Afternoons with Leith Forrest - 9 July 2025

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Kendall. Good afternoon everyone, welcome along to the show. Happy Wednesday to you. It is the ninth day of July, so dreary old Wednesday afternoon, or as we like to call it in the Southeast. It's a typical day from March until October. Vigorous cold front making its way across the state. Thunderstorms, heavy rain, wild wind, fog, potential hail. You can always let us know at any time what is happening where you are A double two three, double O, double O, text or email. All I hope is that this drenching rain pounds the state where it's needed the most, hopefully in the right spot. If you are on the roads, take easy, fog, poor visibility we know in the hills and the bottom of the Southeast and freeway too, so nice and easy on the roads, have your radio on and just take it slow. We're not in a hurry. Love you to join us at any stage. A double two three, double O, double oh is my number to join in the conversation. A great show for you. On the way today you'll hear an amazing story about the discovery of the oldest Christian hymn ever recorded. A song that is two thousand years of age. We will be joined in the studio by the man who found it. A little later on this afternoon, Sala has been launched the South Australian Living Arts Festival. We'll let you know all about that. There's a billboard on Port Road that has been there for fifteen years that now after fifteen years, one person has complained saying it's offensive. Well it has been found inoffensive. So we'll speak to the owner of that particular billboard and find out what all the kerfuffle is about. Will talk real estate with Tube and two. Ridgard Pasco is here talking all things tech for a bit of fun. Today. Richard asked me to ask you what is the oldest piece of technology that you own. He's going to bring in I believe either the very first iPhone or the very first iPad that he has. I had a look around the house today. Got a couple of old walkman's and there's a discman, a little boombox. What have you got technology wise still in your house? I did have a reel to reel when I first started in radio at fourteen or fifteen that Mum and dad bought me secondhand so I could learn how to cut and splice tape because I thought that was the new way of radio. So I want you to have a look around for me after three o'clock when riches here on the live stream for complete care, let us know about the oldest piece of technology that you have. And I almost tease the last bit. We've got a musical treat for you today because led Zeppelin, the music of led Zeppelin will be here, not the band themselves, but the concert coming to Adelaide doing the music of physical graffiti, honey. So it is fifty years of physical graffiti. So part of the Adelais Guitar Festival, we will have a riffoff later in the show. A couple of the great guitarists who are here part of the festival will be playing some led Zeppelin for us on the show. So you might want to call in with a request or two. There As always though, you're welcome to join us eight double two to three double O double O. You can email on air at five double A dot com dot au or send me a text as Stue Lloyd has done, one of the great Southeast footballers saying this is a typical Southeast footballing day. It is indeed good wet weather footy today. We love it, so hopefully your rain gages are filling up zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. If you'd like to join us on the text message. First, I want to talk to you about Beef Wellington the dish, and I've got an ethical dilemma for you. So we know what's happened with her Pattison over the last few months, and of course the verdict coming down earlier this week. So as you know, on a Friday, Chris Jarmer comes in to cook a meal for us. We put up the recipe online, we show it on the live stream. It's always a great bit of fun on a Friday afternoons. Producer Sam Datto said to me, because of the new story of the week, do you think Chris should cook beef Wellington with mushrooms? And I said to Sam straight away, no, I think that's insensitive and I think it's inappropriate. But it's interesting because we polled people around the office and there are some who are thinking, no, it's not the dish's fault that happened, it's Aaron Patterson's fault. We shouldn't be pushing the dish into this kind of controversy, So I'd love to get your thoughts on that, whether you think it would be insensitive for Chris to cook beef Wellington this Friday, a double two to three, double O, double O. One of our workers, Monika said to me, it's the kind of thing that will get us canceled, and I tend to agree. I think it's pretty inappropriate. It's insensitive to three people who lost their lives. But I am wondering more broadly, whether beef Wellington itself will become an extinct meal, one of those meals that was popular but becomes no more. So you might know the story of this with Aaron Patterson case that the recipe tin eats cook Nagi Mahashi. Now, she has unfortunately been dragged into this story because it was her beef Wellington recipe that was sort of entangled in this entire murder case. So the convicted murderer told the court during this trial that she made multiple changes to Nagi's recipe when she was preparing the fatal lunch more than two years ago. Nagi's had to go on to social media now to request the journalists of Australia stop calling her, Stop Elan Marling, stop texting, stop sending direct messages about the Aaron Patterson case just because it was her dish. So let's talk about that this afternoon. A. Do you eat beef Wellington? B? Would you eat it? Now? Do you think it's a dish that will go by the wayside because it will become somewhat extinct because it now has this unfortunate moniker of being the meal in a triple murder case. I think now that there is a no pun intended. Now there's a bad taste to the meal, and I don't think a lot of people would buy it. I don't think a lot of people would want to cook it. I'll be interested to know where you fit on this a double two to three doublow, whether you agree or disagree. So Simon Wilkinson is a longtime food critic at The Advertiser. You can also read his food reviews every weekend. In SA Weekend, he joins us this afternoon, Simon, thanks for your time. Hi, how are you doing? I'm well. Do you think there is any chance that beef Wellington will have kind of a stain on it now and maybe not become a popular dish anymore.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think probably its popularity has certainly waned a lot as it was become a bit more of a nostalgia piece.
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Speaker 3: Anyway.
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Speaker 2: As fantastic as is, it's quite a complicated dish for kitchens to put together to water, and really on the restaurant front, at least, it wasn't seen very often. Maybe in it I think I remember one in a restaurant there was more tuned to that sort of recreating the classics, but as far as a widespread restaurant dish, it hasn't really been there for a little while. That said, there is a big trend at the moment towards comfort and nostalgia kind of food, so maybe it might have been looking at making me a comeback, but this would certainly set it back. I can't imagine people really ordering it at the moment, not because they're worried about their health or their safety, but more because just out of respect for the you know what has happened?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. How many years have you been a food critic? Sigmon?
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Speaker 2: I began thirty odd years ago, I reckon I worked out the other day, maybe a bit more.
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Speaker 1: How many beep are lit, Well, how many beef wellingtons have you had in thirty years?
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Speaker 2: I'm estimating two, right to be honest, and possibly because you know they may have been there and I haven't ordered them. I certainly remember Bethany Finn having one, and I'll forget the name of the restaurant downstairs in the hotel restaurant.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, not many, No, not many. But I'm seeing this story with Nagy, and all of a sudden, here she is because her recipe book just happened to be used by Aaron Patterson for this particular dish. All of a sudden, she's been entangled in this whole triple murder situation too. She's got journalists reaching out for her. She had to put out a release to basically say, please stop messaging, please stop emailing, don't send me any more dms. I have no part of this situation.
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Speaker 2: And it's very unfair for her to be involved in that way. And her recipes, as anybody who cooks at all will probably attest, she's prolific.
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Speaker 1: She has hundreds and hundred of recipes.
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Speaker 2: If you go online and search for recipes, its normally her recipe that comes up first. Of recipe ten eats and best of all, they work, and the ones I've used, and I use them at home quite a bit, they will work. And for her to be, you know, just by chance involved in this is just unfair on her. Hopefully people can be sensible about it and this will just fade pretty quickly and then she can continue on as she has, which is a great help to the home cooks around the country and beyond this country.
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Speaker 1: So and it's interesting too hearing the story that there are others in the industry, others in the food industry now who are nervous or reluctant. I guess to publish and promote I did.
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Speaker 2: I did read a story this morning that a column written by the food there are at the Age and the Sidney Morning Herald. I think she sees the recipe at it and there was a discussion around when's the right time to start putting mushroom recipes back? And I didn't realize they went publishing mushroom recipes. I guess that, particularly in Melbourne, there would maybe be a bit more sensitivity around that, but that seemed a surprising thing to me. What happened, you know, is tragic, terrible, and now the court process has played out. But mushrooms are a great food source and hopefully everybody can be back having them soon. Even if it's not. I think there are certainly dangers around anybody who's going out and picking mushrooms themselves. They really need to know what they're doing it. That can be a really dangerous thing. But the mushrooms that are available in the markets or the supermarkets are a great food source and need to be thought of as such.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the article myself that said why Good Food hasn't published a mushroom recipe in months? It's in poor taste to be suggesting ways to make mushrooms more appealing. So it's interesting it's doing that. So do you think and you would have seen many food simon go by the wayside, many food dishes become extinct over the years because of the sensitivities. Do you think that there might be a period in Australian restaurants South Australian restaurants and maybe the beef Wellington is something that's not offered for a while.
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Speaker 2: I've got to be honest. I think if you did a menu search, even say two years ago or something before this, happened. You would struggle to find a beef Wellington anywhere. Sure, it's not something that it would be part of that nostalgia dining wave. It does fit in a little bit alongside the bread and button puddings that are really back in another moment, and sticky date puddings and things like that. Yes, the people love and that sort of sits in that genre and this probably removes it from being included with that at the moment. But yeah, it wasn't. It was something that wasn't seen very much, and partly because to get it to order and to get the I feel it perfectly rare and everything cooked beautifully to water. That's a very demanding on a busy kitchen. Yeah, so it's not an easy thing to do.
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to appreciate your time this afternoon. Thanks so much, No problems at all, Thank you very much. Simon Wilkinson the food editor for The Advertiser. Long time you can see his work on the weekends. Eight double two three, double o, double o text or email. Where do you sit? Do you see the beef Wellington becoming an extinct meal? Would you eat it? Would you cook it? Is it insensitive? If Chris Jarmer was to cook it this Friday. It just feels too soon to me. We just got the verdict this week three people died. I can see this meal like so many others going by the wayside. I may be in the wrong eight double two three double o double. Oh, give me a thought. It's Tony O'Connor at the Adelaide Central Market. He's the heart and soul there at O'Connor meets. He would know a thing or two about these nostalgic type meals. Tony. Do you still sell beef Wellington and people still buying it late?
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Speaker 4: Yes, so we do sell a lot of filet yeah, and through the drought and things like that. It's one of our cheaper cuts we can get. As things get more expensive, there's top end cuts the filets and the Scotch films and rebbis go up a bit, but we've been able to snake some really good prices.
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Speaker 5: But yeah, we will be.
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Speaker 4: Selling a lot of filets, not necessarily for filminions, but we do have people ask us to get at trim it up ready for making beef Wennington's and filiminions and things like that.
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Speaker 6: Yes, is the.
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Speaker 1: Beef Wellington easy to make.
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Speaker 4: It's easy for a butcher to prepare of filets.
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Speaker 5: So you take the.
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Speaker 4: Silver off the top and turn the towel under and trust it so it's a nice even cut of meat. Then so then when you seal it off the ceiling is a trick to seal it off really nice before you put your pad and you and your pastry on, because you've don't one any blood coming through your paste. So ceialing the meat is the best. But most butchers can trim those filets up and get them nice, trust nice and neatly, so you can cook it nice and evening. It doesn't take long, but it is a nice meal done properly. Years do you.
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Speaker 1: You would have seen trends change in food over the years, have you when when you speak to customers, are you finding that it's a particular meal that hasn't been as popular as it once was?
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Speaker 7: Very much?
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Speaker 4: So we used to make beef Wellington's, have them in the shop long ones, and we used to do a little individual beef Wellingtons, and I must say over the years we don't do it as much now. It's not a call for it. And dinner party people asked us to trust be for a Wellington yet I haven't had any lately, tell the truth, But yeah, I'm sure it still goes on done properly, done asked. It's a lovely cut. It's a lovely meal to do. And just as JOm just saying, it is a piece of meat which is a lovely cut. To do it in a restaurant and things like that, they do have to prep them up well in advance of our time consuming and to get them done properly. But it is a lovely meal.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Tony, you've got a good radar on things. You're a good guy. Is it insensitive we were to make beef Wellington on the Friday Cooking segment.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's hard. You know, people have lost their lives. It's not nice.
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't do anything.
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Speaker 4: No, I agree, And.
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Speaker 1: Even the fact that you pause is the reason for me to say, this is why we need to think about this. And I'm going to get to some text in a minute where people are saying that we're making them mountain out of a molehill. But yeah, I feel sorry for people that love beef Wellington. It just it seems like an unusual I don't know, if you heard the chat with Simon we had, there are many people in the state who are just not making mushroom dishes or beef wellington at all at the moment.
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Speaker 4: It's not nice.
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Speaker 7: And we're in the market here.
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Speaker 4: We have a dedicated mushroom shop marker the Mushroom Man. It just has mushrooms and sure certainly things just does hit them. And again it's not nice. People have lost their lives and we don't like that at all. It's very unfortunate. It's not nice. And then the other side of it is we have do have shops around Australia from Ojed and and said things these are beefs, these are good to take.
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Speaker 5: And stuff like that.
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Speaker 4: Yes, a bit too early for.
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Speaker 1: Me, me too. Luckily there's so much other great meat tony that we can get quickly. What should be before we go.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, you know, get some fellomions or do some nice slow cooking this weathers and broco, lamb shanks, bacon bones, all that sort of thing. Nice. Yes, food should be to cheer people up and keep it. This so nice to work in the market with all this food and food is for cheering people up, making them sitting around the table and having a good time.
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Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, it's just it's too soon. Maybe have it down the track, I think, But the week of the actual vertic coming down just feels a bit uncomfortable for me.
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Speaker 4: I think twenty other time to do it, isn't it?
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Speaker 1: Good on your Tony? Thank you for that? See so thank you for that. Tony O'Connell, Hart and soul of the Adelaide Central Market. O'Connell meets there on the groat street side. All right, double two three double O, double A. This is where you get to have your opinion. Are you of the belief like Tony and I that it's a bit too soon? You think we're being silly. It's just a meal. It has no association with anyone else other than Aaron Patterson. The person is evil, not the meal is evil. A double two three double O double Oh? Is it insensitive? Would we make media watch if Chris Jarmer on Foody Friday was to cook beef Wellington with I think we would. It's just it doesn't sit well with me. A double two three double O, double O Text or email your thoughts on that?
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Speaker 1: Twenty six minutes after one. We're speaking beef Wellington A double two three double O double. A Cole is in Port Adelaide. Welcome Colin Makday Cole. What do you think now?
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Speaker 7: I am a chef and in my history and researching recipes, I cancross a recipe from Gordon Ramsey's book for a salmon Wellington. Instead of the mushrooms, he used baby spinach that was wilted and frames from all the liquid. You can still celebrate the Wellington. It doesn't have to be beef, right.
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Speaker 1: So you can still have the meal that you like, but it doesn't have the same connotation with this particular case.
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Speaker 7: It is a salmon Wellington.
