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It's great to have on a big -time baseball name
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in District 9 history Brad Frazier and Brad I
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must say when people hear your name Perhaps they're
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saying boy. He was a really good coach at Clarion
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limestone and that's a fact baseball team But
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you were a draft pick and a minor league player
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for the Florida Marlins not Miami. It's Florida
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now Brad good to have you on and I'm anxious
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to talk about baseball, right? Thanks, Rich.
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I appreciate it So obviously we talked a little
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bit before the show started on some research
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and I will drop this number out. You were the
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1 ,132nd player selected in the 1992 draft. That
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was the Jim Pissley draft. He was taken in the
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first round, I believe 17th pick, and you were
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a 40th round draft pick out of Clarion University.
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That's correct. So what's neat about this, Brad,
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is you didn't throw one inning of high school
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baseball at Clarion because there's no team.
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How did this happen in 1992 when you got drafted?
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Because you obviously got some recognition enough
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to get on the draft board. Well, it even goes
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back a little further than that. I owe a lot
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of credit to my dad. We went to a lot of tryouts
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and different things that teams were hosting
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and basically got my name out there as best as
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I could. But I was a little nervous my senior
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year, Rich, when I was actually drafted. I started
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off the season with zero wins and three losses.
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So I was going through a period where it was
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like, OK, is this going to happen or not? Statistically,
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the rest of my stats were pretty good. And after
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that third game, things just started clicking.
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And I won like five games in a row. And scouts
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started coming back. And kind of all just fell
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into place after that for me. left handed pitcher.
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Tell me how you got guys out. What was in your
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repertoire? And we should shout out to Rich Herman,
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one of your players. He was the head coach at
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Clarion at the time. Absolutely. Rich Herman,
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Barry McAuliffe. Barry was actually, to me, he
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was our pitching coach. He was really ahead of
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his time. He just knew all the ins and outs of
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pitching and it really helped me tremendously
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and helped me grow as a pitcher. got my name
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out there as well, and it worked out really well
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for us. For me, I should say. Yeah. How'd you
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get guys out? What was Brad Frazier's repertoire?
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I was a mid -80s fastball guy, and my best pitch
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was my curve ball. And I threw a change up sometimes.
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But at that time, I was a two -pitch pitcher.
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And I knew I needed to develop that third pitch,
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and I was working on a change -up. And even in
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the minors, I started working more on the change
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-up as well. But my best pitch was my curveball.
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So you go through your season, like you said,
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you start off slow, you finish better. Going
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into the draft. I mean again, we just talked
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and we'll go to it very few D9 guys have been
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drafted in the history Every the buzz clearly
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in district 9 was where was Jim Pitzley gonna
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go and you know, he was drafted the 17th pick
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in 1992 by the Royals You're a senior in high
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school. You're in college Any any clue because
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it wasn't you know, that wasn't as highly profiled
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back then unless you were a bona fide You know
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prospect any clue that what was gonna happen?
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Yes, there was. I was in Florida. We were on
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our spring training trip in college, and that's
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actually the first time that the Marlins saw
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me. It was scouted by the name of Bill Shear,
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and he was a left -handed pitcher for the Reds
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and the Tigers back in, back in the mid-'80s.
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And he just kept following up with me, and I
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had phone calls from the Mets and the Cardinals
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and the Pirates and some different teams, but
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really they showed the most interest in ultimately
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drafted me and and followed me basically that
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whole season. It's been a few years since they've
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had 40 rounds. I mean Mike Piazza is the famous
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50 what 52nd round draft pick. I'm guessing at
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this point. You're just, hey, draft me. Give
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me my dream. I'll take a shot. How exciting was
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that? And how did you find out? Because the technology
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in 1992 was basically you're getting a phone
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call. And if I remember right, the scouts in
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college, it was kind of a cloak and dagger thing
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on trying to hide stuff. How did you find out?
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And how did you get from getting a phone call
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to winding up for the eerie sailors? Well, in
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that time period, You know, a lot of it was just
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through phone calls. It wasn't computerized or
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anything like that. And I had probably a half
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a dozen teams calling me right up until that
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draft day. And I was actually, Rich Herman, my
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baseball coach, was building a house over in
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the development. He lives now. And he said, hey,
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would you come over and help me pick up rocks?
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So I was picking up rocks and I was married at
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the time my wife called and she said hey the
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Florida Martins are on the phone They would like
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to talk to you. So that's how that kind of all
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took place and through the phone, it was a really
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quick negotiation. I talked to the scout, Bill
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Shear, and he said, we're gonna fly you to Florida.
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Congratulations and welcome to the Florida Marlins,
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but we're gonna fly you to Florida. And since
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I was a senior in college, I got $1 ,000 signing
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bonus and a glove and some spikes from the Marlins
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and a baseball bat. And we're really off to spring
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training. And when I hit spring training was
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probably the most difficult time period for me.
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Uh, cause I was never exposed to anything like
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it. I was, you know, I was maybe the, the smallest
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fish in the big C, I guess, because, um, there
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was, I was now playing against guys from Texas
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and Oklahoma state. And, and, you know, I was
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used to playing against guys from walk Haven
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cow and those types of places, but you know,
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they made me feel reassured that, Hey, you're
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here with everybody else and just give it your
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best shot because you know, Congratulations,
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you know, you're here. Well, and the other interesting
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thing about being drafted by the Marlins in 92,
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they didn't play their first game as an expansion
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club until 1993. Was that kind of exciting, realizing
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that, you know, you're about as new as it gets
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with a team and you get the you're in this new
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situation? Pretty interesting. It was, it was,
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uh, it was the very first draft. It was the 92
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draft for the Florida Marlins and Colorado Rockies
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for that matter. And, um, we, we really got what
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I would call the big league treatment. Um, we
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didn't make big league money, but we were, we
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got the big league treatment because, um, they,
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they, we were their first ball club. And, uh,
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like you mentioned before I was assigned to Erie.
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So now I became the local kid again, just a couple
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hours up the road. And it was really nice to
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have my parents and all my family and friends
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to come to Erie and watch me play. We were in
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the old Ainsworth field, which was a high school
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field. And then a year or two later, they moved
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down to where they play now. But no, it was a
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great experience for that. And Charles Johnson
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was in that draft, their first pick. He's the
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only guy from that draft that made the Bigs,
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which I guess you could classify that as not
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a good draft. No, two guys, two guys. So it was
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Charles Johnson, four time Gold Glove catcher,
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two time All -Star. He played 12 years a lot
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with the Marlins. And Andy Larkin, who threw
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39 games in the Bigs. He was a 25th round pick.
