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Well lay.
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Today, a federal district court again rejected the Justice Department's
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bid to obtain state voter roles for what is now
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the sixteenth straight time. Our Liz Landers is back now
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with a view from those responsible for running our elections
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for more on.
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How state election administrators are responding to the president's speech.
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I'm joined now by two election officials in key battleground states,
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Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontez and Gabe Sterling of
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the Georgia Secretary of State's office.
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Gentlemen, thank you for joining News.
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Hour, Thanks for having us having to be here.
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Secretary Fontase, I'm going to start with you, how do
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you respond to the president's claim from last night's speech
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that nearly two hundred and eighty thousand non citizens are
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registered to vote nationwide and the accusations that Democrats do
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not care about this issue?
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Do you well, I care about the issue.
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I just don't think that the President has his facts right,
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and I don't think he's telling the entire story.
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I think his numbers are wrong.
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In fact, when we dug a little bit deeper intos
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of the documentation, we know.
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The numbers are wrong, and you know We've got better things.
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To do than listen to the president's grievance from twenty twenty.
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We've got an election to run, and I think election
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administrators across the country understand that they have work to do.
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We are professionals. We've been running great elections for a
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very long time. And interestingly, you never heard the president
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complaining about what happened in twenty twenty four, did you?
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And so I think as to this subject, particularly this
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particular president lacks credibility to the degree that his comments
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were really given the weight that they deserve.
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Which is not much.
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Gabe.
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The President said that Georgia was one of eighteen states
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whose voter files were compromised by China two hundred and
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twenty million files in total nationwide. Is this new information
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and should this concern voters?
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Well, no, not really, because the reality is notice what
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he said, specifically, the first thing he says, they bought it.
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They bought it because this is the publicly available information.
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And what is the theory of the crime here? What
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are they going to do with it? This is stuff
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that anybody can get. They can't change a vote, they
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can't change itally, they can't take your vote away. None
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of that works, And if you go back to the
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original March twenty twenty one intelligence assessment, it was already
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there in large part, and we know they were trying
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to do this. So this has had no outcome, and
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everything in the supporting documentation has said nothing has happened
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anywhere in twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four,
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and now going into twenty twenty six.
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I'm seeing Secretary fonte Is nodding his head to what
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you're saying right now, Gabe. Secretary fonte Is, you're a Democrat, Gabe,
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you're a Republican. You don't necessarily agree all the time
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on political issues, but you seem to be aligned on this.
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It seems like you both agree that these revelations do
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not change the results of the twenty twenty election.
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Secretary Fontess, I'll let you answer first.
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Well, yeah, it doesn't change the results because our elections
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are run by professionals who can distinguished between their duty
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and their opinion. I think what's really important here, let's
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just go back to that voter data question of the
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voter rules. We want certain portions of our voter roles
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to be public like they are public right now, because
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that way, folks who know how these systems work can
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look at who's registered to vote, can go to a
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cast vote record later and they can verify that only
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registered voters voted. That is a safeguard, That is a
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transparency issue, that is an access question, and it keeps
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us accountable. We know this, those of us who do
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this work, so you know, Gab and the folks in Georgia,
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they do a great job. Folks across the country do
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a great job. The problem we have is the lies
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from the White House are making us look terrible and
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that's problematic for our voters.
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Dave, did you hear anything in last night's speech that
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makes you rethink what happened in twenty twenty and the
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election that was certified in Georgia.
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Well, of course none of this is a revelation. This
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is also we have all known as election administrators, and
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I'm just happy to see that the White House and
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the federal government is catching up to our election administrators
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has been working for the last ten to fifteen twenty years.
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We deal with these issues every day. We deal with
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the fact that people try to register and they shouldn't
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be trying to register we deal with list maintenance, We
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deal with logic and action testing for our machines. These
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are constant things that we do. We are always improving,
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we are always measuring. And the stuff last night.
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Here's the real issue.
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I think a lot of what he said last night
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was true, but it was cast in such a way
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to make it seem nefarious, novel. He said, they are
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all these they have your data. There are all these
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non citizens on the registration list. What he didn't say
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was they voted.
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Mister secretary, you are in the middle of election preparation
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right now, Arizona's primaries on Tuesday. Does anything you heard
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last night make you think you need to check or
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reconsider anything for those elections this coming week.
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Nope, Nothing I heard last night is going to make
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it the hill of beans of difference here in Arizona
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or anywhere else in the country. I think Gabe said
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it very well. There's nothing new here. There's nothing revelatory here.
