Chris Verda

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All right, Chris, episode three.
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We're here at your shop in Grafton, I believe.
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I don't, you send me the location on the way here.
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I totally got lost.
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Kind of knew where I was at,
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kind of didn't know where I was at.
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But we're here at the shop, got the car behind us.
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So episode one was filmed in the trailer
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for Lane Racing.
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Episode two was outdoors in Mansfield.
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And episode three, we're in a shop.
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So we're mobile with all of our episodes here.
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But I'm gonna start this off
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just like I did episode one and two
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and ask you for a quote that inspires you
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or kind of means a lot to you that you kind of look at
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in maybe for inspiration, racing, but in life as a whole.
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Yeah, so I guess a quote.
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I kind of go with a lot
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as if you're comfortable doing something,
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you're not doing it hard enough.
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And you gotta get comfortable being uncomfortable.
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I don't, it's not always easy to do it,
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but I try to preach that I'm a basketball coach now.
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This is my first year coaching basketball.
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And I've tried to take that to them that,
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you know, if you're just running through a drill
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or anything in life really,
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you can do it a little bit harder
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and get a little bit better.
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So I guess I'd probably be one.
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Yeah, I kind of, I like that one.
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If you're comfortable, you're not doing it hard enough.
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Kind of goes in, you know, hand with, you know,
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be comfortable being uncomfortable and all of that.
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So yeah, I mean, that makes, you know,
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pretty good sense there.
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So I think last episode I used this song
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and on the way up here,
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it was about an hour drive to get here.
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I was kind of trying to think of what I wanted to use
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as my quote for this episode.
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And I was really thinking back and forth
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on what I wanted it to be.
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And I think the one that I'm gonna go with,
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a quote from a TikTok reel that I saw
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from one of those creators that are out there,
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but it kind of the gist of the quote
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or the background of the context where you wanna call it
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is the guy is kind of sitting there
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and he's getting ready to drink an energy drink
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and his like subconscious or his friend or whatever it is,
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is like, don't drink that, you know, it's not good for you.
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When he goes in, he replies back that the sink is broken,
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inferring that he can't, you know, get water
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and he, the subconscious or, you know,
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the second person goes, wait for the rain, brother.
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And I think like I sat there and I was like,
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initially I was like, that quote goes so hard.
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Like that is such a hard quote, like wait for the rain.
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But then I think about it more and I'm like,
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it makes so much sense.
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I think, I know in my life, like I do not have patience.
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Like if I want something,
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I'm going to do everything I can to get it as soon as I can.
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And like I don't exercise that enough.
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And I heard that quote and it's like, wait for the rain.
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And I think it's perfect too.
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Cause I lived in Texas for a while
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and like it never rained there
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and you're just, you're waiting for it
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and you're waiting for it.
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And one day it eventually comes
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and it's like this giant relief that you get.
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And I think that applies to a lot of things in life.
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If you just wait for the rain
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or wait for the good things,
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you're eventually going to get them
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and you're going to be glad that you waited
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and it's going to be this very happy,
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almost ceremonial moment in life.
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So I think that one for me is going to stick with me
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for a little bit.
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It's going to be in the back of my mind one
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cause I just think it's a hard quote.
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Like I almost want to get it tattooed on my body somewhere.
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Like wait for the rain brother.
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But just overall, like the bigger picture
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or when you back out of just the quote
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and look at what that could signal
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or symbolize is so much bigger than that.
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And I think in racing too,
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it's like such a theory.
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I don't even say a theory,
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but like an idea of, you know,
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you can have all these races,
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you can be the bridesmaid, but never the bride.
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And you know, second, second, third, fourth, fifth,
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and you know, one night you junk a car or whatever.
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But if you, you know, you stick at it
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and you, you know, keep trying
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and you're trying hard and you're uncomfortable,
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getting comfortable with uncomfortableness,
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eventually it's going to pay off and you're going to get the win
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and it's going to rain and all of that.
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And for you, you know, the season's been kind of up and down.
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You know, we got the video of the incident with Van Gurley
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at Fremont and stuff.
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And that's kind of just one highlight of the season for you.
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But it's been a, been an up and down season.
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You guys have kind of explored some other tracks out there.
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I know you guys are, I think we're just at Lernerville
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or something here recently.
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I mean, what to you as we enter like kind of the last
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couple of weeks of the season is going to be
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the rain moment that, that final like here it is.
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You know, we've waited all season for this
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and we're finally getting what, you know,
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maybe the results we wanted or even if it's not the results,
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just something to kind of look at and be like,
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this was, this is what we needed.
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Yeah. So probably going, going forward, you know,
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the last couple of weeks we have,
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I think we have three nights at Sharon maybe.
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And we, we have the Lou Blaney Memorial,
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which is a pretty big race, the World of Outlaw show,
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which does obviously, you know, that's,
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if you make, make that show at my, you know,
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experience I haven't raced with them.
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So if we make that show, that's the rain in my opinion.
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And then we have a race at Skyline.
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I think the night before the Outlaw show and the,
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we went there last year and we ran like 11th to third
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or fourth and the steering was broke.
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Cause I'd flipped at Sharon the week before and steering
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was just wonky.
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So I was out there trying your, you know, your best.
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And then the throttle stuck under yellow.
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And so I was sitting there with my hand pulling the,
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the throttle up off of the floor or trying to hold it shut.
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And it faced them issues.
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I think we finished fifth or sixth. I don't remember.
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Then we were there earlier this year and we started
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maybe 10th at Skyline and they,
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it come down rain and lap two and we were up to like fifth
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right through the center, right through the gut slick.
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Just have a good car there.
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So that's a pretty big weekend.
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That would be the rain.
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If we could go click off a good run at Skyline
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and head north three and a half hours or whatever to Sharon
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and make an Outlaw show there.
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And once you're in the show, then you're just racing.
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So Sharon so far has been the rain all year.
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That's the only place that we've consistently been good at.
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And that probably is a big thanks to Kenny Graber
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who builds a lot of race car parts.
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But more importantly, we built a relationship of
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he'll come and work on a race car specifically Sharon
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cause he's got some 305 guys.
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He helps out at Attica and Fremont.
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So Sharon, I get all the, the attention from him.
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And we're mostly just comfortable.
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I don't, you know, I don't know how great we are,
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but it's really easy to drive race cars when you're comfortable.
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And yeah, I think the rain is all,
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all looks ahead to that Skyline Sharon weekend
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or, you know, running good in the Lou Blaney,
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which goes back to Sharon.
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So we'll, we'll wait for that.
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Hopefully.
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Are you, are you planning to run?
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Is it the outlaw show at Wayne County as well?
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I think there's, they got one more show left.
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Yeah, no, I'm not going to run that.
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One, you got to go to Wayne County with the idea of
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you're going to leave this thing basically
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in the, in the cornfield or in the pond off of two
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or in the guardrail and four.
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Those are the three options you have at Wayne County.
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And if you somehow bring it back in one piece,
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that's a win on its own, you know,
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and we went there one time last year and they got
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all the Attica Fremont cars that night as well.
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And we went around through the B main and sucked.
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I learned it's really hard to be uncomfortable
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running the fence there.
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And comfortable with the thought of, you know,
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this thing, you have to be on the reggae edge of,
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of, you know, disaster.
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And I have this car.
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So I'm not always willing to do that,
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especially that place.
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So I don't have no interest in going,
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I love watching races there.
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That's about all I need to do there though.
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So we'll skip that, that outlaw show.
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Are you guys, I don't, I'm not familiar with the schedule
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like date wise.
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I assume you guys are going to run the gym forward
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at Fremont and then maybe are you doing Attica this weekend?
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So we'll go sharing this weekend.
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We, it's hard for us to get off work.
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I got all my guys work.
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The only one that's, you know, reliably,
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you don't have to ask if they can get off as my grandpa,
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just cause he's retired.
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You know, my buddy Chase who just left,
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he works till 330 every day of the week.
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And as do I, my dad is, he can get off when he wants to,
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but I gotta give him notice.
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And Riley, Evan, they, they both work.
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And it's hard for us to get off on Fridays.
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It's gotta be pretty limited to, to what we want to go race.
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And I don't necessarily need to go race Attica.
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So we'll go to sharing Saturday.
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And then I think we'll do the gym forwards the next weekend,
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I believe we'll go both nights of that.
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Then we'll go, I believe it's the Lou Blaney
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or the outlaw show at Sharon.
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So if it's the outlaw show at Sharon,
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we'll go skyline, Sharon, then back to Sharon
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for Lou Blaney or however that works out.
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So I think those are our last however many races.
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And we got, this will be a busier stretch for us.
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Like we're just not used to racing two nights a week anymore.
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And really I miss doing it.
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It's a lot of fun.
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I wish we could race, you know, three or four nights a week,
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but financially we couldn't and getting off of work wise,
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we could never manage to pull that.
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So it'd be, I'm really excited for this next month,
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this last month, I suppose.
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In for context for those listening,
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we're recording on September 3rd.
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So by the time this episode probably gets released,
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the Ford's gonna be over this week and it'll be over.
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The outlaw show at Sharon and that will probably be over.
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So you're gonna be listening to it
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and kind of like those shows already happened.
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So you're kind of getting the, I would say the preface
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to the book for the rest of this month for Chris.
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So I know you mentioned, you know,
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it's easy for your grandpa to kind of get off
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because he's obviously retired, your dad works,
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Chase works, he was just here at the shop,
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you know, right before he started recording,
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you know, Elizabeth was here, your girlfriend as well.
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For you, and I know we talked, you know,
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in the first two episodes,
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kind of hit with family and supporters and all that
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and kind of only hit that same topic here as well.
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I know your background into racing
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or how you got introduced into it's probably
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a little bit different than I think most people,
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a lot of people get kind of born into it.
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They're in a young age, you know, for me, that was a case.
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For you, I know you've mentioned me or mentioned to me,
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you know, previously kind of throughout the summer,
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that's, you know, a little bit different for you.
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So like, you know, when did you get introduced to it?
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Get to the, you know, kind of this point
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where you're at now with, you know, being behind the wheel
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and then, you know, what's that like with your family?
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Kind of being basically your crew outside of, you know,
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Chase and Elizabeth and maybe a couple other people
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here and there.
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So I, my dad raced back in the 90s,
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back when it was an Econo division,
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may have raced with your dad.
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And they, so that was, I think he went four years
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and then, you know, stopped whatever life gets in the way.
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He won races and I'll shoot,
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should have won a track championship at Attica and,
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so he's always taken me to the races.
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I think, I don't remember if it was my first race,
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but one of my earliest memories of a race was,
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I believe, oh man, now I'm gonna draw a blank here.
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It was either the Bride Doty Classic before it left Attica
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or it was one of their big, big shows.
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And I kept my dad away from the racetrack
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because I had to go to the bathroom
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and I was too young to not be afraid of sitting
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in the bathroom alone in a strange place.
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So that's my first memory of the racetrack,
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but then I started just becoming like an avid fan.
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Like I just loved racing.
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You know, my dad would take us and we'd camp out
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and only usually at the big shows,
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but once I turned 16, I started going to regular shows
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and just becoming, I mean, really engulfed
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with the whole thing, like I just fell in love
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and being from out here where we're hour away
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from the nearest dirt track all the way around,
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I think there's four of them,
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but every single one of them is an hour.
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Nobody knows what racing is,
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so it was hard to find friends to go.
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So I would just go alone if I had to.
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And then I decided, you know, I liked it enough.
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I want to go to UNOH for school, college
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and work on their motor sports team
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or in the high-performance shop, whatever.
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And the summer before I left for school,
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my dad, you know, I had worked on nothing.
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That was realizing now what I know,
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that was going to suck.
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I was in for a reality check.
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So my dad set me up with Mike Linder
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and the whole Linder gang.
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And I jumped on board for that year
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and it was supposed to be with Dale Blaney,
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who, you know, I've watched win what feels like,
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I think 136 All-Star wins.
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I feel like I've been at all of them somehow.
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So that was exciting, you know,
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that's the first guy I ever got to work with
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is the, you know, greatest All-Star guy of all time
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or most winning All-Star guy of all time.
