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>> Peterson Toscano: I'm Peterson Toscano, and this is Bubble and
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Squeak, a podcast with uncanny sounds, funny
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interludes and stories. Most weird, many true.
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Okay, here's season four, episode ten. Our show
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today comes in three parts. Part one, a sound
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slice from a, uh, Lenape powwow. Part two, a
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librarian in England stood up to Margaret
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Thatcher. And part three, a song about rebel
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women.
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Let me set the scene for you. I'm in Mauch Chunk Lake
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Park in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania, USA. The town
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is named after the famous Native American super
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athlete Jim Thorpe. Now, Thorpe never lived
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in the town; he wasn't born here either. In fact,
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he never once set foot on the land. Jim Thorpe was
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born in 1887 on the Sac and Fox reservation in
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Indian Territory, today called Oklahoma. His
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ancestors were Sac and Fox, Citizen Potawatomi,
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and Kickapoo people who lived in the Great Lakes
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and Midwest regions for generations. That changed
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when the US government forcibly removed them
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throughout the 19th century. Jim Thorpe was a
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child when his mother died. His father sent the
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grieving boy to the Carlisle Indian Boarding
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School in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, 1800 kilometers
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from home. His father wanted his son to learn a
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trade, and the Bureau of Indian Affairs promised
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bright futures for Native children who attended
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its special schools. Once on site, teachers
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forbade Thorpe and the other students from speaking
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their mother tongue, wearing traditional clothing,
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or performing any cultural or religious
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ceremonies. Many students suffered and died in
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these government institutions that were designed
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to transform Native children into English-
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speaking, Christian, assimilated American
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residents, but not citizens. Citizenship did not
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come to most Native Americans until the 1924
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Indian Citizenship Act. Unlike many of his peers,
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Thorpe excelled at Carlisle Indian Boarding
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School, especially at sports. He went on to have
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an extraordinary career in college football and
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then Major League Baseball.
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In the 1912 Summer Olympics in Stockholm, Sweden,
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Jim Thorpe won two gold medals in the pentathlon
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and the decathlon. He later became the first
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president of the American Professional Football
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Association, which later became the NFL. After Jim
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Thorpe's death in 1953, State of Oklahoma
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officials refused to erect a memorial for one of
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their most celebrated people. Thorpe's widow,
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seeking a suitable resting place for him, struck
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an agreement with the struggling Pennsylvania
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towns of Mauch Chunk and East Mauch Chunk. The towns
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combined and renamed themselves Jim Thorpe. They
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also agreed to build and maintain a mausoleum and
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memorial park dedicated to Thorpe, which you can
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see today. Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania, a tourist
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destination high in the mountains with dozens of
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restaurants, hotels, and guest houses, plus live
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music and outdoor activities.
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I didn't go to Jim Thorpe to see the massive red
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granite mausoleum inscribed with King Gustaf V of
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Sweden's famous words from the 1912 Olympics:
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"Sir, you are the greatest athlete in the
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world."
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>> Speaker B: End quote.
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>> Peterson Toscano: No. I went with my partner Glen Retief to the
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Lenape Nation of Pennsylvania's annual powwow in
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Mauch Chunk Lake Park. The powwow begins with drums
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and voices as flags lead the procession. They're
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followed by the clan mothers of the Wolf, Turtle,
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and Turkey clans. Then respected elders enter the
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circle and then the feathered dancers. As the
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singing quiets, the cameras are put away and the
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Chief of the Unami clan steps forward to speak in
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his native tongue and in English. He offers a
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prayer of thanksgiving to the four directions, to
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Mother Earth and to every living creature. He
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specifically names the winged ones, four-leggeds,
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two-leggeds, many-leggeds, creepy crawlers, fish,
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trees, stones and medicinal herbs. To this day,
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the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania does not
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officially recognize the Lenape or any Native
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American tribes or nations within its borders.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Sam.
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>> Speaker B: M.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Do not be deceived by the stereotype of the
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mild-mannered librarian. In a time when elected
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leaders and their followers ban books, librarians
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have been fierce protectors of outlawed published
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works. This is the story of a librarian. But this
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isn't a story about destroying and saving books.
