CHRISTOPHER NOËL EXPLAINS THE MYSTERIES OF SASQUATCH | THE SCIENCE OF SASQUATCH

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All right, Chris, Welcome to Sasquatch Theory. It's an absolute
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pleasure to have you on the show. How are you
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doing today, Christopher.
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I'm doing great here in northern Vermont. It's a gorgeous
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eighty five degree day, and I'm really happy and honored
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to be on with you. I've admired your work over
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the years, your long form deep dives on the ground
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investigations with the experiencers, and how you don't just settle
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for the sort of headlines, but you go, you dig
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down as far as you can. And so I'm hoping
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to learn as much from you today as anything I
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might have to convey from now. You've you've amassed this
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inventory of different angles that people have put on their
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experience and what kind of kind of ongoing understanding, evolving
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understanding we can get with their help. You know, it
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started with me too, interviewing people at habituation sites. For
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a long time, or for a couple of years, I
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was going around on expeditions with the BFROL, and whatever
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people may think of the BFROL, it's filled with hundreds
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of dedicated, sincere, credible, honest researchers, and I went around
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with those guys for like seven different expeditions in the
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first eighteen months, all over North America, and the best
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part was just talking to them about their experiences and
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what they gained over the years. And I found out
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that there was such a thing as habituation sites, and
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so that seemed to be a more feasible route to
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learning more about the species than simply going out to
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spots with a history of sightings and making knocks in
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the middle of the night, which itself is exciting when
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you get But back in those early days two thousand
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and six, you had sort of chat rooms on the Internet,
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and there were some with habituators who were sharing comparing notes,
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and I managed to weasel my way in there, even
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though I was not an habituator myself, but as a
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researcher and a writer, and I started visiting some of them,
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including this woman in East Texas where in two thousand
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and eight I was lucky enough to get a thermal
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to obtain thermal footage of a sasquatch crouching behind a
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woodpile watching us at a bonfire, and that that video
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is called Woodpile Sasquatch. I'most the perfect title, and it's
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on YouTube, if anyone's interested in. I had had this
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little It is the kind of thermal before before thermal
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cameras were better and more affordable, all I could get
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was for twenty four hundred dollars this little cube cubicle
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camera that was supposed to go on cars, you know,
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so that you could point it forward and you could
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see deer better than you could in your headlights, farther
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away than you could. And so I was just kind
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of limited to panning this around the tree line. So
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every couple of minutes, I would step away from the
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bonfire where a bunch of us were roasting hamburgers, and
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I would scan the tree line, and there's a little viewfinder,
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and I saw a horizontal bar of light, which means heat.
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And I thought, well, that's that's probably just a stone
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or a piece of metal that absorbed heat during the
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day and still radiating heat. And of course I was
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looking for an enormous upright heat signature hiding behind a tree,
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so I didn't think anything of it. It wasn't until I
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got back home and looked at the footage and adjusted
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the contract that I saw that it was an arm
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sticking out like this and kind of going like that
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a few times, and then two eyes hot hot, white
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hot eyes looking out within a kind of opening in
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the woodpile, spying on us, as we know that Sasquich
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like to do, especially people are on fires, just because
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they like people watching, just like we would hope to
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like sasquatch watching, but we don't get to very often.
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You have, I have, and I've filmed them three times,
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but I've never filmed them knowing at that, I've never,
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let's say, see them with my own eyes. I've only
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seen them through a camera and really only later looking
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at the footage. So you've been lucky enough to see
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him in real time. So anyway, why did I start
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telling that story. You didn't ask me for my history,
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but I went into that.
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I definitely want to hear about the encounters and experiences.
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And yeah, I agree that the bf RORO does thorough work.
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I think they've gained a bad reputation by several members
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that maybe may not be too appealing to the rest
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of the big the community. But you get that anywhere
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you go, whether you're it's true in the classroom or
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at work, you're going to have people that you don't like.
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And I think that's how it is with the bf
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r O because there's so many members. But I've met
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a lot of good people in the bf RRO, and
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they're actually getting out there.
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Oh yeah, they go. I mean they drop the drop
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of a hat, they get a report, they go out there.
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Two or three of them go out there, and they
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have experience being able to separate the week from the
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chaff in terms of credibility of witnesses and searching around
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for the for the most persuasive evidence that they can
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find on site, and if there's any recordings, usually audio recordings,
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sometimes video anyway, So then I was going being in
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touch with folks at habituation sites, and luckily they shared
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with me. Six families shared with me their testimonials of
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the family's experience over the years, sometimes generations, with their
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local Sasquatch group. And I put that into a book
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called Our Life with Bigfoot, and I was very happy
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to have been able to do so, because that a
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lot of people who are living on these kind of
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spots where the humans and the are next of kin,
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our kindred spirit, the Sasquatch people are becoming a little
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bit less alienated from each other and a little more comfortable.
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They don't come out usually directly. Everything is indirect and fleeting,
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and usually at night. But there's a little bit of
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a dropping of the guard so that there can be
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more learning back and forth. And many of these places
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were experiencing mind speak. So the woman in East Texas
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was able to be in touch mentally with a female
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sasquatch member of her local group, and her group the
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local group that would sometimes make their presence known. And
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she first started that by a friend of hers was
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a very gifted, psychically gifted man, and he said, you
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know you can talk to you can talk to the locals.
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In fact, I know that on one of the sasquatch
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that comes near you is named Nantaya, and you can
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just call her name in your mind. And so my
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friend was like, well, thanks, try it, and she was
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sort of scared to but a few days later, at
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one point she just said Nantaya in her mind and
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she heard instantly, she heard what I kind of annoyed.
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And after that she was able to converse with this individual.
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And I didn't one hundred percent accept it right out
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of the out of the block, because I've got healthy skepticism,
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like any of us should, but in visiting her several
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times there in East Texas, my skepticism was chipped away
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until one morning, after after many pretty persuasive data points,
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that she really was in touch with this, this other
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mind in the woods. This was one one morning I
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was about to leave for the airport, and it was
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twenty eleven in July, and Texas has been having a
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terrible heat wave, maybe not as bad as we have today,
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but everything was brown and it was one hundred degrees
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and she couldn't afford to run her air conditioner the
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whole time inside her house. That we for that whole
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week we sat outside a lot, just trying to be
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still and drinking sweet tea, and so we hadn't heard
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any wood knocks in the daytime, just at night. So
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this was in the morning and I said to her,
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my friend, I said, can you Tellnantia that I'm about
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to leave and goodbye and thank you? And would she'd
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be able to make any goodbye sounds for me? And
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my friend looked up into space as she would do
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when she was in touch, and she said, she says
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to wait, And so I was thinking, yeah, sure, it's
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not going to within ten seconds, maybe one hundred feet
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inside the woods, which is too dense to see through.
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You hear bam wood knock, and at that moment, like
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you compare it those really loud wood knocks to like
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a home run. At that moment, Mark McGuire swatted the
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last of my skepticism over the fence in a way,
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and I knew it was it was the case. And
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then in the wake of that revelation, I pursued a
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lot of other folks who'd had experiences with mind speaking.
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Was able to put together a book called Mind's Speak.
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If anyone's interested out there twenty different testimonials of people's
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spiritual psychic connection with their locals and the evidence that
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they they have received that it's real and not they're
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not just going bonkers, including Les Stroud, who has had
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this and he was so afraid that for his mental
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health when he heard them when they said to him.
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This was in Tennessee when he was going out with
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Scott Carpenter, another late great figure in our field. Less
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was by himself at this point and he heard, if
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you want to see us go to the next hill.
