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00:00:10.480Welcome to another episode of Studio V Sessions with me, Bindra, owner of Bindra Productions here in Orlando, Florida.
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00:00:18.960If you've been following us, these are unfiltered, unedited, uh, you know, real conversations with people who are in the photo video industry.
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00:00:24.640And uh just like always, this season, we have Mario here helping us on the producer desk making this happens.
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00:00:25.679Hi guys, how are you?
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00:00:26.719Welcome back.
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00:00:30.239And uh our guest today is Lamar.
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00:00:36.399Yeah, an amazing photo video professional, and now a studio owner, I guess co-owner with Quintin.
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00:00:38.560Uh welcome.
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00:00:41.679Well, uh, tell people.
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00:00:42.719So, what do you do?
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00:00:47.679I guess uh tell us people about the studio, you and what what do you do, I guess?
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00:00:50.799Okay, um, so I know that's a broad question, right?
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00:00:52.640It is very broad.
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00:00:56.799So I guess um I'm a photographer, videographer.
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00:00:59.359I've been doing that for a while.
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00:01:03.280I guess I'll get more into the story because you you don't know much about my story.
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00:01:07.359So I started out as a musician at my church when I was 15 years old.
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00:01:11.280I've been playing the piano for when I was a little kid, right?
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00:01:17.280I've been going there since I was 15, I'm 39.
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00:01:18.560Wow, that's a long time.
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00:01:27.280And then as um, so we had some hurricanes came, the building we were in, bad flooding, we ended up moving to a hotel.
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00:01:29.680So then at that point, I started learning how to do sound.
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00:01:38.640Because we're breaking down every Sunday, is me, basically my friends, and the church kind of you know went a little bit down because you know, people don't like going to hotels.
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00:01:43.040And then we started building it up and getting more equipment and doing all that stuff.
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00:01:50.719Um well met my wife, she started coming to the church actually before that, and I actually brought her.
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00:02:01.200So did that, and then as we move into our next building, built that out, we had a young man helping out with video, and he's actually doing it professionally now too.
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00:02:12.000And I just grabbed a camera one day because he wasn't there because I was doing basically the audio, and it started taking pictures, and and I just really liked it and just kept going from there.
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00:02:17.680And we've been streaming at that church probably for 15 years.
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00:02:18.960That's a long time.
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00:02:23.599Started from not knowing what we're doing and just trying to get better and better and better.
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00:02:28.479That's awesome.
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00:02:32.800And that's a common, you know, again, thread with a lot of people, especially who do live streaming.
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00:02:44.400A lot of times they start a church or you know, any other place of faith that they go to, place of worship, uh, because it's common for those places who need these services to get to people, you know, that maybe can't come in or whatever.
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00:02:51.039And uh, and and it's such an incredible thing that you're learning this technical thing, a place that you're gonna go.
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00:03:03.599You know, uh, I mean, uh you're a volunteer at, and then even though you wouldn't think you could learn such high technical stuff at a volunteer position, people do after years and years of doing this, you know, uh you're basically an expert at it, right?
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00:03:11.360Yeah, I mean, I I from doing the sound, I started doing music, I was singing, I was making music, and then just switched.
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00:03:15.759I moved out of, I moved, came back, couldn't get back in music, just started doing video.
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00:03:22.800And you know, working with things that don't always work half the time teaches you a lot.
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00:03:23.520Exactly.
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00:03:24.960That's an important life lesson.
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00:03:27.120Yeah, how to fix things, how to fix things.
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00:03:28.400People are losing that skill.
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00:03:31.280I feel like it's very important to be able to be hands-on.
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00:03:38.560I find like again, I'm not that old, but I'm just saying people don't stop need to like the current culture is you know, if it breaks, you throw away.
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00:03:41.840Yeah, very few people are like, let me try and fix it first.
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00:03:42.560Yeah, yeah.
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00:03:43.280It's broke.
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00:03:45.840So what what can I what else can I do to it if it's broke?
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00:03:48.000We're gonna throw it away anyway, so I might as well take it.
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00:03:49.520I was always like that from a kid.
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00:03:52.479I took apart remote control cars when they broke.
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00:03:54.800I just I just love always taking things apart.
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00:03:56.879Most times probably didn't put it together, right?
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00:03:57.759That was me as a kid.
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00:04:02.319I'd pull it apart, you know, try to fix it, but usually have no idea how to put it back together.
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00:04:03.840And that's how you learn.
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00:04:06.800That's how you learn, and eventually you start being able to put stuff back together.
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00:04:08.240Exactly.
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00:04:09.360So that's awesome.
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00:04:19.199Uh, and then how did that lead to, I guess, today where you are, which is like I said, uh building studio, doing it professionally in your studio, photo and video and all that.
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00:04:23.279So doing the same thing week in and week out.
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00:04:27.680Um so my team is mostly young young kids, and I'm trying to teach them.
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00:04:30.399And you know, I've had kids go to college.
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00:04:34.000I've had um I have one, she just became a lawyer.
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00:04:38.000Um and she's married, and I have another one.
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00:04:42.000He's married with a kid, and he's doing videography professionally, traveling around the country.
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00:04:45.120I'm like, he hires me for jobs now, you know.
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00:04:52.800So it's it just got like I want to do this more, so I want to expand and do more things.
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00:05:00.959So you know, with uh with working with a church, you have a budget, and sometimes it's a very tight, strict budget, and there's certain things that you can't do.
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00:05:03.920Um, and I just want to be able to do more things.
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00:05:06.000And hey, I want to try something.
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00:05:09.279Okay, I have no restriction of what I can try in this area.
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00:05:16.480Just hey, if I got an extra couple hundred dollars, I want to buy this Ultimat, yeah, go ahead, buy it.
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00:05:18.000I can use it.
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00:05:18.639Exactly.
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00:05:24.399And that's this is great freedom though, to have uh being able to, like you said, just make things happen.
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00:05:30.000Yes, and expanding it out and trying to get more clients and you know, meet people.
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00:05:31.759This is always the fun thing.
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00:05:33.839That's one thing I like about photography.
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00:05:35.920Um, you get to meet a lot of people.
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00:05:50.560Yeah, um, I like doing the family photography as well because just interacting with people and you know, well, I'm also a teacher and phasing that out a little bit, but you know, being able to connect with the kids and you know, it's having fun.
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00:05:51.519That's all it was about.
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00:05:55.040Like when they come in and say, I don't know how to do this, I was like, Well, we're just gonna have some fun.
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00:05:55.920Yeah, that's it.
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00:05:56.800Exactly.
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00:05:58.240Make it easy for them, right?
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00:06:02.160Uh so when at what point did you meet Quentin?
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00:06:07.439I met Quentin at a at our church conference.
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00:06:17.040Um, a gentleman named Troy brought him in and met him one year, he came in, helped out, and then I guess just throughout the year met him again.
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00:06:37.920He came to the church a few more times to help us out with little one-off things, and then I don't know, we just started talking more and he was we were getting ready for the next conference, which was the one last year, and he was like, Well, I'm going to Africa for a few months, and and Troy, he does this professionally as well on the big stage.
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00:06:41.680And he's like, Well, we need you to learn how to do some use some of this equipment.
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00:06:47.040So I'm like, Well, at my school building, we have a whole side that we're not even using, bring it over there.
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00:06:47.439Yeah.
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00:06:50.319So we brought it over and we just started hooking up stuff and doing things.
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00:06:50.800They left.
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00:06:53.920I worked on it a little bit, and this is just how it came about.
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00:06:55.040And it was sitting empty.
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00:06:57.360We were like, we just start a studio here.
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00:07:01.519Yeah, that's such such a I mean, amazing thing if you think about it, right?
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00:07:08.800You had an empty side that you guys weren't using for the school, and obviously you're doing video production through the church.
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00:07:16.319Quentin's working, you know, with the ministry, and and then somehow you two connect, and it's like the perfect mixture of people.
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00:07:22.240You know, I I mean, I like I I think about like I don't too much believe in fate, but I'm like, that has to be fate, right?
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00:07:26.560Like uh, you guys were meant to be, and then obviously I love what you've done with it.
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00:07:45.439Uh, but you know, I it had to start with you two spark building the spark of let's do something here, you know, and and create something together where you know, not only is it it's a nice space, but more importantly, it's a business, it's a place where other people can come and create content, and you guys can create content for other people and stuff like that, you know, right?
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00:07:51.360Uh so uh whose idea was it to build this studio?
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00:07:52.879Was it you or Quentin?
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00:07:59.040It's funny, and and when you talk about faith, it's funny how um God puts people in your life because I've always had that.
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00:08:03.680I've for years I wanted to have a photography studio.
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00:08:14.480Now that's not the main thing that it is, but I was like, man, a place where during Christmas time I could bring people in because a lot of the studios closed that were doing photography for um families.
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00:08:14.720Yeah.
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00:08:16.000And I was like, I want to do that.
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00:08:30.319We had an extra space at the at our other building, and I would just do it there, but I was like setting this up and breaking it down every single time and taking a c taking my whole class apart and moving all the chairs around and moving my desk around and then have to put it all back together.
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00:08:31.920It's a lot of work.
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00:08:38.960Yeah, I spend 75% of the time just putting things together and taking it apart, not even shooting or editing.
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00:08:44.879So when it came when he came and just kind of he's like, Man, this would be cool as a studio.
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00:08:46.960I was like, I don't think so.
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00:08:52.480And so it's kind of like he just came in and just like kind of reaffirmed something I already wanted to do.
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00:09:10.639That makes sense because you know, you uh you look at that space, it's meant to be, because there's a narrow hallway on one side, big rooms on the other side, you know, kind of that's essentially a good layout for for a good small-size studio where corporate and commercial work can take place, which is kind of I think what you're leaning towards, right?
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00:09:14.480Photo shoots, video shoots, podcasts, things like that.
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00:09:26.960And uh yeah, normally, you know, the way the commercial buildings are designed, they may not work for it, but the way that's designed with a small front lobby, so you have more space, makeup room on the right, like it kind of seems like it was designed.
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00:09:34.159I I don't think it was, but it was designed for yeah, that it was designed probably as a classroom, but it kind of works as a studio very easily.
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00:09:38.639You guys didn't have to like you know, it'd be one thing if you had to do a full remodel.
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00:09:43.360Uh, all you had to really uh do is I'm saying you didn't have to change the layout, it basically worked.
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00:09:49.440You just had to paint, you know, obviously get the equipment in there or the setups in there, but you didn't have to like tear down walls or whatever.
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00:09:52.559Uh so that's really awesome.
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00:09:55.840Like I said, I'm so happy that you guys met or whatever.
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00:10:02.080And the way I was introduced to you through was Quentin, because I knew Quentin now for a few years, thanks to Alex.
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00:10:07.759Uh, actually, very long uh quite a few years I've known uh Quentin, at least I would say four or four years minimum.
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00:10:10.480So through Alex is how I met Quentin.
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00:10:23.200All right, and uh obviously uh I think it was his uh meetup where or even before the meetup, he was telling me about his his this you know studio idea or whatever, and then I think it was his meetup where where we met, right?
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00:10:24.960Yes, yeah, so that was incredible.
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00:10:30.399Yeah, so so it was Quentin who kind of met us meet, and then we had a chance to work together.
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00:10:35.200So I think we were doing the Kia Center shoot, and uh he was really pushing for you.
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00:10:41.919He's like, you gotta have Lamar there, and you know, Quentin is one of my guys, so it's like, you know, if you say it, Lamar's gonna be there.
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00:10:44.080Yeah, that's one that's one cool thing about Quentin.
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00:10:52.639He's been pushing me to get out there because I think one of the things that I just haven't had with working with churches, just that opportunity to get out past the church.
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00:10:58.720It's not saying I'm leaving the church behind, but just get out past the church and be able to kind of experience other things.
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00:10:59.120Yeah.
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00:11:07.919Um, because I've been put in a lot of different positions, and when I come in, you know, of course, in the church world where I've been working, I was always over it.
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00:11:08.720Right?
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00:11:15.120But I'm like, I it's good to come out and do things and just be able to learn and experience different things.
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00:11:23.039And the funny thing was after that shoot, um, I think about a month later, I got a job working um Thai Tribbit.
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00:11:25.039I don't know if you ever heard of him, he's a gospel artist.
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00:11:25.360Okay.
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00:11:31.600He called me to come shoot him at the same thing for family and faith.
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00:11:32.559I was like, oh, cool.
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00:11:33.120So I can't.
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00:11:35.600Now you know every all the alleyways and how to get in there.
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00:11:36.639I know how to get in there.
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00:11:38.799I would have yeah, I would have been lost if I didn't have that stadium.
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00:11:42.240That place is uh I mean, I guess it's all stadiums.
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00:11:44.639They they designed them, I guess, for you to get lost in there.
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00:11:46.000Uh, but that's really cool.
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00:11:46.799I really appreciate it.
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00:11:48.399Like I said, he introduced me to Andrew.
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00:11:49.759That's what it was, basically.
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00:11:53.039I was like, I want to bring Andrew, and I was like, Well, we'll bring him Lamar too.
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00:11:53.600How about that?
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00:11:58.480I told my clients, like, well, we need an extra person, we gotta fit them in.
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00:11:59.679You know, that's how it is.
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00:12:07.840Uh, and to be real, I I I trust Quentin's opinion because like I said, he introduced me to Andrew, and same thing, he knows him from C Fan, and like I said, Andrew is incredible too.
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00:12:09.759Andrew, yeah, he's talented.
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00:12:12.960Yeah, he's he's he's like I say, he likes me in the tech side.
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00:12:13.360I love that.
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00:12:17.440He's like so deep into every little equipment, how to put it together, how to be creative.
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00:12:18.720I mean, he's very creative too.
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00:12:20.159I'm saying so shooting goes.
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00:12:22.480Uh funny enough, I'm gonna have him a shoot tomorrow, so I'm excited.
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00:12:23.360Oh, yeah, that's it.
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00:12:27.440Yeah, so um anyway, so when he's at, I was like, okay, so you're coming.
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00:12:31.679And I told the client, I was like, well, we need extra people this year, it's gonna be more coverage, right?
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00:12:34.159Yeah, anyway, but no, no, I'm so glad you came, man.
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00:12:37.279It was such a good good time having you unset.
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00:12:40.559I think what not only did we have fun, I think we had a lot of fun that night.
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00:12:41.120We did.
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00:12:44.159Uh, even though the singer wasn't a good, I wish you were there last year.
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00:12:44.399Okay.
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00:12:48.320I mean, to be real, I mean, he's a good singer, but his music just isn't danceworthy.
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00:12:48.720Yes.
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00:12:51.919Last year, the singer they had, his music was very, you know, dance worthy.
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00:12:54.399So people were all on the court dancing and having fun.
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00:12:58.720But literally, the security had to be like, no, no, we can't have that many people on the court, right?
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00:13:00.480Because it's gonna I guess damage, whatever.
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00:13:02.000So, no, no, no, back up.
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00:13:09.600But I'm saying it it was uh it was a party, but versus this year I felt like less people want to dance and not because he wasn't singing good or whatever.
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00:13:13.759But that music wasn't dance, but either way, we still had a party, we had a lot of fun.
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00:13:16.639We were able to go up on the lounge and you know had a good meal.
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00:13:21.200Uh, your your member, Mario, what's your memory from that shoot?
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00:13:23.519From the Kia Center shoot?
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00:13:24.240Yeah.
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00:13:26.559No, I had a lot of fun.
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00:13:30.000We had like uh we could go anywhere.
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00:13:35.039Yeah, we had full access to full access in like in to the core even.
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00:13:36.879Yeah, so that that's great.
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00:13:44.159And then we also had like you were saying the like the VIP access to that like buffet.
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00:13:46.000Yeah, yeah, it was it was really cool shoot.
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00:13:48.240Yeah, how about how about the shoot part itself?
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00:13:50.799Did you enjoy actually what the content we were creating?
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00:13:52.320The whole India day thing.
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00:13:53.759Yeah, I know you guys are not Indian.
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00:13:55.919Yeah, I still like so I still like India.
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00:14:05.360I mean, to be honorary Indians because of you know, you know, our next door neighbor um by my parents' house is Indian, and he's um bought the house in 2003, they did.
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00:14:08.639Known him since then, seen his son grow up and everything.
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00:14:10.559And I just like other cultures.
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00:14:14.799I like experiencing that and hearing the music and it's it's fun.
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00:14:22.320I mean, to be honest, I I really love it because you know it's a partnership between the IECC and the uh the Orlando Magic.
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00:14:25.120Yes, it's technically just a regular NBA game.
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00:14:28.720They just uh celebrate, I guess, Indian culture on that day.
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00:14:35.440So the the what all the changes, the halftime show, the post-game show, all that is, you know, of somebody somebody Indian, right?
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00:14:44.320They probably usually for halftime have Indian kids who dance and stuff, and then post-game is some Indian singer, you know, celebrity singer or whatever who comes out and sings.
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00:14:50.879Yeah, I did want to say uh the funny story from that particular uh shoot when um I was upstairs looking for y'all.
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00:14:51.200Yeah.
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00:14:54.559Oh and then and then they were like, oh yeah, we need to get that.
00:14:54.559 -->
00:14:57.600Y'all were all sitting down, we came from outside, oh yeah, we need to get that.
00:14:57.600 -->
00:15:00.159I was like, all right, let me go right now.
00:15:00.159 -->
00:15:06.720I just go to the first elevator I see and said, Hey, I need to be on the floor right now.
00:15:06.720 -->
00:15:10.639They said, Okay, they pressed some buttons and they skipped every single floor.
00:15:10.639 -->
00:15:12.080They didn't know who I was.
00:15:12.080 -->
00:15:14.320I just some random guy just come up and say, I'm gonna go.
00:15:14.320 -->
00:15:17.600But still, they were like, I'll get you there.
00:15:17.600 -->
00:15:20.159Yeah, I got on the floor as soon as they finished.
00:15:20.399 -->
00:15:24.480And I was like, ah that's so good of you to use that power.
00:15:24.480 -->
00:15:27.759But no, to be honest, it's on on, I'll take a little bit of blame.
00:15:27.759 -->
00:15:32.320So what happened is, and you know, again, we do this every year, but you know, you it's it's a year later.
00:15:32.320 -->
00:15:34.000Yes, so what's you don't remember everything.
00:15:34.000 -->
00:15:40.399So basically, we did we captured the um the pro the pre-game show, essentially, is the the thing again.
00:15:40.399 -->
00:15:44.320There's too many things happening, but anyway, we you guys were still outside, right?
00:15:44.320 -->
00:15:46.399I think it was Mario, were you outside too, right?
00:15:46.399 -->
00:15:47.519It was the two of you, I believe.
00:15:47.519 -->
00:15:48.159Yes, yeah.
00:15:48.159 -->
00:15:53.440So the the other three, four of us, either way, however, many of us was there.
00:15:53.440 -->
00:15:56.240We had gone in uh to get the the pregame.
00:15:56.240 -->
00:15:58.879You guys were outside finishing on the outside thing.
00:15:58.879 -->
00:16:02.639So we got the pregame and we're like, awesome, let's go to the buffet.
00:16:02.639 -->
00:16:07.360You know, we remember so we're like, we're gonna go uh or I say buffet, it's I think in a lounge or whatever.
00:16:07.360 -->
00:16:11.840We're like, we're gonna go there and eat some nice food and have fun while we know now the game's gonna start.
00:16:11.840 -->
00:16:15.440Yeah, we completely forgot they gotta do the national anthem next.
00:16:15.440 -->
00:16:17.519And I'm like, how can I be so silly?
00:16:17.519 -->
00:16:22.399So you guys are now coming in to essentially just chill until you know halftime or whatever, yeah, right?
00:16:22.399 -->
00:16:24.159Looking for y'all, yeah, exactly.
00:16:24.159 -->
00:16:26.480And I'm like, uh national anthem started.
00:16:26.480 -->
00:16:28.320So I'm like, can anyone please get that?
00:16:28.320 -->
00:16:32.000Like, we are not gonna make it down, and that's when you were like, no, I I am on it.
00:16:32.000 -->
00:16:35.600But unfortunately, I mean, you did your best, yes, you weren't able to make it.
00:16:35.600 -->
00:16:41.600Luckily, we were able to go to IECC to go to Orlando Magic and get some footage of the national anthem.
00:16:41.600 -->
00:16:44.879Yes, it's just again, these type of oversights happen.
00:16:44.879 -->
00:16:46.399Again, I think I got overzealous.
00:16:46.399 -->
00:16:51.360I was just like, I should have, I could have waited five minutes, but again, it wasn't no harm done in the final edit.
00:16:51.360 -->
00:16:54.240Yeah, but I'm just saying it was kind of a funny situation that you're running.
00:16:55.120 -->
00:16:56.320They need to go now.
00:16:56.320 -->
00:17:03.679They got they got they literally like I felt like a superstar, yeah, because they literally just had me go straight down the elevator, skipped everything.
00:17:03.679 -->
00:17:10.880I get I don't even know if they rated on the head because the person at the next gate was like, Come on, yeah, and I just and I ran straight to the floor and got right there.
00:17:10.960 -->
00:17:14.240I just said, Hey, I'm at Yeah, and then that's that's so cool.
00:17:14.240 -->
00:17:17.920I I mean I had your normally I don't have access issues to this either.
00:17:17.920 -->
00:17:20.880I did for one segment, I don't know, whoever.
00:17:20.880 -->
00:17:25.599The guy wouldn't let me in on the court, and I'm like, dude, I'm supposed to be here, so I had to like go to someone else.
00:17:25.599 -->
00:17:27.359He was like, Yeah, yeah, they're supposed to be.
00:17:27.359 -->
00:17:29.440I was like, it clearly says C on it.
00:17:29.440 -->
00:17:32.000We can and we're not trying to do go during the game.
00:17:32.000 -->
00:17:39.359Obviously, I I'm not gonna be unreasonable there, but during the halftime, it's not even I don't I'm pretty sure it's not even televised.
00:17:39.359 -->
00:17:40.799That's no, I don't think so.
00:17:40.799 -->
00:17:45.839Yeah, so that's just for the people there, and that's why we're allowed to be in court and get whatever angles we need.
00:17:45.839 -->
00:17:49.440But yeah, I had some some guy on one of the corners was like, No, you can't be on there.
00:17:49.440 -->
00:17:51.119I'm like, Yes, I can be.
00:17:51.119 -->
00:17:52.640That's exactly why they hired me.
00:17:52.640 -->
00:17:55.680Like, if you don't capture this, then I why am I here anyway?
00:17:55.839 -->
00:17:56.240Exactly.
00:17:56.400 -->
00:18:04.880No, but that but that's why I like that gig, because it's like we have certain things we need to capture, but usually in the middle, we have a lot of freedom.
00:18:04.880 -->
00:18:15.039I mean, there's some segments where they're behind the scenes or whatever, we gotta capture some sound bites, but a lot of it is we can also get to experience and chill and just enjoy while we capture it.
00:18:15.039 -->
00:18:18.240It's it's not the most financial thing, obviously, it's a partnership.
00:18:18.240 -->
00:18:24.960Yes, uh, but the advantage uh for me is hey, my name's there, you know, on one of the boards, I guess.
00:18:24.960 -->
00:18:35.119Yeah, uh, and then the other thing being is that I get to um have that access and just have that fun because it's not like um you know long-term thing, it's just a one-day uh I don't know.
00:18:35.119 -->
00:18:35.839What do you what do you think?
00:18:36.000 -->
00:18:36.480Did you have fun?
00:18:36.480 -->
00:18:41.599Yeah, yeah, I had fun, and I think it's good to be able to bring in people that you don't know because you didn't really know me.
00:18:41.599 -->
00:18:44.960So it's like, hey, let me bring a look, bring in this guy that he said is good.
00:18:44.960 -->
00:18:46.000All right, bring me up.
00:18:46.160 -->
00:18:50.079I mean, to be real, I knew you at that time I hadn't met you at the Yeah, you met me, but you didn't really know.
00:18:50.079 -->
00:18:51.599Yeah, I never had a chance to get it.
00:18:51.599 -->
00:18:52.880Some random guy, you know.
00:18:52.880 -->
00:18:53.920Exactly.
00:18:53.920 -->
00:18:56.160Uh, but no, I'm so glad I brought you, dude.
00:18:56.160 -->
00:18:56.720We had so much fun.
00:18:56.720 -->
00:19:02.000And uh it was so fun actually working with you and getting to know you.
00:19:02.000 -->
00:19:04.319And I was like, this is awesome, we should do this more often.
00:19:04.319 -->
00:19:07.279And uh uh, because like I said, the footage you got was great.
00:19:07.279 -->
00:19:12.559We had fun, like I said, and you use your power correctly to get down because you did need to go down there.
00:19:12.559 -->
00:19:18.559I mean, it's not your fault, because like I said, by the time we realize they're already singing, it's not like it takes them forever to the national anthem.
00:19:18.559 -->
00:19:19.440It does not, yeah.
00:19:19.440 -->
00:19:22.640So it's not like the longest time to uh to get there.