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It's about a government plan to slice through a
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pristine landscape of historical significance in
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order to build one of over 600 roads
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throughout the English countryside.
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So much destruction, all to shave off seven
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minutes for commuters driving between Southampton
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and London. In 1992, Emma Must was working as a
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children's librarian in nearby Winchester,
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England. She would respond to a series of events
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that ultimately led to a High Court ruling that
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sentenced her to Holloway, an all-women's prison
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in north London. Thirty years later, Emma
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published The Ballad of Yellow Wednesday. It's a
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book of poetry about her time in prison and the
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events that led to her imprisonment.
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Shirley-Anne McMillan, a writer of young adult fiction
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in Northern Ireland, introduced me to Emma. In a
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noisy community-run space, Emma told me the story
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that propelled her out of the children's section
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of the library and onto the front lines of
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nonviolent direct action.
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>> Speaker B: In 1989, very, very close to the end of
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her time as prime minister, Margaret Thatcher
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brought in something which she called the biggest
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road building program since the Romans. This was a
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very audacious attempt to build more than 600 road
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schemes across Britain. This would destroy many,
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many protected green spaces, ancient sites, sites
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of special scientific interest, scheduled ancient
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monuments, national parks across the land. I
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remember reading a list of it and it read like The
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Twelve Days of Christmas, the list of things that
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were set to be destroyed. Twyford Down was one of
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the worst. To save seven minutes off the journey
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time by road between Southampton and London—
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that's what it was intended to do. It was a
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flagship scheme for them. It was important for
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them that this one went through. But if they could
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get this through, it meant they could bulldoze
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anywhere.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Emma Must felt outraged and concerned about the
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future of this environmentally significant
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landscape. It featured flower-rich chalk turf,
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often called chalk grassland. This highly specific
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ancient habitat grows on thin, nutrient-poor soil
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over lime or chalk rocks. In the UK, it is often
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described as the European equivalent of a tropical
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rainforest because it supports an incredibly dense
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variety of plant and insect life. Twyford Down is
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historically significant because of the ancient
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trackways called dongas.
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These were the same pathways that medieval
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pilgrims traveled on between the cathedral in
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Canterbury and Winchester Cathedral. On a
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neighboring hill stand the massive earthworks of a
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fort built around the year 250 BCE. As a
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librarian, Emma began her research hoping to find
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out who else was concerned and how they were
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responding.
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>> Speaker B: There had been these very prominent local groups,
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all of whom when I tried to ring them up, said,
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"Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No one's
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campaigning against it anymore.
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The road's going ahead." So I thought, well,
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what can I do? What can I do? I was on the phone,
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couldn't find anybody who thought we could still
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stop the road. And then a poet friend of mine, a
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guy called Andy Jordan in Southampton, he said,
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"Oh, but you know that there's a camp, a camp."
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I didn't. Let's go, let's go up. We got the train.
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Then we walked up and we met this group of young
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people who had been camped up on the hill since
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the summer of 1992. They called themselves the
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Dongas Tribe.
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They named themselves after these ancient drovers'
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trackways known as the dongas, which is actually a
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Matabele word for gully. These great swathes, these
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great holloways going through one end of Twyford
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Down. They were very much sort of in tune with the
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environment and they were very much trying to stop
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the road going ahead. There was another group still
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going called the Friends of Twyford Down, who met
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in the Quaker meeting hall in Winchester once a
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week. There were liaisons between the camp and
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this phalanx of local people who were still
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campaigning against the road.
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I was so relieved to discover that other people
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still cared about it—a small handful who had been
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involved in the bigger campaigns before but were
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continuing. Once I'd met these two groups of
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people, and in particular Becca Lush, my fellow
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campaigner, who was at that time living up on the
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hill, that was it. The touch paper had been lit.
