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They got me set up like I'm a serial killer.
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Right now, are you?
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No, I'm not.
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I'll pass any polygra if you throw at me, you
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know I have no reason to lie.
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If you passed him pushing your grocery cart, you'd never
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know that inside his head he just thought about how
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to kill you.
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My daughter went on a run in the morning, and
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she's been gone a lot longer than I expected.
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There's no doubt in my mind he would have continued
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slaughtering young women and girls.
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The female jumped out.
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Of a white Julie.
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She needs an ambulance. She can't walk.
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It's like we have a predator in our neighborhood.
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You have the capacity to become a serial killer on
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a scale that is difficult to even imagine.
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Just southwest of Oklahoma City lies the tiny town of Anadarko,
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population six thousand.
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It's just your average rural Oklahoma town. I had a
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real high crime rate. Everybody's pretty laid back. There's not
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a lot there to miss or see. Really, when you
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meet somebody knew, you ask them who their people are,
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because you're going to know somebody in their family.
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Everyone in Anadarko knows Kathy Dobrie and her daughter, Tiffany.
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My name is Kathy Dobrie and I'm the mother of
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Tiffany Debrie Johnston. She's always with me before she got married.
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She was my shadow everyone, That's what everyone called her.
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Tiffany was very energetic, loving, caring, hyper. She cared about everyone.
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She liked animals, She liked to play in the dirt.
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She wanted to study the plan and see what they
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how they were formed, and want to have you because
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she could grow just about anything.
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She said her mind to.
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Tiffany and I became friends in junior high I was
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new to town, new to the area, and uh didn't
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really know anybody, didn't have any friends, didn't have much
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going for me, and uh, Tiffany was the type of
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person that was going to take care of you.
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Uh.
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She just decided she was going to be my friend
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since I didn't have any Her and I were friends
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from then on.
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Shortly after graduating high school, Tiffany marries her childhood sweetheart.
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She said she was back madly in love with Ryan
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and all girls should marry their first sweetheart. She was
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determined to get married, and she did.
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The young couple moved to nearby Bethany Ryan is Floyd
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did a manufacturing plant.
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Well.
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Nineteen year old Tiffany works two jobs so she could
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afford a new car.
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She traded her car, yeah, on her new white Neon.
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She was so proud of that.
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She's always cleaning it out or worshing it or because
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she was proud of it. Was something that she worked
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for that she got.
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On July twenty sixth, nineteen ninety seven, the newlyweds planned
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to meet at a club after work.
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Jiffey had gotten off work and then she went and
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cleaned out her car or worceshed her car because it
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was hers and Ryan's three month anniversary.
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I was actually working patrol at that time, and I
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drove by the Sunshine car wash. There's about four vehicles
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that were there, people still washing their car, and I
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did observe a white vehicle in the furthest West stall
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that had no one around it. It was about forty
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five minutes later I was again driving by that car wash,
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and now there were no vehicles other than that one
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white car in the far west stall and there was
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nobody around the car. We did not see anyone around
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the car wash at all. Detective Mobley looked in the
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passenger side, and he advised me that the keys to
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the vehicle were still in the ignition. That kind of
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raised our concern, so we started look into it a
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little deeper. Myself and Mobley made entry into the vehicle
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to try to find a phone number or name of
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someone that we might be able to contact. We did
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end up locating the number with the word mom on it.
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The police department called around midnight. I wanted to know Tift.
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He had a white car, and if I knew where
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she was, I started calling people. I knew that she
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might go to. No one had hard from her, no
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one had seen her. And this is like at two
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o'clock in the morning. So by the time we got
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up here at the car wash, they had everything blocked
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off down deep. You knew that, with all her personal
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belongings in her pit her car, that she had been
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adopted and she was probably not alive.
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A frequent visitor to the car wash is thirty eight
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year old William Reese, who Kathy knows from his time
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in Anadarko.
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He was always in trouble.
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He he stole vehicles, he sold from grocery stores or
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what have you.
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He had been in jail. He'd already been in prison,
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he had just gotten out shortly before this happening.
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So William Reese was born in nineteen fifty nine in Oklahoma,
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and so it was a pretty depressed area that he
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grew up in. He had a difficult upbringing, unstable childhood.
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He was one of thirteen children. He was in foster
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care system for a while. He was forced to quit
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school in the ninth grade and go to work. So
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this is somebody, I think who got a pretty tough
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start in life. There was probably a combination of neglect
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with so many siblings and there being a lot of
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financial instability, and I think it would have been a
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pretty harsh upbringing in a lot of respects. There's a
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lot of suspicions that he was in views at some point.
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Thirteen siblings, a family background, being moved around. You have
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lots of negative risk factors in front of Reece.
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That marriage does not last very long, and doesn't it
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fizzles out pretty quickly because of how we and Raese
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is treating his wife. He's drinking and he's physically abusive
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to her and she ends the relationship. This is somebody who,
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for whatever reason, doesn't respect women, feels entitled to behave However,
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he wants to likely blames everything that's wrong in his
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life on other people, and those are things that do
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not bode well in terms of his relationship with other
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women in the future or his ability to adjust and
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adapt effectively to life as an adult. His ex wife
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said that he was unusually close to his mom, and
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even she'd made the combat at one point that she
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felt like his mom was so protective of him that quote,
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you know, if he kills somebody, she would help him
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hide the body.
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It's one day since Tiffany Dobrie went missing with her
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car left at a Bethany carwash around fifty miles away.
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Oklahoma City police make a gruesome discovery while investigating their
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own missing person's case.
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As they were investigating that scene, they canvassed the area
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and then ended up finding Tiffany's body on that same
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road about one hundred yards down.
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Ask yourself, who did it? Why would someone want to
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kill TiO.
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You didn't think about your friend just getting murdered for
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no reason out in the middle of nowhere like that.
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It just didn't happen.
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The thing that always kind of bothered me the most
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is that Tiffing and Ryan, they just started their lives
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together and within three months it got taken away. If
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they had their full life together, what would have come
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of that?
