Cabbage Patch Kids & Nellie Bly

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Hey besties, welcome to Plot Twists and Punchlines, the podcast where we bring you laughs, comfort, and questionable takes.
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I'm Steph, and I'm Mel.
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Two best friends here to distract you from the world and talk about life books and everything in between.
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So grab your blanket, your drink, and your emotional support book boyfriend.
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And let's get into today's episode.
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Hey guys!
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What's up?
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We want to say Happy Mother's Day and Happy Mental Health Awareness Day.
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And a special shout out to the moms who are suffering from postpartum depression, anxiety, and psychosis.
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Cause you know, moms don't have it hard enough.
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It's not funny, but just the way that it was presented, man.
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I take nothing seriously.
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Sorry, guys.
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Genuinely.
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So happy Mother's Day.
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And I also suffered from really bad postpartum depression.
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So I get it, guys.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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I had um postpartum and antipartum.
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So I had oh, actually, you know, a lot of women get antipartum anxiety.
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I've never even heard of that.
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I feel like I told you about this where I used to like imagine people just coming up to me and punching me in the stomach.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I do remember you saying that.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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And then I told my doctor about it, and they're like, oh, that's normal.
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It's fine.
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I'm like, okay.
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Oh, I'm suffering here.
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You can't do anything for me.
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That's crazy.
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Yes.
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So I just wanted to give a special shout out to you guys because I understand how hard that is.
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And then a very, very special shout out to all of the minorities and people of color who are suffering from mental illness because you guys suffer the most.
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I say you guys as I like I'm not one of them.
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Right.
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Um, and especially black men, because you guys are the ones who are treated the worst and diagnosed the least.
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So we're not gonna tell you today, but we have some exciting things happening soon.
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Yes, and they will be announced um next week.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes.
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Um, let's just talk really quick about how last week we said we were gonna go pet a baby sloth.
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Um, we went to go see the baby sloth.
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We we went there.
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Um the advertisement was I don't know if I misread it, but it said to come see the baby sloth for$10.
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Right.
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So we assumed it was$10 because it was$10 to get in and then$80 to pet the baby sloth.
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And you had to schedule it, right?
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Yes, and you had to schedule it.
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And I I know I said it was like five months old, but some babies are like fully grown by that age.
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I didn't really know anything about sloths.
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That sloth was like a baby.
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Baby, like so small.
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Adults should not be touching it.
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Yeah, like I don't agree.
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Even if it wasn't$80, I would have felt weird picking it up because it was it was so small.
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It was so tiny.
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I would have believed that it was three weeks old.
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Yeah.
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Like it was tiny, tiny.
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It was very small.
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So I did not like that at all.
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But we did get to see the adult sloth, and there is a picture that's gonna be posted this morning.
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It was so cute.
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I also have uh, do you have any pictures of the baby sloth?
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Because I have some.
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No, if you want to.
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I don't have some.
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I have one, but you can't really tell it's a sloth.
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It just kind of looks cute.
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You can't.
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It was huddled, it was like curled up in a fetal position sleeping when we went to go see it.
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It was it was a baby, but it was it was so cute.
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It was a baby.
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So I don't have any good pictures of it because it just like it was like a ball of fur because of how it was sleeping.
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Right, right.
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Um, so I did not like that.
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I'm not saying that it was unethical because again, I have no idea anything about animals.
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I'm just a dumb bitch who says things.
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It's just I felt uncomfortable with the situation.
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Yeah.
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But my feelings really mean nothing in that situation because I don't know anything.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it was in like the proper, like, you know, cave it was stored properly for lack of a better word.
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Like, it was like in a separate cage next to his mom's cage.
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So it wasn't like in the same cage as its mom, but its cage was touching its mom's cage.
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I don't think the adult was the mom.
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You don't think so?
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No.
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Where would they have gotten the I think they literally just like adopted this baby sloth because nobody else would.
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Or it was just like an opportunity.
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Oh.
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I'm pretty sure.
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I don't know.
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I'm also just sometimes a dumb bitch who says.
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I feel like the owner was like, This is the mom.
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Maybe.
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And then she was like, Yeah, she doesn't like to be held.
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And then she started like talking about how I do remember that.
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Yeah.
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Also, we stumbled upon the sloth.
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We were not supposed to be in there.
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Dude, we literally broke into this woman's office accidentally.
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So awkward.
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The door was unlocked.
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We walked in.
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It's fine.
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They told us that that so we asked other Patreons um, like, where the sloth was, and they're like, Oh, it's in that office.
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Someone just takes you in there.
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We're like, oh, okay.
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Well, they said it was like in this building.
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Right.
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And then um somebody like had taken them in there is what they said.
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They were like, Yeah, it's in that building by the front.
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Somebody took us there and we got to see it.
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We were like, oh, okay.
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So we just like walked into the building.
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We were not supposed to.
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No, the owner was like, Oh, the door, it was awkward, real awkward at first.
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She wanted to kick us out, but she didn't.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh, it was very step and male coded.
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And there was no sign that says don't come in.
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There wasn't.
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There was not.
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It there was a lock on the door, but it was open.
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So we assumed we could go in.
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Because why would we think that the animals would be locked back there?
