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You see somethings going to happen. What what's going to happen?
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He'll take.
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What help.
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Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode. We got a
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very very.
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Very special episode.
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It is a bunch of the rejects together and we
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got a reject who had a book that we're going
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to talk about.
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But before we get to Ethan.
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Who's the who wrote the book, the author, we will
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introduce the other rejects. So Headless Giant, please let everybody
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know who who you are and what's up in case
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they don't know how you doing.
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Everybody Happy Friday. So you can find me on Twitter
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at the Headless Giant and on YouTube at the Headless
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Giant as well. So check me out there on Instagram
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and you can touch my show on Thursday nights where
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I read your occult and or Strange paranormal emails and
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you can email those two the Headless Giant podcast at
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gmail dot com. Also, I got a show with Ethan
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coming up on Sunday called The Trialogue, so check that
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out as well.
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Get those emails in and check out that Trialogue show.
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Thank you very much. Ellis and my man jewels we
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got them this week. Finally got them on again as
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you got me.
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What's going on? Guys, I'm Jules you see me here before,
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host of the Great Pill Podcast. Yeah stoke tonight to
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hear a little bit about what Ethan has to say,
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to hear about his book, and uh yeah, man, just
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to hear about the fourth Initiate. I'm you know, I
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have a lot of shows I do. I'm not going
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to get into that whole spiel right now. I can
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do that at the end when we do our plugs.
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But yeah, guys, y'all can find me on Twitter at
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Great Pill Pod, over on Rumble and Patreon, especially Patreon.
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We do some twin Peaks watch parties. Yes, Terry book reviews.
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Nick comes and hangs out for those now.
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Definitely check it out. Definitely, so yeah, I would say
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it's worth the money.
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So thanks for thanks for inviting me on again.
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Of course, always love having you man.
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Thank you, and that's good seeing all all of you guys. Man,
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Happy friggsday, guys. It's gonna be a banger of a show.
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Also, yes, hey we got Tyrone. What is up my man?
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Always a pleasure.
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What's up everybody? Thanks Nick? I appreciate it. You already know.
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I'm ready, man, I got your book right here on
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my candle bro and I have plenty.
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Of times on here, so you already know.
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Everything you can find about me is on my website,
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Rebirth oftheword dot Com. I love reading, I love how
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and discussions with authors, especially since I've read their book.
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It's a more uh personal with me because now I
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get to ask them for things for clarifications sake. So
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of course you know this is the time for me
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to ask some of those questions. So hey, I appreciate it.
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Rebirth of the word dot com.
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Oh yeah, thank you for joining us then, and we
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got the man himself, see Ethan Indigo.
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What is going on, sir? How are you well?
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I bow to all of you. Thank you so much
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for the inclusion and support. I really appreciate it. Yeah,
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I'm on all the usual social media writing articles frequently
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and easily cut I'll have to fix that tabulation, I guess,
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and easy to find on all the social media. And
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the fourth initiation really came about from my obsession with
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what I call the duality of polarity, or you could
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just say four.
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Uh and I you know, I.
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Explored really a whole philosophical outlook kind of universalism, uh,
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bringing together different sources of more or less the same
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principles or different takes on the same principle of this
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duality of polarity in the matrix of four. And as
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time went on, I realized that there was a whole
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other Really, the matrix of four is accused of being
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esoteric in one sense, but there was a whole other
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esoteric level to this duality of polarity. And so the
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fourth initiation, there is no prior three.
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The fourth initiation is essentially where I explored the esoteric
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and the exoteric understandings of different teachings. And this is
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a significant polarity when we look at any allegory or
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so on and so forth. Another polarity that is in
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the world we live, not necessarily within the interpretation, but
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is kind of put forth in a lot of different ways.
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the capital if you think about a pole, or the
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basic and the enlightened, if you will. And a lot
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of societal interpretations are kind of on the growth side
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of the polarity. So let's let's go to the imagers,
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and I'll start to tell kind of the little story
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and you guys, if you have anything to to say,
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please go ahead.
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I'm sure of course. Mm hmm.
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So for me, the idea around this duality of polarity
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or four began in a very exoteric manner. And is
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that is that I wonder the images aren't coming through?
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you would have to actually open
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up the image probably and then choose that as the
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window to share.
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Shoot, my bust. Well, I'll just I'll just read read
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this as as I try to export a few of these.
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So I wrote The Complete Patriots Guide to Oligarchical Collectivism,
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and I conceptualize that there's four types of mind states.
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Idiots avoid all new pertinent information, Zelots ask only certain
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questions of certain information, Elitists question information in order to
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manipulate and reap gains off the information. And patriots question
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information to share with others and benefit progress, initiate progress.
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And so this is kind of a really exoteric, simple
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kind of way of understanding things.
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Book, I realized that there were all sorts of different
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aspects or sets of four, where there's over three and
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a unsaid fourth right and one of the powerful ones
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that I used, I think is the four wise monkeys,
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and that is usually considered to be the three wise monkeys,
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more widely known as the three Wise monkeys, but there's
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actually four. There's see no evil, which is kind of
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like the idiot that I put forth. There, there's here
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no evil, which is kind of like the zealot. There's
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speak no evil, which is very much like the elitists.
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And this monkey holds his abdomen right, and he's unmoved
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and he's unafraid.
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So this this also has a whole esoteric construct to it,
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and not just the exoteric as well, very very prominent
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in Buddhism. This next one is from the Allegory of
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the Cave, in which most people point out that there's
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three character types in the Allegory of the Cave, the prisoners,
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the captors, and the freed prisoner. But there's actually, excuse me,
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two different types of prisoners. There's the chained and the unchained, right,
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and this is this is very much like the idiots
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and the zelots.
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The zelots don't need to be chained because it's they're
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they're so entangled by the images, and so as I
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began exploring things further, there's this whole kind of system
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of understanding that really I put forth in the matrix
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of four as four parts of four aspects. In other words,
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each each of these four aspects has four parts. Excuse
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my redundancy. And the first one I use is arithmetic,
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and this is one that is absolute. There was a
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time period where people were obsessed, where mathematicians were obsessed
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with looking for a fifth operation.
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Of arithmetic, and there really are noney.
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All of mathematics goes upon the four operations of arithmetic,
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and certainly in a very duality.
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And I call that the four aspects of the mental, right,
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the four absolutes of the mental. There's also the breath
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is the one I use for the physical. We can
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we can go to that nick. The breath is an absolute,
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not all life, but it's pretty much an absolute for
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breathing life. That there is an inhalation and a pause full,
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an exhalation and a pause empty. This is kind of
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a meditation technique to accentuate and be mindful of the
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pauses as well as the inhalation and exhalation and our breath,
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which I use is the absolute of physical as opposed
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to mental arithmetic functions. Just like this Yin yang depiction
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of orbits, all all objects in orbit of one another
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all around the universe. We can pretty much presume that's
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like a big absolute. It may not be true everywhere
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in the universe, for it is a big place, but
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everywhere where there's objects in orbit, there are four.
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Seasons, there's the there's.
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The duality of polarity of equinoxes and solstices.
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believe the number four and all of these polarities are
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a type of transcendence from merely the physical realm.
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I do believe that there is an aspect of understanding
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the physical real realm towards being an empowered being in
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this realm. And there's also the meditative and initiatory aspects
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for certain And actually, that was funny you should mention
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headless because that's really kind of the next idea where
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I'm going, which, uh, what I use for the absolute
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of orbit is clear, all objects are in orbit. The
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next image nick is the own symbol, and this is
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one of the oldest symbols on the planet, and it
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is in four parts, and it is described in a
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duality of polarity, and one can conceptualize it as a
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depiction of consciousness for the material world and also a
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initiatory device for self development and enlightenment. Here we see
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on the left there that backwards, Well, what looks like
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the three actually contains two parts, right, And I was
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going to say, go to the next image, but I
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I need.
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To do that.
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Uh So there's the duality of polarity of the OM symbol,
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and the highest level is called Terrea, which simply means
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the fourth So there's deep sleep and deep awakening, and
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then there's deep dreaming.
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The terrea, the absolute deep awakening, right, and the point
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is the terrea.
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The line underneath.
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That is the Sea of Mara or the barrier or whatever.
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That is virtually impossible to cross this chasm from the
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third state to the fourth state. But it is possible,
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but but it takes takes a lot of dedication.
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So, yeah, do you know how deeply proto Indo European
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that symbol feels to me?
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Yeah?
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Think about that as a mountain, right, all of these
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proto Indo European religions have a mountain, and what you're
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talking about is the different levels in the sky, god realm. Right,
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So you've got the Olympians at the absolute, You've got
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Turia as being like the Saturnian character deep sleep as
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the Titans, and then further down into number three, which
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is dreaming, which would be our level, our contact with
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the gods and their wakefulness, where we live on a
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conscious level. And that sort of makes up like Mount Ida, right,
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all of these different mountains represent sort of like a
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stairway to heaven. Mount Olympus. All of these ideas have
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to do with that sort of pyramidal figure, and you
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kind of get that idea with this this symbol as well,
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which represents a lot of what proto Indo European shamanism
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was all about.
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I believe that there's many tales about this symbol actually
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being derived from Mount Kailash. In certain different snow mount
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snow milts, you can see you one can make out,
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I know, symbol in Mount Kailash, which people don't know.
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It's the most sacred mountain and all the.
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Sacred mountain of all of India and all of and.
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All of that.
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The mountainous region there, it's not Everest, it's Kylash.
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You put two concepts together and you get really a
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kind of a Kabbala tree, right.
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Yeah, well this this has the dual polarity of the trees.
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Yeah, yeah, it's based it's.
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The duality of polarity right there.
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I mean, that's why you have the check yourboard flaws
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just for the duality.
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So it's mathematics too, right, it's the duality of polarity.
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Which that's not esoteric. It's just like the way that
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we learn how to do things with a thing that
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we've learned. Right, Mathematics is like totally esoteric because we
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use this set of ideas to formulate and process all
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kinds of stuff.
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Then tell me about what the video I showed you
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about the the Lithuanians and the the Sanskrit words.
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Right, well, that's that's a whole whole rabbit hole. Really
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cool how that goes down. And four has this whole
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comparative unifying aspect to it too in its simplicity that
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there's only four. But yeah, that was mind blowing to
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hear all those words being virtually the same as all
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these ideas.
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Uh, that we're exploring here.
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They're they're from all these different uh places and times,
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but they're really kind of the duality of polarity. Yeah,
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this symbol, this symbol is the oldest symbol on the planet.
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So and it was it was the It is so
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old that it precedes the language. And and so you
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don't right out, oh you put you put this this symbol. Oh,
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and it's a it's a it's a four part annunciation
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as well, three that are overt and one that is silence,
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silence being counted and super important as we'll see uh
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A U M obviously are the three vocalizations. But and this,
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this is the type of symbol that is used for
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an exoteric philosophical outlook and also very deep internal esoteric development, right,
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and and there are above and the below. Yeah, so
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so this this represents so much that we're only scanning
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the topical here, so uh.
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But but it's.
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Important to note right that it has that esoteric and
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exoteric idea behind it. Let's go, let's go to the
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next one. I think it's some writing. Okay, this is
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a really important thing that is not too well known.
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I found the ancient Egyptians conceptualized of course, what we
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commonly know is the doat or the TERREEA zinj asked
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the question, what is teria mean? It literally means the
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fourth so and and but it signifies the most enlightened
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aspect of consciousness. So I mean this is this is
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not a coincidence. I don't think the ancient Egyptians as well.
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They of course have the main polarity of the living
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and the dead, right, but they also have the polarity
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of the living and the gods. And there's three dimensions.
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The fourth dimension is for those that have transcended, for
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the few human beings that have become godly. And so
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there was this space within their kind of idea of creation.
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Let's see. Uh So the next one I was describing
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this symbol. Recently got an article on a cult Rejects
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dot uh uh dot org Cult Rejects Institute.
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One of my brain frying.
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Right now, the Cold Research Institute dot.
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Or Research Research Institute.
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I appreciate you put the article.
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Sorry, excuse my brain for I have a decent article
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on there about the circumpunked. Next Nick, the next pictures
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of the circumpunked with the twin pillars and the circumpunked
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is essentially three parts that makes a new fourth thing
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one could one could extrapolate. But you have the point,
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and you have the space, and you have the ring.
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Those are the overt three and to each side, often
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depicted in uh freemasonic imagery, to each side. It is
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the duality of polarity. And it's almost as if you
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have a three and a two and a two. And
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so I was conceptualizing this and it came to me
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one time that this seems like an important thing. The
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trinity and the polarity and the polarity are really kind
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of one of these symbols that might have a perverse
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and an enlightenment and an enlightened aspect to it.
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And yeah, have you ever seen green lantern comics?
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Of course, Yeah, break it down? What am I forgetting?
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Well, if you turn that symbol sideway right right right,
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so you've got the green and the gold, and it
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kind of makes the one, two, three, four five, and
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the fit level is sort of like the heart chakra,
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which is the tifferrath, which is kind of green and gold.
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And like their enemies are the yellow lanterns, right, and
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so they're fighting against them. So it's the green versus
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the yellow, and you've got that whole sort of tiphoretic
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feel to anything you imagine, anything you can feel you
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can actually create with the with the green lantern. It's
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like manifesting.
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Yeah, And that's what I feel like the circumpunct kind
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of when you focus on it just in your minds.
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I it really has a concentration modality for one, So
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it really I think does help accomplish, but I think
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the understanding of the duality of polarity really helps accomplish.
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One being a set of mercy and one being a
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set of severity, but the point being that you create
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and destroy either in severe or merciful terms. Mostly nowadays
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we're only in the severity. And in fact, we did
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a great program on Yahweh and Asherah. They're a total
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duality of polarity, unto themselves that.
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We only have Yahweh. Now, who's the.
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Storm God obviously related to severity creation destruction through severity,
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where Asha was creation destruction through mercy. And then in
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the center you have the Trinity or the thrice great
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of the initiate. So let's go, let's go to the
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next one, which it's kind of saying the same thing.
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But three two two is this Americana kind of.
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You know, lore Nick, you want to go to the
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next one.
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Sorry, yes, I was like, it's just in my seat.
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Three two two is also in Genesis. It has a
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polarity in it, right, and insinuates even two polarities because
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of the life and death and good and evil. So
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there's there's uh two powerful polarities that are really you know, primary.
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And of course they're talking about the tree right there too,
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which what is the tree? Two polarities?
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The skulls and bones? To me, what she's talking about
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that is that is the skull and bones. Yes, that
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is the skull and bones.
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And and my point in bringing them up is not
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that they're correct and not that they're on it. I'm
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saying that they're using symbolism to whatever they might be
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symbolizing it for I'm not sure, but I think that
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for me, when I see the three two two, I
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no longer see three two two, I see trinity, polarity, polarity,
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and you've.
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Also you've also got you've also got multiplication. So if
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you multiply them like the two bones make it acts,
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you get twelve, which is like the twelve sides of
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the Zodiac. It's like they're they're making a perverse symbol
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for the zodiac.
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They're using symbolism in a perverse and basic manner. Write
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that whole idea where you can use it in esoteric
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and exoteric and basic and enlightened, right, And they're using
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it probably for very basic, gross means.
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And it seems like some stuff that's meant to be
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just like for the esoteric, they try to take that
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and make it for the exoteric and completely subverts it, right,
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It completely destroys what.
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It meant to be.
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Oh original, Yes, I totally agree with it.
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I think.
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We gets considered the.
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The you know, the stuff that comes like kind of
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everybody understands somehow becomes like, oh, that's all there is
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to it, that's the deepest ship, and we all know
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you know what I'm saying, Like, stuff like that happens, I.
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Think a lot.
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Right, So, just an interesting phenomena that relates to this
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idea of the thrice great the initiated being in control
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of this duality of polarity. And I'm not advocating them,
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I'm trying to pierce the veil of what they might
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be using not that they've not that they figured it out,
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they're using it potentially if if that has anything to
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do with the interpretations.
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I think that verse is the most powerful one in
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the Bible. That's for the rest of the book.
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Yeah, I mean, that's that's at the point where it's
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like you fucked right.
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It's the cosmological tone, you know, And a different religious
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and cosmological constructs have this same for mannerism, often of
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the good and evil, or often masculine and feminine, as
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Adam and Eve and life and death. Most cosmologies begin
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with these two polarities that are like the most powerful
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considerations there are among time.
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Right, you've got a dual polarity right there on that image.
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Yeah, there's the cross.
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And that's a mathematical rule that two lines intersecting create
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four corners. So every cross, mathematically it's two lines intersecting.
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However elaborate it gets, it creates the four.
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All right.
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So the next one is just me trying to be funny,
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little little mammology. And Carl Young was fascinated with this idea,
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and many times in his writing and in his speeches
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he mentioned that there there's three, but where's the fourth
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and actually, uh, in the free introduction on Amazon of
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my book The Fourth Initiation, one of the first things
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I explore is the Barto Total, the Tibetan Book of
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the Dead, which is itself a very esoteric idea of
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fascinating book, super fascinating. One of the dopest things Carl
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Young pointed out about it is that, of course, on
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the exoteric, on the primary level of this great teaching
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is that it is elaborating on the time between death
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and rebirth. But if you read it backwards, Carl Jung
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noted out, from from last chapter on to the second
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to last chapter, and so on to the first chapter,
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so that it that it is last, it is a
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story from birth to death. So so it's yeah.
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Speaking of story, every story arc takes place in four acts. Really,
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so that fourth act is.
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A song written that way too, yep, for four yeah, man,
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I would I would go even deeper to say that
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the whole Bible is, in fact not just the four Gospels,
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but the.
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Whole Christ story is a set of four and possibly
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even directly related to Hinduism traditions. But there's the birth, life, death,
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and resurrection, and and in our lifetimes we go through
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this in a symbolic way many different times, and and
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of course the the uh exoteric and perverse mannerism would
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be you know, taking it into too different different manners.
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But but this is this is the story of the Bible,
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one of resurrection. That's the fourth element, that's the silent part,
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that is uh, you know, so.
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So valuable, that's so attractive to so many people because
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it provides that fourth step.
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Yeah, yeah, man.
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So the next uh uh, let's see, So this one
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is elaboration of the symbol with the yin and yang
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and the four humers, the four uh the four humors
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were a Greek system of understanding what is uh, one
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could say, very similar if not exactly the same as
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one of the yin yang diagnosics practices of traditional Chinese medicine. Right,
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so very similar these ancient practices. And you have the
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four colors of alchemy.
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Oh yeah, in in.
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The phlegm and yellow bile and black bile and blood.
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Right. So, so when when.
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They say that there's four types of people or that
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there's four types of problems, will you know, are they
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what are they talking about? Exactly right? Because the ancient
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excuse me, the American Indians have a similar color construct
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in in their symbolism.
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I take this image and look into the elementals with
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it now too, you know, because the four elementals, uh,
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you tie into almost everything when you look at being,
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like the you know, the what is it, the astral fire,
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the ethereal water, the physical earth, and the mental air.
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Right.
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Yeah, and and there's what that's become one of my
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favorite words, element elements because it's so esoteric, but it's
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often considered very primary and physical, but it actually says
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godly mind. I think it's this godly mind, but you
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but it literally says godmind, right, l elements, this godmind.
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So alchemy is very much associated with the physical development
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of chemical systems and so forth, and godmind right becoming
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the internal exoteric self development. And my next picture is
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actually of the four elements, but the four elements of
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the Philosopher's Stone, right, which brings together exactly what Jules
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just talked about. There's the four elements of the Philosopher's Stone.
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Why is there four elements because I think because of
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obviously the four elements that we just spoke of, but
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also the four elements that are at the basis of
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almost everything. If we're looking at things through that veil.
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It's not the only way to look at things, but
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it's a powerful way to start to look at look
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at things.
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And the next you kind of have a reflection of
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both the three and the five within the image. So
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the three and the four creates the twelve, right, And
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when you're talking about the five and the four, you're
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talking about fractals, right, So you've got the fifth element,
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which is all these different fractals coming off, which you
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could do within the next circle or the next circle
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out right, So each one of these circles is equidistant,
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and that creates another fractaling creation from the symbol itself.
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So you've got five and the three, which you know,
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philosophers Stone incorporates both of these numbers very heavily.
490
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:41.320
Yeah, and then I was going to point out you
491
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.320
have the feminine inside of the masculine, and then the
492
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:48.320
masculine inside of the feminine. I don't know, it's it's.
493
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.199
Kind of weird, that's perfect.
494
00:35:51.719 --> 00:35:54.000
I've noticed that a lot with a lot of these symbols,
495
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.280
And you were talking about the polarity stuff earlier, you know,
496
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.320
the kind of exactly realistic aspect to.
497
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.239
It, just real quick.
498
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.239
I was just even thinking of how you kind of
499
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.320
like said that you're seeing repeating. I wonder if that
500
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.039
even goes with like the yadhey vade for because what
501
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:13.119
you know that's for again, but that is you know, king, queen,
502
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:16.800
prince and princess, So you would see like male female
503
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:21.559
male female repeat that way, right, So I wonder like
504
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.599
if there's like something to like what you were saying here.
