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Wake your ass up.
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We are live and uncut.
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Yeah, we back again with another one, man.
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It's the Wake Your Ass Up Podcast, man.
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And Rbok ENT, man, we here with another one, man.
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Today I'm here with a very, very, very, very special guest, man.
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A Bay Destrian, entrepreneur.
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One of the best creatives that we got when it comes to this beef making producing.
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When it comes to making hits.
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Classics.
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Putting on for the Bay Area in every way that we know how.
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Who we got today?
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Man, P.
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Low.
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Come on, man.
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Come on, pleasure, bro.
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Pleasure, man.
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Pleasure, bro.
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It's an honor today to have you, P.
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Low.
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Nah, nah, thank you, man.
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Thanks for having me, man.
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You've been doing a lot of great things, man.
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But let's start from the beginning, man.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's tell the people where you're from and how you was upbringing.
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Man, you know, I grew up in like Panot.
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Really like my older brother, my older sister, and my dad really like put me onto a lot of different kind of music.
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And I just like I had a different different kind of love for music, which made me like want to like create my own music.
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And that really started with my older brother like bringing home like a beat making program from youth radio.
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So my brother went to youth radio in high school.
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And uh shout out to youth radio, you know.
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And really he brought that beat making program home and I really just like figured out how to use it because it's man, I had a diff like a different love for it, and I really just wanted to make my own.
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So really started making music like or started making beats around like middle school, maybe like seventh, eighth grade, and I was like writing and writing in the notebooks.
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I was like listening to hella like like old Jay-Z, old Kanye like instrumentals, and I would just like write to them, you know, just just to like exercise and shit like that.
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But really, once I got to high school, that's when I met, that's when I met I am sued.
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And that's really where where me we met, and that's really like how we even started like making music together.
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So let's let's go back a little bit.
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Let's let's rewind time.
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So you're Filipino, right?
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Yeah, Filipino.
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So you speak Tagalog outside of speaking English.
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No, no, I I just only speak English.
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I yeah, I only speak English.
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I only speak English.
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Which you understand Tagalog.
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I understand, understand Tagalog, yeah, yeah.
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So, you know, by you being raised in the Bay Area, have a Filipino upbringing outside of, you know, the Bay Area culture.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How was that being a kid being, you know, diverse?
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Because you can be able to go to the Philippines with your family.
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You can actually be around the Bay Area and keep, you know, the atmosphere of the culture here.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I mean, I think like everybody knows there's like there's Hello Filipinos in the Bay.
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Right.
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And and just in in the Bay in in general, there's it's such a diverse place, you know, with with all different kinds of races and backgrounds and cultures.
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And it really, I think it makes this like special, like gumbo of of of type of people.
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Like I feel like Bay Area people, we all like worldly people.
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By default, by how everyone kind of like grew up with everyone.
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Facts.
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You know, like that automatically makes us like worldly people.
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That's why you see people like, you feel me, like someone like Marshawn.
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He could go in any setting and just be Marshawn.
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Yeah, so and be himself, because he's just naturally a worldly person just from where he was raised, you know, and I feel like we all have that.
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So man, like growing up here is you know, it's it's it's it's something to really be proud about.
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And I feel like everybody should be proud of proud of like growing up here.
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So was your older brother connected with N1 Promo?
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Any any sense of messing with that?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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My older brother, he he was really came up through through youth radio.
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Okay.
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Or with like 108k, trackadimics, like my brother came up under them, like we all, me suit and all of them really came up under them.
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Facts, facts.
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Uh shouts out to the honorable.
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And we came up like under like the diligence, Dami, J Ant, Frank, Prank said, like, we all came up under that.
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Like Eric.
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Like, yeah, like you feel me?
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Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, like all of that.
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Go Dave, like we was like, me and Sue were like the little homies of that.
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And that's really like where like our music journey caught started.
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Cause we used to be like pulling up today events when that shit was popping, like Diligence, Go Dave, the pack, like when we was in high school, so that was like, we really been in this shit for since all the way back then, you know.
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Like I was like, what, like round 11, 12, and 07?
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Yeah, they're like, yeah, like around like 07, 2006, 2007, 2008, like all of that shit.
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Around the time when the wing team A's, yeah, yeah, A's, yeah, like, yeah, like yeah, we was, yeah, we was around, we was around fucking around, like going to functions and all that type shit.
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So how how was HBK created?
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Because we have so many creative people that's involved that circle, that's it's crazy.
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That's one of the that's one of the biggest unique super group we had in a while.
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Yeah, yeah, like all like the the HBK like family tree is like it's crazy.
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But really, it really started when when me and me and Sue met in in high school.
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And we w uh because at first really Sue was a producer too.
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I mean, Sue pr started really producing, but he also had it like like aspired to rap too.
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So when we were making beats for like people around, like, you know, people that were rapping in school, they necessarily didn't want me and Sue rapping because, you know, we were making the beats.
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So they were like, nah, we don't want y'all like rapping.
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So y'all do y'all just like stick to making beats, you know what I'm saying?
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Facts.
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I went through the same shit.
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People just want your beats.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, man, I'm dope as an artist, man.
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No, no, exactly.
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And that kind of like forced our me and Sue's hand to be like, man, man, not you feel me, like, fuck all that.
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We like we'll just we'll make our own shit.
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And that's really where like at least like the early stages of us really just like coming together and really like creating HBK.
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So at the beginning of that, when you guys first started making beats, who were some of the artists that you guys got your hands on to be able to give these beats to that actually rapped on the beats?
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Shit, like, I mean, diligence, like the diligence w were like some of our first really like like what I would think like a like some placements, especially like in the Bay Area, like scope.
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Shit, Eric the Jerk.
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Eric the Jerk.
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I mean, Eric the Jerk was like he was our first, I would say like majorly distributed like like placement.
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Like that, like we were able to go to fucking Best Buy and buy the Eric the Jerk CD and have like our beats on there.
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Shout out Eric.
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And then too, that's crazy because at that time, that's when we always used to buy the CDs just to look and see who, you know, yeah.
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Yeah, nah, for real.
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And I mean, yeah, for like for us at that time, that was like, that was everything to us, because like, you know, we we was we was just kids.
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We were just trying to get our shit out there.
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And for someone like Eric to like take a chance on just some kids, you know, that that was hella big for us to see our like our names in like a like a booklet that we could go to Best Buy and buy it, you know, that shit was hella big for us.
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Shout out Eric, man.
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So Eric was part of being the first top artist to be dealing with.
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So around the time, where did it come about?
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Because I heard the story of somewhat about you being a savior for Dane for the act right beat.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, I mean uh Dane put that put that put that play together.
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Yeah, so he was telling me when he came in somewhat that Mustard has sent them some beats.
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Yeah.
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And it didn't fit where they were trying to go.
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He made a phone call to you saved the day.
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You came with this unique barrier sound.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And we got the the act right.
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Yeah.
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Having that placement at that time with Yo Gotti, you know what I'm saying, YG, and being a Northern California producer, how did that feel?
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Oh man, that that was amazing.
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I mean, yeah, shout out to Dame for even like making the play.
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Like, that was like the first, like, that was actually the first beat that I sent him.
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Like, out of the pack.
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That was the first beat that was in that pack.
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But yeah, I mean, for for for me, that was that was like another like step, because I feel like Yo Gotti was already like doing his shit.
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Like he was like already a like a legend in the South.
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And like for me to be a part of like his story, that was super dope.
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Cause I remember when we were shooting the video in the East, me and him, this is like we have first met because Dame had like put us together.
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And uh he was like, yo, this is like my that this record right here, this is the first time I ever got played like on New York radio.
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He was like, I I like, you feel me?
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I never never got played on New York radio.
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Like this, this record was is like special.
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I was like, oh damn, that's what's up.
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Like, and it was dope, like them coming out here and shooting the video and like being a part of that, and like the whole bay came out to you feel me, like to the video.
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That shit was the moment, you know.
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And just just to be able to like create that and bring those type of moments and bring those all those special people to the bay was was like, you know, to me that's an honor.