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And I think we did that for maybe two, three years.
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I don't remember working with the Lenders.
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And finally, I don't know how I conned my dad into it.
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I saw a race car for sale by Tim Merrill,
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who's unfortunately passed away now,
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but he had a race car for sale
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and me and Landon LaLonde went up there and looked at it
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because he lives about 15 minutes away from me.
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And he's like, dude, I think you should do it.
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Well, I have nothing to do it with, you know?
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So the next day, I stayed in Fremont that night
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with the Lenders and the next day me,
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Michael and Stephen went over there and on the way home,
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Michael called my dad and said,
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hey, this is the deal.
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If you're gonna do it,
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this is probably a good piece to do it with.
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So my dad loaned me all the money to get started.
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And, you know, luckily my dad's the bank in that situation
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so I don't have interest on it.
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But I, so he technically bought my first race car
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and everything that come with it.
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And I had to pay him back the whole time
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in trying to keep a race car on track and paying back.
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Luckily, like I said, he was the bank.
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So if I was late, I was late, you know?
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But so that was probably at 18, I think, 18 or 19,
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I started racing.
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And I guess I think 19, maybe I don't know.
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It all blends together at some point,
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but we started in a 305 and, you know,
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still helped the Lenders when we weren't racing.
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So I still got to go do Speed Week with them
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and just try to absorb as much knowledge as you can.
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Since after I started with them,
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I didn't even go to college at that point.
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I realized what I wanted to do was sprint cars,
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not, you know, modified or dragsters.
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Whatever, you know, H had to offer.
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So I totally ignored college at that point.
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Went to a community college.
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And so I could still go to the races when I wanted to.
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And yeah, I guess I got hooked there with the drive and deal.
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And sometimes I really would miss being a crew guy.
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Cause crew guys don't have bills to pay.
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But it's, it's, there's a reason people do it for so long.
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It's cause it's exhilarating, fun, whatever,
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whatever gets you off per se.
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But yeah, I, Lenders were honestly just the gateway drug.
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They showed me everything I needed to know, not needed to know,
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but there's a lot of come to Jesus moments with me
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and Michael or me and Steph or I think me and Stephen
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have had them. So they, they, if I was,
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if, if anybody were to get credit for it, it'd be them,
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but they have a lot of guys ahead of me that have,
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that are people are giving them credit for so,
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and they deserve it.
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But yeah, now we're here.
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I don't, I don't know that transition, the 305 to 410 deals.
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Also just got tired of 305 stuff.
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They weren't taking at all back then.
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It was getting pretty obvious.
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Certain guys were winning races that had never really been
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winning races.
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And then, you know, all of a sudden they start taking
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and those guys stopped winning races.
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That's kind of obvious to me.
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I think they even went and run 360 races.
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And, and I don't remember if they won races there or not,
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but so that deal got old.
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My dad got tired of that.
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And he, he told me, you know, keep my eye.
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I don't know if he even told me to keep my eyes out.
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He just kicked it around and talked about it a little bit
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here and there.
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And then one night we were at the races and my dad wasn't
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there, he was home sick.
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And Mark Keegan walked up to me and said,
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Hey, Todd Heller has a motor for sale,
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a 410 if you want to go get it.
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I'm like, and I know that I'm ready for that.
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But yeah, that's okay.
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You know, if he's saying do it, maybe you do it.
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So we went and got it and bolted it in.
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And our first night went, you know,
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exceeded all expectations.
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And yeah, no, we're, I think this is my second year
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running 410s.
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So it's getting to travel.
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Man, that really doesn't, I don't know how guys said it,
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Attica and Fremont and race every weekend the same two places
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and never break the mold, but I'm so glad we're out of it
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and getting to go new places and different places.
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And now we're caught up to where we're at today.
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So I started late and relative, I didn't race any go-karts.
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I didn't race anything at all.
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And jumped into a 305, now to a 410.
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I wanna go back to the lenders here.
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And, you know, I think throughout the,
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I mean, I wanna say the Ohio region,
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but at this point it's almost like national,
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what they have done, not only for the local racing scene,
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but you know, really the national scene as well.
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They've kind of become the benchmark for setting people up
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for success.
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Obviously we've seen it with Carse Meceto.
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You saw it with Buddy now.
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You know, DJ Neto came over for a little bit.
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You know, Cole's been, you know, in that shop quite a bit.
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And you know, it's kind of, I don't say a revolving door,
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it's really not a revolving door, but it's a,
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hey, you're here, get the talent up, get to that point
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and then get to the next step.
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And it's kind of been, you know, pretty successful there.
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And now they're, you know, linked up with, you know,
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Farmer on the motor sports school deal.
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And they're basically running that every single Sunday.
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And all that, you know, obviously Mike is the race director
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now at Fremont on Saturday.
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So he's calling the shots there.
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So, I mean, they're just a local icon
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and legend of the sport here locally.
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And then, like I said, going nationally now.
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But when you were with them, did you, I mean,
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what was like the biggest takeaway that you got from them?
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Was it the skill sets?
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Was it the outlooks on life?
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Was it just kind of the mentality?
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I mean, what stands out to you the most from your time
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with them that you've kind of taken from that
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and used it to get to where you are now?
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Honestly, everything, I was in a really,
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that age of really impressionable.
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Like you're that 17, 18, 19 year old self,
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you think you know everything, you don't know nothing.
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Like you just don't.
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And you're in a spot where people that care about you
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can teach you things.
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And so the first thing that stood out to me
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was their maintenance program,
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their meticulous work ethic with stuff.
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Like, I think the first day I was there, I got told
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if you're staying around, say something, don't wait,
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do not wait for us to tell you what to do.
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If you need something to do, ask.
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Don't be a factory worker is what they always say.
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And so that got instilled right away
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that this isn't gonna be a deal,
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you just get to hang out and have fun, do the cool stuff,
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get victory lane photos, you're gonna work for it.
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That's the start of the racing, the other life deal.
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The life deal.
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Man, yeah, there's been so many lessons that I've learned.
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Just one, for example, me and Mike
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have actually never talked about it,
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but one night we were wanting to go hang out with our buddies
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and I think Howdy Sabo and Chevy Farmer and me,
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Cole Mocedo, a couple other guys I'm sure.
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We're all wanting to go hang out
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and here I used up our race car the week before, I think.
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I was at Lenders tearing it apart that weekend.
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Here I went to the races Friday night and helped somebody
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come back, we wanted to go out that night and
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Steph is like, hey, that car in the garage needs to move.
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And we're like, oh, I'm gonna finish it in the morning.
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And she's like, Mike, I want us to work on the Ranger
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in the morning or something and
503
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,520
probably be smart to get it out of there.
504
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,720
And I'm like, okay, well, you don't realize you're,
505
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,480
you're in a house full of people that,
506
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,720
he's probably a bit miffed, I even went to the races
507
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,240
because my race car was half torn apart.
508
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,200
Probably a little bit pissed, I didn't finish it.
509
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,560
And that was a wake up call too.
510
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,400
I mean, there's millions of those,
511
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,240
too many to think of or to count,
512
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,680
but that one rains in my head a lot.
513
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,680
So it's, I mean, the life stuff, the work stuff,
514
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,360
that's all good and dandy, but there's a reason
515
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:42,480
they get so many guys in and out of there.
516
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,640
They're obsessed with the sport.
517
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,840
Steph has, I think, two TVs in the living room
518
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,360
and it's not two TVs because you gotta have a football game
519
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,320
on one and the race on the other, whatever,
520
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,560
it's two separate races or the other one's just off
521
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,960
if there's only one race on.
522
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,840
It's, she's pretty die hard.
523
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600
And then Mike, just he's so damn smart.
524
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,600
Like he always told me that he didn't know anything
525
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,360
when he started and he didn't know what counter steering was.
526
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:19,680
And now he's one of the best driver coaches.
527
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,880
Honestly, I don't know that there's a lot in the country,
528
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,920
but man, there's not a guy that I'd rather go talk to
529
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,520
if there's, hey, if I'm doing this, should I be doing this
530
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,160
or hey, did I do the right thing here or anything like that?
531
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,280
That guy's just so detail oriented that there's,
532
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000
you don't, you know exactly what you did wrong
533
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000
and he's not gonna be bashful about it.
534
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160
He's gonna tell you he made a shit lap.
535
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,000
So.
536
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,640
And then not only that, but it's like,
537
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,080
we talked, you got the racing lessons
538
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,600
and then there's the life lessons.
539
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,120
And it's like, when you look at the life lessons
540
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,640
that you can get from them,
541
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,560
it's almost surreal on what there is.
542
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Cause you know, Steph and, you know,
543
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,600
I don't know how Mike is personally.
544
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,920
And you know, I've been allows to hang out with any of them,
545
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,560
but like, I know Steph is very spiritual
546
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,120
and is a big, you know, believer
547
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,200
and then the things will happen the way they happen
548
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,040
and now they're supposed to.
549
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,160
And it's like, when you're around that too,
550
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,440
like they're, I mean, she's just so upbeat and positive.
551
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,240
And I think that's very infectious and contagious
552
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,520
to kind of get into other people.
553
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,920
So when you have like, you know, a really bad night
554
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,560
where you junk a race car
555
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,400
or like you come back to the shop
556
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,680
and like the day just, you know, kicks your ass more or less
557
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,680
and you come back and that is what you come home to.
558
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,560
It just, there's like a, I think there'd be like a piece
559
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,120
that you get from that.
560
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:52,120
Like for me, you know, my grandparents are that piece.
561
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,960
I mean, grandma's bless her heart is like a savior to me.
562
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,640
Like I, if my life is rock bottom
563
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,880
and it is spiraling out of control, I go to her.
564
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,520
And it's like, there's just this sense of peace
565
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,040
and tranquility there for me.
566
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,520
And like, I don't get that with my dad.
567
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,680
I love my dad very much, but I don't get that with him.
568
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,760
And anybody that knows him probably can understand why.
569
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,440
Like the guy, I mean, I love him.
570
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,360
He's just dry.
571
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,680
He's very emotionalist, you know, on the, you know,
572
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,480
so for me, I guess my grandparents,
573
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,480
that is where I go to unwind and feel at peace
574
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,840
even if like internally I am fighting World War seven
575
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,160
in my head, like that for me.
576
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,800
And it's like, I look at stuff and I can only imagine
577
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,320
like that is what that household is like.
578
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,080
Like it's just you walk in there and it's take the day,
579
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,640
leave the baggage at the door,
580
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,120
figure it out later, unwind and relax.
581
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:54,200
Yeah, Steph, I have too many stories for Steph,
582
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,520
but she, yeah, every morning, you know,
583
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,680
no matter how you did the night before, you know,
584
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,320
whether it was the worst night imaginable,
585
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,680
I think I've showed up there with crumbled up race cars
586
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,800
and, you know, was staying there to wake up
587
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,280
and work on them the next morning and she don't,
588
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,400
she don't care.
589
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,240
She's gonna come in with a song playing.
590
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,600
She's got all wake up songs for everybody.
591
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,400
So when you hear your song come on,
592
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,160
you man, you just want to turn around
593
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,720
and not yell at her.
594
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,400
Dude, do you know what happened last night?
595
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,240
And she don't care.
596
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,080
It's time to get up.
597
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,880
And that's what she always,
598
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,560
yeah, she just, that's gonna be the pace for the day
599
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,400
is how she wakes you up almost.
600
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,960
And it's usually, you know, morning, brand new day.
601
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,680
Yeah, it's been so long since I worked with them,
602
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,040
but I don't remember her exact quote,
603
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,840
but yeah, the morning deals where you, you know,
604
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,000
like I say, you wake up to your song
605
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,400
and she asks if you want breakfast,
606
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080
and you know, hey, your suit's washed.
607
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,600
You're, you know, if you need a shower, go ahead now.
608
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,600
If you need in the bathroom, go ahead now.
609
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,480
And then the nights that that suck, you know,
610
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,520
and she is just the type of person
611
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,840
that she knows when nights suck.
612
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,160
First off, she's not, she knows racing.
613
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,280
So those texts where she, you know,
614
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040
you get a text on the way home, driving home
615
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,640
and get, hey, love you son.