505
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.320
I wonder if and I was also thinking against he
506
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.920
was talking about like four stages to like some kind
507
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.039
of piece of art, right, there's also four stages to life.
508
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.679
In a way, tetra.
509
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:42.639
Grammaton just means four full name, right, so they're talking
510
00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.840
about these different letters within that. So tetragrammaton and the
511
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:54.920
tetra graandma tom formula. You know, is that generation go ahead, Jules,
512
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:59.159
Oh no, no, no, no. I I was just pointing that out.
513
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.199
You can't to have like your young like from when
514
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.960
you were born up until you become a young adult.
515
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.639
That to when you're like you know, in your forties
516
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.519
or fifties, like your early fifties maybe that until your
517
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:15.239
late age and then you know, because we're supposed to
518
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.639
live for longer, up until probably a little past one hundred.
519
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:23.679
Just like if we were to live healthy, like if
520
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.760
we were to live a healthier lifestyle and you know,
521
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.039
be able to stay away from all this shit that
522
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.039
the government puts in the air and in the food
523
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.480
and in the water and all that, we'd probably be
524
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.599
able to live a little longer.
525
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.360
Right, So, oh, definitely, definitely.
526
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.400
Maybe I'm off on that, maybe there's more than four
527
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.119
stages to life, but I'm thinking like in a long
528
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.360
span kind.
529
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:49.760
Of Yeah, No, it's the primary. It's the primary. And
530
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.119
then of course there could be several different other fatsets
531
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:56.119
as things go on, and you could recognize, but it is,
532
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.800
it is considered the primary American Indians from the Hindus
533
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:04.599
is the four stages of life. And here's another depiction
534
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:09.760
of the four elements. Again one of my favorite words
535
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:15.679
because it just it denotes that alchemy of becoming the godmind.
536
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.719
So yeah, and the next one I Nick just took off.
537
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.119
But this also we can see duality of polarity obvious, right,
538
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:34.000
I Mean, that's that's a an easy easy note there.
539
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.119
What it all comes together you have as above, so
540
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.719
below you get all the figures combined.
541
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:47.599
Absolutely, and again you're masculine and feminine triangles, right.
542
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.119
Projective, receptive.
543
00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:55.559
And one thing I like to do just as a
544
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.119
kind of mental exercise is find contrasts. So if these
545
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.880
shapes are depicting an idea, it is a wonderful format
546
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.039
to just form contrasts. But usually people only go to
547
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:17.400
an either or contrast, and that's very limiting. You know,
548
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.280
if you have the A and B, that's the either or,
549
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.519
but you have to have the A B too. The
550
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.719
synthesis and the nalysis is the term that I came
551
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.920
up with, and you know, to that, there's the whole
552
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:39.800
idea of thesis, anti thesis and synthesis related to cause
553
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:47.440
a cause? What is the three M thinking of? Where
554
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.719
they where they steer decision making?
555
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.079
Right?
556
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:57.400
The Hegelian dialectic is from this thesis solution problem reaction
557
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:02.239
solution is from this philis offical outlook of thesis, anti
558
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.559
thesis and synthesis.
559
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:06.360
The solution often has.
560
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:09.559
Pointed out as they already had it planned right.
561
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:11.519
So uh.
562
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.320
And the next one, one of my favorite sets of
563
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:18.320
four is geometry, and I feel like this is really
564
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:25.599
not only valuable in understanding things, but it is really
565
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:29.519
the basis for the biblical God, as we'll see. Nixt
566
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:35.159
Nick go to the next one, and and here's yahweh
567
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:39.000
h excuse me. Here here is yode hey yap right,
568
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:46.000
and the yode it literally is the point. The four
569
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:51.119
dimensions of geometry begins with the point. The next is
570
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:55.960
a window and behold, so a window it implies a view,
571
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.239
and it is very much like a plane, like a
572
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.360
plane of glass. But it also there's a room. So
573
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:08.039
they're using the same word here to symbolize I think
574
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:15.360
plane and volume. So and the vove again, it literally
575
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:18.239
means peg or connector or nail.
576
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:20.400
It is it is the line.
577
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.880
So the whole Bible at its basis when they talk
578
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:29.760
about the g and generation and geometry, it's the four
579
00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:31.199
dimensions of geometry.
580
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:37.199
It's right there. So the next one.
581
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:38.920
Oh, you don't wanted to say real quick, Ethan, you
582
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might have been a I think you had the screen off.
583
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.199
I don't know if you can still hear. Did you
584
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:46.440
hear what I said about the yad vade before? I?
585
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.039
Yeah, yeah, you were getting at that. What what would
586
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:49.880
repeat it?
587
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.639
Jules had mentioned before like sometimes and he's right, you'll
588
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.920
see like kind of like male female male female like
589
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.440
symbolism within each other, you know, and going back and forth.
590
00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:01.039
And I said, I, you know, I wonder if that
591
00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:04.679
could maybe be even represented the Yad formula or if
592
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.119
there is like the same idea behind that, because if
593
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.480
you think about it magically, if I was using it,
594
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.159
like you know, in ceremonial magic, that would be the
595
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.800
only king, queen, prince, and princess.
596
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.920
I mean you're getting you know, male female male fall.
597
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:20.920
And that's funny that you would see this with the
598
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.440
name of a deity, right, because the same thing happens
599
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:33.719
with fuck, the same thing happens. I'm pretty sure with Lucifer.
600
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.320
Trying to remember, I think the Greeks maybe worship Lucifer
601
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:40.360
as Mars, right headless.
602
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:44.280
Well, the Greeks thought of Lucifer.
603
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.320
Lucifer as Mars. Sorry, is the.
604
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.480
Titan of the Dawn and so Yos for us is
605
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.840
what they call called Lucifer.
606
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.639
Which is where comes from.
607
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:06.000
It's it's the Latin or eosphorous. So yeah, yeah, in Latin,
608
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:12.480
his mother would be called Aurora, like Aurora Colorado. Okay,
609
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.360
but think about this as if it's hieroglyphs, right, you
610
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.519
have the father above, you have the daughter with the
611
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.519
hair coming down or the window with the light shining in.
612
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.199
Then you have the sun as the generation below, and
613
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.599
then you have the daughter with the hair coming down,
614
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.440
you know, sort of like the vision of the mother. Yeah,
615
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.519
you've almost got the hieroglyphs for those four different parts
616
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:41.079
of the terror.
617
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.280
Yes, yeah, yeah, I was.
618
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.719
Just going to say they represent him as Mars because
619
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:49.519
of the red glow that Mars is.
620
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.119
Right, and then but then also there's a feminine aspect
621
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.280
being Venus, right, Yeah. I think it's like that with
622
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.400
maybe all the planets. I don't know, maybe I few.
623
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.239
Will you can probably find bits and pieces of it.
624
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.599
I think they all have the same aspect. They'll both have.
625
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:21.280
Oh what was that positive and negatives.
626
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:25.360
Venus specifically, you've got uh Venus and Adonis. Right, You've
627
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.840
got the idea of these uh dying and rising figures
628
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.400
being associated with this planet of Venus, which is this
629
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.199
morning star and evening star. One third of the year
630
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.800
it's in the morning and one third of the year
631
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.960
it's in the evening. So having the Venus connection, which
632
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.159
creates a big flower of life in the sky, it's
633
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.400
sort of like the completion of four, which would be
634
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:48.840
the five.
635
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:51.159
Wow.
636
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.199
Yeah, And I always or I started to think about
637
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:05.119
the tetragram aton as being kind of a secret that
638
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:10.480
is overtly right in front of our face. Because the pentagram,
639
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:16.119
we know that that means five count shape, right, but
640
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.239
tetra gram that would be a four count shape. But
641
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:26.719
it's not tetragram, it's tetragrammaton. And so that suffix is ation.
642
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.320
It's similar to shun t i o n in English
643
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:32.440
or Latin even.
644
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:35.000
Variously.
645
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:40.280
And but but I think it means grammar, grammation. Right,
646
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.639
So this this whole idea of the uh, what is
647
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.320
tetragrammaton When you look it up in the Bible, Tetragrammaton
648
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:52.199
is L. What is l L is God? And so
649
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.800
tetragrammaton is literally saying that it's a it's a four
650
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.159
grammar of understanding God.
651
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.280
In a way. You know, you.
652
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:07.239
Talk about five, though, five I think is really important,
653
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.719
and I think east and west. One thing that is
654
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.719
shared with the five is motion. It puts these base
655
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:21.599
pillars into motion. So you could you could you could
656
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.480
think about five as being the activation actually very much
657
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.960
like our hands, right, we have four fingers.
658
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.400
But what makes it work? Is the fifth?
659
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.960
Well, right, no, that's that. That's what I was going
660
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.280
to say. You have your four fingers and then your thumb,
661
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:42.079
which is your godhead, right, and uh yeah, same thing
662
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:46.280
with the you know, the what's it called the Vitruvian
663
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.679
Man or whatever. Yeah, five points. But then with like
664
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:56.719
the crucified man, you have four. Right, So I don't know,
665
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:58.440
I don't know if there's something to that.
666
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.119
Yeah, you just drug my curiosity on that because I
667
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.280
love the Simpsons. I've been watching the Simpsons since I
668
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.320
was a little kid, since they first came out, right,
669
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.239
And if you remember, they had four fingers, right, and
670
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.039
uh god when they when God was shown in the Simpsons,
671
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.639
he had what we would call normal.
672
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.760
Five four fingers in the thumb.
673
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.159
Remember, Oh that's crazy.
674
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.679
You know what everybody says about Matt Greeney too.
675
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.639
So well, yeah, they were messing with dimensions, weren't they.
676
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.320
That's what they're kind of telling you what They actually
677
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:36.639
had it.
678
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.280
They actually had a show on that too.
679
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.000
They had a bunch of shows on that.
680
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.119
Well they I mean, The Simpsons has predicted how how
681
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.920
much shit that's happened, Like they've definitely, they definitely had
682
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:54.760
some form of like I don't know, some kind of
683
00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.559
loophole or portal looking into the future, like I I
684
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:01.199
don't think.
685
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.800
About all the treehouses of horror.
686
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.639
I'm fucking convinced now, dude, Like.
687
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.639
Yeah, about the houses of Horror.
688
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.840
Y know, I have brought that up before, you know, Jules,
689
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.400
that's like I've seen the Simpsons do that so much.
690
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:18.119
You have the song questioning how you know what I'm saying, like, like,
691
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.239
how are they? You know, like I know it is
692
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.440
kind of interesting and like wow, like this's pretty cool,
693
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.559
Like you know, they they called it out, but it's like.
694
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:28.960
Wow, the fuck are you doing that? Yeah?
695
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.559
It is fucking weird? Man project looking Glass?
696
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:34.679
Yeah, yeah it was.
697
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.320
I don't know, man, I think this kind of stuff
698
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:41.440
has been around a lot longer than you're told, uh,
699
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.760
through many ways, you know, scrying or however.
700
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.920
Think about how archetyple the show is. All the different
701
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.400
elements of that show are like archetyple of different factions
702
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.480
within society. So they're making statements about all of these
703
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.840
different relationships that have to do with how we see
704
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.239
each other and you know, sort of like stereotypes, and
705
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.199
they were able to do that because it wasn't as
706
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.000
woke back then, but in doing so, it made these
707
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:18.360
relationships that sort of stick in our minds. When it
708
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.400
comes to relationships with other people. You can kind of
709
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.440
steer people around through their behaviors a little bit.
710
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.800
I think, now, what does this represent, Nathan, Because this
711
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.599
is the this is the alchemical colors all over again.
712
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.039
Yes, this is an American Indian medicine wheel, and it
713
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:45.239
represents the four brothers of Man, white, black, red, and
714
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:51.000
yellow skinned people. And their idea is that these people
715
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:57.039
all come together and bring out the one idea in
716
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:02.519
a unified manner. Each one has a different aspect of
717
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.639
the story that when brought together, they.
718
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.360
Get the whole story right.
719
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:15.119
And the four directions the four people's the four is numerous,
720
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:21.159
widely significant among the American Indian people, especially in the Southwest.
721
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:22.079
You know.
722
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.519
Okay, one thing that I've noticed with the Native American
723
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.320
symbolism too, you see it popping up like in a
724
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:33.639
occultism that came over from like Europe, but like symbolism here.
725
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.960
So that's kind of interesting. I have seen that happen,
726
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.280
Like it's certain ocult orders are actually like you.
727
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.639
Who did they learn it from? Like the day did
728
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.000
they learn it from some ancient occult order that was
729
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.480
there long before, you know, long before we were told
730
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.760
the first people came over and found America.
731
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.840
Oh, like I think go ahead.
732
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No, I just was gonna say, I think it's possible,
733
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please go ahead.
734
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And there like like an example is a Denning and Phillips.
735
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.320
I don't remember their first name. They have like some
736
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.920
book set on magic. I mean I didn't know until
737
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.119
I think I had thrash on when he covered like
738
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:17.079
the Micmac the Micmacs. This star is or this symbol
739
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:18.800
they have on the front of their cover is a
740
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.320
fucking their medicine wheel. But it just looks different than
741
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.559
normal people. I mean, that's different than normal ones. So
742
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:27.119
like you kind of thought it was like some just
743
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.639
you know, fancy a pointed star. And then I was like, oh,
744
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.480
they're actually just ripping off a fucking Native American symbol
745
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:34.719
and they put it on the front of their magic book.
746
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.199
You know, so shit like that. Somebody doesn't even know
747
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.400
what that is. They just take for granted some you know,
748
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.199
ceremonial magic symbol.
749
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.800
I was like, well, it's it's like, you know, it's
750
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.480
kind of like that with squaws.
751
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.639
Right, yeah, he goes, yeah, like.
752
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.119
More of an ancient symbol than a lot of people,
753
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.719
you know, like they're not even aware of that. And
754
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:00.960
how many civilizations and cultures have you use that symbol?
755
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.079
Maybe headless those where it actually came from originally, I
756
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don't really know.
757
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.440
It's ubiquitous across five continents during a certain time period
758
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:17.599
in prehistory. You've got that symbol as being ubiquitous across
759
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five continents. If that doesn't mean people were connected, I
760
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:21.960
don't know what to tell you.
761
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Man.
762
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:23.880
Well, here's a.
763
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Symbol, and this is used often as a calendar, right,
764
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.360
medicine wheel would be used as a calendar system overtly, ceremoniously,
765
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.599
probably different ways to Here is what I think a
766
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:48.239
significant set of four pertaining to all the megalithic constructions.
767
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:48.000
On the planet.
768
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:55.800
They are all markers of day, year, and direction and
769
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.360
celestial connection.
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00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:07.360
Dude, speaking of we're just talking about Germany. These are
771
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.679
the These are the colors for the German flag. Yes,
772
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.039
that weird synchronicity.
773
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.239
Sorry, proto Indo European.
774
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.039
Well, they were very much the alchemists, yeah.
775
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.199
Man, Albido, Negrito Rubido and I forgot what the yellow
776
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:26.480
one was do you know what that is?
777
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:27.000
In Latin?
778
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.000
I forget right.
779
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.679
Now, Dan, you put us all on the spot.
780
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.119
Fuck, I gotta look into that now. I'm sorry, guys.
781
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:40.760
This is a wonderful aspect of what this medicine wheel represents,
782
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.400
where all these ideas come together and they get the
783
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.079
full story rather than just the aspects that they've been
784
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:47.719
holding onto.
785
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.719
For the symbol of war really has that too, right?
786
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.360
And let's let's go to the next one, because each
787
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.559
of these we could spend a lot of time on
788
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.840
and and find that there's the exoteric philosophical aspect and
789
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.840
the esoteric initiatory aspect too, even of the medicine wheel.
790
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:19.760
One of the most esoteric games that is probably you
791
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.840
know as the mostoteric fans is baseball. And and we
792
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:31.599
can see that there is a compass and square set
793
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:36.800
up on the field right. The reason it is base
794
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:42.239
ball is not because of the bases. It's because four
795
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:48.079
is base. Your base set of thinking is four.
796
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:50.079
Ethan.
797
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:53.519
Well, well, there's a really dope article where I get
798
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.679
into this on the Occult Research Institute dot org, so
799
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:02.559
check it. But but again, this is just I wouldn't
800
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.280
say it's necessarily perverse in a damned way, but it's
801
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.400
a it's a perverse presentation of highly esoteric ritual.
802
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:12.440
Are all sports like.
803
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.719
Well, you can find different aspects of it, but none
804
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.039
like baseball, none like this.
805
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.719
That's well, that's probably one of the oldest ones, right.
806
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:24.960
That's it is.
807
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.639
It is out of England, and you know it's developed
808
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:34.119
over many years into what it is now. It used
809
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.280
to be different and it's modified, you know.
810
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.000
So you look at the Angels in the outfield that
811
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:46.920
is also literally angels in the outfield. Wow, the movie
812
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.239
title has such an esoteric meaning to it. Maybe I
813
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.639
don't know. Yeah, that's weird.
814
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:58.199
Mans through movies, you know, they they're entertained because they
815
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:00.199
know what the movies and the some of the and
816
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:01.039
within the movies.
817
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.920
Me we over here figuring it out later.
818
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.639
Figure homeboy, Christopher Lloyd is already dead, all right.
819
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.360
Field of dreams, dude. Think about all of the guys
820
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.199
who came out of the corn field onto the field
821
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.199
from you know, the outfield. That's that's so field of
822
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:21.280
dreams right there.
823
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:27.440
As the children of the corn right the dude, ha ha, yeah.
824
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.360
So baseball is it's the American pastime. But it's the
825
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:40.320
American esoteric pastime certainly, right, and it even has the geometry.
826
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.440
You could look at it symbolically as the ball being
827
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:47.400
the point the line, excuse me, the bat being the line,
828
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.280
and you have the plane. And what do they call
829
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:54.679
where the pictures stand on headless the mountains?
830
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:59.000
Where did they come from? It came from the Theosophists.
831
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.679
Mm hmmm, that's right, right, that's because the guy.
832
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.159
The final version of it was basically developed from Theosophist
833
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:13.119
crew and a president of the Theosophy at one time. Yes,
834
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:16.039
although it's much older than that, but not in its
835
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:17.119
current modification.
836
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.639
Do you know what they should bring back Roman gladiators
837
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:27.079
but American gladiators with like real fucking blood sports like
838
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:30.599
the lie used to.
839
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.719
Be a bit more like that, like that you'd get tackled.
840
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.320
Like should be out of you with a bag.
841
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:41.960
They should do that.
842
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.440
Yeah, yeah, right that you get people got like life,
843
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.519
I mean that life death death sentence.
844
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:48.000
Just tell there you go.
845
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.239
They called it based based ball for a reason.
846
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:55.800
I was a beggar bro.
847
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.519
So yeah, remember we got the compass and score right there,
848
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.440
everyone can see right and and we remarked earlier, where
849
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.920
is the origination of some of these symbols, like we
850
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.599
see them so widely used, right, like the Freemasons copped
851
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.880
onto the compass and square.
852
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.000
Was it not used before them?
853
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.840
Certainly it was like no, no, no, megalithic site was
854
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.199
built without a compass and square.
855
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.440
Right, So we can we can move on.
856
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:31.519
But just a powerful anecdotal view of how they'll use
857
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:38.239
these ideas in an exoteric manner. Here is Pentanjolli, and
858
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:45.480
Pentanjali is a Thoth entity from India, and that is
859
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.760
noted to be the creator of yoga and specifically the
860
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:57.639
eight limbs of yoga. And she has a snake excuse me,
861
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.400
he has a snake body, and and I relate him
862
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:06.039
to to that both energy of the Great Teacher, mainly
863
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.119
because of actually the eight limbs of Yoga. Nick, we
864
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:10.119
can go to the next one.
865
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.760
That's interesting, you uh kind of linked it to that,
866
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.639
to that entity. I found him to be more similar
867
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:22.800
to Vishua Karma. But that's it. That's it.
868
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.679
I think. I think with.
869
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:32.719
Especially the Hindu set of gods, the Hindu pantheon, which
870
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.039
is so wide and diverse it's crazy. I think that
871
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:41.559
there can be attributes of Thoth for instance, in many
872
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:42.440
different gods.
873
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:43.400
Uh.
874
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.440
In fact, Ganesha I believe has a lot of both
875
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:48.280
qualities too.
876
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.639
That's funny you said that because I had him down.
877
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.880
I have my little list, you know, I have him
878
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.719
down right next to that other name. So now I'll
879
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.239
add you the name that you.
880
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:01.719
Just what about the terror? What about the tarot that
881
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.239
looked like the universe card, you know, with the snake
882
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:09.639
around the outside of it, that had total Tarot vibes
883
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:12.960
for me, at least from the Crowley tarot. And that
884
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:18.480
whole idea goes back. What's that constellation with the guy
885
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:26.199
who's holding the snake? Ofiucus, right, Ofiucas is the thirteenth
886
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:32.239
constellation that goes along with a lunar calendar. So Ofiucas
887
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.239
is like the thirteenth moon or the thirteenth month, and
888
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.280
it's sort of like above all the rest of the
889
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.199
other constellations.
