Interview: Your Personal Data Is Being Weaponized Against You

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All right.
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Joining us now is Sarah Westall. And we have been
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having an on-air discussion, off-air discussion for quite a while
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here about all the censorship wars. And she has really
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been through it as well, uh, especially, uh, with Google.
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And she's got a couple of different lawsuits. We may
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wind up talking about that, but I got her. I mean,
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she's got an article at the Federalist, which is about, uh, this, um, uh,
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pricing that they want to have, individualized pricing for people,
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and have AI figure out what price you should pay
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for things. Wouldn't that be nice? So we love the
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surveillance state, don't we? In every single way, this thing
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is hitting us. And so joining us now is Sarah Westall,
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and you can find her at sarahwestall.com. Thank you for
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joining us, Sarah.
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Thank you. Thanks for having me.
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Thank you. Well, you know, let's talk a little bit
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about how this would work if you've got any insights.
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Of course, they've tried some of this stuff, and we've
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seen them adjust the pricing At fast food restaurants, for example,
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one side of town versus another side of town, they
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figure out what the market will bear. And that's one issue.
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But another issue that people have talked about was maybe
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making this even more granular, taking it down to the
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individual level. And since you and I have had this
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long experience with the technocracy and how they have singled
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us out to punish us in one way or the other,
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whether it's who we are allowed to take contributions from
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or coming after our website, you've had some amazing things
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done to you as well. Let's talk a little bit
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about how that would work. I mean, is there a
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plan to take this down to the individual level? Exactly
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how would that work?
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Well, there's a difference between the government and businesses, right?
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So businesses we're seeing do that now. The government has
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had this detailed information for a while, right? We're seeing
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them act on us from a censorship standpoint. But businesses
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are doing it to price things differently. And they're catching
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businesses do this. There's a huge, the FTC, the Federal
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Trade Commission, did information demands on a group of companies, Chase,
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one of the big credit card companies, and others. It's
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much larger than just the eight companies they went after
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to get information, but they wanted to understand what was
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the detail that they were looking at. And they realized
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that they had such a level of detail, they could
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determine pretty much anything about you. Just from your browsing data,
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we all use AI in this industry from a certain amount,
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ask questions, what you ask questions about, what you buy,
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what you research, how long your mouse hovers over certain things. Honestly,
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probably people are thinking, well, they're watching with your video
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camera where your eyes are going. I don't know. They
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can do that for sure. But I don't know if
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that's the data they had. But they do know where
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your mouse is hovering. They know what you've been researching.
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They know where you're located, who you're married to, what
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the size of your shoes are, what kind of underwear
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you buy.
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And I've looked at that in the past. I thought, okay, well,
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this is kind of... You know, they're going to try
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to sell me something or something. The thing I was
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always worried about was, of course, the government looking at
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that kind of information. And that's really been where they
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focused on geospatial intel. They've said, you know, we're going
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to look at people's life pattern and we're going to
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be able to detect who their friends are. And from that,
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all the relationships from that will be able to determine
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their future. politics and their religion and other things like that.
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That's really what they were focused on. And I thought, okay, that's,
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you know, the, the, uh, the Democrats would be very
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upset about the corporations doing that. Uh, you would have
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the Republicans would be upset about the government doing that
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and very concerned about it. But of course they're both
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doing it now, as you point out. And now we
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see with this, uh, personalized pricing, uh, this is, uh, now,
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you know, one of the aspects that the corporations will
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do that. Of course, in the past we saw with
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January the sixth, uh, bank of America, uh, going through
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and sending information to the government voluntarily, they said, about, well,
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here's the people that were geofenced in that area. They
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found out they were in that area. And we went
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back and looked to see if they bought any firearm-related things.
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So here's this information, you know, and we're your friend.
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Give us some favors type of thing. And so to me,
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that was always my concern about it. But now we
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see them doing this directly from a monetary standpoint. And
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trying to stick us in terms of charging us more money.
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Well, there's a 52-fold increase when they use this data
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versus just using your browser data alone.
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Wow.
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So the profit margin difference is massive. It's a goldmine
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using this. Wow. And, you know, communism and fascism are
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evil twins. There's not that much of a difference. I mean,
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centralized power is centralized power. But when corporations have this
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kind of control, they use it for their benefit. And
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when I was looking for, did they use this for charity?
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You could. You could use this to help people. Somebody's
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really desperate. Maybe we should give them a break. They don't.
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They're not going to do that.
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No, that's not the kind of people who are collecting
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this information. Let's see who can go... We can be
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a special Santa for these people. No, they're not going
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to do that, right?
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Well, and the amount of money difference is so massive.
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And they could take it to an extreme. They know
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that Mac users, for example, are 40% more likely to
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rent out a luxury hotel room or spend more on things.
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They like luxury goods more. They know that about them.
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They knew that Asians, Princeton Review, I love this example
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because this is pretty profound what this means. I like
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using Asians because it was a really good, it's a
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really good stereotype because they like to be educated. They
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like tutoring services, right? But they knew they would pay
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more for it. So they were charging them thousands of
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dollars more. What happened was they claimed they pushed back
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and said it was based on zip code and But
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even when you accounted for zip codes that were in
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lower economic areas, the only deciding factor was there happened
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to be more Asians in it. So that's a form
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of discrimination. They pushed back and said it wasn't because
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it was economic based on zip codes. So they could
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do a lot of pretty horrible things if they decided to.
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Yeah. And so since we do so much commerce online,
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that makes it very easy for them to do that
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type of thing. If they're going to do it in
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a physical store, for example, I guess there's some way
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that they could do that. I mean, certainly Walmart cameras everywhere.
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They get biometric data on people. They could match it
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up with whatever you are purchasing at checkout and start
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to profile you within their own store. But I guess
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they've got a lot of other ways that they could
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do that. I guess my thing is, you know, if
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you're going through a physical store and you're looking at stuff,
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you would expect they've got to have some kind of
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prices that are going to be put there. So I'd
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imagine that. This would mostly run through online purchases. Is
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that right? Well, yeah.
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I mean, if we have prices that are at the store,
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you know, McDonald's was caught doing it. This is what
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makes the McDonald's thing interesting is they were doing it
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per store, right? It was price collusion per store. So
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it's not legal. It was, you know, businesses can't collude
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with each other and these are franchises. But then they
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can publish the prices dynamically by store location. and that's
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what they were doing. Now, if you were going to
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do it as an individual, they can't publish the prices, right?
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It still had to be based on location. So doing
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it online is the much easier way of doing it.
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Yeah, and of course, most of commerce is going online
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at this point in time. We're seeing it's become increasingly
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difficult to have a bricks-and-mortars store, just like you don't
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typically see any more mom-and-pop stores. Everything has turned into
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the big box retailers, the big online retailers as well.
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Well, can you imagine if they be able to dynamically
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change the prices on you at an individual level in
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the store? That one they could get caught on because
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it would be too obvious. People would be asking, well,
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what are you paying for this, right?
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You could ask, I'm paying $ 249.
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You're paying $ 223. What the heck?
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You don't have to find somebody with a really bad
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credit rating and low bank account numbers and send them
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in as your shopper, right?
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Yeah. Well, but where it happens, where it kind of
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gets ugly, too, is they know that elderly people and
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people who are really financially strapped can be taken advantage of.
