. Like,
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how does that come up? Yeah. Yeah, for a lot
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of us, King Kong comes up every day, but for
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most people, it doesn't really. Hello and welcome
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You're going to crush it. Listeners, give them
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that rad ad. We have Linda Miller on the show
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at Camp Kaiju. Linda Miller, the star of King
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Kong Escapes, the 1967 kaiju pic from Toho Studios.
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This is the sequel to King Kong vs. Godzilla.
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It is directed by Ashiro Honda. Alongside Linda
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Miller, you have actors Akira Takarada, a legend,
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Rhodes Reeson, who just lights up the screen.
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It is a wonderful film led by wonderful people.
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We are so honored and grateful that one of those
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people, Linda, is willing to sit down and chat
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with us about her time on set, about her friendship
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with Takarada and Risen, and what it was like
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to work with Ishiro Honda, the man himself. So
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it's truly, truly such a special episode. We're
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so excited to share it with you. Special thanks
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to Tom Shabilla, the author. friend of the pod
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for making it happen, for joining us himself
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on this conversation. And special thank you to
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our current paying Patreon members, Jason, Chris,
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Sean, Peggy, our anonymous patron, Don, Steffi,
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Jim Chaney, and Ben. Thank you. Thank you. Thank
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you. If you manage to get in any questions or
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comments to Linda, we will read those at the
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end of the episode. If you kind of missed the
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boat on that one, no worries. Just send us what
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you got and I'll be happy to pass along any messages.
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to Linda and read them here on the podcast. So
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thank you to those core Patreon members. Thank
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you to the other Patreon members. Thank you to
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listeners far and wide for tuning in. Give us
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listening to this show. Spread the word. And
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until next time, stay campy. and meets his greatest
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foe, the Kong of Steel. A gargantuan duel, unmatched
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by any battle in history. Thundering 60 -foot
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robot Kong of Steel, creation of the evil Dr.
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Who, criminal genius who stops at nothing. Kong,
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once again, decry... and punches a beautiful
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girl into a world of terror. King Kong Oh, we
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have somebody else. Vincent. Hi. Hi, how are
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you? Good. If you hear funny noises, I've got
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two cats. One wants in and one wants out. What
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do you got to do about that, Linda? Well, the
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one that wants in wants in this area. We don't
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let her in this area. I see. I got to let the
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one who wants out out. I'll be right back. Okay,
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no problem. Hey, Tom, how you doing? Doing great.
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Nice seeing you again. Yeah, you too. Thanks
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for making the time. Glad we could make it work.
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Yeah, no, me too. Hey, Matt. Hey, how's it going?
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Great. Good. Good to see you again, Tom. Nice
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seeing you as well. Linda's wrangling a cat.
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Gotcha. I know how difficult that can be. Maybe
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your cat will make an appearance. It's inevitable.
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He always does. I just watched. Green Slime.
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Oh, my gosh. Right before this. I just watched
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that, too. Yeah, that was crazy, wasn't it? Yeah,
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that was an interesting, interesting shoot. Yeah.
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Care to elaborate a little bit? Well, I wasn't
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even supposed to be part of it. But after King
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Kong Escapes wrapped, my dad being in the service,
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we lived at the base. We lived at a housing area.
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And the housing area was right near Toei Studios.
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And a girlfriend of mine who I don't remember
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who she is that long ago said they were shooting
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a film and there was some English speaking stars
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and let's go check it out. So we just hopped
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in the car and went over. Of course, in those
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days, security was you just went wherever you
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wanted to go. And so we get there and we're on
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the soundstage and we're watching them film and
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we're seeing that, you know, the crazy monsters.
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And I'm thinking, oh, my God, you know, and.
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A director, producer, somebody affiliated with
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the production came up to us and asked if we
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wanted to be in the movie. And I said, sure.
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So that's that's how we got. And that's why I
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don't have a speaking part, because I was never
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originally cast. It was just, you know, oh, there's
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two Americans. So let's put those foreigners
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in our film. I was watching I was looking at
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the things for Green Slime and there was. trailers
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from hell it's directors look at trailers and
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and break them down and stuff like that and john
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landis did green slime and yeah and he was talking
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about it and he said oh the extras were from
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air force bases and embassies and i was like
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oh right that i was probably five six minutes
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drive from i mean i was really really close so
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we just I had nothing to do. I didn't have anything
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booked to do any other film or modeling or anything.
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So we just said, let's just go. Yeah. Wow. John
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Landis, we'll see. See, I had never seen the
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movie. And in 2021 or 22, I went to Bay Area.
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Bob Johnson has a convention there in the Bay
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Area every year. His is a little different. It's
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in an old time theater that has like four or
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five different theaters in one. And they were
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playing the original Godzilla, which I had never
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seen. The King Kong Escapes, which I'd seen and
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Green Slime and some other film I don't remember.
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So when they found out that I had never seen
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the original Godzilla, they made me get up from
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my table and go watch it. And that's when I saw
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Akira. talk about Akira in that film. And he
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looked so young, you know, had he, no, he hadn't.
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Yeah. He had passed already. And then they, when
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they found out I'd never seen green slime, then
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they said, well, you have to see it because we
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have a panel afterwards. So I said, well, it's
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probably a good thing if I see it. So that's
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the first time I saw it. What'd you think? I
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thought the music was fabulous. Yeah. The music,
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the theme song of the green slime makes that
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film, I think. Although, like I said, I just
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watched green slime. I've seen it before, obviously,
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but just right before I watched green slime.
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And better than I remembered. Really? I don't
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know. It had some intrigue. There was some drama.
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Yeah. I don't know. I watched it last night.
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I loved it. Yeah. The old school special effects,
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the sets, the costumes, like it's very enjoyable.
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And you're right about the theme song that just
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encapsulates everything so charming about that
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movie, you know? Well, what's really funny is
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the poster, which is behind me. Fans will say,
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oh, is that you? And I go, no, I wish that were
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me. That was after, you know, Luciana Paluzzi,
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you know? Well, the funny thing is for King Kong
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Escapes, I'm a brunette, naturally light haired,
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and they wanted me to go blonde. So I went blonde
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for King Kong Escapes, hated it. So the minute
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we wrapped, I dyed my hair black. I'm back to
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and it turned out red. So when I get to the set.
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I've got reddish hair instead of blondish hair.
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And so it's like, Oh, she's the stars are redhead.
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So that probably was not a good fit to have,
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you know, somebody else there with red hair.
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And I had, I had a hair piece of my hair was
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longer than it was in King Kong escape. So yeah,
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I'm in the, I'm in the dance scenes, you know,
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the weird dance scenes we did and drinking champagne.
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And I'm in some of the scenes in the. Infirmary.
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I've got a headband. That's right. Bandage. Bandage.
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Thank you. For those dance scenes, did they give
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you a direction? Was it like, this is how people
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are going to dance in the future? Yes, we had
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somebody demonstrate. We all looked at him like,
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are you serious? So part of acting is pretending
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that what you're doing isn't as silly as it can
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be. Those dance scenes, those were choreographed
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dance scenes. Fantastic. Watching especially
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the infirmary scenes, it looked like you and
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all the other gals were having fun. It just looked
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like y 'all got along really well. I don't know
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if that was true, but what do you remember being
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like? What was the set like in the atmosphere?
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What I remember the most is that Richard Jekyll
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was very, very nice and funny. and sociable and
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just one of the guys. And the other two were
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very standoffish. Now, I think Luciana may have
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been a combination of she may be shy and she
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just came off of a Bond film, multi -million
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Bond film to this green slime. And she's probably
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thinking, what the hell happened here? And Richard
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Horton was very, or Robert Horton was very, very
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standoffish. I don't recall him speaking to anybody,
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whereas Richard was just completely the opposite.
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Now, as far as the rest of us, we were all locals.
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We all lived in Japan, you know, military or
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embassy kids. And so even though we didn't know
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each other, there was kind of that feeling that
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we were that group, you know. So we all got along,
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you know. I mean, none of us. Nobody was acting
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like a superstar or anything, but we all got
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along. Yeah. That's awesome. There's supposedly
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Kathy. Oh, Kathy, somebody Kathy. And it starts
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with an H. I can't remember. Supposedly she and
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I were really good friends, but I don't remember
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her. So I've had fans say, oh yeah, I've heard
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you were good friends with Kathy. And, and I've,
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I asked my agent to see if he could look her
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up so I could. Say, were we friends? She says,
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Linda, my best friend. You mentioned, you know,
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I think you talked about it in the interview
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that we did in my book. You know, somebody said,
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you know, you were having a torrid love affair
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with somebody on set, too. The guy that I'm in
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the dance scene with, I found out. 50 years later
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that we had this torrid love affair. I said,
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we did. That's part of it. Yeah. He had, he'd
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been telling people that he and I were an item
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and he had done interviews after the fact saying
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that he and I were an item. And I never, I met
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him on the set and I never went out with him.
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He never even asked me out. I didn't even have
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a chance to reject him, you know. Buddy, you
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got to make a move if you want to. Yeah, yeah.
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So there's lots of stories that, you know, the
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stars of today talk about the tabloids. And I
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can see where people will make things up for
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all kinds of reasons besides just money. But,
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you know, oh, yes, I was with this person and
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that person, you know. You know who I think your
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best romantic lead was? Who? The big guy himself.
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Yeah. Mr. Kong. Yeah. Of course. What was it
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like working with the special effects? I mean,
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obviously it was the actor in the suit, but you
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had to work with these animatronics, it looked
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like, the puppets. Okay. I'm going to really
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disappoint you and tell you I never worked with
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Nakajima -san. Sorry. Interview over, everybody.
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I'm so sorry. I never worked with him one millisecond.
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He never was on my set or soundstage, but I did
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meet him accidentally. Rhodes and Arthur Rankin
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and myself, I don't know if we were in the makeup
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trailer. We were somewhere on the lot and it
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was after shooting because I was in regular clothes
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and we came out and he happened, I think he happened
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to be there. In costume. And it just so happened
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a photographer was there. So they got pictures
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of us meeting. And that was the only time I ever
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met him when I was doing the film. I didn't actually
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meet him as a person till after we started doing
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conventions together. Oh, really? So during filming,
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I never met him. But I did watch his character.
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One day I had some extra time and I went to another
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sound stage and that's where all the special
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effects. It was a scene on the island where King
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Kong, they throw the gas cans down and then the
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helicopters pick him up and fly him away. I watched
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them film that scene and it was like an elevated
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rack of some kind. They had these little trees
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and these little... And if you just scooted down
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a little bit and looked through that lens, it
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looked so realistic. And so I watched them film
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that scene and it was fabulous. But unfortunately,
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we didn't meet on the set, like I say. Oh, and
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as far as the special effects, whenever I'm in
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his hand, I was on a blue screen behind me. The
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soundstage was nothing but big blue screen. And
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they had this gigantic hand and they would. Had
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a little bit of a ladder. They would bring it
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down and then a little bit of a ladder and I'd
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jump into the hand. And the hand was really hard.