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People got on like a house on fire. People got on
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so, so well. One of the lessons of the anti-roads
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movement, beginning for me with Twyford, was this
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broad mix of people building alliances and working
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with each other. From the pleated-skirted Tory
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ladies of Winchester through to these, these
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younger people with beads in their hair living up
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on the hill. People got on incredibly well with
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great humour, with great passion and with great
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determination. And we were all trying to do the
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same thing, which was to stop the road going
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ahead.
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We threw everything at it to try to stop it.
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Petitions to the European Commission through
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further legal action, looking at alternatives to
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the road, right the way through to direct action.
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Mass protests, ultimately very inventive types of
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campaigning as well. We had a crosses
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demonstration with names of all the animals and
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birds who would lose their habitats on the road.
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We had an attempt to measure the cutting to show
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that it was actually going to be much wider than
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it said in the plans. It became necessary to
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physically stop the road going ahead whilst all
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these bigger processes were going on.
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We were pinning our hopes on the European
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Commission. It was touch-and-go always whether
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that would work. We had politicians of all flavours
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and types coming giving speeches in the cutting.
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We organized mass demonstrations—everything we
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could to try to stop the road. We needed to
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keep holding up the work.
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So a great deal of direct action was taken. I
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think with all campaigns you're learning from
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what's gone before. You're standing on the
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shoulders of other people.
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>> Peterson Toscano: The small local collective of concerned citizens
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and activists made enough noise that people
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engaged in other protest movements heard and
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responded. They brought with them the insights and
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experiences from their training in firsthand
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nonviolent direct action campaigns.
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>> Speaker B: People who had experience of direct action from
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other spheres were absolutely instrumental in what
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we learned at Twyford about how to do direct
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action. Nonviolent direct actions are always
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stopping short of violence, whatever it took to
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stop the machinery. There were women who lived
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locally who'd been involved in the Greenham Common
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campaign up in Newbury against Trident, against
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nuclear warheads in Newbury.
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They would have been slightly older women who'd
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been doing this for some time. They were very,
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very savvy. They were brilliant at direct action
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tactics. And then alongside these sort of middle-
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aged and older women was a group of dominantly
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young, very, very young men from the UK who had
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learnt direct action tactics from Earth First! in
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the States and directly imported that over. So
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there was a nascent Earth First! movement in
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Britain at that time.
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They brought over tactics like tripods and
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crucially D-locks—so locking yourself by the neck
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to machinery to physically stop it. Things like
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putting your arm into a tube, a metal tube, and
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locking on inside there.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Emma learned that courage can be contagious.
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Inspired by an activist living up on the hill,
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Emma made an essential nuisance of herself by
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using her body to interrupt the destruction.
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>> Speaker B: Becca Lush and I, we had a phase a little bit
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further down in the campaign as a tag team,
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locking ourselves onto the machinery. So she would
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lock herself on by the neck in between the front
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axle and I would lock myself onto the footplate
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on the side. This would hold up work for hours and
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hours and hours because workmen would have to, uh,
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figure out how to get us off, which involved on
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one occasion dismantling the whole caboodle, the
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whole machine. I was stood with this great massive
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piece of metal around my neck, supported by four
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men, and Becca was still locked on under the front,
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cheering and waving. It was whatever we could do
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to hold up the work.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Now, you know your activism is working when your
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opponent turns to force. "Enough playing around,"
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they say, "enough is enough." So they ramp up their
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defenses and grow aggressive. A military
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display attempts to send the message: stop this
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childish campaigning foolishness and let the
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adults get their work done.
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That is what happened on Wednesday, 9th December at
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dawn on Twyford Down.
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>> Speaker B: After years and years and years of public
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inquiries, legal action and very vigorous local
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campaigning, the workmen and the bulldozers of the
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Department of Transport moved onto Twyford Down
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to begin the main phase of the construction work.
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Up until then it had only been this minor work,
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the scraping off of the topsoil and some moving of
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some turf. On that morning they were accompanied
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by dozens of security guards wearing fluorescent
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yellow jackets.