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And so we went down a list of people for
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the police to check out because we didn't know what
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else to do, and if the first thing that Mama
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thought of to so I can't that it didn't enter
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our minds, because they did. You don't know if he
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was really at work or not. You know, he could
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have took off.
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In any case where you have someone that has disappeared,
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you know, you always you always got to start with
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people that are close and family members. So absolutely he
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was looked at.
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Police soon determined Tiffany was last seen alive shortly after
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six pm on July twenty seventh. Her husband was at
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work from three pm until eleven pm, and is cleared
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of any suspicion. Bethany police conducted a background check on
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local sex offenders, including William Or. They find no evidence
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linking him to the crime scene. Tiffany's mother knows Reese's mother,
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who offers to prepare Tiffany's clothes for her funeral.
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Her name with pat She wasn't a friend, but she
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was an acquaintance because she did my ironing and what
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have you for me?
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And so we.
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Took Tiffany's clothes down to her for her to press
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some for us, because she called and said she would
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do that.
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In nineteen eighty six, he kidnaps a woman and he
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rapes her. And at that point, I think he has
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taken a hard turn in his life, because now he
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is making choices that the vast majority of people would
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never make. He's become a criminal, He's become a predator.
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He was driving a truck and going to pick up
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a load, and he picked her up and rude. Her
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car broke down under a overpass, and he stopped and
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asked if she needed help. He kept on her and
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then she finally agreed and got in the truck with him.
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Reese is arrested but released after posting bail. He a
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tax agan.
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One month later, he rapes one woman while he's awaiting
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trial for raping another one. I don't know how you
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get any more of a definition of a predator than that.
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Both of these victims survive their ordeal and have their
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identities protected. Re stands trial on two counts of rape.
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He has found guilty and sentenced to twenty five years
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in prison.
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For an individual who is inside of a correctional institution
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for years, that day is filled with border. Our environment
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creates our propensity to be involved in crime. Well, just
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think of it. You're surrounded by other people who have
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committed crimes. One learns to associate with certain people. One
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has to protect themselves. Inside of a correctional institution a
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lot of time to think.
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Reese's attorneys claim errors were made during his trial, and
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after serving ten years of his twenty five year sentence,
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convicted rapist, Reese is released early. He briefly lives with
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his mother and Anna Darko before moving seven hours away
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to Houston, Texas.
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My daughter went on a run this morning, and she's
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been gone a lot longer than I perfected, Bob Feather.
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Twelve year old Laura Smither goes for a jog in
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her friends With Texas neighborhood and never returns home.
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I'd never seen anything quite like this before. I mean,
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you had people from everywhere coming out of the woodwork
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for this young girl. They were going through the fields,
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they were searching in bodies of water everywhere.
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Laura's body is found seventeen days later in a retention
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pond in nearby Pasadena.
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That today I will never forget because you had a
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father and son. They were out there, they were training
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a hunting dog. Hunting dog hits on something in the water.
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Father and son go out there to see what's going on.
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And this is the part that I mean, just so chilling,
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because the dad looked at the sun and says, I
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wonder what kind of animal that is? And the son
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looks back at the dad and says, animals don't wear socks.
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William Reese became a suspect early on because he was
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a convicted second out of Oklahoma, and that's fairly standard.
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When you have a child disappear like this, police start
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looking at registered sex offenders in the area. More than that,
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Reese had a construction job near this spot. It got
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rained out the morning Laura disappeared, so he would have
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been going home and that would have put him along
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her route about the time she disappeared. There were fibers
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that were found that matched formats in his truck. The
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fibers were unique, but they weren't so incredibly unique that
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it's like, Okay, these fibers could only possibly have come
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from William Reese's truck. It wasn't unique enough, and honestly,
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fibers are not DNA. A lot of that evidence had
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been destroyed because Laura was left in water.
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This is a twelve year old child, and what that
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tells me is one of two things. Either William Reese
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did not recognize how young she was when he grabbed her.
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I don't believe that. Number two is that this is
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somebody who is sexually interested in this age group and
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is willing to take advantage of an opportunity and rape
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and murder somebody who is that innocent and that young.
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While under police suspicion and within their custody, Reese speaks
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with the Texas News Channel to profess his innocence.
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Who they gonna look at first, an ex con, especially
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if you've done hard time, You're gonna be a number
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one suspect no matter what. And if they can't find nobody,
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you're gonna be their Patsy.
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Sandra sa Paul, a nineteen year old pregnant mother, comes
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face to face with William Reese just south of Houston.
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She goes into a convenience store and she comes out
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of the convenience store. See she has a flat tire.
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A supposed good Samaritan comes along. Oh, let me help
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you out.
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With that tire.
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Boom grabs her, tosses her into the truck, takes off
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down the freeway.
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The fact that William Race acts so quickly after his
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race in prison suggests to me that this is somebody
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who has thought about this and fantasized about this for
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nine years. While behind bars, he tells her to take
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her clothes off. She bends down to take her shoes
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off and notices that the car door is unlocked, and she,
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at that point makes a very important decision.
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This may be my last opportunity. The more secluded, the
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more away, the more the person is going to their
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environment rather than being in my environment, takes the advantage
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away from you.
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I would rather die jumping out of this car and
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leaving my fate in my own hands, than suffer whatever
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is about to happen if I stay with this man.
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The females jumped out of a white duly unknown LP
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left feet headed forty five mark bound.
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She needs an ambulance.
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He can't walk, and.
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We got an anulty.
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With Sandra Now safe. Police begin questioning her, hoping that
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can find her kidnapper before he attacks again. Twenty year
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old Kelly Anne Cox goes missing in Denton, Texas.
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Kelly Cox was a beautiful, single mom college student in
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what is essentially kind of a college town of Denton, Texas.
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She had just wrapped up a school field trip. She
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was studying the area of criminal justice, and she stopped
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at this convenience store and unfortunately that's where she crossed
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paths with William Race. She has vanished into thin air.
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And that's what's again so frightening about all of this.
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It's somewhat mind boggling on the one hand, that William
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Race continues his killing spree after Sandra s Paul manages
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to get out an escape. William Race is so focused
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on finding young women that kind of fit his prototype
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and sexually assaulting them abducting them that he's not even
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concerned about Sandra se Paul. He is thinking about his
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next victim and finding her.