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Speaker 1: Yes, beef out salmon in yes? Right? Do you think it would be insensitive call if you were to cook beef Wellington this weekend or this Friday?
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Speaker 9: Oh?
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Speaker 7: I think you can still celebrate the Wellington, but just.
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Speaker 1: Change it, change it up, all right? Good only Colin? Thank you for that. I appreciate the call. Sue in West Beach, Sue thoughts on the beef Wellington.
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Speaker 10: Now I'm allowed to make a comment on time now the court of course, this is my theory, right, Now, this is an intelligent woman. She had a very good job, she got two kids, got everything to lose, which at the moment she stands to do. So this is what I think. This is my opinion. I think they should look at this. She should be maybe done for manslaughter, because this is what I believe. I think. I was talking to a friend of mine whose wife used to punish him when he did these do you know those little things that you men do that really aggravate women. She'd hide his keys, and she'd hide this truth brush, and she hides the odor, and so it went on. I don't think she meant to kill these people. I think she meant because she remembers she mixed the mushrooms with mushrooms from the from a supermarket, so she had mishad that she didn't want the flavor to show. And I think she just wanted to make them sick, right, and she intended for them to die. And I think man's daughter is probably ten years I don't think, because look, she's an intelligent woman. If you're going to kill somebody, I mean, let's say me I wanted to kill someone, I would do it maybe in the middle of the night. If I had a gun or a knife, I'd get in there, do it and I'd be gone. I wouldn't look out. It was something, But he's so obviously in my premises, and I believe she was feeling isolated there. She's fallen out with major members of that area because they all go to that little church, and she wanted to give them a little because remember, her husband was oven sick, but he never died, so she had an't feeling that she had it all under control and she could just make people sick. She I don't think she honestly intended to kill them. I think it was as much of a shock for her as it was for you and me. And no, I don't eat beef Wellington, thank you very much, not today.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sue, appreciate it. Don't think too much about how you would kill people. But I understand your point. So you're saying they tried to make she tried to make them sick, but it went too far. Well, I guess the courts might have took that into consideration, but she is appealing, so we'll wait and see how that all lands. Thank you, Sue for that. Peter says, would people harass Gordon Ramsey if it was his recipe, I think they would to be honest, Peter, they're doing it to Nagi. She has no connection to this story other than it was her recipe book that was in the house and her particular menu or recipe that they used. Porld. Nagi has been dragged into this story that she wants nothing to do with. Helen says, I cannot look at mushrooms the same way by the same token. There is nothing wrong with cooking beef wellington, somebody said, Leith ffs. Kids of today know what that means. The beef Wellington has been around for many, many years. It's just about luck that Patterson used the poisonous mushrooms in that particular recipe. She could have put them in spaghetti bolonnaise. Don't give her anyone any more thoughts. I wouldn't have thought it. David said, this is just typical Australian media dishing up more hysteria as per usual. David, the chef who wrote the book has been dragged into this story. I think it's a legitimate conversation to have, whether you think or not that this particular meal has been stained by this triple murder court case. Julie says, as a vegetarian, the version she makes delicious or the nonsense won't make her stop making it with store bought mushrooms. Sue says she's never made beef Wellington, but she loves to cook and this has given her the push to make it. Nagi's her cooking guru, as you will absolutely try her recipe. David said, beef Wellington and mushrooms will not fade into obscurity because of Erin's evil deeds. It's just mass simpleton thinking. It's not any airing, any disrespect to the three people that died as a result. If you did it on Friday. Ah, it doesn't sit well with me, thank you, though I appreciate the text. Keep them coming. Eight double two three double O double O on air at five double A dot com. We can call a zero double four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. We'll get to more of those, but next. The South Australian Living Arts Festival launched today. We'll tell you all about it.
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Speaker 1: Twenty four minutes to two on this Wednesday afternoon. Your calls are welcome at any time. Eight double two three, double o double. Oh. Exciting day though, because the Sala Festival for twenty twenty five the program has been unveil. We are celebrating community and creativity right across this amazing state of ours. The CEO of Sala, Bridget Alfred, is here along with artist Nicole Black Ladies. Lovely to see you both. Welcome, Thank you for coming.
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Speaker 11: In, Thanks Lee, thanks for having us.
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Speaker 1: Before we talk about art, Bridget, I'll start with you. Controversial one first be for Wellington? Yes or no? On Friday show? Should we make it? Or is it too soon?
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Speaker 11: I think it probably ought to be reclaimed? I think so, Yeah, brought back into the light.
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Speaker 1: Okay a week's Nicole, are you with me? What do you think?
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Speaker 10: Are you?
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Speaker 1: Are you thinking it's a little too soon?
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Speaker 12: Maybe a little bit too soon. I've lost my craving for it, so really okay.
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Speaker 1: If you want to just come into your microphone a little closer so we can hear you, that'd be great. Thank you, Bridget. It's exciting. It's a big day for you. We look forward to this day each and every year, and we have been looking forward to this day for how many years?
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Speaker 11: Now twenty eight?
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Speaker 1: This is twenty eight, twenty eight. Yes, yeah, how do we rate as a state of artists? Like? It just keeps growing and getting bigger and bigger each year, don't you think, I.
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Speaker 11: Think, well, I mean this is the largest open access festival I think in the world, most definitely in the Southern Hemisphere, and we would have to be up there in terms of per capita withoutists in South Australia.
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Speaker 1: We always joke it's South Australian living arts. So as long as you're living and you're an artist, you're in right, But that's kind of the prerequisite and you can go. But I love what you do from the city to the country, to the regional areas. People who are great artists, and we'll speak to a great artist in Nicolon a second. But other people who just pot around the house and might want to show their work, this is for you.
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Speaker 11: Well, that's right, because visual art is one of the most I mean, all art is and should be accessible, but I think visual art is particular especial in that way because all you need to do is pick up a pencil that you don't need to have a lot of equipment, you don't need to have a lot of materials, you just need to start doing something, and then you start and then there's a great long trajectory and there's a whole range of things that you could go to and build from there. But you can start really easily, and Sala is really welcoming of people who have just begun.
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Speaker 1: So we can pick up the program now, can't we It's online, but it's also available everywhere.
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Speaker 11: Physical program, which is beautiful. I haven't got you in here for you is going to be available in food Land stores from June July the nineteenth, so a couple of weeks, but it's online from today.
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Speaker 1: We always talk about stats. Ten thousand plus artists involved.
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Speaker 11: And a half thousand this year.
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Speaker 1: Over seven hundred exhibitions that people can do. So again, you can do it in your own area you have sort of suburban area, or if you have someone that gets out and about, just go and check it out.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. And we put together tours for people. So we've got Nicole who's here in the studio with us. Is part of are the Adelaide Hills to Kunda Lights tour, which will be on July the ninth. Then you jump on a bus go up through the hills, to have lunch on Deane, which is where Nicole's exhibition is going to be. And then and Nicole is actually going to be doing a demonstration on my art us talk Fantastic, and then they'll be popping into other exhibitions in the Hills on their way to the opening event at Karunja Lights. And then later in the month we'll have one going up to Barossa and Light Regions. And we have a whole variety of other tours that will be accessible for people metropolitan based, and we put together do it yourself tours. If people can take out a day or a weekend and go to the Unawara, you.
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Speaker 1: Can just emerge the trail. Nicole, let's talk about you. When did you start? When did you realize you had talent first?
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Speaker 8: Or form?
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Speaker 1: Have you been an artist your whole life?
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Speaker 9: For you that kid at school, it was just I was absolutely that kid at school and really didn't stop. So went and studied visual arts after high school, moved to Melbourne, temporarily did graphic design over there, but then ended up coming back to Adelaide a few years later and just continuing with my paintings. So it's been a kind of a whole lifetime of making art, which is great nature.
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Speaker 1: Or nurture for it? Like you, is it either a family trait or you did you just we're a gifted one in the family because we have no talent in our family.
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Speaker 9: I tend to believe that it's the marks that you make on the page or the brushstrokes that over time accumulate towards something. And I definitely think it was a combination of nature and nurture because my parents do have that creative bone in them. So yeah, I mean, it's just one of these things. I just was really drawn to it as a kid and just was encouraged and kept doing it. So I'm very lucky in that regard.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I mentioned it to you, Bridget last time, and Nicole, you can jump on this. But when we talk about art, I've always had this, you know, when people say what is art? What do you think art is? I've always had this personal thought that art is something that I cannot do. So I look at your work, for example, I see your paintings on your mirror or something, there is no way that I can do that that is art. If I see a canvas with a blue line down the middle. I go, oh, I'm not die pretty sure I could do that, but I wonder where your talent comes from in that regard. So it's the ten thousand hours, it's the Malcolm Gladwell outlies that you would just do it over and over, and now you get to see your art, which as a kid was on a page or a canvas. Now you're doing it on buildings, which is extraordinary.
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Speaker 9: It's exciting and I think sometimes I'd like to be able to go back in time and speak to my younger self and go, this is what you're going to do in a few years times, and I think that'd be really exciting. But yeah, it's pretty cool to think of it in that way.
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Speaker 1: Is it the best way to showcase you're right? Do you like a musician who has an audience, you would be the same when people When SALA comes around, people get to see your work and speak to you about.
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Speaker 9: It's one way, and there's also you know, I do teaching as well, and you know, doing exhibitions and being involved with SALA is really important. I think just supporting other artists whenever I can. So it's a combination of different things that you are adding to that community and that helps to kind of get your work out there.
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Speaker 1: Health benefit being an artist, do you think, like mental health and everything else, and we'll go with it. I agree, yeah, definitely because you would see that too, Like in your Sala travels. You know people at nursing homes and we have a dear listener Bessie who who is one of our regulars at night, who's amazing you know, Sala artist up there in Milpara in Australia, one of the nursing homes that all these nursing homes have these art rooms where people go in and just potter away and people may not ever see it unless there is an avenue or an exhibition like Sala to do that.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. I think it's I like to say, well known in certain circles, but it's becoming more well known about the benefits health benefits of practicing a art form and again video it's so easy to do in terms of mental health, alleviating stress and anxiety. So there's all of those benefits as well as the lovely thing about producing something that you enjoy, yes, and the other people.
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Speaker 1: The joy that comes with it. How do you do the murals. You probably get to ask this all the time. I'm amazed that I don't know the word I'm looking for. But the sizing, you know, because sometimes you look at these things. Are you doing it with a projector or you're penciling it out first? Are you have you broken it down? Is it a mathematical equation for you? Going right? We need to put this gum nut and these leads in this square of the wall. They come apart.
00:30:13
Speaker 9: There's a few different methods that are used, and you know, each artist is going to have their way of doing it, and it also depends on where the wall is situated and the proximity to the wall that you can get. But you know, using a projector, I use I'll create like a digital design. I'll often photograph the wall and then work digitally to draw out the design, and then we can use what's called like a doodle grid. So you may have seen, if you've ever seen a mural work in progress, some scribble like detailing put on the wall first, and that's just to help line up the design digitally and superimposing it on to what you're doing on the walls. So that's a really accurate way of doing it, but it always seems to scare people when they start to see all the scribbles go up on the wall first.
00:30:56
Speaker 1: But it's become a great feature. Do you not think absolutely of art? And in this I think Adelaide's getting better. But you walk around little alleyways inside and you'll just find I mean, if you go to in Prospect Road for example, there's some beautiful artwork there all through the city, like little bits and pieces, some visual, some not so visual. Yes, I think it's a great feature of our city.
00:31:15
Speaker 11: Yeah, and it is growing and we are getting more and the various councils are becoming more sportive, so the Port Adelaide City West Torrens are all sort of building their mural catalogs.
00:31:29
Speaker 8: If you like.
00:31:29
Speaker 11: But City of Adelaide puts a fabulous amount of support around artists and there is growing about. Nicole actually takes our street art walking tours, yes I know, and they are very popular.
00:31:42
Speaker 1: So whereabouts do we walk on your tours?
00:31:44
Speaker 9: So last year when I run it, I did sort of Hinley Street West CBD because it's a really good collection of pretty important work around that area and it seemed to be quite condensed and at the time or around that time, I had a studio just of Hineley Streets, so it felt kind of, you know, close to home, and I think I might do something similar for this year because it was quite popular.
00:32:07
Speaker 12: So yeah, that's probably where we'll had this year.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: To this is an interest my daughter and I have. We will just get a day and we'll just go for a walk randomly anywhere through So that area that you're talking, I know a few of those, because I'll be honest, I don't go down that side of Hinley Street where the university is a lot, so you don't know a lot of that artwork that's down those little alleyways. Now everyone sees the sea of mural on the corner of Heinley and Morphitz Street, but there's some little great ones near the jam factory there of the prancing pony and other kind. Then there's a huge one on the other side, on the city side, I guess of Morphittt Street. But that's the thing. You can get lost in your own city and just walk around and find these little bits of artwork everywhere you can.
00:32:45
Speaker 11: Had My brother was in Berlin recently and excitedly sending me pictures you know photos of the murals in Berlin, and I said to him, do you have any idea about the murals that we have, because they are and they're really really good.
00:33:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you know? The only criticism I have is that I don't know if there's enough present day people on murals, Like there's one down in Port Adelaide of Travis boke on the Heart's Meal and the old Hearts Meal there, which is great. But and again different artists. So your specialty of art is what nature.
00:33:18
Speaker 9: Slash more nature inspired botanical and you know, sort of hints of landscape and a bit of abstraction as well.
00:33:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you've got like Chris Charmer who will or will not cook the beef Ellington on Friday. We'll find out. But where Jalmer's kitchen is there Aboden, You've got these huge ones on the side of the building there as you're going up towards North Adelaide, So you have all these differ Yeah, the bumblebees, and then I think there's like a communist kind of lady. I'm not sure. And then there's different patterns, which again is the beauty of art that you have that conversation about what does it mean? What is it about?
00:33:50
Speaker 3: So?
00:33:50
Speaker 11: And it can be something different for everyone.
00:33:52
Speaker 1: And you're getting active if you walk around and you get to see no, that's excellent. So highlights that we should be aware of apart from getting online and when theses are out in a couple of weeks, what's a couple of things that we should be looking out for.