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He heard it clear as clear as and he's talked
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about this publicly you may have heard that. And he
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sat down and he said, I'm not ready, and he
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didn't go there, but he was so freaked out because
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you know the difference. I've never been lucky enough to
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experience mind speak, but apparently you know the difference. It's
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utterly different from your own thoughts. And we're very familiar
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with how our own thoughts manifest in our head, and
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this is completely different. And so he went to a
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psychiatrist when he got back to find out if he
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was schizophrenic or something, because it was so real and
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so adberant, so atypical for him. And I know he's
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perfectly healthy. Just that he was receiving telepathic messages. And
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they can do that. I think that they're much more
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spiritually adept psychically adept than we are. And I think
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that just as and then I'll let you talk. I
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think that just as some of us our speeches when
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we die, some of us can read manifest very briefly
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and very locally back here at this frequency level, density level,
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high density, low frequency down here, which is how I
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see things. I don't know if you do. We can
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manifest and be visible and even palpable. We can touch
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people I've been touched by a ghost, invisible ghost on
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the side of the head, many years ago. I think
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Sasquat's just as they're much more advanced than we are
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in terms of telepathy. I think they're more advanced in
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terms of re manifesting after they've transcended their flesh and
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blood body. And I think that perhaps many of the
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ones that people encounter are dead ones. I think that
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could be why the well earned reputation is such as
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it is for being uncapturable, very difficult to get on film,
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and impossible to shoot and kill, although of course we've
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heard stories about that, but I think that most I
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think it's possible that most of them, perhaps the great majority, are,
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are spiritual, but that doesn't mean the entire species is spiritual,
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as some claim. I think they're flesh and blood ones
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because we find their their feces, we find people see
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their babies. You've seen a young one. Many people see
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young ones. They hunt, they kill deer and eat them
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and leave. You know, all the hallmarks of a flesh
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and blood species are there. So I think that they're
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both flesh and blood, and they can return much more
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readily than we can, and they can maintain their group
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even though many of them are dead. That might be
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an implausible proposal by me for some of our listeners,
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But that's that's what I think, that's my working hypothesis
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right now.
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Yeah, absolutely, at the end of speech, Okay, Yeah, I
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feel like that's very plausible theory. And I've wondered the
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same that in the same way a house can be haunted,
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people can be visited by loved ones that have passed away.
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Could it be possible that out in the woods there
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are sasquatchs that have passed away, and they appear invisible
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or cloaked, or they communicate to people through mind speak
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or telepathy, whatever you want to call it. And I've
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had two different experiences in the woods with the mind speak,
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and I didn't hear an audible voice. But I'll tell
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you about one of the experiences. I was out there
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looking for that little juvenile that I encountered, and I
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was walking all over the woods all day long, and
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I thought to myself, Man, I haven't found anything. I
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haven't even heard a wood knock. As soon as I
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think that in my mind, boom, loud, powerful woodknock, And
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like you said, Mark, Maguire answered the call right there,
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and that's happened two different times. Could it be a coincidence? Possibly,
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But as soon as I think in my mind, I
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don't say it out loud.
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I haven't heard a wood knock boom. It's like they know, oh.
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I mean, it's it's all about consciousness, and their consciousness
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is more vivid and robust somehow than our consciousness is.
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I think we're we're more thoroughly embodied in this meat suit.
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can can allow their consciousness to be as expensive as
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the average sequatch consciousness is. But they can read, they
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can they can decide to to draw us out consciousness.
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Why so that we can be in touch with them.
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I mean, if you're fortunate enough to have that susceptibility
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or you know, potent. I've tried. I've been out in
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the woods even when I know they're nearby, and I've
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talked to them in my head and I don't get
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anything back. I think my head is made out of
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stone or something. I don't think good at it. But
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you what about some of the people You've you've investigated
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their stories, how many of them have experienced mind speak.
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Are they embarrassed to talk about it until you tell
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them that many others have experienced it.
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I've had people on the channel before Lockdown reports regarding
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mind speak, but a majority of them do not want
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to come on the podcast because they're well aware that
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they're going to be ridiculed and made fun of. And
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not all of them are pleasant experiences. A lot of
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people claim that they heard a voice in their head
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that says, get out, get out now, and they either
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hear the name of the Sasquatch it has some foreign
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native name that they can't really understand. But a lot
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of people were terrified because shortly after the mind speak
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they encountered a huge male Sasquatch and it wasn't happy.
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Yeah, that's, of course the flip side of this whole thing.
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It's not all blue skies and sunshine. We certainly know
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that well enough from from many many witness encounter testimonials.
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You described, especially with regard to that that early one
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early encounter of yours with the jet black one with
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the white stripes down its back and as he walked away,
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he or she it was silent, and that's very very
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commonly described. So there's it's like the reality you're it's
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like you're outside of ordinary reality. Some describe it as
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being like inside a bell jar, where there's kind of
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this this vacuum feeling. You feel heavy, your ears sometimes pop.
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People have measured that, and in relation especially to haunted houses.
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And the barometric pressure will drop, there will be cold suddenly,
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and people actually objectively mentioned that the drop in temperature
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and barometric pressure. And there'll be statical electricity. And as
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I'm sure you know and many of doesn't in your audience,
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people will feel their hair stand on end even before
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they know to be afraid and said, why am I
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And then they'll realize they're they're in a situation that realize,
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you know, it's on, something is happening, but the statical
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electricity affects them first before before their their awareness catches up.
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And I think I have a new book called The
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Anatomy of Thin Air where I go into and I'm
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not going to go into it much here because it's
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it gets pretty in the weeds and people will be
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falling asleep. But uh, what an endorsement for this book? Huh? Yeah,
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if you really have insomnia, I buy this book. But
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I go into a hypothesis about consciousness where it's not
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you know, some people think that consciousness just comes from
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the brain, and some people think the consciousness is fundamental
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and gives rise to all of reality, all of physical reality.
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And I think that consciousness instead is a level of
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physical reality of a high frequency level, high energy level.
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It's just as real, but no more real than the
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other levels of reality. It just interplays with them. And
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I think that when a UFO comes down or appears
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out of nowhere, aliens appear, or sasquatch suddenly is on hand,
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or a spirit visits in a haunted house or anywhere,
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these environmental changes are very consistently noted. And this British
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author named Jenny Randalls has books and she has coined
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the term the os factor, where it's like you're not
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in Kansas anymore, You're in a different reality. And I
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think that when any of these paranormal high strangeness events occur,
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the ratio the normal ratio of consciousness to the rest
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of the atmosphere in a very local area gets shifted.
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The ratio of constouness is higher. And since consciousness in
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my view, and I won't keep on about it is
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physical and energetic, not some immaterial like beyond, but rather
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a concrete force of nature. I think that when it
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expands itself in a spot, it throws off the usual
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state of affairs, the balance. The usual balance is upset,
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and there are these electromagnetic and thermodynamic effects out of that.
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the theories that if you think the consciouness is just
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out of brain, or the consciousness is everything, either of
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these monolithic ideas doesn't account for these these very concrete
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effects that happen. I think because there's a clash of different,
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different levels, different versions of reality, all within the same spot.
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And I think that the static electricity, for instance, and
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of course we all know the Bigfoot curse, where electronic
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equipment goes haywire, our batteries get drained. Same thing happens
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in haunted houses, same thing happens when UFOs come down,
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aliens come into somebody's room at night. You're in You're
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not in Kansas anymore. And I think that that the
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heavy static electricity feeling is from what's called ionization, where
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the electrons get stripped from the atoms and that that's
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a very well known phenomenon, but I think that this
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clash of versions of reality is what stripped them. And
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then you have ions which are just free, free electrons
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that aren't attached to any atom, and they are in
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the air and everything becomes like this charged soup or fog,
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and that contributes to the strangeness of these oz factor events.
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So anyway, that that came up when you said that
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that the woods went silent, even though normally it's like
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walking on you say, corn flakes, corn flakes, and of
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course anywhere where there's woods, especially even if no matter
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what time of year, but especially if it's fall. I
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don't yours was in the summertime. But you're gonna you're
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gonna step on sticks, all kinds of little sticks and
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leaves and underbrush. It's gonna make noise. But so many people,
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it's so consistent that there's like this sudden bubble of silence.
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I can get smart for those old enough to remember.
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Or there's the the cone of silence that comes down
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over over characters in that in that show, and this
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is the same thing. It's a cone of silence. The
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very reality, the very stuff of reality gets shifted into
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a whole different mode or style, a whole different style
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of existence, and it's short lived, usually just a couple
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of minutes. And time changes too. That's why people have
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missing time experiences, not just in alien encounters, but in
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sasquorts encounters too, and I imagine in ghost encounters, though
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I can't remember specifics on that, but so it's so
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fundamental this shift that even time is affected. You said
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that when you were looking at that excuse me, looking
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at that that little.
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Guy, that.
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Very robust little guy behind the tree, and he and
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he came out, and he didn't realize you were looking
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at him. It was like time slowed down and you
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can see the individual hairs blowing in the wind. And
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that's the thing. I mean. Part of that is just
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when there's like a a traumatic experience, think someone's in
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an automobile accident, they say time slows down.