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So throughout that time and shit, like you tuned and start making a heavy weight with yourself as becoming an artist.
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So like 2012 you became this or top 12, right?
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Yeah, it was yeah, it was like the uh the freshman.
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Oh well, was that 2012?
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Was that 2012?
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Yeah, it must have been yeah, around that time.
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Or or yeah, yeah, it was like maybe 2013.
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13, 2014, around that.
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Yeah, I think around that time.
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I think it was 12.
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Yeah, was it was it 12?
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Yeah, Juice Sage the Gemini, DB General.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, uh well, I think the I think D B and M, but they were like earlier, and then like there was like, I think we were like a couple classes later, but I do, it was like me G, Sage, and some other people that was on the like that was on that freshman list.
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But yeah, I mean, j just to be able to like to get any type of recognition, I feel like is I think it's hard for any artist, you know what I'm saying?
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And we're really just trying to like be able to like cut through everything.
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And especially at that time, like I feel like the internet was such a like a new thing.
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So if if I feel like any type of like action that we was getting, we was just happy to be getting it, you know.
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We were we were juiced.
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Man, you you are a heavy trendsetter, you know.
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You have even from the young California situation, too, like you have done a lot of great things and a lot of great deeds to the culture, you know, from LA back this way, like how is it like taking in LA like a second home like the Bay Area?
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Because I see that you do a lot of work that way towards this way, and then a lot of work towards that way.
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Like, how is it, you know, bringing the coach together as one?
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Yeah, man, I mean, yeah, like I got a lot of love for LA.
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Like, you know, I I done made a lot of like dope relationships out there.
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I le I I learned, I I and I met so many dope people out there, you know.
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I really got a lot of gain from just like being in the actual like music industry, like especially on the songwriting, producing side, like, and learning the ins and outs of how like big records get made.
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And and really like being able to like take the uh like take those things that I'm learning from all these different artists, all these different producers, all these different songwriters, bringing it to what I got going on and be able to share it with the the people around me and my community that's you know that that's that's around.
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Like that's essentially what I do it for it, you know.
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Like I want to be able to like get the game, you know, extract the game from whoever and give it back to our people, you know, especially here.
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Because like I feel like we're still trying to like build that here, like the the music industry of the bay.
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Like we're slowly building that, especially with, you know, I think Gazi and what what Gazi and Empire is doing, like we're building that here.
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So to be able to like know the ins and outs, like learn some ins and outs of how breakers are getting made and songwriters and all that stuff, like being able to bring that back here and like show people how like how it's actually done.
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You know, it's not just like you know, the the the it does happen sometimes where yeah, you just might pull up a beat and just go crazy.
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But if you really understand how the like songs are made and you know these big songs, it's not just it's not by accident.
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A lot of these songs aren't by accident.
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And a lot of people, I think, in our area don't understand that the proper protocol when it comes to creating records and hits, that it's multiple hands involved.
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Yeah.
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I think that when it comes to the infrastructure of business, I think it's the lack of knowledge would have us kind of misconstrued of understanding the fine line of where it comes to business.
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Yeah.
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You know, because with us being so independent, we lose the sight of the business side of the independent side.
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Because we don't think as in the longer part like that that brings longevity.
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You know, like with you being involved with things like that, it's easier for you to be like, okay, with you knowing the businesses, you'd be like, oh, I can give my boy a credit if he just says this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But yeah, where we come from, people don't understand that.
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They're like, what you mean?
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But that's how you keep your circle of conference of people attached to the game to where we all eat together.
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Well, well, yeah, one thousand percent.
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Because yeah, like the there's there's there's so many people that that I know that are h hella talented, you know what I'm saying?
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And they're not necessarily getting utilized in the ways they could be, you know.
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Yeah, you you might not you might not be an artist or whatever, whatever, but your your pants still work.
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Facts.
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You could be over here writing for for this person, or be you're writing for this person, and still being able to create just in another lane, you know, another form.
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And it's and and the it's not, you know, it's not a bad thing.
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It's like shit, get you like the the the point of being in the music business is to do business.
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Facts.
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You know, so like I think being able like finding ways to you like, yeah, that's the type of game that I'm trying to like even bring back.
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So it's because like there's so many talented people out from out here that that aren't necessarily like utili getting utilized.
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Right.
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And uh yeah, I want to like help bring that back.
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Facts.
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How do you feel about like the state of hip hop of today with things changing into streaming and being from physical sales?
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Because when you came in the game, it was physical sales.
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Yeah, it was like, yeah, it was like, yeah, you was like printing up mixtapes and handing out mixtapes and you know, really I mean, I I think I think it's it's it's it's gonna like keep changing.
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Like I feel like it's always like I I wouldn't say I feel any type of way about it.
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I think it's like I'm just trying to find my best way to adjust to it, because I could yeah, think it's like I came from that, like that hand to hand, like being able to like pass out mixtapes at Hilltop Mall and people like be being in front of Rasputin, like passing out your mixtape, like and then going into like the internet age where like you know the blog it was like the blog era and then now it's like out of the blog era there's like the streaming era and even now, so it's like now it's just like full fully out algorithmic, you know, shit.
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So it's like just man, just I think it's interesting.
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I think I think it's I think it's a challenge for for anyone to try to find their way into it now.
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Like I think discovery discovery is like probably uh what people are trying to do, get discovered.
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And I think I'm personally like trying to like just really keep doing what I'm doing and just like focusing on that, focusing on the the like the people that fuck with me and growing that and yeah, you continue continuing to grow that.
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So through the name that you have built for yourself and having a a great atmosphere around you, what does team mean to you?
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Oh like you saying just like my team.
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Like, yeah, oh man, everything.
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Everything, bro, man, like like I came I came from the bat like a like a a sports background, like I play basketball up until like junior college.
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So I understand like the type of like what it really takes to win in in in any form, you know what I'm saying?
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You need you need everybody that's involved to to be able to play a role and do it be be a star in their role.
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Not everyone's gonna be the star, but everyone can be a star in their role.
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And and really just like understanding that and really finding people that truly understand that because I I I don't know where I would even like be with without my team.
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Like I'd probably just be be a chicken with my head cut off, you know, and and being able to like trust them is just as much as they trust me, you know?
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When they feel super strongly about something, like I I'm receptive to that.
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And when I'm feel super strongly about something, they're really receptive to that too.
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So it's like I think it's like just like in any relationship, you know, trust us go both ways, but I think the you're like your team and the people you surround yourself with are like that's probably the most important shit in this, is because it's like you're gonna I think one of the most like important things that people don't necessarily like that take that people take for granted in music is like navigating navigating this, navigating the the the game.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like navigating the music industry because like yeah, like this shit is this is one it's not easy, and then another one it's like it's just cut though, it's treacherous.
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You know, so like you really need like the right the people around you to like, you know, to like oh we going we we finna turn right right here.
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We're finna go left, we finna go this way.
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You feel me?
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Like you need all you need to be able to like have those people that give you that that real like grounded decisions and not not necessarily based off basing your decisions off emotions or you know, and like just really being about your business.
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Facts.
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You know?
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Facts.
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So, you know, due to the process of life of things that you deal with, how is your mental health due to all of this stuff?
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Man, you know, I man, end of the day, like I'm just grateful.
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You know, like I'm grateful to be like alive and you know, like have my my head on my shoulders, you know, like things can always be better, things can always be worse, but you feel me, like I'm just overall grateful just to be able to, you know, have a chance to express myself and and really just like keep putting this music out and help as many people as I can along the way.
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Like that's what I'm truly grateful for.
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So like uh the you know, it's ups and downs in in every situation.
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So like just being able to like try my best to stay even killed through everything.
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Man.
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Due to Mac Drake not being around and you have his mom, Mac Wanda, being around, how is it like building a relationship with somebody as special as her and just even giving to see her vision through her son's eyes?
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, Wanda's Wanda's super cool.
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We we've been able to like talk over a text message.
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We we should be going to dinner.
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Going to dinner soon.
