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A really quick note before we get
started today. Today's episode was recorded a
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couple weeks ago at the conclusion of
the Olympic lose races. Enjoy. Hello
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everyone, very excited to be here
today. We just wrapped up watching our
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team over in Beijing Compete, and
today I have a guest who just got
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back from Europe a couple like what, a week ago, after winning a
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bronze medal at junior world championships.
CONGRATS and welcome, Matt Grinder. Hi
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Brenna, thank you so much for
having me. I've been listening to the
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PODCAST and I wanted to be on
for a while, so I'm super stoked
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to be here. That's awesome.
I always like to hear when people listen
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because I'm just never sure, so
I'm glad to know that people are listening.
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Tell me how long you've been involved
in the sport. So I've been
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siding for just over nine years.
My ten year anniversaries this coming October.
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I started, I'm sure this was
going to be your next question. I
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started in Park City, Utah,
where I grew up, in the after
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school program at the Utah Olympic Park. I saw I advertised one day or
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something and and I just said Hey, that looks like fun. And on
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the first day I got the heck
beat out of me through lot point there
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and came back the next week.
I think was like on Fridays or something.
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In I was playing hockey at the
times and I was wearing my like
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hockey pad, so it didn't hurt
too bad and came back and just stuck
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with it. So you grew up
in park city or Salt Lake. So
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I and my parents are still there. I grew up like fifteen minutes from
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the track. I live really close
to the Olympic Park Cool. And now
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you live here and Lee class and
you're a resident at the Olympic Paralympic Training
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Center. Yep, I'm full time
here. This summer I was able to
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get into the residency program and due
to Covid we haven't had any roommates,
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so it's actually been pretty nice to
have the whole room to myself. Yeah,
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I know in this when the it's
cyclees over every July, and so
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in July we're going to have to
go back to having roommates. You guys
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are spoiled. You have triples and
quad bunk buds, like lots of people
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all in that one little room.
So obviously you started in Park City and
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then you eventually moved on to the
track here and like placid. I imagine
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that was your second track. Definitely. Do you recall like your first impressions
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of making that move from Park City
to like classid? I mean they're so
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different. The tracks are completely different. So you know kind of how that
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feel over? Yeah, I was
really young at the time, but it's
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they're like the two most different tracks
I can think of there. They are
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night and day different. I remember
my first time on a training side from
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start for walking with my coach at
the time, John Ohen, it felt
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like so different to park city because
parks's there's a lot of pressure, it's
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a lot faster, and then here, like passes, you know, it's
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quick, short drives and and really
controlling the slide. So it was a
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shocking change and my first couple times
here I didn't have too much success and
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then basically once I moved up to
start three for the first time is when
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I started to figure out what the
shock was about. Tell me about that
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bronze at junior world's. Is this
the first time you've metaled at junior world.
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Yeah, so this is my first
junior world's ever. It was in
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Winterburg, Germany. I junior worlds
is a funny race because seniors like it're
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not necessary seniors, but people who
are in the junior age group and have
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been racing senior for maybe a season
or two like to come down and steal
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the metals from the juniors, and
so it can be a little frustrating and
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that after the first run I was
in fifth and I felt like I was
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having such a good training week and
I was disappointed with how I placed Fiv
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and and that sort and I sort
of got angry and frustrated with Roman rebel
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off and some of some of the
or not pavel repel off and and some
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of the other senior people who have
been siding senior who came down to race,
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and that sort of anger kind of
feeled me to have my personal best
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run on the second I had a
record start for me and a record finish.
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It was a wonderful second run.
That's awesome and like boosted me up
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to third. I got to convoladder
and she just eight thousands of a second
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off a second posts really. Yeah, just I mean faster than a bit
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faster than the blank of an eye. Look at that. So who finished
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ahead of you, so ahead of
me, was for in Mure of Germany
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was second and then Matt Vey,
Paris drone and of Russia was first by
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almost half a second. Okay,
it was. He was dominant the last
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two seasons. It's been tough on
everyone, of course, the last two
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years, but it was. It's
been really tough for the junior athletes because
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there were no competition last year.
