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00:01:01.280Ladies and gentlemen and children of all ages, welcome back to the fourth quarter with Doug and Ted.
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00:01:04.719Welcome back, welcome back, Ted, welcome back.
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00:01:06.239Here we go, here we go.
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00:01:16.319Today's going to be a little different format or different topics, but it is going to be centered around health, but health in a different area of our lives, which Ted will elaborate on in a little bit.
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00:01:22.879But before we get into that, Ted, before I kick it on over to you, punt the ball over to you, whatever you want to say, pass, pitch, whatever.
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00:01:37.840Let me just recap Joe's episode from last week about just weight bearing, lifting, and our bones, bone density, and ensuring that we're working on strength at this season of our life, the importance of it.
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00:01:40.159And man, it was just packed.
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00:01:47.680Man, we told, and you know, Ted, we told Joe, don't go too deep into weeds, Joe.
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00:01:52.879But it was it was good stuff, though.
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00:01:55.280I mean, I, you know, I love I live for that kind of stuff.
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00:02:05.120And I've I've had a few people, I had a few people that I know from his gym in Hillsburg send me a text and said, Wow, what an awesome episode.
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00:02:08.159You guys are, you know, the fourth quarter podcast is doing great things.
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00:02:10.639Keep doing the work, keep providing the information.
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00:02:13.599And so it's good to hear that we're getting some great feedback.
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00:02:17.039You know, there we, you know, Ted, you and I, we have our lanes that we stay in.
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00:02:18.479You have yours, I have mine.
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00:02:26.800But it it is good to remember that there's people our in our age that are doing things that are would feel extreme to us, but they're still listening.
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00:02:31.680And so to provide deep into weeds information once in a while, I think it's good.
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00:02:34.479You know, we want to hit all listeners that are in this season.
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00:02:36.319And we did, we certainly did.
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00:02:42.879It would remind me of the episode we did with what was his name with uh the the guy who's uh he's a trainer and he did vitamins.
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00:02:48.560Oh my gosh, and the GLP ones, Kevin, yes, Kevin Hall was it Kevin Hall?
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00:02:49.520Kevin Hall.
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00:02:52.639These guys just they just know their stuff, man.
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00:03:02.000Well, it's it's interesting because you know, and I I kind of mentioned this to Joe last week, is people are listening.
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00:03:09.599I had a friend reach out and she said that was the first episode you guys have done where I just didn't think I'd be interested.
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00:03:12.960It was lifting weights, I've never lifted weights.
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00:03:16.400And she said, I kept listening.
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00:03:19.919She goes, Man, I pulled stuff out of things.
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00:03:29.120So when I used to do conferences in the past, if I went to a conference, I felt that if I got one piece of information out of it, it was worthwhile.
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00:03:29.439Right.
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00:03:46.240And she said, I got more than one piece out of that, even though I've never really been a weight left her, there was so much there, and it was she said, I you know, I really need to start doing something with weights.
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00:03:51.520It was he was so passionate about it, and it just made so much sense.
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00:03:56.800So yeah, he definitely brought the A game and and leveled it up in for a lot of us.
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00:04:04.479And you know, hey, if we could plant a seed and if people take that and actually water it and nurture it, man, what a blessing! What a blessing for the fourth quarter.
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00:04:16.079Yeah, all they have to do is get get a little piece out of each episode, they don't have to be hanging on every word, but just if something helps them in the episode, then it's worthwhile, right?
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00:04:16.639Right.
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00:04:24.000But so thanks, Joe, if you're listening and and to all the Hillsburg uh World Gym people out there and for who gave you beautiful, loving, positive feedback.
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00:04:37.040By the way, it says it at the end of the podcast, but for those of you who don't listen all the way through, you know, there is a text message you can send an anonymous text to Ted and I here at the show.
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00:04:57.759So we are always looking for feedback, whether it's you know something that we need to improve on or something we're doing well.
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00:05:19.040So, but if definitely if we're not doing something well, or you want to hear something or or you know somebody that wants to be coached or has information you think would be great for the fourth quarter podcast, man, please text us and give us some information.
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00:05:24.879But Ted, let's move.
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00:05:35.519Yeah, well, one thing uh I'm not very tech savvy, but we have set up an Instagram account for the podcast.
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00:06:53.279But Ted, you met somebody over was it last?
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00:07:01.199I think it was last week, and not only met met somebody, but you connected with them because they're doing something that's near and dear to your heart with with walking.
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00:07:02.240Tell tell us a little bit.
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00:07:04.000I think his name is is it Deanny?
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00:07:06.959Deany, yes, tell me about Deanny.
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00:07:09.439That's that's his nickname.
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00:07:13.680Geez, he told me told me his real name, and now I can't think of it.
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00:07:27.839But so so about a week or so ago, just browsing on Instagram, and I see this video of a guy walking, heavy, heavy guy, right?
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00:07:42.800I you know, I wonder where he started, what his story is.
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00:07:54.240And then I saw a couple of his videos, he posts one every day, and it's called Walking with Deanny is uh D-I-N-I, is the Instagram account.
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00:08:01.600Okay, and so I was looking at it and I saw that he had people walk along with him on some days, and I said that would be really cool.
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00:08:05.279I wonder where this guy's from, what part of the country?
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00:08:10.959And I look, and he's from Concord, he's from 15 miles away, if that.
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00:08:19.920And so I looked into his story a little bit more and I reached out to him and said, Hey, I'd love to come walk with you sometime.
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00:08:28.560So we met on Sunday and got to hear his story, and it's amazing.
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00:08:31.120He's really really.
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00:08:38.320I mean, he started at 596 pounds.
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00:08:40.960Wow, 596.
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00:08:46.240I guess we'll hear more about it next week.
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00:08:48.080Well, we'll hear the whole story next week.
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00:08:51.600Pretty amazing story.
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00:08:57.840Near death during COVID in the hospital, said goodbye to his family, the whole thing.
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00:09:01.519Oh my gosh.
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00:09:13.679I walked with him two laps around the the park, which was a mile, and I said, How come how come you don't walk any more than a mile?
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00:09:18.639He's been doing it for about 80 days, and he said, You know, I'm still it still hurts.
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00:09:22.080After a mile, my joints hurt, my back hurts.
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00:09:33.120Yeah, um, and and we'll get into the whole story more because by next week, when he comes on, he will have hit a milestone on his journey.
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00:09:43.360Yes, but great guy, and uh, he's actually uh has a a walk, an organized walk.
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00:09:48.639I believe it's October 10th and 11th, that he's going to be doing in Pleasant Hill.
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00:09:51.120He's got sponsors out there, wow.
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00:09:59.360He's got what he refers to as the Deany Army that follows him and encourages him, and he's just real inspiration.
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00:10:08.000And you know, so another person out there that gives you a reason to get out and move.
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00:10:16.000I mean, this guy's doing it, and yeah, you know, he's he's got issues, health issues, and he's still out there doing it.
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00:10:26.799He wants he wants to live to make it to his fourth quarter, and you know, there was a time in his life he didn't see that happening, and now he does.
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00:10:36.879He's he's moving to get healthy, and I'm looking forward to to talking to him even more and getting more in depth and letting everyone hear his story, right?
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00:10:40.000Man, that's that's so awesome, Ted.
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00:10:40.799So awesome.
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00:10:44.000And so I imagine you're part of the Dean E army now.
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00:10:47.679I am that's awesome.
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00:10:50.639Well, I do get to I'm actually a foot soldier now, I guess.
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00:10:51.840Yes, you are.
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00:10:57.919Well, I definitely try to connect, uh, if he's especially if he's doing he's walking every day, right?
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00:11:02.639Walks every day, and he does a little post on Instagram every day.
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00:11:04.639It's a minute, a minute and a half.
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00:11:06.320Yeah, just gives his thoughts.
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00:11:08.720Sometimes have someone walking with him.
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00:11:19.679He says he uses that time when he's by himself just to kind of use it as spiritual spiritual time that he's just got time to himself.
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00:11:28.399He just, you know, thinks about what he's doing and how fortunate he is to still be here and and inspiring people.
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00:11:29.919Wow, that's awesome.
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00:11:37.200Yeah, so I'll definitely have to make some time to go hang out with him on one of the I want to become part of the army, one of the foot soldiers, Ted.
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00:11:40.799Hey, speaking of, so he's got big goals, man.
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00:11:42.799Big, you know, big man has big goals.
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00:11:43.600I like it.
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00:11:44.480I like it.
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00:11:48.559And so speaking of goals, that's uh that's a great segue to let's recap, Ted.
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00:11:50.559So August is today's September 1st.
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00:11:52.000Happy September, everyone.
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00:11:54.559But that also means that August is over.
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00:12:00.480And if for our listeners who have been following, you know that August was a reset month for Ted.
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00:12:01.840He set some goals.
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00:12:02.799He set some goals.
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00:12:15.519So Ted, I know we have some new listeners, and I think it's important that you just briefly recap your why you chose August to reset, what your reset started out with, and how'd you do?
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00:12:17.200Did you fulfill your goals?
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00:12:21.440And give it, give me, give me some stats, brother.
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00:12:33.120Yeah, I mean, quick quick recap was went back to buddy reaching out and wanting to do a bike ride in October, which I committed to.
