LIVE Interview with Mark Murray (Ultra Flesh Archives, Rudy Ray Moore expert, etc)

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You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
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Ever have that one movie everyone assumes you've seen, but
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you haven't?
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You know, the one, the classic.
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The cult favorite, the how have you not seen that movie?
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Welcome to the Shameless Picture Show. Twice a month, I
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sit down with the guests who finally cross one of
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those films off our shame lists. Sometimes it's their first
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watch and sometimes it's mine, but sometimes.
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It's new for both of us.
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Then we die the characters, the craft, the cultural impact,
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and whether it actually lives up to the hype, from
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legendary classics to cult oddities to the films we somehow
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missed along the way. Join us as we turn movie
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shame into movie discussion. This is the Shame This Picture Show.
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Hello there, and welcome back.
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What is this place? Is connected? Disconnected?
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It's connected, disconnected.
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Disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected.
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Disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected, disconnected.
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I'm sorry to feel disconnected. The number that has been disconnected.
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Hey there, everyone, and welcome back to the Disconnected. Live
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with somebody that I've been trying to get to know
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a little bit over the last year or so. We've
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got Mark Murray from the Ultra Flesh Archives, from all
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things Rudy ray Moore over the years, and a handful
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of other places that if you've been hanging around this
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industry for a while you might recognize them. From Mark,
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Thanks for hanging.
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Out, Ryan, Thanks for having me. Before we start, though,
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I really want to say thank you for all the
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stuff that you're doing. You know, the advocacy you have
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for physical media, uh, you know, doing your your magazine,
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having a podcast network. Uh now, congratulations with antenna, you know,
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going into theatrical distribution. I mean you're you're out there,
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uh you know, in the trenches doing doing the work,
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you know, and we need more people like you. So
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thank you for for all that you're doing unexpected.
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Thank you, Thank you for recognizing that that's a big deal.
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Credit where credit is due, and same to you.
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We're going to get into a lot of that credit
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tonight because you've been toiling away with this for a
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long time for a lot of things that uh, much
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the chagrin of people like you and I has not
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gotten the attention that it's needed throughout the year. So
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we're we're going to talk about things like Rudy ray Moore,
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and loops and uh, some of these people that have
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been just completely forgotten the time, and you you have
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been somebody that has stuck up for that. So I mean,
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first of all, yeah, how did you get started in
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the industry to begin with? What is the first thing
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that happened there?
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Well, I mean we could go back to my early
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teen years, to be honest with you, So we're talking
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forty years in the past. You know, in junior high
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when I kind of discovered punk rock, and you know,
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I was already into like heavy metal and discovered death metal,
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and and just immediately the underground that was out there
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for you know, underground bands and bands that were doing
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tape trading and I was doing tape trading and and
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the networking that was then so amazing that is lost
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of course today. You know, no one really today kind
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of understands the idea of like writing somebody a letter
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and waiting a month for a response, you know, and
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that kind of inviting and that whole diy ethic of
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of you know, punk rock and the death metal underground
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of everybody just just it was all pure heart and
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uh that's that's where I realized that I fit in,
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you know, as a kid, I lived by my mailbox
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every day. I would run home from school. What do
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I get in the mail? Was it like a record
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or or or whatnot? You know, I started, Uh, I
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have a thirst obviously for all of this. So I
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kind of learned early on that if you are active
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with things, you get free stuff. So how do I
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You know, I'm a kid with a paper route. How
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can I afford tons of records? You know I can't,
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So so you start. I started like a little like
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music review newsletter, and I mailed it out to a
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bunch of record companies, and all of a sudden, I
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was getting records in the mail. I was like, wow,
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like this this stuff works, and and it turned into
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me doing like, you know, local fanzines, uh, you know,
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covering local bands in the area. You know, this is
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how immature and young I was. When I was go
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in in like eighth grade or ninth grade in high school,
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I would I would always get and it's it the
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ice cream, you know, sandwich at lunch. So I named
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my magazine It's a punk zine. You know. It was
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just after like, you know, my favorite thing to eat.
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You know, That's how that's how young I was, and
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how you know, innocent, everything was, and and it just
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get quickly blossomed because I have a like an energy
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that has to be utilized. It's just a kind of
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a force of nature. If I was able to focus
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that on one thing, you know, I'd be an invincible force.
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But I you know, I'm I'm I'm A D D
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and O C D and you know, and all this
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you know all the time, so you could probably relate
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to you know, I think you've even commented.
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It quite a bit too much.
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Yeah, yeah, some of your A D D issues and
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you know, we're all on the spectrum in some way
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or another anyways. But and then it blossomed into wanting
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to have like I started a cassette tape label when
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I was in junior. I had my first business license
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when I was like thirteen years old, and which was
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dumb because it was a nonprofit thing, so you don't
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need a business license for not you know, I was
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just a kid, of course, But it turned into I
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would just mail out a letter to all these bands
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that I would just see their addresses in the back
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of like Maximum rock and Roll and other underground scenes
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and just say, like, you know, I have a tape
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distribution label. You know, basically you're just giving me permission
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to make copies and sell your tape. And it's all
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the money goes back into doing this, you know, just
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to promote music. And I mean within a couple of years,
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I had I think ninety to one hundred tapes that
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I was selling from bands all over the world, including
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like death metal bands from Finland and Sweden and all
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kinds of stuff. And trying to make my stuff look
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more professional than just a blank tape. I would would
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I made photo copies of actual like labels, and I
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would you know, and I would take an exacto knife
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and I would cut them out, and I would take
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the cassette tape apart, and I would splice it exactly
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to the length of you know, the music, put it
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all back together, and then recorded it on the other side.
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And so I had all these you know, I was
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trying really hard to make something that looked professional, but
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with the resources of a thirteen fourteen year old, you know.
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And you know, like the greatest gift my dad ever
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bought me was a photo copier. You know. It was
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like the first job I like, like legit job that
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I had as a kid was because I needed to
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pay for maintenance on my photo copy machine. So the
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guy would you know, the guy would show up to like,
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you know, the townhouse I lived in with my mom
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and go up to some kids bedroom and be like,
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you know, he's expecting to go to some office complex
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and right, you know. So, so having like a photo copier,
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I was making my own magazines and stickers and all
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kinds of stuff that that you know, kids my age
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would have to be paying for. And so I just
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had free reign. You know, I'm passing out stickers at school.
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They're getting plastered all over the place, you know. So
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I had I had that, and when that became tedious,
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it was like, okay, well, you know, if I release
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records now I don't have to like assemble them and
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cut the tapes. And so when I was, you know,
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I was, I put out a couple seven inches of
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death metal bands, like around early nineteen ninety, like before
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I even had a driver's license, I had put out
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a couple of death metal records. The first couple were
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split label releases with a label called Relapse Records, which
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is actually a pretty huge metal label. Now, yeah, because
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we were friends from the tape trading and zines and
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all of that stuff. You know. Unfortunately, things soured for
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me and I had to abandon that just being a
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kid and child of divorce and family issues and such.
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You know, it kind of sabotaged my whole, my whole
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thing thing. I originally wanted to be self employed when
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I got out of high school. That was like my plan,
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like I don't ever want to have to work for somebody.
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But that's never totally happened. I'm still you know, slaving
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way to the man and and doing what I can
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to uh to do my thing, you know on the
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back end. But it just it graduated from from doing like,
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you know, a death metal zine and the records to
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doing a movie magazine called Shocking Images. And this was
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all like again in the mid nineties. That was like
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heavily like euro cult based, you know, Luccio Fulci and Argento,
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you know, I mean, I live and die by by
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you know, all that stuff. I mean, I'm covered in
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Fulci and Argento tattoos and dolomite and and all this
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kind of stuff. Like I literally where my you know,
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loves on my sleeve. You know, I mean you've got
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you know, Devo and and the Misfits. I mean I
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even have an X rating on my arm, you know,
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like so it's like it's it's it's it's in my
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my blood, it's my DNA. And then I started doing
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the zine and then the kind of like you know,
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the gray market videotape period back in the mid nineties
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when before DVD was out, and started you know, doing that,
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and it blossomed into doing a like a full on
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mail order thing, which is actually an interesting story because
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in the mid nineties I worked for Tower Records and
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we would get an employee discount, and I don't ever
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recall seeing anything in our you know, company policy that
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would determine what you did with the things that you
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bought on your company discount. So coincidentally, I was a
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buyer at the store. So what I would do is
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I would buy my stock, you know, and leave it
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as understock at the store and put it online for sale,
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and then as I needed it, I just bought it
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at work on my discount and then mailed it out
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the next day, you know, from home. So I had
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like a ton of stuff that that was available to
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me I mean this was I may have been like
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the main source for like Goblin CDs in the mid nineties,
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those imports and stuff, because I could get them through
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through work, uh you know, and with no no you know,
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front expenses. You know. The boss would go by and go,
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what do we have all this stuff down here for?
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And I'd be like, don't worry about it, you know,
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and I bought it all, you know, just keep yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
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just just look away, you know. And we had a
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video distributor here in town as well, so it built
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up where I could just put all their all the
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new releases online and ready to order, you know. And
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I just would just drive down the street and pick
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up my stock every week, you know, and do that.
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And and I did that for for a few years,
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and uh, you know, it was fun. It was a
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lot of work, but my profit margin was so small,
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you know, it was hard for me to maintain. And
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this was also at the time when Anchor Bay was
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kind of starting up full speed and you know, we're
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getting uh, you know, VHS tapes and DVDs in the
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early image releases, and so it was kind of like
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at the beginning of that and that kind of fell
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apart and and then it's like, okay, what's next. And
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you know, I was working on my rou De ray
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More book, which we can kind of talk about, you know,
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uh as well, and it it blossomed into doing another
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zine called film Fanadict. I'm I'm a fan of like
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alliterations and you know kind of a you know, it
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was fan addict, so it was like a play on words.
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And I did that for three issues and and and
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that kind of dissolved just mostly because it's it's a
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ton of work, which which you know, you know, luckily
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I had an editing partner, Nathan Pazen to my brother
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to me, who was h you know, like I couldn't
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have done what I did on that without him and
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a couple other writers doing reviews and things. And uh,
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by the third issue it was you know, full glossy
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and uh, I think it was like Ingram or whoever
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the main it might have even been Diamond, I don't remember.
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in their new release catalog and then they come back
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that's it. Yeah, a hundred issues is all that the
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nation would want out of, you know this, And and
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that issue was a nice issue, was like a Dune issued,
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had like an amazing cover, and it was a bunch
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of stuff about Dune and you know other things in
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there as well, cult stuff, and so I just got
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really disappointed by that. You know. It was just like, really,
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that's that's all that all that I could get out
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of that. So that really deflated me, you know. And
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then I was still working on the Rue de ray
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More book. It was a thirty year project, and we
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can kind of go back to the beginning of that
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if you want to. Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a
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lot a lot of stuff here. I'm probably forgetting things too,
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you know. Even as a kid, when I was doing
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the punk rock tapes, I worked on a public access channel.
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where we just record the record the local bands. And
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I did a commercial, you know, like for my little
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punk rock tape label that you know, ten people in
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town probably saw or whoever I told at school that
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you know, I'm gonna be on TV Tonight or whatever.
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and uh, that was like my genius idea, that this
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is going to make me enough money to be able
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to publish my Rootery More book. But of course you
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start one project and it takes it's a drain on
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your time, and it takes away from another thing, which
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is a lesson that I never ever learned, you know.
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And so I started doing the the bibbleheads and I
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did seven of them, and uh, you know, and always
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I'm I'm always kind of disappointed in the level of support.
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on the face of the earth. And that's that's usually
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my my core motivation is like why doesn't that exist?
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I want that? So I'm dumb enough to go make
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it and sit with a garage full of them for
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years on end, you know, and I just wonder, like,
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you know what, you know, kind of you get so
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it's kind of self defeating, like what what is it
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that I'm not doing correctly here? Like what what are
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people not you know, connecting with I always joked that
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if I was to be buried. You know, my my
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headstone once say here lies the man that made all
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the cool stuff that nobody bought. You know, like it's
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kind of self deprecating, but you know sometimes you feel
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like that. You know. It's like and and one of
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my core philosophies is you you have to support the
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things that you love or they disappee, and that requires cash.
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You know, there's so much stuff I spend money on
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that I probably should not. I got piles of things
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that I'm never going to have time to to, you know,
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to to look at or or watch or read. But
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it exists, and I want it to be there to
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you know, I want it to exist for myself and
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for other people, so I have to support it. So
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now I'm kind of like, okay, people, where's the reciprocity?
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You know, like is the universe going to bring some
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of that, you know, back towards me? But like the Bibbleheads,
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if I could show you a couple of them, yeah,
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they were they were really cool.
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Looking back now, I really want to go back and
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get a whole series of them. They're they're pretty, like
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really detailed, they're really nice.
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So the the the idea originally started because, uh, there's
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a guy named Clint Wiler. He has a company called Agronautics.
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So Agronautics started doing punk rock bibble heads and he
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did like g g Allen and Milo from The Descendants
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and Joe Queer from the Queers and you know, and
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and Devo and all this stuff, and and I had
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mentioned to him, I said, hey, what if how about
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you do a Dolomite one. I could totally make that
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connection and make that happen for you. And he's like, well,
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I'm just sticking with music. He goes, why don't you
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do it? So okay, yeah, I'll do it, I guess.
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He just he just like you know, mentored me and
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said here's where I go and here's kind of the process,
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and you know, have at it. And you know, the
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first one I did was Black Devil Doll from the
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the Lewis Brothers movie that they did, you know, the
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totally offensive and and you know whatever movie. Yeah, it
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was a it was a it was a cool movie
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and a fun thing to do. And then I did
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the the Jiretta Jiretta Demon Doll, which was like her
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from Demons, and it had the little mask that you know,
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I even licensed the mask from Sir Justiviletti, who who
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you know, created that design. The couple of the ones
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that like, I'm super proud of. I did this with
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with Grindhouse releasing with Bob Morosky. This is a basically
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the beyond. This is Jill who you know gets her
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head blown off in the in the movie or head
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caved in. So I'm ninety nine point nine percent positive
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that this is the first, if not that still the
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only bibble head with two faces. So she's got the
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blood flood here. So if you're familiar with the movie,
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when she's in the hospital room, that looks like slurpees,
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you know, rolling down at her. So she's got that here,
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and you have the before which is here, and then
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actually this pops off and now you have the the
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caved in damaged head. So it's got a little magnet
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inside here in the in the black area, and so
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it just attaches like that and you can hardly even tell. Yeah,
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it's two faces. And the box itself was the book
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of a bonn and it had like a little open
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opening flap that Stephen Romano if you're familiar with him,
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did the work for which was really cool. Uh. And
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I also with Bob at Grindhouse did Cat in the Brain.
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So I did Luccio Fulci himself, which huge honor. You know,
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whether you like bibbleheads or not, I made the foul
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Chi bibblehead you so, yes, So this was cool, you know,
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I was really excited to do that. These were all
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a thousand and they're all numbered on the bottom, you know.
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which was this, which also has a punching action. So
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and then I and I stole that from Agronautics too,
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because he did a Keith Morris from the Circle Jerks
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and he was pointing at his head like, you know,
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think for yourself, and so I said, well I can
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take that, and you know, blatantly told, you know, Clint
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Ham'm go and to steal your idea. You know, at
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least I can make punching action on on Dola mark
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and this this one was cool. And uh, you know
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another one that I was proud of too, and I
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only made two hundred and fifty of these, but you
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know I also did rolling yeah, so you know, that
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was my tribute to him. I ran his website for
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for many years back in the nineties, and uh, this
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one was really cool. And it also came with a
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film strip from Grapes of Death. I had a trailer
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that it was it was I believe it was an
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incomplete trailer that his son, SERGEI had and he sent
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me the the film and I just chopped it up
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and put it in little envelopes and and you know,
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and and and that was a lot of fun. And
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then it just kind of like, you know, it kind
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of ran its course. Yeah, you know, and then and
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then I was I was more focused on getting the
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Rudy ray Moore book going and if you want, I
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can kind of.
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So yeah, I mean, let's go for those that don't know,
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you know, Vinegar Syndrome had their time with the Rudy
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ray Moore cycle, they went through what they put up
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four of his film Draint. Yeah, and then, uh, of course,
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like right after that, Vinegar Syndrome seemed to be a
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little bit of the resurgence that got people interested in
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him again, and so Netflix commissioned this Dolomite is My
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Name film. Eddie Murphy came back. You were involved a
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little bit of the stuff behind that. But man, before
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we get into all the Dolomite stuff, let's talk about
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this incredible book. This thing is great, Like it's a
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really really well written book. You can tell, like this
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is somebody's life had to go into this. It is
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so thoughtfully researched and put together. It is really nice book. Again,
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I believe most of that was put out with Bob
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from Grindhouse, Right, you worked on that for the release.
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He So it was a Kickstarter yeah, and I think
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I announced it on like Rudy's birthday, you know, March
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of that year, and it was a month long thing.