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It was metal covered in fake fur. And it was
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very uncomfortable. And then they would lift
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me up and they would tell me what the scene,
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I would know what the scene is and how he wanted
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me to react to whatever was going to be going
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on. And that's how that came about. And I remember
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when I read this script, I never acted. I had
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no. I had no affiliation with films at all other
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than enjoying them. And so I kept thinking, how
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the hell are they ever going to do this? How
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are they going to get this big thing? I just
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couldn't even imagine how they were going to
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do it. Very exciting to me and educational. And
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it was just wow. It was pretty cool. I bet. What
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a break. And how did that even come about? Did
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you just walk on the set? say here I am now or
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did you very close to that yeah okay at the time
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when I got there in 65 I missed my graduation
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party because we got orders to fly dad had gotten
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that he arrived in February and said let me let
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us stay back until I graduated because I graduated
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a year early so but then we got orders that we
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had to be on a plane and San Francisco on the
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day of my graduation. So I miss that. So we get
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there and my dad says, do you remember the little
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girl you lived next door to when we lived in
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France? And I go, yeah, I think I was eight,
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nine and 10 when we lived in France or seven,
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eight, nine. And so she was having a graduation
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party because she graduated. So I went to her
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graduation party and there was a girl there that
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I met. Now I'm five foot and a half inch if I
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stand up straight. And she was like four foot
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11. And she was talking about how she earned
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all this money modeling. And it just intrigued
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me because I looked at her and she was pretty,
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but she wasn't like Twiggy or at that time or
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one of the supermodels. I thought, damn, if she
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can do it, maybe I can do it too. So I picked
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her brain, found out she went to a charm school.
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So I called and I went down to my dad and my
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mom and I went down to the charm school. And
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she was a retired TWA stewardess who lived in
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Japan and opened up this business for all these
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foreigners. Because in Harajuku, it's like central
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Tokyo. And there's a lot of embassies and foreigners
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in that general area. And so she had this term
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because I went to the charm school and I started
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working probably within a couple of weeks of
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being in the charm school. And I learned how
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to put on makeup and do funny things like that.
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And so I started working as a model. And at the
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time that I got the call from Arthur Rankin,
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I had a contract with a local with a weekly like
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a 17 magazine, a young girls magazine for the
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cover. This other girl, other American girl,
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she and I would switch off each week. And then
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sometimes we do the weeks together. And so Arthur
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had seen my photograph, found out I lived in
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Japan. I don't know how he found me because it
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wasn't like I was in the phone, the Tokyo phone
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book, but found me and then called me and said,
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my name's Arthur Rankin from Rankin Bass, which
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meant nothing to me. And he said, I would like
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to talk to you about being in my film. And I
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said, but I'm not an actress. I don't know how
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to act. No, no, we can talk about all that. So
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I was 18 at the time and only child. And so my
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parents were very protective. And my dad being
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in the military was super protective. I was not
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allowed to date any GIs at all. Because he said,
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I used to be one and I'm not letting you go there.
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Sure. I said, OK. So he was he was a captain
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at that time. And the first and second lieutenants
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were in his orb. And so I wasn't allowed to date
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any of them. So we went down there and my or
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when when Arthur called, I talked to my parents
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and they said, yeah, you can go meet him for
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dinner because Tokyo is a really safe place.
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So I met Arthur for dinner and he was telling
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me all about King Kong. I said, are you talking
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about the Fay Wray part? Right. And I said, I
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don't know how to act. I can't, I can't do that.
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And so, you know, we had a little bit discussion
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about it and he was very kind of mellow, whatnot,
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pushy. And we met two, two or three times more.
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And it got to the point where he said, Hey, you
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look like Lieutenant Susan Watson. That's why
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I want you in my film. Not because you know how
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to act, but you look like her. And he says, it's
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not that hard of an acting job. You'll be just
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fine. So I didn't know whether to be flattered
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or upset with him saying, you don't have to act,
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even if you can act. And I kept saying, Arthur,
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I'm going to ruin your film. I don't know what
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I'm doing. But finally, I said, OK, if you want
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to pay me and you're not worried. And you don't
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think I'm going to make a fool out of myself.
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I'll do it. So then my mom got involved. My mother
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should have been an agent. Arthur stepped back
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and now it was in Toho's hands. My contract was
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with Toho, not an American contract, which explains
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a lot of stuff. My contract was Toho. So Toho
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offered me some money. My mom said, no, you're
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not doing it for that. And I'm going, mom. Mom,
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I'm going to be in the movie. And she said, no,
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you're not doing it. And she held out for a long
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time. Good for her. Yeah. And that's why she
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should have been an agent. And so finally, Toho
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said, okay, we'll give you the money. Just get
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your butt down here. So then, you know, I signed
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the contract and got the script and, you know,
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went down for makeup and for costume and all
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that. And it was all so exciting. Until the first
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day of shooting. And then I was terrorized. I
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was so, I was just so out of my element. I was
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almost catatonic, you know, at some point. The
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distant stars. The lonely, helpless earth. The
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21st century. The world of the future. And lurking
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beyond the cold, strange immensity of conquered
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space. Growing and spreading beyond the warped
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imagination of the greatest human intellect.
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Exploding in unspeakable horror. The civilized
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world at war with alien form, whose slimy touch
00:25:07.390 --> 00:25:12.690
means instant, horrible death. Invaders from
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beyond the stars, the Green Slime. Robert Horton.
00:25:22.329 --> 00:25:27.930
Luciana Pellucci. Richard Yankovic. You make
00:25:27.930 --> 00:25:29.869
too many mistakes. You're not right for command.
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This is my command and I'll manage it. Two men
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struggle for survival in the infected remains
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of a diseased universe. Don't ask any questions.
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One woman searches for a last chance to save
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the human race from the desperate hunger of the
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green slime. A battle in space against faceless
00:26:05.819 --> 00:26:12.220
beings. A cosmic nightmare that sends you into
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the incredible, berserk world of... Pounding
00:26:35.150 --> 00:26:37.589
across the motion picture screen comes the most
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terrifying monster of them all. Gamera, the invincible.
00:26:43.390 --> 00:26:46.990
Gamera, the super monster that even the H -bomb
00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:53.190
cannot destroy. Gamera, the invincible. Gamera,
00:26:53.349 --> 00:26:56.829
consuming raw atomic power. Power to destroy
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entire cities. Man's most destructive weapons
00:27:01.660 --> 00:27:05.240
have no effect on Gamera the invincible. The
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:08.160
mightiest nuclear weapons ever devised are powerless
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:13.359
against Gamera the invincible. Is humanity doomed?
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.819
Will the world be destroyed? The United Nations
00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:20.740
is called to emergency session in a last desperate
00:27:20.740 --> 00:27:24.019
effort to save the world. We have one plan that
00:27:24.019 --> 00:27:27.079
we think might work. We have discussed... Plan
00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:30.000
Z with the Japanese authorities, and they agree
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.980
it is the best of our alternative plans. Is that
00:27:33.980 --> 00:27:38.619
correct, sir? That is so. Plan Z is hope of the
00:27:38.619 --> 00:27:46.400
world. A cast of thousands at the mercy of the
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:50.480
most terrifying monster that ever lived. Brian
00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:52.920
Donlevy as General Arnold. The war is beyond
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.789
comprehension. He must be stopped now. Albert
00:27:56.789 --> 00:27:59.970
Decker as the Secretary of Defense. Will Plan
00:27:59.970 --> 00:28:19.789
Z stop Gamera? Gamera, the invincible. Nothing
00:28:19.789 --> 00:28:22.230
the screen has ever shown before can surpass
00:28:22.230 --> 00:28:25.039
the thrills of Ghidra. the three -headed monster.
00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.640
Created from an atomic fireball hurled from outer
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:46.700
space, Ghidra, the three -headed monster, threatens
00:28:46.700 --> 00:30:10.410
man's very existence on Earth. What was that
00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:14.650
like? How did you work through that? Yeah. My
00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:20.829
background is in acting myself. So I get it 100%.
00:30:20.829 --> 00:30:25.769
I signed a contract and I didn't think I could
00:30:25.769 --> 00:30:28.309
get, I didn't want to get out. I wanted to do
00:30:28.309 --> 00:30:30.710
the film. I just didn't want to be in, look like
00:30:30.710 --> 00:30:33.970
an idiot and embarrass myself. Understandable.
00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:38.839
Yeah. And I'm one of those people that. Sometimes
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.960
we'll say yes to something, not having understood
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:46.099
the total ramifications. Also true. Very, very
00:30:46.099 --> 00:30:51.039
guilty. Very guilty. Therefore, I'm very adventuresome
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:52.839
because I don't think, oh my God, this could
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.200
go really bad. So I just gritted my teeth and
00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:01.000
got on the set and thank God for Rhodes' reason.
00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:07.289
Rhodes was loud. He was theatrical. He was a
00:31:07.289 --> 00:31:10.029
little bit obnoxious, but he was very kind with
00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:14.730
me. And it was obvious I didn't know what I was
00:31:14.730 --> 00:31:18.410
doing. And he many times came to my aid and said,
00:31:18.509 --> 00:31:20.329
you know, this is what I would do and this is
00:31:20.329 --> 00:31:24.990
how you do it. And he was very, very, very, very
00:31:24.990 --> 00:31:27.670
kind and very helpful. There were some interviews
00:31:27.670 --> 00:31:29.970
I read of his after the fact that weren't so
00:31:29.970 --> 00:31:33.470
kind to me. But during the filming of it, he
00:31:33.470 --> 00:31:36.910
was a sweetheart. So I just did it. And every
00:31:36.910 --> 00:31:40.450
time I'd come back to my, we didn't have trailers.
00:31:40.490 --> 00:31:43.690
It was like an office building with little rooms.
00:31:43.730 --> 00:31:46.690
I'd come back to my dressing room. And I said
00:31:46.690 --> 00:31:48.650
to my mom, I know they're going to fire me. I
00:31:48.650 --> 00:31:51.710
just know they're going to fire me. And for two
00:31:51.710 --> 00:31:54.670
weeks, I said that. And then after two weeks,
00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:56.630
I thought, well, they sent a lot of money. They're
00:31:56.630 --> 00:32:00.769
probably not going to fire me. But Rhodes told
00:32:00.769 --> 00:32:04.700
me, don't go to dailies. Don't go. that I wanted
00:32:04.700 --> 00:32:07.559
to go. I wanted to see. So I went to dailies
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.019
and I was horrified. There was no music or no
00:32:10.019 --> 00:32:13.500
sound effects. It was just raw. And I went, oh
00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:17.700
my God, this is horrible. And that's why I said
00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:21.440
to my mom, they're going to fire me. But as you
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:26.140
do something, you get different stages of being
00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:29.480
a little bit more relaxed. And so when I started
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.059
to relax, and it wasn't that challenging. The
00:32:33.059 --> 00:32:35.819
very first scene when I'm on the ship and I'm
00:32:35.819 --> 00:32:37.700
walking through and I'm talking about giving
00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:40.880
them castor oil or something like that. And I'm
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:44.200
saluting. That was the very first scene. I felt
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.299
like a wooden soldier walking through. Because
00:32:47.299 --> 00:32:50.099
my background was modeling where it's static.
