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00:00:26.588Hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the quarterback dad cast, and, as I promised, we do finally have a new and exciting sponsor that's going to be joining us over the next 13 weeks or so, and they it is called the authentic edge podcast, which is going to be launching very, very soon.
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00:01:19.221Well, hey, everybody, it's Casey Jaycox with the quarterback dad cast.
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00:01:24.861We are in season five, as you all well know, and we are recording in February.
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00:01:29.865This episode will come out in a couple couple months because it's a good problem where we're backlogged with some fantastic dads.
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00:01:46.286And this next one is one that I'm excited to interview because I met him at the fantastic TechServe conference in Amelia Island back in November and his name is Eric Chivret and he is the owner, president, founder of a company called IT360 Financial.
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00:01:47.290We'll learn all about that.
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00:01:51.251He does a lot of work in supporting the staffing and consulting industry.
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00:01:53.027He's based in Montreal, canada.
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00:02:04.109We're not going to talk to you about CFL football, though it might get brought up in the lightning realm, but, more importantly, we're here to talk to Eric the dad, and how he's working hard to become that ultimate quarterback or leader of his households.
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00:02:07.575Without further ado, mr Chivret, welcome to the Quarterback Dadcast.
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00:02:11.150Hello, thank you for having me, casey.
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00:02:13.021You bet man.
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00:02:16.350Well, I'm excited to educate myself.
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00:02:20.070We've had a few Canadians, and this is a French-Canadian.
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00:02:21.872I think you might be the first French-Canadian we've had.
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00:02:26.205Oh amazing, I took two years of French in high school, so un peu.
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00:02:27.948I don't remember much.
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00:02:28.549How does it go?
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00:02:29.850How does it go?
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00:02:32.055I don't know.
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00:02:36.707I could say je m'appelle Casey, that's my name.
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00:02:37.570Oh, that's wonderful.
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00:02:40.439That's good, that's good, wonderful.
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00:02:48.389But it's been 30 years since I took French, so I do like the language, so let's go in English then.
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00:02:50.887Okay, good idea, that's probably our listeners will enjoy that.
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00:02:56.569We always start each episode with gratitude, so tell me, what are you most grateful for as a dad today?
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00:03:04.473You know it's a gift when you have children.
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00:03:07.329I was lucky enough to have one daughter.
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00:03:10.610She just turned in December 25.
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00:03:13.503And you never know.
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00:03:18.433As a dad, you know what will turn out.
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00:03:24.092You know, sometimes you think you put so much pressure on them.
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00:03:32.373I was always a guy playing sports and I realized that sports was not hurting.
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00:03:42.275And she became very, very talented singing, doing musicals and things like that.
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00:03:53.592And this is how she achieved her passion and I encourage her in the in the honor artistic side.
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00:03:58.480For me it was pretty much the same thing as sports.
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00:04:04.164And now she's finishing university, a master's in psychology.
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00:04:09.669She's my little mother Teresa, so she's really a giver.
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00:04:15.614She wants to take care of everyone and I'm very, very proud of her.
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00:04:17.555Love it.
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00:04:18.355My curious mind.
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00:04:21.377I got to slow it down because I already have questions, but I'm going to pause.
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00:04:23.072I am grateful for a Tomorrow.
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00:04:24.119We have nothing going on and that rarely happens, but I'm going to.
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00:04:24.281I'm going to.
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00:04:24.699I'm going to pause.
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00:04:25.927I am grateful for a uh, I get a tomorrow.
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00:04:29.959We have nothing going on and I rarely happen, so I'm grateful for uh.
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00:04:31.262I'm going to sleep tomorrow.
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00:04:32.045I'm going to.
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00:04:38.264I'm going to enjoy the morning with the family and my daughter has a high school basketball game tonight, so that'll be fun to go watch her compete.
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00:04:54.863Um, I'm grateful that my son he gets to go to watch a university of Washington versus Washington state college basketball game tomorrow night, so that'll be fun for them to go do and then hopefully play some golf on Sunday, and so I'm looking forward to just kind of chilling, because it's been a crazy start to the year, eric.
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00:05:03.911I've been, I've been speaking almost every week, and so it's nice to kind of like just slow down a little bit and yeah, so, well, cool, well, okay.
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00:05:05.514So you talked a little bit about your daughter.
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00:05:07.807Bring me inside the family huddle.
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00:05:11.331What does a day in the life look like at home for you?
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00:05:18.309The thing is I'm divorced, so basically my daughter's 25.
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00:05:23.548So she lives in another city, so I see her every month.
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00:05:32.569I have an office in Quebec City city, so she lives east of me, maybe two and a half hours and, uh, it's always great discussion.
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00:05:51.629You know, she's sometime I think she has a very old, uh soul, uh, sometime I'm the dad, but sometime the way she speaks to me maybe it's because of the university degree that she has in psychology it's almost like if I have my own personal shrink.
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00:05:58.249I'm not quite there yet, but that's exciting to hear.
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00:06:01.410So we don't spend that much time together.
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00:06:09.875You know, I mean she has her own work, her own school, her own boyfriend, but we see each other every month.
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00:06:12.959So I enjoy the time we spend together.
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00:06:15.343We have a passion we love.
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00:06:16.786We both love food.
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00:06:24.084So every time I go to Quebec City, she will have a new restaurant for me to try.
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00:06:27.651So every month a new restaurant.
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00:06:36.151And this is how we connect together over a nice meal and we discover great restaurants, great food, great cultures.
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00:06:40.781Very cool and when you get to spend time with her.
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00:06:42.487How much time do you get to spend with her every month?
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00:06:57.625Maybe three to five hours, you know, I mean depending if it's a seven course meal or a fast meal, but it's really over, uh, food sometime.
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00:07:06.880Because she's artistic, you know, I mean I will go and see one of her show so I really enjoy that, you, I mean she sings like an angel.
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00:07:25.853She's been doing musical since she's four years old, so being 25, it's not a career, but she's been at it for so many years that she's really, really talented.
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00:07:29.269You know, I mean singing, dancing, acting.
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00:08:02.625So I even we had a great discussion, casey, this week, and I, never me I have 25,000 ideas a minute, 25 000 ideas a minute, and sometimes if I share too much with her, I feel that I put pressure because I'm very driven, business wise and things like that, and I try to tone it down a little bit, you know, to make it more like fun when we meet each other.
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00:08:18.189But I always seen her combining her education and her hobby and for the first time this week she told me Dad, I have an idea.
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00:08:27.331I think I will do psychology, but using theater and musical as a remedy.
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00:08:33.982A little bit like uh, uh, what was the name of that doctor that?
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00:08:39.951Uh, patch adams, you remember the doctor you know with uh yeah.
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00:08:43.143So I mean that that's our way of giving back.
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00:08:50.054Instead of going into a regular type of practice as a psychologist.
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00:08:55.231She wants to incorporate her hobby in it, you know, and start her own practice.
