The Warner Brothers

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Yes, people, and welcome back to the Beat First Podcast.
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Today's guests are the Warner Brothers.
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We've got Albi.
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We've got Ollie.
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Alright.
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And we've got Archie.
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Alright.
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How are you doing, boys?
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All good?
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All good.
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Good.
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Boys, I know you're busy training.
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You know you're up early, you're in the gym, so I appreciate you taking your time out and being the first group of boxing brothers on the podcast.
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That's good, yeah.
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So what I normally do with my guests, they normally take them back to the start, a little bit about where they grew up, how they got into the sport they love.
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I'll be with you being the oldest.
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If you can do that on it, please.
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We grew up in Rainham.
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Started, I got into karate first of all.
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My mum got me into karate.
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I didn't at the start I didn't really like like it too much.
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I was like, oh, I want to give it up, I don't want to do it being with you.
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I was like, no, look, stick to it.
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You start enjoying it, you need to, like, you need to do something.
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So I weren't too keen on it first, too keen on it first of all, and then I had my first competition, and I I thought, I did it, I'll come up, I think I'll come second.
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And I thought like after that I loved it.
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I thought, this is a bit of me and that.
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So I started doing karate, then I started, then I went to the kickboxing, so I was doing the both at the same time.
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Uh fought national karate, fought for the England squad, started kicking like carried on the kickboxing, started fighting the kickboxing, and then when was it?
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That's when I turned over to boxing when I was about 14, 15.
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I done the unlicensed boxing because I needed to work on my boxing with my kickboxing.
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I weren't too good with my hands, I was always using my legs.
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And then I started enjoying the like the unlicensed boxing, fighting on like at the circus tavern, and then I wanted to take that a little bit further, so I was like decided to go amateur, and that's where I went to the wrepting at about 19.
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See, I I I thought it was doable in arts with you.
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I always thought you'd you'd you'd gone through the amateurs and then.
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No, I went you went up.
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So the karate, they keep boxing, like the unlicensed boxing, my amateurs was the last thing I did.
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I'd done it like backwards, really.
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But I finished it, I finished at the rectum.
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I spent about six years at the wrecking.
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Yeah.
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Good gym.
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But you obviously must have been a good standard because no one just walks into the good group.
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At the time I was there, it was a good group of people as well.
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Good trainers, all the boys were good, like seniors and that.
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You had all like Jimmy Saints coming through, the ranks, Dennis McCann, all them sort of like so.
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It was a good gym at the it still is a good gym, but when I was there, it was like thriving.
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And how old are you?
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I'm 29 now.
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So how how old was you when you started?
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I started competing in like all martial arts that was about five.
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And then I think I went to the Recon at about 19.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, 18, 19, I went there.
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But all the other kickboxing and K-1 when I was all the way through, so I was about nine, then I just decided to do boxing.
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I was like, I've got to stick to one thing because it was too much trying to do kickboxing, K-1, like boxing, training too much, twice a day every day.
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So I was just stuck to one and that's where I went to the boxing.
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Yeah.
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And you just found a bit more natural in the in the boxing and then.
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Yeah, I preferred it to be honest with you.
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Yeah, I definitely preferred it.
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And and your background, you did your dad or or your granddad or your uncles or my uncles, my uncles boxed for reps and actually.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they boxed with them.
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Both uh both of my mum's brothers.
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They box for reps and at a good standard as well.
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One like school boys, nationals, and that.
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They're actually up on the wall, my mum's brothers, like my uncles.
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Yeah.
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Like their father was on the wall.
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So obviously that's why we decided to go there as well.
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Because we've known it's always been a good gym, good competitive gym as well.
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A fighting gym, too.
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So yeah, definitely.
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Nah, brilliant.
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So, boys, um, we just spoke about it just then, and I got it horribly wrong.
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So, the age the age difference.
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So, obviously, Artie you you came after Albi.
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Yeah, and then obviously Ollie.
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So, what's the age difference between you and Albi?
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Yeah, 10 years.
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Ten years.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, do you do you remember much growing up?
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I always I always remember just being in the gym my whole life.
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Yeah.
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Always watching him train sparring.
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My mum would actually be at competitions and that with him in like alarm with a bottle.
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With a bike with a pair of them, just watching.
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I can't only watch me fight.
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He'd be everywhere.
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That's all they grew up around was fighting.
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I can only remember like a few karate competitions.
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I'd be running around.
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There's like three fights going on at once, and I'm just running around everywhere on the mats and all that.
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Crowds of people, and yeah.
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Can you remember when you first got into did you do follow Albies Route?
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Did you did you do any karate things or do you go to speak?
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I'd done like a little bit of the kickboxing training, like the tiniest bit ever.
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But we never done like the karate or any of we we watched him train kickboxing, we never watched him training in karate.
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We watched him competitions at karate.
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I remember a couple, like the karate camps and that as well.
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But uh I only really remember like the kickboxing, and then we followed his footsteps to actually start boxing.
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Yeah, so what age did you start?
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I started at nine.
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At nine?
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Repton.
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Oh, you started staying at Repton?
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Repton, yeah.
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Was that in the inertia class then?
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That was wicked that was.
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Yeah, who was running it back?
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Freddie, Freddie Backland, Chris, yeah, and Chris, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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I was a hard, I was arguing about it.
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Saturday as well.
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It was good.
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Yeah, I remember I took my boy up there one year, they always said, obviously, um it was being boxy, you know, we're always welcome there.
