Big Rapids: Cross-State Collaboration: No Goshen Movement with Illinois, Lori and Tonya

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Good morning, Big Rapids.
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This is Big Rapids Buzz with Chris Long,
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and Bruce Borkovich is not here today
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and won't be for again a while
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because he's out politicking.
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He's running for supervisor of Big Rapids Township.
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And so we have Lori, Lori Brock on.
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You're going to be the guest co-host today.
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Wow, thank you.
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I'm honored.
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Thanks, Bruce.
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I appreciate you not being here.
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No, no, no, no, no.
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He's doing a good thing.
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He needs to be.
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No, I know.
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He needs not to be on the radio.
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This is true.
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So yeah, Tim Hanna is running against him, Lori.
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Oh my God, that's something.
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That's all I can say.
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That's just something.
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I wish him luck.
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A lot of luck.
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Peace be with you.
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Peace be with you.
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Yup, it's precious.
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So anyway, Lori, you're the guest host
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and we have a special guest on.
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Really special.
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Very special, yes.
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We have Angie from Illinois and she has a special story
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because she's not just connected
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to the Illinois Goshen situation,
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but you also have a house in White Cloud.
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Right.
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Yes.
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So tell us who you are, how you got involved,
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how long you've been in the area.
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Have you always lived in Illinois and then bought a house
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in White Cloud or vice versa?
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How'd that all go?
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Well, my husband and I, we were looking at houses
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in the Holland to Grand Haven area
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because my son lives in Grand Haven.
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And the realtor, she said that she had a property up
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in White Cloud that has snowmobile trails.
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And my husband's ears perked up.
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And so we came out to see it and fell in love
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with the property and we bought it October 21st, 2022.
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Very nice.
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Yes, so for a year and a half.
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Was Lori the realtor?
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No.
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No, I'm sorry.
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Can't get them all.
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Who was the realtor?
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Anybody in this area?
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No.
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Okay, then nevermind.
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She's in Holland.
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Okay, perfect, okay.
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So how did you get involved with the Goshen thing?
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So back in March when we were at home in Illinois,
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my husband and I were watching Tucker Carlson
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and Tudor Dixon came on and started talking
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about this Goshen thing.
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And needless to say, me and my husband's jaws
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dropped to the floor because we had no idea
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about Goshen and the CCP and all that.
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They kept everything quiet, didn't they?
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Yeah.
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So you basically found out about the same time
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we all found out, or at least we all really learned
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more about it other than just what was ever in the pioneer.
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Right, so March of 2023.
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Yep.
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That's right when we found out too, same time.
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So needless to say, shocked, wondering,
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do we make the right choice?
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Moving to White Cloud, or having a house.
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Well, buying a second home in White Cloud.
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Upset, obviously.
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Yeah, because you're downriver.
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Yep, and embarrassed.
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Like we don't want our friends to find out
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that we didn't do our homework.
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So it was.
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You know what, you really didn't have a choice.
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So none of us, even people that lived here,
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had no clue what was happening.
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They, with all their NDAs and their secrecy,
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it was very hard to find out any information
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until it actually hit us.
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So you weren't alone.
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We're all in this together.
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Yes, yes.
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So it was July, early August,
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just perusing around Facebook,
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and somehow I came across the Goshen, no Goshen.
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So I joined in early August.
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Yep.
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And so reading all the posts and everything,
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getting informed.
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So September 6th, it was a Wednesday,
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because Amanda Piker, she's leading the charge.
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She's my co-admin on the no Goshen, Illinois.
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She posted something in the local Mantino page
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regarding the Goshen.
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Kind of like our Ask Big Rapids group, yeah.
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Exactly.
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And for whatever reason,
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because she mentioned Goshen,
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and I'm already on the no Goshen,
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the algorithm, that page just popped up on my Facebook.
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And so I read it, and I immediately notified Amanda.
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I'm like, oh, this is really, really bad.
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Yeah.
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And so I talked to her about what's going on
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up here in Big Rapids, and I said,
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we have to work with Michigan on this,
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because if we fight this alone, we're not gonna win.
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If they fight this alone, they're not gonna win.
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Correct.
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So we need to fight this together
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and show a unified front.
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Yes.
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So I said that.
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That's what they're doing against us.
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They have their unified front mentality
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right out of the Democrat or communist, all of it.
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This is all the same.
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Anyway, their playbook is the unified front,
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so we have to use their stuff against them.
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Exactly, exactly.
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So I said, we need to mimic our Facebook.
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I said, well, can you create a Facebook page?
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Yeah.
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That's what they do in Michigan.
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Mimic it to look like the Michigan page.
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Yeah.
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And what I will do is I will contact the admins
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of the Nogotia, Michigan,
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and tell them what's going on in Mantino.
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She created the page, and I co-admin,
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because I'm not really good at that,
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and she was getting a group of people together,
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because Pritzker was coming to the old Kmart building
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on Friday, September 8th.
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And so I don't live in Mantino.
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I live by Mantino, so I wasn't able to attend
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the protest that she wanted to display in front of Pritzker
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as he was arriving to the old Kmart building,
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because I was up here.
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Right.
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And so she gathered a small group last minute,
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because nobody, I mean, they just literally found out
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about Goshen a day or two before, well,
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like September 4th, September 5th.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So it's like right after Labor Day, I wanna say.
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So I immediately on Thursday contacted Jeannie Ives,
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and she was our representative in the state house.
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About 14 years ago.
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She ran up against Bruce Rauner, primaried him,
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who was the governor before Pritzker,
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and she, that's another story.
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She did not win that primary, Rauner did,
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and she was the governor before Pritzker.
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She did, and Pritzker ended up winning.
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Yeah.
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And so then Jeannie also ran against locally,
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Sean Caston, he is a member of the US Congress,
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and a lot of dirty politics on the Democratic side.
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Oh, of course.
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Oh man, that happens.
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Gee, really?
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You mean that's happening?
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Wow.
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It even happens in Illinois.
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Strange, isn't it?
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No way.
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We've heard this over and over and over.
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I mean, they would take her signs,
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and take black spray paint, and put the C word.
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Oh, don't give the people up here any ideas on the other side.
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Yeah, they do it, they would do it,
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because they do everything.
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They stole our signs and everything.
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Called MDOT on us, tried to get our signs removed.
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I mean, this has been nonstop, the harassment.
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Yeah.
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So knowing that she is still fully vested
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in the political arena, I called her,
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spoke to her assistant, because she was out,
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and turned out she didn't know anything
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about this Goshen thing.
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And then Jeannie was not able to get to the protest on Friday,
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and instead she's been really on the forefront of this.
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I mean, with her Breakthrough Ideas podcast,
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she's on the radio on AM560 every Sunday night.
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So she has been just really wonderful,
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and I'm getting things accomplished.
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She got the Illinois Freedom Caucus involved.
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Wow.
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So that's awesome.
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So that's kinda how it started,
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and then I contacted Tanya.
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Yeah, oh Tanya, love Tanya.
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And told her what was going on,
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and I said, well, we would like to join with you guys.
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It's the only way we're gonna be able to beat them.
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And she absolutely loved the idea.
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So I said, well, I'm coming up to White Cloud next weekend.
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So then we got together with a group of us,
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and then I brought some gals.
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We went to Jimmy's.
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And we went to Jimmy's, good old Jimmy's in New Waco.
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Big group of people, though.
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Yes, we did.
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Both sides coming together, strategizing.
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I think, how long were we there, four or five hours?
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It was quite a long time.
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It was quite a long time.
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It was a good meeting.
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I mean, when you bring people together for a common cause,
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it just empowers you,
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because what we didn't think of, you guys think of.
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And now we actually went from that group
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to getting Marshall involved.
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We're talking to Indiana.
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I mean, there's people down in Florida, over in Maine.
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Texas. Texas, Arizona.
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All over. All reaching out to us now.
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All the time. That's good.
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It's awesome.
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The phone's ringing off the hook.
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We're actually making a,
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you know how they have a plan book,
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how the CCP comes in and takes over.
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Since they're doing that,
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we are also making a playbook as well
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to show people how to fight it.
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Oh, don't tell everybody all our secrets, Lori.
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Oh my goodness. Come on.
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I was just telling Angie, all right.
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Anyway, we're working together to stop this.
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I'll put it that way.
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That's awesome. That's awesome.
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I have a friend in Arizona.
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She said, there's a battery plant in Phoenix area.
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There's a battery plant coming in.
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I'm like, fight it.
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Oh, well, if you want,
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I can co-admin the Facebook group.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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You know, kind of be the kind.
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It's all about getting the word out.
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That's really what it is.
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It's amazing that you guys experienced
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the same thing we experienced
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where you guys were caught off guard.
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All this stuff happens behind closed doors.
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These people that have been in office.
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What do you know more about,
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is there any similarities between the people
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in the Kankakee County Board of Commissioners
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and our Board of Commissioners that what you know?
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Tell us a little bit more about the stuff that they've done
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or doing behind closed doors,
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then we'll parallel and see if there's any commonality.
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You're talking about the?
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Are you talking about county commissioners
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or are you talking about their township?
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Well.
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Either one, I don't know.
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I don't live in Illinois.
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I don't know how it's organized.
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They basically pretty much did everything they did up here.
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So there's really, I don't see any real difference.
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But the Board of Commissioners have voted for it.
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Yeah, everybody voted for it.
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Nobody, well, there's a lot of people.
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Were there NDAs signed?
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I believe so, yes.
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And there's people that are on the board
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that didn't know what they were signing for.
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Signing for or what this was all about.
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And several have come to us and said
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they've regretted their vote.
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And they'll try to help us out.
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Well, actually, that's surprising
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because your people seem to regret their vote
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that were voted for it,
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where our people, they are so arrogant.
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They don't see anything wrong with it.
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Hey, here's a question.
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Do you have a pro-Goshen Illinois group?
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No, we do not.
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We do not have an opposing.
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Really?
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A Goshen group.
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That's amazing.
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There's something going on up here.
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Yeah, that's amazing.
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So there's nobody opposing it or opposing you guys.
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Correct, that would be correct.
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The only people that really showed up,
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I went to this one meeting
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where they actually had somebody from Goshen come.
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And I can't remember when that was.
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I think it was October, November, December,
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something like that.
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I remember it was live streamed.
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And there was people standing.
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It was in a gymnasium.
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There's probably, oh.
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That's when the zoning board, I think, right?
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I believe you're correct.
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I believe you're correct.
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That was also when Robby Dooby came.
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Robby Dooby.
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We got you hooked up with Robby Dooby, I think, didn't we?
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Yes.
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You know, I don't know how that happened.
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We were trying.
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I know that we were trying.
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Let's keep it mysterious.
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Yeah, because there's a funny story about that.
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So yeah, so with that meeting, that zoning meeting,
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there was seven, 800 people.
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Wow.
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The place was packed, standing room only.
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And I kid you not,
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the only people that were for Goshen
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were all the union people.
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They don't even have a union.
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They will, in fact, they're against unions in a huge way.
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Yeah.
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So, because they're supposed to be like the trades
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to get the building up and running, the plumbing,
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the, you know, you can't hire a non-union person.
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Right.
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So those were the people, they didn't even live in Mantino.
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Wow.
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And the union put out a communication,
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like you have to go to this Mantino meeting
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and wear your union, this particular union shirt.
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And I want to say they have them specially made.
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Yeah, they were green.
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Yeah.
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And they had them specially made for the meeting.
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And those were really the only people
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that were for the Goshen things.
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Because they would benefit.
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They would get some sort of job out of it,
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some sort of money.