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00:08:58.668So I was very, very proud of her idea.
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00:08:59.591Very cool.
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00:09:03.125Where do you think where?
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00:09:03.907Actually one quick.
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00:09:07.494I'm curious, if you don't mind me asking when did you, when did you and your wife get divorced?
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00:09:12.56713 years ago, so she was 12.
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00:09:14.392She was 12.
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00:09:34.705Okay, a reason I ask that just interviewed somebody who's who's dealing with the challenges of you know custody and trying to understand you know the different types of time you get, and that that it was just really opened my eyes to uh, um, just some of those challenges but his attitude was so infectious about just he took the approach of I can't control what mom does.
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00:09:56.832All I can control what I do and I can control the time that I get and I can control the values that I teach and, uh, it was just really inspiring to hear and I was hoping that, like another dad out there who might be going through something similar that might maybe he's not have the best mindset right now, but hearing someone who's maybe somehow dug deep, found that positive way to you know, see that a different view.
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00:10:01.336And it was, it was, it was a positive conversation definitely.
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00:10:01.395Um.
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00:10:30.235So I'd love to learn I always, instead of going deep into your daughter real quick and your and and dad life, I always like kind of rewinding the tape and going back to what was life like for you growing up and talk about what, what, what, what that was like, and talk about the impact your parents had on you yeah, I come from an entrepreneur dad and my mom was a teacher, so failure was not really in the card for me.
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00:10:37.745I was pushed a lot by a mom as a teacher and my dad being a business owner.
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00:10:43.090There was a lot of of challenges, you know.
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00:10:51.860I mean, life is about challenges and do the best you can with what you have.
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00:11:04.927I was born in a small village and when I moved to the city to go to high school for me I was born on a farm.
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00:11:08.301My dad was a gentleman farmer, so we had three companies.
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00:11:14.871He was the president of two or three associations Plus we had 150 sheep.
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00:11:17.660So busy, busy guy.
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00:11:27.855So very young, I had responsibility of taking care of the farm at 10 years old because he was traveling for business.
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00:11:43.311So at a very young age we learned me and my sister responsibilities, you know, to take care of the family farm and I didn't really know when I grew up, you know what would I do.
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00:11:49.961I had an artistic side also.
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00:11:52.184I produced a lot of concerts back at university.
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00:12:07.455So I produced many, many concerts and shows and I wanted to go in that route and I changed my mind and there was not a lot of job when I finished university in 92.
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00:12:16.293So after many, many years of saying I would never work for my dad, I ended up working for my dad.
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00:12:27.807So I worked for my dad for four years in the family business and he sold to the largest we were in the paper converting business.
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00:12:35.351We had a factory in Buffalo, new York, and two factories in Montreal.
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00:12:48.889And when he sold the company I had the decision to stay with him or move with the 700 pound gorilla that bought him and I move 700 pound gorilla that bought him and I move with the uh, the guy who bought him.
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00:12:52.090And I did 17 years with them.
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00:13:00.053I moved my family at the time to Toronto to open a factory and start the sales team.
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00:13:04.530We bought another factory in Grand Rapids, michigan.
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00:13:05.221You know so, you know.
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00:13:15.700So I mean I was the national sales manager for the family business, but it was not my family that owned the business anymore.
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00:13:17.462So it was a little bit strange.
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00:13:36.072The fact that my art was added, because for me deep inside it was still the family business Made us and the team achieve very huge goals and it was a great school for me because I was pretty young at the time.
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00:13:42.427And when the honeymoon finished after 17 years.
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00:13:47.293You know I had to rethink about my future.
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00:13:55.251I was 40 years old, living in Toronto, away from my hometown and my own province, you know.
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00:14:09.793So I had to change and do an 180 degree turn, going from what I knew from my youth to an industry.
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00:14:16.970I had no clue about the financial services, you know, because I was born in the paper converting business.
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00:14:17.571I was.
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00:14:20.423I was five years old and I was running in paper mills.
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00:14:25.470So I thought I would finish my life with this.
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00:14:30.403And when that happened, you know, I mean it was like a shock.
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00:14:33.192It was almost like being kicked out of your own family.
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00:14:45.076And you're 40, you're not old, but you're not a young kid, neither you know, and you have a house to pay and a kid and a wife at the time.
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00:14:47.389So it was a rough time.
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00:15:09.634But today, after 13 years of that experience I mean the 180-degree turn moving from what I knew very, very well to what I didn't know at all, was another experience, another school, and made life fun, you know.
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00:15:14.169How does a 10-year-old learn to work on a farm?
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00:15:22.005Basically, your dad just say I'm gone for the week, you know what to do.
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00:15:23.846I believe in you.
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00:15:25.682Son, see you on friday.
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00:15:29.552So wow, I was 10 years old, you know.
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00:15:41.248And today, uh, I don't know about the states, but in canada we have, when you don't take proper, you don't take care of your kids properly, we call the uh authority.
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00:15:49.485I think today my dad would be in that situation, because in today's world we wouldn't do that to a 10 year old kid.
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00:16:08.399You know, I mean some some days I was coming back from private school and you go in the farm and at the same time there's maybe 10-15 sheep giving birth, giving birth.
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00:16:11.265So you're, wow, 12 years old.
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00:16:14.956I mean you have to deliver the baby.
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00:16:18.931What do you know, a 10-year-old to deliver babies?
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00:16:25.231They're popping all over the place, you know, and when there's a problem I was was calling the vet, panicking.
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00:16:38.187So very early I had to deal with a stressful situation, maybe a little bit early, but that made me who I am today.
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00:16:40.462As you think.
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00:16:43.003Now, real quick, Brad, I'm going to ask a question Are mom and dad still with us?
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00:16:46.943They're still with us, but they're not together.
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00:16:49.972sorry, Okay, but they're still living okay.
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00:16:51.966Yeah, they're both 79.
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00:16:53.471Oh, good for them.
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00:16:54.806What are they up to these days?
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00:17:04.291My dad kept the company when he sold to the big paper company.
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00:17:08.369He kept one and he kept it till 75.
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00:17:12.088So he sold it four years ago.
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00:17:16.990It was a management buyout, so the general manager of the company bought him.
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00:17:27.315And that's not a sad story, but a story that makes me think.
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00:17:36.375We always believe when you grow a business, you know some kind of an exit strategy and retirement.
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00:17:46.654My dad not exactly when he sold the company, but a little bit before became very, very ill.
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00:17:50.390He survived and he's still good.
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00:18:04.846I will probably go ice fishing we do trout fishing on ice here in Montreal, you know, up north but he lost 50% of his lung capacity, you know.
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00:18:07.070So he cannot do much.
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00:18:31.671And it makes me think, casey, sometime, you know, I mean retirement or maybe a switch or a change of your career, but retiring and be on a rocking chair, I don't think it's in the cards for me, because I saw my mother retiring at 52.