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And I just went up one Saturday and yeah, it was brutal.
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They kid the kids' class.
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Yeah, it's tough in there.
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It is tough.
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But then that's what that's what makes it one of the best.
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That's like when I first went into the reps, and I'd never been into an amateur gym before.
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And I went, I walked in there, I couldn't believe it.
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Like the madness going on in there, all the people just training and shouting, and you had uh Kelvin, he was a trainer up at the gym, and it was it was all madness because I couldn't I could I've never been to a gym like that, so I was a bit like took away.
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Yeah.
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And then once you find your feet in there and that, you start to know people and that it's good.
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And then Ollie, you came along.
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Yeah.
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So what's to the age difference or between these two years?
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So two years she wasn't too far behind.
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And what's your early memories of being around the gym and so I didn't really remember a lot of the karate.
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I only remembered the unlicensed unlicensed part, like going to watch him fight.
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I still remember when we used to go up the gym, I used to just muck about, like hit the bag, he would be doing a little bit of the kickboxing and obviously he'd be doing it full-on, properly training.
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But I also started at uh reptin with Archie.
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I started about seven, I think it was, seven or eight.
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And then I've just continued from there on.
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So you just love different from early.
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Yeah.
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Did you get that from your mum and your dad bringing you along, or did you get it from watching your brother and like looked up to him and I've got a bit of both.
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Yeah.
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Well, my mum loves boxing and and and all that sort of sport and combat sport.
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Like she loves, she liked to keep boxing, the karate, the boxing.
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So she's always been like with her brothers as well.
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She's always been around really been around boxing for.
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Also, I think that's also for uh I've grown up, I've always been around.
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Always been around, that's all we know, sort of thing.
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Oh, uncles, that used to like that's probably what gotten me into it a little bit as well.
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Like after every fight, I used to go to my uncle who used to box for Recton won all nationals and that.
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He used to watch sit there, make him watch me fight.
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So I think that's one of the things that also pushed me to fight as well.
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I'll be but when when you started the reptin, am I right in saying it?
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Because you'd had combat experience with the martial art and obviously the unlicensed, um obviously you wouldn't have had any skills both.
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No, they took me straight into under-20s.
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Yeah.
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Under-20s, because you had under 10, under 10 bats and under-20s.
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So like they looked at obviously what what I'd done, and like Lionel at the time who was one of the head trainers there, he said, like, this is what you have to declare.
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So they put it down to what I've had, and that that I could go in as under-20s under the uh development.
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Well, I've not had an amateur fight before, but obviously I've had experience in fighting.
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So yeah, it was it was that's what they decided to do.
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And how how many years were you that refting for?
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I think it was about six years.
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I think I was there for a few years.
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Did you stay there for the whole amateur?
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Yeah, yeah, for the whole time I was there, yeah.
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Did you did you win anything there?
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I got to the finals of the developments twice actually, but no, I didn't I didn't win.
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I went to Fort in Ireland twice, went out to Sweden.
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I had about I think I had about 25, 20, nearly five, 30 fights in the end.
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Yeah.
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And were you but you boxing up reputing the same time as were you just in the NSC?
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So we we were still going out though when in they was like fighting the what's it Belfast October?
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Yeah, Belfast, we went out to Ireland twice.
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That was always good.
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That was good.
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That was a great show out there, and when they'd do it here as well.
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Yeah, we used to watch it.
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They used to fight us over here.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And all the dinner shows, they were good as well.
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Did you boys get on them?
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Have you uh here's a question have you ever boxed together on the same show?
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We have you boys have me and Arsy, yeah, but not him.
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When they started competing, I'd stop by then.
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Ah okay.
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Yeah, I'll do stop.
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Because what you get your card at 10, isn't it?
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Yeah, 10, yeah.
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Pretty sure.
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So you'd stop by the time they were.
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By the time they started, yeah, probably fighting, I'd stop.
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You'd you'd stopped.
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So the night you've you two two fought, where was that?
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On this on the same bill.
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We've done it a few times on the home shows.
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Like he started competing a lot earlier than I did.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I started.
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I didn't have uh any skills.
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I just went straight in.
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So I don't know how long before I started competing then him, but I was before quite a bit.
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I couldn't be having I had to have skills because I was coming down from 90 kilo, wasn't I?
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Yeah.
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So I was having skills at like my first skills bat was at 80 or 79, and I was just coming down from that having skills, and then once I made weight, I had my first, had my first fight in King of the Ring box cup.
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You won't won the Sweden.
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Yeah, that was my first actual.
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It's not a bad piece to be a stars, I was like, is it?
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It was good.
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It was you all out there watching them.
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Yeah, yeah, it was like the dog didn't come back one.
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No, you didn't come.
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But me and Olive, we fought out there, yeah.
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Yeah, you both fought.
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Oh, you both fought out there, yeah.
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You won it, yeah.
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Yeah, perfect, lad.
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Perfect.
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And how old was you?
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Uh oh I was 15, I think.
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15.
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Yeah, I think I was 13.
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13, yeah.
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So I I know obviously because we followed your career from from from the start, you certainly do do you you younger boys.
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Um how long was you at Repton before you moved to was it it was was it Tagnum after Repton?
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Four years was it?
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Four years.
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Yeah, it was.
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Was it that long?
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No, no, but I was training four years, but obviously you were there for six.
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So we were there for a yeah, about that.
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Yeah, then after when I left Repton completely, that's when that obviously they decided to leave as well.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah, because of the jo it's a little bit of the journey to get up there because we live in Essex.