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A temporary job.
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Yeah.
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Oh, whoop-de-doo.
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All that and make everyone else suffer.
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Exactly, exactly.
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So, fortunately we don't have the
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animosity.
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Drama.
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Both drama, yeah, that's a good word.
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Down in Mantino.
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That's great, I wish it was like that up here.
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Me too.
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But people are arrogant and they are hard-headed
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and they drank the Kool-Aid.
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They drank, well, no, they didn't drink the Kool-Aid.
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They ate the, what is it?
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The powder.
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The powder that Chuck was.
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They lick the powder.
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Powdered Kool-Aid.
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Or the Fun Dip.
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The Fun Dip.
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Yes, Chuck's Fun Dip.
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They had too much of it.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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What was that on the up Chuck with Chuck moment?
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, he's, when he was talking,
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he made some really interesting comments
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at that last meeting comparing the Communist Party
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to the Republican and Democrat Party in the United States.
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Oh, that was the stupidest thing you could say.
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Oh my God.
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The bedroom interview.
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The bedroom interview.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the bedroom.
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Yes, that was.
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This big CEO, the redneck behind the cherry desk
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doing the interview in his bedroom.
399
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Wow, I mean, he couldn't go around a hotel lobby
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or do it from his office that he's telling everybody
401
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that he's got downtown.
402
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He couldn't do that professionally.
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He's gonna do it from his bedroom.
404
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Yeah.
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That was classy.
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That's all I got to say.
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Classy.
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Yeah.
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So do you think that the Communist Party
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is just the same as the Republican?
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No, I do not.
412
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Okay, just checking, just making sure.
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They probably more aligned with Democrats right now.
414
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Yes, yes, for sure.
415
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I'm interested to know if there's any listeners
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other than the obvious people who are listening
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just to get information.
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I'm talking about you, OTG.
419
00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,660
Anyway, I'm wondering if there's anybody
420
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that actually legitimately believes
421
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that the Communists are just the same
422
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as the Republicans and Democrats.
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I would hate to think that anybody could be that dumb,
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00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:35,180
but you know what?
425
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The way I've seen things lately, you never know,
426
00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:38,940
especially in this area for us.
427
00:16:38,940 --> 00:16:42,020
I've seen some really, really, really dumb comments
428
00:16:42,020 --> 00:16:43,860
out of some people that I thought were smart,
429
00:16:43,860 --> 00:16:46,100
and my opinion's completely changed now.
430
00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,540
Yeah, speaking about that,
431
00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:51,940
Lori, did you hear who's running against Tom Coons?
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Oh my God, yes I did.
433
00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:55,660
Couldn't believe it.
434
00:16:55,660 --> 00:16:57,580
Isn't that the McLiar?
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The McLiar.
436
00:16:58,420 --> 00:16:59,260
The McLiar.
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The McRepresentative.
438
00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:01,420
The McRepresentative.
439
00:17:01,420 --> 00:17:02,260
Yeah.
440
00:17:02,260 --> 00:17:03,100
Yep.
441
00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:05,100
I believe she was fired from McDonald's,
442
00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:05,940
but she's gonna run for state rep.
443
00:17:05,940 --> 00:17:07,260
I don't know about that, but I haven't seen.
444
00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:08,100
That's what I heard.
445
00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:11,180
I mean, yeah, I don't know, but I can't imagine,
446
00:17:11,180 --> 00:17:14,140
I imagine Tom's feeling pretty secure in a seat right now.
447
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That's all I can say.
448
00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:17,060
There's two people going up against.
449
00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:17,900
Well.
450
00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:19,300
That wasn't very strategic on their behalf.
451
00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:20,140
Exactly.
452
00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:20,960
Two people from the same group.
453
00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,220
I scratched my head on that one.
454
00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:23,260
Like, why would they do that?
455
00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:27,620
So I'm not, didn't you, Michigan already had the primary.
456
00:17:27,620 --> 00:17:29,260
Right, but there's an August primary.
457
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Oh, there's an August primary.
458
00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:31,340
Yes. Okay.
459
00:17:31,340 --> 00:17:34,100
I'm just now getting into Michigan politics
460
00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:35,540
in the last year,
461
00:17:35,540 --> 00:17:37,820
because eventually we're gonna leave Illinois.
462
00:17:37,820 --> 00:17:40,980
I don't know if Michigan's the place.
463
00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:42,420
I was gonna say, if the ocean comes in,
464
00:17:42,420 --> 00:17:44,380
we might all wanna leave and go somewhere else.
465
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That's true, but you know.
466
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Where are you thinking?
467
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Where should we go?
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I'm on blind faith that.
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That we're gonna win.
470
00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:53,540
Yeah, we're gonna win.
471
00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:54,380
We're gonna win.
472
00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:55,220
Yeah.
473
00:17:55,220 --> 00:17:56,060
No doubt.
474
00:17:56,060 --> 00:17:56,880
I'm sure.
475
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We'll prevail.
476
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When can you guys replace your people?
477
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2025.
478
00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:04,500
You have to wait a whole nother year.
479
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:05,340
Yes.
480
00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:06,160
Oh boy.
481
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,380
You can't recall anyone either.
482
00:18:07,380 --> 00:18:08,220
No.
483
00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:10,140
Illinois law prevents that.
484
00:18:10,140 --> 00:18:10,980
Correct.
485
00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:11,800
Wow.
486
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:12,640
Oh, I, you know what?
487
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I bet you, I bet you, you know who's
488
00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:16,860
when she gets into the state Congress,
489
00:18:16,860 --> 00:18:18,460
if she tries to, or if she does.
490
00:18:18,460 --> 00:18:20,380
Oh, she'll have that so you can't recall them too.
491
00:18:20,380 --> 00:18:21,820
Yeah, she'll probably do that.
492
00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:23,380
So we shouldn't be giving her ideas.
493
00:18:23,380 --> 00:18:25,380
She's probably not thinking for herself.
494
00:18:25,380 --> 00:18:26,980
Probably being told what to do anyway.
495
00:18:26,980 --> 00:18:28,780
Yeah, this is true.
496
00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:29,620
This is true.
497
00:18:29,620 --> 00:18:31,980
And then the other person, did you hear?
498
00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:33,540
Oh my God.
499
00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:36,780
The other one, her platform I guess she's running on
500
00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:39,500
is legalizing prostitution.
501
00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:42,580
Now there's something you wanna run with, you know.
502
00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:44,320
Tom honestly has to be laughing.
503
00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,780
He's gotta be going, oh my God, I got this in the bag.
504
00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:48,060
Tom has to be laughing.
505
00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:48,900
This is just.
506
00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:49,720
We're laughing.
507
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,560
We're laughing about it.
508
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,400
I'm like, come on.
509
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,240
This is absurd.
510
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,060
Prostitution.
511
00:18:53,060 --> 00:18:53,900
What was the other one?
512
00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:54,740
Strippers and dancers.
513
00:18:54,740 --> 00:18:55,740
Strippers and ballerinas.
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00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:57,180
Ballerinas should be considered
515
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and respected the same way.
516
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Yeah, yeah.
517
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Really two good platforms, I don't know.
518
00:19:00,860 --> 00:19:01,780
We got the proof.
519
00:19:01,780 --> 00:19:02,620
It's right there.
520
00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:03,460
She was talking about it.
521
00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:05,820
Then there was something else that happened
522
00:19:05,820 --> 00:19:07,140
with the GoFundMe or whatever.
523
00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:09,300
Oh yeah, I guess she had a GoFundMe page
524
00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:11,460
just recently too because she didn't have enough money
525
00:19:11,460 --> 00:19:13,460
for food for her family.
526
00:19:13,460 --> 00:19:15,940
But I guess she doesn't realize what it cost to run for.
527
00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:16,780
Exactly.
528
00:19:16,780 --> 00:19:17,620
I'm amazed.
529
00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:19,060
What the heck is going on?
530
00:19:19,060 --> 00:19:21,020
These people are deranged.
531
00:19:21,020 --> 00:19:22,060
It doesn't make sense.
532
00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:24,820
That's why I'm saying this is like a really bad dream
533
00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:27,220
where you go up and no way is that happening.
534
00:19:27,220 --> 00:19:29,620
Look back at this and just laugh.
535
00:19:29,620 --> 00:19:30,660
It should be a movie.
536
00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:32,500
It should be a movie.
537
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:34,220
It's too much stuff for a movie
538
00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:35,820
and this needs to be a TV show.
539
00:19:36,740 --> 00:19:37,860
Like a Netflix series.
540
00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:38,860
Eight part series.
541
00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:39,820
Oh, there's more than that.
542
00:19:39,820 --> 00:19:43,980
There's a multi-season stuff.
543
00:19:43,980 --> 00:19:45,620
There's a whole prequel season.
544
00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:48,500
And it could spin off in many different ways
545
00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:52,300
because of the different people and their personalities
546
00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:53,140
and backgrounds.
547
00:19:53,140 --> 00:19:54,340
Oh yeah.
548
00:19:54,340 --> 00:19:56,940
It would make for interesting watch, that's for sure.
549
00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:58,620
That is for sure.
550
00:19:58,620 --> 00:20:00,180
So, oh go ahead.
551
00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:01,820
Oh, I was just gonna say,
552
00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:05,280
I like to call myself the Mackinac Bridge.
553
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,120
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true.
554
00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:08,700
Because I'm bridging Illinois and Michigan.
555
00:20:08,700 --> 00:20:10,060
That's nice, that's good.
556
00:20:10,060 --> 00:20:10,900
That's really good.
557
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:11,720
On the bridge.
558
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,560
Yes, you are.
559
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,980
Because I'm affected in both places.
560
00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:15,820
Yes, you are.
561
00:20:15,820 --> 00:20:17,300
Not only in Illinois.
562
00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:18,660
Double affected.
563
00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:20,100
I'm also affected in White Cloud.
564
00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:20,940
Yes, yeah.
565
00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:25,460
And I have the sign in my, at both houses.
566
00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:27,620
I have the Michigan sign in both houses.
567
00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:28,460
That's great.
568
00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:29,540
That is awesome.
569
00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:31,380
You know, I don't know where this came from.
570
00:20:31,380 --> 00:20:32,220
Has anyone sold your sign yet?
571
00:20:32,220 --> 00:20:34,020
No, they don't know where I live.
572
00:20:34,020 --> 00:20:35,980
And they're not gonna travel out to Illinois.
573
00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:39,060
You know, you know what I thought was interesting
574
00:20:39,060 --> 00:20:41,420
is somebody, I don't know who it could have been,
575
00:20:41,420 --> 00:20:43,100
but somebody put a no Goshen sign
576
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,860
on the Goshen property in California.
577
00:20:45,860 --> 00:20:46,700
I was loving that.
578
00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:49,700
Oh, I thought that was beautiful.
579
00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:50,540
That was awesome.
580
00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:52,740
I sent that sign out there to some people.
581
00:20:52,740 --> 00:20:53,580
Oh, did you?
582
00:20:53,580 --> 00:20:54,420
And they put it out?
583
00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:55,260
That was awesome.
584
00:20:55,260 --> 00:20:56,340
That was awesome.
585
00:20:56,340 --> 00:20:58,700
I bet they were angry about that,
586
00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,140
but what a great picture.
587
00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:01,580
I was so proud.
588
00:21:01,580 --> 00:21:03,160
I'm like, you go, yeah.
589
00:21:04,540 --> 00:21:07,300
Oh, that was, yes, that was definitely well planned.
590
00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:09,720
Yeah, and the other thing is,
591
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,420
I told Amanda that we need to have signs, yard signs.
