Church & State -Restoring Washington with Alan Nolan

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Spokane Valley could become a sanctuary city. A different Houseman
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Caleb Collier says that this I'm.
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Opposing that the City of Spokane Valley issue of proclamation
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stating that our city is a second Amendae sanctuary. Welcome
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to the fire today on Church and State Restoring Washington
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with Alan Nolan. Hello Christian Patriots, and welcome to Church
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seventy six a proton dot me with that. It's my
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pleasure to introduce to you Alan Nolan. He is running
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for State Rep. District six. He's a lieutenant well retired
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lieutenant colonel in the United States Air Force, thank you
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for his service there, and lived in Spokan since twenty fifteen.
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He's got a beautiful family, two sons and a daughter wife.
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He's worked in private industry in the business environment, and
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he's also and some amazing things as a leader within
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the Meads School District and now running for six district. Alan,
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thanks for joining us.
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Thanks kill. I appreciate you having me on.
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Absolutely yeah, real pleasure. We got to know each other
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when you were running for Mead School District and Mead
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had some problems and then all of a sudden the
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people had it up to hear and decided to elect
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a whole bunch of conservatives.
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And that's actually gone pretty well. Yes, I appreciate you.
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You had me out so we could talk and let
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people know what's going on with the Mead School District
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and what our plans were, and you can see that
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in the time since we've brought on a conservative school
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board that although people had concerns that somehow we were
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going to create ideological conflict, it's been just the opposite.
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And what we've done is we've produced results, and a
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lot of that is the success that we've had there
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is a big part of the reason why I'm running
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because I see a lot of these similar, more broad
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problems at the state level, and I think that the
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skills that helped me at the Mood School District are
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the same ones are going to help change the conversation,
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move the needle there at the state.
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Yeah, I absolutely agree. You know, for a while in Spokane,
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you know County, there was this kind of this this war.
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It was a friendly war, but it was between Mead
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and Central Valley who was the best school district. Eighty
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One's was out you guys, sorry you were out. But
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it was this kind of soft war between Central Valley
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and Mead. And then all of a sudden, three Conservatives
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get elected. Only one got into Central Valley and it
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was like, oh, it shifted and it was like, Oh,
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it's obvious, Mead is the best school district and people
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want their kids in Mead school district.
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It is a great social school district. Don't take it
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personally district in one sorry, but there is the ability
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to transfer between districts. I'm just throwing that out there,
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and I love Central Valley too, but I'm very proudab
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we've been able to do. We've got great staff, and
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we've been able to support them by taking letting them
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focus on education, what their their core job is and
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the reason why that they're doing this mission. And one
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of the things we've been able to do recently that
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I think is just fantastic. We've actually been able to
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prove new curriculum that's something district hadn't been able to
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do for financial reasons for over a decade. And we
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brought in a instructural materials committee that was made up
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of both teachers and then a strong group of parents
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so that we made sure that there was good betting
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by the community as well and addition to our educators,
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and so we brought in new social studies curriculum for
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our middle school, stuff that hadn't been done for over
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a decade. Our teachers have been comming together just based
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on what they're finding out there on the internet, and
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that is going to allow. In fact, my daughter, this
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is pretty funny because when I brought the books home
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and re view them as well, she goes, oh, you've
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got the McGraw hill because she had been part she's
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in the middle school and she'd been part of this
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test bed of some of the curriculum, and so she's
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seen one of them that she didn't like at all,
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and she saw the other. So she was really excited
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to see that textbook. She didn't take me up on
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the offer though, when I said that she could study
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it some more while I had it there. I don't
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really understand with that.
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Sounds like a typical kid right there. What I love,
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especially as I'm looking at what you've accomplished, and not
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only in the school district, obviously within the business sector
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with your career in the Air Force. You are a
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man that is very solutions oriented. But what I love
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is you've jumped into government at that low level of
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the school board, which is phenomenal, and now you want
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to move up, and you want to move up to
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the state because there's a lot of problems in Washington State,
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and I see a man that's been tested through the
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school district, that's provided solutions that have actually worked, Why
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wouldn't we send you to Olympia.