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I used to go straight from work, so it was a lot easier.
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So then we decided to find somewhere a bit local, so we went to Dagnham.
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To Dagnam, yeah.
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No, the journey wasn't bad if there was no traffic, but then sometimes there'd be traffic, we wouldn't even make it there, we'd make it halfway and then got to turn around and sit in traffic coming home.
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Yeah, but your dad's a cabby, isn't he?
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You should go on the little shortcuts.
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She was out and your mum, yeah.
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Yeah, we had a good time at that, really.
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That was a good time.
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A lot of bags.
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We had to all the box cups, Dagnham, went away.
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All times, all clubs we went to.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Wrexen, Dagna.
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That's the thing with all the people, all the people you meet at all.
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All the people you make along the way.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I met some good people all all along the way through the boxing.
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Did you find it easy transitioning into Dagnum?
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Because obviously you're both being brothers and things.
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Yeah, any yeah, any club we transition to, we find it easier because we've got each other, don't we?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We can always speak to each other, we ain't always by ourselves.
00:12:20.080 --> 00:12:33.039
So Dagnum, Repton Dagnum, uh bit of Raylum legends, bit of a tough question to ask, but where did you feel most at home and enjoyed your boxing the most?
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From Jermaine Where?
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Yeah, which which which club?
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Which club did you feel most at home and enjoyed your boxing the most?
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I know legends.
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Yeah, yeah, where you are now.
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So we got history, we got a lot of history legends.
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We know with Martin and Bobby and that, we've known them for years.
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I think all we've got even when we walked into Legends already we felt really welcomed in there.
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Yeah, we knew people.
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Obviously, we felt welcomed everywhere we went.
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Brexit, everywhere, everything everywhere we went.
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But with legends, it's just a little bit different.
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It's like family, as well.
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It's really good, it is.
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It's got a bit more history with it, so we know the people and where special.
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I used to train with Martin when I was like younger as well.
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I used to sometimes go down to the match from the gym and he'd be there training.
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That's how I sort of met him.
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Yeah.
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Train alongside him and that.
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So I've known him for always used to speak.
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If I just see him out and that would always speak to him, so I've always kept in contact with him as well.
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And it wasn't until obviously they opened the gym.
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Then we was like, I mean, I don't know what to do, and then we decided like we're gonna come trainers in the city course, like the doors open, you're welcome, and that is that a bit more local for you boys to get there, yeah.
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Yeah, it's not it like it takes like 30-20 minutes, not even that sometimes.
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And the setup you've got at home, you've got a little setup at home, haven't you?
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Yeah, you've got all the waits and actually doing the waiting.
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Yeah, but your mum and that love that actually.
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Yeah, yeah, so ever get your dad out there spanning.
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No, he's just doubting his in his taxi getting earning the money for you to go out there.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Fair play.
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And I'll be back on to yourself.
00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:11.519
You um outside the boxing, you you had a a little acting sort of thing, didn't you?
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Didn't you do a bit of acting?
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I've got acting through the boxing.
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I used to people used to come to the reps and for filming.
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And they was like, Oh, we want to use some of your boxes in something, or can we pick one of your boxers?
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And they was like, Yeah, like have a look.
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So they started taking our photos, and they ended up they took my photo and they got back in contact with the club and they said, Can we use obviously me, this boxer in our programme?
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It was called like Marcella, it was on ITV.
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Yeah, they was like, We'll pay you and that.
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And I couldn't believe it.
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I was like, What?
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Yeah, look, yeah, ended up doing a f like a few photo shoot things, filming.
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I was like on the TV.
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People, I was on the I was on the actual advert, and people was bringing me up going, Is this what I've just seen?
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Is it you?
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I've just seen you on the TV.
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I was like, Yeah, it's me.
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I've done a bit of filming down the too, but just hitting the pads and that.
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Yeah, it was crazy actually, as well as you like they pay quite well.
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Just mad things like that.
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It was a bit of a it was a bit of a weird app sold you in, though one.
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Yeah, I'm like, I mean, it's it's odd.
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Sort of an odd one.
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Yeah, it was odd, wasn't it?
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I just thought it was paying well, so I took the money.
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People was actually like I used to on my work that I used to work for, like doing the electricals, there was loads of blokes on there, and there was a big group chat, and one of them went, they sent this photo of me and they said, I'm sure we've seen this kid at our work.
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And I was like, Yeah, I said, Yeah, it was me.
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I couldn't believe it.
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I was watching you on TV last night.
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Yeah, did you boys get anything in school like from the teachers or anything like that?
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I've seen your brother on telly or no no, we didn't know they didn't like only a couple teachers at school remembered Alby, but none of that.
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Yeah, they knew him from where he was there.
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Like they would they'll go up to us, or like they would see when they would do the register, like Warner, they'll be like, Are you Albi Warner's little brother?
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or Artie's?
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I'll be like, Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like we've all gone through the same school, and some teachers would recognise straight away, like even looking at us.
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Did the thing did the fame get to Albie a little bit?
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Was you walking around the outside?
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I know you're not that type of kid, but I reckon did you ever catch him in the middle in the morning like doing his hair?
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Oh, he always does that.
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Oh, he does that past the glass window.
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Yeah, you're the worst.
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So you're the most vain, lads.
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You're all in the middle of the moast each other.
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Look at me, look at me, he's fixing all these muzzles with that.
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I was like, uh they are.
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Is that what it is, lads?