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00:12:42.559Then a challenge on Facebook came up to ride 300 miles in the month of August for cancer research.
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00:12:43.919So I joined that.
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00:13:08.720Thought, you know, that's some great incentive to get back on the bike, and then just decided to do a reset, refocus, recalibrate, whatever you want to say for the month of August, and just really try and fine-tune things a little bit and get ready for the second half of the year and moving into 2027.
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00:13:18.639So set some goals for myself, and I can I can say I hit everyone that I set.
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00:13:20.720What were the goals?
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00:13:22.080Give me some numbers.
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00:13:33.120Okay, so one of them was 300 miles on the bike, got it, which I completed with a 10 mile, 12 mile ride on the 31st.
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00:13:42.159I think I ended up with 302 miles, which I was happy about because I haven't been on the bike all year.
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00:13:45.200Yeah, maybe two or three times.
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00:13:57.200And this got me back on is crazy how you can just get that, get that back, get the conditioning back and feeling strong by the end of the month.
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00:14:00.000My rides at the end of the month just felt so good.
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00:14:02.320I felt so good being back on it.
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00:14:03.600So that's awesome.
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00:14:04.960I've got that enjoyment.
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00:14:10.720So that was let me first let me ask you, you know what, and let's do this for each category you're gonna you're gonna talk about.
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00:14:18.639But I just want to ask you, was there any when it when you first got on, you obviously you felt like you hadn't been on your bike in a while.
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00:14:26.320And was there some mental or emotional or physical obstacles that you faced along the way before you started feeling like you got in a groove?
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00:14:28.559I don't think so.
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00:14:33.600Physical, maybe more than anything, just not having been on it, but felt pretty comfortable.
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00:14:36.000You're just not as strong as you were.
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00:14:43.279And again, you know, I I wasn't comparing myself to when I had been riding a lot.
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00:14:49.679I knew it was going to take a few rides, and probably after three or four rides, I start feeling pretty good.
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00:14:58.240And uh it was interesting because I ride with the buddy, and I'm usually trying to hang with him to try and stay up with him.
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00:15:04.720And we rode the other day, and I didn't feel like I had to work to stay up with him.
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00:15:10.320I felt I was staying with him, just going at my normal pace.
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00:15:17.120And as we were finishing, he said, Man, I was struggling to stay up with you today.
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00:15:20.000Wow, and so it kind of flipped.
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00:15:22.960I didn't realize it, but yeah, it felt felt good.
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00:15:30.480Felt good to be back on the bike and you know, just gonna continue that on and looking forward to the ride in October.
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00:15:31.279Good man.
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00:15:32.000What was that?
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00:15:33.600What was the other step thing you commissioned?
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00:15:41.120Okay, one of them I set that I didn't mention to you was was a weight challenge for myself.
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00:15:53.200I had put on a few pounds and wanted to get rid of that, so I had I started out the first day of the month, I was 198.2 pounds.
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00:15:56.080And man, hold on, Ted, hold on, man.
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00:15:58.480Come on, because I know how much you weigh all the time.
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00:16:00.240But Ted, where you been, man?
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00:16:04.000You've been hanging out at McDonald's drive, you've been hanging out at the McDonald's drive-thru.
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00:16:05.200What's going on, Ted?
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00:16:09.360I don't know, I don't know what happened, but uh, you know, it it happens all the time.
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00:16:11.039It does happen, it does happen.
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00:16:22.399Get a little careless, you know, just start kind of eating, not paying attention, and next thing you know, and so my goal is to get down to 189, and I did.
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00:16:31.840I got down to 188 and a half, so I lost just under 10 pounds and feel good, feel much better.
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00:16:37.759I think to be honest, I think that's always part of the bike rides being easier.
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00:16:44.960You're you're building strength, but also when you're not carrying an extra 10 pounds on the bike, oh, that's easier it's a little easier to push it.
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00:16:56.480It's you there's a there's actual science and stats for every pound you lose, especially when you're riding uphill, how much more faster you can go or and your cadence and and all that stuff.
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00:17:05.519So But Ted, on the weight thing, let's uh let's let me ask you a quick question because you know that man, I mean, I that's something I always deal with.
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00:17:07.680I I I I get a little fluffy too, you know.
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00:17:23.200I have little seasons or whatever that I give myself permission to get fluffy, but there are very rare times, but it happens when I unknowingly get fluffy or I avoid looking at getting fluffy and I'm just staying stuck in a rut.
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00:17:33.119But what did you learn about yourself and what are you going to do forward to you know to to manage that or or sustain that moving forward?
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00:17:39.839Well, I I think I got myself back into some some healthier habits that I had kind of fallen away from.
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00:17:46.559I no snacking, very little snacking, real high protein.
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00:17:49.279I did intermittent fasting.
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00:17:57.519So I wasn't eating between I would eat between the hours of 11 in the morning and seven at night.
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00:18:00.079And I would deviate from that in the morning.
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00:18:04.400Sometimes I'd get some protein in in the morning if I felt I needed it.
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00:18:06.160I would eat a little earlier.
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00:18:17.680But the seven o'clock time was important because it kept me from snacking at night and just kept me from eating too soon before going to bed.
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00:18:31.680So I always felt better and really started going for walks after dinner every night, and even if it was 10 minutes, just getting out there and walking a little bit just helps everything, helps digestion and everything.
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00:18:35.920I I really focused on protein.
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00:18:43.759You know, we've heard it from all of our guests, but really paid attention to it, you know, just kind of made some changes.
00:18:43.920 -->
00:18:50.559Instead of having ice cream at night, I'd have Greek yogurt with frozen berries in it.
00:18:50.880 -->
00:19:03.359And you know, you get that sweetness, you get that little treat, but you're also getting protein from the the yogurt, and it's a healthy snack and isn't putting on those extra calories.
00:19:03.599 -->
00:19:09.599Yeah, so did that and just just kind of dialed it in.
00:19:09.680 -->
00:19:12.240Paid just paid attention, I think is the biggest thing.
00:19:12.480 -->
00:19:27.680I I didn't feel like I was depriving myself because when you're eating that much protein or eating protein in general, it just you you seem to be more you feel full, more satiated, yeah, for sure.
00:19:27.839 -->
00:19:31.359Yeah, so I I wasn't craving food, you know.
00:19:31.519 -->
00:19:33.759Went out one night and had frozen yogurt.
00:19:33.839 -->
00:19:38.799That was, I guess, my only treat, other than you know, the yogurt at night.
00:19:39.039 -->
00:19:41.440But yeah, I mean that that was it.
00:19:41.599 -->
00:19:44.480Just kind of paid attention more than anything.
00:19:44.720 -->
00:19:50.799And when you had your yogurt with the fruit, you it sounds like you had that be before or at seven, anyways.
00:19:51.200 -->
00:19:52.960Before, yeah, before seven.
00:19:53.119 -->
00:19:54.000Yeah, so that's cool.
00:19:56.400 -->
00:20:19.119Yeah, well, my biggest thing is I'm I'm a grazer and a snacker, and if there's nuts or trail mix or something around the house, you know, you grab a handful and then you grab another handful, and before you know it, you're watching TV and you've taken in three or four or five hundred calories without even thinking about it.
00:20:19.599 -->
00:20:21.440And still not feeling satisfied.
00:20:21.680 -->
00:20:22.079Right.
00:20:22.240 -->
00:20:29.519And and that's my, you know, that's the thing I really have to pay attention to, is just grabbing those handfuls of things.
00:20:29.759 -->
00:20:30.559So yeah.
00:20:30.640 -->
00:20:48.799And again, I what what I'm about to say next is not to promote any particular style uh style of of how you eat, but fasting, fasting and intermittent fasting, you know, there's a lot of great science on both of those things, but there's also some, you know, contradicting things going said out there.
00:20:48.880 -->
00:20:51.920And so I'm not here to say it's good for you or not.
00:20:52.160 -->
00:21:07.519I am here to say, though, if you have trouble snacking at night, which, you know, we're with me coaching hundreds of people in the in the past 10 years, that's one of the most common, absolute most common struggles people have is snacking at night.
00:21:07.599 -->
00:21:14.799And like you said, you're getting three, five, six, eight hundred calories without even realizing realizing it.
00:21:14.960 -->
00:21:18.960And again, like I said, not even getting satisfied from that.
00:21:19.200 -->
00:21:19.519Right.
00:21:19.759 -->
00:21:22.400So, and it happens, you know, well after we should stop.
00:21:22.480 -->
00:21:28.079You shouldn't be eating be before bed if you can make it at least an hour to three hours before bed.
00:21:28.240 -->
00:21:31.200Three hours is optimal, but you know, definitely.
00:21:31.359 -->
00:21:38.000So fasting, uh, I started fasting 24 hours, 72 hours, intermittent, all the things.
00:21:38.240 -->
00:21:43.119And the biggest gain I got from that was evening discipline.
00:21:43.359 -->
00:21:51.119Evening just just to tell to prove to yourself and your brain that you can go through the evening without having a snack.
00:21:51.279 -->
00:21:56.000And if you gain just that one tool, man, that's a game changer, right there.
00:21:56.079 -->
00:21:56.960That's a game changer.
00:21:57.039 -->
00:21:58.160So I just want to comment on that.
00:21:58.240 -->
00:21:59.839But congratulations, Ted, good job.