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Hence the day would subsequently become known as
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Yellow Wednesday. On Yellow Wednesday I was
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at work as usual in the children's library in
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Winchester, oblivious to what was going on. Dozens
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of security guards wearing fluorescent yellow
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jackets were met with resistance by the Dongas
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Tribe, this small group of young people camping on
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the hill. And after work I walked up to the
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down as usual to take supplies up to the camp.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Becca Lush was on the hill when the security
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guards forcibly removed the campaigners. At
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the 20th anniversary of Yellow Wednesday, she
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described it: "It was a horrific experience and
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very violent. We were dragged through thorns and
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we were being kicked and punched and someone
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pulled out a clump of my hair." End quote.
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In her poem "Where the Wild Things Are," Emma
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relives Yellow Wednesday, unaware of the escalation
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of events on the hill. She works in the children's
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section of the nearby library. There were no
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mobile phones. It was just the dawn of the digital
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age before Facebook, streaming services, and
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widespread use of artificial intelligence. Back
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then, the Winchester library didn't have computer
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terminals.
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On that day, Emma works carefully, returning
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what is misplaced and mending what is broken. In
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her poem, you will hear Emma reference the 1963
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children's picture book Where the Wild Things Are.
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Maurice Sendak wrote and illustrated it.
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>> Speaker B: Where the Wild Things Are.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Um.
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>> Speaker B: Winchester, Wednesday, 9th of December 1992. I am
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working in the library reshelving books. On a hill
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a mile away, all hell is breaking loose.
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I skulk in the aisles of the children's section,
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sticking missing picture labels onto spines. White
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butterflies fluttering over grassland. Serious
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owls in the blue of night. Rabbits with
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bobtails angled cheekily at borrowers. I decide to
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display The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Then on a
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whim, The Tiger Who Came to Tea. I have a go on
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the laminator. The acrid taste of melting plastic
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film hangs in the corrals. I'll tackle minor
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book repairs tomorrow. Winchester, Thursday, 10th
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of December 1992.
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I've hardly slept and smell of wood smoke. All
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our books are broken and I have no heart for
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mending. How can I replace these torn end sheets?
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Fly leaves have been ripped from paste downs.
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Folded signatures have come unsewn. Joints are
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bent forever out of kilter. Beaded headbands flap,
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detached. I am not equipped to glue spines back. I
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seek out Maurice Sendak's book, those yellow eyes
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and terrible teeth, before I can start to write
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what I have seen.
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>> Peterson Toscano: I remember the wild things of 2018 and 2019: the
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Fridays for Future student movement.
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>> Peterson Toscano: What do we do? Stand up, fight back! What do we do?
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Stand up, fight back! When the water we drink is
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under attack, what do we do? Stand up, fight back!
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When the earth we live on is under attack—
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>> Speaker B: Attack!
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>> Peterson Toscano: What do we do? Stand up, fight back! What do we
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do?
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Stand up, fight back!
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>> Peterson Toscano: It was on August 20, 2018. Greta Thunberg, a 15-
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year-old Swedish student, decided not to attend
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school until the Swedish general election on
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September 9. This was after a summer of record-
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breaking heat waves and devastating wildfires in
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Sweden.
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Greta sat outside the Swedish Parliament in
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Stockholm during school hours. She held a
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handwritten cardboard sign that translated to
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"School Strike for Climate." Her goal was to
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pressure the Swedish government to reduce carbon
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emissions in alignment with the Paris Agreement.
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This was during the time of social media; through
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Twitter and Instagram, her message provoked others
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to join her in what she termed hashtag
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#FridaysForFuture.
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In a little over a year, an estimated 7.6 million
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people participated in strikes across 185
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countries.
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I attended some of these strikes around the USA
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and chatted with some of the youth demonstrators
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and their parents. I remember speaking with one
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youth doing climate work who decided not to join
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the weekly demonstrations. He told me, "My
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schoolwork is too important right now. I want to
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make sure I get into a good college." Perhaps many
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other young Americans felt the same way.
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Fridays for Future in Europe grew into a
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mainstream mass movement with hundreds of
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thousands to millions marching in major cities.
