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You are listening to Supplement Source, the official podcast of the Council for Responsible Nutrition.
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And now your host, Jeff Ventura.
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Hello, and thank you for listening to Supplement Source.
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My name is Jeff Ventura, and I'm the Vice President of Communications here at the Council for Responsible Nutrition in Washington, D.C.
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On this episode of Supplement Source, I'm joined by Laura Ison, Senior Marketing and Business Development Manager at Baltim Human Nutrition and Health.
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And also Eric Chapio, PhD R D, Senior Manager of Nutrition Science at Balcom Human Nutrition and Health, and Dr.
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Emily Ho, endowed chair and director of the Linus Pauling Institute and University Distinguished Professor at Oregon State.
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Together, we're exploring the fascinating science of epigenetics and methylation and the roles that nutrients like folate and choline may play from prenatal nutrition through healthy aging.
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Welcome all.
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So, Lauren, um, I guess first question is for you.
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The healthy aging category has been accelerating, uh, and prenatal is a mature space looking for differentiation.
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What is driving brand and consumer interest in the space right now?
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Well, first off, we're so excited to be here today.
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Thank you for having us back again.
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So, what we're really seeing here, you know, consumers are we're living longer and we're looking for ways to live better while we're living longer.
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So that's creating a fundamental shift on how consumers think about aging.
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They're becoming increasingly interested in what's happening at the cellular level, and brands are responding by looking for nutrition solutions that support foundational biology rather than addressing individual symptoms.
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So, um, in many ways, consumers are being encouraged to take control of their chronological age, but also their biological age.
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Research shows us that there's a strong interest in longevity and cellular health, and we're seeing growing awareness in products on the shelf, in cellular health and methylation.
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At the same time, prenatal remains an incredibly important category.
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In fact, it's still so big, so big right now.
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Right, it's so big.
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It's it's projected to grow um really strongly still through 2029.
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Um, and you know, people know fully for prenatal nutrition.
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So, Jeff, as you said, like brands are looking for meaningful ways to differentiate.
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And so I think that conversation is no longer this simply like, does it contain folate over folic acid?
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It's becoming what form of folate is being used?
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How do I get it efficiently in the body?
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And the question is, where are those benefits beyond um pregnancy?
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That's where methylation for us becomes particularly interesting.
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It creates an opportunity to connect nutrients like folate into that broader range of health categories like um cognition, heart health, healthy aging, cellular health.
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And a quick fast fact on that is globally product launches containing methylfolate or 5 MTHF grew double digits over the last five years, whereas the B vitamin category grew just around 5%.
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That's telling us that innovation around bioactive 5 MTHF is growing over larger overall than the vitamin category alone.
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So those categories like cognition and healthy aging are expected to see growth.
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And that's all happening at the cellular level.
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What I would say there is whether you're really concerned about early development or healthy aging, they're both really all connected on how our cells function and that root biology.
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So if we can focus on the nutrients that are fueled by those mechanisms and the processes like methylation, then we're really starting to meet the consumer needs and how they're really getting interested in the science and that connects you to those better you benefits.
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I think that that sort of connects us to Emily and sort of what um what you know we can talk about with you today, Emily.
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Um, you know, given that backdrop, epigenetics, how is it different from our fixed DNA sequence?
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Yeah, that's a great question.
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So I like to think about um if you think back to your biology classes, you know, that DNA is really um, you know, has all the information that tells your body what to do.
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So I like to think of it kind of like the library of the cell, that it has all the pages, all the books that uh tells all our cells and bodies what what they need to do.
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Um the problem is um there are a lot of books.
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I'm here at a university.
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If you come to visit my university library, we also have a lot of books in that library.
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And the way if we laid down our DNA in a single line, it would take up a football field.
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Uh and we need to compact that really big information into a very small space.
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Our DNA structure has these proteins called histones that the DNA is compacted in.
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So if you come to my library, there are these crazy shelves that open and close, and there's a little button if you want to get a book that will open up the shelf.
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So our DNA is kind of like that.
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So epigenetics, which literally means outside the DNA, are kind of like the things that control those shelves.
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Um, and they're also kind of like sticky notes that also help direct us uh to where the information is that we need.
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So when you think about DNA, we need to be able to read the information to be able to get the right information.
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So those shelves that open and close, that button that helps open up the shelf so you can get the right book, those sticky notes that are there that make sure you get to the right page, are all those epigenetic changes that help direct the cell and the machinery to read that right information.
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So, how does methylation fit into that analogy?