00:34:03
Speaker 11: You think it's really hard to pick. So I think people need to jump online and have a look at the events and book the tickets to the bus tours, to the walking tours. There are some there's a street art tour, it's a contemporary tour. We've got a tool for Persian speakers. And there's a tour around responding to architecture which will be really interesting. There are some fabulous exhibitions at the Sala Hub. We've got our own exhibition which is a sort of we're calling it a roving nature, a roving exhibition because it's around the building. Hillsmith Art Gallery have an exhibition there with Hannaford and Allison Mitchell. We've got it Takes two that be running at the Sala Hub, which is a really fun event. Dan Whitti, who is an artist, will be taking that and you bring along your best friend or someone who you trust. You'll be doing some yeah, quite some drawing exercises that you need to like the person that you're doing it with. You mean, potentially blindfolding, touching places, a lot of fun. So there are those events that people should jump on. We've got a couple of forums. Sue Kneebone who is our feature writist this year. She's been described as Australian Goth in terms of her artwork, so she will have a forum at Central Schools talking about her book that's been released, and her exhibition was Central Galleries. And there's going to be a really large projection for the first time on King William Road featuring some of her work as well, which is really exciting.
00:35:44
Speaker 1: I love a projection.
00:35:45
Speaker 11: We love a projection.
00:35:46
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's all part of Salah. Now we should say it starts on the first of August, doesn't it runs the entire month of August.
00:35:52
Speaker 11: It officially starts on the first of August and runs the entire of August. But exhibitions are starting to open now excellent, so we do. We are seeing more of a straddle effect if you like, and you really only need to have a foot in August to be part of Sala Festival. So there's activity starting now and it'll be going through term sort of mid September.
00:36:12
Speaker 1: Would you recommend for people that love art but also I want to tap into those people who maybe don't or not necessarily don't love art, but maybe don't experience enough of it as they should.
00:36:21
Speaker 11: And that's a nice thing about Sara because of the immense number of exhibitions and the flexibility with venues is that they are you'll find exhibitions in unexpected places, so they're in your corner cafe or your post office.
00:36:36
Speaker 1: Or hospital schools.
00:36:39
Speaker 11: Yeah, so they It really is an immersion month if you like, it'd be hard to get away from it.
00:36:46
Speaker 1: Can't wait. Well, it's great. It beautifies the city, it gets people talking, and it's a good thing for that. Nicole. We can find out more about you at Nicole black dot com dot au.
00:36:55
Speaker 9: Thank you.
00:36:55
Speaker 1: Yes, Where can we see your murals? Give us the addresses? What's the most well known address for your mural?
00:37:00
Speaker 9: Well, probably the most prominent and closest to where we are now is on Curry Street. Just it's quite a big water bird. Yes, sort of off top of Mole and across from Lee Street. I think that's probably one of the most prominent ones and one will probably include in the Street Art Tour two.
00:37:17
Speaker 1: So that's got to be fun walking on the tour and going what do you think of this one? That's mine? I did that. How long to take to do a mirror? Is it a long process?
00:37:25
Speaker 9: A couple of weeks, So it depends really on the scale, the size of the wall or the detail. There's a few different factors like that that do impact it. Weather as well.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: So yeah, and your exhibition is called Wanderings, yes, right, and we can see that where.
00:37:37
Speaker 12: On Dean on Dean, Yeah, which is really exciting.
00:37:41
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:37:41
Speaker 9: So that's just a collection of sort of abstracted landscape paintings I've been working on, working from photographs, and a lot of them are actually inspired by the botanical gardens. Matt Lofty Botanic Gardens.
00:37:53
Speaker 11: Yeah.
00:37:53
Speaker 1: Well, find as many blank walls as you can and please just beautify them for all of us the city and then just you know, say hey, I spoke to Bridget at Sala and she said, I could do this. Lovely to see you boy, thank you for coming in Salo website best to get the information.
00:38:07
Speaker 11: People can yeah jump on their Sala Festival dot com.
00:38:10
Speaker 1: Bridget or Alfred the Sala CEO and Nicole Black one of the artists that you can enjoy as part of the Sala Festival. If you are South Australian, if you are living, if you're an artist, you're in Salo. It's as simple as that. Go and enjoy it. The great art through the month of August. However, as Nicole Bridget mentioned, it is available right now. Thanks so much for coming in.
00:38:28
Speaker 8: Thank you five double a Afternoons with Lead Forest.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: Zero el be four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five is the text line if you want to send me a text. Michelle said, I don't eat mushrooms anymore because they make me feel sick. Smell of the me and cook puts me off. I was able to eat them when I was younger, but not now. And Janet says she agrees with Sue. If she intended it would have been obvious from the meal. Don't think she would be that stupid Aaron Patterson. She just wanted to make them sick. She thinks it's a ghoulish witch hunt all round. Thank you for the text sire Edible four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Unusual story we saw online just before we were coming on air. We thought we'd have a quick chat to Gary about this. A cheeky Port Road billboard that you may or may not have seen over the last fifteen years is now allowed to stay up after an advertising watchdog dismissed a complaint about it. One single complaint. The billboard on Port Road says the best head jobs in town. It's Beverly based, Adelaide's cylinder head and just head's performance. It's innuendo fild It's fair to say the promotion. But it's been there for such a long time. And the owner, Garry Pellham, joins me this afternoon, Gary, thanks for your time, Oh lovely to have you on. Were you surprised you've got a complaint?
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Speaker 5: Ah? Look, you know nowadays is probably some bound to happen eventually, you know, with the with everything having to be politically correct and that sort of thing. But I'm not surprised, realistically, but happy it's been dismissed.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: Fifteen years you've had that billboard up there. We think this is the only complaint you've ever had though, so maybe it's a very twenty twenty five thing, Gary, that people would complain.
00:40:19
Speaker 5: Well, possibly, I mean we've had other signed up there previously. I mean, this sign's relatively new, considerably been down there since nineteen ninety one, yes, and always advertised it.
00:40:30
Speaker 1: Have you had people come in on the sign before? I imagine it's quite the talking point around town.
00:40:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, school kids would go past and get a bit of a laugh out of it, and other people would go past them toot or whatever. Or you know, you might get someone ring up and say, well how much and that sort of thing.
00:40:48
Speaker 1: Isn't that the joy of advertising?
00:40:50
Speaker 13: Though?
00:40:50
Speaker 1: Like you're trying to cut through, you're trying to get your message out there. Anything that you can do that is not offensive to people, surely you can do that, Gary. I would have.
00:41:00
Speaker 5: Thought, well you can, yeah, but obviously nowadays, you know, people like to think that, you know, you've put a little bit of restrictions on businesses and that sort of thing, and hopefully they change their ways.
00:41:14
Speaker 1: I like it. It's a win. It's a win for the little guy, win for the good guy. Tell me what it means in mechanical terms, What do you actually offer.
00:41:22
Speaker 5: Well, once a mechanical or even the average joe blow that takes the cylinder head off their vehicle, they bring it into us and then we do the repairs on it.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: And so you're the best at that in town, which is what the billboard says.
00:41:35
Speaker 5: Exactly exactly what the billboard says.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Were you surprised when you got the call saying someone had complained.
00:41:42
Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't actually a call. It came through on an email back in late May.
00:41:47
Speaker 1: So, and so how does it play out from there? So someone complains, then do you have to run up to some sort of tribunal or plead your case?
00:41:55
Speaker 5: No, my business partner, he just responded to the email in saying you know that we physically, you know, repair the cylinder heads. We've always advertised it, and a lot of them are cannic use that terminology when they talk to their customers anyway to repair the cylinder head.
00:42:14
Speaker 1: Well, I like the fact that common sense seems to have prevailed. Gary, So world done to you on that. So the billboard will stay there. Where do we find you give you business? A plug for us?
00:42:22
Speaker 5: Gary, Well, we've just done the downtrack out of town at six forty two Port Road.
00:42:28
Speaker 1: Beverly, Adelaide's cylinder Heads and just Heads Performance. So if anyone needs yep, if anyone.
00:42:34
Speaker 5: Needs anyone needs, anyone needs a cylinder head repaired or any performance work done on their cylinder head to improve the slow on it, and then give us a call or pop in.
00:42:46
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see you won the Cap five double A Afternoons with Leaf Forest, so we know the Brontes overseas. He is over in the UK, which means we get the great pleasure of Sam Hayes joining us again. Lovely to see you, Sam, Thank you for coming in. Thanks Ley, you are a country boy by heart. You would look out at our windows here and see this rain and think how nice is this?
00:43:08
Speaker 12: Yeah?
00:43:08
Speaker 1: No, this is a proper rain too.
00:43:10
Speaker 14: It's probably actually the best rain event we've had really across the state really for the start of the season.
00:43:17
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that and it's July, so.
00:43:21
Speaker 14: There has been a break of sorts across a lot of the state, but some have missed out. It's been a little bit patchy. I'm just watching the radar now and it's sort of making its way towards Renmark and that Northern Malley has really had not much at all so far, so there'll be people there with crops watching that rain come their way and hoping it makes it all the way to their farm.
00:43:46
Speaker 1: So take your real estate hat off for a second, put your farming hat on. I mean, what does this do for farmers, this kind of rain. You and I were talking just off air about it that even places like my home in the southeast, which has always got rain, they're desperate for it too. This would be a massive boom for farmers. Yeah, that's right, I think for a lot of farmers.
00:44:06
Speaker 14: Obviously, if you've got live stock, you've been feeding out stock feed so's pellets for a long time and unfortunately it doesn't rain feed, so it's got to rain and then the feed's got to grow. And if you drive around, okess, if you drive around anywhere around South Australia, you'd notice that the pastures and the crops aren't anywhere near near as tall as what they normally are, so there's not as much feed. So if you've got live stock, you're waiting for the feed to grow so you can stop buying feed. And then for the cropping guys, they dry seed these days, so they put there. They seed their paddocks before rain if they need to. Sometimes, depending on the season, it might have already rained. But so they put invest a lot of money into seeding and then they wait for the rain. So if it doesn't rain at the right time, then they're crops. You know, it's a they might have a sort of a low yielding crop or no crop in the worst case scenario. So they are that punting on the weather every year. They've had some good years some of those cropping guys across much of the state, but there's some areas more north than south that that have struggled a bit. But yeah, every farm's different. I mean, it's one of those painful things. You could be actually only five k's from a mat or a neighbor and he gets you know, he gets ten mil and you get four. But yeah, they're a resilient bunch by and large. But it has been a particularly dry season.
00:45:34
Speaker 1: Have you Do you get to a point as a farmer where you say, right, we we're happy with this, but we want it to stop at a certain point. We don't want too much. Do you want to just a constant, slow trickle as opposed to just a big rain bomb and then nothing. Yeah, that's right.
00:45:48
Speaker 14: Those soaking rains definitely, you certainly don't want sort of erosion and runoff. So those big stormy rains can be a bit much. So a soaking rain like today is perfect, really, And I'm saying that to all those people that are trying to, you know, run from the bear office to the car.
00:46:05
Speaker 1: Just spare a thought everyone else, because it is. It is good.
00:46:08
Speaker 14: I think I've had two people call me and ask me for lunch today because it's too wet to do much else. I'm not sure what they think I'm doing. Obviously not much, but yeah, but no, the farmers would be enjoying today.
00:46:18
Speaker 1: Well that's the difference, isn't it. The metro versus the country people. Oh man, I'm going to get wet walk into the cars. Country people are just jumping through the roof. Let's tie all this in with what you do with real real estate, because what does this do in terms of presentation, in terms of marketing these kind of I mean, this is a boom, would it not be if you are either buying or selling a farm, because it's going to look a lot nicer in a week's time.
00:46:41
Speaker 14: That probably did last week. Absolutely, Yeah, no, we probably follow. We follow the weather and commodity prices as much as you would interest rates. I guess if you're buying and selling in residentially, so it certainly helps. And I guess we're moving into a period where farms, you know, are farmers are more likely to probably want to present their properties to the market when it is a bit greiner and their crops are coming through.
00:47:06
Speaker 1: So yeah, it will be a help.
00:47:08
Speaker 14: And I think it's as much as anything psychologically, it's a help for people buying and selling when they know that the season's broken and you know, they've got a chance of making some money over the next six months hopefully, So that does help the morale of the industry.
00:47:25
Speaker 1: Two P always used to talk about presentation for homes here in the city, and it would be things like, you know, clean up your verge, have you garden looking good, you know, candle a little bit of whatever, sunshine through all of that kind of stuff. Take us into the rural farming aspect of it. I guess it's pretty much the same. Clean the farm as much as you can, but are you doing little things too to encourage people the fire going that kind of you know, so that when people walk in they're like, oh, this is just this is what I'm after this lifestyle. Yeah. Absolutely.
00:47:53
Speaker 14: I mean for the bigger farms, the house probably has a little less to do with it, and there'd be a lot of partners of farmers out there that'll be sighing hearing me say that. But it's probably probably partly true that most of the values in the land. But I think that first impression when you drive on to a farm, I always think that first two hundred meters of the driveway or the main entrance, you know, even if there's little potholes that you can fill up, make it smooth, you know, spray, make sure there's no weeds, or just make you know, make sure that's that first impression. Even the gate, the first gate that I think I open when I drive into a farm, into a paddock. I always say to my clients, you know, let's make sure this gate's spot on.
00:48:36
Speaker 1: You know, the latch.
00:48:37
Speaker 14: Works, everything works. It's it's just that first sort of signal to someone a buyer they might be spending you know, multiple millions of dollars on a property that's a few hundred acres and they've got all the stats, they've got the rainfall, they've got the soil profile. But those first little things you see, and I'd even if I was selling a farm and I hadn't redid my sort of gate entrance for a while, I'd probably think about that too. And then when you move more to lifestyle properties, definitely the house. I mean, I think I sort of underestimated the extent to which been coming from a farm. I always thought, well, the lands ten thousand and acre, it's you know, one hundred acres. The house is worth three hundred grand. It's probably I'll focus on the farm, but the house on one hundred acre property in the hills is obviously really important. And so thankfully I've got a guy that works with me, Sam Walk, who's quite good at that, styling and helping sort of declutter the old farmhouse and make it look different and appealing to a broader audience. I guess, and I can't say that's my strength leath, but we've got someone on the team that's really good with that, and it's helped a lot. So he's actually like the Resie guys. He does work with stylists. He's got all the candles. You know, he's got the playlist going. So when we're walking through a more of a lifestyle property, it's got the feel of something that where you would want to live.
00:49:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit of John Denver in the back, but I think you know so, I worked on the Clouds for two years behind the scenes on the TV show. When you drove into Kingsford off the main road, it was all of that that you describe, but it was the beautiful rolling hills, the green and then you would drive down and then you would see the house and that was like there's a jewel of the crown. And yes it was an old house, but it still had that character appeal. I always said to Bronti and Suzan Jen and Tupe, you know, every time I pick up a SA Life magazine, I see the beautiful homes at the front, which are always the twobe and two popes. What technology has done too for the farming and the rural aspect of it. I mean the drone shot. Now, when you can see a photo from that must help you out in terms of presentation at selling homes. It's huge.