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Some part of it is just that you're in shock,
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but because of people's missing time reports, I think it's
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also the time itself gets altered. And yeah, so can
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you remember anything that seems to resonate with that sort
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of that sort of description in in some of your
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interviews with people you've you've investigated.
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Yeah, I've interviewed several people that claim they encountered orbs
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or balls of light out in the woods and they
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had missing time, or they teleported some somewhere else, they
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ended up somewhere else in the world.
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Well, really, that's very similar to alien abductions, right.
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Yeah, yeah, that's very similar, and in comparison with Mike
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to my encounters, I never thought about it that way.
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That time stood still, the cone of silence, and I
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do remember looking at that little juvenile and everything went
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in slow motion. And I'm sure the encounter only lasted
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five to eight seconds, but it felt like anywhere from
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two to five minutes. But when he realized that was there,
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it's like time picked back up, and then he quickly
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hid behind the tree and everything went back to normal,
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and the adult sasquatch. I never thought about it that way.
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I always just thought it was the pads on their feet,
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and that's why I couldn't hear it.
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I think it's got to be more than that, because
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you know, they're sitting there weighing four hundred pounds, no
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matter how soft their feet are, if they're coming down
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on sticks and branches, you know, you can go for
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a few feet and fortunate be fortunate not to encounter
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a sticker a branch, but not for long whole trackway,
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you know, going to do that. And plus it goes
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along with people saying that the birds stop, the insects stop,
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everything around is quiet. Even the wind sometimes goes still.
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And I think that's because this atmospheric I think that
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when when Anyway, I don't want to keep talking about
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that because I'll go on too long. But to my
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new book that title again, Oh thank you for asking
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the anatomy of thin air. But about invisibility, okay, I
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never believed, No, I did not believe I was. I was,
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you know, I try to be intelligently on the fence
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about it. And you hear over the years, the more
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people you talk to, the more times people say, and
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I heard these footsteps and they were coming ten feet
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away and there were no obstructions. That I turned around
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and there was no one there. You know, this happens
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in ghost experiences too, but in sasquat in the context Sasquatch,
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that same woman in East Texas, at whose house I
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managed to capture that thermal footage of that sad squash,
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which it turned out to be the same one that
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she was in touch with in her mind, and she
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was horrified that she had been captured on film. She says,
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I am, I am in big trouble because the group
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was hopist at her for getting captured on film. She
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thought she was safe behind that woodpile. Anyway, that's a sidebar,
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But that very same woman was riding in a car
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with another friend of hers who I interviewed in person,
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who's in my book, Our Life with Bigfoot. Those two
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women were both driving down the road near the site
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of the woodpile sadsquatch encounter, and they saw a sadsquatch
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come out from the woodline, go half across the road
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and then disappear dis a freaking peer for real. And
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they knew it wasn't just first of all, they both
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saw it at the same time, luckily. And second of all,
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they could tell it wasn't just some effect of like
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electromagnetism on their vision because the whole scene was continuous.
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There wasn't like a break. And then they realized, wait,
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you know, ten seconds have gone by her minute. It
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was a continuous flow of experience and it was just
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this object the SAS quest that had disappeared, So I thought, well,
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she's not. She's never lied to me before. Everything she
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said when I was in touch with her, long before
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I ever visited her. Everything she said ended up being
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corroborated by my experience when I went down there, So
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this too, no reason that would be out of keeping
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with her track record of accuracy in report and reporting.
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And then finally I lost my virginity. That's another story.
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Now.
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I lost my virginity with regard to invisibility on May second,
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twenty twenty one, when I was out walking in the woods,
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in the woods that I had found structures in and
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camped out and had trees pushed down thirty feet away,
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pitch dark and wood knocks and such. But it was
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during the day. It was two o'clock in the afternoon,
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broad daylight, sixty five degrees, so it wasn't the case
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of trees snapping in the cold, like you know if
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it gets down to three degrees. It was perfectly moderate afternoon,
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and I hear woodknock not twenty feet in front of me,
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and there's nothing there, obvious obvious would knock, And if
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it was just one I would think some kind of quirky,
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fluky aberration of that tree. You know, they creak sometimes
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even if there's not a breeze. But three of them
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I heard, and they were all within direct proximity of me,
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and I got a little slice of this experience on camera,
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though it's not very satisfying. But I have a video
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called Invisible Woodknocks, which kind of as best I could,
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it chronicles that moment. But I mean, I'd never heard
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anyone else have the same kind of experience. I might
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think that they could that it was a woodknock by
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an actual concrete individual, and somehow it was throwing the sound,
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you know, like crickets throw their voice, but it was
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it's too much falls in line with so many reports
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that I've heard of people seeing nothing and hearing a lot,
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and I think they can be invisible. And I almost
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hate to say it because he is a divisive figure,
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but I think that, yes, Mike Patterson is genuine with
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regard to his invisibility claims.
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I have.
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He has. I have a video called, oh darn it,
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what's it called. I'll put it in the show. I'll
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give it to you. You can stick in the show notes,
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But it's and it's on Mike Patterson's Channel two, but
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it's one out of a hundred videos that he has
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where he and his partner Dwayne are out on a
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winter's night at three in the morning and only their
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tracks are around, and then Duayne says, did you look
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at that? And right behind them a sixteen inch perfect
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toes single print and so many other people have seen
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single prints, just one print. Obviously, a sasgage gets way bigger.
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It's got five toes. I think they like to prank
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us like that. And I think that it's invisible. I
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think that consciousness is inherently invisible, and then it can
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become visible briefly, or it could interact with the physical
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world briefly. And I think that's what they do sometimes
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when they're in their trickster mood, their mischievous mood. And
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you know a friend of mine, a good friend of mine,
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Jeff Shepherd in Massage. He's a BFRO investigator. He was
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shoved in the back in Sasquat's territory and I was
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turned around and of course there's no one there. He said,
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alrighty then, And he also has the most persuasive account
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of seeing eye eye glow not eyeshine reflection, but eye
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glow that I've ever heard, and I have that on
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YouTube too, called the perennial question eyeshine versus eye glow
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And by the way, my YouTube channel is impossible visits so.
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And I think that the eye glow is not just
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kind of like bioluminescence like jellyfish or what are some
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other's Lots of marine animals and some fungus have that.
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I think it's I think it's because, as I was
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saying before, the consciousness is energy of its own. It's
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not not matter energy, because then it wouldn't be able
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to interact with the physical world. If it's something completely different,
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I think. I think it's a level of the electromagnetic
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spectrum that can change its frequency when it needs to.
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When I think the eyeglow is actually consciousness closer to
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the surface, more powerful than our consciousness, and I think
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that's why our eyes don't glow. And there's du could
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be obviously wrong about this and any number of things.
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I'm saying. Most most people who put forward little theories,
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pet theories hypotheses are wrong. And you know, we just
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throw spaghetti at the wall and see what well sticks.
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I guess you have to say at that point, but
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what can get corroborated by evidence as you collected over
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the years, and what seems to fall to one side
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of the evidence, and then you have to revise your hypothesis.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely, And it's good to see people thinking outside of
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the box instead of just being like, oh, it's a
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demon without having any evidence to prove that, and you're
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thinking scientifically, which I really really like. Do you think
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our thoughts, every experience that has ever been, every experience
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that has happened on this planet is kind of out
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there in the universe and people can tap into it,
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like Tesla or Albert Einstein. Do you think there's like
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a universal hard drive within the universe and the sasquatch
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could possibly be able to obtain that information and interact
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with it. What are your thoughts about them?
533
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I do think so. You know, some call it the
534
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:34.519
Acastick record and many names for it, and I think, again,
535
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it's consciousness. I think consciousness is contains all information. This
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is why remote viewing is possible. I think that, as
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I was saying, if consciousness is a high frequency, high
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energy level of reality, that means also its capacity to
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carry information is that much higher, because the higher the frequency.
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The.
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Greater the and with just in nature in general, like
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gamma rays are the highest that we can measure with
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our machines, our instruments. I don't think we can't measure
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yet a consciousness level, but gamma rays are are measurable,
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and they're a trillion get this, a trillion times more
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energetic than radio waves, which is what we usually use
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for technology communication, computers and and such. So it can
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theoretically it could contain, it could carry it trillion times
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more information, you know. That's that's like the contents of
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the Library of Congress and the blink of an eye.