890
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.880
One thing I discovered about the tarot that I haven't
891
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.400
seen others put forth, and I'm kind of surprised that
892
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:54.159
it hasn't been put forth before I noted it. But
893
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.880
there's the fourth suits of the tarot. Of course, there's many,
894
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.239
all these fours everywhere right, But the four suits of
895
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:07.639
the tarot actually completely correspond with the four dimensions of geometry.
896
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.119
The point for the sword, the line for the staff,
897
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.800
the plane is the coin, and the volume is the cup.
898
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:18.360
I mean, it's literally a.
899
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:25.000
Sacred geometry divination school. So Petanjoli presented the a lens
900
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.719
of yoga, which are a whole system of self development. Right,
901
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:36.039
it's not necessarily limited to posture, but also self development
902
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.000
in these ideations.
903
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:41.280
And the next one nick is.
904
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:48.760
The obduab and both is associated with well, there's the
905
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:53.480
eight again, but specifically with this eight, it's actually more
906
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:58.639
four pair, which little difference, right, But these are these
907
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:05.599
are four couples, right, for for complimentary husband and wife
908
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:11.239
type of couples. And these are the eight elements of
909
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:18.840
or the eight primary gods of ancient Egyptian cosmology, right,
910
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:26.760
And they are again the four pair ruled by Thoth
911
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:33.159
got renamed Hermes. Why because the town where Thoth was
912
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:38.440
mainly worshiped was also the town where these this ogdoad
913
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.800
which is also a Greek word. But and I believe
914
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:48.840
they're called the commnu, and so the town was the commnu. Uh,
915
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:54.199
forgive my poor pronunciation, but something something along this line
916
01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:00.280
that was Both town basically got renamed to Hermopolis, Hermies
917
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:07.679
and Hermopolis. The modern modern Hermopolis was was both and
918
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.360
Ogdad town basically or really eight town is what it
919
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:19.480
literally meant. The next one is an interesting and again
920
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:21.760
I think it's kind of like one of these teachings
921
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:28.000
that bring together and highlight other teachings from different places.
922
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.360
This is attributed the Fuzi And for those who don't Fuzzi,
923
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.880
don't know Fuzi, just just just wait because I'm gonna
924
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.159
enjoy this. But this is a really the from the
925
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:50.639
nothingness is the initial polarity. From that is the secondary polarity.
926
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:51.519
And then the eight.
927
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:58.519
Again, the Chinese system has the two, four and eight
928
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:04.639
uh idea to it too, the same with the Egyptian
929
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.800
construct is uh. You know, it's got its eight elements.
930
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:14.880
The Chinese divination system has the yin and yang and
931
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.679
secondarily after that the minor and major yin and yang,
932
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.599
and then the Bagua, which means the eight.
933
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.320
And we can go to the next one.
934
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.840
Well with the Egyptian system, the Agdad. The Agdot is
935
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.559
a primordial group of gods, so they're like the Titans.
936
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.400
Versus the Olympus, which would be the next generation. So
937
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:42.159
there's there's kind of a crossover between this sort of
938
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:46.599
separation from heaven and Earth having to do with the
939
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:51.480
Agdat and also magic being chaos. For all of the
940
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.440
Middle Ages, magic was order, but once we got on
941
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:59.639
into the twentieth century with chaos magic, then magic became
942
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.440
chaos us again. So it almost represents like that shifting
943
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.000
back to a more primordial view of magic than what
944
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:12.920
was existing in the Victorian and Middle Ages era. It's
945
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:13.760
kind of interesting.
946
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:22.039
Yeah, and it's amazing that they both that the Egyptians
947
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:29.199
and the Chinese had this eight elemental primary aspect, right,
948
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:32.440
quite quite fascinating.
949
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.199
Okay, do you need me to move on?
950
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000
Yeah, yeah, before we move off of Hermes, it's gonna say,
951
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.079
you see the same thing with the name her Mad
952
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.119
in Norse, I think Norse mythology, right, he was a
953
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.679
messenger of the gods. I don't know if there's anything
954
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:55.800
with the with the number four there. Maybe you can
955
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:02.840
look at that later about that guy.
956
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:10.079
So this is the arc of Raw. They actually found
957
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.599
a boat at the base of the Great Pyramid, and
958
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:18.800
it is a replica of the boat that is supposed
959
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:24.599
to take one across the Nile from the land of
960
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.840
the living to the land of the dead. And again
961
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:37.159
we see one of the main characters of most well
962
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.400
known of the set of eight, because the Ogdawad, it's
963
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:46.960
really hard to find concrete information on them. But Noot
964
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:52.639
is the primordial waters, that's one of the better known ones,
965
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:59.000
and and we see her carrying the boat. Well, in
966
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.519
the biblical story of Noah, we have Noah and his
967
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:07.159
three sons and their wives, which is eight.
968
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:08.199
Again.
969
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:10.360
But we look if we look at the boat here,
970
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.800
if you kind of you can see clearly the seven.
971
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.119
The beetle, I think is more to do with ra
972
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:21.199
and the sun above more imposed there you see the
973
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.159
four in the front, the three in the back, and
974
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:25.719
then if you look really.
975
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.800
Subtly, there's a snake.
976
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.840
In the boat too, there behind the behind the third
977
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.639
there on the left, So there's actually eight.
978
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:40.440
There doesn't a scare a beetle like shed it shell.
979
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.800
It's it may what what it's most well known for
980
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:54.119
is rolling a ball of manure downhill, and it becomes
981
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:59.679
kind of this symbolism for the sun and immortality by
982
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.679
by way of what it's behavior.
983
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:08.760
Another with Osiris with all with all that symbolism as well.
984
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:14.519
And and Osirius is the agricultural reborn god, right, and
985
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:19.760
there's that rebirth right, I think in a lot I've
986
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.000
seen this in a lot of this is a cultural thing,
987
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:29.199
not necessarily philosophical, but it's interesting talk about exoteric perversions
988
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:37.079
of highly esoteric ideas. The zombie movies will inevitably have
989
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:43.520
some agricultural like swamp thing or this and that there's
990
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.840
and a ball rolling around. I've seen several times. If
991
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:54.039
you know Egyptian rebirth stories and you watch can be
992
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.840
like super cheesy zombie movies. They've actually integrated some of
993
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.520
the symbolism of that. It's entertaining interesting idea.
994
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:06.079
Anyway, Well, I just wanted to throw into it about Knutt.
995
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.199
She was supposed to be the night sky, right, and
996
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.000
so the night sky holding up this plane of heaven
997
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:20.000
almost implies that this is the solar system, right, with
998
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:22.319
the Sun at the middle of all the all of
999
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:28.680
these seven planets, right, You've got this sort of apep
1000
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:35.640
character which is a massive asteroid in our solar system
1001
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:42.159
as well, that also exists as a serpent of chaos.
1002
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.880
And so if you take this as a direct sort
1003
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.680
of metaphor for our solar system. You actually get a
1004
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.039
really good view of it. And if you think about it,
1005
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:56.920
the beetle could be considered Earth, right Hey, Earth is
1006
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.640
sort of enlivening the sun and making it move and
1007
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:00.359
everything else.
1008
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:07.039
Yeah, yeah, I think you got something. There is so
1009
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:11.479
is apep the same snake at the bottom of Yigdrasil.
1010
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.800
There's a lot of similarities and there are so many
1011
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:17.119
snakes if you go back to.
1012
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.760
Get Yeah, yeah, I figured he may have been, like,
1013
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:20.640
I don't know.
1014
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:25.680
The orphic egg is surrounded by the snake and then
1015
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.920
he explodes and then everything comes out into form. That's
1016
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:35.079
the very first god protogonos, right, yeah, you.
1017
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:40.479
Know, I just would have and leave a rush. Crowley
1018
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.199
made that. He wrote that one, and that's like four
1019
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.840
different times of the day. You will, you'll do a
1020
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:51.600
prayer to the sun and the one that faces north,
1021
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:53.399
which would be which would be Earth?
1022
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.880
You do you got Kephra the beetle? Did you pray
1023
01:10:58.920 --> 01:10:59.079
it to?
1024
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:00.680
So?
1025
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.640
Like you said, hedless, you know, even they could be
1026
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.239
associated with Earth. It's even kind of associated with Earth,
1027
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:06.840
right there.
1028
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:13.159
No, that's great.
1029
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:18.159
The set of the Adua the eight or four pairs
1030
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:22.239
of Egyptian primary gods. They are snake headed and toad headed.
1031
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:27.119
And if if we could imagine the Nile thousands of
1032
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.479
years ago, it was probably just a you know, so
1033
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:38.199
full of life becoming and going. So this this idea,
1034
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:42.760
I think comes from not that there were snake headed beings,
1035
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.399
that there were, that snakes and toads were in the
1036
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.359
creation of itself, the life dependency flow of the waters.
1037
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:50.680
Right.
1038
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:55.520
But here's here's another the next one, Nick, or.
1039
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:56.920
Have this and you wants to decent.
1040
01:11:57.840 --> 01:11:59.960
I was just gonna say, maybe it goes back to
1041
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.039
the OM symbol. Right, So if you take the OM
1042
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:07.800
symbol as the symbolic cosmology that they're working off of,
1043
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:11.840
like these different levels of consciousness, then all of this
1044
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.640
kind of fits into that level as well. So like
1045
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:20.720
astral projection, you know, thinking about forms and meditation and
1046
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.079
separation from the senses, you kind of get these different
1047
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.760
images that are translated differently but on the same level
1048
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.199
in different languages. Right, they're interacting with the same kind
1049
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:38.880
of forms and translating it based off of the surrounding culture.
1050
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.560
And the It reminds me that the Hindus had the nagas,
1051
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:52.119
who are their ancient snake bodied reptilian teachers, right, and
1052
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.039
the next the next one is I.
1053
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:59.920
Think they're called the Nataru. I'm pretty sure and certain ya.
1054
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.399
I mean you see him in every culture almost.
1055
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:08.720
And and almost every esoteric cosmological thing, there's a there's
1056
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:13.359
a snake, sometimes taking taking knowledge, sometimes giving it.
1057
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.159
I did, I did want to point out this boat
1058
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.720
with the sun that the beetle is holding up looks
1059
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.960
just like the almost crescent moon thing at the top
1060
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.359
of the ome with the sun above it as well. Mm. Yeah,
1061
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.239
especially when you go back on the left.
1062
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:34.760
Nick, Oh, you know it's interesting even that prairie I mentioned.
1063
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:36.439
You're praying to the barge in the sky.
1064
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:41.880
Oh, and of course the dot the circle right there,
1065
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:47.239
there's your there's your point related to the symbol.
1066
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.279
Nick, does that remind you of an eye in any way?
1067
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:57.439
Oh? I don't know this one. No. Never, that's the pilot.
1068
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.199
There is so much content just by using the om symbol,
1069
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.520
breaking it down into its symbolic meaning, and then looking
1070
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.199
at everything around it, because it's almost like that's the
1071
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.239
seed and all of this stuff is the folies that
1072
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:13.079
grew out of it.
1073
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:21.199
Yeah, fascinating.
1074
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:29.039
The way that the eaching goes is very much in
1075
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.600
like that yin Yang process that was just described. That
1076
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:40.239
there's the wouji, the nothingness, and then the main polarity,
1077
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.079
and so on and so forth until they get to
1078
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.239
the eight elements, and the eight elements are multiplied eight
1079
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:53.560
times eight, and then you have your sixty four divination
1080
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:58.399
types of the each in right, which is really interesting.
1081
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:59.239
Here we have.
1082
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:06.199
Fuzi and his counterpart nw Wa, talk about sixty four.
1083
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:09.760
If you see these circles here, both of them have
1084
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:14.159
sixty four parts. This is from about seven hundred a
1085
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.800
d from the Tang dynasty. And look what they have
1086
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:22.399
in their hands, the compass and square. Remember this is
1087
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:32.319
from China. So we have this snake symbolism, their snake
1088
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:38.399
bodied symbolism, and the two counterparts. So new Wa rather
1089
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:43.000
Fuzi and his feminine counterpart new Wah are very much
1090
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:50.119
the folth energy of the Daoists. And there's various constellations
1091
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:56.279
on the side here. It's a very intricate image.
1092
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.600
I don't know, guys, it kind of feels Canaanite Phoenatian
1093
01:15:59.640 --> 01:15:59.800
to me.
1094
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:02.600
It could be I don't know.
1095
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:08.279
I don't know exactly, you know where which came first,
1096
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.119
Right right along.
1097
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.199
That silk road. You've got these ideas starting to spread
1098
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:17.319
out from the Mesopotamian area. And now you're talking about
1099
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:23.000
these snake bodied people, which comes directly from Greek mythology.
1100
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:25.640
When you're talking about eric Tonius who was the first
1101
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:30.439
king of Athens, right, he had a snake body and
1102
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.199
all the rest of these snake bodied things come sort
1103
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:36.560
of through this Greco Roman influence. If you think about
1104
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.640
mythology as a way of like colonizing other people through ideas,
1105
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.680
you can kind of see how this religion thing works.
1106
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.840
It's like you provide a compelling image and then people
1107
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:48.479
come to you.
1108
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:53.199
Yeah, it's like that snake bitch from fucking Golden Chong.
1109
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:59.680
Naugas Nagas are in that tradition as well. It's the
1110
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.640
pro to into European influence.
1111
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:10.239
Yeah, it's hard to say who influenced too because of
1112
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.079
the but you may be you may be right. I
1113
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.279
don't mean to refee you have this. I don't. I
1114
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:15.359
just don't know.
1115
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.520
It's even interesting with it too, though, you know how
1116
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:22.119
you would have like Hermes, you know, or well I
1117
01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:26.039
would still associate to with mercury on the sphere with
1118
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:27.760
the eight you know, or with the on.
1119
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:29.960
The eighth sphere on the Tree of Life. You do
1120
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:31.760
get to hermaphrodite there as well.
1121
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.199
Yeah, so like and I mean it I almost you know,
1122
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:37.039
in the DNA staff goes along with them, so I
1123
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:43.560
mean I even kind of see all lot here yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1124
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:51.119
There is in in their origination story. I would say
1125
01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:55.880
that Fuzi is the third created. So there's so there's
1126
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:58.720
Pangu and and he gives birth.
1127
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.279
Pengu is the Earth.
1128
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.000
He dies and becomes the Earth, very similar to uh
1129
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.800
Odin's cosmology, I believe before before Odin.
1130
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.840
He's called the Chinese Prometheus.
1131
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:17.720
Wow, so he'd breathe, you know, like that bringer of knowledge.
1132
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.600
He erupts from from an egg and his backbone becomes
1133
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:26.119
these massive mountains. And Pangu also bears the torch that
1134
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:30.800
he gave to mankind, and so he's also a giant.
1135
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:37.479
And they called the Chinese Prometheus. Yeah, and we see
1136
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:40.800
that there's the compass in square.
1137
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:43.920
It's a bit more refined of of of a set
1138
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:50.520
of tools. Pegu had the hammer and chisel. So so
1139
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.760
that's the the starting point of obtaining things is the
1140
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:54.199
hammer and.
1141
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:59.640
Chisel and Beatheus was hammered to the Caucasus mountains.
1142
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:00.680
Wow.
1143
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:07.119
Uh and uh, so pengu gave birth. When he died,
1144
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:11.239
he became the earth, but he gave birth to the
1145
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:15.439
mother of Fuzi and Newah. So in a sense in
1146
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:20.439
that story, Fuzi is the third born, the thrice great
1147
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:21.439
thrice born.
1148
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.399
Yeah. Yeah, so.
1149
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.439
I just wanted to say, yeah, it's really interesting that
1150
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.479
there's all these thoth like teacher like entities and the snake,
1151
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.760
the snake body and the sacred geometry.
1152
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.840
It's all it's all there.
1153
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:46.600
Right, so uh, to wrap things up, I wanted to
1154
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:55.279
go into Oedipus right and talk about Taro nick the
1155
01:19:55.279 --> 01:20:00.359
the origination of Odipus as he's thrown out by his
1156
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:04.880
dad because he gets his dad gets the prophecy that
1157
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:09.000
his son is going to kill him, so he hangs
1158
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:14.000
him by his feet on a tree, and he's he's
1159
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:20.399
the hanged man from like infancy. So pretty pretty interesting
1160
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.680
symbolism there. And again you have a tree and and
1161
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:33.359
uh he's rescued by a farmer another another another king
1162
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:39.640
nearby anyway, and his whole life is kind of screwed up.
1163
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:44.920
But we accept the answer to him, or the answer
1164
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:49.039
of his to the riddle of the Sphinx, but he
1165
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:50.319
gets everything else wrong.
1166
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.199
That's the that's the one thing that he becomes a
1167
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:56.920
hero for is because of his answer to the riddle
1168
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.279
of this fate. And that's really revealing about this hanged
1169
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:05.479
man influence is because he's like the ultimate mortal character,
1170
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:10.039
the ultimate flawed or fallen character, all the rest of them.
1171
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.039
Yep.
1172
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.159
So the riddle of the Sphinx is from the play
1173
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:21.800
of Otipus Oedipus. However you say it the next one,
1174
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:25.640
nick I got the riddle there that everyone can read.
1175
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.479
What walks on four legs in the morning, two legs
1176
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.079
at noon, and three legs in the evening. Most people
1177
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:40.479
know that the answer is man or humans rather to
1178
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:48.199
be more politically correct, the staff of old age being
1179
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.880
the third leg in the evening. But here we see
1180
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:56.720
Otopus and he's got a staff, and I would say
1181
01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:04.239
that the answer actually is the Master, the thrice Great
1182
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:09.359
walks on three legs, right, And and we see here
1183
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:16.239
otis himself himself as the staff there. And there's a
1184
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.560
second in this play again we're talking about when when
1185
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:26.159
Otopus goes to defeat the Sphinx. I believe he was
1186
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.279
even in the play was in Egypt, but I'm not
1187
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:31.439
one hundred percent sure he might have been elsewhere. But
1188
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:39.760
the Sphinx and Cherubim widely celebrated symbol of you know,
1189
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:45.079
a coming to get you character. There's known to be
1190
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:50.760
a second riddle of the Sphinx and a little bit
1191
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:54.960
lesser known. So I would just say that that with that,
1192
01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:57.520
it's not the old person, it's.
1193
01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:58.199
The master.
1194
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:10.359
Forehead two d that yeah, tetramorph tetramorphalypse, right, got a
1195
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:10.680
lot of.
1196
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:17.479
Stuff, and four is a super powerful number in all
1197
01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:22.880
of Asian countries. Sometimes it's auspicious and lucky. Other times
1198
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.760
it's not even on the elevator buttons right, like the
1199
01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:30.800
like flour thirteen in the West. And sometimes they won't
1200
01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:34.359
have thirteen either. No four, no thirteen a negative one
1201
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:40.399
and then they start. So the next one is the
1202
01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:47.520
second riddle of the Sphinx, and it just beckons the
1203
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:52.279
yin yang concept. Right, there are two sisters. One gives
1204
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:56.439
birth to the other and she in turn gives birth
1205
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:57.920
to the first.
1206
01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.840
Who are the two sisters?
1207
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.319
And I mean it's just just in that collaboration it
1208
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.600
just you see the yin and yang. The answer is
1209
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:12.600
is day and night right, And day and night also
1210
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:19.520
has a or rather one day has four aspects, just
1211
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:23.720
like a year. There's day and night in the first polarity,
1212
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and there's dawn and dusk in in the second polarity.
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So and now I'm gonna get into something that I
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01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:42.359
have not studied entirely. But it is so profound in
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01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:49.720
bringing together these four aspects and lessons of four that
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01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:55.439
I think it's worth sharing it. And and Elephus Levie
1217
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:01.880
is uh a foundational occultists, and he came up with
1218
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:09.399
the idea about the powers of the sphinx. And so
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01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:14.079
certainly the idea with the Egyptians was not getting old
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and carrying a staff. It was being immortal and holding
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01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:23.680
a branch of the tree of life. And that's really
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what the staff symbolizes. It's not your you're old, you
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need a stick. No, it's the reason why the kings
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01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:36.119
and the priests and the philosophers, Moses to Tahoudi to whoever,
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01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.199
they all had a staff because it is the branch
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of the tree of life.
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That they get to hold. Because they're empowered individuals.
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01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:50.760
So here's a set of the four idea related to
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these four aspects of the sphinx, which is nick. You
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01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.840
might have heard of these in Thalima. I heard that
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this is like a Thalamic things.
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01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.720
Well, yeah, I mean it kind of looks like.
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Yeah, I mean, it also kind of goes along with
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the will to keep silent.
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Kind of goes along with ter.
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01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:18.039
Right, right, it's all right there, Uh.
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I think that the first polarity there to know and
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to will. I saw this meme the other day, like
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people would rather argue about Crowley than learn about him. Ye,
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01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:37.520
people would rather say the expression do as thatout will
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without even knowing anything. You have to know first, otherwise
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it'll be horrible if you enact your will and you're
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01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:54.640
an ignorant, materialistic hollow you know, dunt the dunt like
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01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.760
we see so many today. That's no good. The first
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01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:04.359
aspect to do that will is to know. So Elvis
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Levi came up with this idea illustrated in the next one.