00:50:40
Speaker 14: It's huge, so much so that we one of the first people we employed full time in the rural business was a videographer and a drone person who's with us today and being able to get out there with the drone take the photos different aspects of the farm. It's a view even when we're sort of standing next to the farmer like they love seeing it too. They don't see it from the air very either. But yeah, the drone and the video. We spend a lot of time on our videos because they tell a story too, and sometimes yes, it's the neighbor buying the property, so it's pretty easy for them to understand the district. But we get a lot of out of town buyers, out of region buyers, into state and overseas from our lifestyle through to our bigger commercial agribusinesses that their first impression is the video. So that video and the story you're telling that three minutes and it can't be a ten minute video. It's got to be pretty punchy, and I guess the key is just building that initial emotional attachment. Mindful that your buyers are making a commercial decision as well as a life decision, especially if it's a working farm, So you don't want to discredit that, but you do want to build a connection with the heart early and give them a reason to get in the plane, get in the car, drive over from Victoria wherever they live, and have a look at this property. So yeah, we spend a lot of time flying drones around. We've been we've we've nearly been taken out by a wedge tail eagles on several occasions. But the drone still lives to fight another day and it's been a very useful asset.
00:52:12
Speaker 1: Oh, it looks amazing. The photos in the videos always look extraordinary. Does a backstory help? Does history help? If you so? Again? I think of Kingsford, you know, like there is a story to be told there. Are you trying to tap into what's the story of this farm or the characteristics of this farm or this rural property that you know, we can delve into the history and lean on the nostalgic aspect to it.
00:52:32
Speaker 14: Very much, So, yeah, very much so. I think sometimes you've got to be careful not to tell the story for the vendor. You always become so attached. These are often multi generational farms and we're working for our client, who's the seller. But a bit of history and a bit of a background helps to paint a picture for the buyer too, and you know when you get to your more detailed im so you know, the video is more about telling the story and then the information memor adams all the yields and the cropping history and the fertilizer history and the stocking rates, et cetera, et cetera, and the details around the sharing shed, et cetera. But so, yeah, and I guess we keep reiterating we're across a range of sort of lifestyle through to the bigger farms. But yeah, that history. I find a lot of people off the land like to know the heritage of the property, and that's something we try and tell that story.
00:53:25
Speaker 1: The flip side of that. And I don't know if this is a silly thing to admit. I remember when we sold our first home here in Adelaide and then moved to our next home. There was a sense of emotion about it because it was like we had our kids in this home. You know, we got married, not in the home, but you know when we first got married. All that kind of stuff. I wonder if that's amplified in the farming sector, because for a lot of people, that's all I've ever known you might be a generational farmer where you might be the one who after your watch. It's not in your keeping anymore. I wonder do you see since then do you speak to people about that?
00:54:01
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's probably one of the biggest parts of our job, to be honest, is helping people through that process and that decision. And some people come to us when they're sort of early on in that decision making process of selling the family farm, and some come to us when they've made up their mind but that it's going to happen. But generally speaking, it's a decision sort of on two parts because it's the it's where you live, but it's also where they work. So they're making a decision on their job, you know, their career sometimes and also on the home and often a home that has had multiple generations live in it. So and sometimes we're dealing with multiple generations, so we're dealing with dad might be sixty, the son's are you know, son's daughters are sort of thirties, they might be off farm. But still obviously these assets are often very valuable, so there's there's interest at multiple levels of the family and all. And you know, it's interesting I find I find often it's the mum of the family, the wife that might call us first, you know, that's making that first call and sometimes driving it. More so, sometimes it's the husband driving it who Historically it's more the husbands that have been working on the farm. But they're probably you know, potentially if they're a generation older than us, they're getting a bit tired, and it's the way thinking, well, that's probably time, Frank that you know, you hung up your boots and the kids are all off into state. So that big, big, big decisions, and I guess having been through it, you know you're off the land too. Having been through it all myself, A big part of it is separating your identity from the property, and your identity as a farmer is a big thing. Like you've grown up, you know, you've played footy for the local footy club, you've played netball for the local netball club. You've been on the farm, your dad was on the farm. You know, stepping back from that is actually stepping away from who you've felt you've been for a very long time. And so having had a little experience of that myself, I think you know, okay, you're dealing with a very valuable asset often, but you're dealing with people and being able to walk them through that at their own pace. You know, some of these decisions might take twelve months, so I don't For me, it's about the relationship. And you know, for our team, it's not about well, whether we get a sale or not, like it's if this. If it's the right outcome for them to sell, great. If it's the right outcome for them to stay on the farm, then that's great too. But there's a fine line I think between sometimes being stubborn and being persistent. And being persistent it's a wonderful attribute, but if you're being stubborn, if you had a couple of bad seasons and you're not happy, and you're you're perhaps really not happy, then maybe it is time to dig deep and think about what your next move is.
00:56:52
Speaker 1: Sam Hayes is my guest real estate radio from to Rural. But that makes it more difficult too, I guess when it's a legacy. So we were talking last time, you were hear about Lindsay Park. I mean, there are properties and then there are properties, and I guess you would have that awkward thing. Maybe some of the family wants to go. Maybe some of the family don't want to go. Do you find is it different city versus those people in the We're all a bit laid back in the country. Let's be honest. There's probably not as much speed in it as maybe some people here. They're excited. Let's bang, we want to go move in this other suburb. Where do you find that there's a slower pace the people of the country, they're not in quite as rush.
00:57:27
Speaker 14: Absolutely, and I'd say too. I mean, don't get me wrong. Selling your house in nord or Pernside's if it's been the family for fifty years, that's a big deal too, Like these are. I think the job in real estate, generically, I think is largely helping people through those quite emotional processes. And when there's money evolved too more so. But yeah, definitely with farming families, it's.
00:57:54
Speaker 1: Not something that happens overnight.
00:57:56
Speaker 14: It's something that takes a little bit of time and those discussions take time. And yeah, there's families are wonderful things, so there's and family businesses are really interesting things. So succession in farming is probably if you talk to farmers, like what would be one of the most important things to get right, you know, in business, in their business, you think they're going to talk about stocking rates or how they manage the land. I'd say that, you know, most farmers, generational farmers, would say succession is probably the number one most important topic to get right, because if you get it right, it not only means you know that there's business continuity, but it means that you've got a happy family.
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Speaker 1: And and it's very hard today because because.
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Speaker 14: The farms you know, are on you know, in a lot of the state where you're from the southeast and York Peninsula and up through the Brosse, you know, they can be ten thousand dollars an acre, and these families could have, you know, a thousand, two thousand and three thousand acres, so they're thirty million dollar assets in some case. And you've got an off farm a son or daughter, and an on farm son or daughter. And you know, how you accommodate the one that's off farm, and how you accommodate the one that's on farm. The one that's on farm, you know might inherit the farm, but they may never sell that, and you know that's all they may. And then the one off farm needs to be sort of commensurated suitably, you know, because it's a big family asset that they're not getting. So these are all really big decisions and we sort of, whilst that's not our role as such, we do work closely with family accountants and the family more broadly, because inevitably the farm is the biggest asset.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, such an emotional attachment, is it as the whole family too, decimating country footing teams wheneveryone decides to leave to which is never ideal. What the flip side of that, though, is that there is so much excitement for those people who want what did you call it, not the sea change, what did you call it? Last tree change? The tree change? Yeah, I mean the excitement because yes, while you may be leaving a farm and you life becomes very different from being grown up on the farm, all of a sudden, to go into that lifestyle as someone who maybe has taken that tree change from the metro into the country, it's just got to rejuvenate your whole life and your family life and think this is our new norm, which must be the best feeling too being involved in that.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, so exciting, It is so exciting and depending on the size of the farm. Some of these tree changes will sort of lease out the land to a neighboring farmer so that they've got all the sort of I guess the country views without the work, so that they might just run some sheep on their property or make it very easy on themselves. And others will just dive in, depending on how much how busy you are with work and how much flexibility you've got with work. But there's something to be said. I was driving around a property at pusy Var, which is sort of the back of Eden Valley. It's where pusy our reasonings, you know, if you're your lumber fan is grown. But it's on the other side. It's a grazing property. And I was driving around with the owner and he has a big, big wine business, has for forty fifty years. And he was just saying he's got several properties, but he's selling this one. And he said to me, geez, I'm going to miss this. He said, this was just the best switch off from running a big business. You know, I'd come out here and feed the sheep. I'd drive around just where we've driven today. And he said, in terms of sort of managing my mental health or looking after keeping me balanced. He said it was the best thing, and I think, what a great thing to have. So I think that's what these tree changed people, you know, within an hour hour and a half from Adelaide.
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Speaker 1: I guess that's.
01:01:36
Speaker 14: Part of what they're seeking, is that connection to nature which is so healthy.
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Speaker 1: I look out the window now, and there would be people who are looking. It's gray, it's over cast, it's raining, and they'd be thinking, oh, this is awful. I think that there's something genetic in us, though. I look at this and I get nostalgic for this. Like this is after school walking home, getting change footy gear on out of footy training is in cold but forty four gallon drums, you know, with axe handles that have just punched holes into Like I imagine there's a lot of people who want that lifestyle of the mist that lays low on the farm, or you know, the frost on the grass in the morning and that kind of stuff. Yeah, the cuckoo.
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Speaker 14: Barrows, all the sounds, the sounds of being sort of away from the traffic.
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Speaker 1: I guess, no, it is.
01:02:24
Speaker 14: It's something that's you know, we've talked about it on this show and with Stacy historically that it is something that more and more people are chasing, and it's been made possible because of the more flexible work arrangements, But it is It means that there's a place for those sort of seventy to one hundred acre properties that aren't necessarily viable unless they're part of a bigger farm. But if that has supplementary income and you can you know, you know, run a little side business on it, egg side business. But I think it's that well being factor that's the biggest influence and the biggest reason why people are making that change.
01:03:01
Speaker 1: We tell the kids all the time. They don't believe us. We used to have to get home so you finished school. You would chop your kindling, you would chop your fire, would had to have the fire going. We were lucky we had sort of open fires and stuff in most of the rooms at the house. You know, by the time mum and dad got home five five point thirty through the eighties and the ninety that fire better be going.
01:03:19
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, And that's the same. I mean, in fact, I was just thinking driving here. I hope my youngest is kept out fire going tonight. But you know it's those jobs too, isn't it. Leth Like there's always a little job to do on a property, and having delegating that to your kids and having that responsibility get them off the screens. I don't think there's a better time in the history of the world to have kids out and about doing jobs on around a house, on a round a farm, and we, you know, grew up some of my fondest memories. The smell of the freshly cut red gum. You know, Dad would be cutting the cutting up the timber and I'd be throwing in the back of the ute, and you know, we couldn't talk to each other. We both had earphones at their headphones on because they looked the thing. But they were some of my fondest memories. I remember, that's great, the parts of the farm I was on and the big huntsmen crawling out scaring the bejees out of you. But I remember exactly the parts of the farm, you know, where I was with Dad, and I probably was only seven, eight, nine ten, you know, getting a bit keen, getting a bit close to the chainsaw to grab the next log, and I'm telling you to back off a bit.
01:04:24
Speaker 1: Huntsman the size of small dogs. Or we always used to peel the bark off the trees and there's always frogs and lizards and worms and whatever else in that see you see to eat. That sells the dream right there. So people are interested in contacting you. So the people who would contact you most people selling rural properties, people wanting to get in. Is there is it a fifty to fifty split? What's the sage there would be? Yeah, probably fifty to fifty.
01:04:48
Speaker 14: I mean we'd only ever have ten or so properties on the market at any given time, and so we are talking to buyers regularly, so that's interesting and the buyers tore he is as fascinating as the sellers. But so finding out what buyers really want. Sometimes the property will catch their attention, but then you ask you know, ten questions and you find that probably won't suit. So we spend a lot of time with buyers, and then we try and help buyers if that property doesn't suit, you know, will happily recommend other properties that we've seen, you know, even with other agents, that that we think might work better. But we'd spend more time, I guess talking to two buyers. But yeah, We develop quite lengthy, deep relationships in a way with our sellers because we're often with them. For you know, I sold a property the other day and it was on the market for two years. So so you get to know those families really, really well, and you start to admire their persistence to sticking with it and waiting to get the right outcome, which which we did in that case.
01:05:52
Speaker 1: How do we get in touch with you? How do we find out more?
01:05:55
Speaker 14: So you can head to the two to two website. You click on the rural tab if you want to have a look at what we sell. It's actually there's some beautiful properties. We launched a couple today. We launched a big winery app in the Brassa and another beautiful old property just opposite my old family farm there at Angerston called the Elms. So yeah, get on the website, Sam Walk and myself. Our details are there and we're there to help whenever you need.
01:06:20
Speaker 1: Well done, good to see you, Thank you for coming in. Thankslly Hope the fire is going when you get home it will be Helton good only. Thanks for coming in. Sam Hayes from two and twob now Sam, for the next half hour or so, we'll be able to take your calls to off air, as will the other two and two experts. A double two three double O, double five go to it. The five double A real estate lounge open till.
01:06:40
Speaker 8: Three five double A afternoons with leap Forest.
01:06:45
Speaker 1: We'll speak to the weather Bureau very surely get the official line on today. Looking out the windows, though to the east of the city gray a little bit miserable. A little bit of rain perfect for some of us. Others may not enjoyed so much. But let's hope those people who are getting the rain are those who desperately need it. Not too much, not a big rain bomb at one time, but hopefully it just it's a nice continuous fall. If you would like to let us know what's going on in your area, you're welcome to do so. Eight double two to three double O. Jeff is in augate before we get to the bureau. Welcome Jeff.
01:07:20
Speaker 15: Noon golf, noon listeners. Yeah, I'm sitting by my own nice warm fire. Don't you worry about that. Since six this morning we've had forty eight meals of rain. Just thought. I don't know what hours have had, but Allgate is particularly wet. Part of the hills. Yes, and yeah, so there we go.
01:07:38
Speaker 1: That is a great number. Jeff, are you a rain gage enthusiast. You're always sort of checking.
01:07:43
Speaker 15: Out with a bit of a weather above ex farmer. But I hope I really open prized that the blokes out and Norse that really needed. They're getting a decent bit too.