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Yeah.
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Well, I'll be just got to tan only because he works outdoors.
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He looked nothing like when he was like, I mean, he's the biggest, yeah, he's the biggest.
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Out of all the buzz that he's yeah, he's he's the biggest, he says.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Which I am.
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Oh, you yours a little bit.
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Yeah.
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No, massive compared to yours.
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Yeah, I suppose he's a little bit.
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But the frame, the muscle, the Yeah, but I'm taller, so here we go.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
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So he's taller.
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He's taller.
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I'm the tallest.
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I'm the biggest, I'm the tallest.
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You know what?
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I went to the hospital the other day, they measured my height.
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I'm 183 centimetres now.
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So I'm finally six.
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He thinks he's gonna be taller than me and me and myself.
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I'm gonna be taller than me.
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I'm taller than him already.
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And I'm 16.
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And you're how old are you?
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You're 29.
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You're 18.
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And your little brother's taller than both of you.
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So you're just a genetic freak you're with.
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There's only one metre settling, and I'm sure you've probably already done it.
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Have a little spiral in it.
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No, we're gonna be able to get on the little spark.
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Out in the garden with the mucking.
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Yeah, my tooth eated on the trampoline, you're hard wrestling about it.
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We were mucking about, yeah.
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What wrestling moves on the book?
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Emmet Lava was playing Emmett Lava's doing MMA, yeah.
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So then as I've jumped, like we was all mucking about, we had the proper gloves as well.
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As I've jumped, I used on a flying knee.
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And I've smashed it.
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Right on the tooth chip tip, had to go dentist.
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Uh what was it?
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What's it called?
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Uh not the glass.
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Yeah, something like that.
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Like a fake sort of thing, yeah.
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And he was still there just staring because I'm not gonna go.
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I can see the one comment too now.
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Telling you afterwards, like grabbing me, you're going, please don't cry, please don't cry.
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Don't cry, don't cry.
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That's what you do.
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That's what you do when you didn't, you're like, oh shh, you're like, you can make it cry.
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That's the best.
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Are you like that with because you're a little bit older?
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You're like, oh, because he's bigger, you're a little bit like, oh no.
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No, no way.
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Not anymore.
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No.
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You must have your times though.
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No, when not anymore.
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No, not the problem when we were little kids, but now.
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There's not yeah, never ever been like that though too much.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Never been.
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We still have a little mess about push each other like, but not like but never actually meant it all fully like your brothers aren't, yeah.
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We've never we've never had a fight ever.
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Yeah.
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None of us like angry.
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Your mum would let you?
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No, I'll be right back.
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Your mum would not never know.
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Your dad would be like, come on, yeah, but you get it, you get it.
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But yeah, your mum definitely.
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And if she did, she'd ref it.
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As soon as you went for all the face part.
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Yeah.
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I love your mum, got a lot of time for your mum and your dad, and it's nice to that you spin around and seeing people grow up in the picture.
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These were coming in here when they was baby.
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We used to play on the um, what was it?
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Yeah, yeah.
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What's it?
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The football machine over there.
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Oh god, right.
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Put all the gloves, they'd come in, put all the gloves out everywhere.
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I've started each other with the pads.
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Every time before we came up with big, I know thought you told out.
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Every time when we were in the car, we pulled up and I'd just settle and mum with the soon as we walk through the doors, it'll work.
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Just got the playground, didn't it?
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Smashing on that football machine really break as well.
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We were like that when we worked here because it was too tempting not to go on it.
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Yeah, no.
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And then we would uh obviously do pads, mark it back, try like 50 pairs of different gloves on.
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Probably then put them back in the right place, so yeah, no, yeah.
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:24.799
Yeah, you literally watch you grow up, and we're we're a similar sort of age.
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I'm a little bit older than you, but even just I feel like watch you grow up, sort of thing, and then your brothers have come along, and yeah, it's it's nice and it like I said, it makes me feel old watching them sort of grow up grow up and then Yeah, that's how I feel sometimes.
00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:55.119
Yeah, but that's how I do when they're like taller than me, Ollie's taller than me, now yeah, like I remember when you were like down here and then so boys with with your boxing that archie was that you being the oldest out there of you and Ollie.
00:20:55.279 --> 00:21:00.559
Um did have you let me get my words out so did you win King of the Ring?
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Or just you won King of the Ring as well.
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Both won King of the Ring and that was your first that was my first proper fight, yeah.
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And obviously first proper fight you've won.
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First box cup.
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First box cup, and it's a big one as well, international.
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Yeah.
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Did you just go on from there and what other things did you go on to do within your amateurs?
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Uh then I hadn't um so I came back from that.
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Uh when's King of the Ring?
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That's like November.
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Yeah, it's almost like a winter sort of time.
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Yeah.
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When did you get to the final of the uh development use?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I got into the finals of the development use that was last year.
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Senior development.
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Senior development, yeah.
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Um five more less.
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Oh, I've had the skills pass as well.
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But you don't have actual fight.
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So you've had a card about she in a half.
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But if they've been a different weight, because obviously you've been coming down the weight, they've all been a different weight.
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So it's calmed down.
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What did the heavy should come down from about 86?
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No, it was 90.
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No, you're bigger than the that's without fight at fight at no.
00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:24.160
My first skills belt was about 80, so he calmed down massively with a weight.
00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:25.759
Yeah, no, fair play.
00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:32.000
And I briefly remember your different stages that you're at, and your mum always saying, Oh, he's at this weight now.