00:19:22.640 -->
00:19:26.480And uh Kia Center is a maze, essentially.
00:19:26.640 -->
00:19:31.440Um I don't even I really don't even know how I ended up I ended up right by the right elevator.
00:19:32.000 -->
00:19:33.599I think I think our issue is the past.
00:19:33.599 -->
00:19:35.519So normal people, I think they control you.
00:19:35.519 -->
00:19:39.599Like if you go to an elevator, they'll tell you like you can only get off on this floor or whatever.
00:19:39.599 -->
00:19:43.200But when you have that core tight access, they essentially just let you go wherever.
00:19:43.200 -->
00:19:43.440Yeah.
00:19:43.440 -->
00:19:44.720So I think you can end up.
00:19:45.359 -->
00:19:50.240Yeah, so the next time I went, um, I got a chance to walk around some more because it was only me.
00:19:50.240 -->
00:19:51.200I didn't have anybody else.
00:19:51.200 -->
00:19:53.920I was trying to bring Quentin on that job, didn't quite work out.
00:19:53.920 -->
00:19:55.680So I'm just walking around the place.
00:19:55.680 -->
00:19:57.200Actually, no, I had him bring in my wife.
00:19:57.200 -->
00:19:57.440Okay.
00:19:57.440 -->
00:20:01.359I said, Well, your budget's not there at this particular time for this thing.
00:20:01.359 -->
00:20:03.440I said, I bring my wife and have her just hang out.
00:20:03.759 -->
00:20:04.559They're like, All right.
00:20:04.640 -->
00:20:05.759They gave her a ticket and everything.
00:20:05.759 -->
00:20:06.240It was funny.
00:20:06.319 -->
00:20:06.880Well, that's pretty good.
00:20:06.880 -->
00:20:07.119Yeah.
00:20:07.359 -->
00:20:09.680So, but we were walking around.
00:20:09.680 -->
00:20:14.480I was walking around and let her get in the seat, just trying to figure it out, and I got lost like two, three times.
00:20:14.480 -->
00:20:15.039Yeah.
00:20:15.039 -->
00:20:21.599So I don't even know how I ended up getting on the floor that day, but that day, that time, it was just perfect.
00:20:21.599 -->
00:20:22.880Exactly where I was.
00:20:23.759 -->
00:20:24.160Yeah.
00:20:24.160 -->
00:20:25.279That's awesome though.
00:20:25.279 -->
00:20:29.200Yeah, uh that, you know, and I can say it'll help maybe next time if you remember a little bit.
00:20:29.200 -->
00:20:29.519Yeah.
00:20:29.519 -->
00:20:31.680Uh, but that you got together twice and that helped.
00:20:31.680 -->
00:20:34.079But also, you're uh are you not talking about tickets?
00:20:34.079 -->
00:20:35.839I remember, yeah, they gave me four tickets too.
00:20:35.839 -->
00:20:39.680I got to have my kids that day, and then we also invited Natalia and Julie.
00:20:39.680 -->
00:20:41.039Like they were all there basically.
00:20:41.039 -->
00:20:44.480I mean, I'm saying it was fun to just have everyone there and just have fun.
00:20:44.480 -->
00:20:47.759Yeah, um, like I said, it's one of those fun gigs that I get to do.
00:20:47.759 -->
00:20:54.000It's not a lot, you know, uh, but it's it's it's a good gig, and I'm so glad you you could be part of it.
00:20:54.000 -->
00:21:08.079And like I said, the main thing I liked was we had a good time, we had fun, we captured good footage, the video came out great, the client's happy, we're happy, and then and like I said, we got to enjoy an NBA game with full side access.
00:21:08.079 -->
00:21:09.839Yeah, we could essentially be wherever.
00:21:09.839 -->
00:21:15.839Yeah, I still remember last year, like I was standing somewhere, you know, waiting for the players to exit for halftime.
00:21:15.839 -->
00:21:21.279But like, I'm just making some social media real or whatever, but people are just going crazy just for a handshake.
00:21:21.279 -->
00:21:24.559And you know, I'm right next to a player, I could have said hi or whatever.
00:21:24.559 -->
00:21:29.759I didn't, I'm not a basketball person, but I'm just like, cool, this is just good to be here, you know.
00:21:29.759 -->
00:21:37.119Like, sure, I'm not like fans of any of these players or whatever, but I mean, I'll play some 2K, but I don't know each player individually, you know what I mean?
00:21:37.119 -->
00:21:40.880Like, yeah, so I was like, oh, this is pretty cool to be here and have this type of access.
00:21:40.880 -->
00:21:44.960And I think that's a lot of jobs that make me feel like that, where I'm like, how did I end up here?
00:21:44.960 -->
00:21:45.759Exactly.
00:21:45.759 -->
00:21:46.559He's like, how?
00:21:47.039 -->
00:21:51.839I mean, I um I did one job, it was just off the cuff.
00:21:51.839 -->
00:21:55.200It was somebody called me and said, Hey, I need you to do a job now.
00:21:55.200 -->
00:21:58.240This this guy's name is Donnie McClerkin, right?
00:21:58.240 -->
00:22:02.160So he's a Legend when it comes to gospel music.
00:22:02.160 -->
00:22:02.880Like legend.
00:22:02.880 -->
00:22:08.960So I was just called got called up by a friend and said, Hey, I need you to do this job.
00:22:08.960 -->
00:22:09.759I can't make it.
00:22:09.759 -->
00:22:13.839I said, Okay, I hooked up with a guy, and he's like, Alright, you're gonna meet with Donnie McClerk.
00:22:13.839 -->
00:22:17.119And I'm saying, Alright, cool, I'll go to the place and you know, do all the stuff.
00:22:17.119 -->
00:22:19.920I ended up in his hotel room recording him.
00:22:19.920 -->
00:22:22.400Just me and him, nobody else.
00:22:22.640 -->
00:22:24.400Wow, I'm like just for you.
00:22:24.880 -->
00:22:26.160So I'm like, what is going on?
00:22:26.160 -->
00:22:28.160Now, you know, of course, you have to act like you've been there before.
00:22:28.160 -->
00:22:29.920And he knows my pastor and everything.
00:22:29.920 -->
00:22:32.000So I kind of sparked up that conversation.
00:22:32.000 -->
00:22:33.920So he knows, hey, okay, cool.
00:22:33.920 -->
00:22:37.440And we talked about um his church, my church, and there's different things.
00:22:37.440 -->
00:22:38.640He's from New York.
00:22:38.640 -->
00:22:40.160And it was just cool.
00:22:40.160 -->
00:22:47.680Like, I can't believe I'm just in the room sitting here with somebody that used to play his music, singing songs when I was like a teenager.
00:22:47.680 -->
00:22:49.039It's crazy.
00:22:49.039 -->
00:22:53.279So, you know, you get in those places and you're just like, Man, like, how did I get here?
00:22:53.279 -->
00:22:54.160Yeah, how did I get it?
00:22:54.400 -->
00:22:56.319I mean, that's really awesome that you were able to do that.
00:22:56.319 -->
00:22:58.319Even the Kia Center one, did you have full access?
00:22:58.319 -->
00:23:00.559Were you able to go around the thing, right?
00:23:00.559 -->
00:23:01.680Then do whatever some shit.
00:23:01.920 -->
00:23:05.440I actually stood on the press box with the other um camera people.
00:23:05.440 -->
00:23:14.880You know, of course, we can't tape it, yeah, but just sat there and just you know, watched the game from where they are they're recording and doing getting different clips for their um podcasts and stuff.
00:23:14.880 -->
00:23:17.200And I'm just able to sit there with them.
00:23:17.200 -->
00:23:19.680I had a few conversations with them, they're nice guys.
00:23:19.680 -->
00:23:25.440And I mean, literally, if I wanted to, I could have just stayed there the whole time and watched the whole game literally from the floor.
00:23:25.680 -->
00:23:27.200Wow, that's incredible.
00:23:27.200 -->
00:23:30.000Yeah, that's I think one of the best things about it.
00:23:30.000 -->
00:23:32.480Obviously, I love because I want to make videos and stuff.
00:23:32.480 -->
00:23:34.880Yes, I guess it's a secondary benefit, right?
00:23:34.880 -->
00:23:41.200Of us doing photo and video, and then next thing you know, you get access to famous singers, famous celebrities.
00:23:41.200 -->
00:23:44.559Like when I had Fernando, we were talking about um what's his name?
00:23:44.559 -->
00:23:46.960Oh my goodness, I keep forgetting this guy's name.
00:23:46.960 -->
00:23:51.680The commercial Miami that we talked with Fernando, what's the singer's name?
00:23:51.680 -->
00:23:52.799Mark Anthony.
00:23:52.799 -->
00:23:55.359Oh, yeah, I should just remember that name.
00:23:55.359 -->
00:24:01.359So we just had this car, same thing, like how we did the commercial, and we had access to this celebrity right next to us.
00:24:01.359 -->
00:24:03.599And you know, it's just one of those bonus something.
00:24:03.599 -->
00:24:11.599Not that it affects what we do, we we still do the best to do, but it's nice to have access like that, where you know, you know, it's just nice.
00:24:11.599 -->
00:24:23.359You know, it is to be able to go to Kia Center, to be able to, you know, uh have full access to whatever the the luxury uh what do you call it, lounges or whatever, uh be able to record content, have courtside access, you know.
00:24:23.359 -->
00:24:27.519Uh essentially be wherever we also got to go to the press room, I believe, for a little bit, right?
00:24:27.519 -->
00:24:28.079Yeah, yeah.
00:24:28.319 -->
00:24:37.440And um, I actually have a um Troy, my other friend, he was like, Man, if you would have told me you were there, I could have talked to my people and got you in the um where they do all the shooting at.
00:24:37.440 -->
00:24:37.759Yeah.
00:24:37.759 -->
00:24:41.119Where they actually have the whole big board where they do all the multicam shoots.
00:24:41.119 -->
00:24:42.960He's like, I could have told you how to get there.
00:24:42.960 -->
00:24:44.960I'm like, I should have just called you.
00:24:45.359 -->
00:24:45.839And guess what?
00:24:45.839 -->
00:24:49.519You shouldn't know the year before Quentin just made it there.
00:24:49.519 -->
00:24:52.720So we were at Quentin, he said, Yeah, I've been here or whatever, or something like that.
00:24:52.720 -->
00:24:53.920So I was like, I'll take you.
00:24:53.920 -->
00:24:56.079And then next thing we know, you know, we're going in the elevator.
00:24:56.079 -->
00:24:58.240I'm pretty sure we ended up it looked like the control room.
00:24:58.240 -->
00:25:02.480I'm like, there's no way we're we're supposed to be here, but we were just there.
00:25:02.480 -->
00:25:04.079So again, nobody stopped.
00:25:04.079 -->
00:25:07.839The the advantage of at least the past that we have is like nobody stopped us.
00:25:07.839 -->
00:25:12.960So it's like, oh, where obviously you have to know how to get there because I have no idea how we went, where we went.
00:25:12.960 -->
00:25:14.000It was pretty high up.
00:25:14.000 -->
00:25:20.960Uh, but that's pretty cool again, like you said, it's it's just not the most important thing, but it's it's cool to have that access, it's cool to be able to.
00:25:20.960 -->
00:25:23.680What's I like about that gig is the freedom that I have.
00:25:23.680 -->
00:25:28.400So I wouldn't normally do if it was just like actually just go, go, go type of gang.
00:25:28.400 -->
00:25:31.839You know, like I said, I it's a sponsorship, partnership type of thing.
00:25:31.839 -->
00:25:33.759But I really do really like that.
00:25:33.759 -->
00:25:35.039They do give me freedom.
00:25:35.039 -->
00:25:40.240They're like, hey, this is the obviously the requirements, we gotta capture the Indias Day stuff happening there.
00:25:40.240 -->
00:25:46.960But outside of that, I like I get full freedom, like what coverage I want, where we want to be, what do we want to do, we want to interview.
00:25:46.960 -->
00:25:49.200It's not like anyone's pressuring me to do anything.
00:25:49.200 -->
00:25:52.000So it makes the uh the day go by really fast, right?
00:25:52.000 -->
00:25:52.240Yeah.
00:25:52.240 -->
00:25:54.880Um, anyway, let's switch to to you.
00:25:54.880 -->
00:25:56.559I know you also do photography.
00:25:56.559 -->
00:25:58.559You say you love doing family photography.
00:25:58.559 -->
00:26:01.759Is there any particular uh uh is that your like your favorite thing to do?
00:26:02.400 -->
00:26:09.039Um that it's it's fun to do that because I get a chance to like you know talk to families and meet people.
00:26:09.039 -->
00:26:11.759I mean, I did a I did a family reunion once.
00:26:11.759 -->
00:26:15.359It was like 50 something, 60 people.
00:26:15.359 -->
00:26:18.000Yeah, it was it was it was a lot.
00:26:18.000 -->
00:26:19.440That was pretty fun.
00:26:19.440 -->
00:26:23.440Um, you have to know how to be assertive and nice at the same time.
00:26:23.440 -->
00:26:24.720Yeah, because nobody's listening to you.
00:26:24.960 -->
00:26:26.640Yeah, because that's a lot, that's a big family.
00:26:27.200 -->
00:26:28.240It's a big family.
00:26:28.240 -->
00:26:34.559Um, but I want to get more to small businesses, being able to help people out and you know, grow their business and grow with them.
00:26:35.200 -->
00:26:35.519Exactly.
00:26:35.519 -->
00:26:43.119And that's a good uh partnership to have with Quintin because you know his primary thing is trying to go to businesses and things like that.
00:26:43.119 -->
00:26:45.119So I think you guys can that's what I'm saying.
00:26:45.119 -->
00:26:49.279It's a good good person to have a studio partnership with.
00:26:49.279 -->
00:26:54.400Um now, uh, have you decided like uh how you're gonna promote the studio and thing?
00:26:54.400 -->
00:27:00.319I know last time I checked, he was still trying to get things kind of going, you know, getting finalized or whatever.
00:27:00.640 -->
00:27:01.519Quinn, this is for you.
00:27:01.519 -->
00:27:06.640So, you know, my life my life is um busy, especially towards the end of the school year.
00:27:06.640 -->
00:27:32.160So I was really, really hands-on in the beginning, January, February, and then you know, end of school year, you know, when you own a business, there's all kinds of stuff you have to fill out because I was I'm running the school, I'm principal, I'm doing the grades, I'm teaching gymnastics season because my son's in gymnastics is that same around that same time um he and he went to um nationals this year, so like every other weekend.
00:27:32.160 -->
00:27:33.039Thank you.
00:27:33.039 -->
00:27:42.559So every other weekend I'm out of town, or I'm doing this, I'm doing that, and I I I I wasn't going ghost from the business, it was just I had no time.
00:27:42.720 -->
00:27:43.039Yeah.
00:27:43.279 -->
00:27:54.240And this is the time, you know, this was a very pivotal moment in his in his gymnastics career, getting up to the next level with um, it's called optionals, where they get to do some of the fancier things.
00:27:54.240 -->
00:28:00.880So it's like this was the last year of him doing where he had to do certain routines, and it was a hard, hard routines, too.
00:28:00.880 -->
00:28:05.839So I'm I'm back more more or less full force trying to go at it.
00:28:05.839 -->
00:28:16.400So we've been trying to make content, um, get people in the studio to film content, and um I'm trying to convince Quentin to do his uh his podcast and everything.
00:28:16.400 -->
00:28:17.359I need to do it.
00:28:17.359 -->
00:28:18.640I mean, you guys have a space now, right?
00:28:18.640 -->
00:28:19.839Yeah, we have to space ready to go.
00:28:19.839 -->
00:28:26.640So it's it's just getting him to do it, getting me to do it, you know, and we're used to being behind the camera and in front of the camera.
00:28:26.640 -->
00:28:28.640Like, you know, yeah, this is tough.
00:28:28.720 -->
00:28:29.039I get it.
00:28:29.279 -->
00:28:34.640It's it's tough, you know, and sometimes you have to put yourself out there in order to get your business out.
00:28:34.640 -->
00:28:37.039So now it's time to get us out there.
00:28:37.039 -->
00:28:37.599Yeah.
00:28:37.839 -->
00:28:43.599Yeah, because uh initially, like I said, like you said, these months have been mostly getting the space ready, right?
00:28:43.599 -->
00:29:02.559Because not only, as far as I know, Quinton was uh like and you you like you say you've been running the school, doing your photography, he's also running, you know, his jobs, and then at the same time, anytime you find time, like he was telling me he was there late nights, you know, trying to paint, get the the seamless up or whatever, you know, getting the control room ready.
00:29:02.559 -->
00:29:03.839And it's come a long way.
00:29:03.839 -->
00:29:08.480I remember being there initially, and I was like, wow, this looks like a lot of work.
00:29:08.480 -->
00:29:17.279And then I was there recently when I rented the his FX6, and I was like, wow, this come like this looks like the podcast rooms, like an actual podcast room.
00:29:17.279 -->
00:29:18.640There's actually cameras.
00:29:18.640 -->
00:29:22.640I have no idea where you're acquiring so much money because there's so much gear here.
00:29:22.640 -->
00:29:26.079Because you know, there was like so many, I know, and his obsession black magic.
00:29:26.079 -->
00:29:30.640The amount of black magic cameras that you guys uh have now in that studio is crazy.
00:29:31.039 -->
00:29:34.640Yes, so one cool thing about black magic cameras to get on gear a little bit.
00:29:34.640 -->
00:29:38.319Oh, he's got to you too, okay, is well when you're okay.
00:29:38.319 -->
00:29:42.720So right now, you know, you're using the using um zona cameras, right?
00:29:42.720 -->
00:29:43.200Uh-huh.
00:29:43.200 -->
00:29:48.319So with using black magic cameras through the ATEM, you can camera control a lot of things.
00:29:48.319 -->
00:29:53.359So it makes it so now, hey, instead of walking to the camera, you can just do it from there.
00:29:53.359 -->
00:29:55.279Just get a log on your computer and do all the stuff.
00:29:55.279 -->
00:29:57.119So and it puts out a great image.
00:29:57.119 -->
00:30:05.279Now, I did my first shoot using the 6Ks, um, and oh my goodness, the footage is massive.
00:30:05.279 -->
00:30:06.000Yes.
00:30:06.000 -->
00:30:07.920Well, actually, it's my second one.
00:30:07.920 -->
00:30:11.759One of them I did, it was almost a terabyte of data.
00:30:12.079 -->
00:30:13.039What were you recording in?
00:30:13.039 -->
00:30:14.880Were you recording B-Raw or something different?
00:30:15.119 -->
00:30:16.400B-Raw, the first one.
00:30:16.400 -->
00:30:21.519I it wasn't my camera, it was another person's camera, and we were shooting a like a gospel concert.
00:30:21.519 -->
00:30:23.519And that was the catch-all camera.
00:30:23.519 -->
00:30:26.880He didn't fully set it up right now that I know a little bit more about it.
00:30:26.880 -->
00:30:30.720Wait, B-Raw, I don't know what codec he used.
00:30:30.720 -->
00:30:32.960And I said, okay, give me the footage.
00:30:32.960 -->
00:30:33.759I'm gonna take it back.
00:30:33.759 -->
00:30:36.400I was editing it, and I dumped that footage.
00:30:36.400 -->
00:30:41.119I was like, oh man, I need another hard drive just to keep this footage.
00:30:41.119 -->
00:30:42.960It was 900 and something gigs.
00:30:43.119 -->
00:30:45.599Wow, that's a lot of yeah, and 800 and something gigs.
00:30:45.599 -->
00:30:48.000Yeah, and it depends on the con uh the compression.
00:30:48.000 -->
00:30:53.200So I think you can select obviously different compressions for 12 to 1 is probably the best one.
00:30:53.200 -->
00:30:54.559Probably uh the the most one.
00:30:54.559 -->
00:30:59.440And obviously, the more compressed it is, I'm sure it's harder on the computer or whatever to edit.
00:30:59.440 -->
00:31:02.400But then it gives you more, you know, reasonable file sizes.
00:31:02.400 -->
00:31:03.839And that's my entire thing.
00:31:03.839 -->
00:31:08.480You know, raw is amazing, but it does take a lot of data, yeah.
00:31:08.480 -->
00:31:08.799Exactly.
00:31:08.799 -->
00:31:09.680It has its place.
00:31:09.680 -->
00:31:16.000Yeah, if you need it, then absolutely, but then you are gonna deal with the data, the extra workflow and stuff like that.
00:31:16.000 -->
00:31:18.000Do you do you do resolve for editing?
00:31:18.000 -->
00:31:18.319No.
00:31:18.799 -->
00:31:32.240No, so you gotta even have Yeah, so that first shoot, and it was around Thanksgiving, so we went to um we went to my brother-in-law and sister-in-law's house in New Jersey, yes.
00:31:32.240 -->
00:31:35.519So I'm sitting at the table while they're, you know, like sleep.
00:31:35.519 -->
00:31:41.519My brother's he's in his doctoral to pro program, and he's studying, and I'm over there editing footage.
00:31:42.799 -->
00:31:43.680Why were you using Premier?
00:31:43.920 -->
00:31:49.599I was using Premiere at the kitchen table, and he's in the room doing his homework because that's crazy.
00:31:49.839 -->
00:31:52.960Were you at least using uh M1 style computers so it was faster?
00:31:53.440 -->
00:31:56.960Also, I have an M1, but um it actually doesn't edit too bad.
00:31:56.960 -->
00:32:04.960It's just getting over the fact of learning how to take that footage and put it in there and you know using LUTs and all that, getting it transferred over.
00:32:05.200 -->
00:32:08.079Yeah, and actually being able to take advantage of Raw.
00:32:08.079 -->
00:32:10.400I've heard again, I'm not an expert on it.
00:32:10.559 -->
00:32:12.000They had just created a plug-in for it.
00:32:12.240 -->
00:32:20.319Yeah, because you want to make sure that's actually changing RAW, not just manipulating whatever you have in there because then you lose the purpose of RAW, right?
00:32:20.400 -->
00:32:25.519Yeah, so but um yeah, I was like, okay, I need to learn this a little bit more.
00:32:25.519 -->
00:32:34.880Then I started that after that, then I got hooked up more with Quentin and I did a shoot with somebody and it was a couple minutes and it was like 200 gigs.
00:32:35.519 -->
00:32:39.119Yeah, I mean, hey, there's nothing wrong with black magic cameras, they're amazing.
00:32:39.119 -->
00:32:41.519Yes, but yeah, he's uh some extra obsessed.
00:32:41.519 -->
00:32:45.759Like every time I go there, I'm like, there's more cameras, and they're all black magic cameras cameras, right?
00:32:45.759 -->
00:32:46.400Yeah, exactly.
00:32:46.400 -->
00:32:49.440That's uh and I'm pretty sure you go another month, it'll be 10.
00:32:49.440 -->
00:32:52.799I've at least that's what it feels like to me.
00:32:52.799 -->
00:32:55.440Uh but again, that that works for him, you know.
00:32:55.440 -->
00:32:56.319That's his workflow.
00:32:56.319 -->
00:32:59.279I mean, I know he finally added a Sony camera because he's an FX6.
00:32:59.759 -->
00:33:01.039Yes, he added that last year.
00:33:01.039 -->
00:33:03.599Now I use Sony, I've been using Sony for a while.
00:33:03.599 -->
00:33:06.880I bought an uh A7 III, that was my first camera.
00:33:06.880 -->
00:33:07.920Well, second camera.
00:33:07.920 -->
00:33:09.039I was Nikon before.
00:33:09.039 -->
00:33:09.359Okay.
00:33:09.359 -->
00:33:12.160Um, so I got an A73 and an A74.
00:33:12.160 -->
00:33:13.279I like them.
00:33:13.279 -->
00:33:18.480And now it's just then we got a deal on the um Black Magic 6K pros for the studio.
00:33:18.480 -->
00:33:22.400Now I'm like, okay, what do I want to go to next for my kit?
00:33:22.400 -->
00:33:22.799Yeah.
00:33:22.799 -->
00:33:23.599So I don't know.
00:33:23.680 -->
00:33:26.319I'm looking at the A74s is a pretty good camera.
00:33:26.319 -->
00:33:29.759Yeah, FXC could be a good add-on to it too for video, you know.
00:33:29.759 -->
00:33:30.160Yes.
00:33:30.160 -->
00:33:33.759Yeah, because you you uh I don't know if FXC would be good for just photos.
00:33:33.759 -->
00:33:35.920I'd be like, No, no, I wouldn't use it for photos at all.
00:33:35.920 -->
00:33:41.039So I'm like, so it may be good to uh add an FX3 or FX30 to it or something like that.
00:33:41.039 -->
00:33:47.759Yeah, so which as we were looking, Sony has increased prices on camera, so yeah, bad time to be thinking about buying cameras.
00:33:47.759 -->
00:33:55.200Yeah, but you know, as you uh you would think used market wouldn't affect from that, but yes, you know, people are gonna jack up their sale prices.
