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00:00:12.015Welcome to Babe.
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00:00:16.309What Do you Know About the podcast with your favorite husband and wife, duo Sam?
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00:00:23.664Each week we dive deep into a new subject, blending fun and seriousness to push boundaries and buttons.
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00:00:43.006Get ready to expand your knowledge, challenge your perspectives and have a blast along the way on mtv, but it feels so empty without me sounds like m&m, keep going you want me to keep?
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00:00:45.011Yeah go with with the lyrics.
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00:00:55.232I'll keep going then.
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00:00:59.508So this must be mean.
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00:01:02.854I'm disgusting, but it's just me, I'm just obscene.
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00:01:15.953Though I'm not the first king of controversy, I am the worst thing since elvis presley to do black music so selfishly and use it to get myself wealthy accurate, all the accurate.
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00:01:17.275What a self-aware person.
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00:01:18.659What a self-aware individual.
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00:01:23.030I don't know how you can stand to look at me right now.
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00:01:27.888What does that mean, with my eyes being the way that they are?
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00:01:30.186Maybe that's you know, I'm into.
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00:01:48.501I woke up on Sunday on a Mother's Day with my left eye like glued shut and then, when I could crank it open, it was swollen.
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00:01:53.453It looked horrible and I have some sort of weird eye infection out of nowhere, for no reason.
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00:01:55.263I'm pretty mad about it.
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00:02:00.623Now that that one is getting better, the other one is now infected.
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00:02:03.429You're welcome everyone.
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00:02:08.405For my medical history, I did, however, find out like a week ago no, like yesterday.
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00:02:18.388I found out yesterday that for about two years I've had like a piece of ankle bone broken and chipped off so I mean, how did it chip off?
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00:02:21.192I, okay, I was.
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00:02:22.774It was two years ago.
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00:02:25.504Max was probably two or three weeks old.
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00:02:49.991I was trying to carry him from the ground to somewhere else and my foot got hooked in the baby bouncer seat and, instead of catching myself, I saved the brand new baby and let it wreck my ankle there's kind of twisted yeah, but it was also like really compressed like the whole thing just like cut right into my ankle it was really painful I thought I had broken it at the time.
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00:02:55.605But all the x-rays, all the doctors are like you're fine, it'll get better by himself, nope not.
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00:03:21.504If it chips off, yep, it can't two years of me trying to convince a doctor that something's actually wrong and it's not going to fix itself I could cut it out for you if you want seems like a horrible idea okay I don't know why you would suggest that it just seems like the only obvious solution it would be the cheapest initially and then probably inevitably the most expensive option after that.
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00:03:23.769All right, right, thank you for your willingness.
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00:03:26.493Though Anything else, fun we've done.
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00:03:30.950Our four-year-old had her first little dance concert.
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00:03:35.143Oh, that was just adorable Highlight of my life so far.
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00:03:42.224I'm sure there's going to be more of these moments, but this was the first one.
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00:03:44.466Yeah, it was so exciting, exciting.
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00:03:47.405We're hitting a new phase of parenthood yeah, it's a lot of fun.
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00:04:00.830We finished the prototype for the board game so exciting, have you sent it in and everything to the manufacturer yes, now we're just going through proofing and back and forth until they make the prints the printing that's crazy.
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00:04:13.383Feels like not real yeah, we have a digital copy up on Tabletop Simulator that we're playing privately, so if there's anyone here listening that wants to, feel free to message me and maybe we could arrange a time.
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00:04:14.968That'd be dope Dope.
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00:04:15.751I'm so excited.
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00:04:20.545So that means the release of the game on Kickstarter is probably a couple months away.
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00:04:25.581It's getting there couple months away, july.
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00:04:28.209yeah, it's getting so close, it's getting there it feels like it's been forever, though it's like four years of.
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00:04:34.387I mean it has been forever making this thing damn well, better be good, it's so good like I.
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00:04:43.567It's one of those things where it's like it's hard to be proud of your own stuff sometimes you know, you're just like I don't want to you know, but this scene, the final product, and everything comes comes together.
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00:04:45.250I'm like you know, what Actually?
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00:04:46.533This is really good.
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00:04:49.966Yeah, like no false modesty over here, which.
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00:04:51.490I like that's awesome.
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00:04:57.271Well, today's going to be hopefully a fun episode, a lot more lighthearted than the last three.
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00:05:02.091We've been on shootings and genocide and protests and stuff.
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00:05:06.069I don't know what you feel this episode is about trafficking.
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00:05:07.459I don't know what you feel this episode is about trafficking.
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00:05:09.708I don't understand why you think this is lighthearted.
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00:05:13.247That's not at all what the episode is about.
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00:05:20.505So get ready to explore the exploding world of smart equipment.
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00:05:26.581I'm going to label this episode smart stuff, because that's what we're talking about smart stuff.
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00:05:32.487Lives are being transformed by a wave of connected devices, from the light bulbs in our homes to the watches on our wrists.
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00:05:44.803Statistics predict a staggering 38 billion connected devices by 2025, which is roughly five devices per person, meaning that smart tech is rapidly becoming woven into the fabric of daily routines.
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00:05:49.449We're going to talk about the background and usage of smart stuff.
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00:06:13.685With great connectivity comes great responsibility, and so we're going to talk about the security considerations of a smart stuff world.
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00:06:16.812So, whether you're already a convert to smart stuff or just curious about the future, babe, what do you know about smart equipment?