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And we mentioned. The research I'm gonna stick
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my neck out. So out of the out of the dish in
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district the the draft was started in 1965 sent
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from 65 to you I Could only come up with five
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guys that were draft counting you five So I'll
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throw these out and people can shoot me down.
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I cannot think of any anybody else There's plenty
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after you as we discussed Larry Potash 40th round
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from Du Bois left -handed pitcher 1970 1979 Got
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by the name of John Mizorok, first round pick,
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catcher for the Astros. Managed for many years
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in the system. Royals, he was manager of the
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Royals at one point. And then 1985, Bob Bernardo
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of Dubois, Seattle, 25th round in 85. And then
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Jim Pitsley, first round of 1992. So he cast
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the shadow in the rest of District 9, but he
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was an incredible right -handed pitcher for the
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Beavers that took him to the state finals, 17th
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round in 92. That's it. I mean, when you think
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of your place in D9 draft history, Oh, no, we
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forgot one. Bob Maietta, you saved my butt. So
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six, Bob Maietta, another Dubois right -handed
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pitcher. He was in 1989 11th round pick of the
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Detroit Tigers. That's a short list, Brad. Have
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you ever thought about, you know, that's a pretty
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select group? I have, you know, and like you
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and I talked before, it was... and Bob and Jim
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were the big names back then, especially in the
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area. And I just felt very fortunate that I played
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with a lot of good ballplayers, and I was fortunate
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enough to stick with it. And like you mentioned,
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I was at an advantage and a disadvantage. I didn't
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have high school baseball at that time. And I
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think looking back, the advantage was I had a
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fresh arm and was able to log the extra innings
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that I needed to in college. But I think a disadvantage,
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too, was that additional exposure that I didn't
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have in high school that a lot of those guys
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had. But they were great players, obviously,
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and well -deserved. So you, I mean, you played
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Legion baseball. That would have been your summer
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stuff, right? I did. I did. I played Legion baseball
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the whole way up through. Got a chance to see
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Bob Maietta and a lot of those Legion All -Star
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games. And you just knew that he was a really
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great talent at that time. And that was really
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the first time that I got exposure to scouts.
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I remember the Pirate Scouts who signed John
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Smiley. I went, he asked me to come to a workout
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in Warren, Pennsylvania, and I knew at that time
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that I maybe had a chance. And, you know, so
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that's kind of where it started through me through
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Legion baseball, and then obviously, college
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and different things. But it was kind of funny,
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Rich, he asked me the one time, he said, Can
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you send me your high school baseball schedule?
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And I said, I don't have one. He said, what do
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you mean you don't have one? I said, well, we
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don't have high school baseball. He thought I
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was joking. He said, you're kidding me. And I
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said, no. I said, we don't have high school baseball.
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I said, if you want to come watch me, you're
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going to have to watch me in Legion baseball.
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So you probably felt that maybe that was a disadvantage
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when you had to admit that. Yeah, it was. It
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was like I said, it was a disadvantage. And I
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think it was also an advantage. So again, there
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were pros and cons to both sides. So you end
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up in, in, in, um, in Erie and you got to play
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and we mentioned Charles Johnson. Now Johnson
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did not play with you in Erie. He was a little
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higher end, uh, uh, prospect. They, they moved
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up the ranks and I don't know exactly how they
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stocked their system because you wouldn't have
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been at their highest rank, uh, as far as their
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minors. I would assume Johnson would have been
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in triple A. He didn't sign, he didn't sign till
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late. So he didn't, he didn't play that year.
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So my first chance, I got a chance to play as
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a teammate. We were out in King County, Illinois
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in 1993. But again, that first experience, I
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remember that they flew a lot of the people that
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were involved with the Marlins up to Erie and
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the whole Melbourne area was covering the game
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and we were on national TV. So again, we got
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a lot of the big league exposure. At that time
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because it was it was a it was a big deal because
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there was two brand new teams in that 1992 year
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So there's only two teams in the system in 92
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Well, there was there was us and in Erie. There
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was a Gulf Coast leg team down the Cocoa Beach
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Melbourne area and then they had the what they
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called the high desert team, which was a California
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league. So there was actually three teams that
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year. And then in 93, they started to fill the
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rest of the system with AA, AAA, and obviously
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the big league team. Okay. So yeah. So Erie,
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not a bad season. I mean, you got to the finals,
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you finished 40 and 37. You, you, uh, you pitched,
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why wouldn't I have your stats right up? I mean,
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that season included some playoffs and some buzz
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as you just said. And you had a teammate by the
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name of John Lynch, a future NFL Hall of Famer
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who was a pitcher, did not play much. How did
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his season go? Did he end up cycling out the
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football? I guess I didn't look that up real
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good. Nine -time Pro Bowler, so he must have
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been an incredible athlete. He was. I got to
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know John. pretty well throughout the season,
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but he always even said that you know he was
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going to go to the football route at that time.
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There are a few guys that did both like a football
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player who played in summer in the miners. Absolutely,
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he was a Stanford real intelligent guy and he
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only pitched. I if I remember right, he only
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pitched a handful of innings two in college,
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but he had that live arm that they liked and.
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the Marlins signed him, but they just couldn't
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keep him because he was going the football route.
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He threw 29 innings, 2 .15 ERA. You got nine
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games, you pitched in 21 games, I guess, and
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they don't have you starting any. So 31 innings.
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37 strikeouts, Brad. You must have that spin
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going 5 .23 ERA. How did that season go for you?
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And how did you work through that mentally? As
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you said, small bit, you know, big pond, small
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fish. However, because, you know, this is this
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is a big challenge now. It was it was it was
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a longer season. We played like 68 games that
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year and of course throw another handful for
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the playoffs. It. It wasn't the physical challenge,
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it was the mental challenge because I was in
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a role where I was basically a set up man and
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a lot of that had to do with my draft. selection
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and things like that. And they consider me a
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left handed specialist, I would come in and face
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a lot of left handed batters with my curveball
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and things. But I didn't have a lot of wiggle
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room either because I didn't get a chance to
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log many innings. So I was a one two out guy
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back then you didn't have to face three batters
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either back then. But you know, so my ERA was
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really good. For most of the season I had a couple
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rough outings and you know, so that's where that
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oh my you already jumped a little bit but overall
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I was really pleased with the season I had and
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and You know Look, I look forward to coming back
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that following year Midwest and Kane County Cougars.