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I want to just take her out to dinner and just like celebrate the celebrate the Drake stuff and really just like be being able to like celebrate Dre at at at like together. 'Cause I I feel like that moment was it's is super special like to me and I know it's super special to her to to be able to see her son really like get his flowers like in the you know, the whole spirit of music because I feel like he's done so much not only for Bay Ray music, but he's inspired so many people across the world, you know, and I feel like now he's just getting his just due.
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Especially with, you know, the the the too hard for the radio shit.
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So uh shout out to Wanda.
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Man, so I seen bits and pieces of like I seen it was a clip where for for Fukari had, he had hit you and the other producer was like overseas or something.
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Yeah.
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Came from like with a creative sound.
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How did that shit feel to be included to do music business and to just do a creation with the biggest artist in the world?
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There's no artist that we ever heard of that's bigger than this guy at the time of living right now.
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He's the Michael Jackson pretty much to have someone as such yourself to bring this sound to the world for us.
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Yeah with him how did that fucking bro like surreal to be honest like I I feel like I feel like you know I think if you're creating music in this day and age like I feel like any everybody's a a fan of Drake.
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You know like if if if you're making music in this day and time like you have somehow been influenced by Drake in in some type of form like whether you want to say it or not.
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So to be able to like like you're saying like create with like the biggest artist in the game and especially to be able to like honor Dre at the same time like that was like that literally meant the world to me like man I got like I got Dre tatted on me you know like Dre did so much for me just as a as a as a person.
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Like he it like his music gave me like so much like self-confidence and self-worth like and just to be able to do that with the biggest artist and honor him alongside with someone like Drake like that was that was everything.
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You know like that that's that was a dream come true to be honest.
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When I heard this shit I'm like damn you got peel on that shit I was bro I was so happy bro I felt like I was part of the production bro because it felt so good for us to family be a part of the contribucy of creating without feeling like somebody take it.
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Yeah yeah you know what I'm saying no 1000% every time something is created for you we feel like it's taken it's taken so to actually feel and it's somebody I know and see and hear that shit felt more than the world like I I felt like like damn like it was amazing bro and I'm I'm so proud of you bro just to overcome these obstacles of what we come in today from the transition of where music happens.
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Yeah well well 1000% like many people keep going bro like you you you a heavy vessel to this game bro man I appreciate it man to the whole entertainment itself you know what I'm saying and it's an honor bro just to have you in those rooms to be able to come give this game and this acknowledgement to us to be able to share to our people.
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Yeah no exactly like yeah like man like I I think that's something that I've always like like strive to be like I want to be in these rooms like waving the flag for where we're from like because like I feel like yeah like you saying like we never like we always feel like left out of when shit's happening but that was also one of the the things where like I like I wanted to move get moved to LA so I could be in those spots and representing us and like at any way I could and and and be able to like soak as soak up as much game as I can and bring it back.
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But like man like to to what you're saying like yeah like it was dope to be a part of that because like he he's such a student of the game too you know what I'm saying he's been he's been showing love to Drace years and years and sh showing love to the Bay for years and years.
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He knows this like where we're from is a is is a cultural hub for the for the world it's just a true cultural hub like man like if you really like we'd be kind of like I feel like we'd be kind of like sleep we be like sleeping we'd be sleeping on ourselves like we'd be sleeping on ourselves like man like so much not just not just even music you know what I'm saying like just innovation in the world like everything comes from here.
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Facts like you like like like any like you could literally name anything that's changed like the game the game it came from here or it has ties to here.
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:58.079
I seen I've seen you breaking that down on one of your episodes before you was talking about the Uber bro like everything bro like every everything.
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We we we're gonna say man it's it's crazy like I was talking to uh Mike Denton uh I don't know yeah like he's like he's like a he's my he's like my master shout out to Mike Dent one of those he was telling me he was he was telling me that auto tune was created at Stanford University you feel me we like that's where he was like man we we were doing testing for that shit like back in the day that's where we be playing our shit like man like we we really like we gotta like we really gotta like we like we we have that pride you feel me we have that pride but we can we can't like we gotta really like man we us you feel me like we gotta be able to like stand on that right you know what's so crazy about that shit bro when we go outside right when we go to the gas station bro you got Shields Chevron and PM they all across the street from each other but they never tell you don't go fuck with him don't go fuck with them Nah for sure but it's crazy in the music industry of our culture we only act like it's one bag.
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Nah there's multiple bags so many bags out here for us to go to but we always act like it's one bag and that's the I think that's the frustration with it all for people to understand it's multiple avenues just find yours.
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Yeah yeah yeah it's it's multiple avenues like yeah like it's like I was talking about earlier like man like maybe some some people aren't necessarily meant to be artists.
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You feel me?
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Some people are meant to be songwriters.
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You feel me?
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Like bro you could go find that bag you could go write a song right now that'll change your whole life you feel me but it's not necessarily you but it's like it's your creation like get it get out the way of that of that you feel me like some feelings get in your bag.
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You know like bro like man like I didn't wrote I done wrote some shit that's still like you feel me you will probably people don't even know I wrote that still getting me paid you feel me?
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:15.279
Hold on hold on hold on time out time out time out I heard you say this shit a couple times you just slip through so you writing too?
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Yeah like I'm I'm writ I'm songwriting for like different people and like I've written pop songs and all different type of shit you feel me like I'm just creating bruh like you feel me not everything just comes funnels through the Pillow thing like sometimes like yeah like Bro you a real you a real you're a real creator bro yeah bro like I do this shit.
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You're a creator director.
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Yeah like I like I like I like I like like I make music like every day but if I'm not like moving around and like doing shit I'm creating.
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You know I'm whether it's like doing song ideas, hook ideas, ref ide references and shit to like pitch to other people and you know like we do like we doing that shit.
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Like we we not just like we we don't like fake do this shit we really do this shit.
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We make this music and this me that this music has been good to us.
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You feel me?
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This is what needs to be heard to our culture that don't just concentrate in one bag get in multiple bags wear multiple hats yeah you gotta innovate yourself throughout and through in too you know don't get stagnated a lot of times we get so stagnated that we lose focus and we blame people for our own failures.
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Yeah yeah 1000% like if I was just like just focusing on like P-Lo the artist I wouldn't have been able to do something with Drake.
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You feel me?
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But at at that time I had to be like okay I gotta be P-Lo the producer at that time you know like I'm I'm I'm like figuring out how I could play my position all the time in any situation.
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Like I want to be of service to to any situation.
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How I how I can like add to something regardless of what it is like you know I want to be of service to any situation.
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Like I don't want to just to serve me all the time like how can I like serve any situation?
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Like that's what I feel like has been giving me that's given me the longevity in this music.
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Like I I I've been damnating shit for like 15 plus years.
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You feel me?
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And that's and I feel like that's been to me being able to like be of service to any situation that I that I'm in.
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Whether it's like knowing that it's not like it's it's not my like not everything's the end all be all right.
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You feel me?
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Like if I go make this if I well just like I want to go make this beat for Drake that's not gonna be the last beat I ever make.
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You feel me?
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Like I'm gonna go create some more and that's you feel me like it's not the end all be all like knowing and you have to know that like you gotta just keep going keep pushing.
00:32:50.960 --> 00:33:06.000
Would you tell younger artists it's okay to be a fan of somebody because a lot of times we hear people say oh they fanned out or you fanned out but the fan would help you be successful in life.
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Yeah and a lot of us come from being fans of somebody yeah yeah no 1000% I mean if if you make music like you are a fan of somebody you feel me you were fan you like you you you're a fan you feel me and that's that's not a bad thing.
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It's like man like end of the day like people people be so scared to show love.
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Like bro show some love like you don't never know what that could do.
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You feel me?
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Like man like you could have a like a pure interaction with somebody but man when I see him bro he he showed me some genuine love and you don't never know what that could lead to you know and not not in like a way of like you know but just like relation like building a relationship with somebody like that I feel like that's always like especially if if you're a fan of somebody but hey bro I fuck with your shit man keep pushing but keep doing your thing.
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Like that ain't is is that that ain't you feel me that don't take no that don't take no skin off your sh off your shit you feel me like it's just being solid.