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And if consciousness is even higher, it would have to
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be higher because remote viewers, for example, can just tune
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in as though they're tuning into their own mind. Because
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our minds, our consciousness are continuous. With consciousness at large,
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there's no there's no there's no necess there is separation.
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So a remote viewer can be given a series of
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six digits, and these numbers correspond to something that they
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don't they haven't been told. And this is the good ones.
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This is the absolute cream of the crop. But if
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it's possible for even one remote people to do this.
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It proves the nature of reality. So you get six digits,
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and these the digits correspond, let's say, to a secret
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document in North Korea. In some safe you can look
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at these and you can tune in to that information
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to the frequency level that corresponds to that document. Just
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based on these numbers, people I was thinking, now it's
567
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.840
impossible look into remote viewing. There's tons of books out
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00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:51.480
there and the YouTube interviews and lectures and chapter and
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verse of how this has been done. It's perfectly legitimate.
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It didn't used to be accepted as much as it
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is today, but it's pretty much consensus and parapsychologists, even
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those who wouldn't accept such things as life after death,
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that both telepathy and remote viewing are authentic. So I
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think that information as such. There are people who can
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say who've never been to your house and can say,
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go to your book the bookshelf in your living room
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and go to the third shelf down in the fifteenth
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00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.599
book from the left, and it's red. Take it out
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and on page two eighteen you'll see a reference to
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golden retrievers. And it's not always one hundred percent. It
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might be the word retrieve or something gold. But they
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00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:47.000
can repeatedly do this, and that's not even just viewing something.
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Because the book is shot and it's in the dark.
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It's information as such. And I can't explain, No one
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00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:55.679
can yet explain how in the hell this is possible.
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But it seems like all information is contained in information
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frequencies that consciousness is has available to it. And I've
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looked into this, and it's the case that there's no
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there's no limit to the number of frequencies that there are.
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It's infinite. There's no upper limit after gamma. So that's
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where I park consciousness in my hypothesis, and there's no
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lower limit, and there's no limit between. Just like between
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the number one and two, there's an infinite number of numbers,
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real numbers. You keep chopping in into smaller and smaller
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and smaller and smaller, and there's no theoretical limit to that.
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So I think that that North Korean document is contained
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00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:42.039
here just as much as it's contained in North Korea.
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I don't think that their mind is going to North
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Korea and searching around. Go in this office and now
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let's not it go over here. I think it's that
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it's information as such is available, is accessible to our consciousness.
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And I think of the quote by Rout the poet
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Roomy says, you are not just the drop in the
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mighty ocean, but the mighty ocean in the drop. And
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it's this that we all share that some very rare,
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very gifted individuals can show us is the repository of
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all information. And one last example is INGOs Swan is
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like the father of modern remote viewing. Even though remote
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00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.880
viewing goes back to ancient times, you can find references
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00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.280
to it. The Ingo Swan remote viewed Jupiter and he
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00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:33.159
saw a ring, two rings around Jupiter, and he said
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what they were made of? And stain scientists just scoffed
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at him, because there's no rings around Jupiter. Do you
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mean Saturn? No Jupiter? And a few years later they
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00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.840
sent the voyager probes out there, and indeed, who are
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rings around Jupiter? They can only then be seen. So
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not just on Earth. That we have access to people
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remote through the Moon and Mars and have all kinds
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of revelations doesn't mean they're all accurate. But I think
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in principle it's possible to do that. So yes, the
621
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answer to your question. The short answer is yes, I
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do think.
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So, yeah, question no, but my mind is totally blown.
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And yeah, I mean even like prophets or seers or
625
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even Jesus was able to remote you, and they seem
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to know where things were at without physically being able
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to see them. I wonder if it's possible, if the
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Sasquatch are so highly tuned to this planet that they're
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able to tap into maybe the consciousness of the Earth.
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And I've heard people who are into mushrooms talk about
631
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.679
that that the myceelium is like neurotransmitters in the ground
632
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and it's all connected, kind of one conscious and maybe
633
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:44.599
the tree structures represent that. I've I think I heard
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Mike talk about that, that everything's connected, and it might be.
635
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I mean, like our veins look like lightning. If you
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look at an extray of our lungs, it kind of
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looks like trees.
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Like branching, all these branches. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
639
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then there's the whole idea of the fractal idea or
640
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:08.639
the holographic idea, where which is which does resonate with
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what I was just thinking of, Like the whole of
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information is the whole of the whole of the system
643
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is in every part like in a hologram or infractal
644
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:23.599
And you're saying like little examples the have you heard
645
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:28.039
of the cosmic web? Yeah, it's like what they can
646
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It's hard, but they've so far been able to detect
647
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.000
by inference, by gravitational inference, what dark matter, how it
648
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:39.519
spreads itself out throughout the universe, connecting galaxies and galaxy.
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Clusters, and that entanglement.
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Well, that's not exactly the same thing. But I think
651
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some people think that all of the universe is entangled,
652
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and if this information idea that we've been tossing around
653
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is true, then all information is entangled right here, you know.
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So it depends on how far you can extend the
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00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.559
notion of entanglement, which started up being just about two
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00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:05.639
particles that you that are together at first, and then
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you separate them by a great distance, and they remain
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correlated because they're really just two parts of the same object,
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not two different objects as they appear. So some people
660
00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.360
take that to a real macro level, and some people
661
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:22.480
don't think that's viable. But I don't know. But I
662
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.320
was just gonna say that the cosmic web looks a
663
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.840
lot like the my celium web underneath trees. There's and
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there's great mirroring going on in nature from the microcosm
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to the macrocosm, and it's just fascinating, Like you say, yeah, yeah.
666
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.599
Definitely absolutely, and kind of what we were discussing earlier.
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Could this be comparable to let's say, an identical twin
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or maybe a mother with their child. I've heard identical
669
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twins say that when their brother or sister was in trouble,
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somehow they knew, like they automatically knew. Would you say
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that's mind speed or remote viewing?
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Yeah, I think that's that's part and parcel is the
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very same thing we've been talking about. It's like, it
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may be that identical twins have more of a proclivity
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for telepathy and maybe mother and child or father and child,
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but it doesn't mean it can't happen between any two people.
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00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.000
There's this podcast that most of most of you guys
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00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.760
will have heard, the Telepathy tapes, and some think that
679
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:38.679
over overclaims because the examples that are pre cited in
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that excellent rich podcast are after all just done in
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living rooms, not in laboratory conditions, but at the end
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of this year, maybe the very beginning of next year.
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That documentary is coming out. They've been they've finished now,
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but they spent months filming in laboratory conditions the same
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feats to empathy that these nonverbal autistic children were able
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to accomplish, and so they did it with triple blind
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meaning that researcher didn't know the target information that the
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kid was going to access, and the you know, blindness
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were individual parts of the experiment unaware of the other
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parts in terms of the researchers doing the various playing
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the various roles of administering the tests. And I think
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that'll that'll persuade most people who weren't persuaded by the
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telepathy tapes. I already was persuaded pretty well by the
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telepathy tapes. And so these are kids who their only
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commonality is that they are this extended group all over
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the world is bonded by the mere fact that they've
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been locked in their bodies, and nobody's been able to
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know just how competent and full human being and mind
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they are because they have a proxy, which means they
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can't control their bodies gross motor function and fine motor
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function are almost impossible for them, so they can't talk.
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So instead, nature being great, just bestows her grace on them,
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you could say, by allowing them to their consciousness to
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be more expansive and connective than the rest of us
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who are in typical bodies and neurotypical kinds of minds.
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And so, you know, so it can it can be
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between people who are close in other ways, like the
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family members you mentioned, or it can be people who
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need to communicate in nonverbally because that's the only avenue
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open to them and they're desperate to escape this prison
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house where they're they're sort of in the old days.
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They used to be just institutionalized and thought to be,
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you know, mentally incompetent. But luckily, with the advent of
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ways to communicate that allow them to translate their mind
715
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.559
into into language, we find out that there's you know,
716
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:22.920
a three dimensional, spiritually wise and very particulate soul insight.
717
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.480
And did you did you listen to that podcast?
718
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:36.119
Yeah, that's very interesting. And I've been told that I'm autistic.
719
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.079
I have no idea if I am, and I've wondered
720
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:40.320
my entire life. I've never been diagnosed for it, but
721
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:42.920
I often wonder if that's maybe why I had the
722
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:46.599
sightings that I've had. I like to isolate myself, and
723
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.679
there's a lot of other traits that I won't get
724
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:54.239
into here, but I wonder if the Sasquatch are tuned
725
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.159
into people who are autistic. Can you talk about that
726
00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:01.440
and why you believe there's comparisons with autistic people in
727
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:02.119
the Sasquatch.