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00:06:21.985A little bit, a little bit more in the last week yeah, because uh two things happened this week.
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00:06:25.994We um finally succumbed to get Apple Watches again.
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00:06:33.488So a long time ago in the galaxy far, far away.
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00:06:39.507Yeah, taylor wanted an Apple Watch, and so I bought her an Apple Watch.
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00:07:03.507No, what happened was you had paid so much money for it and I felt like I was too dumb to be getting like enough use out of it to justify the cost.
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00:07:04.865So I was stressed.
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00:07:09.281But we tried again.
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00:07:14.276Here we are again and we both have an apple watch and taylor is wearing it 24 7, that's positive.
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00:07:16.322She's shaking her head, she's wearing it.
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00:07:31.081Yeah, I slept in it one time, but I don't like sleeping with stuff I've I slept with it one time and I'm struggling to put it on, but I I want to because it's I like it for the sleep tracking, because that's super important to me right now, because I'm trying to fix.
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00:07:37.841Told you you slept like three hours, three hours and 50 minutes yeah concerning it is concerning.
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00:07:40.127I want to sleep a lot more anyways.
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00:07:47.300Also, taylor for mother's day got one of those large digital calendars a smart calendar.
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00:07:50.545This is called a skylight calendar, I think it's.
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00:07:54.394I actually really like it yeah it's pretty dope.
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00:07:55.843I was like this is so stupid.
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00:08:01.946I'm like, okay, this is actually pretty cool.
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00:08:18.944I mean, it's expensive for what it is it is, which is why I didn't just like buy it for myself it's actually really nice like the functionality, like the inner interface and how easy it is, so I can just tap on the screen and blah, blah, it's great yeah, you can check what's going on ella's been doing.
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00:08:23.100We've given her two chores every day to start, which is hug mom and hug dad.
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00:09:01.328She's been very diligent about doing those chores and checking them off on the smart calendar, which she has enjoyed I added hug max, and so she's doing that too yeah, we gotta add some actual chores there I'd also if she would be happy to clean the roof and she said no, also also, you place it on my working area, like my quote-unquote office the dining room table and since it's right there, I, instead of like going into google, you know, to actually set calendar stuff, I'm just leaning over to my right and going with my finger tap, tap, tap tap tap, tap and then I'm setting scheduling stuff on there instead of on my personal calendar.
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00:09:03.581But I'm I'm sure we can link it all together you can.
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00:09:04.745You can absolutely.
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00:09:10.826The best part is just that it syncs with whatever calendar, so if I put something in my apple calendar it shows up on there.
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00:09:13.620You can assign it to different people, you can make it recurring.
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00:09:15.364You can do a whole bunch of stuff.
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00:09:24.331It's so nice here's another interesting thing right next to us, with what the calendar is actually plugged into, is a smart what's called outlet.
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00:09:27.869I didn't, I didn't know that was a smart outlet, yeah this is a smart app.
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00:09:29.044It can be controlled by Google.
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00:09:38.969Yeah, so funny story about smart stuff, random stuff.
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00:09:44.273So my boss, when I moved bosses I actually worked for a smart home company.
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00:09:46.506But this is just wait a second.
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00:09:48.774Is this just like a big giant ad MLM?
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00:09:49.759Yeah, for your selling thing.
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00:09:51.326I worked for an MLM, no, no.
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00:09:56.568I won't even say the company, but I worked for a smart home company, so we'll talk about that later.
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00:09:58.284But I was transferred.
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00:10:07.804Oh my, so I was transferred from one one department to another and my new boss, they all use apple, so I switched.
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00:10:07.965I was.
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00:10:14.905I was given an option but it was very strongly suggested option to switch to macbook it's a good ecosystem.
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00:10:16.048Oh yeah, absolutely.
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00:10:22.971I don't think the performance is that much different through from like a different pc, but the ecosystem is so good, pretty good anyway.
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00:10:27.412So I did switch and I was given this apple mouse as well.
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00:10:33.687I don't know if you know this story, but I've never used an apple mouse and I didn't know how to use it and I didn't love the look of it.
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00:10:53.009So I just left that apple mouse in the box on my table and I had my laptop up on a stand and I just use a normal keyboard and I just had my monitor and then a normal mouse and then anytime I needed to swipe between screens I would put my hand up on my actual laptop that was on its stand and like swipe how I needed to.
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00:10:57.904And then I was meeting with our air table guy that works.
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00:11:05.567I mean, that's not his job, but he's literally done the work of at least half of someone's job in one project on air table.
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00:11:06.048It's been cool.
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00:11:10.405And he like watched me do that and he was like what, what are you doing?
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00:11:13.432And I was like I don't know what you're talking about.
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00:11:16.770And I was like I'm just getting to the next windows.
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00:11:18.918And he's like where's your mouse?
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00:11:20.201I was like this is my mouse.
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00:11:21.504He's like where's your apple mouse?
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00:11:24.032And I was like oh, I don't know how to use it.
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00:11:29.672And he was like you use the exact same, but just on the mouse, not on the trackpad.
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00:11:31.341And I was like, is it that easy?
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00:11:37.708He's like yep, I tried it the next day and my life has been changed so dumb.
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00:11:45.134I literally just let like, let it sit there for like three months and didn't use it okay, so this mouse is actually really cool.
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00:11:49.134It's so much functionality and you can go into your settings and mess around with it too.
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00:11:56.408There's a lot of stuff but, there's one thing it fails to do nicely that why you need two separate buttons.