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What I believe is we need to be looking at
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our politicians and judging them based on their confidence as
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well as their character, and not their character in terms
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of what they say, but what they do. So I
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would second that, and actually, let's jump into what you know,
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why those those skills, that background that I have that's
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actually allowing me to have success. So I moved here
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in twenty fifteen. After I retired out of the Air Force,
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I entered the Air Force through the academy. I grew
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up in Missisi actually, and so after I graduate the academy,
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went through pilot training, flew a couple of assignments in
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Blackhawk helicopters, a modified version of it. In fact, you
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may have for those of you who were watching the
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news when the war was going on with Iran, you
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saw the helicopters were flying over Iran in the middle
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of the day. That was a combat strich and rescue
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mission that I initially did, transition over did special operations
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for a couple of years, then had the opportunity to
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go and start flying F sixteen's, did that for a
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couple of assignments, had an exchange tour with the Canadians
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flying Canadian hornets, and then my last flying assignment, I
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was teaching new pilots how to fly become pilots in
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the Primary Trainer, which is the T six Texan down
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in Texas. Oddly enough, and got a chance to command
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a flying squadron there. Of course along the way, I've
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done other things where I'm deployed. I'm out in Jordan
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for one of my last assignments where we're helping to
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stand the Jordanian Air Force up when we went after
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ISIS kicked them out of Syria, and that sort of
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experience in the military where everybody's got a role. You
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stand up and sometimes you're the sporting individual, sometimes you're
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the leader, but you recognize you have a role, You
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work it together as a team, and your focus is
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on that mission, achieving that goal. And that's really the
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metric that we should be looking at.
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Absolutely. I mean, any veteran is going to have some
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certain leadership skills and abilities that are installed in them,
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and you know, especially at that level the tenant colonel.
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You know, they don't give that rank out to just anybody.
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Ladies and gentlemen. All right, you got to earn that
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for sure. So let's talk about Let's first talk about
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some problems in Olympia, okay, and then we'll get into solutions,
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because we always want to be solutions oriented on this show.
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I don't think it's hard for the people of Washington
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to look around, to maybe take their head away from
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their phone for a second and see that Washington has
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a lot of problems.
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The first one I think you look at is just
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we are complete irresponsible on the spending. So over the
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last eight years, the legislature's added about one hundred and
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thirty one billion dollars in new taxes, but we still
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have a deficit. How is that possible? And that spending
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from the state government is going well beyond what the
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population growth is, and you know, if it had matched
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the population growth, I could understand that. But clearly we're
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choosing to spend more on more things. And I don't
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know if anyone out there can look at their life
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and say, based on that spending, my life is better.
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I know mine is not. I know my roads are
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not better. I can't I know that the downtown is
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not safe. There's a whole range of things in my
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schools absolutely across the state are not better. They're getting
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better in med but we'll touch on that later. So
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the first thing, first thing we got to do is
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get spending under control. And ultimately part of the problem
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is that government is trying to solve all of our problems,
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and government should not be the solution. We need to
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hand that back to people. Having people make the decisions
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based on their own own individual needs and desires is
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a better long term solution for our state, as opposed
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to having somebody and leitch, somebody who believes that they
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know best for everyone else making a decision for everyone
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else without awareness of what their situation is.
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I completely agree with that. I mean, it's so obvious
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that throwing money in a problem is not working. And
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I love to apply this at just the individual level. Right,
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we make it simplistic so that everybody can see the
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point here. If you have I mean all of us
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are working, right, and you have a certain salary that
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you're getting, and if you spend above that, what do
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you have to do? Right? You got to go take
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out a loan, you got to go take out credit cards,
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and there's inflation and all of this that's associated with it.
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Right that credit card companies are making money, it doesn't
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work for very long. Right, your house is going to
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go under. You're going to have to declare bankruptcy. And
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that's the predicament that we find ourselves with our state
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right now, is they're just spending more and more money,
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and when it comes time to pay the piper, well
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they just look at the taxpayers and say, you get
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the bill.
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Yeah. And a competing podcast that I will not mention
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here because I don't want to advertise for them, on
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your show did a great job of talking about the
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difference between the two parties and who's representing them and
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what their background is.
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I don't mind if you say the podcast.
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No, no, I'm not going to do it. We're going We're
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not going there. But the short story it is, when
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you look at the Republicans, you've got people from law enforcement,
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you've got people from the military, you've got people from
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the business world. When you looked at the Democratic Party,
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you have labor activists, you've got folks from community leaders.
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Just to use a national type example, you've got teachers,
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people who are not the ones who are having to
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apply business sense and that bottom line type of outcome
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to make sure that the business can still remain. You know,
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these are folks who if they run out of money
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then they just go, well, we just need to get
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more money and use the force of the government in
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order to create that revenue stream for themselves, at least
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in the narraturn. And the business part of is a
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big part of why the qualifications that are bringing that's
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important and that I've had a successful business along with
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my wife for the last ten years. We've grown, We've
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provided good jobs to people, We've done a good job
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on the projects that get recognition based on that, and
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bringing that type of understanding of all of this ties
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into actually being able to stay solvent and being able
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to have what you have planned actually provide an outcome.