616
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,720
Those nights are tough,
617
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,560
but it makes you feel so much better just knowing, you know,
618
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840
hey, I know what you're, you're going through here.
619
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,280
And it's going to get better kind of deal.
620
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,200
So she's definitely the peace keeper there.
621
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,200
She's the, the upbeat energy there.
622
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,440
She, if you're not out in the shop
623
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,360
by eight, nine o'clock in the morning,
624
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,840
she's, she's in, you know, letting you know.
625
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,520
And that's a great person to have around a group of guys
626
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320
that, you know, probably stay up too late talking about racing
627
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,120
and, you know, never, ever drinking,
628
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,960
just stay up late cause the whole group's obsessed.
629
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,960
So, yeah, Steph's a special person in general.
630
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,960
She's like a mom to me.
631
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,040
I've gone to her with things
632
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,360
that I've never gone to anybody with.
633
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,800
And, and Michael's like a dad to me,
634
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,920
but he's definitely the, like you said that, you know,
635
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,840
you're, you don't get to them when you,
636
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,120
you're feeling bad for yourself
637
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,360
cause they're not going to help you out on that too much.
638
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,080
He'll let you know when you, you messed up or, or whatever.
639
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,560
So that dynamic, they just work so well together
640
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,560
and honestly teach life lessons without even trying,
641
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,920
I'm sure, but.
642
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Do you, now that you've kind of,
643
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,520
I don't want to say out grungs,
644
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,480
you really, you don't ever outgrow something like that,
645
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,400
but since you've, you've moved on a little bit,
646
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,480
now you're kind of on your own and you're, you're,
647
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080
you know, you're, you're figuring out your way
648
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,160
and the way that works best for you.
649
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Do you, do you have times now where you're kind of like,
650
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,720
maybe you start to gain your head,
651
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,800
like you start to beat yourself up a little bit
652
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:25,240
and you need to go back to when you were in that period
653
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,800
with them and kind of try to bring up like memories
654
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200
or something that kind of like bring back in your head,
655
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,720
like lessons or something like that.
656
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920
Like do you still go back to those times frequently
657
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600
on your own to get through what you're going through now?
658
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,720
Or did you kind of gotten to the point where
659
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,680
you have those lessons instilled now
660
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,840
and now you've kind of taken them and put your own twist
661
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,000
or like your own methodology to it?
662
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Like how do you, how do you get through it now
663
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680
where you don't necessarily have that access
664
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,680
that you did before?
665
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Yeah, a little bit of both, you know,
666
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,600
I'll still reach out to them.
667
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,160
You know, I try to leave it to where I'm getting desperate
668
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,400
before I reach out.
669
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,160
And yeah, you just look back at, you know,
670
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,520
how did even their driver, you know,
671
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,680
how did buddy handle things or how did Carson,
672
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,480
I think the one year we had eight different drivers
673
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,600
or something like that.
674
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,200
And so those lessons, you know, you can take back from,
675
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,160
but everything's also so different, you know,
676
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,760
you, they have a bad night where, you know,
677
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,600
say something broke or an engine broke or whatever.
678
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,200
And yeah, it stinks, but at the end of the day,
679
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,200
it's just a lot of work for us that, you know,
680
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,200
something breaks or we tear up a race car
681
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,480
or you know, whatever happens.
682
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Those lessons are pretty out the window
683
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,680
because it's a totally different scenario.
684
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,200
I didn't mind bolting race cars together every week
685
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,200
when buddy would, you know, smoke a wall
686
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,840
or just whatever effort gets you in certain places.
687
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,840
So I'll fix race cars based off effort all day,
688
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,440
but when you do it on your own stuff,
689
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,920
it sucks pretty bad because it's coming out of your pocket.
690
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,960
But yeah, I don't know.
691
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,760
I think it just set me up in the right mindset
692
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920
of how to get through things.
693
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Like just, I don't know, if you're well-prepared,
694
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,360
you're gonna be in a good place.
695
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880
Well, I went to the right place to learn
696
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,360
about being well-prepared.
697
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,120
And Michael got in my ass the one year
698
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,240
because, you know, every time we show up,
699
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,680
we'd still be working on stuff.
700
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,840
And basically just got told that's unacceptable.
701
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,640
And that people take notice on stuff like that.
702
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,000
And now I'm the same way.
703
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,480
If we roll the trailer or unload the trailer
704
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,520
and there's anything to work on,
705
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,760
I'm in a pretty bad mood.
706
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,760
So yeah, just situational is how they prepare you.
707
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440
And I can use it now.
708
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,720
I can use it 30 years down the road.
709
00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,720
You know, Michael made it.
710
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,360
I'll say he made it pretty,
711
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,320
you just goes back to your quote deal.
712
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,400
It's not really a quote, it's more of a mindset,
713
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,440
but there's two things you control in life
714
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,920
that nobody can affect.
715
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Nobody can ever take it away from you
716
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,920
and that's your attitude and your effort.
717
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,280
And so if your attitude's good and your effort's good,
718
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,280
well, you know, the situations in your hands essentially,
719
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,800
like, again, I preach that to my players now
720
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,360
that if you come in here with the right attitude
721
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,440
and the right effort, man, we are gonna be a problem,
722
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,800
you know, especially if I get all 10 of you to do it.
723
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,280
So I've tried to take that outlook to life,
724
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,240
but it's easier said than done.
725
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:04,240
Yeah, attitude just plays such a major role, I think,
726
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,520
in everything we do, and I don't think
727
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,920
we respect that aspect enough.
728
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,640
So like I know for me, I, you know,
729
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,680
obviously right now I'm in automotive sales,
730
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,040
I work nearly six days a week, you know,
731
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,640
I get Fridays off and I usually work the Fridays,
732
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,240
but like Saturdays, you know, I go to work
733
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,560
and I wake up at 7.30, I get there about eight o'clock,
734
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,200
I'm there till three PM if I get out on time.
735
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,400
And it's like, all right, I have now lost
736
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,000
the beginning of my Saturday.
737
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,240
And it's like, I look at the clock,
738
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,520
I look at the schedule, I look at Fremont's Facebook page
739
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
and I'm like, cool, Gates opened at four,
740
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,200
racing at seven, you know, typical or whatever.
741
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,400
So it's, you know, fly out of work, you know,
742
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,280
for the first half of this year I was living
743
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,120
just outside of Fremont, but it was like stop at the house,
744
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,520
change, you know, maybe grab a bite to eat.
745
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,520
You know, I was living with somebody,
746
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,120
it was like, you know, talk to them a little bit, you know,
747
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,000
have a conversation there and kind of let them know
748
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,560
what's going on, like, you know, you're trying to make
749
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,280
the most of your time that you have
750
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,000
and then it's, you get to the racetrack.
751
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,360
And I'm lucky in the position that I'm in
752
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,160
that I don't have to get there as early
753
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,160
because I don't have to unload a car or anything.
754
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,760
But like for me, it's, you know, I still got to get there
755
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,360
somewhat early because if I have, you know,
756
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,480
all these artistic visions in my head,
757
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,280
like I'll scroll through Instagram or TikTok or whatever
758
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,400
and I'll see a video on a big, I really like that art design,
759
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,560
I want to try to copy that.
760
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,600
I got to get there early to probably get half the footage
761
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,280
because a lot of it's behind the scene stuff
762
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,520
and, you know, I want to get situated
763
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,720
and if I'm going to mount GoPro's,
764
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,160
I got to find who I want to mount them on
765
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,240
and I got to, you know, kind of work around the crews
766
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,080
and it's just, there's a lot of stuff that I have to do
767
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:02,080
but there have been days where I just wake up
768
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,080
in a bad mood with a poor attitude
769
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,920
and I go through the work day and it's like, oh, this sucks.
770
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,200
Like I'll go through a work day on a Saturday
771
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,440
and I won't sell a car.
772
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,320
And like that is, you know, in sales,
773
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,880
like that's the worst feeling
774
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,160
because like Saturday's your busiest day.
775
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,400
If you don't sell a car on Saturday, you have sucked
776
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,600
and it's like, I won't sell a car, I'll leave.
777
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,720
And like, I didn't make any money today.
778
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:25,880
I just worked for nothing
779
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,480
and now I have to go work basically again
780
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,560
until 10 p.m. or whatever.
781
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,480
And it's like you go home, you grab your camera,
782
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,840
you're still in a bad mood.
783
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,640
The bad mood, you then kind of, for me,
784
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,840
I am really bad at projecting.
785
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,120
Like if I'm in a bad mood,
786
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,960
it's gonna be someone else's problem.
787
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
And like, I hate that, like I'm like that
788
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,040
and I try not to be and I'm trying to like really focus
789
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,720
on that but I have had a very bad problem with that
790
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,680
and I like, it's just, I project it.
791
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,120
So then it causes issues there
792
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,360
and that makes the mood even worse.
793
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,880
So then by the time I get to the track,
794
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,880
I'm like, I do not want to be here.
795
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,320
I would rather be at home, I'd rather be asleep.
796
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Like I could think of three million things
797
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,480
I'd rather do than be at this race track right now.
798
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,720
Or it's, I'd rather be here
799
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,480
but I'd rather just be sitting in the stands with my dad
800
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,000
and not have any responsibilities.
801
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160
But like once I get there and I'm in that mindset,
802
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,240
like anything that I thought about doing,
803
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,600
it escapes my mind, I'm not thinking about it.
804
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,760
I walk up to, you know, whatever trailer
805
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,080
I'm gonna keep my stuff in usually, great.
806
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,400
This season, Andrews has been a huge, huge help.
807
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,280
Like I've used this trailer, I think almost every night
808
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,400
at free mile, like just putting it in there.
809
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,400
I think I used your trailer at the beginning of the year.
810
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,160
And it's kind of just who's there
811
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,160
and like who's kind of closer to the insurance
812
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,680
of the pits so I can get across or whatever.
813
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,480
But like I just, I'll sit in there and get my camera ready
814
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,920
and I just don't wanna do it.
815
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,200
And then I'm ready, I got the camera in my hand,
816
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,480
I'm ready to go.
817
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,480
And I'm like, I think I'm just gonna stand here for a minute.
818
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Like I don't know what I wanna shoot.
819
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,360
I have no idea what I wanna do.
820
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,880
And yeah, and that's like my mindset.
821
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,040
Like I am just, I am spaced out.
822
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,840
That's why I'm really happy racing right now.
823
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,840
We went three or four years chasing points
824
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,520
and going to AFCS Steel, which Duane does an amazing job with.
825
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,240
And I'm still fortunate enough to have a cool guy help me
826
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:41,480
or pay for it to be on there or with the AFCS.
827
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,240
But man, just not points chasing.
828
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,480
Like if we don't wanna go to race track, we don't go.
829
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,960
If there's a 40% chance it's gonna rain,
830
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,800
we're gonna sit at home, get in the pool
831
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,400
and hope it don't rain at home.
832
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,400
So, and if I had unlimited budget or higher budget
833
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,920
and then maybe that is something that I'd,
834
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,920
man, who cares, we'll just go race.
835
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,240
That's just time, money and effort.
836
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:06,520
That's all that is.
837
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,200
That's the easiest parts of life, right?
838
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,040
It is.
839
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,960
And I think when I am in those bad attitude,
840
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,840
like mental states, like that's like,
841
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,360
for me, I think what gets me the most,
842
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,400
it's like, I don't have to be here.
843
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,920
I don't, not getting paid to be there.
844
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,960
It's not like they're like, hey, $500 you show up tonight.
845
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,800
Like I do a lot.
846
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,960
I mean, I do it all for the love of the sport
847
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,120
and for the love of content creation.
848
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,000
But it's like, I just, I wanna be somewhere else.
849
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,040
And this summer with everything that was happening
850
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,040
in my life and it's like, I wanted to be somewhere else.
851
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,320
And now I look back on it and I'm like,
852
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,760
I would have rather just been home.
853
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,320
And I'm like, it's not that I don't love the racetrack.
854
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,960
It's not that I don't wanna necessarily be there.