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Kelly Ane Cox's disappearance in Denton, Texas is around three
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hours away from Tiffany and Oklahoma. At the time of
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Tiffany's abduction, Kathy Doughbrie has no idea of these other cases.
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Seventeen year old high school student Jessica Cain goes missing
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near Houston.
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Just like the others, had her entire life ahead of
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her high school student with friends after a school event.
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Jessica was always very well behaved, never violated curfew anything
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like that. So when she didn't come home one time,
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her parents were instantly worried and her truck was found
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parked on the side of Interstate forty five. Like Laura,
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it was like she just fell into a hole in
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the universe, just vanished into thin air. But the truck
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was there, purse was in the front seat, didn't even
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really appear, there was any kind of a struggle. Oh,
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it's terrifying. It's like we have a predator in our neighborhood.
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People in the area were like, who is hunting our children?
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What we have as an apex predator an individual that
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has opportunity combined with skills and additionally being punished for
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the criminal act in the past, but not being deterred.
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I have always thought that the killing part of it
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for him was more pragmatic that I'm not going to
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leave a victim to point their finger at me again.
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My needs are more important than anybody else's, and I'm
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going to make sure that nobody's left to identify me.
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Kathy Doughbray still has no idea who killed her daughter.
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Police have no suspects and don't suspect William Reese is involved.
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But four hundred and fifty miles away in Texas, kidnapp
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survivor Sandra Saypaul is now facing him in a lineup.
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He's being asked to repeat the lines Sandra heard her
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kidnapperor shout you.
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Cannot explain.
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Yet.
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The net is closing around Reese in Texas, but will
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he be linked to the murder of Tiffany Johnston four
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hundred and fifty miles away. Three months after the murder
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of Tiffany Johnston, Sandra Sepaul has identified William Reese as
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her kidnapper four hundred and fifty miles away in Texas.
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As authorities gather evidence to prosecute him, the owner of
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the Sunshine car wash where Tiffany was last seen, recognizes
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Reese in news reports. He tells Oklahoma police that Reese
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is a frequent customer, but investigators still have no way
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of linking Reese to the crime.
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We checked people that lived in the area that had
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serious criminal histories, and none of those came to fruition.
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No forensic evidence at that time, and there weren't cameras
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in that area that we could rely on for evidence purposes.
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So it truly came to where we believed whoever committed
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this came from outside of the community.
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Bethany Police passed the case to the Oklahoma State Bureau
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of Investigation, but still no leads. Nine months passed by,
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and Tiffany's mother, Kathy Dobrie, makes a solemn vow.
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We had lots of redbirds around that day and were
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we live is American Indians, and I'm Party Indians, and
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we believe in the redbirds. When the redbirds come to
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see you as a visit from your loved one from heaven.
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I told her that I would find who murdered her
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and get justice for her because.
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What just wasn't right. They took away my youngest child.
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If something were to ever happen to anyone in my
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immediate family, Kathy is the first person I'm calling to
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start looking into it. She does not know how to
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give up, She does not quit, and she knew that
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one day we would get there. We just didn't know when.
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Each anniversary of Tiffany's murder is met with an eerie coincidence.
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Every year, on Tiffany's anniversary date, which is July the
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twenty sixth, there would be little necklaces, bracelets, and we'd
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gather these up. We didn't touch them. We put on
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gloves like you're supposed to, and would give them to
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the OSBI.
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It was concern of members of the department, and I
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think it's part of the family that the suspect might
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have been the one leaving these trinkets.
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They would just show up every year at the same time,
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and nobody would ever own up to putting them there.
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Cathy's dogged determination finally gets results in her daughter's cold case.
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Advanced DNA testing is performed using the evidence collected from
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Tiffany's body. It reveals a partial profile of her killer.
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Investigators compare this to DNA swabs from her ex boyfriend's husband, colleagues,
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and even patron seen at the car wash the day
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of her murder. All are excluded. Yet to be tested
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is Anadarko resident. William Lewis Reese, a known sex offender
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and frequent visitor to the car wash. Police also look
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for a link between Tiffany's killing and the crimes and
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Texas and realize a striking connection the inner State forty
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five corridor.
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A perfect formula does come together to allow these criminal
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activities to take place. Access very important. So here you
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have an area south of Houston, Texas before the very
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end in Galveston, and which one can be on the
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Interstate Highway and quickly be in another state or another
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part of this huge state of Texas very quickly.
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In many respects, Texas is a serial killer's dream. You
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can go for miles and miles without seeing anybody. There's
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actually a part of Texas that is infamous for being
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called the Texas Killing Fields because they discovered about thirty
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bodies of young women there that have been unsolved.
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Now we have a pattern, we have something to actually
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look at. So from this solid we have other cases
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that we can study along with ours to help get
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closure for all of them.
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It's a horribly frightening thing, especially as a father of two,
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to think that there are humans out there that walk
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around look at another human, go I want that. I'm
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going to take that, and they do.
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By January twenty fourteen, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation
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is closing in on suspected serial killer William Lewis Reese
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and seeks to obtain his DNA. Reese is easy to locate.
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He was successfully convicted for the kidnap of Sandra Say
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Paul and is serving a sixty years sentence in a
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Texas prison.
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Sandra Say Paul is the reason the murders stopped. I
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give her an amazing amount of credit because she was
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brave enough to escape him, and she was brave enough
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to never ever waver or never be intimidated, never be
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too scared to identify him, and stick through that all
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the way to the end. He was convicted and the
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only reason no one else was murdered is because he
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went to prison, and that was because of Sandra Sea Paul.
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Authority Swabbreeese for his DNA and compare it to the
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partial profile taken from Tiffany's body. The results indicate Reese
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could be the killer.
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We believed that he was probably the person that did it.
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It was just finding that link to be able to
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put it all together. You want to do everything you
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can to find that link, and I mean, look it
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took a decade for that link to finally come to fruition.
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Texas authorities discover another critical clue as they investigate the
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link between Reese and Tiffany's murder long distance phone cards.