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Is that people want to voluntarily opt in for and
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pay their money for. That's how the free market is
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supposed to work, and we need to move more towards
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that type of idea in our government.
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I completely agree once again. You know, recently I was
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on a flight. I was coming back from Tulsa and
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I love Southern people because they're just so friendly. You know,
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in the Pacific Northwest, we're friendly, but we don't typically
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initiate the conversation. But the South, they're just like, hey,
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where are you from? You know? And so I got
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to talk you to this this father and son, they
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had never been this far west. They were heading here
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to Spokane to go to Cordelaine to play golf, and
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so they started asking me, like, what should we go
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and see? And I told them right off the bat
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bypassed Spokane. And I don't want to say that. Yeah,
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I want to be able to say that our downtown
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is beautiful, that the restaurant scene is great, the Riverfront
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sad reality is right now, I can't say that about
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my city. I don't want to direct some people from
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Tennessee to go get mugged downtown or to go watch
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people doing fentanyl out in the open.
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Yeah. Yeah, the U haul index is meaningful where the
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U hauls that are being rented for one way out
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of state far exceed those that are coming on in.
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And it's because we are not bringing accountability either to
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our government or within our communities and accountability is critical
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in terms of building safe and stable communities. The open
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air drug us that you see and we all when
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you drive downtown you see somebody. It's hard not to
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see it going on, and we need to solve that.
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That is not sympathetic in terms of allowing people to
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live outside in this sort of environment and continue to
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be addicted to drugs. That's not uplifting people. And that's
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the problem is that when we are spending this money,
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we aren't accountable in terms of trying to achieve results,
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and that has direct impacts because it's affecting other people's lives.
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Absolutely it is. And you know, Spokane has an interesting
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situation as well, being that we're so close to Idaho people.
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You know, maybe they're not necessarily moving yet a lot
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of people want to, but they are driving over to
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Post Falls, to quard Aline to do their shopping, to
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go get gasoline, to go to restaurants. It's kind of
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unique it really, as far as the rest of the
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state goes. I don't know really any other city that
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enjoys that benefit. Well, I should say major, you know,
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big city that enjoys that benefit for its citizens. But
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once again, We don't want that for Spokene. We want
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to keep our industry here, we want to keep the
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jobs here, and it's just not happening.
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That is absolutely true. You know, people are doing it
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because one, there's that incentive that's financial, but it's also
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I think because there's a bit of an idea that
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Olympia is not listening to me, so I'm going to
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go out of my way. Because obviously people who have
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driven it probably cost them money in order to go.
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Save that money or if you think about the time
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value of how long it takes you to do it,
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you probably doesn't pay out or it's pennies. But a
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lot of it is just like I do not want
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my money to go to Olympia, and that is why
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people are willing to do it as well. That's a
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that's a really dangerous place to be.
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It certainly is. And I mean, I mean, yeah, I
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actually I drive over for gasoline in Idaho all the time,
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and I live out in Green Bluff, so it's not
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exactly a quick trip for me. But also, you know,
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when I want to take my wife out to a
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you know, a nice romantic dinner, I think I'd rather
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go downtown Cordelaine. I can stare out at the lake
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not have pedestrians walking by me that are leveled and
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doing the you know, the fentanyl kind of zombie lurching.
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But go downtown Spokane and that's what you're gonna see.
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You know, that's not the type of romance you've got
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for your wife, you know, taking them and taken them
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to the zombie. But taking off the.
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People watching is fine. I guess, I guess you could
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say that for Spokane. You got the people watching down
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for sure. You know, growing up you know, I'm going
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off of your your bullet points here, but wanting our
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children to grow up have the same opportunities that we had,
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you know, you and I, we had a lot of opportunities.
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America was the land of opportunity, and it was primarily
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because of something that you just said, is that government
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shouldn't be the solution to every problem that we have.
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America used to be the country that grabbed ourselves by
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you know, by our well, just picked ourselves up by
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our boots straps and went along and accomplished things and
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dreamed and looked to the stars. We don't do that
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so much anymore.
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I'll tell you what one of the times when I
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was deployed in the military, we were in Kenya and
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I wasn't on this particular trip, but some of the
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guys who I served with, they went to a local
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school and one of the kids stood up and asked, basically, hey,
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you know why you why do you guys have so
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much money? And the guy who I had told me
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about it, he felt a little bit. He was almost apologetic.