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00:18:37.752And it was a very very long retirement.
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00:18:45.213What do you do from 52 to 79 when you don't have nothing much to do?
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00:18:55.170And I saw my dad being very pumped all the way to 75, being active and having a company, you know.
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00:19:12.016So always have those two pictures, my dad and my mom, in my head running my business with yeah, okay, an exit plan, but an exit plan for what exactly?
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00:19:15.204Okay, for the next chapter in your life, you know.
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00:19:19.413But to retire and do nothing?
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00:19:20.294Probably not.
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00:19:21.141Yeah, it's funny.
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00:19:24.730I mean I spent 20 years in corporate and I thought I was going to.
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00:19:30.031I was going to, you know, really take a lot of time off at age 40, 41 and think about what I wanted to do.
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00:19:31.824And, um, I was.
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00:19:38.865I was very, I would say, fortunate, lucky, right guy, right time, right place, right clients Um, uh, probably did better in the business than I thought I would ever do.
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00:19:55.007And but then you, as a driven, competitive person, sitting still is not a good option, and I found quickly that I was like I want to, and so that's what kind of led me to write my book, start this podcast, and then this coaching and speaking journey found me and now I love it.
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00:20:08.848I love it so much and so it's and what's fun is like as a dad, I can kind of show my kids like Kind of what you did, the pivot of like you left the family business and you've pivoted and you figured something else out and you're being successful in this.
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00:20:20.676But I think it's those journeys of kind of like trying to stay in this growth mindset and I hope, when I'm 96 and grown and then old folk home and I'm learning how to do something else and figuring something different.
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00:20:27.643Out of curiosity, where do you think your dad's drive came from?
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00:20:28.023Uh, it came from.
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00:20:32.352Uh, he was the first one in all our families being in business.
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00:20:52.526Okay, and uh, in montreal, the way we were raised, you know, and uh, I, I don't want at all, casey, to do any politics during the podcast, you know, but it's more like the facts of life.
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00:21:02.969You know, we're French, okay, and back in the days businesses were mainly on the English side.
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00:21:11.990So in Montreal we're barely at the third generation of business owners speaking French.
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00:21:21.511So our grand-grandfather were mainly working for English-speaking folks.
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00:21:32.104So all my, if we look at all the chevrettes from back, back back in the days, none of them were in business.
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00:21:42.487And my dad's drive is I will show you, I will break the cycle of working for someone else.
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00:21:50.528Everybody in the family work for someone else, I will work for myself.
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00:21:58.165And that was a drive Like it was more than a drive, it was like a fire.
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00:22:08.271My dad had so much passion be his own boss and grow and build something.
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00:22:22.413You know, I mean, he was very, very proud of the number of families over the years that had the money to pay for their kids and their things, you know.
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00:22:35.605So when he sold the company, his main focus was not how much money I will make with the company, but are you going to keep all the workers and continue the the project you know?
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00:22:41.711So, yeah, I I learned a lot from from my dad, business wise.
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00:22:44.445We have wonderful discussions together.
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00:22:46.872That's awesome, that's so cool.
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00:23:01.890As you think back to this journey of growing up, at what point did you kind of stop and were present about your dad's entrepreneurial skills that made you kind of piqued your curiosity or your interest to say, well, I want to do that, I want to be like my dad.
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00:23:17.691Yeah, to be 100% honest with you, I always, as a kid, saw my dad so high in the sky competing against who he was.
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00:23:31.913For me as a character in the community, in the business world, it was almost like an unachievable goal, okay.
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00:23:47.108And deep inside there was always like a friendly competition between me and not him because he's not competing with me.
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00:23:57.198You know, I mean, but me, there's always that five-year-old kid that wants to make his dad proud, uh.
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00:24:15.861So basically, uh, I was driven by showing my dad that I could do something as valuable as him without ever telling him Okay.
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00:24:44.887So it's more like we're always a five-year-old kid for someone and even if I'm 55 today, I will always be a five-year-old kid taking care of the farm while he's away and you don't want him to come back and be unhappy with the work you've done and it drove me all my life.
00:24:44.887 -->
00:24:56.932Today I need to free up myself in a sense, you know, from that pressure because at the end of the day, you achieve what you achieve.
00:24:56.932 -->
00:25:06.015You do what you do because you love to do it, but it's a journey to do it, you know.
00:25:08.199 -->
00:25:13.266What is your daughter's name to do it, you know um.
00:25:13.266 -->
00:25:13.948What is your daughter's name?
00:25:13.988 -->
00:25:16.815eugenie, eugenie I actually used to have a eugenie.
00:25:16.815 -->
00:25:17.636Is it governor eugenie or eugenie?
00:25:17.636 -->
00:25:17.737Yeah?
00:25:18.317 -->
00:25:23.154in french we say eugenie, so I um, there was a client of mine shout out to eugenie dow, if you're out there.
00:25:23.154 -->
00:25:26.509I, that was my, one of my clients in business and she was from montreal or canada.
00:25:26.509 -->
00:25:28.396Really, yeah, she's from canada and she was from Montreal or Canada.
00:25:28.396 -->
00:25:30.988Yeah, she was from Canada and she's fantastic.
00:25:30.988 -->
00:25:35.448I really enjoyed working with her back in the day, but that was the uh, it was another Eugenie, I know and then she went.
00:25:35.448 -->
00:25:40.590I can't remember where she went after that, but I've talked to her in years, but there's two out there that at least I know now.
00:25:40.590 -->
00:26:03.008So my question is for that journey of grit and resilience and hard work that your dad and mom taught you, um journey of grit and resilience and hard work that your dad and mom taught you and the entrepreneurial spirit as you, when you, when you and your wife were together and even if you're not together now, it's just as a parent what were some of the, the core values you taught Eugenie that are most important to you?
00:26:05.891 -->
00:26:12.836basically, I try to do a little bit the opposite.
00:26:12.836 -->
00:26:17.461I think that life is like a pendulum.
00:26:17.461 -->
00:26:22.567Some people felt pressure from their parents.
00:26:22.567 -->
00:26:36.878So even if the parents didn't want to put pressure, you know, when I have discussion with my mother or my dad, they're hard-working people and they didn't put pressure per se with a desire to put pressure.
00:26:36.878 -->
00:26:39.345It's just the way they live their life.
00:26:39.345 -->
00:26:43.049And I felt the pressure me.
00:26:44.291 -->
00:27:04.967I tried to put uh, no pressure on my daughter, but I realized with the art to art discussion that we have some time that even if I tried my hardest not to put any pressure, she felt the pressure.
00:27:04.967 -->
00:27:09.874And the pressure is not in words.
00:27:09.874 -->
00:27:21.959The pressure sometimes is just in the way I live my life, the way I talk about my job, the way I talk about my employees and my business.
00:27:21.959 -->
00:27:36.833It's definitely not the pressure per se that I put on her, but I realized that the way I am, who I am, I did exactly the same thing that I didn't want to do.