01:07:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was saying to Sam, it was interesting last time I came to Adelaide from home, it was I got rain the whole way along the Kurrong and then from Tailor and Ben to or Meningi to Tailor and Ben Zero. There was just not a single drop. It was dry and the dust was flying across the road. It's amazing, isn't it How some parts of the steak can get so much and then others get nothing.
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Speaker 15: We went up through the Malley, up through Lockston Crunda and then through to mil Dura last weekend. It was terribly dry through there. But coming back we came back my n Anger Tango and through there and they've had a bit of ruin, stayed with friends at Lamroue and things are too there there they're getting a little bit.
01:08:33
Speaker 1: Oh beautiful, well done, So give us that number again. What have you had so far and how long?
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Speaker 15: We had forty eight since six this morning and that was a measured to go over half an hour ago. Probably had another couple of meals, so probably near enough to fifty. That's two inches in ther scale.
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Speaker 1: Excellent, well done, Thank you, Jeff, I appreciate it. Good work. Keep us up to thank you for that. Allgate getting nice numbers of rain. Where are you? If you're a rain gage enthusiast, you can let us know eight double two to three double o double. Oh she has livid again. She's been on fire the last couple of weeks. Morgan Pampa from the bureau. Welcome Morgan, Hey Dellly. We're happy with the rain. A lot of people are happy with this. Has been such a long time we've had rain like this, so farmers are happy. Gardeners are happy.
01:09:14
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right. And it is stretching quite far off even Redmark about to see some showers as well as at Loxton, so it's not just for the city at the moment, and there is plenty of cloud and still some showers. We was a bit of wind unfortunately, if only we could get rid of that. But otherwise the nice totals. That's good to hear about that forty eight millimeters. We've got about the thirty six point stix to some of our highest total since nine am. But otherwise that look, there's lots of I'm sure different totals about the hills at the moment, but in the city for us, we've also got about that nineteen millimeters in our gauge, and then at the airport about the twenty millimeters as well.
01:09:52
Speaker 1: We're happy that it's sort of slow and continuous Morgan, as opposed to just being you know, one ten minute monsoonal downpour.
01:10:00
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right. So this coldfront coming through has definitely tapped into enough moisture to bring these higher totals than what we've had for some time. June we didn't get it. May we did, but then even for July, it's quite a few years since we've seen at these amounts that we've had from today in some parts. So really with that, unfortunately again it is also just bringing that cold chill factor to the weather. So sitting in front of the fire down what about night this time of the day as well, let alone in the morning when it's also quite chilly. But because of all the cloud and the wind. We've got a minimum of eight roughly tomorrow morning, and even though it's going to be about a top of fourteen degrees tomorrow, it's probably only going to feel like the single digits through the day once again.
01:10:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny. I text my wife this morning, Morgan, on the way to an appointment, because there was, unfortunately a footy clinic had been organized at a local school, and I drove past and they were standing, you know when the kids stand there and they sort of bunched themselves up for the body warmth, almost like they're doing an Irish jig. There was ten degrees on the car and when I stopped and looked at felt like four. So it was four and rain. It was an ideal for these poor kids in the school holidays. What are we expecting then, so you mentioned tomorrow for the rest of the weekend and next week. Are we expecting more rain or is it going to calm down somewhat?
01:11:16
Speaker 16: Look a bit of both. It will calm down, but we've still got some showers into tomorrow and Friday. I do think they're going to clear up the Saturday and not too much expected on Sunday. As well, so look a bit ahead and miss with some of those showers coming up. It's mostly this stronger cold front coming through today, but it's just though Southwesley on shore airflow bringing that chance of the showers over the upcoming days, so you might not get too much to the gauge or especially for the hills, maybe we get towards the double digits into tomorrow. But yeah, definitely packed the layers and definitely packed all the wet weather gear as well as the gun boots for the kids.
01:11:51
Speaker 1: That is great news. Well, I'm Morgan, thank you for that. Appreciate it. Of course we will speak to you tomorrow. Morgan Pumpa there from the Weather Bureau. So I can tell you right now in the city it is nine point three degrees, but it feels like five point eight. Twenty two minutes to three. You're about to hear from an amazing guest with an amazing story. It's a new documentary that he's coming to Adelaide cinemas. There is a Q and a Tonight which will tell you all about but it will be in cinemas in the month of July. The documentary is called The First.
01:12:21
Speaker 2: Hymn The Christian Hymn is remarkable discovery.
01:12:28
Speaker 17: Archaeologists had no idea what they'd uncovered. An eighteen hundred year old Christian hymn, the first to be discovered with words and music. It's not even a page, really, it's just thirty centimeters by five cinemets, but it provides amazing early evidence not only of the beliefs and spread of Christian Hity, but also of its music.
01:12:52
Speaker 3: You want to understand this anxil. We also want to do much more.
01:12:58
Speaker 17: It's time to be a back to life.
01:13:02
Speaker 1: But this is such an exciting project.
01:13:04
Speaker 17: Anybody that I mentioned to the fascinating buried within the first hymn is an idea many doubted we would ever find in a text this song. Now scholars often say this line is of some interest, and what they mean is it's amazing.
01:13:21
Speaker 1: They're saying that somehow, within the one divine identity you have the Father, the Son, and the Holy.
01:13:28
Speaker 17: Spirit were on a historical and musical journey from the sands of Egypt to America's music Gweny, from Australian creative spacesm to English thinking spaces harnessing the power of music.
01:13:45
Speaker 15: Please to remember that it was that one line from that song, and they didn't understand anything about doctor a vulture to what's a Protestant?
01:13:52
Speaker 11: To what's a Baptist?
01:13:53
Speaker 17: To resurrect a song the world hasn't sung for almost two mon what.
01:13:58
Speaker 1: A can cully? Sorry that we would join hands with those who sang this first.
01:14:04
Speaker 17: Hymn world renowned singer songwriters America's Chris Tom Australia's Ben Field. What a moment.
01:14:14
Speaker 18: We're opportunity. I'm so honed to be brought into this.
01:14:17
Speaker 3: So this is happening.
01:14:18
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's happening time right, working with Nashville's finest, alongside choirs and classical instruments, employing modern techniques and time tested traditions to recreate an ancient song and give it back to the world. Welcome to the First Hymn Project.
01:14:42
Speaker 1: See I told you it was going to draw you in. It is a groundbreaking historical and musical documentary about the world's oldest Christian hymn. The host is a historian, musician, author and documentary host John Dixon, and he joins me in the studio the South of the Net. John lovely to see Thank you for coming in great to be with Thanks Oh my lord, what have you put together here? This is now I'm going to say I'm not religious, and I was taken by it. Like, let's go right to the very start. This is a two thousand year old.
01:15:11
Speaker 17: Hymn nearly it's I mean, it's one of the things that people in the West have forgotten or never knew that the Greeks, the ancient Greeks had worked out how to do musical notation. Fifteen hundred years before that clever monk in the Middle Ages worked out our notation system. The Greeks already had a notation system. We have about fifty songs that we're found on scraps of paper all around the ancient world. But one of them uses this same musical notation that Greeks used in the theater and the pub and so on for a Christian hymn. And it dates to the middle of the two hundred's AD CD maths and it's eighteen hundred years old and it's still recognizable. You know, for the musical nerds. It's diatonic music, which just means it's the tones and half tones, none of those weird quarter tones that we often associate with like Arabic music or you know, ancient stars of music, so it's kind of recognizable, and the lyrics are very easily translatable, and they're quite sweet. Whether you believe or not, they're sort of recognizably Christian, a Christian hymn.
01:16:20
Speaker 1: What was the emotion when it was found?
01:16:24
Speaker 17: Well, I mean, the amazing thing is it was discovered over one hundred years ago by two Oxford archaeologists who went to Oxyrncus in Egypt and asked, you know, did the locals know where any rubbish paper was? They thought that might be a clue, and they knew that oxy Rncas had been a scholarly town. Lots of literature must have been composed or copied there. So the locals took them out to the rubbish dumps and they started digging up the rubbish dumps. They found five hundred thousand, five hundred thousand scraps of paper dating from two hundred BC to seven hundred AD, from the Ancient Greek period through the Roman period into the Islamic period. And amidst all of this find was this little piece of paper about thirty centimeters by five centimeters that has these five lines on it. That's the first Christian hymn with musical notation. But I also found copies of Aristotle, Plato thrown away in this rubbish dump. All that can be dated, you know, to the ancient world. They even found a contract to rig a wrestling match, like literally, it says, I Demetrius promise to throw the match and share the winnings with Brutus, signed dated Hang.
01:17:40
Speaker 1: So that argument about is wrestling real and what's been going on for hundreds of years thousands of Wow, what a dump. So it was found one hundred years ago.
01:17:48
Speaker 17: Yes, to get back to your question, but I happened to be in Oxford researching something completely unrelated eight years ago, asking for a whole bunch of these manuscripts which are all stored there.
01:17:59
Speaker 1: They've just been sitting there for one hundred years, yep.
01:18:02
Speaker 17: And I'm going through all the different manuscripts that I was interested in, and one of them was this ancient hym and as I'm looking down the microscope at the letters and at the musical notation, I simply thought, how come no one has brought this back to life and given this back to the world. That was the brain explosion that led to, you know, the first hymn film, which tracks the discovery through to the analysis, through to the more frankly, the resurrection of this ancient him.
01:18:31
Speaker 1: Do you think it attracted you more because you've got musical chops yourself. Yeah, so you're a historian who loves music. It was the perfect marriage. I think that's why.
01:18:41
Speaker 17: You know, there have probably been many historians who have viewed that same manuscript down that same microscope in Oxford, but I just happened to be one with a PhD in ancient history who was also a musician once upon a time in the dark ages, and it was just irresistible. So yeah, that combo of things. And then it was when I introduced it to some really skillful musicians, much more skillful than I, who said, actually, this has got legs, mate, you should give this a go. And that was probably three years ago that we started working on in earnest filmed in Egypt where it was discovered in Oxford with the manuscript itself, and then we started to do the whole Nashville, LA songwriters putting this thing together. We recorded in a studio that Taylor Swift had recorded in and produced this eighteen hundred year old song in a very modern style. So anyone who hears the contemporary first hymn, it'll sound like a modern, not.
01:19:41
Speaker 1: Quite pop song.
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Speaker 17: But if you've heard any sort of contemporary Christian music, it sounds a lot like that. And all the scholars told us when we interviewed them about the style of music in the ancient Greek they said, it's tavern music. It's the music of the street and the theater. This is not like the later monastery music, you know, oh right, this is the music that people would have recognized as a popular style. So we thought, we're going to recreate this. We can't make it sound like a dirge. We've got to make it sound like something soaring.
01:20:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, so on that. So we saw the excitement when they found the John Lennon recording of you know, a song that the Beatles never put together. Are we realizing quite how important this find is. That you've been able to do this, I mean the documentary and we want everyone and we'll tell them about the screenings in a second, But this is amazing piece of history that you're brought to life.
01:20:38
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I really hope it creates an interest in all sorts of ancient music. This is the only Christian song found amongst the fifty different melodies from antiquity. But I can well imagine someone going, oh, well, if DICKO did that for the Him, I'm going to do it for that drinking song. Yes, and there is literally a song called the Song of Cyclists which says you're going to die, so live it up right now, shine as much as you can, because it's all over soon. But it's a really beautiful tune in this same style of music that Him is in, from roughly the same period.
01:21:14
Speaker 1: I think buon Jovi had a similar song, sleep while I'm alive, and you know, sleep when I'm dead or whatever it was.
01:21:20
Speaker 17: So I think it's a motif that's been sung a lot, but it goes right back.
01:21:24
Speaker 1: To the beginning. What a find like. It's again it's the are you? Are you a religious person yourself? Were you planning? Was it some kind of fate from above that you stumbled only said this time to do this to you?
01:21:35
Speaker 3: I think so.
01:21:35
Speaker 17: I am both an ancient historian by professional training, a musician by career once upon a time, but I'm also a believer in Christian So to look down at the lyrics and see the words we sing our hymn to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the only giver of all good gifts.
01:21:51
Speaker 1: Amen.
01:21:52
Speaker 17: Amen really resonates, Yeah, with all three of those loves of mine.
01:21:57
Speaker 1: And it's eighteen hundred years old.
01:22:00
Speaker 17: Yeah, So it's all about the Trinity, even though we often think that Trinity wasn't invented for centuries afterwards.
01:22:05
Speaker 1: But there it is in a song. What happens with it now? Documentary aside? What happens in the religious realm? What are people saying we have already heard from churches?
01:22:15
Speaker 17: In fact, I just got a message earlier today saying this weekend in Japan, we're singing the Japanese translation of this same hymn that we've brought to life. So it's happening in Japan. I know what's happening in Russia. It's happening all across America and in Australia. So the song is already being sung by churches because I've seen out a few weeks.
01:22:34
Speaker 1: How did you come to choosing Chris and Ben? Did you have a choice in that? Yeah?
01:22:39
Speaker 3: I did.
01:22:40
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I I was in charge of the whole project, you know.
01:22:44
Speaker 17: So I've known Ben for many years and he's a Grammy Award winner. So he wrote a song called what a Beautiful Name and if anyone's vaguely walked past a church in the last ten years, they will have sung that song. And so I was having a coffee with him three and a bit years ago and I said to him, I've got this crazy idea and he goes, mate, that's incredible.
01:23:03
Speaker 1: I've got to do it.
01:23:04
Speaker 17: And I thought, well, he's, you know, one of Australia's leading songwriters. He writes songs and other people sing them and he just does it full time and has done for years. So I thought, okay, will you be involved and he goes yep, and then he said, we need a collaborator. Now he knew Chris Tomlin. And Chris Tomlin is the biggest selling Christian songwriter in the world today. I mean he has I think five billion downloads on Spotify.
01:23:29
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, Okay, so it's another level.
01:23:31
Speaker 17: He's the Christian Taylor Swit. Here's the Christian Taylor with Yeah. In fact, so many people sing his church songs in churches around the world today. That Time magazine described him as arguably the most sung artist in the world because precisely because he's given songs thousands of people gather in churches and sing. So he got on board and he I mean, he just brought a whole level of energy and brought a rehearsal studio and writing studio and then got us into this amazing tape Swift Studio in Nashville.
01:24:02
Speaker 1: So he was really key.
01:24:03
Speaker 17: And then the final scene of the film actually brings it all together in a performance to ten thousand people into.
01:24:08
Speaker 1: Yes, now we again, we want people to go and see the film. So you've got a Q and a tonight, don't you at the Palace East End here in exactly six thirty. The Palace is at the East End yep.