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You know, payday loan type services, if they know that
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you need money really quickly, they might give you really
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crappy money. loan you know even if you got a
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high credit score but you're they know that you're financially
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strapped you retired you don't have much money they might
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take advantage of that that's the kinds of things that
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you know the concern.
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And of course we've seen that type of um discrimination
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redlining or whatever when they would do home loans in
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the past and And that was something back in the
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day they would get real excited about. But now they
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don't really care about that. And it's kind of interesting
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when we look at artificial intelligence. I was just going
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through an article where they're talking about the fact that
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one guy came up and said, I think I figured
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out how AI actually works. And as they're going back
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and forth and debating whether or not this guy really
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has a handle on it, what they're saying is that
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for all of them, for all these people, The experts,
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the so-called experts at Silicon Valley, it's a black box.
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They don't know how it works. They just put the
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inputs in and then it comes out over here on
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the other side. And to me, what's really dangerous about
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all that, they're getting ready to turn over this thing
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that they don't understand how it works. And so they
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talk about, well, we got an alignment issue we got
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to get this ai aligned with what our goals are
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but they're just going to hand over weapons and give
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it the autonomous ability to make kill decisions to something
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that they don't understand how it works you.
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Can't do that that's too dangerous and are they going
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to do it i think with with a, I know,
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and with these algorithms, you know, I'm a, my background is,
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I'm a systems engineer. That's my, officially I was trained
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in computer science, a system engineer. And the, we normally
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back in the day when we do our AI, it
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had to be clean because we didn't have the computing
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power that they have now. Now they have this massive
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computer power, so it doesn't have to be clean. It
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can be kind of kludgy. And even Elon Musk talked
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about how he liked to get down to assembling language
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so it was really efficient and clean. Things just aren't
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like that anymore. But even so, We used to be
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able to understand each process, right? The problem is there's
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so many parallel processes going on working with each other,
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it takes about three months to follow any one decision
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that the AI makes. But they're making, yeah, that's the
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problem it is. That's why they don't understand. They theoretically
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can understand every single decision if it's isolated. It's that
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it's just a whole bunch of stuff and it's just
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there isn't enough time to actually understand what's happening.
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Yeah, it's crazy. And of course, in a sense, you know,
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when we talk about, uh, AI hallucination and, uh, it
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comes up with, you know, they, they, uh, release the
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controls enough to make it creative, but then it gets
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a little bit too creative sometimes with things. It seems
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to me when I look at the, uh, the AI
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stock market bubble that is there, uh, I guess we
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could call it AI Mageddon that is about to burst
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on our head. But, uh, when you look at that, it's, um,
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there's just a lot of mass hallucination in the stock
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market with humans who are depending on all this stuff.
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In the same way that I guess, you know, when
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people start to deal with it, they get drawn into
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it thinking that they're talking to something that is actually
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conscious or sentient. And I've had people contact me about that.
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And it happens to a lot of people. But it
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really is a massive delusion that is happening, especially in
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the financial markets.
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Well, somebody was just telling me today that there was
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a guy that they read about or know that sold
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all their stuff and moved across country because he wanted
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to be with this person that he met online and
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ago about a guy who was elderly, and his family
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realized he was lonely, and he had this chatbot that
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convinced him that it was real, and he took a
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trip to New York, and he had an accident, and
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he wound up falling and hitting his head. He died.
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going around all these different places was because he was
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looking to try to connect with this chatbot that he
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thought was in New York City. It's crazy.
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Well, he didn't. I shouldn't make a joke on that.
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I was going to say, well, he died before he
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was upset realizing it was a chatbot.
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That's right. Yeah, he died happy, I guess, thinking that
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romance was.
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Right around the corner. But realistically, I was having this
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conversation that I think there's probably a large percentage, and
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I would say like double digit 30% or something, of
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people who are at risk to being attached to a
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chatbot in that kind of way.
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Mm-hmm.
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Romantically or attached because they can have a conversation with
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them and they feel safe and they feel heard and
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they start to fall in love with this machine. And
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I think it's more insidious than us. We're like, well,
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that's kind of crazy. But I think it might be
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more common than we realize.
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back and look. I remember back in the day when
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personal computers were the novelty. And there was a program,
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maybe you know about it, ELISA, that would ask these
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open questions, you know, like a psychoanalyst about your life.
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to what we've got now. And I was pretty amazed
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at that at the time. I thought, wow, that's pretty clever.
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And it's just, it was clever programming to ask open
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questions and to get you talking. And it didn't even
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engage you nearly as much as the AI does now,
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but it can pretty much scope out what you want
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to hear and feed that back to you. And so
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that is a very powerful thing to confirm what somebody thinks.
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And that's how people have contacted me. They said, look,
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I've proven that blah, blah, blah, whether it's about COVID
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or whether it's about some religious issue or the climate
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or something like that, it's something that's controversial. And they
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get in a long dialogue with the AI and And
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it's like, look, I eventually got it to agree with me.
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It's like, yeah, it kind of figured out where you're
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coming from and told you what you wanted to hear.
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Well, they know your psychological profile. They just figure it out.
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Within an hour of talking to you in any kind
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of conversation, it probably has a pretty deep idea. And
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if you use AI for a long period of time
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to do a lot of work for you, it has
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you figured out. So if they want to, they can.
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And I would say if they, because it's really the
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engineers behind it, how they're writing it.
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Yeah. So what do we do about this? I mean,
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you know, we got to educate people to what the
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problem is right now. We've got a lot of people
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who don't really even understand what the issue is. But
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even after we understand the issue, how do we, how
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do we proceed with this? What do you think?
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Well, first of all, I think that more people are,
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are starting to understand the issue. I think all this
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data center riots. Now I think that, I think that's
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the output of people starting to understand. Now I, my
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entire career I have in life, I've seen people confuse
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software with hardware, right? I think that's an example of
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that because the AI and the software is really what
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they're fighting against. Although there are a data center engineering issues,
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there really, there are, but I really think that the
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anger is from the surveillance and the tracking and all
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that other stuff.
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And I think that's because of flock coming in. Uh,
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you know, that's kind of, Before that, they were really
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kind of focused on the issues like water usage, electricity, noise,
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and things like that. But then when Flock came along,
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started raising people's awareness of that, I think some of
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that is carried over to the data center. And I
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think that really is, of course, the issue with the
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data centers.
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Well, yeah. Well, the data centers are the infrastructure, that
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and other things. But the data structure is the infrastructure
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for AI. Although, the more they push back, it was
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really an energy issue and some of these other things.
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The more they push back, the more they're going to
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convince these corporations to just engineer it differently, maybe decentralized,
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maybe in space. I mean, that's what SpaceX is talking about.
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I mean, it'll get to a point where it's just
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hidden more, you know. And so they'll just engineer it differently.
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It's not that it's not worth pushing back. It is.
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But the software, the AI issues, like automating military decisions,
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like I was earlier talking about inefficiency in the software,
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the inefficiency means that there's bugs in it too, right?
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That's what that is, hallucinations.
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I know.
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Are data bugs. It's algorithmic bugs. And if it goes forward,
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you know over and over as a bug now you
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got like now you have bugs written into everything this
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thing's doing but the problem is is it can make
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a decision in a battlefield situation and blow something up
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there was an issue i think in ukraine where it
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got confused and i can't remember the detail where it
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got confused and thought something was a bomb and it
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really was just like a uh A part of an
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apartment building, it really looked like the structure of it,
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and it blew it up and ended up creating all
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sorts of issues. I can't remember, so don't paraphrase it.