728
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:06.440
Yeah, that's a really good question. In the last couple
729
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:11.239
chapters of my book, mind Speak, it's about people going
730
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.760
out on an expedition with an autistic, very gifted, autistic
731
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.119
young man and he's able to be mentally in touch
732
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:19.920
with the local group, and he says, well, they've moved
733
00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.440
over there, and then you hear them over there, you know,
734
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:27.079
and lots of I've heard lots of stories over the
735
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:33.840
year ears of the attunement between autistic folks and Sasquatch,
736
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:39.840
and I think that it connects with the telepathy tapes,
737
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.800
where these artistic kids are very, very spiritually psychically advanced,
738
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.079
and so are Sasquatch. My theory that I put out
739
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.920
about ten years ago first was that Sasquatch are most
740
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:59.239
like autistic savants, and savant is like a subcategory about
741
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:02.320
ten percent about people are also savants, which means they
742
00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:09.360
have genius gifts, either photographic memory or mathematical gifts, or
743
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.719
musical gifts or artistic gifts, or being able to read
744
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:14.840
two pages of a book at the same time and
745
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.559
then flip the pages read at the same time, like
746
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.119
that guy Daniel Peak could do. Who is the inspiration
747
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:25.599
behind rain Man. So there's these genius level autistic people,
748
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.000
and I think that Sasquatch on average has to be
749
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:31.199
a genius level in order to accomplish what they do
750
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:36.639
and never have been not only not put on reservations
751
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.039
like our Native American friends, but not even believed in
752
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.679
by most people. And yet they live thickly among us,
753
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.280
right on the side of civilization, probably most active, right
754
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.280
next to civilization on the borderline, because because they're drawn
755
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.760
to us over kinship, just like we're drawn to them,
756
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:56.719
but they can get away with being close to us
757
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:03.920
without being caught out. And so my theory is that
758
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:07.039
way back in the day, our common ancestor, because we're
759
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.159
very close zoologically and genetically, our common ancestor had some
760
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:18.920
primordial form of autism, genius autism, autism, savantism, and then
761
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:23.519
when we split off they, they evolved down their their
762
00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:29.800
path of development and we evolve down ours. And now
763
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:32.880
the Sasquatch have a form of autism, display a form
764
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.599
of autism which allows them to accomplish these breathtaking feats
765
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:46.119
of cognition and stealth and and ability to analyze our
766
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.079
routines in order for them to know the system brilliance
767
00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:56.320
where they understand the human system in any given civilization community,
768
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.960
and so they can occupy the negative space to our
769
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.159
positive space, or vice versas. They can stay out of
770
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.199
the way except for tiny percentage of the time when
771
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:15.480
we get a peek at them. I think that they
772
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.559
have to have a photographic memory, or else our trail
773
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:22.679
cameras would be much more successful. I think if we
774
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.280
put a trail camera up, even if we think we've
775
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:28.280
hidden it, it sticks out to them like if someone
776
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.320
took a took a crap in the middle of your
777
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:32.559
living room. It's just like so obvious. I think they
778
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.159
I think they visually the risual acuity and their retention
779
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:43.119
of their territory is down to square inches. So I
780
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.079
think that back in the day, there was some primordial
781
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.880
ancestor that then split off and I think that our
782
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:55.599
artistic people are a a I don't want to say
783
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.760
throwback if that makes it sound like it's it's more primitive,
784
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:01.280
but it's instead it's more advanced. I mean, I think
785
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:04.239
it's a resurgence of this ancient genius that we had,
786
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:08.360
and only some of us retain that or express it
787
00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.360
in a certain profile, and then of them, a small
788
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.960
pertentage express it in this more and more ingenious, more
789
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:22.519
just remarkable way, like the rain Man and these these
790
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.280
stars of that podcast telepathy tapes.
791
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:27.159
I think the.
792
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:32.440
Soundsquatch autism is different. I have a book called Sasquatch
793
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.199
on and Autism, another almost perfect title. I think it's
794
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:39.639
different because they are kind of they sort of have
795
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:42.559
a hive mind. They they're in touch with each other,
796
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:49.119
whereas ours is more individualistic. Setting aside the telepathy tapes,
797
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.000
kids and how they talk to each other in their mind,
798
00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:53.199
I think, in terms of behavior and what we've known
799
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:58.360
so far, an individual autistic person person or let's say
800
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:03.480
a child growing up finds it very difficult to directly communicate.
801
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:09.000
There's a lot of indirect communication through like these peck cards,
802
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:14.599
which are images and symbols that they can use to
803
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:17.039
convey how they're feeling, or what they want to do,
804
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.320
or what they're afraid of. And I think that it's
805
00:52:21.960 --> 00:52:26.119
common that autistic kids and then later when they grow up,
806
00:52:26.920 --> 00:52:31.880
forms structures around themselves. They'll lay their toys out very precisely,
807
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:33.639
and if you move one out of place, they freak
808
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:36.239
out and they put it back. There's an O C
809
00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.639
D element to it. And they'll make these structures both
810
00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:45.000
externally and internal structures like memorizing. You know, some kids
811
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:50.760
in England will memorize the entire or is it the
812
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:57.800
entire schedule of the London subway, the tube or remarkable
813
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:02.960
feats of memorization. And I think that these structures give
814
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:05.639
them a sense of safety, of order, of a sort
815
00:53:05.639 --> 00:53:07.920
of buffer zone in between them and the chaos that
816
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.719
can encroach from the rest of the world. And I
817
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:11.519
think that's what to feel that way as a group
818
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.679
rather than individually. And I think that their tree structures
819
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:22.079
and stick structures, which are so almost ubiquitous where they
820
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.960
their territory is, it's a similar kind of thing to
821
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.440
the structures that artistic kids make. I think it's a
822
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:34.760
way of putting their imprint, their signature, their self into
823
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.840
the external world, so that wherever they look it's like home.
824
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:39.679
It's like home to them. And I think that this
825
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.599
is a sort of a bulwark against the chaos that
826
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.320
is our species, that we would if given our given
827
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:55.679
our ruthless history, bloodthirsty history, given the chance, we would
828
00:53:56.039 --> 00:54:01.880
inundate them and you know, just destroy them and or
829
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:07.320
sequester them into reservations. And I think that they sense
830
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:10.880
this in us, and that's why they're so so selective
831
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.800
when it comes to making friends with members of our
832
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:19.039
species that sometimes that happens. There's a woman in Ohio
833
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.559
who goes by snow white Bigfoot, and she has a
834
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.400
great YouTube channel and for seven years now she's been
835
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:30.960
having an indirect Again, it's always indirect. You don't sit
836
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:34.320
and have tea with these creatures. They communicate with you
837
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.039
in fleeting indirect ways, like banging the side of your
838
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:38.960
house and then running away, or tapping on the window
839
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.840
as you were mentioning in your Flash of Beauty interview,
840
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.320
and all sorts of other little ways where they'll leave
841
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:54.800
things on the port and what or that. This woman
842
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:59.840
in Ohio, she has for years played this communication with
843
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:03.519
objects games like an extended chess game where she'll put
844
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:05.280
things on the porch and she'll come back and they've
845
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.800
been changed in an intelligent, specific enough ways that you
846
00:55:08.880 --> 00:55:12.360
know it wasn't a raccoon or a crow. She'll put like,
847
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.119
just for example, and there are hundreds of examples. I
848
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:20.559
really recommend her channel. She'll put like three die with
849
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.119
the number one at the top, and they're perfectly flushed,
850
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.360
and then next day there's still like that day after
851
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:30.000
she'll find that they're perfectly flushed, but fives are all
852
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.760
at the top, and she'll put a like a huge
853
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.360
gourd and a pumpkin on the porch railing the porch platform,
854
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:41.039
and the next day they'll be reversed, and she has
855
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.039
pictures of the first one, so it's not like she'd misremembering.
856
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:50.440
And she'll put a line of box cars, little race cars,
857
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:54.239
five race cars, and then one morning she'll find a
858
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.039
sixth car which is of the same kind, but it's
859
00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.920
never she'd never seen it before, and it'll be the
860
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:04.159
same color as the one right next to it. So
861
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.800
they're very associative, and it tells her that they're going
862
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:11.880
to other houses too, and they're seeing objects and they're comparing,
863
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:17.440
they're matching that matching them up with what's on another house.