01:24:18
Speaker 17: Six thirty, and I'm going to be there introduce the film and then take everyone's questions at the end. We've been doing this around all the capital cities. Yes, but it's thirty one July. It's actually going into the cinemas.
01:24:27
Speaker 1: Proper coreat and we'll be able to see it everywhere, from event cinemas of Marion, Heud's in Norwood, Heuds Cinemas at Tea Troo Plaza, everywhere there's a big screen, there will be the screening of the film. So first and foremost, congratulations on doing that together where and you're doing musical performances with some of these too.
01:24:43
Speaker 17: To We've got some local artists going to sing this this ancient song and I can't resist in the middle of the q and A singing the ancient Greek for everyone, so they'll get an ancient Greek performances showing off.
01:24:55
Speaker 1: I like, yeah times, I'm showing where would you if you had your choice? Again, I'm not religious, so I don't know that the particular place is here. Where would you like to perform it? Who would you like to perform it? Too? If somebody knocked on your door and said, hey, I'll tell you what, John, you can perform that particular piece of music here to whom? Where would you go?
01:25:15
Speaker 17: I would take a barge out into Lake Galilee, where the main man once was, and I'd set up a massive pa just offshore, and I'd play it up into the Galilee and hills. Whoever turned up. I don't care. I've done it for an audience of one.
01:25:30
Speaker 1: Imagine that. Congratulations first and format. It is an extraordinary and I think what people will enjoy most about your documentary is, yes, if you have faith. Obviously that's a no brainer. But there will be a lot of people too who music buffs, who are historians, who will be interested in this too, won't they? Yeah, I think so.
01:25:48
Speaker 17: I mean, if you're a music nerd, we go off not just with the ancient stuff, but we're in the studio with the producer working out how you patch this thing to that thing and create what we've created.
01:25:58
Speaker 1: It's called The First Hymn, a groundbreaking historical and musical documentary. John Dixon is who you've been hearing. He is the host of the historian. The men who sort of put it all together and was able to find this incredible work. Chris Tomlin, Ben Fielding are also part of it. It's music, it's faith, it's history, and a premiere is in our cinemas as of July, but there is a Q and a tonight Palace Nova East End. Limited tickets available, I'm told, so you can still get there tonight if you can from half a six. Great to meet you. Thanks that much, what we'll be done. Thank you. I can't wait to see where it goes from here. It feels like it's just the beginning. Yeah, it is just the beginning. Yeah, watch with interest. John Dixon, thanks so much for coming in the first him. Folks check it out at the cinemas.
01:26:38
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01:26:41
Speaker 1: Four minutes to three. Richard Pasco on the other side of the three o'clock News with Kendall. What's the oldest piece of tech you've got at your house? Let us know a double two three double O double. Oh and if you've got any tech questions for Richard, you're welcome to join us. Just after three o'clock before we get to news, Layton is in the Philippines. Welcome Layton.
01:27:00
Speaker 18: Good afternoon.
01:27:02
Speaker 1: All right, very well, thanks. How are you?
01:27:05
Speaker 18: Oh, I'm so glad that I'm able to get in touch with Adelaide again.
01:27:09
Speaker 1: Oh, you're back at the Land of the Living. So are you on the way from Tokyo to Philippines to Adelaide?
01:27:16
Speaker 18: Yeah, we're Yeah, we're in the middle of and now we've just moved into our new home about a week or so ago. That is still a lot to be done here, probably only untact about three quarter of what we bought. Now we're trying to find a place of football.
01:27:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always the hard part, is moving.
01:27:39
Speaker 18: Oh, that's the that's the worst part. But yeah, I just got a bit of touch base and congratulate you on the afternoonship well the stations away.
01:27:49
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.
01:27:51
Speaker 18: I'll be honest, I don't I don't quite often listen to the afternoons as much as I do the evening.
01:28:00
Speaker 1: Well, no, we appreciate any time, anytime that people can tune in. We're delighted with that.
01:28:04
Speaker 18: So yeah, just also just to let people know that, you know, I am still around, but I haven't been able to contact people who aren't on social because I haven't had an app to do so. Of course, until we've found a good one, I'll see it. So we're all organized there. And yeah, we just had a huge rain storm just a little while ago, and I'll show it on the Facebook. I've never seen rain so heavy in all my mind.
01:28:37
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
01:28:38
Speaker 18: I have a look one to get a chance.
01:28:40
Speaker 1: I will. I'll check it out. Well, thank you late. We're very delighted too here because we have some rain in Adelaide for the first time for a long time, substantial rain at least two We've had a number of people texting, Helen said twenty meals at Glen elg North, which is excellent to hear so late and thank you. Great to hear and people who are interested obviously will take note of that. But good luck with the packing. That's never the fun part, I guess is the unpacking. But it's good to have you back on the radio minute and a half to three News with Kendall and then Richard Pasco.
01:29:10
Speaker 8: Five Double A Afternoons with Leith Forest.
01:29:14
Speaker 1: Yes well, thanks to Complete Care Community and home care Services, the live stream is now going Facebook and YouTube. You can watch us as well as hear us. If you want to do that. We would love to have you a part of the show. Richard Pasco is here, will welcome him officially in just one second because we want to talk about your tech questions. Eight double two three double o double oh. But also for a little bit of fun, Richard wants to know the oldest piece of technology you have in your home. Eight double two three double O double o. Before Richard's even walked in, Julie said Leith Richard and AMFM disc and cassette radio which I bought in nineteen eighty four Judy Free went to America and I still listened to five Double A on it every single day. Good on your Julie, Thank you for that. And just quickly on the rain, Alexander said, there was some flooding outside the archibar at Fullerton Road. Traffic gets slowed. The drains have now been cleared and the water has subsided. But just be careful if you are driving around on our streets and there's a bit of road water about Harvy Norman Computers, your text specialists, bring us Richard Pasco, Pasco Pasco?
01:30:21
Speaker 3: Can you turn it up?
01:30:22
Speaker 1: And then can you turn it on again? Always lovely to see you. Thank you for coming in.
01:30:28
Speaker 3: Always good to see you too, Leif what was this wonderful day? Oh, rain's coming down.
01:30:34
Speaker 1: This is my kind of day.
01:30:35
Speaker 3: Nobody knows how to drive. I've been all over the Adelaide Hills this morning.
01:30:39
Speaker 1: No one knows how to drive.
01:30:40
Speaker 3: No, that ain't.
01:30:40
Speaker 1: It's the worst. People forget how to drive in the rain because they think, well, maybe it's going to be a bit slippery and slicky on the roads.
01:30:46
Speaker 3: But which it is is a bit slippery and slicky.
01:30:50
Speaker 1: But everyone thinks, well, let's do twenty five in a sixty zone. It's infuriating. Yeah, like you don't have to go sixty if you're a little concerned, but at least do fifty.
01:30:58
Speaker 3: Five exactly right, stick the right side of the road. Just I'll just say that for a truck that was coming the other way, say yes.
01:31:05
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, yeah, all those people are getting the right lane and then decide to do the slowest speed possible, so the rest of us get frustrated, and then that's when danger occurs in the wet weather. We went your tech questions for Richard A double two three double double. What's the inspiration for the old tech?
01:31:19
Speaker 3: What did you find brought in the original iPad iPad one? Look at that no camera still works, one hundred percent battery on.
01:31:26
Speaker 1: There, no camera.
01:31:27
Speaker 3: It's in good nick, it's in good now. I look after this.
01:31:30
Speaker 1: So when was the iPad one first launch?
01:31:32
Speaker 3: I have to do some research.
01:31:34
Speaker 1: Twenty I think, so something like that.
01:31:38
Speaker 3: But I actually had because this wasn't sold in Australia at the time. Used to shipping firm to get it into me. Had about three four months before it actually got released in Australia.
01:31:47
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I remember hearing a tech expert on the Howard Stern Show when that first was released and he said, I think it's a bit of a stumble from Apple. Not sure people are going to buy it. They don't want something big and clunky like that. It was a little market.
01:32:00
Speaker 3: It's it's quite a game off the mark. Yeah.
01:32:02
Speaker 1: January of twenty ten, Thank you, Thanks Sam. There you go. So we've had a fifteen years the iPad, so we're into iPad number something.
01:32:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one comes out of with cover this because we've got different iPads now. So we're normal iPad, which is the iPad for everybody out there. Then we're to slightly upmarket iPad, which is the iPad Air, which comes in two sizes. Then we've got the iPad Pro and the iPad Pro Max. Now, if you've got an iPad Pro Max, you can speck it out to about six thousand dollars if you wanted. Really, Yeah, so you don't need that.
01:32:36
Speaker 1: People might have the k Nocki of fifty two to ten still in now they can't make calls on it anymore, can It's three G four G but you could still play snakes and two bits and pieces? All right, what do you got? Sam? This shows how young Sam is? How old are you?
01:32:49
Speaker 3: Sam?
01:32:49
Speaker 1: In your mid twenties twenty nine. You're twenty nine, he said, Well, I've got a compact disc Walkman at home. Doesn't feel old to me, though maybe I'm getting older because it doesn't. It feels like that's not that old, but maybe it is now.
01:33:04
Speaker 3: I saw somebody yesterday with a plasma TV sitting in the lounge and I explained, big heavy place. When you turn that on, the street lights go down outside.
01:33:15
Speaker 1: There's a bit of that to it. I've still got a disc like a Walkman, a cassette style Walkman that works perfectly. I don't have any cassettes to play it.
01:33:24
Speaker 3: I've got a yellow waterproof walkman that with the belt.
01:33:29
Speaker 1: That's that was the look, wasn't it. You would clip it on your on your pocket or your belt, pop your headphones.
01:33:35
Speaker 3: In and walk down the street.
01:33:36
Speaker 1: Did you have your headphones when in your ears or did you have the one with the metallic band.
01:33:41
Speaker 3: Ears?
01:33:42
Speaker 1: We had the metallic band with it, remember, had the little fluffy earbits that Yes, oh that was a good look.
01:33:47
Speaker 3: But yellow back on that now going yeah, wrong choice, but still.
01:33:53
Speaker 1: At the time, I love anywhere. Has anyone got like a Commodore sixty four or an Amstra or a Meaga or any of those kind of old school you know, not the Nintendo reversions of, but the old school ones.
01:34:06
Speaker 3: I met somebody once whose wife has thrown away an Apple two the week beforehand. The original runs of that through in the bin.
01:34:18
Speaker 8: Why would you do that?
01:34:20
Speaker 3: Should be cleaning up at the time.
01:34:22
Speaker 1: We should all. I think we've got an Apple iPhone one or two or three somewhere. It was the curved back. Yes, doesn't work anymore, and they're all sort of trash. But I think we all thought to do the right thing. Planet Ark told us to drop our old phones in the stores, remember, so they could recycle them.
01:34:37
Speaker 3: Which you should still do.
01:34:39
Speaker 1: Okay, so not hold them A double two three double A double A question for Richard Pasco. You could see us on the Complete Care live stream. See him answer these questions live, see if he's stumped facially. Brad from One Tree Hill, you're speaking to Richard Brad big.
01:34:54
Speaker 3: Hi, Brad.
01:34:56
Speaker 19: Now, I got some technology you've still got from all school. It's called a slide rule.
01:35:02
Speaker 1: Rock Love.
01:35:03
Speaker 19: A slide rule used to be able to do modifications for his editions and trigonometry, logarithms, tangents coach and tents, and I just had a picture in the five text line.
01:35:16
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now, Brad. So it's like a ruler. It had the clear slide across, but the middle part of the ruler used to pull out around. I had one yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:35:27
Speaker 19: Now the other thing I was talking about going before.
01:35:30
Speaker 3: You do that, Brad, have you ever shown it to kids?
01:35:34
Speaker 12: Oh?
01:35:34
Speaker 19: They think it's something.
01:35:35
Speaker 7: Out of the pyramids.
01:35:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:35:37
Speaker 1: I don't want to embarrass my son. But the other day he couldn't open a CD case because he had never seen a CD, right, because who plays CDs?
01:35:46
Speaker 3: Lots of the listeners to say that, sorry, sorry, Brad, what's your question?
01:35:50
Speaker 19: Yeah, well you've got a good technology brain there, Richard Headden overseas right, yes, now, I'll see all these adverts for the he's if I did things just tacking year translate up the whole forty languages a load of rubbish.
01:36:08
Speaker 3: Or what what phone are you taking?
01:36:12
Speaker 15: Sam?
01:36:13
Speaker 19: A fifty five?
01:36:14
Speaker 3: You don't need the earbuds, just take your phone?
01:36:17
Speaker 19: Well why is that?
01:36:18
Speaker 3: Because you can use Google Translate on it. And I've done this many times with people from overseas. So you can go along and set it too. I had a conversation with a man from China who was trying to order food in a pub and basically turned it on and we ended up having a forty five minute conversation. Because I will talk into it translates for him, he talks into it translates for me.
01:36:43
Speaker 19: What's it called? Google?
01:36:44
Speaker 9: What?
01:36:44
Speaker 3: Google Translate?
01:36:45
Speaker 1: Google Translate, Google Translate.
01:36:47
Speaker 19: I'll go and go into it.
01:36:48
Speaker 3: No matter what country are you going.
01:36:50
Speaker 19: To, going to India and the Himalayas, It'll do it for you, beautiful. Oh right, Google Translate. Thank you made my day because I didn't know adverse come out a board. Then you've got to go on plans and all sorts of rubbish.
01:37:05
Speaker 3: But yeah, now use your fine, no worries.
01:37:09
Speaker 5: Thanks, thank you for your help.
01:37:11
Speaker 1: Did you retain any of that Chinese?
01:37:14
Speaker 3: No? No, how.
01:37:16
Speaker 1: That's was wash Hun't you well done?
01:37:19
Speaker 6: Deal?
01:37:20
Speaker 1: That's all I know. Steve is Ingaula. I did Chinese at university. Lasted about a week. It's too hard. I quit. I know you shouldn't be a quitter, but I was a quitted. It was just far too hard at my head. I think if you learned it earlier, when your brain's far more malleable to that kind of thing. You could probably get it.
01:37:36
Speaker 3: But there there was lots of people our age are learning new languages, especially with an out there.
01:37:42
Speaker 1: Now, somebody said that to me, the AI is better than some other sort of language force.
01:37:46
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, it does a great job.
01:37:48
Speaker 1: So I learned in university that w bugydale means I don't know in Chinese. So when the person would walk around the class and it's a leaf the I just go bugy doll a haha, and then he moved to the next person. You thought I knew what he was talking about. Steven Gouley got some old tech for Richard Pasco.