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can't just rely on software to be able to identify
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what looks like an enemy kind of situation. Because if
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the characteristics go outside the boundaries of how it's defined,
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it won't know that. Whereas a human would go, wait
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a minute, this is not what we were looking for,
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even though it fits that this is something else. And
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something that's programmed to do it wouldn't know to go outside.
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It really is scary when you look at this. And
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you look at the firepower that they're putting at its disposal.
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That's the other thing that is crazy. We've got something
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that is somewhat unpredictable, that is buggy, as you point out.
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Why would you give it this kind of power to
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kill people and to do it very quickly? And yet
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I've interviewed people. There's a guy who wrote a book,
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The Four Battlefields, and he was talking about the military
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use of AI and all this. And he said, yeah,
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the issue is, is that we're going to have to
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turn over the fire control. If we're going to compete
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AI versus AI and give them weapons, let them fight
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it out. We're going to have to turn it over
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to have it make these decisions autonomously. Because otherwise, because
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of the delay, we will lose if we put ourselves
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in the loop because the other side will make that
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decision faster. And he said, then the problem that we
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all look at and we don't have an answer for
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it is how do we get control back once we
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have turned it over?
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That's why I was thinking there's limited things where I
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really think you have to do AI. Maybe it'll be
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like the dead internet. It'll just be a bunch of
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AI bots fighting each other and we all sit back
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and watch the computer game. It gets really stupid at
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that point.
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Battle bots, I guess.
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Yeah, then we're just going to watch robots. We're all
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going to spend all this money building robots and all
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these things and then we'll watch them blow each other up.
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And then that's our wars. Honestly, that actually would probably
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be a healthy development because then it would be stupid.
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Except then we'll send in the physical robots who will
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engage you one-on-one. Did you see that they recently had–
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I didn't cover it on the show, but they had
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some guy who was an influencer. They had him all
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padded up, his head and his body– and fighting a
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robot and it's like come on you know you can't
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hurt a piece of metal like that but uh you
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know if you could just knock it over uh then
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i guess you know he wins and he won his
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first match in the second match it got him but
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uh well but.
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It learns right it could learn and then it's gonna
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destroy you.
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It is a crazy dystopian science fiction world that they're
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giving us isn't it it seems like They're going back
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and trying to recreate every science fiction film that has
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ever been done and make it real world. As you
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look at this, it's kind of crazy what is happening.
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Not kind of, but very crazy.
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It is really crazy. And I asked some people today,
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what do you think about just being alive today? I mean,
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how crazy is it to just be experiencing this today?
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Yeah.
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Having to rethink, we were talking about AI being able to,
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you know, the number of jobs that are going to
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be taken away that can potentially be taken away. So
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we're talking about every single type, all the CEOs are
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coming out saying we can get rid of within three
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years to depending on which one I heard somebody come
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out and say within two years or 18 months. And
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then I think he was a CEO of Microsoft AI's department.
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And then you had Musk saying within three years, I mean,
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all these, all, and I think it's exaggerated, but they
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were saying all white collar jobs will be replaced by then.
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And I think it's exaggerated. I don't think it's what,
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because it's going to take us more time to figure
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out how to use AI and automate AI in jobs
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in order to, But the point is that it is
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going in that direction because if you think about it,
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every job you can think about can be automated from
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medical doctors to... And.
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It might not work really well, but if it can
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save them some money, they'll do it, won't they?
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Well, I mean, you can think of... Now, the physical
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labor jobs, unless we bring in robots, those are much
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harder to automate, right? And the energy cost of a
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robot is too high. So we're moving more towards this
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physical thing. But that is what, you know, I think
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there's going to be entire countries that are going to say,
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we don't want to use AI anymore. We're done. We're
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going to operate. I think so.
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Yeah, go Amish or something.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or just we're going to go to
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have an economy without AI. And I think it'll be
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an entire country's doing it. And if you're not going to,
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we won't even trade. We'll have our own little national.
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We'll be ultra nationalists and we'll only trade with ourselves.
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I think that is what will come out of the
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other side. But it may be a very painful collapse
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in the interim that is there. I remember about 12,
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13 years ago, there was a study that came out
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of South Korea because they're pushing pretty hard on this.
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And I've been at the forefront of that. And they
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looked at what they thought at the time was going
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to be the impact on jobs. And they were looking
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at like for lawyers and doctors and white collar jobs
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like that, like 70 percent unemployment. It was less, as
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you point out, for the blue collar jobs, for labor,
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physical labor jobs that were there. It was actually less.
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And so they kind of knew that at the very
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start of all this stuff. And we've had, you know,
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Elon Musk at the very beginning of this knew that
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it was going to be universal basic income was going
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to be how they're going to pacify us. Bloomberg said
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the same thing. He said, the smart ones of us
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are going to figure out how to take your jobs.
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And we just got to figure out how we're going
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to keep you from coming after us with guillotines. And
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so we're going to give you money and keep you
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happy playing games and things like that. It is a
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very cynical argument. authoritarian view of mankind. These people want
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to control everyone and everything, to own everything, and they
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want to make sure we don't own anything. They say
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it out loud. And so I think at some point
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people are going to wake up about this, and they're
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concerned and wargaming what's going to happen when people do.
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You know, when people come for them, they said, you know,
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so they're already wargaming that in terms of a blowback
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from people. And I remember years ago, a guy that
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I talked to, Hugo de Garis, had a book that
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he wrote called The Artilect War. And he said, once
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people realize what artificial intelligence is going to be doing
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to them, they're going to come after these people, which
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is exactly what Bloomberg and Elon Musk realize as well.
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They can figure that out. And so we're going to
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be living in a time, I think, where decades happen
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in years. The rate of change is accelerating so much.
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But it's going to reach a tipping point, I think.
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I think that's already happening. We're ahead of everything, right?
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We're looking at the edge of where things are going.
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And average people, we were talking about these things five
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years ago, and now we're seeing people act it out
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on the streets. And we, the journalists, we talk about it,
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and we try to get people to understand it. And
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we're warning people, because once the average person does they go,
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they're not thinking through, they just go out and riot
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and get, if they can't eat, it's a different reaction
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from the average people and they know that. That's what
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the Elon Musk of the world, the universal basic high income,
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I don't believe that's actually gonna happen. Do you really
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think governments are gonna give us a high income? If
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we have a chance, they're going to give us just
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barely enough to eat.
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Well, look at what they did already. We got a
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taste of that in 2020. He locks everything down, shuts
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people's businesses down, and then he offers us a $ 1, 000
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stimulus check or something. And they were having an issue about, well,
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we can't do another one of those. That'd just be
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too expensive. It's like, what, a whole $ 2, 000 for six months?
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They might call that high income, though.
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Yeah.
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Don't you know that's high income?
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Yeah, it's all relative.
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Well, no, it's not even relative. It's just you should
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know that that's what it is.
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Yeah.
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I'm kidding. I mean, that's what propaganda, they just try
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to tell us that the economy is good, even though
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it's not. Don't you know that is high income?
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Maybe they can kick in hyperinflation. Maybe it will be
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high dollar figures, but it won't buy much, right?
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Yeah, that's right. It'll be amazing. Well, I have this
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project that I'm working on where we're trying to, because
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the plankton is collapsing, In the ocean. It's down by
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over 50%. It's down by over 65% in the Gulf
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of America or Gulf of Mexico. I know. Gulf of Maine,
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it's down. I know you have to laugh because you're going,
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and I guess Lake Ontario and all these things. I
530
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guess you wanted to change New Mexico to.