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Now that's where you have a couple notable teammates.
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As you said, Charles Johnson, you played with
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him and then Edgar Renteria, who had the famous
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home or game winning hit in 97, 97, 97 against
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the Indians to win the World Series. Higher level.
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Was there, was there a market difference between
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Eerie and the Midwest league? Cause that's a,
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that is a level higher. There was. To me, you
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saw a lot of better prospects, I guess. More
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of the higher round draft picks of that year.
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And you wanna talk about a young talent. I believe
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they signed Edgar when he was 15, 16 years old.
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And you just knew that he separated himself from
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a lot of players. And he was gonna be that type
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of big league player. Hector Carrasco was on
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that team. I have a funny story about Hector
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Carrasco. We were playing in Burlington, Iowa,
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and he was a starting pitcher. He played in the
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big leagues for a lot of years. We're sitting
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in the bullpen. And of course, in minor league
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ballparks, the fans are like right there with
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you. They're right behind you. And there was
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a couple that was sitting behind us, a husband
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and wife, and Hector's throwing. And he's throwing
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about 97. And it's one of those not well lit
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ballparks. And the guy turned to his wife and
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he said, boy, I hope they're not shooting at
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us. And we're all kind of like looking around
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and laughing a little bit. And here it was Hector
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Carrusco with his 97 -mile -an -hour fastball.
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It sounded like a 30 -30 going off. And this
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couple thought that somebody was shooting a gun
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off in the background. Look at these innings
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pitched Brad. Now you were, as you said, situational
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lefty. 39 outings, 30 .1 innings with a save.
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So you must have, you know, but yeah, that's
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a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, that's not many batters
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per outing. But there are four guys on that team
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that threw 139 innings or more. Carrasco through
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a hundred and at 23 years old through a hundred
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and 49 innings. I don't think that happens today.
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Am I wrong? No, it doesn't. You know, a lot of
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guys get pulled after, you know, five, six innings,
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especially with their pitch count. And no, but
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those guys did log a lot of innings. And again,
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I was used to being a starter my whole career.
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So that was again, it wasn't the physical part.
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It was just the mental part of adjusting to that
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relief role and a setup role. And, you know,
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so it was quite different. Right. Now you end
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up going independent in the Frontier League in
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94, Ohio Valley in the Frontier League. Now,
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if I'm not mistaken, that was the same league
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that Johnstown was in. Yes, it was. Johnstown
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Steel? Johnstown Steel. They weren't part of
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the league that whenever I was there, I believe
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they came in a few years afterwards. And they
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may even have been there a few years before,
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but they weren't part of the league. But it was
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the same Frontier League, yes. So you left the
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organization. How was that something that you
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know? I guess how do you take that and what was
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the what went into that or did they just basically
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say we? Sorry, we're moving on. I mean, what
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was the process? It was difficult. I got a phone
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call from John Bowles who later became a manager
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of the Florida Marlins, but he was our player
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development guy and and Basically said Brad.
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He said we right now have no room at at the AA
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level for you. And you're young enough that hopefully
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that you can continue your career and catch on
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with another team. But we're going to have to
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part ways and, and release you at this time.
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And, you know, and I really thank them for the
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opportunity. And, and he was really genuine about
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it. And I felt that the whole organization itself
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was a class act. And, and sometimes you just
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realize that, you know, you have to go a different
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direction or You know, at that point, you know,
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I had to make make a decision and I wasn't quite
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done yet. And that's why I want that independent
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route. But now the Marlins gave me that the two
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years that I can always look back and say, what
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a great experience. Can you name any of these
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other teams in the in the frontier? You're right.
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Johnstone wasn't in the league. Eerie sailors
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apparently transitioned into that league. I don't
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know if the Seawolves took over, and I think
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that might be the case. Erie might have gotten
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into the Eastern League that next year. I believe
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Erie became the Seawolves in 1994. I'm sorry,
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in 95. In 94, I played that year of independent
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ball, and they were still playing in the old
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Ainsworth field. So it was kind of like a homecoming
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for me when we went up there and played them.
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And they won the league and knocked your team
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out in the semifinal. So that had to be pretty
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weird. Can you name any other teams? There's
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some interesting nicknames in this league. Yeah,
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there was Chillicothe was in there. They also
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had Pikeville, Kentucky. We stayed at the Daniel
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Boon Inn in Pikeville, Kentucky. That was quite
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an experience. probably shouldn't get into but
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it was it was one of those hotels it was it was
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it was a different type of hotel. They were called
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the Kentucky Rifles. Kentucky Rifles yeah I'm
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trying to think who else was in there. Airy Sailors,
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Chillicothe Paints. Chillicothe Paints yeah.
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So there's a team in New Jersey. Lancaster had
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one at that time. Yeah Lancaster Scouts, Newark
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Buffaloes. The All -Star game was in I got a
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chance to play in the All -Star game that year
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and that was also a new Newark Okay, so it was
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it was it was it was a great experience as well.
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They the the host families welcomed us with open
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arms and You know is Hopefully it was it was
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a good chance to try and revive my career. I
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guess right, right Well, it was time to move
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on after that. Did you have any education to
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duck to finish? because of baseball. I have you
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starting at CL in 97, so there's a little bit
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of a gap there. You transitioned in, and I don't
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know if at that point you even had coaching on
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your radar. How did that transition go from there
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to there? Well, basically, when I was done with
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my baseball career, all I had to do was my student
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teaching. OK. And I did my student teaching at
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I started at Red Bank Valley and then I student
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taught at Red Bank Valley. I was in third grade
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and then I student taught at Keystone for my
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second half in fourth grade and then I got the
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job here at Clarion Limestone in 97. How excited
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were you to be to start a baseball program when
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you didn't play high school baseball and as it
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turned out you helped pave the way for some really
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good talent to go through there. How exciting
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was that out of out of the gate? I was it was
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it was great because the the people wanted it
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here and I knew we had something special because
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I saw it in different sports with with basketball
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and football and and you knew the talent was
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here that was going to be able to carry over
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into baseball and to just to get it off off the
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ground was was was a very difficult experience.