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And I had budgeted it out to about twelve hundred
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books and it was supposed to be paperback and I
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was looking to get I think it was thirty three
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thousand dollars, and people thought I was out of my mind,
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uh be being stubborn. It had to be done a
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certain way, and it was you know, it's all or
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nothing when you're on Kickstarter, so you know, as crappy
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as it is, they have to do everything on your own.
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You know, there is a sense of pride when you've
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accomplished something, of course, and from day one when I
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knew I was going to write this book, and when
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I started it, in the back of my head, I
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always knew that the ultimate tribute to Rudy would be
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to do it myself, because he did all of his
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own stuff himself. So like, how appropriate, you know, would
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that be? Even though it was you know, grueling, but
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it was.
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Uh.
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It was a thirty day Kickstarter and it started out
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really you know, it starts out well and then after
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a few days, you know, maybe like five days or so,
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you know, things start to slow down and you auto
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that start panicking. You know, it's like wow, you know,
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and you start you're you're doing math every day, like
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I'll have you know, I got X amount of days
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left in this amount, and I need to make this
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amount every single day. And then the next day it's like, okay,
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I need to make more money now every day and
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it's just not coming in. So one thing that I
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will say to anybody out there, whoever does anything on Kickstarter,
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don't wait till the last minute. Put your money in
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immediately get the momentum going, because if you don't, people
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just look at and go, ah, this isn't going to
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go anywhere, So why am I going to even bother
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you know, whether or not they get charged or not
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is not the not the you know, main purpose or
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their their main focus. It's just like, I feel like
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I'm wasting my time if you know, if I if I,
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if I do this, it's not it's nothing's going to happen. So,
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you know, it was, it was. It was horrific, to
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be perfectly honest with you. People told me I was
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out of my mind. You know, why do you need
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so much money? And uh, you know, also at the
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same time, I mean, shouldn't I be able to make
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a couple bucks out of it? It wasn't gonna you know,
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pay my mortgage for a year or anything like that.
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But I mean, I spent thirty years of my life
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working on this book, and you know, thousands and thousands
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of hours and tens of thousands of dollars and you know, uh,
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you know on all the things that it took to
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do that. You know, I should get a couple of
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bucks out of it. And you and then you start
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like it's it's it's begging. It's cyber begging. You're going
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and you're just you're sending your I Am and everybody,
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people you don't even know, hoping that you can just get,
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you know, something to go viral, you know. I mean
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I did, like uh, sports radio show interviews and anything
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I could get, you know, just to you know, shock
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jock guys, you know, trying to pre more. Yeah, you know,
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tell us something we don't know. And uh, uh you know,
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it's it's it's it's horrible.
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I don't know if I said this already, but it
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was probably the third worst thing I've ever gone through
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in my life, besides divorce and buying a first house. Uh.
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I you know, you got to have a strong stomach
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if you're gonna go uh, you know, go with that.
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And then you see other projects that pop up and
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they're like funded in three days, and it's like, you know,
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like you know, what what am I missing here?
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You know?
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00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.359
But you know, I pretty much in the first few days,
477
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:09.759
I just said the hardback was a stretch goal, and
478
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.240
then I just said, screw it, it should be hard
479
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:13.359
back anyway, and so I just said it's it's now hardback,
480
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.559
so you know, put your money in and uh. And
481
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:20.920
I also was running a old school comedy label at
482
00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:23.119
the same time. Uh, that's another thing. I had a
483
00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.720
small like punk label and that that dissolved real fast,
484
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.960
but also had a comedy label that I was licensing
485
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.519
old seventies UH comedy albums by like Lee Roy and Skillett,
486
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:39.000
including the Wanda Page and others, Jimmy Lynch who was
487
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:41.880
in some of Ruder Relmore's movies. And I still have
488
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.000
the the UH licensing to those and they're they're just
489
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:47.559
on streaming. You know, it makes pennies every month, but
490
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.240
you know it's it's out there for people to you know,
491
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:53.200
to see it. So you know, given given the the
492
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:58.200
UH downloads away was part of the the add ons
493
00:25:58.200 --> 00:25:59.680
that you could have, and you know, I had a
494
00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:01.720
bunch of cool stuff. I also had tons of the
495
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:03.680
Blu rays that were out so you could add those,
496
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.200
and and CDs and LPs and so I had a
497
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.359
lot of stuff to include. You know, you kind of
498
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.160
feel like you're giving away the farm every time just
499
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:13.640
to get people to support.
500
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.279
On top of all the fees and all that too.
501
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:17.720
Yeah, you know, yeah, people don't realize it that they're
502
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:19.720
going to take ten percent off the top. You also,
503
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.279
you know, your shipping's in there as well, and you know,
504
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:25.039
I cost thousands of dollars to ship all that stuff.
505
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:29.680
The man hours, right, uh, you know, so it got
506
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.400
down to the wire and it was getting really close,
507
00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:34.079
and you know, I'm sitting there going, man, you know,
508
00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:37.240
I'm like five grand away or six grand away, and
509
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.519
I got like two days left. You know. Even my
510
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.160
wife is like, I'll you know, I'll pay for it,
511
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:42.920
and it's and I was like, no, if we pay
512
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:47.079
for it, like it didn't happen, you know, like there's
513
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.119
there's got to be more than you know, seven hundred
514
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.200
ru deree more fans out there. I mean, come on, so,
515
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:57.319
you know, and every day I was just just militantly,
516
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.319
you know, promoting this. You know, I was going to
517
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:02.799
be devastated if it didn't go through. And then all
518
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.440
of a sudden, you know, I had an aunt who
519
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:07.400
just was like, oh, here's you know, here's the rest
520
00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:09.920
of the money that you need, you know, to to
521
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.720
do this. I want you to achieve your dream. And
522
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.680
it was like, oh my god, like you know, amazing,
523
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:17.519
and you know, and and then it was kind of
524
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.799
funny because Bob from Grindhouse was like, well, well, you know,
525
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:22.000
now I don't have to pay for it. You know,
526
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:27.359
because Bob's a huge, huge Rudy ray Moore fan. Most
527
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:29.319
people don't know this, but after he won his Oscar,
528
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:32.640
they have like a backstage thank you cam where you
529
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.079
can say whatever you want, and you know, he thanked
530
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.000
Ruder Ray Moore and Duke Mitchell. You know, that was
531
00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:41.039
like his his his his final thank yous. I think
532
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:43.279
even today, Ruder ray Moore is still thanked on every
533
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.559
single Grindhouse release as well. So Bob was like, you
534
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.039
have to make more and I was like, well, what
535
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.119
you know, I don't. I don't have the sales for it.
536
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.240
I don't want a garage full of books. And I said,
537
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:55.799
if you want them, you pay for them and you
538
00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.480
sell them, and he goes, okay. So he he took
539
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:05.599
eight hundred, which made two thousand, the full the full amount,
540
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:10.039
you know, and and it's I am proud of that book.
541
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.279
That's that's you know, if there's one thing in my
542
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:17.319
life that is like, you know, you put that in
543
00:28:17.319 --> 00:28:23.359
in my you know, obituary, like that is. Yeah. I
544
00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:26.720
didn't care how long it took. I discovered Rudy when
545
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:29.759
I was seventeen. A friend of mine called me and said, dude,
546
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.880
you have to see this crazy movie. I said, okay,
547
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.160
I drove over. He passed the movie out of his
548
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.680
bedroom window. I didn't even turn the car off, you know,
549
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:40.920
I just grabbed the movie, went home, and I watched
550
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:46.759
Dolomite and just boom, just what in the world is this?
551
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.519
You know, you you've never seen anything like this. And
552
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.799
I just immediately was like, who is this guy? What
553
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:59.759
is this? You know? And and there's no no frame
554
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.880
of reference at all. I have no idea about anything
555
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.000
other than just what I just saw. I don't even
556
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.599
really realize that he's a comedian, that he has albums out,
557
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.200
you know, in other films, and he was a singer,
558
00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.160
and you know, I mean there's hints to that of
559
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.119
course in the movie and if you watch the credits
560
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.680
and stuff. But it was like, okay, well where do
561
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:20.839
I start, you know.
562
00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.079
With somebody like him. He was, he was a force.
563
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:26.519
It's well, it's nineteen ninety one again, you know, I'm
564
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:29.400
an old fart. You couldn't just use Google.
565
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:29.640
You know.
566
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.400
And I started finding little references to him in things
567
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:36.839
like movie review guides, and you know, there'd be like
568
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.359
a review, a really negative review of something that he did,
569
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.079
and like shocks in him, you know, saying like he
570
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.160
was like a bloated ego trip or something, you know,
571
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:47.039
and all this kind of stuff. And yes, Rudy had
572
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:52.599
an ego. And so within I think about a year,
573
00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.119
someone called me and said, hey, I found this address.
574
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.480
Maybe it's Rudy ray Moore's. And so I wrote to
575
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:01.720
it and I just and I was doing my little
576
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.680
Shocking Images zine back then, and I just wrote a
577
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.960
letter and said would you be interested in doing an interview?
578
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.559
And he wrote back and just said yes, and had
579
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:13.640
like his business card in there with his phone number,
580
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.039
and I knew nothing. The first interview that I did
581
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:24.960
with him was embarrassing because I hadn't I didn't know anything.
582
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.759
I mean, I was I think it was nineteen when
583
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.319
I did that interview. So two years after I discovered him,
584
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:35.359
you know, I'm running around work going I just talked
585
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:37.240
to Rudy more like I just like, you know, was
586
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:40.119
touched by God. And everyone's like, who is that? You know,
587
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.319
and it's like, too, this is like the greatest day
588
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:48.000
of my life. And it just it morphed into like
589
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.079
because I was so frustrated not being able to get
590
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.559
information on him. And his career, and he was still
591
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:55.680
performing and doing little club events and stuff. And I
592
00:30:55.680 --> 00:30:58.039
was like, well, you know, how about I just start
593
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.240
a website for you, Rudy. And you know, that's how
594
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:05.519
ruder Moore uh dot com started and uh, he didn't
595
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:10.200
even know. You know, Rudy, it is most technologically advanced
596
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.720
at a fax machine in the you know, in the
597
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.039
room at his retirement community, you know, like he had
598
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.039
no concept of computers and such. And he was actually
599
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.359
in town and I brought him over to my crappy
600
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.640
little apartment and I tried. I showed him the website
601
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:29.480
and uh, you know, I actually have a contract from
602
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.519
him that says I'm the only official rud Remore website,
603
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.799
you know, which I think is funny. And uh so
604
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:39.240
I'm showing it to him and he's just not understanding.
605
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.480
And I just said, think of this like a digital book.
606
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:43.920
You know, this is our table of contents here, and
607
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:46.039
when we click on this, it takes us to this chapter,
608
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.559
you know, and vice versa. And he was like, okay, whatever,
609
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.599
you know, you do what you're doing. And so so
610
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.640
I would maintain that and put news and things up there.
611
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:56.759
And then I was like, you know, Rudy, I want
612
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.519
to write a you need to have a book about yourself.
613
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.680
And there was something that had come out. It was
614
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.559
basically like a long interview that was turned into like
615
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:09.559
a booklet. I wouldn't even consider it a book. So
616
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:11.920
it was like, you know, twenty pages worth of a
617
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.799
transcribed interview and then a bunch of his routines transcribed
618
00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:21.319
nothing of any real to me significant substance. It was
619
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.759
all the same stuff, you know. And I started to
620
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:29.559
learn that Rudy would just repeat the same stories. And
621
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:31.079
he said, well, there's already a book about me, And
622
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:32.880
I said, I don't consider that a book that doesn't
623
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.519
tell me, It doesn't talk about it all, it doesn't
624
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:39.359
talk about anything really, and so he was like okay.
625
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.279
I just basically like beat him down until he agreed
626
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:48.359
to do it. And then so I just started, you know,
627
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.880
trying to interview him. And I realized really quickly that
628
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.960
approaching him like you're doing an interview was just automatically
629
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:01.680
like exhausting for him. He didn't want, you know, yeah,
630
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:04.799
So so I just learned to just call him and
631
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.359
just just talk. I'd ask him the questions, but it
632
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:12.880
wouldn't have this like we're doing an interview, you know, yeah, yeah,
633
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.759
And you know, I said, rude, I'm just gonna record,
634
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.640
you know, from my notes and stuff, and okay, And so,
635
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:19.720
you know, we talk and talk and talk, and he
636
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.640
give me a lot of the same canned answers that
637
00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:23.880
he was given out in all the interviews, because again,
638
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.759
everybody else interviewing him didn't know anything about him either
639
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.960
other than the same thing that they had read over
640
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:30.720
and over and over, right, so they just asking him
641
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.880
the same questions, you know, and he's never even talking
642
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.279
about all of his like singing career and stuff from
643
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.519
the fifties and sixties and all the forty fives that
644
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:41.960
he had and and all of these things. And so
645
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.640
when I finally like started getting all those things, you know,
646
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:49.880
some days he would be very uh, talkative, but most
647
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:54.680
of the time he'd be grumpy and uncooperative and uh.
648
00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:59.799
And I also learned that I kind of had to force,
649
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.000
you know, And so I keep asking him, and I'd
650
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:06.000
ask him and he would tell me things, and and
651
00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.880
he would tell me lies too. And you know, the
652
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.800
whole purpose of doing the website was to put accurate
653
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.960
information out there, because I was frustrated on not having
654
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.679
access to anything that was accurate, and so the first
655
00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:22.280
time we spoke, he gave me his birth date and
656
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.239
that wasn't a lie already. So you know, I put
657
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.800
that up on the website because that's that's what he
658
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.079
you know, in his body from his mouth. Yeah, yeah,
659
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.639
that's what Dolamite told me. And then and then as
660
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.400
I started getting more into it, he was like, you know,
661
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.400
I was in the military at this time, and I'm like, okay, now,
662
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.960
hold on, Rudy, if you were in the military at
663
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.280
this age and this date, there's no way you were born,
664
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.119
you know. So he was, you know, fudging the numbers.
665
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:49.840
And then he'd get mad and go, I don't know
666
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.760
why this is important, you know, and it's like all
667
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.679
of this is important, Rudy, it's you know, to document
668
00:34:55.760 --> 00:35:01.079
your life. And so sometimes he would he'd get angry
669
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.679
at me and he'd just he'd just go off. He'd
670
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.480
just you know, I don't know, I don't want to
671
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:08.280
talk about this, and you know, all this stuff gives
672
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.280
me so much pain, and he had a lot of
673
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:14.079
pain from the struggles of what he did. Some days
674
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.039
he would be very proud, you know, he could be like,
675
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.920
you know, yeah, I I spent one hundred and ten
676
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.239
thousand dollars, one hundred and forty thousand dollars and made
677
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.360
dolomite and it made millions. You know, he'd be proud
678
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.199
of that, and then there'd be days where he would be,
679
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:33.039
you know, he didn't want to like he was embarrassed
680
00:35:33.039 --> 00:35:35.639
that it cost one hundred and forty thousand dollars, you know,
681
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.239
because people look at that, and I was like, dude,
682
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.880
that's chump change, Like that's not even a catering bill
683
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:45.159
on some some movies, you know. So so he'd yell
684
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:47.679
at me for a while, and then after he ran
685
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.519
out of steam, i'd really get the truth out of him.
686
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.800
It's like I had to wear him down, and then
687
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.159
he would he would open up, you know. I mean
688
00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:57.480
we sat and had weird conversations. I don't say weird,
689
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.239
and you know they were crazy, but you know, we
690
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.239
would say he was a fan of Bela Lugosi, like
691
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.400
I have a Bella Lagos. He related a tattoo, and
692
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.480
we talk about you know, oh you like bell Lagosi,
693
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.800
and you know, and we would talk about race, you know,
694
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:12.960
race related things, and and you know, because I mean,
695
00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:15.719
I'm a scrawny white guy with a bald head and tattoos,
696
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.760
and people have accused me of being like a skinhead
697
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:20.000
and all this other stupid stuff in my life. And
698
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.599
you know, I mean, uh, and he he would say, like,
699
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.480
you know, he would ask me about stuff like that.
700
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:27.159
You know, people judge you, and like every people judge
701
00:36:27.199 --> 00:36:30.360
me all the time. They're judging everybody's judging everybody unfortunately,
702
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.719
you know. And then this kind of goes along with
703
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.119
that where he was doing a performance one time and
704
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:41.639
I was in the audience, and and Rudy, Rudy never
705
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:43.800
really performed on stage. He would walk the crowd and
706
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.639
he'd get in people's faces and he'd tell jokes and
707
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:48.199
put the microphone in their face and you know, like
708
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:51.000
really like you know, embarrassed women and all kinds of
709
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.719
stuff like it. You know, and you know, he came
710
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.960
over and he said a joke on me, and you know,
711
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.639
something vulgar, and it was like, you know, oh, Rudy
712
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.800
Raymore just capped on me like hell yeah, you know,
713
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.039
like but yeah, but it was funny because I'm sitting
714
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:06.920
there with like a couple other people, a couple of
715
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.840
other white guys. One dude's got dreadlocks, and he's covered
716
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:11.719
in tattoos, you know, on his neck and everything. And
717
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.679
I've got tattoos on my neck, and and uh, you
718
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.920
kind of feel like the stairs because we're the only
719
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.599
white guys in the crowd. And I don't know if
720
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.079
Rudy sensed that or anything, but he just breaks out
721
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.440
in the middle of the performance and goes, hey, does
722
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.280
everybody here know my friend Mark, you know, he runs
723
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:30.639
my website and all this stuff, and and all of
724
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:33.440
a sudden, I was like, what up, homie, you know,
725
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.920
like everybody like after the after the performance, it was
726
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:40.800
like hanging around Rudy's merch table, was like, dude, man, yeah,
727
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:43.360
you know Dolomite. You know, it's like this crazy idea
728
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:47.239
that this you know, white dude. You know, I have
729
00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.119
a shirt on, like a Ruder Rae More shirt, and
730
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.880
somebody be like, man, what do you know about Dolomite?