00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:54.119
You know, you pose and do whatever. And acting
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.079
is fluid, right? As comparison. And I felt like
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.660
I was a tin soldier, you know, just walking through
00:33:00.660 --> 00:33:04.180
the scene. And then when I saw it years and years
00:33:04.180 --> 00:33:07.039
later, I went, that wasn't that bad, you know,
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.259
because in my mind, it was like horrible. It's
00:33:10.259 --> 00:33:13.420
always worse than your mind. Thank God, because
00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:18.000
my mind was in a dark place. And I was like,
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.960
wow, it wasn't that bad, you know. And there's
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.319
one scene that I wish they would have cut out
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:27.220
that I think is horrendous. But so it just, you
00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:30.630
know, bit by bit. I felt a little bit more comfortable
00:33:30.630 --> 00:33:33.690
and Rose would give me little tips. And Rose
00:33:33.690 --> 00:33:37.269
and Takarada got along fabulously. So there was
00:33:37.269 --> 00:33:42.250
a very nice family feeling on the set. So I felt
00:33:42.250 --> 00:33:46.410
safe when I went there and I felt accepted and
00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:50.250
kind of treasured because I was so young and
00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:54.170
I felt like everybody was my big brother. I didn't
00:33:54.170 --> 00:33:57.039
know that Takarada and I had... supposedly a
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.740
love connection until years later when somebody
00:33:59.740 --> 00:34:03.079
told me because my mind never went there i just
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.099
thought you know we're all big brothers you know
00:34:05.099 --> 00:34:10.579
to me so um the i'll i'll echo all all that just
00:34:10.579 --> 00:34:13.480
as a viewer just i watch king kong escapes and
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.679
my my taste in movies like it can be a big extravagant
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.159
monster movie but if there's a sincerity in the
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.039
cast That's what keeps me coming back to it.
00:34:24.139 --> 00:34:28.139
And the three of you, again, I could tell there's
00:34:28.139 --> 00:34:32.880
chemistry between the three of you. And I'm watching
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.099
the movie and I'm picking up on these very subtle
00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:41.699
romantic notes between you and Takarada. But
00:34:41.699 --> 00:34:46.039
yet, the movie never really goes overtly in the
00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:49.800
romantic aspect. So it's also like... You two
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:52.239
care for each other, maybe as siblings would
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:56.699
do. It's just very sweet. And it works for me.
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:58.840
And it's very whole. It's like, yeah, it's just.
00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:01.880
It was very wholesome. Yeah. Yeah. And also,
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.599
too, at that particular time, it wouldn't have
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.400
been appropriate for an interracial thing. Also
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.139
crossed my mind, too. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas today
00:35:11.139 --> 00:35:14.500
it's totally different. So they could kind of
00:35:14.500 --> 00:35:17.760
give you a little drop. Like when I drink wine,
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.980
I don't like wine, but I like water with a drop
00:35:19.980 --> 00:35:22.380
of wine. That's what they were doing to flavor
00:35:22.380 --> 00:35:25.000
the water. And that was kind of like what they
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.460
were doing. And the only time I kind of sensed
00:35:28.460 --> 00:35:31.260
it after I saw the film was when we were in the
00:35:31.260 --> 00:35:33.940
dungeon and it was cold and he was protecting
00:35:33.940 --> 00:35:39.099
me. That's such a sweet scene. And Rhodes is
00:35:39.099 --> 00:35:41.420
doing his thing and he plays the part so well
00:35:41.420 --> 00:35:46.210
of like the gruff protector. Oh, yeah. Almost
00:35:46.210 --> 00:35:48.630
ironically, because you would think, again, just
00:35:48.630 --> 00:35:52.230
as a viewer, the more traditional romantic angle
00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:56.550
would be you and Rhodes. But I like that the
00:35:56.550 --> 00:35:59.250
script doesn't do that. I don't know if that
00:35:59.250 --> 00:36:02.349
was the script or if that was Honda or who was
00:36:02.349 --> 00:36:06.510
making those creative choices. But it's good.
00:36:06.610 --> 00:36:10.030
It's not what you'd expect. You could definitely
00:36:10.030 --> 00:36:16.010
always tell that Rhodes has that. Western background.
00:36:16.409 --> 00:36:22.610
That cowboy role definitely comes through in
00:36:22.610 --> 00:36:26.329
his acting. Well, you know, he wasn't originally
00:36:26.329 --> 00:36:29.250
cast in the part. There was another fellow, when
00:36:29.250 --> 00:36:32.210
I first got cast, there was another fellow, and
00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:35.829
I cannot remember his name, but he was on, he
00:36:35.829 --> 00:36:38.590
did a lot of Westerns or had his own Western
00:36:38.590 --> 00:36:42.590
TV show. He was like a Clint Walker kind of guy.
00:36:43.230 --> 00:36:47.570
and he died he was doing a film he was either
00:36:47.570 --> 00:36:50.630
a part of the film or after when they weren't
00:36:50.630 --> 00:36:54.329
shooting and he drowned in a river and so Rhodes
00:36:54.329 --> 00:36:57.550
was cast at the very last second you know but
00:36:57.550 --> 00:37:01.510
I think he it was very good casting yeah because
00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:04.570
Rhodes was very much in charge and Rhodes Rhodes
00:37:04.570 --> 00:37:08.960
was an actor's actor you know and But he and
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.480
Takarada got along so great. They used to tell
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:15.059
dirty jokes on the set. Now, he spoke no Japanese.
00:37:15.539 --> 00:37:18.360
Takarada spoke no English, but somehow they communicated
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:22.519
in dirty jokes. International language of dirty
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.380
jokes. Yeah. With hand gestures and all kinds
00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:30.940
of stuff. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. When we talked previously,
00:37:31.340 --> 00:37:34.099
just going back to Rhodes, and I just really
00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:39.739
liked the story of... And Rhodes not letting
00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:43.980
you date Richard Dawson, of all people. But he's
00:37:43.980 --> 00:37:46.840
letting you date, Linda. What's going on? No
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.579
wonder I'm still single. No, let me tell you
00:37:51.579 --> 00:37:56.219
that story. My mom was on the set all the time.
00:37:56.340 --> 00:37:59.539
So Rhodes became a family friend. And he said,
00:37:59.579 --> 00:38:01.820
when you come back to the States, look me up.
00:38:01.940 --> 00:38:04.159
I'll get you an agent. I'll get you into acting
00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.289
school. I'll get you started. Because by then
00:38:07.289 --> 00:38:11.349
I had caught the bug and I said, okay, so we
00:38:11.349 --> 00:38:18.230
wrapped in June or July of 68, no 67. And I came
00:38:18.230 --> 00:38:23.309
back to the States in February of 68. So we went
00:38:23.309 --> 00:38:25.610
over to, I can't remember his wife's name at
00:38:25.610 --> 00:38:27.750
the time, but we went over to their house, had
00:38:27.750 --> 00:38:31.750
dinner, my family, his family. My dad was still.
00:38:32.429 --> 00:38:34.869
in the Air Force. So he was up in San Francisco
00:38:34.869 --> 00:38:39.670
area. So my mom was with me down in LA. And so
00:38:39.670 --> 00:38:43.190
I mentioned to Rhodes that Richard Dawson, I
00:38:43.190 --> 00:38:46.030
don't know how I met Richard Dawson, but I met
00:38:46.030 --> 00:38:49.530
him and I thought he was cute and he was very
00:38:49.530 --> 00:38:51.869
charming and I wanted to go out with him. And
00:38:51.869 --> 00:38:54.489
I mentioned to Rhodes and he said, you will not
00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:57.829
go out with that man. Because he was, I was.
00:38:58.349 --> 00:39:00.710
19 or 20 at the time, and he was probably in
00:39:00.710 --> 00:39:03.489
his 30s, which was just big enough of a gap.
00:39:03.590 --> 00:39:08.289
And I was very sheltered. So I was not real worldly
00:39:08.289 --> 00:39:12.190
at the time. And so he absolutely did not want
00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:14.710
me going out. In fact, he would not let me go
00:39:14.710 --> 00:39:20.219
out with, you know, was not my choice. To be
00:39:20.219 --> 00:39:22.079
fair, I wouldn't let you go out with Richard
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:26.000
Dawson. There you go. If that were my child,
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.780
I wouldn't let her go out with him. No matter
00:39:28.780 --> 00:39:31.260
how cute and charming he was. That was part of
00:39:31.260 --> 00:39:36.519
his problem. Yeah. So, yeah, that was funny that
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.820
he did that. And he's the one who got me, took
00:39:39.820 --> 00:39:43.059
me down to Estelle Harmon's acting class on La
00:39:43.059 --> 00:39:47.619
Brea in L .A. And got me involved in acting.
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.760
He's the one that got me an agent. I mean, he
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.579
hooked me up and I had to get it myself. And
00:39:53.579 --> 00:39:56.619
that's when they changed my name from Linda Miller
00:39:56.619 --> 00:40:00.360
to Leslie Michaels. Leslie Michaels. And my three
00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.860
sons? Yes. When I did my three sons, I had my
00:40:03.860 --> 00:40:07.380
SAG card under Leslie Michaels. Because Linda
00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:11.340
Miller is Jackie Gleason's daughter, which I
00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:14.719
didn't know at the time. And guess how many Jackie
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:18.539
Gleason's daughters I loved you in this film
00:40:18.539 --> 00:40:20.119
and that film that I was never in because they
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:23.099
think I'm her. I just sign it and send it back
00:40:23.099 --> 00:40:27.079
to them, you know. Oh, my gosh. Did you have
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.159
any say in that name and the name Leslie Michaels?
00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:31.239
Did you have any kind of say in that or did they
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:33.719
just kind of put it upon you? They kind of said,
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.840
that should be your name. And I said, OK. I was
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:39.679
like, I guess this is how it works in Hollywood.
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.519
I could have gone Linda Joan Miller and it would
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.260
have been fine, but nobody was thinking that
00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:50.179
back then. Because now a lot of people know me
00:40:50.179 --> 00:40:53.539
as Linda Joan Miller because I tend to use the
00:40:53.539 --> 00:40:56.360
full name, you know, when I'm not, when I'm signing,
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:59.340
but legal papers, I use my. Sure. Sure. Yeah.
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.000
Oh yeah. So that's how that all came about. And,
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.389
and I had often thought about, well, After I
00:41:06.389 --> 00:41:09.329
did My Three Sons, not long after that, I decided
00:41:09.329 --> 00:41:12.670
to get out of the business. And so I paused or
00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:16.150
I didn't give up my SAG card, but you can like
00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:20.130
put it in like purgatory or something. And during
00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:23.030
COVID, I contacted them and asked them about,
00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:25.989
can I reinstate it? And what would it cost? Is
00:41:25.989 --> 00:41:28.969
it possible? And can I put it back to my name?
00:41:29.269 --> 00:41:32.050
And that there was nobody working at that time.
00:41:32.070 --> 00:41:34.369
They said, well, well, you know, so I just let
00:41:34.369 --> 00:41:36.969
it drop. I mean, I have no reason for I'm not
00:41:36.969 --> 00:41:40.969
doing films or any, not any SAG films. Right.
00:41:41.289 --> 00:41:45.329
Yeah. Yeah. But you're very busy these days traveling
00:41:45.329 --> 00:41:50.869
and you're doing conventions a lot. Yeah. This
00:41:50.869 --> 00:41:55.570
normally I did three, maybe four a year, but
00:41:55.570 --> 00:41:57.989
then I changed agents. I have to tell you this
00:41:57.989 --> 00:42:02.530
story. January, I was in the hospital. Let me
00:42:02.530 --> 00:42:10.989
back up. 2022, Carl Craig, who is a friend of
00:42:10.989 --> 00:42:12.989
mine who also does conventions. We lived in Japan
00:42:12.989 --> 00:42:16.329
at the same time. He did Gamera as a child. So
00:42:16.329 --> 00:42:18.250
we lived on the same base and we didn't know
00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:20.269
each other because I'm 10 years older. But anyway,
00:42:20.349 --> 00:42:22.289
he and I do conventions sometimes. So we got
00:42:22.289 --> 00:42:25.599
invited to this convention near Philly. That
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.619
was a first time convention, which is always,
00:42:27.659 --> 00:42:29.280
you just never know what you're going to get.