00:27:36.833 -->
00:27:42.926So I felt the pressure, even if my parents didn't want to put pressure.
00:27:42.926 -->
00:27:53.320I didn't want to put pressure on her, but I think unconsciously I put pressure on her the way I operate my life.
00:27:55.990 -->
00:27:56.813When did she tell you that?
00:27:58.766 -->
00:28:05.298The last couple of months have been more open-heart discussion.
00:28:05.298 -->
00:28:06.891You know, she's 25.
00:28:06.891 -->
00:28:13.275She felt pressure also when we uh, when we divorce.
00:28:13.275 -->
00:28:28.796Uh, she was more because I I was honestly a little bit like my dad, you know, traveling most of the week, so she spent more time with, uh, my ex-wife, who was a teacher also at the time.
00:28:28.796 -->
00:28:32.361So I call them the Velcro sisters.
00:28:32.361 -->
00:28:38.125They were really close to each other and Eugenie was 12.
00:28:38.125 -->
00:28:46.633So obviously she stayed with her mom and I saw her one weekend out of two, okay, weekend out of two, okay.
00:28:47.773 -->
00:29:06.530But when she grew up and they moved not too far from where I was living, I thought that, uh, it would be a good thing.
00:29:06.530 -->
00:29:18.556You know that the she spent one week with me, one week with uh, with her mom and things like that, and for her I didn't again, I didn't know that, you know, I mean, it's a discussion that we've been having since a couple of months on different subjects.
00:29:18.556 -->
00:29:26.315But she felt that pressure of having to choose between mom and dad.
00:29:26.315 -->
00:29:52.125And she told me and I was flabbergasted you know, casey, to be honest with you, as a dad, you want to do well, you don't want to, but I think every parent should pay the first 10 sessions to the shrink, to their kids, because this is a cycle, a cycle that we keep going after, you know.
00:29:52.125 -->
00:29:59.276I mean every kid will say that their parents screwed them up and it's going to be like that for another hundred years.
00:30:00.924 -->
00:30:05.270Joking aside, you know she said oh, dad, you know why do you think?
00:30:05.270 -->
00:30:18.898I left the house at 18 years old To make sure that I was not feeling the pressure from none of you.
00:30:18.898 -->
00:30:20.609Where am I going to live?
00:30:20.609 -->
00:30:26.637I will live by myself and I don't have to choose, because I love you both.
00:30:26.637 -->
00:30:31.539That's pretty tough, sure.
00:30:31.640 -->
00:30:35.915I can't imagine that when you have that kind of discussion, you know, with your daughter.
00:30:35.915 -->
00:30:58.361She was not sour about it, you know, but she, she, she, she has the, the, the strength, and I, I don't think I will ever have that kind of strength at 25 years of age, you know, to be able to say that to your dad.
00:30:58.361 -->
00:31:12.280I'm 55, and even if I have great discussion with my dad, I will never go that far or that close or in depth with explanation.
00:31:12.280 -->
00:31:23.938Maybe it's the fact that she's studying in that field, but I'm very impressed with how mature she is.
00:31:23.938 -->
00:31:29.518You know, she's a very surprising young woman.
00:31:31.045 -->
00:31:31.506Well, I will.
00:31:31.506 -->
00:31:33.311I will without knowing you.
00:31:33.311 -->
00:31:33.833Well, this is.
00:31:33.833 -->
00:31:43.724I met you once in person, I've talked to you twice on zoom, but as you're telling me that story, like she, she learned that from, I would think, mom and dad, so I would, I'm going to give you guys credit.
00:31:43.724 -->
00:31:49.458Like, yeah, she's going to school, but somewhere along that journey she had learned how to communicate.
00:31:49.458 -->
00:31:50.380She learned how to communicate.
00:31:50.380 -->
00:31:54.015She learned how to do the things that your dad taught you, that you've taught her.
00:31:54.015 -->
00:32:02.496Maybe it was the way she learned it, but I would be one to bet it was something you and your wife did and she Definitely a little bit, a little bit of uh each of us in there.
00:32:03.386 -->
00:32:12.417But uh, kudos to her, uh, and how grown up she is to have that kind of deep discussion with her parents.
00:32:12.417 -->
00:32:15.849No, I'm very proud of her.
00:32:16.913 -->
00:32:17.394That's awesome.
00:32:17.394 -->
00:32:18.911Well, and then I think that's the goal.
00:32:18.911 -->
00:32:21.119You mentioned sports earlier.
00:32:21.119 -->
00:32:23.171Yeah, you said not her thing.
00:32:23.171 -->
00:32:26.434Where did your love of sports come from and what sports did you play?
00:32:28.705 -->
00:32:28.885Me.
00:32:28.885 -->
00:32:29.487You saw me.
00:32:29.487 -->
00:32:30.990You know I'm six foot tall.
00:32:30.990 -->
00:32:39.008But back in the days, you know, I was always the shortest guy in the team.
00:32:39.008 -->
00:32:42.391I grew up when I was 15.
00:32:42.391 -->
00:32:48.214So a little bit late, but I was an amazing hockey player, but too small.
00:32:48.214 -->
00:33:03.256So when you play physical, all the guys that I was making fun of when I was so fast but they couldn't touch me because there was no body check.
00:33:03.256 -->
00:33:10.134When body check came I was crushed because I was so small.
00:33:10.134 -->
00:33:17.886So at the time I stopped playing hockey and I became a very good soccer player.
00:33:17.886 -->
00:33:21.730I was maybe 16 years of age.
00:33:21.730 -->
00:33:32.901I played in two teams, I started a soccer school for the kids in my village and I was a referee and a coach.
00:33:38.404 -->
00:33:42.647So I usually do things on the excessive side.
00:33:42.667 -->
00:33:59.580I wonder where you learned that Play in two teams, start a soccer school, be a referee and be a coach yeah, so no, soccer became my passion and I really, really, really enjoyed that sport.
00:33:59.580 -->
00:34:09.737Now I'm back to playing hockey twice a week, but I always played sports, so hockey and soccer are the main one for me.
00:34:09.737 -->
00:34:11.019Me, this is what I enjoy.
00:34:11.019 -->
00:34:13.045I know you're a football player.
00:34:13.987 -->
00:34:16.414I love yeah, I love football, but actually I love hockey.
00:34:16.414 -->
00:34:17.958Hockey is one of my favorite sports.
00:34:17.958 -->
00:34:19.789I'm a big seattle kraken fan.
00:34:19.789 -->
00:34:22.634Oh yeah, we let me, my son.
00:34:22.634 -->
00:34:24.117We watch almost every game together.
00:34:24.719 -->
00:34:31.889Um, I was lucky enough to interview a guy named john Forslund, who's the Seattle Kraken play-by-play announcer, and it was.