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I know we, we spent many, many nights, you know,
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trying to think about how to fundraise money
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and, and really just kind of get the program
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off the ground. And, you know, we softball, we
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started baseball and softball at the same time.
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So we had golf scrambles and, and just different
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things that we just tried to try to get things
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going. But I knew right away that the people
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really wanted, wanted that. one of the sport
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and we just kept moving forward with it. What
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was some of the philosophy you might have picked
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up from your years as a pro and even in college
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under Herm that you really felt was important
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to add into a high school program? I always wanted,
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and anybody that knows the way we did things,
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I always wanted to do things the right way. That
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was my philosophy. We always We wore our hats
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on straight. Nobody wore their hats on backwards.
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Our shirts were always tucked in. And any time
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we played another team that, you know, whether
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it be Union or Carn City or whoever the case,
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whoever it might've been, they always complimented.
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our guys and that meant a lot to me. And you
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know, present yourself as a ball player. Kids
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would always want my players were always too
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well. But how come Barry Bonds can wear his hat
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on backwards? Well, he's in the big leagues.
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You know, we're you're trying. We're just trying
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to do just do things here the way that we see
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fit. And you know, it was that was probably our
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biggest thing. You know, the wins and losses,
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they took care of themselves. But we wanted we
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wanted to basically just try and help young men
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become young men, you know. Well, the wins did
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come because you went 3 -10 -98, 7 -7 -99, and
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then a couple 11 -10 years. And then it was a
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five -year run, I believe, of D -9 finals berths,
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including three straight titles in 0 -2, 0 -3,
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0 -4. And you can't do it without talent, Brad,
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because you definitely had it. You know, the
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one that jumps out is the guy that went the furthest
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in D -1 baseball at Ohio was Hayden Johnston.
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What was, first of all, the overall, I can't
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imagine how much fun those years were, being
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in the mix, being the favorite, being the team
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that, hey, if we get hot, you never know. Because
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Class A baseball in District 9 from that point
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on has always been a threat. And it was before
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that, but it seemed like that might have been
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the time where, hey, the D9 champ has a chance
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to do something big. Yeah, we, Rich, it was,
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it was a great run. And you can't do it without
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talent. You know, you mentioned Hayden Johnston.
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I mean, his, his career speaks for itself. Played
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at Ohio University. He's that kid, and I've talked
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to many coaches. I've talked to just numerous
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people about talent like that. He's that once
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-in - 20 year talent that could just do everything
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for you. And obviously, he ended up with a great
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career himself. But when you surround yourself
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with good people, I was surrounding myself with
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good coaches. And you have the talent. And things
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just have to gel. But I owe it to the talent.
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They played hard. They did things the right way.
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And we were fortunate enough to string. five
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years together where we went on a nice run and
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won three and created a lot of great memories.
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Your 20 -year career you won you were the head
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coach for the first 204 wins of CL history 133
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losses CL's last season just just finished as
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the co -op is going 279 and 193 you were still
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at the ballpark. You're the athletic director
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This transition is gonna be big, but there's
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still talent there Brad the school both schools
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have gotten into that You know kind of gotten
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into this co -op how excited are you to see what
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this co -op can do as? as a program, you know,
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another joint or between the two. There's some
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talent there. There is. And, you know, I knew
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back in 2015 that something eventually is going
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to have to happen because, you know, the numbers
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out at the Little League program were starting
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to go down. And, you know, I warned our board.
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I was even still coaching. I told a couple more
00:27:31.910 --> 00:27:34.069
board members, you know, you might want to look
00:27:34.069 --> 00:27:36.940
into. uh you know some different ways that we
00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:40.380
could maybe pull this together with Clarion and
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um you know it ended up being obviously 11 years
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later but yet um it was it's tough to support
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two high school programs when you have one basically
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one or two senior league teams and um but no
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I think it's going to be a great venture um you
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know Clarion has obviously has done extremely
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well and you know to get an opportunity to to
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come together like that it really probably should
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have happened at least 10 years ago. What's your
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favorite baseball memory as far back as you can
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remember? Favorite baseball memory. We're very
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similar age. I didn't realize we were only one
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year apart so you and I should have a similar
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wheelhouse. to what you can remember. I presume
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you were a Pirates fan. Absolutely. I grew up
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a Pirates fan. How far back can you go? I can
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go back a little bit in that 79 season. But me
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personally, probably one of my favorite memories
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was my only little league no hitter was against
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Lions. Just looking back and I guess that was
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kind of stands out to me and for me, I guess
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the start of it. Would you have worn a jersey
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of a player back in the day like they all do
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now? Who would it be? Without a doubt, Nolan
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Ryan. Nolan Ryan was my hero. Uh, you know, every
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wiffle ball game, every backyard pickup game,
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I always, you know, uh, wanted to be like Nolan
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Ryan and did the things that he did. And, and,
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uh, you know, but, uh, again, he was, he was,
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he was my childhood hero. Awesome. Brad, it's
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great talking baseball with you. Uh, hope to
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see at the field, uh, down the road. Uh, you
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are, you are, you are now you're an elementary
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school teacher as well as an aid, as the AD at
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clarion limestone, right? You're, you're starting
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what year from over there? starting year 30.
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Okay. Brad, thanks for being on the show. Never
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old talking to you about baseball. Rich, I always
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appreciate, you know, I've always appreciated
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the coverage you've given us throughout the years
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and fantastic job you do for the kids. And that's
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that's what's best. All right, man. Appreciate
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it. That was good. Right on the button. 30 minutes.
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We won't get anybody tired of listening to us.
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I can get sucked into a longer one sometimes
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and I think that I think we nailed the good stuff
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there. That's awesome I'll send you I'll send
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you it's gonna be on YouTube. Okay, it'll be
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on I have a podcast did audio only Podcast channel,
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but the YouTube video I'll send you a link and
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you'll be able to look at that. It'll be within
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the next 24 hours. Oh Sounds good. Appreciate
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it. Thanks, Rich. Hey, see ya. Okay. Yep
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It's great to have on a big -time baseball name
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in District 9 history Brad Frazier and Brad I
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must say when people hear your name Perhaps they're
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saying boy. He was a really good coach at Clarion
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limestone and that's a fact baseball team But
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you were a draft pick and a minor league player
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for the Florida Marlins not Miami. It's Florida
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now Brad good to have you on and I'm anxious
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to talk about baseball, right? Thanks, Rich.