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.280
There might be two people there. There might
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:35.699
be 20 ,000, you know? So, so we go and nobody
00:42:35.699 --> 00:42:39.480
was there. I think I did like $500 the whole
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:43.340
weekend and he did 200. And the guy sitting next
00:42:43.340 --> 00:42:47.900
to me who was in Friday the 13th didn't do even
00:42:47.900 --> 00:42:51.239
$5. That's how bad this place was. But he had
00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:57.239
this agent there, this little. Some people, when
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:58.980
they think of Italian men, they think of big
00:42:58.980 --> 00:43:01.500
men. But a lot of Italian men are these really
00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:05.500
thin, small guys. And he was just, he should
00:43:05.500 --> 00:43:08.320
have been like in Vegas, you know, pricking his
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.360
fingers. He should have hit gold all over. He
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:14.320
didn't. He was much classier than that. just
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.960
liked him because he was, I like odd people,
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.199
you know, and he was just odd, decent, but odd,
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.820
you know? So he and I hit it off and he said,
00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:24.840
we've got to work together. Well, I waited four
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.119
years. I periodically would say, remember me,
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.300
don't forget me. And he'd promptly forget me.
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:34.059
And then four years later, I'm in the hospital.
00:43:34.099 --> 00:43:36.420
I'm on a gurney. I don't know why I've got my
00:43:36.420 --> 00:43:39.460
phone with me. They're down to do some x -rays
00:43:39.460 --> 00:43:43.929
and he calls me. And he says, hey, are you ready
00:43:43.929 --> 00:43:47.769
to work? And I go, yeah, I'm ready. I am in hospital
00:43:47.769 --> 00:43:51.250
gown, laying on, you know, wheeling me into the
00:43:51.250 --> 00:43:55.250
into the X -ray places. And so he's got me eight
00:43:55.250 --> 00:43:58.289
this year, which is more than I've ever done.
00:43:58.469 --> 00:44:02.349
So busy. Yes. Yeah, I've been I had to I had
00:44:02.349 --> 00:44:06.760
to cancel one because my mom got sick. But then
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.840
they have another one. They invited me back.
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.840
And so I'm going this weekend up to Boston. It's
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:14.460
a New Hampshire area to do. So, yeah, I've been
00:44:14.460 --> 00:44:19.500
really busy. And I did two films. I did two.
00:44:19.539 --> 00:44:22.860
I had a part in two films last year. And they
00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:27.519
were like, you know, C minus type. But the one
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.019
guy, I met him and his wife when I was doing
00:44:30.019 --> 00:44:32.599
another convention last year. And he says, I
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:38.030
have a part just for you. And so. I look sweet.
00:44:38.809 --> 00:44:43.170
So he cast me as a mafia's wife, mafia boss's
00:44:43.170 --> 00:44:46.369
wife, who he cheated on me and I put a hit out
00:44:46.369 --> 00:44:49.289
on him. I said, yes, I want to do that. Nobody
00:44:49.289 --> 00:44:56.389
would cast me as that. But then I did not put
00:44:56.389 --> 00:44:58.489
the hit on him. I put it on my attorney instead.
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:04.239
So I did that. And then I, and then I did another
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.199
face right after the same month. It was in September
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.500
last year, a faith -based film, a friend that
00:45:10.500 --> 00:45:13.699
goes, a friend of a friend who goes to my church.
00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:18.500
She was doing a film and I had, she needed an
00:45:18.500 --> 00:45:21.320
elderly aunt because everybody there was in their
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.840
twenties. So I, I said, well, I guess, I guess
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:27.119
that's me. So she needed an elderly aunt. And
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:31.380
so I had a decent, a decent spot in that. And
00:45:31.380 --> 00:45:34.900
then this weekend, I think one of the guys there
00:45:34.900 --> 00:45:38.420
that has actually got me the job for next weekend
00:45:38.420 --> 00:45:41.800
is doing a short film. And he wants Carl and
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:45.019
I both to do it. So, yeah. So life has been very
00:45:45.019 --> 00:45:47.780
good. I'm very blessed. I'm very grateful. You
00:45:47.780 --> 00:45:50.159
know, it's like, you know, you have different
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.579
stages of your life. The first third of my life
00:45:52.579 --> 00:45:58.099
was fun and opportunity and adventure. The second
00:45:58.099 --> 00:46:00.340
third of my life was, okay, now I'm an adult.
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.219
I have responsibilities. And the third phase
00:46:04.219 --> 00:46:06.760
of my life is I get to play again, you know?
00:46:07.019 --> 00:46:10.599
So real, I'm just really happy with all that.
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.400
I know that you, you like with, with conventions
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:18.099
and stuff, you're saying that, that you, you
00:46:18.099 --> 00:46:20.900
didn't for the longest time, you didn't know
00:46:20.900 --> 00:46:24.460
that people were looking for you. People liked
00:46:24.460 --> 00:46:27.460
this movie. I, you know, and I, you know, in.
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.159
In that time, I mean, did you have any inclination
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.559
that people liked this movie? You never saw it
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:43.239
on television or anything like that? No. No.
00:46:44.340 --> 00:46:48.900
No, I didn't. Because when I came back in 68,
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.480
they didn't show it in L .A. that much. But my
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.340
cousins living in Pennsylvania would say, oh,
00:46:55.500 --> 00:46:59.199
New York. holiday they're showing this film you
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:03.039
know and so they videotaped it not video what
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:05.719
is it what it was like recorded it yeah recorded
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.579
it and sent it to me and i thought oh my god
00:47:09.579 --> 00:47:14.500
listen to that voice and i thought i'm not telling
00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:17.599
anybody i'm in this film because that voice is
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.320
so horrible and i felt so embarrassed by it and
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.559
and angry at arthur because in fact Rhodes said
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.820
to me, okay, now, you know, we're going to have
00:47:26.820 --> 00:47:29.460
to dub the whole film all over again. And so
00:47:29.460 --> 00:47:31.380
they'll be calling you and bringing you to the
00:47:31.380 --> 00:47:33.699
States to do it. So I'm waiting for the phone
00:47:33.699 --> 00:47:36.320
call and it never came and I forgot about it.
00:47:36.659 --> 00:47:39.980
And so when I heard the voice, I, it's just like
00:47:39.980 --> 00:47:44.079
all the blood ran out of my face. I felt, I felt
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.380
disrespected to be totally honest. And, and really,
00:47:48.500 --> 00:47:53.519
and I, and, and I felt, was I that? bad of an
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.280
actress, they had to get somebody to dub my voice.
00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:59.260
And so that did a number on me, you know, my
00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:02.380
confidence. And so I never told anybody I was
00:48:02.380 --> 00:48:04.920
in the film. I mean, I did when I was in acting,
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.579
but when I got out, I never told anybody about
00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:11.079
it. So I had friends here in Virginia 50 years
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:15.039
later that said, you did what? You were in what?
00:48:15.420 --> 00:48:18.719
You know, so that part of my life, because that's
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.659
not something you go around like. I didn't want
00:48:21.659 --> 00:48:23.679
to sound like I was bragging, you know? Right,
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.760
right. Like, how does that come up? Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:26.820 --> 00:48:28.880
For a lot of us, King Kong comes up every day.
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:33.559
But for most people, it doesn't really. No, most
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:36.000
people I hang around with don't. All right. Well,
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While Kong is a thinking animal, his brain is
00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:25.179
considerably larger, about ten times the size
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of this gorilla's skull. Being instinctive rivals,
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there is no doubt that they will attempt to destroy
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one another. King Kong versus Godzilla, heading
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:39.360
for their colossal collision. Shattering every
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obstacle that stands between them in the most
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fantastic rampage of annihilation ever recorded
00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:50.420
on film. See King Kong stamp Tokyo into the ground,
00:50:50.659 --> 00:50:56.159
holding a beautiful girl in his grasp. See Godzilla
00:50:56.159 --> 00:51:00.619
destroy an entire army. See King Kong trapped
00:51:00.619 --> 00:51:04.079
by the blazing barrier of a billion volts. But
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nothing, nobody can stop the great showdown.
00:51:07.150 --> 00:51:09.769
when King Kong and Godzilla meet to fight for
00:51:09.769 --> 00:51:43.670
survival of the fittest. Across the centuries
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comes this exciting story of a modern girl cursed
00:51:46.929 --> 00:51:50.510
by an ancient legend. The legend of the cat people.
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Women whose kiss means death. Whose love turns
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them into vicious, snarling beasts of prey. Twice
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I've been followed by something that was not
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human. Something that attempted to take my life.
00:52:08.170 --> 00:52:11.389
I believe that was the cat form of Irena. Why
00:52:11.389 --> 00:52:13.989
should she wish to harm you? Because I'm in love
00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:18.909
with her husband. It's shut, Belle. Just a minute
00:52:18.909 --> 00:52:29.090
ago, it was open. It's locked. Leave us, Verena.
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:46.639
So in 2015, I got a phone call from a guy named
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.699
Brett. And he said, hi, my name is Brett Hominick
00:52:49.699 --> 00:52:54.579
and I live in Japan. And I said, oh my, he called
00:52:54.579 --> 00:52:56.780
me at work. I said, oh my gosh, I used to live
00:52:56.780 --> 00:52:59.519
in Japan too. He goes, I know I've been looking
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.639
for you. And I said, why? And he said, well,
00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:05.260
because you have a fan base. And he said, I've
00:53:05.260 --> 00:53:07.280
been looking for you for about 10 or 15 years.
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.039
I said, but for what? And he said, but you've
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:14.059
got fans. I said, for what? He goes, long escapes.
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And I said, are you serious? I said, I did that
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:24.699
movie 50 years ago, longer now. He said, oh,
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:26.699
no, no. He says, there's a big fan base, and
00:53:26.699 --> 00:53:30.119
they do conventions, and people would love to
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see you there. I almost fell off my chair. I
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bet. And the only reason I listened to him, because
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I'm a... When people are in the business, and
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:43.860
you will understand this, probably all of us
00:53:43.860 --> 00:53:47.239
will, you're leery of, oh, have I got something
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:51.480
good for you, lady? You're leery. And so I listened
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:55.920
to what he said, kind of with my eyes half shut.
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:59.980
And I said, how did you find me? He said, boy,
00:54:00.059 --> 00:54:01.659
you were really hard to find. He said, do you
00:54:01.659 --> 00:54:03.340
know how many Linda Millers there are in the
00:54:03.340 --> 00:54:06.650
United States? I said, yeah, because when I moved
00:54:06.650 --> 00:54:08.670
to L .A., I used to get a call for, are you the
00:54:08.670 --> 00:54:12.010
Linda Miller that's the Playboy Bunny? No. Are
00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:14.710
you the Linda Miller that has the wild parties
00:54:14.710 --> 00:54:18.750
on Huntington Beach? No. So I knew there was
00:54:18.750 --> 00:54:21.489
a ton of us around, and I couldn't get my SAG
00:54:21.489 --> 00:54:23.710
card because there's already another Linda Miller.