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Anyways.
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So that's the tale.
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So no, we did not get to pet the baby sloth, but we did get to see it and its mom.
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And they were both very, very cute.
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Yes.
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And we got to um uh brush horses because they let us brush the horses and almost fun other animals.
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It was a good time.
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I still had fun.
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Yeah, it was fun.
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And it was only$10 ago, and so it was really great.
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Um yeah.
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But we both have a lot to talk about today.
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Yes, let's get into it.
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So have you ever heard of the Cabbage Patch Kids?
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You're gonna hate me, but yes, I have.
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And I know them.
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Okay.
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And how do you know like a lot about them?
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Sorry.
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I have never heard of like the theories behind them.
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I obviously know cabbage patch dolls.
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I had one when I was growing up.
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Um so most of us born in the 80s and 90s remember the cabbage patch dolls.
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I had a few of them as well.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Some of them would like actually eat things.
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Some of them blinked.
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Mine had like a scented head.
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Mine did too.
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It smelled like strawberries.
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Okay.
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I don't remember what mine was supposed to smell like.
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I remember it smelling like baby powder.
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For some reason, I think it was supposed to smell like roses.
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Those do not smell the same.
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Well, that's what I remember.
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So Well, you were also probably a kid, so maybe you like put baby powder on it, like trying to change its diaper.
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Right.
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Or something like that.
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That could be it.
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Maybe.
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Something like that.
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Anyway, so we all know cabbage patch dolls, um, but they didn't just come from like some toy company or some toy maker who created Cabbage Patch.
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They came from a mystery that started all the way back in the 1800s.
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My what I'm talking about today is also from the 1800s.
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Creepy.
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Today we're just gonna be oldies.
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Yes.
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So first I'm gonna talk about the facts, like what actually happened and things that actually took place, and then I'll get into conspiracies about the things that actually happened.
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Okay.
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So it starts back in the 1800s with something called foundling hospitals.
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Um, these were hospitals where people could drop off their babies, kind of like the fire station right now.
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Yeah.
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You know, so people would drop off their babies uh if they didn't want them, and they would be raised in these hospitals and then eventually sent out into the world to find families.
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Um, so it's it was kind of like the first, like where the foster system kind of started.
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Yeah.
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Um, they used a device called the Foundling Wheel, which is basically like a drop box that allows the baby to be placed into the wheel from the outside and then it spins and they go inside.
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Yeah.
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Baby.
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Um, the parents remain anonymous and babies are just sent through the wheel from the outside in.
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Um, they were seen as like charitable, as good, you know, it's as a way to like as an alternative of um abandonment and infanticide.
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Uh sorry, one second.
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Just so you guys know, this is still a very real thing at police stations and fire departments.
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There is a place where you can put babies in this box where you can give up your baby safely and anonymously.
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They will not come find you.
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Yeah.
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And I think a lot of people don't know that.
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That's why we have so many babies still ending up in trash cans and dumpsters.
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Please, please, please share that information.
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You can take them to a fire station and they will ask no questions.
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They won't even see you.
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You just put them in the box.
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A bell rings when something's put in that box, so they will get them immediately and you just leave.
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Yeah.
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There's there's a screen, they cannot see you.
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Yeah.
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So please, please, please stop putting your babies in trash.
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Just don't do that.
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There are ways to safely get rid of your child.
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Yes.
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And no judgment if you want to.
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Being a parent is hard.
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No, that's up to you.
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Um, so yeah, these were like seen as very like a good thing.
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Yeah.
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Um, so now we're gonna jump ahead to eight 1853.
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Um, a Yale college graduate and philanthropist named Charles Loring Brace founded the Children's Aid Society.
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Um, this was founded from him along with other social reformists, um, in order to just help provide for children who during this time there were so many orphans.
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Um, and this all started on the East Coast, like New York, Boston.
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Um during that time period there were thousands upon thousands, thousands of orphans um just kind of roaming the streets, displaced from their families, trying to survive.
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Um, and they wanted to stop that.
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So they uh created this foundation.
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Um, some of these kids even formed gangs, like for protection, because it was scary to live on the streets.
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It wasn't safe.
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And they would, I mean, there's a lot of backlash from the public about, you know, oh, these kids are begging and looking for food, and how dare they want to survive?
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These poor kids with no money or asking for food, how dare they?
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So, yeah.
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So, um, children as young as five years old would be arrested for begging in the streets, for fighting.
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Um, and then when they were arrested, they would be placed in lockup facilities with adult criminals.
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They didn't have like a separate.
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So Charles was like, we need to stop this.
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Um, so in 1854, they started what we call today um the orphan train movement.
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Okay.
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Um, it wasn't originally called that.
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It wasn't really called anything.
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It was just known that orphans would get on these trains and be transported.
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Um I can see it in your eyes.
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Um so between 1854 and 1929, over 200,000 children were transported from areas like New York and Boston to rural areas in the Midwest.
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Um, it was believed that the opportunity for success was there for these children and it would be beneficial to the Americans trying to settle in the West.
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So basically, he was like, Hey, you guys need help, and we have a bunch of kids.
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What do you say?
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I know what you're thinking.
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We'll get into that.