01:38:05
Speaker 13: Steve, Yeah, yeah, I've got an old techniques Hi Fi stereo system I bought nineteen seventy seven with the Keth concerto speakers and that still works today. And to get you guys on digital radio, I bought a little radio about ten years ago. I plugged it into the amp under the auxiliary. Now I get digital radio Hystereo.
01:38:23
Speaker 1: Nicks that is a brand that just never died. Yes, it's right.
01:38:27
Speaker 13: I mean they need a new turntable. He was trying to find one, so I gave him the turntitle the moment he used the play's records.
01:38:34
Speaker 3: Very good.
01:38:35
Speaker 13: Yeah, so that's going brilliantly great guys, easy old tech.
01:38:39
Speaker 1: Good on this, Steve, thank you for that. In Gauller eight double two to three double O double O questions and your old tech for Richard Pasco before we get to the break and we'll take your calls. On the other side. Trev from Mawson Lake says, the real to real tape deck with the tape sported in the sixties.
01:38:53
Speaker 3: And if you've got one reels, he should have done that with big money now.
01:38:59
Speaker 1: So when I ad it in radio, Vaughan Harvey at the radio school used to teach us how to cut and splice tape, which you would do with the old chalk pencil and then you would put it with the tape and it was a nightmare. And then once technology came in, we went, well we don't need that, threw it out.
01:39:12
Speaker 3: Should you imagine going back in time now and showing him audacity?
01:39:16
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, it's amazing. Way you can do now. Daryl's got an original Atari game console with the games Richard. This is from Steve. I've got a calculator that takes three batteries, has a rubber cushion footpads and you sit it on your desk. From the late seventies.
01:39:34
Speaker 3: I think I've got a shot one of those.
01:39:37
Speaker 1: Tony from Montague Farmer has a nineteen seventy nine Pong game console. We squashed tennis football in a shooting game. My grandparents bought it for me from England back in nineteen seventy nine. There is no better game than Pong. No, very simple. It's his dude, that's just great, Richard. Are your documents some fun? Is okay to keep on an old laptop which I don't use to go the internet on. I like to run photos on it for a slide show, says our teach.
01:40:08
Speaker 3: You can do that as long as the hard drive's okay, because he double to lose those.
01:40:12
Speaker 1: Photos, so put them on a hard drive.
01:40:14
Speaker 3: Still have an each way? Bet?
01:40:16
Speaker 1: Have you got one of the old slide projectors? Remember the old days of slides the negative for the photos? No, I don't we go one of those at home. I think mom and Dad have got it. Where it's the cylinder and it goes around. First gen iPad from Apple release March twenty three, twenty ten. Says Steven nine point seven inch seven sixty eight by ten twenty four px screen, and yours is in mint condition. That would be worth a bit, I would think.
01:40:39
Speaker 3: No, I think so, I don't know. We'll hold on for it.
01:40:42
Speaker 1: Just to find somebody wants to Bye. Richard Pascal always here. You got a question for us technology style or if you'd like to join in the conversation, what's the oldest bit of tech you've still got in your home? You can join us eight double two three double O double O. Richie here for Harvey Norman Computers, your technology Specialists.
01:41:00
Speaker 8: Five double A afternoons with Leap Forest.
01:41:04
Speaker 1: I hope you're enjoying the show listening to us on five double A or five double A dot com dot au. Thanks to Complete Care. You can see us on Facebook and on YouTube. Richard Pasco is here Adelaide tech guy. Dom's got a Super eight movie camera and a projector all there would be nice.
01:41:20
Speaker 3: I remember as a kid watching a Super eight movie and it got froze, got too hot and the whole screen just melted.
01:41:28
Speaker 1: Oh you saw the yeah, yes, which.
01:41:31
Speaker 3: The bloke that was showing at the time was not a happy man about that.
01:41:34
Speaker 1: Michelle from Bella's got a pocket mail device. You held it to the phone to connect and received emails. It doubled as a calendar and a phone book. I don't think I remember that pocket mail device, held it to the phone to receive emails, like a portable mode. Maybe I remember the pager. Dad had a pager as a kid.
01:41:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and had little PDAs.
01:41:56
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, mumb now, kind of that little type thing dad's got. This is from doesn't have a name, Richard, old technology in my home. My dad's got an Atari to six double zero. It's great fun when we were younger. A technique direct drive turntable with strobe. A lot of people, a lot of five double A listeners have got their old gramophones.
01:42:22
Speaker 3: They do, you know which? I think they love their turn tables too.
01:42:28
Speaker 1: Darren from Corimental Valley got a question for Richard Pasco, Adelaide tech guy. Darren.
01:42:33
Speaker 6: Yeah, Richard, I'm looking at getting a like a Wi Fi mesh extended make So number one, do you recommend anything?
01:42:49
Speaker 5: Number two?
01:42:50
Speaker 6: Is it relatively easy to set up?
01:42:54
Speaker 3: Yes? I do. I like the Google nest ones, so the Google next ones, so you play it's one of the devices next to your router, and then you place the other two you you put them out in your home and one will talk to the other one. And the beauty about those is that if you get fifty or one hundred megi in one, you get one hundred meg all over the house.
01:43:15
Speaker 6: Okay, right, you have to down mode an app because another one you do.
01:43:21
Speaker 3: They basically will all have an app.
01:43:24
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, so.
01:43:27
Speaker 3: Runs on the Google Home. The Google Home one will go along, doesn't matter if your iPhone or Android. You basically set it up all the way through the app. So what happens is that you'll start the first one off, then it will say you're putting another one in there, Yes, I am. You'll move to the next room and it will set it all up for you. Normally takes it out twenty minutes, half an hour and it's all done.
01:43:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, Darren, Darren, do sound confident, Darren.
01:43:53
Speaker 3: If you if you want to give me a call, I'll come out and do it for you.
01:43:58
Speaker 5: I know you've before, right.
01:44:01
Speaker 6: Oh good, No, thanks for your boss, Richard.
01:44:05
Speaker 1: Thanks Darren for that. Jeff on the tex says Richard. A National pocket transistor with earphone purchased in the PX in Vietnam nineteen sixty eight. Portable reel to reel recorder used to record some tapes and I would send them home instead of writing letters.
01:44:22
Speaker 3: It's good idea.
01:44:23
Speaker 1: You see that on TV shows and movies of like people in wartime carrying sort of over their shoulder, the little microphone. Real to reel makes sense. That'd be nice if it would be two. I'm not sure if we've got I think the only real to reel. I think we've still got in the building. KG interviewed Muhammad Ali once. Oh, and we kept it. It's on reel to reel somewhere. I think Mirth might have it in his booth somewhere. Hopell see everything else just got thrown out, Scott one a real to reel. We used to have a real to reel in the studios back in the old days. In fact, I think Brooklyn, who is amazing, does our livestream for us for complete care. She might have some photos. I think that Samson of our old studio. Here we go. So if you're watching us now on Facebook and YouTube, you can see. So there's our old tech which doesn't look that old really, But that was put in in two thousand and four, two thousand and four five, so it's twenty one years old. That particular panoras you can see missing a few buttons and a couple of fighters didn't work.
01:45:20
Speaker 3: It was always good fun ber the buttons.
01:45:22
Speaker 1: The odd Bob Francis glass of wine or shall we name in shame? I think Will Goodings might have dropped a cup of coffee in it once, which killed a water was it? He killed a couple of fighters on that. Bob's was hilarious because he spilt his wine in it late at night and then panicked. I thought, what do I do? I'm going to get in trouble here with the text. So he grabbed water and threw that in there too, just to get rid of the wine. Like all of a sudden, it's like a Christmas tree.
01:45:49
Speaker 3: I've got a mate whose brother has gone through four laptops, glasses of wine on all of them.
01:45:55
Speaker 1: Actually we lost a computer once. We dropped a glass of water at the Remember the apples to have the back panel back panel, and I had sort of the fan area. Yes, one of the kids drop that. Don't want to help, no, but get that on insurance. Richard Pascal I see if you've got a question, we could probably sneak you in before the harp ass headlines. Just quickly, it's Wednesday, It's update Wednesday.
01:46:13
Speaker 3: It is if you're in Microsoft laptop, it's update Wednesday. So if you open up today, there'll be all these updates coming down for you. You're going to start getting a message from Microsoft.
01:46:25
Speaker 17: Now.
01:46:25
Speaker 3: They're going to start pushing whether you want to go to Windows eleven. Yes, if you're in a Microsoft account. Just remember you can push that, push that out for another year.
01:46:33
Speaker 1: Now.
01:46:34
Speaker 3: If you sign up and say I've got a Microsoft account, you don't have to pay the fifty dollars and you'll get another year of support, but only one more year. So that message will come to you, right.
01:46:44
Speaker 1: Do you recommend the automatic updates? Do you like this? Yeah? Yeah, You're never afraid to update. You don't want to wait for glitches and bugs. You just do it.
01:46:52
Speaker 3: Just do it now. On my Microsoft device, I'm already three versions of Windows eleven ahead of the general public out there because I get all the beta versions on there. So I will let you know if there's a real issue coming, and I haven't had one so far.
01:47:06
Speaker 1: You've got friends in high places. Bill's got the original line King movie on VHS. I would have got heaps of vhs. Why, I don't know. I can't throw I know, but I can't throw them. I think I've still got some beta videos too, which again I don't know. If anyone's got a Beata player.
01:47:24
Speaker 3: It's got to be somebody out there's got one.
01:47:26
Speaker 1: They've done a long time ago. Do we reveal anything from the Quantus hack? Is there anything we should know about that?
01:47:31
Speaker 3: Look? The Quantus hack I think was very interesting because basically it was all done with the phone call. You know, that becomes the issue for people out there. So what happened basically was that somebody rang the it sorry, rang the call center which is offshore. Quantas bring it back. I would be the first thing I'd go along and say on that convinced whoever's in there that this is it. We need to log onto your computer, and that's how the hack all happened.
01:47:57
Speaker 1: That's simple. That's simple, mind you, I said, good, I don't know if you're like this. You live in this world, so you probably or you would be smarter than I, but I don't really care. It's like I understand if it's your bank details and something really personal. But if it's your name and your address and your phone number, I think that's every competition you enter online or whatever you do, you put that stuff in, or.
01:48:18
Speaker 3: You run down the local fish and chip shop and you fill in all your details on there.
01:48:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I go, well, whatever, It all.
01:48:24
Speaker 3: Depends what Quantus held of you at that time.
01:48:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me wrong. I don't want people sort of you know, creating a new identity and doing what they do the issue.
01:48:33
Speaker 3: But you know, business like Quantus or company like Quantus should not fall for this sort of thing. No, somebody it's called vishing by the way, where people do it over the phone.
01:48:43
Speaker 1: Right, because we're all over sharers. That's what a good radio producer will do. We'll find you because there will be breadcrumbs everywhere online. You know, you scroll through photos on Facebook or where you tag, find out a friend, send them a message and yeah, here's Richard's number. I will pass that on for you. One I was going to mention lost luggage. You can find it faster. The air tag is something we should.
01:49:04
Speaker 3: Have rand new air tag feature in there where you can go along and it's called share item location. So what happens is if you go to the airport and your bag has gone for whatever reason, you can now share that location with the airline and then they can go along and concentrate on finding where your bag is. Oh, good news, which means great news.
01:49:24
Speaker 1: I saw somebody else put an air tag in their dog collar, which I thought is a good idea too, so you never lose your dogs.
01:49:30
Speaker 3: I put it on a motorbike once.
01:49:32
Speaker 1: Did you lose your bike?
01:49:33
Speaker 3: No? I was selling the bike the time. See why the people are going for tess drives.
01:49:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point because they may just not return. How do we find you? If people want to have a home visit, head.
01:49:46
Speaker 3: Over to Adelaide tech guy dot com dot au.
01:49:48
Speaker 1: Always good to see you. Thank you for coming in, Richard Pasco, thanks to Harvey Norman, the computers, your technology experts.
01:49:55
Speaker 8: Five double A afternoons with leap Forest.
01:49:59
Speaker 1: To twenty five minutes to four. This is why we have the complete care live stream, Facebook and YouTube. Not only can you hear us on five double A, but you get to see us on our Facebook and our YouTube. And anytime I must have been I'm a sucker. And when the Bossy, can you feel in for Stacy for a few months. I said yes please, because it's interviews like this that I particularly wanted to do this because it's just so much fun to see them as well as hear them on the radio. And our own Sam Daddo five Double A z oone gets to play Rody on this because led Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti Live in Concert is making its world premiere at the Adelaide Guitar Festival one night only. It is an extravaganza. It's celebrating the fiftieth anniversary of the seminal led Zeppelin album from nineteen seventy five, Physical Graffiti, and we are delighted to have two of the greats, Warwick Cheetle and Kathleen Halleran here to play for us and to have a chat. Welcome to you both, lovely to see hello listeners. Thank you for coming in. I can't tell you how excited I am when you're bringing instruments. I've got to say so now, Warrick, if I can start with you first, you look like a guy who was around when Led Zep were on fire. I don't know what you mean, but yes, I say that with peace and love you know that.
01:51:14
Speaker 20: Yes, Look, I was lucky enough to have grown up with led Zeppelin and the release of their albums mainly from Leeds Up and four. Actually, yes, so I didn't really know them before then We're on a trip to Tasmania, walked into a record store and they said, hey, have a listen to this. Yes was led Zepplin her black Dog and I was hooked. So from then on be led upon fan.
01:51:31
Speaker 1: Now, Kathleen, you're a little younger, So when did led Zep come into your life? When we brought up in a household of rockers, how did it come into you?
01:51:39
Speaker 21: I actually wasn't brought up in a house out of rockers, but I think, I mean, I challenge you to find a single guitarist that wasn't influenced by Jimmy Page in their beginnings. And it wasn't the first led Zeppelin album I came across. But once I started, once I discovered those incredible guitar sounds and reffs, I was pretty I was. I was in for a deep dive. And probably around probably seventeen eighteen, it was the first time I heard this album and yeah, there's just There's just I still you know, I've been playing it all day with Dusty. We've been sort of having a rehearsal, and the detail and the intricacies in the music just continues to blow me away.
01:52:18
Speaker 1: We can we talk about Jimmy Page. He's like a musical version of White Line Fever. He looks like a kind of placid kind of guy and then becomes the greatest guitarist of all time.