00:33:55.519 -->
00:34:05.119Yeah, it's it is what it is, but um I'm I'm not in the market yet for it, but I know most likely an FX3 or FX6 is probably my next go.
00:34:05.119 -->
00:34:15.199But hearing um in the group chat that we have with the other filmmakers, and I think the FX3 might be the first place for me to go because then my A7 IV is the sec is the B Cam.
00:34:15.199 -->
00:34:22.239And then when I shoot photography, A74 transfers over to my A CAM, and then my you know, so exactly.
00:34:22.320 -->
00:34:26.159Plus, the other thing, the advantage you would have is uh Quentin has an FX6.
00:34:26.159 -->
00:34:26.400Yeah.
00:34:26.400 -->
00:34:29.280So if you needed it, you don't have to go far to grab an FX6.
00:34:29.280 -->
00:34:29.679Exactly.
00:34:29.679 -->
00:34:35.599And it has its uses, like I said, we use it, we create great created great images from his FX6.
00:34:35.599 -->
00:34:37.760We had two of mine and one of his there.
00:34:37.760 -->
00:34:42.960And uh I really like FX6, like I said, it creates a really nice uh like I said, footage.
00:34:42.960 -->
00:34:53.360The roll-off is nice, uh the photo, uh the uh the video's detailed, the load it is nice, but again, if you're doing corporate stuff, then FX3 can work too.
00:34:53.360 -->
00:34:55.039It's not like that important too.
00:34:55.440 -->
00:34:57.519Build it up a little bit just to make it look beefy.
00:34:57.840 -->
00:35:00.320Yeah, you add an indie filter, you know, functionality.
00:35:00.320 -->
00:35:04.159It's not 100% the same, but most corporate people wouldn't notice.
00:35:04.159 -->
00:35:07.119Now, if you're trying to fit in other people's workflow, that can be nice.
00:35:07.119 -->
00:35:12.559For example, like right here, I had two FX6s, so it made more sense to have an FX3 to match.
00:35:12.559 -->
00:35:13.199Exactly.
00:35:13.199 -->
00:35:18.079Uh, but so I guess there's users for both, and again, if you have access to both, that'd be the key.
00:35:18.079 -->
00:35:18.320Yes.
00:35:18.320 -->
00:35:22.800And I know he doesn't have an FX3, so that may make more sense for you to have an FX6.
00:35:22.960 -->
00:35:25.599And that's why that's one of the reasons why I was thinking about it as well.
00:35:25.599 -->
00:35:28.159It's like you have FX6, I have FX3.
00:35:28.159 -->
00:35:30.559When you take both of them out, boom, we have both.
00:35:30.559 -->
00:35:34.239Instead of you having to buy everything, because you know he has 50 million cameras.
00:35:34.480 -->
00:35:42.800Yeah, I talk about just cameras, racks and racks and so you know, not that many people can what do you call give me a run?
00:35:42.800 -->
00:35:46.000Because I feel like I have most more than anyone in Florida.
00:35:46.000 -->
00:35:48.320But Quentin comes close, is what I'm saying.
00:35:48.320 -->
00:35:50.159Yeah, yeah, he yep.
00:35:50.159 -->
00:35:51.199Um, yep.
00:35:51.199 -->
00:35:55.760It's a lot of cut man, and stuff that's kind of specialty live stream.
00:35:55.760 -->
00:36:01.519So, you know, I do like a lot of live streaming too, this decent chunk of money for us, but I do more corporate stuff.
00:36:01.519 -->
00:36:04.400I think he's uh but he's a go-to guy for me.
00:36:04.400 -->
00:36:09.519Anytime I'm thinking of coding for a project for a bigger stream than what I would normally handle.
00:36:09.519 -->
00:36:10.800Uh, he's a good partner.
00:36:10.800 -->
00:36:15.119I always think of him like, oh, if I need racks and racks of equipment, who am I gonna call?
00:36:15.119 -->
00:36:15.920Oh, Quentin.
00:36:16.079 -->
00:36:18.320Yeah, I mean the stuff adds up really quick.
00:36:18.320 -->
00:36:22.480Um at my church, we have an A10 mini um extreme.
00:36:22.480 -->
00:36:22.719Yeah.
00:36:22.719 -->
00:36:26.000ISO, so that's eight cameras, and you know, eight inputs.
00:36:26.159 -->
00:36:30.880You think that's a lot, it is nothing, as soon as you outputs, because it only gives you two outputs.
00:36:30.880 -->
00:36:32.000It only gives you two outputs.
00:36:32.159 -->
00:36:44.239But even besides that, once you add in uh a presenter rig, a pro presenter rig, and if you really want to do it the right way with lower thirds coming out of it and everything, that's that could be four outputs right there.
00:36:44.239 -->
00:36:45.679So, like that's half of it.
00:36:45.840 -->
00:36:46.400Yeah, exactly.
00:36:46.400 -->
00:36:50.159And those are HDMIs if you want STI, but that doesn't work.
00:36:50.159 -->
00:36:52.639So now you're adding a constellation to your kit.
00:36:52.639 -->
00:36:54.400Yeah, anyway, yeah.
00:36:54.400 -->
00:36:56.880Then you need a video hub, then you're adding that.
00:36:56.880 -->
00:36:59.599Yeah, you need to do green screen, you're adding an ultimat.
00:36:59.599 -->
00:37:04.239Hey, I mean, people listening to this, if you have no idea what we're talking about, please do not research.
00:37:04.239 -->
00:37:06.320You will you will be broke very fast.
00:37:06.320 -->
00:37:08.960So we just got an Ultimat, too, because we went to Infocom.
00:37:09.119 -->
00:37:13.920We've been thinking about doing more green screen work, and of course, the ATMs can do green screen work, yeah.
00:37:14.159 -->
00:37:16.320Very limited, but yeah, it's not at that high quality.
00:37:16.320 -->
00:37:19.039Ultimat, it's a different level of green screen work, yeah.
00:37:19.360 -->
00:37:24.000Right before we came here, we were working on it, and it's just it's it's it's amazing.
00:37:24.239 -->
00:37:24.559Yeah.
00:37:24.559 -->
00:37:30.719See, uh again, if you're doing basic news style stuff, low-end green screen, then 80 is fine.
00:37:30.719 -->
00:37:33.599I like the built-in, you know, chroma key stuff that it has.
00:37:33.599 -->
00:37:39.599But Ultimat is like actually usable stuff or like higher end stuff.
00:37:39.599 -->
00:37:44.800Like, I wouldn't mind it keying live for I mean, I uh a decent size video is what I'm saying.
00:37:44.800 -->
00:37:51.679It's it's very clean, like it's like re-spending time on an NLE trying to clean up the is it yeah, the Mac.
00:37:52.000 -->
00:37:54.880Uh first day I brought it, I got it off eBay, you know.
00:37:54.880 -->
00:37:57.840Gotta get the use price, get the deal to try it out.
00:37:57.840 -->
00:38:01.199And then um went to the studio, just hooked it up real quick and did it.
00:38:01.199 -->
00:38:06.400I was like, wow, I didn't even really change too many settings on it, and it looks amazing.
00:38:06.400 -->
00:38:11.039And it took us hours to get it to look similar to this on the ATEM.
00:38:11.039 -->
00:38:14.079I don't even want to go back, I don't even want to use the ATM anymore for green screen.
00:38:14.400 -->
00:38:17.440No, and once you play with this, I'm pretty sure you can get like again.
00:38:17.440 -->
00:38:22.960The thing about green screen is as you know, it's those you know, random hairs that are flowing away, right?
00:38:22.960 -->
00:38:24.719It's the detail that gets lost.
00:38:24.719 -->
00:38:30.960And I think Ultimat, obviously, once you play with it, can get those back without having to spend hours, you know, keying, masking, whatever.
00:38:31.199 -->
00:38:42.239If you brought it in here right now, had a green screen, and pressed this um did it or his own settings on it, it would look probably 80, 80, 75, 80% there.
00:38:42.559 -->
00:38:44.079Look at that, and that's really good.
00:38:44.079 -->
00:38:46.639For me, if if you're shooting me, you wouldn't need to do anything else.
00:38:46.639 -->
00:38:47.280Probably not, yeah.
00:38:47.360 -->
00:39:01.840It's only the little bit of you know editing, you know, a little bit of this and that, and but once you really get into it, which we're gonna be getting into in the next couple weeks, um, it's oh man, when we went to the show, they had a lady with uh we went to Infocom.
00:39:01.840 -->
00:39:04.079They had a lady with bleach blonde hair.
00:39:04.079 -->
00:39:04.320Yeah.
00:39:04.320 -->
00:39:05.119She's going like this.
00:39:05.119 -->
00:39:05.599Yeah.
00:39:05.599 -->
00:39:09.760And when I tell you, like it, there was no fraying on it.
00:39:09.760 -->
00:39:11.440And it was just amazing.
00:39:11.519 -->
00:39:13.039I was like, absolutely cool.
00:39:13.039 -->
00:39:13.519How was that?
00:39:13.519 -->
00:39:15.199How how was attending Infocom?
00:39:15.760 -->
00:39:17.119It was it was great.
00:39:17.119 -->
00:39:18.800Um, it was great.
00:39:18.800 -->
00:39:19.679I had a lot of fun.
00:39:19.679 -->
00:39:21.360That was my first time going to one of those.
00:39:21.360 -->
00:39:25.119One for technology and uh video technology.
00:39:25.119 -->
00:39:39.360So got a chance to see a lot of stuff that uh never seen before and things that I've seen online, and you know, I I do dabble in audio as well, so I got to see some of the um audio consoles that I've like, you know, probably will never touch again.
00:39:39.360 -->
00:39:41.280Yeah, and then you just get to touch it and play with it.
00:39:41.280 -->
00:39:43.440Yeah, like you know, oh, this is a hundred thousand dollar.
00:39:43.920 -->
00:39:47.199Yes, and you can just mess with it because they want you to, you know, exactly.
00:39:47.840 -->
00:39:51.280So yeah, I got to mess with a Digico, uh Digico.
00:39:51.280 -->
00:39:53.679Yeah, those things are they're crazy.
00:39:53.679 -->
00:39:56.079I was like, yeah, never mind.
00:39:56.480 -->
00:39:57.440What made you get out of that?
00:39:57.440 -->
00:39:59.840So you're you're saying you've left music totally behind?
00:40:00.159 -->
00:40:03.360Well um, doing music, I still play the piano.
00:40:03.360 -->
00:40:04.800Um, I still sing some.
00:40:04.800 -->
00:40:13.679I'm kind of like a backup musician, but uh, and the musicians at my church kind of ask me, Hey, hey, we just need to get you for a Sunday every once in a while to come play.
00:40:13.679 -->
00:40:18.400I'm like, that's cool, but y'all gotta learn music and the music, yeah.
00:40:18.400 -->
00:40:19.199I have to learn it.
00:40:19.199 -->
00:40:20.000I have to practice.
00:40:20.000 -->
00:40:20.880I don't have to.
00:40:20.880 -->
00:40:29.840I mean, yes, you do have to practice and work on your craft when it comes to video, but I don't have to sit home and make sure that it's this exact way to make it for the show.
00:40:29.840 -->
00:40:33.679And if I mess up at the show Then yeah, he'll he'll ruin it.
00:40:33.679 -->
00:40:40.880Oh man, I went to verse two instead of verse one, and it's totally different chords, and I still I still love music.
00:40:40.880 -->
00:40:48.079It's yeah, I'm always gonna love it, and I'm always gonna, you know, do it, but um, I didn't uh it's weird.
00:40:48.079 -->
00:40:50.079I don't miss it as much as I thought I would.
00:40:50.400 -->
00:40:55.360And that's when you know that you know video or photo may be the more passionate thing for you.
00:40:55.360 -->
00:41:00.239And you know what's crazy for me, I'm envious of people who can do music because I have no music in me.
00:41:00.239 -->
00:41:02.239I can tell you the music works for a video.
00:41:02.239 -->
00:41:03.760That's my limit of it.
00:41:03.760 -->
00:41:06.800I'm like, I I have no beat in me, quite literally.
00:41:06.800 -->
00:41:13.440And I'm like, and this is so funny because I can I can take a video apart, I know exactly when the cut should be or if it's off timed or whatever.
00:41:13.440 -->
00:41:14.320I'm fine with that.
00:41:14.320 -->
00:41:17.199Like, but talk about music, I'm like, I don't know.
00:41:17.199 -->
00:41:22.639I think that's what um I was born with what what's the word for it when you're tone deaf?
00:41:22.639 -->
00:41:23.360Yeah, I'm tone.
00:41:25.039 -->
00:41:31.840I have some good friends that are tone deaf with singing, but they know music better than a lot of musicians I know.
00:41:31.840 -->
00:41:34.079They know the person who sings, they didn't know all the words.
00:41:34.079 -->
00:41:38.320You kind of want them to teach them all that stuff and just say, just don't sing it.
00:41:38.480 -->
00:41:39.039Yeah, exactly.
00:41:39.039 -->
00:41:41.519Maybe that's who I am, because I do know about music.
00:41:41.599 -->
00:41:46.000I'm just yeah, I am like I'm I'm I don't remember names, I don't remember lyrics anymore.
00:41:46.000 -->
00:41:46.880It's crazy.
00:41:46.880 -->
00:41:49.679I it's it's it's like who sang that song?
00:41:49.679 -->
00:41:50.639I know how it goes.
00:41:50.800 -->
00:41:54.000Yeah, you would probably sing it, you know, for the little bit of practice.
00:41:54.239 -->
00:41:54.719Exactly.
00:41:54.719 -->
00:41:57.920So, but you know, I still like doing sound.
00:41:57.920 -->
00:42:09.519Um, but it I mean it helped me out a lot during church because I was able to do almost every position when it comes to I I let praise and worship for for a while.
00:42:09.519 -->
00:42:11.760Um played the piano.
00:42:11.760 -->
00:42:16.480Um I started I was starting to learn other instruments, but that kind of went away.
00:42:16.480 -->
00:42:21.360And then um I could hop on at any point in time and at least do a little something.
00:42:21.360 -->
00:42:25.119Musicians late because it's raining or a car accident in front of them.
00:42:25.440 -->
00:42:25.760Oh, right.
00:42:25.760 -->
00:42:26.800I'll hop on real quick.
00:42:26.800 -->
00:42:28.880Yeah, you'll play some some stuff, right?
00:42:28.880 -->
00:42:29.440Exactly.
00:42:29.440 -->
00:42:30.639That's that's pretty cool.
00:42:30.639 -->
00:42:36.800I mean, like I say, it's good to be versatile, and it's good that you did that, which led you to where you are now and what you're doing.
00:42:36.800 -->
00:42:38.880Like I said, I think you guys are doing great things.
00:42:38.880 -->
00:42:43.280Obviously, I feel like you're spending a lot of money, but that's what you gotta do.
00:42:43.280 -->
00:42:44.639You gotta invest to get it back.
00:42:44.639 -->
00:42:52.559Because you know, you guys built the studio, like you say, you bought an Ultimat, uh, and obviously Quentin's always acquiring equipment, a lot of black magic cameras.
00:42:52.559 -->
00:42:53.440It looks good though.
00:42:53.440 -->
00:42:56.880I like the idea that, for example, with podcasts, right?
00:42:56.880 -->
00:42:59.280Like when we offer podcasts, we do custom, right?
00:42:59.280 -->
00:43:02.320We'll get a nice Airbnb or whatever location for them.
00:43:02.320 -->
00:43:04.400We'll set it up, but that's a one-time thing.
00:43:04.400 -->
00:43:06.320Yes, when we're done, we gotta rip it up art.
00:43:06.320 -->
00:43:09.119So it's a lot of setup time, a lot of breakdown time.
00:43:09.119 -->
00:43:15.360But it's really good to have a space where you're like, hey, this is the set, cameras are ready, you go, it's already attached to control room.
00:43:15.360 -->
00:43:17.920Like you said, it already controls with the ATEM.
00:43:17.920 -->
00:43:21.280So you sit down, we can start, we can cut right there and then.
00:43:21.280 -->
00:43:22.639Here's your file, all right?
00:43:22.639 -->
00:43:24.960You could probably even upload it for them from there on.
00:43:24.960 -->
00:43:27.840Yeah, uh, it makes it easy for the client, right?
00:43:27.840 -->
00:43:29.760Because you're like, what do we have to do?
00:43:29.760 -->
00:43:30.320Nothing.
00:43:30.320 -->
00:43:34.159And I'm sure it's easy on both of your sides because like what do you have to do?
00:43:34.159 -->
00:43:34.639Nothing.
00:43:34.639 -->
00:43:35.519Because it's already there.
00:43:35.519 -->
00:43:37.840I mean, I guess you have to execute it when they sit down.
00:43:37.840 -->
00:43:43.440Yes, but you there's no setup time, there's no teardown time, there's no figuring it out because it's already been figured out once.
00:43:43.840 -->
00:43:48.079Yeah, I mean, there's a little bit of setup time 'cause sometimes people want to, you know, sit like this.
00:43:48.079 -->
00:43:54.239They might want to sit in tall boys, so little stuff here and there, but you know, figuring out how dare they be tall.
00:43:54.880 -->
00:43:55.199Yeah.
00:43:55.199 -->
00:43:56.000Anyway.
00:43:56.000 -->
00:43:56.320Yeah.
00:43:56.559 -->
00:44:01.039So but figuring, you know, is it it is fairly Simple, yeah.
00:44:01.039 -->
00:44:02.559What we're trying to do.
00:44:02.559 -->
00:44:20.719And I think you know, once we get this started and get it going, you know, the other side, we're probably gonna be moving over there soon and possibly building out another set just to have some options and then you know, it's it I think it fits a lot of people, it's just finding those people that are ready.
00:44:20.960 -->
00:44:21.280Yeah.
00:44:21.280 -->
00:44:22.800What about the school then?
00:44:22.800 -->
00:44:26.639If you start taking over the other side too, because obviously you have one side, right?
00:44:26.639 -->
00:44:28.320And you have the school on the other side.
00:44:28.320 -->
00:44:31.119So are you gonna move school somewhere or what we leave at school?
00:44:31.519 -->
00:44:37.360So a little back history, my mother started at daycare when I was in elementary middle school.
00:44:37.519 -->
00:44:37.840Okay.
00:44:38.079 -->
00:44:43.519So she used to take care of old people when we're in California, then she moved here and started taking care of kids.
00:44:43.519 -->
00:44:47.280So she had that going and then she bought a building.
00:44:47.280 -->
00:44:48.880So that building is still there.
00:44:48.880 -->
00:44:57.599It's just we grew out of that building, and you know, through you know, the C-word, we kind of had to restrict it back down and kind of took a lot of students away.
00:44:57.599 -->
00:45:01.280Some graduated and we couldn't go out and recruit like we used to recruit.
00:45:01.280 -->
00:45:08.639We used to you know, oh man, my mom used to be out there every other weekend recruiting, but a lot of the live stuff that happened in person went away.
00:45:08.639 -->
00:45:11.920Florida virtual school, a lot of kids started doing that as well.
00:45:12.159 -->
00:45:14.239Yeah, I think that time was just a reset for everything.
00:45:14.239 -->
00:45:14.880Yeah, right.
00:45:15.119 -->
00:45:21.599So and interestingly enough, one of our teachers on toward the last semester, she moved to Tanzania in Africa.
00:45:21.599 -->
00:45:26.800So she was teaching our kids, my son actually from Tanzania, because she's like she could do it remotely.
00:45:26.800 -->
00:45:28.000So it was kind of cool.
00:45:28.000 -->
00:45:31.760So we still actually have another building to work in.
00:45:31.760 -->
00:45:32.000Okay.
00:45:32.000 -->
00:45:35.679So now everything is moving back there to kind of rebuild that.
00:45:36.000 -->
00:45:38.239So that's where the school's gonna then run out of.
00:45:38.239 -->
00:45:39.199Makes sense.
00:45:39.199 -->
00:45:42.880Uh, and then this area, this location's gonna be just a studio, right?
00:45:43.039 -->
00:45:43.920Yeah, just a studio.
00:45:43.920 -->
00:45:47.119We're gonna be probably renting it out for some other things as well on the other side.
00:45:47.119 -->
00:45:47.599Yeah.
00:45:47.599 -->
00:45:50.000But you know, it's uh it's it's an undertaking.
00:45:50.159 -->
00:45:51.119Yeah, it's it's a lot.
00:45:51.119 -->
00:45:55.280Like I said, uh uh just the little that I watch you guys do, it's a lot.
00:45:55.280 -->
00:45:59.039And I was like, because I know what how much what it took to make this space happen, right?
00:45:59.039 -->
00:46:03.760And this is just uh, like I said, just a garage that I made into a studio and and it's beautiful, yeah.
00:46:03.760 -->
00:46:04.239Well, thank you.
00:46:04.239 -->
00:46:10.719But yeah, I mean at the end of the day, yeah, just doing like I said, all we did was floor, some paint, some panels, you know, air conditioning, insulating.
00:46:10.719 -->
00:46:17.760You know, it's it's not the I'm saying a lot of construction, yeah, but just like yours, it was it sounds like oh, just they painted it, put some scene.
00:46:17.760 -->
00:46:24.159No, it's when you think about yeah, how much you you actually put in and it it's a it's a lot, it takes a lot of time.
00:46:24.159 -->
00:46:27.840Like we were, like I said, hands and knees, and plus continue to run a business.
00:46:27.840 -->
00:46:39.840Because like I said, I I was like I said, going to shoots, coming back, you know, hammer this, hammer that, and then you know, plus learning, because I'm like I'm not a construction worker, so it's like, oh, what's the best way to mount these?
00:46:39.840 -->
00:46:43.679Oh, uh, you know, how do we how do we hide the nails, for example, right?
00:46:43.679 -->
00:46:46.400Oh, we gotta figure it out and everything, you know, it's a step.
00:46:46.400 -->
00:46:47.280It's a step.
00:46:47.280 -->
00:46:50.480And then uh yeah, but uh ultimately, like I said, I love the result.
00:46:50.480 -->
00:46:55.760Now that it's been done, we've been using it uh for what I wanted to get out of the space.
00:46:55.760 -->
00:46:56.800This is perfect.
00:46:56.800 -->
00:46:58.559And like I said, already look at that.
00:46:58.559 -->
00:47:01.280We're having this conversation right here because we built this space.
00:47:01.519 -->
00:47:03.039Sometimes I hey, what did they say?
00:47:03.039 -->
00:47:04.000If you build it, they will come.
00:47:04.159 -->
00:47:04.639Yeah, there you go.
00:47:04.639 -->
00:47:05.119I built it.
00:47:06.239 -->
00:47:08.159Yep, or if you build it, you will use it.
00:47:08.400 -->
00:47:11.760Yeah, I will yeah, because this is more like yeah, obviously, our hangout space.
00:47:11.760 -->
00:47:13.039I don't get clients here or anything.
00:47:13.039 -->
00:47:18.719I mean, we did do one shoot here and it went incredible, but that's not the goal, obviously, this dislocation.
00:47:18.719 -->
00:47:27.199This was just place to house gear, place to have a workspace, place to do the podcast, you know, or maybe some YouTube or whatever, just basic stuff.
00:47:27.199 -->
00:47:29.119And I think for that, this is more than enough.
00:47:29.119 -->
00:47:31.199Plus, it is there's no cost to this.
00:47:31.199 -->
00:47:32.320I don't have any rent.
00:47:32.320 -->
00:47:34.719I mean, I have a mortgage, but I was always gonna have the mortgage.
00:47:34.719 -->
00:47:35.360Exactly.
00:47:35.360 -->
00:47:39.360So this doesn't add to the AC unit.
00:47:39.360 -->
00:47:40.400That's like yeah, there you go.
00:47:40.400 -->
00:47:41.840Yeah, that which takes up.
00:47:41.840 -->
00:47:46.079I I didn't realize how much uh electricity costs when you're running an AC 24-7.
00:47:46.079 -->
00:47:54.639Yeah, somehow I I cooled the whole house there, and that costs less than cooling this space, even after insulating it.
00:47:54.639 -->
00:47:57.199By the way, most places, you know, the garage is insulated, right?
00:47:57.199 -->
00:48:04.320We made sure the ceiling is insulated, the floor is insulated, the door is insulated, and it's still like my bill almost doubled, you know.
00:48:04.320 -->
00:48:06.960Wow, because it's 24-7, it's Florida, you know.
00:48:06.960 -->
00:48:08.000Yeah, obviously it's fine.
00:48:08.000 -->
00:48:13.280It was fine January because it wasn't the hottest, but yeah, man, after that, you know how it's Florida, yeah.
00:48:13.280 -->
00:48:15.920It's so hot, like it's just running 24-7.
00:48:15.920 -->
00:48:17.519Imagine running those racks.
00:48:17.519 -->
00:48:18.400Oh, wow, yeah.
00:48:18.639 -->
00:48:23.280The AC at the studio, even if we're not there, I just keep it at a constant temperature.
00:48:23.280 -->
00:48:24.239It actually works pretty good.