592
00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:14,260
Yes.
593
00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:16,820
We have to match the Michigan ones.
594
00:21:16,820 --> 00:21:17,660
Yes.
595
00:21:17,660 --> 00:21:18,480
Oh, that was perfect.
596
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,820
So the only difference is,
597
00:21:22,820 --> 00:21:24,180
Illinois says Mantino on it.
598
00:21:24,180 --> 00:21:25,020
Yeah, yeah.
599
00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:26,740
But that's the only difference.
600
00:21:26,740 --> 00:21:28,660
So I really wanted to.
601
00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:32,460
Combining and unifying us as a group.
602
00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:34,020
And that's good because, you know,
603
00:21:34,020 --> 00:21:36,540
how many people do you think are in Mancino?
604
00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:37,380
A Mantino?
605
00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:38,260
A Mantino, I'm sorry.
606
00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:39,100
Oh.
607
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:40,380
Is it not Mancino's Pizza Place?
608
00:21:40,380 --> 00:21:41,220
I know, I'm hungry.
609
00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:42,780
That's what I'm thinking, you know.
610
00:21:42,780 --> 00:21:44,980
It's only 8.30 in the morning.
611
00:21:44,980 --> 00:21:48,120
Oh my God, I like their breakfast burritos, right?
612
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,060
I've never had it.
613
00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:52,500
They may not have it.
614
00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:53,340
What are you talking about?
615
00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:54,160
I don't know.
616
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,700
I forgot how early it was.
617
00:21:57,380 --> 00:21:58,220
Anyway.
618
00:21:59,180 --> 00:22:03,260
Well, it's a small, well, it's bigger than White Cloud.
619
00:22:03,260 --> 00:22:04,100
Yeah.
620
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:04,920
Okay.
621
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,040
And how many is in Big Rapids?
622
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,580
We're probably about, what, three, 4,000 people
623
00:22:09,580 --> 00:22:12,140
in Green Township, and then Big Rapids has what?
624
00:22:12,140 --> 00:22:13,300
12,000-ish?
625
00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:15,780
Depends on whether you count the school or not.
626
00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:16,700
Yeah, 10 iffy.
627
00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:17,540
With school, there's a lot of kids.
628
00:22:17,540 --> 00:22:19,340
There's 44,000 in the county.
629
00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:20,180
Yeah.
630
00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:21,000
Okay.
631
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,740
Yeah, Mantino's not as big as 34,000.
632
00:22:23,740 --> 00:22:24,580
But you know what?
633
00:22:24,580 --> 00:22:25,400
But 44.
634
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,240
44?
635
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,080
Yeah.
636
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:27,900
44,000, yeah, no.
637
00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:29,020
Really, Mantino's smaller.
638
00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:29,860
Oh yeah.
639
00:22:29,860 --> 00:22:31,340
Oh, I was thinking,
640
00:22:31,340 --> 00:22:33,500
I've been watching those kinky, towny.
641
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:34,340
They're huge.
642
00:22:34,340 --> 00:22:37,180
They got like 50 representatives in there.
643
00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:38,740
You were just asking for the Mantino,
644
00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:39,660
the town of Mantino.
645
00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:40,500
Oh, you're talking about, oh.
646
00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:41,660
That's what you asked me.
647
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:42,500
Yes, you did.
648
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,340
Yeah, I did.
649
00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:44,380
Yeah, that's right.
650
00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:45,580
How big is Kanky?
651
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:47,340
Kanky?
652
00:22:47,340 --> 00:22:48,160
Kinky?
653
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,000
Yeah.
654
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,420
Oh, I would say it's probably about equal to this,
655
00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:53,260
this county.
656
00:22:53,260 --> 00:22:54,100
Well, cool.
657
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,340
And how do they have so many representatives
658
00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:56,500
in those county meetings?
659
00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,740
Well, you know, Illinois has the most politicians,
660
00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:04,060
or most, help me out here.
661
00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:05,140
Delegates, or?
662
00:23:05,140 --> 00:23:10,020
Not delegates, but we have way too many levels
663
00:23:10,020 --> 00:23:11,620
of government in Illinois.
664
00:23:11,620 --> 00:23:14,380
Yeah, because I'm watching these live streams,
665
00:23:14,380 --> 00:23:16,500
and you got the guy in the center,
666
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:21,500
who's, I think he was part of the development corporation
667
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:22,700
down there.
668
00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:24,340
The last time I checked was when they were trying
669
00:23:24,340 --> 00:23:27,200
to buy the property by the river,
670
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,620
and there was like four rows of,
671
00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:32,100
with five or six people in them,
672
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:33,060
all with microphones,
673
00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:36,380
and they're all county delegates, or something,
674
00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:37,220
and they're all voting,
675
00:23:37,220 --> 00:23:39,940
and there was like 30 people in the room total
676
00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:42,420
that were voting while in the way back of the room
677
00:23:42,420 --> 00:23:44,700
was the constituents.
678
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,340
And like, how is that set up?
679
00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:47,180
That's a lot.
680
00:23:47,180 --> 00:23:48,300
Yeah, what?
681
00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:50,940
Like I said, we have way too many levels
682
00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:53,220
of government in Illinois,
683
00:23:53,220 --> 00:23:56,020
and hence why our taxes are so high.
684
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,880
And along with that, we have one of the states
685
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,820
with the most school districts.
686
00:24:03,820 --> 00:24:04,820
Oh.
687
00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:07,500
So you compare that to Florida,
688
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:10,380
where I think they have like 70 school districts,
689
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:11,940
we have like 500.
690
00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:12,780
Oh wow.
691
00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:13,600
Wow.
692
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,300
Just giving out at the top.
693
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:19,280
But we have the most levels of government
694
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,940
that are unnecessary.
695
00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:21,780
Wow.
696
00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:22,600
I gotcha.
697
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,700
Now, when just, I was just kind of curious
698
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:26,780
on your insight on this.
699
00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:28,580
When you've been fighting it,
700
00:24:28,580 --> 00:24:31,500
have you noticed that the people that are for it
701
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,300
are getting something out of it?
702
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:34,880
Or do you think they honestly think
703
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,180
that this is gonna help?
704
00:24:36,180 --> 00:24:40,940
Because we kind of were given the impression of one thing,
705
00:24:40,940 --> 00:24:44,180
and then as it's gone through, that one thing has changed.
706
00:24:44,180 --> 00:24:46,060
They said, you know, you need jobs.
707
00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:47,020
Well, we don't need jobs.
708
00:24:47,020 --> 00:24:49,380
We had 1800 jobs available here.
709
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:52,580
They said, oh, we're gonna get paid 62,000 a year.
710
00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:53,420
Well, they're not.
711
00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:56,120
It's down to $24 an hour average.
712
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,580
It's like one lie after another after another,
713
00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:01,540
as it's kind of coming to a truition sort of thing.
714
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:02,500
What?
715
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,740
Go answer that question, then I got a follow up, sorry.
716
00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:09,420
Okay, you know, the only, like I said,
717
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:14,420
there's really not citizen pushback like it is here.
718
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,940
So if.
719
00:25:15,940 --> 00:25:17,860
Well, then the elected officials that are pushing it,
720
00:25:17,860 --> 00:25:19,620
what are they saying?
721
00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:22,060
Oh, well, of course, it's gonna bring jobs
722
00:25:22,060 --> 00:25:25,580
and it's gonna bring innovation and.
723
00:25:25,580 --> 00:25:28,660
How is the manufacturing plant going to bring innovation?
724
00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:29,980
It's not an engineering center.
725
00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:30,980
I don't get it.
726
00:25:30,980 --> 00:25:34,220
Yeah, oh, we're gonna improve the process a little bit.
727
00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:37,060
Well, Christopher wants us to make Illinois
728
00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:39,460
the battery belt.
729
00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:42,820
Isn't that what our witchmer is doing?
730
00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:45,340
Pretty much, and we're fighting back
731
00:25:45,340 --> 00:25:46,260
because we don't want that.
732
00:25:46,260 --> 00:25:49,500
Oh, well, Mantino's fighting back.
733
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:51,340
Unfortunately, Belvedere.
734
00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:52,240
Where's Belvedere?
735
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,080
This is a great one.
736
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,580
Belvedere is by Rockford.
737
00:25:54,580 --> 00:25:56,040
Okay, not Rockford here.
738
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,880
Oh, okay.
739
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,380
I was like, what are you talking about?
740
00:25:58,380 --> 00:25:59,820
You know Belvedere.
741
00:25:59,820 --> 00:26:00,980
Rockford, Illinois.
742
00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:01,820
Okay.
743
00:26:01,820 --> 00:26:04,140
Okay, so it's north.
744
00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:04,980
Okay.
745
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:05,820
We're almost to Wisconsin.
746
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:06,640
Okay.
747
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,540
Okay, that's so that Belvedere plant,
748
00:26:09,540 --> 00:26:12,220
and I forget, I think it was a Chrysler.
749
00:26:12,220 --> 00:26:13,460
I could be wrong.
750
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:18,420
So if somebody says that I'm giving out fake information,
751
00:26:18,420 --> 00:26:19,540
I'm not, I just can't remember,
752
00:26:19,540 --> 00:26:22,780
but I wanna say it was Chrysler at one point,
753
00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:26,820
and then maybe it turned over to another car company.
754
00:26:26,820 --> 00:26:31,540
And then they laid off and closed the plant,
755
00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,800
and now this battery plant came in.
756
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,700
And I was remembering when I was watching.
757
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,380
Another battery plant?
758
00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:39,620
No, no, this is the first battery plant.
759
00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:40,880
What do you mean?
760
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,040
Goshen II?
761
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,860
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, different.
762
00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:44,700
Different battery.
763
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:45,540
Completely different, I think.
764
00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:46,820
Oh, so there's another battery plant.
765
00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:48,340
Yeah.
766
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:51,500
So they, I remember watching Biden's
767
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,480
State of the Union address,
768
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,920
and he brought up the Belvedere plant,
769
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,800
and he said there's gonna be 1200 jobs,
770
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,160
or 1500 jobs, something like that.
771
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,740
And I'm like, wait a second, scratching my head.
772
00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:10,740
And I researched, well, they just laid off 1200 people.
773
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:13,580
Right, so it's not really 1200 jobs,
774
00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:17,220
it's just hiring back the same 1200 that they lost.
775
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:21,320
Right, I believe the layoff was February last year.
776
00:27:22,620 --> 00:27:23,740
And he said it this year?
777
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:25,580
Yeah, he just said it the last year.
778
00:27:25,580 --> 00:27:26,940
I didn't even watch his speech,
779
00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:27,780
because it's like why?
780
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:30,260
I couldn't watch it either, it made me sick.
781
00:27:30,260 --> 00:27:32,260
I find that very enjoyable.
782
00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:36,260
Because I'm waiting, I just want to see
783
00:27:36,260 --> 00:27:38,180
if he gets through it, you know?
784
00:27:38,180 --> 00:27:39,020
Or falls asleep.
785
00:27:39,020 --> 00:27:41,180
Or what he's gonna do, wanders off, mumbles.
786
00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:42,020
Yeah, yeah.
787
00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:42,860
It is interesting.
788
00:27:42,860 --> 00:27:43,700
Sniffs anybody?
789
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:44,540
Sniffs anybody.
790
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:48,380
I was waiting for some, who was it, McCarthy?
791
00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:50,660
Or, no, it was Johnson.
792
00:27:50,660 --> 00:27:51,500
Yeah.
793
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:52,320
I was waiting for him to rip up the-
794
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,660
Oh, I wish he would have, but you're not supposed to.