731
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.000
And be like you'd be surprised, you know, like he's
732
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:56.800
I can call him right now if you want to.
733
00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.480
You want to talk to him, you know, But it
734
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.159
just it went on and on and on, and I
735
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:07.840
couldn't get all the details that I wanted, and I
736
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.280
also knew that that there's so much in his life
737
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:14.360
that needs to be covered, and writing a book is
738
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.960
I mean, I can't explain how draining and you know,
739
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.440
how difficult. There was many times I burst out in tears.
740
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.320
I wanted to give up, you know, and it's just
741
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.719
it can destroy you, especially the way I work, which
742
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:36.440
is unfortunate because I will spend hours doing research to
743
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:39.800
write two sentences. And that's why it took thirty years,
744
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.639
because you can't just I mean, especially if you're writing
745
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.400
someone's life story. You know, I'm not going to try
746
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:50.760
to speculate on things. I'm not going to try to
747
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:56.159
you know, just well you know, maybe I'm missing a
748
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.559
segue into something else, like let me just make up
749
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.639
something here, or or you know, sometimes you read books
750
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:03.800
and it's and and I just go, man, this is
751
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.360
such garbage. This is not you know, it'll be like,
752
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.760
you know, it'll have some passage where it's it's like
753
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:14.639
like the guy's walking the subject of the book is
754
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.800
walking down the street and he's talking to himself in
755
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:18.599
his head, and it's like, dude, you're just making all
756
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:20.280
this stuff up. This is not something you know, like
757
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.880
This is not a you know, a dramatization, you know,
758
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.599
is you're putt you're kind of like adding this fictitious,
759
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.360
uh you know, portion to it. So that always irritated me.
760
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:34.840
And I wanted every single word in that book to count.
761
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.880
I didn't want any superfluous crap in there. I wasn't
762
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:43.519
trying to fill pages. But you have to also, I'm
763
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.280
not I'm not from the South, you know, I'm not.
764
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.960
I'm not someone who was burdened by racial discriminations and
765
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.119
things and and and uh, all of the stuff that
766
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.559
that he had to go through. You know, I don't
767
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:01.079
know exactly what the Chitlin circuit is. You know, there's
768
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:04.760
so many things like so to do this, you have
769
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.840
to go, Okay, where was he born, What was going
770
00:40:07.880 --> 00:40:09.880
on at that time when he was born, What was
771
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.519
the cultural environment in the area he was at? What
772
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.880
are all the things that he had to experience? You
773
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.159
know when he went here? What was going on there? Okay?
774
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:20.440
He was he was performing at a club. Okay, so
775
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:23.760
what what is insignificant about you know, what is significant
776
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.559
about that club? So you have to you know, tons
777
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.800
of footnotes where the reason why the Birdland is famous
778
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.719
is this the reason why you know this R and
779
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:36.920
B singer. You know, you have to put all these
780
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.360
things cause people aren't going to know those. You could
781
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:42.280
just rattle off that he worked with this guy, this guy,
782
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.119
this guy, this guy, But what's the significance. Yeah, everybody's
783
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:48.719
going to know James Brown, you know, but also what's
784
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.440
the significance with him and James Brown? Like where do
785
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:55.840
they really fit together? So everything had to have like
786
00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:03.079
definitive context for me, and that is grueling, just.
787
00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.800
As somebody that's an unreliable narrator, especially somebody that didn't
788
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.039
have much reference out there before you even start on
789
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:10.559
the project.
790
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.599
And he died in two thousand and eight, so the
791
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.039
you know, two thirds of the time I'm working on
792
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:22.159
this book or more, you know, he's he's passed. But
793
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.039
the thing that made it made it what it was,
794
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:27.679
other than taking thirty years, was the fact that I
795
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.320
started it so early, and I was lucky enough to
796
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.360
interview pretty much everybody that was in his inner circle.
797
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.320
Most of them have all have all passed now, unfortunately,
798
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.360
and I became very close friends with a lot of
799
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.000
them too, you know, even so much as like you know,
800
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.559
staying at their house when I'm in town, and you know,
801
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.599
I mean it was like amazing just to meet these
802
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:56.760
people and having all of that was like the key.
803
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:02.519
And especially when when Rudy passed, I go back and
804
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.039
reinterview those people, and the dialogue would be different, so
805
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:11.760
they would be more open to truths and and things.
806
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.360
And and I think the reason why that was is
807
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.960
that that, you know, Rudy always brought his friends in
808
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:19.480
to do all of his projects, and I think that
809
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.960
they didn't want to ruffle Rudy's feathers, right, So there
810
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.280
may be a chance, you know, Rudy get another movie rolling.
811
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.840
You know, Rudy always somehow makes things happen. You know,
812
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.079
maybe we can be a part of that that that
813
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:33.679
film or whatever that project is. So I got more
814
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:39.000
more truths out of out of people. And and I
815
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.519
want to vent on something here if you don't mind,
816
00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:46.920
because it's something that just just really really angers me.
817
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.159
And uh, and some of it is just my own
818
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.320
fault because I've always felt that I was Rudy's protector.
819
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:00.920
You know, I'm probably gonna get emotional. He's a very
820
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:07.519
important person to me. And one of the almost said
821
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:10.079
a bad word. Oh my god, we're live of one
822
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.280
of one of the crappy things that's been happening, by
823
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.199
the way, Okay, all right, one of the shitty things
824
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:21.559
that has been happening since he passed is, uh, you know,
825
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.639
people commenting that he he was gay. Okay, So what
826
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:31.199
you know. I I knew that I wanted to kind
827
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.599
of be the one to break that news because I
828
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.760
felt that I would I would be the appropriate, the
829
00:43:38.760 --> 00:43:40.719
the way that I would do it would be appropriate,
830
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:44.960
not judgmental or anything like that. And and and you
831
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.119
know in my book, uh, it's in the introduction, like
832
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.000
let's just get this out of the way. So what
833
00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:57.239
you know, And you know, since he's passed, there's there's
834
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.199
been all these like really ridiculous you know, the secret
835
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.880
Rudy Raymore took to his grave. You know, these really
836
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:09.639
just garbage clickbait things on YouTube and stuff. And there
837
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.039
was one, you know, my Google notifications, I get them
838
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.280
all day long, you know, Rudy ray Moore and whatever
839
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:18.079
my interests are and what I'm doing, you know, and
840
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.039
so I'll click on them and for the longest time,
841
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.320
you know, I listen to these podcasts and I get angry.
842
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.199
I like it's this is just so inaccurate, like you know,
843
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:29.360
and it just just make me mad. And you know,
844
00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:33.519
I can't control everybody's comments, you know, And it's like
845
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:35.920
I fought so hard to get all the accurate information
846
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.400
and there's people out there just viewing garbage. But this
847
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:40.679
one that came up the other day, I didn't listen
848
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.079
to it. But their graphic that they use on their
849
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:48.480
their you know, for the video on YouTube, is a
850
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:57.000
AI generated photo of Rudy kissing another man. It's just
851
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:04.000
so disrespectful, you know, the that people would stoop to
852
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:09.960
that for some stupid clickbait, you know, And I mean
853
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:15.000
it makes me furious, but you know, there's nothing I
854
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.719
could do about it. Yeah, Like I said, I'm going
855
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:19.480
to get emotional.
856
00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.239
The the amount of respect in the book alone is
857
00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:28.320
so easy for somebody to google and do some research
858
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.760
that there's now, you know, some compiled stuff out there.
859
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:32.760
You've been one of the harbingers of some of this
860
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.000
information with his website and with some of the actual
861
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.079
other film historians that have gone through the trouble of
862
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.519
making sure that his legacy is saved in a way
863
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.559
that's not fucking AI generated that like this bullshit is
864
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.840
it's ruining so many different things.
865
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:49.599
It's you know, it's you know, I was telling my
866
00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:51.280
wife and you know, I'm like, I just want to
867
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.800
go on their comments and just lay into them. But
868
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:56.840
you know, I mean, I'm I'm better than that, you know,
869
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.079
even though I'm venting right now.
870
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.840
But it's just like me, I'm not better than that.
871
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:06.039
You know. It's and bothered to listen to it. You know.
872
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.760
Andy even says in the description, like basically they said
873
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:11.360
everything in here would be just total bullshit, you know,
874
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:16.000
like you know, and it's it's just you know, please
875
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:23.039
people be better, you know. So anyways, but I had
876
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.480
all those interviews with everybody, and and you know, uh,
877
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:29.400
I was in you know, I was I was officially
878
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.800
a brother to you know, know I was. I was,
879
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.559
you know, an honorary brother. You know. I was brought
880
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.199
into the fold, and uh, you know, was was told everything,
881
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.800
and but it took Part of the reason why it
882
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:42.760
took so long was just because I wanted every I
883
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.320
had to have every bit of information. I'm not necessarily
884
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.679
a fan of of you know, third version, you know,
885
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.199
newly revised or whatever. It was, Like people would people
886
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:56.519
would say, how can you claim to be Rudby's biographer
887
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.400
when you've never put the book out, you know, well,
888
00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.199
it's come. I used to my my catch phrase was
889
00:47:02.239 --> 00:47:04.000
I'd rather be right than.
890
00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:05.760
Rushed to be exhaustive.
891
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.360
Yeah. So, and there were things that had to be completed,
892
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.519
you know, there were there were certain areas of information
893
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:14.679
that I didn't have access to that later I did,
894
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.800
so I was able to you know, get those final pieces.
895
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.159
And then you know, you mentioned Dola, mine is my name.
896
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:26.239
I was the historical consultant on that. Scott Alexander and
897
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.719
Larry Karazuski, both big Rudy Raymore fans. Of course, I'd
898
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:34.000
already interviewed them for my book and they knew, you know,
899
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.480
what I'd been doing all this time. And to them,
900
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.119
I guess it was a no brainer. They were just like,
901
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.239
we have to, you know, bring Mark on every He's
902
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.039
got everything, you know, And they joke in some of
903
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.159
their their interviews and stuff, you know that that you know,
904
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.679
we had this guy that we could just call and say, hey,
905
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:53.760
what kind of car was Rudy driving in nineteen seventy five?
906
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:56.079
You know, okay, thanks, you know, and then and that
907
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:57.960
was basically like a lot of what it was. So
908
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.880
I gave them my book in progress, and you know,
909
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.559
they they would use that as reference. And part of
910
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:08.480
me was kind of scared, like, am I letting this
911
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.639
go too soon? You know, like one of my fears?
912
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:16.840
And maybe this is is a reality? Is that h
913
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.159
that once people saw Dolomite is my Name, they thought
914
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.360
they ought to They knew everything about Rudy and there's
915
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:26.079
no reason to buy a book, you know, and that's
916
00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:31.280
just this much of his life, and uh, you know,
917
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:33.079
and I was getting kind of pressured when the movie
918
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:38.400
was getting ready to to be released, you know, the
919
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.400
book needs to come out now, and I was kind
920
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.599
of like, but I'm not finished with it, you know. Uh,
921
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.559
I mean the final chapter needs to be Dolomite is
922
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:52.280
my Name. Yeah, that's the pinnacle, you know. Like and
923
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:58.039
uh so I I kind of like sent these like
924
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.880
promo packets to these literary agencies, which is kind of
925
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.840
a joke. They basically tell you, even some of the
926
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.559
basically say send us your submission and don't ever contact
927
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:13.239
us again. If we care, we'll contact you. You know.
928
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.880
It's like there's no follow up, no nothing, And so
929
00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:17.679
like Scott and Laer were like dude this, you know,
930
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:19.880
you know, strike while the while the fire is hot,
931
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.119
you know. And so I I kind of went and
932
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:23.960
did a little bit of that and and nothing came
933
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.119
of it. And I was like, fine, that's that's fine
934
00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:28.199
with me, because it wouldn't be done, you know, I
935
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.119
would feel like I compromised just just to kind of
936
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:38.280
cash in, you know, and unfortunately, Uh, money's never been
937
00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:42.000
a motivator. That's well, it's not my motivating factor.
938
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:43.639
So, I mean, we just we just talked about this.
939
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:46.360
You do everything possible through every single one of these
940
00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:48.480
projects to make sure that it's yours, that it's right,
941
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:49.880
that it's the way that you want it, that you've
942
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.039
seen it through from the beginning to the end as
943
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.239
much as you can. And and yeah, you deserve to
944
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:57.079
see it through, especially for something you've given so much
945
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:57.559
your life to.
946
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.639
Yeah. So, I mean, in the movie came out, and
947
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.519
I was very impressed with the movie. And it was
948
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:09.000
funny too, because I'm so detail oriented. You know. My
949
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.679
wife and I were down in southern California in the area,
950
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.559
and we stopped by Scott and Larry's office and they
951
00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.400
let us read the script. You know, we couldn't take
952
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:19.599
a copy. So they just we sat in their office
953
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:21.360
and read it, and they went in the other room
954
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.199
and and then you know, came out and sat on
955
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:24.639
the couch and well, what do you think, you know?
956
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:27.679
And I was I was immediately like, well, it's you know,
957
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:29.480
it's supposed to be nineteen seventy right here, and you're
958
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.440
talking about Deep Throw Deep Throw in nineteen seventy two,
959
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.519
you know. And they're like, Mark, you know, there's a
960
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.119
lot of stuff we got to cover here, so we
961
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.719
got to kind of intermingle, you know, like you know,
962
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.719
and I'm just I'm so focused on the small details.
963
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.760
It took me a while to get out of that that,
964
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:48.880
you know, that frame of mind. And I will say
965
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:51.199
that Netflix was was amazing.
966
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:52.679
To me.
967
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:55.840
You know, I'm I'm a nobody, you know, like on
968
00:50:56.239 --> 00:51:01.280
their scale, but you know, because of Scotton Larry, they
969
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:04.599
brought me in to consult and you know, they use
970
00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:09.159
my material for reference. They were, they were amazing. They
971
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:12.719
I was able to go down on the set. I
972
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:15.480
was there during the opening sequence when they're in the
973
00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:18.440
record store and you know, he's selling people stuff and
974
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.079
and you know, met Snoop Dogg and met Eddie and
975
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.679
Wesley Snipes was there, and you know, little old me,
976
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:26.920
and you know, they're giving me a headset and I'm
977
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.599
I'm sitting right next to Craig Brewer at the monitor
978
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.760
while we're watching. You know, I'm dude, seriously, I'm nobody,
979
00:51:33.159 --> 00:51:35.920
you know, like I got no business sitting here. And
980
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.719
you know, Craig's showing me, like in between setups, he's
981
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.000
like hey, you know, yelling to somebody like hey, put
982
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.559
on the monitor like what we had the other day.
983
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.079
And so he's showing me these clips and he's telling me, yeah,
984
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:47.480
I was thinking about for the intro. You know, we
985
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:50.199
give you like a swish pan and you know, I'm like, okay.
986
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.440
You know, we're talking to Eddie Murphy about eight track
987
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:56.159
tapes and Mister Rogers. Mister Rogers documentary had just come
988
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.800
out and and Eddie was in that. You know, it's
989
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:03.320
just like I'm in another world over here. It's it's bizarre.
990
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:07.320
So they were super super cool, you know. And then
991
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.719
when the movie was done, they flew me down to
992
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.440
la I had a private screening in the Netflix theater,
993
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.480
just me. You know, I sat at the They put
994
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:19.519
me at this table and they had this video conference
995
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:22.639
between New York and l A. And they're asking me
996
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:24.760
all these questions and kind of getting a feel for
997
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.880
some like legal things that they might have to maneuver
998
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.119
through and like what my opinions are because I know
999
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:36.719
that I know the people that are potentially litigious to them,
1000
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:41.960
you know, they're kind of like, yeah, you know, and
1001
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.639
uh again, I'm just a little old me and I'm
1002
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.519
having this video conference with Netflix New York and and whatnot.