00:48:24.239 -->
00:48:26.639The AC, the I it's not a good thing.
00:48:26.639 -->
00:48:28.320Yeah, you probably have a commercial there though.
00:48:28.320 -->
00:48:29.039That's why, yeah.
00:48:29.280 -->
00:48:31.440Because that's why if you notice, my rack is not in here.
00:48:31.440 -->
00:48:33.840That's why my rack is in there that you were mentioning.
00:48:33.840 -->
00:48:36.079Because yeah, I don't want that to be in here than it would be.
00:48:36.079 -->
00:48:36.719Oh my goodness.
00:48:36.880 -->
00:48:42.559You get in that room and it really starts working, it and the AC is at full blast, and you're like, is the AC on?
00:48:42.559 -->
00:48:43.119Exactly.
00:48:43.119 -->
00:48:45.920No, yes, it is on, it's been on all day.
00:48:46.079 -->
00:48:49.039Yeah, so I'm guessing Quentin's a more technical out of the two of you.
00:48:49.039 -->
00:48:51.840Um or you think you're technical too?
00:48:52.159 -->
00:48:54.960Um, he has more experience with the equipment that we have.
00:48:54.960 -->
00:48:56.400I'm very technical too.
00:48:56.400 -->
00:49:02.480Um it's you know, meeting somebody that's more technical than me was interesting because that doesn't always happen.
00:49:02.480 -->
00:49:04.000I was always the technical one.
00:49:04.000 -->
00:49:05.760I was always the one tinkering with stuff.
00:49:05.760 -->
00:49:08.320It's like, hey, Quentin loves tinker up with stuff too.
00:49:08.320 -->
00:49:13.440So I was sitting in the I was sitting in the studio the other day, just lent hearing him explain some of the stuff.
00:49:13.440 -->
00:49:15.840Yeah, of course I understand I understand it now.
00:49:15.840 -->
00:49:18.960Yeah, um, and I was like, Quentin, do you know that you're a genius?
00:49:18.960 -->
00:49:20.800Yeah, don't let anybody tell you anything different.
00:49:21.280 -->
00:49:22.320No, he's he's a great guy.
00:49:22.320 -->
00:49:23.920My issue with Quentin is the opposite.
00:49:23.920 -->
00:49:26.960Believe it or not, I love talking about what we do, right?
00:49:26.960 -->
00:49:32.960Video Yes, uh, you know, video production, just tech gear in general.
00:49:32.960 -->
00:49:35.599Problem I have with Quentin, Quentin's just like me.
00:49:35.599 -->
00:49:38.480So he and I, if I start talking, I'll get no work done.
00:49:38.480 -->
00:49:41.840We'll be there hours talking, and I'm like, holy moly.
00:49:41.840 -->
00:49:55.920And we can and and it's not a bad, I'm saying I love that, but I'm like, if I start doing that, my business will shut down if Quentin and I got become business partners because uh so there was a while we were thinking about it, and I was like, because I wanted to run like an A V company.
00:49:55.920 -->
00:49:58.719There was a debate between for me, because you know that's his thing, right?
00:49:58.719 -->
00:50:04.000I do live streaming, but it's to help brands, that's the the limit of how what we do.
00:50:04.000 -->
00:50:05.840He obviously can go deeper, you know.
00:50:05.840 -->
00:50:08.719I'm saying doing a whole whole A V thing.
00:50:08.719 -->
00:50:24.079So we were thinking about it, and I was like, I genuinely was like, this guy's so like me and so gearhead and so tech that if I he and I became partners, we would just sit and talk and talk for hours, nothing's actually going to happen.
00:50:24.079 -->
00:50:25.280And then go and be an H and buy.
00:50:25.280 -->
00:50:26.800Yeah, exactly, and buy, yeah, right.
00:50:26.800 -->
00:50:30.159I I don't need somebody who would be the opposite, who tell me do not buy.
00:50:30.159 -->
00:50:33.360Believe it or not, I literally was like, This year I'm gonna buy less gear.
00:50:33.360 -->
00:50:37.039$40,000, $50,000 later, in the last 30 days.
00:50:37.039 -->
00:50:39.440I mean, you saw walking in, I'm like, what am I doing?
00:50:39.440 -->
00:50:44.480I mean, to be real, again, everything had a reason, but still, yes, I don't need a Quentin in my life as well.
00:50:44.480 -->
00:50:46.480I always find a reason.
00:50:46.480 -->
00:50:50.239Yeah, right, which is why I don't need another Quentin to find me more reasons to buy.
00:50:50.239 -->
00:50:51.840We're both married, we know.
00:50:52.079 -->
00:50:53.440Yeah, we know, yeah, exactly.
00:50:53.440 -->
00:51:00.719They can say, hey, yeah, oh, I could buy these other shoes, I could buy this other outfit, and yeah, we can buy another camera.
00:51:00.800 -->
00:51:10.639Yeah, so like right there, I was justifying, you know, I was like, Oh, I gotta acquire an FX2, you know, because I need a photography camera, you know, but also needed to be video, you know.
00:51:10.639 -->
00:51:13.840That's just yeah, that that's just a constant thing.
00:51:13.840 -->
00:51:15.519Um, I also want to talk about.
00:51:15.519 -->
00:51:21.519So we I have a client that I've been helping through my chamber, uh, Austin Arthur.
00:51:21.519 -->
00:51:24.719He runs like a management company, we can call it, right?
00:51:24.719 -->
00:51:26.719Like an agency, advertising agency.
00:51:26.719 -->
00:51:28.880So, anyway, he'll call me sporadically.
00:51:28.880 -->
00:51:31.039It's just one of those clients that I've known for a few years.
00:51:31.039 -->
00:51:34.400I'm happy to help him, uh, but nothing you know, major or whatever.
00:51:34.400 -->
00:51:41.840Anyway, so he calls me for this shoot earlier this year, and it was for and they he with his uh brother co-ones the gymnastics location.
00:51:41.840 -->
00:51:47.360And I've been always wanting to film that because you know, again, high I like most of the stuff he does a little boring, right?
00:51:47.360 -->
00:51:50.079So anytime uh people I'm sure people have heard this by now.
00:51:50.079 -->
00:51:52.159Anytime an exciting thing comes up, I'm all for it.
00:51:52.159 -->
00:51:58.400Yeah, so he calls me and he's like, Hey, yeah, we're gonna do a shoot for our gymnastics, and I was like, Let's go.
00:51:58.400 -->
00:52:00.559I even call him annual, like he wasn't part of the shoot.
00:52:00.559 -->
00:52:03.039I was like, No, you're coming, we're gonna go have a good time.
00:52:03.039 -->
00:52:07.039I thought it would be like a b-roll, you know, because he didn't tell me a script or anything.
00:52:07.039 -->
00:52:16.559So uh, so anyway, I was I'm really excited, and and plus, this is the first time he's seen the van because all the stuff I've done is for more for his agency stuff, not for his gymnastics location.
00:52:16.559 -->
00:52:20.400And so me and Mario show, first of all, the van was the coolest thing ever, right?
00:52:20.400 -->
00:52:24.159But then they're like, Oh, here's the shoe, here's the script for a commercial.
00:52:24.159 -->
00:52:26.320I'm like, oh, we're shooting a commercial.
00:52:26.320 -->
00:52:33.840Uh it would be nice to have the script before because I could have prepared better, but you know, corporate shoot, like we'll roll with the punches.
00:52:33.840 -->
00:52:37.360And uh what's crazy to me is so now we're shooting a commercial, right?
00:52:37.360 -->
00:52:39.760Me and Mario, I'm like so glad you're here, Mario.
00:52:39.760 -->
00:52:46.320And uh, but it obviously they they know marketing, they understand, so the script was very tight, you know, like they know what they want to do, where they want to do it.
00:52:46.320 -->
00:52:50.239So it makes it makes it a lot easier on us to be able to execute that.
00:52:50.239 -->
00:52:51.840So, anyway, it was a fun day for us.
00:52:51.840 -->
00:53:02.159Uh, you know, we got to see a lot of cool stuff, uh, a lot of talented gymnastics people, and plus, I was surprised how big that location is huge.
00:53:02.159 -->
00:53:08.960Like, we only saw first the first half, and then there's like, oh, this is like a whole another this is where the ninjas go.
00:53:08.960 -->
00:53:10.800This is where they they had the ribbons.
00:53:10.800 -->
00:53:12.559This is for the pros, right?
00:53:12.559 -->
00:53:15.360Anyway, and then the anyway, Mario, what do you think about that shoot?
00:53:15.360 -->
00:53:16.400Do you remember?
00:53:16.880 -->
00:53:17.599Yes, I do.
00:53:17.599 -->
00:53:19.519Yeah, uh, it was really fun.
00:53:19.519 -->
00:53:23.760I uh uh what I like is the um they really know what they wanted, right?
00:53:23.760 -->
00:53:27.760Like uh Austin with all his team, they were okay.
00:53:27.760 -->
00:53:31.519Yeah, they had a whole script never a script that you already know, okay.
00:53:31.519 -->
00:53:37.360Let's do this outside, then we go inside, or let's just go to a ninja section and then to this this section.
00:53:37.360 -->
00:53:42.320So yeah, I think it was great, and we just saw a video, and yeah, it turned out great.
00:53:42.559 -->
00:53:44.320Yeah, so before we started, we saw the video.
00:53:44.320 -->
00:53:46.000So so anyway, I didn't know this.
00:53:46.000 -->
00:53:50.400So anyway, obviously obviously we did this, we had a good time, it's just a shoot for us, right?
00:53:50.400 -->
00:53:52.159Uh, and I was like, this is pretty cool.
00:53:52.159 -->
00:53:54.320The kids are telling obviously they had different ranges, right?
00:53:54.320 -->
00:53:58.800There's smaller kids, younger kids, and then pros on the other side doing crazy stuff, obviously.
00:53:58.800 -->
00:54:00.159And so it was really good.
00:54:00.159 -->
00:54:02.960It was good to get a little bit of everything, and we had a good time.
00:54:02.960 -->
00:54:09.519But then I didn't know this until later when we were on the pro side, we were actually filming your son because he goes there.
00:54:09.760 -->
00:54:10.639He goes there, yeah.
00:54:10.800 -->
00:54:12.239And uh tell tell about that.
00:54:12.239 -->
00:54:28.400Like, how did that you you so essentially again from my side, I guess, is we were I was visiting, I guess, Quentin the day I rented his FX6, and you were telling me about it about uh the gymnastics place, yeah, and uh and I was like, that was me, and I don't think you knew that, right?
00:54:28.400 -->
00:54:30.159Like nope, no, so so go ahead.
00:54:30.239 -->
00:54:34.000I mean uh so um my son does gymnastics and he loves it.
00:54:34.000 -->
00:54:39.039He started out just by flipping off of everything, and we were like, we gotta get you into gymnastics.
00:54:39.039 -->
00:54:43.760It was the big C-word, COVID time, and couldn't do anything, and then finally it eased up.
00:54:43.760 -->
00:54:48.239We're like, we're taking you to gymnastics, and we took them and it just took off.
00:54:48.239 -->
00:54:50.239And he loves it, he loves doing it.
00:54:50.239 -->
00:54:55.519And um, I mean, and you didn't really get to see the really cool stuff.
00:54:55.519 -->
00:55:04.239So, one thing that that gym does, I I love that gym by the way, what they've done for my son, the structure that they've put in place for him because we had to move to there.
00:55:04.239 -->
00:55:07.440And um they're just really cool people.
00:55:07.440 -->
00:55:12.320It's a it's a good um It's a good group of parents as well.
00:55:12.320 -->
00:55:18.239You know, after after meets we go and eat together as a team with the coaches.
00:55:18.239 -->
00:55:19.360I was like, what?
00:55:20.239 -->
00:55:22.000What we're eating with the coaches?
00:55:22.000 -->
00:55:23.360It's so crazy, right?
00:55:23.760 -->
00:55:29.679Him and his wife, yeah, this lovely people, but um they they really train those kids really hard.
00:55:29.679 -->
00:55:32.000And and my son loves it.
00:55:32.000 -->
00:55:35.679The first day he went to that gym, he said, Daddy, I'm sore.
00:55:35.679 -->
00:55:38.159Oh wow, and he was so worked him out, yeah.
00:55:38.159 -->
00:55:40.800Yes, and he's like, Yes, I just love this place.
00:55:40.800 -->
00:55:51.440So and um but the really cool thing, it would have been nice for y'all to come was when they do their actual Olympics, the Mako Olympics for the pre-team.
00:55:51.440 -->
00:55:55.679Oh man, they had kids, they had my son in the ceiling tiles.
00:55:55.679 -->
00:56:06.719Yeah, wow crazy, and his kid came on the zip line as Spider-Man, and it was yeah, so they do a lot of stuff for the kids, and you know, the the commercial really did turn out great.
00:56:06.719 -->
00:56:07.920I saw my son's head in it.
00:56:08.079 -->
00:56:12.960Yeah, I know it was like the you know, and obviously we we didn't edit that, so they edited that.
00:56:12.960 -->
00:56:16.719That was one of those where you know we handled the footage, so I had no idea how they're gonna edit it.
00:56:16.719 -->
00:56:18.000Obviously, it came out great.
00:56:18.000 -->
00:56:21.519We watched it, like I said, right before we started, and it was incredible.
00:56:21.519 -->
00:56:28.159Uh, but what's crazy to me is like you said, it's one of the largest facilities, I think, for gymnastics in Florida.
00:56:28.159 -->
00:56:36.159Yes, and then on top of that, you know, like I said, I know Austin for a while, and I think his brother, and I think it's his wife, who's running this, and they're they're doing great jobs.
00:56:36.159 -->
00:56:36.880It's good too.
00:56:36.880 -->
00:56:41.599I've obviously met Alexander at Austin's office, had never met his wife, but I think they're doing great.
00:56:41.599 -->
00:56:45.119We also got to film, I think, Austin's children there for part of that.
00:56:45.119 -->
00:56:47.119Yeah, uh, but again, at the time I didn't know.
00:56:47.119 -->
00:56:51.519I knew you, because we had met and done the Kia thing, that your son goes there.
00:56:51.519 -->
00:56:54.960So I'm filming, and I think you were talking about, and so it's crazy.
00:56:54.960 -->
00:56:58.000So we've shot this thing, we've we we moved on, right?
00:56:58.000 -->
00:56:59.440And then you were telling me about it.
00:56:59.440 -->
00:57:00.320And I was like, What?
00:57:00.320 -->
00:57:04.320Your son goes there, so I filmed him, and obviously there's way more footage of him that we did.
00:57:04.320 -->
00:57:20.079Uh obviously, they used what they used, but like it's just such a small world, like you know that we didn't know people between common, and your son's going there, and he's also gonna be um uh like he's you know, like you said, he was in the nationals or whatever, he's he's doing really amazing.
00:57:20.079 -->
00:57:25.360And uh, I think the way I found out was something about you posted about how it was good the coaches, right?
00:57:25.360 -->
00:57:28.320Alexander, but and I was like, huh, you know him?
00:57:28.320 -->
00:57:30.320And I was like, then that's what I think I asked you about.
00:57:30.719 -->
00:57:31.840Yes, you asked me about that.
00:57:31.840 -->
00:57:36.320Yes, uh, you know, sometimes you just gotta let people know that you appreciate them and put it out there.
00:57:36.320 -->
00:57:38.880So I just wanted to make sure, you know, maybe he saw it, maybe he didn't.
00:57:38.880 -->
00:57:39.199I don't know.
00:57:39.199 -->
00:57:41.119Actually, no, he did see it because he mentioned something.
00:57:41.119 -->
00:57:42.880He's like, Yeah, I didn't know you did this.
00:57:42.880 -->
00:57:43.920I was like, Yeah.
00:57:44.159 -->
00:57:53.039Yeah, I mean, because they're helping your son, and like you said, what what we talked about, like they're genuinely wanting to, you know, help him and help him grow in his skill and succeed.
00:57:53.039 -->
00:57:59.840Because, you know, it's again, it's just like us when people do what they like for a living, what they love, it just makes it better, right?
00:57:59.840 -->
00:58:02.800And then you it's it's nothing but something you want to appreciate.
00:58:02.800 -->
00:58:09.679Because at the end of the day, you want your son to do his best, and if they want the same thing, then everyone wins, you know, because that's their job.
00:58:09.679 -->
00:58:14.719But then if they love their job, then your son's gonna do their best and see that and feel that, you know.
00:58:14.719 -->
00:58:16.000And like I said, I felt it.
00:58:16.000 -->
00:58:21.440I was only there one day though, so I I my experience is limited, but I think both of us had a great time.
00:58:21.440 -->
00:58:22.800We're like, this is an awesome place.
00:58:22.800 -->
00:58:28.639You know, I was there, I was like from both sides, from people who are in experience to who are who are doing the pro side.
00:58:28.639 -->
00:58:31.599I was like, wow, like everyone is just having a good time.
00:58:31.599 -->
00:58:35.519And if it was I wish I wasn't in that side, I would send love to send my kids there.
00:58:35.519 -->
00:58:36.000Yeah.
00:58:36.000 -->
00:58:44.960Um, you know, because uh I genuinely felt like it was a good place, and again, I'm so glad that we have that connect in the yeah, you know, and and that's what I'm talking about.
00:58:44.960 -->
00:58:47.599You never know who you know where you never know.
00:58:47.599 -->
00:58:50.079And networking is so huge in what we do.
00:58:50.079 -->
00:58:55.519You gotta always be go out there, you know, say hello to everyone, try to network.
00:58:55.519 -->
00:58:58.960Uh, cause uh because again, like I said, the world is very small, yeah.
00:58:58.960 -->
00:59:00.079And integrity.
00:59:00.159 -->
00:59:00.639Yeah, integrity.
00:59:00.639 -->
00:59:01.920Integrity is a big thing.
00:59:01.920 -->
00:59:10.400Um, I can't tell you how many um when I go on a church shoot, now my my pastor, he's he used to preach all around the country a lot.
00:59:10.400 -->
00:59:16.719Now he's kind of not stepped away from the role, but kind of stepped back um and took back over the church.
00:59:16.719 -->
00:59:22.079And I'll go to some places and they'll know who I am and where I came from.
00:59:22.079 -->
00:59:23.039I didn't tell them.
00:59:23.119 -->
00:59:23.440Yeah.
00:59:23.920 -->
00:59:32.400Um, one time I was I was in Tennessee doing a church conference, just doing photography and some video work for them, recap videos every day.
00:59:32.400 -->
00:59:35.280And it was like, Yeah, I know exactly who you are.
00:59:35.280 -->
00:59:36.320I know your team and everything.
00:59:36.320 -->
00:59:41.760And I and the great thing about it is I my most of my team are teenagers.
00:59:41.760 -->
00:59:45.119I actually acquired preteens a few years ago.
00:59:45.119 -->
00:59:50.159I had a kid start it when he was nine, and he's probably one of my best people right now.
00:59:50.159 -->
00:59:52.400And he's 11, I think.
00:59:52.400 -->
00:59:53.03912.
00:59:53.039 -->
00:59:54.239Well, he just turned 12.
00:59:54.239 -->
01:00:05.199And um, working with the young people there is just so amazing because like you you s sometimes I sit back and I just like I get everything started and just kind of sit back and let them do their thing.
01:00:05.360 -->
01:00:06.719Yeah, it's a spark, right?
01:00:06.719 -->
01:00:09.039So they'll just have the have the spark.
01:00:09.039 -->
01:00:19.360And then I think as a teacher, obviously, uh, you know, I think that's what makes I think also a good teacher, bad teacher, whatever it's like being able to bring that spark out of somebody, right?
01:00:19.360 -->
01:00:20.639I think that's the key.
01:00:20.639 -->
01:00:27.440Because I remember uh growing up anyway, I having teachers who are just like, do this, do this, and I'm like, This is so boring.
01:00:27.440 -->
01:00:30.559And then then teachers who make even boring things interesting, right?
01:00:30.559 -->
01:00:32.079They make you want to be part of it.
01:00:32.079 -->
01:00:35.599And I think so it also goes on to say how good of a teacher you are.
01:00:35.599 -->
01:00:43.280Because if you're bringing these young kids to have more interest in them doing their best, then I I mean that's all they really want, right?
01:00:43.280 -->
01:00:45.360Somebody to pull out that spark out of them, right?
01:00:45.599 -->
01:00:53.920Yeah, and just and I'd like to try to I tell them, I said, um I know some of you aren't gonna be in this forever.
01:00:53.920 -->
01:00:58.880You know, you're just doing this because you want to do something or your parents made you do it in the beginning, honestly.
01:00:58.880 -->
01:01:01.199Most of them, their parents made them do it in the beginning.
01:01:01.199 -->
01:01:05.599Um, but as they grow to love it, some of them will do this professionally.
01:01:06.559 -->
01:01:08.400And that's how you find out, you know.
01:01:08.400 -->
01:01:12.079Like you said, I'm sure a lot of parents send their kids to the gymnastic location.
01:01:12.079 -->
01:01:16.239Not everyone turns pro like your son is, and that's where the spark is, right?
01:01:16.239 -->
01:01:16.880You have to find it.
01:01:16.880 -->
01:01:20.800You're like, oh wow, yeah, this is and I'm sure the coach notices too, right?
01:01:20.800 -->
01:01:23.519He's like, oh yeah, I gotta I gotta hone the skills of this kid.
01:01:23.519 -->
01:01:24.239He has potential.
01:01:24.480 -->
01:01:43.679Yeah, and one thing I love about gymnastics is it teaches so much discipline and they have to work at it and it's physical, and and the big thing is even if they e even if he doesn't end up going to college for it, let's just say, because you know, of course, his is he aspires to do it professionally and go to Olympics one day.
01:01:43.679 -->
01:01:54.559But even if that doesn't happen, he just does it and stops when he goes to college, you still learn how to deal with people, deal with adversity, deal with winning, deal with losing, yeah, which is a huge thing.
01:01:54.800 -->
01:01:55.119Exactly.
01:01:55.119 -->
01:01:57.440Those are important life skills, important life schools.
01:01:57.519 -->
01:01:58.239You already went through that.
01:01:58.239 -->
01:02:00.719You've you've been at the top, you've been at the bottom.
01:02:00.719 -->
01:02:05.119You've did it where you got all the medals, and you've been there when you got no medals.
01:02:05.199 -->
01:02:05.360Yeah.
01:02:05.440 -->
01:02:06.400And you know how to deal with it.
01:02:06.400 -->
01:02:10.960And sometimes those are the life lessons that they have to learn that not all kids get a chance to learn.
01:02:10.960 -->
01:02:13.280And yeah, the coach is on them.
01:02:13.280 -->
01:02:14.320Yeah, coach, yeah.
01:02:14.320 -->
01:02:15.920Coach Xander is on them.
01:02:15.920 -->
01:02:18.639He was actually coach of the oh, I forgot to tell you, he was coach of the year this year.
01:02:18.639 -->
01:02:19.039Oh, really?
01:02:19.039 -->
01:02:19.840For I didn't know that.
01:02:19.840 -->
01:02:22.960For um USA gymnastics in the whole country.
01:02:23.199 -->
01:02:23.360Wow.
01:02:23.360 -->
01:02:23.840That's awesome.
01:02:23.840 -->
01:02:26.000Like I said, they're they're killing it, man.
01:02:26.000 -->
01:02:28.559Both the brothers, they're they're on top of what they're doing.
01:02:28.559 -->
01:02:30.320I mean, Austin's everywhere too.
01:02:30.320 -->
01:02:33.440I mean, he was running for um commissioner, I think.
01:02:33.440 -->
01:02:34.320Uh oh, he was?
01:02:34.320 -->
01:02:34.880I didn't know that.
01:02:34.880 -->
01:02:36.000What was he running for?
01:02:36.000 -->
01:02:36.960Uh I don't know.
01:02:36.960 -->
01:02:38.639It's it's some some office too.
01:02:38.639 -->
01:02:41.199Like, you know, I helped him with some of his campaign stuff.
01:02:41.199 -->
01:02:44.719So yeah, he, you know, they're they're always out, they're out in the community helping people.
01:02:44.719 -->
01:02:50.960We also helped them with uh him with a documentary that he's trying to do for Winter Garden and stuff, East Winter Garden.
01:02:50.960 -->
01:02:55.039So, like I said, they're always out in the community doing something, helping out, and that's awesome.
01:02:55.039 -->
01:02:57.440I mean, it's the same thing for us, like I said.
01:02:57.440 -->
01:02:59.039Quentin's doing the same thing.
01:02:59.039 -->
01:03:00.239I mean, I need any help.
01:03:00.239 -->
01:03:01.599Funny is rare.
01:03:01.599 -->
01:03:07.760I know like I said, I I usually have everything and I usually know most of it, but again, even I don't know everything.
01:03:07.760 -->
01:03:09.119Yeah, nobody knows everything.
01:03:09.119 -->
01:03:10.639So, and then Quentin's my guy.
01:03:10.639 -->
01:03:14.719Usually, if I don't know anything, he's the one who's gonna know that specific thing.