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So during the same period of time, around 1850, there was a huge push in America for technological advancement, for further advances.
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Um a man named Stephen Tanyer saw chicken eggs in an incubator in Paris and thought, I wonder if this would work on humans.
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So he invented the first ever human incubator.
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Um, but as most firsts, his designs were flawed.
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They would get too hot, they weren't stable, they weren't sanitary.
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Um so then came along Alexandre Lyon, who made some improvements to the original design, and he ended up being the one to run the first baby incubator exhibit in Paris, France.
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So he would basically charge people to come into his hospital and just look at the babies in the incubator to show, like, look, this technology is awesome.
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We can save premature sick babies.
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Yeah.
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Um, this technology, it was huge and very well respected because now they had a way to save babies.
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A few years later, enter a man named Martin Coney.
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Um, he said that he studied medicine in Germany and uh he kind of just brought the incubator like hustle to America.
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So essentially what this guy did is saw that this man in Paris was making money for charging people to come look at children in incubators.
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So he was like, I want, I want it on that.
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Um so he started putting premature and sick babies on display.
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First display was believed to have been in Omaha at an exposition there.
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Um, it was very successful.
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And then in 1904, Martin opened Coney Island, where he ran exhibits until 1911.
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Um and these were like the most popular.
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They would happen at like world fairs and stuff like that.
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They were the most popular exhibit.
00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:31.200
At this time, um, if they found dead bodies and they didn't know who had died, they would put the dead bodies on display too.
00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:41.279
And that was just like common where people would go hang out at the morgue to go look at the dead body, and they would like just drink coffee while they're hanging out near all of the dead bodies.
00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:46.639
Like that was like their hangout spot, like at the morgues where these dead bodies would be on display.
00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:48.080
So this is just crazy.
00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:56.799
Yeah, and where these babies were displayed would be like close to like this was a time where human displays were a thing.
00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:03.840
So they had like a Native American human display and like crazy, just like insane.
00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:05.120
Humans are wild.
00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:06.240
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.320
I mean, we have to learn somehow, right?
00:16:08.480 --> 00:16:15.360
But curiosity also killed the cat, so that maybe isn't the best way to learn.
00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:27.200
Um, so yeah, thousands of people would line up to see these babies in incubators, and there was also a big push for adoption at that time because again, there were so many kids.
00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.519
They just didn't they needed families.
00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:32.240
Yeah.
00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:48.080
Um so uh Martin in America was considered like a pioneer for saving these babies that apparently hospitals couldn't couldn't treat.
00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:49.840
So he was praised.
00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:57.919
Um, and then around 1911 is when the incubator fad kind of slowed down, and then the orphan trains slowed down in the 1920s.
00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:05.599
So, all in all, during this time period, really the goal was pushing adoption, trying to help all of these displaced kids.
00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:12.160
It was also about saving babies that are premature and allowing them to grow up and live.
00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:19.359
So all of the men who were involved, not just Martin Coney, were highly praised for their work because everyone was like, this is so amazing.
00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.039
We're doing so many great things.
00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:21.599
Yeah.
00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:24.240
Conspiracy time.
00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:38.240
So first, um the tales about like how we tell small kids where babies come from.
00:17:38.559 --> 00:17:40.240
So like the stork dropped them off.
00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.960
Yeah, they just show up at your front door in a basket.
00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:46.960
Um have you gone to the episode of um Glee yet?
00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:48.960
Where Britney thinks that?
00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:49.599
No.
00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:50.160
Okay.
00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:54.319
No, I actually haven't watched that show since a long time.
00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:54.799
Ah.
00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:55.759
Yeah.
00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:06.000
Um, so we have a history of not really putting a whole lot of merit into how the babies got there, just that they're there and time to raise them.
00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:11.519
Um, so first we'll go back to the Foundling hospitals.
00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:15.119
Um, I mentioned the device that they used was the Foundling Wheel.
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Yeah.
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Um, meant to be anonymous.
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What I didn't say is that the babies themselves often showed up anonymous as well.
00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:32.640
So babies would be dropped off without names, without witnesses, and without efforts to trace their origin, which was weird in that time.
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Okay to people.
00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:43.599
Um in some regions, the number of infants taken in remained high, even though local birth rates were declining.
00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:44.240
Oh.
00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:45.200
Yeah.
00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:53.119
Um so the point here is where was the proof that the babies are coming from the outside?
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And this is where the conspiracy starts.
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So not only that, but the records that these foundling hospitals kept were not descriptive, very vague, and again, purposefully anonymous.
00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:04.559
Okay.
00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:12.640
So the conspiracy starts with these people are like like cloning, right?
00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:14.000
They're making these babies.
00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:16.720
It's yes.
00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:18.799
I feel like every week we have to say this.
00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:21.440
We don't believe in what we no, no, no, no, no.
00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:23.839
This is literally just the conspiracy.
00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:31.359
So, um, I just remember that one person who thought we actually believed in some of the things we talk about.
00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:36.880
I just want to put a reminder out there that just because we say it doesn't mean we believe you believe it.
00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.240
It's just what we found on the internet.
00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:40.880
Okay.
00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:41.839
It's yeah.
00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:51.680
So children who just appeared in folklore um actually had many different names.