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00:12:09.307There's some functionality in some games or some programs where you need to hold down the left click and then interact with the right click a little bit like on and off, on and off, on and off, and twist while you're still holding the left click down.
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00:12:10.825This cannot do that.
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00:12:12.499No, you're on one side of the other.
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00:12:14.725We're talking about an Apple mouse right now.
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00:12:16.049But anyways.
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00:12:23.823None of this is sponsored in any way, but we have so much smart stuff so we just got our first.
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00:12:32.008We haven't had Alexa or Google or anything, so we got our first one at Christmas time, also thanks to my company.
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00:12:33.264It was a good Christmas gift.
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00:12:44.548Which is hilarious, because my friend Conrad, he's had a Google Home, I think, since forever and he just keeps buying more and more stations for around his house to do more and more things.
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00:12:46.405And we have one just sitting right there, unboxed.
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00:12:48.125I know we'll use it.
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00:12:49.965That's what you keep saying.
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00:12:52.153And he controls everything with it.
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00:13:00.023So it's just like everything is just on, like automations, and he, he, he likes to work in creating automations just in general and programming and other stuff.
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00:13:30.832So he's like he just likes to automate his entire life yeah, which is, I mean, the direction things are going for sure I just, we pretty much use it as a glorified speaker and, and we, yes, but we tell it to play music and it does a bad job it's so bad, we'll be like play the bluey theme music and it'll be like some other random, I'm like no, and even like common popular songs, it'll just get wrong.
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00:13:32.063so it's very frustrating actually.
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00:13:38.114So maybe that's why we haven't done the other one, because I haven't been that impressed with the single functionality that we've used on it.
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00:13:40.447But that's what we have.
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00:13:46.289Other smart stuff that we have I wouldn't say we have a smart thermostat yet, but we should get one.
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00:13:50.211It's smart-ish, but it's not smart.
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00:13:53.208It's nicer looking and digital, but no, it it's smart-ish, but it's not smart.
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00:14:00.711It's nicer looking and digital, but no, it doesn't sync to an automation and sends things around the house and adjusts no it can, but it needs a lot of work to do that.
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00:14:06.486Not a smart thermostat, no no, we used to have a smart lock.
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00:14:08.202We used the August lock.
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00:14:08.784It's downstairs.
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00:14:12.486Yeah, so we used to have a smart lock.
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00:14:19.730Yeah, now I just use this dumb old key yeah we haven't ever had a doorbell camera since we've been together.
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00:14:20.852No, but we have.
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00:14:27.626We actually have one lying around here somewhere we, we were gifted, we were gifted one like a couple years ago and it's probably sitting in the gift closet.
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00:14:39.881Oh, we need to use that yeah, we do have like a couple indoor cameras that we use, because we, our kids, were nannied in our home and we use them as like baby monitors for the babies other smart stuff that we have.
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00:14:46.461We don't have a smart fridge you know, our washer and dryer are smart and we don't do what does that mean?
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00:14:49.369It connects to the wi-fi and we can tell it to do stuff.
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00:14:51.081I think it connects to like remotely.
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00:14:52.865Yeah, I think we can tell google to do google.
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00:14:59.879Yeah, I did not know that yeah, we just gotta, we're just gonna set it up yeah, and then smart watches.
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00:15:04.311Obviously, I'm still learning about functionality, but it is motivating.
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00:15:05.212Well, let's talk about that.
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00:15:08.285Okay, let's let's first talk about smart watches.
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00:15:12.299Wearable technology it's there hasn't been much right.
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00:15:13.779This is definitely more cutting edge wearable technology.
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00:15:14.019It's there hasn't been much right.
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00:15:21.581This is definitely more cutting edge wearable technology is smart watches, and I would say that it's especially utilized in the exercise.
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00:15:25.047I don't want to say community sector.
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00:15:28.052You know what I mean.
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00:15:32.265I don't know your eyes are struggling right now I know you're blurry.
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00:15:50.009I like can't see you I'm actually pretty clear, but it's your eyes I um I can see out of one eye the original bad eye, but it is like, and I will say for me it's been pretty motivating.
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00:15:58.388I've been able to set it up to like remind me to stand every hour, which is actually huge for someone who lives a very sedentary work style, working a very sedentary job.
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00:16:09.129It's been a big deal that was actually the biggest surprise, because I I just went through the default setup and I was just sitting there working on the first time for one minute an hour yeah and then it gave me a buzz and I was like, what is?
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00:16:09.890What do you want?
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00:16:19.801oh, stand up okay so I stood up, yeah walked around and you know yeah, I've been doing it and I'm like, wow, why is it so hard to stand up for one minute per hour?
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00:16:30.163Um, but I have been motivated to go on like more walks or to check my heart rate every now and then.
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00:16:32.990Oh, I'll tell you, my smartwatch will tell you.
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00:16:35.581Actually, a minute ago it was 84 bpm.
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00:16:46.081I actually don't know what's normal, so I could have like really bad bpm and I've been, I've been seeing in the 80s for myself as well, like between 80 91 right now 80 and like 89 typically.
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00:16:56.948Hopefully that's not bad probably it is someone's gonna message us and be like I'm a doctor and you guys really need to go be seen anyway, just things like that also.
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00:16:58.611It's been nice for me in.
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00:17:07.868I feel like I've been on my phone less especially when I'm with the kids because I don't feel like, oh, I'm gonna miss a message or a call if I don't have my phone by me.