855
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,040
But it's like, they're just,
856
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,560
I've kind of gotten to the point now where
857
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,560
I've realized there's just so much more to life than racing.
858
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,640
And I know that that's such a weird concept
859
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,720
to like put out there and people gonna be like,
860
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:17,360
well, why are you even doing a podcast then?
861
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,880
Like I love the sport, I wanna grow the sport in all that.
862
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,000
But like at the end of the day,
863
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,360
if you told me it's, you can do the rest of your life
864
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:34,360
with racing and your personal life would suffer for it
865
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,840
or whatever, or you could do 25% of the races
866
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,600
that you're doing now, but your personal life,
867
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520
you would have everything you ever wanted.
868
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,360
I would be like, I'll go 25% racing.
869
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,640
For me, like my life doesn't necessarily revolve around it.
870
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
It's a big part of it, but like I just got to the point
871
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,600
where there's just bigger things in life.
872
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,240
And I've just kind of realized like,
873
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,040
it's okay to stay home.
874
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,560
It's okay to not wanna go.
875
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,480
And like, I kind of look at Attica, for example,
876
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,800
like I've told Justin, this guy,
877
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,880
like I'm gonna get you a video, I'm gonna get you a video.
878
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,800
And I really wanted to go last weekend
879
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,160
for the ambushed two night show, at least one of the nights.
880
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,280
And obviously Saturday got rained out, but like Friday,
881
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,760
you know, I'm driving home and I'm like,
882
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,000
I could still get to Attica on time
883
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,920
if I went straight there.
884
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,840
But I was watching someone's dog, you know,
885
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,680
it means a lot to me and I was in a place that
886
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,560
felt like home, like I was at peace where I was at.
887
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,640
And I was just like, you know what?
888
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,640
I am not gonna go to Attica.
889
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,960
I have another week I can do it.
890
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,680
Hopefully it don't rain.
891
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,720
I need to do what is gonna be best for me tonight.
892
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:54,720
And for me, like I said at a point like that's just,
893
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,920
there are times where that's gonna be racing
894
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,520
and there's times where it's not.
895
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,000
Millstream the other week, that is what, you know,
896
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,840
let's go to Millstream.
897
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,960
That's gonna be the best for me right now.
898
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,520
Like I need to do something.
899
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,080
I can't sit here at my grandparents
900
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,640
and rot my brain away.
901
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,760
Let's go to Millstream.
902
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,440
And there's gonna be times where it's like,
903
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,280
I don't want to.
904
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,440
Like I look at four crowns going up.
905
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,600
I will go to that race.
906
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,440
I don't care.
907
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,840
That is like my, one of my favorite races of the year.
908
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,760
That's my getaway.
909
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,160
That's gonna be my mental health day.
910
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Like for me, it's like perfect.
911
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,880
And I just, I've gotten to this point,
912
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,080
I just pick my battles, I think more wisely.
913
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,080
And I've kind of have sucked at that a lot.
914
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,240
And been like, I pick this one.
915
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,240
And then that one bites me in the ass like a month later.
916
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:42,200
And then I look at the other one
917
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,400
and I'm like, I should have went with that.
918
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,240
And I don't.
919
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680
And now it's like, I'm just more mindful of those things.
920
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040
And I'm like, what happens if I do this?
921
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,120
What happens if I do that?
922
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,800
And if I don't do either, where's that put me?
923
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,000
And it's just kind of like stuff like that.
924
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Like I'm at, just like I said, at a point,
925
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,160
like racing means a lot to me,
926
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,440
but it's not everything.
927
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,080
I don't do this for a living.
928
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,080
You know, if the opportunity arose
929
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,840
to where I could just do content creation for a living,
930
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,760
I would probably do it for a little bit at least.
931
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,720
But like it's not, it's a hobby, I guess you could say.
932
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,560
Or something I just like doing, but it's,
933
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,520
there are bigger things to life than that.
934
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,960
And it's like, we talk about winners and the life lessons.
935
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,400
And there's just so many things I take from racing
936
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,960
into my own life that I can kind of be like, cool.
937
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,960
And I talked to Zane when we were doing the episode one.
938
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,080
And I don't think it actually made the final cut
939
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,520
of the podcast, but, and of course,
940
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,640
if you're listening to this, you're gonna listen to episode one,
941
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,560
but we did have a, we had a discussion
942
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:49,520
about the perfect lap.
943
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,080
And I was like, the perfect lap doesn't actually exist.
944
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,200
Like you watch Ford versus Ferrari
945
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,720
and he talks about the perfect lap.
946
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:01,160
And I'm like, it doesn't exist.
947
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Because I could sit here and say,
948
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,600
Lee Jacobs' track record on three months, the perfect lap.
949
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,920
Sure, it's a perfect lap until somebody someday beats it.
950
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,600
And then you're gonna be like, well, that's the perfect lap.
951
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,320
And I was like, well, you said that was a perfect lap.
952
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,800
So which one is it?
953
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,480
Cause if it was perfect, it wouldn't get beat.
954
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,040
And I kind of just look at that in life as general.
955
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,760
It's like, I thought that was a perfect lap.
956
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,520
The hindsight's 2020, that was not the perfect lap.
957
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,520
I could have done something completely different.
958
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,480
I could have went this way.
959
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,040
I zigged when I should have zagged.
960
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,000
I did the spin move when I should have juked
961
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,280
and all this stuff.
962
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,080
And it's, you know, I just, like I take that
963
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,360
from racing into my own life and use it to build
964
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,640
where I'm currently at.
965
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,640
And, you know, it's just, it's weird how that correlates.
966
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,960
But like in a way, if you can connect the dots,
967
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,840
connect the dots.
968
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,240
But you can only do that looking back.
969
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:00,680
And that's another quote.
970
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,400
I had, you know, I recently had just heard it.
971
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,320
So, you know, you can't, can I think it,
972
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,240
it might be a Steve Jobs quote,
973
00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:10,480
but you can't connect the dots looking forward
974
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,440
because you don't know where the dots are at.
975
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,720
But you can look in the past and connect the dots
976
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,280
and find out exactly how you got to where you're at.
977
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,720
And it's like, whoa, like that makes so much sense.
978
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:23,320
Cause if I draw a line from the dot
979
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,160
where I'm currently at today and I drew it 45 degrees
980
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,200
upwards and I said, I think this is where the dots
981
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,160
are gonna be tomorrow, I am setting myself up
982
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,680
for disappointment or something like that
983
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,720
because the dot that is gonna happen tomorrow
984
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:38,320
is actually gonna be 180 degrees
985
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,720
the complete opposite direction.
986
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,440
But a week from now, when I go back
987
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,160
and I connect the dots for all seven days
988
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,440
and I say, I was here on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
989
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, back to Monday.
990
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,640
And I'm like, ah, it makes sense.
991
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,000
And then you zoom out, like a connect the dots,
992
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,080
you know, art project and you're like,
993
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,280
ah, look, it's a beautiful picture.
994
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,440
It's, you know, I have kind of just let go.
995
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,840
I'm trying to force things.
996
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,280
And I'm like, when it happens, it happens.
997
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,120
And I'll look back on it and be grateful for the journey.
998
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,080
When you said something about, you know,
999
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,440
the racing and personal life deal,
1000
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,920
I think a lot of kids that grew up in racing
1001
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,680
don't realize there's stuff outside where you've traveled,
1002
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,400
you've gone, you know, the military,
1003
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,160
the, you know, falling the rock band, what not.
1004
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,120
And, or whatever band they,
1005
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,000
you just get to experience new things.
1006
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,600
I grew up in a place where racing wasn't a thing really.
1007
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,480
And all my friends, I played, you know,
1008
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,800
three sports growing up and all the way through high school
1009
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,120
and had, you know, lifelong friends that,
1010
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,160
they knew what racing was, maybe, you know, best friends
1011
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,680
that had stopped at a couple of races.
1012
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,560
And then, you know, and you were okay with pushing things
1013
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,400
off with them.
1014
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Oh, man, they get it, they get it.
1015
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,120
You know, they, that's one of the guys that understands
1016
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,800
that I'm going to the races.
1017
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,040
And he knows what it means to me.
1018
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,880
So it's fine.
1019
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,760
But, you know, then I lost one.
1020
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,360
And, you know, my best friend, I lost him.
1021
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,720
And that was a reality that set it into me
1022
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,960
that, you know, there's so much more to life than racing.
1023
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,440
I look back at every single time I told him no, hanging out
1024
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,400
because we were doing stuff with the race car,
1025
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,240
you know, going racing or whatever.
1026
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:27,680
And I regret those times.
1027
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,920
So, and you said hindsight's, you know, 2020, but
1028
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,640
there's a lot of people around you that don't realize
1029
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,640
or that do realize what you're doing.
1030
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,320
And it's honestly, I sit back sometimes
1031
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,480
and I feel selfish where, hey, we're like lack.
1032
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,640
A couple of weeks ago, we were going to Sharon and it's gonna rain.
1033
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,400
You know, it's just a matter of at what time it rains.
1034
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,400
And so, we, you know, everybody tracked out there,
1035
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:09,920
grandparents, you know, dad's girlfriend, all my crew guys,
1036
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,280
my girlfriend, I think she was there.
1037
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,400
She might have stayed home.
1038
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,520
I don't remember, but if she stayed home, she was smart.
1039
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520
But you get there and you know, it's gonna rain out.
1040
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,920
You get past qualifying and here it comes, it rains.
1041
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,720
Well, now everybody gets tracked back
1042
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,680
and they get tracked back dirty.
1043
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,600
So, we, yeah, you don't realize sometimes
1044
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,360
how selfish you're being and it's okay
1045
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,840
to take the weekends off, you know, a weekend off here or there.
1046
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,960
I, I had the very
1047
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,520
forefront of this all, I'm a race fan.
1048
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:51,040
Like there's guys that I, I've passed and I thought, holy shit.
1049
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,240
Like I just, I think my first nine to four 10, I passed Brian Smith
1050
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:58,960
and I watched Brian my whole life, you know, grew up watching Brian.
1051
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,960
And I got to his outside and I thought, holy shit,
1052
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,120
I'm passing Brian Smith.
1053
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,120
This is, this is like unfathomable young Chris, you know?
1054
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,520
And so I look back a lot and just realized like, man,
1055
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,640
little young Chris would be so stoked about this.
1056
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,040
And that's, that's cool.
1057
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,520
But, you know, I get, I get to be a race car driver.
1058
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:26,960
I get to go to the racetrack.
1059
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:27,960
I get to race.
1060
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,760
Like how fortunate am I?
1061
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,800
How cool is that?
1062
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,360
Like there's so many, like you said,
1063
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,240
you feel like you have to go to Fremont or, you know,
1064
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:40,440
you have a bad day and you, you know, man, I, I have those days.
1065
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,120
Even when we're going to the racetrack and I want to go, I'm like,
1066
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:48,120
I'll be driving, man, you know, we could be sitting at home,
1067
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,280
whether I don't play a lot of video games, but, you know,
1068
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,920
if we want to sit at home, play video games,
1069
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,040
sit at home, drink some beer in the pool or, or, you know,
1070
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,720
just do whatever, do anything other than race.
1071
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:00,560
That'd be okay.
1072
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,600
But man, how cool is it that I get to go race tonight?
1073
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,600
I get to strap behind, you know, a beast and go do whatever.
1074
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,600
That's one of the coolest things, especially to, you know,
1075
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,000
a younger version of myself.
1076
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,880
This is the coolest thing in the world.
1077
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,640
I still think it's probably one of the coolest things
1078
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,480
in the world.
1079
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Michael Ender always tells me it's the most fun you can have
1080
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,520
with your pants on.
1081
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,840
I've heard that one before.
1082
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,080
I've heard that one before.
1083
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,480
He's pretty spot on.
1084
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,880
So yeah, you just, that's how I've always changed my attitude
1085
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,720
with it.
1086
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:41,000
I'll be, I'll be a little pissy or grumpy or, or whatever.
1087
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,640
And man, I get to go drive a race car tonight.