00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.759
Sometimes they were known as changelings, which we talked about before.
00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:02.480
Um 1700s folklore, there was a little bit of a nicer term, cabbage patch kids.
00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:03.039
Yeah.
00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:08.880
Um, so this came from the saying that little boys came from cabbage patches and little girls came from rose bushes.
00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:13.839
But either way, there's this weird folklore that children were grown could be grown from the ground.
00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:19.839
Much like another, like, hey, the stork brings them, or they just show up on your front porch.
00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:20.240
Yeah.
00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:21.839
We grow them in our garden.
00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:23.200
That's a fun story.
00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.000
That wouldn't traumatize any young child.
00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:41.359
Anyway, um, there was even a silent film produced in 1896 um called La Faye a Show or The Fairy of the Cabbages.
00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.880
And I would recommend you watch it.
00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:51.839
It's very short, it's like maybe 30 seconds, and it basically depicts this newly wed couple on their farm.
00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:57.519
Although the videos that I saw of it really just showed the woman, the fairy.
00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:03.920
Um, but the lore of the film is that it's this newlywed couple.
00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:18.480
They live on a farm, and a f a fairy appears in their cabbage patch, and she just walks around to all these cabbage plants and grabs babies from behind them, and it's like they're like she's plucking them from the ground.
00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:19.279
I love that.
00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:24.000
It's weird, and it's silent and and black and white, so it's kind of creepy, right?
00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:27.200
It's not, it doesn't, it just gives weird vibes.
00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:34.319
Um, so I I would watch it just because it is it is kind of funny, but it's also like unsettling.
00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:43.279
It's especially because these are obviously real babies in the film, and she's just grabbing them by the oh yeah, they don't have CDI back then.
00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:43.839
No.
00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:50.799
Oh, she's grabbing them by the I wasn't imagining her like picking them up by the little patch of hair.
00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:51.839
Like, no.
00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:54.240
No, no, no, no.
00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:56.640
Like they're baby babies.
00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:58.640
Like what it's weird.
00:21:58.799 --> 00:21:59.519
It's weird.
00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.759
So uh now I want to jump back to the incubator babies.
00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:04.160
Okay.
00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:11.519
Um, when I was doing the research on this, I legitimately thought to myself, where the actual fuck are all these babies coming from?
00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.079
Like, why are there so many?
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.640
Because these exhibits happen for 40 years.
00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:18.559
Babies and incubators.
00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:21.279
Uh, I mean, I have a theory.
00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:22.960
I'm excited to hear it.
00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.440
I just don't understand where they're all coming from.
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:36.400
I think they're coming from unwet unwed women who are forced to give birth in private, which is why they're not on record at the hospital for giving birth.
00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:38.000
Yeah, that makes sense.
00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:38.960
Yeah.
00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.240
Um, or it's clones.
00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:44.240
One or the other.
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:45.839
There's no other option.
00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:48.559
It's one or the other.
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:57.839
Um, so it turns out that I'm not the only one who thought about that before because these conspiracies are, they exist.
00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:08.000
So um the theory is that these babies were made almost mechanically, like test tube babies, like how we can do we can make a baby without the parts.
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:09.440
We just need the DNA.
00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:09.839
Yeah.
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:10.559
Right.
00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:21.839
Um, so the story that Coney told that was that he was saving all these babies that hospitals couldn't treat or save, and he was a hero, pioneer of medicine.
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.839
But again, there was no paper trail, even from the hospitals.
00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.720
Like there was no paper trail that these babies were being born.
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.920
There's no birth certificates, anything showing showing where these infants came from.
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:37.759
They just kept showing up.
00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:47.119
Um, so I wonder if there was like like a serial rapist at that time who was maybe.
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.599
Because a woman wouldn't be believed about that.
00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:58.319
And even if they were assaulted and they were raped, their babies weren't going to be like they were gonna be bastards.
00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:03.279
And they were gonna be cast out, their moms would be cast out, the babies would be cast out.
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:05.920
So I wonder if there was just like a serial rape.
00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:07.519
And that wasn't like a thing.
00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.200
It was always a thing.
00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:09.519
Okay.
00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:10.720
Men were always men.
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:12.480
Women have always been raped.
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:14.960
But that wasn't like a term.
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:20.319
Like we didn't even use the term serial killers until I think the 70s or 60s.
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.680
Like, so serial rapist wasn't a term.
00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:29.920
But I wonder if like that's what happened, and that's why it increased so much because there wasn't protection back then.
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:30.240
Right.
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:31.440
Like there wasn't condom.
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.640
I and not that serial rapists use condoms.
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:34.799
Right.
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:36.160
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:37.200
Anyways, anyway.
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.880
Basically, what I'm saying is like they weren't on birth control, there was no protection against that.
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:48.720
So if somebody was like going around raping a bunch of people and they knew their lives were gonna be destroyed because of it, they wouldn't have gone to the hospital.
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:54.319
So it would have looked like the birth weight was going down because you can't get pregnant if you're already pregnant by a rapist.
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:54.720
Right.
00:24:54.880 --> 00:25:08.480
So they're not getting pregnant by like their actual partners and then they're having the babies in secret, and they're a lot of women are ashamed when they are raped, and you guys shouldn't be, which is why they're doing it so anonymously.