None happening in Europe, none in the
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US. The last time you were
in Europe before this fall was two thousand
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and nineteen. Right, Yep,
two thousand and nineteen. How do you
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think that affected her sliding? It
was. It was a slog for sure.
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That whole season. We spent the
time here in like past it,
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I think it was. It was
like a basically a month camp November to
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like Thanksgiving, Christmas, and then
like sixty four days or something. We
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counted out, because I remember we
got the news were like, Oh my
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God, we're going to be here
for so almost seventy days. This is
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going to be awful, and it
was really tough. I mean it really
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weed it out who who wants to
be here, and who doesn't? Because
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we would go from our OTC room, our training center rooms, to the
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weight room, to the start facility, to the track and nowhere else,
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and entering the training center each time
we had to do a week long quarantine
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where we were in our training center
rooms. They brought our meals to us.
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You could not leave your room.
It was brutal. That's I don't
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envy that at all. But obviously
you, you know, came back.
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You made it through the slot.
You slogged through and had a really excellent
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season. I mean I remember watching
times from over in Europe. I think
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the first race was out over in
Laplan, which is an amazing track,
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and how do you finish on that
race? That was my I think Winneburg
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was my best race the season,
but I think that really we showed coming
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into it. I was nervous right
because after the season in like plasted.
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It was like, Oh, I
don't know how I'm going to stack up,
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I don't know if I'm going to
be way behind or whatever. And
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in the pawn for the entire training
week as well as the official training race
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week, I was in the top
three four training times and I totally clicked
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with that track. It's a very
similar park city. I think it's like
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the same architect as well, and
super flowy, super fast. That that
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it the really steep start ramp into
a really sharp start curve. It to
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me, and a lot of people
on my team agreed with this sentiment,
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is it felt like that track was
made for me because it was so similar
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to park city and the steep start
ramp. You really evened out what I'm
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lacking on the start and so I
got gold in both race days. It
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was really, really awesome. Yeah, that is awesome. You were lucky
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enough, or you know, skilled
enough, to be to race under the
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Youth Olympic Games. You competed at
the latest one in St mere at Switzerland.
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Tell me about your experience there.
That was awesome. That is certainly
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one of the highlights of my career. We had a race off here in
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like placcid between me and the other
junior boys, and I want all three
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days of the race off. So
I made it to get onto the team
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that was going to go for the
junior circuit, and the first three races
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of that junior circuit were what decided
who was going to qualify for the Games
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and that was my first real international
race. It was in innsbruck and I
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I think my it was two days. First Day I finished seventh. I
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was like hey, that's like pretty
good because I had zero expectations coming and
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I hadn't even looking at times and
I was like what, seventh, I'm
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pretty happy with that. And then
the next day I got fourth, which
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was awesome, and then I did
again sort of consistent, somewhere between seven
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and tie. Third was my best
before the Games in the following races.
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And then my first international podium was
in Altenburg that year, which was awesome.
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And then from there, it was
after Christmas da announced the team.
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It was going to be me and
because my results are so good, I
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was able to qualify another singles male
athlete, my teammate Hunter Harris, the
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women's doubles team of my Chan and
Ryan and Wiler, and then women singles
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of mckennamzzo, and we were super
tight group and it was so much fun
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to see not only other American athletes
but also all these teams that came from
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all of over to sort of get
together. And you know, we did
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like the opening ceremonies and all this
stuff, in same Maritz. It was
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really just an incredible experience. In
four years, possibly a few make the
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Olympic team. Would that experience at
Youth Olympic Games help you be prepared to
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compete in the real deal? Absolutely, I think I have a little bit.
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I mean it, it's certainly not
the same, but a little bit
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of an idea of what I'm getting
myself into. And there's definitely a lot
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of factors that play into whether I
make it to the two thousand and twenty
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six games, but I think being
a youth in them being sort of give
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me a taste of what it's like
to be a real Olympian. Okay,
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so let's aft gears a little bit. We're going to talk about the Pinnacle
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of the Loge Sport, the Olympic
Games. We just finished watching them today
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and I want to hear what you
thought. I mean, it was difficult
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week, that's for sure, but
we did our best and we've worked hard.