01:03:14.719 -->
01:03:18.800So, like recently, I was thinking about getting uh live units, you know.
01:03:18.800 -->
01:03:22.880Yes, and uh guess who's called who I called, you know, Quentin Quentin.
01:03:22.880 -->
01:03:27.920I mean, he doesn't answer my phones anymore since the studio because he's busy, but he called me back, you know what I mean?
01:03:27.920 -->
01:03:32.880Like, because uh I know he's he's busy, you know, getting that place uh wherever he wants.
01:03:33.679 -->
01:03:36.800And we're about to go to Africa again in uh about two weeks.
01:03:37.039 -->
01:03:37.440Look at that.
01:03:37.440 -->
01:03:39.679And then how long are you going for this time?
01:03:40.079 -->
01:03:41.67917 days, I think it is.
01:03:41.679 -->
01:03:42.71916, 17 days.
01:03:43.039 -->
01:03:43.599It's a long trip.
01:03:43.679 -->
01:03:44.880Yep, he probably he gets back.
01:03:44.880 -->
01:03:46.960Are you taking the Sony or are you black magic?
01:03:46.960 -->
01:03:48.639Um, I'm taking my Sony's.
01:03:48.639 -->
01:03:50.639I'm I'm I'm doing photography for this trip.
01:03:50.719 -->
01:03:52.320So and is he gonna do video?
01:03:52.559 -->
01:03:54.320He's doing video, so it's gonna be fun.
01:03:54.320 -->
01:03:55.280He's taking his FX6.
01:03:55.280 -->
01:03:56.320So that's what I thought.
01:03:56.320 -->
01:03:56.960Yeah, yeah.
01:03:56.960 -->
01:03:59.440Black magic isn't the best for run and gun.
01:03:59.440 -->
01:03:59.760Yeah.
01:03:59.760 -->
01:04:02.320Unless you want to manually focus all the time.
01:04:02.559 -->
01:04:04.079But he's uh no, he's he's good.
01:04:04.079 -->
01:04:07.199And like I said, he like was saying he's knowledgeable about it too.
01:04:07.199 -->
01:04:12.239I called him and he was immediately able to answer my questions because I was like, hey, I want to acquire some of these.
01:04:12.239 -->
01:04:12.719What do you think?
01:04:12.719 -->
01:04:13.679And whatever, whatever.
01:04:13.679 -->
01:04:17.280And he was like, Yeah, this is how much it's gonna be, or this is how it's not gonna be.
01:04:17.280 -->
01:04:27.840There's another company that was able to research, you know, and that's what you need as a as a as somebody in the industry, and that's why I'm saying it's so important to have the network where you know I know a lot about it, but I know everything.
01:04:27.840 -->
01:04:32.639And like you said, you guys went to Inco Infocom, he knew the latest products and and stuff like that.
01:04:32.639 -->
01:04:34.320And he was like, Yeah, this is right.
01:04:34.320 -->
01:04:36.960And then I was like, Okay, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
01:04:36.960 -->
01:04:38.320And you know, I was able to go.
01:04:38.320 -->
01:04:42.559Same thing when he wanted the FX6, he had called me, he was like, Send me a photo of your rig.
01:04:42.559 -->
01:04:47.280He wanted to see how to rig it up or whatever, or what his options were, and that's what I'm saying.
01:04:47.280 -->
01:04:50.880It's a collaborative industry, you work together and you succeed together.
01:04:50.880 -->
01:04:54.079Uh now talk about uh pricing strategies.
01:04:54.079 -->
01:04:55.039How are you?
01:04:55.039 -->
01:05:00.800I know you do photography, you do videography, you're doing some podcast stuff, you're doing live stuff.
01:05:00.800 -->
01:05:02.559I mean, there's a lot you guys do.
01:05:02.559 -->
01:05:06.239Yeah, uh, let's go with photography, because that's mostly what I've seen you do.
01:05:06.239 -->
01:05:08.480At least when I'm approaching, you're like, I got a photo session.
01:05:08.480 -->
01:05:10.239So, how do you normally price?
01:05:10.239 -->
01:05:12.960What could somebody let's say somebody's interested in it?
01:05:12.960 -->
01:05:20.239Uh, you know, and I know it's skill-based, there's a lot of ranges, but what can somebody realistically expect to charge?
01:05:20.239 -->
01:05:23.280I don't know, if they're if they want to do photography.
01:05:23.599 -->
01:05:25.119First off, let me be let me be real.
01:05:25.119 -->
01:05:33.360Yeah so I am into the professional side of it, I am really starting to get into that side of it and pricing it.
01:05:33.360 -->
01:05:40.480Because um, one thing about doing it for church where you're learning, you don't always you don't charge all the time.
01:05:40.480 -->
01:05:44.320You know, sometimes they'll bless you, give you some money and things of that nature, but you don't always charge.
01:05:44.320 -->
01:05:48.159So I'm working on growing that and learning, you know, my worth.
01:05:48.159 -->
01:05:52.400It's hard to it's hard to learn your worth when you're used to it just doing it because it's fun.
01:05:52.400 -->
01:05:52.880Yeah.
01:05:52.880 -->
01:05:59.840So I would say if you're starting out, of course you're gonna do a lot of free stuff.
01:05:59.840 -->
01:06:01.679Do a lot of free stuff.
01:06:01.679 -->
01:06:03.760I suggest if you have kids, do your kids.
01:06:03.760 -->
01:06:09.519If you have a wife or fiance or brothers and sisters, parents, do them first.
01:06:09.519 -->
01:06:11.440That's the best thing to start with.
01:06:11.440 -->
01:06:19.840I am trying to get into the you know I guess you would say the five, six hundred dollar range.
01:06:20.239 -->
01:06:22.079That's like sort of like a session you're saying.
01:06:22.400 -->
01:06:31.039Yes, that's what I'm trying to work towards that, but it's finding a clientele because it's hard to and I was just talking to somebody, I was talking to my wife about this actually.
01:06:31.039 -->
01:06:39.039Um, how do you get the mindset of people to get you out of the oh you said how much?
01:06:39.039 -->
01:06:41.039I was expecting like a hundred dollars.
01:06:41.039 -->
01:06:41.280Yeah.
01:06:41.280 -->
01:06:45.199I'm like, do you know that my rig is like seven grand?
01:06:45.519 -->
01:06:46.880Yeah, and then you have to edit the photo.
01:06:46.880 -->
01:06:47.679You have to edit it?
01:06:52.239 -->
01:06:57.760And of course, getting out of what you think is a good deal.
01:06:57.760 -->
01:06:58.880Because it's like I do this.
01:06:58.880 -->
01:07:03.920So for me, it's like I needed a picture, I just set it on a tripod and take the picture, you know?
01:07:03.920 -->
01:07:10.400But for them, it's like, oh no, you need the expertise, you need the posing, you need to have somebody that knows how to a little bit about makeup.
01:07:10.400 -->
01:07:12.239You know, like the camera.
01:07:12.239 -->
01:07:19.119What's the undertone of the person to be able to light them correctly and make sure that when you go and post, it's not as much work.
01:07:19.119 -->
01:07:26.400Hey, I need to be able to give you the stuff turnaround to the same day, yeah, or I need to do high-end type things.
01:07:26.400 -->
01:07:36.159So, I mean, I would guess if somebody's just doing a regular photo shoot, um, I would guess the two to four hundred dollar range would probably be your start.
01:07:36.320 -->
01:07:36.719Yeah.
01:07:36.960 -->
01:07:40.239Starting, um, and they could just go up from there depending on what you need.
01:07:40.239 -->
01:07:40.719I want to.
01:07:41.280 -->
01:07:45.920These are personal photos, so you're helping, you know, a family or a couple or a individual.
01:07:45.920 -->
01:07:48.000There's obviously more money, right?
01:07:48.000 -->
01:07:49.440When you start to do company stuff.
01:07:49.440 -->
01:07:49.920Yes.
01:07:49.920 -->
01:07:53.679So if if obviously, and it also depends, I guess, on people's personality.
01:07:53.679 -->
01:07:56.880If they just want to do it for individuals, then that's fine.
01:07:56.880 -->
01:07:58.719I mean, this is a good rate too.
01:07:58.719 -->
01:08:06.000But if you really want to just make money, companies where you're at, doing corporate divisions, exactly corporate photography, headshots, right?
01:08:06.159 -->
01:08:11.280Yeah, and that's where it's kind of hard of pricing, is saying, hey, I want to be able to do these family shoes.
01:08:11.280 -->
01:08:12.239I like doing it.
01:08:12.239 -->
01:08:13.360I really do like doing it.
01:08:13.360 -->
01:08:13.679Yeah.
01:08:13.679 -->
01:08:19.199You know, um, but then also, hey, I have a family uh I have you I need you to do a family reunion.
01:08:19.199 -->
01:08:35.760Yeah, that's gonna be a lot different pricing structure than hey, me and my husband want to do a photo shoot for uh for an hour for our anniversary, versus I need to make a whole set, I need to drive 45 minutes, I gotta bring all these lights, I'm not gonna know what's going on.
01:08:35.760 -->
01:08:40.079I gotta do, oh, there's like eight different families in this big family.
01:08:40.079 -->
01:08:48.880I need to do some of those, pose them here, pose them there, and by the time you leave three hours later, you are totally exhausted.
01:08:49.039 -->
01:08:50.800Yeah, and that would be a lot more money, right?
01:08:50.800 -->
01:08:51.840A lot more money.
01:08:51.840 -->
01:08:54.640Uh, you know, like you said, there's eight families.
01:08:54.640 -->
01:08:58.079You're driving, you're also going on location with some of them coming to your studio.
01:08:58.079 -->
01:08:58.560Yes.
01:08:58.560 -->
01:08:59.840So what would something like that be?
01:08:59.840 -->
01:09:01.760What a couple thousand, maybe more?
01:09:02.239 -->
01:09:03.119That would be nice.
01:09:03.119 -->
01:09:03.600Yeah.
01:09:03.600 -->
01:09:05.840But probably in um starting in a thousand range.
01:09:05.840 -->
01:09:06.000Okay.
01:09:06.000 -->
01:09:07.520I mean, for something for a big family.
01:09:07.520 -->
01:09:08.079Yes.
01:09:08.159 -->
01:09:09.520Um really not bad.
01:09:09.520 -->
01:09:11.920You going there for three hours, you know, like you said.
01:09:11.920 -->
01:09:12.399Yeah.
01:09:12.399 -->
01:09:14.720Getting some photos done and giving that.
01:09:15.199 -->
01:09:20.239You know, first 30, 30-ish minutes, you're just like kind of talking, getting people where that, finding out who's who.
01:09:20.399 -->
01:09:20.640Yeah.
01:09:20.800 -->
01:09:22.239Okay, this is this is grandma.
01:09:22.239 -->
01:09:24.479So make sure to get her and do that.
01:09:24.479 -->
01:09:33.199And when you have little kids, one thing that I always do whenever I do family photo shoots and I do little kids is if they come in ready, I'm starting with them.
01:09:33.199 -->
01:09:39.920Yeah, because they're not gonna look like they're not even just look like once they are tired, yeah, they're done.
01:09:39.920 -->
01:09:43.039You're not gonna get any great photos when the kid is tired.
01:09:43.039 -->
01:09:48.399You can't cheer them up, they're hungry, whatever the case may be, if their toddlers are are below.
01:09:48.399 -->
01:09:50.319And especially if you're outside.
01:09:50.319 -->
01:09:51.279Oh, that's it.
01:09:51.279 -->
01:09:52.479Yeah, Florida, man.
01:09:52.479 -->
01:09:55.840Yeah, so you get that out of the way first.
01:09:55.840 -->
01:09:58.399And then um, then you start getting to the older ones.
01:09:58.399 -->
01:10:02.880Like, all right, y'all gotta stay and and then teenagers, you gotta cheer them up.
01:10:03.039 -->
01:10:04.800Yeah, well that'd be a hard job.
01:10:05.039 -->
01:10:09.760Oh, it's like that's who I like dealing with when I when teaching, I like the middle high school kids.
01:10:09.760 -->
01:10:12.560They are becoming different nowadays, though.
01:10:12.560 -->
01:10:13.520They are very different.
01:10:13.760 -->
01:10:17.039I mean, they're they're growing up with uh what do you call the scroll lifestyle, right?
01:10:17.039 -->
01:10:19.840Just being on the phone, yeah, their attitudes a little bit differently.
01:10:20.239 -->
01:10:23.359I mean, I'm not I I guess I'm getting into the older range.
01:10:23.359 -->
01:10:27.119I'm 39, about to be 40 this year, and they're just different.
01:10:27.119 -->
01:10:30.399They are from four years ago, they're different.
01:10:30.399 -->
01:10:32.560I'm like, who are you?
01:10:32.560 -->
01:10:33.199Wow.
01:10:33.439 -->
01:10:36.800What would you what uh so describe like what do you mean by that?
01:10:36.800 -->
01:10:38.000Like in what way?
01:10:38.000 -->
01:10:42.640Um is it just because they're growing up in this environment, you know?
01:10:42.880 -->
01:10:45.199Their attitudes are different and how they respond to people.
01:10:45.199 -->
01:10:47.039They're it's different.
01:10:47.039 -->
01:10:52.319And even when I I was when I went to high school, you know, we were a certain way.
01:10:52.319 -->
01:10:54.960Two years later I was substitute teaching.
01:10:54.960 -->
01:11:02.880And I couldn't recognize how they were acting two years out of high school.
01:11:02.880 -->
01:11:05.840Not because I was different, of course I was different.
01:11:05.840 -->
01:11:17.520I'm an adult now and I'm changing things, but and and of course, you know, vernacular's gonna change, things that they say is gonna change, but the way they acted towards adults changed in two years.
01:11:17.520 -->
01:11:28.159It's crazy, and even nowadays is different, you know, and depending on areas that you're in, uh the two-parent household, one-parent household, is the grandparents raising them.
01:11:28.159 -->
01:11:38.319Yeah, I mean, I could tell you some stories that I probably wouldn't say on camera from what I've experienced in that, and you'd be like, Really?
01:11:38.319 -->
01:11:40.960That happened, the mother and the grandma can't be able to do that.
01:11:40.960 -->
01:11:45.680What is it can get crazy, and then you have some kids that are just diamonds in the rough.
01:11:45.680 -->
01:11:50.399All you need to do is give them a little bit of encouragement, and they excel.
01:11:50.399 -->
01:11:58.319They go from almost failing out to almost straight A students, and all they just needed was a little bit of encouragement.
01:11:58.319 -->
01:12:03.920Yeah, but then it's those are getting further and fewer in between now.
01:12:03.920 -->
01:12:06.159It's crazy.
01:12:06.159 -->
01:12:13.199And I say, you know, you're the lovely family, you gotta keep those kids close and just make sure that you're monitoring them.
01:12:13.199 -->
01:12:14.880And hey, you know what?
01:12:14.880 -->
01:12:17.439So you get a certain age, I choose your friends.
01:12:19.199 -->
01:12:20.720Yeah, no, I totally get it.
01:12:20.720 -->
01:12:24.560And I don't know how much you know we'll be able to, we'll try because you're absolutely right.
01:12:24.560 -->
01:12:30.880You know, as a as a dad, I'm starting to realize that to be honest, I felt like I had full freedom as a kid.
01:12:30.880 -->
01:12:39.520And maybe I I'm looking at it more, you know, not pleasantly, because you know, I only have the happy memories or whatever, but I don't remember my parents restricting me much.
01:12:39.520 -->
01:12:47.039And I was one of those kids that I was just like, you know, like I said, I was just like happy watching Pokemon and crap, you know, as a kid.
01:12:47.039 -->
01:12:53.199So it's like, oh, let me play some on my PSP, play Pokemon, go out and maybe play with my friends, some soccer or whatever.
01:12:53.199 -->
01:12:53.840You know what I mean?
01:12:53.840 -->
01:12:58.880Like that was my growing up, so I was never into any of the crazy stuff now kids are into.
01:12:58.880 -->
01:13:02.720I think and yeah, I hear stories and I'm like, whoa, what are they doing?
01:13:02.720 -->
01:13:09.920Well, I think but to be honest, if I had a device in my pocket with the internet, who knows what I'd be able to do.
01:13:10.159 -->
01:13:16.079Yeah, there is that part of it too, but I think it's also just the way some people are raised, some kids are being raised.
01:13:16.079 -->
01:13:20.159Yeah, and the thing is where you're at most of the time is what rubs off on you.
01:13:20.159 -->
01:13:25.359Because you know, my daughter's five, and you know, and she doesn't say anything bad.
01:13:25.359 -->
01:13:33.840So it's not even bad, it's just she'll talk certain ways and use certain words that we don't use, not necessarily bad, just incorrect English.
01:13:33.920 -->
01:13:34.159Yeah.
01:13:34.560 -->
01:13:36.399We don't talk like that, but she's at school.
01:13:36.399 -->
01:13:38.319So she picks it up from the other kids.
01:13:38.319 -->
01:13:38.479Yeah.
01:13:38.479 -->
01:13:40.800And when they're little, they pick up that type of stuff.
01:13:40.800 -->
01:13:43.039When they get older, they pick up other things.
01:13:43.039 -->
01:13:46.880Because, you know, I monitor my son on the internet.
01:13:46.880 -->
01:13:48.720Excuse me.
01:13:48.720 -->
01:13:53.199And I monitor him, so I kind of know what he's doing and kind of do that.
01:13:53.199 -->
01:13:56.960And the kids that we hung out with, my our parents knew each other.
01:13:56.960 -->
01:14:02.079Sometimes it's like the the parents are crazy.
01:14:02.319 -->
01:14:02.640Yeah.
01:14:02.880 -->
01:14:03.520That's the problem.
01:14:03.520 -->
01:14:10.000And it's not even the kids, it's sometimes it's just like and then being in, and it kind of jade you a little bit being a teacher.
01:14:10.000 -->
01:14:21.359Um, even though I wasn't at a big school, we're a very small private school, and just seeing that there's parents I didn't meet, I had their kids for three, four years, never met the parent until they had a perceived problem.
01:14:21.359 -->
01:14:22.560Wow.
01:14:22.560 -->
01:14:25.600And then some of them parents I knew them the whole entire time.
01:14:25.600 -->
01:14:27.840And you know, it's just how it is.
01:14:27.840 -->
01:14:29.840So that's also why I like dealing with the older kids.
01:14:29.840 -->
01:14:31.039I could just talk to them real.
01:14:31.039 -->
01:14:31.279Yeah.
01:14:31.279 -->
01:14:33.039Versus trying to like, oh, you know, it's good.
01:14:33.039 -->
01:14:34.399No, we're gonna talk.
01:14:34.399 -->
01:14:34.880Yeah.
01:14:34.880 -->
01:14:37.439You know, do you want to be in this situation when you get older?
01:14:37.439 -->
01:14:38.000No.
01:14:38.000 -->
01:14:40.399You gotta change it.
01:14:40.640 -->
01:14:41.359Exactly.
01:14:41.359 -->
01:14:42.000Wow.
01:14:42.000 -->
01:14:42.960That's good to know.
01:14:42.960 -->
01:14:45.199You know, you have a different perspective in life than I do.
01:14:45.199 -->
01:14:45.600Yeah.
01:14:45.600 -->
01:14:54.479Because you know, obviously, I I I have my own perspective, but I help with like companies, you know, that want to make money, and so they want to just get it done, usually.
01:14:54.479 -->
01:14:57.760Because it's in their interest, they're paying me a lot of money to come help them.
01:14:57.760 -->
01:14:59.439It's very different for kids, you know.
01:14:59.439 -->
01:15:03.359Like you said, you have you are the you know, you could change their life.
01:15:03.359 -->
01:15:04.880It's so crazy as a teacher.
01:15:04.880 -->
01:15:16.720Because, you know, um, especially if if they are, like you said, where they have they with a little bit of motivation, they could go on the right path, especially those ones, you know, where you can actually make an immediate effort.
01:15:16.720 -->
01:15:21.199Um, because you know, it's it's the environment they're growing in, like I said.
01:15:21.199 -->
01:15:26.720Um thank goodness I didn't have a cell phone with an internet, is all I'm gonna say.
01:15:26.720 -->
01:15:31.680Because you know, now I'm an adult, you know, I have my other interests, but as a kid, you know, you can only think of the worst stuff.
01:15:31.680 -->
01:15:32.399Yeah.
01:15:32.399 -->
01:15:40.479So and then, like you said, if you're in an environment where other kids are doing it, even if it's not you that you know, they're gonna lean you towards all those things.
01:15:40.479 -->
01:15:44.079So yeah, so it's just an environment that you're in.
01:15:44.079 -->
01:15:47.039Um, but uh no, awesome.
01:15:47.039 -->
01:15:49.600And then uh what is your favorite thing?
01:15:49.600 -->
01:15:51.439Because we've talked about so many things that you do.
01:15:51.439 -->
01:15:56.880Like, what is it, like if you could choose one lane, what is it that you really want to do out of all this?
01:15:56.880 -->
01:15:58.720Or you could be doing more, you know.
01:15:58.960 -->
01:16:03.840As of right now, I'm still because I'm still growing in videography more.
01:16:03.840 -->
01:16:06.960Um, and I'm really liking that.
01:16:06.960 -->
01:16:12.159Um, so I can't really say I want to do one thing as of right now.
01:16:12.159 -->
01:16:14.399I'm still growing into kind of figuring out.
01:16:14.399 -->
01:16:17.600Um, of course, I think I'm still gonna do certain things on the side.
01:16:17.600 -->
01:16:23.199You know, hey, I'm I'm probably gonna do some family photography, especially working, um, going to church.
01:16:23.199 -->
01:16:25.600You have a lot of people that's people are always gonna approach you about that.
01:16:25.600 -->
01:16:27.279It's gonna be graduation time.
01:16:27.279 -->
01:16:31.600Graduation pictures and loving catch, like catching, catching that moment.
01:16:31.600 -->
01:16:37.359And now it's like when I see that kid that I'd never spoke to before, because they're you know, they're doing their thing.
01:16:37.359 -->
01:16:44.560Now it's like we have a connection, like, yeah, you you went here, and one girl she graduated, she made her prom dress, and I did her prom pictures.
01:16:44.560 -->
01:16:46.319I was like, I didn't know she made her prom dress.
01:16:46.319 -->
01:16:48.479I barely even knew how many kids you had.
01:16:48.479 -->
01:16:52.239Yeah, and you know, you get a chance to like get that connection with people.
01:16:52.239 -->
01:16:55.920Um, but I think I'll always do that.
01:16:55.920 -->
01:16:57.920I don't think that's gonna be my main focus.
01:16:57.920 -->
01:17:02.880I kind of want to work with small to medium-sized businesses and kind of help see that grow.
01:17:02.880 -->
01:17:07.920Yeah, not just see people grow, but see like their dream grow and capturing that.
01:17:08.159 -->
01:17:10.720Yeah, that's pretty good, you know, motivation to have.
01:17:10.720 -->
01:17:14.560And like I said, you're yourself doing great with a partner like Quentin.
01:17:14.560 -->
01:17:16.079I think that's incredible.
01:17:16.079 -->
01:17:19.520And uh, I think you're only going to you know find success.
01:17:19.520 -->
01:17:23.119Plus, this cool studio that you're building, it seems very versatile to me.
01:17:23.119 -->
01:17:30.960Like I said, whether you want to do podcasts, you want to do um like green screen shooting now, apparently, with Ultimate or photography, you know.
01:17:30.960 -->
01:17:34.000Yeah, I think it's a nice place that you guys have built together.
01:17:34.000 -->
01:17:35.600It has a lot of business potential.
01:17:35.600 -->
01:17:37.359You know, you guys gotta take my advice.
01:17:37.359 -->
01:17:40.000I told Quentin he's gotta do a networking event there.
01:17:40.000 -->
01:17:44.399That's the best way to like show people what you guys have been working on all these months.
01:17:44.640 -->
01:17:49.600And yeah, that's uh is and start starting right now.
01:17:49.600 -->
01:18:00.960Um, right now I'm getting all kind of just random photo shoots, which makes it hard to like have a clean open room because it's like, all right, I gotta do one today, and then not next week I have a day.
01:18:00.960 -->
01:18:06.640And yeah, it just has to, I think once we get back, we're going to lock in on that and make sure that we get that done.
01:18:06.640 -->
01:18:15.119It's just trying to, you know, when you try to in your mind, being uh, and I had to learn about this, you can't always be a perfectionist in everything.
01:18:15.279 -->
01:18:15.520Yeah.
01:18:15.680 -->
01:18:17.279Because you'll never get something done.
01:18:17.279 -->
01:18:21.680You have to get it, you have to have a standard, and it can't be perfect.
01:18:21.680 -->
01:18:22.239Yeah.
01:18:22.479 -->
01:18:27.359Yeah, you want to have a high standard, but you don't want to have a perfect standard because perfect standard does not exist.
01:18:27.359 -->
01:18:27.760Yeah.