795
00:27:54,660 --> 00:27:56,480
It's a government document.
796
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,780
You're not supposed to do what Pelosi did.
797
00:27:58,780 --> 00:27:59,620
Right.
798
00:27:59,620 --> 00:28:01,980
But you know, his facial expressions were priceless.
799
00:28:01,980 --> 00:28:02,820
Yes, yes.
800
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:03,640
I was laughing.
801
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,480
I did watch the TikToks of those.
802
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,900
I did too, I did too.
803
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:06,900
That's what I watched.
804
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:08,540
Yup, that was awesome.
805
00:28:08,540 --> 00:28:12,300
Well, Lori and I are talking to Angie from Illinois,
806
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:14,260
and we're gonna continue this conversation
807
00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:16,620
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808
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809
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810
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00:28:27,540 --> 00:28:29,540
So we have Lori, the co-host,
812
00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:32,700
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813
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,460
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814
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:36,020
that just walked into the radio station.
815
00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:37,820
We have Tanya.
816
00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:41,220
Oh my God, not the infamous Tanya, right?
817
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:42,060
Oh, but it is.
818
00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:42,900
Oh, it is.
819
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:43,740
Oh, it is.
820
00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:44,580
Oh, it is.
821
00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:45,420
Oh, it is.
822
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Oh, it is.
823
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:47,080
Oh, it is.
824
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,920
Oh, it is.
825
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Oh, it is.
826
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,580
Oh, it is.
827
00:28:49,580 --> 00:28:50,420
Oh, it is.
828
00:28:50,420 --> 00:28:51,260
Oh, it is.
829
00:28:51,260 --> 00:28:52,080
Oh, it is.
830
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,920
Hello, hello.
831
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:53,760
Hello.
832
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,940
Hello.
833
00:28:54,940 --> 00:28:57,500
You are Ms. No Goshen.
834
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:58,340
I am.
835
00:28:58,340 --> 00:29:00,100
You're the one who started the group.
836
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,080
I am.
837
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,420
How did that start?
838
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,700
Actually, if y'all remember,
839
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:10,140
it started when All Things Goshen was on,
840
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:13,220
and then they couldn't handle the people that they had.
841
00:29:13,220 --> 00:29:16,220
I mean, there was only like a measly 800,
842
00:29:16,220 --> 00:29:19,780
but apparently those admin could not handle us,
843
00:29:19,780 --> 00:29:21,380
so they shut it down.
844
00:29:21,380 --> 00:29:23,700
Then remarkably, I got a phone call
845
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:27,460
from a gentleman by the name of Thomas Gray.
846
00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:33,540
He asked me if I would create a group
847
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:36,820
for everybody to be able to have a voice,
848
00:29:36,820 --> 00:29:38,540
and that's when it all started.
849
00:29:38,540 --> 00:29:41,640
Oh, I can just hear now a coming on
850
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,860
and making a post about,
851
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:44,860
oh, look, she didn't even start it herself.
852
00:29:44,860 --> 00:29:47,140
She got told by people from the outside
853
00:29:47,140 --> 00:29:48,020
to start the group.
854
00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:48,860
Oh my gosh.
855
00:29:48,860 --> 00:29:50,660
Ah!
856
00:29:50,660 --> 00:29:52,620
And then I'm gonna have to say to her,
857
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:56,340
well, at least my people are real and they're brilliant.
858
00:29:56,340 --> 00:29:57,380
What do you got?
859
00:29:57,380 --> 00:29:59,420
Good point.
860
00:30:00,740 --> 00:30:02,660
There's not like eight or nine different personas
861
00:30:02,660 --> 00:30:03,780
for the same person.
862
00:30:03,780 --> 00:30:05,380
That seems to be a lot what's going on
863
00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:08,100
on the Only Things Goshen page.
864
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:10,860
Well, yeah, they don't wanna stand behind
865
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:13,420
who they really are, so they gotta pretend like they.
866
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:15,660
Who's this Mark A.W.?
867
00:30:15,660 --> 00:30:16,980
Oh, and the anonymous.
868
00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:18,660
There's a lot of anonymous.
869
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:20,900
Oh man, a lot of people that don't wanna talk.
870
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:21,780
They wanna talk a lot,
871
00:30:21,780 --> 00:30:23,540
but they don't wanna say who they are.
872
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,800
You can't really stand behind any words
873
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,220
if you don't say who the person is that's saying them.
874
00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:32,200
Tanya, did you hear about Tracy Ruel
875
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,580
running against Tom Coons?
876
00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:36,580
I heard about that, and I literally,
877
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:39,720
and I am not at all lying here, guys.
878
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,780
I was sitting in my living room and my chair,
879
00:30:43,780 --> 00:30:46,140
and I saw that, and I literally,
880
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:48,140
out of laughing, I fell out of it.
881
00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:48,980
No!
882
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:53,820
I did.
883
00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:57,500
I'm like, she's just done lost her mind.
884
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:01,060
Wait a minute, she lost her mind a long time ago.
885
00:31:01,060 --> 00:31:02,740
We're aware of that.
886
00:31:02,740 --> 00:31:06,340
But she is a Democrat going up against a Republican,
887
00:31:06,340 --> 00:31:08,420
seriously, that has way more experience
888
00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:09,620
than she'll ever have.
889
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:11,500
She had a lot of experience at some job, though,
890
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:12,340
didn't she?
891
00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:13,160
McDonald's.
892
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,180
McDonald's, I heard, but I heard that she wasn't very nice.
893
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,460
That's what I heard, too.
894
00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:21,500
I heard she was rather bossy.
895
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:23,100
Yeah, well, that's kind of, well.
896
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,100
Imagine that.
897
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,260
Imagine that, exactly.
898
00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:28,580
You know, when you stop and you think about it,
899
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:30,180
I wonder how many happy meals it took
900
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:31,780
for her to take down in a day.
901
00:31:31,780 --> 00:31:33,100
What?
902
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:33,940
You do what?
903
00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:35,420
Say that again.
904
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:37,380
I wonder how many happy meals it took
905
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:39,500
for her to take down in a day.
906
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:41,100
Happy meal.
907
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:43,340
Oh, okay.
908
00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:44,180
Okay.
909
00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:47,420
Apparently, you know, they call them happy meals
910
00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:49,820
for the children, correct?
911
00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:50,940
Yeah.
912
00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:53,500
Okay, so if you have five children,
913
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,380
you're making five children happy.
914
00:31:55,380 --> 00:31:56,220
Okay.
915
00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:58,540
So how many children do you think Tracy is?
916
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:01,140
I don't know.
917
00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:03,700
Maybe 100.
918
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:04,540
100.
919
00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:06,060
And yet she's still not happy.
920
00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:10,980
Wise words of Tanya.
921
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:12,060
That's right.
922
00:32:13,540 --> 00:32:16,180
Serve more happy meals, Tracy.
923
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:19,100
How many more happy meals does she need to become happy?
924
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,740
A lot, a lot.
925
00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:23,420
There isn't gonna be enough to make her happy.
926
00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:26,380
Now she's left, so now she's going commie.
927
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:31,700
Angie, how did you meet Tanya?
928
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:32,740
Well.
929
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:33,580
Well.
930
00:32:34,860 --> 00:32:39,860
Because I wanted our Facebook page to mimic the Michigan one,
931
00:32:39,860 --> 00:32:44,860
I reached out to her and Tanya, you could take over.
932
00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:45,780
Yeah.
933
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:49,100
You have a better memory than I do.
934
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:52,500
Angie reached out to me through Messenger.
935
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:55,500
Apparently she must have saw my no-go-shin
936
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:59,220
and she saw the beautiful signs that Lori has.
937
00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:04,220
So she asked if I had a problem with her using our name,
938
00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:07,140
no-go-shin, but then put Illinois at the end of it.
939
00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:07,980
Yeah.
940
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:10,260
And she's like, oh, go ahead, absolutely.
941
00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:15,260
And then she asked if she could use one of Lori's signs
942
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:19,660
so that people, and I'm like, sure, go ahead.
943
00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:21,540
And so that's how it all began,
944
00:33:21,540 --> 00:33:25,020
and here we are a year later.
945
00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:27,580
And eight months. Eight months now.
946
00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:31,260
Oh yeah, you're like a few months behind us.
947
00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:33,740
But to me, it's a year.
948
00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:35,060
Yeah. Okay.
949
00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:36,860
Has it been a good year?
950
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:38,780
With all the people that I have met,
951
00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:43,780
I have to say that is the one great thing out of this.
952
00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:44,820
Yeah.
953
00:33:44,820 --> 00:33:47,380
Is all the beautiful people that I have met.
954
00:33:47,380 --> 00:33:49,820
Anything else about any of that,
955
00:33:49,820 --> 00:33:53,260
and that ain't beautiful, no, that's disgusting.
956
00:33:53,260 --> 00:33:54,580
But Angie is beautiful.
957
00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:55,820
Oh, thank you. Yes, she is.
958
00:33:55,820 --> 00:33:56,660
Thank you.
959
00:33:56,660 --> 00:34:01,460
So how many, have you had the same experience
960
00:34:01,460 --> 00:34:03,420
down in Illinois where it's brought a lot of people
961
00:34:03,420 --> 00:34:05,740
you've never known or brought the community together
962
00:34:05,740 --> 00:34:08,620
that people never, so it has worked that way.
963
00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:09,460
Oh yes.
964
00:34:09,460 --> 00:34:12,060
So I guess we all can say thank you to Goshen
965
00:34:12,060 --> 00:34:13,300
for bringing us together.
966
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:14,740
Yes. Oh, absolutely.
967
00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:16,020
Thank you, Goshen. Yeah, absolutely.
968
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,140
Thank you, Chuck.
969
00:34:17,140 --> 00:34:18,620
Yeah.
970
00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:20,580
Yes, absolutely.
971
00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:23,740
You know, I was wondering,
972
00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:27,580
are you dealing with the same down in Illinois
973
00:34:27,580 --> 00:34:30,700
that we are here with the divide?
974
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:31,740
No.
975
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:33,660
Yeah, we already asked for that in part one
976
00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:34,980
before the commercial break.
977
00:34:34,980 --> 00:34:35,820
They don't have pro-Goshen.
978
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:39,140
Yeah, she literally just told us in part one
979
00:34:39,140 --> 00:34:43,140
that she has nobody that's for Goshen
980
00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:44,180
that's promoting Goshen
981
00:34:44,180 --> 00:34:45,940
other than the elected officials over there.
982
00:34:45,940 --> 00:34:48,420
And there's a bunch of elected officials down there
983
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,980
that don't like their vote.
984
00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:52,860
They wish they voted differently.
985
00:34:52,860 --> 00:34:56,260
They're unlike up here, they're apologetic.
986
00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:57,220
At least they learned. Wow.
987
00:34:57,220 --> 00:34:58,060
You know what I mean?
988
00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:00,500
And I can understand how at first.
989
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:05,100
So, Amanda, what they're telling me is everybody down there
990
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:09,220
through this or Angie, I just told you, Amanda.
991
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:10,940
I knew what you meant.
992
00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:15,140
So down in Illinois, you guys don't have pros.
993
00:35:15,140 --> 00:35:16,860
No. That are targeting you.
994
00:35:16,860 --> 00:35:18,940
Nope. Digging up everybody's.
995
00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:21,700
Well, I'm going to that would be a better question for Amanda.
996
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:26,700
I think she and some people that are very vocal have.
997
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:29,980
They've been tried to just be silenced.
998
00:35:29,980 --> 00:35:31,140
Yeah. Yeah.