00:22:00.079 -->
00:22:01.920And great job losing that that weight, man.
00:22:02.000 -->
00:22:03.119That's freaking awesome.
00:22:03.359 -->
00:22:10.799Yeah, I think the biggest thing going back to the intermittent fasting, and of course, it's like anything else, you have to find something that works for you.
00:22:10.960 -->
00:22:11.279Right.
00:22:11.440 -->
00:22:17.599Uh this tends to work for me, like I said, because I I'm kind of a rule follower.
00:22:17.680 -->
00:22:20.880So after seven, I don't eat and don't snack.
00:22:21.119 -->
00:22:25.039But in doing that, it's kind of like somebody on a GLP one.
00:22:25.279 -->
00:22:33.759You you have to make sure that what you're taking in is quality and that you're getting the protein because you're in a shorter window.
00:22:33.839 -->
00:22:40.559You might only be eating two meals a day or two meals in a snack, but you need to still get that protein in.
00:22:40.799 -->
00:22:41.200Right.
00:22:41.599 -->
00:22:44.640So I'm I made a real point of that.
00:22:45.680 -->
00:22:49.759I like hard-boiled eggs, so that would be a snack or lunch.
00:22:49.839 -->
00:22:54.960Uh couple of those mixed in with some other stuff.
00:22:55.119 -->
00:22:59.039I found a number of things to do that are healthy.
00:22:59.440 -->
00:23:01.440So yeah, it worked out well.
00:23:01.599 -->
00:23:02.799And well done, brother.
00:23:02.960 -->
00:23:03.440Well done.
00:23:04.079 -->
00:23:09.359Plan to maintain that, not get not get fluffy again anytime soon.
00:23:09.680 -->
00:23:10.000All right.
00:23:10.079 -->
00:23:11.359Well, I'll I'll keep an eye on you.
00:23:11.440 -->
00:23:12.640We'll see how it goes.
00:23:13.680 -->
00:23:14.000Yeah.
00:23:14.240 -->
00:23:14.480All right.
00:23:14.559 -->
00:23:16.720What was the what was another metric you measured through?
00:23:17.279 -->
00:23:18.240Uh let's see.
00:23:19.599 -->
00:23:21.279Walking was a big one.
00:23:21.359 -->
00:23:28.799I my goal was 450,000 steps for the month, which I don't know what that.
00:23:28.880 -->
00:23:32.000I think that's like 14,000 steps or something a day.
00:23:32.640 -->
00:23:41.039And I actually ended up doing like 517,000 steps.
00:23:41.359 -->
00:23:44.240Man, what is that average out a day?
00:23:44.799 -->
00:23:45.920I don't know.
00:23:46.880 -->
00:23:48.720I'll do it while you're talking about it.
00:23:48.799 -->
00:23:49.680I'll get on the calculator.
00:23:50.319 -->
00:23:51.279I got it here.
00:23:52.480 -->
00:23:53.200Let's see.
00:23:54.799 -->
00:23:57.680You know, I I didn't really even pay attention.
00:23:57.839 -->
00:24:00.319I just just walked and just felt good.
00:24:00.559 -->
00:24:12.160And again, everything when you know you take off a few pounds, and it doesn't have to be a massive amount, but you take it off a little under 17,000 a day.
00:24:12.480 -->
00:24:13.519Yeah, I see that.
00:24:13.680 -->
00:24:16.160That's wow, that's that's some steppage, man.
00:24:16.240 -->
00:24:17.279Holy smokes.
00:24:17.519 -->
00:24:19.119And you got that done.
00:24:20.240 -->
00:24:25.440Yeah, just one out and you know, I enjoy it.
00:24:25.680 -->
00:24:26.559I enjoy it.
00:24:27.039 -->
00:24:34.640I listen to music, I listen to podcasts, and sometimes I just walk with nothing and just enjoy being out in nature.
00:24:34.880 -->
00:24:37.599I you know, we talked about it.
00:24:37.680 -->
00:24:47.119I hit you know, a milestone for me during the month was a thousand days in a row of a minimum of 10,000 steps.
00:24:47.519 -->
00:24:51.119And so anyway, did that.
00:24:51.200 -->
00:24:53.839Yeah, let's uh we'll get through this other stuff quickly.
00:24:53.920 -->
00:24:57.519I think we're probably boring people with these uh I love these numbers.
00:24:58.000 -->
00:24:58.640Go ahead.
00:24:59.279 -->
00:25:03.680You know, my goal was to do 4,000 push-ups in the month.
00:25:04.000 -->
00:25:07.200I did a hair over 5,000.
00:25:07.519 -->
00:25:07.839Okay.
00:25:09.839 -->
00:25:26.480Did did my planks every day, was doing five sets, a minute apiece at the end, doing some weights that I always do, and working on my balance, which that actually got better as the month went on.
00:25:26.559 -->
00:25:30.240I okay happy to say I struggled with that early in the beginning.
00:25:30.319 -->
00:25:31.039Yeah, I remember.
00:25:31.279 -->
00:25:34.000I stayed with it, and it's getting better.
00:25:34.240 -->
00:25:38.480So that's something that's something you're gonna keep on working on, though.
00:25:38.559 -->
00:25:40.400I mean, all these things you're gonna you're gonna keep on.
00:25:40.480 -->
00:25:43.599So uh uh out of all these things, Ted, what do you what are you keeping?
00:25:43.680 -->
00:25:49.759I mean, is are is there something any of these things that are gonna just go away or you're gonna adjust, or how does that work for you?
00:25:51.039 -->
00:25:52.799No, I don't see anything going away.
00:25:52.960 -->
00:25:57.119I mean, a lot of the stuff is you know, the walking I do all the time anyway.
00:25:57.279 -->
00:26:00.079That's part of just my daily routine.
00:26:00.400 -->
00:26:02.160The planks, I'll keep that up.
00:26:02.240 -->
00:26:07.599I I'll keep everything up and just just paying attention to what I'm doing.
00:26:07.759 -->
00:26:24.480You know, if I if I did this and uh going back to the nutrition piece of it and just say I'm gonna do this for a month because I want to lose some weight, and then just let it go after the month without learning anything, without creating some healthy habits, you know, then it's it's kind of a waste.
00:26:24.640 -->
00:26:25.759Like, why did you do it?
00:26:25.920 -->
00:26:26.240Right.
00:26:26.400 -->
00:26:30.640Um, but I never felt like I was depriving myself.
00:26:31.279 -->
00:26:33.680So it's something that I can maintain.
00:26:34.079 -->
00:26:48.240And you know, I I came across a quote the other day that just really could have been written by one of us, and said, You're the greatest project you'll ever work on.
00:26:48.640 -->
00:26:54.880Restart, reset, refocus as many times as you need, just never give up.
00:26:55.119 -->
00:26:57.759You have the power to shape your own destiny.
00:26:58.160 -->
00:27:03.119This requires dedication, effort, and a willingness to start again when necessary.
00:27:03.759 -->
00:27:12.559Value yourself, don't waste time on trivial matters, focus on being the best version of yourself, keep moving forward.
00:27:13.359 -->
00:27:30.240And you know, the the the one thing I took from that was I remember when I was coaching soccer, and we we used to tell the girls, the the guys I coached with, we can't want this more for you than you want it yourself.
00:27:30.480 -->
00:27:30.799Right.
00:27:31.359 -->
00:27:35.839It's you're never gonna be successful if you're trying to do it for somebody else.
00:27:36.640 -->
00:27:46.000But once you get it in your mind that you want to do it for you, be selfish, do it for you, do whatever it takes to be healthy.
00:27:46.240 -->
00:27:54.720Don't do it for a spouse, don't do it because you want to look good in the bathing suit, do whatever that motivation is, do it for yourself.
00:27:54.799 -->
00:27:56.640That's what's going to drive you.
00:27:56.880 -->
00:28:05.279And just the fact that, you know, I I felt like I was in pretty good shape heading into August and did this reset.
00:28:05.519 -->
00:28:09.440And it's amazing just how much better I feel.
00:28:09.599 -->
00:28:21.599So it doesn't matter where you are, and you know, next week when we talk to Deanny, you'll be amazed at you know the differences in his life right that as he's on this journey.
00:28:21.759 -->
00:28:23.680So I'm looking forward to that.
00:28:24.160 -->
00:28:27.680Yeah, so just you know, do it, do it for yourself.
00:28:27.839 -->
00:28:31.920Do it because you want to and not because somebody's telling you to do it.
00:28:32.079 -->
00:28:34.240Uh, you know, Doug and I are always here.
00:28:34.400 -->
00:28:46.160If anybody wants to wants that help, we'd love to, we'd love to help out, but don't do it for us, do it for you.
00:28:46.400 -->
00:28:46.640Yeah.
00:28:46.880 -->
00:28:48.160We're here to support you.
00:28:48.400 -->
00:28:48.640Right.
00:28:48.799 -->
00:28:52.799And and if you want to remain anonymous and off-air, that we we do that as well.
00:28:52.880 -->
00:29:06.559As a matter of fact, we had somebody that I won't mention name who reached out to us last week, and it was fun to get on a Zoom call and and go over some information and current, you know, things that was and this person was pretty dang healthy already.
00:29:06.799 -->
00:29:09.279Right, but wanted to fine-tune a few things.