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:32.559
Yeah, yeah.
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And that weight.
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And you and you feel comfortable with the weight you are now and you're looking to lose any more, or you staying at this weight and then.
00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:43.839
No, I was trying to I'm happy at this weight that I am at the moment.
00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:49.759
Just trying to like build more of the muscle, lose some fat, like rip up a bit more.
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Yeah.
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But the the weight I feel fine.
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It's good it is the weight I'm at.
00:22:54.480 --> 00:23:02.640
And watching your older brother Pox, did you pick up any of the style of how he fought and put that into your own style of boxing or have you got your own unique?
00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:07.759
I think we box, because don't forget, you was uh unlicensed, wasn't it?
00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:16.960
Before I went amateur, I was a I I like that's why when I went to the amateur, I was at first I struggled a little bit with the pace because I always do loads more rounds.
00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.079
I'd be fighting eight, like to ten rounds sometimes.
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And then when you're doing three, three minute rounds, it's quick, quick, free.
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Very fast.
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:29.279
So that was what when I first went to amateur, I struggled with a little bit with how quick it was.
00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:29.599
Yeah.
00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:35.279
Until I got used to it and got used to and did and a little bit like yourself, did you get used to it?
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.359
Well, suppose you got no choice, have you?
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:48.079
No, yeah, because that uh when I first joined, I was like, obviously the first time you spar, like especially at Wreck, yeah.
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Southpool.
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What was you like when you got out of the ring and all Olive?
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Even the U Albi, what was you like when you first got out of your first spa?
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What was what went through your mind, or what did you say to your mum and dad?
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Were you like, I love this, or I'm not too sure?
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I can't really I can't even remember.
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:05.119
I can't remember.
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:06.799
But I've yeah, I'm sure it was that.
00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.279
I remember my first, like you say, my first competition, I never really liked it until I had my first competition.
00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.039
I got that buzz and that thrill, like the adrenaline and the nerves.
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.599
And ever since then, that's when I started to like do it more and more.
00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.000
Like I think, yeah, this is what this is what I want to do.
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:22.480
Yeah.
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.799
But until then, until I felt like that, it was a bit sort of like half-heartedly.
00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:31.039
I was only young anyway, it was only like he's like five when I started.
00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:39.920
So it went until about really about ten, maybe a little bit eight, nine, that I really started to train properly.
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:42.319
This is what I want to do, and that all the way through.
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:42.960
Yeah.
00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:49.759
And with you boys, it was just the your older brother, and obviously your uncles, like you said, you had that instant love for it.
00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:50.160
Yeah.
00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:54.960
So no matter how your first bar went, you were always gonna you're always gonna stick with it.
00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:55.759
Yeah, exactly.
00:24:57.599 --> 00:24:57.839
Yeah.
00:24:58.240 --> 00:24:59.680
So it's second nature almost.
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.920
Almost every day you set up the origin.
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.079
Like I used to yeah, I used to change every day.
00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:09.519
Because when I I said I was doing the both, I was I used to do the kickboxing after school.
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:09.839
Yeah.
00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:20.480
Then I'd finish kickboxing, I'd go home, change into my gear, go karate, come home from there, come the same thing for I did it for about two years, but it was too much in the end.
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:22.799
Yeah twice a day, every day, six days away.
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:24.400
Seven days away.
00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:29.680
Competitions, this so you boys were dragged along, or so to speak, at first.
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.359
We used to just mess up there as well.
00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.720
They've always been minded, ain't you always no matter what?
00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:37.119
So you'd obviously enjoyed it being.
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:38.880
Yeah, no, it's been good.
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:48.559
Yeah, and and Ollie, you started off and um you won King of the Ring, like like your brother, your first your first ones.
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:55.119
It's sort of nice that you both won like that tournament together at the same time, you first sort of won.
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.119
And where did you roll on from there, huh?
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:04.319
Uh how many boats have you had at the I've had 22 right now, and I've won 18, and I've won four other box cups.
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:10.480
I've won King of the Ring, Barroom, uh Riviera, and what's the other one?
00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:11.200
Monstown.
00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.279
Monk's down, that uh island.
00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:15.759
So have you just been a bit more natural at your weeks?
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:16.799
You've been happy with your weeks.
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:21.680
I've always made weight every time.
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:32.240
But before fights, I've always been under like a kg, or even maybe 1.5 kg, like my coaches would always say, eat more, get a bit of like grub in you.
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:45.440
Like you don't want to be weak, but I've I've first ever fight, I think I thought I was like 48, and then I went down to 42, and from then I've just gone up a little bit by a little bit, just like naturally.
00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:47.680
Yeah, I've never had a problem with making weight.
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.559
Is that why you've you've had more belt in your brother?
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:53.359
Because you just natter that weight, and obviously where you've been finding that weight.
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.440
But I've had to stop a couple times as well because I've had to been getting ill.
00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:57.759
Okay.
00:26:58.079 --> 00:27:00.799
So that's why I was like, because I've got uh what's it?
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.640
Autoimmune illness, so it's my immune system attacking me.
00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.839
So that proper does you in like with your training and that as well.
00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:16.559
Yeah, so sometimes you can't train with what he's got, so he has to have a time off, go to the hospital, get medication to yeah, yeah.
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:22.720
So that must be hard on you as well, because we're trying to find uh neutral ground with your weight, and then you and then you've got this.
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.839
No, it doesn't affect your weight, it's just affects the training.