00:34:31.889 -->
00:34:40.932If you're a hockey guy, you got to find this episode because when Forslund was seven years old and I asked him, I said how did you know you wanted to be a hockey announcer growing up?
00:34:40.932 -->
00:34:42.952He said when I was seven, I told my dad.
00:34:42.952 -->
00:34:46.166I asked my dad when his buddies would come over to watch the Bruins play.
00:34:46.166 -->
00:34:47.449His buddies would come over to watch the Bruins play.
00:34:47.469 -->
00:34:51.617I said, dad, could we put the game on mute and I'll announce the game to your friends?
00:34:51.617 -->
00:34:57.603And his dad said, sure, I'll let you do that.
00:34:57.603 -->
00:35:12.414And I mean I said, man, johnny, I don't think your dad's a better dad than me, because I would have told my son to beat it Like, hey, no, I'm going to have my buddies over, but to have the grace and the patience to be able to let your son, like ignite his passion.
00:35:12.414 -->
00:35:15.806And now he's probably in his fifties now and he's one of the best hockey announcers in all of the NHL so that's an amazing story.
00:35:15.846 -->
00:35:17.809Yeah, yeah, it's fun.
00:35:17.809 -->
00:35:19.934Well, seven years, seven years old.
00:35:19.934 -->
00:35:20.916Yeah, exactly.
00:35:21.438 -->
00:35:27.157Hello everybody, my name's Craig Coe and I'm the senior vice president of relationship management for Beeline.
00:35:27.157 -->
00:35:33.735For more than 20 years, we've been helping Fortune 1000 companies drive a competitive advantage with their external workforce.
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00:35:39.634In fact, beeline's history of first-to-market innovations has become today's industry standards.
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00:35:44.175I get asked all the time what did Casey do for your organization?
00:35:44.175 -->
00:35:46.331And I say this it's simple.
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00:35:47.889The guy flat out gets it.
00:35:47.889 -->
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00:36:04.092In fact, his book Win the Relationship and Not the Deal has become required reading for all new members of the global relationship management team.
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00:36:20.153Now let's get back to today's episode.
00:36:22.266 -->
00:36:29.027As you think about all the lessons you said and this story is fantastic and this is what I love about this podcast is just getting to know people and dads at home.
00:36:29.027 -->
00:36:31.596It does not take a podcast to have conversations like these.
00:36:31.596 -->
00:36:34.914It takes us a little curiosity and time, which we all have.
00:36:34.914 -->
00:36:36.411It's a choice if you want to use it.
00:36:36.411 -->
00:36:48.797So, as you think about, um, if you had to say two or three values that you learned from your dad that, uh, you and your, your wife or ex-wife were, were really wanted to teach Eugenie, what would?
00:36:48.797 -->
00:36:49.998What would what comes to?
00:36:50.065 -->
00:36:51.887mind.
00:36:51.887 -->
00:36:59.233Perseverance is probably what describe our family DNA.
00:36:59.233 -->
00:37:02.675We're not quitters.
00:37:02.675 -->
00:37:09.460We persevere in different fields but we persevere.
00:37:09.460 -->
00:37:28.039My mother back in the days it was not very popular for teachers to go to university, you know, I mean she was born in the 44 but she did her university by night.
00:37:28.039 -->
00:37:30.222It took her 10 years.
00:37:30.222 -->
00:37:42.498So even if she was not a business person, perseverance was really a value that she had.
00:37:42.498 -->
00:37:56.945She still has, and my dad business-wise and all the projects, dad business wise and all the projects.
00:37:56.945 -->
00:38:03.679So I think this value is passed to eugenie a lot and I see that in the way she tackled problems that she faced in life.
00:38:03.679 -->
00:38:07.166So perseverance is really dear to my heart.
00:38:07.166 -->
00:38:07.626Yeah.
00:38:08.728 -->
00:38:10.010Yeah, love it.
00:38:10.010 -->
00:38:14.597What else comes to mind besides being able to persevere, follow your goals, follow your dreams?
00:38:15.480 -->
00:38:27.097Yeah, for us, being proud of what we accomplish is wonderful, but humility is a great value.
00:38:27.097 -->
00:38:33.005To succeed at what you do, that's great.
00:38:33.005 -->
00:38:35.072You pat yourself on the back.
00:38:35.072 -->
00:38:45.639But humility is the key for me, because I saw my dad being very not successful.
00:38:45.639 -->
00:38:47.849I will give you an idea.
00:38:48.070 -->
00:39:01.340At one point it was so funny the sheep that we had were sheep, not for the wool but for the meat, okay, very bulky sheep.
00:39:01.340 -->
00:39:08.697And we my job was to do exhibition.
00:39:08.697 -->
00:39:24.722So during the winter you take care of the farm, but during the summer months you go from one city to the other doing exhibition to show to judges and the public your results.
00:39:24.722 -->
00:39:39.786You know when you have judges.
00:39:39.786 -->
00:39:45.009You know if you've been to agriculture exhibition, you know there's a judge and he goes, and one to whatever, and he classified the sheep.
00:39:45.009 -->
00:39:46.690So the first time my dad did it, I mean it was a disaster.
00:39:46.690 -->
00:39:52.373Okay, he showed up with the sheep and knew nothing, and my dad is my hero.
00:39:52.373 -->
00:40:08.103But to cut properly the wool on top you say wool, the wool on top of the sheep he took a very sharp automatic razor.
00:40:08.103 -->
00:40:11.934Okay, and that's not what you're supposed to take.
00:40:11.934 -->
00:40:12.846So what he did?
00:40:12.846 -->
00:40:18.775He damaged the body of the sheep so bad.
00:40:18.775 -->
00:40:21.786You know that there was blood all over the place.
00:40:21.846 -->
00:40:27.286You know because he was going two, three inches cut, cut the meat two, three inches cut the meat.
00:40:28.168 -->
00:40:34.255And every time you cut the meat, you know I mean there's blood, so there's a spray, a blue spray that you put.
00:40:34.255 -->
00:40:54.626So it's almost like if the judge had to judge sheep and also a blue leopard because he had so much spot on top of his back because of the cut, but that we still think and talk about it.
00:40:54.626 -->
00:41:08.512You know, but my dad after that, you know, he didn't stop, he kept at it and learn and made me learn how to do and how to trim the sheep and take some courses and things like that.
00:41:08.512 -->
00:41:13.518So it's, it's very it's.
00:41:13.518 -->
00:41:26.596It's really the way we are, you know, I mean you, you start and you suffer, you win after, but you know where you're coming from.
00:41:26.596 -->
00:41:44.789So you stay humble because you know you were not always on top of the mountain, you started at the bottom, you made mistakes and along the way you correct the direction and you move up the ladder.
00:41:45.471 -->
00:42:00.358But humility is something that we appreciate and winning as a team is more enjoyable than winning by yourself.
00:42:00.358 -->
00:42:07.498So we were and there's nothing good or bad, you know.