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I appreciate it So obviously we talked a little
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bit before the show started on some research
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and I will drop this number out. You were the
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1 ,132nd player selected in the 1992 draft. That
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was the Jim Pissley draft. He was taken in the
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first round, I believe 17th pick, and you were
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a 40th round draft pick out of Clarion University.
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That's correct. So what's neat about this, Brad,
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is you didn't throw one inning of high school
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baseball at Clarion because there's no team.
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How did this happen in 1992 when you got drafted?
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Because you obviously got some recognition enough
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to get on the draft board. Well, it even goes
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back a little further than that. I owe a lot
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of credit to my dad. We went to a lot of tryouts
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and different things that teams were hosting
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and basically got my name out there as best as
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I could. But I was a little nervous my senior
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year, Rich, when I was actually drafted. I started
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off the season with zero wins and three losses.
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So I was going through a period where it was
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like, OK, is this going to happen or not? Statistically,
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the rest of my stats were pretty good. And after
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that third game, things just started clicking.
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And I won like five games in a row. And scouts
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started coming back. And kind of all just fell
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into place after that for me. left handed pitcher.
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Tell me how you got guys out. What was in your
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repertoire? And we should shout out to Rich Herman,
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one of your players. He was the head coach at
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Clarion at the time. Absolutely. Rich Herman,
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Barry McAuliffe. Barry was actually, to me, he
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was our pitching coach. He was really ahead of
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his time. He just knew all the ins and outs of
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pitching and it really helped me tremendously
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and helped me grow as a pitcher. got my name
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out there as well, and it worked out really well
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for us. For me, I should say. Yeah. How'd you
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get guys out? What was Brad Frazier's repertoire?
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I was a mid -80s fastball guy, and my best pitch
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was my curve ball. And I threw a change up sometimes.
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But at that time, I was a two -pitch pitcher.
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And I knew I needed to develop that third pitch,
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and I was working on a change -up. And even in
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the minors, I started working more on the change
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-up as well. But my best pitch was my curveball.
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So you go through your season, like you said,
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you start off slow, you finish better. Going
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into the draft. I mean again, we just talked
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and we'll go to it very few D9 guys have been
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drafted in the history Every the buzz clearly
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in district 9 was where was Jim Pitzley gonna
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go and you know, he was drafted the 17th pick
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in 1992 by the Royals You're a senior in high
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school. You're in college Any any clue because
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it wasn't you know, that wasn't as highly profiled
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back then unless you were a bona fide You know
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prospect any clue that what was gonna happen?
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Yes, there was. I was in Florida. We were on
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our spring training trip in college, and that's
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actually the first time that the Marlins saw
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me. It was scouted by the name of Bill Shear,
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and he was a left -handed pitcher for the Reds
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and the Tigers back in, back in the mid-'80s.
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And he just kept following up with me, and I
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had phone calls from the Mets and the Cardinals
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and the Pirates and some different teams, but
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really they showed the most interest in ultimately
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drafted me and and followed me basically that
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whole season. It's been a few years since they've
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had 40 rounds. I mean Mike Piazza is the famous
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50 what 52nd round draft pick. I'm guessing at
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this point. You're just, hey, draft me. Give
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me my dream. I'll take a shot. How exciting was
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that? And how did you find out? Because the technology
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in 1992 was basically you're getting a phone
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call. And if I remember right, the scouts in
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college, it was kind of a cloak and dagger thing
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on trying to hide stuff. How did you find out?
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And how did you get from getting a phone call
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to winding up for the eerie sailors? Well, in
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that time period, You know, a lot of it was just
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through phone calls. It wasn't computerized or
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anything like that. And I had probably a half
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a dozen teams calling me right up until that
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draft day. And I was actually, Rich Herman, my
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baseball coach, was building a house over in
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the development. He lives now. And he said, hey,
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would you come over and help me pick up rocks?
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So I was picking up rocks and I was married at
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the time my wife called and she said hey the
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Florida Martins are on the phone They would like
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to talk to you. So that's how that kind of all
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took place and through the phone, it was a really
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quick negotiation. I talked to the scout, Bill
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Shear, and he said, we're gonna fly you to Florida.
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Congratulations and welcome to the Florida Marlins,
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but we're gonna fly you to Florida. And since
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I was a senior in college, I got $1 ,000 signing
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bonus and a glove and some spikes from the Marlins
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and a baseball bat. And we're really off to spring
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training. And when I hit spring training was
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probably the most difficult time period for me.
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Uh, cause I was never exposed to anything like
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it. I was, you know, I was maybe the, the smallest
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fish in the big C, I guess, because, um, there
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was, I was now playing against guys from Texas
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and Oklahoma state. And, and, you know, I was
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used to playing against guys from walk Haven
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cow and those types of places, but you know,
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they made me feel reassured that, Hey, you're
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here with everybody else and just give it your
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best shot because you know, Congratulations,
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you know, you're here. Well, and the other interesting
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thing about being drafted by the Marlins in 92,
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they didn't play their first game as an expansion
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club until 1993. Was that kind of exciting, realizing
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that, you know, you're about as new as it gets
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with a team and you get the you're in this new
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situation? Pretty interesting. It was, it was,
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uh, it was the very first draft. It was the 92
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draft for the Florida Marlins and Colorado Rockies
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for that matter. And, um, we, we really got what
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I would call the big league treatment. Um, we
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didn't make big league money, but we were, we
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got the big league treatment because, um, they,
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they, we were their first ball club. And, uh,
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like you mentioned before I was assigned to Erie.
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So now I became the local kid again, just a couple
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hours up the road. And it was really nice to
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have my parents and all my family and friends
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to come to Erie and watch me play. We were in
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the old Ainsworth field, which was a high school
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field. And then a year or two later, they moved
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down to where they play now. But no, it was a
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great experience for that. And Charles Johnson
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was in that draft, their first pick. He's the
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only guy from that draft that made the Bigs,
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which I guess you could classify that as not
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a good draft. No, two guys, two guys. So it was
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Charles Johnson, four time Gold Glove catcher,
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two time All -Star. He played 12 years a lot
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with the Marlins. And Andy Larkin, who threw
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39 games in the Bigs. He was a 25th round pick.