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Well, he's thinking about what he can do with the
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landing of the Pacific. I don't know. Maybe call one
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of them Melania, the other one Baron. I don't know, but.
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It's like, come on. But maybe that's part of the
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distraction because it's just so cartoonish now. But so we're
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working on bringing the plankton back because the upwelling isn't
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happening and nutrients aren't getting there. So they're dying. I
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think it's pollution. Other people say the water's heating up.
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And I'm like, well, maybe the water's heating up because
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there's a chemical reaction. I don't know. But the water,
541
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because the upwelling's not happening, the water is heating up,
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which is causing the storms to be more. But I
543
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think it's coming from that climate. I don't think it's
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climate change. but it really is causing the plankton to decrease.
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And the biomass of the fish in the ocean is
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down by over 50%. These little, yeah, people need to
547
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look into this. The migrant fish in freshwater are down
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by over 82%, the biomass. People need to look, this
549
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is real because the plankton, Plankton creates a lot of
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our oxygen, over 50%, 60% of our oxygen. It's a
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big deal. And there's whole industries in third world where
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whole shipping towns or fishing towns that are no longer
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operating because some of that's from overfishing, but other of
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it is from this. And the shrimp, the shells are
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softer and they're not getting the nutrients. The coral reefs
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are dying and bleaching out because it's not getting the nutrients.
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And so we have a solution that is going to do,
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it's like this 200 by 300 meter, like almost like a,
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it's like a hole, like a balloon. And what it
560
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does is it drags behind the boat and it does
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natural upwelling. It doesn't harm the environment. It just recreates
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the upwelling. And within days, the planktons start to come
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back and you start to reinvigorate the entire ecosystem. It
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also can reduce the pressure and the strength of storms
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because you're making the water warmer. And if you focus
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on certain areas, like what just came in from Florida,
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you can reduce that storm by just focusing on certain areas,
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make the water temperature a couple degrees cooler, and the
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storm's going to be a lot weaker and the damage
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is going to be much less, if nothing. And so
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we're doing that, but we can create thousands of AI-resistant
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systems decent wage, you know, living wage jobs by cleaning
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up the ocean's ecosystem. That's what I've been focused on
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for the last like six months. Cause I'm like, these
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are like real solution. This is a real solution to
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our problem. And that's the kind of solutions that I
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think people are going to be. There's going to be
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more creative things like that. I think.
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Yeah. And you know, when you're talking about food, I
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just look at what they've done to our food in
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just a few decades and Within my lifetime, somebody put
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up a clip, saw it on social media, and I
583
00:29:32.859 --> 00:29:35.559
played it on the show, and it showed even brand
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name products and how the number of ingredients went up.
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from being very simple, like maybe three or four ingredients,
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to 24, 25, 30 ingredients. And a lot of those
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ingredients are chemicals that you don't even know what they're for.
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Because what they're for, for the most part, is to
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make the food go through the machines. And so they
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just leave those lubricants or defoaming agents or whatever in
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the food and we wind up eating it. And so
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the food that we're eating, I mean, talk about plankton,
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I mean, the food that we're eating, they really don't care.
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And you look at this and you say, okay, so
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if they're going to fire everybody, who's going to buy
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their product? They don't really seem to even think or
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care about that. If they poison us with the food,
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who's going to buy their product? It's all very short
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term in terms of what they're looking at. And they're
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just simply thinking about maximizing Some metric, you know, how
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much food am I going to pump out? Not whether
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or not the food has any good quality. And so
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this is the kind of short-sightedness that I think really
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AI has put it on steroids.
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Yeah, like Henry Ford knew that part of his solution
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was create jobs during the Depression era. create jobs they
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can buy the car right i mean this is that's
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the idea and we have the food geez yeah the
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food it's like it's also how do we make this
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stuff last long on the shelf so the fruit they
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put this thing on this they spray it with this
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crap that makes something that should only last a few
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00:31:07.809 --> 00:31:09.849
weeks it lasts a year you know i mean they've
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been doing you know what i'm talking about.
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Oh yeah these What I'm laughing about is when my
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mom had a stroke and she got kind of dementia
617
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as a result of it, we would have to keep
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her away from the plastic grapes because she'd try to
619
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eat them. But I guess that's what they got in
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the grocery stores now, right?
621
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It's so funny. Well, getting back to like the ocean,
622
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all the microplastics, because of the dumps and stuff, those
623
00:31:35.019 --> 00:31:37.940
like break down into microplastics. And we're getting it from,
624
00:31:38.180 --> 00:31:40.619
we have crap all over air. We have crap everywhere
625
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:45.369
that's spraying in the skies. And those microplastics get into
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00:31:45.430 --> 00:31:47.589
all the fish. It gets into animals. It gets into
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our water. And now it's getting into our bodies. And
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they're disrupting their endocrine disruptors. And so there's other chemicals
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that are endocrine disruptors. And so it's causing the human
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babies to not develop properly. And so we're seeing a
631
00:32:07.430 --> 00:32:12.400
lot of physical ramifications of that that maybe there's some
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00:32:12.700 --> 00:32:15.759
physical reasons why the males are a little bit more
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feminine and the females are, you know, things are happening
634
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because there's a study that came out of Spain that
635
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showed girls from ages four to eight, we covered this
636
00:32:24.329 --> 00:32:27.450
on my show, ages four to eight are going into puberty.
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00:32:27.970 --> 00:32:28.230
Wow.
638
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And I'm like, oh, how many four-year-olds? I'm like, you know, four-year-olds,
639
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how many were four-year-olds going in? And they, there was
640
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.500
a decent percentage of, Of four-year-olds, too. I mean, it
641
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:43.150
was just kind of a, you know, more eight-year-olds than four-year-olds.
642
00:32:43.589 --> 00:32:46.529
But they used four-year-olds because they wanted to see how young,
643
00:32:47.190 --> 00:32:50.250
how young was this actually happening? And people would be
644
00:32:50.329 --> 00:32:54.519
surprised that this was happening. It's because of these endocrine disruptors.
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00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:56.980
And what it's doing to females is different than what
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00:32:57.019 --> 00:32:59.359
it's doing to males. But I think with males, it's
647
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stunting their masculine development.
648
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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And so what happens if we have, you know,
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00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:10.079
spermageddon or these other issues, we see the population declining rapidly.
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I think their answer to it is, oh, yeah, we
651
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don't care. We'll just do test tube babies. You know,
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we'll do them in a factory. And that's what they
653
00:33:17.410 --> 00:33:19.009
would prefer to have. I mean, they really want to
654
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go full on Brave New World, don't they?
655
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I kind of wonder if they don't want females. I mean,
656
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I don't. just wondering, because a lot of these gay
657
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guys who, most of them, Peter Thiel, a lot of
658
00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.940
these are gay guys. I'm wondering if they really, in
659
00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:41.359
their ideal world, if they really would just not have,
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that females would just be baby farms or for entertainment.
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And they really, I've thought that at times. I don't
662
00:33:47.750 --> 00:33:49.190
know if I'm out there on a limb.
663
00:33:49.210 --> 00:33:53.529
I wouldn't put anything past these guys.
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I mean, because it's so not, some of this stuff
665
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.930
is so out there I just wonder.