00:29:09.359 -->
00:29:12.400And so I did a deep dive on on the back end.
00:29:12.480 -->
00:29:13.920I look forward to reconnecting.
00:29:14.000 -->
00:29:19.039Are we we reconnecting with that person this week, possibly maybe to later tomorrow?
00:29:19.279 -->
00:29:20.000Yeah, yeah.
00:29:20.240 -->
00:29:26.960Let's make that happen because I just want to see what the what the week uh played out for with what the instructions we left for that person.
00:29:27.200 -->
00:29:32.400So and you know, for the second part of this show, that's that's enough about my stuff.
00:29:32.480 -->
00:29:34.559And yeah, well, congratulations though, Ted.
00:29:34.799 -->
00:29:35.519Good job, brother.
00:29:35.599 -->
00:29:36.079Good job.
00:29:36.319 -->
00:29:36.880Thanks.
00:29:37.200 -->
00:29:44.720But you know, well, when we do this show, a couple things we we normally don't talk about, we don't talk politics, we don't talk religion.
00:29:44.799 -->
00:29:47.039We're you know, this is a health podcast, right?
00:29:47.359 -->
00:29:56.319But you experienced something this past weekend, and you know, I think this affected your spiritual health.
00:29:56.720 -->
00:30:16.799And you know, we're not here to put our beliefs on anyone else, but it was really something that you know, I know you worked on most of the summer to get ready for, and it took place this past weekend, and you said it had a huge impact on you as much as the people that you were working with.
00:30:17.039 -->
00:30:26.559So why don't you fill us in on what you did and give us some information and we'll ask questions as we go.
00:30:26.799 -->
00:30:27.759All right, all right.
00:30:27.920 -->
00:30:40.240So, uh yeah, so it I did a what's called a Kairos, and I think for those who have been following us, you've heard me say it before, but and this was Cairo 62, Cairo 62, big shout out to the Cairo 62 crew.
00:30:40.400 -->
00:30:57.759There was about gosh, 40 plus men and at least I don't know, 10 women on this team that had gathered and and did formation over the summer, twice a month, all day sessions, all day long, uh throughout the Bay Area.
00:30:57.920 -->
00:30:59.920And so it took up a lot of time.
00:31:00.000 -->
00:31:12.000It was a big commitment of just and and the formation was really about getting your mind, your heart, and your spirit, your soul prepared, because you're about to walk into a prison.
00:31:12.319 -->
00:31:33.519And uh the prison we walked into was San Quentin, and you are our job is to bring in the love of Christ to prisoners who may, you know, have well, not may, but they certainly feel hopeless, forgotten, unloved, unseen, unheard, a lot of shame, a lot of guilt.
00:31:33.759 -->
00:31:34.720And for good reason.
00:31:34.799 -->
00:31:38.000I we they get it, they understand, they understand.
00:31:38.319 -->
00:31:51.759But man, when I share with you what you know, some of the things they said towards the middle and end of the the encounter we provided for them, it's just amazing what a little sprinkle of love can do to a human being, you know.
00:31:51.920 -->
00:31:54.079It's just uh so let's go back now.
00:31:54.160 -->
00:31:55.279Let's set this up.
00:31:55.519 -->
00:32:01.359So you started on Friday night, you went in for the first time or Thursday night.
00:32:01.839 -->
00:32:02.799Thursday night, yeah.
00:32:02.880 -->
00:32:18.480So Thursday night from six to eight, Friday all day from eight to eight, Saturday all day from eight to eight, and then Sunday we attend either a Catholic Mass or a Protestant service at 11 a.m.
00:32:18.880 -->
00:32:34.000with the the the residents, we call them, with the residents, and and then we stayed, and then after the mass or service, then we come back together as a group, and then we stay again and do we finish up around eight o'clock Sunday night as well.
00:32:34.240 -->
00:32:36.799So it's it's a it's a long weekend.
00:32:36.880 -->
00:32:47.839And as you can imagine, Ted, it's deeply emotional, it's very taxing on your emotion, and like we don't get out of there until eight o'clock at night.
00:32:48.160 -->
00:32:55.680And then we have to drive back about a 15-minute drive back to our to the place to the compound we're staying at because we can't we can't stay in the prison.
00:32:57.200 -->
00:33:02.799And then when we get back there, there's the the we they're called angels.
00:33:02.880 -->
00:33:05.200That's this group of women who are on the team as well.
00:33:05.359 -->
00:33:13.119They stay bare, there's a lot of preparation that happens before we go in every day and after we come out every night.
00:33:13.359 -->
00:33:36.799And they take care of all the little nuances and big nuances and things that happen in between and on and on both bookends of this experience, so that when we get back, we they have a meal prepared for us, they have whatever items we have to go in with the next day prepared for us, they have lunches made for us the next day because we we don't eat with the the residents, the inmates.
00:33:37.119 -->
00:33:39.599There was a time back in the day when you did.
00:33:39.759 -->
00:33:49.759They used to go, you know, the people on the team would go into the chow hall with the general population and have lunch with the people who had signed up for this experience, but they don't do that anymore.
00:33:50.559 -->
00:33:59.920So it it just, you know, getting out of the prison at 8 p.m., then what you have to walk down this long walkway to get to your car.
00:34:00.079 -->
00:34:01.200It's a beautiful scenery.
00:34:01.279 -->
00:34:04.960I mean, San Quentin, for those who don't know, it's it's in what is that?
00:34:05.440 -->
00:34:06.559Is that San Rafael?
00:34:06.799 -->
00:34:08.639I think it's yeah, San Rafael.
00:34:08.880 -->
00:34:11.519And it's it's literally on the edge of the water right there.
00:34:11.599 -->
00:34:17.199I mean, it's if you were a multi-billionaire, you would buy that property and build condos or houses there for sure.
00:34:17.280 -->
00:34:19.920And it would be the edge of San Francisco Bay, yeah.
00:34:21.280 -->
00:34:21.760Exactly.
00:34:21.920 -->
00:34:23.360The view is phenomenal.
00:34:23.519 -->
00:34:24.559The view is phenomenal.
00:34:24.639 -->
00:34:30.639But anyways, you then you get in your car and by the time we get back to the compound, it's like
8:30 at night and you're ready for bed.
00:34:30.800 -->
00:34:50.639But no, we we got to have dinner, and then and but more important than dinner, we have to have uh decompression time and share and the angels that we call them, the the the women who stay behind and prepare stuff, they're they work hard to serve the inmates and us, and they want to know what's happening.
00:34:50.800 -->
00:34:55.840They want they part of their gift to them is to share our how did it go today?
00:34:56.000 -->
00:34:59.440You know, they're they're waiting eagerly, like what happened, what happened?
00:34:59.519 -->
00:35:05.840And so, you know, when you have 40 plus men sharing what happened, you're not going to bed at nine o'clock.
00:35:05.920 -->
00:35:15.440You know, there was many nights where, or not many, it's not like I was there for a week, but almost every night, I don't think I got my head on the pillow till around midnight.
00:35:15.760 -->
00:35:26.800And by the time the sharing and the decompression or happened and all that stuff, it was you're you're there, you're present, but you also feel the physical tiredness, you know.
00:35:26.880 -->
00:35:31.840And I the whole time I'm thinking, thank God I stay in shape, thank God I take care of myself.
00:35:32.000 -->
00:35:40.000And the meals they had provided for us, they you know, they were they were homemade meals, and it was just it was beautiful, you know, they fed us well.
00:35:40.320 -->
00:35:51.840And so so when you went in Thursday night, you were there for a couple of hours, you walk in for the first time, the gates shut behind you, and yes.
00:35:52.000 -->
00:35:54.320So I have a story with about Thursday night.
00:35:54.559 -->
00:36:00.239Okay, and but real quick, are the residents there that night?
00:36:00.320 -->
00:36:02.239Or that's the first time we meet them.
00:36:02.480 -->
00:36:06.159First time you meet them in we met some of them the weekend before.
00:36:06.239 -->
00:36:16.480We came in for an orientation night the weekend before, and there was maybe a handful of people who were gonna attend, but we also got to meet the weekend before what's called the inside team.
00:36:16.639 -->
00:36:25.920These are men who have gone through this Kairos experience in previous sessions, and they've been touched so much they want they want to stay connected.
00:36:26.079 -->
00:36:37.440So they they become servers on the inside, and they get a lot of preparation done, like setting up the room, the environment, anything we need done on the inside that we can't do because we can't just go in when we want to.
00:36:37.599 -->
00:36:44.239They have it all set up, like all the tables are decorated, they have the names of the tables up, and you know, all the tables are assigned a saint name.
00:36:44.320 -->
00:36:47.280I was I sat at Saint Paul was the name of our table.
00:36:47.360 -->
00:36:54.079And but yeah, Thursday night, if we go in and we meet the actual by then, we're these are all the people who have signed up.
00:36:54.239 -->
00:37:01.119And there's also men who were walking around who didn't sign up and they said, Hey, what's going on over there?
00:37:01.360 -->
00:37:17.679And they go on and and they hear what's going on, and they're like, and they're curious, and they heard that we we we might bring in some outside food and stuff from some things, and so they sign up with different intentions and like okay, well, yeah, I get a you know, an outside meal and you know, I'm gonna come hang out.