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Yeah, it was really awesome to
watch. I think you know now
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I'm eighteen. This was come on
Chang as well, but this this was
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the first timis that I really want
you know. I watched every second of
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these games for Lug. anyways,
and I watched the opening ceremonies and everything
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and it was so awesome to see
people like Ashley Far Course in Sean Hollanders
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Act to your gory oh that I
know. You know, people that I've
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stood with for a year or two
and and you know I know them decently
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well, and to see them there
on the TV, on the world stage
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doing, you know, doing the
thing that I'm dreaming to do and hopefully
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I'll get to do with them one
day, was really, really incredible.
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Yeah, I but it helps you
actually envision yourself doing the same a hundred
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percent. When we watched team relay
this morning and I saw Zack and Sean
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at Ashley, I was like,
man, I like to be the singles
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guy in that relay team. That
would be an awesome relay ty be pretty
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cool. Lots of crashing this week. It just looks like a tough track.
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It's I know you never slid there, but it looks tough, especially
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that exit thirteen into the finish curve. They're what did you think about that
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track? Yeah, I mean that
track looks wild. The there's so much
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vertical variance in that cryes al.
It looks like it goes uphill in the
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downhill. I mean it's it's crazy
looking and talking a little bit to Dana
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Kellogg, a senior men's doubles athlete, about his experience there, and he
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was like yeah, it's a really
fun track, but there's not a lot
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of room for error, and especially
that they were calling it the tail of
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the Dragon all week, that thirteen
into sixteen. I mean you watching the
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women sleds especially, I mean it
was consistently if you there's one mistake that
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if they made it, it looks
like you're almost guaranteed to tip over.
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And every side, men's women's doubles, you know one in three sides maybe
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would get that would be on one
runner for a considerable amount of time in
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there. I mean it's intense looking
but it looks like a lot of fun.
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It's hopefully it's sticking around after these
games and can maybe become a stop,
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because I'd like to take a tick
of slide down there. I will
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say like I think I could see
an hour athletes that they were putting it
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all out on the line. You
know, when it's the big show,
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it's the pinnacle, like I mentioned
earlier, you're going to go for it.
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You're going to put everything you can
into it, and that means mentally
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physically as well as your slood set
up. And sometimes that Slod set up,
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a fast sled is on the edge
constantly, and I think that probably
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is what we saw in some of
the runs. Totally agree, I think.
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You know, our athletes aren't afraid
to throw down and take the risks
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that they're going to need to take
to do to do their best, and
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sometimes times it doesn't pan out.
I'm certain you know all of them are
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more than capable of signing on a
scary sight like that, where it's round
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as can be and sometimes these things
just happen. Yeah, I'm super proud
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of every everyone who competed. So
today was the team, team relay.
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It was such an exciting event.
I let every time I see it it's
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very, very fun to watch.
You know, we were all together watching
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it today, jumping up and down, screaming as loud as we could,
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sending the fast vibes over, you
know, to Beijing. Tell me what
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you thought of our team's performance?
Chris Master and Ash Far Carson did incredibly
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well, especially Ashley being in her
first Games. I mean I think she
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had the fourth beast women's time of
that relay. I mean that's awesome and
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Chris Master always seems to pull it
out in the Olympics. So impressed,
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and I mean everyone in the at
our wash party here. I mean we
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were jumping up and down, screaming
and clapping and Zack and Sean they pulled
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off. Everything was looking good.
It looks like they were thrown together a
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really nice run and then they just
broke out a little bit in that bending
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straightaway and there was like a half
second of silence, but then they didn't
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crash. And Look, I think
most of besides in that situation are going
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to flip over. Yeah, and
so I was so impressed that they were
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able to save it and and only
came up about five tens back of Canada.
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I mean for their first Olympics,
it's their first real competitive year on
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that double side. So so well
for those guys. Not only that,
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I think this was their first relay
ever as a team. Yeah, they've
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never competed in a relay. So
I didn't even think about that. That's
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very impressive for those guys. Are
So very good. Job To them.