01:18:27.760 -->
01:18:36.479So you don't want to be stuck essentially um uh you know reaching that perfection that you never reach, and then hence you never get anything done, right?
01:18:36.560 -->
01:18:40.720Yeah, so I think that's what kind of help held us back from doing the meeting meetup.
01:18:40.720 -->
01:18:44.319So I think we're kind of in a place where it's like, all right, it has to be good enough.
01:18:44.479 -->
01:18:44.640Yeah.
01:18:44.880 -->
01:18:52.159And that comes sometimes that comes with age, because I was that person that would fixate on something for hours and hours and hours and hours.
01:18:52.159 -->
01:18:53.119And I had to learn.
01:18:53.119 -->
01:18:53.600Yeah.
01:18:53.600 -->
01:19:04.319Well, you gotta, you know, and having kids also help with that because you know, you can't just be locked in a little room for for days at a time thinking about, oh, how does this connect to that, connect to this?
01:19:04.319 -->
01:19:09.439So now, so I you know, and he's younger, yeah, you know, I have about 10 years on him.
01:19:09.439 -->
01:19:11.600So I think that's some things that I'm like, hey.
01:19:11.840 -->
01:19:15.600So you're gonna lock him in the room and let him figure out where the connection goes there.
01:19:15.600 -->
01:19:18.560I mean, to be honest, he's the guy to figure that out.
01:19:18.560 -->
01:19:19.439Yes, yes.
01:19:19.439 -->
01:19:22.239Uh, I mean, but to be honest, you're already using the studio, right?
01:19:22.239 -->
01:19:29.199I know it's not like you haven't obviously announced it like um uh whatever, like officially like done a meetup or whatever.
01:19:29.199 -->
01:19:31.520Yes, but I'm saying it's not like you're not using the studio.
01:19:31.520 -->
01:19:36.239It's technically already, like I said, I came that day, you already had a session going on there, right?
01:19:36.239 -->
01:19:39.359Yeah, yeah, because he was busy, he wasn't even answering my phones.
01:19:39.359 -->
01:19:41.119I was like, wow, he's busy, all right.
01:19:41.119 -->
01:19:42.720So I had to drop his camera to you.
01:19:42.720 -->
01:19:44.960Yeah, he had some other stuff going on that day.
01:19:44.960 -->
01:19:46.079So that's what I'm saying.
01:19:46.079 -->
01:19:53.039You guys are already doing your thing, you're using and you were using the space, so yes, seems to be already like like said being used, right?
01:19:53.279 -->
01:19:56.239Yes, we have um we're getting a lot of positive feedback on it.
01:19:56.239 -->
01:20:00.319So, you know, we're trying to get people to give us negative feedback and say what can we fix?
01:20:00.319 -->
01:20:03.760But sometimes it's hard to get that um because people are just like in awe.
01:20:03.760 -->
01:20:09.520But you know, once things kind of die down, probably the next time you come back, like, oh yeah, this thing is what I was I did forgot about that.
01:20:09.520 -->
01:20:10.880Yeah, fix that right there.
01:20:10.880 -->
01:20:11.359Exactly.
01:20:11.359 -->
01:20:23.680But um, and you know, of course, getting respected opinions is always great to get, but now it's just it's time to once we get back, I think we're gonna be um working on some stuff while I'm in Africa, while we're in Africa.
01:20:23.680 -->
01:20:27.199So when we come back, it's like building up that with everybody else.
01:20:27.199 -->
01:20:36.239Because you know, dealing with professionals, you know, I think most of the people in our group do things outside, they go on location.
01:20:36.239 -->
01:20:40.479So now it's just now it's time to find those people that want to do things and don't have a place to do it.
01:20:40.640 -->
01:20:40.880Yeah.
01:20:40.880 -->
01:20:43.840You know, that they want to come into the studio because you're right.
01:20:43.840 -->
01:20:47.520Most of my clients, I'm going to them or going to some location.
01:20:47.520 -->
01:20:52.399But then you will get a client, at least for me, rare occasion, who's like, I don't have an office, I just work remote.
01:20:52.399 -->
01:20:52.720Yeah.
01:20:52.720 -->
01:20:56.079And that's where a studio can be awesome, too, you know, be like, okay, that's fine.
01:20:56.079 -->
01:20:59.119We have a place where we can make it look like you have an office, right?
01:20:59.119 -->
01:21:00.159Or something like that.
01:21:00.159 -->
01:21:05.359Um, so the it studio has its place, I don't uh especially like you said, doing photography or whatever.
01:21:05.359 -->
01:21:09.119A lot of people may not want, you know, my home's unorganized or whatever.
01:21:09.119 -->
01:21:12.079I want to do some family pictures, let us come to your studio or whatever.
01:21:12.079 -->
01:21:20.239So there's stuff like that, you know, where I feel like a studio has its place, plus making it versatile, where, like you said, you have multiple ways you can use it.
01:21:20.239 -->
01:21:21.920It doesn't have to be just one thing.
01:21:21.920 -->
01:21:27.039It's like, hey, here's a green screen option, here's a uh, you know, podcast option or whatever.
01:21:27.039 -->
01:21:27.840It's a neat idea.
01:21:27.840 -->
01:21:29.520Like I said, I'm really happy for you guys.
01:21:29.520 -->
01:21:33.199Like I said, I can't wait for it to grow, but also that's a really cool opportunity.
01:21:33.199 -->
01:21:34.319I'm so happy for Quentin.
01:21:34.319 -->
01:21:39.279He always gets to every year go to these awesome countries and get to film, and he gets to get paid for it.
01:21:39.279 -->
01:21:40.800I mean, that's really cool too.
01:21:41.359 -->
01:21:46.880Man, getting getting to go to Africa for the first time and getting paid for it is yeah, it feels great.
01:21:46.880 -->
01:21:48.079And do something I love.
01:21:48.239 -->
01:21:48.560Exactly.
01:21:48.560 -->
01:22:05.520I'm telling you, people, if you're interested in doing video production and uh, you know, uh you want to travel, or or rather get paid to travel and make awesome content, get involved with your house of worship or wherever you go, get involved in the video part of it, you know, put in the hours, get volunteer.
01:22:05.520 -->
01:22:08.640Not only are you helping increase your skill, you're getting better at it.
01:22:08.640 -->
01:22:21.039I think the other indirect advantage of it is you on these mission trips or wherever you go, uh you have the opportunity to now tag along, get paid, you know, create awesome content and travel for free.
01:22:21.039 -->
01:22:23.439There's multiple benefits of doing that, right?
01:22:23.439 -->
01:22:23.760Yeah.
01:22:24.000 -->
01:22:34.399And um another thing that we're doing at the studio, we're trying to, we're well, we're in talks with a community center of actually building out a program to actually help the youth get into this.
01:22:34.399 -->
01:22:35.359Look at that build.
01:22:35.520 -->
01:22:37.199Yeah, so you're gonna train the next generation.
01:22:37.439 -->
01:22:41.520That's what we're working on because and um one of our other good friends, Troy, talked about him earlier.
01:22:41.520 -->
01:22:42.880That's something that he wants to do as well.
01:22:42.880 -->
01:22:48.479He wants to start an organization teaching kids how to do live production because that is mainly what he does.
01:22:48.640 -->
01:22:49.199Yeah.
01:22:49.520 -->
01:22:54.560And just opening up the world because this is not going away.
01:22:54.560 -->
01:22:56.560It's not going away.
01:22:56.800 -->
01:23:00.560Yo, video is central to what human life now, essentially.
01:23:00.560 -->
01:23:06.159Yeah, and plus stuff like live, you know, and and video production in general and even sound.
01:23:06.159 -->
01:23:10.479There's so much to this that is so inherently important to learn.
01:23:10.479 -->
01:23:17.600And especially if, like you say again, go back to that, if they have the spark, the the interest, yes, uh, that could be a good place to go to bring that in.
01:23:17.600 -->
01:23:22.000And with your education background, you guys may be the perfect people to to do it.
01:23:22.079 -->
01:23:27.920Yeah, and that's another good reason to have a studio because we can't go and set up, oh, we're gonna have this for three hours a week.
01:23:27.920 -->
01:23:34.880We're gonna spend two hours setting up at this community center to and then three hours breaking down because we're tired after dealing with teenagers.
01:23:34.880 -->
01:23:35.680Yeah, exactly.
01:23:35.680 -->
01:23:36.479You don't want to listen.
01:23:36.479 -->
01:23:37.680That's another part of it.
01:23:37.680 -->
01:23:43.760So we want to, you know, work and give back and um train up the next generation to be able to do what we gotta do.
01:23:43.760 -->
01:23:50.479And um, yeah, once we got and get it started, we're gonna probably hopefully bring in people like you to talk to them and different people.
01:23:50.479 -->
01:23:59.760I have a good friend that does sound, has a um sound company, bring them in, and you know, this industry is very is very vast in what you can do.
01:23:59.760 -->
01:24:06.720Um you can literally some people spend their whole their whole career just on their phone doing it.
01:24:06.720 -->
01:24:11.840Some people do it on the other end where they have, you know, a lot of equipment.
01:24:11.840 -->
01:24:12.239Yeah.
01:24:12.239 -->
01:24:13.520A lot of equipment.
01:24:13.520 -->
01:24:24.800I wasn't gonna say a number, but I didn't I said no, we're this is gonna be public, so we're not, you know, he he his equipment is very it's quality, yeah, but it's not very expensive.
01:24:25.039 -->
01:24:28.319Yeah, we need to have uh, you know, people stop mentioning.
01:24:28.319 -->
01:24:33.279I feel like uh every person who comes here has mentioned at least each episode a little bit of the equipment.
01:24:33.279 -->
01:24:35.039Remember, I make a living doing this.
01:24:35.039 -->
01:24:39.520This isn't not to you, I'm just saying somebody listening will think, what is but this guy in equipment?
01:24:39.520 -->
01:24:43.600No, I'm actually a video professional and I make money doing videos.
01:24:43.600 -->
01:24:46.560This is just a fun thing, aside passion project.
01:24:46.560 -->
01:24:53.199So all this gear is actually used for work and making money, but yeah, and it took 15 years to acquire everything.
01:24:53.199 -->
01:24:55.039But yes, I do have a lot of equipment.
01:24:55.039 -->
01:25:06.880I haven't measured it, but it has to be like I said, years ago I did 2021, it was over half a million, so I'm sure in the last few years, some has been, you know, removed, but a lot has been added, so it's probably a lot more than that now.
01:25:07.119 -->
01:25:15.920And even be sitting here with you know, and and that sounds, of course, even saying those numbers to some people sounds like, man, I could never get up to that.
01:25:16.399 -->
01:25:19.439But remember, if you can, if you but it depends on if you even want to.
01:25:19.439 -->
01:25:21.199So that's been the point of this podcast.
01:25:21.199 -->
01:25:34.239I've brought people who are running a production company like that where those numbers are realistic, but then also DPs where like, hey, you can actually be a camera operator, and then that makes that's an unnecessary because you don't need any of this.
01:25:34.239 -->
01:25:41.119Kind of like, you know, you bring Quentin here, then he'll talk about all the equipment has, and then it's like, you're I can't get into it.
01:25:41.119 -->
01:25:51.199But then there's people, um, you know, like Alex recently was like, I'm doing he did an A V job and he made eight grand and he had to bring nothing, you know, and they were he was slow in to the event.
01:25:51.199 -->
01:25:51.920He did his thing.
01:25:51.920 -->
01:25:56.560Obviously, he's technically knowledgeable, but yeah, but I'm saying is in this industry there's so many avenues.
01:25:56.560 -->
01:26:00.319But anyway, with me, I've been trying to build a production company.
01:26:00.319 -->
01:26:01.920Yes, and I want it to be full.
01:26:01.920 -->
01:26:06.239And when a lot of people say we're a full, you know, production company, I want it to be legit.
01:26:06.239 -->
01:26:10.960So we have to have lighting, camera, sound, grip, electric, you know, everything.
01:26:10.960 -->
01:26:16.720And then when you start to slowly acquire that, eventually you end up with this and a van full of crap outside.
01:26:16.960 -->
01:26:23.920Because even even at my stage, you know, I I've been I'm just starting to get into the wanting to do it more professional.
01:26:23.920 -->
01:26:26.640And I have like probably $20,000 worth of equipment.
01:26:26.640 -->
01:26:28.479And I'm like, how?
01:26:28.960 -->
01:26:29.199Yeah.
01:26:29.199 -->
01:26:30.399I mean, slowly, right?
01:26:30.399 -->
01:26:31.199It's slowly.
01:26:31.199 -->
01:26:32.560You know, you don't think about it.
01:26:32.560 -->
01:26:34.159You could have camera here, lens here.
01:26:34.479 -->
01:26:39.199Yeah, you and then it's like, okay, and then you know, the great thing is when you know people, you get deals sometimes.
01:26:39.199 -->
01:26:43.920So, you know, I'm I'm quoting it at market rate, not what we actually paid for it.
01:26:43.920 -->
01:26:44.800But you know, you start.
01:26:45.039 -->
01:26:48.800But apparently tariffs will increase the value too, also value goes up that much.
01:26:49.840 -->
01:27:01.199So it's like once you start adding that up, it's like, oh, I okay, yeah, I bought this $500 light, I bought this $2,000 camera, I bought a $1,500 lens, I bought a this, that, and that, you know, it adds up.
01:27:01.199 -->
01:27:11.920So even at my scale where I'm just like literally like I could probably fit most of my stuff in a large vehicle, it's still worth more than the vehicle.
01:27:11.920 -->
01:27:13.279And it's like, how did that happen?
01:27:13.520 -->
01:27:15.760Yeah, and that's the nature of what we do, right?
01:27:15.760 -->
01:27:21.840I think anyone, I'm like, equipments are important, but slowly as you do this more and more and more, you end up with tools that you need.
01:27:21.840 -->
01:27:25.119And yeah, it ends up costing more than the vehicle you're carrying it in.
01:27:25.439 -->
01:27:32.560And I I'll say this too, just for anybody that's watching out there, everybody feels like selling all their stuff sometimes and quitting.
01:27:32.560 -->
01:27:33.439Trust me.
01:27:33.760 -->
01:27:35.520Yeah, it's normal to have those feelings.
01:27:35.520 -->
01:27:37.359But it's important not to quit.
01:27:37.920 -->
01:27:38.800Yeah, don't quit.
01:27:38.800 -->
01:27:40.720Keep going, keep going, keep going.
01:27:40.720 -->
01:27:49.359But trust me, you know, especially at the stage that I'm at, you're like, I'm sitting here, you know, this I have the summer off from school.
01:27:49.359 -->
01:27:53.119I'm trying to come back, but at a lesser capacity.
01:27:53.119 -->
01:27:55.279How am I gonna do this?
01:27:55.279 -->
01:27:56.560I got this amount.
01:27:56.560 -->
01:27:59.439I'm like, man, I could just sell all this equipment and pay off my car.
01:27:59.439 -->
01:28:00.960Yeah, exactly.
01:28:00.960 -->
01:28:08.239You know, it's like, you know, you could sell off all your equipment and pay off your house and you know have no debt and like all right, get a corporate job.
01:28:08.319 -->
01:28:09.520Yeah, done.
01:28:09.520 -->
01:28:10.800Yeah, life is settled.
01:28:10.800 -->
01:28:19.680And I think that's what what it is, you know, like you say, you see you've said well said there, because there's so many days, you know, where you know, things are not going right.
01:28:19.680 -->
01:28:36.960You know, I can sit here and talk about yeah, how we closed that awesome deal and how we built made that awesome video, but then there are days uh where you know you send a proposal out, it gets rejected, and you do a call and it gets rejected, and you know, you I don't know, uh a couple emails come in that don't work the way you want to.
01:28:36.960 -->
01:28:44.479I'm saying there is one of those days, or you have a pile of some tasks that you need to do that you don't want to do that are not the fun type with playing with a camera.
01:28:44.479 -->
01:28:46.640And those are the days where you go, why am I doing this?
01:28:46.640 -->
01:28:48.319Right, where you start to question everything.
01:28:48.319 -->
01:28:56.399I think those are the most important days, even more than all the fun days, where you have to remember the fun days and go, that's why I do this.
01:28:56.399 -->
01:28:57.680Because those days will come.
01:28:57.680 -->
01:29:04.159It may not be today, I just need to get past it and and not quit, and like you said, sell off all the equipment, you know.
01:29:04.319 -->
01:29:10.239So even with you know, I've been with my wife um almost 20 years.
01:29:10.239 -->
01:29:13.359We've been married for 15, together for 20.
01:29:13.359 -->
01:29:15.039So that's a long time.
01:29:15.039 -->
01:29:20.640Yeah, this will be the first time that we've been apart this long ever.
01:29:20.640 -->
01:29:21.680Wow.
01:29:21.680 -->
01:29:28.720So even in the back of my mind, I'm still thinking, man, this is going to be a really weird experience.
01:29:28.880 -->
01:29:32.319Yeah, because you're gonna be away from your family, your kids, your wife, yeah, everybody.
01:29:32.560 -->
01:29:38.479Yep, and not knowing how well the communication is gonna be, because you know, we might be able to con talk every day, or we might not.
01:29:38.479 -->
01:29:40.399Yeah, depending on where I'm at.
01:29:40.399 -->
01:29:42.960I think we probably will, looking at where we're gonna be.
01:29:42.960 -->
01:29:53.680But it's still like, you know, I'm not thinking our relationship's gonna go awry or anything, but it's like, you know, you talk to somebody every day of your life for for 20 years straight.
01:29:53.680 -->
01:29:55.920You, you know, you you're well, it depends.
01:29:56.000 -->
01:29:57.199How does she feel about you leaving?
01:29:57.279 -->
01:30:00.800That though she's you know, you know, she's she's like very excited.
01:30:00.880 -->
01:30:03.439She's like, go, she's like, no, you're not.
01:30:03.600 -->
01:30:24.399Well, she's excited for me because of the experience that I'm gonna have, but also I know she's like, man, I'm gonna have these kids all day, 24-7, have to take him to practice, still have to work, yeah, and you know, deal with her daughter, you know, even you know, my schedule's still kind of crazy now, but it's like, hey, okay, at least a day of the week I'm not working generally speaking.
01:30:24.399 -->
01:30:30.000Yeah, I have a day off, or I'll be able to take the kids, or just hey, get away from your mom, come let's have ice cream or something.
01:30:30.000 -->
01:30:32.319I don't know, whatever, or cook a meal or something.
01:30:32.319 -->
01:30:34.239Now it's gonna be her.
01:30:34.479 -->
01:30:36.399Yeah, two and a half weeks at least, right?
01:30:36.640 -->
01:30:37.039Yes.
01:30:37.039 -->
01:30:50.560And I mean, we've had it where I've gone away for about a week-ish, about a week, or when when they went to Tennessee, my wife took my son to Tennessee, so it was just her and him, but he was at the camp, so she was by herself.
01:30:50.560 -->
01:30:56.640So there is that, but it's like 17 days not seeing them for the first time.
01:30:56.640 -->
01:31:01.359It's a very exciting experience, but it's also like, man, what am I gonna do?
01:31:01.520 -->
01:31:04.399Yeah, you'll you'll figure out.
01:31:04.399 -->
01:31:08.800I mean, you'll know immediately how you feel as you get on that plane.
01:31:08.800 -->
01:31:11.920But I mean, what you are going on is incredible in nature, too.
01:31:11.920 -->
01:31:14.319You know, it's kind of like the pros and cons of everything.
01:31:14.319 -->
01:31:18.159So, and like I say, you're going with somebody, you know, nice who's been there already.
01:31:18.159 -->
01:31:21.359Quentin will make you try all the pizzas in Africa.
01:31:21.359 -->
01:31:27.279It's so funny that guy all of it in Africa only to eat pizza.
01:31:27.359 -->
01:31:28.800So I I understand.
01:31:28.800 -->
01:31:30.720I mean, I understand what he's saying.
01:31:30.720 -->
01:31:33.680You know, we've had talks about it, and it's like you're going there to work.
01:31:33.680 -->
01:31:38.239So I so my uncle used to um run McDonald's in the Caribbean, right?
01:31:38.239 -->
01:31:38.560Okay.
01:31:38.560 -->
01:31:40.479So when I was younger, I went to go visit him.
01:31:40.479 -->
01:31:45.600Um, me and my sister, and he stayed in Puerto Rico, and we went to St.
01:31:45.600 -->
01:31:46.319Martin.
01:31:46.319 -->
01:31:48.479I was sick the whole entire time.
01:31:48.479 -->
01:31:53.439There was the McDonald's street, other stuff, beach.
01:31:53.439 -->
01:31:55.279Didn't go to the beach one day.
01:31:55.279 -->
01:31:57.920The whole time.
01:31:57.920 -->
01:31:59.760I I I don't know what it was.
01:31:59.760 -->
01:32:00.000Yeah.
01:32:00.000 -->
01:32:04.720So you don't want to go on, you know, that was me wasting my parents' money and his money.
01:32:04.720 -->
01:32:07.520But imagine going somewhere to work and you're sick the whole time.
01:32:07.520 -->
01:32:10.319So it's like, yeah, I kind of want to keep it a little bit safe.
01:32:10.319 -->
01:32:13.199So I understand where it's like, just try pizza.
01:32:13.199 -->
01:32:21.119I might try a dish or two, but I don't want to go over there and just, you know, not to be graphic, but be on the toilet the whole time.
01:32:22.399 -->
01:32:23.760I mean, it can't be that bad.
01:32:23.760 -->
01:32:24.319I mean, I get it.
01:32:24.319 -->
01:32:24.960You have to be careful.
01:32:25.359 -->
01:32:31.199Yeah, so I'm I want to be a little, I'm gonna be a little bit more adventurous, but you know, I understand this, you know, just not just going crazy.
01:32:31.359 -->
01:32:32.000Yeah, exactly.
01:32:32.000 -->
01:32:33.199No, I I totally get it.
01:32:33.199 -->
01:32:37.840You are going there to work, technically, you're not going there, even though it's kind of like a vacation.
01:32:37.840 -->
01:32:38.479But it's still working.
01:32:38.479 -->
01:32:38.880It's gonna be fun.
01:32:38.880 -->
01:32:39.199You know, yeah.
01:32:39.199 -->
01:32:39.760It's gonna be fun.
01:32:39.760 -->
01:32:40.479I'm so excited.
01:32:40.479 -->
01:32:42.960All right, before we go, we're on the tail end of this thing.
01:32:42.960 -->
01:32:44.800Uh, anything you want to talk about?
01:32:44.800 -->
01:32:46.640Uh anything I haven't mentioned?
01:32:46.640 -->
01:32:47.520Any stories?
01:32:47.760 -->
01:32:50.960So I okay, I guess I will ask you this question.
01:32:50.960 -->
01:33:07.119So I'm in a space right now where I'm starting to go into the professional realm of what I'm doing, and sometimes people have, and I'm pretty sure other people are going through this too, how to get out of being what everybody sees you as the cheap person.
01:33:07.119 -->
01:33:09.840Because they're like, oh, you're not professional.
01:33:09.840 -->
01:33:17.199You're doing it, even though they see you doing that, and sometimes, you know, going like going to the game is one of those things that kind of helps validate you.
01:33:17.199 -->
01:33:22.319And honestly, you don't need to be the greatest person to capture certain things.
01:33:22.319 -->
01:33:22.560Yeah.
01:33:22.560 -->
01:33:26.079But hey, I've been with this person, I went to here, I've been to there.
01:33:26.079 -->
01:33:34.239And that kind of tries you try to help have people val that validate you, but how do you get past that point of being the cheap guy?
01:33:34.239 -->
01:33:39.760Not even necessarily cheap, but like the from the professional side.
01:33:39.760 -->
01:33:40.319Okay.
01:33:41.279 -->
01:33:43.119And again, my advice, my opinion.
01:33:43.119 -->
01:33:43.680Yeah.
01:33:43.680 -->
01:33:49.039Try the only way to be cheap, not the cheap guy is to not be the cheap guy.
01:33:49.039 -->
01:33:54.560I know it sounds silly, but like when somebody asks you a price, you should say the price that you want it to be.
01:33:54.560 -->
01:33:56.720The answer will be no, and that's okay.
01:33:56.720 -->
01:33:58.239I hope that makes sense.
01:33:58.239 -->
01:33:59.600It's it's one of those things.
01:33:59.600 -->
01:34:01.520You have an advantage.
01:34:01.520 -->
01:34:02.960Now, a lot of people can't do this.
01:34:02.960 -->
01:34:07.760Let's say you are already making a living as a photographer, videographer, that's your all thing.
01:34:07.760 -->
01:34:13.119So you cannot have hundred percent no's you got bills to pay, and that's how people have a hard time moving.
01:34:13.119 -->
01:34:23.520But if you have a nine to five, you have a school that somebody's paying your bills, it may not obviously you want supplement, you have invested money in the gear, but I'm saying the the truth is you have to just say no.
01:34:23.520 -->
01:34:24.880And now it's different.