1003
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:51.159
So you know, I saw the movie and uh I actually,
1004
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:56.599
uh I started crying during the film. Uh I was
1005
00:52:56.679 --> 00:53:01.199
laughing my ass off, honestly, and uh I think I
1006
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.800
lost it h the scene when uh, you know, Eddie's
1007
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.960
doing the you know, like is there any angle that
1008
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:11.119
we could shoot this that looks you know real? And no,
1009
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.119
there's not, you know, and I just was like, oh
1010
00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:17.039
my god, like this is this is so much better
1011
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.280
than I expected it to be. There were still some
1012
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.920
things I was kind of like, well, you know, that's
1013
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:27.440
that's maybe not the correct uh impersonation of somebody or whatnot.
1014
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:31.239
And and I get over that stuff too, because you
1015
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.239
ultimately have to realize that, you know, this isn't a documentary.
1016
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.480
It's it's you know, it's a biofilm, so there's going
1017
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.880
to be Liberty's taken. And you know, some people were like, well,
1018
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:47.000
you know, I had kind of a someone who who
1019
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.360
worked with Rudy was like, why didn't they Why didn't
1020
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:51.000
they get a hold of me? You know, I worked
1021
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.079
with him for years. Uh, you know, I know how
1022
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.960
he holds his fork, like I know every detail. And
1023
00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:59.599
it's like, no one cares about that, you know, like
1024
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:05.039
it's it's not it's not about that. And the fact
1025
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:11.119
that that Eddie Murphy played Rudy and you know it,
1026
00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:14.159
people say, well, you know, it didn't really play theatrically,
1027
00:54:14.199 --> 00:54:15.519
so it's not a real movie or whatever. You know,
1028
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.519
it's only streaming. But it did play theatrically. I think
1029
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:20.159
I saw it five times because they were they were
1030
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.039
trying to get Oscar, you know, an Oscar. They should
1031
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:29.880
have absolutely and uh, I lost my train of thought
1032
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:31.599
because I'm still thinking about the Oscar.
1033
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:33.559
You're talking about as somebody else saying that they should
1034
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:34.920
have been there, and.
1035
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.480
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but you have to you have
1036
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:44.079
to realize now that that as that movie was, it
1037
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:48.920
put Rudy Raymore's name in the World's mouth. You had
1038
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.400
USA Today and talking about it, you had Ellen DeGeneres
1039
00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:56.360
talking about it. Was every single talk show. Everyone was
1040
00:54:56.400 --> 00:55:00.000
talking about Rudy Raymore. That movie was subtitled and translate
1041
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.480
into like seven, eight, nine, ten, twenty different languages through Netflix.
1042
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:08.719
It was seen all around the world. They don't put out,
1043
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:12.960
you know, viewing figures. I wouldn't be surprised if that
1044
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:18.000
movie was worldwide one hundred million times. Nobody. That never
1045
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.719
would have happened if it was just a theatrical film,
1046
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.840
and even when it became you know, if there was
1047
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.880
a physical media, you know, so everything happened the way
1048
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.280
it was supposed to. I always had a mental vision
1049
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:34.440
of the way it needed to be. It needed to be,
1050
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.039
you know, like these things had to fall in line.
1051
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:39.880
You know. There had to be like reissues of his
1052
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:41.679
stuff that was done properly. And you know, I was
1053
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:44.400
involved and did the commentaries on all the video Vinegar
1054
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:48.639
Syndrome releases, worked on the extras with them, A great
1055
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:52.719
great Love Vinegar Syndrome. Who doesn't you know? And then
1056
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:54.320
I was like, and it needs to have like a
1057
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.440
bio show, and they did, like a I forget what
1058
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:02.719
the unsung Unsung Hollywood on TV one. So I was
1059
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.559
on that show, you know, as Rudymore's biographer, the only
1060
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.519
white guy on the show. I even made the I
1061
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:10.719
even made the trailer, so when you watch the commercial,
1062
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:12.440
you have this white guy at the end going uh
1063
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:16.599
and uh. The funny story about that, one of my
1064
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:21.119
co workers at one point had walked up to me
1065
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:24.199
at work and said, Hey, do you have a brother,
1066
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.119
And I said no, why and he said, well, I
1067
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.800
saw some guy on TV that looked like you, only fatter.
1068
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:36.679
Oh you saw the Unsung episode about Ruder Ray Moore.
1069
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.280
Well that was me. They what do they say? It
1070
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.239
adds ten pounds? So I guess it does, you know.
1071
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.920
And then I also thought like, and then the biofilm
1072
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:46.840
needs to be made, and then my book would come
1073
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.800
out as the final piece of that puzzle. And it
1074
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:52.840
did not that I was like the sole reason why
1075
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:56.000
those happened in that order, But you know, my patience
1076
00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:58.199
with everything kind of like played out the way I
1077
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:01.239
thought it needed to be. And you know, right now
1078
00:57:01.320 --> 00:57:04.599
I'm trying to determine because the two thousand copies of
1079
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:08.599
the hardback have sold out, so I'm not sure what
1080
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:11.239
the next steps are, and again it would not be
1081
00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:14.719
some updated and revised version. There's probably like three typos
1082
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:16.880
in there, and a couple of dates, a couple of
1083
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.000
dates of people that have passed since the you know,
1084
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.639
the book was originally released. So you know, maybe I
1085
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:26.119
just need to kind of try to see if I
1086
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.440
can find a publisher to do like a mass market version,
1087
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:33.480
because it it really is. Uh, I don't care, you know,
1088
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.840
Rudy would say, you know, I'm not conceited. I'm merely
1089
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:40.159
convinced that this is the greatest biography of all time.
1090
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:43.039
It's right, I mean, it's a lot of people have
1091
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.159
told me that as well, Like people said it was
1092
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.679
like a textbook but not but not dry. You know,
1093
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:52.760
it's it's it's informative, it's a history lesson. You're going
1094
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.119
to get so much more out of it, and than
1095
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:56.239
just Rudy Raymore's life.
1096
00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.280
Really well made, really well put together, really thank you
1097
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.400
respectfully chosen photographs, even which it doesn't always happen in
1098
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:05.519
books like this. A lot of times, it's like the
1099
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:10.079
most well known pictures in many situations, like the real
1100
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:11.559
fans don't want to see that shit. We've been seeing
1101
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:13.079
him for the last third years, we want to see
1102
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:16.440
like very specific photos that will be there. Yeah, you
1103
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.559
nailed it. The book is great. I mean, long before
1104
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:21.239
I knew you, I knew I had to have this
1105
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:23.880
because Rudy Remore is as we're getting in the chat,
1106
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:28.000
Rudy Rimore is alleged, like genuinely everything about him, Everything
1107
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:31.360
he's done. The four films that came out through Vinegar
1108
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:34.400
Syndrome are some of their most important releases they've done,
1109
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:37.119
I think, And it's I don't know, it's just such
1110
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:41.760
a unique person to get this amount of love. And honestly,
1111
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:43.679
the fact that we can look back in the last
1112
00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.840
fifteen years and that he's gotten the four releases from
1113
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.119
Vinigger Syndrome and the movie and the book is astonishing
1114
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:51.840
that any of those would happen. But the fact that
1115
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.280
they all happen is a massive legacy. I love it.
1116
00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.159
Yeah, And it's just a testament to his tenacity. Know,
1117
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:04.800
like i I've always I've always related to that in him.
1118
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.559
You know, you just you got to will it into existence.
1119
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.320
You just you just do it. You know, you find
1120
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.719
a way to get it done, no matter what the
1121
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:16.920
you know, no matter what the cost. So hopefully there's
1122
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.519
more life to the book, you know. I was able
1123
00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:22.159
to get it into uh, you know, like Harvard and
1124
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.199
I think Princeton, and you know, I sent it to
1125
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:26.639
It might even be in Yale. I don't remember all
1126
00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.760
the colleges, but I I I donated copies to like
1127
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:31.719
U c. L A and stuff for their like African
1128
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:33.920
American history wings and things like that. And it was
1129
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.039
accepted at several of those places. So I mean, I
1130
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.559
wanted it to be used as a reference, a cultural reference,
1131
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:44.159
you know, and and hopefully it doesn't get discounted because
1132
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:45.920
the white guy wrote it, you know.
1133
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.440
So I mean it said, but that's the thing, like
1134
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:51.920
a lot of times for some people, that is genuinely
1135
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.559
it's a barrier to even have the conversation.
1136
00:59:55.119 --> 01:00:00.239
Yeah, I mean, I've come across people who have just
1137
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:03.159
general generalize that, you know, if you weren't there, you
1138
01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.320
don't know. And it's it's kind of like saying, okay, well,
1139
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:09.000
you know, the guy that wrote the biography on George
1140
01:00:09.039 --> 01:00:11.800
Washington was in his neighbor. You know, like you just
1141
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:15.360
discounted pretty much every piece of you know, half of
1142
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.360
the data and literature you know, in existence. You know.
1143
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:22.599
But I I tried to turn over every rock twice,
1144
01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.920
you know, I revisited things over and over and over again,
1145
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:28.800
because once I had new new context, you know, things changed,
1146
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.199
and so you had to make sure like, oh, whoops,
1147
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:33.519
I made a mistake here, and or I've got this
1148
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:37.440
out of chronology. And and the kind of the great
1149
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:40.639
thing about Rudy's career was that it it easily was
1150
01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.639
broken up into decades. So I was able to just
1151
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:46.000
do like, you know, the fifties and the sixties and
1152
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.440
then the seventies and and so that that part worked
1153
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:54.199
out really well, you know. And you're the the details
1154
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:55.840
I have on the making of all of his films.
1155
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:58.159
I mean, it's it's it is the absolute end word
1156
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.599
on Rudy Raymore. Nobody can touch that book, you know,
1157
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:06.400
you know, and it's I mean, I've got Rudy's head,
1158
01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:08.800
you know, like right right here. You know, it's probably
1159
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.880
always very Yeah, he's over here, you know. I mean,
1160
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.239
this is kind of like a Rudy ray Moore room
1161
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:18.639
on this side of my room here, you know. But
1162
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:20.239
go ahead.
1163
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:22.159
One of the other big things that we can see
1164
01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.119
we should probably we're an hour end of the side.
1165
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:27.280
I think that's ultra flesh archives. No, no, no, I
1166
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:31.840
just the big thing. I mean, the word archive. It
1167
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.679
is such an important word that we don't have enough
1168
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.800
focus on in twenty twenty six because so many people
1169
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:41.519
take a lot of what they have access to at
1170
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:45.679
that moment absolutely for granted. And that depending on how
1171
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:48.039
old you are, depending on what you have had your
1172
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:51.639
life experience, be able to be subjected to. You may
1173
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:54.239
not even understand that there's things that you will not
1174
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:56.760
even comprehend. It is out there, let alone needs to
1175
01:01:56.800 --> 01:01:59.559
be archived. And so you've done that for Rudy Ray,
1176
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.480
You've done that, for Folgi, you've done that for all
1177
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:04.960
these people that you've done you know, website meanings for
1178
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:09.239
for even bobbleheads is to memorialize of these people. And now,
1179
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.679
like ultraflesh archives is such a big part of this
1180
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:17.239
because it is such an undersung corner of the world
1181
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.199
and entertainment that is something that a lot of people
1182
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.599
like kind of act like they want to forget, but
1183
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.880
the reality is this affected a shit ton of people.
1184
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:29.480
So what is ultraflesh archives and what are the loops
1185
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.840
behind them? What are loops?
1186
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:38.360
Well, loops is just a generalized term for small, small
1187
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.760
gauge films. It could be sixteen millimeters, it could be
1188
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:45.199
eight millimeters super eights. The term generally means that the
1189
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:49.480
old Peep Show arcade machines, the films will be set
1190
01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:51.519
up as a loop where they would just play in
1191
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:54.280
constant rotation so that they didn't have to come and
1192
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:56.639
like rewind the film and start it over. People will
1193
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.519
put their nickels or quarters or whatever it was in
1194
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:01.199
there and they get a certain amount of time. Hopefully
1195
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:04.599
something entertaining, if you know what I mean, popped up.
1196
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.559
But then the tease was always like, oh, I got
1197
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:09.320
to put more recorders in because I'm you know, there's
1198
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:11.880
gonna be something good coming up next. So loops is
1199
01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:16.639
just a general term for that. Essentially, I'm gonna have
1200
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:22.760
one here. This is on a on a commercialized you
1201
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.840
know you you would buy them most a lot of
1202
01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:28.239
times they just come in a little white box like
1203
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:29.760
this one right here I got a few days ago.
1204
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:33.159
It just says two o six and it's a super eight.
1205
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:36.639
I don't know anything else about it yet. You know
1206
01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.000
you're gonna have it on on a little reel and
1207
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.800
you know it's it's a it's a film, you know,
1208
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:50.000
and I'll try to summarize the origins of this. Uh
1209
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:57.519
probably I'm letna say, maybe fifteen years ago. My kind
1210
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.400
of my wife's fault. I'm gonna blame her for all
1211
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:04.000
of this. One day she just was like digging through
1212
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.239
like I had one box of you know, dirty magazines
1213
01:04:07.239 --> 01:04:09.400
in my in my closet, Not that I was hiding
1214
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:10.880
them or anything, but they were just that's just where
1215
01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:13.880
they were stored. And uh so she was she got
1216
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:15.840
this idea and she started cutting up some of them.
1217
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:20.159
Uh and she plastered our bathroom with pictures from you know,
1218
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.360
men's magazines. That became kind of this notorious porno bathroom,
1219
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.679
which has evolved over the years, which we still have,
1220
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.239
but now it's more classy. We have a working condom
1221
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:33.119
machine in there. You know, we have a shower curtain
1222
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.920
that has like people in sex positions on it, and
1223
01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:37.719
and uh, you know, it's a very I guess it
1224
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:41.000
would say sex positive bathroom. You know, we've had people
1225
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:42.480
come work on the house and they'll be like, can
1226
01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:44.440
I use the bathroom? And we'll say do you want
1227
01:04:44.480 --> 01:04:49.920
the G rated bathroom or the X rated bathroom? And they, uh, uh,
1228
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:52.800
what do you mean? Well, take your take your pick,
1229
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:53.039
you know.
1230
01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:53.639
Uh.
1231
01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:56.960
So so that's become a you know, a kind of
1232
01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:58.719
a show piece of our house. You know, our house
1233
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:00.840
is set up like a gallery. We've got at uh
1234
01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:04.400
you know, adult posters framed in the hallways and you know,
1235
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.800
all over the place and like an archive.
1236
01:05:07.119 --> 01:05:07.760
Yeah.
1237
01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:11.400
Yeah, and so so she was doing the plastering the
1238
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:15.159
bathroom and then I just like I was kind of like, well,
1239
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.840
let's go, let's go buy some more magazines and and
1240
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:21.480
uh uh I'm I'm. Everything I do is you know,
1241
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:24.760
rooted in nostalgia. Uh. And so it just started like
1242
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:28.159
finding people on Craigslist that were selling collections and stuff
1243
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:30.880
and and uh it was actually really sweet if if
1244
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:34.400
this even sounds odd, you know, we would go and
1245
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:40.360
uh find stuff on Craigslist and go over to people's
1246
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.559
houses and buy their you know, it would be like
1247
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:47.960
their dad's collection. The Uh We've had people that like
1248
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.760
their like uncle was in hospice and they were trying
1249
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.639
to you know, liquidate his stuff, and we would, you know,
1250
01:05:54.679 --> 01:05:56.239
we would show up and we would tell them that,
1251
01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:58.840
you know, we're not dealers. You know, we're here because
1252
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.000
we want to preserve this stuff. So you know, I
1253
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.559
hope that gives you some you know, some solace and
1254
01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.000
and a lot of places. One woman's husband had died
1255
01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:09.039
and she said he would be so happy to know that,
1256
01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:13.199
you know, you guys are holding this, you know, and
1257
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:15.159
that was a great score because we found like a
1258
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:18.440
handwritten like sex ransom note in there, and there's in
1259
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:20.360
their stuff. So it was like, you know, hopefully they're
1260
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.360
having some fun doing some role play, and we just
1261
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.519
happened to get like the ransom note, you know. So
1262
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:26.440
you know, it's the fun things that you find in
1263
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.400
that type of stuff, you know, So I cherished that,
1264
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.800
you know, that's something cool that you found along the way.
1265
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:33.719
And then it just kind of like, you know, we
1266
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.199
would buy things, and I would buy stuff on on
1267
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.320
eBay and and we you know, we'd go take two
1268
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.960
three hour road trips to buy people's stuff out and
1269
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.960
buy it in bulk, and and uh, you know one
1270
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:47.360
thing that we don't pay for and people would always
1271
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:48.960
wonder why. It was like, you know, I said I
1272
01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:52.079
don't pay for Penthouse, Playboy and Hustler, and they go,
1273
01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:56.440
oh why because everybody has them. Yeah, there's nothing rare,
1274
01:06:56.599 --> 01:06:59.199
you know, like everyone has a garage full of at
1275
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.000
least you know for sure, you know, and then people
1276
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:04.559
would just go here take them, and they'd give us
1277
01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:06.440
boxes of them, and you know, and then we'd end
1278
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:10.199
up like liquidating them ourselves. And but so the magazine
1279
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:13.159
portion started, you know, to compile, and and you know,
1280
01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.159
at this point, now I'm sure I have at least
1281
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:19.000
eight thousand magazines, you know, well over one hundred boxes
1282
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:22.719
of them. Uh, you know, magazine boxes on racks and
1283
01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:26.960
everything and labeled and and all of that. And I
1284
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.440
started I started kind of getting interested in in the
1285
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:33.559
loops as well, but was a little bit reluctant because
1286
01:07:34.079 --> 01:07:37.039
and this is the challenge that I face, Uh, you know,
1287
01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:41.159
producing these and restoring these. Now they all look like crap.