999
00:35:31,140 --> 00:35:32,580
But by elected officials.
1000
00:35:32,580 --> 00:35:36,180
I would say it would be by elected officials or yeah.
1001
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:38,820
But there's no like group organized group.
1002
00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:40,700
No, there's no pro goes.
1003
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:42,060
Yeah. You're lucky.
1004
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:43,260
You're very, very lucky.
1005
00:35:43,260 --> 00:35:45,260
Yeah. That's what I was just about ready to say,
1006
00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:48,980
because you know, it's fine to have your opinion,
1007
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:53,980
but it's not fine for what the pro goes are doing to us.
1008
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:56,980
Condemning people, trying to slander people.
1009
00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,380
There's so many things that they do
1010
00:35:58,380 --> 00:36:01,500
that are just not truthful and it's very frustrating.
1011
00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:03,340
So you're lucky you don't have those people.
1012
00:36:03,340 --> 00:36:04,300
Yeah. Yeah.
1013
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:07,060
And the other thing I have to say is that you're very lucky
1014
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:12,060
that you don't have people that don't live in the community,
1015
00:36:12,780 --> 00:36:15,060
but yet they want to tell you how to live.
1016
00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:19,460
Well, she has the union people that were at one meeting
1017
00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:21,060
that wanted to have Goshen,
1018
00:36:21,060 --> 00:36:23,660
but they didn't even live in the area.
1019
00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:24,780
They were there for money.
1020
00:36:24,780 --> 00:36:26,260
I mean, that's the thing.
1021
00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:27,940
That's pretty typical though.
1022
00:36:27,940 --> 00:36:30,380
The people that are pro Goshen are there
1023
00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:32,020
because they're being offered something
1024
00:36:32,020 --> 00:36:37,020
or be it money or jobs or status or something.
1025
00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:40,540
So Tanya, up here, obviously there's the pro goes saying,
1026
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:42,060
oh, it's the jobs, the jobs, the jobs.
1027
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:44,900
And the elected officials are saying that up here,
1028
00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:47,460
but down there, it's just the elected officials saying,
1029
00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:48,780
oh, who brings so many jobs?
1030
00:36:48,780 --> 00:36:50,660
Yeah, there's really not the pushback.
1031
00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:53,580
You might have maybe one or two citizens that.
1032
00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:55,180
You guys are pushing back, but there's no.
1033
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:56,020
Right.
1034
00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:57,860
There's no opposition to the opposition.
1035
00:36:57,860 --> 00:36:58,860
Correct, correct.
1036
00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:02,940
There's no, I'm sure there's probably a pro go citizen
1037
00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:07,620
here or there, but considering that they want to open
1038
00:37:07,620 --> 00:37:12,340
this Goshen within a very short distance of schools,
1039
00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:14,740
your residential and a senior center,
1040
00:37:15,780 --> 00:37:19,260
that is alarming.
1041
00:37:19,260 --> 00:37:21,900
And also it would be next to.
1042
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:25,460
The concrete.
1043
00:37:25,460 --> 00:37:28,140
The concrete, thank you, where there are explosions.
1044
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:29,580
Yeah, the concrete facility.
1045
00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:31,140
So you had that.
1046
00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:34,460
And apparently some years ago, there was an explosion
1047
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:38,620
that threw some stuff over to the Kmart roof
1048
00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:39,780
and damaged the roof.
1049
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:40,940
And it's still damaged.
1050
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:42,220
And it's still damaged.
1051
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:43,060
Yeah.
1052
00:37:43,060 --> 00:37:43,880
So.
1053
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,460
So imagine that, Mr. Chuck, your closed loop system
1054
00:37:48,460 --> 00:37:51,260
and can't have oxygen and have a big old piece of concrete
1055
00:37:51,260 --> 00:37:55,100
coming through and disrupting your process
1056
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,820
makes a lot of sense to put it there real real smart.
1057
00:37:57,820 --> 00:38:02,820
Of course, within a short distance of an elementary school.
1058
00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:03,820
And that's.
1059
00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:06,500
That's scary because of all the taxons and stuff
1060
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:08,020
that they're gonna be handling too.
1061
00:38:08,020 --> 00:38:10,220
Who wants to be near that or have your children near that?
1062
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:12,060
And that's probably why all this NDA,
1063
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:16,300
because obviously people would be pushed back on it
1064
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,540
if they knew about it sooner.
1065
00:38:18,540 --> 00:38:19,680
I have a question.
1066
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,580
Down in Mantino, do you guys have in your township
1067
00:38:23,580 --> 00:38:25,700
a business operating on the basement
1068
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:27,620
of your township hall or city hall?
1069
00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:31,740
No, I don't believe we do.
1070
00:38:31,740 --> 00:38:33,140
You mean that doesn't happen everywhere?
1071
00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:34,060
Yeah, that's really.
1072
00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:36,340
I was just gonna say, I thought that's what happened
1073
00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:37,540
at everybody's local town.
1074
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:40,300
Oh, because ours has a business in the basement
1075
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:42,060
that no one really knew about until now.
1076
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:43,180
It's kind of weird.
1077
00:38:43,180 --> 00:38:45,380
How do you get your internet?
1078
00:38:45,380 --> 00:38:46,300
Comcast.
1079
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:47,260
Yeah.
1080
00:38:47,260 --> 00:38:48,100
Normal, yeah.
1081
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,100
Yeah, normally I think that's the biggest provider.
1082
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:55,100
The hokey-poke guy living out of wherever.
1083
00:38:55,820 --> 00:38:56,660
No.
1084
00:38:57,660 --> 00:39:00,180
Tanya, what do you have to say?
1085
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:03,980
I just feel sorry for them, because you know what?
1086
00:39:03,980 --> 00:39:08,420
If you have to go and manipulate people
1087
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:12,680
just to get your junk that you call internet,
1088
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,120
use our money to get your towers or tower.
1089
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,380
Towers, there's three.
1090
00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:19,220
Towers.
1091
00:39:19,220 --> 00:39:22,800
Wow, so there you go, three towers.
1092
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:26,180
And think that you own it.
1093
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:27,660
I mean, it's sickening.
1094
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:29,180
It's just really sickening.
1095
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:30,020
Yeah.
1096
00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:30,900
They're horrible people.
1097
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:31,980
Well, we were looking for money
1098
00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:33,860
that was supposed to be coming back to the township.
1099
00:39:33,860 --> 00:39:34,700
I didn't see any.
1100
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:38,100
Well, yeah, I heard it was in the sum of like a million plus.
1101
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:38,940
Yeah.
1102
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:39,780
That it costs to put it there.
1103
00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,260
Yeah, and between all the towers and all the money
1104
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:45,180
that's been spent on that crappy company.
1105
00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:47,100
And they never had good internet to begin with.
1106
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:47,940
Right.
1107
00:39:47,940 --> 00:39:48,780
It was such a ripoff.
1108
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:52,860
And even there was a post or something years ago,
1109
00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:55,940
I think around 2019 or 2020 when they started expanding.
1110
00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:58,220
And after it was built,
1111
00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:00,220
it was something along the lines of,
1112
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:02,180
someone wrote an article about,
1113
00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:04,180
well, it's kind of slow or something like that.
1114
00:40:04,180 --> 00:40:05,900
And he goes, well, it might be,
1115
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:09,300
Chapman said something along these lines, don't quote me.
1116
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,820
But it was like, well, it'd be slow, but it's there.
1117
00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:14,740
It's at least the internet's there.
1118
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:16,940
So he's basically just checking a box.
1119
00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:18,460
Yep, we accomplished the internet.
1120
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:19,300
Woo hoo.
1121
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:21,900
Even though it's a horrible internet and overpriced.
1122
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:23,300
It's slower than 1990.
1123
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:24,740
Yeah.
1124
00:40:24,740 --> 00:40:26,420
It's like the most outdated system.
1125
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:28,220
And we were supposed to be happy with that.
1126
00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:29,060
Yeah.
1127
00:40:29,060 --> 00:40:31,340
Yeah, oh, it's nice to know that you didn't have that.
1128
00:40:31,340 --> 00:40:34,340
I mean, maybe you should ask other people.
1129
00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:36,620
Well, Mantino does have its secrets,
1130
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:38,700
but that we'll have to save for another podcast.
1131
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:39,540
Oh, boy.
1132
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:40,780
But intrigue.
1133
00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:42,500
Oh, I can't wait.
1134
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:45,060
When are you gonna be back in town?
1135
00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:47,340
I got a girls weekend next weekend.
1136
00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:50,140
So I'll be back in town for that.
1137
00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:53,380
And then we have some guys come in the following week
1138
00:40:53,380 --> 00:40:55,380
to help us clear out a couple more trails
1139
00:40:55,380 --> 00:40:58,060
that we discovered that we have on our property.
1140
00:40:58,060 --> 00:40:58,900
Nice.
1141
00:40:58,900 --> 00:40:59,740
Nice.
1142
00:40:59,740 --> 00:41:00,940
How many acres do you have?
1143
00:41:02,500 --> 00:41:03,340
About 76.
1144
00:41:03,340 --> 00:41:04,180
Wow, that's nice.
1145
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:06,540
Wow, so you came up here because you love
1146
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:08,940
the natural beauty of the area, I'm presuming.
1147
00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:09,780
Yeah.
1148
00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:11,620
You didn't come up here to look at a smokestack
1149
00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:12,460
and a chemical factory.
1150
00:41:12,460 --> 00:41:14,060
You didn't come up here for jobs?
1151
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:15,660
You didn't buy a second house for a second job?
1152
00:41:15,660 --> 00:41:16,500
No.
1153
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,580
That's weird too.
1154
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:19,420
That's what they were telling us was gonna happen.
1155
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:22,020
Are you sure it has nothing to do with any kind of money?
1156
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:22,860
Positive.
1157
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:24,980
Wow, everything is struck.
1158
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:26,300
Strike out, strike out.
1159
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:28,780
Do you guys, are you funded by dark money down there?
1160
00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:29,620
Your group?
1161
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:30,460
No.
1162
00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:31,280
No, we're told we are.
1163
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,120
Are you sure?
1164
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:32,960
I'm positive.
1165
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,340
We've been waiting for our checks.
1166
00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:35,980
I thought you had it, Lori.
1167
00:41:35,980 --> 00:41:38,100
No, I have dark horses, not dark money.
1168
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,940
Yeah, did you get your check?
1169
00:41:39,940 --> 00:41:40,780
That's what I got confused.
1170
00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:43,620
I'm sorry, I'll take the blame for that.
1171
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,860
I said Lori had our dark money and it just didn't, sorry.
1172
00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:50,420
Yeah, I didn't get my check.
1173
00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:51,260
Or I'm a paid-
1174
00:41:51,260 --> 00:41:53,260
Did you get the check, Tanya?
1175
00:41:53,260 --> 00:41:55,020
If I did, I didn't see it.
1176
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:56,900
How about your paid protester check?
1177
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:58,260
We've been called those too.
1178
00:41:58,260 --> 00:41:59,940
I didn't get my check for that either.
1179
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:03,100
Somebody said I got a check, but I think they lied to me.
1180
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:07,860
Because I didn't see it in my bank account.
1181
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:09,620
Oh shoot, wow.
1182
00:42:09,620 --> 00:42:13,580
So all these things that were being told that we are
1183
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:14,420
and we're getting-
1184
00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:15,620
Not a lot of truth there, is there?
1185
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:20,380
No, because we've been at this fight for a year
1186
00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:24,140
and accused of many, many things.
1187
00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:27,780
I have no dark money, although dark horses.