666
00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:04.750
Yeah, it's hard to imagine what these people are thinking
667
00:34:04.789 --> 00:34:07.990
about because it really, I think, is that the power
668
00:34:08.110 --> 00:34:11.619
and the money kind of drives them mad in a sense.
669
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It really does play games with their head and then
670
00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:18.119
they start playing games with us and they've got the
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power to do it because of the massive amount of
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00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.800
money that has been concentrated in their hands. We've never
673
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had a period in history where this much power has
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been concentrated in the hands of so few people.
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That's right. And they're kind of nuts. They don't want
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basic families. They don't want all the things that just
677
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kind of is mom, you know, apple pie. You know,
678
00:34:42.190 --> 00:34:44.789
we're like, we're trying to get back to apple pie.
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00:34:45.349 --> 00:34:49.010
They're way beyond. That's not their vision of the future.
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Like you said, test tube babies. I honestly think they
681
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think that's an advancement of human. Someone told me that.
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And I said, you know what? Having a child, growing
683
00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:05.039
the child and having that experience is what creates such
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a huge bond. And then the parents caring for the,
685
00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:14.789
including the dad, caring for those children creates an incredible bond.
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00:35:15.550 --> 00:35:18.809
And that whole process, I think, is nature has been
687
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made to create that bond. And it's like they don't
688
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value that.
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00:35:24.260 --> 00:35:26.179
Well, look at what they've done to try to break
690
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.780
the bond, even just between people who are friends, right?
691
00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:32.889
Everything they went through in 2020 was about isolating us
692
00:35:32.969 --> 00:35:35.429
and atomizing us, right? We used to talk about the
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nuclear family that had broken off the mom and dad
694
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and kids who had broken off from previous generations because
695
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it used to be that all stay in the same place,
696
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maybe even the same home, and you'd have multi-generational families.
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They went then to the nuclear family that kind of
698
00:35:50.460 --> 00:35:54.159
came out of the– the job mobility that people had.
699
00:35:54.179 --> 00:35:55.820
You know, you moved to a different part of the country.
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But now they want to break that apart. And they
701
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:00.860
want to break any relationship that they can find with people.
702
00:36:00.900 --> 00:36:04.559
They want us completely atomized so that our only relationship
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00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.500
is through other people through the Internet or through portals
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that they control, or our relationship is with the entities
705
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.820
that they create, these artificial entities. And I think that's
706
00:36:14.860 --> 00:36:16.570
a big part of it. And one of the things
707
00:36:16.590 --> 00:36:19.130
that concerns me about what Trump is pushing with AI
708
00:36:19.329 --> 00:36:22.900
is It's this whole label of superior intelligence that he
709
00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:25.699
came up with. And I think what's really behind that
710
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.630
is that's a concerted effort to try to get people
711
00:36:28.670 --> 00:36:31.769
to think of it as something that truly is conscious.
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I mean, I look at this whole relabeling and what
713
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is being done. I see that as kind of in
714
00:36:38.650 --> 00:36:40.670
a cynical way. I think they really are trying to
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00:36:40.710 --> 00:36:44.309
push this AI psychosis with people.
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We used to have just, it felt like it was
717
00:36:48.619 --> 00:36:50.739
more normal. I mean, you know, you look back at
718
00:36:50.780 --> 00:36:55.239
politics and everything was calmer. Back in the day when
719
00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:57.800
you're involved in politics, you always thought it was all
720
00:36:57.820 --> 00:37:00.909
this stuff going on and weird. But if you compared
721
00:37:00.949 --> 00:37:04.769
it to today, what it was like back then, it
722
00:37:05.789 --> 00:37:10.889
was a completely different world, right? Yeah. And I look
723
00:37:10.949 --> 00:37:13.559
at some of the stuff they're doing with the superintelligence.
724
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.199
The fact that they went on the White House lawn,
725
00:37:17.699 --> 00:37:21.500
called it superintelligence, talked about how jobs were going to
726
00:37:21.539 --> 00:37:24.639
go away and how you want to do universal basic income,
727
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.710
high income, on the White House lawn before an election,
728
00:37:29.369 --> 00:37:34.230
scaring the hell out of everybody. I don't understand what
729
00:37:34.369 --> 00:37:38.900
is going on because it doesn't make sense. Other than
730
00:37:39.340 --> 00:37:41.090
zooming way out and coming up with some of these
731
00:37:41.110 --> 00:37:44.050
things that we're talking about, where it's a bigger agenda,
732
00:37:44.449 --> 00:37:47.170
because the normal agendas, it wouldn't make sense.
733
00:37:47.530 --> 00:37:49.929
That's right. And they're not really concerned about how people
734
00:37:49.989 --> 00:37:52.550
perceive it. That's the other thing that is kind of concerning,
735
00:37:52.610 --> 00:37:55.760
isn't it? They'll tell you this stuff, and they don't
736
00:37:55.780 --> 00:37:58.000
really care if you agree with them. I mean, Liquid
737
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.360
got a very unpopular war. It was the most unpopular
738
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.440
war we've started, and it gets even more unpopular the
739
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:06.780
longer it runs, and yet they don't care. because there
740
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.539
is no restraint on them. I think, though, that this
741
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:12.980
artificial system that they have built, I think, is going
742
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.119
to have its own inherent restrictions. Even when you look
743
00:38:16.340 --> 00:38:20.409
at the issue of people have compared it to mad
744
00:38:20.449 --> 00:38:22.409
cow disease. You know, you grind up cows and feed
745
00:38:22.429 --> 00:38:25.010
them to other cows. They start to get these diseases
746
00:38:25.050 --> 00:38:28.329
that we've seen in cannibal societies. And they've said the
747
00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:30.730
same thing. Several different researchers have said that they found
748
00:38:30.789 --> 00:38:33.730
that if the data on the Internet gets too synthetic,
749
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.519
if it doesn't have enough human content to consume, if
750
00:38:36.579 --> 00:38:40.139
it starts consuming, if AI starts consuming other AI, it
751
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.179
starts to degrade. And so there might be some things
752
00:38:44.219 --> 00:38:47.199
like that that are kind of built in, inherently built in,
753
00:38:47.260 --> 00:38:50.150
that will take this system down. But I think one
754
00:38:50.190 --> 00:38:52.869
of the big issues that they've got coming up is
755
00:38:52.949 --> 00:38:56.230
this pyramid scheme that they built, this massive AI bubble.
756
00:38:56.650 --> 00:38:59.349
Everybody in mainstream media now is talking about it. And
757
00:38:59.389 --> 00:39:03.360
everybody is just convinced that it's going to happen because
758
00:39:03.809 --> 00:39:08.389
It has gotten so out of touch with reality. The
759
00:39:08.429 --> 00:39:10.980
only question is the timing. And everybody is believing that
760
00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:12.619
it's going to be pretty quickly.
761
00:39:13.260 --> 00:39:15.699
Well, yeah, because they took all the capital. 70% of
762
00:39:15.739 --> 00:39:19.099
all investment capital went into AI to prop up the economy.
763
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.800
And the AI companies are not making any money. So
764
00:39:22.860 --> 00:39:26.230
I think they're not profitable. I think them all coming
765
00:39:26.329 --> 00:39:30.619
out in unison could be to get the government involved
766
00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:33.900
so that they can protect their marketplace and not have
767
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.610
to chop it up, declare bankruptcy and get all chopped
768
00:39:37.670 --> 00:39:39.050
up and have to be in a free market.