1088
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,280
And, and if I'm grumpy or too grumpy before,
1089
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,440
we just don't go, you know, and it's, it's just changed
1090
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,440
my whole look on life, whether, you know, it was losing
1091
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,440
my best friend or, or just come to Jesus or, you know,
1092
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,520
reality hit you in the face kind of moment where there is
1093
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,280
so much more to, to life than the racing.
1094
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,520
And it's just the coolest part of your life, honestly,
1095
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,640
but don't mean it's not taxing and tolling.
1096
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,400
And, you know, there's work that goes on that nobody knows
1097
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,440
about, you know, it's 940 now and I don't know how long
1098
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,240
we've been recording, but it's a, we're working on a race car.
1099
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,280
You know, shoe, we just found out we got a front axle
1100
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,440
that needs pulled in the morning.
1101
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:31,440
So it's, it looks like a lot of fun.
1102
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:36,440
All of it does, but a lot of fans, fans don't see, you know,
1103
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,760
what goes on behind.
1104
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,000
I know everybody says that.
1105
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,600
And I know your goal here is get a little bit beyond the visor,
1106
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,760
not just in shops and whatnot, cause you know how it goes
1107
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,440
with, you know, your data racing and whatnot, but,
1108
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,440
yeah, the, the fact that you're getting out here,
1109
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,880
spread that whole message of like, honestly, to me,
1110
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,440
beyond the visor means there's beyond racing.
1111
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,440
Like there's so much more to life than it.
1112
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,440
Now you get a full time race car driver for, you know, race
1113
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,440
for a living that, that is their life.
1114
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,440
So they are going to speak differently, but, you know, we go
1115
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,440
to work every day in the morning and, and half the clock in
1116
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,440
and, you know, do your job.
1117
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,440
And those guys I feel, I know what that feels like.
1118
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,440
It still feels like work, but man, how fortunate are you to,
1119
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,440
to get to work on these things for a living or race these things
1120
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,440
for a living?
1121
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,440
So it's, it's just such a, you know, just this, an aspect
1122
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,440
of life or that you got to look at.
1123
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,440
Yeah.
1124
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,440
You look at like, you know, guys like Brian Reed and, you
1125
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,440
know, a couple other of them, like, you know, Byron's like,
1126
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,440
I, you know, that kind of stepping away.
1127
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,440
He, I mean, he announced this, I mean, years ago that he was
1128
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,440
kind of going to cut back because he went to spend time
1129
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,440
with his family and he, you know, now he's, he's out of it
1130
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,440
with, you know, once be with the kids and, and stuff like that.
1131
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,440
And as like a fan, you know, you kind of look at it and you're
1132
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,440
like, okay, like, yeah, I guess that makes sense.
1133
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,440
Like the kids, you know, got sports on the weekend, like that
1134
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,440
checks out and, you know, you and I can, you know, probably,
1135
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:18,440
you know, both the tests, I can really attest up until 2007,
1136
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:23,440
but it's not just a weekend deal.
1137
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,440
Like it's, you don't just lose the weekends.
1138
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:33,440
Like I, like can vividly remember, you know, every day of a
1139
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,440
summer being at my grandparents because the race car
1140
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:38,440
needed work done.
1141
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,440
Like I can remember, you know, 2005, 2006 when my dad drove
1142
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,440
for farmer, like we were in Fremont at the shop.
1143
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,440
It felt like every other day just working and it was like,
1144
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,440
all right, we're off work, you're done with school.
1145
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,440
Fremont, we go, we're there, we go home at like nine o'clock
1146
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,440
and you go to sleep.
1147
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,440
And it's like, I, you know, I played baseball in school.
1148
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,440
I played baseball in the summers, you know, all that.
1149
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,440
And it was like, you're just trying to manage both of those
1150
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,440
things.
1151
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,440
And it's like the kids, you know, I, you know, it's grown up.
1152
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:11,440
My dad's trying to spend time there.
1153
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,440
And I am very fortunate.
1154
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,440
My dad, I think, went to almost every single one of my baseball
1155
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,440
games, except if they were like super far away games in high
1156
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,440
school.
1157
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,440
And I was out of racing, but it's like, you know, I got fortunate
1158
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,440
enough.
1159
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,440
I think by the time I was at a point where I was playing very
1160
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,440
competitive sports, like high school baseball or travel type
1161
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,440
baseball, like my dad was out of the racing scene.
1162
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,440
So it made it easier.
1163
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,440
But, you know, you, you see these guys pull out and you're like,
1164
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,440
okay, I can get that.
1165
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,440
But like, it's not just a Friday, Saturday thing.
1166
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,440
It is a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday thing.
1167
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,440
And for me, it's, you know, you talked about losing a best friend.
1168
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,440
And it's like, like I said, I was going to, you know, working from
1169
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,440
eight to three on a Saturday and I'd go home, grab my stuff and
1170
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,440
go to the racetrack.
1171
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,440
I would be lucky if I got home at 11 o'clock.
1172
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,440
And it's like, by the time I got home, you know, my girlfriend at
1173
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:08,440
the time is asleep.
1174
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,440
And if she's not asleep, she's probably getting ready to go to
1175
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,440
sleep.
1176
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,440
So, you know, you walk into the house, it's 11 p.m.
1177
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,440
You're the only person great and use the dog.
1178
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,440
And you're out of dirt tracks, so you have to shower.
1179
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,440
You know, I'm not going to leave my camera equipment out of my
1180
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,440
truck.
1181
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,440
So like, I got to bring it all in and I'm trying to be quiet and
1182
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,440
blah, blah, blah, you know, and once you're showered and you're
1183
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,440
like ready for bed, it's almost midnight and on some nights it's
1184
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,440
1 a.m.
1185
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,440
And you get in bed and you like try to be quiet because you don't
1186
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,440
want to wake them up and then you go to sleep.
1187
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,440
You wake up the next day and it's Sunday and you're like, oh,
1188
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,440
okay, you stretch in the morning and you're like, oh, cool.
1189
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,440
It's been time together.
1190
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,440
I got editing, I got to do.
1191
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,440
So it's, you know, do whatever I got to do around the house.
1192
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,440
And I was really bad at retrospect.
1193
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,440
Like, you do whatever you got in the house and you're editing.
1194
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,440
And I'd probably edit, like, it was nights.
1195
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,440
I'd edit from 2 o'clock to like 10 p.m.
1196
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:10,440
And she would, you know, check in every hour or so and be like, how's
1197
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,440
it going?
1198
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,440
And I'm like, I'm, and I'd have like two clips edited.
1199
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,440
Like I sat there for an hour and I got two clips in and I'm scrolling
1200
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,440
through YouTube trying to find copyright free music.
1201
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,440
And she's like, how are you doing?
1202
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,440
I'm like, I don't know.
1203
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,440
And then I'm sitting there and she comes back in and it repeats.
1204
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,440
And it's like six o'clock at that point.
1205
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,440
You're like, what are we going to do for dinner?
1206
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:35,440
I don't really know.
1207
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:39,440
Luckily, like we kind of took Sundays as like our lazy day and just did
1208
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,440
corn dogs or we'd go to Woody's or something.
1209
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,440
It's like, then you go eat.
1210
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,440
And then once you're done eating, like you're right back to editing.
1211
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:51,440
And it was like, you just lose, I was losing entire weekends, basically,
1212
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,440
to racing and video editing and content creation.
1213
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,440
And I was kind of like, this is like, it's going to pay off one day
1214
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,440
on the content creation side, but like, what's the cost?
1215
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,440
And like the cost at this point was pretty much everything.
1216
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,440
Like, and there's, there's much more to it than just the racing aspect.
1217
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:18,440
But like, I look back at it now and I'm like, the job I'm working on today job
1218
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,440
is not great.
1219
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,440
You know, I'm going to get home three hours a day and then, you know,
1220
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,440
I'm losing my weekends and all this stuff.
1221
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,440
And it's like, now I look back on it.
1222
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,440
And if I could do it differently, I would 100% would, but, you know,
1223
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,440
I can't change it now.
1224
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,440
It's too late.
1225
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,440
But I just, it's like, I feel that losing a best friend thing.
1226
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:43,440
Cause like ultimately, like I lost my best friend and I look at the racing thing
1227
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,440
and I say, you know, that's part of it.
1228
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,440
And she was supportive of racing in general and she enjoyed it.
1229
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:55,440
And our, one of our first dates, we went to Attica once and it rained out.
1230
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,440
I think right after hot laps or something like that.
1231
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,440
And we drove back from Attica and I dropped her off at her house, whatever.
1232
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,440
And I had a mountain dew bottle, my passenger seat or in my cup holder
1233
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,440
and she grabbed it and started using it as a microphone to like ask me questions.
1234
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,440
And it's like, in my head, like it's just searing in my mind is like this core memory.
1235
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:17,440
And I correlate that memory to racing and it's a great memory and it's awesome.
1236
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,440
But then I correlate some of these more recent ones and I'm like racing costs me my best friend.
1237
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,440
And it's like the best of both worlds.
1238
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,440
Like it is the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.
1239
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,440
And like I, it's not like the highest highs is me winning a race and the lowest lows is me wrecking a race car.
1240
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,440
The highest highs is me having this awesome memory that I'm going to remember for the rest of my life.
1241
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,440
And the lowest lows is me looking at racing and saying, this probably cost me this.
1242
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,440
I have to accept that.
1243
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,440
And like now, you know, this is two nights in a row.
1244
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:52,440
I've recorded an episode for the podcast and it's like, I'm doing this now because I don't have to give the time outside of this.
1245
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,440
Like at this point, this is all focused eyes around this.
1246
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:03,440
But you know, it's like, if I was in a situation where I was, I'd be like, I probably wouldn't even start this podcast to be honest.
1247
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,440
And it's just like, it's crazy to me.
1248
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,440
And it's like, right now I'm all, I'm all for it.
1249
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:15,440
One day I'm going to get to the point where I'm going to be like, right, probably need to dial back a little bit and say,
1250
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,440
there are life things to attend to.
1251
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,440
You cannot be all 100% racing right now.
1252
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:26,440
And luckily for me and the winner, like winner hits the content creation kind of stop like the podcast.
1253
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,440
We know we'll try to do episodes in the winter because it's probably one of the better times to do it.
1254
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,440
But like there's no editing that really needs to be done.
1255
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,440
So like my whole plan for the winter is I'm going to go to, I got season tickets to Toledo Walleye.
1256
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,440
I'm going to go to like half those games.
1257
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,440
I'm going to enjoy myself.
1258
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,440
And then when March and April comes back around, it's right back to the grind and we go from there.
1259
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,440
Yeah. Yeah, that's hi.
1260
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,440
I signed up for the basketball coaching deal.
1261
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,440
And I guess I didn't really sign up.
1262
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:56,440
I try to tell my friend, no, but I'm really fortunate or excited that I said yes.
1263
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,440
So there goes my off season.
1264
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,440
That's going to, I think, picks up here.
1265
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,440
I think I got to go meet with them next week.
1266
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:14,440
And then I'll get out of it and March, I believe is, I believe Mark something is the state championship.
1267
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,440
Not that we're, I'd like to go there.
1268
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,440
It'd be cool, but you got to be a little realistic at times.
1269
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,440
So that would be the very last week of the season.
1270
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,440
So that's the winner right there.
1271
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:39,440
And so on top of that, be tearing apart, race cars and getting motors rebuilt and, you know, try to find free time beyond basketball.
1272
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:51,440
And I tell you, my family is incredible about it where my dad's girlfriend, she's new to all this hadn't been to a race.
1273
01:01:51,440 --> 01:02:00,440
I'm not sure she knew what a race car was before they got together and she's been incredible.
1274
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:09,440
Whether it's, it's almost another Steph presence of like, Hey, you know, everything's fine.
1275
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,440
Or you're sitting there doubting yourself.
1276
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,440
And the one night she just walked up and she said, you realize what just happened?
1277
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:20,440
I said, yeah, I went out in turn, maybe the worst lap I've ever created myself.
1278
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,440
And she's like, no, after that.
1279
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:29,440
Nope, I've been pissed off since and she's like, those four guys just come up to you and asked you, you know,
1280
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,440
whatever questions.
1281
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,440
And it was all based on racing.
1282
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,440
And she said, you're not done.