1188
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:30,580
I have no, I never even protested,
1189
00:42:30,580 --> 00:42:33,020
but I got called a professional protester.
1190
00:42:33,020 --> 00:42:34,500
I protested, but it was the first time
1191
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:36,820
I ever protested in my life.
1192
00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:39,940
So we were the virgins of the protesting.
1193
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:40,780
Yes.
1194
00:42:40,780 --> 00:42:44,340
And we got called professional and now we're the virgins.
1195
00:42:44,340 --> 00:42:46,380
That must mean that we're really good at it.
1196
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:47,900
If we're professionals, that must mean
1197
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,180
that we're unbelievably good at protesting.
1198
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:51,020
Yeah.
1199
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:51,860
Good job.
1200
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:52,700
You too.
1201
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:53,540
Congratulations, thank you.
1202
00:42:53,540 --> 00:42:55,500
Thank you so much.
1203
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:58,420
That just really, what about you?
1204
00:42:58,420 --> 00:43:00,100
Is this your first time ever doing anything
1205
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,180
like this, Christopher?
1206
00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:02,660
Absolutely.
1207
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:06,180
Well, actually, no, well, at this scale, yes.
1208
00:43:08,260 --> 00:43:09,700
Did you get paid any money?
1209
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:10,860
No.
1210
00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:11,820
You either, huh?
1211
00:43:11,820 --> 00:43:13,860
None of us got paid any money.
1212
00:43:13,860 --> 00:43:15,620
I think Angie has all of our money
1213
00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:16,460
and she just looks at us for it.
1214
00:43:16,460 --> 00:43:19,020
You the dark money source.
1215
00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:20,260
Oh, she did buy a second house.
1216
00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:21,780
Yeah, she did buy a second house.
1217
00:43:21,780 --> 00:43:26,780
Hey, that's our escape plan.
1218
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:29,620
Well, you chose the wrong escape plan.
1219
00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:32,060
If your escape plan deals with moving
1220
00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:34,020
into the area that also has it.
1221
00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:36,020
You didn't plan that out too well, did you?
1222
00:43:36,020 --> 00:43:39,860
I bought the house in October of 2020.
1223
00:43:39,860 --> 00:43:40,700
Oh, two.
1224
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:42,740
Oh, see, you would have never known about it
1225
00:43:42,740 --> 00:43:44,340
because they kept everything quiet.
1226
00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:45,460
So you would have never known
1227
00:43:45,460 --> 00:43:47,980
that Goshen was coming here at that point.
1228
00:43:47,980 --> 00:43:50,500
How do you guys educate the community down there?
1229
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:54,260
The Facebook is huge.
1230
00:43:55,700 --> 00:44:00,700
And I don't know if you noticed that our group is closed.
1231
00:44:01,660 --> 00:44:04,020
Our group is not public.
1232
00:44:04,020 --> 00:44:05,580
Yep.
1233
00:44:05,580 --> 00:44:09,140
That could be why we don't have the drama.
1234
00:44:09,140 --> 00:44:09,980
Yeah.
1235
00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:10,980
Yep.
1236
00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:15,180
That our paid instigators are gonna show up on.
1237
00:44:15,180 --> 00:44:18,420
Paid instigators, that's what we could call them.
1238
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:19,700
Or are we the paid instigators?
1239
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:21,100
No, they're the paid instigators.
1240
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:22,260
We're the unpaid instigators.
1241
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:24,220
We're the unpaid instigators.
1242
00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:29,220
You know, last year actually there was about like 10
1243
00:44:29,220 --> 00:44:34,420
of us that was saying that, you know what?
1244
00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:36,620
They have to be getting paid to do their job
1245
00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:39,140
because, or maybe they got fired
1246
00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:42,140
and just had to ramp it up so that they were good.
1247
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,020
Because last year they wasn't too good
1248
00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:46,540
about being agitators.
1249
00:44:46,540 --> 00:44:49,640
They kind of spin it a little bit, that old t-
1250
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,700
Oh.
1251
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:53,420
And Mark A.W., one of the same.
1252
00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:54,820
One of the same.
1253
00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:55,660
I'm convinced of someone.
1254
00:44:55,660 --> 00:44:57,620
What about Sally Weber?
1255
00:44:57,620 --> 00:44:59,740
Sally Weber, she-
1256
00:44:59,740 --> 00:45:01,140
She kind of disappeared.
1257
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:04,500
No, she comes out and about every once in a blue moon.
1258
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:05,980
Only on OTG though.
1259
00:45:05,980 --> 00:45:07,460
I think she's a fake account.
1260
00:45:07,460 --> 00:45:09,100
I think there's a lot of fake accounts.
1261
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:09,940
Yeah.
1262
00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:11,620
I had one fake account and I still,
1263
00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:14,100
everyone's still angry about that.
1264
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,500
And you know what, isn't that funny?
1265
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:17,620
Because that really made me mad.
1266
00:45:17,620 --> 00:45:19,220
Cause I knew that there was other people
1267
00:45:19,220 --> 00:45:21,740
that didn't go by their actual name.
1268
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:22,580
Yeah.
1269
00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:25,780
For whatever their reason, but yet when you did it-
1270
00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:26,820
Oh, it was a great big deal.
1271
00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:27,940
It was, Lord.
1272
00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:29,620
And when everyone made a big deal about it,
1273
00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:30,460
what did I do?
1274
00:45:30,460 --> 00:45:31,820
I shut it down.
1275
00:45:31,820 --> 00:45:32,660
Yeah.
1276
00:45:32,660 --> 00:45:33,860
You confess and shut it down.
1277
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:34,820
Yep.
1278
00:45:34,820 --> 00:45:36,780
Yeah, but then by him confessing,
1279
00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:39,740
it was like made it almost worse
1280
00:45:39,740 --> 00:45:41,740
than had he had just closed it down
1281
00:45:41,740 --> 00:45:43,060
and not have done anything.
1282
00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:43,900
Yeah.
1283
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:44,740
I know.
1284
00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:45,620
Yeah.
1285
00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:48,180
But there's no pleasing.
1286
00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:49,540
Well, you can't please people like that.
1287
00:45:49,540 --> 00:45:52,180
They're just, like I said, they're here to instigate
1288
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:55,380
and to try to rile us up.
1289
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:57,140
The best thing we can do is just ignore them.
1290
00:45:57,140 --> 00:45:59,500
I feel that way anyway.
1291
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:00,540
I don't like to argue with them
1292
00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:03,220
because they're so insignificant.
1293
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:06,340
Yes, they are insignificant.
1294
00:46:06,340 --> 00:46:10,860
I remember, I want to say this was back in September.
1295
00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:13,380
I joined the Only Things Ghoshen
1296
00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:14,980
just to see what they have to say.
1297
00:46:14,980 --> 00:46:15,820
Yes.
1298
00:46:15,820 --> 00:46:17,820
And I kept quiet for about two weeks
1299
00:46:17,820 --> 00:46:22,180
and then somebody posted something about,
1300
00:46:22,180 --> 00:46:23,020
I don't even remember,
1301
00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:27,060
but my response was that,
1302
00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:32,060
oh, I remember that the lawyer that was hired
1303
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:36,340
is like an ambulance chaser for lack of better word.
1304
00:46:36,340 --> 00:46:37,180
Oh, doobie?
1305
00:46:37,180 --> 00:46:38,020
Yeah, doobie.
1306
00:46:38,020 --> 00:46:38,860
Yeah.
1307
00:46:38,860 --> 00:46:43,580
And I'm like, oh, okay, I'm not gonna be quiet.
1308
00:46:43,580 --> 00:46:45,500
I'm gonna, the nails are coming out.
1309
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:50,500
So I found an article with him in the North Dakota
1310
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:54,220
and how they successfully got the Chinese out.
1311
00:46:54,220 --> 00:46:59,220
So I responded and I said, no, this is who he is.
1312
00:46:59,620 --> 00:47:00,900
He's an excellent lawyer.
1313
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:04,260
He managed to get the Chinese out of North Dakota.
1314
00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:06,460
And lo and behold.
1315
00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:07,660
Who? Who was it?
1316
00:47:07,660 --> 00:47:10,780
Oh, I don't know who did it, but I'm sure it's TRR.
1317
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:11,620
I don't know.
1318
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:12,620
Oh yeah.
1319
00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:13,700
But.
1320
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:15,060
The McRepresentative.
1321
00:47:15,060 --> 00:47:18,020
They make the McRepresentative.
1322
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,820
But all of a sudden, a couple hours later,
1323
00:47:20,820 --> 00:47:22,940
my comments is gone.
1324
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:25,540
And then not too much soon after that,
1325
00:47:25,540 --> 00:47:28,860
I couldn't even find only thing Goshen
1326
00:47:28,860 --> 00:47:30,140
because they blocked me.
1327
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:30,980
Oh, you got blocked too.
1328
00:47:30,980 --> 00:47:33,180
Oh my God, you blocked me too.
1329
00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:34,020
I have a blog.
1330
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:34,860
Did you get blocked, Tanya?
1331
00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:37,500
I did, but it wasn't by TRR.
1332
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:42,500
It was by THNMA.
1333
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:43,340
Ganga San.
1334
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:46,740
Yes.
1335
00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:47,940
Communist San.
1336
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:48,780
Yep.
1337
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:52,900
And I really, did you guys feel bad the other day
1338
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,540
when he found out that we have somebody running
1339
00:47:55,540 --> 00:47:57,820
up against his wife?
1340
00:47:57,820 --> 00:47:59,500
Oh, I didn't feel bad at all.
1341
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:01,220
I heard he was really angry.
1342
00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:02,060
After what he's done?
1343
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:02,900
I got my popcorn out.
1344
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:04,220
I'm like, this is awesome.
1345
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:08,020
Like he thinks that we're just gonna sit down
1346
00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:10,180
and take all that abuse for the last year.
1347
00:48:10,180 --> 00:48:11,540
No, Tim, sorry.
1348
00:48:11,540 --> 00:48:13,140
You know, here's the reality.
1349
00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:16,460
We would have never ever looked
1350
00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:18,660
at replacing the register of deeds
1351
00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:20,300
if he would have kept his mouth shut.
1352
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:21,980
Would you have even thought about that?
1353
00:48:21,980 --> 00:48:23,460
I would have never thought about it.
1354
00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:26,380
Well, but I have to take it one step farther.
1355
00:48:26,380 --> 00:48:27,580
Yeah, I would have thought about it
1356
00:48:27,580 --> 00:48:30,060
irregardless of whether he spoke a word
1357
00:48:30,060 --> 00:48:32,300
because of what she did.
1358
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:33,380
These are rumors.
1359
00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:34,220
Rumors.
1360
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:35,540
These are rumors.
1361
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:36,380
Yeah.
1362
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:37,220
Rumors less opinions.
1363
00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:38,940
The rumor is.
1364
00:48:38,940 --> 00:48:39,780
What'd you do?
1365
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:44,780
She was given information to TRR and Jim Chapman about.
1366
00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:46,060
Do you know for sure it was her?
1367
00:48:46,060 --> 00:48:47,860
We heard it was on her desk.
1368
00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:51,220
Our files were on her desk, is what I was told.
1369
00:48:51,220 --> 00:48:52,060
These are rumors.
1370
00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:52,900
Rumors.
1371
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:54,460
These are rumors.
1372
00:48:54,460 --> 00:48:55,300
Yeah.
1373
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:56,140
Rumors less opinions.
1374
00:48:56,140 --> 00:49:01,140
The rumor is that Tracy and some other people
1375
00:49:01,380 --> 00:49:02,820
went up to the courthouse
1376
00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:05,540
and they spent better than almost a full day.