1288
01:07:41.800 --> 01:07:43.960
You know, half the time you couldn't it was so dark,
1289
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.800
you couldn't tell what was going on. Uh, they were
1290
01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:50.239
so damaged and and and so you know, I kind
1291
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.559
of believe that that's how they looked. And it was
1292
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:55.199
just like this is kind of garbage, like the you know,
1293
01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:57.559
I can't I can't see what's going on. So how
1294
01:07:57.559 --> 01:08:01.559
am I going to enjoy you know, the action? And uh,
1295
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.840
you know, and I met somebody on online and and
1296
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:07.000
he had a big collection, and he was like, now, dude,
1297
01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:10.159
you gotta, you gotta, you know, give it a chance.
1298
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:12.440
And so, you know, I got a projector and a
1299
01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:15.280
handful of loops from him, and and I was like, okay,
1300
01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:17.800
well these, you know, the these these don't look like crap.
1301
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:20.039
And I realized it was just the way that people
1302
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:24.279
were doing transfers and the methods that they were using.
1303
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.159
So I'm still finishing my routery in more book, I'm
1304
01:08:27.159 --> 01:08:29.119
still doing bibble heads and all this kind of stuff,
1305
01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:31.720
but this is kind of like percolating in the back
1306
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:34.720
of my mind, like someday I'm gonna I'm gonna do this,
1307
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.399
you know. And once I completed the Rooty project, you
1308
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:40.600
know what, what little money I had left over from
1309
01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:44.359
you know, doing the movie and the book, you know,
1310
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:48.640
was my my little you know, investment into my film
1311
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:54.199
restoration equipment and programs. And you know, at this point,
1312
01:08:54.279 --> 01:09:00.439
now I've got easily probably eleven thousand loops. Uh, about
1313
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.600
three or four thousand of those are duplicates, so I
1314
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.840
think I'm coming right in around seventy five hundred individual
1315
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:12.039
titles and uh, and I just kept thinking, like, I
1316
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.159
need to do something with this stuff. You know, you
1317
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.560
can't just sit here, and I was so distorted in
1318
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:20.439
how it was being presented. And then so you know,
1319
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:23.520
I and I started out with the crappiest of equipment too.
1320
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:24.960
I was like, well let me see, let me see
1321
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:26.279
what all this is. And so you know, you can
1322
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:29.199
buy these little these little tiny things for three or
1323
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:32.840
four hundred bucks on Amazon, and you know what those are.
1324
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.159
Those are absolutely perfect if you just want to be
1325
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:38.399
able to see you know, Grandma and Grandpa, you know,
1326
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:42.079
and birthday home new times you know that are about
1327
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.439
like they look good at about this big on your screen,
1328
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:46.800
but you blow them up anymore and they're just pixelized
1329
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:49.840
and you know, the definition is gone. So you know,
1330
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:51.920
I tried all those. I tried doing like the tele
1331
01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.479
asena where you have like you know, a projector pointing
1332
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:59.760
into a camera, you know, and that's decent, but I
1333
01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:02.960
was isn't satisfied with that. So I ultimately just you know,
1334
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.960
my wife always is the one who says, if you're
1335
01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:08.000
gonna do it, do it right, and so she gives
1336
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:11.600
me that extra you know, kicking the ass to you know, dude,
1337
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:14.079
you know you know what you need to do, so
1338
01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.640
do it. So I always kind of use her as
1339
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:18.560
like the final QC, because she'll go, are you satisfied
1340
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.119
with this? And if I'm like, eh, why why you know,
1341
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.159
get satisfied with it? Like do you know if there's
1342
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:28.760
something that you didn't do, do it? So we bought
1343
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:32.119
the transfer equipment, and you know, I paid for the
1344
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:35.600
uh uh the restoration software.
1345
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:36.279
Uh.
1346
01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:38.279
You know. And I guess the part of the reason
1347
01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:41.279
why no one's doing this is because it is not cheap, right,
1348
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:45.319
you know, for the equipment, uh, just generally speaking, for
1349
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:49.239
what I've spent on equipment, you know, you need computers.
1350
01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:52.800
You're gonna need a ton of hard drive space and
1351
01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:57.479
backups and and you know, multiple computers and and the software.
1352
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:01.560
I could have bought a very nice car, you know,
1353
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:04.399
for for what I've invested in this. Now that's just
1354
01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:07.479
for the equipment and stuff, not not the collection itself,
1355
01:11:09.319 --> 01:11:13.119
you know. And and and so I spent probably about
1356
01:11:13.199 --> 01:11:17.159
two years just messing around trying to figure out how
1357
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:20.479
to how to do do this. You know, it's not
1358
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.279
like I'm an expert in this. I didn't take any
1359
01:11:22.479 --> 01:11:25.359
schooling or go to college for any of this. It
1360
01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:28.600
was just a matter of you know, trial and error,
1361
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.600
trial and air. You know, first, of course, there's a
1362
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:34.960
lot more error than than success. You know, you go
1363
01:11:35.039 --> 01:11:37.279
on YouTube and you find somebody who's got a video
1364
01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:39.319
about white balance, and you start there, and you know,
1365
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:43.199
you you work your way through it, and you know,
1366
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:45.680
every everything I do is is still an experiment and
1367
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:52.680
and uh you know learning uh yeah, time. Each each film,
1368
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:57.720
of course, has different needs. Some some just can't be restored.
1369
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.279
You you might you might get something where find a
1370
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.319
lot of stuff that there's manufacturing issues as well. Oh
1371
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:05.920
you know, they just you know, there might be something
1372
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:09.680
that like I was trying to do one recently and
1373
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:12.359
it had this throughout the whole movie. It would have
1374
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:17.640
like four or five consecutive frames with just giant scratches
1375
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:19.399
through you know, and you knew that it was on
1376
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:24.199
the negative. So a little bit about how like the
1377
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:30.560
software restores is is basically they pulls pixels from neighboring frames.
1378
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:34.279
So if you have one frame that has like, let's
1379
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:37.560
say the top corner is you know, a big black blob,
1380
01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.600
it'll pull that section from one of the frames on
1381
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.399
the other sides to fill that space in. But if
1382
01:12:44.479 --> 01:12:48.520
you have three or four or five frames consecutive. You
1383
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:53.239
don't have the data, you know, to kind of pull from,
1384
01:12:53.680 --> 01:12:55.800
and you might be able to get something okay, but
1385
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:58.439
then you get these kind of wonky you know, where
1386
01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:00.680
a shoulder doesn't match up and you can see like
1387
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:03.000
a weird jerk and all this kind of stuff. So
1388
01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:06.680
it gets difficult and me being stubborn too.
1389
01:13:07.199 --> 01:13:07.319
Uh.
1390
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.359
I won't name names, but there's someone in the industry
1391
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:14.760
that that does something similar and their comment was that
1392
01:13:14.960 --> 01:13:17.960
there's nothing that you can do with these films. And
1393
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:21.760
basically what what they do is is, uh, they transfer
1394
01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:25.279
and then they do a little bit of color correction,
1395
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:31.520
but there's no like actual restoration. Yeah. Uh. And actually
1396
01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:34.000
someone commented on a on a Facebook post today and
1397
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.239
mentioned that those specific ones and called them dog shit.
1398
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:41.000
So I'm quoting someone else, so I'll let them speak
1399
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:44.039
for for for that, and and I kind of felt
1400
01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:46.600
the same way. So what could I do that was better?
1401
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:48.880
You know, I'm not satisfied with what I'm seeing, So
1402
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:52.479
how do I make it better? And so I just
1403
01:13:52.479 --> 01:13:56.479
just do it. I take the time, you know, and uh,
1404
01:13:57.239 --> 01:13:59.439
there's been times I've spent like an entire week working
1405
01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:03.159
on you know, eight minutes of footage. Yeah, part of
1406
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.279
my problem is that my perfectionism and my OCD and
1407
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:09.680
and I'm I'm a little bit too heavy handed on
1408
01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.920
the corrections, to be honest. Like the you know, the cleanup,
1409
01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:14.840
I want to leave some of that damage in there.
1410
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:16.960
I want to leave some dust and things because I
1411
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.079
don't want it to look too clean, you know. I mean,
1412
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:24.239
these are dirty movies, by the way, right, you know,
1413
01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:26.359
and there's only there is only so much you can
1414
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:29.159
do with them. I made this little prop here. I
1415
01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.199
kind of wanted to show this, and this is a
1416
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:35.000
and then I'll get into some of the releases. This
1417
01:14:35.079 --> 01:14:36.800
is an example. Let me see if you can actually
1418
01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:41.039
see this. Okay, So this right here is what would
1419
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:45.239
be a thirty five millimeter frame the white. Okay, just
1420
01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:47.880
just just from a leader. So you got the four perforations.
1421
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:51.279
That's the width and everything of a of a thirty
1422
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:54.000
five millimeter. Now this in the center, let me see
1423
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.199
how I can get in there more. In the center
1424
01:14:56.239 --> 01:15:00.119
there is an eight millimeter frame. So I've put but
1425
01:15:00.199 --> 01:15:02.960
the lines on the sides there to show the actual
1426
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:06.800
size of the frame itself. Because that little section over
1427
01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:10.319
here is where the perforations are right, so that you
1428
01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.359
don't get visual you know, there's no visual information over there.
1429
01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:17.039
So that is how small an eight millimeter frame is
1430
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:20.000
in comparison to thirty five millimeter, so there's not a
1431
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:26.159
lot of you know, visual information there. You can you
1432
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:30.119
can get I guess close ish to like full high definition,
1433
01:15:30.920 --> 01:15:32.960
you know, I would, I would imagine that that Super
1434
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.079
eight you can probably you probably do get high definition.
1435
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:39.159
Everything I do is transferred to high definition. And I've
1436
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:41.720
always had a kind of an issue with you buy
1437
01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:44.079
a release and you know some of almost say, you know,
1438
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:46.600
transferred to high definition, but it's on DVD, So what
1439
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:50.279
like that means nothing? Now, like you should have just
1440
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:54.039
transferred it in standard definition because that's what I'm essentially getting,
1441
01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:58.600
you know, right, So I didn't want to downgrade. So
1442
01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.399
everything I'm doing at least right now now because I
1443
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:06.359
can get a high definition quality from it, we'll be
1444
01:16:06.439 --> 01:16:10.039
on on Blu ray now. With the understanding too that
1445
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:13.079
again with that microscopic I mean that that frame is
1446
01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:16.720
only like I think it's something like three point three
1447
01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:22.520
millimeters h tall by four point five wide, So that's
1448
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:25.359
I mean, it's not even eight millimeters you know. Yeah,
1449
01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:27.560
So it's tiny. The super rates are bigger because they
1450
01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:32.039
have smaller perforation, you know, and so they made the
1451
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:34.359
frame a little bit bigger, so you get better resolution,
1452
01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.600
and you can you can often tell immediately between what's
1453
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.039
a what's an eight millimeter in a super eight when
1454
01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:44.640
you look at you know, my transfers. But people say like, oh,
1455
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:46.079
do it in four K, and it's like, there's no
1456
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:49.199
point to that. There's not four K worth of data
1457
01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:51.880
in there, you know, there's no not enough pixels to
1458
01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:54.880
get to four K. You can transfer it, but mostly
1459
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:58.640
just like increasing the grain at that point, you're just
1460
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:01.399
you know, just you know, making it dirtier in a way.
1461
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.600
So essentially when I do these, you know, I transfer
1462
01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:07.720
them an HD. Sometimes I've done them in in two
1463
01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:10.399
K and and and then you just realize, like and
1464
01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:11.800
also if you're doing them a four K, all you're
1465
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:14.960
doing is just draining your computer. Uh, you know, your
1466
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.399
your you know your system is everything's taking twice as
1467
01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:21.600
long to do now for no no additional uh you know,
1468
01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:25.079
picture quality increase. So there's no point to that. Uh.
1469
01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:29.640
I do stress absolutely one hundred percent, no AI in
1470
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:32.640
any way, shape or form other than with a with
1471
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:37.880
an asterisk. The restoration software uses AI to you know,
1472
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.720
interpolate between frames and stuff, but it's not like, you know,
1473
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.119
there's yeah, I'm not going to toepaths and and just
1474
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:47.239
putting in it because those are a joke. You can
1475
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:51.039
see those and they're too smooth and they look like garbage.
1476
01:17:51.239 --> 01:17:54.119
And I really absolutely hate it when people, you know, like, oh,
1477
01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:56.760
I just you know, upgraded this to to HD. You know,
1478
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:59.880
the information was never there to begin with, so you're
1479
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:04.199
creating a thing. Yeah, so you know that that drives
1480
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:07.399
me nuts too, So you know, I try not to
1481
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.479
make them too smooth. I mean, obviously there's a lot
1482
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:11.000
of noise in there, so I want to do a
1483
01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.319
little bit of noise reduction. I want to keep the grain,
1484
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.520
you know, and I try to bring out the colors
1485
01:18:16.520 --> 01:18:19.319
as much as I can. But you know, again, people
1486
01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:23.119
have to understand that that you know, this isn't seventy millimeters.
1487
01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:25.000
It's not going to look like Avatar. You know, this
1488
01:18:25.159 --> 01:18:28.279
is uh. But also at the same time, if I
1489
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:31.039
were to show you and I haven't really like put
1490
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:34.840
this to task, like of like what's that what's been
1491
01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:37.319
out and what I'm doing and it's night and day.
1492
01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:41.439
You know, I'll you know, I'll stand by that. I
1493
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:46.039
believe that that the uh, the restorations and the quality
1494
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.319
of what I'm doing is is far superior to what
1495
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:50.720
anybody's done at this point, and that.
1496
01:18:50.479 --> 01:18:52.760
That's kind of that's what purpus for you. We should
1497
01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:55.359
get like a restoration demo, real done of a couple
1498
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:56.000
of these things.
1499
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.439
Yeah, and and so part of part of what I
1500
01:18:58.479 --> 01:19:01.319
do on each relief. And I only have two releases,
1501
01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.319
and I'll show you those in a second, with a
1502
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.359
ton more to come. But I always will be putting
1503
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:08.920
a restoration feature at on there where I show like
1504
01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.399
the raw scan next to the restored frame, and then
1505
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.039
below it I put the final color corrected version so
1506
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:16.840
you can see, you know, it may just be a
1507
01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:19.159
short clip, could be like ten center or whatever. Yeah,
1508
01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:22.560
but and I and I think that's part of the
1509
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:25.600
challenge that I have is first because I mean myself,
1510
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:27.399
I was like, these look, these look like crap, Like
1511
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:28.960
why would I want to you know, why would I
1512
01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:30.600
why I want to watch them? So now I have
1513
01:19:30.640 --> 01:19:33.000
to convince people that they're not going to look like crap.
1514
01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:36.640
I have to convince people that these are valid because
1515
01:19:36.640 --> 01:19:39.319
I do believe that these are valid historical documents of
1516
01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:43.680
human sexuality and film. You know, maybe I'm one of
1517
01:19:43.680 --> 01:19:46.640
the small handful that believe that, you know, me and
1518
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:54.319
Casey Scott long lived loops love you, Casey. Uh So, like, uh,
1519
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:59.439
you know, it's it's an uphill battle, which I tend
1520
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.560
to fight on everything that I do, you know, and
1521
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.960
I'm hoping that that just the momentum that I'm building.
1522
01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:09.159
You know, even when I didn't have releases out, I
1523
01:20:09.159 --> 01:20:11.520
still had a heavy social media presence, you know, I
1524
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:14.199
was posting pictures of magazines and and that's another thing.