1283
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,440
They asked you what your opinions were on the racetrack.
1284
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:52,440
So you have some sort of, you know, brain or whatever, they know you can do it or they wouldn't ask you.
1285
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,440
So I just calmed out, you know, go back to go be a racer.
1286
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:02,440
Like, and I was, that was like, I don't know, maybe your second month in the racing.
1287
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,440
And she was already calling me out on my, my being a baby thing.
1288
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,440
And that was pretty funny, but she was right.
1289
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:13,440
And my mom, she don't go to the races much really hardly at all.
1290
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,440
I don't, I'm her baby.
1291
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,440
I joke, but I'm serious.
1292
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,440
I'm the favorite kid.
1293
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:35,440
So I, I don't know that she loves seeing it or maybe her first race that she went to, I flipped and she's been to a handful since, but I think she's only been back in the pits once because I told her it was her fault.
1294
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:39,440
So she doesn't go too much, but she's still supportive of it.
1295
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,440
She don't understand it quite as much.
1296
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,440
My girlfriend, she came from not racing at all.
1297
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,440
She had, again, she was another one.
1298
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,440
No idea what racing was.
1299
01:03:49,440 --> 01:04:02,440
And like you said earlier, you probably, you know, express your displeasures more at people on the same way.
1300
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:12,440
I've tried to get way better and I feel I have gotten way better, but I, there's times where you just stand in the wrong spot.
1301
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:19,440
You know, it's, it's not even, you know, I could be mad at your breathing the same air as me and you didn't do anything wrong.
1302
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,440
It just, I'm just mad at life at that point.
1303
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:30,440
So she's, she always jokes and it's probably not really a joke at all that, that she gets the blame of her.
1304
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:41,440
She gets the anger taken out on her and she's, she's beyond anything I could have ever imagined I would be able to figure out.
1305
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,440
But there's ups and downs with that stuff too.
1306
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:52,440
So the, the ups are that somehow I'm still managing to get support from her out of it.
1307
01:04:52,440 --> 01:05:03,440
And then all my friends, you know, I've already said my dad's there all the time, but my, my friends, all of them have jumped on board nearly.
1308
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,440
You know, my cousin used to travel for work.
1309
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,440
He jumped on, he's not traveling for work now.
1310
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:14,440
He immediately, he's in the shop, which is awesome because he's a good hand chase.
1311
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:22,440
He's more like a brother to me now, but he's, there's been weeks where I don't even get to work on a race car.
1312
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:35,440
He either has it done or I'm, you know, not a good coworker and he just does it and he's pissed at me, but he does it and we go race and, you know, I try to reward him those nights.
1313
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:44,440
Not that it ever happens, but man, you know, you still try, but I'm really fortunate for the support I have.
1314
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:53,440
So I don't want to forget anybody when we're talking about this stuff, but there's just a couple that have stuck out like, you know, my dad's girlfriend and my girlfriend.
1315
01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:01,440
And I know my mom is supporting me, but she's not going, which I don't think I would really want to see my kids trapped in a race car either.
1316
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:08,440
So, and I pray to God I don't. I really don't want them to get down this road somehow.
1317
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:13,440
My girlfriend's tall. I'm tall. I'm hoping they're too tall to stick in the cage.
1318
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:21,440
So yeah, the support thing is real though, because you don't have, you know, those long nights, you don't have anybody else.
1319
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:27,440
You know, most of the time you're driving the trailer home and it's out a dark windshield.
1320
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:34,440
And half the time we're getting flashed by people because our trucks bright or our trucks lights look bright.
1321
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,440
And so we're getting flashed and you're pissed off and you're screaming at them. They can't hear you.
1322
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:45,440
All the people around you just have to deal with you screaming absurd words at people that can't hear you.
1323
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:53,440
I'm the worst. I have terrible road rage. Like I am so bad. If I come on from Attica on Route 4 and I'm stuck by someone going 55 and I can't pass them.
1324
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,440
Oh hell is going to break loose.
1325
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:02,440
But the fact they put up with it because I've heard the things I've said.
1326
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,440
I'd probably like, dude, calm down. What is wrong with you?
1327
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,440
Did you just wish that upon that person? I'm like, yeah.
1328
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:13,440
But, you know, they deserve way more credit than anybody.
1329
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,440
They're like the offensive linemen in football. They do all the work.
1330
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:25,440
They deal with all the crap and all they get is a sliver of the pie.
1331
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:33,440
And it's a small sliver. So, yeah, I got a buddy that's having a baby. He works on the race car.
1332
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:38,440
He did. I'll joke. I hope he listens to this. He did work on the race car.
1333
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:43,440
No, he still does when he can, but he's that's a big part of life.
1334
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,440
And that's where I understand, you know, I'm fortunate that I can understand that stuff.
1335
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:55,440
So in some point, I'm going to have to, you know, move on from racing, hopefully later than sooner.
1336
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,440
But right now I couldn't afford to have a family, a house, a kids and a race car.
1337
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:09,440
So hopefully something changes and I can't afford it all, but I wouldn't be mad if my kids didn't grow up seeing me race.
1338
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:15,440
There's videos enough. That's enough proof that it happened and they don't need to see the grind.
1339
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,440
They don't need to see anything like that. They just go be kids.
1340
01:08:20,440 --> 01:08:29,440
You know, I do think kids grew up different with being in a year from Castilla, Fremont, wherever close enough.
1341
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:34,440
But these kids out here don't aren't Mike Keegan.
1342
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:52,440
Mike Keegan is one of my best friends and he we have such different life, you know, and I know why, but that's that's something I'd be okay with my family not growing up the same way he did necessarily or a lot of kids that do.
1343
01:08:52,440 --> 01:09:03,440
Yeah, it's I'm like the same way. Like I think if you know if I'm ever lucky enough to have kids, if they wanted to race, I think I'd let them and all that.
1344
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:12,440
Like I don't know like some people just like like my kids going to race and then they force their you know, they force the kids to race and like I my kids want to do it.
1345
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:15,440
Sure, whatever if you know the money's there, we can do it.
1346
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:24,440
For me, it's you know, I just want them to do what they want to do and I think you know and and I want to be at a point to my life where I can do the same thing.
1347
01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:37,440
Now it's like, you know, I'm 27. I'm coming up to 30 a lot quicker than I'd want to want to admit. But you know, I for years watched my dad race and it was like, you know, all we ever did.
1348
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:45,440
And now, you know, it's been, you know, 10 plus years since he's last drove and like the guy goes to races every weekend.
1349
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:46,440
That's what he wants to do.
1350
01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:51,440
But like, he's got his own hobbies now and it's like, he finds enjoyment out of it.
1351
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:57,440
You know, we went golfing, I think it was two weeks ago on a Friday, we got done at like 6pm.
1352
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,440
We had never done that if you still race and but we went golfing at 6pm.
1353
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:08,440
Just him and I and a couple of his, you know, guys, you know, from where he works and it's like it was enjoyable.
1354
01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:09,440
He laughed. He broke a club.
1355
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,440
We, you know, we laugh our ass off like all his things.
1356
01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:19,440
And it's like that stuff I would never get to experience if he's still raced and like now that he's out, there are different things that we find enjoyment in.
1357
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:25,440
You know, I told him, you know, we're going to have to go to a lot of walleye hockey games now because the person I was planning to go with isn't going to go.
1358
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:29,440
But, you know, we, we joke about that stuff.
1359
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,440
But like now I get to see him blossom.
1360
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:34,440
It's weird to say blossom and he's in his fifties, but like blossoming his own way.
1361
01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:36,440
Like he, you know, he loves to do what he does on the weekend.
1362
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:37,440
He's, you know, he's proud of it.
1363
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:47,440
And, you know, I get to kind of watch him afar and you know, eventually I'll probably, I think maybe this winter I'll start going with him to some of the things he does and try to maybe fall in his footsteps and be a little bit better.
1364
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:56,440
But yeah, I just kind of see that and it's like now that I see him doing that, I almost pull inspiration from it to like do what I want to do.
1365
01:10:56,440 --> 01:10:58,440
And if it's not racing, it's not racing.
1366
01:10:58,440 --> 01:10:59,440
So be it.
1367
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:03,440
And then, you know, one day, you know, I hope my kids are the same.
1368
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:06,440
But yeah, it's just all that stuff.
1369
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:14,440
And, you know, now I, like I, you know, I said in the Zane episode, like I got people that support me when I do.
1370
01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:19,440
And my grandma, you know, staying with them right now, just because it's kind of close to work.
1371
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:23,440
And I walked in the house before I came out here.
1372
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:25,440
I was there for like five minutes and I'm leaving.
1373
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:26,440
I'm going to go record another podcast.
1374
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:27,440
And they go, all right.
1375
01:11:27,440 --> 01:11:29,440
And she's like, when are you going to release all these?
1376
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:32,440
And I'm like, eventually, like I got her a cord.
1377
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:36,440
And, you know, I want to get a good stockpile first and all that.
1378
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:38,440
But like they're super supportive.
1379
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,440
Like, I think grandma's never listened to a podcast in her life.
1380
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:42,440
I don't think, but she'll listen to this one.
1381
01:11:42,440 --> 01:11:44,440
And that's cool.
1382
01:11:44,440 --> 01:11:49,440
And my grandpa's, you know, getting back into racing a little bit and going with us and all that.
1383
01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:53,440
So it's pretty cool to, you know, be around a family that supports everything you do.
1384
01:11:53,440 --> 01:12:00,440
And, you know, I posted a video on Instagram from the Zane episode and a kid that I went to school with,
1385
01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:02,440
like, used to be really good friends of them, was like, keep the content up.
1386
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:03,440
And I don't think I've talked to him.
1387
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:06,440
And I don't, it's probably been five years or whatever.
1388
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:08,440
But I was like, it was just cool to see that.
1389
01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:13,440
And the text, it's like, ah, nice, like, I didn't think you really cared.
1390
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:17,440
But it's cool that you see it and you want more, like, that's awesome, and I appreciate the support,
1391
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:20,440
but, you know, it's, it's just stuff like that.
1392
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:27,440
Like, you kind of get into a space where like I don't know if this is worth it anymore.
1393
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:30,440
Like, I don't feel like I'm doing anything.
1394
01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:35,440
And then you like put out a really good video or like a really good clip or something like that.
1395
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:36,520
And it's like, oh, this is awesome.
1396
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,360
And what you're doing is really cool.
1397
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,320
And it's like, you know, it's like a, if you're playing call duty,
1398
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,160
you got a stem and you just shoot it, you know, it's like getting that
1399
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,040
in a adrenaline boost.
1400
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,600
You're like, all right, perfect.
1401
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Like that's all, that's all I needed to get to the next weekend.
1402
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,200
Awesome.
1403
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,280
Let me, you know, run over there and, and all that.
1404
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,360
So it's, it's got its ups and downs.
1405
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:00,360
And I think if I didn't have the people to have this for me, I
1406
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,400
don't think I would probably be doing any of it.
1407
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:04,000
So.
1408
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Yeah, I think you just are, I get a lot of credit to my parents
1409
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,400
because they, I don't know if they raised me right.
1410
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,000
I think people would tell them they did.
1411
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:22,440
I feel they did, but they just raised me to be myself.
1412
01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:26,440
You know, I look back at, at, you know, childhood memories that you
1413
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:29,440
think of and you're like, wow, I can't believe my dad or mom.
1414
01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:30,160
Let me do that.
1415
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:30,800
I cannot.
1416
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,240
What the heck was wrong with them?
1417
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,240
And then I realized they just let me be a kid, you know, and, um, so
1418
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:44,160
I've surrounded myself with people that, you know, I really trust and, uh,
1419
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,960
love and enjoy being around.
1420
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:51,160
And, um, that's, that's where your support system comes from, you know,
1421
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:56,240
but the little boosts where it's, you know, like a buddy taxing you or
1422
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,360
just a kid from school or whatever.
1423
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,520
Um, it's cool to get those.
1424
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,600
Cause, uh, you don't realize people see what you're doing, you know?
1425
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:10,160
And, and so even if it's just liking a picture, sometimes that goes a little
1426
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:11,440
way, oh man, that's cool.