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In fact, I think I told someone recently, I was
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kind of disappointed.
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I was hoping to hear something.
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New so that we can make another improvement, so that
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we can adjust another system to benefit our voters.
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But there is nothing.
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New here, and I don't think that anybody who is
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reasonable and who understands how to see facts for what
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they are can give this speech from last night any
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sort of credibility.
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We are going to continue to do what we do.
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We do it well.
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All of the analysis and checks and audits and the
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scrutiny we've been under for years has proven that out.
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And by the way, our voters love doing what they do,
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and in Arizona eighty five percent of us vote by mail.
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We're going to keep doing it.
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Whether or not the President of the United States likes it.
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It's none of his business what we do in Arizona.
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He's got a lot of other things that he should
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be thinking about.
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Gabe, final question for you.
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There was mention last night in these speeches and then
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again today from the Homeland Security Secretary of future investigations
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into election officials who do not cooperate with DHS or
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the Department of Justice in turning over.
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Some of these voter roles. What is your response to that?
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Will you cooperate?
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And as a Republican, I don't want to centralized database
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of voters because at some point of Democrats and went
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to presidency Nega say everybody can vote. This is about federalism,
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this is about the constitution, this is about state control.
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And as a Republican, I want my team to win elections.
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Every time the President brings this up, we end up
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doing worse and elections. Last night, when he mentioned Michigan specifically,
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I thought that Joscelyn Benson should send him a thank
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you note for all the money she's going to raise
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because he mentioned her state and the Republican nominee there
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just got worse off than he would before. In Georgia,
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we're a a swing state and we have a Senate race,
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a governor's race are really tight, and none of our
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candidates want to be talking about this because it doesn't
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help us get swing voters. It's just kukus, you crazy town,
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and it's just I wish they would focus on the
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right things, which is to make sure the states run
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good elections and guess what they already do. Twenty twenty
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was safe, twenty twenty two was safer, twenty twenty four
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was safer, and twenty twenty six is needed safer than those.
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Gabe Stirling of the Georgia Secretary of State's Office, Adrian
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Fontees of Arizona.
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Thank you both so much for your time.
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Happy to be here, good, thank you us
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Well lay.
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Today, a federal district court again rejected the Justice Department's
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bid to obtain state voter roles for what is now
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the sixteenth straight time. Our Liz Landers is back now
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with a view from those responsible for running our elections
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for more on.
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How state election administrators are responding to the president's speech.
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I'm joined now by two election officials in key battleground states,
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Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontez and Gabe Sterling of
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the Georgia Secretary of State's office.
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Gentlemen, thank you for joining News.
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Hour, Thanks for having us having to be here.
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Secretary Fontase, I'm going to start with you, how do
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you respond to the president's claim from last night's speech
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that nearly two hundred and eighty thousand non citizens are
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registered to vote nationwide and the accusations that Democrats do
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not care about this issue?
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Do you well, I care about the issue.
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I just don't think that the President has his facts right,
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and I don't think he's telling the entire story.
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I think his numbers are wrong.
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In fact, when we dug a little bit deeper intos
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of the documentation, we know.
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The numbers are wrong, and you know We've got better things.
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To do than listen to the president's grievance from twenty twenty.
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We've got an election to run, and I think election
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administrators across the country understand that they have work to do.
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We are professionals. We've been running great elections for a
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very long time. And interestingly, you never heard the president
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complaining about what happened in twenty twenty four, did you?
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And so I think as to this subject, particularly this
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particular president lacks credibility to the degree that his comments
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were really given the weight that they deserve.
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Which is not much.
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Gabe.
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The President said that Georgia was one of eighteen states
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whose voter files were compromised by China two hundred and
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twenty million files in total nationwide. Is this new information
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and should this concern voters?
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Well, no, not really, because the reality is notice what
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he said, specifically, the first thing he says, they bought it.
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They bought it because this is the publicly available information.
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And what is the theory of the crime here? What
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are they going to do with it? This is stuff
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that anybody can get. They can't change a vote, they
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can't change itally, they can't take your vote away. None
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of that works, And if you go back to the
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original March twenty twenty one intelligence assessment, it was already
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there in large part, and we know they were trying
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to do this. So this has had no outcome, and
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everything in the supporting documentation has said nothing has happened
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anywhere in twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty four,
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and now going into twenty twenty six.