1525
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.119
I try to post things from my collection, and I'm
1526
01:20:16.119 --> 01:20:19.279
trying to show that that it's not just someone pull
1527
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.239
the screen grab off of you know somewhere online like
1528
01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:24.479
that I have these I have this magazine. You know,
1529
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:27.399
here's here's boxes and boxes of them. So maybe some
1530
01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:29.479
of that's ego whatever, because it's like ha, I look
1531
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:31.479
what I have and it's not really that, but you know,
1532
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:35.079
like I have this stuff, this stuff exists, like like
1533
01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:38.279
I'm trying to hold onto this. I'm trying I chairish
1534
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:41.000
this stuff. I'm trying to preserve it, you know, ultimately,
1535
01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.640
and This is a major pipe dream, and I don't
1536
01:20:43.640 --> 01:20:46.199
have any idea how I'd ever accomplished this, but I
1537
01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:48.119
mean I would like to have every magazine that I
1538
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:52.560
have scanned, you know, and also like you know, uh
1539
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:55.520
like searchable PDF versions and you know, of course if
1540
01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:58.760
you could make like a gigantic database of you know, yeah,
1541
01:20:58.800 --> 01:21:01.720
I mean, like I just the thought of that, just
1542
01:21:02.439 --> 01:21:05.119
I mean, oh my god, you know, and the same
1543
01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.119
thing with all the films that I have, of being
1544
01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:10.039
able to get them all transferred, which which is a
1545
01:21:10.319 --> 01:21:14.640
huge task, you know. I mean, the the the releases
1546
01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:19.199
that I've done, hundreds of hours have been spent spent
1547
01:21:19.279 --> 01:21:23.039
on those, you know, and I just I do it
1548
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:27.680
until until it's done. And you know, I hope people
1549
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:31.600
appreciate it. I hope people, uh uh will support those
1550
01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:33.880
of you who are already supporting me, Like I mean,
1551
01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:38.479
just you know, I can't thank you enough. I just
1552
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.560
I need more. I need more support, you know. I'm
1553
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.920
I'm I'm a microscopic little company here trying to do this,
1554
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:45.960
but you know, I have big dreams and big goals
1555
01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:49.920
with this, so you know, uh, I need to sell
1556
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:52.439
more so I can buy more stoage you know, data
1557
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:54.880
storage and transfer, more mood, you know, and keep the
1558
01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:58.880
keep the cycle going. So let me talk about my
1559
01:21:58.960 --> 01:21:59.560
releases here.
1560
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.000
Please, let's hear about Leslie Winston. All right.
1561
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:06.520
So the first release I did was called wild Heart.
1562
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.359
It's the Leslie Winston collection. These are all classy. There's
1563
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:13.600
no nudity here because I try to think. I like
1564
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:15.399
to keep thinking. You know, I have respect for this stuff.
1565
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:19.720
So you know, you're not going to find vulgar titled releases,
1566
01:22:19.760 --> 01:22:22.159
which is fine, but you know, you may you might
1567
01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:24.720
see that in the inside when I'm referencing the actual
1568
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.560
titles of the films. But you know, overall this is uh,
1569
01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.279
you know, I have the utmost respect for all of
1570
01:22:30.279 --> 01:22:34.239
these people, you know, including my subjects. So Leslie's release
1571
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:36.880
is called Wildheart. The reason why it's called that is
1572
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:40.119
because that's how she describes herself. So what I do
1573
01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:42.760
with this is this is my deluxe version. So I've
1574
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:47.239
got a uh spot gloss you know, side load sleeve,
1575
01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:51.319
you know, all the goodies there, and then the disc
1576
01:22:51.399 --> 01:22:55.359
itself if you can see without the you know, nice
1577
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:56.199
and nice and.
1578
01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:57.800
Classy, great design.
1579
01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:02.640
You know, she can little little you know, replication of
1580
01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:05.399
a of a film there with little screen grabs from
1581
01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:08.359
the movies and stuff. Of course these are all you know,
1582
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:11.520
full frame, but enhanced for sixteen point nine because they
1583
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:16.399
were that's the framing that they're filmed in. This is
1584
01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:21.279
actually the the deluxe signature version. So when I do
1585
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:26.560
deluxe editions for the first few that are specifically star related,
1586
01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:31.039
for the for the actress, the first fifty copies, and
1587
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:34.439
they're all numbered, individually numbered, so there's five hundred of these.
1588
01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:37.960
The first fifty copies are signature editions, so they came
1589
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:42.680
with some extra special goodies like this comes with like
1590
01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:45.439
this one had a little packet. It's got ultra flash
1591
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:50.000
archives sticker. Behind here is a Leslie Winston trading card.
1592
01:23:50.039 --> 01:23:53.760
There's a Leslie Winston drink coaster. There's even an actual
1593
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:58.560
peep Show token inside here. It came with that. And
1594
01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:02.359
then every single one of my releases comes with a condom.
1595
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:07.560
Have fun, be safe. Okay, we're pro sex here, like
1596
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:10.359
sex positive, you know, make love not war. The world
1597
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:13.640
is so screwed up right now, everybody just go get some,
1598
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.840
you know, like let's let's let's just get over you know,
1599
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:24.159
less hate, more love. Then I've got a let's see.
1600
01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:27.560
So once I take the extra goodies out, you know,
1601
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:31.800
I have a in lay, so you have a picture
1602
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:33.560
in there, and then you've got the disc of course,
1603
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:37.640
if you can see it, these will the deluxe ones
1604
01:24:37.680 --> 01:24:41.880
come with a four panel booklet. So this has made
1605
01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:45.680
designed like it's a sex catalog, like a you know,
1606
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:47.600
and so it's got like a fake order form on
1607
01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:49.520
the back and you can you know, the descriptions of
1608
01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:52.359
Leslie's loops and everything are inside and all of that.
1609
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:56.560
The signature editions like this come with this special signature card.
1610
01:24:56.840 --> 01:25:00.520
Here's Leslie's signature here, beautiful one through fifty.
1611
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:00.800
Get that.
1612
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:03.960
I get number one all the time. I'm a collector too,
1613
01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:08.239
so I get number one and the deluxe editions and
1614
01:25:08.279 --> 01:25:11.720
people have actually said that this is amazing too. The
1615
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:15.720
special collector's editions come with this info card. What this
1616
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:19.520
is is two sided. It's die cut, so there's a
1617
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:22.319
space cut out here. This is just kind of a
1618
01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:25.560
card that discusses real quickly like the history of eight
1619
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:28.119
millimeters super eight films, and also as it relates to
1620
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.960
the adult industry and has a little bit of information
1621
01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:33.479
on how we do our restorations here or I do
1622
01:25:33.520 --> 01:25:35.960
our restorations here, I say, wee, but it's me and
1623
01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:39.840
a little bit of help from my wife the kicker here,
1624
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:43.079
and I have to hand cut these and apply these all,
1625
01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:46.760
so it takes a lot of time. Is this right here,
1626
01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.640
if you can see, is an actual strip of eight
1627
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:53.319
millimeter film from one of Leslie Winston's films. So you
1628
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:57.279
get a actual strip of film in the deluxe editions
1629
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:02.039
from the Star. You know, I have so many duplicates
1630
01:26:02.039 --> 01:26:04.239
and sometimes they're just damaged and they're you know, instead
1631
01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:05.880
of throwing them away, I'm gonna cut them up and
1632
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:08.359
make use of them. So so you get kind of
1633
01:26:08.359 --> 01:26:10.600
a piece of history with it. And also again that
1634
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:13.720
reference point of like wow, like look at how small
1635
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:17.840
that that frame is that that we're working with. And
1636
01:26:17.880 --> 01:26:22.960
then one thing about every release is the outer packaging
1637
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.560
is a paper bag. So this is kind of like,
1638
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:29.680
you know, you just went to the dirty bookstore and
1639
01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:32.199
you bought some kind of post too. Yeah, you know,
1640
01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:34.560
so so they always come in a paper bag. Maybe
1641
01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:36.760
someday I'll change that, but right now, you know, people
1642
01:26:36.840 --> 01:26:39.359
are liking that too. It's just and and a lot
1643
01:26:39.399 --> 01:26:42.880
of this comes from that uh, that old di y
1644
01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:46.159
punk rock. You know, upbringing that I had. Everything I've
1645
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:49.600
ever done is always been rooted in that that mindset,
1646
01:26:49.880 --> 01:26:51.720
you know, for better or for worse, it's it's it's
1647
01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.560
a drain on time. And you know, sometimes I like,
1648
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.199
it's just like, dude, I can't cut these frames out anymore,
1649
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.520
you know, sitting there trying to watch TV. I'm just like,
1650
01:27:00.720 --> 01:27:04.279
you know, gluing these things into these cards night after night,
1651
01:27:04.319 --> 01:27:07.159
and so it gets tedious. But I mean it makes
1652
01:27:07.159 --> 01:27:10.239
me proud of of the release because of how much
1653
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:13.039
I've put into it. Everyone you buy this, you're buying
1654
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.680
a piece of me, basically, like, you know, so much
1655
01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:17.960
effort that I put into there. So you know, I
1656
01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:20.720
hope people understand that. I hope people, you know, appreciate that,
1657
01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:24.319
you know, and I appreciate if people purchase them, you know,
1658
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:26.680
they're getting they're getting that love in there, you know,
1659
01:27:26.760 --> 01:27:29.359
I think that, you know. I mean the model for
1660
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:32.920
the company is take pride in your porn. So you know,
1661
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.560
I take pride in everything that I do. And uh,
1662
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:37.680
I mean, it says it, you know, right here on
1663
01:27:37.720 --> 01:27:39.640
top of Leslie's box. It says it. On the back
1664
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:42.880
of the releases. You know, we have bumper stickers. You know,
1665
01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:46.640
Lisa's in Trees Classic Star. She she has that bumper
1666
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:49.319
sticker on her car, you know. She she she has
1667
01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:52.800
pride and taking pride in her porn. So it's just
1668
01:27:53.159 --> 01:27:56.239
you know, it's a labor of love, for sure, and
1669
01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:59.439
I have the utmost respect for these people, and I
1670
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:04.720
do believe that these are like true, They're relevant, and
1671
01:28:04.760 --> 01:28:10.760
they deserve respect and and should be preserved. And then today, uh,
1672
01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:16.560
my new release. This is a standard standard release, so
1673
01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.279
I have the Deluxe versions and then I have standard editions.
1674
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.479
So this is Endless Ecstasy with three x's of course
1675
01:28:22.680 --> 01:28:25.399
of course volume one. So this is just kind of
1676
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:30.119
like we'll say, the basic Loop collection, you know, kind
1677
01:28:30.119 --> 01:28:34.039
of miscellaneous loops so to speak, you know, same thing.
1678
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.199
A lot of a lot of my layouts are the same,
1679
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:40.359
you know. I I try to keep things uh the same,
1680
01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:43.520
you know, esthetic, you know. And also this this pink
1681
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:48.039
color here is like the official Ultra Flesh archives. Yeah,
1682
01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:50.479
so you know, I went with yellow on this one.
1683
01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:55.640
I'm actually replicating something from the period. There's a Loop
1684
01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:58.720
series called Lusty Ladies, and this is kind of a
1685
01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:02.279
reference to the Lusty Ladies artwork that they had. So
1686
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:05.359
I'll be doing things that are references to stuff, whether
1687
01:29:05.439 --> 01:29:08.359
people you know pick up on it or not. So
1688
01:29:08.760 --> 01:29:14.479
this is also numbered, and then again you've got your condom.
1689
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:19.640
Of course, all my stuff also comes with random trading cards.
1690
01:29:19.640 --> 01:29:24.520
This is Serice Lynks. She's one of the Ultraflesh girls. Uh,
1691
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:26.720
you know, I have some some I'm going to call
1692
01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:31.039
them friends who are our models that have that same
1693
01:29:31.159 --> 01:29:36.319
kind of attitude and and throw back interest and look,
1694
01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:40.479
you know, and she there's also a Ultra Flesh Archives
1695
01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:43.560
magazine that you can get free online. She was the
1696
01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:46.239
cover model for the first issue. I'm working on number
1697
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:48.199
five right now. It's gonna take me longer to do
1698
01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:49.760
the issues because I'm really busy.
1699
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:50.560
You're a little busy.
1700
01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:54.720
Yeah yeah, but you can go online and download those.
1701
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:57.319
They're free. You can read them online or you can download.
1702
01:29:57.439 --> 01:30:01.720
And it's a throwback to the old magazines. That's got
1703
01:30:01.720 --> 01:30:04.359
a lot of old magazine ads. Don't write to those
1704
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:07.920
addresses because those you know, those offers are no longer valid.
1705
01:30:08.920 --> 01:30:12.720
But there's uh old articles that I've called from all
1706
01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:14.640
you know, all the magazines and stuff that I have,
1707
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:17.359
and also new articles as well. Like we every issue
1708
01:30:17.359 --> 01:30:19.840
has a tribute to someone. We've done tributes to Kate
1709
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:23.880
Parker with people you know leaving memories and Gloria Leonard
1710
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.000
and our Bola and Herschel Savage and so you know,
1711
01:30:27.039 --> 01:30:30.000
we want to pay tribute to the the legends that
1712
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:32.119
aren't no longer with us, and that's a lot of
1713
01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:36.159
people unfortunately, but also like have fun and be be
1714
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:39.520
rooted in that, you know, that nostalgia. So you get
1715
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:43.560
random trading cards inside each each release. You also get
1716
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:45.560
random trading cards and stickers and things like that when
1717
01:30:45.600 --> 01:30:49.079
you when you order this one has the Endless Ecstasy,
1718
01:30:49.119 --> 01:30:51.039
you know has the insert in the back of the
1719
01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.600
insert is is you know, just an old uh Doop
1720
01:30:55.119 --> 01:30:59.960
magazine ad and the inner inlay is also old old
1721
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:01.880
ads as well. You know, I love those things. I
1722
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:03.319
can look at those things for hours.
1723
01:31:03.640 --> 01:31:07.199
Well, and those are like importantly needing to be archived
1724
01:31:07.199 --> 01:31:08.880
as well. A lot of those things are a design
1725
01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:11.039
aesthetic that a lot of people don't use anymore, and
1726
01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:12.960
just for reference, those are super important.
1727
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:16.560
Yeah, So I mean it's it's deeply like I said,
1728
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:20.119
deeply rooted in the nostalgia of the period, you know,
1729
01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:26.079
and and The next release that I'm doing is another deluxe,
1730
01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:29.279
and I kind of want to go back to the
1731
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:34.520
idea of like wild Heart, so I'm doing a Serena collection.
1732
01:31:35.119 --> 01:31:38.439
Of course, Serena is an absolute legend. There's actually gonna
1733
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:42.239
be two volumes of that. There's two volumes of asud
1734
01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:46.319
Nero collection, and there's going to be one volume with
1735
01:31:46.479 --> 01:31:51.479
Rondo Joe Petty and then so I'm letting. I asked
1736
01:31:51.520 --> 01:31:54.159
all of them, give me one word that you think
1737
01:31:54.239 --> 01:31:58.119
describes you best, and so they didn't really realize it,
1738
01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:00.560
but I'm using that as their title. So that's how
1739
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.439
I got wild Heart. And I asked Leslie, what is
1740
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.880
your favorite color? She said purple, So wild Heart is
1741
01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:10.000
in purple. So I'm I'm using, you know, I'm I'm
1742
01:32:10.239 --> 01:32:13.960
I'm putting some of their own personality, as you know,
1743
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:18.119
the title of it and everything. So Serena actually thought
1744
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:20.720
this was funny because she didn't realize that that's what
1745
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:23.399
I was going to call her releases. But I asked her,
1746
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:26.560
what you know, describe yourself with one word and she
1747
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:30.680
said effervescent. So and actually that is a very good
1748
01:32:30.680 --> 01:32:36.319
description of work, so, you know, and so mid March
1749
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:40.000
I went and spent some time with her. She's family,
1750
01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:44.000
and I think that maybe one of the things that
1751
01:32:44.039 --> 01:32:49.600
I have going for myself is is I really believe
1752
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:51.960
that what I'm doing is genuine and my my heart
1753
01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.399
is in the right place. So I think that reflects
1754
01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.600
in the way I behave, in the way I treat people,
1755
01:32:56.680 --> 01:33:00.439
in the stuff that I do. So I I've been
1756
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:03.359
able to cultivate a lot of her relationships and in
1757
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:06.199
some cases very close relationships to people from the industry
1758
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:09.239
from that period. You know, Serena's come and stayed at
1759
01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:11.359
our house a couple of times, and she had a
1760
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:14.239
birthday here once, and you know, so like it's it's
1761
01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.039
not just like I'm a fan, like you know, it's
1762
01:33:17.359 --> 01:33:20.880
kind of corny, but I call her Auntie, you know,
1763
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:25.479
like that all started as a joke because if you're
1764
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:28.680
familiar with Richard Patiko, he was a male actor at
1765
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:30.920
the time. He was like Playgirl Man of the Year
1766
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.680
nineteen seventy eight, right, Howie, I love you. I just
1767
01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:38.800
adore him and his wife, And you know, I had
1768
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:41.239
mentioned to Serena that, like, I want to adopt them
1769
01:33:41.279 --> 01:33:44.119
as like my adoptive parents, Like I wish that they
1770
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:46.640
were my parents. They're just so cool. And she goes, well,
1771
01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:48.920
then what would I be like your auntie? And that's
1772
01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:52.000
how that started. So she calls me nephew and niece
1773
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:54.960
to you know, my wife, and so we always just
1774
01:33:55.039 --> 01:33:57.479
you know, it might sound weird, but that's just our
1775
01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:03.399
banter that we have great, you know. And so mid
1776
01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:06.560
mid March, I went and her and I got a
1777
01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:09.520
hotel suite and I went and we stayed together and
1778
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:13.800
worked on her release the two volumes, and I will say,
1779
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:17.239
like the wild Heart, the Leslie Winston has full commentary
1780
01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:22.000
from Leslie and myself And as far as I know,
1781
01:34:22.760 --> 01:34:27.000
one Hunter again n certain that no one has ever
1782
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:30.840
done a commentary on their loops before, So that is
1783
01:34:30.840 --> 01:34:33.079
a first. You know, they've they've watched films and done
1784
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:37.039
commentaries on that, or maybe someone has done commentaries over loops,
1785
01:34:37.399 --> 01:34:40.439
but not with the Star of the Loops, you know.