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And he said, I was talking to a friend of yours
00:54:28.949 --> 00:54:32.500
who happened to know your middle name. And that's
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how I found you. And I said, who's the friend?
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.739
And he said, Natsuki Yosuke. Well, now, Natsuki
00:54:38.739 --> 00:54:42.260
Yosuke was my first love. I met him doing King
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Kong escapes. And we had a mad love affair. My
00:54:46.340 --> 00:54:50.780
first mad, passionate, you know, crazy love affair.
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And I had always, he was one of the nicest men
00:54:55.019 --> 00:54:57.840
I'd ever met. I'd always held him on a pedestal.
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Even 50 years later, I would think of him thinking.
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.820
Gosh, I wish one day I could see him again. And
00:55:03.820 --> 00:55:07.219
so when he said Natsuki, that legitimized everything.
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So that's when he said, I'd like to write an
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article for GFAN about you since I found you.
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And he said, but you just have to promise you
00:55:17.340 --> 00:55:21.019
won't come out until after the article comes
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out. And I said, come out? Where am I going to
00:55:22.860 --> 00:55:26.519
come out? And I said, okay, I make that promise
00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.130
to you. So right before the article came out,
00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:31.090
I got a call from an agent asking me to go to
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a convention. And I said, I can't. I gave my
00:55:33.989 --> 00:55:36.429
word that I wouldn't come out. So I can't do
00:55:36.429 --> 00:55:39.849
that. I wanted to go so bad, you know, but I
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didn't. And then the article came out. And then
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the rest kind of fell into place. There's a big
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Godzilla convention in Chicago every year. Yeah,
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G -Fest. G -Fest. Have you ever been there? I've
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been there twice. My first convention I did at
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Chiller in New Jersey, October 15th. Then in
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16, we went to Japan. And that's where I met
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Nakajima as a human, as a man. And hooked up
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with Takarada again. And then in 16, I did G
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-Fest. And then I did G -Fest in, this is 26,
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I think, in 24. That's fine. Matt and I were
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there. You want to? Oh, you are? Yeah, 2023,
00:56:24.309 --> 00:56:26.949
I think, right? Is that when we were in? Okay.
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It all goes by so fast. Yeah. It was amazing,
00:56:31.789 --> 00:56:34.369
though. Yeah. I'm going to be back this weekend.
00:56:34.809 --> 00:56:37.909
I guess our ships are crossing in the night,
00:56:37.989 --> 00:56:41.190
but that'd be great one day if we ended up at
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the same convention. That would be awesome. You
00:56:43.550 --> 00:56:48.760
know, GFest is tailor -made for my film. You
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:51.719
know what I'm saying? And so that's my most successful
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:56.559
in terms of money and fun and fans. How do you
00:56:56.559 --> 00:57:03.179
say money? Finance is fun and fans. It is kind
00:57:03.179 --> 00:57:05.000
of, I don't want to say it's my favorite, but
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:06.800
there are aspects of it that are my favorite.
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.039
They treat you really, all the conventions treat
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.400
you really nice, but they go a little overboard.
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:15.409
I got a gorgeous suite. And I was like, wow,
00:57:15.650 --> 00:57:20.309
this is like royalty here. And, and, you know,
00:57:20.309 --> 00:57:24.750
so that's like my genre. And at other conventions,
00:57:24.789 --> 00:57:27.909
they're going to, there's mixed genres. So they're
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not as powerful as this is Kaiju. Right. Right.
00:57:33.289 --> 00:57:36.289
But I did Kaiju Brooklyn. I guess that was 24.
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And that was very successful. I was, I was. Very,
00:57:41.059 --> 00:57:43.360
very surprised, you know, and because it was
00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:46.179
all concentrated, you know, the artists, everybody,
00:57:46.380 --> 00:57:49.519
you know, we were all a big family, the Kaiju
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:53.039
family. And those are my favorite because it's
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:57.940
not watered down with horror and anime and things
00:57:57.940 --> 00:58:01.500
like that. Anime people are crazy anyway. Those
00:58:01.500 --> 00:58:05.579
conventions, that's a different flavor. Yeah.
00:58:05.619 --> 00:58:11.099
In 2018, Carl and I did. galaxy con in richmond
00:58:11.099 --> 00:58:15.460
which had different genres but anime was like
00:58:15.460 --> 00:58:18.340
the biggest draw and we sat right next to him
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and he and i twiddled our thumbs all weekend
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.940
and the lines for the anime were like around
00:58:24.940 --> 00:58:27.800
you know and we just looked at each other says
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.340
well you know we didn't have anything else to
00:58:30.340 --> 00:58:34.059
do this weekend you know that's the that's the
00:58:34.059 --> 00:58:39.110
spirit yeah you know i mean Even if I made $100,
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I wouldn't have made $100 sitting at home and
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I wouldn't have as much fun and I wouldn't have
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met as many people. In fact, the first agent
00:58:48.110 --> 00:58:55.250
I worked with, my little paranoia thing, he emailed
00:58:55.250 --> 00:58:58.730
me and he said, my name is so -and -so and I'd
00:58:58.730 --> 00:59:05.960
really like to work with you. didn't like the
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:10.920
vibe you know I didn't respond so he unbeknownst
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:14.579
to me there was a UPS package or a FedEx package
00:59:14.579 --> 00:59:17.900
on my desk that I never opened for like a month
00:59:17.900 --> 00:59:20.000
and in fact because I thought it was something
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:21.639
else so I thought I'll deal I thought it was
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:23.599
work related that I'll deal with that when I'm
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.900
ready to deal with that so I was ready to deal
00:59:25.900 --> 00:59:27.880
with that I open up and there's a letter from
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:31.030
Takarada encouraging me to work with this guy
00:59:31.030 --> 00:59:34.309
and come to conventions. I went, oh man, I should
00:59:34.309 --> 00:59:36.570
have done this a month ago. So then I emailed
00:59:36.570 --> 00:59:38.929
him back. So I started working with him for a
00:59:38.929 --> 00:59:41.670
while, for a couple of years. And then in January,
00:59:41.690 --> 00:59:44.650
I changed to this other guy that is able to get
00:59:44.650 --> 00:59:47.869
me more work. My first agent's attitude was,
00:59:48.030 --> 00:59:50.750
I don't want to overexpose you by having you
00:59:50.750 --> 00:59:53.730
at too many conventions. Then you're not going
00:59:53.730 --> 00:59:55.409
to make as much money. People are not going to
00:59:55.409 --> 00:59:58.139
be excited to see you. which is true if I were
00:59:58.139 --> 01:00:01.679
20 years old and looking for a career. I said,
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:06.619
Jim, I'm in my late 60s then, I think. I'm 68,
01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:10.300
whatever. I said, I don't care if I'm overexposed
01:00:10.300 --> 01:00:12.900
because I've only got this much time to be exposed.
01:00:13.860 --> 01:00:16.659
And I said, so I want to, and I like working.
01:00:16.820 --> 01:00:19.820
I said, I want to work. Book me wherever you
01:00:19.820 --> 01:00:23.460
can. It's not about the money for me. I mean,
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:25.980
I like the money. It's not about the money. It's
01:00:25.980 --> 01:00:29.139
about the fun and the fans. And there's nothing
01:00:29.139 --> 01:00:32.659
better than having people love on you. You know
01:00:32.659 --> 01:00:37.460
what I'm saying? Yeah. Do you think that if...
01:00:37.460 --> 01:00:42.800
Okay, so let's say you decided to do this 20
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.579
years earlier, let's say. Do you think you would
01:00:45.579 --> 01:00:49.960
have the same reaction to this? Or is it just
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:53.539
now? You know, it was so many years after the
01:00:53.539 --> 01:00:57.840
movie. You were like, OK, I'm here. Yes. Who
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:02.920
knows? I think I would have a lot of what I feel
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:06.900
now because I appreciate things. I'm just one
01:01:06.900 --> 01:01:09.119
of those people that, you know, somebody pays
01:01:09.119 --> 01:01:12.360
for my coffee. I'm standing. I don't go to Starbucks
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:14.440
because they're overpriced. I'm standing in line.
01:01:15.139 --> 01:01:18.500
Sorry. I'm standing. I'm not. I'm in my car and
01:01:18.500 --> 01:01:20.900
in line. Someone pays for my coffee. I appreciate
01:01:20.900 --> 01:01:23.559
that. You know, I like things like that. So I
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:25.639
think I would have an appreciation. But now that
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:30.679
I'm older and at the end, I hate to say that.
01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.940
I'm not at the end of my life. I'm at the ending
01:01:32.940 --> 01:01:36.820
of my life. I really appreciate it. You know,
01:01:36.900 --> 01:01:40.000
I really, really do. Yeah. I remember when Jim
01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:43.719
and I first talked about doing conventions, I
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.340
said what concerns me is, number one, I don't
01:01:46.340 --> 01:01:49.409
look like I used to look. Nobody does 50 years
01:01:49.409 --> 01:01:53.429
later. I'm not that 19 year old ingenue. I've
01:01:53.429 --> 01:01:56.690
gained weight. I just look different. And, and
01:01:56.690 --> 01:01:59.130
he said, he calmed me down. He said, don't worry.
01:01:59.329 --> 01:02:01.630
He says, none of them look like they used to
01:02:01.630 --> 01:02:04.489
either. None of your thing. And he said, so it's
01:02:04.489 --> 01:02:07.469
going to be fine. I said, okay. And then my very
01:02:07.469 --> 01:02:10.050
first convention, I said to my mom, oh my God,
01:02:10.090 --> 01:02:12.750
I hope somebody wants my autograph. I'm going
01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:15.110
to be so embarrassed if nobody asked for my autograph.
01:02:15.659 --> 01:02:19.280
You know, because I had no point of reference
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:22.360
of what to expect. And I was just blown away
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:26.500
at how the fans were excited. You know, it wasn't
01:02:26.500 --> 01:02:30.039
me, Linda Miller. It was Susan Watson, King Kong.
01:02:30.340 --> 01:02:32.699
They were excited for the character, to meet
01:02:32.699 --> 01:02:35.739
the character. And that just blew me away. I
01:02:35.739 --> 01:02:40.079
was like, wow, you know. And so that's, you know,
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:43.340
that's the fun part for me. You know, you know,
01:02:43.380 --> 01:02:45.119
you got to pack and get all your stuff together
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.320
and get on the plane and get there. And, you
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:51.039
know, there's some hassle to it, but it's like
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:55.880
showtime. And it's it's it's it's it's fun. You
01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:58.820
know, even when you answer the same question,
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:04.559
I bet a thousand times, you know, I would never,
01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:07.059
ever say, oh, for God's sakes, that question
01:03:07.059 --> 01:03:10.320
again. What what are some of the common questions
01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:17.610
you'll get? Oh, now you're asking. Do I still
01:03:17.610 --> 01:03:20.469
keep in touch with, well, at the time with Takarada
01:03:20.469 --> 01:03:23.710
or Nakajima or Rhodes? And did I ever meet, you
01:03:23.710 --> 01:03:26.550
know, what was it like with Hamamie and what
01:03:26.550 --> 01:03:30.389
was it like with Honda -san? And, you know, just,
01:03:30.510 --> 01:03:32.530
I mean, they're logical questions that anybody
01:03:32.530 --> 01:03:36.309
would want to know. So I just remind myself that
01:03:36.309 --> 01:03:38.670
I just heard this for the first time. So I'm
01:03:38.670 --> 01:03:40.829
going to answer it like I did for the first time,
01:03:40.889 --> 01:03:45.030
you know. What was it like working with Honda?