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00:17:26.561But I'm more tempted to just like be on whatever crap social media or whatever when I have my actual phone, which I don't on my watch, so I can like leave my phone back in the room and be with the kids without feeling like I might miss something important, because I can just quickly look on my wrist and usually it's not important and I just like move on yeah, no, I've noticed that too also.
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00:17:27.584I used it for golf.
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00:17:41.021So yeah, you want to talk about that smart watch specifically for golf that I did buy yeah, you bought me a garmin, and a golf garmin yeah, golf garmin um I think you've used it one time I.
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00:17:57.869Maybe it's the strap or the watch, but it was uncomfortable I don't know why they would design an uncomfortable watch to wear while golfing, but the apple watch actually was comfortable, so so sell the garmin please yeah, if anyone's interested in a garmin golf, specifically garmin watch please reach out, that's uncomfortable allegedly.
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00:18:13.612Please, we have a good price for you okay, you don't know this, but that took like six takes this is the second take sure, whatever, whatever you want to say.
00:18:13.759 -->
00:18:16.128I told Sam my excuses that I'm on drugs, but I'm actually not.
00:18:16.128 -->
00:18:19.190I'm just on eye drops and lack of sleep.
00:18:19.519 -->
00:18:19.760Anyway.
00:18:19.760 -->
00:18:26.092So let me tell you one more Just let me finish about this golf usage.
00:18:26.881 -->
00:18:28.066Oh, the Apple Watch.
00:18:28.760 -->
00:18:29.021Anyway.
00:18:29.021 -->
00:18:40.550So the watch is comfortable and I have my actual normal golf app, that I have my phone to kind of track scores, shots, blah, blah all the little tiny details about golf.
00:18:40.550 -->
00:18:43.545I can do it just on my watch now, so I can just leave the.
00:18:43.545 -->
00:18:46.560I don't have to go back to my phone after every you know hole or whatever.
00:18:46.601 -->
00:18:57.949I can just literally just play and tap my watch a couple times after he's doing like a little teppy motion on the watch he's not wearing right now sounds amazing.
00:18:57.949 -->
00:18:59.330Sounds really good for golf.
00:18:59.330 -->
00:19:13.032Anything I can do to get you play more golf like I will really no, dang it you can play a reasonable amount of golf, which apparently to us is at least once a week, usually twice.
00:19:13.740 -->
00:19:15.727At least while the weather's good, we'll go once a week.
00:19:15.727 -->
00:19:16.830Yeah, true, true.
00:19:17.680 -->
00:19:19.125Okay, so a lot of smart stuff.
00:19:19.125 -->
00:19:25.965So I work I feel like I've mentioned this before I work for a smart home company.
00:19:25.965 -->
00:19:29.912Have I said that I'm joking?
00:19:29.912 -->
00:19:30.593Are you talking to me?
00:19:30.613 -->
00:19:34.782Yeah, I'm joking, oh yeah, no, that's very funny are you talking to me?
00:19:34.782 -->
00:19:35.124Yeah, I'm, oh yeah.
00:19:35.124 -->
00:19:35.586No, that's very funny.
00:19:35.586 -->
00:19:36.269You looked a little concerned.
00:19:36.269 -->
00:19:37.295I'm joking, I didn't realize you were talking to me.
00:19:37.295 -->
00:19:38.078You're who else would I be talking to?
00:19:38.078 -->
00:19:39.021You're not looking at me.
00:19:39.182 -->
00:19:40.846I am looking at you.
00:19:40.846 -->
00:19:47.367One of my eyes is you're so rude.
00:19:47.367 -->
00:19:53.115That's what ellie's been saying that so, which is mad at me you are so rude.
00:19:53.115 -->
00:19:57.585I am looking at you.
00:19:57.585 -->
00:19:58.905I work for a smart home company.
00:19:58.905 -->
00:20:11.471I don't know if you knew this, but that's what pays the bills, and it's actually been very cool, because my job is to train the technicians that install and service the smart home equipment how to do just those things.
00:20:11.471 -->
00:20:14.442Did I know how to do that at all before my job?
00:20:14.482 -->
00:20:18.582no, definitely not definitely not, but now I do and I'm very good at teaching people how to do it.
00:20:18.582 -->
00:20:25.823Regardless, the stuff the the applications of the smart home equipment is like so cool.
00:20:26.423 -->
00:20:41.611I really want the equipment ourselves in our home okay and, and a lot of it is just because I always like part of me teaching people how to do their jobs well is also teaching them how to build value in those products as they're installing it for people and help people know how to use them.
00:20:41.611 -->
00:20:45.001So, for example, we have something called a smart plug.
00:20:45.001 -->
00:20:57.625It's kind of like this, but it integrates with the hub that they use as like the brains of the whole smart home and a lot of like the.
00:20:57.625 -->
00:21:05.332I think the original design of it was to be like a lamp module to be able to plug in lamps to it and turn them on and off and dim them and stuff, even if it was a dumb lamp.
00:21:05.332 -->
00:21:10.227It's now a smart lamp, but we have brainstormed so many uses just for a smart plug.
00:21:10.227 -->
00:21:19.586For example, do you have a wife who uses heated hair products that they frequently forget on as a fire hazard in the home?
00:21:20.127 -->
00:21:22.452no you don't, but a lot of people do.
00:21:22.452 -->
00:21:30.925And the nice thing about a smart plug that integrates with a system that you can access from anywhere is you can be like oh shoot, did I leave my hair straightener on?