1786
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:42.880
So that's part of the deluxe that I can get here,
1787
01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:46.840
and that's because I have these relationships, these friendships with them.
1788
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:52.239
So Serena and I we hung out for four days,
1789
01:34:52.680 --> 01:34:56.239
recorded about five hours worth of commentary. Because these there's
1790
01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.359
two volumes, so one will come out that'll be my
1791
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:02.560
next release, which I am not going to commit to
1792
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:06.640
a release date, but probably going to be announced really soon.
1793
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:09.680
That's not going to be very long, hopefully. And then
1794
01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:13.520
and then the Volume two will come out next year,
1795
01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:16.239
so and most of that is actually already done. Most
1796
01:35:16.279 --> 01:35:19.319
of the both of them are actually already done, so
1797
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:22.880
and then probably after that there'll be another Endless Ecstasy volume,
1798
01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:28.640
just a general loop collection. At the end of July,
1799
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:32.000
I'll be going to stay with Rondo Joe Petty, Ronda
1800
01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:35.079
I love you, so we can do her commentary for
1801
01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:38.439
her collection. I can't wait to meet her dog Billy
1802
01:35:38.560 --> 01:35:41.560
as well. You know, we text dog pictures to each
1803
01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:43.359
other like all the time, you know. I mean, that's
1804
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:48.199
the kind of relationships that we have. And hers is
1805
01:35:48.239 --> 01:35:50.600
going to be called fierce, That's that's the word that
1806
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:54.800
she uses to describe herself. And her collection is going
1807
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:56.199
to be really good as well. A lot of her
1808
01:35:56.239 --> 01:35:58.319
loops were that I had were in really good condition.
1809
01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:03.520
And I'll say often times sometimes I have three, four,
1810
01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:06.840
five copies of one thing and I'll transfer all of
1811
01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:10.319
them and use the best, you know, the best version
1812
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:12.720
that I could find, so that that in itself is
1813
01:36:12.760 --> 01:36:14.880
a lot of work because it's really hard to you know,
1814
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:17.760
even with your your little spyglass when you're looking at
1815
01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:21.800
you know, on your lightboard, you can't really see what's
1816
01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:23.840
going on in that tiny frame. You know, you might
1817
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:27.520
get a hint of like what the colors are, you know,
1818
01:36:27.560 --> 01:36:29.640
how how vibrant your colors are going to be, but
1819
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:32.199
you know you'll transfer it and go. I mean there's
1820
01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:34.640
a line down the whole you know, the whole length
1821
01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:37.560
of the movie because someone had you know, dust in
1822
01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:39.720
their projector gate when they were showing it, and it's
1823
01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:40.479
it's damaged.
1824
01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:42.840
You know. Not only that you mentioned it earlier, we
1825
01:36:42.840 --> 01:36:44.840
should talk about for just at least a split second,
1826
01:36:44.920 --> 01:36:48.319
being on a storage space. All this costs. Archiving all
1827
01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:52.359
this properly on like proper good hard drives is one
1828
01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:54.760
of the most expensive aspects of all of this, especially
1829
01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:57.199
right now we talked about you know, anti AI and
1830
01:36:57.239 --> 01:37:00.079
all that stuff. AI bullshit has raised the price on
1831
01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:04.319
storage like more than threefold what it was even eighteen
1832
01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:07.600
twenty months ago. It is shockingly high right now. So
1833
01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:10.159
that's even more reason people need to be supporting all
1834
01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:10.840
of this for sure.
1835
01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:14.319
Yeah, and I'm getting ready I've kind of almost maxed
1836
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:17.000
out my existing storage, so I'm getting ready to I
1837
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:20.000
have to buy, like, you know, another another tower so
1838
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:24.319
I can put all the drives in. And it's a
1839
01:37:24.359 --> 01:37:26.319
scary thing too, because everything needs to have a backup,
1840
01:37:26.319 --> 01:37:30.159
and I'm constantly running backups because you know, I learned
1841
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:35.000
the hard lesson about two years ago. I had hard
1842
01:37:35.079 --> 01:37:38.319
drive crash on me and then come to realize that
1843
01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:43.119
my backup program hadn't backed up in months. So I
1844
01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:46.640
lost a ton of a ton of data, a ton
1845
01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.159
of work. I'm still not certain exactly what I lost,
1846
01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:55.800
to be honest with you, And trying to get a
1847
01:37:55.920 --> 01:38:02.479
hard drive repaired is like rant some so these places
1848
01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:05.600
will you know, and most of these places you go
1849
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:08.680
in you drop it off at some random office that
1850
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:12.159
there's nobody there, and they ship it to Seattle or somewhere,
1851
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:13.640
you know, because they're going to put it in this
1852
01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:16.239
you know, uh what do you call it? Uh, you know,
1853
01:38:16.560 --> 01:38:18.920
dust free room or whatever and all this kind of stuff.
1854
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:21.239
And and some of these are like have helium inside
1855
01:38:21.279 --> 01:38:25.359
and all this garbage. Now, so I mean they were like,
1856
01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:27.840
you know, yeah, it could cost you like six grand
1857
01:38:27.880 --> 01:38:30.000
to get your your data back, and it was like,
1858
01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:32.920
are you like seriously like and they're like, and there's
1859
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:34.760
no guarantee that you're actually going to get anything because
1860
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:36.359
we might open it up and you know, it might
1861
01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:38.760
just be destroyed. So it's just the whole thing is
1862
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:41.159
a racket. So if you have a lot of data,
1863
01:38:41.720 --> 01:38:44.600
you know, back it up, you know, at least once
1864
01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:48.439
a week, you know, I'm verifying that my my backups
1865
01:38:48.479 --> 01:38:51.159
are running you know, pretty much daily, but once a week,
1866
01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:53.359
I I you know, I just go to bed and
1867
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.239
run them, let them do their thing for a day
1868
01:38:56.319 --> 01:39:00.960
or two, you know, and and and honest, pretty much
1869
01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:04.359
I won't say twenty four hours a day, but close
1870
01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:07.760
to it. At least one computer is running, you know,
1871
01:39:07.880 --> 01:39:11.319
doing doing the the main you know, you put your
1872
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:13.520
filters on and everything and you try to do like
1873
01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:18.359
the basic restoration and hopefully your your settings are going
1874
01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:22.720
to uh function appropriately on on the frames. And again,
1875
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:27.199
because these are so small, sometimes movements aren't even captured
1876
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.680
because you know, you're you're not you know, you're only
1877
01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:35.319
doing like sixteen or eighteen frames per second, so you
1878
01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:40.319
don't get that that high you know, uh velocity movement
1879
01:39:40.399 --> 01:39:42.640
that that you would you know, with a higher frame rate,
1880
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:46.079
so so you have that to factor in. And then
1881
01:39:46.600 --> 01:39:50.239
if you know, if the the image is faint or
1882
01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:54.800
it was manufactured poorly, you know, now you could potentially
1883
01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:57.239
if your filters are on too too strong, you get
1884
01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:00.800
to a point where like fingertips or tips of other things,
1885
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:04.119
if you know what I mean, disappear, uh, you know,
1886
01:40:04.199 --> 01:40:08.399
certain fluids disappear. You know, you know, there'll be a
1887
01:40:08.479 --> 01:40:12.239
quick movement and like someone's hand will completely disappear. So
1888
01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:15.199
you have to you know, sometimes I have to go
1889
01:40:15.319 --> 01:40:17.880
back and you know, start that section all over again,
1890
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:21.359
and you know, go section by section and find the
1891
01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:24.640
right settings. And then you also want to make sure
1892
01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:28.520
that that it still has you know, it's not too
1893
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.479
different from the remaining so that you you don't see
1894
01:40:31.520 --> 01:40:34.119
a difference in quality when you go from one scene
1895
01:40:34.159 --> 01:40:37.399
to another, uh, you know, and then sometimes you have
1896
01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:41.159
to be really light on those filters, which means more
1897
01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:45.720
manual corrections, you know. And as there's some that I've
1898
01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:48.199
probably said this already, but I've spent like a week
1899
01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:52.039
plus working on you know, eight minutes of footage and
1900
01:40:52.159 --> 01:40:56.279
some of you if you go from the average somewhere
1901
01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:59.960
around like eight thousand to ten thousand frames just you know,
1902
01:41:00.159 --> 01:41:03.760
just for that alone. And then once I kind of
1903
01:41:03.800 --> 01:41:05.159
sit there and you know, I'm surprised I do enough
1904
01:41:05.159 --> 01:41:07.479
carpal tunnel from going you know, the little you know,
1905
01:41:07.720 --> 01:41:09.520
frame by frame by frame by frame. Then you see
1906
01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:11.319
something and it's like, oh, you know, when you fix that,
1907
01:41:11.439 --> 01:41:13.399
and and then I you know, and I get really
1908
01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:17.600
obsessive with it, and and so, I mean it is
1909
01:41:17.640 --> 01:41:19.840
a lot of work. And I've even put something online
1910
01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:22.119
on you know, check me on the socials. The more
1911
01:41:22.159 --> 01:41:26.079
explicit stuff is on x and or Twitter and Blue
1912
01:41:26.079 --> 01:41:29.479
Sky because they allow it. And then there's stuff on
1913
01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:34.119
Facebook and Instagram as well. Hopefully I'm probably about ready
1914
01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:37.880
to get kicked off of there as it is. They've
1915
01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:41.000
threatened me a thousand times too. Yeah, I mean, it's
1916
01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:45.439
it's just so ridiculous saying that I'm soliciting sex and
1917
01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:47.840
I was like, no, it's just a photo, like there's
1918
01:41:47.840 --> 01:41:51.960
not even any text on, you know anyways, But you know,
1919
01:41:52.000 --> 01:41:55.039
I put stuff online to show people, you know, exactly
1920
01:41:55.359 --> 01:41:59.039
like what the restoration process is, you know, to try
1921
01:41:59.079 --> 01:42:01.560
to promote that idea, get them to see like, yeah,
1922
01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:03.399
it doesn't look like garbage. You know, please go buy
1923
01:42:03.399 --> 01:42:06.319
my stuff. Uh, and I haven't posted something a few
1924
01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:08.199
days ago just like do you want to see a
1925
01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:10.039
frame by frame? And it was like two minutes of
1926
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:13.479
me just you know, you know, correct this a couple
1927
01:42:13.479 --> 01:42:16.159
of frames and blot this out. That didn't work, let
1928
01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:18.159
me delete it, you know, try this, you know, try
1929
01:42:18.199 --> 01:42:20.960
this other filter, you know, and going through it. And
1930
01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:25.159
you know, some people you know appreciate that and enjoy that,
1931
01:42:25.880 --> 01:42:28.640
but it is it is a lot of work. But
1932
01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:34.960
then so I'll do the the the Ronda set with her.
1933
01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.239
We'll have of course commentary on that, and then there's
1934
01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:44.199
two volumes of the sous Niro. Hers is called Tigris,
1935
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:47.560
and I'm hoping to get commentary with her. She's a
1936
01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:52.560
little bit difficult to connect with, but I'm I'm hanging
1937
01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:55.079
in there to make sure that, you know, if if
1938
01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:56.960
I have to wait, I have to wait because I
1939
01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:01.640
want to have that commentary. There's ever I mean, I've
1940
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:08.199
mapped out probably fifty some releases that that you know,
1941
01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:11.319
and I could I could go with. There's hundreds that
1942
01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:14.439
I could do. Of course, it's just a matter of
1943
01:43:14.439 --> 01:43:19.279
time and a matter of sales. Yeah. The the other
1944
01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:22.279
deluxe editions. I'm gonna do seven to fifty of each
1945
01:43:22.279 --> 01:43:25.920
of those, so Serena and Sue Narrows and Rondo will
1946
01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:29.600
be seven fifty. I don't think at this point that
1947
01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:33.319
I can go higher than that without sitting on stuff
1948
01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:35.479
for a while. You know, I understand that there's a
1949
01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:38.239
limited you know, this is a niche of a niche,
1950
01:43:40.199 --> 01:43:42.680
you know, but hopefully like you know, fans of like
1951
01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.720
Milusine and the Vinegar Syndrome stuff will will you know,
1952
01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:49.479
realize that I exist, and you know, Vinegar Syndrome is
1953
01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:53.520
never going to touch eight millimeters stuff, right, you know?
1954
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:56.159
The only eight millimeter that they've included on any of
1955
01:43:56.159 --> 01:44:01.359
their releases are the uh Behind the Green Door and
1956
01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:04.319
and that I know of, I mean they Behind the
1957
01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:08.159
Green Door and The Resurrection of Eve. I provided the
1958
01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:13.199
eight millimeter versions of those films for the extras, and
1959
01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:15.960
also sent them Sodom and Gomora that they're going to
1960
01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:19.319
include on on that one as well. You know, I
1961
01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:23.800
just I submitted the thirty five millimeter trailer that I
1962
01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:26.640
transferred and restored for Raw Love that was on this
1963
01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:31.800
Sexploiters Raw Love split that Keno put out, Yeah, and
1964
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:35.279
it was kind of funny because that came about because
1965
01:44:35.279 --> 01:44:38.119
I had posted a photo of a box of stuff
1966
01:44:38.119 --> 01:44:41.000
that I was digging through that had some thirty five
1967
01:44:41.039 --> 01:44:43.720
millimeter trailers in it, you know, with just some masking
1968
01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:47.199
tape that said Raw Love and and Bunny Yeger Knew
1969
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.920
Las Vegas and and Lisa Patucci from something where video
1970
01:44:51.119 --> 01:44:53.840
like messaged me like right away and was like, hey,
1971
01:44:54.279 --> 01:44:57.399
I saw in that box, you know, like eagle eye
1972
01:44:57.479 --> 01:45:01.760
these you know these you know saw that and you know,
1973
01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:05.760
you know, can you is that transferable? So luckily I
1974
01:45:05.760 --> 01:45:08.239
had two copies of Raw Love because one was trashed,
1975
01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:12.399
all the all the perforations were were, uh, we're broken out.
1976
01:45:13.039 --> 01:45:15.560
The second one was probably only missing like a couple
1977
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:18.279
seconds of footage at the beginning in the end, but
1978
01:45:18.319 --> 01:45:20.079
I was able and it was in great condition, so
1979
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:22.319
I barely even had to clean it up. So I
1980
01:45:22.359 --> 01:45:24.960
restored that and uh sent that to a Kenot to
1981
01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:27.399
include on that and it's just like a random thing
1982
01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:30.359
that just popped up and I was, you know, last minute,
1983
01:45:30.399 --> 01:45:32.680
and they were able to include it. Unfortunately, the Bunny
1984
01:45:32.720 --> 01:45:35.560
Aeger New Las Vegas trailer that I had, it was
1985
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:38.000
okay for about the first half and then it's really
1986
01:45:38.039 --> 01:45:41.840
curled on the second side. So I don't have a
1987
01:45:42.840 --> 01:45:46.039
you know, solid enough equipment to do something with that
1988
01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:48.319
much damage on I meanythink that's gonna flatten it out
1989
01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:52.079
to that degree, So you know, it's it's not gonna
1990
01:45:52.119 --> 01:45:54.399
have the trailer on there, but it would probably be
1991
01:45:54.439 --> 01:45:56.960
a lot of a lot of work for a little
1992
01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:01.119
bit of Someone says, I'm curious about the possibility of
1993
01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:06.079
any Gay Loop collections. So when I talk about upcoming releases,
1994
01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:10.960
I'm not gonna give total specifics, but of course Endless Ecstasy.
1995
01:46:10.960 --> 01:46:13.399
I'm calling it endless because I can essentially put out
1996
01:46:13.439 --> 01:46:18.159
an endless amount of these, and uh, you know, those
1997
01:46:18.199 --> 01:46:23.399
will be frequent, Uh, probably more frequent than than anything,
1998
01:46:24.119 --> 01:46:27.239
because they're easier to do. You know, they're easier for
1999
01:46:27.279 --> 01:46:29.600
me to do than the others. They don't require no
2000
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:33.239
commentary and all of those types of things. But I
2001
01:46:33.279 --> 01:46:36.079
do have some other deluxe versions that I'm gonna do
2002
01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:40.560
for specific stars. Uh, those won't have commentaries because many
2003
01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:44.600
of them are dead unfortunately, or you know, have disappeared,
2004
01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:48.239
or you know, maybe there could be commentaries, but they
2005
01:46:48.439 --> 01:46:52.119
they wouldn't be with the the performer, so you know,
2006
01:46:52.159 --> 01:46:55.600
I'll look at what my options are when I get
2007
01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:58.800
to those. But there's dozens and dozens of of those
2008
01:46:58.840 --> 01:47:01.840
that I have planned, and of course it all depends
2009
01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:03.399
on the condition of the material.