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So he had these cards and he used one of
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them to make a phone call, and that was still
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in his truck when friends with police impounded it, and
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that wound up being some very key evidence that Oklahoma
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authorities used.
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Investigators go to William Rees and basically let him know
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that the gig is up and that you know, they
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have DNA linking him to Tiffany Johnston. And I think
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that at this point William Reese is somewhat panicked because
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he is well aware of the fact that Oklahoma has
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the death penalty, and so he is in prison in
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Texas at this point, and so I think he decided
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that if I'm cooperative with some of these other unsolved murders,
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perhaps I can avoid the death penalty in Texas and
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won't be extradited to Oklahoma to potentially face the death
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penalty there.
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With this new information linking Reese to Tiffany's murder as
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a bargaining tool, investigators questioned Reese about the murders of
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Laura Smither, Kelly Anne Cox, and Jessica Kain. He reveals
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where police can find the bodies of Jessica Kin and
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Kelly Ane Cox. His cooperation means Reese won't face the
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death penalty for these murders.
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He's a chess player. He knows how to use his ponds.
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He knows how to use his pieces, which pieces to sacrifice,
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when to get what he wants. And I feel that
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he has used his victims as those pieces and played
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them against law enforcement to gain favors. And I don't
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think that we will ever know how many of those
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pieces he has held.
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Back to play later.
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There's no reason to believe that there are not more
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that are out there. This is where further investigation can
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take place. But then there becomes a question for the individual.
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How much more information am I going to give you?
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If I'm already here for the rest of my life,
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what advantage do I have.
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Reese doesn't confess to any other murders. He claims he
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accidentally hit Laura Smither while she was jogging along the
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side of the road.
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I pick I even really real backwards, put her in
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a slowboard a trip on the pass your side and
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the horde like getting a lad the door.
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Took off.
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I don't remember now. I got out from where I
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was some danger park lady in the porter, and I
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went home.
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Reese doesn't say anymore about Kelly an Cox, just that
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he got into an altercation with her at a convenience store.
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Opened up my door, boom, I run right into her.
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Coke went all over me and we got into a chair,
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and she hit me with a coke. When I hit her,
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she hit her head. You know how your door opens up.
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Her head hit darre she slipped back.
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She's out.
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I put her in the back seat. She never woke up.
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She wouldn't breathe or nothing. She never woke up, and
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I dug me at the little home put.
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Her in in.
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Reese confessed, but they were carefully crafted confessions to where
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he upheld his end of the bargain that I'll tell
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you what happened. But he never really fully told police
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what he did.
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When you listen to his confessions or you hear his confessions,
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it's just it's just amazing how he just storts clearly
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what happened. They'll talk about murdering somebody, but they won't
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admit to assault sexual assault for some reason, or they'll
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do what a lot of murderers do, which is fine
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ways to what we psychologists called neutralize their actions. So
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that might mean blaming the victim, which he definitely did.
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You know, Oh, this person started it. We got into
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a match. You know this person, we got into some
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kind of argument about spilling coke on me. I can't
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think of a better description of somebody who has no compassion, empathy,
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or caring for his victims. They truly are objects for
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him to fulfill his sexual fantasies.
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Reese also claims an argument ensued with Tiffany Johnston at
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the car wash.
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Next thing I know, this girl is yelling at me
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that sprager. I don't think it's sprager, but she's cussing
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in everything. That's when I grabbed you around throat, he choking.
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She wouldn't move no more, and I shut the door
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and I backed out.
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They tried out such funny victims.
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I don't think so Okay, I guess.
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I don't think something kind of opens up.
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I mean, where spoil I mean for I know.
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Now My bow was to find who murdered her and
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get justice for her.
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William Reese is convicted of the kidnapping and first degree
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murder of Tiffany Johnston. He is sentenced to death.
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The day that we got our conviction on Reese, the
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redbirds were lined up outside our house on the light pole,
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off the way across the line, and.
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They were everywhere.
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Tiffany knew then that mama got justice.
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I'm persistent and.
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Like I said, she was my baby, and I made
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her a promise and I carried it out.
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He was ice cold, arrogant. When they showed the pictures
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of his victims' bodies of what he had done, he
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would smile and lick his lips.
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Kidney gave her live.
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To help the parents in Texas bring some closure to them,
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because if it hadn't have been for Tiffany's case, Texas
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wouldn't have had anything.
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Rees accepts a plea deal, and in addition to his
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current sentence for Sandra Sapau's kidnapping, he is sentenced to
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a further three life terms in a Texas prison for
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the murders of Jessica Cain, Kelly an Cox, and Laura Smither.
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William Reese is currently serving his prison sentences in Texas.
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So he still owes the state of Texas time for
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Sandra Sapau's kidnapping, and now for the murders of Laura,
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Jessica and Kelly Ann. There's an appeal process in Oklahoma.
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My sneaking suspicion is when he runs out of appeals
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in Oklahoma and they actually set a date for his execution,
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he will be extra guided back.
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We got justice for Tiffany in the court system. That
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he's getting to do what he wants to. He can
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go to the library, he can work on it, horseshoes, leather,
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or whatever he wants to do. And that's not justice
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for Tiffany. How could someone that I run across knew
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his mom?
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How could he have done that?
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Kathy suspects it was Reese's mother, Patsy leaving trinkets on
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Tiffany's grave.
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There's not a doubt in my mind that it was her,
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because I think she felt guilty because she knew that
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what her son had murdered Tiffany, and so that was
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her way of being at peace with the idea that
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she wouldn't talk to the police or wouldn't tell them.
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Every year, you could guarantee there would be something out there,
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and even to this day, woulden't. Tiffany's anniversary date comes around,
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we always check on the twenty six to see if
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anything has been placed on Tiffany's grave that we don't know,
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and nothing has showed up.
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Since Pat Diyed.
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I just want to know why we haven't been able
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to bring him back. I want to know why the
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DA will not sign off to have him brought back
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and put on death row. He took my friend, he
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took one of the best people I've ever known in
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my life, and he robbed the world of something great.
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I don't know what her plans were after college, but
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whatever they were, she was going to be great at it.