00:37:17.760 -->
00:37:23.760And uh, you know, they're not there for the for the what would you call it, the the kumbaya experience, I guess, right?
00:37:23.840 -->
00:37:29.360They're they're they're they're they want to see what's up and uh get some some some good good eats.
00:37:29.679 -->
00:37:35.679And they might see one of their one of their fellow inmates there as well, and they say, Yeah, I don't know, I'm just trying it out.
00:37:35.760 -->
00:37:42.480And so they you know, there was a few people who showed up for different reasons than spirituality.
00:37:43.039 -->
00:37:45.679So Thursday night, to my story, Thursday night.
00:37:45.760 -->
00:38:01.840Yeah, during the formation, we are told multiple times that when we get there and a Fagard looks at you and says, I can't let you in with those pants or that color shirt, we are not allowed to argue, we're not allowed to question.
00:38:01.920 -->
00:38:07.280We just have to say, okay, walk out, and we don't get to get in.
00:38:07.519 -->
00:38:19.360Now, if it if it's just a wardrobe change, we all have been told and taught that bring a pair of bring a shirt and pants that you know absolutely will get you in, you know, the certain colors.
00:38:19.440 -->
00:38:24.960You can't wear certain colors, and and and surprisingly, it's not has nothing to do with red or blue.
00:38:25.119 -->
00:38:29.280You cannot wear blue because that's what color they wear on the inside, but you can wear red.
00:38:29.360 -->
00:38:32.800And so if you're from the 80s like I was, you know, red and blue, you you can't.
00:38:32.880 -->
00:38:34.239That's the Crips and the Bloods, man.
00:38:34.320 -->
00:38:37.519You can't be playing, but that's not an issue, that's not a thing these days.
00:38:37.599 -->
00:38:39.920And so so I get there.
00:38:40.079 -->
00:38:44.079So there it's pounded into us anytime, you know, you just never know.
00:38:44.239 -->
00:38:53.519There have been men and women who have prepared for this whole weekend all summer long and were not allowed in for the weekend.
00:38:54.480 -->
00:39:01.760And it's disappointing and it's frustrating for the for the the leaders on the team because they know that like you know, come on, what's the problem?
00:39:01.920 -->
00:39:15.039We had clearance, and you could even have clearance on paper, and it shows emails back from the prison that you've been cleared, and yet you get to the guard gate and they say no for whatever reason.
00:39:15.280 -->
00:39:17.199And so Thursday night shows up.
00:39:17.280 -->
00:39:18.960I'm I'm ready to go.
00:39:19.119 -->
00:39:27.440And a lot of the veterans came up to me, you know, before we drove over to the prison when we were at our compound, and they said, How are you feeling?
00:39:27.519 -->
00:39:28.000How are you doing?
00:39:28.079 -->
00:39:30.880I said, You know, I'm just I'm just remaining empty.
00:39:30.960 -->
00:39:32.000I want to be a vessel.
00:39:32.079 -->
00:39:36.239I, you know, I don't want to bring my agenda in or my feelings or my emotions.
00:39:36.480 -->
00:39:42.159I got to keep my head empty and my heart empty so that that that Christ can fill it up and that he's the one doing the work.
00:39:42.239 -->
00:39:44.239And they're like, Oh, you're in a good place, man.
00:39:44.320 -->
00:39:46.400Let's you'll be fine, you'll be fine.
00:39:46.639 -->
00:39:48.559So Thursday night shows up.
00:39:48.800 -->
00:39:59.440This is when we get to meet all the inmates for the first time, and I get to the gate, and me and two other men could not get in Thursday night.
00:39:59.679 -->
00:40:02.400And man, Ted, I'll tell you, I was like, wow.
00:40:03.119 -->
00:40:08.159You know, funny thing is there was a small piece of relief because I had a lot of anxiety going in.
00:40:08.719 -->
00:40:10.639Man, I'm about to walk into a prison.
00:40:10.880 -->
00:40:17.519It's funny, I'll tell you another story because one of the one of the inmates asked me, like, who was sitting at my table, he goes, Well, how'd you feel coming in here, man?
00:40:17.599 -->
00:40:18.960Like, what were you thinking?
00:40:19.199 -->
00:40:22.159And I'll tell you what I said to him a little later, but remind me.
00:40:22.320 -->
00:40:31.199But you know, I started, you know, I would, you know, you you watch you grow up and you watch prison movies, and so you got all these thoughts and you know, these Hollywood uh Hollywood effects going through your brain.
00:40:31.280 -->
00:40:40.079And and so there was a part of me that, you know, was like, okay, you know, but there was more disappointment, definitely, definitely a bigger sense of disappointment.
00:40:40.400 -->
00:40:45.119But almost immediately, because they had prepared us so well for this, I just let it go.
00:40:45.199 -->
00:40:54.400And I said, Okay, well, God obviously needs me to work on something, on letting go and just letting his will play out and being okay with that.
00:40:54.480 -->
00:40:56.639And can I be present where my feet are?
00:40:56.880 -->
00:41:00.559And so we told we were told that if that happens, you have a you have a choice.
00:41:00.719 -->
00:41:08.079You can call it a weekend and head back home, or you can go back to the compound and help the the angels with things they're working on.
00:41:08.320 -->
00:41:11.440So me and the three men said, Hey, it's only Thursday night.
00:41:11.599 -->
00:41:12.639Let's go back.
00:41:12.880 -->
00:41:14.880And you know, we were all good with it.
00:41:14.960 -->
00:41:18.079It was great to I thank God there was a couple others.
00:41:18.159 -->
00:41:19.599I'm I'm not glad it happened to them.
00:41:19.679 -->
00:41:30.800I, you know, I wish it would have only happened to me, but I was grateful that I had two other people that I could dialogue with and process this with going back because it could be, I mean, we put a lot of time and work into this.
00:41:31.440 -->
00:41:33.599And you still had no idea why.
00:41:33.840 -->
00:41:35.599There was no, there was no reason.
00:41:35.679 -->
00:41:42.639We were on, they showed the emails to to us, showing us the admin on the inside had approved us all.
00:41:42.800 -->
00:41:48.400We were I had like I literally have a a year clearance for San Quentin Prison to go visit.
00:41:48.480 -->
00:41:51.679I need to have what's called a person with the brown card.
00:41:51.760 -->
00:41:53.920They they have more access than I do.
00:41:54.400 -->
00:41:58.719They have special privileges in the prison because they've been connected with it for a long time.
00:41:59.119 -->
00:42:02.400But so I can't just go down there and jump on in and go visit if I want to.
00:42:02.480 -->
00:42:04.159I have to go with the brown card.
00:42:04.400 -->
00:42:11.119But but, anyways, we went back and I got to see what the angels did behind the scenes.
00:42:11.360 -->
00:42:21.039And what's really cool is the angels are given all the meditations and all the talks that we do on the inside, and they're given the schedule that we do them on.
00:42:21.280 -->
00:42:49.119So they're literally back there and they're going through, they're reading all the meditations and all the talks, even our testimonies, because we we have to type them all up and we have to print them all out and several copies to give to each table, because some of we had two tables of just Spanish speaking, you know, inmates, and so we and we had translators at those who are more or less reading from our our typed out copy to the table so that it everything could connects well.
00:42:49.280 -->
00:43:00.960So we go back and so we we didn't miss what was being said and all that stuff because we went through it with the uh with the angels, and the angels create this small group environment where you dialogue.
00:43:01.119 -->
00:43:03.840Okay, you heard this meditation or you heard this talk.
00:43:04.000 -->
00:43:04.880What did it bring to you?
00:43:04.960 -->
00:43:06.320What'd you what would you come out of it?
00:43:06.400 -->
00:43:26.400And like I said, there's 10 or 12 angels there, and so it's a it's a very deep, comprehensive discussion, and it gets real personal, and it was just a really awesome experience of what they what they're what they're not just kicking back and you know enjoying some quiet time, like they're getting into this and it's changing their lives.
00:43:26.559 -->
00:43:37.599And then they get to and when we come back and we share with them what what we heard, you know, they get to take what they did and and marinate it or marry it to what we experienced.
00:43:37.679 -->
00:43:39.519And wow, it's just a powerful experience.
00:43:39.599 -->
00:43:52.239So I'm so grateful that I got to experience that, and and more grateful that you know I was tested and and you know, deepened my commitment to being there through that process of not getting in on the Thursday night.
00:43:52.400 -->
00:43:56.960So you so you go back Friday morning and you have no idea whether you're gonna be able to go in or not.
00:43:57.199 -->
00:43:58.320I have no idea at all.
00:43:58.480 -->
00:43:58.800No idea.
00:43:59.119 -->
00:43:59.760And what happened?
00:44:00.639 -->
00:44:09.840So our admin person had sent several emails out the night before saying, hey, this week, this guy's these guys are approved, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:44:10.000 -->
00:44:13.599And when I go back on Friday, that's when I was assigned to talk.
00:44:13.920 -->
00:44:15.760My talk was on the church.
00:44:16.079 -->
00:44:19.360And so I'm like, okay, well, I hope I get in.
00:44:19.679 -->
00:44:20.800But if not, here's my talk.
00:44:20.880 -->
00:44:21.760And da-da-da-da.