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And I take the opposite approach. You know what, when
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our forefathers arrived here, it wasn't that all of these
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streets and highways and buildings were here and we just
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moved in. These were things that were built over time
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through hard work. And that the money to pay for
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that is not that we went on and we took
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it away from someone else. We created that based on
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our own labor. So I don't think that we need
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to be apologetic. American ingenuity and American drive is what
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has built America, and that has actually gone and it
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has been beneficial for the entire world because the money
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that we have and we spend has allowed others to,
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when they've got the opportunity, need chart their own course,
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build their own enterprise and build wealth within their family
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and within their community, within their nation. That is the
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model that I think we need to look for.
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Once again, we were in complete agreement to there. It's
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government is always the one that hassles us, that creates
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this bureaucratic red tape that you have to literally hire
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people to navigate through their system because you're violating this
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code or this law. We need to move away from that.
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We need to go back to being industrious people that
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see a problem and tackle it and provide solutions. And
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once again, like you said, you know, we've accomplished so
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much America when you look at all of the inventions
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and things that have benefited humanity, so much of that
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comes from America, and we seem to be on a
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downward spiral from that. But it's not too late. I
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really truly believe that it's not too late. We can
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pick this thing back up and go back to the
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original intent.
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Yeah. I'll touch on that last comment here in a moment,
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but what I want to actually just talk about what
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you said in terms of the red tape in the bureaucracy,
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and what I want to tell you about that is,
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so we're electing people for now, so we need people
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who are able to both deal with the situation and
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have a can chart a path forward to improving it.
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That's one of the things that I've learned how to
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do between being a business owner, being a director and
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the current vice president of the Need School Board, as
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well as in being in the military, is I understand
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and I can see how bureaucracies work and I know
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how to work within them. So I've got the ability
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to identify where there are the players where we can
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move forward, improve situations and make progress. And that's one
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of what we need to be looking for, is we
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need somebody who is able to has the skills already
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based on prior experience, to be able to work within
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what is a broke admittedly a broken system, all right,
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So that talks about on that that kind of addresses
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what we need to be doing in terms of having
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leaders who can fix problems now make things better. And
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now I'm going to turn back to what you said
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in terms of that hope from America. We talk about
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America being a beacon for the world, and that's why
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we've got so many people that are looking to come
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here because they see opportunity, they see freedoms, and they
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want that for themselves and for them their families. Bad
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policy here in Washington it's dimmed that. But I'll tell
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you that the people of Washington have not changed fundamentally,
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except for maybe the leftists that are out there. They're
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a little bit different. But well, that's a whole other topic. However,
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we still have that same light that flame within us
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within our state, and we've got the ability to turn
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around and turn Washington back into that crucible that gave
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us Google, Amazon, Starbucks, Microsoft, Boeing. That can be our future.
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I once again agree in all of those companies, by
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the way, ladies and gentlemen are moving, they're leaving the state.
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What do you think happens? It's a great question, right,
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no matter where you align politically speaking, when the top
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earners leave the state, where are the tax is going
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to come from? When you tax or eat the rich
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as you like to say, and they can move, they
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have the ability, they have the money to be able
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to move their entire operations to a more friendly state.
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What do you think is going to happen to us?
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That's a great question. I think the answer is rather obvious.
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All right. You also, on one of your bullet points.
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You talk, and I wanted to return to this. You
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want great schools, and we do, We truly do. And
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people who watch the show know I'm not a fan
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of public education. I do see that Meat is doing
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some really great things, but I'm a realist as well.
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I always preface this whenever I bring up this conversation.
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I know that a lot of people can't afford private schools,
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a lot of people don't feel capable to homeschool their kids.
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So with what we have, with a system that's currently
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available to us, we can improve upon public education. Alan
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sitting next to me is proof of that. But let's
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talk about wanting great schools throughout Washington.
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You know, Let's talk specifically actually on what we can
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do in order to help take our existing public school
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system and make it better. And one of those this
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is I've talked about some of the things that I've
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done on the media, school board and the business world,
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but even though I'm busy campaigning, I'm actually also taking
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other steps in order to help make our community better.
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One I'm standing against Prop one SDA. Prop one that's
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the Spokane trans.
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So thor beat me to the punch. I can't wait
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to talk about this one.
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I don't want to. I don't want to dip into that.
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But another one that's really important is the Federal Scholarship
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Tax Credit. This was passed in the most recent budget,
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the one big beautiful bill, And the short story on
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that is that, you know what, if you, as a citizen,
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were able to say, I want to take some of
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my federal tax money, money that I'm spending no matter what,
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and I want to dedicate that towards education, education where
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I want it to be, you know how I want
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to spend that's actually possible in twenty twenty seven based
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on the Federal Scholarship Tax Credit. What it allows is
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for or individuals to make a seventeen hundred dollars donation
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to what's called a scholarship granting organization. That scholarship granting
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organization can then provide scholarships. Now, typically when we think scholarship,
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we're thinking about an individual, but it doesn't have to be.