01:03:45.469 --> 01:03:52.110
I was going to ask it. I started laughing and
01:03:52.110 --> 01:03:55.449
I didn't hear working with who? Ishiro Honda.
01:03:55.730 --> 01:03:59.610
Oh, Honda's son. Yeah. He was daddy on the set.
01:03:59.789 --> 01:04:07.369
He was in command. Very gentle soul. Very gentle
01:04:07.369 --> 01:04:11.829
man. Soft spoken, never got angry. But he definitely
01:04:11.829 --> 01:04:17.389
was in charge. And he liked to help me act by
01:04:17.389 --> 01:04:19.869
demonstrating how he wanted me to do the scene.
01:04:20.210 --> 01:04:23.210
He would act it out for me. So there's a scene
01:04:23.210 --> 01:04:26.670
where first time I come into contact with Kong
01:04:26.670 --> 01:04:32.130
and Gorsaurus. Yeah, whatever his name is. And
01:04:32.130 --> 01:04:35.429
he puts me in the tree. And I'm supposed to go
01:04:35.429 --> 01:04:40.039
like that. That was exactly what he did. He said,
01:04:40.260 --> 01:04:42.800
I want you to do like that. And I said, okay.
01:04:43.059 --> 01:04:47.059
So I did it. So he was very, he took, he was
01:04:47.059 --> 01:04:51.460
participant. I can't say the word. Yeah. Participant.
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:55.360
Yeah. More hands -on. It sounds like. Very hands
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.219
-on. You knew when you, he liked what you did
01:04:58.219 --> 01:05:00.019
and you knew when he didn't like what you did,
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:04.659
but he never embarrassed you. And he made you
01:05:04.659 --> 01:05:08.719
want to do your best. I wanted, because there's
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.119
so many aspects. I didn't know what I was doing.
01:05:11.300 --> 01:05:14.559
It wasn't competent. I wanted to please him.
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:18.519
And so I really tried my hardest to do what was,
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.239
I thought, expected of me and what he wanted
01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:25.699
of me. And we had a interpreter on the set, translator.
01:05:26.099 --> 01:05:29.300
And his name was Henry Okawa. Because Rhodes
01:05:29.300 --> 01:05:32.260
spoke no Japanese. I spoke Japanese, having lived
01:05:32.260 --> 01:05:35.719
there. But it was conversational. So if it got
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:38.139
in really technical stuff, I didn't understand
01:05:38.139 --> 01:05:44.559
that. So Henry would translate for us. And Honda
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:47.639
just had a way about him. I just really liked
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.719
the man as a man. And the biggest compliment
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:55.360
he paid me was at the end of the film. Because
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:59.639
I lived in Japan. Because I lived in Japan, I
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:06.019
was aware and polite about following the customs
01:06:06.019 --> 01:06:09.860
and the hierarchy. And I kind of knew my place,
01:06:09.940 --> 01:06:13.719
you know, and I was OK. That's where my place
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.920
was. And that's where I would be the most successful
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:20.300
to stay in my lane. And so the biggest compliment
01:06:20.300 --> 01:06:22.780
he paid for me when film had wrapped and we were
01:06:22.780 --> 01:06:26.690
doing the cast photo, cast and crew photo. And
01:06:26.690 --> 01:06:28.969
he was in the very middle. And some other people
01:06:28.969 --> 01:06:30.489
were sitting in. And I was sitting over to the
01:06:30.489 --> 01:06:32.750
side. And he looked at me and goes, Linda -san.
01:06:32.989 --> 01:06:36.030
And that's how we do this. And they do that.
01:06:36.369 --> 01:06:38.969
And he had me sit right next to him. And that
01:06:38.969 --> 01:06:43.789
just made my world. The biggest compliment he
01:06:43.789 --> 01:06:48.070
paid me. And he just was a cool guy. And I didn't
01:06:48.070 --> 01:06:50.829
know who any of these people were. I didn't know
01:06:50.829 --> 01:06:54.269
that he did Godzilla. I was going to ask that,
01:06:54.349 --> 01:06:58.300
too. I didn't know. I was a complete dodo. I
01:06:58.300 --> 01:07:00.639
didn't know anything. I didn't know any, I didn't
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.960
know Takarada had done Godzilla and he could
01:07:02.960 --> 01:07:06.079
sing and dance and he, you know, that he was
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:10.360
a real entertainer. I had no idea. And I knew
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:15.079
Hamamie from James Bond. I knew both, but everybody
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.519
else I didn't know. And I'm so glad I didn't.
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.340
I think I would have been more intimidated. I
01:07:20.340 --> 01:07:22.860
would have naturally. I mean, what I thought
01:07:22.860 --> 01:07:25.909
about was. Now we look back on these films with
01:07:25.909 --> 01:07:29.610
almost a reverence, like they're so much larger
01:07:29.610 --> 01:07:38.389
than life. But in 1967, was the perception different?
01:07:38.489 --> 01:07:40.550
Was it just another job, just another movie?
01:07:40.849 --> 01:07:45.530
You didn't know, sounds like their resume, but
01:07:45.530 --> 01:07:51.530
maybe because it wasn't as renowned, maybe, for
01:07:51.530 --> 01:07:54.050
lack of a better word, as it is now. That makes
01:07:54.050 --> 01:07:59.010
sense. Yeah. I think all those films, yeah, definitely
01:07:59.010 --> 01:08:05.349
got more revered as time went on. You know, just
01:08:05.349 --> 01:08:09.889
kind of based on any interview and talking to
01:08:09.889 --> 01:08:13.900
Linda, you know, it doesn't seem like. People
01:08:13.900 --> 01:08:16.420
were saying, well, we're making a really important
01:08:16.420 --> 01:08:19.840
film. People are looking, you know, people look
01:08:19.840 --> 01:08:22.460
up to these films and waiting for them. You know,
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:25.600
it was a film they obviously took very seriously
01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:31.840
and a film that they cared about. No. Yeah. Did
01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:36.600
they know that we would be on a podcast in 2026
01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:41.779
talking about this? No. Right. No. Yeah, I think
01:08:41.779 --> 01:08:44.460
that's true. Yeah, I don't think any of us knew.
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.779
I mean, Rhodes never ever considered, you know,
01:08:48.819 --> 01:08:50.880
that this would be a film that anybody would
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:55.579
watch, you know. And when I, who was, I guess
01:08:55.579 --> 01:08:58.340
it was, Brett Hominick must have interviewed
01:08:58.340 --> 01:09:02.039
Rhodes. And somebody, maybe it was, who cares,
01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:05.760
somebody I knew had interviewed Rhodes. And he
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:08.680
was surprised that there was so much interest
01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:12.760
in the films. Well, I was just curious, do you,
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:14.779
Linda, do you think there was a time during production
01:09:14.779 --> 01:09:17.359
on King Kong Escapes when you felt, you know,
01:09:17.380 --> 01:09:19.560
you kind of gained a new confidence in your skills
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:21.460
as an actor? And you were like, I know this is
01:09:21.460 --> 01:09:23.619
what I want to do now. Like, I feel more comfortable,
01:09:23.779 --> 01:09:26.380
you know, on set doing this work. Or was it a
01:09:26.380 --> 01:09:28.359
gradual thing? Did it kind of take a little while
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.949
to develop? Oh, it took a little while to develop
01:09:30.949 --> 01:09:33.930
because I was like an iceberg thawing out throughout
01:09:33.930 --> 01:09:38.310
the whole thing. It took a while for that. When
01:09:38.310 --> 01:09:45.270
I was in his hand and I was all by myself, Rhodes
01:09:45.270 --> 01:09:49.829
told me before I went to do those scenes, I said,
01:09:49.949 --> 01:09:55.710
there's nothing there. And he said, well, let
01:09:55.710 --> 01:09:57.550
me give you an example. He said, I had a scene
01:09:57.550 --> 01:10:01.779
with this. woman who had very bad breath. And
01:10:01.779 --> 01:10:04.960
the scene called for me to kiss her. And I did
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:08.520
not want to kiss her. And he said, so what I
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:11.739
did is he says, you just, and I didn't realize
01:10:11.739 --> 01:10:15.359
I have a strong imagination. And he said, you
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.060
just use your imagination. And I imagined her
01:10:18.060 --> 01:10:22.380
face was a rose. not her face. And I kissed that
01:10:22.380 --> 01:10:24.979
rose. And he says, that's what you do. You just
01:10:24.979 --> 01:10:30.039
use your imagination. And so somehow that clicked.
01:10:30.420 --> 01:10:33.939
And so when I was in his hand all by myself and
01:10:33.939 --> 01:10:36.739
they'd say, look over there. And I go, where
01:10:36.739 --> 01:10:40.659
over there? Cause there was nothing more. It
01:10:40.659 --> 01:10:43.399
was like somewhere up in the sky. And this and
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:45.300
this is happening. And I want you to say and
01:10:45.300 --> 01:10:48.859
think and do this. And that really helped me.
01:10:48.899 --> 01:10:52.659
So that felt a little more natural. And then
01:10:52.659 --> 01:10:57.819
I remember him and I talking about crying on
01:10:57.819 --> 01:11:01.699
cue. And it was like a challenge, you know. And
01:11:01.699 --> 01:11:06.020
so we were at Tokyo Tower. And I had this scene
01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:09.569
where. I had been tousled and dropped and rolled
01:11:09.569 --> 01:11:12.869
and all over Tokyo tower. And I'm, I'm on the
01:11:12.869 --> 01:11:16.149
ground and I'm running to him and Tucker Otis.
01:11:16.430 --> 01:11:19.649
And I was able to cry. No one saw it. Cause it
01:11:19.649 --> 01:11:22.609
was, my back was to the camera and I didn't care.
01:11:22.850 --> 01:11:26.250
You know, mission accomplished. I cried, you
01:11:26.250 --> 01:11:29.930
know? And so it was, it was very gradual, but
01:11:29.930 --> 01:11:34.529
I, I, I liked that. I, I think what. made me
01:11:34.529 --> 01:11:39.329
like it was being with the family of actors and
01:11:39.329 --> 01:11:44.430
and the set crews and and the director just all
01:11:44.430 --> 01:11:47.569
of us like we're like a big family you know even
01:11:47.569 --> 01:11:51.189
even you know The guy's sweeping the floor or
01:11:51.189 --> 01:11:53.609
whatever. It was, it was just, we were all in
01:11:53.609 --> 01:11:56.489
it together, you know? And I really liked that
01:11:56.489 --> 01:11:59.250
experience being an only child. I never have,
01:11:59.350 --> 01:12:02.829
you know, my daddy's in the air force. So we're
01:12:02.829 --> 01:12:04.729
moving all the time. So even though I have cousins,
01:12:04.789 --> 01:12:07.409
I adore, I never see him. You know, we don't
01:12:07.409 --> 01:12:10.359
have all these. you know, years and decades of
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:12.399
memories of doing things together because I'm
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:15.140
always off to part of the world or part of the
01:12:15.140 --> 01:12:18.819
United States. So I really liked that feeling.