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They got me set up like I'm a serial killer.
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Right now, are you?
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No, I'm not.
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I'll pass any polygra if you throw at me, you
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know I have no reason to lie.
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If you passed him pushing your grocery cart, you'd never
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know that inside his head he just thought about how
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to kill you.
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My daughter went on a run in the morning, and
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she's been gone a lot longer than I expected.
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There's no doubt in my mind he would have continued
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slaughtering young women and girls.
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The female jumped out.
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Of a white Julie.
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She needs an ambulance. She can't walk.
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It's like we have a predator in our neighborhood.
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You have the capacity to become a serial killer on
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a scale that is difficult to even imagine.
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Just southwest of Oklahoma City lies the tiny town of Anadarko,
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population six thousand.
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It's just your average rural Oklahoma town. I had a
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real high crime rate. Everybody's pretty laid back. There's not
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a lot there to miss or see. Really, when you
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meet somebody knew, you ask them who their people are,
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because you're going to know somebody in their family.
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Everyone in Anadarko knows Kathy Dobrie and her daughter, Tiffany.
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My name is Kathy Dobrie and I'm the mother of
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Tiffany Debrie Johnston. She's always with me before she got married.
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She was my shadow everyone, That's what everyone called her.
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Tiffany was very energetic, loving, caring, hyper. She cared about everyone.
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She liked animals, She liked to play in the dirt.
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She wanted to study the plan and see what they
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how they were formed, and want to have you because
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she could grow just about anything.
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She said her mind to.
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Tiffany and I became friends in junior high I was
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new to town, new to the area, and uh didn't
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really know anybody, didn't have any friends, didn't have much
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going for me, and uh, Tiffany was the type of
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person that was going to take care of you.
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Uh.
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She just decided she was going to be my friend
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since I didn't have any Her and I were friends
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from then on.
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Shortly after graduating high school, Tiffany marries her childhood sweetheart.
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She said she was back madly in love with Ryan
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and all girls should marry their first sweetheart. She was
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determined to get married, and she did.
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The young couple moved to nearby Bethany Ryan is Floyd
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did a manufacturing plant.
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Well.
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Nineteen year old Tiffany works two jobs so she could
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afford a new car.
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She traded her car, yeah, on her new white Neon.
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She was so proud of that.
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She's always cleaning it out or worshing it or because
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she was proud of it. Was something that she worked
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for that she got.
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On July twenty sixth, nineteen ninety seven, the newlyweds planned
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to meet at a club after work.
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Jiffey had gotten off work and then she went and
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cleaned out her car or worceshed her car because it
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was hers and Ryan's three month anniversary.
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I was actually working patrol at that time, and I
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drove by the Sunshine car wash. There's about four vehicles
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that were there, people still washing their car, and I
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did observe a white vehicle in the furthest West stall
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that had no one around it. It was about forty
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five minutes later I was again driving by that car wash,
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and now there were no vehicles other than that one
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white car in the far west stall and there was
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nobody around the car. We did not see anyone around
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the car wash at all. Detective Mobley looked in the
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passenger side, and he advised me that the keys to
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the vehicle were still in the ignition. That kind of
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raised our concern, so we started look into it a
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little deeper. Myself and Mobley made entry into the vehicle
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to try to find a phone number or name of
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someone that we might be able to contact. We did
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end up locating the number with the word mom on it.
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The police department called around midnight. I wanted to know Tift.
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He had a white car, and if I knew where
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she was, I started calling people. I knew that she
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might go to. No one had hard from her, no
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one had seen her. And this is like at two
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o'clock in the morning. So by the time we got
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up here at the car wash, they had everything blocked
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off down deep. You knew that, with all her personal
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belongings in her pit her car, that she had been
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adopted and she was probably not alive.
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A frequent visitor to the car wash is thirty eight
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year old William Reese, who Kathy knows from his time
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in Anadarko.
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He was always in trouble.
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He he stole vehicles, he sold from grocery stores or
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what have you.
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He had been in jail. He'd already been in prison,
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he had just gotten out shortly before this happening.
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So William Reese was born in nineteen fifty nine in Oklahoma,
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and so it was a pretty depressed area that he
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grew up in. He had a difficult upbringing, unstable childhood.
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He was one of thirteen children. He was in foster
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care system for a while. He was forced to quit
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school in the ninth grade and go to work. So
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this is somebody, I think who got a pretty tough
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start in life. There was probably a combination of neglect
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with so many siblings and there being a lot of
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financial instability, and I think it would have been a
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pretty harsh upbringing in a lot of respects. There's a
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lot of suspicions that he was in views at some point.
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Thirteen siblings, a family background, being moved around. You have
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lots of negative risk factors in front of Reece.
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That marriage does not last very long, and doesn't it
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fizzles out pretty quickly because of how we and Raese
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is treating his wife. He's drinking and he's physically abusive
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to her and she ends the relationship. This is somebody who,
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for whatever reason, doesn't respect women, feels entitled to behave However,
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he wants to likely blames everything that's wrong in his
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life on other people, and those are things that do
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not bode well in terms of his relationship with other
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women in the future or his ability to adjust and
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adapt effectively to life as an adult. His ex wife
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said that he was unusually close to his mom, and
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even she'd made the combat at one point that she
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felt like his mom was so protective of him that quote,
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you know, if he kills somebody, she would help him
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hide the body.
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It's one day since Tiffany Dobrie went missing with her
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car left at a Bethany carwash around fifty miles away.
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Oklahoma City police make a gruesome discovery while investigating their
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own missing person's case.
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As they were investigating that scene, they canvassed the area
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and then ended up finding Tiffany's body on that same
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road about one hundred yards down.
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Ask yourself, who did it? Why would someone want to
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kill TiO.
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You didn't think about your friend just getting murdered for
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no reason out in the middle of nowhere like that.
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It just didn't happen.
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The thing that always kind of bothered me the most
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is that Tiffing and Ryan, they just started their lives
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together and within three months it got taken away. If
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they had their full life together, what would have come
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of that?