00:44:22.159 -->
00:44:23.519And and no one knew.
00:44:23.840 -->
00:44:24.719You just don't know.
00:44:24.880 -->
00:44:27.519But I show up Friday, me and the two other guys.
00:44:27.599 -->
00:44:34.800And the one of the guys that didn't that got denied Thursday night, his was the very first talk of Friday.
00:44:34.880 -->
00:44:37.119So we're just like, oh my gosh, man.
00:44:37.360 -->
00:44:47.199And the other guy who got denied Thursday night, he was literally his role was the assistant to the leader of the group because he's doing the next kairos.
00:44:47.440 -->
00:44:55.199So, like he's supposed to be in there shadowing and he's actually leading this one to prepare to lead for the next one.
00:44:55.360 -->
00:44:55.599Right.
00:44:55.760 -->
00:45:02.719So he he had to miss the whole Thursday night thing, and we're like, oh my gosh, you couldn't pick three worse people to miss Friday if we had to miss.
00:45:02.960 -->
00:45:03.360Right.
00:45:03.599 -->
00:45:06.320But by the grace of God, man, we were in.
00:45:06.480 -->
00:45:11.440We got in Friday morning, and we were our hearts were resounding with joy.
00:45:11.599 -->
00:45:17.440I was a little, you know, a little lost, like, okay, gosh, I didn't get to meet these guys.
00:45:17.519 -->
00:45:18.719I haven't seen their faces.
00:45:18.800 -->
00:45:20.400The rest of the team's connecting with them.
00:45:20.480 -->
00:45:23.280They're all shaking hands with them and and talking with them.
00:45:23.360 -->
00:45:26.079And I'm I'm just now meeting them for the first time.
00:45:26.559 -->
00:45:30.480And by the way, when we got there Friday to get in, we it wasn't an immediate.
00:45:30.559 -->
00:45:32.239We didn't get to walk in with the rest of the team.
00:45:32.400 -->
00:45:34.079We had to go through a few little things.
00:45:34.320 -->
00:45:36.239We actually got sent back to our car.
00:45:36.400 -->
00:45:40.960We had to wait in there for about a half hour, 45 minutes after the team initially got in.
00:45:41.119 -->
00:45:45.599And then finally, one of the guys came down and he said, He's waving us up.
00:45:45.760 -->
00:45:46.559Come on, you're in.
00:45:46.719 -->
00:45:48.480And we're like, Oh my gosh.
00:45:48.800 -->
00:45:56.000So it was, it was, you know, a little challenging emotionally, but we got in and got into plenty of time for our talks.
00:45:56.079 -->
00:45:58.239And it was just an incredible.
00:45:58.559 -->
00:46:01.760So yes, we walk in, the gates close.
00:46:02.079 -->
00:46:26.239And now at this time, because the weekend before I got in, I was in with the inside team, inside team, and knowing that the inside team had gone through this experience, knowing that the inside team are men that have had their hearts transformed, that you know, I'm gonna be around some like-minded Christian brothers, you know, that that are gonna receive me with love and and you know, just and gratitude because I'm coming in to serve their population.
00:46:26.400 -->
00:46:44.480And but so I meeting them was a little easier, but knowing the second time coming in, knowing that I'm gonna be meeting people who signed up because they wanted, you know, some good food, and their intention wasn't to necessarily be there for a spiritual experience or an encounter with Jesus.
00:46:44.559 -->
00:46:51.119And so, you know, it was it was a little different, and the gates closed, and I'm just like, oh my gosh, here we are, here we are.
00:46:51.360 -->
00:46:58.719And then the weekend kicks off, and it's it is just an altruistic experience, man.
00:46:58.800 -->
00:47:01.199Like it's an outer body experience.
00:47:01.519 -->
00:47:12.480You really have to prepare your mind, your heart, your emotions to just you when that gate closes behind you, you leave yourself at that door and you let your body be a vessel.
00:47:12.639 -->
00:47:20.719At least this is my my experience, just become a vessel for for Christ to use and touch others, and it works.
00:47:20.960 -->
00:47:25.199It's just it's it's an amazing experience.
00:47:25.840 -->
00:47:30.719So going back to the so it there's small group tables.
00:47:30.800 -->
00:47:54.159I gosh, there was at least I didn't even count them, but probably 10 tables where there was you know at least three to four uh team members at a table, and then at least three to six inmates or residents at a table, and they would have we would have meditations and talks, and we would break, unpack them, unpack them.
00:47:54.320 -->
00:48:02.400And we were very blessed, I would say, because you could see and you could feel the energy in the room shift from day one.
00:48:02.559 -->
00:48:17.519I I wasn't there Thursday night, so I can't comment on that, but I the some of the guys commented on Thursday night when they came back to to debrief that you know there was a few hard characters that you know you could tell that some wall it might take some time for some walls to come down.
00:48:17.760 -->
00:48:28.239But right, what I noticed was from day one, man, on Friday, the walls were already coming down, the openness was happening, and and there's a lot of singing that goes on.
00:48:28.400 -->
00:48:44.079I mean, we we sing almost after every talk and coming back from every break, and you know, to have these guys come out and and sing with us, and we everybody's standing up and we got songbooks and we're singing, and the you know, the decibel level was loud, man.
00:48:44.159 -->
00:48:48.400I was like, oh my gosh, this is amazing that it's not just the team singing.
00:48:48.639 -->
00:48:53.840Like, there's some inmates in here that that are just going for it and they're singing loud and proud.
00:48:53.920 -->
00:48:58.800And it was, and we got some cool songs going on and things they can connect with and relate to.
00:48:58.960 -->
00:49:10.880So it was it was really I I noticed because I, you know, after being in youth ministry for 17 years and running many, many retreats, I know what it takes to make that connection.
00:49:10.960 -->
00:49:17.119So and sometimes it doesn't happen until two or three days later, you know, before some walls start coming down.
00:49:17.280 -->
00:49:20.880But I noticed definitely there was a shift happening on day one.
00:49:21.440 -->
00:49:29.280Well, and I know you said that you you couldn't ask the inmates why they were there or how long they were there.
00:49:29.440 -->
00:49:35.039You said some of them might have shared that, but I mean, there's people there that's their life.
00:49:35.199 -->
00:49:50.800Yes, that will be their life forever is being in there, and they're looking for something bigger for themselves, I guess, than because you know they're they're never gonna see yeah, the outside world again.
00:49:50.960 -->
00:50:15.920Yep, and so you know, I I think I was spoiled, and I think people who come and do a Kairos may be spoiled if San Quentin, especially now, not back in the day, but now, if that is the place where you go and do service, because San Quentin is is changed from a I forget what level prison it was, but they have certain levels for prisons, level one, level two, level three, level, level four, I think is maximum security.
00:50:16.000 -->
00:50:19.599That's where like vicious violent criminals go.
00:50:19.679 -->
00:50:23.760And and but San Quentin is either is a level one and two, I believe.
00:50:23.920 -->
00:50:26.239And so these, but there are lifers in there.
00:50:26.480 -->
00:50:30.159San Quentin also used to have death row, but they no longer have that.
00:50:30.400 -->
00:50:33.840They've also just built a I can I don't remember how much it was cost.
00:50:33.920 -->
00:50:39.199It was, I think it was at least a billion or two billion dollar education facility in there.
00:50:39.440 -->
00:50:45.679And Ted, I'm gonna tell you, man, there is so much freaking talent in that prison.
00:50:45.760 -->
00:50:48.159It is just it just blew me away.
00:50:48.400 -->
00:50:56.639The intellect and the in and the education that these men have, you just look back and say, gosh dang it, man.
00:50:57.039 -->
00:50:59.360One decision changed everything.
00:50:59.599 -->
00:51:01.039One decision changed everything.
00:51:01.199 -->
00:51:10.880Now, with that said, I will share with you because there were some lifers in our group and they know they're there for life.
00:51:11.280 -->
00:51:12.320They know it.
00:51:12.880 -->
00:51:27.760And yet, knowing that these lifers have in prison obtained college degrees, many certificates of education, they have gained gained skills that they'll never use on the outside.
00:51:28.800 -->
00:51:29.199Right?
00:51:29.440 -->
00:51:37.840But they're they are committed to becoming better human beings the best they can because they still have families on the outside.
00:51:37.920 -->
00:51:43.039So many of them have are still married, many of them have kids that they're in contact with.
00:51:43.440 -->
00:51:52.800And so when they they want to be the best version of themselves when they do have the little contact they have with their families or any communication.
00:51:53.119 -->
00:52:00.480And so it's just amazing that they're not, you know, like we see in the in the in the prison movies, right?
00:52:00.559 -->
00:52:11.920Like it's you just get hard and you get tainted, and it's you're either gonna join this gang and you're gonna become more violent and hardened, or or you know, and become part of that life.
00:52:12.159 -->
00:52:23.840And I'm sure there are people in there that have chosen that route, but they will no longer be in San Quentin if they if their behavior acts out in that way, but they'll they'll go to a level three or level four prison.
00:52:24.159 -->
00:52:45.199So there's, you know, if you are a lifer and you've accepted that, hey, this is my path, and you want a, I don't want to call it a, but for a lack of a better word, an easier route, an easier path with a little more flexibility in your life, even though you're on the inside, then you will live a life in prison that will eventually lead you to San Quentin.