864
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.039
And it may be that you know how grand master
865
00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.239
chess players will play with twelve people at once, and
866
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.880
maybe that that's what are sort of in a circuit around.
867
00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.440
Out of a thousand houses, maybe twelve houses are onto
868
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:32.360
them and know that they're interacting with them, and they'll
869
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:35.400
leave things out, and they'll get gifts and leave out
870
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:39.840
food and get flowers, many many things like that, and
871
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:47.239
beautiful gems, and it gives a Watching Angie's channel and
872
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.599
her name is Angie and snow White Big Pool, watching
873
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:51.480
her channel gives you a window into house that's what
874
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:54.440
to think in a way that no other source that
875
00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:58.920
I've ever known of does, and how they make associations
876
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:03.840
and the OCD factor which was often paired with autism
877
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.039
in our species. It's like, for instance, she has this
878
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:10.199
little metal bowl, magnetic bowl that she would leave on
879
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:14.920
the on the portrailing, and then it was gone, and
880
00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.000
then they went to she and her husband went to
881
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.719
barbecue one night, and it's underneath the hood of the barbecue,
882
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:24.280
sticking magnetically to the grill. And they're like no other
883
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:28.239
nobody but them could have done that, And she put
884
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:30.519
it back, and then the next day it'll be under
885
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:32.320
the grill again, like they're saying, no, it goes here,
886
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:34.880
it must be here. You know, they're very precise. Instead
887
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.280
of being monsters sort of out of control, they're they're
888
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:42.239
they're the pillar of theirs of their psychologies. Control and
889
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.840
specificity and precision. That's how they that's how they managed
890
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:50.599
to survive. They can't be marauding monsters and managed to survive.
891
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:53.559
They have their moments, they're down moments, they're off moments
892
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:59.280
where they're monstrous and hormonal or adolescent and they're not
893
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.480
acting in their best interest. But by and large, the
894
00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:08.000
species is about control and precision. And there's only two
895
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:15.639
beings on earth which both avoid direct contact and seek it.
896
00:58:15.760 --> 00:58:17.639
I say they avoid us like the plague, and they
897
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:21.320
seek us like the cure. There's this two sided behavior
898
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.800
profile is Sasquatch does that because they really want to
899
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:29.239
Some of them really want to be in communication with us,
900
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:34.719
but never directly. And autistic people they find very hard
901
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.400
to make eye contact, and that's sort of an emblem
902
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:42.480
of how they find it difficult to directly engage in
903
00:58:42.559 --> 00:58:45.400
any way. But they are desperate to be in touch
904
00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:47.960
because they're they're just like anyone if they're lonely and
905
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:51.719
they want to be in communion with others, but they
906
00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:55.719
don't know how to do it except for through objects,
907
00:58:55.840 --> 00:59:00.760
through through mediation by objects or pictures or a keyboard,
908
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:06.360
et cetera, et cetera. So you don't see other animals
909
00:59:06.440 --> 00:59:09.880
or other creatures doing this, like a snow leopard will
910
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.599
just stay away or bob can't. They don't. They don't
911
00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:18.519
also turn around and try to try to communicate and
912
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:22.039
understand you and be with you. They just avoid you.
913
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:26.079
I mean, unless you can think of another kind of
914
00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:32.440
entity on this earth besides these two anyway. Blah blah
915
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:33.800
blah blah blah.
916
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:37.519
So there's been many people that have had horrifying experiences
917
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:41.440
with the sasquatch. What would be a reason for that, Like,
918
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:46.519
what's something that really triggers an autistic person? What's something
919
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.920
that you could do that you trigger them?
920
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:58.559
Well, upsetting their order, upsetting there. They're carefully laid personal space.
921
00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.039
I think when we get in their face and their
922
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:06.280
grill in their space sasquatch, it can properly be pissed off.
923
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.920
I think that's why there's so much intimidation behavior that
924
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:15.639
goes on because they they have their they have their
925
01:00:15.719 --> 01:00:20.719
landscape figured out. They like order and control, and if
926
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.920
you are threatening that or poking holes in the structure
927
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:29.159
that they've set up, or messing with their structure, I
928
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.440
mean structure in general, or structures in terms of tree
929
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.199
and stick structure, if you mess around with those, I
930
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:41.639
think they get pissed off. One time I found a
931
01:00:41.639 --> 01:00:49.119
beautiful tree bend, I mean a tree, a sapling arch
932
01:00:49.559 --> 01:00:52.079
was pinned down at the end, and I was in
933
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:57.119
there filming it, sniffing around and being sort of marveling
934
01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.599
at it. And the next week I came back and
935
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.119
it was exactly the same extent was broken at the top.
936
01:01:03.599 --> 01:01:08.960
It's like, it's like we've been compromised. We've been compromised
937
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.920
by by a human who who now knows too much.
938
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.039
So we're going to put this offline. This is no
939
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:17.519
longer part of our our protective shell that we we
940
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:22.239
create our or a protective zone, you know, Just like
941
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:24.440
I was talking about the odds factor being a different
942
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.679
mode of reality where these high strangeness events occur. I
943
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:33.480
think they create their own separate piece p E A
944
01:01:33.800 --> 01:01:37.119
c E A separate reality where things are as they
945
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:42.920
as they as they resonate with as they feel most
946
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:47.599
familiar with homie, and so that can piss them off.
947
01:01:47.639 --> 01:01:51.519
Of course, if you if you go after their their
948
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:55.320
juveniles just like bears don't. That's not because of autism.
949
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.119
I heard a story told to me by the same
950
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:01.960
woman who saw the One disappears. She heard a story
951
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:05.719
about two guys in a canoe going down river in
952
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:11.639
I think Oklahoma, and they see a young sasquatch up there,
953
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:13.599
and the one guy gets off with a rifle and
954
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.920
goes after it, and like twenty minutes go by, and
955
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.119
the second guy sitting in the canoe in thirty minutes
956
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:23.519
and then he hears a gunshot and he doesn't know
957
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:27.000
what to do, what hell, And so he finally goes
958
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.960
in there and he finds his friend was dead, with
959
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.880
his head as she said, jacked back backwards, his spine broken.
960
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.239
So don't go after their young ones with their rifle.
961
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:47.920
That'll help keep the peace. And and artistic folks, I
962
01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:51.800
mean to be crudely general generalizing. They get really pissed
963
01:02:51.840 --> 01:02:56.000
off when you mess with their structures, with their with
964
01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.360
they've assembled as their sense of an extended self. There
965
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:03.000
has some steps, you know, in some order to it.
966
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:10.199
There's there's there are videos of of artistic kids putting
967
01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:15.920
their arranging their toys just so, just like pretty elaborately,
968
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:18.920
and then, through no fault of the adult, one of
969
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:21.719
the toys like topples over because it wasn't balanced very
970
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.280
well and rolls away, and the kid flips out, absolutely
971
01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:27.880
flips out because she finally had the world the way
972
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:28.599
she wanted it.
973
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:36.440
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. So don't touch their stuff, And
974
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:40.119
if you occupy their areas for too long, you might
975
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.000
get a bad you might have a bad experience essentially.
976
01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:48.199
But I've noticed when I touched their stuff it triggers
977
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.719
a response. One time, I was down at the creek
978
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:53.840
bottom and I was checking out this big rock circle
979
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.039
that I had found down there. There are seven rocks
980
01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:59.360
in a circle. It totally was not there before, and
981
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.840
it's an area where I've had a lot of experiences before.
982
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:03.760
It's where I've seen them with my own eyes. But
983
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:06.559
I touched one of the rocks, picked it up, and
984
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:09.639
a huge rock came from across the creek hit a
985
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:11.960
sapling on my side, and the sapling was going back
986
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:12.920
and forth and.
987
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:14.400
I felt like I triggered them.
988
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:19.440
Yeah, but that's a perfect example, Miguel, Wow, absolutely perfect.
989
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.000
Yeah, yeah, and I can.
990
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:25.639
Sometimes you can do something just like on the Ohio
991
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:29.920
Woman's Snow White Pig foods porch. They make structures and
992
01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.760
she changes them and it's fun. You know, that's the game.