00:21:30.925 -->
00:21:32.189Let me check that on my phone.
00:21:32.189 -->
00:21:34.334Oh I did, let me go ahead and turn that off.
00:21:34.334 -->
00:21:37.259Or set it on an automated timer.
00:21:37.259 -->
00:22:10.311Or if you have a, if you're a plant person and you have like heated plant lamps that you want to put on a timer and go on and off at the right times, or if you have a dumb coffee machine that you want to turn into a smart coffee machine, just a smart plug plug can automate so many things no, for sure just that one thing yeah so I I am someone who has seen like a huge value in smart home equipment, like the more and more I learn and teach people about it, and especially people who are parents or caregivers or like have elderly people in their home.
00:22:10.332 -->
00:22:27.339There's so many things that you can do with a smart home to make that role a lot easier yeah, so honestly, from what it sounds like and again, this is not a plug for vivint- yeah, none of this is sponsored but it sounds like because so from all the products, because you've kind of been sharing with me the different products and like what
00:22:27.359 -->
00:22:29.964they do and stuff, it's all that.
00:22:29.964 -->
00:22:37.672That stuff kind of exists in the ecosystem of things that you can buy, that like like this, this plug, and you know that smart thing.
00:22:37.672 -->
00:22:43.847And you know that when I pointed out that you know the google home, you you've got another smart thermostat you can have.
00:22:43.847 -->
00:23:04.231But it's kind of like I guess I would compare it to like the apple or mac ecosystem, where everything kind of talks nicely to each other because, every single one of these things works and it has a technology in it, but sometimes it doesn't talk nicely and involves some additional technological.
00:23:04.640 -->
00:23:05.826Yeah, it can be frustrating.
00:23:06.119 -->
00:23:07.819Yeah, skills to make it all work nicely.
00:23:07.819 -->
00:23:12.885So if you're like super tech savvy, you don't need something like that.
00:23:13.126 -->
00:23:13.347Yeah.
00:23:13.539 -->
00:23:18.770But even if you are tech savvy and you just want ease of use, it just sounds like it's all just kind of like an ecosystem, that just works.
00:23:19.712 -->
00:23:33.521Yeah, and I will say that this is kind of what we teach is that the benefit of just like a smart home versus like a smart product you have in your home is that typically these products really integrate and interface with each other.
00:23:33.521 -->
00:23:46.771For example, if you have door window sensors that are just around the home to like let you know when those windows are open or closed, that can interface with the smart thermostat so that the smart thermostat knows, oh, the windows are open.
00:23:46.771 -->
00:23:47.856I shouldn't be working.
00:23:47.856 -->
00:23:49.583It's inefficient for me to be on right now.
00:23:49.943 -->
00:24:21.670When're closed, I will go on and then you have like a smart garage and if you have a car guard in that car, then then your home can, depending on how much automation you have, you could program your house to be like when my car gets within this, this distance from the garage door, I want the garage door to open, I want the porch light to turn on, I want my home to unlock, I want the thermostat to turn down and I want this smart plug to turn on, like you can just have that be something that arrive, that happens when you arrive home and the opposite when you leave.
00:24:21.891 -->
00:24:25.707When I leave, I want all these outlets to turn off.
00:24:25.707 -->
00:24:33.288I want all the lights to turn off, I want the thermostat to figure itself out, I want everything to be locked, I want everything to be armed and I want the garage door closed.
00:24:33.288 -->
00:24:39.166It's pretty cool like you can automate all of that with a smart home, and the more you have, the more you can automate.
00:24:39.166 -->
00:24:50.163Which is probably why your friend conrad keeps getting more stuff is because you can do more, because they learn from each other you know who could have really used all this technology?
00:24:51.145 -->
00:24:56.903The McAllisters Do I know them?
00:24:56.903 -->
00:25:00.522Kevin McAllister Do I know him?
00:25:00.522 -->
00:25:01.365Who is that?
00:25:01.365 -->
00:25:03.630Have you seen that movie Home Alone?
00:25:03.971 -->
00:25:12.553Oh, yes, yes, yes, Like one time, Like 20 years ago, Anyways he could have.
00:25:12.470 -->
00:25:12.838He really could have used that.
00:25:12.838 -->
00:25:12.886I mean he could have.
00:25:12.886 -->
00:25:13.134He really could have used that.
00:25:13.134 -->
00:25:20.794I mean he could have also used, just like basic sense, to check that all your children are with you before you leave the country.
00:25:20.794 -->
00:25:23.306But yes, they could have used it.
00:25:23.306 -->
00:25:35.785So here's an interesting statistic right now, there's about 300 million smart homes globally or what people would classify as smart homes and they're projected to have over 530 million by 2025.
00:25:35.785 -->
00:25:36.907So what do you think?
00:25:36.907 -->
00:25:50.531Do you think the smart home thing is just kind of the new fad that people are doing, or do you feel like it's here to stay and it's just yeah, it's here to stay as long as the world economy holds up then, yeah, it's here to stay because it's just um.
00:25:50.952 -->
00:25:55.030The technology that's coming in now is usable technology.
00:25:55.030 -->
00:25:58.529It's not just like hey look, we were able to do this for the sake of being able to do this.
00:25:58.529 -->
00:26:00.586It's actually very usable now.
00:26:01.047 -->
00:26:03.721Yeah, yeah, that's true Apparently.