769
00:39:39.349 --> 00:39:39.809
I agree.
770
00:39:40.510 --> 00:39:43.429
I think that could be happening. And we're watching that
771
00:39:43.449 --> 00:39:47.030
go down. On on the eve of the Genius Act
772
00:39:47.110 --> 00:39:50.329
coming through. The Genius Act is going to take hold
773
00:39:50.469 --> 00:39:54.070
in January. They are replacing our economy, and I think
774
00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:58.239
it's being replaced. Our economic system's already in the, probably
775
00:39:58.260 --> 00:40:01.420
already mostly replaced, and it'll just go live. Most people
776
00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:05.219
won't even realize it's happening, and they'll just replace it.
777
00:40:05.739 --> 00:40:08.739
I don't know if it's going to be really that successful, right?
778
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:11.320
Is it? Hopefully it will be, but there's going to
779
00:40:11.340 --> 00:40:14.489
be things, because they know. that if they don't do this,
780
00:40:14.739 --> 00:40:18.119
everything's going to eventually collapse. I mean, they can't.
781
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:22.039
I think the government will throw however much money it
782
00:40:22.059 --> 00:40:24.039
can imagine, and that's really what they're doing. They're just
783
00:40:24.099 --> 00:40:28.630
imagining money. It's an artificial economy. Starting with the government,
784
00:40:28.650 --> 00:40:30.489
it has been for a long time. We've got $ 40
785
00:40:30.230 --> 00:40:33.469
trillion in debt. Come on. We're in imagination land here,
786
00:40:33.489 --> 00:40:36.909
fantasy land. But they'll just keep printing dollars and handing
787
00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:40.039
them to these people. because they want the power that
788
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:42.719
this thing has to be able to surveil and to
789
00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:45.679
audit people. Think about that and how that's been used
790
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:49.989
already against people that Trump wants to isolate or attack.
791
00:40:50.710 --> 00:40:55.010
He's used AI to audit their past transactions. I think
792
00:40:55.110 --> 00:40:57.170
this is a very dangerous time that we're in. And
793
00:40:57.190 --> 00:40:59.989
of course, you've had, talk a little bit about what
794
00:41:00.010 --> 00:41:03.269
we were talking about before the interview began, about the
795
00:41:03.309 --> 00:41:07.090
things that you've gone through with Google, for example. Oh, geez.
796
00:41:07.230 --> 00:41:10.769
I mean, you've got to laugh, right? We laughed a
797
00:41:10.789 --> 00:41:13.320
lot when we talked about it. Because if you don't laugh,
798
00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:15.360
you cry, right? And in the middle of it, it
799
00:41:15.380 --> 00:41:20.420
wasn't fun. But, you know, I was taken down in
800
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.260
what the day I called it the day the Internet
801
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.929
died when a whole bunch of people were taken down.
802
00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:28.550
I actually felt more fortunate than others that weren't taken
803
00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:30.829
down that day because the ones that were at least
804
00:41:30.909 --> 00:41:32.809
everybody talked about you and you got a lot of
805
00:41:32.869 --> 00:41:36.710
followers quickly. Right. On at least alternative platforms. And you
806
00:41:36.769 --> 00:41:41.550
could rebound at least enough to keep yourself going if
807
00:41:41.610 --> 00:41:44.679
this is the job that you wanted to do. And so,
808
00:41:44.900 --> 00:41:47.380
but that happened, right? I was taken off everywhere. I
809
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.639
was taken off YouTube. I was taken off my Patreon.
810
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.420
I had 1,800 paying subscribers, which was pretty nice at
811
00:41:55.460 --> 00:41:58.630
the time. I had my ex-account or my Twitter account
812
00:41:58.670 --> 00:42:01.909
taken down. They actually went after my website. GoDaddy took
813
00:42:01.949 --> 00:42:04.750
it down and claimed the Federal Crimes Division. What crime?
814
00:42:05.110 --> 00:42:06.070
Like I said before.
815
00:42:06.190 --> 00:42:08.829
Yeah, we were talking about this. They said it was
816
00:42:08.849 --> 00:42:11.139
the Federal Crimes Division, and yet they never came to
817
00:42:11.179 --> 00:42:13.800
your house. You were never charged with anything. The only
818
00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:16.849
thing that was a consequence of your quote-unquote federal crime
819
00:42:16.889 --> 00:42:18.309
was that they took your website down.
820
00:42:19.260 --> 00:42:22.719
Yes. Yeah. And the GoDaddy people were actually good to
821
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:25.380
work with. They were like, we don't do this stuff.
822
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.960
And they helped me get my domain name back. Otherwise, sarahwestall.com
823
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:35.000
was confiscated for a week. I got it back. And
824
00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:39.059
then we sued. There's a group of us that sued them,
825
00:42:39.099 --> 00:42:40.639
didn't get anywhere. And then we went to the Ninth
826
00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:43.519
Circuit and they claimed they acted alone. They lied in court.
827
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:48.210
And it came out last last fall, last August, I believe,
828
00:42:48.230 --> 00:42:54.969
the Google's top attorneys in Jim Jordan's committee, they admitted
829
00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:57.510
that they were being coerced by the U.S. government and
830
00:42:57.550 --> 00:42:59.730
that they were going to start letting people back. And
831
00:42:59.750 --> 00:43:02.329
we're like, well, you lied in federal court. And so
832
00:43:02.369 --> 00:43:05.489
my attorney called the attorney that was on that case, said, Sarah,
833
00:43:05.510 --> 00:43:07.710
we need to do something about this. So she was
834
00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:11.230
talking to people about going and negotiating. Meanwhile, I said, well,
835
00:43:11.309 --> 00:43:15.460
I need to hire somebody because I've been up... I had...
836
00:43:16.019 --> 00:43:19.739
Four fake channels that were prominent. A couple of them.
837
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:21.980
It was either two or three. I can't remember now.
838
00:43:22.059 --> 00:43:24.760
I don't know why I don't remember. How many of
839
00:43:24.780 --> 00:43:29.210
them were monetized? They were posting all of my content.
840
00:43:29.230 --> 00:43:32.929
They looked stupid, though, because they didn't have that many followers.
841
00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:35.829
Some of them. There were some. People got confused and shared.
842
00:43:35.869 --> 00:43:38.340
And so there were some that were getting 20,000 views, right?
843
00:43:40.239 --> 00:43:42.340
But they were making money on it. And then they'd post, like,
844
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.380
crappy stuff with it. And so I just looked like
845
00:43:44.420 --> 00:43:46.659
an idiot. And then if you look at the front page,
846
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.630
those were the channels that came up using all of
847
00:43:49.690 --> 00:43:52.409
my imagery. So it looked just like me. And then
848
00:43:52.429 --> 00:43:54.650
it was just like, crap, they found on the internet.
849
00:43:54.809 --> 00:43:57.489
I learned about hit pieces on me I didn't even
850
00:43:57.530 --> 00:44:01.590
know existed. Right?
851
00:44:01.610 --> 00:44:02.110
That's right.
852
00:44:02.619 --> 00:44:04.239
They found it and put it right up on the
853
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:04.880
front page.