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.440
They're just giving the baby up because they just want to put it past them.
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:11.839
Yeah.
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:15.440
Also, I'm sure affairs still happened back then.
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.599
So like if they're pregnant by another man.
00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:27.200
I was just trying to think of a reason why it increased so much because I don't think there was just like a cheating train going on where everybody started cheating on everybody.
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:27.440
Yeah.
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:34.480
So I I was just trying to think of like a reason why it increased so much so fast.
00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:35.200
Right.
00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:39.359
And that was like the first thing that my brain went to, which is sad.
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:40.240
That is sad.
00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:55.920
Um, so the weird part about and the connection to cabbage patch kids dolls is that I don't know if you remember, but when they first came out, they would be sold with birth certificates.
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:56.480
Yeah.
00:25:56.640 --> 00:25:57.039
Yeah.
00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:03.839
So, and they weren't like um marketed as come buy this toy.
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.440
They were like, come adopt this cabbage patch kid.
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:10.799
And some of them even came with like fingerprints and footprints.
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:12.880
I did see a video on TikTok.
00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:17.759
Again, this is the internet, so anything can be fake, and it probably is.
00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:32.640
But there was a woman who found her old cabbage patch doll birth certificate, and it had the thumbprint and the footprint, and she like used AI to see if it was like real or not.
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:47.519
And they didn't obviously didn't come back with a person, but a uh AI told her that like just the way that it was uniquely marked and the smudges, like that was it, they were real, like fingerprints and footprints.
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.559
But AI is stupid again, yeah, exactly.
00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:52.079
So take that with a grain of salt.
00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.000
I don't believe that, but very wrong about most of the time.
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:57.440
A lot of things, yeah.
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:04.000
Second you say uh AI, I'm just like, even if she did really do that, yeah.
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:05.680
AI is stupid.
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.599
So that's and destroying our earth.
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:08.480
Stop using AI.
00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:08.880
Yes.
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:10.640
Data centers, no.
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:19.440
Um so basically the thought is that babies were being mass-produced to start the repopulation of people.
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:29.359
Um the little bit of merit to this is that this was also happening at a time where America was obsessed with eugenics.
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:34.720
So we were obsessed with was at a time where we're obsessed with still.
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:35.680
Yeah, no.
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:37.359
It's where it started.
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.680
I don't think there was ever a time where we weren't.
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.599
We still are.
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.599
That being said, um, so it was running rampant in America at this time.
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:56.480
Everyone was obsessed with who is allowed to repopulate and having a one true race.
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:20.880
Um there's also conspiracies about something called the reset, okay, which basically um is uh the thought that something happened on purpose to remove one piece of history and completely like just rebrand human population.
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.039
So make the babies.
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:26.480
This is a whole new generation of people who aren't gonna remember.
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.680
What do we do with the people who do remember?
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.880
We also started building insane asylums during this time.
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:44.079
So the conspiracy there is that these insane asylums, and they were built before like these cities were up and running.
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:44.480
Yeah.
00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:48.720
So there's like huge buildings, like just giant.
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:50.880
I mean, you've seen pictures of old insane asylums.
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:51.759
They're giant.
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:57.599
Insane asylums back then actually used to be like self-functioning.
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:06.559
So they would have like farms and stuff, and they would make the patients pick their food, milk their cows.
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:11.039
Some would even be like big enough to have their own um post office and stuff like that.
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:17.839
So they were giant and they were super self self-serving, yeah, self-sustained.
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:23.119
Nobody would ever go there and can't see what's happening there.
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:24.400
Exactly.
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:39.359
So, um, yeah, the people people are saying, well, what if these insane asylums were made specifically for the families of children who are removed from their families?
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.119
Because those are the people who would really truly remember that part of history.
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.200
And children would remember it too.
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:54.079
However, when they go to their new home on in the Midwest, they're taught an entirely different history.
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.079
Like this is what you believe now.
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.200
If you don't, we're sending you to the asylum.
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:00.880
And what do they do at the asylum?
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:07.359
Fry your brains or shove ice ice picks through your eyeball.
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:08.319
Through your eyeball.
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:08.720
Yeah.
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:09.920
Into your brain.
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:10.799
Yep.
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:12.079
Um.
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:23.039
Until MK Ultra started, and they start doing a whole bunch of Oh yeah, I forgot I told you I was gonna do that.
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.119
Because she doesn't know about MK Ultra.
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.440
So I don't know a whole lot about MK Ultra.
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:37.200
I I know that at one point there was a TV like broadcast interruption of what was supposed to be MK Ultra.
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.680
It was a guy like in a mask and the behind it.
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:40.720
You know what I'm talking about?
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:41.200
Yeah.
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:41.680
Yeah.
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:43.680
I don't like that.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:49.839
But I I will put that on my agenda because I think that would be great for um mental health awareness month.
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:51.200
Yeah, okay.
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:58.559
Um, so asylums were are another piece of like, hey, this could be real.
00:30:58.880 --> 00:30:59.279
Yeah.
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:06.799
Um because why if they didn't already have a plan for these buildings and an idea of how many people they would hold, would they make them so large?