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And we mentioned. The research I'm gonna stick
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my neck out. So out of the out of the dish in
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district the the draft was started in 1965 sent
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from 65 to you I Could only come up with five
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guys that were draft counting you five So I'll
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throw these out and people can shoot me down.
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I cannot think of any anybody else There's plenty
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after you as we discussed Larry Potash 40th round
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from Du Bois left -handed pitcher 1970 1979 Got
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by the name of John Mizorok, first round pick,
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catcher for the Astros. Managed for many years
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in the system. Royals, he was manager of the
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Royals at one point. And then 1985, Bob Bernardo
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of Dubois, Seattle, 25th round in 85. And then
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Jim Pitsley, first round of 1992. So he cast
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the shadow in the rest of District 9, but he
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was an incredible right -handed pitcher for the
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Beavers that took him to the state finals, 17th
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round in 92. That's it. I mean, when you think
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of your place in D9 draft history, Oh, no, we
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forgot one. Bob Maietta, you saved my butt. So
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six, Bob Maietta, another Dubois right -handed
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pitcher. He was in 1989 11th round pick of the
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Detroit Tigers. That's a short list, Brad. Have
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you ever thought about, you know, that's a pretty
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select group? I have, you know, and like you
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and I talked before, it was... and Bob and Jim
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were the big names back then, especially in the
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area. And I just felt very fortunate that I played
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with a lot of good ballplayers, and I was fortunate
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enough to stick with it. And like you mentioned,
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I was at an advantage and a disadvantage. I didn't
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have high school baseball at that time. And I
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think looking back, the advantage was I had a
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fresh arm and was able to log the extra innings
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that I needed to in college. But I think a disadvantage,
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too, was that additional exposure that I didn't
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have in high school that a lot of those guys
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had. But they were great players, obviously,
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and well -deserved. So you, I mean, you played
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Legion baseball. That would have been your summer
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stuff, right? I did. I did. I played Legion baseball
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the whole way up through. Got a chance to see
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Bob Maietta and a lot of those Legion All -Star
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games. And you just knew that he was a really
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great talent at that time. And that was really
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the first time that I got exposure to scouts.
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I remember the Pirate Scouts who signed John
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Smiley. I went, he asked me to come to a workout
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in Warren, Pennsylvania, and I knew at that time
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that I maybe had a chance. And, you know, so
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that's kind of where it started through me through
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Legion baseball, and then obviously, college
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and different things. But it was kind of funny,
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Rich, he asked me the one time, he said, Can
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you send me your high school baseball schedule?
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And I said, I don't have one. He said, what do
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you mean you don't have one? I said, well, we
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don't have high school baseball. He thought I
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was joking. He said, you're kidding me. And I
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said, no. I said, we don't have high school baseball.
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I said, if you want to come watch me, you're
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going to have to watch me in Legion baseball.
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So you probably felt that maybe that was a disadvantage
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when you had to admit that. Yeah, it was. It
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was like I said, it was a disadvantage. And I
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think it was also an advantage. So again, there
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were pros and cons to both sides. So you end
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up in, in, in, um, in Erie and you got to play
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and we mentioned Charles Johnson. Now Johnson
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did not play with you in Erie. He was a little
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higher end, uh, uh, prospect. They, they moved
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up the ranks and I don't know exactly how they
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stocked their system because you wouldn't have
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been at their highest rank, uh, as far as their
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minors. I would assume Johnson would have been
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in triple A. He didn't sign, he didn't sign till
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late. So he didn't, he didn't play that year.
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So my first chance, I got a chance to play as
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a teammate. We were out in King County, Illinois
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in 1993. But again, that first experience, I
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remember that they flew a lot of the people that
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were involved with the Marlins up to Erie and
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the whole Melbourne area was covering the game
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and we were on national TV. So again, we got
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a lot of the big league exposure. At that time
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because it was it was a it was a big deal because
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there was two brand new teams in that 1992 year
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So there's only two teams in the system in 92
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Well, there was there was us and in Erie. There
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was a Gulf Coast leg team down the Cocoa Beach
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Melbourne area and then they had the what they
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called the high desert team, which was a California
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league. So there was actually three teams that
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year. And then in 93, they started to fill the
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rest of the system with AA, AAA, and obviously
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the big league team. Okay. So yeah. So Erie,
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not a bad season. I mean, you got to the finals,
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you finished 40 and 37. You, you, uh, you pitched,
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why wouldn't I have your stats right up? I mean,
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that season included some playoffs and some buzz
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as you just said. And you had a teammate by the
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name of John Lynch, a future NFL Hall of Famer
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who was a pitcher, did not play much. How did
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his season go? Did he end up cycling out the
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football? I guess I didn't look that up real
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good. Nine -time Pro Bowler, so he must have
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been an incredible athlete. He was. I got to
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know John. pretty well throughout the season,
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but he always even said that you know he was
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going to go to the football route at that time.
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There are a few guys that did both like a football
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player who played in summer in the miners. Absolutely,
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he was a Stanford real intelligent guy and he
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only pitched. I if I remember right, he only
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pitched a handful of innings two in college,
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but he had that live arm that they liked and.
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the Marlins signed him, but they just couldn't
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keep him because he was going the football route.
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He threw 29 innings, 2 .15 ERA. You got nine
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games, you pitched in 21 games, I guess, and
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they don't have you starting any. So 31 innings.
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37 strikeouts, Brad. You must have that spin
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going 5 .23 ERA. How did that season go for you?
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And how did you work through that mentally? As
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you said, small bit, you know, big pond, small
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fish. However, because, you know, this is this
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is a big challenge now. It was it was it was
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a longer season. We played like 68 games that
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year and of course throw another handful for
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the playoffs. It. It wasn't the physical challenge,
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it was the mental challenge because I was in
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a role where I was basically a set up man and
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a lot of that had to do with my draft. selection
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and things like that. And they consider me a
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left handed specialist, I would come in and face
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a lot of left handed batters with my curveball
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and things. But I didn't have a lot of wiggle
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room either because I didn't get a chance to
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log many innings. So I was a one two out guy
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back then you didn't have to face three batters
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either back then. But you know, so my ERA was
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really good. For most of the season I had a couple
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rough outings and you know, so that's where that
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oh my you already jumped a little bit but overall
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I was really pleased with the season I had and
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and You know Look, I look forward to coming back
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that following year Midwest and Kane County Cougars.