00:42:07.498 -->
00:42:11.175I mean some people are people prefer to win by themselves.
00:42:11.175 -->
00:42:22.577Me, even, when I do something great, I never do it alone, because I have 15, 20 people in my team and we all have a part to play.
00:42:22.577 -->
00:42:51.034And for me, when we win a contract or we win something, I'm always speaking in the we, because I learned that from my dad also the humility, even if you win, so you don't rub it in the face of others because you succeeded, you celebrate with humility.
00:42:51.804 -->
00:42:52.628Love it, I love.
00:42:52.628 -->
00:42:54.759Humility is one of my core values that drives me.
00:42:54.759 -->
00:42:57.106The other two are curiosity and vulnerability.
00:42:57.106 -->
00:43:04.065My football coach in college told me Casey, if you ever have to tell me how good you are, you're not that good.
00:43:04.065 -->
00:43:05.166When you're great, I'll tell you.
00:43:05.166 -->
00:43:09.268That always stuck with me.
00:43:09.268 -->
00:43:11.650Great, I'll tell you.
00:43:11.650 -->
00:43:12.730That always stuck with me.
00:43:12.789 -->
00:43:15.692And even at K-Force I was lucky enough to be.
00:43:15.692 -->
00:43:20.653If I would win an award, I'd get on stage and I'd give a speech every year at this awards trip.
00:43:20.653 -->
00:43:27.077And one of the things that drove me was not the recognition, wasn't the financial awards, wasn't the trip.
00:43:27.077 -->
00:43:33.121It was when my CEO said man Casey, you've had a bigger year this year than you did last year, but you're more humble this year.
00:43:33.121 -->
00:43:33.780I don't get it.
00:43:33.780 -->
00:43:47.202And that's what drove me, because I didn't want to be someone that people thought, oh, what an arrogant prick.
00:43:47.202 -->
00:43:47.784I didn't want, I didn't.
00:43:47.804 -->
00:43:49.766I don't know if that's you know playing court, the position of, of playing quarterback.
00:43:49.766 -->
00:43:56.577It's like the goal is to get, inspire 10 people to play really, really hard for you in the huddle and then have your defense play hard for you.
00:43:56.577 -->
00:44:00.413Your coaches play hard for I mean all these things, and so it's like that position of quarterback.
00:44:00.413 -->
00:44:04.429That's why kind of the theme of this podcast is, you know, quarterback can be a leader on a team.
00:44:04.429 -->
00:44:08.360A dad think about ways to sharpen your leadership skills as a home.
00:44:08.360 -->
00:44:13.432And moms can be leaders leaders too but this is just ways to like help dads improve their leadership skills.
00:44:13.432 -->
00:44:16.606Um, so I love that you're teaching humility.
00:44:16.606 -->
00:44:19.273Um, I love perseverance.
00:44:19.273 -->
00:44:24.577Like you know, life's gonna throw us challenges we all know that but it's, it's how you you know.
00:44:24.577 -->
00:44:26.164There's another great quote.
00:44:26.164 -->
00:44:30.492Someone told me that's the guy, tony bennett, who's a basketball coach in the united states.
00:44:30.512 -->
00:44:39.565He said that adversity is life's golden ticket yes so, when you lean, when you can, when you have challenges, like instead of like complaining or oh, this sucks, like, we'll lean into it.
00:44:39.565 -->
00:44:41.032Well, why is this happening to me?
00:44:41.032 -->
00:44:42.155What can I learn from it?
00:44:42.155 -->
00:44:45.807What can make a choice, figure out the positive to get back on track.
00:44:45.807 -->
00:44:47.210So love this.
00:44:47.231 -->
00:44:48.233This is a fun conversation, man.
00:44:48.233 -->
00:44:49.476I really enjoyed learning more about you.
00:44:49.476 -->
00:45:22.893One of the questions I also like asking dads is and you kind of talked about it with pressure, so I don't know if the answer will be different but as you think about an area of your dad game that you maybe isn't or wasn't exactly where you wanted it, and an area where you wanted to improve as a dad, or maybe you're still working to improve as a dad, and mine is I'll lead my witness here, eric mine's patience as a competitive driven guy, sometimes my patience gets the best, me and but having this podcast and being able to talk to people like yourself and 230 other dads so far, it's like free therapy.
00:45:22.893 -->
00:45:27.550So for you, tell me what comes to mind as an area of your dad game that you're working hard to become a better leader.
00:45:30.079 -->
00:45:33.827So the question is how my dad helped me become a better leader.
00:45:33.827 -->
00:45:35.967This is it, Casey, Sorry.
00:45:36.572 -->
00:45:38.521No, it's okay, I said more for you.
00:45:38.521 -->
00:45:43.628What is an area of you as a dad, maybe an area that you're looking to become better?
00:45:43.628 -->
00:45:48.867What part of you is it you want to improve, this part of you being the way you parent?
00:45:49.795 -->
00:45:56.869Yeah, I have a tendency to block myself from emotions.
00:45:56.869 -->
00:46:14.030Okay, so I keep it on the surface, that way I don't have to go too deep and feel uncomfortable, and my daughter is a great coach because she will tell it to you the way it is.
00:46:14.030 -->
00:46:23.764So, basically, as a protection mechanism, sometimes you keep it to the surface, you know.
00:46:23.764 -->
00:46:27.327That way you don't have to feel uncomfortable.
00:46:27.327 -->
00:46:44.326So I think that what would make me a better dad would be to follow her footstep and open up a little bit more with her, with tough discussions, which it's not natural for me.
00:46:46.195 -->
00:46:50.755It's maybe it's my generation, you know I mean my dad never opened up to me my mother, neither.
00:46:50.755 -->
00:46:52.418You know I mean my dad never opened up to me.
00:46:52.418 -->
00:46:54.000My mother, neither, you know.
00:46:54.000 -->
00:46:55.340I mean it was like more.
00:46:55.340 -->
00:46:58.443You do what you have to do and that's it.
00:46:58.443 -->
00:47:19.344You know and I don't use that as an excuse at all I want to be a better person, I want to be a better dad and definitely, if there was something that I could do better would be to let go the goalie a little bit.
00:47:19.344 -->
00:47:24.739You know, I mean my goalie is very fast, you know, I mean I'm like, I'm like flurry, I mean the equipment goes back up, you know, and uh.
00:47:24.739 -->
00:47:25.360So.
00:47:25.420 -->
00:47:26.322I need to let go.
00:47:26.943 -->
00:47:27.806Yeah, that's it.
00:47:27.806 -->
00:47:28.367So I let.
00:47:28.367 -->
00:47:32.958I need to let go a little bit the goalie and the pads and open up a little bit more.
00:47:33.500 -->
00:47:34.702Let's go with an empty netter.
00:47:34.702 -->
00:47:35.623Let them score.
00:47:35.623 -->
00:47:36.643That's it.