2010
01:47:04.479 --> 01:47:04.640
You know.
2011
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:06.640
I could go through and transfer a bunch of stuff
2012
01:47:06.640 --> 01:47:08.960
and then realize that, you know, maybe I have twenty
2013
01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.159
films by a certain person, and then I realized that
2014
01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:14.720
five or six you know, aren't aren't usable, So then
2015
01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:17.920
I'll start searching for those to try to to try
2016
01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:21.079
to get those. I hate paying a lot of money
2017
01:47:21.079 --> 01:47:24.840
for stuff because I I you know, I buy people's collections,
2018
01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:28.920
and and because I've been doing you know, even though
2019
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:30.920
I've only have two releases, I've been working on this
2020
01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:34.439
for like three or four years now. So uh, once
2021
01:47:34.479 --> 01:47:38.000
you kind of get known for, you know, collecting a
2022
01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:41.000
certain thing, people start contacting you. And I had a
2023
01:47:41.039 --> 01:47:43.199
few places that were like, you know, hey, I'm you know,
2024
01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:46.319
I'm getting out of the dealer business, you know, And
2025
01:47:46.399 --> 01:47:49.159
I'd buy seven hundred loops from them at one time,
2026
01:47:49.279 --> 01:47:52.640
or fifteen hundred loops or you know, or whatnot. And uh,
2027
01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:58.760
and honestly, in the course of I'm gonna say, I mean,
2028
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:00.840
within probably at one point. Within about a year and
2029
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:04.439
a half, I doubled my you know, my collection of
2030
01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:08.960
Luke's because I was buying so much and getting them
2031
01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:12.079
you know at a at a you know, a dealer cost,
2032
01:48:13.199 --> 01:48:18.520
you know, and the collector market now unfortunately, I guess,
2033
01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:21.439
fortunately if you are a seller, but unfortunately if you
2034
01:48:21.520 --> 01:48:27.920
are a purchaser, has has just gone. It's backwards ever
2035
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:33.439
since eBay got rid of their adults only section, because
2036
01:48:33.439 --> 01:48:34.880
it used to buy a ton of stuff on eBay,
2037
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:36.920
and it was it was reasonably the priced even if
2038
01:48:36.920 --> 01:48:38.600
you were bidding on it, you still get it for
2039
01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:40.239
for you know, a decent price.
2040
01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:41.479
You know.
2041
01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:43.560
Now you look on eBay and people are selling you know,
2042
01:48:43.680 --> 01:48:45.920
newdy magazines from the fifties, which is stuff that I'm
2043
01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:50.920
more actively collecting now than than anything. Uh, you know,
2044
01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:53.439
they just think because it's from nineteen fifty nine, it's
2045
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:56.000
worth seventy nine ninety nine. You know, it's like there's
2046
01:48:56.079 --> 01:49:00.159
really like three nude pictures in there and a bunch
2047
01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:03.439
of articles about hunting, you know, so it's like, you know,
2048
01:49:03.680 --> 01:49:06.680
like it's it's not worth you know, maybe you have
2049
01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:09.359
you know Jane Mansfield on the cover. Yeah, you could
2050
01:49:09.359 --> 01:49:12.079
probably get thirty bucks for that. But but but you know,
2051
01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:14.119
it's it's it's a lot of people that don't know
2052
01:49:14.680 --> 01:49:16.920
what they're you know, what they have and what the
2053
01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:21.520
value is. So everything is like really overpriced. The things
2054
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:23.279
that I'm selling on my website, you know, I have
2055
01:49:23.359 --> 01:49:25.640
a store. There's posters on there, and some of them
2056
01:49:25.680 --> 01:49:30.199
are in the best quality you're ever gonna find, you know, uncirculated,
2057
01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:33.960
you know, barely folded. And then and I sell some
2058
01:49:34.000 --> 01:49:36.079
extra magazines and some loops and stuff. And I'm not
2059
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:40.319
really uh focusing so much on a store. They just
2060
01:49:40.359 --> 01:49:42.720
have things to get rid of. You know, I'm selling
2061
01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:46.279
magazines for seven ninety nine to twelve ninety nine that
2062
01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:48.760
other places are trying to sell for thirty nine ninety nine.
2063
01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:52.119
So once that stuff, you know, I can liquidate the
2064
01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:54.000
extras that I have and the things that I don't need.
2065
01:49:54.239 --> 01:49:56.000
You know, Primarily, the store is just going to function
2066
01:49:56.079 --> 01:50:01.159
for my releases, and there's going to be I mean,
2067
01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:03.239
I'll tell you there's gonna be a big boob series
2068
01:50:03.279 --> 01:50:11.720
called Bazoombas. I mean, who doesn't love the big business? Yeah, Bazoombas. Uh.
2069
01:50:11.800 --> 01:50:15.199
Someone mentioned in the chat they're gonna be gay collections
2070
01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:18.920
and I am working on starting that next year. That
2071
01:50:19.039 --> 01:50:22.279
series will be called Man to Man. I'm not super
2072
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:26.079
knowledgeable about that genre, not that I'm not interested in it.
2073
01:50:26.199 --> 01:50:30.239
Uh So I'm gonna be relying a lot on Casey
2074
01:50:30.239 --> 01:50:34.000
Scott for you know, guidance and support on that, you know,
2075
01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.520
with his knowledge of the genre and the performers and stuff,
2076
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:41.880
because I'm going into that semi blind. There's gonna be
2077
01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:46.960
some special editions, like the deluxe versions of specific lines,
2078
01:50:47.079 --> 01:50:53.800
like specific companies. Uh, there's gonna be I'm also planning
2079
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:59.199
to do some like really old like pin up, bur lesque,
2080
01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:02.000
newty type stuff. Now I have I have a lot
2081
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:05.199
of that stuff, and and uh, you know, some of
2082
01:51:05.199 --> 01:51:08.039
it may have already been released, but you know, my
2083
01:51:10.239 --> 01:51:12.920
the reality is is my versions will will be in
2084
01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:16.319
higher quality than you know, no knock to to what
2085
01:51:16.399 --> 01:51:21.439
was out before. You know, It's just that was the
2086
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:23.560
the way that they could do it when they did it,
2087
01:51:24.319 --> 01:51:28.479
you know, Now you know I have the ability to. Yeah,
2088
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:32.800
So I mean there's there's a lot of stuff, you know,
2089
01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:35.880
in the works, and I have a ton of it
2090
01:51:35.920 --> 01:51:39.079
already transferred initially, so it's just a matter of finding
2091
01:51:39.119 --> 01:51:41.680
the time to you know, do and I do everything here,
2092
01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:45.399
like from top to bottom. I mean, I I assemble
2093
01:51:45.479 --> 01:51:47.520
the product. You know, my wife helps me when you can.
2094
01:51:47.960 --> 01:51:50.680
You know, I'm packing your orders, I'm shrink wrapping your stuff.
2095
01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:56.359
Every single thing, you know is I'm touching it. The
2096
01:51:56.359 --> 01:51:58.960
only thing I don't do is actually print the covers.
2097
01:51:59.439 --> 01:51:59.600
You know.
2098
01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:03.239
Maybe I could fly to Taiwan and do it and
2099
01:52:03.560 --> 01:52:05.560
get a discount. I don't know if I were able
2100
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:07.399
to do it myself, but but yeah, I mean it.
2101
01:52:07.640 --> 01:52:12.319
You know, you need that old photocopy, you know.
2102
01:52:12.359 --> 01:52:14.319
And I want to make things fun. That's why they
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come in a bag. That's why there's trading cards with them.
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I'm going to be introducing some new trading cards soon.
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Lisa's intrees was the you know, one of the new
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trading cards. There'll be Serena cards in hers. You might
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not like this, but there may be some art cards
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in Serena's release. I know how you feel about art cards.
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I'm just kidding. I'm into them. I just want to
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do more with them. Yeah, reality, I just wish they're
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a little more useful. But I mean, I will say,
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you know, speaking of art, it was kind of a unique, interesting,
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like full circle moment of in my magazine for me,
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the the brand new release is the first release and
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the list of Blu Ray releases for the month, and
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it was like, you know, after the amount of magazines
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that Mark has worked on, after everything that has come,
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it's just so nice to be able to call attention
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to this in my you know, a little di y
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magazine that's you know, kind of getting out there to
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more and more people and hopefully it helps get the
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word out for you.
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You know, and I appreciate having me on. I mean,
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I'm I'm kind of in a uh you know, I'm
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in the adult content or you know, oh my god.
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You know, it's it's ridiculous. I mean, I have a
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bank accounts closed on me by the banks. It's just
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it's it's it's it's just so ridiculous. Everything is under
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attack these days, you know. I mean, we're regressing so
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so so far, and part of that just makes me
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drive even harder to do this. You know. It's like,
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you know, you you push back on me, I'm gonna
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01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:44.119
push back. You know. It's it's like that that uh,
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that speech in Rocky Balboa. You know, it's not how
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hard you can hit. It's how hard you can you know,
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how much you can take and keep moving forward. So
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you know, I love you too, Howie, and uh, you know,
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so some of it is just I'm stubborn and I
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just keep pushing forward. And I hope people will support
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and see the love. And you know, I appreciate you
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giving me a platform to do this. You know, like
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I said, I'm kind of coming out of the shadows.
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I've never really you know, promoted myself personally as as
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doing this. You know, even when I was doing the
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rutery more stuff, it was never like, you know, I
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never published, you know, I would run Ruter's, Rudy's Facebook
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01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:21.039
page and all of that stuff, and it was never
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01:54:21.119 --> 01:54:25.039
like me plugging myself in the posts. It was always
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01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:28.880
about Rudy. This is all about you know, these these films.
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You know, I just happened to be the person who's
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01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:34.319
who's doing it, you know, dumb enough to do it,
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01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:37.079
I guess because nobody else will. So I guess that's
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01:54:37.079 --> 01:54:39.439
a good thing, because you know, it created an opening
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01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:41.720
for me to to step in and do that. But
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01:54:41.800 --> 01:54:43.840
you know, I tend to take on I think, like
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I said, you know, the projects with the most most
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legwork involved. And I just hope people can appreciate that
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and you know, support and I appreciate you giving me
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the space to talk about you know, dirty movies on
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your on.
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Your thing always and I mean I've already told do this,
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01:55:00.319 --> 01:55:02.159
but every single time you announce something and will be
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01:55:02.199 --> 01:55:04.880
blasted on all my socials because more and more people
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01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:06.319
need to see these more and more people need to
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understand the importance of them. I mean, even just one
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01:55:09.640 --> 01:55:12.000
person trying out one of them because it looks interesting
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01:55:12.119 --> 01:55:14.640
and seeing the card on the inside and actually reading
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it is something that could change the exact mindset of
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01:55:17.720 --> 01:55:21.399
somebody that suddenly becomes the next big archiver of this
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01:55:21.640 --> 01:55:24.359
entire hobby. Who knows like it's just one of those
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01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:27.640
moments we just all lift each other up. Otherwise this
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01:55:27.720 --> 01:55:30.720
whole thing could could fail at any moment. Basically, we
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01:55:30.760 --> 01:55:33.640
are at that age of people passing away a film,
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deteriorating of collectors and not being able to afford things
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01:55:37.239 --> 01:55:40.159
and having shit thrown away by landlords, like all of
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01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:41.479
these things are always at risk.
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But at the same time, I mean, we live it's
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01:55:44.960 --> 01:55:48.560
an amazing period, you know, I mean I'm sitting there
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01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:54.720
looking at a pile of genre and uhds and just
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01:55:54.840 --> 01:55:58.039
like I mean, I'm almost in tears, thinking like, man,
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01:55:58.760 --> 01:56:01.319
how far have we come? You know, the old far
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01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:03.199
to me like kids these days they don't know how
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you know, how good they had it, you know. I mean,
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I'm remembering in the night the first time I the
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first genre in the movie I saw was grapes of
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01:56:09.680 --> 01:56:13.000
death blew my mind totally in French. Could barely even
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01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:15.079
see what was going on. It like I'm like, like
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01:56:15.159 --> 01:56:18.359
something here is amazing, you know, and and uh you
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01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:20.640
know it was. It was ironic because then somehow I
2190
01:56:20.680 --> 01:56:24.039
contacted him and and he didn't have a computer, so
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01:56:24.079 --> 01:56:26.880
we would fax if people even understand what a fax
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01:56:26.920 --> 01:56:31.840
machine is. And he would always he would always complain
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01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:34.760
because when I would fax, he'd be asleep, so he'd
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01:56:34.800 --> 01:56:37.199
be angry at me because I'd wake him up, you know,
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01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:39.680
and we'd go back and forth and and you know,
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01:56:39.720 --> 01:56:41.239
he would tell me what was going on, and he
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01:56:41.319 --> 01:56:44.079
was he was really really sweet. You know. He would
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01:56:44.119 --> 01:56:46.319
send me gifts, like he sent me like a two
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01:56:46.319 --> 01:56:49.600
sheet fascination poster and signed it like an original. He
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01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:51.319
would have a book that would come out and he
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01:56:51.319 --> 01:56:52.840
would he would sign it and send it to me,
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01:56:54.159 --> 01:56:57.600
you know, So like I've kind of been able to cultivate,
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01:56:57.720 --> 01:57:00.239
you know, like I said, these relationships. I one of
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01:57:00.239 --> 01:57:02.199
one of my prized possessions is one of his smoking
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01:57:02.239 --> 01:57:04.880
pipes that was gifted to me by his son after
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01:57:05.119 --> 01:57:08.039
after he passed, you know. And I have you know,
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01:57:08.079 --> 01:57:12.359
I have, like adult actresses who have passed, I have
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01:57:12.479 --> 01:57:14.359
some of their ashes, you know, They've given to me
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01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:17.319
by family members, you know, and those things are you know,
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01:57:17.399 --> 01:57:19.720
it's it's not just like a morbid collectors out of them.
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01:57:19.720 --> 01:57:22.479
I mean, it's just something that's personal, like somebody gave
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01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:24.199
us to me, like you know, it's it's it's a
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01:57:24.359 --> 01:57:28.680
it's an honor to have those things, and and uh,
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01:57:29.079 --> 01:57:31.720
you know, have that respect that somebody would appreciate me
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01:57:31.760 --> 01:57:34.479
that much to you know, consider me family or you
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01:57:34.479 --> 01:57:35.520
know whatnot so.
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01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:40.560
Well, Mark, you've clearly had this your entire life. That
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this neck for archiving, this neck, for giving integrity and
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01:57:43.720 --> 01:57:46.239
respect to those that have not had it before. And uh,
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I hope people see that and feel intrigued to to
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at least pick one up. Ultra Flesh archives dot Com.
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01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:54.239
The sort of the stores open. Uh. I know a
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01:57:54.239 --> 01:57:56.359
lot of people have already been getting this brand new release.
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01:57:56.720 --> 01:58:00.319
Mine was ordered late, but I hope to receive mine
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01:58:00.720 --> 01:58:03.720
and I cannot wait. These are these are great. I
2226
01:58:04.239 --> 01:58:06.720
will continue to support and will continue to push it
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01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:09.640
out there because somebody needs to. And you know, like
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01:58:09.680 --> 01:58:13.840
we're just alluding to everything from PayPal stopping to provide
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01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:17.560
payment services for certain companies, to eBay shutting down the
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01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.399
adult side, to Facebook never allowing any of it and
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01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:23.479
shutting down accounts when they freaking reference it. It's all
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01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:25.960
getting far too prudish. And and the way that you
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01:58:25.960 --> 01:58:28.319
can lift everybody up in the sector is just throw
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01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:30.399
a little dosh their way. I mean, it's one release.
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01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:33.880
Come on, Yeah, I appreciate you let me blabber for
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01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:37.119
two hours. You know, I hope I didn't bore anybody
2237
01:58:37.159 --> 01:58:39.039
out there and not at all. You know, hit me
2238
01:58:39.119 --> 01:58:42.039
up online and you know, leave comments on the social
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01:58:42.079 --> 01:58:45.079
media's and you know, I appreciate shares and anything you
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01:58:45.079 --> 01:58:47.359
could do to, you know, to help. I'm as as
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01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:50.079
grassroots and as as possibly can be. You know, I
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01:58:50.079 --> 01:58:53.640
can't advertise anywhere, you know, so I'm just relying on
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01:58:53.760 --> 01:58:54.399
word of mouth.
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01:58:54.840 --> 01:58:59.319
So appreciate it absolutely everybody Again, Ultra Flesh Archives dot
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01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.119
com Mark, we'll have to do the skin after we
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01:59:01.199 --> 01:59:03.279
got three or four more limited editions. We'll come back
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01:59:03.279 --> 01:59:04.159
and highlight him.
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01:59:04.600 --> 01:59:06.119
Thank you, Ryan, appreciate it so much.
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01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:07.720
Thanks so much. We'll talk soon.
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All right, take care, bye all.
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01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:12.680
Thank you for watching The Disconnected. On the way out,
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Okay, I'm ready.
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I'm ready.
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