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It could be to a public school, it could be
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to a private school, It could be to an individual.
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It could cover things like textbooks, curriculum, It could cover
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additional teachers, a to help with kids who are having
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trouble reading. It's a wide range of educational related expenses.
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Here's the catch, though, and there's always catch. The state
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has to opt in. Governor Bob Ferguson has until January
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first in order to do this. And this is one
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of those things where what I'm encouraging people to do
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is reach out to the governor's office. I understand he
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rarely listens to us, but if he gets overwhelming and
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consistent contact saying hey, just opt in for this, it
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doesn't cost the State of Washington anything. Unfortunately, the WEA
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has got his ears and has said asked him not
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to do it. I think that they believe that all
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that money is going to go to private schools. I
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don't think that that's true. I think people would be
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happy to take some of their federal taxes and apply
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it to a scholarship organization that could be helping District
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eighty one CV need any of these schools. And I
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think that this is one of those things where this
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is an opportunity for actually for citizens to lower their
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own taxes ultimately, because if we've got money, that can't
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be that the taxpayer ultimately has got some voice in
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terms of how it's spent, then it's not just it
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can't just be eaten up in contract negotiations, for example,
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Then some of the need for levies can start to
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drop away, so your property taxes could fall based on
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you opting to take some of the tax money that
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you're already going to have to pay and dedicate it
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to the schools. All we need is for god Riff
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Ferguson to go yes, wash and wants to be a
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part of this to make our schools better.
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So Alan, you're telling me that in the future, I
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could see an election season without a levy or a
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school bond for the you know, for the schools here like.
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I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go that far. I
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will tell you that there the basic education funding. People
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would not like that in their schools. There's still gonna
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be need for it. For example, scholarship granted organizations are
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not going to cover football. People want football and that's
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not covered in basic education. So there's still going to
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be some of that. But what if we could drop
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it by a third and a half? You know, I
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think that that is something that's possible, and if nothing else,
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you've got the opportunity for you are making that decision
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as far you've got the voice on where that money spent.
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Because if that scholarship granted organization doesn't spend the money,
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grant the money in the way that you want to,
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you don't give it to them. Next year you find
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somebody else. Again, that kind of goes back to the
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free market, certainly, the people who are doing what you want.
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Yeah, no, I agree, And I mean on those you know,
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all these levees, and I don't just beat up on
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the school levees, but you know, fire police CMS, all
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that kind of stuff. You see them all the time.
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And if you examine your property taxes, it's literally a
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death by a thousand cuts. Like you keep voting these
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in and it's like, yeah, it's only a small fraction
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of the property value, and it's like yeah, it add
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them all up together, they start to hurt.
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A little bital money.
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Yeah it really is. Okay, now you brought up the
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STA and we might have to extend beyond the hard
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break here talking about this, but I just got to say,
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I love the fact that you're not afraid to go
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after this because this is one of those subjects that
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people can throw bombs at you, right, they can accuse
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you of not caring about people who can't afford their
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own cars. They got to rely on public transportation. But
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you're not afraid of that, and you see a problem
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one that costs us money and you're like, hey, could
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we do this better. I'm not saying I hate all
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public transportation. I'm putting words in your mouth here, but
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can we do it better?
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You know, anybody who kind of makes that argument is
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actually misrepresenting the claim. Because what this and what we're
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talking about is Brokane Transory SDA Prop one, and what
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they would like to do is renew a sales tax
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of two tens of a percent that was approved back
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in twenty sixteen and was advertised as being a temporary tax.
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They want to renew it for another twenty years. So
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in the ten years or so that they have had
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this tax available, what they've done with it is they've
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they've banked that money. They have added two hundred and
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thirty four million dollars in unallocated funds. Just think about
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it as being in your checking account or your savings account.
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That's essentially what they've done with this money. It's not
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gone towards projects. It clearly isn't needed. The other thing
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that's getting lost in this is there's already another six
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tensive percent sales tax. That is, it's permanent. It's not
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even something the voters are going to ask about. The
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only way you'd have a vote voice on it is
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if we were to have some sort of initiative. Go listen,
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we're not doing that any longer. But that bill is
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an effect and that provides another three billion dollars during
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this twenty year time period that SJ would like to
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have renewed on our STA Prop one. So to take
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this and say this is going to keep us from operating,
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that's not true. It hasn't been paying for operations. It's
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been going to a bank account. There's already significant funds
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through our taxes that are going to continue funding operations.