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All right, or or maybe maybe the next one or
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I forget where I'm at, but.
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Yeah, here here, here, it is right.
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Everything is possible to him who wills only what is true.
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Rest in Nature study know then dare dare to will
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dare to act and be silent. And there's that fourth
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aspect of silence again, and and it's it's very much
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like you don't want to be braggadocio. Also, you don't
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necessarily want to let people know your practice because they
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01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.039
want they might want to chop it down. You know,
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if you don't let people know that you're you're not
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01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:01.000
doing things harm harmful. I'm not saying to be clandestine
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and sneaky, just saying like sometimes you know, silence is
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just it's not sneaky, it's just showing by doing.
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And were big time into the espionage racket.
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That's true too. There's there's the exoteric interpretation of these
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esoteric ideas. Good point as absolutely.
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I mean, yeah, Crowley was my six agent, was he not?
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I think he was? And I five, I definitely think
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he was intelligence.
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Yeah yeah, whatever kind of intelligence I mean I think.
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I mean the same thing with fucking uh what's his name?
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Quino d John d Right, he was the original seven
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below seven Yeah, man, yeah, sucking each other out.
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Dou below seven is two bolcane.
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Wow, every day, thank you?
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Heavin to look at the.
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So the next one is just another elaboration of this
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UH four mode of magic. If you will that Elphus
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Levi put forth. To learn how to will is to
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learn how to exercise dominion. But but not this, what's
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01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.720
the true power dominion of self?
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Right?
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But but that that could be interpreted different ways, and
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and you know, exerted different ways.
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01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.039
But to be able to exert.
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01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:56.119
Will power you must first know. For will power applied
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01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.359
to folly is madness.
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Death and hell.
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01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:04.439
So there it is, right the whole what Crowley is
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best known for. Do as that will, and people will
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just say that like that gives them some kind.
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Of right to do as that will.
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01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:21.279
Well, you gotta know first, You must know first. So
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the next one I wanted to point out Nick, this
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is the eye of Horus, and it goes along with
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01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:35.439
the eaching process. Right, it's got up to the one
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01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:39.920
sixty four. It goes the other way, right, the eaching
1295
01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:44.399
goes to sixty fourth parts. This goes to one sixty fourth.
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01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:51.159
And this is heckat in an exoteric understanding. It is
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01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:54.560
a measurement system of grain in ancient Egypt. And this
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01:30:54.760 --> 01:31:01.039
was by these fractions. Is how they you know, measure
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01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:03.199
their grain and also, you know.
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I just want to say this in there real quick,
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if you really think about it, your your the accordia
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is basically like almost like grainy, Like it's really interesting.
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01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.479
Right, And I was going to say brain and grain, right,
1304
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:19.039
because this it's the way to measure the grain, and
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01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:23.680
it's also the way to measure the brain, uh as
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01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:28.840
as they do here, the smell being one half of
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01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:33.359
the immediate perception value, as they put forth, which which
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01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:38.560
I think we unknowingly like pheromones and so forth. These
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01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:43.359
are really influential things going on and we don't even
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01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:48.439
really know, you know, that we're smelling them sometimes it's
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01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:50.760
not like a conscious smell.
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01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:55.399
I had a weird evolutionary thought real quick, what if
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01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.720
how we see the world influences how our brains are
1314
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:05.600
sh aped, so different species of animals see the world differently,
1315
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:09.359
and in doing so, it's influencing the shape of the
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01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:11.880
brain instead of vice versa.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely, And even if you were to be a like
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01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:21.279
a feral human and you end up with dogs, your
1320
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:25.159
sense of smell is going to be dumb heightened just
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01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:28.520
because you're watching them doing it and you start doing it,
1322
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.439
You're you're just activating by practicing.
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01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:33.640
Right, So I think if.
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01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:41.680
Evolution requires a shifting of consciousness, sure, I.
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01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.159
Don't think it's a what if. I think it is
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01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:44.920
what is right?
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01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:46.600
Right?
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01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.079
That was now I was done with the images, Nick,
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01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:53.880
but the four it just is a base way to
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01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:58.920
perceive things and also a base way to develop.
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01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:00.199
And Uh.
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01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:03.319
One thing I forgot to mention is that the yin
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01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:08.239
yang symbol is actually the taiji and it means the
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01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.239
grand ultimate polarity. And so when people practice what we
1335
01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:17.079
say tai chi, it's not tai chi, it's taiji. So
1336
01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.840
they're practicing this self development system.
1337
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:21.319
Right.
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01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:26.039
So that's just another exoteric and esoteric relationship.
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I love it.
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01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.039
Oh you know what I wanted to pull up before?
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01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:34.680
Damn it.
1342
01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:37.079
I think I let me see if I have it
1343
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:40.840
just before when we talk about four's and like hates
1344
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.039
and stuff, and again there's these these two planetary sigils
1345
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.359
have to do with the mercury and Jupiter, I mean
1346
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.880
in Jupiter would be considered a higher arc of mercury anyway,
1347
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:51.640
kind of.
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01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:53.439
Uh.
1349
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:56.920
And you even have like the whole four you don't
1350
01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:05.039
go up before again that is for Jupiter and I
1351
01:34:05.079 --> 01:34:07.399
kind of just looked like even other ship you saw before.
1352
01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:09.399
And then I do have.
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01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.479
Harmonies was the Angel of Zeus or Jupiter?
1354
01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:22.520
And then uh, this one is interesting, the one for Mercury,
1355
01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.399
which would go with the eighth sphere. You do have
1356
01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:30.239
like a bunch of like four again four squares, four circles.
1357
01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:33.880
That was seeing the four repeated.
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01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:41.840
Still yeah, it's deep symbol.
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01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:49.039
Oh yeah, man, I learned something new every time I
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01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.319
come on this show, So that's great.
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01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:57.680
Normally I do too great information, Ethan, that was great.
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01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.880
That was uh yeah, I gotta.
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01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:05.600
Thanks for thanks for listening to everyone. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.
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01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:10.760
I think the fourth Initiation really has some inspirational ideas
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01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:16.199
and insights towards self development on our own, not necessarily
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01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:20.439
without the guides. It's not saying to remove anything you
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01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:22.960
might have learned before, but it's more just kind of
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01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:26.640
empowering for our own individuation.
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01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:30.199
Fourth dimensional thinking.
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01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:37.479
Uh, anybody have any questions anything?
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01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.199
I was just gonna say, I ain't get to get
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01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.039
to none of my times. Man, you're lucky, wrong and.
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01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:43.479
We don't have to have that discussion.
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01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:47.039
No, do you have any Yeah, it was anything? Was
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01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:48.920
anything that you kind of wanted to ask to bring up.
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01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.279
It's not any things specific that I can ask. I
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01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:54.720
just had, you know, I just like some of the
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01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.840
stuff that he talked about. You know, you know, the
1379
01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.520
four meaning complete and stuff like that plays a lot
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01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:03.600
of parts in Masonic rituals and ceremonies and stuff like that.
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01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:06.680
So yeah, I appreciate it. I'm going to get more books.
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01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:08.520
I've already read two of his books already.
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01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:11.680
So and he said the fourth Initiation is the fourth one,
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01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:13.800
of course, and uh there's other ones, so I have
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01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:16.279
to go back and get the other ones, read those,
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01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.680
then come back to this one and read this again
1387
01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.960
just to get more of a basic understanding.
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01:36:22.039 --> 01:36:24.319
So yeah, I enjoyed the enjoy his work. I mean
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01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:25.720
I've read his books like that.
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01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:27.600
As soon as he sent them to me or told
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01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:30.279
me they were on Amazon, Kendle, I was like.
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01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:31.479
Oh yeah, let me go get there. And I already
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01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:32.319
have another one on there.
1394
01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:33.920
I just got It's gonna be about another two or
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01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.159
three weeks before I read them. So yeah, anybody that's
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01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:41.199
interested in you know, either in meditation or numeraal numbers
1397
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.439
or numbers in period and understanding, you know, the consciousness
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01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:45.600
and the person within you.
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01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:48.279
I guarantee you you learn a lot from reading these books.
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01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:50.279
Thanks, thank you.
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01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:56.560
Definitely hell Us of Jules, did you uh want to
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01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.119
ask her anything.
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01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.399
Or what I was I was gonna say, we were
1404
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:07.520
looking into uh Lithuanian paganism because uh Lithuanian and so
1405
01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:12.479
uh there's this one symbol of Remova which is like
1406
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:18.039
the pagan h equivalent of their native religion, right and
1407
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.680
uh it has four snakes on the on the seal,
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01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.840
and it's like that's perfect, Like you're all about the
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01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:26.960
four and there's the four right there.
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01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.119
So I thought that was kind of interesting, not as
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01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:30.920
bad as symbol.
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01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:39.319
Yeah, And it's really knowing the four aspects of things
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01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:42.960
or even imagining that it might be there. When I
1414
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:49.319
look at symbols, and when I'm looking at even symbological stories,
1415
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.520
I find it really helps to decipher things, like with
1416
01:37:55.680 --> 01:38:00.760
the three two two idea, not necessarily verified, not necessarily
1417
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.079
entirely the truth, it's a possibility.
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01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:08.800
And also with the uh the riddle of the Sphinx.
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01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.279
It may not be that what I'm saying that there
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01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.720
is a fourth aspect, but but as soon as I
1421
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:20.199
saw that there's the threefold idea. It just kind of
1422
01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:22.319
made me think, well, we're there's a there's a fourth
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01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:27.279
answer here, So I think it does help interpret different
1424
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:29.359
different things.
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01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.960
Definitely, Oh, Ethan, thank you very much.
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01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:34.119
Man.
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01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.359
I'm really really happy you came back on it. Tod.
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01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:41.119
That definitely definitely, definitely definitely ten times better than last time.
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01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:44.640
That's because there was other people here, so oh yeah, man,
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01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:45.680
thank you. I appreciate that.
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01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:48.199
I appreciate you so much.
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01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.560
Oh yeah, uh yes, I guess we could just wrap
1433
01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:55.960
it up then, well let everybody like this shows and
1434
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:57.039
promote this stuff again.
1435
01:38:57.920 --> 01:38:59.840
Headless, what is going on over there? Man?
1436
01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:04.039
That was a great episode. It felt like a whole
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01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:06.760
initiation all on its own. So thank you so much.
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01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:07.159
Ethan.
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01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:14.520
You can email me your occult stories at the Headless
1440
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.760
giinat gmail dot com and we will read those on Thursdays,
1441
01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:19.039
so check it out. Thank you.
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01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:24.920
Oh yeah, Jules.
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01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:28.760
Nick again, thanks for having me on. Great presentation. Like
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01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:30.479
I said, I'm going to have to try to remember
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01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:34.640
to get your book sooner than later, Headless Tyrone. It's
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01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:38.920
always good hanging out with you guys, hearing what you'all
1447
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.359
have to say. These shows are a lot of fun.
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01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:41.880
Guys.
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01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:45.720
You can find me on Twitter, Great pield Pod, Instagram,
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01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:50.039
Great Pueld Underscore Podcast. I'm on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
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01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:54.359
all that good stuff. I'm on Locals and Patreon because
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some people don't like Patreon or their band from Patreon
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or whatever, So you can support me on Locals and
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01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:05.279
I post all the streams over there. You get basically
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like your own show on Patreon. There's it's all Patreon
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01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:16.520
exclusive content. That's so terry book review. We do watch parties.
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We do a lot of cool stuff. I might start
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having guests on Patreon shows and doing them on there
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01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.159
a couple of weeks before I drop them. We do
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the elohem etymologies on there before we drop them. So yeah,
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go check me out there. Patreon dot com, slash Grateful
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podcast and uh yeah, Sunday Chaos This Sunday Night, our
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01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:43.800
degenerate show that we do, new show or whatever it is.
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We just me and the boys get together, hang out, y'all.
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You take it over the Tower Gang slot.
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Well yeah, it's the t MO Tower Gang. Yeah, Tunnel Gang.
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But we're not Jews. Sorry, sorry, that's a bad joke.
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Get wait anyway, but yeah, y'all check us out tomorrow.
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I guess we'll be doing we we got a couple
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of shows tomorrow, right, you'll you'll see me on one
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of them.
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Oh yeah, y on.
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The later show perhaps.
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Yeah, depending on it if you can, man, Yeah for sure.
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Yeah, this is great and uh, I appreciate you making
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me a part of this, Nick Hell.
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Yeah, of course definitely show and uh oh before we
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get to uh Tyrone and Ethan to let them plug
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the plug the stuff, I do want to jump in
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because people.
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Are player starting to like shut it off regardless, but
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I forgot to mention it in the beginning.
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There is events uh that the cult regions will have
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boots at uh Tyrone and myself will be at a
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bunch of them.
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Tyrone will be out a bunch of them with me
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and then maybe maybe even other people.
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But I did want to plug some of the dates
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and at least like where they're supposed to be at,
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So September twenty sixth to twenty seventh in mount Airy, Georgia.
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October fourth, uh, Franklin, North Carolina.
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That's like a big Foot thing that those both there Bigfoot,
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but they'll have the like weird other weird stuff there.
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Uh.
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Then there's Charlie's Beyond Believe October eighteenth, and Brook from
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uh the cole Rejects but Dark Florida Park podcast. She
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is actually speaking at the event, and she's got a
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booth next to us. We grabbed the booth number thirty
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three and she got booth thirty two. Fuck it, it's
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time may Soundic Lodge. You gotta do it right.
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Check check that place out. Uh.
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Yeah, Charlie's Beyond Belief and that would be in Fort Myers, Florida.
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So even if we want to come down and talk
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some shit and see if I want to catch some checks,
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you can come check me out down that October twenty fifth,
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twenty sixth. You were guy the UFO Comic Con in Greenville,
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South Carolina. Uh, November twenty second, UFO Comic Con, Moresville,
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North Carolina. And then December fifth and sixth some art
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thing with There will be authors, artists and filmmakers and
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weird stuff mount Airy, Georgia. So come check it out
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if you can. Most of those events too, are like
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ten dollars apiece. So even if you just want to
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like fucking if you're around in the area and just
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meet up with us and talk shit. Just ten bucks,
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So yeah, come hang out. We'll have a booth and
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we'll have some wild shit setup too as well. All right,
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I'm done talking, I'll shut up, Tyrone.
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Go ahead, sir.
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Yeah, this was a good show.
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01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:37.000
But you already know that Ethan, you bring great material
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01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:40.079
whenever you speak so or write a book, So either
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01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.720
way that goes, you know how that goes. Everything you
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01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.680
can find on me is on my website, Rebirth at
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the word dot com. You can find my rumbo, my
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01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:52.159
Twitter accounts, my Facebook accounts, my LinkedIn and stuff like that.
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01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:55.279
So yeah, just be on the lookout for my documentary.
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01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:57.880
Well it's not so called like a documentary type what
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01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:00.960
you see on television, but it's not gonna documentary of
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all the places that I'm visiting around the Americas and
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other places, so you get a more feel of it
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because a lot of people.
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Are going to AI and I'm trying to not do that.
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I want to bring real, authentic material to the people.
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So yeah, check that out.
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Hell yeah, thank you very much, sir.
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And last but not least, the guests of the hour
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and a half, almost two hours, e'sn in to go,
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thank you again very much, sir for coming on, and.
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No, thank you Nick for putting together all the awesome
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01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:31.800
shows Headless Jules Tyrone, I thank you so much for
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01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:35.439
your friendship and support that that was really fun.
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01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:37.439
Yeah.
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I'm on all the usual social media YouTube, Twitter, Facebook,
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01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.600
and so on, and I can be found easily, and
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01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.399
my book is on Amazon can be found easy to
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01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:53.279
and thank you everyone for the support. I was trying
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01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.439
to look at the chat and not laugh too much,
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01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:56.119
So thanks you.
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For the grown episode on my show. You Gotta Anytime
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one gray Field YouTube tire.
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01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:04.119
Ethan's got a lot to say. Actually, if you look.
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01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:09.960
Much stuff I got, I got PowerPoint presentations ready, so
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I'm ready anytime.
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Oh yeah for real.
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Every Tuesday thirty Central already dead. Uh me, Well, I'm
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the producer. I run behind the scenes. But Josey Gallison
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and Austin Picard, uh you can catch it on their
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channels or mine. I stream it to my channel too.
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So Tuesday did I say Thursday? I meant Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, tuesdays?
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Fuck me?
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01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:35.600
Is that why you're not there?
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01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:42.279
Sometimes ten hours a day? He's like, I'm there on Thursday?
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01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:50.640
Like wait, yeah, yeah, guys, great show tonight. Hell here
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show tonight fellas.
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Definitely, definitely, No, that was a great, great show. Ethan again,
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I really for me, I did you. I don't know
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01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:00.640
if you added all this stuff. It just seemed like
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01:46:00.680 --> 01:46:02.520
it was it was different than the last time, maybe
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01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:04.520
because there was different people here. But that was really
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01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:08.720
really great stuff man, and the chat was awesome, so I.
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01:46:08.760 --> 01:46:10.680
Tried really trying to make it a little different.
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But oh yeah, I appreciate it, man.
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01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:16.840
But uh yeah, that is the end of another reculled
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Rejects And thanks again for everybody in the chat. That's
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01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.319
what's up. Thank you all for making it tonight. And
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I know it's a little bit later, but I appreciate it.
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And until the next one, everybody be well.
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Later
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You see somethings going to happen. What what's going to happen?
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He'll take.
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What help.
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Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode. We got a
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very very.
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Very special episode.
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It is a bunch of the rejects together and we
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got a reject who had a book that we're going
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to talk about.
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But before we get to Ethan.
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Who's the who wrote the book, the author, we will
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introduce the other rejects. So Headless Giant, please let everybody
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know who who you are and what's up in case
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they don't know how you doing.
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Everybody Happy Friday. So you can find me on Twitter
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at the Headless Giant and on YouTube at the Headless
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Giant as well. So check me out there on Instagram
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and you can touch my show on Thursday nights where
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I read your occult and or Strange paranormal emails and
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you can email those two the Headless Giant podcast at
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gmail dot com. Also, I got a show with Ethan
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coming up on Sunday called The Trialogue, so check that
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out as well.
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Get those emails in and check out that Trialogue show.
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Thank you very much. Ellis and my man jewels we
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got them this week. Finally got them on again as
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you got me.
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What's going on? Guys, I'm Jules you see me here before,
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host of the Great Pill Podcast. Yeah stoke tonight to
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hear a little bit about what Ethan has to say,
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to hear about his book, and uh yeah, man, just
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to hear about the fourth Initiate. I'm you know, I
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have a lot of shows I do. I'm not going
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to get into that whole spiel right now. I can
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do that at the end when we do our plugs.
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But yeah, guys, y'all can find me on Twitter at
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Great Pill Pod, over on Rumble and Patreon, especially Patreon.
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We do some twin Peaks watch parties. Yes, Terry book reviews.
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Nick comes and hangs out for those now.
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Definitely check it out. Definitely, so yeah, I would say
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it's worth the money.
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So thanks for thanks for inviting me on again.
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Of course, always love having you man.
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Thank you, and that's good seeing all all of you guys. Man,
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Happy friggsday, guys. It's gonna be a banger of a show.
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Also, yes, hey we got Tyrone. What is up my man?
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Always a pleasure.
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What's up everybody? Thanks Nick? I appreciate it. You already know.
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I'm ready, man, I got your book right here on
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my candle bro and I have plenty.
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Of times on here, so you already know.
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Everything you can find about me is on my website,
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Rebirth oftheword dot Com. I love reading, I love how
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and discussions with authors, especially since I've read their book.
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It's a more uh personal with me because now I
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get to ask them for things for clarifications sake. So
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of course you know this is the time for me
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to ask some of those questions. So hey, I appreciate it.
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Rebirth of the word dot com.
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Oh yeah, thank you for joining us then, and we
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got the man himself, see Ethan Indigo.
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What is going on, sir? How are you well?
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I bow to all of you. Thank you so much
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for the inclusion and support. I really appreciate it. Yeah,
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I'm on all the usual social media writing articles frequently
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and easily cut I'll have to fix that tabulation, I guess,
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and easy to find on all the social media. And
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the fourth initiation really came about from my obsession with
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what I call the duality of polarity, or you could
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just say four.
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Uh and I you know, I.
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Explored really a whole philosophical outlook kind of universalism, uh,
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bringing together different sources of more or less the same
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principles or different takes on the same principle of this
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duality of polarity in the matrix of four. And as
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time went on, I realized that there was a whole
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other Really, the matrix of four is accused of being
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esoteric in one sense, but there was a whole other
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esoteric level to this duality of polarity. And so the
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fourth initiation, there is no prior three.
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Uh.
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The fourth initiation is essentially where I explored the esoteric
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and the exoteric understandings of different teachings. And this is
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a significant polarity when we look at any allegory or
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so on and so forth. Another polarity that is in
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the world we live, not necessarily within the interpretation, but
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is kind of put forth in a lot of different ways.