01:52:28
Speaker 20: Yeah, the dragon on stage. He's an incredible player. It's not only is he a great blues player, but he's a really good acoustic folk player, and his writing is sensational and it's production that we produced all the albums. He was the key writer, yes, of the guitar riffs which the songs were all based upon. But what's quite incredible about Physical Graffiti is the layering of guitar that he has and the way in which he's used guitar as the anchor for the album in such a strong guitar riff album. It is a beautiful thing, that double album, and he's really explored all of his styles. So Jimmy Page is he is undoubted king. He's awesome guitar.
01:53:10
Speaker 1: Kathleen, do you have fomo like I? Do of wishing you'd seen ZEP live in their peak.
01:53:16
Speaker 21: Yes, have so many things, and that's in my absolute top.
01:53:20
Speaker 11: Of my list.
01:53:21
Speaker 1: See, I mean, it's nice that ac DC is still touring in their seventies and their eighties because at least we get a chance. But we just I mean, you see Jimmy Page pops up from time to time here and there. He does like a little appearance, and Robert Robert Plant does a lot, but he's sort of mellowed a bit in the stuff.
01:53:37
Speaker 20: So yeah, I know, probably you would have had burned out, but he's still doing it. He's still out there and performing and doing a great job. And John Bull Jones you still see him during occasionally with various artists, whether it's Foo Fighters or whoever he's weaking with.
01:53:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then of course John Bonhams the other member of the band who sadly no longer with it, but Jason his son, you see, he pops up from time to time in different bands and continues the legacy.
01:53:58
Speaker 20: And he's continuing with him is Jason Bonham led Zepp and Show around the United States, yep. And and he was like enough of course to play with the other three guys when they performed at the two concert. Yeah, just extraordinary, isn't it. It's great music, it's wonderfully written.
01:54:14
Speaker 1: So tell us about this show because I imagine when they come to you and say, hey, we want to do a guitar festival show about led Zepp, I imagine, hands are going, How did you get together? Because it's yourselves, Dusty, as you mentioned, Danny Leo's part of it. You've got some vocalists in there, You've got this is an electrifying show. Was it just hands up and let's go.
01:54:32
Speaker 20: Well, we've got an orchestra in there as well, so just to top it off, just to give it sim that's right. So what we look, what we thought we'd do is to because Physical Graffiti has the big song cash Me on Yes, with the orchestra, we thought, wouldn't it be great to be able to perform them that the Zeppelin show and then when we get to cash Mere and have the orchestra join us and then stay with the stay with the concert for the rest. And so we've been working to not just reduce the electric sounds and emulate the great riffs and those wonderful songs on Physical Graffiti but also to have the orchestra there as well, So it's been about orchestral writing and arranging and making sure that's all useful for the nights. It's a big job. There's a lot to bring together, but we're all lovers of the Zeppelin, so it's a masterpiece.
01:55:25
Speaker 1: It's eight minutes long, nine minutes long.
01:55:30
Speaker 20: Cash Me is awesome. It's an incredible and it's been used in so many sports and re releases around the world.
01:55:38
Speaker 1: It's funny. So I'm probably I'm not a die hard ZEP fan, but I like everyone else. Coming up through radio since I was a teenager, you're familiar with all of the hits. You know, every great song, And it was interesting. Sam and I were in the office earlier and we were running through some of the tracks of Physical Graffiti. There's a lot. I don't know, I'll be honest, because maybe there are more commercially successful songs that we've said over the time.
01:56:01
Speaker 20: What's really interesting about Physical Graffiti is that it's really a Zeppelin fans album, yes, and that's really because of Jimmy Page and what he brought to this album. It's really it's one of his master works, and so there are songs like songs like Cashmere but You're Right, led Zeppelin four with Black Dogs, stair to Heaven rock and Roll, and then other singles that they have, but Kashmi is the big song from this album. There's another song called ten Years Gone, which is.
01:56:30
Speaker 3: A you know.
01:56:33
Speaker 20: Unfortunately for led Zeppelin, when they released led Zeppelin four, stair Were to Heaven dominated the airwaves so much that everything else that followed didn't get the airplay. And so they had a song on the next album called The Rain Song, which they were hoping would be the next Stairway to Heaven, but it never got played and it's a gorgeous song. And then on this album there's a song called ten Years Gone, which they once again produced for that purpose, but it didn't get the airplay again because stair to Heaven was dominated and became such a and the album stayed in the charts for so many years.
01:57:04
Speaker 1: Well, its kind of got a life of its own. Stairway, didn't it. So of the Wayne's World era, where it was a running gag in the film of like No Stairway when you're a guitarist, like you guys walking into Derringer's which we want to thank Darringers and give them some loveau they lent us a guitar for this afternoon. When you walk into Darringers and people just want to pick up and play, it's like no stairway, You're just not allowed to play that riff.
01:57:27
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's the testament to a great song. It's a bit like Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple. Yeah, any one of those riffs that every guitarist wants to be able to play.
01:57:40
Speaker 1: So this show, which is on the thirteenth of September, it's part of the Adeli Guitar Festival at the beautiful Her Majesty's Theater, which is a great thrill for all of you.
01:57:47
Speaker 20: I'm sure it's a beautiful Then it's been renovated. It looks fantastic.
01:57:51
Speaker 1: Physical graffiti live in concerts. So you're doing the entire album first, then other famous the greatest hits. Yeah, that's the way we'll approach it.
01:57:59
Speaker 20: So we're going to start with the album from song one and take it through to the two, right through to the Inn, right through to Sick again at the end of the album.
01:58:08
Speaker 1: And what's cashmir about song six seven?
01:58:10
Speaker 20: Something like that's about six Yeah, that number six.
01:58:13
Speaker 1: There can we get a little and again, thank you for doing this for us. I can't tell you, And maybe it's because we're a talk station we don't play music. But anytime anyone with any talent walks in with a guitar or a bass guitar or any kind of musical instrument with a thrilled this is why we've got the live stream too, Facebook and YouTube, so you can check us out now thanks to complete care. Do you want to play a little bit for us, to give us a sample? I reckon we can play a couple of risks, yes please. I mean one of the things we could we could start with is maybe a little bit of Cashmere. Oh please? All right, here we go physical graffiti live in concert led Zeppelin thirteenth or September. Her majesty is this is warreck Cheetle Kathleen hallerin. You can see them on the live stream now playing a little bit of led Zeppelin's Cashmere.
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Speaker 20: So that's the key, main rift that runs through.
01:59:19
Speaker 1: And then it just builds and builds and there's a huge crescendo of so your orchestra would have oh yeah, everything you need to know.
01:59:28
Speaker 20: They've got a lot of room to move.
01:59:30
Speaker 1: Can you just give us another just run through anything you like. I'm happy to hear anything you like, black dog hole, lot of Love, stairway, anything you want to roll through, just to give you a little taste. And we can even see you on the Daringes guitar. That's another is beautiful thing.
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Speaker 20: They've got so many Zeppelin songs, is based on so many great riffs like and things like.
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Speaker 1: And uh so, who have you got doing vocals for this, because that's a that's a huge part of the song.
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Speaker 20: It's a huge part. Well, we've got We've got Sean who's going to be singing, Yes, that Sean Holldeny and Sky Comson Harris. So we're really lucky to have both of those vocalists involved in singing the bulk of the tunes.
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Speaker 1: That is so great, fantastic, that is so so great.
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Speaker 20: Powerhouse singers, our house singers. So there will be some of the best of songs that will be playing as well. I think we have to play still with the Heaven. I think we'll get into trouble if we don't. I think you have to, you get banished. I think if you don't, I.
02:01:10
Speaker 1: Would think so, but it's interesting. I'm not sure. Yeah, I wonder how true Zeppelin song or fans feel about that song. Almost when something becomes so successfully, you know, global, I think sometimes fans go, you know, that's that's the commercial, will leave that there, We love you know, cart it is interesting.
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Speaker 20: You know, I've played these songs a million times.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and they hard sorry to win? Are they hard? Technically?
02:01:37
Speaker 20: Are they? They're technically difficult sots to play because they're intricately written, and they're in odd time signatures like.
02:01:55
Speaker 1: You can tell you sat in your bedroom as a kid, as a young adult, as an older adult, playing and playing and playing and playing.
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Speaker 21: So so specific, aren't they. And rhythmically there's little changes you only notice it once you really sit down to get inside it. There's little odd meter changes and stuff right in there. So you can't just half learn this sort of stuff. You have to really dedicate a lot of time.
02:02:21
Speaker 1: Oh man, I would so love to just break out into the vocals. We kick off right now, No, no, no, and then Zeppelin fans will just turn off on mass it's excellent. So I mean, this is just a little taste of what people will experience. Thirteenth to September. Get onto the Adelaide Guitar Festival website, get your tickets. I imagine it'll sell out, yes, because well.
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Speaker 20: On the way there are still some good tickets left, but it's selling quite quickly, so yeah, it's going to be a sellout.
02:02:46
Speaker 1: And I always think too when we think about our audience. So this album's fifty years old, I know, incredible. So let's say you're in your early twenties, you're now in your mid seventies, yep, and you've probably been leveling loving Zep for fifty plus years. They're the kinds of people that you'll see when you look out into the audience. You'll see all ages.
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Speaker 20: That's what you'll see. You'll definitely see the lovers who grew up with Zeppelin, yes, and usually with their kids who might be now.
02:03:14
Speaker 1: And I think that's good parenting. I think you've got to, you know, play these kind of songs to your kids growing up so they get an appreciation of good music.
02:03:22
Speaker 20: It's incredible how many younger people go, well, I've grown up with it in the house twenty four to seven, so I know it. I know my kids certainly not.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Do you want to place anything on the way. Do we play a whole lot of love? Can you play just a riff of that as we go to the break. This is Warrick Cheat or Kathleen Halloran led Zeppelin Physical Graffiti Live in Concert, thirteenth of September. Thanks so much for coming in. Oh here we go. Look at this on the live stream, folks. If I was cornsy, I'd be singing. He would have jumped in. I'm not brave enough to do it. I'm not broving it. Good to see you, worried. Thanks for coming in, Kathleen. Lovely to see you as well. A Guitar festival dot com dot au led Zep Physical Graffiti Live in Concert her Madge thirteenth or September. Sports Show is not too far away, Tim Ginnifer, Scott Campberelli sitting in for Steven Rowe. We'll find out what's coming up on the big show in just one second. Peter says he's got a nineteen seventy four sharp stereocassette deck an early eighties tac reel to reel three motor. Both in good conditions. Sounds like you're putting in my marketplace. Beak well, done. Mark from Para Hills says he loves led Zeppelin, never seen them, but he has seen the essay Zep Boys. This will be a great show If he loves led Zeppelin the music of including orchestra. Why would you not get along to Physical Graffiti live in concert thirteenth or September at her Madge. You're a music fan, Scott umm.
02:05:00
Speaker 11: I like music.
02:05:01
Speaker 22: I'm not very good at knowing names of songs or bands, but I do like listening to music. And you know, I don't necessarily have a specific genre, but depending on the environment that we're in.
02:05:13
Speaker 1: Yes, you were. You were a music before a game, pump up kind of guy. No, did you have that headphones back? And Danger listens to like Disney songs, Frozen and Lion King.
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Speaker 22: That's what happens when you have kids. Charlie Cameron and Eddie Betts were I know they were like country and Western. They listened to that.
02:05:31
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, now Charlie plays country roads every time.
02:05:34
Speaker 22: Have the facilities we have the old Sony discman back in the day, a.
02:05:38
Speaker 1: Big boomboxing ninety five as your or have the iPods. No, that's awesome, Big Dave sport.
02:05:45
Speaker 22: What's coming up, Well, we're going to speak to a couple of the Walla Wallabies players that are representing Australia and New Zealand in the British lines.
02:05:53
Speaker 1: You would be the kind of guy who would just love any sport. You want to see elite sport at the elite level.
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Speaker 22: So I'm looking forward and they actually into the studio, so it might not be enough room.
02:06:04
Speaker 3: A couple of big units.
02:06:05
Speaker 1: So I think I like union better than I like League. I'm not a league, but I love that Wallabies and the rugby union boys. Well on that as well.
02:06:13
Speaker 22: We're going to talk to Scott Bley because Game three of the State of Origin tonight so decided. Game three deciders, so that's going to be a big one because news couple of one.
02:06:24
Speaker 1: Just seems to stop. It's like to stop, roll back go, stop, rollback go, whereas Union it's just like just barrel through.
02:06:30
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's a different game, there's no question, and it's probably a little bit more.
02:06:36
Speaker 3: Tactics to it.
02:06:37
Speaker 1: I would imagine David Camps out on the WI.
02:06:40
Speaker 22: Yes, I'm looking forward to the State of Origin tonight. That's one thing I do look forward to in that so that'll be an interesting ones because Cameron Munster is the captain of Coueens and his dad unfortunately passed away during the week, so he's come back in the camp.
02:06:54
Speaker 1: New South Wales has got.
02:06:55
Speaker 22: A couple of injury concerns, but it sounds like they're going to play, so big build up for that one. We speak to a great mate, Jimmy Bartel and gives us a bit of wisdom and about what's happening in the AFL circles.
02:07:11
Speaker 1: A couple of death threats, a couple of ye coach on that's crazy. It's just people are mentally ill, is what people are there? Or they're just they're just stupid.
02:07:22
Speaker 22: One of the two in the world that we live in now, there's just no need for I mean, at the end of the day, it's a game of foot sport and he's trying the best he can, so there's no no need for that at all.
02:07:32
Speaker 20: So I thought it'sss.
02:07:33
Speaker 22: He handled it really well today in his press.
02:07:34
Speaker 1: Conference and we've got where where are they now? Yes you remember this, but are you allowed to tease this? David heint Oh, good play Port Adelaide West Coast Eagles Freemantle state play, great start, plays Millions medal Premiership player at Westcontina's Nails.
02:07:52
Speaker 22: So next team mate of Timmy's as well, so I'm sure they will reminisce a fair bit over there.
02:07:56
Speaker 1: He always nominates people that talk about him. Have you noticed that?
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Speaker 22: Well, if he goes down that track, I'll be disappointed. And then we've also got a little wrap up with Matilda Garrett for the Thunderbirds game this weekend for them, so coming up.
02:08:10
Speaker 1: So yeah, big show, we love Tilly. Good on you, Scott, Thank you? Does anyone call you? Scott? It feels very really and I think I'm the only one going with Camparelli. Everyone's sort of stretching it out now Campo really? Am I wrong or right? You're which one?
02:08:24
Speaker 3: Are you?
02:08:24
Speaker 1: Camporelly? Well, Campo really is the proper work. Thank you, Tim.
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Speaker 3: Next