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What happens when the answers we desperately want simply don't exist?We live in a world that prizes knowledge, certainty, and solutions. But what happens when we encounter a kind of uncertainty that even the best science, the most experienced physician, or the most careful planning cannot resolve?In this episode of Resilient Aging // Unfiltered, Dr. Dani Cabral talks with Dr. Ronald Epstein, internationally recognized physician, researcher, and author of Attending: Medicine, Mindfulness, and Humanity, to explore what he calls the "unknowable unknown." Inspired by Dr. Epstein's groundbreaking paper on uncertainty in serious illness, this conversation examines why not knowing can feel so threatening and why our instinctive attempts to regain control can sometimes leave us even more stuck.Drawing from his decades of clinical experience and his personal experiences with Alzheimer's disease in his own family, Dr. Epstein explores how uncertainty influences our emotions, beliefs, relationships, and decisions. Together, they discuss the psychology of fear and avoidance, the limitations of medical predictions, and how mindfulness, curiosity, and what Dr. Epstein calls shared mind can help patients, families, and clinicians navigate circumstances for which there are no clear answers.Perhaps most importantly, they challenge a fundamental assumption: that we must first resolve uncertainty before we can move forward.What if the goal isn't to eliminate uncertainty, but to develop the capacity to live and live meaningfully alongside it?A thoughtful conversation about medicine, humanity, and finding our way through what cannot be known.How to Find Dr. Ron Epstein
Website: https://www.ronaldepstein.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronald-epstein-28a54b47/
Book (Attending: Medicine, Mindfulness, and Humanity) https://www.amazon.ca/Attending-Dr-Ronald-Epstein-M-D/dp/1501121715
Article:
Epstein RM. Facing epistemic and complex uncertainty in serious illness: The role of mindfulness and shared mind. Patient Educ Couns. 2021 Nov;104(11):2635-2642. doi: 10.1016/j.pec.2021.07.030. Epub 2021 Jul 17. PMID: 34334265.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34334265/
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