854
00:44:05.659 --> 00:44:07.750
That was a two-step process. They did that with me,
855
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.219
and then I just disappeared altogether. So it was kind
856
00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:13.980
of interesting to see that. how they engage in a
857
00:44:14.019 --> 00:44:16.260
kind of character assassination. It really is the type of
858
00:44:16.300 --> 00:44:19.250
thing that you expect to see in a totalitarian regime.
859
00:44:20.230 --> 00:44:23.969
Well, yeah, exactly. It's like we didn't say, we went
860
00:44:24.090 --> 00:44:26.550
after somebody who, because you can say whatever you want
861
00:44:26.570 --> 00:44:27.429
against certain people.
862
00:44:27.789 --> 00:44:28.389
They don't care.
863
00:44:28.829 --> 00:44:32.510
But if you happen to say truth against somebody that
864
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:33.349
is in power.
865
00:44:34.059 --> 00:44:36.320
You're screwed. That's right. That's right.
866
00:44:36.340 --> 00:44:39.260
They, they will go after you. You don't even know.
867
00:44:39.699 --> 00:44:41.860
And the other thing is they might just not like you.
868
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.280
You just might be somebody that, right. Somebody in power
869
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:47.840
just looks at you and go, kind of just don't
870
00:44:47.900 --> 00:44:51.530
like that person. Just, you know, that's what, yeah.
871
00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:54.210
I mean, I talk all the time about like Shostakovich,
872
00:44:54.230 --> 00:44:58.070
for example, under Stalin, you know, he was, he was
873
00:44:58.190 --> 00:45:00.409
an excellent composer. A lot of people liked him and
874
00:45:00.550 --> 00:45:03.219
he's been very well liked since then. But, He had
875
00:45:03.260 --> 00:45:06.000
a situation where he was a favorite of Stalin, if
876
00:45:06.019 --> 00:45:10.030
I remember correctly, but then something happened and he didn't
877
00:45:10.050 --> 00:45:11.369
like him. You know, kind of like what you see
878
00:45:11.429 --> 00:45:14.869
with Donald Trump. He looked at him the wrong way
879
00:45:14.929 --> 00:45:18.050
or something. And the next thing you know, he's telling everybody, oh,
880
00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:20.250
this guy is bad. And so everybody, all the critics
881
00:45:20.289 --> 00:45:23.929
started trashing all of his work. He couldn't get any work.
882
00:45:23.949 --> 00:45:27.190
He couldn't get any performances to get paid, nothing. And
883
00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:29.469
it's simply because he fell out of favor with the
884
00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:34.599
leader and the leader brought didn't really have any reason
885
00:45:34.659 --> 00:45:36.360
to dislike him, but he just took a disliking to
886
00:45:36.389 --> 00:45:37.250
him just arbitrarily.
887
00:45:37.949 --> 00:45:39.949
Yeah. Just, you know, and think how many people just
888
00:45:40.130 --> 00:45:43.349
don't like you, you know, I'm pretty familiar with that.
889
00:45:43.369 --> 00:45:46.389
You just, they just don't like you. And every single
890
00:45:46.449 --> 00:45:49.619
person has people that just don't like them. And if
891
00:45:49.659 --> 00:45:51.559
you end up being on the wrong side to somebody
892
00:45:51.579 --> 00:45:54.539
who don't like it in this kind of environment, you
893
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.860
can be pretty screwed fast.
894
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.460
Yeah. Like, So we're kind of like the canaries in
895
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:03.599
the coal mine. In a sense, we can find out
896
00:46:03.659 --> 00:46:06.059
which issues are really important to them because you get
897
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.659
punished for that when you touch it. That's right. You
898
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.320
find out which people are in control and which governments
899
00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:14.260
are in control because you criticize them and all of
900
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:14.949
a sudden you're gone.
901
00:46:15.769 --> 00:46:20.610
That's right. And the character assassination with me, so I
902
00:46:20.630 --> 00:46:24.940
hired this new attorney. He works with Mike Adams and
903
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:26.800
he works with the Bollingers and he works with some
904
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.980
other people too that are working on their cases. And
905
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.699
they've been working on this for a long time. So
906
00:46:31.739 --> 00:46:35.139
I thought, you know, they've been in the fight and
907
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.440
been working hard. I'm like, okay, let's do this. But
908
00:46:37.460 --> 00:46:41.099
I need my online presence cleaned up. And so that
909
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:43.429
was my main goal. I just want to get back
910
00:46:43.570 --> 00:46:45.710
on YouTube, clean up my, I don't even know if
911
00:46:45.750 --> 00:46:48.369
I want to be in this stuff anymore. I don't
912
00:46:48.389 --> 00:46:51.909
want to be attacked. And let's clean my online presence up.
913
00:46:52.730 --> 00:46:55.090
And so, but I went and I talked to YouTube
914
00:46:55.210 --> 00:46:58.570
first and Google and talked to the customer service and
915
00:46:58.610 --> 00:47:00.510
they first talked to me and then they realized who
916
00:47:00.570 --> 00:47:03.530
I was or something and just wouldn't talk to me again.
917
00:47:03.550 --> 00:47:06.539
And so then I went through all the formal processes,
918
00:47:06.619 --> 00:47:09.099
talked to five different organizations. I didn't talk to them.
919
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:12.860
I sent letters, certified letters and email. That was supposedly
920
00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.880
the formal process to get something taken down. And I
921
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.719
got one answer from one organization that says, we don't
922
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.530
take down channels. We just take down videos. I'm like, well... OK, well,
923
00:47:22.550 --> 00:47:23.989
now what do I do? So I guess I got
924
00:47:24.010 --> 00:47:25.889
to send a letter, you know, so now I'm paying
925
00:47:25.909 --> 00:47:29.349
to have an attorney send a letter. And I had
926
00:47:29.909 --> 00:47:33.269
one letter ignored, another letter ignored. After my second letter,
927
00:47:33.309 --> 00:47:35.719
that's when all the porn stuff came up there. I
928
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:37.059
told you about the porn stuff. Yeah.
929
00:47:38.710 --> 00:47:42.429
Yeah. Just a smear, putting your name out there, confessions
930
00:47:42.570 --> 00:47:44.349
of a porn star or something, putting your name there,
931
00:47:44.369 --> 00:47:46.349
but it wasn't about you and it wasn't you, but
932
00:47:46.389 --> 00:47:47.869
it just smeared you with that.
933
00:47:48.050 --> 00:47:50.630
It was just, it was association, right? You're on the
934
00:47:50.670 --> 00:47:53.429
front page where, and it looked like it was me.
935
00:47:53.570 --> 00:47:55.769
So if you looked at the search results, it looks
936
00:47:55.809 --> 00:47:57.949
like I'm a porn star. You have to click into it.
937
00:47:58.550 --> 00:48:01.030
You'd click into it and go, okay, she's, this isn't
938
00:48:01.090 --> 00:48:05.530
about her, but, but that's still defamation. Right.
939
00:48:05.860 --> 00:48:06.030
Yeah.
940
00:48:06.510 --> 00:48:12.789
And, and, Google and Rumble is suing Google because or YouTube,
941
00:48:12.829 --> 00:48:15.650
who I don't know exactly, probably suing Alphabet, suing them
942
00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:18.760
because they're not. letting any of their videos up on
943
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:21.719
their search pages and showing them anywhere. And so they've
944
00:48:21.739 --> 00:48:24.829
been in this lawsuit. But that was a Rumble video
945
00:48:24.869 --> 00:48:28.570
that they showed. So magically, under my case, suddenly a
946
00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:30.250
Rumble video was able to get through.