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Is the basic and the capital, or the base in
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the capital if you think about a pole, or the
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basic and the enlightened, if you will. And a lot
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of societal interpretations are kind of on the growth side
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of the polarity. So let's let's go to the imagers,
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and I'll start to tell kind of the little story
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and you guys, if you have anything to to say,
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please go ahead.
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I'm sure of course. Mm hmm.
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So for me, the idea around this duality of polarity
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or four began in a very exoteric manner. And is
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that is that I wonder the images aren't coming through?
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you would have to actually open
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up the image probably and then choose that as the
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window to share.
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Shoot, my bust. Well, I'll just I'll just read read
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this as as I try to export a few of these.
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So I wrote The Complete Patriots Guide to Oligarchical Collectivism,
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and I conceptualize that there's four types of mind states.
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Idiots avoid all new pertinent information, Zelots ask only certain
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questions of certain information, Elitists question information in order to
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manipulate and reap gains off the information. And patriots question
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information to share with others and benefit progress, initiate progress.
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If you will.
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And so this is kind of a really exoteric, simple
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kind of way of understanding things.
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And as I was exploring that.
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Book, I realized that there were all sorts of different
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aspects or sets of four, where there's over three and
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a unsaid fourth right and one of the powerful ones
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that I used, I think is the four wise monkeys,
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and that is usually considered to be the three wise monkeys,
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more widely known as the three Wise monkeys, but there's
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actually four. There's see no evil, which is kind of
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like the idiot that I put forth. There, there's here
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no evil, which is kind of like the zealot. There's
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speak no evil, which is very much like the elitists.
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and he's unafraid.
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and not just the exoteric as well, very very prominent
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in Buddhism. This next one is from the Allegory of
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the Cave, in which most people point out that there's
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three character types in the Allegory of the Cave, the prisoners,
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the captors, and the freed prisoner. But there's actually, excuse me,
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two different types of prisoners. There's the chained and the unchained, right,
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and this is this is very much like the idiots
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and the zelots.
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The zelots don't need to be chained because it's they're
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they're so entangled by the images, and so as I
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began exploring things further, there's this whole kind of system
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of understanding that really I put forth in the matrix
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of four as four parts of four aspects. In other words,
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each each of these four aspects has four parts. Excuse
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my redundancy. And the first one I use is arithmetic,
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and this is one that is absolute. There was a
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time period where people were obsessed, where mathematicians were obsessed
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with looking for a fifth operation.
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Of arithmetic, and there really are noney.
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and certainly in a very duality.
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Of polarity modality.
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the four absolutes of the mental. There's also the breath
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is the one I use for the physical. We can
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we can go to that nick. The breath is an absolute,
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not all life, but it's pretty much an absolute for
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breathing life. That there is an inhalation and a pause full,
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an exhalation and a pause empty. This is kind of
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a meditation technique to accentuate and be mindful of the
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pauses as well as the inhalation and exhalation and our breath,
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which I use is the absolute of physical as opposed
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to mental arithmetic functions. Just like this Yin yang depiction
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of orbits, all all objects in orbit of one another
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all around the universe. We can pretty much presume that's
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like a big absolute. It may not be true everywhere
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in the universe, for it is a big place, but
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everywhere where there's objects in orbit, there are four.
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Seasons, there's the there's.
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The duality of polarity of equinoxes and solstices.
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And so I got a quick question is do you
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believe the number four and all of these polarities are
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a type of transcendence from merely the physical realm.
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I do believe that there is an aspect of understanding
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the physical real realm towards being an empowered being in
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this realm. And there's also the meditative and initiatory aspects
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for certain And actually, that was funny you should mention
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headless because that's really kind of the next idea where
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I'm going, which, uh, what I use for the absolute
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of orbit is clear, all objects are in orbit. The
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next image nick is the own symbol, and this is
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one of the oldest symbols on the planet, and it
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is in four parts, and it is described in a
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duality of polarity, and one can conceptualize it as a
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depiction of consciousness for the material world and also a
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initiatory device for self development and enlightenment. Here we see
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on the left there that backwards, Well, what looks like
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the three actually contains two parts, right, And I was
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going to say, go to the next image, but I
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I need.
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To do that.
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Uh So there's the duality of polarity of the OM symbol,
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and the highest level is called Terrea, which simply means
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the fourth So there's deep sleep and deep awakening, and
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then there's deep dreaming.
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The terrea, the absolute deep awakening, right, and the point
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is the terrea.
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The line underneath.
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That is the Sea of Mara or the barrier or whatever.
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That is virtually impossible to cross this chasm from the
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third state to the fourth state. But it is possible,
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but but it takes takes a lot of dedication.
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So, yeah, do you know how deeply proto Indo European
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that symbol feels to me?
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Think about that as a mountain, right, all of these
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proto Indo European religions have a mountain, and what you're
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talking about is the different levels in the sky, god realm. Right,
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So you've got the Olympians at the absolute, You've got
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Turia as being like the Saturnian character deep sleep as
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the Titans, and then further down into number three, which
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is dreaming, which would be our level, our contact with
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the gods and their wakefulness, where we live on a
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conscious level. And that sort of makes up like Mount Ida, right,
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all of these different mountains represent sort of like a
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stairway to heaven. Mount Olympus. All of these ideas have
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to do with that sort of pyramidal figure, and you
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kind of get that idea with this this symbol as well,
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which represents a lot of what proto Indo European shamanism
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was all about.
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I believe that there's many tales about this symbol actually
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being derived from Mount Kailash. In certain different snow mount
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snow milts, you can see you one can make out,
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I know, symbol in Mount Kailash, which people don't know.
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It's the most sacred mountain and all the.
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Sacred mountain of all of India and all of and.
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The mountainous region there, it's not Everest, it's Kylash.
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kind of a Kabbala tree, right.
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I mean, that's why you have the check yourboard flaws
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just for the duality.
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So it's mathematics too, right, it's the duality of polarity.
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Which that's not esoteric. It's just like the way that
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we learn how to do things with a thing that
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we've learned. Right, Mathematics is like totally esoteric because we
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use this set of ideas to formulate and process all
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kinds of stuff.
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Then tell me about what the video I showed you
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about the the Lithuanians and the the Sanskrit words.
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Right, well, that's that's a whole whole rabbit hole. Really
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cool how that goes down. And four has this whole
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comparative unifying aspect to it too in its simplicity that
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there's only four. But yeah, that was mind blowing to
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hear all those words being virtually the same as all
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these ideas.
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Uh, that we're exploring here.
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but they're really kind of the duality of polarity. Yeah,
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this symbol, this symbol is the oldest symbol on the planet.
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old that it precedes the language. And and so you
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don't right out, oh you put you put this this symbol. Oh,
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and it's a it's a it's a four part annunciation
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as well, three that are overt and one that is silence,
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silence being counted and super important as we'll see uh
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A U M obviously are the three vocalizations. But and this,
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this is the type of symbol that is used for
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an exoteric philosophical outlook and also very deep internal esoteric development, right,
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and and there are above and the below. Yeah, so
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so this this represents so much that we're only scanning
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the topical here, so uh.
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Important to note right that it has that esoteric and
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exoteric idea behind it. Let's go, let's go to the
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next one. I think it's some writing. Okay, this is
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a really important thing that is not too well known.
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I found the ancient Egyptians conceptualized of course, what we
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commonly know is the doat or the TERREEA zinj asked
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the question, what is teria mean? It literally means the
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fourth so and and but it signifies the most enlightened
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aspect of consciousness. So I mean this is this is
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not a coincidence. I don't think the ancient Egyptians as well.
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They of course have the main polarity of the living
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and the dead, right, but they also have the polarity
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of the living and the gods. And there's three dimensions.
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The fourth dimension is for those that have transcended, for
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the few human beings that have become godly. And so
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there was this space within their kind of idea of creation.
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Let's see. Uh So the next one I was describing
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this symbol. Recently got an article on a cult Rejects
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dot uh uh dot org Cult Rejects Institute.
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One of my brain frying.
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Right now, the Cold Research Institute dot.
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Or Research Research Institute.
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I appreciate you put the article.
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Sorry, excuse my brain for I have a decent article
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on there about the circumpunked. Next Nick, the next pictures
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of the circumpunked with the twin pillars and the circumpunked
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is essentially three parts that makes a new fourth thing
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one could one could extrapolate. But you have the point,
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and you have the space, and you have the ring.
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Those are the overt three and to each side, often
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depicted in uh freemasonic imagery, to each side. It is
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the duality of polarity. And it's almost as if you
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have a three and a two and a two. And
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so I was conceptualizing this and it came to me
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one time that this seems like an important thing. The
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trinity and the polarity and the polarity are really kind
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of one of these symbols that might have a perverse
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and an enlightenment and an enlightened aspect to it.
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And yeah, have you ever seen green lantern comics?
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Of course, Yeah, break it down? What am I forgetting?
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Well, if you turn that symbol sideway right right right,
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so you've got the green and the gold, and it
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kind of makes the one, two, three, four five, and
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the fit level is sort of like the heart chakra,
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which is the tifferrath, which is kind of green and gold.
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And like their enemies are the yellow lanterns, right, and
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so they're fighting against them. So it's the green versus
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the yellow, and you've got that whole sort of tiphoretic
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feel to anything you imagine, anything you can feel you
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can actually create with the with the green lantern. It's
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like manifesting.
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Yeah, And that's what I feel like the circumpunct kind
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of when you focus on it just in your minds.
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I it really has a concentration modality for one, So
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it really I think does help accomplish, but I think
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the understanding of the duality of polarity really helps accomplish.
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One being a set of mercy and one being a
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set of severity, but the point being that you create
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and destroy either in severe or merciful terms. Mostly nowadays
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we're only in the severity. And in fact, we did
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a great program on Yahweh and Asherah. They're a total
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duality of polarity, unto themselves that.
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We only have Yahweh. Now, who's the.
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Storm God obviously related to severity creation destruction through severity,
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where Asha was creation destruction through mercy. And then in
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the center you have the Trinity or the thrice great
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of the initiate. So let's go, let's go to the
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next one, which it's kind of saying the same thing.
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But three two two is this Americana kind of.
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You know, lore Nick, you want to go to the
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next one.
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Sorry, yes, I was like, it's just in my seat.
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Three two two is also in Genesis. It has a
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polarity in it, right, and insinuates even two polarities because
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of the life and death and good and evil. So
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there's there's uh two powerful polarities that are really you know, primary.
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And of course they're talking about the tree right there too,
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which what is the tree? Two polarities?
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The skulls and bones? To me, what she's talking about
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that is that is the skull and bones. Yes, that
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is the skull and bones.
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that they're correct and not that they're on it. I'm
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saying that they're using symbolism to whatever they might be
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symbolizing it for I'm not sure, but I think that
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for me, when I see the three two two, I
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no longer see three two two, I see trinity, polarity, polarity,
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you multiply them like the two bones make it acts,
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you get twelve, which is like the twelve sides of
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the Zodiac. It's like they're they're making a perverse symbol
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for the zodiac.
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They're using symbolism in a perverse and basic manner. Write
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that whole idea where you can use it in esoteric
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and exoteric and basic and enlightened, right, And they're using
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it probably for very basic, gross means.
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And it seems like some stuff that's meant to be
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just like for the esoteric, they try to take that
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and make it for the exoteric and completely subverts it, right,
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It completely destroys what.
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It meant to be.
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Oh original, Yes, I totally agree with it.
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I think.
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We gets considered the.
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The you know, the stuff that comes like kind of
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everybody understands somehow becomes like, oh, that's all there is
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to it, that's the deepest ship, and we all know
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you know what I'm saying, Like, stuff like that happens, I.
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Think a lot.
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Right, So, just an interesting phenomena that relates to this
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idea of the thrice great the initiated being in control
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of this duality of polarity. And I'm not advocating them,
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I'm trying to pierce the veil of what they might
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be using not that they've not that they figured it out,
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they're using it potentially if if that has anything to
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do with the interpretations.
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I think that verse is the most powerful one in
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the Bible. That's for the rest of the book.
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Yeah, I mean, that's that's at the point where it's
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like you fucked right.
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It's the cosmological tone, you know, And a different religious
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and cosmological constructs have this same for mannerism, often of
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the good and evil, or often masculine and feminine, as
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Adam and Eve and life and death. Most cosmologies begin
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with these two polarities that are like the most powerful
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considerations there are among time.
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Right, you've got a dual polarity right there on that image.
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Yeah, there's the cross.
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And that's a mathematical rule that two lines intersecting create
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four corners. So every cross, mathematically it's two lines intersecting.
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However elaborate it gets, it creates the four.
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All right.
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So the next one is just me trying to be funny,
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little little mammology. And Carl Young was fascinated with this idea,
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and many times in his writing and in his speeches
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he mentioned that there there's three, but where's the fourth
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and actually, uh, in the free introduction on Amazon of
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my book The Fourth Initiation, one of the first things
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I explore is the Barto Total, the Tibetan Book of
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the Dead, which is itself a very esoteric idea of
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fascinating book, super fascinating. One of the dopest things Carl
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Young pointed out about it is that, of course, on
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the exoteric, on the primary level of this great teaching
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is that it is elaborating on the time between death
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and rebirth. But if you read it backwards, Carl Jung
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noted out, from from last chapter on to the second
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to last chapter, and so on to the first chapter,
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so that it that it is last, it is a
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story from birth to death. So so it's yeah.
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Speaking of story, every story arc takes place in four acts. Really,
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so that fourth act is.
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A song written that way too, yep, for four yeah, man,
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I would I would go even deeper to say that
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the whole Bible is, in fact not just the four Gospels,
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but the.
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Whole Christ story is a set of four and possibly
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even directly related to Hinduism traditions. But there's the birth, life, death,
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and resurrection, and and in our lifetimes we go through
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this in a symbolic way many different times, and and
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of course the the uh exoteric and perverse mannerism would
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be you know, taking it into too different different manners.
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But but this is this is the story of the Bible,
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one of resurrection. That's the fourth element, that's the silent part,
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that is uh, you know, so.
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So valuable, that's so attractive to so many people because
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it provides that fourth step.
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Yeah, yeah, man.
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So the next uh uh, let's see, So this one
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is elaboration of the symbol with the yin and yang
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and the four humers, the four uh the four humors
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were a Greek system of understanding what is uh, one
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could say, very similar if not exactly the same as
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one of the yin yang diagnosics practices of traditional Chinese medicine. Right,
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so very similar these ancient practices. And you have the
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four colors of alchemy.
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Oh yeah, in in.
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The phlegm and yellow bile and black bile and blood.
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Right. So, so when when.
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They say that there's four types of people or that
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there's four types of problems, will you know, are they
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what are they talking about? Exactly right? Because the ancient
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excuse me, the American Indians have a similar color construct
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in in their symbolism.
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Yeah.
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I take this image and look into the elementals with
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it now too, you know, because the four elementals, uh,
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you tie into almost everything when you look at being,
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like the you know, the what is it, the astral fire,
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the ethereal water, the physical earth, and the mental air.
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Right.
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Yeah, and and there's what that's become one of my
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favorite words, element elements because it's so esoteric, but it's
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often considered very primary and physical, but it actually says
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godly mind. I think it's this godly mind, but you
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but it literally says godmind, right, l elements, this godmind.
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So alchemy is very much associated with the physical development
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of chemical systems and so forth, and godmind right becoming
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the internal exoteric self development. And my next picture is
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actually of the four elements, but the four elements of
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the Philosopher's Stone, right, which brings together exactly what Jules
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just talked about. There's the four elements of the Philosopher's Stone.
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Why is there four elements because I think because of
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obviously the four elements that we just spoke of, but
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also the four elements that are at the basis of
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almost everything. If we're looking at things through that veil.
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It's not the only way to look at things, but
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it's a powerful way to start to look at look
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at things.
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And the next you kind of have a reflection of
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both the three and the five within the image. So
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the three and the four creates the twelve, right, And
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when you're talking about the five and the four, you're
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talking about fractals, right, So you've got the fifth element,
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which is all these different fractals coming off, which you
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could do within the next circle or the next circle
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out right, So each one of these circles is equidistant,
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and that creates another fractaling creation from the symbol itself.
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So you've got five and the three, which you know,
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philosophers Stone incorporates both of these numbers very heavily.
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Yeah, and then I was going to point out you
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have the feminine inside of the masculine, and then the
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masculine inside of the feminine. I don't know, it's it's.
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Kind of weird, that's perfect.
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I've noticed that a lot with a lot of these symbols,
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And you were talking about the polarity stuff earlier, you know,
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the kind of exactly realistic aspect to.
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It, just real quick.
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I was just even thinking of how you kind of
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like said that you're seeing repeating. I wonder if that
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even goes with like the yadhey vade for because what
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you know that's for again, but that is you know, king, queen,
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prince and princess, So you would see like male female
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male female repeat that way, right, So I wonder like
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if there's like something to like what you were saying here.
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I wonder if and I was also thinking against he
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was talking about like four stages to like some kind
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of piece of art, right, there's also four stages to life.
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In a way, tetra.
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Grammaton just means four full name, right, so they're talking
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about these different letters within that. So tetragrammaton and the
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tetra graandma tom formula. You know, is that generation go ahead, Jules,
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Oh no, no, no, no. I I was just pointing that out.
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You can't to have like your young like from when
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you were born up until you become a young adult.
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That to when you're like you know, in your forties
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or fifties, like your early fifties maybe that until your
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late age and then you know, because we're supposed to
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live for longer, up until probably a little past one hundred.
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Just like if we were to live healthy, like if
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we were to live a healthier lifestyle and you know,
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be able to stay away from all this shit that
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the government puts in the air and in the food
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and in the water and all that, we'd probably be
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able to live a little longer.
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Right, So, oh, definitely, definitely.
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Maybe I'm off on that, maybe there's more than four
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stages to life, but I'm thinking like in a long
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span kind.
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Of Yeah, No, it's the primary. It's the primary. And
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then of course there could be several different other fatsets
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as things go on, and you could recognize, but it is,
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it is considered the primary American Indians from the Hindus
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is the four stages of life. And here's another depiction
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of the four elements. Again one of my favorite words
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because it just it denotes that alchemy of becoming the godmind.
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So yeah, and the next one I Nick just took off.
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But this also we can see duality of polarity obvious, right,
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I Mean, that's that's a an easy easy note there.
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What it all comes together you have as above, so
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below you get all the figures combined.
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Absolutely, and again you're masculine and feminine triangles, right.
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Projective, receptive.
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And one thing I like to do just as a
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kind of mental exercise is find contrasts. So if these
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shapes are depicting an idea, it is a wonderful format
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to just form contrasts. But usually people only go to
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an either or contrast, and that's very limiting. You know,
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if you have the A and B, that's the either or,
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but you have to have the A B too. The
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synthesis and the nalysis is the term that I came
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up with, and you know, to that, there's the whole
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idea of thesis, anti thesis and synthesis related to cause
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a cause? What is the three M thinking of? Where
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they where they steer decision making?
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Right?
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The Hegelian dialectic is from this thesis solution problem reaction
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solution is from this philis offical outlook of thesis, anti
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thesis and synthesis.
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The solution often has.
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Pointed out as they already had it planned right.
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So uh.
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And the next one, one of my favorite sets of
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four is geometry, and I feel like this is really
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not only valuable in understanding things, but it is really
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the basis for the biblical God, as we'll see. Nixt
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Nick go to the next one, and and here's yahweh
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h excuse me. Here here is yode hey yap right,
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and the yode it literally is the point. The four
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dimensions of geometry begins with the point. The next is
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a window and behold, so a window it implies a view,
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and it is very much like a plane, like a
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plane of glass. But it also there's a room. So
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they're using the same word here to symbolize I think
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plane and volume. So and the vove again, it literally
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means peg or connector or nail.
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It is it is the line.
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So the whole Bible at its basis when they talk
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about the g and generation and geometry, it's the four
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dimensions of geometry.
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It's right there. So the next one.
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Oh, you don't wanted to say real quick, Ethan, you
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might have been a I think you had the screen off.
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I don't know if you can still hear. Did you
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hear what I said about the yad vade before? I?
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Yeah, yeah, you were getting at that. What what would
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repeat it?
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Jules had mentioned before like sometimes and he's right, you'll
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see like kind of like male female male female like
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symbolism within each other, you know, and going back and forth.
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And I said, I, you know, I wonder if that
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could maybe be even represented the Yad formula or if
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there is like the same idea behind that, because if
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you think about it magically, if I was using it,
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like you know, in ceremonial magic, that would be the
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only king, queen, prince, and princess.
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I mean you're getting you know, male female male fall.
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And that's funny that you would see this with the
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name of a deity, right, because the same thing happens
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with fuck, the same thing happens. I'm pretty sure with Lucifer.
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Trying to remember, I think the Greeks maybe worship Lucifer
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as Mars, right headless.
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Well, the Greeks thought of Lucifer.
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Lucifer as Mars. Sorry, is the.
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Titan of the Dawn and so Yos for us is
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what they call called Lucifer.
606
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Which is where comes from.