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Like you know but I feel like in general that's like people don't want to like put their ego to the side for that type of shit.
00:34:16.319 --> 00:34:28.559
You know like if if I'm a fan of you I'll I'll like uh you feel me I'll DM you hey bro I fuck with your shit much love like or if I see you like hey bro I fuck with your shit if I see you in public or see someone hey bro I fuck with your shit.
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I know you are much love.
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Keep pushing keep doing your thing if you could tell the young men of today that's you know might got the talent but leading yourself in the wrong direction but you know probably got the earth to try to be there but they just not arrived around people what type of advice could you give them man I think shit surround tr try to f try to be around like minded people people that's trying to do the same thing that you trying to do.
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:06.160
You trying to make some music you trying to, you know, level up your life like you should try to be around people that are trying to do that.
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And it's and and it's sometimes hard.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Cause like sometimes you gotta like let go of friends, let go of family members.
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You feel me?
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Cause they not on that same shit you want.
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And that's it's cool and then that's okay.
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You feel me?
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:26.960
That's one thing about life is like shit you really got like some shit you gotta let go.
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So some things are like are just some people some people are seasons in your life and sometimes seasons be over.
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And it's it's no like ill will no bad shit it's like hey I'm trying to go this way if you're not trying to go this way you you hold you hold me back and it's it's no disrespect to nobody.
00:35:46.240 --> 00:36:10.080
You feel me but like you everyone everyone's in control of their own their own life and it's like what life do you necessarily want to live like do you want to like be able to like blame your your your your failures on other people or do you want to like blame it like take that accountability on yourself.
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It's like no the reason why my life is how it is is because of me.
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Like whether it's good or bad you you feel me like I want to be old like I wanna be always in control of my own destiny.
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Like like and that's you know that's who you surround yourself with and then I think that's where it starts is like who you surround yourself with.
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:41.040
If you could tell the younger P Love one thing and you was looking at him right now in the mirror, what would you tell him?
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Man I would just tell him to continue to trust yourself.
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Like just continue to trust yourself Yeah yeah keep keep going and trust yourself like yeah I I I'll say that so what with everything that you have accomplished within this time span what do you see yourself in the next year and what do you want for yourself in the next year?
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:13.920
Man, I I want to just continue to grow wherever wherever God allows me to grow.
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You know what I'm saying I want to keep pushing I want to keep keep progressing in in in in any in in all my endeavors that I have right now like I want to just keep keep moving those moving those things along I know a lot of a lot of I've been working on a lot of things and a lot of things like take time to like really like grow legs and really like build foundations for a lot of things but man I just want to continue to you know keep my foot on the gas and keep progressing and keep pushing forward.
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Well you know at this time we like to give the gold bars and you know the homage and the flowers while you hear while you can smell them you know one thing I tell my guests and my people I never want to be the person that waits till somebody passes away to let them know how I feel why they are you know why they're gone.
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Tell them why they're alive, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:23.680
So I, you know, I thank you bro for contributing over 15 years part of your life into this game, risking your life night after night going out, putting yourself on these stages and going to these different cities and venues and all these different things at times where it ain't guaranteed that you can make it in or out no matter what type of atmosphere it is.
00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:42.560
You know, if it can be a plane car trains automobiles whatever it may be the atmosphere whatever but you doing it and you you putting on a heavy you know D for our culture for yourself for your family you know to see a better outcome a better change uplifting things they're powerful the wisdom that you're putting out with great energy.
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Yeah you know what I'm saying that's something that I dearly take in heavily you know because a lot of times we don't have that shit is always around some type of fucked up stigma that we only get it you know what I'm saying so to have people like yourself that always keeping a good energy like I've never not seen you on on some great term of the table where it's bad.
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Yeah it's never bad.
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Yeah it's never bad man shut out cam too shout out cam shout out cam it's never bad it's it's it's just it's a special moment bro just to have you here today it's to say thank you bro appreciate it you know what I'm saying and you know just to have you here in this seat because it's crazy because this this is this is a secret that you might even know.
00:39:28.480 --> 00:40:09.360
Yeah so my middle brother is best friends with your sister for real they've been best friends since I was in middle school yeah wow wow so my middle brother is Tate McKenzie okay okay okay okay yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah I'm familiar yeah man shout out my sister too it's it's an honor you know just to have you here and our our relationship built on our own yeah at the time and thank you for always taking liking into me my son my company just giving me time to even understand that like bro motherfuckers it ain't where you from it's where you're going.
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Yeah I'm saying and I always appreciate that that you never not show love come get handshakes or who you will you good you got duty with you would have come yeah I take heed to all of that you know and I thank you for that bro thank you for being a like-minded person bro thank you for keep opening and keep opening and keep opening up doors as you do you know is there any way that any artist can get to you that might want to you know do business on production or anything how can I reach you man shit hit me up on Instagram man like it I like I'll be going through my DMs all the time just to like like you know see what people talking about.
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Like that's even how I you know it's crazy that's even how I met Cari Like he was just he would just DM me like all the time and I'd be like who the fuck is DMing me this?
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And like I one day I clicked it and I was like oh I was like damn you help you hard as fuck like yeah so like yeah I'll be I'll be going through my DMs like I'm I'm not one of those people like I'm I'm I'm constantly looking for people like like I'm always you know looking out for the try to find the next generation you know and I feel like that's something that's always like been like good to me too so like just like embracing the new like because the man there's so many talented people out there in the world and especially and in the Bay like man like I think me s being in LA like we we tried to make our like studio or like our studios up in uh out in LA we're trying to make that like a like a barrier hub for you know people that are in the Bay that are coming to LA you could probably ask any any artist that's been that's from the Bay.
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AJN did tell me hell a time yeah like like like we yeah like man like any and you guys any artist that's from the Bay like if they hey P I'm in LA man come through the studio just come kick it just come do whatever you feel me just come through you feel me just just just just come kick it like come feel some Bay energy out here because yeah like LA is not like you know LA's a treacherous place you feel me if you if if you get like get around some wrong wrong shit you feel me but yeah we we like we I I love to keep that door open and just I'll offer that space for you know Bay Air people coming down to LA and you getting their feet set getting their feet planted out there.
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So yeah man like and like like you're saying man I appreciate you having me because like man I've been seeing seeing y'all put push you feel me y'all been pushing so it's like man like I I any anybody that's pushing I'm come on I'm fucking with it like that that that's the type of energy I'm on like if I see you pushing I'm I'm fucking with you.
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You feel me like I I I I I love the energy I love what y'all doing and man I want to just continue to support.
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Keep going bro congratulations to on the outside lands performance go break the stage and put it in the city yeah yeah we have to I see you got this exclusive ass cable cart ride shit.
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Yeah yeah you be coming up with some dope ass concepts do Cal A be coming up with it's the team man yeah it's like yeah it's like yeah Cal A be fucking with shout out to shout out to Cal Cala man like one of the dopest motherfucking managers out for sure bro get to know if y'all don't know man active management man get y'all homework up man these guys do some of the best work on the ground in the air and on the back end man Cal hey if y'all don't know y'all better use it he still make beats too he done that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying don't sleep on don't sleep on Calais that's what I'm saying y'all don't sleep on the active he be sleeping on himself too I'll be like we got come to the studio he just be he just be busy on this management shit.
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Yeah you feel me but I mean yeah like man like just like I was saying earlier man like without the team man like I don't know I don't know where I'd be man like these guys like JR Calais will stretch you know the the these these guys uh that are like I've been with for years and years and uh shut out will man shut out stretch man the you know especially as a like I feel like as a creative like you want to do so much and you know it's like they're able to like keep me level headed because like sometimes I'm like overly ambitious sometimes you can be overly ambitious with with a lot of things and that's that's good too but sometimes you know there's times that you do have to be like realistic in what you can't can and can't do.
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You know so it's like being able to have that balance is is is is very special.
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So shout out the team man the team the team the team is everything man shout out to the guys man we we had a dope ass dope ass interview man we got one of the best the dopest the greatest to come producer from Northern California California itself man P with the dads to the low at the end man come on yeah yeah yeah
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And Rbok ENT, man, we here with another one, man.