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And so we went down a list of people for
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the police to check out because we didn't know what
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else to do, and if the first thing that Mama
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thought of to so I can't that it didn't enter
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our minds, because they did. You don't know if he
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was really at work or not. You know, he could
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have took off.
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In any case where you have someone that has disappeared,
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you know, you always you always got to start with
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people that are close and family members. So absolutely he
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was looked at.
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Police soon determined Tiffany was last seen alive shortly after
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six pm on July twenty seventh. Her husband was at
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work from three pm until eleven pm, and is cleared
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of any suspicion. Bethany police conducted a background check on
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local sex offenders, including William Or. They find no evidence
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linking him to the crime scene. Tiffany's mother knows Reese's mother,
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who offers to prepare Tiffany's clothes for her funeral.
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Her name with pat She wasn't a friend, but she
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was an acquaintance because she did my ironing and what
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have you for me?
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And so we.
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Took Tiffany's clothes down to her for her to press
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some for us, because she called and said she would
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do that.
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In nineteen eighty six, he kidnaps a woman and he
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rapes her. And at that point, I think he has
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taken a hard turn in his life, because now he
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is making choices that the vast majority of people would
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never make. He's become a criminal, He's become a predator.
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He was driving a truck and going to pick up
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a load, and he picked her up and rude. Her
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car broke down under a overpass, and he stopped and
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asked if she needed help. He kept on her and
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then she finally agreed and got in the truck with him.
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Reese is arrested but released after posting bail. He a
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tax agan.
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One month later, he rapes one woman while he's awaiting
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trial for raping another one. I don't know how you
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get any more of a definition of a predator than that.
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Both of these victims survive their ordeal and have their
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identities protected. Re stands trial on two counts of rape.
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He has found guilty and sentenced to twenty five years
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in prison.
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For an individual who is inside of a correctional institution
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for years, that day is filled with border. Our environment
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creates our propensity to be involved in crime. Well, just
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think of it. You're surrounded by other people who have
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committed crimes. One learns to associate with certain people. One
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has to protect themselves. Inside of a correctional institution a
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lot of time to think.
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Reese's attorneys claim errors were made during his trial, and
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after serving ten years of his twenty five year sentence,
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convicted rapist, Reese is released early. He briefly lives with
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his mother and Anna Darko before moving seven hours away
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to Houston, Texas.
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My daughter went on a run this morning, and she's
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been gone a lot longer than I perfected, Bob Feather.
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Twelve year old Laura Smither goes for a jog in
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her friends With Texas neighborhood and never returns home.
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I'd never seen anything quite like this before. I mean,
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you had people from everywhere coming out of the woodwork
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for this young girl. They were going through the fields,
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they were searching in bodies of water everywhere.
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Laura's body is found seventeen days later in a retention
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pond in nearby Pasadena.
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That today I will never forget because you had a
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father and son. They were out there, they were training
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a hunting dog. Hunting dog hits on something in the water.
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Father and son go out there to see what's going on.
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And this is the part that I mean, just so chilling,
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because the dad looked at the sun and says, I
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wonder what kind of animal that is? And the son
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looks back at the dad and says, animals don't wear socks.
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William Reese became a suspect early on because he was
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a convicted second out of Oklahoma, and that's fairly standard.
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When you have a child disappear like this, police start
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looking at registered sex offenders in the area. More than that,
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Reese had a construction job near this spot. It got
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rained out the morning Laura disappeared, so he would have
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been going home and that would have put him along
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her route about the time she disappeared. There were fibers
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that were found that matched formats in his truck. The
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fibers were unique, but they weren't so incredibly unique that
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it's like, Okay, these fibers could only possibly have come
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from William Reese's truck. It wasn't unique enough, and honestly,
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fibers are not DNA. A lot of that evidence had
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been destroyed because Laura was left in water.
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This is a twelve year old child, and what that
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tells me is one of two things. Either William Reese
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did not recognize how young she was when he grabbed her.
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I don't believe that. Number two is that this is
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somebody who is sexually interested in this age group and
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is willing to take advantage of an opportunity and rape
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and murder somebody who is that innocent and that young.
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While under police suspicion and within their custody, Reese speaks
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with the Texas News Channel to profess his innocence.
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Who they gonna look at first, an ex con, especially
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if you've done hard time, You're gonna be a number
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one suspect no matter what. And if they can't find nobody,
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you're gonna be their Patsy.
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Sandra sa Paul, a nineteen year old pregnant mother, comes
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face to face with William Reese just south of Houston.
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She goes into a convenience store and she comes out
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of the convenience store. See she has a flat tire.
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A supposed good Samaritan comes along. Oh, let me help
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you out.
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With that tire.
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Boom grabs her, tosses her into the truck, takes off
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down the freeway.
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The fact that William Race acts so quickly after his
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race in prison suggests to me that this is somebody
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who has thought about this and fantasized about this for
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nine years. While behind bars, he tells her to take
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her clothes off. She bends down to take her shoes
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off and notices that the car door is unlocked, and she,
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at that point makes a very important decision.
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This may be my last opportunity. The more secluded, the
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more away, the more the person is going to their
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environment rather than being in my environment, takes the advantage
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away from you.
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I would rather die jumping out of this car and
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leaving my fate in my own hands, than suffer whatever
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is about to happen if I stay with this man.
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The females jumped out of a white duly unknown LP
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left feet headed forty five mark bound.
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She needs an ambulance.
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He can't walk, and.
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We got an anulty.
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With Sandra Now safe. Police begin questioning her, hoping that
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can find her kidnapper before he attacks again. Twenty year
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old Kelly Anne Cox goes missing in Denton, Texas.
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Kelly Cox was a beautiful, single mom college student in
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what is essentially kind of a college town of Denton, Texas.
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She had just wrapped up a school field trip. She
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was studying the area of criminal justice, and she stopped
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at this convenience store and unfortunately that's where she crossed
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paths with William Race. She has vanished into thin air.
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And that's what's again so frightening about all of this.
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It's somewhat mind boggling on the one hand, that William
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Race continues his killing spree after Sandra s Paul manages
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to get out an escape. William Race is so focused
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on finding young women that kind of fit his prototype
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and sexually assaulting them abducting them that he's not even
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concerned about Sandra se Paul. He is thinking about his
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next victim and finding her.