607
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:06.000
It's it's the Latin or eosphorous. So yeah, yeah, in Latin,
608
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:12.480
his mother would be called Aurora, like Aurora Colorado. Okay,
609
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.360
but think about this as if it's hieroglyphs, right, you
610
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:21.519
have the father above, you have the daughter with the
611
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.519
hair coming down or the window with the light shining in.
612
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.199
Then you have the sun as the generation below, and
613
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.599
then you have the daughter with the hair coming down,
614
00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.440
you know, sort of like the vision of the mother. Yeah,
615
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.519
you've almost got the hieroglyphs for those four different parts
616
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:41.079
of the terror.
617
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.280
Yes, yeah, yeah, I was.
618
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.719
Just going to say they represent him as Mars because
619
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of the red glow that Mars is.
620
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:54.119
Right, and then but then also there's a feminine aspect
621
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:59.280
being Venus, right, Yeah. I think it's like that with
622
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maybe all the planets. I don't know, maybe I few.
623
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.239
Will you can probably find bits and pieces of it.
624
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:11.599
I think they all have the same aspect. They'll both have.
625
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:21.280
Oh what was that positive and negatives.
626
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:25.360
Venus specifically, you've got uh Venus and Adonis. Right, You've
627
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.840
got the idea of these uh dying and rising figures
628
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.400
being associated with this planet of Venus, which is this
629
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morning star and evening star. One third of the year
630
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:38.800
it's in the morning and one third of the year
631
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.960
it's in the evening. So having the Venus connection, which
632
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.159
creates a big flower of life in the sky, it's
633
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.400
sort of like the completion of four, which would be
634
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:48.840
the five.
635
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:51.159
Wow.
636
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.199
Yeah, And I always or I started to think about
637
00:44:59.239 --> 00:45:05.119
the tetragram aton as being kind of a secret that
638
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:10.480
is overtly right in front of our face. Because the pentagram,
639
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:16.119
we know that that means five count shape, right, but
640
00:45:17.039 --> 00:45:20.239
tetra gram that would be a four count shape. But
641
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:26.719
it's not tetragram, it's tetragrammaton. And so that suffix is ation.
642
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:30.320
It's similar to shun t i o n in English
643
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:32.440
or Latin even.
644
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:35.000
Variously.
645
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:40.280
And but but I think it means grammar, grammation. Right,
646
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:44.639
So this this whole idea of the uh, what is
647
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:48.320
tetragrammaton When you look it up in the Bible, Tetragrammaton
648
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:52.199
is L. What is l L is God? And so
649
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.800
tetragrammaton is literally saying that it's a it's a four
650
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.159
grammar of understanding God.
651
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:01.280
In a way. You know, you.
652
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:07.239
Talk about five, though, five I think is really important,
653
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:10.719
and I think east and west. One thing that is
654
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:15.719
shared with the five is motion. It puts these base
655
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:21.599
pillars into motion. So you could you could you could
656
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:25.480
think about five as being the activation actually very much
657
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.960
like our hands, right, we have four fingers.
658
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.400
But what makes it work? Is the fifth?
659
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.960
Well, right, no, that's that. That's what I was going
660
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.280
to say. You have your four fingers and then your thumb,
661
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:42.079
which is your godhead, right, and uh yeah, same thing
662
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:46.280
with the you know, the what's it called the Vitruvian
663
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.679
Man or whatever. Yeah, five points. But then with like
664
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:56.719
the crucified man, you have four. Right, So I don't know,
665
00:46:57.199 --> 00:46:58.440
I don't know if there's something to that.
666
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.119
Yeah, you just drug my curiosity on that because I
667
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.280
love the Simpsons. I've been watching the Simpsons since I
668
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:06.320
was a little kid, since they first came out, right,
669
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.239
And if you remember, they had four fingers, right, and
670
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.039
uh god when they when God was shown in the Simpsons,
671
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.639
he had what we would call normal.
672
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:20.760
Five four fingers in the thumb.
673
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.159
Remember, Oh that's crazy.
674
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:28.679
You know what everybody says about Matt Greeney too.
675
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:32.639
So well, yeah, they were messing with dimensions, weren't they.
676
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.320
That's what they're kind of telling you what They actually
677
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:36.639
had it.
678
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.280
They actually had a show on that too.
679
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.000
They had a bunch of shows on that.
680
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:46.119
Well they I mean, The Simpsons has predicted how how
681
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:49.920
much shit that's happened, Like they've definitely, they definitely had
682
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:54.760
some form of like I don't know, some kind of
683
00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.559
loophole or portal looking into the future, like I I
684
00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:01.199
don't think.
685
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:02.800
About all the treehouses of horror.
686
00:48:03.320 --> 00:48:05.639
I'm fucking convinced now, dude, Like.
687
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:07.639
Yeah, about the houses of Horror.
688
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:09.840
Y know, I have brought that up before, you know, Jules,
689
00:48:09.880 --> 00:48:13.400
that's like I've seen the Simpsons do that so much.
690
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:18.119
You have the song questioning how you know what I'm saying, like, like,
691
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.239
how are they? You know, like I know it is
692
00:48:20.320 --> 00:48:22.440
kind of interesting and like wow, like this's pretty cool,
693
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.559
Like you know, they they called it out, but it's like.
694
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:28.960
Wow, the fuck are you doing that? Yeah?
695
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.559
It is fucking weird? Man project looking Glass?
696
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:34.679
Yeah, yeah it was.
697
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.320
I don't know, man, I think this kind of stuff
698
00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:41.440
has been around a lot longer than you're told, uh,
699
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.760
through many ways, you know, scrying or however.
700
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.920
Think about how archetyple the show is. All the different
701
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.400
elements of that show are like archetyple of different factions
702
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.480
within society. So they're making statements about all of these
703
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.840
different relationships that have to do with how we see
704
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.239
each other and you know, sort of like stereotypes, and
705
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.199
they were able to do that because it wasn't as
706
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.000
woke back then, but in doing so, it made these
707
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:18.360
relationships that sort of stick in our minds. When it
708
00:49:18.360 --> 00:49:22.400
comes to relationships with other people. You can kind of
709
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.440
steer people around through their behaviors a little bit.
710
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:30.800
I think, now, what does this represent, Nathan, Because this
711
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.599
is the this is the alchemical colors all over again.
712
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:38.039
Yes, this is an American Indian medicine wheel, and it
713
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:45.239
represents the four brothers of Man, white, black, red, and
714
00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:51.000
yellow skinned people. And their idea is that these people
715
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:57.039
all come together and bring out the one idea in
716
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:02.519
a unified manner. Each one has a different aspect of
717
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.639
the story that when brought together, they.
718
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.360
Get the whole story right.
719
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:15.119
And the four directions the four people's the four is numerous,
720
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:21.159
widely significant among the American Indian people, especially in the Southwest.
721
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:22.079
You know.
722
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.519
Okay, one thing that I've noticed with the Native American
723
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:28.320
symbolism too, you see it popping up like in a
724
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:33.639
occultism that came over from like Europe, but like symbolism here.
725
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:36.960
So that's kind of interesting. I have seen that happen,
726
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:39.280
Like it's certain ocult orders are actually like you.
727
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:42.639
Who did they learn it from? Like the day did
728
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.000
they learn it from some ancient occult order that was
729
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.480
there long before, you know, long before we were told
730
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.760
the first people came over and found America.
731
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.840
Oh, like I think go ahead.
732
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:57.079
No, I just was gonna say, I think it's possible,
733
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:57.760
please go ahead.
734
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:02.320
And there like like an example is a Denning and Phillips.
735
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:04.320
I don't remember their first name. They have like some
736
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.920
book set on magic. I mean I didn't know until
737
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.119
I think I had thrash on when he covered like
738
00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:17.079
the Micmac the Micmacs. This star is or this symbol
739
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:18.800
they have on the front of their cover is a
740
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.320
fucking their medicine wheel. But it just looks different than
741
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.559
normal people. I mean, that's different than normal ones. So
742
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:27.119
like you kind of thought it was like some just
743
00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.639
you know, fancy a pointed star. And then I was like, oh,
744
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.480
they're actually just ripping off a fucking Native American symbol
745
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:34.719
and they put it on the front of their magic book.
746
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.199
You know, so shit like that. Somebody doesn't even know
747
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:42.400
what that is. They just take for granted some you know,
748
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.199
ceremonial magic symbol.
749
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:46.800
I was like, well, it's it's like, you know, it's
750
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.480
kind of like that with squaws.
751
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:50.639
Right, yeah, he goes, yeah, like.
752
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.119
More of an ancient symbol than a lot of people,
753
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.719
you know, like they're not even aware of that. And
754
00:51:56.760 --> 00:52:00.960
how many civilizations and cultures have you use that symbol?
755
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.079
Maybe headless those where it actually came from originally, I
756
00:52:06.440 --> 00:52:07.119
don't really know.
757
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.440
It's ubiquitous across five continents during a certain time period
758
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:17.599
in prehistory. You've got that symbol as being ubiquitous across
759
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:21.079
five continents. If that doesn't mean people were connected, I
760
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:21.960
don't know what to tell you.
761
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.239
Man.
762
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:23.880
Well, here's a.
763
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:29.320
Symbol, and this is used often as a calendar, right,
764
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.360
medicine wheel would be used as a calendar system overtly, ceremoniously,
765
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.599
probably different ways to Here is what I think a
766
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:48.239
significant set of four pertaining to all the megalithic constructions.
767
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:48.000
On the planet.
768
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:55.800
They are all markers of day, year, and direction and
769
00:52:56.880 --> 00:52:58.360
celestial connection.
770
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:07.360
Dude, speaking of we're just talking about Germany. These are
771
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:10.679
the These are the colors for the German flag. Yes,
772
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:13.039
that weird synchronicity.
773
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.239
Sorry, proto Indo European.
774
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.039
Well, they were very much the alchemists, yeah.
775
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:25.199
Man, Albido, Negrito Rubido and I forgot what the yellow
776
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:26.480
one was do you know what that is?
777
00:53:26.480 --> 00:53:27.000
In Latin?
778
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.000
I forget right.
779
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.679
Now, Dan, you put us all on the spot.
780
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:34.119
Fuck, I gotta look into that now. I'm sorry, guys.
781
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:40.760
This is a wonderful aspect of what this medicine wheel represents,
782
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:43.400
where all these ideas come together and they get the
783
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.079
full story rather than just the aspects that they've been
784
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:47.719
holding onto.
785
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.719
For the symbol of war really has that too, right?
786
00:53:53.079 --> 00:53:56.360
And let's let's go to the next one, because each
787
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.559
of these we could spend a lot of time on
788
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:07.840
and and find that there's the exoteric philosophical aspect and
789
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:12.840
the esoteric initiatory aspect too, even of the medicine wheel.
790
00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:19.760
One of the most esoteric games that is probably you
791
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:24.840
know as the mostoteric fans is baseball. And and we
792
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:31.599
can see that there is a compass and square set
793
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:36.800
up on the field right. The reason it is base
794
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:42.239
ball is not because of the bases. It's because four
795
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:48.079
is base. Your base set of thinking is four.
796
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:50.079
Ethan.
797
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:53.519
Well, well, there's a really dope article where I get
798
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:57.679
into this on the Occult Research Institute dot org, so
799
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:02.559
check it. But but again, this is just I wouldn't
800
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.280
say it's necessarily perverse in a damned way, but it's
801
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.400
a it's a perverse presentation of highly esoteric ritual.
802
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:12.440
Are all sports like.
803
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.719
Well, you can find different aspects of it, but none
804
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.039
like baseball, none like this.
805
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:22.719
That's well, that's probably one of the oldest ones, right.
806
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:24.960
That's it is.
807
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.639
It is out of England, and you know it's developed
808
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:34.119
over many years into what it is now. It used
809
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:37.280
to be different and it's modified, you know.
810
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:40.000
So you look at the Angels in the outfield that
811
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:46.920
is also literally angels in the outfield. Wow, the movie
812
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.239
title has such an esoteric meaning to it. Maybe I
813
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.639
don't know. Yeah, that's weird.
814
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:58.199
Mans through movies, you know, they they're entertained because they
815
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:00.199
know what the movies and the some of the and
816
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:01.039
within the movies.
817
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.920
Me we over here figuring it out later.
818
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.639
Figure homeboy, Christopher Lloyd is already dead, all right.
819
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:13.360
Field of dreams, dude. Think about all of the guys
820
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.199
who came out of the corn field onto the field
821
00:56:16.800 --> 00:56:20.199
from you know, the outfield. That's that's so field of
822
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:21.280
dreams right there.
823
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:27.440
As the children of the corn right the dude, ha ha, yeah.
824
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:32.360
So baseball is it's the American pastime. But it's the
825
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:40.320
American esoteric pastime certainly, right, and it even has the geometry.
826
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.440
You could look at it symbolically as the ball being
827
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:47.400
the point the line, excuse me, the bat being the line,
828
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:50.280
and you have the plane. And what do they call
829
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:54.679
where the pictures stand on headless the mountains?
830
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:59.000
Where did they come from? It came from the Theosophists.
831
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.679
Mm hmmm, that's right, right, that's because the guy.
832
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.159
The final version of it was basically developed from Theosophist
833
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:13.119
crew and a president of the Theosophy at one time. Yes,
834
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:16.039
although it's much older than that, but not in its
835
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:17.119
current modification.
836
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.639
Do you know what they should bring back Roman gladiators
837
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:27.079
but American gladiators with like real fucking blood sports like
838
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:30.599
the lie used to.
839
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.719
Be a bit more like that, like that you'd get tackled.
840
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.320
Like should be out of you with a bag.
841
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:41.960
They should do that.
842
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.440
Yeah, yeah, right that you get people got like life,
843
00:57:44.639 --> 00:57:46.519
I mean that life death death sentence.
844
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:48.000
Just tell there you go.
845
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.239
They called it based based ball for a reason.
846
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:55.800
I was a beggar bro.
847
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:00.519
So yeah, remember we got the compass and score right there,
848
00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.440
everyone can see right and and we remarked earlier, where
849
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.920
is the origination of some of these symbols, like we
850
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:13.599
see them so widely used, right, like the Freemasons copped
851
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:14.880
onto the compass and square.
852
00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.000
Was it not used before them?
853
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.840
Certainly it was like no, no, no, megalithic site was
854
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.199
built without a compass and square.
855
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.440
Right, So we can we can move on.
856
00:58:26.519 --> 00:58:31.519
But just a powerful anecdotal view of how they'll use
857
00:58:31.639 --> 00:58:38.239
these ideas in an exoteric manner. Here is Pentanjolli, and
858
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:45.480
Pentanjali is a Thoth entity from India, and that is
859
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:51.760
noted to be the creator of yoga and specifically the
860
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:57.639
eight limbs of yoga. And she has a snake excuse me,
861
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.400
he has a snake body, and and I relate him
862
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:06.039
to to that both energy of the Great Teacher, mainly
863
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:09.119
because of actually the eight limbs of Yoga. Nick, we
864
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:10.119
can go to the next one.
865
00:59:10.519 --> 00:59:14.760
That's interesting, you uh kind of linked it to that,
866
00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.639
to that entity. I found him to be more similar
867
00:59:18.679 --> 00:59:22.800
to Vishua Karma. But that's it. That's it.
868
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.679
I think. I think with.
869
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:32.719
Especially the Hindu set of gods, the Hindu pantheon, which
870
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:37.039
is so wide and diverse it's crazy. I think that
871
00:59:37.079 --> 00:59:41.559
there can be attributes of Thoth for instance, in many
872
00:59:41.639 --> 00:59:42.440
different gods.
873
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:43.400
Uh.
874
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.440
In fact, Ganesha I believe has a lot of both
875
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:48.280
qualities too.
876
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.639
That's funny you said that because I had him down.
877
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.880
I have my little list, you know, I have him
878
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.719
down right next to that other name. So now I'll
879
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:57.239
add you the name that you.
880
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:01.719
Just what about the terror? What about the tarot that
881
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.239
looked like the universe card, you know, with the snake
882
01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:09.639
around the outside of it, that had total Tarot vibes
883
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:12.960
for me, at least from the Crowley tarot. And that
884
01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:18.480
whole idea goes back. What's that constellation with the guy
885
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:26.199
who's holding the snake? Ofiucus, right, Ofiucas is the thirteenth
886
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:32.239
constellation that goes along with a lunar calendar. So Ofiucas
887
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.239
is like the thirteenth moon or the thirteenth month, and
888
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.280
it's sort of like above all the rest of the
889
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:42.199
other constellations.
890
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.880
One thing I discovered about the tarot that I haven't
891
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.400
seen others put forth, and I'm kind of surprised that
892
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:54.159
it hasn't been put forth before I noted it. But
893
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.880
there's the fourth suits of the tarot. Of course, there's many,
894
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:01.239
all these fours everywhere right, But the four suits of
895
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:07.639
the tarot actually completely correspond with the four dimensions of geometry.
896
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:12.119
The point for the sword, the line for the staff,
897
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.800
the plane is the coin, and the volume is the cup.
898
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:18.360
I mean, it's literally a.
899
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:25.000
Sacred geometry divination school. So Petanjoli presented the a lens
900
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:29.719
of yoga, which are a whole system of self development. Right,
901
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:36.039
it's not necessarily limited to posture, but also self development
902
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:38.000
in these ideations.
903
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:41.280
And the next one nick is.
904
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:48.760
The obduab and both is associated with well, there's the
905
01:01:48.840 --> 01:01:53.480
eight again, but specifically with this eight, it's actually more
906
01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:58.639
four pair, which little difference, right, But these are these
907
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:05.599
are four couples, right, for for complimentary husband and wife
908
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:11.239
type of couples. And these are the eight elements of
909
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:18.840
or the eight primary gods of ancient Egyptian cosmology, right,
910
01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:26.760
And they are again the four pair ruled by Thoth
911
01:02:27.239 --> 01:02:33.159
got renamed Hermes. Why because the town where Thoth was
912
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:38.440
mainly worshiped was also the town where these this ogdoad
913
01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:41.800
which is also a Greek word. But and I believe
914
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:48.840
they're called the commnu, and so the town was the commnu. Uh,
915
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:54.199
forgive my poor pronunciation, but something something along this line
916
01:02:54.280 --> 01:03:00.280
that was Both town basically got renamed to Hermopolis, Hermies
917
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:07.679
and Hermopolis. The modern modern Hermopolis was was both and
918
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:12.360
Ogdad town basically or really eight town is what it
919
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:19.480
literally meant. The next one is an interesting and again
920
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:21.760
I think it's kind of like one of these teachings
921
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:28.000
that bring together and highlight other teachings from different places.
922
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:33.360
This is attributed the Fuzi And for those who don't Fuzzi,
923
01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.880
don't know Fuzi, just just just wait because I'm gonna
924
01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:42.159
enjoy this. But this is a really the from the
925
01:03:42.199 --> 01:03:50.639
nothingness is the initial polarity. From that is the secondary polarity.
926
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:51.519
And then the eight.
927
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:58.519
Again, the Chinese system has the two, four and eight
928
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:04.639
uh idea to it too, the same with the Egyptian
929
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:09.800
construct is uh. You know, it's got its eight elements.
930
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:14.880
The Chinese divination system has the yin and yang and
931
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.679
secondarily after that the minor and major yin and yang,
932
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.599
and then the Bagua, which means the eight.
933
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.320
And we can go to the next one.
934
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:29.840
Well with the Egyptian system, the Agdad. The Agdot is
935
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.559
a primordial group of gods, so they're like the Titans.
936
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.400
Versus the Olympus, which would be the next generation. So
937
01:04:38.599 --> 01:04:42.159
there's there's kind of a crossover between this sort of
938
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:46.599
separation from heaven and Earth having to do with the
939
01:04:46.639 --> 01:04:51.480
Agdat and also magic being chaos. For all of the
940
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:55.440
Middle Ages, magic was order, but once we got on
941
01:04:55.480 --> 01:04:59.639
into the twentieth century with chaos magic, then magic became
942
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.440
chaos us again. So it almost represents like that shifting
943
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.000
back to a more primordial view of magic than what
944
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:12.920
was existing in the Victorian and Middle Ages era. It's
945
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:13.760
kind of interesting.
946
01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:22.039
Yeah, and it's amazing that they both that the Egyptians
947
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:29.199
and the Chinese had this eight elemental primary aspect, right,
948
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:32.440
quite quite fascinating.
949
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.199
Okay, do you need me to move on?
950
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000
Yeah, yeah, before we move off of Hermes, it's gonna say,
951
01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.079
you see the same thing with the name her Mad
952
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:49.119
in Norse, I think Norse mythology, right, he was a
953
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.679
messenger of the gods. I don't know if there's anything
954
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:55.800
with the with the number four there. Maybe you can
955
01:05:55.840 --> 01:06:02.840
look at that later about that guy.