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:41.200
Yeah, like once it's under medication and that it's fine, it is, but and then sometimes the medication stops working, and like I get really like proper ill, so then I've got to take like a month off or something, or maybe longer.
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:42.559
And yeah.
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:50.000
Well, does it just does it just like come on sort of overnight sort of thing, or is it when you're training you feel a bit weak, or what?
00:27:50.160 --> 00:27:51.039
No, it happens progress.
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:54.480
So like I said, like under medication, I don't feel it.
00:27:54.559 --> 00:28:02.720
It's like I've got nothing wrong with me, but and then once uh you can flare up, like you'll have to flare up and then and then it'll come back.
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.039
So you're just medicated constantly, yeah.
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:06.480
Whole life I'm gonna be medically.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:17.279
Yeah, uh yeah, it happens like progressively, like I can tell there's certain signs in that, and I can and then like as it goes on, it just gets worse and worse.
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.680
And it's like, yeah, no, I need to go to the hospital again.
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.799
Yeah, that was how that can affect sometimes, yeah.
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.680
Affect his boxing and and and your training.
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:26.400
Profit.
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:32.559
But your train's hard, though, when he has the time off he comes back to double hours, it doesn't take so long to get fit again.
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.720
To get fit, or he'll always run and run.
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:40.240
Or even while we always even if I don't go to the gym, like we've got the what's that noise?
00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:40.880
Do you hear that?
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.079
That was shooting.
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:43.759
Oh, is it the shooting's housing?
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:45.440
What is that noise?
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:46.960
Yeah, sorry.
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:56.319
No, yeah, but even if I don't make it to the gym and that, like we've got the equipment at home, we've got a bike at home, we've got the bag and that, so I'll always try and carry on training.
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:56.640
Yeah.
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.079
Depending on the day, it's at our house, ain't it?
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:01.279
Oh, we ain't gotta go anywhere.
00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:03.200
Man, nice we can't weights, yeah.
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:04.720
It's nice to have something like that.
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.359
And what are you used like as a as a unit?
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:12.720
You spare each other on, you know, you see how be getting up really early in the gym at three in the morning.
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.079
You're all constantly pushing, helpfully competing against each other.
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:18.720
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:30.079
Always getting it like around each other and that whether which was like it's good for I like it to see them growing up now and fighting and to know what they what obviously I know what they feel like when in the changing room when they're about to walk.
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:36.079
We've always had him get around each other and that every fight we've always had him in the changing rooms because he's been there and done it ain't gonna be.
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.319
Just literally basically calms us down, like just keeps us cool.
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:50.720
Like he's always because he's had way more fights than both of us combined, probably right now.
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:52.000
So he knows what to do.
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:58.000
That experience and being an older brother, it's like and not just not just in the experience, yeah.
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.720
Obviously, life experiences as as well.
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:02.720
It's hopefully we can touch on you.
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:07.279
Um I don't know what point it was, but well, I'll ask this first.
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.680
How come you how come you stopped boxing?
00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:12.960
Was it do you just get to a certain age where it captures most people?
00:30:13.920 --> 00:30:23.440
I got I had one fight and I fract I ended up having a fractured eye socket, and I come out of the ring, it was in in London on the Belfast Dockers show.
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.880
When they come over here, I crashed heads and I ended up fracturing my eye socket.
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:31.599
But I finished the fight and I was all over, I couldn't see my line was going to be alright.
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:37.759
And I was going, yeah, yeah, but I could this eye was completely like it was no one shutting, and all my balance was all over the place.
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:38.880
And I got out of the ring.
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:43.680
I got out of the ring, I sat in the changing room, and I couldn't, I couldn't get up, I couldn't move.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:50.559
And then I started being sick, and then straight away, like they was speaking, like they all the codes started where I was like, Oh, what's the matter?
00:30:51.200 --> 00:31:00.559
I couldn't really talk, and they thought, like, something was badly wrong, so they rushed me to the hospital and um they give me a uh X like uh what's it MOI scan?
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:05.519
Oh yeah for your head when you're going into the case.
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:06.799
Sounds sounds alright, yeah.
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:15.680
And they end up finding that I had like an orbital cyst on my brain, like water on my brain that shouldn't be there, like fluid.
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:35.200
And they sort of said, obviously, you wouldn't know it just through like natural, like you got it from like birth, and then they said, like, we suggest you never box again, because obviously, if it was to burst or something would happen, yeah, obviously it would you'll die, or you'd be paralysed, or they said, We don't know what could happen, but it won't be good.
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:35.759
Yeah.
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.160
So then I sort of weighed up my options and that.
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:43.519
I but I think I had one more fight after that, and I I just sort of was like, nah, I'm done with it, really.
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:44.799
Yeah, and what age was you now?
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.559
I think I was 25, 26, 25.
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:49.599
Around that, yeah.
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.440
So where did the Royal Marines come about?
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:53.680
Where did you see an advert or did you know?
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.000
I always liked the military when I was younger.
00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.920
Always been like my my dad, he always liked the military and that.
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.200
He was in like the TA.
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:03.680
And I've always been brought up around it.
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:08.480
And I used to go to all like the big events and watch all like the shows, go to the reenactments.
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:09.839
Yeah, we went one, didn't we?
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:10.400
Me and Arch.
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:11.440
They went too much.
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.359
So I was like after that, I just I felt a bit lost, I didn't know what to do.
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:20.480
I was like, well, you just trained your whole life to do something, and then stepped away from it.