00:52:45.280 -->
00:52:51.440That and that that is a desired prison to be at for people who have accepted this is my life.
00:52:51.599 -->
00:52:54.400And, you know, sure, I would love to get into some education.
00:52:54.480 -->
00:53:02.320I would love to have a little more flexibility in my schedule and all that stuff and and more privileges than you would in a maximum security prison.
00:53:02.639 -->
00:53:13.039Yeah, it's amazing the motivation to do something like that, knowing, like you said, that you'll never use it, but you're you're better in yourself.
00:53:13.360 -->
00:53:14.400Yeah, yeah.
00:53:14.639 -->
00:53:29.119And it's you know, it's just you know, one of the things, one of the most profound things I heard was, you know, we're there to introduce people to God, to Christ, to Jesus, you know, to a spiritual life.
00:53:29.199 -->
00:53:34.320To, and again, we're not trying to, and in my talk, I made it very clear there.
00:53:34.480 -->
00:53:44.320I even wrote in my talk that we are not here to convince you, to connive you, or to trick you to believe in God or or or what we believe in.
00:53:44.400 -->
00:53:52.320We are simply here to love you, and even more so to allow Christ to love you through us, because you are not forgotten, you know.
00:53:52.400 -->
00:53:58.559And and yes, we all, all of us, there's some of us on this team that are not in prison because we haven't been caught.
00:53:59.840 -->
00:54:01.199That's the only difference.
00:54:01.360 -->
00:54:03.440We're no different than you, you know.
00:54:03.840 -->
00:54:13.280And but, you know, but but so some of the not some, many of them were sharing because they always got opportunities to share.
00:54:13.360 -->
00:54:14.400Like, how are you guys doing?
00:54:14.480 -->
00:54:18.000So they would come up voluntarily to share what they're getting so far.
00:54:18.320 -->
00:54:21.840At least two or three times we offered that, and then at the end we did as well.
00:54:22.480 -->
00:54:37.280And many times you heard, you know, nobody chooses to be locked up or to or to make the choices we did, but I can clearly say that had I not done what I did and ended up here, I would have not experienced this weekend.
00:54:37.440 -->
00:54:49.760And I can't tell you how grateful I am to get to know God on this perspective, on this level, because I there's nothing in my life that would have introduced me to God in this way.
00:54:50.000 -->
00:55:01.039And, you know, if it if this is what it took for me to meet God in his love, then I don't regret, you know, having to be here, even if it's a lifetime.
00:55:01.199 -->
00:55:10.320And and and there was some guy, there was one guy at our table who's getting out in in November, and he was there, you know, he was almost out and he was there.
00:55:10.400 -->
00:55:13.360He could he didn't have to go do an extra program, right?
00:55:13.760 -->
00:55:15.360But but he was so grateful.
00:55:15.440 -->
00:55:22.719He's like, Oh, he goes, you know, I'm so glad I did this because I don't think I would have done anything like this uh once I got out.
00:55:23.119 -->
00:55:25.760But now I know, now I know what's available to me.
00:55:25.920 -->
00:55:29.119And he was the guy that asked me, he goes, So what was it like?
00:55:29.199 -->
00:55:31.440Uh you're coming in here, man.
00:55:31.679 -->
00:55:34.559Like I said, I don't know what I said, well, I'll tell you.
00:55:34.719 -->
00:55:36.079I said, but what was it like for you?
00:55:36.239 -->
00:55:37.119I said, Well, you know what?
00:55:37.280 -->
00:55:41.199You ask me first of all, I'll ask you, I'll I'll answer because I want to keep it real with you.
00:55:41.280 -->
00:55:51.679I said, when I first started realizing what I committed to coming into a prison, I said, the first thing that came to my mind was all the prison movies that I watched growing up, you know.
00:55:51.760 -->
00:55:54.159So I I so he he smiled a little bit.
00:55:54.320 -->
00:55:55.840I said, So I'm gonna keep it real with you, man.
00:55:55.920 -->
00:55:56.960I'm 100.
00:55:57.119 -->
00:56:07.199I thought I was I was gonna have to look, keep my head on a swivel and looking for somebody to get, you know, bring out, break out a shiv, they sharpen up a spoon or something and come, you know, stick me on the side.
00:56:07.280 -->
00:56:09.599And he started dying laughing, man.
00:56:10.159 -->
00:56:17.760And I said, but and I said, I and and I thought I was gonna meet some hard people that were, you know, wanted to have their way with me and all this stuff.
00:56:17.840 -->
00:56:23.440And he was just laughing, he was rolling by the time I was finished telling him all the true thoughts that were going through my head.
00:56:23.519 -->
00:56:25.440I said, But come on, man, keep it real with me.
00:56:25.599 -->
00:56:30.719Like when you first got incarcerated and and brought to a prison, like what went through your mind?
00:56:30.800 -->
00:56:33.039And he goes, Yeah, yeah, you know, it's the same.
00:56:33.119 -->
00:56:42.079It's the you, you know, that's all we know is what we see on TV, or you hear from you know, people that might have been, and it just it's not like that here.
00:56:42.239 -->
00:56:52.960And uh my only thought as you say that is the difference is you know, you're leaving at eight o'clock at night and you're gonna do this for three days, right?
00:56:53.280 -->
00:57:00.079Versus some of them going in and knowing I'm never gonna see the outside, I'm never gonna be free again.
00:57:00.239 -->
00:57:02.880Yeah, uh whole different experience.
00:57:03.199 -->
00:57:06.400So we're gonna get to the music here pretty quick.
00:57:06.559 -->
00:57:07.280Yes, yes.
00:57:08.000 -->
00:57:14.320Why don't you very briefly, what is your biggest takeaway from the weekend?
00:57:15.199 -->
00:57:26.000You know, Ted, when I signed up, the I I've been in service to others, leading them to Jesus for gosh, many, many years.
00:57:26.079 -->
00:57:31.199And I worked as a youth minister for 17 years, and that was what I did.
00:57:31.599 -->
00:57:40.000And there have been a maybe two or three occasions where God made it very clear that I wasn't going there to serve.
00:57:40.159 -->
00:57:48.800And this was one of those occasions that I that he was he allowed me to be a part of this team because he wanted me to be served.
00:57:49.199 -->
00:58:01.840And my biggest takeaway was that I was massively served with a new perspective, a new mindset, and a new way to look at of how where my mind is and where I might need some work.
00:58:02.159 -->
00:58:10.800Because, you know, these men they showed me the profound impact you can have with your mindset.
00:58:11.760 -->
00:58:31.519Especially the ones that are in there for life, or even there's there were men in there for 40 plus years, 50 plus years in there and who have degrees and education and and all this other stuff, and and they're helping people even on the outside through, you know, vis not visiting, but you know, just sending stuff out or whatever.
00:58:31.760 -->
00:58:46.719And and I think about gosh, how much further could I be in my life if I didn't keep myself locked up in my mental prison, in my emotional prison, you know, limiting with my limiting beliefs.
00:58:47.599 -->
00:58:57.920And here's men that you know have literal concrete walls, literal iron bars, literal restrictions, told when to eat, when to wake up, when to do this, when to do that.
00:58:58.239 -->
00:59:01.039Who the world is their oyster.
00:59:01.519 -->
00:59:05.599They don't they're not that's not an excuse for them to have limits.
00:59:06.239 -->
00:59:13.039Like they, they're they're like Ted, the talent that is in that prison just blew me away.
00:59:13.360 -->
00:59:21.840And so the biggest lesson was that you know, sometimes when we show up to be of service to others, be open to be served.
00:59:22.000 -->
00:59:24.079There's there's something there for you.
00:59:24.800 -->
00:59:27.599And you've got to be open to that happening.
00:59:27.679 -->
00:59:36.559And two, that you know, if you're not happy with where you're at in life, you know, your biggest obstacle is you.
00:59:36.880 -->
00:59:40.239There, there's just there is no other obstacle in this world.
00:59:40.400 -->
00:59:47.760I don't care if you lose your legs, I don't care if if you know you you experienced a tragic, violent crime.
00:59:47.920 -->
00:59:50.079And again, I'm not saying I don't care if that happened.
00:59:50.159 -->
00:59:51.360I, of course, I got compassion.
00:59:51.440 -->
01:00:00.000I'm just saying there is no dang excuse why you can't fulfill whatever's on your heart's desire, whatever vision you see in your mind.
01:00:00.320 -->
01:00:04.480It really is you that is keeping you from doing it, it is whatever is going on.
01:00:04.639 -->
01:00:12.639And again, some of us have beautiful reasons, hard reasons for that, for having those walls in our mind.
01:00:12.800 -->
01:00:19.039You know, some of us have faced trauma and we heard so many traumatic stories of why people did what they did.
01:00:19.519 -->
01:00:25.039And again, it doesn't excuse it, but it certainly gives you reason why certain things can go a certain way.
01:00:25.360 -->
01:00:34.800But, you know, even free people like us, Ted, have you know, we've created these walls, we've created these boundaries, we created these limits that we don't need to.
01:00:35.679 -->
01:00:40.000But it takes work, it takes work, but and got to start like you and I coach people here.
01:00:40.239 -->
01:00:41.840You know, start small.