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Methylation are the some of those things that push that button to open up the shelf and are the sticky notes that help direct the machinery to read the right information.
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So they're constant switches that help kind of turn on and turn off the ability of your cell to read the DNA and get the information that tells your cells what they need to do or what what they need to be.
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So they're a constant flux of turning on, turning off, um, and absolutely part of the machinery in terms of helping our body do what it needs to do.
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I'm always fascinated that to find out that we know these things.
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I mean, it's just like how did we come to understand this stuff?
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It's fantastic.
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Um, why is methylation so critical during pregnancy and early development?
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Well, like I said, methylation really is a big part of helping our bodies and our cells do the right thing.
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And if you think about during pregnancy, during development, we're literally going from a single cell to an entire body.
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So there's a lot of things that need to be coordinated in the right order and very quickly.
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And these methylation switches, um, constantly turning on, turning off things at the right time, are really what direct our bodies and our cells to get that information and that sequence correct.
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So if you don't have the uh the components that contribute to methylation, so folate, for example, is one big component of that methylation story.
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If you don't have enough of that, that whole sequence, all that machinery doesn't work as well and can have impacts in terms of that development process.
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Wow, that's really that's really fascinating.
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Let me ask you a question.
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Um, diet.
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What does diet fit into this at all?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Diet is a major component in terms of supporting pregnancy and development.
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Uh, and diet, uh, the methyl donors that are needed for methylation come from our diet.
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So folate that I just mentioned is a really important part of a healthy diet, especially during pregnancy.
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And there's a lot of other components in our diet that support both your genetic uh stability and your epigenetic stability.
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That's all important uh for your baby as it's growing.
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And I mean, uh I guess what we're also saying is that methylation isn't just a pregnancy story, right?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Uh so there's a couple things uh that you know what you eat is important for your baby.
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Um it's also important for your grandbaby as well, that there's this what's called transgenerational effect that that happens.
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But it doesn't just stop there.
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Um, even um as your baby grows uh and becomes an adult, uh, those methylation changes are shaping uh everything as as you age as well.
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And there's some thought that some dysregulation of that methylation or epigenetics plays almost an equal role to genetic changes in terms of your disease risk, um how well you age, um, chronic disease.
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Uh so supporting your epigenetics throughout your lifetime is absolutely important.
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Let me ask a question to Eric.
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Um, Eric, how does this, how does this all kind of uh make sense with regard to the concept of one carbon metabolism?
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What's that all about?
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Yeah, it's a great question.
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I mean, the one carbon metabolic system is basically the the sort of body's internal system to keep these single methyl groups moving around.
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Um you know, uh Emily gave that analogy of the library and making sure that uh this is pushing, uh sort of helping you find the right pages and sort of work in the proper way.
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An analogy that I know Lauren appreciated as she is the president of her local book club, so that warmed her heart.
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Uh but what I'll say is those individual methyl groups, those individual sort of bricks in the wall, so to speak, come from nutrients in your diet, as you mentioned, things like choline and folate.
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So as the system is moving and chugging along, this is sort of the fuel, the the part of the driving that engine to make sure that methylation continues uh properly.
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So the neat thing about so I think one nuance that people often sort of forget is that folate, which is sort of like the arguably one of the main drivers for this process, um, most of the folate that comes in our diet comes in the form of folic acid, right?
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Through fortification, largely supplementation.
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Um, but one thing that people don't often realize is that folic acid doesn't actually have that methyl group sort of built into it.
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Your body needs to go through a series of metabolic hoops, so to speak, um, to give that methyl group or make it prominent.
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And that's the way it happens with and that comes in the form of methylfolate, hence the name, right?
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Um but now the other nutrient, of course, that's pretty involved in this is choline, which has three methyl groups attached to it.
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So each of those methyl groups is important, right?
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Because you can think of these again as sort of bricks in the wall.
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Uh, you know, when you're uh trying to build a process, each of those individual bricks plays a part.
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So having these nutrients in your diet is incredibly important.
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So one cool thing that we uh have invested in one of our own products is a choline-enriched folate, which actually has seven methyl groups attached to it, which is fantastic.
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And so part of that technology that we wanted to see is how does that actually impact methylation sort of in its deepest level, in a cellular, at the deepest cellular level.
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So this is a study we just published uh in the spring of this year, um, which actually showed that with our Optofolin Plus product, um treating cells with that actually had a couple of different measurable impacts on markers of epigenetics.
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Number one was an increase in the methyl donor availability, a molecule called SAM, which is sort of like the active molecule that does the methylating itself.