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.160
I was like, what do I do now?
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:29.200
I didn't really just want to just go to work, and so I thought, I'm gonna go in the military, I'm gonna try to be a Royal Marines commando.
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:51.759
So then I started training for that, then I was all like I started training for that, and then lockdown happened, and I couldn't go in straight away, so I kept on training, done the tests, got through the tests, and then yeah, started basic training and was in there for about six, seven months like that, until they also found out I lied on my medical to get in.
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:53.920
Because it had with my orbital cyst on there.
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:54.240
Yeah.
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.039
I lied, I I I thought I forged the letter.
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.440
Because obviously, if they see that they wouldn't let me in.
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:00.799
Yeah, because that's what I was gonna ask.
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:02.000
How did you pass that medical?
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:12.559
So yeah, I like I thought I basically got the letter, re-written the letter, and got rid of that bit that it had an orbital cyst on my brain, because it only had the it only had the eye socket.
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:16.240
They wanted to see a discharge letter that my eye was like, 'cause I got mesh in there.
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:16.400
Yeah.
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:18.319
So any metal you have to declare it.
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.480
And obviously they they see it.
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.039
So when they wanted it back, it had about the water on my brain.
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:31.839
So I got rid of that quickly, give it back to them, pass, managed to get through with that, I couldn't believe it.
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:38.240
And it wasn't until it wasn't until the hospital discharged me that it flagged up on the system.
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:44.640
Because when they discharged me from the hospital, they put it on the system that obviously I was all clear, nothing was wrong.
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:56.400
They only kept an eye on it, so to make sure like nothing was gonna it weren't like getting bigger or so that when they discharged me, that's when it flagged up, and they called me in and they said, Right, you've got this, how comes we don't know about it.
00:33:57.279 --> 00:33:59.279
And then that was that was the end of that.
00:33:59.359 --> 00:33:59.519
Yeah.
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:00.720
Which was gutted, really.
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:05.279
Yeah, it's a shame, Shiny, being in getting that fat, getting that fat in training as well.
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.280
Yeah, that knocked me back a bit, but sort of like get over it, didn't you?
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.400
And that you have to carry on.
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:17.679
Yeah, I've been there, but I've been in that place, and it does it does drag you to a dark place, but it's having that unit of family around you.
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:18.159
Yeah, exactly.
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:18.480
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:23.119
It drags you through, and you know, my missus always says it that everything happens for the reason.
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:23.840
Yeah, of course.
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:26.719
And she always bang bangs in on that.
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.840
Yeah, it was good, it was a it was a big eye opener as well.
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:32.880
Like it was hard as well.
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:38.559
Foot when sometimes you think that you fit, obviously, you've gone through all the boxing and it's completely different.
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:39.679
Yeah, completely different.
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:41.519
Well, a lot of it's what's toughness as well.
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:42.880
It's up there, it's what's upstairs.
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:47.599
Yeah, you can be as fit as fit as a fiddle, but it's meant mentally.
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:56.719
I've never had so much of a laugh and and and yeah, just crazy, just the things that you used to do in there, and and all the blokes, all everyone's in the same boat.
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:06.000
You've got people that are 30, people that are 16, but all different ages, but everyone's all different places, but all in the same boat and that with each other.
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.920
But a bit like with the boxing gym, that's why I always liked it as well.
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.480
Yeah, everyone's always together, all everyone's different, but when you're in the gym, everyone's just the same.
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.760
Yeah, that's it, because you're all in the same boat, you're all there for the same reason.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.679
Everyone just encourages each other, training with each other, yeah, pushing each other.
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.280
It's the same with the military as well.
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:23.920
Yeah, 100%.
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.039
And the same what we do, they've we're always pushing each other, yeah.
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.119
Which is how you gotta be, I I always believe.
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:39.840
Yeah, 100% and boys, have you got any aspirations to to follow in Albi's footsteps of got trying the military route or not not right now.
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:45.039
Right now I just want to try and go as far as possible in the boxing game, yeah.
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:49.840
Like pro, whatever, just try to take it as far as I can until I can't.
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.199
Yeah, so that's your goal?
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.480
Yeah, to stick in for carry on and do what I'm doing.
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:55.519
Ah, that's what about you?
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.679
Yeah, I'd like to see how far I can go in this as well.
00:35:57.920 --> 00:35:58.960
As far as you can go as well.
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:00.800
Yeah, there's nothing to lose, ain't it?
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:01.840
See how far you can go.
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:03.760
You know, you can box in the Royal Marines and then.
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:05.519
Yeah, we have yeah, we have a lot of.
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.199
You only got to look at George Crotty a lot.
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:08.559
Do you know George Crowley?
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:09.920
He's a pro middleweight.
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:10.719
I think he's a middleweight.
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:11.280
Yeah, he's a minute.
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.000
He's a saving Royal Marine, but he's a pro.
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.039
I think he's 12 and all.
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.039
Yeah, just won the There's loads of fighters that actually title.
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:21.199
Some parents do fight as well.
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.280
Military doesn't really interest me.
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:33.360
No, no, not it does it interestes me a bit, but obviously, like, especially if I'm watching films and that what he's done and the time he had in there.
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:33.679
Yeah.
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:38.159
Also Satan's Albi I wouldn't be able to as well because my condition is.
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:38.880
Oh, okay, yeah.
00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:40.719
They wouldn't allow me in the military.
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:42.159
Not with what he's got.
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.159
Well, I know they clamped down on it massively.