01:34:24.880 -->
01:34:28.720Uh, I'm not saying say no to a friend, like if Quincy's like, come help me, that's a different thing.
01:34:28.720 -->
01:34:35.359But I'm saying to your end clients, you should work at the rate you want to, where you think it's fair for you.
01:34:35.359 -->
01:34:51.680As in, like, you should ask around to other photographers, you should ask around to you know whoever you know you think is at what you're doing at the level of work that you're doing, and then you should see what they're charging, and then you should come up with a rate that also you're happy, you're like where you are excited to make their photos, right?
01:34:51.680 -->
01:34:53.039And then you should just charge that.
01:34:53.039 -->
01:34:53.760Simple as that.
01:34:53.760 -->
01:34:58.399The answer will be no and no and no until it's a yes, and then it'll be a yes.
01:34:58.399 -->
01:35:06.479And those people will refer you to more people who can say yes, because uh the way most of the time you get clients, obviously, you can do ads and stuff, that's a different thing.
01:35:06.479 -->
01:35:10.000But I'm saying the family that paid you the price that you wanted them to pay.
01:35:10.000 -->
01:35:13.600Let's say you're like, I charge $500 for a shoot, now I'm gonna charge $1,000, right?
01:35:13.600 -->
01:35:17.680So the family that paid you a thousand most likely knows other families that can pay a thousand, right?
01:35:17.680 -->
01:35:19.680So they'll refer you if they love their photos, right?
01:35:19.680 -->
01:35:22.960You do the because now you're happy, you're gonna do an incredible job.
01:35:22.960 -->
01:35:27.039Maybe throw a couple extra photos in it, do a good thing, and maybe edit them better.
01:35:27.039 -->
01:35:27.520I don't know.
01:35:27.520 -->
01:35:34.159I'm just saying, because if you get paid, the the idea isn't the money, the idea is you wanna do your best.
01:35:34.159 -->
01:35:38.399Yes, and when you do their best, they see it and then they recommend you to someone else, right?
01:35:38.399 -->
01:35:39.520That's the the formula.
01:35:39.520 -->
01:35:51.760Yeah, so if you do your best, you go above and beyond, like you promised them something, you do more than that, you have a good time because you got paid what you wanted to get paid, they love the photos, now they go tell their you know friends.
01:35:51.760 -->
01:35:54.640I'm saying they'll come back and now they'll ask them how much did you pay?
01:35:54.640 -->
01:35:56.000You pay a thousand, right?
01:35:56.000 -->
01:35:58.239And then now they already know what the price is.
01:35:58.239 -->
01:35:59.520Yeah, I hope that makes sense.
01:35:59.520 -->
01:36:03.359There's no way to go to a client that paid you $500, and and there's a chance.
01:36:03.359 -->
01:36:04.560I know some people have done it.
01:36:04.560 -->
01:36:08.079They made a $200 client, and then next thing they charge them a thousand bucks.
01:36:08.079 -->
01:36:09.920Usually, though, that's not gonna happen.
01:36:09.920 -->
01:36:10.720Yeah, right?
01:36:10.720 -->
01:36:15.119They'll find somebody else and be like, Oh, yeah, I can't afford that because that's what they're expecting now.
01:36:15.119 -->
01:36:17.119So usually you don't move clients.
01:36:17.119 -->
01:36:20.720My thing is you have to find a new clientele, that's just what it is.
01:36:20.720 -->
01:36:25.760And uh you should set your rate and you should find people and who are willing to pay that rate.
01:36:25.760 -->
01:36:29.520Now, it may be difficult in the beginning, which is why you want to have a 95 until then.
01:36:29.520 -->
01:36:33.119And then when you do, then like you said, you do your best.
01:36:33.119 -->
01:36:38.000Don't cut corners, don't and then you know, like I said, they'll refer, and then it's like a web, right?
01:36:38.000 -->
01:36:42.319The more you do, the longer you do this, the bigger the web gets, and then that's your rate.
01:36:42.319 -->
01:36:46.880But then you always have this struggle in life because then they're like, now I need to up my rate again.
01:36:46.880 -->
01:36:48.720Yeah, then you start again.
01:36:48.720 -->
01:36:50.159It it is a thing, though.
01:36:50.159 -->
01:36:51.680Then good luck getting these people.
01:36:51.680 -->
01:36:57.600There's a high chance some may come back for a little higher rate, but usually the that tier is that tier.
01:36:57.600 -->
01:36:59.359Then you start again, right?
01:36:59.359 -->
01:37:01.039Then you have to go start all that again.
01:37:01.039 -->
01:37:04.159So usually it's like pick a rate that you're happy at that you want to make.
01:37:04.159 -->
01:37:05.359That's also reasonable.
01:37:05.359 -->
01:37:09.039Yeah if you never get a yes, then you are the problem, you know.
01:37:09.039 -->
01:37:13.119But it's okay, like in the big thousand dollars for exactly one headshot.
01:37:13.439 -->
01:37:14.720Well, I'm not Peter Peter Hurley, yeah.
01:37:14.720 -->
01:37:15.680I don't know if you ever heard of him.
01:37:16.000 -->
01:37:16.960I've heard the name, yeah.
01:37:17.279 -->
01:37:18.880That guy charges like a couple grand.
01:37:19.199 -->
01:37:19.520Yeah.
01:37:19.520 -->
01:37:21.439So I mean, yeah.
01:37:21.439 -->
01:37:23.199If if you can, and you have the club.
01:37:23.199 -->
01:37:25.600See, the thing is, it's also a skill thing.
01:37:25.600 -->
01:37:29.359What I'm saying is like I don't know.
01:37:29.359 -->
01:37:35.039And you know, you as you progress, you start taking photos, you know, they're good, but they're not there.
01:37:35.039 -->
01:37:43.279Then the next level, then the tier above, and they're the tier above, and then there's that guy, and you know, there's all levels, and then you should charge at your level.
01:37:43.279 -->
01:37:46.800My thing is if everyone's saying yes to you, your rates are too low.
01:37:46.800 -->
01:37:49.840Yeah, if everyone's saying no to you, rates are high.
01:37:49.840 -->
01:37:51.520But sometimes that's rare.
01:37:51.520 -->
01:37:54.000That's what we were talking about, is switching clientele.
01:37:54.000 -->
01:37:57.359So usually I'm saying that's the easiest way to adjust, right?
01:37:57.359 -->
01:38:00.079But usually you are stuck in a clientele.
01:38:00.079 -->
01:38:08.159Let's say you're a student, you come out, you charge 100 bucks to make a music video, shooting, editing, providing equipment, everything, right?
01:38:08.159 -->
01:38:09.359Sounds good as a student.
01:38:09.359 -->
01:38:11.359You're like, yeah, I can make one in a few hours.
01:38:11.359 -->
01:38:14.079It's just, you know, obviously the tier of music is low.
01:38:14.079 -->
01:38:17.600Then you go to 200, you go to 300, you go to 400, and you're like, I'm good.
01:38:17.600 -->
01:38:20.399And now you're like, I'm stuck at $500 music videos.
01:38:20.399 -->
01:38:21.039Because guess what?
01:38:21.039 -->
01:38:23.760After that, the the level jump is huge, right?
01:38:23.760 -->
01:38:28.399You can't make that usually, but I'm saying with a phone and a computer, like you can.
01:38:28.399 -->
01:38:31.279And then that takes an effort, and that's usually it is.
01:38:31.279 -->
01:38:35.680You have to find out, and if you don't know, also I want to say that because people are like, I don't know.
01:38:35.680 -->
01:38:37.359That's when you go find somebody else.
01:38:37.359 -->
01:38:44.640Then you find somebody else who is charging that kind of money, and you say, Hey, let me come hang out with you on a shoot or something.
01:38:44.640 -->
01:38:52.880See what they do for that kind of money because it's not just charging certain money, exactly, and then I'm saying then you know, okay, you're like, Oh, sure, I I'll replicate that, right?
01:38:52.880 -->
01:38:58.319I'll give that level of quality, I'll bring that level of equipment, and now you can start charging that.
01:38:58.319 -->
01:39:00.800And it may take a while to start building new clientele.
01:39:00.800 -->
01:39:02.159Yeah, I hope that answers the question.
01:39:02.159 -->
01:39:11.279The point is, you yeah, if you are in that low tier pricing, I'm saying you have to just sometimes just completely start from scratch with completely new tier of clientele.
01:39:11.279 -->
01:39:12.399Yeah, which is tough.
01:39:13.039 -->
01:39:20.479Yeah, I was starting so one thing that I don't shoot a lot of because I don't want to, is weddings.
01:39:20.479 -->
01:39:20.960Yeah.
01:39:20.960 -->
01:39:25.199Every time I do a wedding, I say, I need to charge more.
01:39:25.199 -->
01:39:26.159Yeah.
01:39:26.159 -->
01:39:32.000And I think I heard you talk about that with somebody on one of the other podcasts about the weddings.
01:39:32.000 -->
01:39:34.000It's hard work.
01:39:34.560 -->
01:39:36.720And remember, it's also it's different.
01:39:36.720 -->
01:39:44.159See, when a family comes to you, you have the ability to make them laugh, smile, get to know them, make them comfortable.
01:39:44.159 -->
01:39:48.079And and again, I'm not saying that each one is better, it's just different art form.
01:39:48.079 -->
01:39:57.199Uh, versus a vetting, uh, you know, you can't, I mean, sometimes you can stage them, I'm saying, but usually you can't control the situation a lot, right?
01:39:57.199 -->
01:39:59.520So you have to roll with the punches, unless you're just in point.
01:39:59.520 -->
01:40:00.399Yeah, there you go.
01:40:00.399 -->
01:40:03.840Then you can maybe you can be like, it's gonna be on YouTube.
01:40:03.840 -->
01:40:09.359Anyway, but you know, the point I'm trying to make is you're rolling with the punches, yeah.
01:40:09.359 -->
01:40:11.840And you know, and that's why it's a different art form.
01:40:11.840 -->
01:40:19.760You have to just obviously figure out how to give the most, and it's it may not be for for you, and obviously, and that's okay, and that's why people like weddings are not for me.
01:40:19.760 -->
01:40:22.239I can go make corporate videos all day every day.
01:40:22.399 -->
01:40:25.920And I will tell you, Indian weddings are uh amazing, yeah.
01:40:25.920 -->
01:40:27.199They are amazing.
01:40:27.199 -->
01:40:30.800I mean, if you like them, then they're like the end product.
01:40:30.800 -->
01:40:36.159Yeah, I'm saying the end product is I can make when they go all out and they have like the week long, and I'm like, man.
01:40:36.640 -->
01:40:39.760No, I mean they're amazing for people who love, like I said, people that love doing them.
01:40:39.760 -->
01:40:45.199Yeah, I grew up, you know, obviously watching enough weddings or going to enough weddings, and it was like it's awesome on one way, you know.
01:40:45.199 -->
01:40:48.079Like I said, as a kid, I loved all the snacks and food you could eat.
01:40:48.079 -->
01:40:52.159I'm like, you know, sky's the limit because it's usually buffet style or whatever.
01:40:52.159 -->
01:40:54.319But you know, there's the other side of it.
01:40:54.319 -->
01:40:56.479As an adult, I was like, do I ever want this party?
01:40:56.479 -->
01:40:57.680No, but some people love it.
01:40:57.680 -->
01:41:07.359Like I said, it's a whole thing, you know, usually five days, you know, and then there's so many ceremonies, there's so many people, but it's like it's on the on it on it uh like attending.
01:41:07.359 -->
01:41:08.560I I'm not a big fan.
01:41:08.560 -->
01:41:14.399I mean, there are parties if you really like enjoying parties, but as a photographer, videographer, there are a lot of money.
01:41:14.399 -->
01:41:20.079You can charge a lot of money because there's a lot of days, there's a lot of work, but it's a lot, it's a lot of work, yeah.
01:41:20.079 -->
01:41:21.119It is a lot, yeah.
01:41:21.119 -->
01:41:22.159Yeah, yeah.
01:41:22.159 -->
01:41:26.000And and now some people I know will condense it, do it for a couple of days or whatever.
01:41:26.000 -->
01:41:29.199But it's still, I'm saying you are you do have the ability to charge a lot.
01:41:29.199 -->
01:41:34.880Now, obviously, not all Indians will pay high price again, because they can be cheap, but they can also be very spendy.
01:41:34.880 -->
01:41:36.800This is so funny thing about Indians.
01:41:36.800 -->
01:41:41.920At one point, they're like so cheap, but then on weddings they just blow money like nothing, so you never know.
01:41:41.920 -->
01:41:44.079Uh, but no, it's a good avenue.
01:41:44.079 -->
01:41:50.960If you like, again, if you like doing wedding video photo, there's a lot of money in it, especially like you said, Indian weddings or just even a regular American.
01:41:51.279 -->
01:41:52.399Yeah, but they're just they're just amazing.
01:41:52.399 -->
01:41:53.840I just yeah, I just like looking at them.
01:41:53.920 -->
01:41:57.199Yeah, I mean, hey, if you enjoy it, then you should take more of those for photos, no?
01:41:57.760 -->
01:41:58.079I don't know.
01:41:58.079 -->
01:41:58.720You don't want to do it?
01:41:58.720 -->
01:41:59.520Like on the outside.
01:41:59.520 -->
01:42:01.680I'm saying as a as a person watching it.
01:42:01.920 -->
01:42:02.239Okay.
01:42:02.239 -->
01:42:04.000Yes, that was great.
01:42:04.399 -->
01:42:07.119But the person doing it, I'm like, man, like Yeah.
01:42:07.199 -->
01:42:08.079No, I don't do weddings.
01:42:08.479 -->
01:42:11.68012 hour day for a week and then have to edit that.
01:42:12.560 -->
01:42:17.039Golly, I gotta Yeah, and then you have to understand what to edit where because you know certainly ceremony.
01:42:17.039 -->
01:42:18.079Yeah, exactly.
01:42:18.079 -->
01:42:22.560I'm like, uh for me, like I said, I stay away from weddings, photo video.
01:42:22.560 -->
01:42:23.039Yeah.
01:42:23.039 -->
01:42:29.920Um, but I I have brought enough people on here who do that because I want people to know that's a very good avenue to make a good living.
01:42:29.920 -->
01:42:30.399It is.
01:42:30.399 -->
01:42:33.359I don't think you should say no to that because even I had dogs.
01:42:33.359 -->
01:42:34.239Try it out.
01:42:34.239 -->
01:42:38.079Even he was like, he does weddings, because try I would say try it out.
01:42:38.239 -->
01:42:39.840Because it's like it, yeah.
01:42:39.840 -->
01:42:45.119Um is if if you have the opportunity to try a wedding out, try it as a second shooter first.
01:42:45.600 -->
01:42:47.359Or don't ruin somebody's wedding.
01:42:47.359 -->
01:42:48.000Yeah, yeah.
01:42:48.159 -->
01:42:48.720Do that.
01:42:48.720 -->
01:42:52.560Um, because I would tell you the lower price weddings, they want you to do more.
01:42:52.560 -->
01:43:02.640My only I think I've had one and a half two people that were kind of not uh, and that'll be the next question I guess I ask you, that weren't fully satisfied.
01:43:02.640 -->
01:43:10.479One was they wanted to pay barely anything for a full-day wedding, photography and videography.
01:43:10.479 -->
01:43:17.119And I just pulled on my wife just to move the first the main camera, just to you know, but it's just me.
01:43:17.119 -->
01:43:19.920Okay, so I'm not gonna be able to capture everything.
01:43:20.079 -->
01:43:20.399Yeah.
01:43:20.800 -->
01:43:30.880And then even their pastor, they try to complain to their pastor, because I know him, and he was like, You you wanted something where you need like three people to do it, and you have one person doing it.
01:43:30.880 -->
01:43:32.720He's not gonna be able to capture everything.
01:43:32.720 -->
01:43:34.000You want a picture of the kiss?
01:43:34.000 -->
01:43:36.239I can't do video of the kiss.
01:43:36.239 -->
01:43:36.800Yeah.
01:43:36.960 -->
01:43:39.600So and then Oh, you were doing both photo and video.
01:43:39.600 -->
01:43:42.159Oh yeah, so why'd you say yes?
01:43:42.880 -->
01:43:44.000That was I was starting out.
01:43:44.000 -->
01:43:44.640Okay, yeah.
01:43:44.720 -->
01:43:46.399See that that's fair then.
01:43:46.399 -->
01:43:49.600Uh, because um And there's a way, there is a way to do it.
01:43:49.760 -->
01:43:50.960There is a way to do it.
01:43:51.760 -->
01:43:53.199I will disagree, but sure.
01:43:53.600 -->
01:43:54.720It's not going to be great.
01:43:54.720 -->
01:43:55.039Yeah.
01:43:55.119 -->
01:43:55.760Well, that's what I'm saying.
01:43:56.319 -->
01:44:02.960It's not gonna be great, but if it's just like, hey, I just want to have it, you know, just hey, you know, some people might just put up a phone in the background.
01:44:02.960 -->
01:44:10.640So you're doing that better, and then maybe you're not taking pictures of the ceremony, you're taking pictures of the in-between.
01:44:10.640 -->
01:44:15.760So there's like stuff like that, yeah, but you're never gonna really capture the wedding fully with one person.
01:44:16.000 -->
01:44:21.760Yeah, and and my thing is it takes usually a couple of people to do in video video by itself, yeah.
01:44:21.760 -->
01:44:26.000It takes four people to do all to actually capture a wedding, you need at least four people.
01:44:26.000 -->
01:44:27.840Two pictures, two video.
01:44:27.840 -->
01:44:28.399There you go.
01:44:28.399 -->
01:44:29.520So that's what I'm saying.
01:44:29.520 -->
01:44:33.760If you make it one person, you're just it's just not gonna possibly do it correctly.
01:44:33.760 -->
01:44:37.680I'm sure there's some genius watching this who's like, let me show you.
01:44:37.680 -->
01:44:39.920And then they're an exception, I'm saying.
01:44:39.920 -->
01:44:41.680But usually, and that's okay.
01:44:41.680 -->
01:44:45.840When you're starting out, you do and tend to take I think deals like that.
01:44:45.840 -->
01:44:47.840And that's that's what the point of this is.
01:44:47.840 -->
01:44:53.199Please don't take those deals because you're like, there's better options out there, but you almost might as well do it for free.
01:44:53.199 -->
01:44:59.119But then the thing, the problem is I would never say, I would say if somebody tells you to do both photo and video, don't say yes.
01:44:59.119 -->
01:45:00.399Uh, even if it's free.
01:45:00.399 -->
01:45:00.880I don't care.
01:45:00.880 -->
01:45:03.039Yeah, I think you would you should pick.
01:45:03.039 -->
01:45:06.399You would tell them that hey, I can do one or the other.
01:45:06.399 -->
01:45:07.600Which one do you want me to do?
01:45:07.600 -->
01:45:09.760Or choose or tell them which one you can do, whichever you prefer.
01:45:10.000 -->
01:45:14.640And if you don't take this advice, the first time you do it, you won't do it again.
01:45:14.800 -->
01:45:15.439Yeah.
01:45:15.439 -->
01:45:18.640Well, they were just not happy because obviously it's not your problem.
01:45:18.960 -->
01:45:29.840They were they were they and the other thing about weddings is the you gotta find out what they want and audio is probably probably the biggest thing with weddings.
01:45:29.840 -->
01:45:31.920How to capture good audio.
01:45:31.920 -->
01:45:39.520You gotta mic the groom and you gotta mic the official and if you're one person doing video, you're not gonna get it.
01:45:39.520 -->
01:45:41.199So you gotta set expectation.
01:45:41.199 -->
01:45:44.800Hey, you want one person to do video, recap video.
01:45:44.800 -->
01:45:45.279Yeah.
01:45:45.600 -->
01:45:51.680I think uh the thing from there to learn, and and I'm sure you already have, like you said, you obviously you come a long way from that.
01:45:51.680 -->
01:46:00.399It's just that like clients A don't understand what we do, yeah, or can be cheap, or you know, make unreasonable requests sometimes.
01:46:00.399 -->
01:46:02.960You know, we don't believe, I don't believe in the world.
01:46:02.960 -->
01:46:09.920I believe highly in client uh uh experience, taking care of them, giving them an amazing experience.
01:46:09.920 -->
01:46:14.239But that's not the same thing as saying yes to unreasonable requests, yeah.
01:46:14.239 -->
01:46:15.600Those are two different things.
01:46:15.600 -->
01:46:18.000So clients will always come and they'll say things like that.
01:46:18.000 -->
01:46:21.119Like I said, the answer you, and like I said, I get it.
01:46:21.119 -->
01:46:25.520When you're new, you're starting out, especially if they're offering money, you just want to say yes to everything.
01:46:25.520 -->
01:46:26.960But personally, that's what I would do.
01:46:26.960 -->
01:46:28.319It's like it's it's impossible.
01:46:28.319 -->
01:46:30.399Like genuinely, like it's not being rude.
01:46:30.399 -->
01:46:35.199It's like, hey, yeah, it's impossible for one person to capture a wedding, photo or video.
01:46:35.199 -->
01:46:36.640Here's what I can do for you.
01:46:36.640 -->
01:46:40.640I can do video, here's my pricing, which can be now low if you're new.
01:46:40.640 -->
01:46:43.680That's okay to me, in my opinion, or even free if it's your first wedding.
01:46:43.680 -->
01:46:46.800But then I would be up front and be like, look, this is my first wedding.
01:46:46.800 -->
01:46:48.239I want to build a portfolio.
01:46:48.239 -->
01:46:56.079There's a contract if you sign it that I can use this for promotional purposes, I will happily record it free for you, but I can only do this.
01:46:56.079 -->
01:47:00.880And then I would still go to a friend and ask them to be a second shooter for free, being honest.
01:47:00.880 -->
01:47:02.560I would not do it alone, but you can.
01:47:02.560 -->
01:47:09.359I'm saying if you approach, it's not the end of the world, but I would definitely never do both, and that's the advice at least I would give to people, you know.
01:47:09.600 -->
01:47:25.520Yeah, and um the first time I did a wedding with whatever side it was the first time I did a wedding and and actually contracted it and had a videographer and a photographer, it was so great because those days are long, and at least just having somebody there with you.
01:47:25.600 -->
01:47:28.319Yeah, and and like I said, they're also taking the workload off.
01:47:28.319 -->
01:47:29.439Yes, exactly.
01:47:29.600 -->
01:47:39.039So if I'm the videographer and somebody else is the photographer, there's times where I don't need to tape anything, like when they're taking their pictures, so I just help pose people, yeah, make his day easier.
01:47:39.039 -->
01:47:45.039When I need to video certain things, he's there to kind of help me out, or have the other people and distract them so I can do this.
01:47:45.279 -->
01:47:45.760There you go.
01:47:45.920 -->
01:47:46.800So you have that.
01:47:46.800 -->
01:47:52.000Um, so I'm gonna ask this question and think about the past, right?
01:47:52.000 -->
01:47:54.800Because now I'm pretty sure you will handle it a lot differently.
01:47:54.800 -->
01:47:55.039Yeah.
01:47:55.039 -->
01:47:57.199And you probably wouldn't have many of those.
01:47:57.199 -->
01:48:05.680In the past, more in the beginning, middle stages, how would you deal with customers or clients that weren't completely satisfied?
01:48:06.399 -->
01:48:12.479You're not gonna a lot of people won't believe that I've never really had a dissatisfied client.
01:48:12.479 -->
01:48:17.520Couple of because I don't I again, I said I I yeah, just don't say no.
01:48:17.520 -->
01:48:20.960Uh, I could probably go more to my actual nine to five job than I used to have it.
01:48:20.960 -->
01:48:25.199There are a lot of clients, but that wasn't me because there's a company they were mad at, right?
01:48:25.199 -->
01:48:30.800But I'm saying as far as video goes, I normally I've only done stuff, like I said, where where I was happy.
01:48:30.800 -->
01:48:33.359Now, clients, like I said, have made unreasonable requests.
01:48:33.359 -->
01:48:40.479Like, for example, I'll tell you one of the earlier gigs, somebody wanted me to shoot something, so we contracted, I'll come out for two days or whatever, right?
01:48:40.479 -->
01:48:42.239They'll pay me and then I'll edit it.
01:48:42.239 -->
01:48:43.359That's the scope of work.
01:48:43.359 -->
01:48:44.319I always did that.
01:48:44.319 -->
01:48:46.239And then they're like, hey, today's the nice weather.
01:48:46.239 -->
01:48:49.199Why don't you for an hour go collect some footage from that area?
01:48:49.199 -->
01:48:53.119And I was like, sure, but that's gonna be an additional 200 bucks.
01:48:53.119 -->
01:48:54.960Even when I'm starting, I'm like, I'm not going.
01:48:54.960 -->
01:48:56.000Why would I?
01:48:56.000 -->
01:48:57.199That's not in the scope.
01:48:57.199 -->
01:49:02.079I was like, if I spend your full production day for that silly thing, that makes no sense.