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But in the US it remained a smaller, more
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localized movement. I imagine many young people
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and their parents concluded that sustaining a long-
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term weekly campaign was too risky. I confess, as
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an American myself, I am passionate about climate
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change and other social justice issues. But I've
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not been willing to disrupt my life in order to
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demand change.
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I tell myself I have my ways of contributing to
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the conversation through writing and producing
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podcasts, educating the public. And that's true.
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It's what I'm good at and I hope it's making an
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impact. But I haven't been willing to miss days of
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work while protesting or rack up legal expenses
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from getting arrested. I prefer a behind-the-
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scenes approach and a supportive role.
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Now, is that just me and how I'm wired, or is it
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because I grew up in the United States where
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valuing an individual's comfort and safety feels
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like a God-given right to many of us? I'm sure
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it's a combination. And listening to Emma, she
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challenges me and disturbs me. Especially the next
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part of her story when she and her fellow
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campaigners refuse to take no for an answer even
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after receiving a legal injunction to stand down.
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They did everything in their power to stop the
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destruction of Twyford Down.
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>> Speaker B: So it's very important to say that we were
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arrested on many, many occasions during actions
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and protests.
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Some people all the time. Becca Lush was arrested
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all the time. I was arrested a few times and so we
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would spend the night in a police cell. But this
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is very, very different from what happened in
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terms of the imprisonment. So after Yellow
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Wednesday, the Department of Transport employed a
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private detective agency to compile so-called
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action files of our protest activity.
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And they used these to take out High Court
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injunctions preventing us from entering the
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construction site. Now this is actually civil law.
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Certainly here we've got criminal law and you've
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got civil law. They took out these injunctions
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against us and then they delivered these action
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files. Mine arrived in the night when it was dark
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on my doorstep.
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A jaunty young man with a flat haircut
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turned up in his very fancy car and handed me
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a packet of papers. This was my action file which
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had photos of me taking protest activity.
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And this happened to—altogether there were 77 of
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us.
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During a mass protest on the 4th of July 1993,
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several of us pinned our action file numbers to
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our chests. I was action file number 36. We
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crossed the fence to once again walk on our hill.
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This is what it was forbidding us from doing, from
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walking on the hill. Seven of us were subsequently
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imprisoned.
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We had to go to the High Court in London and go
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through this whole court case, our day in court at
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the High Court in London, and ultimately seven of
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us were imprisoned for breaching the injunction.
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The men were sent to Pentonville prison and
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the women to Holloway Prison in London.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Sam.
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>> Peterson Toscano: A significant section of Emma's poetry book,
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The Ballad of Yellow Wednesday, centers on her
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time in prison at Holloway. Similar to when she
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tag-teamed with Becca Lush to lock their bodies to
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the same earth-moving machine, Emma was locked up
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with Becca at Holloway. It was at the High Court
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sentencing that Emma heard words that stayed with
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her for years. In her poetry, she turns those
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words around in yet another form of protest.
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>> Speaker B: Sentencing us, the High Court judge, Mr.
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Justice Elliott said, "You have been quick to snatch
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the martyr's crown and you may find it
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uncomfortable
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headgear."
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>> Peterson Toscano: In this poem you will hear how Emma expertly
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weaves images of hair braiding with visions of an
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open field, perhaps even Twyford Down.
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>> Speaker B: This poem I'll read is from a sequence called
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Holloway Letters, "The Martyr's Crown." The sequence
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is dedicated to my fellow campaigner and inmate,
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the formidable, indomitable Becca Lush. She
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was hugely important in the campaign.
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This one is called "Cane Row."
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Like the cork oak in a circle of herself, each
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full-grown woman would turn a little girlish at
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the prospect of a proper hairdo. Sitting in
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lines of three or four or pairs, we'd plait each
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other's hair in tight flat rows. Part a section
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to get things started; make stitch braids out of
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the strands, adding in hair from the row below. We
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dreamed in parallel of fields double-dug,
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rough hoed by the tiller, then ploughed into kick
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waves of keels and furrows.
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We'd reach the nape and keep on plaiting, secure
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each end with a snap bead, bolo tip or barrette.