1427
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:16,600
You kind of got noticed at least or a, you know, whatever you post pictures
1428
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,360
for us as attention for you, it's content.
1429
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,200
Um, but no, I'm 100% with you.
1430
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,720
Your support system goes so far.
1431
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:31,120
Like my grandma, she would not give a single shit if she had ever
1432
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,720
went to another race again.
1433
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,400
But if I'm there, you almost have to fight.
1434
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,160
Like it's a hundred degrees, grandma.
1435
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,160
You don't need to be outside.
1436
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,160
Stay in a camper.
1437
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,920
Go sit in a camper with AC.
1438
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:42,920
It's on video.
1439
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:43,920
It's on TV.
1440
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:44,920
You can watch it.
1441
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,400
You got dirt vision and shit though, not fits, but she never lets me hear
1442
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,000
him cause she knows I'm, I'm stressed out enough.
1443
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,160
But, um, yeah, it's in my grandpa.
1444
01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:00,320
I don't think if, you know, I think he went to one race or two races,
1445
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,320
maybe between the time my dad raced and I raced, which is, you know,
1446
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,320
plenty of time.
1447
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,320
Um, and I'm not sure he's missed one.
1448
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:10,320
He may have missed one.
1449
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,320
I don't remember.
1450
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,320
And I'm sure he, if he did, he was pissed about it.
1451
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,320
Um, I think he had double knee surgery.
1452
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,320
So I believe he did miss one.
1453
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:24,320
Um, but those, you know, they bought a camper just cause we were going to
1454
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,320
Attica free mall time and they lived in Columbus.
1455
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,320
They just moved up here.
1456
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,320
And like I said, he's retired and he's a, he's a pilot.
1457
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,320
So he's got two airplanes at, uh, at the hangar five minutes from home.
1458
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:41,320
And, um, every time I call him and tell him, you know, hey, there's a
1459
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,320
Special project or hey, this needs done during the day.
1460
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,320
If there's something that needs done during the day, it's that project
1461
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,320
Falls on him and he loves it.
1462
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:56,320
And I, I know I annoy him sometimes, but he, uh, yeah, he's, he's falling
1463
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:02,320
in love with the sport. Um, and you know, we, my grandma joke the other day at
1464
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,320
mine, my nephew wanted to play games in the arcade or something.
1465
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,320
And he wouldn't give him the money to do it.
1466
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:14,320
And she said, if you'd asked him for, you know, whatever you need it
1467
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:19,320
For this race car, it had been bolted on the next, the next second if he had it,
1468
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,320
you know, and, and she said, but for him, he wouldn't give him five bucks to go
1469
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,320
Play video games.
1470
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:29,320
Yeah. It's, I mean, talk about like support.
1471
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:34,320
I look at, I don't know if you've ever read or seen the movie into the wild.
1472
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:42,320
Um, but the principle of the book in the movie is, you know, he's, he basically
1473
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:47,320
feels like happiness does not rely on human relationships.
1474
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:53,320
And he finds it in nature and, you know, and he goes out there to Alaska
1475
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:59,320
and, you know, he is basically completely on his own and, you know, he finds his
1476
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,320
bus in all this.
1477
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,320
And it's, you know, it's a really neat and fascinating story, but he, you know,
1478
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,320
he says, you know, happiness does not rely on social interaction, but he goes
1479
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,320
through all this and he gets kind of to the end of his life and he's getting
1480
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:17,320
sick and he's getting weak and, you know, on his, his death bed, he basically
1481
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,320
comes to the realization that he was wrong and he's like, you know, it does.
1482
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:28,320
And, and I think really the moral of the story is like, it doesn't rely on human
1483
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,320
interaction.
1484
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:36,320
I more so because you can have happiness without it, but happiness is better
1485
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,320
when it's shared.
1486
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,320
And I, for a very long time, didn't think that.
1487
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,320
And I was like, ah, you know, if I'm happy, that's all that matters.
1488
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:50,320
But it's like, I've been in situations and I've been, you know,
1489
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,320
super happy and I'm like, oh, yes, yes, yes.
1490
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,320
I did it.
1491
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:56,320
I, you know, I'm whatever.
1492
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,320
And then it's like three hours go by.
1493
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,320
It's 11 p.m.
1494
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:07,320
And I'm laying in bed and I'm like, I wish I could tell somebody how awesome
1495
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:12,320
that was, you know, how happy I am.
1496
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,320
And then like, once you realize like they're, you know, you're in a situation,
1497
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:19,320
you know, where you don't have anybody to tell, it's like the happiness just vanishes.
1498
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,320
And it's like, it meant nothing.
1499
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:27,320
And like it's so, I think, I mean, it's just, it's one of those things I don't
1500
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:32,320
think we cherish enough when we have it is the ability and people around us that
1501
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,320
we can share happiness with and be like, you're awesome.
1502
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,320
And then that in turn support us and that makes us even happier and it just builds
1503
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,320
off of each other.
1504
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,320
Like if you don't have that, like you, I don't want to say you have nothing,
1505
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,320
but like, eventually, like you kind of come back down to earth and realize,
1506
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,320
like you need those people around you.
1507
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:57,320
And without them, like you aren't ever going to get to where you are,
1508
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,320
I think truly happy or like truly in a place that you want to be.
1509
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,320
Yeah, I am.
1510
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:11,320
So I always felt that when you're going good, man, everybody's having fun.
1511
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:16,320
That's that's that on top of the world feeling, whether, you know, it's a hard
1512
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:22,320
charger from, you know, 24th to 9th or, you know, top five, whatever.
1513
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:28,320
Even like heat race wins, which as a driver, that's what you're supposed to do.
1514
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,320
If you start on a pole, you're supposed to go in it.
1515
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,320
Man, it really boosts your team though.
1516
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:39,320
Like they, they really, I mean, it's cool that they want you to win, obviously.
1517
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:48,320
So they that those kind of things are so, you know, small and they don't mean anything.
1518
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,320
But man, when everybody around you is happy, you feel like you done something.
1519
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:58,320
And then when you you suck and they feel it's not a big deal, you know,
1520
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,320
and man, it is a big deal.
1521
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,320
I just let all you guys down.
1522
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,320
That's I've broke this down with people.
1523
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:07,320
That's six or seven pit passes.
1524
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:12,320
Six or seven hours of their day, probably between the drive there, time at the racetrack, drive back,
1525
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:17,320
sometimes more, sometimes you got seven hours just driving.
1526
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:22,320
All the food that they eat there, what they could have been doing, whether it's grocery shopping,
1527
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:28,320
you know, spending time with their dog or, you know, whatever.
1528
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,320
And that all falls on your shoulders because you sucked.
1529
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,320
You know, that's, that's a hard part of having a big support system.
1530
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,320
You know, you look at some guys show up to the race car track or the racetrack with their race car,
1531
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,320
the trailer and one guy that maybe they pay to be there.
1532
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:47,320
Well, and they can be so full of themselves that it don't matter if they go good or not.
1533
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:52,320
One, it's not their fault that they didn't go good or and two, they didn't, you know, let nobody down.
1534
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:59,320
I feel I have the weight of my whole crew, team, friends support system on my back.
1535
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:05,320
You know, like, you know, one of the most, you said, you know, sometimes you only have you.
1536
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:13,320
One of the most selfish quotes I've ever heard was Antonio Brown said, not that, you know, that's a guy you want to go after,
1537
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:22,320
but he've made a solid point just as delivery was gone that, you know, everybody else around you is so lucky because they get the,
1538
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:28,320
around him, he said, everybody around me is so lucky because they get to see me play.
1539
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,320
He said, that's where I'm jealous of you.
1540
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:37,320
And the only way I'm jealous of you is that you guys get to see me play every day or live and you'll never get to see that.
1541
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,320
He'll never get to see that.
1542
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:44,320
Well, I thought about that for a long time and I think is, is delivery was wrong.
1543
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,320
But the point of like, I'll never get to watch myself race or watch this.
1544
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,320
Hopefully never have to watch this race car race without me in it.
1545
01:21:53,320 --> 01:22:03,320
But without already knowing what happens next or thinking about what happened and then then you get to see it on the race, you know, on film or whatever.
1546
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:15,320
That way is not ways on me, but that's something that is weird to think about that you, you know, like you can watch anybody Sheldon's a fun guy to watch and you have no idea what he's thinking sometimes.
1547
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,320
But man, it's exciting.
1548
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,320
Even if it's not going fast, it can be exciting.
1549
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,320
There's times where I feel that that's all we're doing is being exciting.
1550
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:28,320
I had Jack Fortney tell me one night, Jack's hard charger for the AFCS.
1551
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:36,320
I think I blew it off the top of Fremont and going into one three times in the heat race.
1552
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,320
And for some reason you just keep trying harder and then you do it again.
1553
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:45,320
But he's I went up to him after and I said, well, that was pretty embarrassing.
1554
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,320
He said, I'll tell you one thing.
1555
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:52,320
You sure as hell are exciting. And I said, Jack, that ain't always the goal.
1556
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,320
He goes, I don't care if it's the goal.
1557
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:58,320
He said, if you're fun to watch, I'm going to watch you, you know, the rest will come.
1558
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:08,320
I remember that night and I had two or three people tell me that and it's just, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but the the pedal is on the floor.
1559
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:13,320
We're in the grip on the only one four wheels above the the shit.
1560
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:18,320
I have to have grip. I know I have it. Why am I not driving by him on exit?
1561
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,320
You know, only on entrance and then they pull back even and we're drag racing again.
1562
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:26,320
But now I do feel that being exciting is part of it.
1563
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:31,320
You know, I I think we're entertainers, but we're not entertainers at all.
1564
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:41,320
Yeah, I talked about, you know, the Antonio Brown coming, you know, people don't know how lucky they are to like.
1565
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:54,320
I mean, think about it since you said it and it's like, I kind of look at it, you know, when I played baseball and, you know, anybody plays high school sports, like you're playing the sport, like you get enjoyment out of it.
1566
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,320
It's like kind of like your way of having fun.
1567
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:10,320
But at the same time, you know, I kind of look and it's like I said, like earlier, like my dad made pretty much every single game and I'm like, you know, I can only imagine what it's like for him to, you know, be there and watch.
1568
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,320
Your son play baseball or whatever.
1569
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,320
And I like it kind of goes back to the Antonio Brown like you racing.
1570
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:30,320
It's like, you know, you don't want to seem selfish or like conceited about yourself, but it's like, you know, how lucky really are we that we have people that get to watch us do this and get enjoyment out of it.
1571
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,320
Like it's not like the they're watching it.
1572
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:39,320
They're like, oh, we're only watching it because we have to like if they're watching it in their, you know, maybe on racing, they're not enjoying it.
1573
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:50,320
If you're not doing good or you're, you know, flipping down the back stretch or something, but like, you know, they're there and they get to watch you do something that you're passionate about, which in turn makes them happy or excited.
1574
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:59,320
And it's like, you know, you take off the zoom lens and you look at bigger picture and it's just all one big like kind of conglomerate thing.
1575
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:05,320
And you're just like, you know, at that, the Antonio Brown quote, even, you know, how he said is, you know, whatever, but like, it makes sense.
1576
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:14,320
Like how lucky is everyone that they get to watch me do this and then how lucky am I that I get to have people that get to watch me do it and all of that.
1577
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:24,320
So I mean, it's a really, it's a really neat perspective to look at it in and kind of think like, oh yeah, that makes makes a lot more sense than you think I would do.
1578
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:25,320
So much of a thinker.
1579
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:39,320
I've joked like I've told Chase, I mean, you're lucky you get to watch me sometimes not because it's going well, but I just, you know, it'd be cool to sit back and watch yourself as a race fan and not know the next move.
1580
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:45,320
And like, you know, whether it's a wow factor in a good way or a bad way of being like, wow, that was stupid.
1581
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:50,320
I can't believe you just did that or hey, dumbass quit missing the bottom or whatever.
1582
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:56,320
Or wow, that was impressive. Like, and you get to have people that that do enjoy supporting you.
1583
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:06,320
So and I've asked the sometimes you ask the wrong people with the questions and they give you really blunt answers.