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Today I'm here with a very, very, very, very special guest, man.
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A Bay Destrian, entrepreneur.
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One of the best creatives that we got when it comes to this beef making producing.
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When it comes to making hits.
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Classics.
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Putting on for the Bay Area in every way that we know how.
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Who we got today?
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Man, P.
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Low.
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Come on, man.
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Come on, pleasure, bro.
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Pleasure, man.
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Pleasure, bro.
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It's an honor today to have you, P.
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Low.
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Nah, nah, thank you, man.
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Thanks for having me, man.
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You've been doing a lot of great things, man.
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But let's start from the beginning, man.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's tell the people where you're from and how you was upbringing.
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Man, you know, I grew up in like Panot.
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Really like my older brother, my older sister, and my dad really like put me onto a lot of different kind of music.
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And I just like I had a different different kind of love for music, which made me like want to like create my own music.
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And that really started with my older brother like bringing home like a beat making program from youth radio.
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So my brother went to youth radio in high school.
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And uh shout out to youth radio, you know.
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And really he brought that beat making program home and I really just like figured out how to use it because it's man, I had a diff like a different love for it, and I really just wanted to make my own.
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So really started making music like or started making beats around like middle school, maybe like seventh, eighth grade, and I was like writing and writing in the notebooks.
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I was like listening to hella like like old Jay-Z, old Kanye like instrumentals, and I would just like write to them, you know, just just to like exercise and shit like that.
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But really, once I got to high school, that's when I met, that's when I met I am sued.
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And that's really where where me we met, and that's really like how we even started like making music together.
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So let's let's go back a little bit.
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Let's let's rewind time.
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So you're Filipino, right?
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Yeah, Filipino.
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So you speak Tagalog outside of speaking English.
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No, no, I I just only speak English.
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I yeah, I only speak English.
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I only speak English.
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Which you understand Tagalog.
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I understand, understand Tagalog, yeah, yeah.
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So, you know, by you being raised in the Bay Area, have a Filipino upbringing outside of, you know, the Bay Area culture.
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Yeah, yeah.
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How was that being a kid being, you know, diverse?
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Because you can be able to go to the Philippines with your family.
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You can actually be around the Bay Area and keep, you know, the atmosphere of the culture here.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I mean, I think like everybody knows there's like there's Hello Filipinos in the Bay.
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Right.
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And and just in in the Bay in in general, there's it's such a diverse place, you know, with with all different kinds of races and backgrounds and cultures.
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And it really, I think it makes this like special, like gumbo of of of type of people.
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Like I feel like Bay Area people, we all like worldly people.
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By default, by how everyone kind of like grew up with everyone.
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Facts.
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You know, like that automatically makes us like worldly people.
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That's why you see people like, you feel me, like someone like Marshawn.
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He could go in any setting and just be Marshawn.
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Yeah, so and be himself, because he's just naturally a worldly person just from where he was raised, you know, and I feel like we all have that.
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So man, like growing up here is you know, it's it's it's it's something to really be proud about.
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And I feel like everybody should be proud of proud of like growing up here.
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So was your older brother connected with N1 Promo?
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Any any sense of messing with that?
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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My older brother, he he was really came up through through youth radio.
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Okay.
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Or with like 108k, trackadimics, like my brother came up under them, like we all, me suit and all of them really came up under them.
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Facts, facts.
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Uh shouts out to the honorable.
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And we came up like under like the diligence, Dami, J Ant, Frank, Prank said, like, we all came up under that.
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Like Eric.
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Like, yeah, like you feel me?
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Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, like all of that.
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Go Dave, like we was like, me and Sue were like the little homies of that.
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And that's really like where like our music journey caught started.
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Cause we used to be like pulling up today events when that shit was popping, like Diligence, Go Dave, the pack, like when we was in high school, so that was like, we really been in this shit for since all the way back then, you know.
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Like I was like, what, like round 11, 12, and 07?
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Yeah, they're like, yeah, like around like 07, 2006, 2007, 2008, like all of that shit.
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Around the time when the wing team A's, yeah, yeah, A's, yeah, like, yeah, like yeah, we was, yeah, we was around, we was around fucking around, like going to functions and all that type shit.
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So how how was HBK created?
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Because we have so many creative people that's involved that circle, that's it's crazy.
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That's one of the that's one of the biggest unique super group we had in a while.
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Yeah, yeah, like all like the the HBK like family tree is like it's crazy.
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But really, it really started when when me and me and Sue met in in high school.
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And we w uh because at first really Sue was a producer too.
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I mean, Sue pr started really producing, but he also had it like like aspired to rap too.
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So when we were making beats for like people around, like, you know, people that were rapping in school, they necessarily didn't want me and Sue rapping because, you know, we were making the beats.
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So they were like, nah, we don't want y'all like rapping.
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So y'all do y'all just like stick to making beats, you know what I'm saying?
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Facts.
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I went through the same shit.
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People just want your beats.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Like, man, I'm dope as an artist, man.
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No, no, exactly.
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And that kind of like forced our me and Sue's hand to be like, man, man, not you feel me, like, fuck all that.
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We like we'll just we'll make our own shit.
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And that's really where like at least like the early stages of us really just like coming together and really like creating HBK.
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So at the beginning of that, when you guys first started making beats, who were some of the artists that you guys got your hands on to be able to give these beats to that actually rapped on the beats?
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Shit, like, I mean, diligence, like the diligence w were like some of our first really like like what I would think like a like some placements, especially like in the Bay Area, like scope.
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Shit, Eric the Jerk.
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Eric the Jerk.
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I mean, Eric the Jerk was like he was our first, I would say like majorly distributed like like placement.
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Like that, like we were able to go to fucking Best Buy and buy the Eric the Jerk CD and have like our beats on there.
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Shout out Eric.
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And then too, that's crazy because at that time, that's when we always used to buy the CDs just to look and see who, you know, yeah.
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Yeah, nah, for real.
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And I mean, yeah, for like for us at that time, that was like, that was everything to us, because like, you know, we we was we was just kids.
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We were just trying to get our shit out there.
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And for someone like Eric to like take a chance on just some kids, you know, that that was hella big for us to see our like our names in like a like a booklet that we could go to Best Buy and buy it, you know, that shit was hella big for us.
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Shout out Eric, man.
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So Eric was part of being the first top artist to be dealing with.
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So around the time, where did it come about?
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Because I heard the story of somewhat about you being a savior for Dane for the act right beat.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, I mean uh Dane put that put that put that play together.
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Yeah, so he was telling me when he came in somewhat that Mustard has sent them some beats.
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Yeah.
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And it didn't fit where they were trying to go.
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He made a phone call to you saved the day.
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You came with this unique barrier sound.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And we got the the act right.
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Yeah.
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Having that placement at that time with Yo Gotti, you know what I'm saying, YG, and being a Northern California producer, how did that feel?
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Oh man, that that was amazing.
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I mean, yeah, shout out to Dame for even like making the play.
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Like, that was like the first, like, that was actually the first beat that I sent him.
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Like, out of the pack.
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That was the first beat that was in that pack.
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But yeah, I mean, for for for me, that was that was like another like step, because I feel like Yo Gotti was already like doing his shit.
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Like he was like already a like a legend in the South.
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And like for me to be a part of like his story, that was super dope.
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Cause I remember when we were shooting the video in the East, me and him, this is like we have first met because Dame had like put us together.
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And uh he was like, yo, this is like my that this record right here, this is the first time I ever got played like on New York radio.
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He was like, I I like, you feel me?
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I never never got played on New York radio.
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Like this, this record was is like special.
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I was like, oh damn, that's what's up.
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Like, and it was dope, like them coming out here and shooting the video and like being a part of that, and like the whole bay came out to you feel me, like to the video.
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That shit was the moment, you know.
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And just just to be able to like create that and bring those type of moments and bring those all those special people to the bay was was like, you know, to me that's an honor.
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So throughout that time and shit, like you tuned and start making a heavy weight with yourself as becoming an artist.