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Now that's where you have a couple notable teammates.
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As you said, Charles Johnson, you played with
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him and then Edgar Renteria, who had the famous
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home or game winning hit in 97, 97, 97 against
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the Indians to win the World Series. Higher level.
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Was there, was there a market difference between
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Eerie and the Midwest league? Cause that's a,
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that is a level higher. There was. To me, you
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saw a lot of better prospects, I guess. More
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of the higher round draft picks of that year.
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And you wanna talk about a young talent. I believe
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they signed Edgar when he was 15, 16 years old.
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And you just knew that he separated himself from
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a lot of players. And he was gonna be that type
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of big league player. Hector Carrasco was on
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that team. I have a funny story about Hector
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Carrasco. We were playing in Burlington, Iowa,
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and he was a starting pitcher. He played in the
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big leagues for a lot of years. We're sitting
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in the bullpen. And of course, in minor league
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ballparks, the fans are like right there with
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you. They're right behind you. And there was
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a couple that was sitting behind us, a husband
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and wife, and Hector's throwing. And he's throwing
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about 97. And it's one of those not well lit
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ballparks. And the guy turned to his wife and
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he said, boy, I hope they're not shooting at
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us. And we're all kind of like looking around
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and laughing a little bit. And here it was Hector
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Carrusco with his 97 -mile -an -hour fastball.
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It sounded like a 30 -30 going off. And this
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couple thought that somebody was shooting a gun
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off in the background. Look at these innings
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pitched Brad. Now you were, as you said, situational
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lefty. 39 outings, 30 .1 innings with a save.
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So you must have, you know, but yeah, that's
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a lot. That's a lot. Yeah, that's not many batters
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per outing. But there are four guys on that team
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that threw 139 innings or more. Carrasco through
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a hundred and at 23 years old through a hundred
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and 49 innings. I don't think that happens today.
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Am I wrong? No, it doesn't. You know, a lot of
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guys get pulled after, you know, five, six innings,
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especially with their pitch count. And no, but
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those guys did log a lot of innings. And again,
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I was used to being a starter my whole career.
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So that was again, it wasn't the physical part.
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It was just the mental part of adjusting to that
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relief role and a setup role. And, you know,
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so it was quite different. Right. Now you end
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up going independent in the Frontier League in
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94, Ohio Valley in the Frontier League. Now,
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if I'm not mistaken, that was the same league
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that Johnstown was in. Yes, it was. Johnstown
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Steel? Johnstown Steel. They weren't part of
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the league that whenever I was there, I believe
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they came in a few years afterwards. And they
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may even have been there a few years before,
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but they weren't part of the league. But it was
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the same Frontier League, yes. So you left the
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organization. How was that something that you
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know? I guess how do you take that and what was
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the what went into that or did they just basically
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say we? Sorry, we're moving on. I mean, what
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was the process? It was difficult. I got a phone
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call from John Bowles who later became a manager
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of the Florida Marlins, but he was our player
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development guy and and Basically said Brad.
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He said we right now have no room at at the AA
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level for you. And you're young enough that hopefully
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that you can continue your career and catch on
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with another team. But we're going to have to
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part ways and, and release you at this time.
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And, you know, and I really thank them for the
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opportunity. And, and he was really genuine about
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it. And I felt that the whole organization itself
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was a class act. And, and sometimes you just
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realize that, you know, you have to go a different
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direction or You know, at that point, you know,
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I had to make make a decision and I wasn't quite
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done yet. And that's why I want that independent
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route. But now the Marlins gave me that the two
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years that I can always look back and say, what
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a great experience. Can you name any of these
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other teams in the in the frontier? You're right.
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Johnstone wasn't in the league. Eerie sailors
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apparently transitioned into that league. I don't
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know if the Seawolves took over, and I think
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that might be the case. Erie might have gotten
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into the Eastern League that next year. I believe
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Erie became the Seawolves in 1994. I'm sorry,
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in 95. In 94, I played that year of independent
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ball, and they were still playing in the old
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Ainsworth field. So it was kind of like a homecoming
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for me when we went up there and played them.
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And they won the league and knocked your team
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out in the semifinal. So that had to be pretty
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weird. Can you name any other teams? There's
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some interesting nicknames in this league. Yeah,
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there was Chillicothe was in there. They also
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had Pikeville, Kentucky. We stayed at the Daniel
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Boon Inn in Pikeville, Kentucky. That was quite
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an experience. probably shouldn't get into but
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it was it was one of those hotels it was it was
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it was a different type of hotel. They were called
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the Kentucky Rifles. Kentucky Rifles yeah I'm
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trying to think who else was in there. Airy Sailors,
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Chillicothe Paints. Chillicothe Paints yeah.
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So there's a team in New Jersey. Lancaster had
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one at that time. Yeah Lancaster Scouts, Newark
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Buffaloes. The All -Star game was in I got a
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chance to play in the All -Star game that year
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and that was also a new Newark Okay, so it was
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it was it was it was a great experience as well.
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They the the host families welcomed us with open
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arms and You know is Hopefully it was it was
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a good chance to try and revive my career. I
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guess right, right Well, it was time to move
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on after that. Did you have any education to
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duck to finish? because of baseball. I have you
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starting at CL in 97, so there's a little bit
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of a gap there. You transitioned in, and I don't
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know if at that point you even had coaching on
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your radar. How did that transition go from there
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to there? Well, basically, when I was done with
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my baseball career, all I had to do was my student
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teaching. OK. And I did my student teaching at
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I started at Red Bank Valley and then I student
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taught at Red Bank Valley. I was in third grade
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and then I student taught at Keystone for my
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second half in fourth grade and then I got the
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job here at Clarion Limestone in 97. How excited
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were you to be to start a baseball program when
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you didn't play high school baseball and as it
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turned out you helped pave the way for some really
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good talent to go through there. How exciting
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was that out of out of the gate? I was it was
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it was great because the the people wanted it
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here and I knew we had something special because
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I saw it in different sports with with basketball
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and football and and you knew the talent was
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here that was going to be able to carry over
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into baseball and to just to get it off off the
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ground was was was a very difficult experience.