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:09.039
It's weird.
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:09.680
It's weird.
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:11.200
I don't, I'm not saying I believe it.
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:12.079
It's just weird.
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.480
Um so now let's go talk about the orphans.
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:16.880
Okay.
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.319
Running rampant.
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.359
Um, tens of thousands.
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:23.759
Sorry.
00:31:24.960 --> 00:31:29.920
Um, tens of thousands of children were displaced in the early 1800s.
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:41.839
History suggests for all of these children is that in the urban areas on the East Coast, business was blooming and people were just essentially having more sex than they could care for.
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:43.680
Um right on.
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:44.240
Yeah.
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:57.279
This led which led to parents abandoning their children because they couldn't afford to have them, even though business was, you know, good, it wasn't good enough to have, you know, 10 kids, a household.
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:57.920
Yeah.
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:09.759
Um so there are actually some people who believe that some of these kids were just in the streets at the wrong time or were removed from their families altogether on purpose.
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:22.079
Um, one of the adults who rode on the orphan train when she was a child was quoted as saying, I just finished eating and this matron came by and tapped us along the head.
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:23.359
You're going to Texas.
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:24.720
You're going to Texas.
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.440
While some of the kids, you know, clapped and laughed.
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:29.440
When she came to me, I looked up.
00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:30.799
I said, I can't go.
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.000
I'm not an orphan.
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:33.440
My mother's still living.
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.000
She's in a hospital right here in New York.
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.680
You're going to Texas.
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.519
No use arguing.
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.160
So um there are a lot of stories.
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.799
Kid was just like, All right, I tried.
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:45.440
Yeah.
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:46.240
Right.
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:46.799
Right.
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:47.279
Oh.
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:55.680
Um, so there's also a lot of stories of people who experienced the train stating that a lot of the time the children were scared, didn't know what their future held.
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:08.559
Um, they were being separated from their families, eventually lost contact, and then older children, like double-digits early teens, were encouraged to break make a complete break from their past.
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:15.680
Um, and then once a child got to their new lives, there was not a formal way they were introduced into families.
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.680
They essentially just sent a letter out to everyone stating that the kids were here.
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:25.920
And then people would come and it was literally like an animal shelter where you go pick your dog.
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:29.920
These people would come out and just pick their kids that they wanted.
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.240
I feel like I watched a movie or a show where that happened.
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.000
Was it Ann with an E?
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:38.160
I don't know.
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:39.119
I think that's the name of the show.
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:40.319
It's called like Ann with an E.
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:41.440
And I think that's where I watched it.
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:42.160
I don't know, I might be wrong.
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:43.279
Sorry, interesting.
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:54.400
But I I specifically remember like that happening in a show that I watched where there were a bunch of kids, they got off the train and there was just like a bunch of adults waiting, and they were like seeing which one they wanted.
00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:54.880
Yeah.
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.279
And that's basically what happened.
00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:57.599
Yeah.
00:33:57.839 --> 00:33:58.960
It was weird.
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:03.680
Um, so as far as their lives after being adopted, it's very mixed.
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:12.079
Um, lots of families who took in these kids actually loved the kids and you know, supported them and gave them a great new life.
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:19.199
Um, while others state that they never really felt like they belonged and were seen as just cheap labor.
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:25.599
Um, and there were also signs that they suffered abuse in their new homes.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.159
Yeah.
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:35.440
So um the main conspiracy here is was the goal to actually help these children, or was the goal more so to help us grow communities further west?
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.440
And in order to do that, the people needed slaves.
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:51.519
Um was there something more sinister like the reset that these babies survived but were not meant to remember and were only meant to repopulate and create a new history?
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:53.280
I don't believe that.
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:53.760
Sorry.
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:54.960
I don't believe that either.
00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:08.960
One thing that I didn't write down because I didn't know if I would have time to mention, but the reason that the incubator bad stopped was because in 1911 there was a exhibit going on in Coney Island.
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:23.119
And the story is that a carnival worker spilled hot tar on this ride called like Hellfire or something like that.
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:30.239
Okay, and it caused a fire, it burned down the entire like Coney Island.
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:30.960
It was just gone.
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.920
The entire fair was gone, nothing survived except the babies.
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:37.760
Oh, that's weird.
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.159
I mean, I'm glad the baby survived, but that's weird.
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:40.960
Yes.
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.159
So that's the story of Cabot Tradch Kids.
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:46.800
That is crazy.
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:47.760
It's weird.
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.360
It's definitely weird.
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:50.559
That's crazy.
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.079
I think my theory is right, but I really, really hope it's wrong.
00:35:54.639 --> 00:36:01.760
Yeah, I don't like the thought of thousands of women being raped and then having thousands of babies.
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:02.639
Yeah.
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:21.519
So because a man can rape two, three women a day and impregnate two or three women, but somehow it's still the women who are at fault for how many babies we have and how many abortions we have.
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:23.760
All right.
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:24.400
Yeah.
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:25.599
What are you talking about?
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.039
Um I'm excited.
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:42.719
So this week, in honor of Mental Health Awareness Month, I wanted to bring awareness to a brave woman who had a huge role in changing how insane asylums operated back then.
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:43.039
Okay.