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So like 2012 you became this or top 12, right?
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Yeah, it was yeah, it was like the uh the freshman.
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Oh well, was that 2012?
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Was that 2012?
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Yeah, it must have been yeah, around that time.
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Or or yeah, yeah, it was like maybe 2013.
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13, 2014, around that.
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Yeah, I think around that time.
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I think it was 12.
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Yeah, was it was it 12?
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Yeah, Juice Sage the Gemini, DB General.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, uh well, I think the I think D B and M, but they were like earlier, and then like there was like, I think we were like a couple classes later, but I do, it was like me G, Sage, and some other people that was on the like that was on that freshman list.
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But yeah, I mean, j just to be able to like to get any type of recognition, I feel like is I think it's hard for any artist, you know what I'm saying?
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And we're really just trying to like be able to like cut through everything.
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And especially at that time, like I feel like the internet was such a like a new thing.
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So if if I feel like any type of like action that we was getting, we was just happy to be getting it, you know.
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We were we were juiced.
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Man, you you are a heavy trendsetter, you know.
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You have even from the young California situation, too, like you have done a lot of great things and a lot of great deeds to the culture, you know, from LA back this way, like how is it like taking in LA like a second home like the Bay Area?
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Because I see that you do a lot of work that way towards this way, and then a lot of work towards that way.
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Like, how is it, you know, bringing the coach together as one?
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Yeah, man, I mean, yeah, like I got a lot of love for LA.
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Like, you know, I I done made a lot of like dope relationships out there.
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I le I I learned, I I and I met so many dope people out there, you know.
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I really got a lot of gain from just like being in the actual like music industry, like especially on the songwriting, producing side, like, and learning the ins and outs of how like big records get made.
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And and really like being able to like take the uh like take those things that I'm learning from all these different artists, all these different producers, all these different songwriters, bringing it to what I got going on and be able to share it with the the people around me and my community that's you know that that's that's around.
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Like that's essentially what I do it for it, you know.
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Like I want to be able to like get the game, you know, extract the game from whoever and give it back to our people, you know, especially here.
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Because like I feel like we're still trying to like build that here, like the the music industry of the bay.
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Like we're slowly building that, especially with, you know, I think Gazi and what what Gazi and Empire is doing, like we're building that here.
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So to be able to like know the ins and outs, like learn some ins and outs of how breakers are getting made and songwriters and all that stuff, like being able to bring that back here and like show people how like how it's actually done.
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You know, it's not just like you know, the the the it does happen sometimes where yeah, you just might pull up a beat and just go crazy.
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But if you really understand how the like songs are made and you know these big songs, it's not just it's not by accident.
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A lot of these songs aren't by accident.
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And a lot of people, I think, in our area don't understand that the proper protocol when it comes to creating records and hits, that it's multiple hands involved.
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Yeah.
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I think that when it comes to the infrastructure of business, I think it's the lack of knowledge would have us kind of misconstrued of understanding the fine line of where it comes to business.
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Yeah.
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You know, because with us being so independent, we lose the sight of the business side of the independent side.
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Because we don't think as in the longer part like that that brings longevity.
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You know, like with you being involved with things like that, it's easier for you to be like, okay, with you knowing the businesses, you'd be like, oh, I can give my boy a credit if he just says this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But yeah, where we come from, people don't understand that.
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They're like, what you mean?
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But that's how you keep your circle of conference of people attached to the game to where we all eat together.
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Well, well, yeah, one thousand percent.
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Because yeah, like the there's there's there's so many people that that I know that are h hella talented, you know what I'm saying?
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And they're not necessarily getting utilized in the ways they could be, you know.
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Yeah, you you might not you might not be an artist or whatever, whatever, but your your pants still work.
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Facts.
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You could be over here writing for for this person, or be you're writing for this person, and still being able to create just in another lane, you know, another form.
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And it's and and the it's not, you know, it's not a bad thing.
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It's like shit, get you like the the the point of being in the music business is to do business.
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Facts.
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You know, so like I think being able like finding ways to you like, yeah, that's the type of game that I'm trying to like even bring back.
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So it's because like there's so many talented people out from out here that that aren't necessarily like utili getting utilized.
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Right.
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And uh yeah, I want to like help bring that back.
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Facts.
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How do you feel about like the state of hip hop of today with things changing into streaming and being from physical sales?
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Because when you came in the game, it was physical sales.
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Yeah, it was like, yeah, it was like, yeah, you was like printing up mixtapes and handing out mixtapes and you know, really I mean, I I think I think it's it's it's it's gonna like keep changing.
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Like I feel like it's always like I I wouldn't say I feel any type of way about it.
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I think it's like I'm just trying to find my best way to adjust to it, because I could yeah, think it's like I came from that, like that hand to hand, like being able to like pass out mixtapes at Hilltop Mall and people like be being in front of Rasputin, like passing out your mixtape, like and then going into like the internet age where like you know the blog it was like the blog era and then now it's like out of the blog era there's like the streaming era and even now, so it's like now it's just like full fully out algorithmic, you know, shit.
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So it's like just man, just I think it's interesting.
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I think I think it's I think it's a challenge for for anyone to try to find their way into it now.
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Like I think discovery discovery is like probably uh what people are trying to do, get discovered.
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And I think I'm personally like trying to like just really keep doing what I'm doing and just like focusing on that, focusing on the the like the people that fuck with me and growing that and yeah, you continue continuing to grow that.
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So through the name that you have built for yourself and having a a great atmosphere around you, what does team mean to you?
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Oh like you saying just like my team.
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Like, yeah, oh man, everything.
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Everything, bro, man, like like I came I came from the bat like a like a a sports background, like I play basketball up until like junior college.
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So I understand like the type of like what it really takes to win in in in any form, you know what I'm saying?
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You need you need everybody that's involved to to be able to play a role and do it be be a star in their role.
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Not everyone's gonna be the star, but everyone can be a star in their role.
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And and really just like understanding that and really finding people that truly understand that because I I I don't know where I would even like be with without my team.
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Like I'd probably just be be a chicken with my head cut off, you know, and and being able to like trust them is just as much as they trust me, you know?
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When they feel super strongly about something, like I I'm receptive to that.
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And when I'm feel super strongly about something, they're really receptive to that too.
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So it's like I think it's like just like in any relationship, you know, trust us go both ways, but I think the you're like your team and the people you surround yourself with are like that's probably the most important shit in this, is because it's like you're gonna I think one of the most like important things that people don't necessarily like that take that people take for granted in music is like navigating navigating this, navigating the the the game.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like navigating the music industry because like yeah, like this shit is this is one it's not easy, and then another one it's like it's just cut though, it's treacherous.
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You know, so like you really need like the right the people around you to like, you know, to like oh we going we we finna turn right right here.
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We're finna go left, we finna go this way.
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You feel me?
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Like you need all you need to be able to like have those people that give you that that real like grounded decisions and not not necessarily based off basing your decisions off emotions or you know, and like just really being about your business.
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Facts.
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You know?
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Facts.
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So, you know, due to the process of life of things that you deal with, how is your mental health due to all of this stuff?
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Man, you know, I man, end of the day, like I'm just grateful.
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You know, like I'm grateful to be like alive and you know, like have my my head on my shoulders, you know, like things can always be better, things can always be worse, but you feel me, like I'm just overall grateful just to be able to, you know, have a chance to express myself and and really just like keep putting this music out and help as many people as I can along the way.
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Like that's what I'm truly grateful for.
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So like uh the you know, it's ups and downs in in every situation.
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So like just being able to like try my best to stay even killed through everything.
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Man.
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Due to Mac Drake not being around and you have his mom, Mac Wanda, being around, how is it like building a relationship with somebody as special as her and just even giving to see her vision through her son's eyes?
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, Wanda's Wanda's super cool.
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We we've been able to like talk over a text message.
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We we should be going to dinner.
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Going to dinner soon.