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.679
I think I think even some people have like X-Meth can't even be able to do that.
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:48.639
Yeah, they can't.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.079
And they wonder why the recruitment drives sold out.
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:54.800
They can get loans, people in.
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.920
But did they just with with you, did they just not want to insure that?
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.440
No, because it could have gone.
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:09.360
Yeah, that uh you say that I could I said I'd I'd sign anything and that but they just won't have it because obviously it would be on them, wouldn't it?
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:17.920
It would be on them if anything was to the responsibility of that if the if it does burst, then they're gonna take the blame.
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.960
And that's because a company cut came in called Capita.
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:39.199
Yeah, and they took over the recruitment of the of the British military and and I think they looked at how many people were suing the army for personal injuries and they just changed it completely and any box there, you literally motors were ticking it that we had something, that we had something because of that's what what did you have yourself?
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:49.599
So I I had um a stress fracture that I that I didn't know and it built up, built up, built up, and I ended up cracking um my leg.
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:58.880
And then literally just routine, routine PT, yeah, three mile, three miles, so going there, and I just fell over.
00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:00.239
I just thought I fell over.
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.159
And then I stood up but couldn't stand up when I put the weight on it.
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:05.199
I just dropped.
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.239
Then the PTI said, You've done something, stay down.
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:11.280
And I was like, nah, nah, nah, I'm not getting in the wagon and let that happen.
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.559
And he said, No, no, no, you can't even put weight on it, you've done something.
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.360
And then just went through all that.
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:27.199
They took you to the hospital, done the scans and things, and it started from a stress fracture, which is basically what you get when you've just done roll running too much, basically chin sprints, that's what it is.
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.119
Stress factors are fancy words.
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:37.840
Um but I just think we all get them when you're training, when you're roll running, putting the hard miles in, but I ignored it and ignored it, ignored it.
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.039
And when I ignored it and I treated it, I cracked the bone completely.
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:42.559
Cracked the bone completely.
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:43.760
But you couldn't believe it.
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.039
What did I have come over?
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:46.960
Did that do not bones or nothing?
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:51.280
Nah, because because I've had the percentage of how it cracked, I didn't I didn't need to.
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:51.440
No.
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.000
So I was lucky, but it was an MD straight away.
00:38:54.559 --> 00:39:01.519
Um and then years later, I tr I I tried again the second time around, but Capital took over.
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:02.880
Yeah, so it wasn't.
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:04.639
Why did they say that?
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:09.840
Went through selection everything as soon as as soon as it came up on the form.
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.199
How have you got it here?
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.159
I'm like, well, same as everyone else.
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Yeah.
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Saved before, done this, done that.
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I'm here.
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They were like, no, you should never have been through here because of that form.
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Been injured before.
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Could be a recurring problem.
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Um shook me off straight away.
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Yeah, anything, anything.
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As soon as I said they just don't want it.
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And and I'd started the military career when I was like 15, so yeah, you boys.
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Yeah.
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So I I grew up with ADHD and was medicating all this rubbish.
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Yeah.
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And I had to like get off it because at the time they weren't accepting people on on medication.
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So yeah, it was frustrat frustrating because back then, back then, when I first joined, it was you got one arm, you're in, sort of thing.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Whereas now, like I just said, the any minor thing, like any minor thing because they don't want to take responsibility for it.
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But yeah, it's it's it's a shame, and I was following your journey constantly, always asking every time you want to come in, and because the Royal Marines are the best of the best.
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You know, when it would have been nice to to see you follow that through and pass and pass out.
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So boys, you're following on when you're boxing, happy at legends of the moment.
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Very got aspirations to go pro.
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Yeah.
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But if you did have a back burner, what would it be?
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Like a like a I don't want to say a full backs that's negative, but someone in the background.
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Back a backpack man, something in the background.
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Uh I've always thought fire brigade for joining.
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Yeah, I've always thought fire brigade, or just go and work with our scaffolding.
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Sky comes home every day laughing.
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Look at his time.
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Like look at the time when he's up on the moves and that.
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Yeah, always saying about like just funny moments and just funny things that's happened throughout the day.
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And like who he's working with as well.
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We actually boxed with his governor's son, Sugar.
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He's about Governor, he his boy.
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Boxes at Dagenham.
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Oh, okay.
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No, Farrock's alright now.
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He's a Farrock now.
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Yeah, he wasn't Daganham.
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He wasn't Dagenham when he went to when we went to Farrock, he went as well.
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And obviously, we're not at Farrak no more.
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Yeah.
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No, but boys, it's been great to have you on and listen to your story.
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It's great to see how close you are as brothers, and you know, that blood brothers sort of thing about closer bonders, and that's great to see.
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So, and best of luck with your career.
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Thank you very much.
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As always, we'll be following it.
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I'll be even with you keeping up with that time, we'll be following and I really appreciate them.
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Boys take me for YouTube.
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Best of luck.
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Thank you.
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Guys, really hope you enjoyed that episode just as much as I did.
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If you don't, give us a nice rate and whatever you pick up your podcast, like and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
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And more importantly, uh follow these boys on the social media.
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I'll be up and in Scaffold and getting this time and what he's looking what he's up to.
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Training in the gym at three o'clock.
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And Artie and all he followed their journey's coming through the amateurs now.
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We've got big aspirations, and the biggest thing and best thing of all, the brothers, and they're they're gonna cheer each other on and hopefully get there one day.
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So, cheers guys, and remember, always be prepared to step into the ring and be first.