993
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:36.199
So sometimes they'll reciprocate and I get pissed off. It
994
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:42.159
depends on the sort of this sort of tacit agreement
995
01:04:42.199 --> 01:04:44.199
that you have in the beginning of the process. That's
996
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:45.079
sort of like.
997
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:51.000
You yeah, because that rock circle wasn't meant for me.
998
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.119
But I have noticed where they'd leave these rock piles
999
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:57.159
or rock circles on people's porches and they're interacting back
1000
01:04:57.239 --> 01:04:58.280
and forth with them.
1001
01:04:58.840 --> 01:04:59.079
Yeah.
1002
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:01.639
And also, I with what you said about the structures.
1003
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.519
It seems to be a buffer zone between their world
1004
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:07.320
and ours, and it kind of makes them feel safe.
1005
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:10.119
I've noticed a lot of these tree structures aren't deep deep,
1006
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:13.119
deep in the woods. They're in these transition lines where
1007
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.880
humans meet the sasquatch world.
1008
01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:19.199
It's so surprising when you discover that so many people
1009
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:21.400
have discovered that for the first time, and then compare
1010
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.480
notes and everybody's discovering that. You know, it's like you
1011
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:28.360
see a bunch of structures in like a microforest or
1012
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:33.679
a sort of a transition point, like you say, and
1013
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:35.199
then you think, Wow, it's going to be so much
1014
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:37.679
more if I go up this mountain than there aren't.
1015
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:41.559
I think it's because they're magnetized toward us, but they
1016
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:45.480
but only so far. And then you have the edge
1017
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:48.320
of their world, and that edge is crucial to them.
1018
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:50.800
But they want to be close so they can watch
1019
01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:54.039
us and be with their because they probably think of
1020
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:57.000
us as kin, just like we think of them as kin.
1021
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:01.519
Wire fence for sasquatch.
1022
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.360
Oh good, good, that's great. Yeah, I like that. I
1023
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:09.920
like that. Yeah, or electric fence, Yeah, yeah, exactly right, right.
1024
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:14.800
And yeah, I agree the the Sasquatch, they don't like
1025
01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.039
direct eye contact. When I laid eyes on that little
1026
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:20.400
juvenile and he noticed I was there, he was so
1027
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:22.800
freaked out. Yeah, yeah, he was freaked out. It was
1028
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:24.880
like you saw the devil. I felt bad for him,
1029
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:26.719
but I don't know, I kind of felt like the
1030
01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:29.559
Butler off. Mister Deed's the one that always sneaks up
1031
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.639
on Adam Sandler's Like, oh yeah, that's what I felt
1032
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:33.719
like when I encountered him.
1033
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:35.920
Yeah, I just don't think they know how to deal
1034
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.519
with us. It's too much, It's overload, you know. So
1035
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:47.079
it's a simultaneous intimacy and remoteness that's always in the
1036
01:06:47.159 --> 01:06:52.000
mix with them, you know. And the intimacy is just
1037
01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.960
from them. They creep up within thirty feet away, like
1038
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.400
the one that I got on thermal. She was thirty
1039
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:02.599
five feet away from where we were standing and wanted
1040
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:03.760
to be you know.
1041
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:06.719
But I've kicked.
1042
01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:10.000
Myself a thousand times that I didn't recognize what I
1043
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:14.199
was seeing in that little viewfinder and walked toward her,
1044
01:07:14.199 --> 01:07:16.400
because it would have had a fantastic I mean, as
1045
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:18.519
it is, it's I think one of the best thermal
1046
01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:23.920
footages of sasquatch, but it would have been just remarkably
1047
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:27.920
compelling because she would have had to just either stand
1048
01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.440
up and run away or crawl away on all fours,
1049
01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:33.119
and either way it would have been so fun to
1050
01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:36.360
see and have a record of it. So, but can't
1051
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.119
go back change history.
1052
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:46.719
Yeah, And how has your research evolved since discovering their
1053
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:51.280
connections with autistic people and what we talked about earlier.
1054
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.400
Are you working on anything behind the scenes, anything new
1055
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:57.119
that might blow the roof off the topic.
1056
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:03.000
Ah, no, the whole, the whole. Last section of my
1057
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:06.840
new book, The Anatomy of Thin Air is might blow
1058
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:08.679
the roof off for some people who are willing to
1059
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:10.960
venture this far out on a limb. But it compares
1060
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:16.319
the Shroud of Turin or Turin Jesus is Shroud of
1061
01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:20.520
Turin image with an image that was left on the
1062
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:25.880
window of a car of snow White Bigfoot and her husband.
1063
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.199
Because both of them are like three dimensional, they have
1064
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:31.600
depth to them. They're not just a print on a
1065
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:35.520
flat surface. And in that last section of that book,
1066
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:41.159
I go into how both I think are produced by
1067
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:48.239
an energy of consciousness and because look, and I'm glad
1068
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:50.640
you brought this up, because people should look at snow
1069
01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:57.640
White Bigfoot and her video called Juvenile Sasquatch arm or
1070
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.199
if you just search arm on her channel you'll find it.
1071
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:05.479
And she does a beautiful breakdown of She's a professional photographer,
1072
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:12.239
so she was able to extract as much, uh as
1073
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:16.159
much as possible the information that was available on the window.
1074
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:22.640
You can see individual pores or follicle holes what you
1075
01:09:22.720 --> 01:09:27.199
call this, and individual hairs off the side, but you
1076
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:29.720
can tell it's not it's not flat, and although they
1077
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:31.920
have a lot of oil on their on their skin,
1078
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:35.520
it's not It's not plausible that this was produced just
1079
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.720
by a lot of oil because of the level of
1080
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:43.000
detail you'll see when you go check this out. Similarly,
1081
01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:48.600
the shroud of Turin, I think it's another manifestation of
1082
01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:52.279
much more intense, of course, than the Sasquatch arm. I'm
1083
01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:56.399
not trying to say that Saskatch or Jesus. I'm just
1084
01:09:56.479 --> 01:10:01.279
saying that both and all of us share is a birthright,
1085
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.479
the energy of consciousness, and in some cases it can
1086
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:14.439
be more explosively manifested or more vividly manifested than in
1087
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.359
other cases. But this arm you got to see, you
1088
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:22.079
can see the ball of the elbow, the depth of it.
1089
01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:26.960
It's not just on a surface, and she has It's
1090
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.840
another thing not to beat a dead horse. But also
1091
01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.479
at the house where I got the thermal footage in
1092
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:38.920
the woodpile, there were fingerprints on the back of my
1093
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:42.720
rental car in the morning, and these prints had not
1094
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.920
only the ball of the fingers, but you could also
1095
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.920
see the nail. And she in Ohio, this was in Texas.
1096
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:54.520
She in Ohio has had even better photographs the fingerprints
1097
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.119
left on various services, and there too you can see
1098
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.119
the ball of the fingers and the nail, but they're
1099
01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:05.199
on two different planes. Especially, you wouldn't press, you wouldn't
1100
01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:07.960
be able to get a print of the finger nail
1101
01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:09.960
if you're also getting a print of the pad of
1102
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.439
the finger. That's that's why I think it's a projection
1103
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:18.079
of consciousness. But it's it's the anatomy into the bargain.
1104
01:11:18.159 --> 01:11:21.560
It's not it's not either or it's like, I think
1105
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:25.920
they're able to It's hard to describe, but I think
1106
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.479
you know what I mean, like able to manifest their
1107
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:33.720
bodies in a way that transcends what just a sort
1108
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:39.720
of the most modest embodiment that we have. They're they're
1109
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.800
more expansive, more energetic embodiment, and they can do this
1110
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:46.079
sort of sort of thing where they leave an image
1111
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:49.760
of themselves and they in that image they attest to
1112
01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:52.479
the fact that they're more than just their body. Because
1113
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:55.520
it's not a flat print, it's hard to articulate. I
1114
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:58.039
try to articulate it in in that that book, but
1115
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.640
I definitely recommend that video of herse the arm sasquat,
1116
01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:09.079
snow white, bigfoot, juvenile arm. It's great. You'll see what
1117
01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:13.079
I mean about the three dimensionality. Anyway, So what am
1118
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:16.880
I doing since well after I put out a documentary
1119
01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:19.399
called how to See a Sasquatch, at the end of
1120
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:22.359
which I have footage of a juvenile sasquatch climbing an
1121
01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:25.199
apple tree. That became sort of divisive because many people
1122
01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:27.960
think it's a porcupine, but I know it's not because
1123
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:31.800
judging by the eight inch thick tree that was climbing up,
1124
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:36.399
the juvenile is twice the size of even a male
1125
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:39.359
North American porcupine. So you can see that near the
1126
01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:42.479
end of my documentary how to See a Sasquatch. And
1127
01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:44.880
by the way, my website with all these things on
1128
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:50.800
it is the nearness of you dot Net. But after that,
1129
01:12:51.199 --> 01:12:54.760
I kind of went back full circle to when I
1130
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.560
was a teenager, which when I had a long interaction
1131
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:05.119
with a ghost, and I began searching more deeply consciousness
1132
01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:10.399
and psychic and spiritual research from the past and the present.