00:26:03.721 -->
00:26:07.68075% of home consumer, of smart home consumers, are younger than 55.
00:26:07.680 -->
00:26:18.515Yeah, I feel like there I do and I don't right From like me, sorry, I'm just talking to myself A generational divide in the adoption of smart equipment?
00:26:18.515 -->
00:26:36.884I feel like in theory there is, but a lot of our customers, like at our company, are not generationally young, they're older people who really can use that equipment, like there's even like smart medical pendants that they can have in their home or things that they can use.
00:26:36.884 -->
00:26:45.204So I feel like once older people know what a smart home is and what it can do for them, I think they're really open to the idea.
00:26:46.470 -->
00:26:55.876But maybe that's the barrier, right, it's just like awareness of it and confidence that they can like use it yeah do you feel like it's something your parents would?
00:26:56.498 -->
00:27:04.339yeah, it's just all about like education on how to use the systems, and you know, for the most part, they pick it up really well.
00:27:04.580 -->
00:27:24.365It's just that they they don't seek it out, and so it really needs to be one of those things that you're just kind of going to bring to them, show them how to use it and then, yeah, integrate it and that's why companies like that still do like direct-to-home, door-to-door sales, because you're literally bringing the information right to someone's doorstep, which I think our generation doesn't vibe with.
00:27:24.365 -->
00:27:27.684But I do think people in our parents' generation are like way more open to.
00:27:27.684 -->
00:27:40.808The other thing is that having a smart home can drop your home insurance rates significantly, like up to 20 and the reason for that is that one, your home works more economically is that the right word?
00:27:41.277 -->
00:27:42.682but also it's more protected, right?
00:27:42.682 -->
00:27:53.723Because you usually have smoke detectors, smart smoke detectors, and flood detectors and all of the burglary detectors and all these different things that protect the asset, I suppose.
00:27:53.723 -->
00:28:01.981So I don't know if that's something that I feel like that would be marketable to me and I think could hope.
00:28:01.981 -->
00:28:04.564But again, like how many people own their homes these days?
00:28:04.634 -->
00:28:07.942That's half the problem too right, that's a whole nother podcast.
00:28:08.714 -->
00:28:10.401Homeownership or the lack thereof.
00:28:10.662 -->
00:28:11.384The lack thereof.
00:28:11.384 -->
00:28:12.679Have you seen the stats on this?
00:28:12.679 -->
00:28:13.701It's so bad.
00:28:14.825 -->
00:28:14.925No.
00:28:15.515 -->
00:28:19.942So the most recent data that I've seen on this it's something like millennials.
00:28:19.942 -->
00:28:21.701So millennials are old.
00:28:21.701 -->
00:28:22.604Now I'm 40.
00:28:22.604 -->
00:28:25.501Only half of millennials own their home.
00:28:26.704 -->
00:28:32.402Half, which is significantly less than other generations at the same stage of life right.
00:28:32.595 -->
00:28:35.064And then 18 to 24-year-olds, so Gen Z.
00:28:35.064 -->
00:28:38.605More than half of them are still not even renting.
00:28:38.605 -->
00:28:40.519They're living with their parents.
00:28:40.559 -->
00:28:42.044Yeah 50%.
00:28:43.019 -->
00:28:46.343Yeah, that surprises me in no way.
00:28:46.544 -->
00:28:48.316Yeah, absolutely so.
00:28:48.316 -->
00:28:49.119I do think that does.
00:28:49.119 -->
00:28:58.406It definitely affects the ability of people to really integrate with a smart home, because why would you put such a permanent investment into something you don't own?
00:28:58.406 -->
00:29:00.519Also, a lot of people don't have permission for that.
00:29:00.519 -->
00:29:03.006Is there something on my nose?
00:29:03.006 -->
00:29:05.839Because you keep like pointing to your nose with your pen?
00:29:05.839 -->
00:29:12.702Okay, I thought you were trying to send me a subliminal message of some kind still doing doing it.
00:29:12.702 -->
00:29:15.288Okay, here's a couple of interesting facts.
00:29:15.288 -->
00:29:21.255Okay, 97% of smart home owners are at least somewhat satisfied with their devices.
00:29:21.255 -->
00:29:32.961So, like, most people are enjoying the use, and 60% of Americans with smart home devices say it has had a positive impact on their lives, with convenience being the top benefit.
00:29:32.961 -->
00:29:36.239It has had a positive impact on their lives, with convenience being the top benefit.
00:29:36.239 -->
00:29:48.539So most people that, like bite the bullet and get smart home equipment are, like a huge majority, are very satisfied with it, and 78 percent of potential home buyers would pay extra for a home with pre-installed smart features.
00:29:48.559 -->
00:29:55.960So that's an interesting thing for, like, construction companies I would 100 pay extra for a smart home Like it's already done and set up.
00:29:55.960 -->
00:29:56.422Yeah, it's done.
00:29:56.714 -->
00:30:05.088Yeah, you just move in and then American smart home device owners spend about $1,100 on their smart tech gadgets.
00:30:05.088 -->
00:30:07.983I think that's annually.
00:30:07.983 -->
00:30:17.601So after buying the equipment like whether it's subscriptions or whether it's RMR or things like that it's a lot of money actually.
00:30:17.601 -->
00:30:20.403And then back to like wearables.
00:30:20.403 -->
00:30:26.046Okay, Over a billion people use smart wearables daily, with fitness trackers leading the pack.