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Kelly Ane Cox's disappearance in Denton, Texas is around three
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hours away from Tiffany and Oklahoma. At the time of
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Tiffany's abduction, Kathy Doughbrie has no idea of these other cases.
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Seventeen year old high school student Jessica Cain goes missing
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near Houston.
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Just like the others, had her entire life ahead of
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her high school student with friends after a school event.
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Jessica was always very well behaved, never violated curfew anything
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like that. So when she didn't come home one time,
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her parents were instantly worried and her truck was found
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parked on the side of Interstate forty five. Like Laura,
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it was like she just fell into a hole in
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the universe, just vanished into thin air. But the truck
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was there, purse was in the front seat, didn't even
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really appear, there was any kind of a struggle. Oh,
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it's terrifying. It's like we have a predator in our neighborhood.
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People in the area were like, who is hunting our children?
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What we have as an apex predator an individual that
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has opportunity combined with skills and additionally being punished for
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the criminal act in the past, but not being deterred.
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I have always thought that the killing part of it
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for him was more pragmatic that I'm not going to
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leave a victim to point their finger at me again.
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My needs are more important than anybody else's, and I'm
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going to make sure that nobody's left to identify me.
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Kathy Doughbray still has no idea who killed her daughter.
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Police have no suspects and don't suspect William Reese is involved.
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But four hundred and fifty miles away in Texas, kidnapp
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survivor Sandra Saypaul is now facing him in a lineup.
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He's being asked to repeat the lines Sandra heard her
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kidnapperor shout you.
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Cannot explain.
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Yet.
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The net is closing around Reese in Texas, but will
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he be linked to the murder of Tiffany Johnston four
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hundred and fifty miles away. Three months after the murder
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of Tiffany Johnston, Sandra Sepaul has identified William Reese as
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her kidnapper four hundred and fifty miles away in Texas.
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As authorities gather evidence to prosecute him, the owner of
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the Sunshine car wash where Tiffany was last seen, recognizes
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Reese in news reports. He tells Oklahoma police that Reese
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is a frequent customer, but investigators still have no way
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of linking Reese to the crime.
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We checked people that lived in the area that had
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serious criminal histories, and none of those came to fruition.
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No forensic evidence at that time, and there weren't cameras
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in that area that we could rely on for evidence purposes.
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So it truly came to where we believed whoever committed
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this came from outside of the community.
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Bethany Police passed the case to the Oklahoma State Bureau
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of Investigation, but still no leads. Nine months passed by,
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and Tiffany's mother, Kathy Dobrie, makes a solemn vow.
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We had lots of redbirds around that day and were
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we live is American Indians, and I'm Party Indians, and
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we believe in the redbirds. When the redbirds come to
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see you as a visit from your loved one from heaven.
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I told her that I would find who murdered her
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and get justice for her because.
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What just wasn't right. They took away my youngest child.
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If something were to ever happen to anyone in my
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immediate family, Kathy is the first person I'm calling to
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start looking into it. She does not know how to
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give up, She does not quit, and she knew that
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one day we would get there. We just didn't know when.
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Each anniversary of Tiffany's murder is met with an eerie coincidence.
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Every year, on Tiffany's anniversary date, which is July the
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twenty sixth, there would be little necklaces, bracelets, and we'd
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gather these up. We didn't touch them. We put on
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gloves like you're supposed to, and would give them to
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the OSBI.
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It was concern of members of the department, and I
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think it's part of the family that the suspect might
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have been the one leaving these trinkets.
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They would just show up every year at the same time,
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and nobody would ever own up to putting them there.
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Cathy's dogged determination finally gets results in her daughter's cold case.
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Advanced DNA testing is performed using the evidence collected from
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Tiffany's body. It reveals a partial profile of her killer.
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Investigators compare this to DNA swabs from her ex boyfriend's husband, colleagues,
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and even patron seen at the car wash the day
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of her murder. All are excluded. Yet to be tested
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is Anadarko resident. William Lewis Reese, a known sex offender
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and frequent visitor to the car wash. Police also look
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for a link between Tiffany's killing and the crimes and
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Texas and realize a striking connection the inner State forty
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five corridor.
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A perfect formula does come together to allow these criminal
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activities to take place. Access very important. So here you
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have an area south of Houston, Texas before the very
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end in Galveston, and which one can be on the
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Interstate Highway and quickly be in another state or another
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part of this huge state of Texas very quickly.
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In many respects, Texas is a serial killer's dream. You
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can go for miles and miles without seeing anybody. There's
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actually a part of Texas that is infamous for being
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called the Texas Killing Fields because they discovered about thirty
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bodies of young women there that have been unsolved.
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Now we have a pattern, we have something to actually
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look at. So from this solid we have other cases
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that we can study along with ours to help get
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closure for all of them.
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It's a horribly frightening thing, especially as a father of two,
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to think that there are humans out there that walk
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around look at another human, go I want that. I'm
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going to take that, and they do.
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By January twenty fourteen, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation
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is closing in on suspected serial killer William Lewis Reese
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and seeks to obtain his DNA. Reese is easy to locate.
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He was successfully convicted for the kidnap of Sandra Say
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Paul and is serving a sixty years sentence in a
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Texas prison.
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Sandra Say Paul is the reason the murders stopped. I
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give her an amazing amount of credit because she was
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brave enough to escape him, and she was brave enough
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to never ever waver or never be intimidated, never be
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too scared to identify him, and stick through that all
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the way to the end. He was convicted and the
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only reason no one else was murdered is because he
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went to prison, and that was because of Sandra Sea Paul.
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Authority Swabbreeese for his DNA and compare it to the
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partial profile taken from Tiffany's body. The results indicate Reese
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could be the killer.
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We believed that he was probably the person that did it.
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It was just finding that link to be able to
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put it all together. You want to do everything you
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can to find that link, and I mean, look it
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took a decade for that link to finally come to fruition.
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Texas authorities discover another critical clue as they investigate the
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link between Reese and Tiffany's murder long distance phone cards.