1584
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:13,320
Like, I felt something was pretty, pretty entertaining one time and I got told it was pretty stupid.
1585
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,320
There was no point in risking a race car.
1586
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,320
And dads will do that, you know, they'll tell you that.
1587
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:30,320
But the hard part they probably balance on is, you know, my dad always says, this is where the guys that are are putting down laps are running.
1588
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,320
And then this is where I think you should be.
1589
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:38,320
And so the night at Sharon we qualified really well.
1590
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,320
I think it was a Speed Week show we qualified well.
1591
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,320
Everybody's up there banging the fence down and try and knock the fence down.
1592
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:54,320
The time to slowly drop in like low mid 16s, low 16s area and then you go watch some of the guys that that race there a lot.
1593
01:26:54,320 --> 01:27:04,320
And you're like, oh, that's, you know, that's on the they're on the fence, but they're not on the fence like a Kale Thomas or a Dale or Dave Blaney where they are so comfortable being on the fence or cap.
1594
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:13,320
Whoever you guys that race for a good majority of their their money that they go up there. They knock, try to knock fence down.
1595
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,320
They look like, you know, hey, good effort.
1596
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:20,320
So I told my dad the one night I said, hey, I'm going to pretend I care this first lap.
1597
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,320
And then the second lap I'm going to be a pussy.
1598
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:27,320
And he said, fine by me, just be careful on the pretend lap or something.
1599
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,320
And I think he thought he was I was joking.
1600
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:36,320
I went out and I rolled the top like a yeah, just like a guy that has to go to work tomorrow.
1601
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:41,320
And they I rolled it and it was horrible.
1602
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:50,320
And I had the wing all the way back and I rolled right through the bottom to the center and I get out of car and Kale Thomas was like first one to me.
1603
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,320
He's like, what'd you do?
1604
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,320
And I'm like, I just rolled the center.
1605
01:27:53,320 --> 01:28:00,320
He's like, really? I said, yeah, why? He goes, do you think you're forth quick in our in our group or in whatever?
1606
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,320
I said, that's a little bit surprising because I know who's behind me.
1607
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,320
And he just rolled right through the center.
1608
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,320
I was like, yeah.
1609
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:14,320
And so we talked about for five minutes and then some bitch gets his wing back in the heat race and he drives right by me right through the center.
1610
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,320
So it's double edged swords.
1611
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:23,320
But I know I know my dad was pretty excited about the second lap because I was not near the fence.
1612
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,320
But that's kind of you have to be there is on it.
1613
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,320
Stuff like that's kind of cool to think about.
1614
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:33,320
And then, you know, when you look back on it, you're like, ah, I did happen.
1615
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,320
I remember that now and stuff like that.
1616
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:43,320
And I'm sure like I if I were to go back into my my my folders of videos or whatever, I probably have a video of you just sending it in there.
1617
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:48,320
And I think I know for a fact I have one of you just blowing over the top and I was like, can I just remember every lap?
1618
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,320
I was like, he's going to do something.
1619
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:54,320
Either this is going to be really cool or like this is going to go really bad either way.
1620
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,320
Like I at least want to get it on camera.
1621
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,320
I always feel when you you have the most confidence is when you hit the hardest.
1622
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:09,320
And it's what I figured out every flip I've had has come after a good run or whatever.
1623
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:15,320
You know, you're just you're as comfortable in a race car as you've been and you're you're confident in it and you're confident.
1624
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:18,320
You're really confident yourself. You know, you can do no wrong.
1625
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,320
And confidence is a scary thing.
1626
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,320
Oh man, it is a scary thing.
1627
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,320
It puts you in places.
1628
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:32,320
Well, you get confident and you think you're invincible and then you learn that you are indeed not.
1629
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,320
And that is you're stuck in the turn one and two fence.
1630
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:45,320
I mean, just even outside like in life in general, you get confident and you start to feel like you cannot be beat.
1631
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:49,320
You feel invincible. You're like nothing can go wrong.
1632
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,320
You win one or two arguments with the old lady and you are on top of the world.
1633
01:29:53,320 --> 01:30:06,320
I mean, you just I remember like I remember being in Texas and a series of events happened and I got so confident.
1634
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:15,320
I it was bad and I was just like to the bar we go, nothing wrong is going to happen.
1635
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:22,320
And then the next morning I woke up, looked at some text messages, tried to talk to somebody and I was like,
1636
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:34,320
Yikes, like this is all that confidence I had is gone because like I fucked up.
1637
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:35,320
Yeah.
1638
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:39,320
What's that Mike Tyson saying you got a plan to get punched in the face.
1639
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:40,320
Yeah.
1640
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,320
Confidence is that plan.
1641
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,320
Reality is that punch in the face.
1642
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:51,320
The plan realities the punch in the face or that like you like gambling like you play blackjack.
1643
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:54,320
You win four hands and all of a sudden you're like, I'm hot.
1644
01:30:54,320 --> 01:31:01,320
Let me let me double up my bet and then it's, you know, right from the rip that dealers got blackjack and you lose all the money you just won.
1645
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,320
And you're like, that was pretty stupid.
1646
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:09,320
And then you kind of like going to losing skit after that and you can't win anything and you're like, I just need something.
1647
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,320
And that's why I don't gamble.
1648
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:17,320
We went for my buddy's bachelor party a couple of weeks ago during the Nationals and we rolled in.
1649
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:21,320
I saw somebody in there that I was shocked to see in there.
1650
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:23,320
She's, I hope she's listening to this.
1651
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:30,320
I'm going to send her this if she's not and we'll say names afterwards, but she all night.
1652
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,320
Oh, if my husband finds out he's going to be pissed.
1653
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:34,320
He's going to be pissed.
1654
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,320
Well, she left with like 500 to 600 bucks.
1655
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,320
She left up and I'm like, he can't be mad about that.
1656
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:45,320
She's like, nope, just sold some stuff, you know, and she goes, you going to gamble?
1657
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:46,320
I said, nope.
1658
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:53,320
I feel I gamble enough with the race car that, that I don't need to gamble in, in something I can't even control, you know.
1659
01:31:53,320 --> 01:32:03,320
So, you know, I might walk up to a machine, hit a button and walk away, you know, with five bucks less than I walked up with, but I'm never mad about that.
1660
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:10,320
I played Blackjack just because I feel like if there's any game that can see, you know, I can somewhat control my look at it's Blackjack.
1661
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:17,320
But like I've played in Aruba, I've played in Canada, I've played in California, Ohio.
1662
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:22,320
I've played in a lot of different places and one thing never changes and it's like racing.
1663
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:37,320
I can do everything right and buy the book, but by God, the person next to you, if they don't do the right thing and like hit when they're supposed to hit and the dealer gets a 21 and I have a 20.
1664
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:45,320
I'm swinging like you just, if you would have hit the dealer would have bused or whatever and I would have won money.
1665
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:53,320
But now that because you didn't do your job, I lost and it's like, well, I went in to turn one on the top and you were trying to get the bottom and missed and came up and now we're right.
1666
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,320
I'm like, it's like the same thing.
1667
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,320
They're the exact same thing.
1668
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,320
Like you did not do your job.
1669
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:02,320
Now you're going to pay the price.
1670
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,320
You're so close to now you're going to pay the price.
1671
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:05,320
Yeah.
1672
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,320
Yeah, it's yeah.
1673
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,320
Don't recommend gambling and it's a good way to lose money.
1674
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,320
I'll do sports betting here and there.
1675
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:16,320
Like I wish I wish you could bet on racing in a while.
1676
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:25,320
Yeah, I would put like 20 bucks and Caleb Henry weekly at this point just because he always seems to start like six and his odds probably like, man, maybe plus a hundred by day.
1677
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:26,320
100 bucks.
1678
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,320
I mean, it's probably going to win.
1679
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:31,320
Didn't I remember it was Cam Actos or Jason Perceley or whatever.
1680
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,320
Indiana win.
1681
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,320
It was Emerson.
1682
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:34,320
Emerson was the night.
1683
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,320
The night before Speed Week at Attica.
1684
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:41,320
Yeah, they had those like the first night they could have done the gambling and had a plus 600.
1685
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,320
Plus like I thought it was like 2000 or something.
1686
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:56,320
It was a stream odds, but someone put like 20 bucks on him and won like two grand and I saw I saw him at Attica and I walked up to him and I was like, I heard you made a couple people rich last night.
1687
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,320
And he was like, yeah, I guess so.
1688
01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:01,320
If I would have known I would have put money on myself.
1689
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:02,320
Kid.
1690
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:08,320
I went to a Speed Week show and I looked at I could have done it there, but like the odds were they were back to normal.
1691
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:14,320
Unfortunately, I think I put money on Briggs Danner that night.
1692
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,320
I think he finished like fifth or whatever.
1693
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,320
But yeah, you can do it.
1694
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,320
If they didn't Ohio and might be in trouble.
1695
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:21,320
All right.
1696
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,320
Well, we're approaching here about two hours.
1697
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,320
We got to do I'm going to do rapid question with you.
1698
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:26,320
We're going to switch things around.
1699
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,320
Oh, God.
1700
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:28,320
What do we got?
1701
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:29,320
All right.
1702
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,320
You got to answer these quick.
1703
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:33,320
These aren't allowed to be thought out.
1704
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:37,320
Favorite shot favorite spot to shoot at Fremont turn one favorite racetrack.
1705
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:42,320
Kokomo favorite car to shoot anything that's bright colored.
1706
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,320
Anything is bright colored dark cars.
1707
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:48,320
They mess with like the lighting on the camera and it turns everything else darker.
1708
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:55,320
If it's a light colored car, it's easier to shoot a dream dream event to shoot foreground go to food at Eldora.
1709
01:34:55,320 --> 01:35:00,320
I haven't had concession of Doron a long time, but pizza burger.
1710
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,320
That's the only right answer.
1711
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:03,320
Favorite sport.
1712
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,320
How dare you?
1713
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:14,320
I'm going to say it's a tie between college football and Toledo Wally hockey.
1714
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:19,320
Racings are close second, but like I'd probably say college football college football.
1715
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,320
It's all due on a weekend.
1716
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:29,320
Once one's racing's over, I'm going to sit there from noon to three in the morning for like the Hawaii games and just watch football.
1717
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:33,320
The old Pac-12 matchups at 11 o'clock.
1718
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,320
Rest in peace, Pac-12.
1719
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,320
Well, we'll wrap this up here.
1720
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,320
It's like 11 p.m. here and all that.
1721
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:40,320
So we'll wrap up Chris.
1722
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,320
I appreciate being on episode three.
1723
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,320
We'll get this posted here.
1724
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,320
I think, you know, we go forward.
1725
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,320
We'll get more episodes and we'll bring you back and all that.
1726
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,320
And ideally we kind of have a more basis.
1727
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:56,320
I think of all the episodes up to this point, I think this one dove into a lot of the personal stuff the most,
1728
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,320
which I think is really where we wanted to go with this.
1729
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:03,320
I appreciate, you know, all that and, you know, honesty and kind of digging into some of that.
1730
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:09,320
And we'll, I guess we'll finish out the rest of this year, a couple more races left.
1731
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:15,320
And then we'll go into the winter and come back out the other side in March and go through it all again.
1732
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:16,320
Yes, sir.
1733
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:21,320
I appreciate you having me on and just everybody that the personal side of things,
1734
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:28,320
and guys just don't be afraid to reach out and I'm heads up all the time. You can call me.
1735
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,320
My phone's always on the loudest ringer.
1736
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,320
You can ask anybody I know.
1737
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:34,320
You can call me and I'll answer them.
1738
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,320
It's whatever life is beyond everything here.
1739
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,320
So I appreciate you having me on.
1740
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:49,320
I appreciate you pushing this whole movement of guys, you know, being beyond a race car driver and even some of us that just pretend to be race car drivers.
1741
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:50,320
But it's cool.
1742
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,320
I really appreciate you having me here.
1743
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,320
Yeah, I just pretend to be media sometimes.
1744
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,320
I kind of feel you're good at it.
1745
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:21,320
Guys, we'll kick this off and then we'll be back next week with someone new.