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I want to just take her out to dinner and just like celebrate the celebrate the Drake stuff and really just like be being able to like celebrate Dre at at at like together. 'Cause I I feel like that moment was it's is super special like to me and I know it's super special to her to to be able to see her son really like get his flowers like in the you know, the whole spirit of music because I feel like he's done so much not only for Bay Ray music, but he's inspired so many people across the world, you know, and I feel like now he's just getting his just due.
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Especially with, you know, the the the too hard for the radio shit.
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So uh shout out to Wanda.
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Man, so I seen bits and pieces of like I seen it was a clip where for for Fukari had, he had hit you and the other producer was like overseas or something.
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Yeah.
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Came from like with a creative sound.
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How did that shit feel to be included to do music business and to just do a creation with the biggest artist in the world?
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There's no artist that we ever heard of that's bigger than this guy at the time of living right now.
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He's the Michael Jackson pretty much to have someone as such yourself to bring this sound to the world for us.
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Yeah with him how did that fucking bro like surreal to be honest like I I feel like I feel like you know I think if you're creating music in this day and age like I feel like any everybody's a a fan of Drake.
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You know like if if if you're making music in this day and time like you have somehow been influenced by Drake in in some type of form like whether you want to say it or not.
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So to be able to like like you're saying like create with like the biggest artist in the game and especially to be able to like honor Dre at the same time like that was like that literally meant the world to me like man I got like I got Dre tatted on me you know like Dre did so much for me just as a as a as a person.
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Like he it like his music gave me like so much like self-confidence and self-worth like and just to be able to do that with the biggest artist and honor him alongside with someone like Drake like that was that was everything.
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You know like that that's that was a dream come true to be honest.
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When I heard this shit I'm like damn you got peel on that shit I was bro I was so happy bro I felt like I was part of the production bro because it felt so good for us to family be a part of the contribucy of creating without feeling like somebody take it.
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Yeah yeah you know what I'm saying no 1000% every time something is created for you we feel like it's taken it's taken so to actually feel and it's somebody I know and see and hear that shit felt more than the world like I I felt like like damn like it was amazing bro and I'm I'm so proud of you bro just to overcome these obstacles of what we come in today from the transition of where music happens.
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Yeah well well 1000% like many people keep going bro like you you you a heavy vessel to this game bro man I appreciate it man to the whole entertainment itself you know what I'm saying and it's an honor bro just to have you in those rooms to be able to come give this game and this acknowledgement to us to be able to share to our people.
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Yeah no exactly like yeah like man like I I think that's something that I've always like like strive to be like I want to be in these rooms like waving the flag for where we're from like because like I feel like yeah like you saying like we never like we always feel like left out of when shit's happening but that was also one of the the things where like I like I wanted to move get moved to LA so I could be in those spots and representing us and like at any way I could and and and be able to like soak as soak up as much game as I can and bring it back.
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But like man like to to what you're saying like yeah like it was dope to be a part of that because like he he's such a student of the game too you know what I'm saying he's been he's been showing love to Drace years and years and sh showing love to the Bay for years and years.
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He knows this like where we're from is a is is a cultural hub for the for the world it's just a true cultural hub like man like if you really like we'd be kind of like I feel like we'd be kind of like sleep we be like sleeping we'd be sleeping on ourselves like we'd be sleeping on ourselves like man like so much not just not just even music you know what I'm saying like just innovation in the world like everything comes from here.
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Facts like you like like like any like you could literally name anything that's changed like the game the game it came from here or it has ties to here.
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I seen I've seen you breaking that down on one of your episodes before you was talking about the Uber bro like everything bro like every everything.
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We we we're gonna say man it's it's crazy like I was talking to uh Mike Denton uh I don't know yeah like he's like he's like a he's my he's like my master shout out to Mike Dent one of those he was telling me he was he was telling me that auto tune was created at Stanford University you feel me we like that's where he was like man we we were doing testing for that shit like back in the day that's where we be playing our shit like man like we we really like we gotta like we really gotta like we like we we have that pride you feel me we have that pride but we can we can't like we gotta really like man we us you feel me like we gotta be able to like stand on that right you know what's so crazy about that shit bro when we go outside right when we go to the gas station bro you got Shields Chevron and PM they all across the street from each other but they never tell you don't go fuck with him don't go fuck with them Nah for sure but it's crazy in the music industry of our culture we only act like it's one bag.
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Nah there's multiple bags so many bags out here for us to go to but we always act like it's one bag and that's the I think that's the frustration with it all for people to understand it's multiple avenues just find yours.
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Yeah yeah yeah it's it's multiple avenues like yeah like it's like I was talking about earlier like man like maybe some some people aren't necessarily meant to be artists.
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You feel me?
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Some people are meant to be songwriters.
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You feel me?
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Like bro you could go find that bag you could go write a song right now that'll change your whole life you feel me but it's not necessarily you but it's like it's your creation like get it get out the way of that of that you feel me like some feelings get in your bag.
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You know like bro like man like I didn't wrote I done wrote some shit that's still like you feel me you will probably people don't even know I wrote that still getting me paid you feel me?
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:15.279
Hold on hold on hold on time out time out time out I heard you say this shit a couple times you just slip through so you writing too?
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Yeah like I'm I'm writ I'm songwriting for like different people and like I've written pop songs and all different type of shit you feel me like I'm just creating bruh like you feel me not everything just comes funnels through the Pillow thing like sometimes like yeah like Bro you a real you a real you're a real creator bro yeah bro like I do this shit.
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You're a creator director.
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Yeah like I like I like I like I like like I make music like every day but if I'm not like moving around and like doing shit I'm creating.
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You know I'm whether it's like doing song ideas, hook ideas, ref ide references and shit to like pitch to other people and you know like we do like we doing that shit.
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Like we we not just like we we don't like fake do this shit we really do this shit.
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We make this music and this me that this music has been good to us.
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You feel me?
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This is what needs to be heard to our culture that don't just concentrate in one bag get in multiple bags wear multiple hats yeah you gotta innovate yourself throughout and through in too you know don't get stagnated a lot of times we get so stagnated that we lose focus and we blame people for our own failures.
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Yeah yeah 1000% like if I was just like just focusing on like P-Lo the artist I wouldn't have been able to do something with Drake.
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You feel me?
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But at at that time I had to be like okay I gotta be P-Lo the producer at that time you know like I'm I'm I'm like figuring out how I could play my position all the time in any situation.
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Like I want to be of service to to any situation.
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How I how I can like add to something regardless of what it is like you know I want to be of service to any situation.
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Like I don't want to just to serve me all the time like how can I like serve any situation?
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Like that's what I feel like has been giving me that's given me the longevity in this music.
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Like I I I've been damnating shit for like 15 plus years.
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You feel me?
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And that's and I feel like that's been to me being able to like be of service to any situation that I that I'm in.
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Whether it's like knowing that it's not like it's it's not my like not everything's the end all be all right.
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You feel me?
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Like if I go make this if I well just like I want to go make this beat for Drake that's not gonna be the last beat I ever make.
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You feel me?
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Like I'm gonna go create some more and that's you feel me like it's not the end all be all like knowing and you have to know that like you gotta just keep going keep pushing.
00:32:50.960 --> 00:33:06.000
Would you tell younger artists it's okay to be a fan of somebody because a lot of times we hear people say oh they fanned out or you fanned out but the fan would help you be successful in life.
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:18.799
Yeah and a lot of us come from being fans of somebody yeah yeah no 1000% I mean if if you make music like you are a fan of somebody you feel me you were fan you like you you you're a fan you feel me and that's that's not a bad thing.
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It's like man like end of the day like people people be so scared to show love.
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Like bro show some love like you don't never know what that could do.
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You feel me?
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Like man like you could have a like a pure interaction with somebody but man when I see him bro he he showed me some genuine love and you don't never know what that could lead to you know and not not in like a way of like you know but just like relation like building a relationship with somebody like that I feel like that's always like especially if if you're a fan of somebody but hey bro I fuck with your shit man keep pushing but keep doing your thing.
00:33:55.680 --> 00:34:06.400
Like that ain't is is that that ain't you feel me that don't take no that don't take no skin off your sh off your shit you feel me like it's just being solid.
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Like you know but I feel like in general that's like people don't want to like put their ego to the side for that type of shit.