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Our loose braids mirrored as a shoal of minnows.
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>> Peterson Toscano: Emma Must, Becca Lush, the Dongas Tribe, the many
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women who refused to give up and give in—they all
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sacrificed one way or another. And how does one
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measure success in such a campaign? If success
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means halting the destruction of Twyford Down and
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shutting down the construction of a bypass that
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saved commuters seven minutes on their daily
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commute, well, then they failed. Despite the
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intense blockades, mass arrests, and the high-
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profile jailing of Emma, Becca, and five other
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protesters, the government did not back down.
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Engineers blasted through the hill. Over 4.7 acres
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of protected chalk grassland and ancient trackways
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were permanently destroyed. The Department of
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Transport completed the construction and the final
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link of the M3 motorway officially opened in
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1995.
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I asked Emma what the site looks like
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today. I was also curious to know what happened
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next after they stood up to Thatcher on her quest
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to bulldoze the countryside and build over 600
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roads.
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>> Speaker B: There's a gaping chasm through the hill which
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extends for a mile from the River Itchen at
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what was the hill's foot through to beyond the
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other side of Winchester. Today the scar is not
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bright white. It was originally a bright white
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scar in the landscape.
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Now it's greyed over a little bit, to some extent
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greened over a little bit. But it's a great gash
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through what was an Area of Outstanding Natural
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Beauty. And it's not anymore; they had to move the
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boundary because it really isn't beautiful
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anymore. We lost the battle, but we won the war—
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the particular war.
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This was, remember, just one road out of 660-odd
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roads at that time. Although the road ultimately
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went ahead, the sheer energy and outrage that the
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movement—that was invigorated by this defeat at
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Twyford Down—sort of fueled a pre-existing anti-
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roads movement and energized what was already
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there. And in a series of more noisy defeats and
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many, many quiet victories, and in a series of
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scalings back of the roads program, by 1998 we
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had got rid of all the roads program except for
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34 schemes. So out of 667, we were down to 34.
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The Roads Minister, Steven Norris, said on a BBC
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Panorama program he felt it was the biggest change
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in any government policy in 40 years. The biggest
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U-turn. I think we'll count that as a win.
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>> Peterson Toscano: I don't cross my t's, I don't dot my i's. Won't
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say pretty please, I speak in little white lies.
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I've got a rebel soul, I've got a rebel soul. I've
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got a rebel soul, I've got a rebel soul. Just get
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down with it, down with it, down. I really just get
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down.
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I ain't no thing that you can chain with a ring.
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Soul, I've got a rebel soul, I've got a rebel soul.
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I've got a rebel soul. Just get down with it, down
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with it, down with it. Just get down.
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I can be good when I wanna, I just don't wanna. I
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can be good when I wanna, I just don't wanna. I
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can be a good girl when I wanna, I just don't wanna.
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I can be good, I can be good, but no, I got a rebel
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soul, hey, I've got a re—
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I got a rebel soul, I got a rebel soul, hey, down
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with it, my rebel soul.
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Get down with it, down with it, down with it.
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Just get down with it, down with it, down with it.
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Just get down with it, down with it, down with
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it, down with it, down. I've got a rebel soul.
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>> Peterson Toscano: This podcast is written and produced by me,
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Peterson Toscano. I mostly make the show for
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myself, oh, and for my dear friend George
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Ferrandi. You just heard Katharine Appleton
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singing "Rebel Soul." That song and all of our music
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come from epidemicsound.com. You can learn
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more about poet and creative writing teacher Emma
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Must at her website, emmamust.com. Her book of
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poetry is The Ballad of Yellow Wednesday.
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It was published by Valley Press. Learn more about
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the Lenape Nation of Pennsylvania and support them
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by attending and promoting their events or
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shopping at their online store. Visit
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lenape-nation.org. You can find me, Peterson Toscano,
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on TikTok, Instagram, Pinterest, Bluesky,
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Facebook, or just walking around eBov' in
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Mpumalanga, South Africa. And thanks for
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listening.
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