01:12:19.060 --> 01:12:20.979
Now, it was very different when I came back to
01:12:20.979 --> 01:12:24.600
the States. Very, very different. But at that
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.119
time, and that's, I think, where I got the bug.
01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:31.119
And in modeling, you have a short life because
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:35.760
you're only that young so long. It wasn't like
01:12:35.760 --> 01:12:38.260
I put all this together logically. It just kind
01:12:38.260 --> 01:12:40.420
of organically. I thought, well, you know, my
01:12:40.420 --> 01:12:42.319
career in modeling, you know, in the States,
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:44.899
forget it. I'm too short. I'd have to stay here
01:12:44.899 --> 01:12:47.880
in Japan, which I could have. I had the opportunity
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.840
to stay behind and do some stuff, but I decided
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:54.460
I was too young and I needed to go home with
01:12:54.460 --> 01:12:58.760
my mom and dad. It's fair. Yeah. So I, it just,
01:12:58.859 --> 01:13:03.119
I like that whole feeling, you know, and. Being
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:08.100
a foreigner and a foreign young woman who was
01:13:08.100 --> 01:13:15.020
kind of sheltered, I felt a lot of respect towards
01:13:15.020 --> 01:13:18.180
me in the sense that I was never taken advantage
01:13:18.180 --> 01:13:22.939
of. If I was, I didn't know it. I was never hit
01:13:22.939 --> 01:13:26.899
on. I was treated like somebody's sacred little
01:13:26.899 --> 01:13:29.739
sister. I always felt like the little sister.
01:13:30.140 --> 01:13:33.079
you know? And so I never had any bad experiences.
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:37.319
So for me, in fact, I, this is so weird. I'm
01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:41.060
binge watching on YouTube and I'm binge watching
01:13:41.060 --> 01:13:44.260
a hotel and not hotels, apartments in Tokyo.
01:13:44.779 --> 01:13:47.180
And so all the, I go, well, no, I could never
01:13:47.180 --> 01:13:49.140
live in that one. Oh, I could live in that one.
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.739
And, and, and so I, I don't know if I'm fantasizing
01:13:53.739 --> 01:13:56.140
about moving back to Japan or what, I don't know,
01:13:56.140 --> 01:13:58.739
but I've, you know, so everything Japanese to
01:13:58.739 --> 01:14:03.029
me, I, I, it draws my, my spirit, you know, I
01:14:03.029 --> 01:14:06.590
really love Japan. Formative time of your life.
01:14:06.670 --> 01:14:10.670
And what a, what a crash course in performing
01:14:10.670 --> 01:14:14.550
and acting and filmmaking too. Also in morals,
01:14:14.649 --> 01:14:17.949
also in, you know, all of that you said is true,
01:14:17.989 --> 01:14:21.130
but also in the way that they lived. And, and
01:14:21.130 --> 01:14:25.189
I mean, things that, that we did in the States,
01:14:25.229 --> 01:14:29.520
I would never do in Japan, you know. And I would
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:32.520
never walk the streets at midnight down on the
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:36.479
Ginza after a photo shoot and get on a train
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:41.439
at midnight all by myself, you know, and feel
01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:44.760
perfectly safe, you know. It's just a different
01:14:44.760 --> 01:14:48.539
kind of, they have a respect for, it's different
01:14:48.539 --> 01:14:54.310
and it's not 100 % perfect. And I love America
01:14:54.310 --> 01:14:57.550
and I love my life here. But I'm very capable
01:14:57.550 --> 01:15:02.710
of living a dual life. Very capable. I don't
01:15:02.710 --> 01:15:06.930
know how we got out of that. I'm here for it.
01:15:06.949 --> 01:15:10.750
That's beautiful insight. Was there a big jump
01:15:10.750 --> 01:15:14.329
in direction and things like that? We talked
01:15:14.329 --> 01:15:20.109
about Honda and I mentioned My Three Sons. Was
01:15:20.109 --> 01:15:24.189
there... In terms of direction, in terms of production,
01:15:24.390 --> 01:15:28.630
was there like a big culture shift between? Yep.
01:15:28.729 --> 01:15:33.069
There was for me. Honda, it felt like we were
01:15:33.069 --> 01:15:36.470
part of, well, that's the Japanese mindset. It's
01:15:36.470 --> 01:15:39.770
the group, not the individual. In America, it's
01:15:39.770 --> 01:15:43.090
the individual, not the group. So when I did
01:15:43.090 --> 01:15:46.829
My Three Sons, Fred DeCordova, who did the Johnny
01:15:46.829 --> 01:15:49.609
Carson show, was the director of my episode.
01:15:50.230 --> 01:15:54.649
And it was very matter of fact. It was not personable.
01:15:54.789 --> 01:15:58.130
It was not warm and fuzzy at all. It just was,
01:15:58.170 --> 01:16:00.510
okay, you do this now. All right, let's set up
01:16:00.510 --> 01:16:04.289
this scene. Let's set up. You know, it wasn't
01:16:04.289 --> 01:16:08.390
a bad experience. It just wasn't a fun experience,
01:16:08.689 --> 01:16:12.189
you know? Yeah, yeah. I get that in my own acting
01:16:12.189 --> 01:16:15.449
career a little bit. It's almost like the jobs
01:16:15.449 --> 01:16:18.689
that meant the most to me. were the ones where
01:16:18.689 --> 01:16:22.130
I had that really strong sense of ensemble. Yes.
01:16:22.270 --> 01:16:25.989
Even if they weren't the most high -paying job,
01:16:26.310 --> 01:16:28.810
they were the ones that I still look back on
01:16:28.810 --> 01:16:32.850
the most fondly. Now, I look back fondly on My
01:16:32.850 --> 01:16:35.210
Three Sons for a couple reasons. Number one,
01:16:35.250 --> 01:16:38.409
the way I got the job. I was sent in, and Edmund
01:16:38.409 --> 01:16:43.210
Hartman was the producer, I guess. And I went
01:16:43.210 --> 01:16:46.539
in and sat down and started talking to him. And
01:16:46.539 --> 01:16:50.520
I said, I have a very good friend and her last
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:53.800
name is Hartman. And he said, well, what's her
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.060
name? I said, Linda. And he goes, that's my niece.
01:16:56.579 --> 01:16:58.979
I said, she's my best friend in acting class.
01:16:59.180 --> 01:17:02.140
I said, I was just at her house swimming last
01:17:02.140 --> 01:17:05.140
weekend. And that's why I got the job, I'm sure.
01:17:05.859 --> 01:17:08.340
It didn't help that I knew somebody who knew
01:17:08.340 --> 01:17:11.960
somebody. And I had no idea. And that is what
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:13.600
got me my SAG card. And he said, I'm going to
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:14.680
tell you what I'm going to do for you. I'm going
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.600
to give you this part. It's going to get you
01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:20.000
your SAG card, and I wish you all the best. And
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.739
he treated me very nicely. And so I got my SAG
01:17:24.739 --> 01:17:28.039
card because of that. So I like that. And it's
01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:32.220
so funny. I have told everybody for the entire
01:17:32.220 --> 01:17:35.840
time they've ever asked me, I never met Donnie,
01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:40.640
Don, the main character, the boy. I can't think
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:42.359
of his name off the top of my head either. I
01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:46.439
really like my three sons. Anyway, I wrote a
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:49.220
book about 1966 television and I can't say you're
01:17:49.220 --> 01:17:52.380
the guy. I'm the guy. I can't think of it. Anyway,
01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:55.739
that guy, I told everybody, no, I was just on
01:17:55.739 --> 01:17:57.979
the soundstage doing the telephone scenes and
01:17:57.979 --> 01:18:01.180
that's it. And I knew that that was true. Well,
01:18:01.180 --> 01:18:04.460
I. Had a friend say, hey, you're on Prime on
01:18:04.460 --> 01:18:07.359
My Three Sons. So I watched the episode. I went,
01:18:07.460 --> 01:18:11.119
holy cow. Not only did I meet him, I was outside
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:13.880
in a car with him. And I had completely erased
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:16.840
that from my memory. I did not remember doing
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.880
that at all. I only remember myself, all by myself,
01:18:20.979 --> 01:18:28.279
doing the telephone scenes. That's great. Linda,
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:32.960
I have a couple of questions. from some Patreon
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:36.260
supporters of the podcast. They give a little
01:18:36.260 --> 01:18:39.460
financially each month. And I said, we're going
01:18:39.460 --> 01:18:42.600
to be talking to you and we'd love to relay any
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.739
questions that you all might have. So just a
01:18:45.739 --> 01:18:51.039
couple. And I'll give a shout out to Jim and
01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:55.180
Don. And a couple of these questions are from
01:18:55.180 --> 01:18:59.619
Don. And just like you said, Kind of these common
01:18:59.619 --> 01:19:02.579
questions. So I'm parsing through these. I'll
01:19:02.579 --> 01:19:05.119
be glad to answer them again. I have a whole
01:19:05.119 --> 01:19:08.000
script in my head. Well, how about this one?
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:11.380
Don asks, have you ever watched or have you watched
01:19:11.380 --> 01:19:13.880
other Toho films? And if so, do you have any
01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:21.920
favorites? Yes. And it's Ghidorah, the three
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:25.090
-headed monster, that one. Okay. That's one of
01:19:25.090 --> 01:19:27.270
my things. He has Natsuki Yosuke stars in it,
01:19:27.289 --> 01:19:30.569
and he's the guy I was in love with. So I was
01:19:30.569 --> 01:19:35.350
watching TV, and I was going through all the
01:19:35.350 --> 01:19:38.529
shows, and I went, oh, my God. Because he was
01:19:38.529 --> 01:19:41.609
in it, so I flipped. So I liked that one. Oh,
01:19:41.770 --> 01:19:47.210
shoot. I loved Kurosawa's films because I thought
01:19:47.210 --> 01:19:51.649
Mifune was a specimen of a man like no other.
01:19:52.180 --> 01:19:56.020
You and me both. Just got to say that. Oh, let
01:19:56.020 --> 01:19:58.560
me tell you. I'm sitting at the commissary when
01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:01.859
doing King Kong Escapes. And the commissary door
01:20:01.859 --> 01:20:08.300
opens and in he walks. Literally silence. It
01:20:08.300 --> 01:20:11.420
was like an old EF Hutton commercial, which you're
01:20:11.420 --> 01:20:14.000
too young to even know about, where somebody
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:16.140
would walk in and everybody would stop doing
01:20:16.140 --> 01:20:18.340
whatever they were doing. And it was dead silent.
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:21.560
He walked in. It was dead silence. He was beautiful.
01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:27.079
He almost radiated. I mean, I didn't even think
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:30.399
to go up, which you wouldn't do in Japan anyway,
01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:32.979
to go up and introduce myself and tell him, I
01:20:32.979 --> 01:20:35.479
think you're beautiful. No, I haven't done that.
01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:41.520
But he was more handsome in life than he was
01:20:41.520 --> 01:20:48.670
in the films and very manly and very. Very macho.
01:20:48.930 --> 01:20:51.909
I like that word because I know what it means
01:20:51.909 --> 01:20:54.609
to me. Some women get freaked out by it. I don't
01:20:54.609 --> 01:20:58.770
care. Very macho guy. Gives you chills. He was
01:20:58.770 --> 01:21:01.449
awesome. He came in and got some food and then
01:21:01.449 --> 01:21:06.350
left. Nobody said a word until he left. It was
01:21:06.350 --> 01:21:08.250
like God had walked into the room or something.