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So we had the really fun opportunity
to coach a screening camp together this week
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along with Dana calog most people who
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you described our your start, but
most people start by going through the White
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Castle slider search and then talented athletes
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time in like placid at a screening
camp, and that's exactly what we were
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coaching this week and I had such
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It was my first time doing something
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forward to doing something like that again. Yeah, it was really fun and
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it's it's fun to see it go
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top and the bottom. Yeah,
exactly. Well, you know, thanks
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so much for coming into chat.
I know you're headed off to park city
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next week to do junior nationals and
all that good stuff, so I wish
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luck safe travels. Yeah, thank you
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so much for having me. This
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A really quick note before we get
started today. Today's episode was recorded a
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couple weeks ago at the conclusion of
the Olympic lose races. Enjoy. Hello
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everyone, very excited to be here
today. We just wrapped up watching our
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team over in Beijing Compete, and
today I have a guest who just got
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back from Europe a couple like what, a week ago, after winning a
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bronze medal at junior world championships.
CONGRATS and welcome, Matt Grinder. Hi
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Brenna, thank you so much for
having me. I've been listening to the
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PODCAST and I wanted to be on
for a while, so I'm super stoked
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to be here. That's awesome.
I always like to hear when people listen
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because I'm just never sure, so
I'm glad to know that people are listening.
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Tell me how long you've been involved
in the sport. So I've been
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siding for just over nine years.
My ten year anniversaries this coming October.
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I started, I'm sure this was
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started in Park City, Utah,
where I grew up, in the after
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school program at the Utah Olympic Park. I saw I advertised one day or
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something and and I just said Hey, that looks like fun. And on
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the first day I got the heck
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and came back the next week.
I think was like on Fridays or something.
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In I was playing hockey at the
times and I was wearing my like
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hockey pad, so it didn't hurt
too bad and came back and just stuck
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with it. So you grew up
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I and my parents are still there. I grew up like fifteen minutes from
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the track. I live really close
to the Olympic Park Cool. And now
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you live here and Lee class and
you're a resident at the Olympic Paralympic Training
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Center. Yep, I'm full time
here. This summer I was able to
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get into the residency program and due
to Covid we haven't had any roommates,
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so it's actually been pretty nice to
have the whole room to myself. Yeah,
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I know in this when the it's
cyclees over every July, and so
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in July we're going to have to
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are spoiled. You have triples and
quad bunk buds, like lots of people
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all in that one little room.
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then you eventually moved on to the
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that was your second track. Definitely. Do you recall like your first impressions
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of making that move from Park City
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different. The tracks are completely different. So you know kind of how that
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feel over? Yeah, I was
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they're like the two most different tracks
I can think of there. They are
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night and day different. I remember
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start for walking with my coach at
the time, John Ohen, it felt
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like so different to park city because
parks's there's a lot of pressure, it's
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a lot faster, and then here, like passes, you know, it's
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quick, short drives and and really
controlling the slide. So it was a
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shocking change and my first couple times
here I didn't have too much success and
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then basically once I moved up to
start three for the first time is when
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I started to figure out what the
shock was about. Tell me about that
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bronze at junior world's. Is this
the first time you've metaled at junior world.
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Winterburg, Germany. I junior worlds
is a funny race because seniors like it're
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not necessary seniors, but people who
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been racing senior for maybe a season
or two like to come down and steal
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the metals from the juniors, and
so it can be a little frustrating and
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that after the first run I was
in fifth and I felt like I was
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having such a good training week and
I was disappointed with how I placed Fiv
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and and that sort and I sort
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off and some of some of the
or not pavel repel off and and some
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of the other senior people who have
been siding senior who came down to race,
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and that sort of anger kind of
feeled me to have my personal best
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run on the second I had a
record start for me and a record finish.
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It was a wonderful second run.
That's awesome and like boosted me up
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to third. I got to convoladder
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off a second posts really. Yeah, just I mean faster than a bit
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faster than the blank of an eye. Look at that. So who finished
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ahead of you, so ahead of
me, was for in Mure of Germany
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was second and then Matt Vey,
Paris drone and of Russia was first by
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almost half a second. Okay,
it was. He was dominant the last
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two seasons. It's been tough on
everyone, of course, the last two
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years, but it was. It's
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there were no competition last year.