1377
00:49:05,540 --> 00:49:06,380
There's six of them.
1378
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:11,380
At the courthouse and apparently Karen Hahn
1379
00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:16,380
was providing them with information about Lori
1380
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:22,420
and her divorce and whether she lived in her horse trailer,
1381
00:49:24,460 --> 00:49:27,500
which I would live in her horse trailer.
1382
00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:28,860
It's a nice trailer.
1383
00:49:28,860 --> 00:49:30,340
Yeah, it's got living quarters.
1384
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:31,420
Hello.
1385
00:49:31,420 --> 00:49:35,180
Just saying FYI, you know,
1386
00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:37,500
what's the point in having a living quarter trailer
1387
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:39,460
if you're not gonna live in it, right?
1388
00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:43,540
Anyways, what does that have to do with Goshen at all?
1389
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:46,260
I mean, honestly, other than to pull up dirt
1390
00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:50,420
in people's lives, which to me is just a really tactless way
1391
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:52,500
to handle things, but game on.
1392
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:54,420
Well, when you're desperate.
1393
00:49:54,420 --> 00:49:56,900
Well, no, they're comparing it because I went out
1394
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:58,940
and got the FOIA request against Chapman.
1395
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:00,860
He was a politician.
1396
00:50:00,860 --> 00:50:02,140
Are you a politician, Lori?
1397
00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:03,220
I'm not a politician,
1398
00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:05,460
but they sure thought I was gonna be a politician.
1399
00:50:05,460 --> 00:50:08,100
So they were making a whole slam campaign against me.
1400
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,140
This was well after they found out you weren't.
1401
00:50:10,140 --> 00:50:13,180
Absolutely, absolutely, but yet they still came after me.
1402
00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:16,780
Maybe because I'm loud, maybe, you know, I'm loud.
1403
00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:18,140
But you know what?
1404
00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:20,660
No, they call you Lion Lori.
1405
00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:23,780
Oh yeah, Lion Lori, I've been called that repeatedly.
1406
00:50:23,780 --> 00:50:27,660
And you know, pretty pony princess.
1407
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:30,020
Oh, wasn't that the name of the website?
1408
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:31,940
Yeah, PPP, you down with me?
1409
00:50:31,940 --> 00:50:33,020
What the heck?
1410
00:50:36,020 --> 00:50:38,060
Is this a Michigan thing?
1411
00:50:38,060 --> 00:50:41,300
No, they nicknamed me the pretty pony princess.
1412
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:44,180
Well, PPP, so I'm gonna run with it.
1413
00:50:44,180 --> 00:50:45,500
You down with me?
1414
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:46,340
I got you.
1415
00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:47,500
I want some beat music.
1416
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:49,460
Can you give me some beat music?
1417
00:50:52,220 --> 00:50:54,420
Come on, we gotta get some beat going here.
1418
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:55,620
That was not it.
1419
00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:57,620
I know he's not very hip hoppy, is he?
1420
00:50:57,620 --> 00:50:58,460
I know.
1421
00:50:58,460 --> 00:50:59,300
The boop?
1422
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:02,660
Thanks, Chris, that was a good account.
1423
00:51:03,540 --> 00:51:05,740
Yes, no, maybe so.
1424
00:51:05,740 --> 00:51:08,140
I think that was me.
1425
00:51:08,140 --> 00:51:09,380
No, really.
1426
00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:14,380
What do you guys all think about it?
1427
00:51:16,620 --> 00:51:21,620
Why do you think that the progos are so adamant?
1428
00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:26,380
Well, didn't somebody get a lot of money
1429
00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:27,580
for their property?
1430
00:51:27,580 --> 00:51:29,820
Oh, that's some of them, definitely.
1431
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:33,620
Well, yeah, that would be TC.
1432
00:51:33,620 --> 00:51:34,700
Oh, what about the?
1433
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:37,140
TC, oh, yeah.
1434
00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:39,980
She has a loud voice and she got a lot of money.
1435
00:51:39,980 --> 00:51:42,300
But I hear it's about like 18 million
1436
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:43,740
and didn't she buy like.
1437
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:46,860
A house in Baldwin from what I understand.
1438
00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:48,500
For like a million dollars.
1439
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:50,300
Yeah, but she can run her mouth.
1440
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:51,700
Well, she's out of the safety zone,
1441
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:54,980
but she runs her mouth about the stuff here.
1442
00:51:54,980 --> 00:51:56,300
But she's, well, like I said,
1443
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:58,220
she had 18 million reasons why.
1444
00:51:58,220 --> 00:51:59,580
I don't know, maybe she's gonna get more
1445
00:51:59,580 --> 00:52:02,900
and the thing is contingent.
1446
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:03,820
Maybe.
1447
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:05,460
You never know because there's something
1448
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:09,300
because they're definitely after us and after.
1449
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:11,540
I mean, if she got that money,
1450
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:13,460
most people would just shut up and leave and.
1451
00:52:13,460 --> 00:52:15,060
Why wouldn't you say?
1452
00:52:15,060 --> 00:52:17,420
Other than sticking around causing problems.
1453
00:52:17,420 --> 00:52:19,740
But no, maybe there's more money on the line.
1454
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:21,820
There could be, there very well could be.
1455
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:26,820
So up here, Goshen is suing the township.
1456
00:52:28,660 --> 00:52:29,500
If you didn't know,
1457
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:31,380
they're suing the township in federal court.
1458
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:33,780
That they want to come to, that they said that they will.
1459
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:35,180
They wanted to welcome in
1460
00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:37,420
and they wanted to be a part of our community.
1461
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:39,620
And then literally the next week,
1462
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:41,340
hit with a federal lawsuit.
1463
00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:43,620
Who comes into a community like that?
1464
00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:44,460
What a jerk.
1465
00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:45,300
Exactly.
1466
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:50,660
And then Goshen is suing one of the people
1467
00:52:50,660 --> 00:52:54,820
that they sold their land to, Steve Fenstermacher.
1468
00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:56,500
I don't understand why they're gonna sue
1469
00:52:56,500 --> 00:52:59,700
a green township resident just because of.
1470
00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:01,500
Communists.
1471
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:03,060
Yeah, that's what it is.
1472
00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:03,900
It's ridiculous.
1473
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:05,700
They're in financial hardship.
1474
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:09,660
So is Goshen suing you guys?
1475
00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:11,300
Are you suing Goshen?
1476
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:13,580
The concerned citizens of Mantino.
1477
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:19,100
And a gentleman by the name of Brian Kovaca.
1478
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:19,940
Great.
1479
00:53:19,940 --> 00:53:21,820
They are suing.
1480
00:53:21,820 --> 00:53:22,900
Yes.
1481
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:23,740
And.
1482
00:53:23,740 --> 00:53:25,060
Wow.
1483
00:53:25,060 --> 00:53:26,180
That's great news.
1484
00:53:26,180 --> 00:53:27,020
Yes.
1485
00:53:27,020 --> 00:53:32,020
And the whole court document is on the no Goshen dash Illinois.
1486
00:53:32,020 --> 00:53:32,860
Wonderful.
1487
00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:34,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1488
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:35,540
So.
1489
00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:37,500
No Goshen Illinois dash Illinois.
1490
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:38,540
Plus our website.
1491
00:53:38,540 --> 00:53:41,140
Tanya, you're gonna have to get that over to our site,
1492
00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:41,980
that document.
1493
00:53:41,980 --> 00:53:42,820
I will.
1494
00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:43,640
And then.
1495
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,780
Absolutely.
1496
00:53:44,780 --> 00:53:49,780
Our website is www.nogoshen-illinois.com.
1497
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:52,580
Nice.
1498
00:53:52,580 --> 00:53:56,580
I do wanna point out that I have a picture
1499
00:53:56,580 --> 00:53:59,540
because the are moving into Mantino.
1500
00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:00,380
Uh-oh.
1501
00:54:00,380 --> 00:54:01,220
Uh-oh.
1502
00:54:01,220 --> 00:54:02,060
I'm gonna say.
1503
00:54:02,060 --> 00:54:02,900
Wait, hold on.
1504
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:04,260
Just like a couple of weeks ago,
1505
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:06,700
we're not allowed to say.
1506
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:07,540
I forgot.
1507
00:54:07,540 --> 00:54:08,580
That's a bad word.
1508
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:09,420
We can't say China.
1509
00:54:09,420 --> 00:54:10,900
You have to say communist.
1510
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:11,740
Not China.
1511
00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:12,580
Yeah.
1512
00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:17,580
Anyway, continue.
1513
00:54:17,580 --> 00:54:18,420
So.
1514
00:54:18,420 --> 00:54:19,820
Do it again.
1515
00:54:19,820 --> 00:54:24,340
I was wondering what effect are you using?
1516
00:54:24,340 --> 00:54:25,180
A buzzer.
1517
00:54:25,180 --> 00:54:27,000
Evil.
1518
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:27,840
Okay.
1519
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,840
Apparently, there's 15 of, I'll use quotes, them.
1520
00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:33,980
Okay.
1521
00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:34,800
Living together.
1522
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,060
Oh.
1523
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:39,200
And they're buying up houses now.
1524
00:54:40,540 --> 00:54:41,380
Really?
1525
00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:43,980
That's interesting because I heard rumors about
1526
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:47,180
there's a group of them living.
1527
00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:48,020
Together.
1528
00:54:48,020 --> 00:54:49,380
Together in this area too.
1529
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:50,220
Yes, I heard that as well.
1530
00:54:50,220 --> 00:54:51,500
But we're not gonna go into that
1531
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:53,340
because I don't have a lot of detail on that.
1532
00:54:53,340 --> 00:54:57,420
Anyway, I heard from some sources
1533
00:54:57,420 --> 00:55:01,900
that you know that football or sports thing up in Reed City
1534
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,460
right off the highway?
1535
00:55:04,460 --> 00:55:06,340
It's got chemical bank.
1536
00:55:06,340 --> 00:55:07,180
Yes.
1537
00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:09,500
Yes, the youth sports thing or whatever.
1538
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:12,140
I heard that there was an individual
1539
00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:15,780
that was going to buy that property
1540
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:17,540
and put apartments on it.
1541
00:55:17,540 --> 00:55:21,100
Somehow that fell through and some other company
1542
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,500
is now going to be buying that to put apartments.
1543
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:25,540
First of all, why do you need apartments in Reed City?
1544
00:55:25,540 --> 00:55:27,020
There's nothing to draw to it.
1545
00:55:27,020 --> 00:55:30,500
Okay, Nate, nobody move into, live in Reed City to work
1546
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:33,340
other than maybe Yo Play, but why would they do that?
1547
00:55:33,340 --> 00:55:34,420
That's where Yo Play is made?
1548
00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:35,260
Yeah.
1549
00:55:35,260 --> 00:55:36,100
Oh, no kidding.
1550
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:37,580
Yeah, my mom worked there.
1551
00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:38,900
I just go to Cadillac,
1552
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,260
so I wouldn't even know Reed City existed.
1553
00:55:41,260 --> 00:55:42,820
Yeah, a lot of people don't.
1554
00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:47,820
And so, why would you build apartments for,
1555
00:55:50,020 --> 00:55:52,080
no one's going to move here to work
1556
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,660
and then live in an apartment.
1557
00:55:53,660 --> 00:55:58,180
And so, they're going to put apartments in Reed City
1558
00:55:58,180 --> 00:55:59,700
on that property.