01:49:02.079 -->
01:49:05.119Remember, we gotta do a second production day because we've only done one.
01:49:05.119 -->
01:49:06.720So I presented it like that.
01:49:06.720 -->
01:49:15.039I was like, hey, I gotta remember, we don't want to spend the production day on this, so let's save that for the real shoot day where we need to do all this.
01:49:15.039 -->
01:49:22.319How about I just for a couple hours give me a couple hundred bucks or whatever I said, I don't remember the exact amount, uh, maybe 150, something like that.
01:49:22.319 -->
01:49:32.239And then that too, so the answer was yeah, because like we're not playing around here, but at the same time, I would I'm if I'm new, I'm not gonna charge obviously thousands or all hours, like on how it would be for a shoot day.
01:49:32.239 -->
01:49:39.039But ultimately, the the that's how I approached it, and maybe I'm different, but I was always like, I'm not gonna let anyone take advantage of me.
01:49:39.039 -->
01:49:46.079Now, funny enough, actually, recently I was getting a couple of examples where clients were dissatisfied, and it's funny, it had nothing to do with me.
01:49:46.079 -->
01:49:52.319So uh one time um this guy was there, we were recording an event, it went amazing.
01:49:52.319 -->
01:49:59.760Like I contracted with them, and I always go above and beyond, so I charge them, which I think was very reasonable for like an hour long speech.
01:49:59.760 -->
01:50:05.199And that actually was way longer, but to cut it down to an hour, and I'm talking fairly technical.
01:50:05.199 -->
01:50:15.439Uh, I brought like four, uh no, one, two, six, six people, one guy on literal Ronin, and you know, gimbal and FX6 is everywhere, dude.
01:50:15.439 -->
01:50:16.399For five, six grand.
01:50:16.399 -->
01:50:18.720Like, I I know my rates are low, I'm not joking.
01:50:18.720 -->
01:50:20.720And I'm good because I'm like, this is easy.
01:50:20.720 -->
01:50:24.960A couple hours, everyone gets paid, life is good, but also, you know, we get to edit.
01:50:24.960 -->
01:50:28.960So, in one way, like it's like good money, but the other way, I'm like, it's reasonable for what I brought.
01:50:28.960 -->
01:50:30.319Yeah, everything went amazing.
01:50:30.319 -->
01:50:32.399They're like, Yeah, you guys are great, blah, blah, blah.
01:50:32.399 -->
01:50:33.439Best team ever.
01:50:33.439 -->
01:50:37.279We give the video, and you know, obviously, we notice it, but we didn't say anything.
01:50:37.279 -->
01:50:40.800Uh, it's a live speech in front of like I'm saying hundreds and hundreds of people.
01:50:40.800 -->
01:50:43.279His pocket, he's wearing a suit, right?
01:50:43.279 -->
01:50:46.960Went came out, and because you know, I guess he had his hands or whatever.
01:50:46.960 -->
01:50:48.319We have nothing, we're back of the house.
01:50:48.319 -->
01:50:49.439You know how it is on risers.
01:50:49.439 -->
01:50:55.680And you and you can you're not gonna go there and say, Stop! Yeah, and funny enough, yeah, we noticed it, but I'm like, Well, this is edited.
01:50:55.680 -->
01:50:58.399The thing we delivered, they signed off the video too.
01:50:58.399 -->
01:50:59.840They remember, they haven't even still noticed it.
01:50:59.840 -->
01:51:03.119They was like, This is incredible, let's add subtitles, everything's done.
01:51:03.119 -->
01:51:04.399So I made even more money.
01:51:04.399 -->
01:51:06.720But yeah, we can add subtitles.
01:51:06.720 -->
01:51:07.760Life is good.
01:51:07.760 -->
01:51:09.600Anyway, done, signed off.
01:51:09.600 -->
01:51:11.680They're like, incredible video guys, well done.
01:51:11.680 -->
01:51:17.279We gotta talk more about videos, and then yeah, two days later, obviously, somebody finally noticed the pocket out.
01:51:17.279 -->
01:51:20.159And they as soon as they pointed out, the guy's like upset.
01:51:20.159 -->
01:51:23.680He's like, Oh my goodness, somebody should have told me, you know, my pock's up.
01:51:23.680 -->
01:51:30.079Like, no, that's unreasonable because A, first of all, it's a live event, and then two, it's not my put your pocket in.
01:51:30.079 -->
01:51:31.760The guy on the roan in it.
01:51:31.760 -->
01:51:32.720Exactly.
01:51:32.720 -->
01:51:36.880Like, and two, you know, I mean, it's one thing on a studio, obviously we can we can do that.
01:51:36.880 -->
01:51:38.720But like on a live A, I'm not looking for that.
01:51:38.720 -->
01:51:40.319Wardrobe is not my thing.
01:51:40.319 -->
01:51:48.239But two, uh, you know, I'm I'm not even I'm just I was asked literally the scope of work was record a speech.
01:51:48.239 -->
01:51:51.279Yeah, that is videography, that's not filmmaking.
01:51:51.279 -->
01:51:58.640I'm not there to check for wardrobe, I'm there to record a speech, and I did it way, way amazing than you know what the the task was.
01:51:58.640 -->
01:52:01.199A we never checked the wardrobe.
01:52:01.199 -->
01:52:03.520B, once we started rolling, you're on stage.
01:52:03.520 -->
01:52:04.399At that point, it's too late.
01:52:04.399 -->
01:52:05.279Now it's one thing, yeah.
01:52:05.279 -->
01:52:07.039If I was there, I saw it.
01:52:07.039 -->
01:52:09.600You're marking them up, and you're like, oh, okay.
01:52:09.600 -->
01:52:13.920But we didn't notice anything until they were on stage, it was rolling, so I don't know at what point it happened.
01:52:13.920 -->
01:52:15.760It's not on, in my opinion, us.
01:52:15.760 -->
01:52:20.079When it's rolling, I can't, I in my opinion, I'm not gonna stop them.
01:52:20.079 -->
01:52:24.960I don't care what's happening, I'm not going up there to stop the speech or even any of my cam ops.
01:52:24.960 -->
01:52:27.600Mario, did you feel confident enough to go spot stop the speech?
01:52:27.600 -->
01:52:29.439Do you know the project I'm talking about?
01:52:29.439 -->
01:52:38.000Okay, would you have I'm saying Dared in front of 300 people where you were on the gimbal and Anthony was on the Ronin?
01:52:38.000 -->
01:52:41.760Would you have gone and stopped the speech to fix a pocket?
01:52:41.760 -->
01:52:42.880Not really.
01:52:42.880 -->
01:52:43.840Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:52:43.840 -->
01:52:46.560I don't know anyone with it, and I don't know the right way to approach it.
01:52:46.560 -->
01:52:48.079That would be somebody on their team.
01:52:48.079 -->
01:52:52.640Yeah, but to be honest, the way I approached it, and again, I think my approach was so professional.
01:52:52.640 -->
01:52:54.880I was like, as soon as they were like, hey, we don't like that.
01:52:54.880 -->
01:52:56.800I was like, Yeah, I absolutely I agree with you.
01:52:56.800 -->
01:53:00.079I think that's unfortunate that there was a wardrobe issue.
01:53:00.079 -->
01:53:06.960You know, next time we should take a look at that, like I'll make sure somebody in your team checks for that.
01:53:06.960 -->
01:53:10.640And he's like, Yeah, I wish you guys you're you had seven people that somebody would have noticed that.
01:53:10.640 -->
01:53:12.239I'm like, Yeah, we did notice that.
01:53:12.239 -->
01:53:18.000But you know, you normally, if you're supposed to check wardrobe, we'd bring a wardrobe person, but that wasn't in the scope of the work.
01:53:18.000 -->
01:53:20.399But here's something nice I can do for you.
01:53:20.399 -->
01:53:22.239No, I even offered, forget the wardrobe.
01:53:22.239 -->
01:53:30.880I say, if you want, we can always add in a wardrobe person, but I'm just happy in general next time to come look at you before you go on stage and confirm the wardrobe looks good.
01:53:30.880 -->
01:53:32.399That's going above and beyond.
01:53:32.399 -->
01:53:35.199Yeah, and I think next and next time he probably won't even make that mistake.
01:53:35.199 -->
01:53:35.680Exactly.
01:53:35.680 -->
01:53:38.159But I'm saying these type of things happen, you know, it's a live thing.
01:53:38.159 -->
01:53:39.439And that's the nature of life.
01:53:39.439 -->
01:53:40.960Sneeze the booger on your hair.
01:53:40.960 -->
01:53:41.520Yeah, exactly.
01:53:41.600 -->
01:53:42.960And I'm can't you take that out?
01:53:43.119 -->
01:53:43.359Yeah.
01:53:43.359 -->
01:53:43.920No.
01:53:43.920 -->
01:53:48.560So anyway, so but I'm saying, talk about, like you said, the clients are dissatisfied.
01:53:48.560 -->
01:53:53.760And I and I'm sure no matter what I could have said, said there or done there, they're just gonna blame.
01:53:53.760 -->
01:53:57.039And because you know, people, human nature, you're looking for you cannot blame yourself.
01:53:57.039 -->
01:54:02.319Because I'm pretty sure at some point, most likely I'm guessing, uh, I I can go back, probably look at the footage.
01:54:02.319 -->
01:54:04.479He put it probably put his hand there and it came out, right?
01:54:04.479 -->
01:54:05.760Yeah, true, or somebody else did.
01:54:05.760 -->
01:54:13.119Either way, I'm saying we had nothing to do with that, but their nature is not human nature is not to go, oh, I I effed up or whatever.
01:54:13.119 -->
01:54:17.039It's like those guys, and I approach it like that.
01:54:17.039 -->
01:54:35.279Like I said, mine was hey, this is what happened, this is how we can resolve it professionally, but as a courtesy, I'll do that job, even though it's not in my scope of work or my job, because I want I genuinely care about making a good product because now it sucks because they were so happy with it, they were gonna use that product, and now they're not they can't use it, right?
01:54:35.279 -->
01:54:38.319I see the point of theirs because it bothers them.
01:54:38.319 -->
01:54:44.960Yeah, and kind of does bother me too, but there's nothing we can do about it because otherwise we do it in a controlled setting.
01:54:44.960 -->
01:54:46.000Yeah, but that's not that.
01:54:46.399 -->
01:54:54.000And to go back to that wedding that they were not satisfied with, they were using the sound system of the church, they weren't talking in the mics.
01:54:54.000 -->
01:54:57.760No, so there was no way for you to get audio.
01:54:57.760 -->
01:54:59.119There's no way for me to get audio.
01:54:59.520 -->
01:55:01.680Was there a board that you could have pulled it from or whatever?
01:55:01.680 -->
01:55:02.000No.
01:55:02.319 -->
01:55:09.439Even so at that point, you know, I didn't, you know, know about well, I've done sound before, of course, but I didn't have any of that kind of stuff.
01:55:09.439 -->
01:55:09.840Yeah.
01:55:09.840 -->
01:55:12.319So um, I didn't have any wireless mics.
01:55:12.319 -->
01:55:15.520I just had like a little, you know, the little road ones that they used to have.
01:55:15.520 -->
01:55:17.279Yeah, I don't even know where mine is anymore.
01:55:17.279 -->
01:55:21.279But even with that, they weren't like they weren't talking in the mic.
01:55:21.359 -->
01:55:21.840Yeah.
01:55:23.039 -->
01:55:28.159So a lot of times during these weddings, the officiants talking on the mic.
01:55:28.159 -->
01:55:30.800Yeah, and they're just and they never give them the mic.
01:55:30.960 -->
01:55:31.199Yeah.
01:55:31.359 -->
01:55:32.640Alright, what's your vows?
01:55:33.439 -->
01:55:36.079Yeah, and then they're talking, and most people can't hear them.
01:55:36.159 -->
01:55:42.000Yeah, you can't hear them, so like during that, and the and the pastor kind of had had my back to with that.
01:55:42.000 -->
01:55:44.720I was like, there was no way I could get, I mean, I can't stop the wedding.
01:55:44.720 -->
01:55:46.159And it kind of went to the same thing.
01:55:46.159 -->
01:55:50.079I couldn't stop you and say, hey, talk louder or say into this.
01:55:50.079 -->
01:55:50.399Yeah.
01:55:50.399 -->
01:55:53.600And um, so everything worked out good.
01:55:53.840 -->
01:55:58.239Yeah, and like I say, it was your first because now you know, like you can mic the groom, right?
01:55:58.239 -->
01:56:04.319Throw one of those recorder mic, not the one I'm talking, go, but you know the one that internally records, so it never has to transmit.
01:56:04.319 -->
01:56:05.279So I think stuff like that.
01:56:05.680 -->
01:56:08.560If I was going to weddings, there's a few different ways of doing it.
01:56:08.560 -->
01:56:17.520There is the you know, kind of documentary kind of like what kind of uh clip kind of version of it, and then there's the the whole entire wedding.
01:56:17.520 -->
01:56:23.279And I think one of the biggest things, if you're gonna do weddings, audio, audio, audio, audio.
01:56:23.279 -->
01:56:26.239If you have one camera, you probably need three or four mics.
01:56:26.399 -->
01:56:26.720Yeah.
01:56:26.720 -->
01:56:34.159Yeah, you gotta definite, at least, I mean, I know people who try to bride them mic the brides, but that can be difficult, I get it.
01:56:34.159 -->
01:56:46.960So at least Mike the groom and Mike the offician, and but also the type of mic that will record, you know, like a tentacle sync track E or a pocket, I think uh DD has I mean a lot of companies have recorders, what I'm saying.
01:56:46.960 -->
01:56:53.920The ones that record internally, sure they can maybe transmit too, but you want to have the recording it happening in there.
01:56:53.920 -->
01:56:59.119So if your camera disconnects or something weird happens, you can just go and pull it out.
01:56:59.119 -->
01:57:00.880DJ's messed up my audio before.
01:57:00.880 -->
01:57:02.960I haven't tried flipped into him.
01:57:03.520 -->
01:57:10.960I've had uh and I was like, okay, so there's another way of doing it where they just tape the mic on that their mic as a backup.
01:57:10.960 -->
01:57:11.520Yep.
01:57:11.520 -->
01:57:14.880Um, yeah, but I was just like, yeah, this is too much.
01:57:15.199 -->
01:57:15.920Or they've lost my.
01:57:15.920 -->
01:57:22.640I've had again, not vettings, but in general, I've given my mic to a soundboard or whatever, and then it's not there.
01:57:22.640 -->
01:57:25.119And then at that point, I'm like, I'm not gonna fight with them.
01:57:25.119 -->
01:57:28.880You know, it's like you go in there like, yeah, it was just right here, not here anymore.
01:57:28.880 -->
01:57:29.840And it's like, really?
01:57:29.840 -->
01:57:30.399Uh-huh.
01:57:30.399 -->
01:57:31.600Uh so you know, it's like stuff.
01:57:31.600 -->
01:57:34.800So I'm like, I just like to do my own mics, get my own recorders.
01:57:34.800 -->
01:57:35.119Yep.
01:57:35.119 -->
01:57:38.399That way, it's just less risk, less dealing with it.
01:57:38.399 -->
01:57:41.520And even if I pull from them, I generally now do with an XLR.
01:57:41.520 -->
01:57:45.760That was I'm like, yeah, I have it, and worst case, I'm just doing my own anyway.
01:57:45.760 -->
01:57:47.119This is just a backup.
01:57:47.119 -->
01:57:50.319Um, because like you said, there's a lot of variables in real life.
01:57:50.319 -->
01:57:53.760Because it's see the thing about studio is it brings its own challenges.
01:57:53.760 -->
01:57:54.159Yes.
01:57:54.159 -->
01:57:58.239But you can you can stop, you can fix, you can go back.
01:57:58.239 -->
01:58:00.960Real life events, conferences.
01:58:00.960 -->
01:58:04.800I mean, I'm talking corporate side events, and even churches, conferences.
01:58:04.800 -->
01:58:11.520Yeah, anything that's live, you you you gotta be prepared for anything and everything to go wrong, and usually it will.
01:58:11.520 -->
01:58:13.119Power going out.
01:58:13.199 -->
01:58:14.319Yeah, we've had that happen.
01:58:14.319 -->
01:58:16.880So our last conference at the church we were at.
01:58:16.880 -->
01:58:22.000Um, we were in a place where like I think we were seeing like 800 people were almost packed.
01:58:22.000 -->
01:58:30.000Quentin was there with me, and the sound, the church was like, the audio guy asked, Well, how much what's your power that you have in your building?
01:58:30.000 -->
01:58:31.680And he's like, Oh, it's enough.
01:58:31.680 -->
01:58:33.199Well, we'll see.
01:58:33.199 -->
01:58:37.119Yeah, the power cut off like a couple times.
01:58:37.119 -->
01:58:39.199Cut off like probably like five.
01:58:39.199 -->
01:58:42.640Yeah, and that could corrupt an audio file, you know, or a video file.
01:58:42.640 -->
01:58:44.960Yeah, video file, so that kind of messed us up too.
01:58:44.960 -->
01:58:47.119The live goes out, the internet goes out.
01:58:47.119 -->
01:58:47.840Oh man.
01:58:48.239 -->
01:58:50.560So yeah, even if you had a battery backup live time, the internet.
01:58:50.560 -->
01:58:57.840Yeah, so even even when you so you gotta have a uh live view again, it's going back to, but that's expensive, yeah.
01:58:58.079 -->
01:58:59.600It's expensive, yes it is.
01:58:59.600 -->
01:59:04.239And even with um the level at where my church does it at, right?
01:59:04.239 -->
01:59:20.399So we're in the midst of we what happens, we've been doing it so long that when we started catching up, we're still we we caught up, and then we get behind because you're doing it for so long, and it's not like live is making a whole bunch of money in those type of situations.
01:59:20.399 -->
01:59:28.319So it's like we're now we're behind, and now we gotta upgrade all this stuff, but it's like we gotta upgrade this, this, this, this.
01:59:28.319 -->
01:59:32.239So I'm like, I just keep it on the back burner and say I have a list of everything they need.
01:59:32.960 -->
01:59:41.039Yeah, no, that's that's very smart because like you said, uh, and and like I said, I don't want to go or just defend because there will be people who are just unreasonable.
01:59:41.039 -->
01:59:50.319Yeah, and that's why you uh I and again, my advice would be to also uh, you know, how they audition you, like they choose you out of all the vetting video or or event video people.
01:59:50.319 -->
01:59:51.760You you have to do the same thing.
01:59:51.760 -->
01:59:58.000Always meet with people either through video call or through um you know in-person meeting if you can.
01:59:58.000 -->
02:00:02.880So you can also vibe check them because you'll know immediately, you know, if they're fit or not.
02:00:02.880 -->
02:00:04.479Because don't be afraid to say no.
02:00:04.479 -->
02:00:08.960Yeah, don't please don't be afraid to say no because I've gotten bad vibes and said I just can't do it.
02:00:08.960 -->
02:00:13.279Yeah, you could just say I'm I'm not free, I'm not available, or I doesn't seem like a good fit.
02:00:13.520 -->
02:00:15.760You know, sometimes it's past that point.
02:00:15.760 -->
02:00:17.600He's like, No, I guess no, yeah, yeah.
02:00:17.600 -->
02:00:19.359I've had to say that once.
02:00:19.359 -->
02:00:20.479No, and that's okay.
02:00:20.479 -->
02:00:24.399Yeah, try not to, or I you know, make the excuse I'm not available.
02:00:24.720 -->
02:00:27.600Or or no, just say this this doesn't seem like the right fit.
02:00:27.600 -->
02:00:28.319So thank you.
02:00:28.319 -->
02:00:29.279That's that's what I'm saying.
02:00:29.279 -->
02:00:36.000You can be honest and and and move on because at the end day, like you said, it's better to do now than when the wedding's over.
02:00:36.000 -->
02:00:39.439And because that's that's not I don't want to be in that situation.
02:00:39.439 -->
02:00:39.760Uh-huh.
02:00:39.760 -->
02:00:54.239Like I said, if a client can get us upset about a pocket that had no control over us, I can't imagine uh uh you know somebody who's wedding, especially if they care, you know, they planned it, they they they did all that, and then then never never to have that video again.
02:00:54.239 -->
02:00:56.399I I don't want to be that person, is what I'm saying.
02:00:56.399 -->
02:01:08.640So I'd rather find the vibe, make sure you know you you match with the couple and and the bride and whoever, and you understand their expectations, you charge appropriately at the level you are, and then you set the expectations.
02:01:08.640 -->
02:01:14.560I would even send them an example, like this is what I've done, like something you've actually done, so they can get an idea, you know.
02:01:14.560 -->
02:01:15.840Oh, yeah, that matches.
02:01:15.840 -->
02:01:16.319I love that.
02:01:16.319 -->
02:01:17.920There you go, then do that, right?
02:01:17.920 -->
02:01:24.479And if it doesn't, then they'll know, you know, we're looking for something higher end or lower end or whatever, and then you know, it's it's a conversation.
02:01:24.800 -->
02:01:37.600And one of the things I know um in the beginning is learning the style that you do things because when you're when you're in the beginning and starting out, you don't have a style, so you don't really know what you're gonna do.
02:01:38.000 -->
02:01:41.760That's when, like you said, I think you earlier said perfectly go be a second shooter for someone.
02:01:41.760 -->
02:01:42.399Exactly.
02:01:42.399 -->
02:01:44.079See I wish I would have done that more.
02:01:44.079 -->
02:01:50.560Because yeah, because you learn from that other people, and and and also do it for more than one person, because if you just go with one, you just learn what they're doing.
02:01:50.560 -->
02:01:50.880Yep.
02:01:50.880 -->
02:01:53.199I think you should go try out with three, four people.
02:01:53.199 -->
02:02:02.720Uh, you know, obviously good get good at camera, go do that, help them out, uh, you know, shoot enough, and I think you'll know very soon if A, this is even for you.
02:02:02.720 -->
02:02:03.119Yeah.
02:02:03.119 -->
02:02:16.640Or, and then if it is, then you know, which style, or you can mix and match and make your own thing, then do your first wedding for free, where you, you know, build this style or your own one, and then you go now show it to other couples, and that's how you would get couples.
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02:02:32.079The thing is, I think the summary of all this is you can make money doing weddings, you can do photo, you can do video, you can make money building a studio, yeah, uh, you can make money doing corporate stuff, you can uh do live events, you can go help your church and travel the world.
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02:02:33.520I mean, there's so much.
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02:02:39.760So, if you're passionate about photo and video, yeah, there's so many avenues to pursue.
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02:02:42.079So the best thing you have to do is just do it.
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02:02:42.880That's it.
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02:02:47.760And I can't believe our time is up and I could talk for you so long.
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02:02:48.479This is amazing.
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02:02:50.880The conversation was incredible, Lamar.
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02:02:56.800Um, before we go, please title everyone where they can find you, follow you, tell them about the studio, all that.
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02:03:03.920Okay, so um, my name is Lamar Sheeley, and uh LS Services is my company name.
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02:03:06.319Delta Studios is the studio.
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02:03:14.960If you go on Instagram, Facebook, Delta Studios Orlando, if you or you can find me on Lamar at Lamar Sheeley, all the platforms.
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02:03:19.359Um, our website, I think it's Delta Studios.com.
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02:03:21.920And then um I have LS Services.biz.
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02:03:27.600You can go to either one of them and um yeah, catch me up, you know, talking.
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02:03:30.880We shooting.
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02:03:32.640Yeah, what are we doing here?
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02:03:33.680Uh no, yeah.
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02:03:47.439Um, reach out to him if you ever in the Orlando area, you guys need a studio to shoot a podcast or something indoors, also just in general for advice, questions, and um our or his business partner through Delta Studios, if you want to talk about it.
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02:03:52.000Or whatever, he was here last season, pull up his episode, watch him, you know.
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02:03:54.800Uh and then uh yeah, that's about it.
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02:03:56.159Dude, I want to really thank you.
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02:03:57.600This was an incredible conversation.
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02:03:59.119I had such a great time with you.
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02:04:01.680Uh, like I said, you have an incredible positive energy.
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02:04:02.079Thank you.
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02:04:04.640And I really like you know your partner sometimes.
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02:04:13.600Uh I'm talking business partner, and uh yeah, not that but you know, Quentin's a good, great guy, and um, you know, I'm so glad you guys came together and what you're doing.
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02:04:16.479I really like what you're doing, and I wish you both the success.
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02:04:16.880Thank you.
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02:04:19.279And I'm here, however, I can help you.
02:04:19.279 -->
02:04:24.239And thank you, Mario, for another episode for producing it, cutting it for us.
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02:04:24.800Thank you so much.
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02:04:27.199Yeah, thank you.
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02:04:28.720And uh thank you again.
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02:04:29.920Appreciate you, brother.
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02:04:35.600And thank you for watching another episode of Studio B Sessions with me, Bendra, and we will see you again next time.
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02:04:39.279Don't forget Thursdays, every Thursday, yeah, morning.
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02:04:40.479All right, bye.
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02:04:41.520All right, bye.