956
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:10.079
So this is the arc of Raw. They actually found
957
01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.599
a boat at the base of the Great Pyramid, and
958
01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:18.800
it is a replica of the boat that is supposed
959
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:24.599
to take one across the Nile from the land of
960
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:29.840
the living to the land of the dead. And again
961
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:37.159
we see one of the main characters of most well
962
01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:41.400
known of the set of eight, because the Ogdawad, it's
963
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:46.960
really hard to find concrete information on them. But Noot
964
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:52.639
is the primordial waters, that's one of the better known ones,
965
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:59.000
and and we see her carrying the boat. Well, in
966
01:06:59.239 --> 01:07:02.519
the biblical story of Noah, we have Noah and his
967
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:07.159
three sons and their wives, which is eight.
968
01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:08.199
Again.
969
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:10.360
But we look if we look at the boat here,
970
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:14.800
if you kind of you can see clearly the seven.
971
01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:17.119
The beetle, I think is more to do with ra
972
01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:21.199
and the sun above more imposed there you see the
973
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:24.159
four in the front, the three in the back, and
974
01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:25.719
then if you look really.
975
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:27.800
Subtly, there's a snake.
976
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.840
In the boat too, there behind the behind the third
977
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.639
there on the left, So there's actually eight.
978
01:07:35.679 --> 01:07:40.440
There doesn't a scare a beetle like shed it shell.
979
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:46.800
It's it may what what it's most well known for
980
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:54.119
is rolling a ball of manure downhill, and it becomes
981
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:59.679
kind of this symbolism for the sun and immortality by
982
01:08:00.079 --> 01:08:02.679
by way of what it's behavior.
983
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:08.760
Another with Osiris with all with all that symbolism as well.
984
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:14.519
And and Osirius is the agricultural reborn god, right, and
985
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:19.760
there's that rebirth right, I think in a lot I've
986
01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.000
seen this in a lot of this is a cultural thing,
987
01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:29.199
not necessarily philosophical, but it's interesting talk about exoteric perversions
988
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:37.079
of highly esoteric ideas. The zombie movies will inevitably have
989
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:43.520
some agricultural like swamp thing or this and that there's
990
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:46.840
and a ball rolling around. I've seen several times. If
991
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:54.039
you know Egyptian rebirth stories and you watch can be
992
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:58.840
like super cheesy zombie movies. They've actually integrated some of
993
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.520
the symbolism of that. It's entertaining interesting idea.
994
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:06.079
Anyway, Well, I just wanted to throw into it about Knutt.
995
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.199
She was supposed to be the night sky, right, and
996
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.000
so the night sky holding up this plane of heaven
997
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:20.000
almost implies that this is the solar system, right, with
998
01:09:20.119 --> 01:09:22.319
the Sun at the middle of all the all of
999
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:28.680
these seven planets, right, You've got this sort of apep
1000
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:35.640
character which is a massive asteroid in our solar system
1001
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:42.159
as well, that also exists as a serpent of chaos.
1002
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:44.880
And so if you take this as a direct sort
1003
01:09:44.920 --> 01:09:47.680
of metaphor for our solar system. You actually get a
1004
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.039
really good view of it. And if you think about it,
1005
01:09:50.119 --> 01:09:56.920
the beetle could be considered Earth, right Hey, Earth is
1006
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.640
sort of enlivening the sun and making it move and
1007
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:00.359
everything else.
1008
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:07.039
Yeah, yeah, I think you got something. There is so
1009
01:10:07.239 --> 01:10:11.479
is apep the same snake at the bottom of Yigdrasil.
1010
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.800
There's a lot of similarities and there are so many
1011
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:17.119
snakes if you go back to.
1012
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:19.760
Get Yeah, yeah, I figured he may have been, like,
1013
01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:20.640
I don't know.
1014
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:25.680
The orphic egg is surrounded by the snake and then
1015
01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:28.920
he explodes and then everything comes out into form. That's
1016
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:35.079
the very first god protogonos, right, yeah, you.
1017
01:10:35.039 --> 01:10:40.479
Know, I just would have and leave a rush. Crowley
1018
01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.199
made that. He wrote that one, and that's like four
1019
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.840
different times of the day. You will, you'll do a
1020
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:51.600
prayer to the sun and the one that faces north,
1021
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:53.399
which would be which would be Earth?
1022
01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.880
You do you got Kephra the beetle? Did you pray
1023
01:10:58.920 --> 01:10:59.079
it to?
1024
01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:00.680
So?
1025
01:11:00.840 --> 01:11:02.640
Like you said, hedless, you know, even they could be
1026
01:11:02.680 --> 01:11:06.239
associated with Earth. It's even kind of associated with Earth,
1027
01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:06.840
right there.
1028
01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:13.159
No, that's great.
1029
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:18.159
The set of the Adua the eight or four pairs
1030
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:22.239
of Egyptian primary gods. They are snake headed and toad headed.
1031
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:27.119
And if if we could imagine the Nile thousands of
1032
01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:31.479
years ago, it was probably just a you know, so
1033
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:38.199
full of life becoming and going. So this this idea,
1034
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:42.760
I think comes from not that there were snake headed beings,
1035
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.399
that there were, that snakes and toads were in the
1036
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:50.359
creation of itself, the life dependency flow of the waters.
1037
01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:50.680
Right.
1038
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:55.520
But here's here's another the next one, Nick, or.
1039
01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:56.920
Have this and you wants to decent.
1040
01:11:57.840 --> 01:11:59.960
I was just gonna say, maybe it goes back to
1041
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.039
the OM symbol. Right, So if you take the OM
1042
01:12:03.119 --> 01:12:07.800
symbol as the symbolic cosmology that they're working off of,
1043
01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:11.840
like these different levels of consciousness, then all of this
1044
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.640
kind of fits into that level as well. So like
1045
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:20.720
astral projection, you know, thinking about forms and meditation and
1046
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.079
separation from the senses, you kind of get these different
1047
01:12:25.079 --> 01:12:28.760
images that are translated differently but on the same level
1048
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:33.199
in different languages. Right, they're interacting with the same kind
1049
01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:38.880
of forms and translating it based off of the surrounding culture.
1050
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.560
And the It reminds me that the Hindus had the nagas,
1051
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:52.119
who are their ancient snake bodied reptilian teachers, right, and
1052
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:55.039
the next the next one is I.
1053
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:59.920
Think they're called the Nataru. I'm pretty sure and certain ya.
1054
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:03.399
I mean you see him in every culture almost.
1055
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:08.720
And and almost every esoteric cosmological thing, there's a there's
1056
01:13:08.760 --> 01:13:13.359
a snake, sometimes taking taking knowledge, sometimes giving it.
1057
01:13:13.720 --> 01:13:16.159
I did, I did want to point out this boat
1058
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:19.720
with the sun that the beetle is holding up looks
1059
01:13:20.079 --> 01:13:23.960
just like the almost crescent moon thing at the top
1060
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.359
of the ome with the sun above it as well. Mm. Yeah,
1061
01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:31.239
especially when you go back on the left.
1062
01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:34.760
Nick, Oh, you know it's interesting even that prairie I mentioned.
1063
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:36.439
You're praying to the barge in the sky.
1064
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:41.880
Oh, and of course the dot the circle right there,
1065
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:47.239
there's your there's your point related to the symbol.
1066
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:50.279
Nick, does that remind you of an eye in any way?
1067
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:57.439
Oh? I don't know this one. No. Never, that's the pilot.
1068
01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:02.199
There is so much content just by using the om symbol,
1069
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.520
breaking it down into its symbolic meaning, and then looking
1070
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:09.199
at everything around it, because it's almost like that's the
1071
01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.239
seed and all of this stuff is the folies that
1072
01:14:12.319 --> 01:14:13.079
grew out of it.
1073
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:21.199
Yeah, fascinating.
1074
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:29.039
The way that the eaching goes is very much in
1075
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.600
like that yin Yang process that was just described. That
1076
01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:40.239
there's the wouji, the nothingness, and then the main polarity,
1077
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:43.079
and so on and so forth until they get to
1078
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.239
the eight elements, and the eight elements are multiplied eight
1079
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:53.560
times eight, and then you have your sixty four divination
1080
01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:58.399
types of the each in right, which is really interesting.
1081
01:14:58.479 --> 01:14:59.239
Here we have.
1082
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:06.199
Fuzi and his counterpart nw Wa, talk about sixty four.
1083
01:15:06.319 --> 01:15:09.760
If you see these circles here, both of them have
1084
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:14.159
sixty four parts. This is from about seven hundred a
1085
01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:17.800
d from the Tang dynasty. And look what they have
1086
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:22.399
in their hands, the compass and square. Remember this is
1087
01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:32.319
from China. So we have this snake symbolism, their snake
1088
01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:38.399
bodied symbolism, and the two counterparts. So new Wa rather
1089
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:43.000
Fuzi and his feminine counterpart new Wah are very much
1090
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:50.119
the folth energy of the Daoists. And there's various constellations
1091
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:56.279
on the side here. It's a very intricate image.
1092
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.600
I don't know, guys, it kind of feels Canaanite Phoenatian
1093
01:15:59.640 --> 01:15:59.800
to me.
1094
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:02.600
It could be I don't know.
1095
01:16:02.920 --> 01:16:08.279
I don't know exactly, you know where which came first,
1096
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:10.119
Right right along.
1097
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.199
That silk road. You've got these ideas starting to spread
1098
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:17.319
out from the Mesopotamian area. And now you're talking about
1099
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:23.000
these snake bodied people, which comes directly from Greek mythology.
1100
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:25.640
When you're talking about eric Tonius who was the first
1101
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:30.439
king of Athens, right, he had a snake body and
1102
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.199
all the rest of these snake bodied things come sort
1103
01:16:33.199 --> 01:16:36.560
of through this Greco Roman influence. If you think about
1104
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.640
mythology as a way of like colonizing other people through ideas,
1105
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:44.680
you can kind of see how this religion thing works.
1106
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.840
It's like you provide a compelling image and then people
1107
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:48.479
come to you.
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01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:53.199
Yeah, it's like that snake bitch from fucking Golden Chong.
1109
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:59.680
Naugas Nagas are in that tradition as well. It's the
1110
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.640
pro to into European influence.
1111
01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:10.239
Yeah, it's hard to say who influenced too because of
1112
01:17:10.319 --> 01:17:12.079
the but you may be you may be right. I
1113
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:14.279
don't mean to refee you have this. I don't. I
1114
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:15.359
just don't know.
1115
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.520
It's even interesting with it too, though, you know how
1116
01:17:18.560 --> 01:17:22.119
you would have like Hermes, you know, or well I
1117
01:17:22.159 --> 01:17:26.039
would still associate to with mercury on the sphere with
1118
01:17:26.119 --> 01:17:27.760
the eight you know, or with the on.
1119
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:29.960
The eighth sphere on the Tree of Life. You do
1120
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:31.760
get to hermaphrodite there as well.
1121
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:34.199
Yeah, so like and I mean it I almost you know,
1122
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:37.039
in the DNA staff goes along with them, so I
1123
01:17:37.039 --> 01:17:43.560
mean I even kind of see all lot here yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1124
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:51.119
There is in in their origination story. I would say
1125
01:17:51.119 --> 01:17:55.880
that Fuzi is the third created. So there's so there's
1126
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:58.720
Pangu and and he gives birth.
1127
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.279
Pengu is the Earth.
1128
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:05.000
He dies and becomes the Earth, very similar to uh
1129
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:08.800
Odin's cosmology, I believe before before Odin.
1130
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.840
He's called the Chinese Prometheus.
1131
01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:17.720
Wow, so he'd breathe, you know, like that bringer of knowledge.
1132
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:21.600
He erupts from from an egg and his backbone becomes
1133
01:18:21.720 --> 01:18:26.119
these massive mountains. And Pangu also bears the torch that
1134
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:30.800
he gave to mankind, and so he's also a giant.
1135
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:37.479
And they called the Chinese Prometheus. Yeah, and we see
1136
01:18:38.720 --> 01:18:40.800
that there's the compass in square.
1137
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:43.920
It's a bit more refined of of of a set
1138
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:50.520
of tools. Pegu had the hammer and chisel. So so
1139
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:53.760
that's the the starting point of obtaining things is the
1140
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:54.199
hammer and.
1141
01:18:54.239 --> 01:18:59.640
Chisel and Beatheus was hammered to the Caucasus mountains.
1142
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:00.680
Wow.
1143
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:07.119
Uh and uh, so pengu gave birth. When he died,
1144
01:19:07.199 --> 01:19:11.239
he became the earth, but he gave birth to the
1145
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:15.439
mother of Fuzi and Newah. So in a sense in
1146
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:20.439
that story, Fuzi is the third born, the thrice great
1147
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:21.439
thrice born.
1148
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:25.399
Yeah. Yeah, so.
1149
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:31.439
I just wanted to say, yeah, it's really interesting that
1150
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.479
there's all these thoth like teacher like entities and the snake,
1151
01:19:37.199 --> 01:19:39.760
the snake body and the sacred geometry.
1152
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:41.840
It's all it's all there.
1153
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:46.600
Right, so uh, to wrap things up, I wanted to
1154
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:55.279
go into Oedipus right and talk about Taro nick the
1155
01:19:55.279 --> 01:20:00.359
the origination of Odipus as he's thrown out by his
1156
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:04.880
dad because he gets his dad gets the prophecy that
1157
01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:09.000
his son is going to kill him, so he hangs
1158
01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:14.000
him by his feet on a tree, and he's he's
1159
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:20.399
the hanged man from like infancy. So pretty pretty interesting
1160
01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:24.680
symbolism there. And again you have a tree and and
1161
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:33.359
uh he's rescued by a farmer another another another king
1162
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:39.640
nearby anyway, and his whole life is kind of screwed up.
1163
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:44.920
But we accept the answer to him, or the answer
1164
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:49.039
of his to the riddle of the Sphinx, but he
1165
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:50.319
gets everything else wrong.
1166
01:20:51.199 --> 01:20:54.199
That's the that's the one thing that he becomes a
1167
01:20:54.239 --> 01:20:56.920
hero for is because of his answer to the riddle
1168
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.279
of this fate. And that's really revealing about this hanged
1169
01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:05.479
man influence is because he's like the ultimate mortal character,
1170
01:21:05.800 --> 01:21:10.039
the ultimate flawed or fallen character, all the rest of them.
1171
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.039
Yep.
1172
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:17.159
So the riddle of the Sphinx is from the play
1173
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:21.800
of Otipus Oedipus. However you say it the next one,
1174
01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:25.640
nick I got the riddle there that everyone can read.
1175
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.479
What walks on four legs in the morning, two legs
1176
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.079
at noon, and three legs in the evening. Most people
1177
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:40.479
know that the answer is man or humans rather to
1178
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:48.199
be more politically correct, the staff of old age being
1179
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:50.880
the third leg in the evening. But here we see
1180
01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:56.720
Otopus and he's got a staff, and I would say
1181
01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:04.239
that the answer actually is the Master, the thrice Great
1182
01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:09.359
walks on three legs, right, And and we see here
1183
01:22:09.399 --> 01:22:16.239
otis himself himself as the staff there. And there's a
1184
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:20.560
second in this play again we're talking about when when
1185
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:26.159
Otopus goes to defeat the Sphinx. I believe he was
1186
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.279
even in the play was in Egypt, but I'm not
1187
01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:31.439
one hundred percent sure he might have been elsewhere. But
1188
01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:39.760
the Sphinx and Cherubim widely celebrated symbol of you know,
1189
01:22:39.920 --> 01:22:45.079
a coming to get you character. There's known to be
1190
01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:50.760
a second riddle of the Sphinx and a little bit
1191
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:54.960
lesser known. So I would just say that that with that,
1192
01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:57.520
it's not the old person, it's.
1193
01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:58.199
The master.
1194
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:10.359
Forehead two d that yeah, tetramorph tetramorphalypse, right, got a
1195
01:23:10.399 --> 01:23:10.680
lot of.
1196
01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:17.479
Stuff, and four is a super powerful number in all
1197
01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:22.880
of Asian countries. Sometimes it's auspicious and lucky. Other times
1198
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:26.760
it's not even on the elevator buttons right, like the
1199
01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:30.800
like flour thirteen in the West. And sometimes they won't
1200
01:23:30.800 --> 01:23:34.359
have thirteen either. No four, no thirteen a negative one
1201
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:40.399
and then they start. So the next one is the
1202
01:23:40.439 --> 01:23:47.520
second riddle of the Sphinx, and it just beckons the
1203
01:23:47.640 --> 01:23:52.279
yin yang concept. Right, there are two sisters. One gives
1204
01:23:52.319 --> 01:23:56.439
birth to the other and she in turn gives birth
1205
01:23:56.520 --> 01:23:57.920
to the first.
1206
01:23:58.479 --> 01:23:59.840
Who are the two sisters?
1207
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.319
And I mean it's just just in that collaboration it
1208
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.600
just you see the yin and yang. The answer is
1209
01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:12.600
is day and night right, And day and night also
1210
01:24:13.079 --> 01:24:19.520
has a or rather one day has four aspects, just
1211
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:23.720
like a year. There's day and night in the first polarity,
1212
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:28.880
and there's dawn and dusk in in the second polarity.
1213
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:37.399
So and now I'm gonna get into something that I
1214
01:24:37.439 --> 01:24:42.359
have not studied entirely. But it is so profound in
1215
01:24:42.439 --> 01:24:49.720
bringing together these four aspects and lessons of four that
1216
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:55.439
I think it's worth sharing it. And and Elephus Levie
1217
01:24:56.079 --> 01:25:01.880
is uh a foundational occultists, and he came up with
1218
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:09.399
the idea about the powers of the sphinx. And so
1219
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:14.079
certainly the idea with the Egyptians was not getting old
1220
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:19.479
and carrying a staff. It was being immortal and holding
1221
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:23.680
a branch of the tree of life. And that's really
1222
01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:27.600
what the staff symbolizes. It's not your you're old, you
1223
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.119
need a stick. No, it's the reason why the kings
1224
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:36.119
and the priests and the philosophers, Moses to Tahoudi to whoever,
1225
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.199
they all had a staff because it is the branch
1226
01:25:40.359 --> 01:25:41.680
of the tree of life.
1227
01:25:41.680 --> 01:25:44.840
That they get to hold. Because they're empowered individuals.
1228
01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:50.760
So here's a set of the four idea related to
1229
01:25:50.840 --> 01:25:55.840
these four aspects of the sphinx, which is nick. You
1230
01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:58.840
might have heard of these in Thalima. I heard that
1231
01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:01.119
this is like a Thalamic things.
1232
01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.720
Well, yeah, I mean it kind of looks like.
1233
01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.520
Yeah, I mean, it also kind of goes along with
1234
01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:11.600
the will to keep silent.
1235
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:13.520
Kind of goes along with ter.
1236
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:18.039
Right, right, it's all right there, Uh.
1237
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:22.039
I think that the first polarity there to know and
1238
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:26.800
to will. I saw this meme the other day, like
1239
01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:30.800
people would rather argue about Crowley than learn about him. Ye,
1240
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:37.520
people would rather say the expression do as thatout will
1241
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:44.279
without even knowing anything. You have to know first, otherwise
1242
01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:48.880
it'll be horrible if you enact your will and you're
1243
01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:54.640
an ignorant, materialistic hollow you know, dunt the dunt like
1244
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.760
we see so many today. That's no good. The first
1245
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:04.359
aspect to do that will is to know. So Elvis
1246
01:27:04.439 --> 01:27:08.239
Levi came up with this idea illustrated in the next one.
1247
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:16.039
All right, or or maybe maybe the next one or
1248
01:27:16.279 --> 01:27:17.680
I forget where I'm at, but.
1249
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:19.800
Yeah, here here, here, it is right.
1250
01:27:20.159 --> 01:27:24.880
Everything is possible to him who wills only what is true.
1251
01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:30.520
Rest in Nature study know then dare dare to will
1252
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:36.800
dare to act and be silent. And there's that fourth
1253
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:43.359
aspect of silence again, and and it's it's very much
1254
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:47.720
like you don't want to be braggadocio. Also, you don't
1255
01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:51.479
necessarily want to let people know your practice because they
1256
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.039
want they might want to chop it down. You know,
1257
01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:57.239
if you don't let people know that you're you're not
1258
01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:01.000
doing things harm harmful. I'm not saying to be clandestine
1259
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:05.720
and sneaky, just saying like sometimes you know, silence is
1260
01:28:06.600 --> 01:28:11.079
just it's not sneaky, it's just showing by doing.
1261
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:17.680
And were big time into the espionage racket.
1262
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.760
That's true too. There's there's the exoteric interpretation of these
1263
01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:26.560
esoteric ideas. Good point as absolutely.
1264
01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:29.840
I mean, yeah, Crowley was my six agent, was he not?
1265
01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:35.159
I think he was? And I five, I definitely think
1266
01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:35.960
he was intelligence.
1267
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:39.680
Yeah yeah, whatever kind of intelligence I mean I think.
1268
01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:46.079
I mean the same thing with fucking uh what's his name?
1269
01:28:46.840 --> 01:28:53.600
Quino d John d Right, he was the original seven
1270
01:28:53.760 --> 01:29:01.079
below seven Yeah, man, yeah, sucking each other out.
1271
01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:04.199
Dou below seven is two bolcane.
1272
01:29:05.399 --> 01:29:09.560
Wow, every day, thank you?