00:47:36.643 -->
00:48:09.856That's it, yeah, but I mean what you just said is so powerful, eric, because it's being vulnerable, and I think once we all, as dads or leaders or teammates or whatever we are we're all flawed humans, that is, we all have that in common I've yet to meet the perfect person.
00:48:09.856 -->
00:48:11.898Uh, if you're out there, call me Mr Perfect, mr Mrs Perfect person, cause I haven't met him yet.
00:48:11.898 -->
00:48:12.960Um, so it's like sooner we can just admit that.
00:48:12.960 -->
00:48:15.563Then at least we know okay, it's okay to mess up it, just let's do something about it.
00:48:15.563 -->
00:48:17.706It's okay not to know something, but let's do something about it, and I love that answer.
00:48:17.706 -->
00:48:29.288Okay, for people that don't know about IT360 Financial when I first met you guys at the TechServe conference in Florida, I had not heard you guys before.
00:48:29.288 -->
00:48:31.679So educate us about the business.
00:48:31.679 -->
00:48:33.481How can people learn more about you?
00:48:33.481 -->
00:48:35.264How can people learn more about the company?
00:48:35.264 -->
00:48:37.088I'd love to learn more about it.
00:48:39.014 -->
00:48:39.416Thank you.
00:48:39.416 -->
00:48:45.961So it goes back to how my dad had to fight against the 700 pound gorilla.
00:48:45.961 -->
00:49:07.335My dad was smaller but he was way more agile and when I started the financial services I did exactly what he showed me is niche market one-stop shop.
00:49:07.335 -->
00:49:12.583So the offer that we put together is a one-stop shop financial planning, accounting and all services that independent contractors would need.
00:49:12.583 -->
00:49:48.998So we team up with agencies, staffing firms and staffing agencies in Canada and now we opened up in the States last year where basically we work in conjunction with the staffing firm to add value to their offering by showing their independent contractors that one-stop shop that can help them out with everything they need to navigate their independent contractors life and career.
00:49:48.998 -->
00:49:54.885So we do, we create corps for those guys.
00:49:54.885 -->
00:50:03.003We do bookkeeping, accounting, payrolling, insurance, pension plan, everything.
00:50:03.003 -->
00:50:14.344So the one-stop shop that my dad created in the paper industry that's exactly what I wanted to create and not to the masses.
00:50:14.344 -->
00:50:23.905But I have only one client independent contractors incorporated in Canada and in the United States.
00:50:24.806 -->
00:50:31.405That's what we do wow, as you, as you kind of broaden the, the service offering to United States from Canada.
00:50:31.405 -->
00:50:33.416What was was it?
00:50:33.416 -->
00:50:36.304Easier than you expected, harder than you expected?
00:50:36.304 -->
00:50:37.226What surprised you?
00:50:38.456 -->
00:50:44.844Easier as far as the opening A lot of firms that we met at TechServe Alliance.
00:50:44.844 -->
00:50:58.306That was really our first appearance in the States and we saw that there was a need and the embrace idea.
00:50:58.306 -->
00:51:12.860What's more difficult now, where it's done but, was to create and work with different products, different state laws, different taxes.
00:51:12.860 -->
00:51:29.597But after this has been said and done, it's pretty similar.
00:51:29.597 -->
00:51:33.311Okay, basically, you're an independent contractor, you want to protect your capacity to earn a living, so you need disability coverage.
00:51:33.311 -->
00:51:38.425You want to minimize the amount of taxes you pay to maximize your retirement.
00:51:38.425 -->
00:51:40.811It's very similar.
00:51:40.811 -->
00:51:44.780Yeah, the products, the strategies will change a little bit.
00:51:44.780 -->
00:51:49.188We had to adapt the service offering to the states.
00:51:50.054 -->
00:51:56.108But as far as the relationship with staffing firms, they really, really embrace.
00:51:56.108 -->
00:52:00.021Oh boy, I mean, I didn't know there was someone doing it.
00:52:00.021 -->
00:52:02.585That's great.
00:52:02.585 -->
00:52:07.938That's pretty easy to do business with you because it's an easy button.
00:52:07.938 -->
00:52:18.731You don't have to extend your neck as a staffing firm and improvise to say things that you shouldn't say.
00:52:18.731 -->
00:52:36.264You just bring those guys to the IT360 financial program where those guys will do all the evaluation for their contractors, recommend what best suits them, is it LLC, s-corps, what to do with the money.
00:52:36.264 -->
00:52:40.682So no, the response has been very, very good.
00:52:41.786 -->
00:52:42.226Very cool.
00:52:42.226 -->
00:52:46.485I love that in the spirit of dads.
00:52:46.485 -->
00:52:47.648That's what we're talking about here.
00:52:47.648 -->
00:52:51.443Like everything you learn from your dad, you're applying it, you've shared it with Eugenie.
00:52:51.443 -->
00:53:01.775She's even kind of challenging you, with which I love and you're, and you're vulnerable enough to learn, which is obviously probably bringing tightening up your relationship with your daughter that much better.
00:53:01.775 -->
00:53:08.438Hence the, the great meals you have once a month, and the, the food, or, however, how often, how often you guys get to get together?
00:53:08.438 -->
00:53:11.465Um, what's the best way?
00:53:11.465 -->
00:53:16.117If people want to learn more about you, how can I, how can I make sure that they can learn about you?
00:53:16.117 -->
00:53:17.581What's, what's the best place to send them?
00:53:18.885 -->
00:53:31.485basically it's echevrettefinancesti360.com for an email or just go on the website IT360 Financial.
00:53:31.485 -->
00:53:35.329So just Google IT360 Financial.
00:53:35.329 -->
00:53:47.157You will end up on my website and will be more and more present in the States In 2024, we're doing four or five different staffing shows.
00:53:47.157 -->
00:53:51.005Really enjoyed the experience with TechServe Alliance.
00:53:51.005 -->
00:53:52.349Met a lot of great people.
00:53:52.349 -->
00:53:59.641Enjoyed the experience with TechServe Alliance, met a lot of great people.
00:53:59.641 -->
00:54:01.182I met you, which is something, so thank you for having me.
00:54:01.182 -->
00:54:13.528It was really a great experience to open up with you and your people, so thank you for that, casey, really appreciate it.
00:54:14.454 -->
00:54:16.684You bet, man, We'll make sure all this is tagged in the show notes.
00:54:16.684 -->
00:54:23.367It's now time, Eric, what I call the lightning round, where I ask you questions.
00:54:23.367 -->
00:54:24.396I have no idea what I'm going to ask.
00:54:24.396 -->
00:54:33.012This is going to show you the negative hits of taking too many hits in college not bong hits, but football hits and which I have a screw loose upstairs.
00:54:33.012 -->
00:54:34.295You're going to find this out in a second.
00:54:34.295 -->
00:54:37.023Uh, your job is to answer them as quickly as you can.