1559
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,220
I'm pretty sure that those apartments will be used
1560
00:56:03,220 --> 00:56:07,260
for the foreign nationals that would be moving in
1561
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:11,980
to help set up the facility and help train everyone
1562
00:56:11,980 --> 00:56:14,500
as you know who has already stated.
1563
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:16,820
It's going to become a 15 minute city.
1564
00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:17,780
That's what you think?
1565
00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:18,620
That's what I think.
1566
00:56:18,620 --> 00:56:23,620
That's a little conspiracy theory, but we'll continue.
1567
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:28,260
Well, you know, it's, my whole thing is, you know,
1568
00:56:28,260 --> 00:56:30,460
I don't know, one of the other towns in Michigan
1569
00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:33,820
that has this, the communist companies,
1570
00:56:33,820 --> 00:56:35,940
they're now requiring their children to learn
1571
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:37,220
Manda, Manda-nese?
1572
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:38,220
Or Mandarin? Mandarin.
1573
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:39,060
Mandarin, sorry.
1574
00:56:39,060 --> 00:56:40,300
Where are they doing that at?
1575
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:43,180
I believe it's Holland, is what one of the gals
1576
00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:44,860
from one of the meetings told me.
1577
00:56:44,860 --> 00:56:48,300
And it's a requirement for our children to learn Mandarin.
1578
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:49,140
Really?
1579
00:56:49,140 --> 00:56:50,860
Yeah, and I thought that was pretty lame.
1580
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:52,380
They're in our country.
1581
00:56:52,380 --> 00:56:53,980
Why are we learning, having to be enforced
1582
00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:55,500
to the language?
1583
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,540
Honestly, I would say it's probably better
1584
00:56:57,540 --> 00:57:00,420
to learn Chinese in school,
1585
00:57:00,420 --> 00:57:03,140
just so we know what's being said.
1586
00:57:03,140 --> 00:57:06,620
Well, my son took Chinese a semester.
1587
00:57:06,620 --> 00:57:07,700
Yeah, that was hard.
1588
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:08,740
Yeah? Yeah.
1589
00:57:08,740 --> 00:57:11,620
Their language is very hard to learn.
1590
00:57:11,620 --> 00:57:14,260
But yet they say learning English
1591
00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:16,540
is one of the hardest languages too.
1592
00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:20,380
Because there's so many different ways of saying things
1593
00:57:20,380 --> 00:57:22,740
and a lot of people get it wrong.
1594
00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:25,140
Actually, we started out with old English,
1595
00:57:25,140 --> 00:57:27,540
if you stop and remember all that.
1596
00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:28,380
Well,
1597
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:33,780
any, anything else, Angie?
1598
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:35,380
Before we close up the show?
1599
00:57:35,380 --> 00:57:38,940
Well, the court case is going to be heard again
1600
00:57:38,940 --> 00:57:40,500
on July 15th.
1601
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:41,460
Okay. That is awesome.
1602
00:57:41,460 --> 00:57:43,380
We gotta keep an eye out for that.
1603
00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:46,020
The reason why Brian is on it
1604
00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:51,020
is because he's within 1200 feet
1605
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:53,780
of the proposed site.
1606
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:54,700
Oh.
1607
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:55,540
So that's why.
1608
00:57:55,540 --> 00:57:57,500
You mean he didn't sell his land?
1609
00:57:57,500 --> 00:57:58,340
No.
1610
00:57:58,340 --> 00:57:59,180
To Goshen?
1611
00:57:59,180 --> 00:58:01,740
Goshen probably didn't offer to buy.
1612
00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:04,420
Oh, they didn't offer to buy mine from what they said.
1613
00:58:04,420 --> 00:58:07,020
You know, they did, but they don't want,
1614
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:08,580
if you don't agree to it, then they say,
1615
00:58:08,580 --> 00:58:10,260
oh, we didn't do that.
1616
00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:12,620
You know, it's, you know, I feel sorry for him,
1617
00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:13,860
but I'm glad he's taken a stand
1618
00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:15,860
because more people need to take a stand.
1619
00:58:15,860 --> 00:58:17,780
And not be bullied by these people.
1620
00:58:17,780 --> 00:58:19,980
I mean, a lot of people in this community
1621
00:58:19,980 --> 00:58:21,580
were bullied when Goshen got in here.
1622
00:58:21,580 --> 00:58:22,860
And we're not going to back down.
1623
00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:23,700
No, we're not.
1624
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:24,540
We're not.
1625
00:58:24,540 --> 00:58:25,380
We're not.
1626
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:26,220
That's going to be the summer mantra.
1627
00:58:26,220 --> 00:58:27,060
Yes.
1628
00:58:27,060 --> 00:58:27,900
It's going up on that.
1629
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:29,300
We won't back down.
1630
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:30,140
Yep.
1631
00:58:30,140 --> 00:58:30,980
And your video was amazing.
1632
00:58:30,980 --> 00:58:32,260
Yeah, it was awesome.
1633
00:58:32,260 --> 00:58:33,100
I love that.
1634
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:33,940
Thank you.
1635
00:58:33,940 --> 00:58:34,780
That's going on.
1636
00:58:34,780 --> 00:58:39,020
I passed him around to so many other groups.
1637
00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:43,380
And if you guys have not joined the,
1638
00:58:43,380 --> 00:58:45,140
what's going on in the Everett area.
1639
00:58:45,140 --> 00:58:46,620
What's going on in Everett?
1640
00:58:46,620 --> 00:58:48,140
The contamination.
1641
00:58:48,140 --> 00:58:48,980
From what?
1642
00:58:50,740 --> 00:58:53,660
They haven't, my guess has gotten into wells,
1643
00:58:53,660 --> 00:58:58,660
but I also know that they're putting a potash plant
1644
00:58:58,860 --> 00:59:02,380
over in Everett because there's a potash plant
1645
00:59:02,380 --> 00:59:05,260
in Hersey with a lithium pond.
1646
00:59:05,260 --> 00:59:08,820
Well, we're going to save that for another episode.
1647
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:10,020
Anything else?
1648
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:10,860
No.
1649
00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:11,680
No?
1650
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,220
Okay, we're going to jump into some community buzz.
1651
00:59:14,220 --> 00:59:16,340
If you're interested in joining the Rotary Club
1652
00:59:16,340 --> 00:59:18,620
of Big Rapids, you can find them on Facebook
1653
00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:20,060
at the Rotary Club of Big Rapids.
1654
00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:21,380
They're stopped by the lower level
1655
00:59:21,380 --> 00:59:23,500
of the Artworks Building on Tuesdays at noon.
1656
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:25,860
Your first two lunches are on them.
1657
00:59:25,860 --> 00:59:27,700
Anyone part of the Rotary Club here?
1658
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:28,540
No.
1659
00:59:28,540 --> 00:59:30,540
No, I can't even vote here yet.
1660
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:31,580
Oh.
1661
00:59:31,580 --> 00:59:33,820
Well, if you would like to join,
1662
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:36,580
you can contact them and go to the lower level
1663
00:59:36,580 --> 00:59:39,220
of the Artworks Building, just so you know.
1664
00:59:39,220 --> 00:59:41,620
Meseola Curry Comfort Home is teaming up
1665
00:59:41,620 --> 00:59:44,900
with Two Hats Ranch for their Shooting for Comfort
1666
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:48,140
Sporting Clay event May 17th.
1667
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:50,340
This includes a golf cart lunch,
1668
00:59:50,340 --> 00:59:52,620
and you can get a four-person team register
1669
00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:56,820
by going to their website, meseolacurrycomforthome.com.
1670
00:59:56,820 --> 01:00:01,820
For questions, call 231-287-2208.
1671
01:00:01,980 --> 01:00:03,140
Anybody going to be doing that?
1672
01:00:03,140 --> 01:00:05,740
I think I might do that too.
1673
01:00:05,740 --> 01:00:07,580
We clay shoot all the time.
1674
01:00:07,580 --> 01:00:09,420
Oh yeah, I saw those pictures.
1675
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:10,260
Yeah.
1676
01:00:10,260 --> 01:00:13,020
The Animal Rescue Correlation is a nonprofit
1677
01:00:13,020 --> 01:00:14,060
no-kill shelter.
1678
01:00:14,060 --> 01:00:17,780
They always are in need of donations of food and toys.
1679
01:00:17,780 --> 01:00:20,700
They are Mecosta County's only shelter.
1680
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,500
So, they also rehabilitate abused and neglected pets.
1681
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:28,660
So remember, adopt, don't shop.
1682
01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:32,220
Any pets is a lifetime commitment, so take it seriously.
1683
01:00:32,220 --> 01:00:35,620
Each animal they have, all need a forever home.
1684
01:00:35,620 --> 01:00:39,020
Gilbert's Carpets Plus Color Tile has their red,
1685
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:41,460
white, and blue Dream Floor Award,
1686
01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:44,300
where you can nominate a facility in the listening area
1687
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:46,540
to win a new floor for their facility.
1688
01:00:46,540 --> 01:00:50,940
And you can go to gilbertscarpetsplus.com
1689
01:00:50,940 --> 01:00:53,180
forward slash dreamfloorward.
1690
01:00:54,740 --> 01:00:57,300
Let's see, is there any more community buzz?
1691
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:02,460
Let's see, not really, not right now.
1692
01:01:02,460 --> 01:01:04,420
Anybody know anything else that's going on
1693
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:07,060
in the month of May?
1694
01:01:07,060 --> 01:01:07,900
No?
1695
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:09,100
Okay, we're gonna move on.
1696
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:14,100
Uh, we would like to thank our sponsors this week.
1697
01:01:14,340 --> 01:01:19,020
Purely Clean Services, thank you Lisa.
1698
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:24,020
Barretton Firearms Training Center, 911 Restoration.
1699
01:01:24,140 --> 01:01:26,740
Gilbert's Carpets Plus Color Tile,
1700
01:01:26,740 --> 01:01:28,820
Benton Baker of Big Rapids,
1701
01:01:28,820 --> 01:01:32,820
Susan Bean of Big Rapids Realty, we love Susan Bean.
1702
01:01:32,820 --> 01:01:35,340
Hello, Susan Bean.
1703
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:38,140
And along with the other supportive people
1704
01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:40,620
and businesses of the community,
1705
01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:42,140
we thank each and every one of you
1706
01:01:42,140 --> 01:01:43,700
for getting behind our show.
1707
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:45,460
If you would like to sponsor our show,
1708
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:49,060
The Big Rapids Buzz, or really my show at the moment,
1709
01:01:50,060 --> 01:01:53,100
Big Rapids Buzz, you can call your best friend Jen
1710
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:58,100
here at B1039 at 231-796-1103,
1711
01:01:59,140 --> 01:02:00,900
and she'll get you started.
1712
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,500
Listen again next Monday at 8.30 a.m.
1713
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:08,020
for The Big Rapids Buzz with me and not Bruce,
1714
01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:09,020
just me, Chris.
1715
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:10,620
Not Bruce.
1716
01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:14,740
Just me and myself and I and whoever else I have on.
1717
01:02:14,740 --> 01:02:17,700
Maybe Laurie over here, maybe Tanya, maybe Angie,
1718
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:20,020
maybe somebody else, I don't know.
1719
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:21,340
But listen again, 8.30.
1720
01:02:21,340 --> 01:02:22,980
This is Spanx is killing me.
1721
01:02:22,980 --> 01:02:24,660
We make it up, we do this live.
1722
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:27,860
Yeah, see y'all, bye bye.
1723
01:02:27,860 --> 01:02:33,580
Ugh, what a show, Chris, and we're finished.
1724
01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:57,940
활여 move