1133
01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:13.039
And so I've been writing books about that for the
1134
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:19.399
last four years, and I'm slowly gathering material for sequel
1135
01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:22.399
to that Sasquatch documentary, but I don't have enough yet
1136
01:13:22.439 --> 01:13:25.720
to make it worth putting out as a full a
1137
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:31.600
full documentary. So the books I've written recently about spiritual
1138
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:37.560
and psychic matters are One is called Homegrown Monsters, where
1139
01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:41.439
I argue that aliens quote unquote aliens are not from
1140
01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:47.680
a foreign planet, but they're again manifestations of consciousness, the
1141
01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:52.800
formative power of consciousness, using the raw materials of Earth
1142
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:57.560
life in order to manifest as like insects. People say
1143
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:03.119
describe aliens as being like insects, like reptiles, like humanoids,
1144
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.800
and I go into detail, but why I think it's
1145
01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:09.680
so unlikely that those exact body forms that we have
1146
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:13.439
here evolved on a foreign planet, because there's so many
1147
01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:20.039
thousands of flooky twists and turns of the natural history
1148
01:14:20.039 --> 01:14:22.680
of anyone's species on this planet to get to what
1149
01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:27.840
we look like today. That would be beyond credibility that
1150
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:31.680
they the same parallel conditions would have and the same
1151
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:35.920
twists and turns would have occurred on foreign planets anyway.
1152
01:14:36.119 --> 01:14:39.760
So there's that book, Homegrown Monsters, and then the most
1153
01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.399
recent one is The Anatomy of Thin Air, where I
1154
01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:46.960
go into thinking about exploring consciousness and how it might,
1155
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:50.239
how we might the model of what it's what it
1156
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:53.960
is such that it describes some of the empirical evidence
1157
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:59.760
that people get in these episodes of high strangeness paranormal experience.
1158
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.119
I appreciate you for sharing your books, your website, and
1159
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:10.239
your YouTube channel, and what are your plans with bigfoot
1160
01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:12.720
research in the future. Do you still continue to go
1161
01:15:12.800 --> 01:15:15.560
out in the forest to this day and camp out
1162
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.199
there and look for these sasses?
1163
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:20.319
I used to, Yeah, I used to camp solo that
1164
01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:24.399
My three part approach was to go look for stick
1165
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:27.439
and tree structures that might be human, but they don't
1166
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:30.359
really look like human and so they're suspicious. And then
1167
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:34.399
leave an audio recorder out programmed just to record during
1168
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:37.159
the nighttime the wee hours, and then if you hear
1169
01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:43.640
wood knocks or other or vocalizations, then go out and
1170
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:47.720
sleep there by yourself. So I did that one hundred
1171
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:52.560
times or more, and I don't do that anymore. I might,
1172
01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:55.159
it's just that I kind of got it out of
1173
01:15:55.239 --> 01:15:58.479
my system. They come close, but they don't let you.
1174
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:03.279
It's pitch dark, they come closer if it's If it's
1175
01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:07.000
not pitch dark, they stay farther away. We all know
1176
01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:08.920
about that. I don't have the kind of luck that
1177
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:13.640
you have with getting first hand sightings, you know, so
1178
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:17.560
I kind of petered out on the excitement of sleeping
1179
01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:21.479
out there. And I have a really good thermal camera
1180
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:24.960
and a really good night vision camera. The Apple Tree
1181
01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:27.800
climber video that I mentioned is with night vision. It
1182
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:30.840
happened at right after midnight, so it's green, you know,
1183
01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:34.319
greenish and not crystal clear. That's why it's easy to
1184
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:36.760
have different interpretations of it. But you can see it
1185
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if you want to. On my channel. I have some
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clips from that documentary about the Apple Tree Climber, so
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you if you want don't want to sit through the
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whole documentary, you can see that footage. So I have
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these really good cameras and I do go out and
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I do still One place that I'm actively audio recording
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is I just have it on a ridge right above
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a dirt road, a back road, and I would say
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forty percent of the time that a car passes by,
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you'll hear bam from the top of that ridge.
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And that that.
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Dovetails with so many reports that that they will just
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like inform the group that here comes a human thing
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a car. I don't know if they know the word car.
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They call it a human thing. They they and they'll
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some they'll either hit it right before the car gets
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here or right after it leaves, and really alarmingly high
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amount of the time. So I'm picturing like either there's
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a sasquatch actually flesh and bluds sitting up there waiting,
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might be two hours between every car when it's late
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at night, you know, because this is a real back
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road situation, and then hit it even though the cars
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always just go by. So what's the point, Why why
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you have to alert the group? Or it's a spiritual
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it's a discarnate as we say, sasquatch that makes this sound,
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but isn't sitting around, you know, as a board hungry,
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actual flesh and blood creature. I don't know, because I've
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heard now finally heard the invisible wood invisible wood knocks,
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and so I know. I used to say, if I
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heard a wood knock, I would think, I absolutely one
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hundred percent know that right there, seventy yards away is
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the hand of a sasquatch grabbing a piece of wood.
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I know this. It's amazing, And now I can't say
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that anymore, which is good and bad. It's a pleasant minus. Yeah.
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Our thoughts about sasquatch are always evolving. And I noticed
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the same thing with my research when my friend Bill
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would leave his house in the Mark Twain National Forest
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here in Missouri, which he had sightings just like myself
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in a different area in Missouri. But anyways, he'd leave
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and then I'd be listening on the audio recorder and
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later on I hear him and his wife Debbie coming
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down the driveway and a loud wood knock.
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Oh that exactly. Yeah, Yeah, it's one of the it's
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one of the very predictable consistency of their behaviors, that
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that morning knock and the all clear knock. You know, hey,
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have you heard any update on Shane what's his last name?
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He was working in Missouri, you know, he has the
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acreage that he would always go to, and then there
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was a shooting and he had a documentary to what's
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his last name, Shane.
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Shane Carpenter, Randy Harrington, that whole group.
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I don't think his name is Carpenter because that's Scott Carpenter.
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Unless his name is Carpenter too. He's thinking Shane is Carpenter. Okay, yeah,
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that do you know anything about their their progress? They
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had that one documentary and they were going to do
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a second one.
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I haven't heard much from them lately. I think they're
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still getting out there looking.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, you want to say, if.
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We're not hearing much about them, they must have found
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something good.
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Probably true. Yeah, because when you said in Missouri, I
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realized because that's the same statement therein right.
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Yeah. Yeah, those are more west than me.
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Okay, okay, anyway, I just wondered, all right, well I'm
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kind of tired, so maybe we can wrap it up.
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Okay, Well, you did an excellent job at talking about
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the experiences, the research that you've done, and your thoughts
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and theories about the subject, especially on a quantum level
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scientific level. I really appreciate it, and you really opened
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up my mind to new possibilities about the Sasquatch beans
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and their origins and what they're capable of.
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Thank you, sir, I appreciate you. Thank you for saying that.
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Thank you for having me on. I've admired your channel
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and been cheering you on from the sidelines as you
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grow your audience so well over the years, and I'm
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really privileged to be a part.
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Of it now, absolutely, and I'm glad that I finally
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got to speak with the legend Chris for Noel. And yeah,
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if you ever want to come back on, I'd love
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to have you back on, or if you want to
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team up you're ever up ever out here in the Ozarks,
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definitely let me know.
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Okay, I will, I will, And yeah, if I have
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a breakthrough, I'll let you know.
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Okay, sounds good.
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If I'm not just thinking in my little noodle head
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but actually out there having breakthroughs, that's when I'll come
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to you.
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Okay, I'm going to send you something through email that
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will help you out with your research, so be looking
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for that. Okay, excellent, Thank you, yep, thank you, and
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you have an excellent day you too, all right.
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Bye,