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Yea, I'm gonna pause you there. We're gonna come back.
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We're not done with this conversation whatsoever. Ladies and gentlemen.
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go back to our guest, Alan Nolan running for State Rep.
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District six, and we're talking about sta and what they're
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currently doing. You have a sticker on your on Facebook.
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I gotta show people because it made me laugh. Okay,
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this is a great sticker. You're using Superman, you know,
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I mean talking.
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About us Superman. He's that's a trademark.
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Oh yeah, that's true. Okay, well, well I think we
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all know who It kind of is an American icon,
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let's just put it that way. But it's a great,
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great sticker. Here, explain what this means to you.
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Well, this is just an example of you know, Superman.
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He I've seen on Superman movies and not that this
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is Superman. This is a this is clearly a different Superman.
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It's a it's a cheap knockoff, right, I don't I
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don't think it was made outside the US. I think
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he's still an American Maid here. I just want to
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we're gonna stay with American Maid. But ultimately, when he
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did that, he did that to save the people who
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are on that bus. And it would be pretty easy
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to lift up the se buses because there's just not
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that much weight to him with no passengers. And what's
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the rarest thing on earth is a full STA bus.
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So you've seen that's like, that's what I'm saying.
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It's the rarest thing on earth. And by the way,
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I actually wanted to go back to your sponsor. I
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was not aware. I'm gonna you're againting you've got one
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who's uh who you've You've you're gonna have go looking
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out check it out the site.
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All right, Well, I know a guy you can talk
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to about that. All right, Yeah, he's sitting right here. Yeah. No,
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the SDA, they truly do frustrate me.
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Uh.
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Not only are the buses almost always empty every single
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time I see them, but the STA Plaza. Go talk
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to any police officer in Spokane. They'll tell you that's
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kind of a hotbed for criminal activity. And now they
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want to take Division our main North South road and
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they want to actually take a lane and designate it
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for STA travel where you if you ride in it.
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And by the way, there's flock cameras all over the place,
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so if you're driving your car in there, guess who's
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getting a ticket. That's frustrating, Allen. That really makes me mad.
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We're already the North South Freeway, man, I wanted to
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be completed, but it's not, and we still got probably
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a number of years before we do. And now they
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want to take the North South, biggest road we use,
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and make it a two lane road instead of a three.
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Well, there's already there are. Maybe this is a conspiracy theory,
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but I get the feeling that they don't like people
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on the north side anyway, because you look at what's
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going on right now when they've got the Green Street bridge,
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They've got that knockout at the exact same time they'd
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closed the Maple Street Bridge. They don't want a big
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going north of the river, or maybe they don't want
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us coming south of the river. And this is a yeah,
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this is another example. They've done these road diets on
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Monroe where I've had people complain to me, oh, well,
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if you if we don't fund SDA and we don't
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allow them to operate. Think about all these extra cars
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are going to have on the road. One, it's not
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that's not the topic. This is not money that's funding SCA.
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And Two who are those people who you think are
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going to be driving cars? Because those buses are empty
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and when traffic comes to a stop, invariably it's because
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we're on one of those streets that has had a
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road diet, and the bus stops and everybody has to
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sit there and wait for them to have maybe one
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person get on and get off. It doesn't make sense.
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And you look at the size of these buses. You know,
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if you're somebody who is a fan of say the
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Climate Commitment Act or the or reductions in CO. Two,
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how does STA help with that? Because you're driving a
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much larger vehicle over the same distances and you're not
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carrying that many people. It's all mass types of velocity.
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That's the energy that it needs. So that energy has
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come from somewhere. And with some of these electric vehicles,
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you know, the claim is that it's clean, Well think
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of it more like a coal powered vehicle, because there's
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a coal plant somewhere that's contributing power to the grid.
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That's allowing that bus to have energy. You're just transferring
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where that pollution is occurring. And more importantly, you know
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the same thing with these electric vehicles. So those electric
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vehicle going are somewhere around forty to fifty percent more
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heavy than a traditional vehicle. You have to have that
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energy in order to move that vehicle. So the amount
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of energy that you're expending in order to move the
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bus the more heavier vehicle. At this point, there isn't
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that trade off. So this isn't an argument about, hey,
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is there a role for public transportation. It isn't an
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argument about our electric vehicles. You know, maybe something that
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we continue to work on. It's a question of why
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not we're there and if that's the right way to
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spend our money right now based on the actual technology
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and society that we have.