None happening in Europe, none in the
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US. The last time you were
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and nineteen. Right, Yep,
two thousand and nineteen. How do you
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think that affected her sliding? It
was. It was a slog for sure.
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That whole season. We spent the
time here in like past it,
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like Thanksgiving, Christmas, and then
like sixty four days or something. We
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counted out, because I remember we
got the news were like, Oh my
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God, we're going to be here
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going to be awful, and it
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weed it out who who wants to
be here, and who doesn't? Because
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we would go from our OTC room, our training center rooms, to the
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weight room, to the start facility, to the track and nowhere else,
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and entering the training center each time
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where we were in our training center
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It was brutal. That's I don't
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envy that at all. But obviously
you, you know, came back.
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You slogged through and had a really excellent
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season. I mean I remember watching
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the first race was out over in
Laplan, which is an amazing track,
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and how do you finish on that
race? That was my I think Winneburg
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was my best race the season,
but I think that really we showed coming
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into it. I was nervous right
because after the season in like plasted.
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don't know how I'm going to stack up,
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I don't know if I'm going to
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in the pawn for the entire training
week as well as the official training race
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week, I was in the top
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with that track. It's a very
similar park city. I think it's like
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the same architect as well, and
super flowy, super fast. That that
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it the really steep start ramp into
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me, and a lot of people
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is it felt like that track was
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to park city and the steep start
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lacking on the start and so I
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was really, really awesome. Yeah, that is awesome. You were lucky
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enough, or you know, skilled
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Youth Olympic Games. You competed at
the latest one in St mere at Switzerland.
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Tell me about your experience there.
That was awesome. That is certainly
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one of the highlights of my career. We had a race off here in
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like placcid between me and the other
junior boys, and I want all three
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days of the race off. So
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that was going to go for the
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of that junior circuit were what decided
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and that was my first real international
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was like hey, that's like pretty
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I hadn't even looking at times and
I was like what, seventh, I'm
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pretty happy with that. And then
the next day I got fourth, which
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was awesome, and then I did
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and tie. Third was my best
before the Games in the following races.
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And then my first international podium was
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after Christmas da announced the team.
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It was going to be me and
because my results are so good, I
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was able to qualify another singles male
athlete, my teammate Hunter Harris, the
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women's doubles team of my Chan and
Ryan and Wiler, and then women singles
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of mckennamzzo, and we were super
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to see not only other American athletes
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all of over to sort of get
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like the opening ceremonies and all this
stuff, in same Maritz. It was
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really just an incredible experience. In
four years, possibly a few make the
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Olympic team. Would that experience at
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compete in the real deal? Absolutely, I think I have a little bit.
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I mean it, it's certainly not
the same, but a little bit
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of an idea of what I'm getting
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of factors that play into whether I
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six games, but I think being
a youth in them being sort of give
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me a taste of what it's like
to be a real Olympian. Okay,
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so let's aft gears a little bit. We're going to talk about the Pinnacle
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of the Loge Sport, the Olympic
Games. We just finished watching them today
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and I want to hear what you
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week, that's for sure, but
we did our best and we've worked hard.
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watch. I think you know now
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I'm eighteen. This was come on
Chang as well, but this this was
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the first timis that I really want
you know. I watched every second of
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these games for Lug. anyways,
and I watched the opening ceremonies and everything
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and it was so awesome to see
people like Ashley Far Course in Sean Hollanders
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Act to your gory oh that I
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stood with for a year or two
and and you know I know them decently
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well, and to see them there
on the TV, on the world stage
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doing, you know, doing the
thing that I'm dreaming to do and hopefully
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I'll get to do with them one
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Yeah, I but it helps you
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percent. When we watched team relay
this morning and I saw Zack and Sean
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man, I like to be the singles
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guy in that relay team. That
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cool. Lots of crashing this week. It just looks like a tough track.
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It's I know you never slid there, but it looks tough, especially
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that exit thirteen into the finish curve. They're what did you think about that
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track? Yeah, I mean that
track looks wild. The there's so much
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vertical variance in that cryes al.