01:00:42.320 -->
01:00:52.320Man, if you can't get off, if you haven't walked, then just start practicing by getting off the couch, you know, just get off the couch every day at every commercial.
01:00:52.480 -->
01:00:56.719Stand up if that's all you did, man, and you weren't doing it before, that's progress.
01:00:57.039 -->
01:01:00.559So those those are those are that's a big takeaways that I'm that I'm taking.
01:01:00.800 -->
01:01:01.760So bringing it, yeah.
01:01:01.840 -->
01:01:09.360So bringing it back to you know, fitness and health and what we normally do is just don't don't limit yourself with your mind.
01:01:09.519 -->
01:01:16.559Yes, you know, you're you're capable of anything, regardless of what that is and what it looks like to you.
01:01:17.519 -->
01:01:19.119Don't don't limit yourself.
01:01:19.280 -->
01:01:25.519Don't again going back to Jonathan Pasqual, don't think about what you can't do, think about what you can do.
01:01:25.760 -->
01:01:28.239Yes, oh my gosh, so true.
01:01:28.400 -->
01:01:33.679Yeah, and that's because that's what every one of those guys in there is that's their mindset is what can I do?
01:01:34.000 -->
01:01:34.639Right.
01:01:34.960 -->
01:01:39.360Okay, so in every episode, we wrap it up with music.
01:01:39.440 -->
01:01:41.760I usually play a song to end it, right?
01:01:42.159 -->
01:01:49.199But this week we're going to do something different because you know, this was about your experience.
01:01:49.519 -->
01:01:57.119So we're letting letting Doug this week is going to pick the music and set it up for you.
01:01:57.280 -->
01:01:58.880So yeah, let's hear it.
01:01:58.960 -->
01:02:00.400I know you have a story behind it.
01:02:00.639 -->
01:02:01.440I do, I do.
01:02:01.519 -->
01:02:11.119So thank you, Tana, for letting me do this part because we for every kairos that goes into the prison, the leader is responsible for choosing a theme song.
01:02:11.280 -->
01:02:15.199And our leader, I'm just gonna just shout his name, name out, is Bob Bullard.
01:02:15.440 -->
01:02:25.679And he's not just he wasn't just the leader of that Kairos, but Bob was a man that I grew up with when I was just a child, him and his brother Joe Bullard, who was actually on the team as well.
01:02:25.920 -->
01:02:30.960And so Bob was the leader and did a phenomenal job, putting an amazing team together.
01:02:31.280 -->
01:02:44.559And when he decided to lead this Kairos, he had he had served on many Kairos teams prior to this, and so he knew a lot of the community, and everyone was excited for him to lead and finally get his chance to step up in that role.
01:02:44.719 -->
01:02:49.360And a lot of people sent him amazing songs he could have chosen.
01:02:49.599 -->
01:02:50.159Amazing.
01:02:50.239 -->
01:02:53.840And but Bob's a very prayerful man, a very man of discernment.
01:02:54.000 -->
01:03:01.920And as much as he appreciated and loved all the songs and felt overwhelmed with the love and support that he was getting to help him choose a song.
01:03:02.159 -->
01:03:03.440Uh I forget what he said.
01:03:03.599 -->
01:03:08.400He was driving or something, or he was listening to a song by Jelly Roll.
01:03:08.719 -->
01:03:14.239And and for those of you who know Jelly Roll, Jelly Roll did some time in prison.
01:03:14.320 -->
01:03:25.119And I don't I don't know if it was even San Quentin, maybe, but Jelly Roll had written some songs, and all of a sudden this song came on, and Bob said, That's it.
01:03:25.360 -->
01:03:26.079That's the song.
01:03:26.239 -->
01:03:31.519And if you listen to the lyrics in the beginning, it's it's an emotion that many inmates can carry.
01:03:31.679 -->
01:03:33.679It's a road that they walk.
01:03:34.000 -->
01:03:45.840But then when you get to the the chorus of the song, it you know, that's the it speaks of the hope that's to come, you know, where where you can find refuge and peace and and hope to move forward.
01:03:46.000 -->
01:03:53.679And so the bot the song connected with Bob, it became our theme song, and we sang it with the in with the inmates, the residents, multiple times.
01:03:53.760 -->
01:03:57.199And it's it's just a beautiful story, a beautiful song.
01:03:57.360 -->
01:04:05.360Before I play the song, I just want to mention there's a bigger story to this, but and I'll save that for a different time.
01:04:05.599 -->
01:04:16.000But the guy who wrote this song, Jelly Roll, he was at San Quentin prison this weekend, that the weekend that we were there, Ted.
01:04:16.159 -->
01:04:17.599He was doing a podcast.
01:04:18.480 -->
01:04:19.440That's crazy.
01:04:19.679 -->
01:04:36.320Yeah, and and so Bob and one of the brown card guys who has bigger more access to the prison, they were trying to let they were trying to find that where he was to say, dude, we we've got your you know, we're doing a kairos right now because Jelly Rose's big into this.
01:04:36.559 -->
01:04:37.920He's a big spiritual man now.
01:04:38.000 -->
01:04:40.239He's he's found God and all that other stuff.
01:04:40.320 -->
01:04:42.719And right, and it would have been so cool to connect.
01:04:42.880 -->
01:04:51.119We didn't make the the the personal connection, but he was on site, and and we all believe that this was a very divine thing that happened.
01:04:51.280 -->
01:04:59.679And and and had he known, if he had he gotten information where we're we we know for a fact he would have come over and just said hello to the boys, man.
01:04:59.760 -->
01:05:06.000But uh, and he just did a video in San Quentin, he just did a music video in San Quentin with another really cool song.
01:05:06.079 -->
01:05:08.719I'll I'll put in the show notes a link to as well.
01:05:08.960 -->
01:05:20.880But here's the song that we had for our weekend, and I wanted to say what an awesome demonstration of leadership, support, and love from every man and woman on the team.
01:05:20.960 -->
01:05:23.360And we all give glory and thanks to God for this.
01:05:23.440 -->
01:05:30.239So, with that said, I'm gonna go ahead and set up the song and get it rolling by Jelly Roll.
01:05:30.480 -->
01:05:31.599Here we go.
01:05:38.079 -->
01:05:59.840When the road is along, and my strength is gone when the night feels endless, and I don't belong, a gentle voice whispered.
01:06:02.880 -->
01:06:13.440Stronger than my feet, it's the Spirit of God Saint Child.
01:06:13.599 -->
01:06:54.320I am here when my faith is shaking, when I lose my soul, you remind me where I belong, Holy Spirit, give me heart be my faith, my breath my God with the dog that break it up, Holy Spirit, hear my cry.
01:06:55.199 -->
01:06:59.280Stay beside me through the night.
01:07:00.239 -->
01:07:03.920You are faithful through it all.
01:07:04.079 -->
01:07:06.639The spirit won't let me fall.
01:07:11.679 -->
01:07:12.320Wow.
01:07:12.880 -->
01:07:14.559So Ted, this is your turn, man.
01:07:14.639 -->
01:07:15.599You heard the song.
01:07:16.400 -->
01:07:16.880Beautiful.
01:07:17.519 -->
01:07:18.159Comments, man.
01:07:18.239 -->
01:07:19.199Any comments.
01:07:19.440 -->
01:07:26.719I mean, I can just see where that how that relates to those that you were in there speaking with.
01:07:27.039 -->
01:07:38.000And just that spirit within them and keeping them going when you know things seem hopeless.
01:07:38.559 -->
01:07:44.719I mean, having that spiritual health that you help provide them with this weekend.
01:07:45.039 -->
01:07:46.159You know, it's nice.
01:07:46.239 -->
01:07:59.519You're you're here on the podcast week in, week out, promoting physical health, and this weekend you got to step above that and share some spiritual health with them.
01:07:59.840 -->
01:08:02.559So appreciate the song.
01:08:02.800 -->
01:08:06.880And yeah, that that was really, really beautiful.
01:08:07.360 -->
01:08:21.439Well, thank you for the feedback, brother, and thank you for allowing me to share you this, because you're like you said, we're we're not a political podcast or religious podcast, but you're a human being and I'm a human being, and I think it's important people get to know a little more intimate parts of us.
01:08:21.520 -->
01:08:26.239What what moves us, what drives us, uh, because those leave clues for people, you know, those leave clues for people.
01:08:26.399 -->
01:08:32.640And not that you got to be like me or live life like me, but there's clues in a lot of people who've gone before us.
01:08:32.720 -->
01:08:35.279And so I appreciate the opportunity to share that, brother.
01:08:35.359 -->
01:08:36.720That was that's beautiful.
01:08:36.880 -->
01:08:37.119Yeah.
01:08:37.279 -->
01:08:38.560Well, thank you for sharing.
01:08:38.800 -->
01:08:39.520Yes, sir.
01:08:39.680 -->
01:08:43.600So what why don't you sign off like you always do?
01:08:43.920 -->
01:08:50.880I will sign off, but before I do, just one more shout out to Cairo 62, all the beautiful men and women, and my new brothers in blue.
01:08:51.119 -->
01:08:52.159God bless you all.
01:08:52.319 -->
01:08:53.119God bless you all.
01:08:53.279 -->
01:08:58.479So, with that said, there's nothing else to say, but God bless and peace out.
01:08:58.800 -->
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