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I know we, we spent many, many nights, you know,
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trying to think about how to fundraise money
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and, and really just kind of get the program
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off the ground. And, you know, we softball, we
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started baseball and softball at the same time.
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So we had golf scrambles and, and just different
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things that we just tried to try to get things
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going. But I knew right away that the people
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really wanted, wanted that. one of the sport
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and we just kept moving forward with it. What
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was some of the philosophy you might have picked
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up from your years as a pro and even in college
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under Herm that you really felt was important
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to add into a high school program? I always wanted,
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and anybody that knows the way we did things,
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I always wanted to do things the right way. That
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was my philosophy. We always We wore our hats
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on straight. Nobody wore their hats on backwards.
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Our shirts were always tucked in. And any time
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we played another team that, you know, whether
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it be Union or Carn City or whoever the case,
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whoever it might've been, they always complimented.
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our guys and that meant a lot to me. And you
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know, present yourself as a ball player. Kids
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would always want my players were always too
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well. But how come Barry Bonds can wear his hat
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on backwards? Well, he's in the big leagues.
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You know, we're you're trying. We're just trying
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to do just do things here the way that we see
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fit. And you know, it was that was probably our
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biggest thing. You know, the wins and losses,
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they took care of themselves. But we wanted we
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wanted to basically just try and help young men
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become young men, you know. Well, the wins did
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come because you went 3 -10 -98, 7 -7 -99, and
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then a couple 11 -10 years. And then it was a
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five -year run, I believe, of D -9 finals berths,
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including three straight titles in 0 -2, 0 -3,
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0 -4. And you can't do it without talent, Brad,
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because you definitely had it. You know, the
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one that jumps out is the guy that went the furthest
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in D -1 baseball at Ohio was Hayden Johnston.
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What was, first of all, the overall, I can't
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imagine how much fun those years were, being
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in the mix, being the favorite, being the team
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that, hey, if we get hot, you never know. Because
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Class A baseball in District 9 from that point
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on has always been a threat. And it was before
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that, but it seemed like that might have been
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the time where, hey, the D9 champ has a chance
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to do something big. Yeah, we, Rich, it was,
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it was a great run. And you can't do it without
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talent. You know, you mentioned Hayden Johnston.
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I mean, his, his career speaks for itself. Played
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at Ohio University. He's that kid, and I've talked
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to many coaches. I've talked to just numerous
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people about talent like that. He's that once
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-in - 20 year talent that could just do everything
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for you. And obviously, he ended up with a great
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career himself. But when you surround yourself
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with good people, I was surrounding myself with
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good coaches. And you have the talent. And things
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just have to gel. But I owe it to the talent.
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They played hard. They did things the right way.
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And we were fortunate enough to string. five
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years together where we went on a nice run and
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won three and created a lot of great memories.
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Your 20 -year career you won you were the head
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coach for the first 204 wins of CL history 133
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losses CL's last season just just finished as
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the co -op is going 279 and 193 you were still
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at the ballpark. You're the athletic director
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This transition is gonna be big, but there's
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still talent there Brad the school both schools
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have gotten into that You know kind of gotten
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into this co -op how excited are you to see what
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this co -op can do as? as a program, you know,
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another joint or between the two. There's some
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talent there. There is. And, you know, I knew
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back in 2015 that something eventually is going
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to have to happen because, you know, the numbers
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out at the Little League program were starting
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to go down. And, you know, I warned our board.
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I was even still coaching. I told a couple more
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board members, you know, you might want to look
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into. uh you know some different ways that we
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could maybe pull this together with Clarion and
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um you know it ended up being obviously 11 years
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later but yet um it was it's tough to support
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two high school programs when you have one basically
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one or two senior league teams and um but no
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I think it's going to be a great venture um you
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know Clarion has obviously has done extremely
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well and you know to get an opportunity to to
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come together like that it really probably should
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have happened at least 10 years ago. What's your
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favorite baseball memory as far back as you can
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remember? Favorite baseball memory. We're very
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similar age. I didn't realize we were only one
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year apart so you and I should have a similar
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wheelhouse. to what you can remember. I presume
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you were a Pirates fan. Absolutely. I grew up
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a Pirates fan. How far back can you go? I can
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go back a little bit in that 79 season. But me
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personally, probably one of my favorite memories
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was my only little league no hitter was against
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Lions. Just looking back and I guess that was
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kind of stands out to me and for me, I guess
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the start of it. Would you have worn a jersey
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of a player back in the day like they all do
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now? Who would it be? Without a doubt, Nolan
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Ryan. Nolan Ryan was my hero. Uh, you know, every
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wiffle ball game, every backyard pickup game,
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I always, you know, uh, wanted to be like Nolan
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Ryan and did the things that he did. And, and,
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uh, you know, but, uh, again, he was, he was,
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he was my childhood hero. Awesome. Brad, it's
00:29:30.859 --> 00:29:33.380
great talking baseball with you. Uh, hope to
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see at the field, uh, down the road. Uh, you
00:29:36.019 --> 00:29:38.059
are, you are, you are now you're an elementary
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school teacher as well as an aid, as the AD at
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clarion limestone, right? You're, you're starting
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what year from over there? starting year 30.
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Okay. Brad, thanks for being on the show. Never
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old talking to you about baseball. Rich, I always
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appreciate, you know, I've always appreciated
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the coverage you've given us throughout the years
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and fantastic job you do for the kids. And that's
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that's what's best. All right, man. Appreciate
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it. That was good. Right on the button. 30 minutes.
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We won't get anybody tired of listening to us.
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I can get sucked into a longer one sometimes
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and I think that I think we nailed the good stuff
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there. That's awesome I'll send you I'll send
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you it's gonna be on YouTube. Okay, it'll be
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on I have a podcast did audio only Podcast channel,
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but the YouTube video I'll send you a link and
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you'll be able to look at that. It'll be within
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the next 24 hours. Oh Sounds good. Appreciate
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it. Thanks, Rich. Hey, see ya. Okay. Yep