It looks like it goes uphill in the
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downhill. I mean it's it's crazy
looking and talking a little bit to Dana
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Kellogg, a senior men's doubles athlete, about his experience there, and he
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was like yeah, it's a really
fun track, but there's not a lot
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of room for error, and especially
that they were calling it the tail of
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the Dragon all week, that thirteen
into sixteen. I mean you watching the
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women sleds especially, I mean it
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if they made it, it looks
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but it looks like a lot of fun.
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because I'd like to take a tick
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say like I think I could see
an hour athletes that they were putting it
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all out on the line. You
know, when it's the big show,
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it's the pinnacle, like I mentioned
earlier, you're going to go for it.
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physically as well as your slood set
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a fast sled is on the edge
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is what we saw in some of
the runs. Totally agree, I think.
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that they're going to need to take
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sometimes times it doesn't pan out.
I'm certain you know all of them are
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more than capable of signing on a
scary sight like that, where it's round
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as can be and sometimes these things
just happen. Yeah, I'm super proud
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of every everyone who competed. So
today was the team, team relay.
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It was such an exciting event.
I let every time I see it it's
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very, very fun to watch.
You know, we were all together watching
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it today, jumping up and down, screaming as loud as we could,
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sending the fast vibes over, you
know, to Beijing. Tell me what
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you thought of our team's performance?
Chris Master and Ash Far Carson did incredibly
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well, especially Ashley being in her
first Games. I mean I think she
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had the fourth beast women's time of
that relay. I mean that's awesome and
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Chris Master always seems to pull it
out in the Olympics. So impressed,
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and I mean everyone in the at
our wash party here. I mean we
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were jumping up and down, screaming
and clapping and Zack and Sean they pulled
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off. Everything was looking good.
It looks like they were thrown together a
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really nice run and then they just
broke out a little bit in that bending
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straightaway and there was like a half
second of silence, but then they didn't
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crash. And Look, I think
most of besides in that situation are going
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to flip over. Yeah, and
so I was so impressed that they were
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able to save it and and only
came up about five tens back of Canada.
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I mean for their first Olympics,
it's their first real competitive year on
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that double side. So so well
for those guys. Not only that,
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I think this was their first relay
ever as a team. Yeah, they've
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never competed in a relay. So
I didn't even think about that. That's
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very impressive for those guys. Are
So very good. Job To them.
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So we had the really fun opportunity
to coach a screening camp together this week
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along with Dana calog most people who
start and lose, not you, because
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you described our your start, but
most people start by going through the White
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Castle slider search and then talented athletes
get invited to try it for the first
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time in like placid at a screening
camp, and that's exactly what we were
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coaching this week and I had such
a blast. I had a great time.
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It was my first time doing something
like that bringing up the younger kids,
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but it's something I want to do
more of. Yeah, I look
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forward to doing something like that again. Yeah, it was really fun and
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it's it's fun to see it go
full circle. Like we watch the Olympics
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today and then we went out and
coach the little kids and they're just getting
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started on their journey and that's pretty
cool. Yeah, got to see the
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top and the bottom. Yeah,
exactly. Well, you know, thanks
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so much for coming into chat.
I know you're headed off to park city
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next week to do junior nationals and
all that good stuff, so I wish
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you well, have fun, good
luck safe travels. Yeah, thank you
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so much for having me. This
was a lot of fun. Okay,
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awesome. Thanks. It was fun
catching up with Matt and getting to know
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what the future of us a lodge
looks like. He and the other juniors
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will be competing in the junior national
championships in Park City, Utah in the
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coming weeks. Good luck to them
all. Now that the international racing season
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is complete, things will be slowing
down with the podcast. I'd love to
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hear ideas for future podcasts. I
plan on continuing with the history of Luge,
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picking up with that one thousand nine
hundred and eighty and eighty four Olympics.
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If you have any ideas, send
me an email at B Paine at
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US Loge Foundation Dot Org. That's
B Payne at US Loge Foundation Dot Org.
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Thanks for listening to blink, a
podcast about what it takes to win
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or lose race in the blink of
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