00:30:26.046 -->
00:30:26.708So why do you think?
00:30:26.708 -->
00:30:34.627Well, first question Do you think things like Fitbits or Apple Watches motivate people to exercise more?
00:30:35.296 -->
00:30:38.184I had a Fitbit back when Fitbit was a thing.
00:30:38.555 -->
00:30:39.758And what happened to that Fitbit?
00:30:39.878 -->
00:30:40.901It's in a drawer somewhere.
00:30:41.663 -->
00:30:41.824No.
00:30:42.566 -->
00:30:43.106What happened to it?
00:30:43.736 -->
00:30:45.200You left it in the pocket of an airplane.
00:30:45.200 -->
00:30:46.625Did I, you did, is that?
00:30:46.644 -->
00:30:46.986what happened.
00:30:47.195 -->
00:30:48.354Yeah, I have a vivid memory of that.
00:30:48.474 -->
00:30:50.041It's in someone else's drawer somewhere.
00:30:50.394 -->
00:30:51.476Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:30:51.476 -->
00:30:52.457It's in someone else's drawer somewhere.
00:30:52.457 -->
00:30:53.136Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:30:53.136 -->
00:30:56.019It's in some cleaner's drawer, probably on their wrist actually.
00:30:56.019 -->
00:31:01.304Anyway, whoever got to go through that and find your stuff, they have it now.
00:31:01.304 -->
00:31:11.090But back to the question Do you feel like it motivates people to exercise more If they have something like that?
00:31:11.090 -->
00:31:11.892Did it motivate you?
00:31:15.414 -->
00:31:18.023No, but it did motivate me to wear it while I was exercising, just so that I could track it.
00:31:18.023 -->
00:31:22.759It's it's nice to be able to do that but it does motivate you enough to stand it did.
00:31:23.200 -->
00:31:25.724It did motivate me to stand, and here's.
00:31:25.724 -->
00:31:27.717Here's the thing that I'm big on is data.
00:31:27.717 -->
00:31:32.856So if you have data recorded data you can make decisions on data, you can understand things on data.
00:31:32.856 -->
00:31:36.902If you don't have data, you're kind of guesstimating on things.
00:31:36.902 -->
00:31:50.859It's so it's kind of like if you're trying to lose weight or you're tracking how much you're eating, how much more effective you know your weight loss goals are, if you are, actually you actually track what you eat and you actually track what you exercise, it's, you do a lot better job.
00:31:50.859 -->
00:32:06.324So smart technology helps you track and get data way easier and it's way more convenient, so that that's super, super dope yeah, I'll say our generation definitely like values, data and like incremental, like daily data.
00:32:06.345 -->
00:32:11.019It's not just like big things, like we just like to see the numbers on freaking everything.
00:32:11.019 -->
00:32:12.343So so it makes sense.
00:32:12.343 -->
00:32:12.884I would say.
00:32:12.884 -->
00:32:21.760For me it is motivating to move more, just because I'm like, probably because it's kind of like, if you're a checklist person or whatever, it's just like something to check off.
00:32:21.760 -->
00:32:22.303You know what I mean.
00:32:22.303 -->
00:32:30.037I know that my mom, when she first got a smartwatch, she was like constantly moving and like, oh, it's time for me to move, so go ahead and do that.
00:32:30.037 -->
00:32:37.390So I do wonder how the short-lived that is, like maybe I'm just in the honeymoon stage with the smartwatch.
00:32:37.855 -->
00:32:39.762Maybe have you paid with your watch yet.
00:32:40.234 -->
00:32:41.338Oh, so many times.
00:32:41.680 -->
00:32:42.983Really, that's my favorite.
00:32:43.084 -->
00:32:44.576Wow, I don't even have to pull out my phone.
00:32:44.576 -->
00:32:46.179Okay, so this is what I will say.
00:32:46.179 -->
00:32:51.445Is I just switched to using, like my phone's Apple wallet to paying for everything?
00:32:51.445 -->
00:32:57.064Probably four months ago I was using a card physically every time.
00:32:57.064 -->
00:33:03.103Now, and now that I realized how easy it is to do it with my watch, that's what I do every single time Now.
00:33:03.103 -->
00:33:05.500It's so nice I don't have to pull out my phone out of my pocket.
00:33:06.344 -->
00:33:07.980You know what's so funny is Conrad.
00:33:07.980 -->
00:33:16.983You know the technology the friend he keeps making fun of me because I I'm wearing the the watch and I still pulled out my card to pay the other day.
00:33:16.983 -->
00:33:20.856And he's like you, just, you just don't have a watch now, why don't you use your watch?
00:33:21.178 -->
00:33:35.546that was your moment of my smart mouse thing, and and then I had a phone call come in while we're together and he's like you could just answer on your phone, on your watch, and I was like I'm I'm not utilizing my technology.
00:33:35.926 -->
00:33:36.367You're not.
00:33:36.595 -->
00:33:39.384Because I'm still in the habit of doing the old way Doing the other stuff yeah.
00:33:39.384 -->
00:33:41.180It's that said, you just got to change the habit.
00:33:41.500 -->
00:33:44.175Yep, exactly All in all.
00:33:44.175 -->
00:33:45.557Well, let's talk.
00:33:45.557 -->
00:33:49.021I guess let's end with the ethics of smart home or the safety of it.
00:33:49.021 -->
00:33:55.651So a couple things is, the more I rely on these things, the more nervous I am to lose them.