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I completely agree, and it's once again it's pointing to
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that free market. Look, some of you may not remember this,
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but there used to be private buses. There still are
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a few out there, but there used to be a
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big market for private buses. Well, as cars got more affordable,
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people had more disposable income, they moved away from that.
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Why because it's just nicer to ride in your own car.
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I don't think I have to really sell you on
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that one. And so they kind of went the way
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of the Dodo, these private buses. But the government and
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all of its wisdom said, now we got to make
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a public we got to make a public transportation. And
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it doesn't really work all that well. And you can
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see just example after example of this. Right before, when
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you'd go to a city, there were taxis everywhere, right,
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taxis all over the place, and then the free market
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introduces uber and lyft, and now you don't see as
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many taxies. It's just the way of the free market.
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Why get the government involved and just make a mess
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of the whole thing.
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And I think it really comes down to trying to
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push a policy rather than find and identify correctly and
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agreed upon problem and then what the goal is. And
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that's one of the things that I intend to do
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in Olympia is there's no accountability in part because for programs,
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in part because we aren't identifying what is that problem
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and what's that goal and then what are those metrics
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in terms of how are we going to measure for
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how we get there? Every piece of legislation that's passed
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should identify here's what the goal is, here's how we
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intend to measure it, and then at the five year point,
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I would advocate for there should be reauthorization. If you
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can't go back and based on what the problem statement
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to goal and the metrics to you're looking at, identify
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is this doing a good job of achieving that, then
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you probably either need to change it or get rid
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of that legislation. And the same thing is true with
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this STU conversation. It's the question is not whether there's
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a rule or a need for some sort of a
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public transit system, but let's do in a way that's efficient.
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As a conservative, I like to conserve that includes fuel,
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and I do want to have these sorts of things.
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I want people who don't have the ability to forord
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a car to be able to still move around our society.
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It's a true statement. It's difficult for people to walk,
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and you shouldn't. Also, a fifteen minute city maybe nice
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and convenient in terms of if all you're doing is
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going to the grocery store or the park. But if
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you are looking for a job and the better job
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for you is forty five minutes away and you're willing
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to spend the time, we should make it a possibility
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for you to do that. Maybe public transportation is part
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of that, maybe it's not. But ultimately we need to
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measure how effective are the dollars that we're spending towards
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the problems that we identified, the prioritized problems.
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Yeah, I would, I would agree. Once again, we tend
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to be agreeing quite a lot on this interview. Last
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question it's kind of a bigger well, I'll probably have
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a second one, There'll probably be two more questions. But
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right now, the current environment in Olympia, we've got the
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Democrats with a super majority. Right, it's very hard for
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conservatives Republicans to get things done in Olympia right now.
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How are you going to navigate that minefield, as it were.
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Let's actually point out something. They don't have a supermajority,
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but that is one of the concerns because if they do,
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then these unconstitutional incompaction. If if you look at state
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Supreme Court president, it's clear that there is president that
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says the millionaires so called millionaire's tax should not be legal.
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I don't have any faith that our Supreme Court is
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going to find that I also know that the Democrats
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who pushes recognized the state constitution clearly says you can't
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have If you're going to have something like any compax,
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it has to be across the board. It can't be
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selective as the legislation was written. But the concern is
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that if they win in the six if they win
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a seat in the fourth, they win two seats in
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the sixth, then they do achieve that super majority, and
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then they can change the constitution so that it says
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whatever they want. They can change so they get rid
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of these pesky initiatives where we're able to get some
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of these small wins. And that's what I want to
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point to for the SKA prop one. I think we
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need to be looking for these small wins. This is
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a good spot to take a stand where people have
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had enough of taxes and they're real ready to stand
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and they should be going to the polls anyway in
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order to pick their the representative wire are going to
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end up on the general election or the candidates. This
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is also an opportunity to say no, we're not going
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to pay that tax where you clearly do not need
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it for that operate that that stated needs. It's not related.
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You're just banking it. So we need to look for
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small wins where we push these initiatives across the finish line,
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make sure they end up on the ballot, and then
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vote for them. That we turn back STA prop one,
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and then at Olympia we make sure that they don't
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end up with the supermajority so they can just do
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truly whatever they want as far as making progress and
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moving the needle. So I'll go back to the millionaire's tax.
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That's a good example because on that vote there were
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a Democrats who peeled away from their party realize that no,
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this is not the right step for Washington. So looking
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to work with them, that's one thing. Create relationship with them.
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Go into these communities that are either purple to blue
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and start talking to the folks there who have those
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conservative ideas, helping to prop them up, helping the fine
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candidates where maybe we can start adding to our numbers.