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:50.880
And I'm going to call them insane asylums because that is what they were called, not what they are called now.
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.360
Now I actually don't know what they're called.
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:58.320
I feel like they're called like mental health institutions or something like that.
00:36:58.559 --> 00:36:58.880
Yeah.
00:36:59.039 --> 00:36:59.360
You know.
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:09.760
Because I think even like the even like the really bad one is it's like the institation for um the criminally and criminally insane.
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:10.159
Yeah.
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:10.480
Yeah.
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:10.960
Yeah.
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:12.000
All right.
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:22.559
So today I'm going to be telling you guys the story of Elizabeth Cochrane Seaman, better known for her pen name, Nellie Bly.
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:24.159
Have you ever heard of her?
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:25.760
I've heard the name Nellie Bly.
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:26.320
Really?
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:27.280
Do you know anything about her?
00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:27.679
No.
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:28.159
Okay.
00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:30.239
Well, you're about to know everything about her.
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:30.719
Okay.
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.320
I think she actually came up when I was doing my research becauseylums were a big part of the conspiracy.
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:37.039
So Yeah.
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:43.519
It was funny because it related so much like the kids and the asylum and that it happened in the 1800s.
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:43.920
Yeah.
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:44.800
So that's funny.
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:46.079
We did not plan that at all.
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:46.400
No.
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:48.239
We didn't talk about who we were doing.
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.440
Who we were doing, yeah.
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:55.360
We have our notes in two different like tabs of our document so that we can't see each other's notes.
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:55.920
Yeah.
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:56.559
All right.
00:37:56.719 --> 00:37:59.840
So Elizabeth was born on May 5th, 1864.
00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:01.679
So happy late birthday.
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.079
She was the 13th child out of 15.
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:07.760
Catholic.
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:09.920
I don't, I I think just old.
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:11.519
Just 1800s.
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:13.199
People have a lot of kids back then.
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.480
Well, uh, that goes back to the lack of birth control thing.
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:16.880
Yeah.
00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:18.400
My grandma had eight kids.
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:19.280
That's crazy.
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:19.760
Yeah.
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:20.480
That's crazy.
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:21.199
Anyway.
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:27.199
Um, and then her by her father George, because the 15 kids were by two different wives.
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:27.599
Okay.
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.880
Um, and then her dad passed away when she was only six years old.
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:36.000
So she grew up wanting to go to school.
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:41.440
She did attend school in um Pittsburgh, but unf nope.
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:42.159
Yes.
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:49.840
Uh, but unfortunately, she had to drop out because of finances and not being able to afford to go to college because she was an orphan.
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:50.639
Oh.
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:51.840
Yes.
00:38:52.079 --> 00:39:00.079
So in 1885, there was an or article written in the Pittsburgh Dispatch called What Girls Are Good For?
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:01.840
Oh boy.
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:03.440
Already mad.
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:10.880
And basically they said that the only thing that we're good for is making babies, making dinner, and making clean floors.
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:11.599
Okay.
00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:12.880
Great.
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:19.599
When Elizabeth read that, she decided to write a response back under the pen name Lonely Orphan Girl.
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:30.159
And the editor of the column was so impressed by her that he offered her the opportunity to write a piece for the newspaper under that same pen name.
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:34.000
And the article that she wrote was called The Girl Puzzle.
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:44.800
And in that, she argued that not all women need to be married and would be married, and that what was really needed was better jobs for women.
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:45.840
Wow.
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:47.199
Good for her.
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:56.960
The second article she wrote, it was called Mad Marriages, where she talked about how divorce affected women.
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.400
In it, she argued for a reform for divorce laws.
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.960
And this article would be the first time she used the pen name Nellie Bly.
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:05.599
Okay.
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:06.239
Yes.
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:19.679
She used Nellie Bly instead of the lonely organ girl because back then it was normal for a woman journalist to conceal their gender so readers wouldn't discredit what was said.
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.280
Because, you know, yeah.
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:22.639
Silly old woman.
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:22.960
Yeah.
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.639
Well, I mean, also possibly can't that possibly can't be true what she's saying.
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:33.039
No, but also like around this, you know, in the future, there's like Salem witch trials.
00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.480
So you would be branded a witch if you spoke out against society.
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.960
So there's a lot of reasons why women would conceal their that's scary.
00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:44.000
I think it was the 1600s.
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:45.920
Was it really that long ago?
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:46.800
I think so.
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.280
Yeah.
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.119
I'm on a laptop.
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:50.320
One second.
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:52.480
We need to go to Salem.
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:54.800
Um, I've been, I love it.
00:40:54.960 --> 00:41:01.119
I have also been to Salem, but it is it's just it's one of those experiences where one year anniversary.
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.079
We'll go to Salem.
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:02.480
Okay.
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:03.840
So next October.
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:04.239
Okay.
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:05.039
That sounds good.
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.760
Oh well, I mean, no, it would be next February.
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.840
Okay, so not one year anniversary because that is literally right after your wedding.
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:12.639
Yeah.
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.559
Okay, so yeah, I'm not taking my honeymoon to Salem, Massachusetts.
00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:17.760
No offense to Lizzie Borden.
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.000
If you're there, we'll go to Salem.