00:33:55.651 -->
00:33:59.472I'm really nervous to lose my phone because my phone is freaking everything on it.
00:33:59.472 -->
00:34:03.346I'm really nervous to ever lose my watch because now apparently my watch has everything on it.
00:34:03.346 -->
00:34:09.938Obviously they have great safeguards in place for you to like shut those things down pretty easily just from like a laptop or whatever.
00:34:09.938 -->
00:34:17.538But still, you know, that kind of stresses me out yeah, so I've lost two phones, so one phone.
00:34:17.697 -->
00:34:25.641I left in a cab in miami and as soon as I realized I got home got my laptop, bricked it and then the other time I was mugged.
00:34:25.661 -->
00:34:30.494I feel like I didn't know this I'm sure you know this.
00:34:30.514 -->
00:34:38.481I was mugged at knife point and the sounds surprising yeah, he wanted my wallet and you know whatever else I had on me.
00:34:38.621 -->
00:34:57.483But in my wallet I had my I think it's like my green card or something on me at the time because I wasn't a citizen and I was like there's no ways I can give this guy my green card because I don't you need it, yeah so I basically just threw my phone at him, like you know, not like, like you know, to attack him, but I basically just threw my phone at him like you know, not like you know to attack him, but like I just threw it at him and that was, you know, the end of it and he ran off.
00:34:57.483 -->
00:35:00.242Anyways, same thing.
00:35:00.242 -->
00:35:06.840I went home and at the time I could write a message on the front of my phone so they couldn't turn it on and do anything, but just would have this message.
00:35:07.815 -->
00:35:07.916And.
00:35:08.356 -->
00:35:13.226I just told him, like you know something anyways what did you tell him?
00:35:13.226 -->
00:35:14.389The end.
00:35:14.610 -->
00:35:15.976No, go ahead and tell us what you told him.
00:35:15.976 -->
00:35:17.762How'd you feel about it to that guy?
00:35:17.762 -->
00:35:21.916I was not very happy no, was it a long message or a very short one?
00:35:21.916 -->
00:35:24.641Very short okay, can imagine.
00:35:24.641 -->
00:35:25.202Thank you.
00:35:25.202 -->
00:35:31.740I have had my phone lost a couple times, but I've always been in utah when I've lost it, so I've gotten it right back.
00:35:31.740 -->
00:35:33.465I've just gone back to the restaurant or something.
00:35:33.465 -->
00:35:39.813That's one of the best parts about Utah, but it was stolen out of my bag in Belgium when I was living there.
00:35:39.952 -->
00:35:40.215Oh yeah.
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00:35:46.264That sucked because that was our one way to communicate and we were dating continents apart.
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00:35:48.255So that was stressful.
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00:36:06.226I think I shut it down as well and had to wait like a week for my mom to ship me another one yeah, but you know I'm at this point I'm trying to rely on actually technology less so it's like I'm off of social media trying to I think I sent you a video on this the other day.
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00:36:17.340Basically how, like, one of the best things that we can do is try be a bit more attached physically to things around us, like go outside, go touch grass, go, you know, disconnect from the internet.
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00:36:23.217So I'm not so philosophical and boring, so I'm not afraid to lose the stuff.
00:36:23.257 -->
00:36:23.436You know.
00:36:23.456 -->
00:36:32.295It's actually nice to you, know well I would say I'm not afraid to like lose it, in that like, oh, if I all of a sudden didn't have it I would be afraid to function.
00:36:32.295 -->
00:36:37.666It's that I'm afraid for someone else to have it and have access to all my stuff.
00:36:37.726 -->
00:36:38.286Does that make sense?
00:36:38.286 -->
00:36:39.208It makes so much sense, yeah.
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00:36:47.335And a lot of people stress about that, like Amazon's indoor cameras and all their stuff, like people hacking in and hacking into their baby monitors and stuff.
00:36:47.335 -->
00:36:58.451And this is why I would say also as part of what I've learned being in the smart home industry is pick a company that uses the right level of encryption on your stuff and you should be fine.
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00:37:07.447Obviously, anyone can hack into anything if they really want to, but if you have the right levels of encryption, people's motivation to target you as opposed to someone else.
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00:37:09.230Without that, it's really low.
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00:37:11.820That's what I'd recommend as well.
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00:37:14.632It's really low, so that's what I recommend as well.
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00:37:26.742So I think there are some security concerns with smart home equipment, but I do think that all the companies and all the people in the industry are very much thinking about that and trying to mitigate any risks, and I think, for the most part, they do a good job.
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00:37:29.081So what do you think?
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00:37:31.561Pro smart stuff or not so much?
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00:37:33.760Yeah, I'm pro smart stuff.
00:37:34.735 -->
00:37:38.802You said that with so much disdain.
00:37:42.668 -->
00:37:42.869Yeah.
00:37:44.076 -->
00:37:46.003You don't want to be pro smart stuff, but you are.
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00:37:50.646I don't want to be pro smart stuff and I'd love it if we all just kind of chilled out.
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00:37:55.286But where the world's going, it's good to be smart stuff.
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00:37:57.641Yep, just our smart calendar alone.
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00:37:59.639No, there's no excuse.
00:37:59.639 -->
00:38:01.144The calendar's right there.
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00:38:03.563I would like a life where we don't need a calendar.
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00:38:04.847That sounds great.
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00:38:08.023You've married the wrong person, Sam.
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00:38:09.902I'm gonna go farm for my food.
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