01:21:10.189 --> 01:21:15.189
That's incredible. Wow. That was one of the highlights
01:21:15.189 --> 01:21:18.359
of me filming. was Mifune now that I think back
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:21.819
on it. Yeah. So what was the question? I forgot.
01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:26.239
Yeah, other Toho films that might be your favorites.
01:21:26.939 --> 01:21:29.100
I didn't really watch a lot because I worked
01:21:29.100 --> 01:21:32.720
a lot and they were in Japanese. And I didn't
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:36.939
go to the film very often at all. Just the things
01:21:36.939 --> 01:21:41.199
I've seen on TV, Kurosawa's stuff and Natsuki's
01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:44.319
stuff. That's about it. Yeah. I'm so sorry. That
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:48.020
was such a... Those were the most amazing answers
01:21:48.020 --> 01:21:57.319
you could have given. I'm sorry, guys. Was there
01:21:57.319 --> 01:22:00.560
any aspect of your character in King Kong Escapes?
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:04.119
This is, again, from our fan, Dawn. Any aspects
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of the character that you personally identified
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with? Pretty much all of it, because I didn't
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know how else to not identify with it. I played
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myself. Because I didn't know how to do anything
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else. So, except in the bad scene. Are you willing
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to share which one that is? It's okay if not.
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Yes, I'll share it. Okay. Because you've got
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to look it up. It's so bad. You've got to agree
01:22:27.859 --> 01:22:31.460
with me. It's horrible. Okay. It's where we're
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on the submarine and Captain Nelson is talking
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about, you know, we've got to go to Mondo Island
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and get... King Kong. And they do this close
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up of me going, I'll do it. And it is so phony.
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And it is so, I was so uncomfortable. You can
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almost see my skin crawling in the film. It is
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the worst. They could have just cut it out. You
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know, that's, that's the worst to me, the worst
01:23:03.989 --> 01:23:06.689
part of the film. Okay. I'll keep an eye out
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for it. Yeah, please do. Mostly it was like Lyndon
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Miller. in a in a outfit playing a part and only
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Linda Miller can do it because she doesn't know
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how to be anybody else well you were you were
01:23:20.420 --> 01:23:22.600
in a position of authority you were kind of calling
01:23:22.600 --> 01:23:25.800
the shots a little bit where well I can do that
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in life you know especially if it's in the script
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you know yeah no I mean I I'm I'm shy at first
01:23:34.060 --> 01:23:37.619
it's back then shy at first and then once I get
01:23:37.619 --> 01:23:40.520
comfortable then I'm I'm kind of outgoing you
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:45.449
know And so and also, too, I had the two guys
01:23:45.449 --> 01:23:48.750
that I really related to and I liked and they
01:23:48.750 --> 01:23:52.390
liked me. And and so it just kind of flowed,
01:23:52.390 --> 01:23:56.409
you know. Yeah. So I hope you liked I hope you
01:23:56.409 --> 01:24:00.029
liked her personality because that is. That's
01:24:00.029 --> 01:24:03.050
you. That's me. OK, last thing. Last question
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or comment. This is from Jim out there. Less
01:24:06.729 --> 01:24:09.619
of a question because. You've answered in the
01:24:09.619 --> 01:24:11.840
midst of our conversation. So anyways, Jim wants
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to just leave a comment about the green slime.
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He says, it is a sight to behold. It's ridiculous,
01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:21.380
but it's ridiculous on a grand stage. The sets
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are monumental. The storytelling is clearly legit.
01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:28.279
The overacting is delightful, cheesy at its finest.
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And then he goes on to compare it to the movie
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:35.960
Alien and sees a lot of similarities in that.
01:24:37.080 --> 01:24:41.140
Well, let me tell you, when my girlfriend and
01:24:41.140 --> 01:24:43.460
I were on the set just watching him, we came
01:24:43.460 --> 01:24:46.899
when they were doing the hallway. And we looked
01:24:46.899 --> 01:24:48.520
at each other and said, oh, this can't be for
01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:52.720
real. And they were little kids in uniform and
01:24:52.720 --> 01:24:57.460
in these costumes. And it was so ridiculous that
01:24:57.460 --> 01:25:01.220
it was entertaining. And yeah, so everything
01:25:01.220 --> 01:25:05.520
he said was accurate. But as far as Alien. I
01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:08.640
went and saw alien. And when that guy, when that
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.479
alien popped out of his stomach, I almost threw
01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:14.800
up. I got up out of the theater and I left because
01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.260
I thought I can't take any more of that. I wasn't
01:25:18.260 --> 01:25:21.779
making that stuff. No, it freaked me out so bad.
01:25:22.260 --> 01:25:26.020
I just, it shocked me. The shock value of that
01:25:26.020 --> 01:25:30.000
was, was so, so awful. And then another shock
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value when I was doing, there's like my. third
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:38.539
convention in Cleveland, Ohio. And they had me
01:25:38.539 --> 01:25:42.260
sitting next to a filmmaker who did slasher movies.
01:25:43.020 --> 01:25:46.840
And he had his little, I guess, computer laptop.
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:50.520
And all day long, I listened to girls scream
01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:55.380
as they got murdered. And I don't like those
01:25:55.380 --> 01:25:57.920
kinds of films. And I had to sit next to it and
01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.920
kind of try to tune it out. And one time I got
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.850
up and I said, do you really like making these
01:26:03.850 --> 01:26:06.069
movies? He goes, yeah, I really like it. I really
01:26:06.069 --> 01:26:12.890
like it. And I'm like, okay. So that's why Nightmare
01:26:12.890 --> 01:26:16.350
on Elm Street or Friday the 13th, I can't go
01:26:16.350 --> 01:26:20.229
see those kind. I don't want to see you slashing.
01:26:20.250 --> 01:26:22.949
You can slash and I can know you slash. I just
01:26:22.949 --> 01:26:26.239
don't want to see it. I don't. Yeah. Yeah. Remember
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.859
the movie Cat People? Do you guys remember that
01:26:28.859 --> 01:26:30.859
movie at all? Oh, yeah. I love that movie. You
01:26:30.859 --> 01:26:34.600
never saw the cat, but you always saw the shadow
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:37.859
or something. I thought that was an awesome,
01:26:37.899 --> 01:26:41.460
awesome film for that aspect of it. The power
01:26:41.460 --> 01:26:44.300
of suggestion. Yes. That's why the sex scenes.
01:26:44.380 --> 01:26:46.479
I don't like it when they show full -on sex,
01:26:46.539 --> 01:26:48.590
but when you... think they're going to do something
01:26:48.590 --> 01:26:50.609
and they're doing something and you can't see
01:26:50.609 --> 01:26:53.489
it that sexier than a guy and a girl banging
01:26:53.489 --> 01:26:55.609
each other. You know what I mean? I'm sorry.
01:26:55.789 --> 01:26:59.149
What time is it? Yeah. No, I forget you're on
01:26:59.149 --> 01:27:01.250
the East Coast. It's all right. I'm giving myself
01:27:01.250 --> 01:27:06.609
an out here. Totally. Our fans of the podcast,
01:27:06.869 --> 01:27:08.989
they've written in, they knew we were going to
01:27:08.989 --> 01:27:10.949
have this conversation. They just really are
01:27:10.949 --> 01:27:14.189
expressing their gratitude for your legacy, the
01:27:14.189 --> 01:27:17.130
mark you've left on. this genre we all love.
01:27:17.229 --> 01:27:22.470
And, and I would echo that. And I, I really just
01:27:22.470 --> 01:27:25.949
thank you so much for this time and this conversation
01:27:25.949 --> 01:27:30.189
and just chatting about things. We all, we all
01:27:30.189 --> 01:27:33.470
care about so much, really. And that's why I,
01:27:33.470 --> 01:27:36.390
I, I like doing it, you know what I'm saying?
01:27:36.489 --> 01:27:40.649
And, and I've said many, many times as much as
01:27:40.649 --> 01:27:43.949
the fans get from me being there. I equally get
01:27:43.949 --> 01:27:46.810
that much from the fans from being there. And
01:27:46.810 --> 01:27:51.329
I'm not just saying that. That's what keeps me
01:27:51.329 --> 01:27:54.489
going, you know. And especially as the older
01:27:54.489 --> 01:27:58.289
I get and I'm looking at 80 pretty soon and I'm
01:27:58.289 --> 01:28:00.670
thinking, you know, when am I going to quit?
01:28:00.729 --> 01:28:01.909
And I'm thinking, I'm probably never going to
01:28:01.909 --> 01:28:03.770
quit. I'm probably going to say, oh, she was
01:28:03.770 --> 01:28:05.789
scheduled to be here, but she died. You know
01:28:05.789 --> 01:28:10.659
what I'm saying? And not for a long time. yes
01:28:10.659 --> 01:28:15.000
80 is the new 40 I think I think so yeah I mean
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:20.159
I've been anyway yeah 80 is the new 40 you don't
01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:24.939
need us to say keep going but yeah and even if
01:28:24.939 --> 01:28:26.760
you didn't say it I would probably still keep
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:31.380
going because I enjoy it so much you know it's
01:28:31.380 --> 01:28:33.520
like I have my real life And then I have this
01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:35.460
little bit of a fantasy life over here. And,
01:28:35.460 --> 01:28:38.680
you know, having a real life all the time can
01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:41.619
get boring. So this is like a little bit of sugar
01:28:41.619 --> 01:28:44.920
on my cereal, you know. Good way to think about
01:28:44.920 --> 01:28:48.479
it. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Well, I'll be thinking
01:28:48.479 --> 01:28:50.319
about you when I'm hitting the convention this
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:53.739
weekend at G -Fest. Have a wonderful time. You
01:28:53.739 --> 01:28:56.600
have a blast at your next event and all your
01:28:56.600 --> 01:28:58.560
events coming up. All right. Thank you so much.
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:01.149
I don't want to hog the goodbyes, but... I hope
01:29:01.149 --> 01:29:04.810
to stay in touch. Anytime. You've got all my
01:29:04.810 --> 01:29:08.029
info. Yeah, likewise. Thank you, Linda. You're
01:29:08.029 --> 01:29:10.289
welcome. Thanks so much, Vincent. Thank you,
01:29:10.289 --> 01:29:12.390
Linda. This has been such a pleasure. Great to
01:29:12.390 --> 01:29:15.229
talk to you. Guys, thanks for having me on. Thank
01:29:15.229 --> 01:29:18.729
you, Tom. Tom, thank you for being the bridge.
01:29:19.560 --> 01:29:24.199
Yeah, Tom, you started all this. But I can't.
01:29:24.699 --> 01:29:27.800
Linda, you've always been great, so thank you.
01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:30.659
Thank you so much. I enjoyed meeting and talking
01:29:30.659 --> 01:29:34.960
to all you guys. Likewise. Have a great evening.
01:29:35.039 --> 01:29:38.279
Have fun at GFest. Thank you. And I like your
01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:40.479
cat, by the way. Thanks. He had to join at the
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:42.279
very end here. I was about to say, there he is.
01:29:44.159 --> 01:29:47.319
Inevitable. It was nice to meet you again, Linda.
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:49.369
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My broker says that with two children to put
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through college, I should start investing in
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my broker's E .F. Hutton. And E .F. Hutton says...
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