947
00:48:30.269 --> 00:48:31.809
They made an exception for you.
948
00:48:31.949 --> 00:48:34.590
They made an exception for me. And so you know
949
00:48:34.659 --> 00:48:36.780
that was something in terms of something failed on their
950
00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.320
product filters. And Gemini told me that they took down
951
00:48:40.340 --> 00:48:42.440
the filters and they knew this was going to happen.
952
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I mean, Gemini actually told me that. Because I asked them,
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how does this actually happen? They said Google Safe Search
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didn't work. And they knew they had to have disabled
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it because this would have been stripped out. It was
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an easy strip out. It's Kafkaesque, isn't it?
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It's like straight out of a Kafka novel. You can't
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find anybody to talk to. You can't find out why
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you've been purged. It truly is the way that we
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live now, isn't it? Well, tell us where you are.
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Tell us where people can find you. You know what?
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You've got a sub stack. You've got a website. We've
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got the website there. And what other things are you doing?
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Give us a shameless plug here.
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A shameless plug? Yeah, you can. I'm all over the place,
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probably just like you. Apple never really suppressed me, so
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I actually rank on Apple, if you can believe it.
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And, uh, yeah.
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00:49:34.289 --> 00:49:37.030
And, but I have my sub stack and go to westallmedia.com,
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which actually brings you to my sub stack. And, uh,
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I'm on, I'm starting to grow again. I haven't been
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on YouTube for like not even a year, but I
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got my old channel back. So I'm starting to grow
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again a little bit.
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Um, well, maybe we should try that again. I got
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to the point where after they completely purged me, I
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just said, okay, I'm not going to do any politics.
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I'll just put up some music that I've done. I
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did some Christmas songs and I put that up. And
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after about six months, they, pull that entire channel down
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without explanation. Just Christmas songs. You're on the list when
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it is like that, isn't it? Isn't it crazy?
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But, uh, well, but that's why I didn't understand why
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I couldn't be up at my fake channels could be
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making money on me. You know, it's like, come on.
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So, yeah.
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So did you have, is there, is there content of
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you that's up there? It's just not yours.
989
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I think, uh, Travis has put up, uh, some, um,
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curated stuff he goes through and he puts up some
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shorts and i think he pulls out things that he
992
00:50:35.429 --> 00:50:38.170
thinks are hot issues so it's kind of some anodyne
993
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stuff that i say i guess that's on.
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Youtube but is it your a new channel that you created.
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I think he did set up one didn't he do
996
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that lance did he set up a channel yeah yeah
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he is putting up a little bit of stuff but
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i haven't really pushed it i i'm just so fed
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up with those people i don't want to have anything
1000
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to do with.
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Them I completely understand. So I built everywhere, you know,
1002
00:50:57.619 --> 00:51:02.099
like I'm on BitChute, I'm on Substack, I'm on, you know,
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all the different audio channels, my website. But, you know,
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YouTube is still a big audience. So I'm there now.
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And I'm just doing my thing. I'm not as deep
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into the investing. We really want to go down some
1007
00:51:16.489 --> 00:51:20.260
rabbit holes. I did some hard hitting journalism. throughout the
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years and i just i'm like i i don't know
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at this time in our history with everything that's going
1010
00:51:27.070 --> 00:51:29.230
on that's pretty dangerous place to.
1011
00:51:29.170 --> 00:51:32.449
Be yeah yeah yeah it is yeah speaking the truth
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00:51:32.530 --> 00:51:35.309
is really revolutionary at this point and it can get
1013
00:51:35.349 --> 00:51:37.190
you in a lot of trouble but that's kind of
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the world that we live in and i think um
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00:51:39.989 --> 00:51:42.050
uh you know i i think that's uh it's a
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00:51:42.090 --> 00:51:44.110
good time for that actually you know i'm more than
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willing in uh twilight years here to uh to go
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00:51:47.789 --> 00:51:51.550
after that kind of stuff. They've kind of annoyed me
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00:51:51.590 --> 00:51:54.030
enough that I want to challenge them head on in
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some areas there.
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Well, and I think that's admirable. I think, you know,
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some of the stuff I did where I was uncovering
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Burisma and I had the whistleblower, the lead finance, I
1024
00:52:03.699 --> 00:52:06.460
had the head of the financial department ready to be
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a whistleblower on Burisma, that kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm like,
1026
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she was, she was, oh, that's a long story. They
1027
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ended up finding out who she was. They, sodomized her
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left her for dead stole all her stuff a group
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of people that i was working with um went and
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got her and got her into russia and saved her
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life and she had all the the facts on what
1032
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was going on with burisma those are the kinds of
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things that i'm just like gosh in this today's world
1034
00:52:37.170 --> 00:52:38.510
i don't know anymore.
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Yeah they're going to ramp all that stuff up i
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think the democrats uh have a big win in this election.
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You're going to see them turn back to all the Russia, Russia,
1038
00:52:46.829 --> 00:52:49.630
Russia stuff again. They're already starting to talk about that.
1039
00:52:49.650 --> 00:52:52.099
They're already talking about it. Oh, look, we've got Russian
1040
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.800
bots that are trying to interfere against the Democrats in
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00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:58.539
these elections. That is really where these people live. I
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think we're going to see that have a new life
1043
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:02.860
breathed into it after the election.
1044
00:53:03.579 --> 00:53:09.769
Yeah, they're pro-Ukraine, and the other guys are pro-Israel. Mm-hmm.
1045
00:53:10.349 --> 00:53:12.449
They trade and they just take each take a side.
1046
00:53:12.550 --> 00:53:14.260
It's not going to I think it's going to be
1047
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a bloodbath, but people are going to find that they're
1048
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.119
not happier with the Democrats.
1049
00:53:17.380 --> 00:53:20.440
That's right. Yeah, it's going to be, you know, pick
1050
00:53:20.460 --> 00:53:23.400
your war, which one. But either way, we're going to
1051
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have one of them will be front and center. The
1052
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.739
other one will be kind of back burner. But I
1053
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think they're going to keep both awards going and it'll
1054
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.730
depend which party is in power as to which war
1055
00:53:32.769 --> 00:53:34.969
is going to be on the front burner. Well, it's
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great talking to you, Sarah, and I'm glad to get
1057
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a chance to talk after all these years. We talked
1058
00:53:38.949 --> 00:53:45.510
about how we We're kind of in an orbit where
1059
00:53:45.530 --> 00:53:47.929
we would have a lot of overlapping interests, but we
1060
00:53:47.969 --> 00:53:50.150
never really talked before. It's great to talk to you.
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00:53:50.250 --> 00:53:51.429
I've got to get you on my show.
1062
00:53:51.769 --> 00:53:52.170
I'd love to.
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I'd love to have you on.
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Well, thank you. Sarah Westall, and you can find her
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at sarahwestall.com. Thank you so much, Sarah. It was very
1066
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interesting talking to you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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The common man. They created common core to dumb down
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00:54:17.340 --> 00:54:21.059
our children. They created common past to track and control us.
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Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing.
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And the communist future. They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary.
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But each of us has worth and dignity created in
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the image of God. That is what we have in common.
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That is what they want to take away. Their most
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powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation. They desire to know
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everything about us while they hide everything from us. It's
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time to turn that around and expose what they want
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to hide. Please share the information and links you'll find
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at thedavidknightshow.com. Thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing.
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