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Additionally bringing forth amendments where we're focusing on identifying the
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goal as part of the legislation, identifying the metric and
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saying stating to the voters that hey, we will go
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back and we'll look at that, and that's going to
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be the termination the three Authorization Party. I spoke about
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before as to whether or not we continue to spend
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that money or have this policy once again.
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Great stuff here, and you know, I look, I've signed
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the initiative and I love the initiative process, and I
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don't want this millionaire's tax to be part of our law.
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And I think most of us are intelligent enough to
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realize they're not stopping at the millionaires. Okay, it's going
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to go down, right, It's going to trickle down to
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all of us. It's going to be assessed value. You're
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going to have your home in there. It's going to
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get real messy. But I look at the thirty dollars
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card tabs and I'm like, we all voted that way too.
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Washington said, yeah, no, we know better than you do.
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One more question for you that I'm a nerd. I
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think everybody's aware of that that watches this program. And
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I'm a constitutional nerd, and I'm a staunch anti federalist.
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Right I would have opposed the Federalists. And because of that,
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I love the Bill of Rights, and so I love
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to ask every politician out of the original ten here,
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you know the Bill of rights. Do you have a
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favorite one and what would that be.
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I'd have to go with the freedom of speech because
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I think that is that's fundamental to democracy. And I
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didn't actually realize that so that none of these nations
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in Europe actually have got free speech rights until we
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saw what was going what's been going on recently where
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the people are being uh, they're being convicted based on
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social media posts stuff. This is just preposterous that no
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one should have the right to not feel uncomfortable and
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words are words are not violence. That's pretty clear. There's
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we need to have that conversation. We need to continue
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to have that conversation, because conversations that are uncomfortable because
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when we don't, unfortunately you have things like the assassination
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of Charlie Kirk. If you aren't willing to go out
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and actually speak to the other person, then they just
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become another and there's somebody who you can do any
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any wide range of unspeakable acts against, or you could
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allow it to happen, either by someone else or by
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just turning your head away from it. We saw that
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in Germany, where the people may have known what was
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going on, they claimed that they didn't, but really, they
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were just turning a blind eye to something that they
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were willing to allow happen to the others.
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Yeah, yeah, I think that's a fantastic answer. Obviously, the
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First Amendment with five different rights, actually God given the
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rights in it. But freedom of speech is very important,
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and obviously as a talk show host, it's very important
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to me. All Right, let's promote the websites because I
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want people to get involved Nolan for the number four
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WAW dot com. Chris is going to bring that up
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for you. You can see it right there.
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Alan.
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I know you need help. I know you need donations.
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I know you need people to walk the streets with
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you as your doorbell. Take the opportunity to pitch people
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getting involved with you.
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Yeah. Really, it's that everybody needs to be active. Everybody's
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got a role, and we're at the point where I'd
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like to get the world out especially with this STA
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prop one. Get out there and vote. This is something
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I think that can be a driver for votes. So
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if you are, if you weren't aware of this before,
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guess what, your neighbor probably doesn't know about it either.
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Let them know. The PTBA, the area that's going to
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be affected by this sales tax, which we'd had a
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picture of it. But it's extensive. You know, it's Cheeney,
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it's all of Spokane, it's most of the north Side,
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it's most of Spokane Valley. Odds are if you live
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in the Spokane Valley area, you are going to be
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affected by this tax. And if you didn't know about it,
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well one, you need to act. Got to extend your
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use your constitutional rights and help me in terms of
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getting that message out. Whether it's you personally or I'd
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love to have you come on out and come to
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the doorsteps with me, meet voters, help explain what's at
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stake in these various elections so that everyone can make
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their community better and we can move wash it in
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the right direction.
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Yeah, and they can follow you on Facebook as well.
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And what's the Facebook page?
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So if you search for Nolan for wat the number
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four again, that's gonna you'll find that and it's Nolan
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Nolan for Washington.
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Okay, So you can follow on Facebook. You can go
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to the website Nolan for wal dot com. I want
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to thank you so much for taking the time to
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be on this show to get the message out there.
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It's been great having you on as a guest. It's
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been a very positive interview.
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Thanks Caleb. I really appreciate you giving me the opportunity
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to speak with you.
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Absolutely, and I will say this as well. If you're
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looking for endorsements, you have mine. Take that whatever you
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want to do with it. But I definitely know that
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I would be voting for you if I lived in
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the six. Unfortunately I don't, but I definitely endorse you.
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Thank you. I appreciate it, Caleb.
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Absolutely. All right, ladies and gentlemen, there you go. A
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great candidate for trying to restore some sanity to Washington State.
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I think this is the man that we need to
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send to Olympia. Church and State is brought to you
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