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So he had these cards and he used one of
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them to make a phone call, and that was still
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in his truck when friends with police impounded it, and
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that wound up being some very key evidence that Oklahoma
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authorities used.
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Investigators go to William Rees and basically let him know
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that the gig is up and that you know, they
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have DNA linking him to Tiffany Johnston. And I think
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that at this point William Reese is somewhat panicked because
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he is well aware of the fact that Oklahoma has
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the death penalty, and so he is in prison in
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Texas at this point, and so I think he decided
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that if I'm cooperative with some of these other unsolved murders,
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perhaps I can avoid the death penalty in Texas and
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won't be extradited to Oklahoma to potentially face the death
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penalty there.
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With this new information linking Reese to Tiffany's murder as
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a bargaining tool, investigators questioned Reese about the murders of
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Laura Smither, Kelly Anne Cox, and Jessica Kain. He reveals
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where police can find the bodies of Jessica Kin and
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Kelly Ane Cox. His cooperation means Reese won't face the
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death penalty for these murders.
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He's a chess player. He knows how to use his ponds.
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He knows how to use his pieces, which pieces to sacrifice,
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when to get what he wants. And I feel that
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he has used his victims as those pieces and played
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them against law enforcement to gain favors. And I don't
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think that we will ever know how many of those
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pieces he has held.
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Back to play later.
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There's no reason to believe that there are not more
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that are out there. This is where further investigation can
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take place. But then there becomes a question for the individual.
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How much more information am I going to give you?
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If I'm already here for the rest of my life,
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what advantage do I have.
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Reese doesn't confess to any other murders. He claims he
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accidentally hit Laura Smither while she was jogging along the
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side of the road.
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I pick I even really real backwards, put her in
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a slowboard a trip on the pass your side and
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the horde like getting a lad the door.
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Took off.
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I don't remember now. I got out from where I
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was some danger park lady in the porter, and I
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went home.
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Reese doesn't say anymore about Kelly an Cox, just that
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he got into an altercation with her at a convenience store.
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Opened up my door, boom, I run right into her.
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Coke went all over me and we got into a chair,
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and she hit me with a coke. When I hit her,
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she hit her head. You know how your door opens up.
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Her head hit darre she slipped back.
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She's out.
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I put her in the back seat. She never woke up.
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She wouldn't breathe or nothing. She never woke up, and
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I dug me at the little home put.
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Her in in.
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Reese confessed, but they were carefully crafted confessions to where
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he upheld his end of the bargain that I'll tell
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you what happened. But he never really fully told police
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what he did.
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When you listen to his confessions or you hear his confessions,
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it's just it's just amazing how he just storts clearly
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what happened. They'll talk about murdering somebody, but they won't
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admit to assault sexual assault for some reason, or they'll
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do what a lot of murderers do, which is fine
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ways to what we psychologists called neutralize their actions. So
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that might mean blaming the victim, which he definitely did.
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You know, Oh, this person started it. We got into
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a match. You know this person, we got into some
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kind of argument about spilling coke on me. I can't
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think of a better description of somebody who has no compassion, empathy,
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or caring for his victims. They truly are objects for
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him to fulfill his sexual fantasies.
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Reese also claims an argument ensued with Tiffany Johnston at
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the car wash.
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Next thing I know, this girl is yelling at me
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that sprager. I don't think it's sprager, but she's cussing
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in everything. That's when I grabbed you around throat, he choking.
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She wouldn't move no more, and I shut the door
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and I backed out.
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They tried out such funny victims.
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I don't think so Okay, I guess.
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I don't think something kind of opens up.
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I mean, where spoil I mean for I know.
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Now My bow was to find who murdered her and
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get justice for her.
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William Reese is convicted of the kidnapping and first degree
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murder of Tiffany Johnston. He is sentenced to death.
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The day that we got our conviction on Reese, the
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redbirds were lined up outside our house on the light pole,
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off the way across the line, and.
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They were everywhere.
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Tiffany knew then that mama got justice.
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I'm persistent and.
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Like I said, she was my baby, and I made
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her a promise and I carried it out.
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He was ice cold, arrogant. When they showed the pictures
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of his victims' bodies of what he had done, he
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would smile and lick his lips.
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Kidney gave her live.
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To help the parents in Texas bring some closure to them,
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because if it hadn't have been for Tiffany's case, Texas
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wouldn't have had anything.
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Rees accepts a plea deal, and in addition to his
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current sentence for Sandra Sapau's kidnapping, he is sentenced to
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a further three life terms in a Texas prison for
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the murders of Jessica Cain, Kelly an Cox, and Laura Smither.
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William Reese is currently serving his prison sentences in Texas.
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So he still owes the state of Texas time for
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Sandra Sapau's kidnapping, and now for the murders of Laura,
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00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:58.079
Jessica and Kelly Ann. There's an appeal process in Oklahoma.
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My sneaking suspicion is when he runs out of appeals
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in Oklahoma and they actually set a date for his execution,
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he will be extra guided back.
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We got justice for Tiffany in the court system. That
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he's getting to do what he wants to. He can
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go to the library, he can work on it, horseshoes, leather,
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00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.320
or whatever he wants to do. And that's not justice
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for Tiffany. How could someone that I run across knew
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his mom?
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How could he have done that?
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Kathy suspects it was Reese's mother, Patsy leaving trinkets on
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Tiffany's grave.
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There's not a doubt in my mind that it was her,
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because I think she felt guilty because she knew that
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what her son had murdered Tiffany, and so that was
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her way of being at peace with the idea that
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she wouldn't talk to the police or wouldn't tell them.
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Every year, you could guarantee there would be something out there,
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and even to this day, woulden't. Tiffany's anniversary date comes around,
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we always check on the twenty six to see if
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anything has been placed on Tiffany's grave that we don't know,
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and nothing has showed up.
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Since Pat Diyed.
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I just want to know why we haven't been able
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to bring him back. I want to know why the
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DA will not sign off to have him brought back
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and put on death row. He took my friend, he
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took one of the best people I've ever known in
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my life, and he robbed the world of something great.
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I don't know what her plans were after college, but
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whatever they were, she was going to be great at it.