00:54:37.023 -->
00:54:38.507My job is to get a giggle out of you.
00:54:39.755 -->
00:54:40.476That's wonderful.
00:54:41.157 -->
00:54:41.619Are you ready?
00:54:41.619 -->
00:54:43.362Yes, I am.
00:54:43.362 -->
00:54:45.206Okay, true or false.
00:54:45.206 -->
00:54:48.677You once taught Wayne Gretzky how to skate False.
00:54:48.677 -->
00:54:50.802Okay, true or false?
00:54:50.802 -->
00:54:55.809Strange brew two is going to come out in 2025 and you're going to be the lead character, false.
00:54:55.809 -->
00:54:57.820I just laughed at my own joke.
00:54:57.820 -->
00:55:00.938Have you seen strange brew?
00:55:00.938 -->
00:55:03.503No, oh, you got it.
00:55:03.503 -->
00:55:04.224You're a Canadian.
00:55:04.224 -->
00:55:04.927You got to see this.
00:55:04.927 -->
00:55:05.327It's one.
00:55:05.327 -->
00:55:06.681It is fine.
00:55:06.681 -->
00:55:10.478It is the worst movie, but you got to have it over a couple of beers.
00:55:10.478 -->
00:55:13.666It is an atrocious movie with Rick Moranis.
00:55:13.666 -->
00:55:14.715It's called.
00:55:14.735 -->
00:55:15.458Strange Brew.
00:55:15.800 -->
00:55:16.543Yeah, look it up.
00:55:18.538 -->
00:55:26.168You won't get life back, but you will Is it the one that he's wearing a very ugly cap.
00:55:26.168 -->
00:55:30.400It's called Strange Brew.
00:55:31.003 -->
00:55:33.621Strange Brew yeah, him and his brother Doug and Bob McKenzie.
00:55:33.621 -->
00:55:36.440They go up and they try to like.
00:55:36.440 -->
00:55:39.527It's such a hard way to describe, but it's funny.
00:55:40.295 -->
00:55:44.764Yeah, but they're wearing lumberjack outfit and something like that Is it?
00:55:44.764 -->
00:55:46.126Yeah, that's the one, eh.
00:55:46.126 -->
00:55:49.777Okay okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
00:55:49.777 -->
00:55:50.099Yeah.
00:55:52.865 -->
00:55:56.739Okay, tell me the last book you read Yours.
00:55:56.739 -->
00:55:58.985Oh, wow, did not know that.
00:55:58.985 -->
00:56:00.775Thank you very much.
00:56:00.775 -->
00:56:03.340Tell me your favorite comedy movie ever watched.
00:56:03.760 -->
00:56:04.822Wedding singer.
00:56:05.842 -->
00:56:06.804Okay, there we go.
00:56:06.804 -->
00:56:07.445I like that one.
00:56:07.445 -->
00:56:16.940If you and Eugenie a dad daughter trip you're going to go on a vacation right now Thailand, there we go.
00:56:16.940 -->
00:56:17.501That sounds fun.
00:56:17.501 -->
00:56:22.561If I was to come to your house for dinner tonight up in Quebec, what are we going to have?
00:56:24.144 -->
00:56:25.418You're going to have Thai food.
00:56:25.900 -->
00:56:26.362Sounds good.
00:56:26.362 -->
00:56:28.338I'm actually getting pretty hungry here.
00:56:28.338 -->
00:56:35.260If I was to go into your phone, what would be the one song that your company would be surprised you listen to?
00:56:35.701 -->
00:56:36.262The Cures.
00:56:37.322 -->
00:56:40.188Okay, friday I'm in Love Nice.
00:56:40.188 -->
00:56:40.949That's a good cut.
00:56:40.949 -->
00:56:42.740That's going to be in my head now, thank you.
00:56:42.740 -->
00:56:47.943Okay, if there was to be a book written about your life, tell me the title.
00:56:48.556 -->
00:56:49.298I wrote a book.
00:56:49.298 -->
00:56:52.514I told you it's coming out soon, okay.
00:56:52.534 -->
00:56:52.976I wrote a book.
00:56:53.016 -->
00:56:54.677I told you it's coming out soon.
00:56:54.677 -->
00:56:56.721There's a portion about my life.
00:56:56.721 -->
00:57:01.588But if it was about my life, I think it would be the Perseverance Junkie.
00:57:02.449 -->
00:57:03.309Perseverance Junkie.
00:57:03.309 -->
00:57:03.831I love that.
00:57:03.831 -->
00:57:08.045Okay Now, eric, the Perseverance Junkie is in every airport.
00:57:08.045 -->
00:57:09.880It's in Toronto, new York, buffalo.
00:57:09.880 -->
00:57:11.025It's selling out everywhere.
00:57:11.025 -->
00:57:14.425No one can get their hands on it because all the copies are gone.
00:57:14.425 -->
00:57:17.197So now Hollywood wants to make a movie and I need to know.
00:57:17.197 -->
00:57:18.362You are the casting director.
00:57:18.362 -->
00:57:21.242So who's going to star you in Perseverance Junkie?
00:57:21.242 -->
00:57:23.367Mark Wahlberg, there we go.
00:57:23.367 -->
00:57:25.402A little toughness, a little gritty.
00:57:25.402 -->
00:57:28.315I think you got him in height, though You're a little taller than Wahlberg, I think.
00:57:28.315 -->
00:57:30.918Yeah, I like his grit.
00:57:30.918 -->
00:57:33.300He is gritty, I know I love it.
00:57:33.300 -->
00:57:38.523Funny, funny, oh, yeah, okay, last question Tell me two words that describe Eugenie.
00:57:39.144 -->
00:57:41.045Curious and artistic.
00:57:41.887 -->
00:57:42.206Boom.
00:57:43.047 -->
00:57:46.130You made it out that time flew by my good man.
00:57:46.130 -->
00:57:47.552It's been a blast getting to know you.
00:57:47.552 -->
00:57:48.492I'm really, really grateful.
00:57:48.492 -->
00:57:52.204The serendipity of our meeting in Florida happened.
00:57:52.204 -->
00:57:55.838Thank you, team at TechServe.
00:57:55.838 -->
00:57:57.364I'm really grateful for my partnership with TechServe too.
00:57:57.364 -->
00:58:02.260It's been a fantastic, I would say, springboard to the work I'm doing as a coach and speaker.
00:58:02.260 -->
00:58:08.059If this episode has spoken to you at Dads at Home, please share it with someone else.
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00:58:19.043 -->
00:58:22.556But without further ado, I want to say thanks again, eric, for your time.
00:58:22.556 -->
00:58:23.097It's been great.
00:58:23.097 -->
00:58:28.239It's been really, really great getting to know you, and I wish you a really happy and healthy rest of the year.
00:58:28.239 -->
00:58:30.981My man, thank you buddy Take care.
00:58:31.001 -->
00:58:40.273thank you, buddy take care.