1273
01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:12.960
Heavin to look at the.
1274
01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:21.439
So the next one is just another elaboration of this
1275
01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:30.279
UH four mode of magic. If you will that Elphus
1276
01:29:30.359 --> 01:29:33.640
Levi put forth. To learn how to will is to
1277
01:29:33.720 --> 01:29:39.039
learn how to exercise dominion. But but not this, what's
1278
01:29:39.079 --> 01:29:41.720
the true power dominion of self?
1279
01:29:42.119 --> 01:29:42.319
Right?
1280
01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:46.760
But but that that could be interpreted different ways, and
1281
01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:48.520
and you know, exerted different ways.
1282
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.039
But to be able to exert.
1283
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:56.119
Will power you must first know. For will power applied
1284
01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.359
to folly is madness.
1285
01:29:57.920 --> 01:29:58.760
Death and hell.
1286
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:04.439
So there it is, right the whole what Crowley is
1287
01:30:04.520 --> 01:30:06.800
best known for. Do as that will, and people will
1288
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:09.720
just say that like that gives them some kind.
1289
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:13.119
Of right to do as that will.
1290
01:30:13.159 --> 01:30:21.279
Well, you gotta know first, You must know first. So
1291
01:30:21.359 --> 01:30:23.319
the next one I wanted to point out Nick, this
1292
01:30:23.399 --> 01:30:29.840
is the eye of Horus, and it goes along with
1293
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:35.439
the eaching process. Right, it's got up to the one
1294
01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:39.920
sixty four. It goes the other way, right, the eaching
1295
01:30:40.039 --> 01:30:44.399
goes to sixty fourth parts. This goes to one sixty fourth.
1296
01:30:45.039 --> 01:30:51.159
And this is heckat in an exoteric understanding. It is
1297
01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:54.560
a measurement system of grain in ancient Egypt. And this
1298
01:30:54.760 --> 01:31:01.039
was by these fractions. Is how they you know, measure
1299
01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:03.199
their grain and also, you know.
1300
01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:04.880
I just want to say this in there real quick,
1301
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:07.199
if you really think about it, your your the accordia
1302
01:31:07.319 --> 01:31:12.640
is basically like almost like grainy, Like it's really interesting.
1303
01:31:12.199 --> 01:31:15.479
Right, And I was going to say brain and grain, right,
1304
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:19.039
because this it's the way to measure the grain, and
1305
01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:23.680
it's also the way to measure the brain, uh as
1306
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:28.840
as they do here, the smell being one half of
1307
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:33.359
the immediate perception value, as they put forth, which which
1308
01:31:33.399 --> 01:31:38.560
I think we unknowingly like pheromones and so forth. These
1309
01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:43.359
are really influential things going on and we don't even
1310
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:48.439
really know, you know, that we're smelling them sometimes it's
1311
01:31:48.479 --> 01:31:50.760
not like a conscious smell.
1312
01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:55.399
I had a weird evolutionary thought real quick, what if
1313
01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.720
how we see the world influences how our brains are
1314
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:05.600
sh aped, so different species of animals see the world differently,
1315
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:09.359
and in doing so, it's influencing the shape of the
1316
01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:11.880
brain instead of vice versa.
1317
01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:13.720
Yeah.
1318
01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:17.600
Absolutely, And even if you were to be a like
1319
01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:21.279
a feral human and you end up with dogs, your
1320
01:32:21.399 --> 01:32:25.159
sense of smell is going to be dumb heightened just
1321
01:32:25.199 --> 01:32:28.520
because you're watching them doing it and you start doing it,
1322
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:31.439
You're you're just activating by practicing.
1323
01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:33.640
Right, So I think if.
1324
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Evolution requires a shifting of consciousness, sure, I.
1325
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:44.159
Don't think it's a what if. I think it is
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01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:44.920
what is right?
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Right?
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01:32:47.039 --> 01:32:50.079
That was now I was done with the images, Nick,
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01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:53.880
but the four it just is a base way to
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01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:58.920
perceive things and also a base way to develop.
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01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:00.199
And Uh.
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01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:03.319
One thing I forgot to mention is that the yin
1333
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:08.239
yang symbol is actually the taiji and it means the
1334
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:12.239
grand ultimate polarity. And so when people practice what we
1335
01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:17.079
say tai chi, it's not tai chi, it's taiji. So
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01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.840
they're practicing this self development system.
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01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:21.319
Right.
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01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:26.039
So that's just another exoteric and esoteric relationship.
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01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.000
I love it.
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01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.039
Oh you know what I wanted to pull up before?
1341
01:33:34.279 --> 01:33:34.680
Damn it.
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01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:37.079
I think I let me see if I have it
1343
01:33:37.680 --> 01:33:40.840
just before when we talk about four's and like hates
1344
01:33:40.920 --> 01:33:45.039
and stuff, and again there's these these two planetary sigils
1345
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:47.359
have to do with the mercury and Jupiter, I mean
1346
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:50.880
in Jupiter would be considered a higher arc of mercury anyway,
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01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:51.640
kind of.
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01:33:53.079 --> 01:33:53.439
Uh.
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01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:56.920
And you even have like the whole four you don't
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01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:05.039
go up before again that is for Jupiter and I
1351
01:34:05.079 --> 01:34:07.399
kind of just looked like even other ship you saw before.
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01:34:08.279 --> 01:34:09.399
And then I do have.
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01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.479
Harmonies was the Angel of Zeus or Jupiter?
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01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:22.520
And then uh, this one is interesting, the one for Mercury,
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01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.399
which would go with the eighth sphere. You do have
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01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:30.239
like a bunch of like four again four squares, four circles.
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01:34:31.479 --> 01:34:33.880
That was seeing the four repeated.
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01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:41.840
Still yeah, it's deep symbol.
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01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:49.039
Oh yeah, man, I learned something new every time I
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01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.319
come on this show, So that's great.
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01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:57.680
Normally I do too great information, Ethan, that was great.
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01:34:57.760 --> 01:35:00.880
That was uh yeah, I gotta.
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01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:05.600
Thanks for thanks for listening to everyone. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.
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01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:10.760
I think the fourth Initiation really has some inspirational ideas
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01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:16.199
and insights towards self development on our own, not necessarily
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01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:20.439
without the guides. It's not saying to remove anything you
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01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:22.960
might have learned before, but it's more just kind of
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01:35:22.960 --> 01:35:26.640
empowering for our own individuation.
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01:35:28.920 --> 01:35:30.199
Fourth dimensional thinking.
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01:35:34.760 --> 01:35:37.479
Uh, anybody have any questions anything?
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01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:39.199
I was just gonna say, I ain't get to get
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01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.039
to none of my times. Man, you're lucky, wrong and.
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01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:43.479
We don't have to have that discussion.
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01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:47.039
No, do you have any Yeah, it was anything? Was
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01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:48.920
anything that you kind of wanted to ask to bring up.
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01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:53.279
It's not any things specific that I can ask. I
1377
01:35:53.359 --> 01:35:54.720
just had, you know, I just like some of the
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01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.840
stuff that he talked about. You know, you know, the
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01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.520
four meaning complete and stuff like that plays a lot
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01:35:59.520 --> 01:36:03.600
of parts in Masonic rituals and ceremonies and stuff like that.
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01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:06.680
So yeah, I appreciate it. I'm going to get more books.
1382
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:08.520
I've already read two of his books already.
1383
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:11.680
So and he said the fourth Initiation is the fourth one,
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01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:13.800
of course, and uh there's other ones, so I have
1385
01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:16.279
to go back and get the other ones, read those,
1386
01:36:16.640 --> 01:36:18.680
then come back to this one and read this again
1387
01:36:18.840 --> 01:36:21.960
just to get more of a basic understanding.
1388
01:36:22.039 --> 01:36:24.319
So yeah, I enjoyed the enjoy his work. I mean
1389
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:25.720
I've read his books like that.
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01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:27.600
As soon as he sent them to me or told
1391
01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:30.279
me they were on Amazon, Kendle, I was like.
1392
01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:31.479
Oh yeah, let me go get there. And I already
1393
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:32.319
have another one on there.
1394
01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:33.920
I just got It's gonna be about another two or
1395
01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:36.159
three weeks before I read them. So yeah, anybody that's
1396
01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:41.199
interested in you know, either in meditation or numeraal numbers
1397
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.439
or numbers in period and understanding, you know, the consciousness
1398
01:36:44.479 --> 01:36:45.600
and the person within you.
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01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:48.279
I guarantee you you learn a lot from reading these books.
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01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:50.279
Thanks, thank you.
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01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:56.560
Definitely hell Us of Jules, did you uh want to
1402
01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.119
ask her anything.
1403
01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:01.399
Or what I was I was gonna say, we were
1404
01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:07.520
looking into uh Lithuanian paganism because uh Lithuanian and so
1405
01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:12.479
uh there's this one symbol of Remova which is like
1406
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:18.039
the pagan h equivalent of their native religion, right and
1407
01:37:18.159 --> 01:37:21.680
uh it has four snakes on the on the seal,
1408
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.840
and it's like that's perfect, Like you're all about the
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01:37:24.920 --> 01:37:26.960
four and there's the four right there.
1410
01:37:27.439 --> 01:37:30.119
So I thought that was kind of interesting, not as
1411
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:30.920
bad as symbol.
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01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:39.319
Yeah, And it's really knowing the four aspects of things
1413
01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:42.960
or even imagining that it might be there. When I
1414
01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:49.319
look at symbols, and when I'm looking at even symbological stories,
1415
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.520
I find it really helps to decipher things, like with
1416
01:37:55.680 --> 01:38:00.760
the three two two idea, not necessarily verified, not necessarily
1417
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:03.079
entirely the truth, it's a possibility.
1418
01:38:03.840 --> 01:38:08.800
And also with the uh the riddle of the Sphinx.
1419
01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:12.279
It may not be that what I'm saying that there
1420
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.720
is a fourth aspect, but but as soon as I
1421
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:20.199
saw that there's the threefold idea. It just kind of
1422
01:38:20.239 --> 01:38:22.319
made me think, well, we're there's a there's a fourth
1423
01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:27.279
answer here, So I think it does help interpret different
1424
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:29.359
different things.
1425
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.960
Definitely, Oh, Ethan, thank you very much.
1426
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:34.119
Man.
1427
01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:36.359
I'm really really happy you came back on it. Tod.
1428
01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:41.119
That definitely definitely, definitely definitely ten times better than last time.
1429
01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:44.640
That's because there was other people here, so oh yeah, man,
1430
01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:45.680
thank you. I appreciate that.
1431
01:38:46.760 --> 01:38:48.199
I appreciate you so much.
1432
01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:52.560
Oh yeah, uh yes, I guess we could just wrap
1433
01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:55.960
it up then, well let everybody like this shows and
1434
01:38:55.960 --> 01:38:57.039
promote this stuff again.
1435
01:38:57.920 --> 01:38:59.840
Headless, what is going on over there? Man?
1436
01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:04.039
That was a great episode. It felt like a whole
1437
01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:06.760
initiation all on its own. So thank you so much.
1438
01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:07.159
Ethan.
1439
01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:14.520
You can email me your occult stories at the Headless
1440
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:17.760
giinat gmail dot com and we will read those on Thursdays,
1441
01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:19.039
so check it out. Thank you.
1442
01:39:19.800 --> 01:39:24.920
Oh yeah, Jules.
1443
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:28.760
Nick again, thanks for having me on. Great presentation. Like
1444
01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:30.479
I said, I'm going to have to try to remember
1445
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:34.640
to get your book sooner than later, Headless Tyrone. It's
1446
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:38.920
always good hanging out with you guys, hearing what you'all
1447
01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:41.359
have to say. These shows are a lot of fun.
1448
01:39:41.479 --> 01:39:41.880
Guys.
1449
01:39:42.279 --> 01:39:45.720
You can find me on Twitter, Great pield Pod, Instagram,
1450
01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:50.039
Great Pueld Underscore Podcast. I'm on Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
1451
01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:54.359
all that good stuff. I'm on Locals and Patreon because
1452
01:39:54.399 --> 01:39:58.760
some people don't like Patreon or their band from Patreon
1453
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:01.960
or whatever, So you can support me on Locals and
1454
01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:05.279
I post all the streams over there. You get basically
1455
01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:09.600
like your own show on Patreon. There's it's all Patreon
1456
01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:16.520
exclusive content. That's so terry book review. We do watch parties.
1457
01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.119
We do a lot of cool stuff. I might start
1458
01:40:18.159 --> 01:40:20.760
having guests on Patreon shows and doing them on there
1459
01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.159
a couple of weeks before I drop them. We do
1460
01:40:23.239 --> 01:40:27.039
the elohem etymologies on there before we drop them. So yeah,
1461
01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:30.600
go check me out there. Patreon dot com, slash Grateful
1462
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:38.079
podcast and uh yeah, Sunday Chaos This Sunday Night, our
1463
01:40:38.359 --> 01:40:43.800
degenerate show that we do, new show or whatever it is.
1464
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.359
We just me and the boys get together, hang out, y'all.
1465
01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:48.800
You take it over the Tower Gang slot.
1466
01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:55.439
Well yeah, it's the t MO Tower Gang. Yeah, Tunnel Gang.
1467
01:40:57.319 --> 01:41:01.119
But we're not Jews. Sorry, sorry, that's a bad joke.
1468
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:07.000
Get wait anyway, but yeah, y'all check us out tomorrow.
1469
01:41:08.319 --> 01:41:10.479
I guess we'll be doing we we got a couple
1470
01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:12.560
of shows tomorrow, right, you'll you'll see me on one
1471
01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:12.880
of them.
1472
01:41:12.920 --> 01:41:14.319
Oh yeah, y on.
1473
01:41:14.199 --> 01:41:16.640
The later show perhaps.
1474
01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:19.640
Yeah, depending on it if you can, man, Yeah for sure.
1475
01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:23.840
Yeah, this is great and uh, I appreciate you making
1476
01:41:23.840 --> 01:41:25.359
me a part of this, Nick Hell.
1477
01:41:25.319 --> 01:41:30.640
Yeah, of course definitely show and uh oh before we
1478
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:33.840
get to uh Tyrone and Ethan to let them plug
1479
01:41:33.880 --> 01:41:35.840
the plug the stuff, I do want to jump in
1480
01:41:36.039 --> 01:41:37.319
because people.
1481
01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:40.000
Are player starting to like shut it off regardless, but
1482
01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:41.439
I forgot to mention it in the beginning.
1483
01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:45.520
There is events uh that the cult regions will have
1484
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.720
boots at uh Tyrone and myself will be at a
1485
01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:49.239
bunch of them.
1486
01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:51.079
Tyrone will be out a bunch of them with me
1487
01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:54.159
and then maybe maybe even other people.
1488
01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:57.760
But I did want to plug some of the dates
1489
01:41:57.800 --> 01:41:59.800
and at least like where they're supposed to be at,
1490
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:03.760
So September twenty sixth to twenty seventh in mount Airy, Georgia.
1491
01:42:03.880 --> 01:42:06.960
October fourth, uh, Franklin, North Carolina.
1492
01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:09.479
That's like a big Foot thing that those both there Bigfoot,
1493
01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:12.600
but they'll have the like weird other weird stuff there.
1494
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:13.720
Uh.
1495
01:42:13.760 --> 01:42:18.279
Then there's Charlie's Beyond Believe October eighteenth, and Brook from
1496
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:21.039
uh the cole Rejects but Dark Florida Park podcast. She
1497
01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:24.119
is actually speaking at the event, and she's got a
1498
01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:27.680
booth next to us. We grabbed the booth number thirty
1499
01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:30.920
three and she got booth thirty two. Fuck it, it's
1500
01:42:30.920 --> 01:42:32.520
time may Soundic Lodge. You gotta do it right.
1501
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:36.439
Check check that place out. Uh.
1502
01:42:36.560 --> 01:42:39.560
Yeah, Charlie's Beyond Belief and that would be in Fort Myers, Florida.
1503
01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.319
So even if we want to come down and talk
1504
01:42:42.399 --> 01:42:44.439
some shit and see if I want to catch some checks,
1505
01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:48.680
you can come check me out down that October twenty fifth,
1506
01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:52.560
twenty sixth. You were guy the UFO Comic Con in Greenville,
1507
01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:58.079
South Carolina. Uh, November twenty second, UFO Comic Con, Moresville,
1508
01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:03.520
North Carolina. And then December fifth and sixth some art
1509
01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:06.319
thing with There will be authors, artists and filmmakers and
1510
01:43:06.399 --> 01:43:10.960
weird stuff mount Airy, Georgia. So come check it out
1511
01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.439
if you can. Most of those events too, are like
1512
01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:17.840
ten dollars apiece. So even if you just want to
1513
01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:20.000
like fucking if you're around in the area and just
1514
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:22.880
meet up with us and talk shit. Just ten bucks,
1515
01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:25.079
So yeah, come hang out. We'll have a booth and
1516
01:43:25.159 --> 01:43:28.520
we'll have some wild shit setup too as well. All right,
1517
01:43:28.600 --> 01:43:30.840
I'm done talking, I'll shut up, Tyrone.
1518
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:31.520
Go ahead, sir.
1519
01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:34.239
Yeah, this was a good show.
1520
01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:37.000
But you already know that Ethan, you bring great material
1521
01:43:37.079 --> 01:43:40.079
whenever you speak so or write a book, So either
1522
01:43:40.119 --> 01:43:42.720
way that goes, you know how that goes. Everything you
1523
01:43:42.720 --> 01:43:45.680
can find on me is on my website, Rebirth at
1524
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:48.119
the word dot com. You can find my rumbo, my
1525
01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:52.159
Twitter accounts, my Facebook accounts, my LinkedIn and stuff like that.
1526
01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:55.279
So yeah, just be on the lookout for my documentary.
1527
01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:57.880
Well it's not so called like a documentary type what
1528
01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:00.960
you see on television, but it's not gonna documentary of
1529
01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:03.520
all the places that I'm visiting around the Americas and
1530
01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:05.399
other places, so you get a more feel of it
1531
01:44:05.399 --> 01:44:06.319
because a lot of people.
1532
01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:08.960
Are going to AI and I'm trying to not do that.
1533
01:44:09.039 --> 01:44:11.720
I want to bring real, authentic material to the people.
1534
01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:13.199
So yeah, check that out.
1535
01:44:14.079 --> 01:44:15.880
Hell yeah, thank you very much, sir.
1536
01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.880
And last but not least, the guests of the hour
1537
01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:22.479
and a half, almost two hours, e'sn in to go,
1538
01:44:22.680 --> 01:44:26.000
thank you again very much, sir for coming on, and.
1539
01:44:25.720 --> 01:44:28.520
No, thank you Nick for putting together all the awesome
1540
01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:31.800
shows Headless Jules Tyrone, I thank you so much for
1541
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:35.439
your friendship and support that that was really fun.
1542
01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:37.439
Yeah.
1543
01:44:37.479 --> 01:44:43.760
I'm on all the usual social media YouTube, Twitter, Facebook,
1544
01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.600
and so on, and I can be found easily, and
1545
01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.399
my book is on Amazon can be found easy to
1546
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:53.279
and thank you everyone for the support. I was trying
1547
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.439
to look at the chat and not laugh too much,
1548
01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:56.119
So thanks you.
1549
01:44:56.359 --> 01:45:00.600
For the grown episode on my show. You Gotta Anytime
1550
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:02.079
one gray Field YouTube tire.
1551
01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:04.119
Ethan's got a lot to say. Actually, if you look.
1552
01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:09.960
Much stuff I got, I got PowerPoint presentations ready, so
1553
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:11.000
I'm ready anytime.
1554
01:45:11.520 --> 01:45:12.319
Oh yeah for real.
1555
01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:17.239
Every Tuesday thirty Central already dead. Uh me, Well, I'm
1556
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:21.439
the producer. I run behind the scenes. But Josey Gallison
1557
01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.800
and Austin Picard, uh you can catch it on their
1558
01:45:24.880 --> 01:45:28.199
channels or mine. I stream it to my channel too.
1559
01:45:28.239 --> 01:45:33.199
So Tuesday did I say Thursday? I meant Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, tuesdays?
1560
01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:33.560
Fuck me?
1561
01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:35.600
Is that why you're not there?
1562
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:42.279
Sometimes ten hours a day? He's like, I'm there on Thursday?
1563
01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:50.640
Like wait, yeah, yeah, guys, great show tonight. Hell here
1564
01:45:50.720 --> 01:45:52.479
show tonight fellas.
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Definitely, definitely, No, that was a great, great show. Ethan again,
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I really for me, I did you. I don't know
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if you added all this stuff. It just seemed like
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it was it was different than the last time, maybe
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because there was different people here. But that was really
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really great stuff man, and the chat was awesome, so I.
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Tried really trying to make it a little different.
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But oh yeah, I appreciate it, man.
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But uh yeah, that is the end of another reculled
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Rejects And thanks again for everybody in the chat. That's
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what's up. Thank you all for making it tonight. And
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I know it's a little bit later, but I appreciate it.
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And until the next one, everybody be well.
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Later