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I'm seeing Secretary fonte Is nodding his head to what
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you're saying right now, Gabe. Secretary fonte Is, you're a Democrat, Gabe,
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you're a Republican. You don't necessarily agree all the time
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on political issues, but you seem to be aligned on this.
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It seems like you both agree that these revelations do
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not change the results of the twenty twenty election.
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Secretary Fontess, I'll let you answer first.
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Well, yeah, it doesn't change the results because our elections
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are run by professionals who can distinguished between their duty
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and their opinion. I think what's really important here, let's
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just go back to that voter data question of the
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voter rules. We want certain portions of our voter roles
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to be public like they are public right now, because
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that way, folks who know how these systems work can
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look at who's registered to vote, can go to a
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cast vote record later and they can verify that only
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registered voters voted. That is a safeguard, That is a
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transparency issue, that is an access question, and it keeps
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us accountable. We know this, those of us who do
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this work, so you know, Gab and the folks in Georgia,
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they do a great job. Folks across the country do
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a great job. The problem we have is the lies
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from the White House are making us look terrible and
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that's problematic for our voters.
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Dave, did you hear anything in last night's speech that
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makes you rethink what happened in twenty twenty and the
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election that was certified in Georgia.
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Well, of course none of this is a revelation. This
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is also we have all known as election administrators, and
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I'm just happy to see that the White House and
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the federal government is catching up to our election administrators
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has been working for the last ten to fifteen twenty years.
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We deal with these issues every day. We deal with
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the fact that people try to register and they shouldn't
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be trying to register we deal with list maintenance, We
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deal with logic and action testing for our machines. These
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are constant things that we do. We are always improving,
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we are always measuring. And the stuff last night.
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Here's the real issue.
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I think a lot of what he said last night
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was true, but it was cast in such a way
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to make it seem nefarious, novel. He said, they are
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all these they have your data. There are all these
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non citizens on the registration list. What he didn't say
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was they voted.
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Mister secretary, you are in the middle of election preparation
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right now, Arizona's primaries on Tuesday. Does anything you heard
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last night make you think you need to check or
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reconsider anything for those elections this coming week.
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Nope, Nothing I heard last night is going to make
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it the hill of beans of difference here in Arizona
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or anywhere else in the country. I think Gabe said
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it very well. There's nothing new here. There's nothing revelatory here.
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In fact, I think I told someone recently, I was
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kind of disappointed.
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I was hoping to hear something.
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New so that we can make another improvement, so that
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we can adjust another system to benefit our voters.
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But there is nothing.
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New here, and I don't think that anybody who is
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reasonable and who understands how to see facts for what
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they are can give this speech from last night any
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sort of credibility.
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We are going to continue to do what we do.
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We do it well.
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All of the analysis and checks and audits and the
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scrutiny we've been under for years has proven that out.
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And by the way, our voters love doing what they do,
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and in Arizona eighty five percent of us vote by mail.
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We're going to keep doing it.
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Whether or not the President of the United States likes it.
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It's none of his business what we do in Arizona.
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He's got a lot of other things that he should
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be thinking about.
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Gabe, final question for you.
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There was mention last night in these speeches and then
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again today from the Homeland Security Secretary of future investigations
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into election officials who do not cooperate with DHS or
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the Department of Justice in turning over.
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Some of these voter roles. What is your response to that?
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Will you cooperate?
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And as a Republican, I don't want to centralized database
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of voters because at some point of Democrats and went
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to presidency Nega say everybody can vote. This is about federalism,
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this is about the constitution, this is about state control.
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And as a Republican, I want my team to win elections.
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Every time the President brings this up, we end up
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doing worse and elections. Last night, when he mentioned Michigan specifically,
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I thought that Joscelyn Benson should send him a thank
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you note for all the money she's going to raise
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because he mentioned her state and the Republican nominee there
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just got worse off than he would before. In Georgia,
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we're a a swing state and we have a Senate race,
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a governor's race are really tight, and none of our
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candidates want to be talking about this because it doesn't
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help us get swing voters. It's just kukus, you crazy town,
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and it's just I wish they would focus on the
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right things, which is to make sure the states run
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good elections and guess what they already do. Twenty twenty
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was safe, twenty twenty two was safer, twenty twenty four
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was safer, and twenty twenty six is needed safer than those.
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Gabe Stirling of the Georgia Secretary of State's Office, Adrian
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Fontees of Arizona.
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Thank you both so much for your time.
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Happy to be here, good, thank you us