00:34:16.319 --> 00:34:28.559
You know like if if I'm a fan of you I'll I'll like uh you feel me I'll DM you hey bro I fuck with your shit much love like or if I see you like hey bro I fuck with your shit if I see you in public or see someone hey bro I fuck with your shit.
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I know you are much love.
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Keep pushing keep doing your thing if you could tell the young men of today that's you know might got the talent but leading yourself in the wrong direction but you know probably got the earth to try to be there but they just not arrived around people what type of advice could you give them man I think shit surround tr try to f try to be around like minded people people that's trying to do the same thing that you trying to do.
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:06.160
You trying to make some music you trying to, you know, level up your life like you should try to be around people that are trying to do that.
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And it's and and it's sometimes hard.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Cause like sometimes you gotta like let go of friends, let go of family members.
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You feel me?
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Cause they not on that same shit you want.
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And that's it's cool and then that's okay.
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You feel me?
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:26.960
That's one thing about life is like shit you really got like some shit you gotta let go.
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So some things are like are just some people some people are seasons in your life and sometimes seasons be over.
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And it's it's no like ill will no bad shit it's like hey I'm trying to go this way if you're not trying to go this way you you hold you hold me back and it's it's no disrespect to nobody.
00:35:46.240 --> 00:36:10.080
You feel me but like you everyone everyone's in control of their own their own life and it's like what life do you necessarily want to live like do you want to like be able to like blame your your your your failures on other people or do you want to like blame it like take that accountability on yourself.
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It's like no the reason why my life is how it is is because of me.
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Like whether it's good or bad you you feel me like I want to be old like I wanna be always in control of my own destiny.
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Like like and that's you know that's who you surround yourself with and then I think that's where it starts is like who you surround yourself with.
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If you could tell the younger P Love one thing and you was looking at him right now in the mirror, what would you tell him?
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Man I would just tell him to continue to trust yourself.
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Like just continue to trust yourself Yeah yeah keep keep going and trust yourself like yeah I I I'll say that so what with everything that you have accomplished within this time span what do you see yourself in the next year and what do you want for yourself in the next year?
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:13.920
Man, I I want to just continue to grow wherever wherever God allows me to grow.
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You know what I'm saying I want to keep pushing I want to keep keep progressing in in in in any in in all my endeavors that I have right now like I want to just keep keep moving those moving those things along I know a lot of a lot of I've been working on a lot of things and a lot of things like take time to like really like grow legs and really like build foundations for a lot of things but man I just want to continue to you know keep my foot on the gas and keep progressing and keep pushing forward.
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Well you know at this time we like to give the gold bars and you know the homage and the flowers while you hear while you can smell them you know one thing I tell my guests and my people I never want to be the person that waits till somebody passes away to let them know how I feel why they are you know why they're gone.
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Tell them why they're alive, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:23.680
So I, you know, I thank you bro for contributing over 15 years part of your life into this game, risking your life night after night going out, putting yourself on these stages and going to these different cities and venues and all these different things at times where it ain't guaranteed that you can make it in or out no matter what type of atmosphere it is.
00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:42.560
You know, if it can be a plane car trains automobiles whatever it may be the atmosphere whatever but you doing it and you you putting on a heavy you know D for our culture for yourself for your family you know to see a better outcome a better change uplifting things they're powerful the wisdom that you're putting out with great energy.
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Yeah you know what I'm saying that's something that I dearly take in heavily you know because a lot of times we don't have that shit is always around some type of fucked up stigma that we only get it you know what I'm saying so to have people like yourself that always keeping a good energy like I've never not seen you on on some great term of the table where it's bad.
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:05.520
Yeah it's never bad.
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Yeah it's never bad man shut out cam too shout out cam shout out cam it's never bad it's it's it's just it's a special moment bro just to have you here today it's to say thank you bro appreciate it you know what I'm saying and you know just to have you here in this seat because it's crazy because this this is this is a secret that you might even know.
00:39:28.480 --> 00:40:09.360
Yeah so my middle brother is best friends with your sister for real they've been best friends since I was in middle school yeah wow wow so my middle brother is Tate McKenzie okay okay okay okay yeah yeah okay yeah yeah yeah I'm familiar yeah man shout out my sister too it's it's an honor you know just to have you here and our our relationship built on our own yeah at the time and thank you for always taking liking into me my son my company just giving me time to even understand that like bro motherfuckers it ain't where you from it's where you're going.
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Yeah I'm saying and I always appreciate that that you never not show love come get handshakes or who you will you good you got duty with you would have come yeah I take heed to all of that you know and I thank you for that bro thank you for being a like-minded person bro thank you for keep opening and keep opening and keep opening up doors as you do you know is there any way that any artist can get to you that might want to you know do business on production or anything how can I reach you man shit hit me up on Instagram man like it I like I'll be going through my DMs all the time just to like like you know see what people talking about.
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Like that's even how I you know it's crazy that's even how I met Cari Like he was just he would just DM me like all the time and I'd be like who the fuck is DMing me this?
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And like I one day I clicked it and I was like oh I was like damn you help you hard as fuck like yeah so like yeah I'll be I'll be going through my DMs like I'm I'm not one of those people like I'm I'm I'm constantly looking for people like like I'm always you know looking out for the try to find the next generation you know and I feel like that's something that's always like been like good to me too so like just like embracing the new like because the man there's so many talented people out there in the world and especially and in the Bay like man like I think me s being in LA like we we tried to make our like studio or like our studios up in uh out in LA we're trying to make that like a like a barrier hub for you know people that are in the Bay that are coming to LA you could probably ask any any artist that's been that's from the Bay.
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AJN did tell me hell a time yeah like like like we yeah like man like any and you guys any artist that's from the Bay like if they hey P I'm in LA man come through the studio just come kick it just come do whatever you feel me just come through you feel me just just just just come kick it like come feel some Bay energy out here because yeah like LA is not like you know LA's a treacherous place you feel me if you if if you get like get around some wrong wrong shit you feel me but yeah we we like we I I love to keep that door open and just I'll offer that space for you know Bay Air people coming down to LA and you getting their feet set getting their feet planted out there.
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So yeah man like and like like you're saying man I appreciate you having me because like man I've been seeing seeing y'all put push you feel me y'all been pushing so it's like man like I I any anybody that's pushing I'm come on I'm fucking with it like that that that's the type of energy I'm on like if I see you pushing I'm I'm fucking with you.
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You feel me like I I I I I love the energy I love what y'all doing and man I want to just continue to support.
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Keep going bro congratulations to on the outside lands performance go break the stage and put it in the city yeah yeah we have to I see you got this exclusive ass cable cart ride shit.
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Yeah yeah you be coming up with some dope ass concepts do Cal A be coming up with it's the team man yeah it's like yeah it's like yeah Cal A be fucking with shout out to shout out to Cal Cala man like one of the dopest motherfucking managers out for sure bro get to know if y'all don't know man active management man get y'all homework up man these guys do some of the best work on the ground in the air and on the back end man Cal hey if y'all don't know y'all better use it he still make beats too he done that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying don't sleep on don't sleep on Calais that's what I'm saying y'all don't sleep on the active he be sleeping on himself too I'll be like we got come to the studio he just be he just be busy on this management shit.
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Yeah you feel me but I mean yeah like man like just like I was saying earlier man like without the team man like I don't know I don't know where I'd be man like these guys like JR Calais will stretch you know the the these these guys uh that are like I've been with for years and years and uh shut out will man shut out stretch man the you know especially as a like I feel like as a creative like you want to do so much and you know it's like they're able to like keep me level headed because like sometimes I'm like overly ambitious sometimes you can be overly ambitious with with a lot of things and that's that's good too but sometimes you know there's times that you do have to be like realistic in what you can't can and can't do.
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You know so it's like being able to have that balance is is is is very special.
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So shout out the team man the team the team the team is everything man shout out to the guys man we we had a dope ass dope ass interview man we got one of the best the dopest the greatest to come producer from Northern California California itself man P with the dads to the low at the end man come on yeah yeah yeah