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Um, second was we saw an increase in methylation capacity, or basically the ratio of SAM to PSA, which is kind of exactly what it sounds like, the ability of that cell to methylate.
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And then lastly was uh when we looked at DNA methylation itself, the 14 times, uh 14-fold increase in markers of methylation overall.
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So we're really excited about using this technology that we have with uh our new choline-enriched methylfolate uh to see how that can actually translate to specific markers of cellular health.
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But if I understand this, there's a nutrient gap to talk about here, right?
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I mean, can you share what the data shows on how many Americans fall short on folate and choline?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, you can see from large national-level surveys that uh people just aren't getting enough of these nutrients.
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I don't think this is necessarily a new story, right?
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We've known this for a long time.
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Um, for choline, more than 90% of Americans aren't getting enough choline in their diet.
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Of course, that varies based on which age and gender group you're talking about, but generally speaking, it's not great.
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Uh for folate, uh about 16% of Americans uh are not getting enough folate from diet alone.
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And for women uh age 50 plus, 51 plus, uh, it's about 30%, just about a third are not.
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So we often think of folate as being sort of solved uh thanks to fortification, but generally speaking, that's not the case.
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Lauren, let me ask you um a couple of different things here.
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Uh for brands and formulators who are listening to the show, what's the opportunity in connecting folate to the larger methylation and cellular health story?
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Um I know I'm talking like, you know, market research data with Google Trends, that sort of thing.
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And if listeners take away one idea uh about epigenetics, uh methylation and folate form, what should it be?
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Yeah, those are all great questions.
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I'll try and tackle one at a time here.
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So the opportunity um is to make folate relevant to more people, of course, across more stages of life.
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While consumers are really looking for a clearer reason to understand why folate matters, and that comes down to the form that Eric just mentioned.
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So historically, folate communications have centered around prenatal health.
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We covered that a little bit before, and that foundation will always be important.
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But new methylation research that we're conducting allows brands to now expand that conversation well beyond just pregnancy and connect folate with broader needs into those areas I mentioned, like cognition, heart health, healthy aging, broadly cellular health.
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We know from the trends reports there, like Google, that 60% of consumers find it extremely or very important to purchase longevity products.
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And then further to beyond that, 70% plan to continue to purchase it more in the future.
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So it's not even just the first stop, but what are they going to continue to do?
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So for formulators, it's not just a checkbox and prenatles or the multivitamins.
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It becomes a differentiating platform for them on the cellular nutrition point, right?
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So Eric mentioned he spent a good amount of time on the difference between folic acid and bioactive folate, and then beyond that, one step further, on a seven times advantage in methylation when you have a choline-enriched form of folate and the connection that both folate and choline bring to being able to contribute those additional methyl groups for methylation.
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And so the important point there is being able to say on a label, it's not just adding milligram micrograms and milligrams of folate, but actually contributing towards that functional biology and that root cause that we started the conversation on.
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Another important point might be that, you know, we have premium prenatal customers and healthy aging consumers, and those are highly motivated audiences, right?
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They're really looking for those thoughtfully formulated products backed by science and nutrients that are actually going to be utilized in the bodies.
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I'd say for brands, if they can communicate in a way that's clearly without worrying about the biology or the biochemistry, I should say, and they can create a meaningful differentiation through something like methylation and the claims that they can make.
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That's a really good way to bring this to the marketplace.
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And then for your second question, Jeff, I'd say about what's the big takeaway?
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You know, what do I want to leave everyone with at the end of the day for our listeners?
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Um, not all folates are the same, and really just every methyl counts.
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The form matters.
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Your genes may provide the blueprint, but certain nutrients can certainly help determine effectively how that blueprint blueprint is read.
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We'll bring it back to our book analogy and how that's utilized.
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But um we've heard today that through methylation, nutrients such as folate and choline can help supply methyl groups needed to support cellular health and function.
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So folate alone really isn't just a prenatal nutrient, but it's the right bioactive form, especially with being choline enriched.
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It can become part of a lifelong story around methylation, cellular health, healthy aging.
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Um, so it's not just about putting those micrograms on the label, but participating in the biology and getting that support that you're looking for.
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And um, we want to make sure that we're supporting that broader health stories.
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I'll leave you with Jeff, you know, every method counts.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Lauren Ison, Emily Ho, and Eric Capio, uh, the Balcom team, thank you so much for uh joining Supplement Source today.
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This is by far and away the most intelligent conversation I'm gonna have today.
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So I really do appreciate uh all that you have offered uh me and our listeners, and we do appreciate it and we love you to come back.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks for having us.
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Great thanks.