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:20.239
Yeah.
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:21.679
Maybe like a month or two after.
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.599
I just I yeah, I love Salem.
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.679
It's one of those experiences where like you can do it multiple times and it's different every time.
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:28.559
It's so good.
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.079
I've been a couple of times.
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:31.599
Yeah, 1600s.
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:32.159
Okay.
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:32.559
Okay.
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:35.920
So it was prior to all this.
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:36.960
Very prior.
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:37.599
But still.
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:38.800
By like 200 years.
00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:39.360
Okay.
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:40.719
Moving on.
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:48.559
So, yep, she can she didn't conceal it for fear of being a witch.
00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:56.559
She can she concealed it for fear of being discredited because obviously a woman can't say anything smart or intru.
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:05.760
Um, and then after this article, her editor was so impressed by her that he actually offered her a full-time job at the paper.
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:06.320
Wow.
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:07.519
Which she accepted.
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:08.239
Nice.
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:18.800
So Elizabeth focused her work on the lives of working women and started a series of investigative articles on female factory workers.
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:34.880
And she actually went undercover as a poor woman to get hired at a copper cable company to get firsthand experience on how bad the working conditions were for women and children in a typical factory setting, because this was before child labor laws.
00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:36.960
So kids were put to work.
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:41.519
Um, and I think that also goes into play with where your kids were going.
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:42.639
Yes.
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:51.920
So the reason that the orphan train stopped is because in the 1920s, the government was like, hey, this seems a little unethical.
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:54.800
So yeah.
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:55.679
Yes.
00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:19.199
Um, so a lot of people applauded her for shining a light on what I would say was a very thinly veiled truth about what was happening there because women had been speaking out about what was happening for years, but you know, they're just women, so no one took them seriously.
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.760
We needed somebody named Nellie Bly to tell them.
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:24.639
Yeah.
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:45.760
However, the newspaper started getting a lot of complaints from factory owners about her writing, and she was then assigned to cover women's pages, which would be like fashion, society, gardening, basically what the usual woman journalist would write.
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:58.079
So she became dissatisfied with that and decided to do what no other woman did, and she left and went to Mexico to serve as a foreign correspondent.
00:43:58.400 --> 00:43:59.039
Wow.
00:43:59.280 --> 00:43:59.599
Yes.
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.880
And she spent six months reporting on the lives and customs of the Mexican people.
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.320
And again, this is like the 1800s, so that was not.
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:08.719
Yeah.
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:09.519
That's huge.
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:12.000
That's not like a thing, especially for a woman to do.
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:18.480
Her articles were later published into a book form called Six Months in Mexico.
00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:30.559
In run report, she protested the imprisonment of local journalists for criticizing the Mexican government, then criticizing a dictatorship under Porfirio Diaz.
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:38.719
And when Mexican authorities learned of Elizabeth's report, they threatened to arrest her, which prompted her to flee the country.
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:41.280
She's like, okay, I'm out.
00:44:41.519 --> 00:44:45.519
She was like, I am not fit for a Mexican prison.
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.920
I don't care for any prison.
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:59.599
So when she was safely home, she accused Diaz of being a tyrannical czar because he was suppressing the Mexican people and controlling the breaths.
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.599
So she was just a badass.
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:02.480
She was just amazing.
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:03.119
Yeah.
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:04.239
Go Nelly.
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:05.679
Go Nelly.
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:19.599
And when she came back, the editor was um, like when she came back from Mexico, her editor started giving her like the same types of articles that made her leave in the first place, like the gardening, the family stuff.
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.039
So she decided to quit and move to New York City.
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:25.599
She was like, I am done with this.
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:33.039
But in New York, no one would hire a woman, even though she had experience, even though she wrote all of these articles.
00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:34.239
She went to Mexico.
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:37.360
She was doing like investigative journalism because she was a woman.
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:38.239
No one really cared.
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:57.119
So after four months of working and now being completely penniless, she talked her way into the office of Joseph Pulzer's newspaper, The New York World, and she took an undercover assignment for which she agreed to pretend to be insane to investigate reports of brutality and neglect at the woman's lunatic asylum on Blackwell's Island.
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:58.719
Girl.
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:00.719
That's crazy.
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:02.239
Oh my gosh.
00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:03.920
Pretending to be insane.
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:09.039
Like, was she not afraid that she was gonna get like her brain jiggled around?
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:10.159
That's crazy.
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:16.000
Well, I mean, they didn't know what was happening to the patients in that that was the whole point.
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:16.880
That was the point.
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:17.519
Okay.
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:18.079
Okay.
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:19.280
Got it.
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.000
Still, that's crazy.
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.280
That is crazy.
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:24.239
That's brave.
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:31.280
She said in her book that she didn't really believe the um conspiracies.
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:36.000
Like she didn't believe the rumor in the gossip mill that they were being mistreated.
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:37.360
She was like, Well, these are sick people.
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:42.159
They're with pay, like they're with doctors, like they're being treated the way they're supposed to be treated.
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:44.719
So she didn't really have any fear going in.
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:45.840
Okay.
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:46.480
Yeah.
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:51.920
That's yeah, that makes sense why I would have fear because I know the history now, but yeah, that's crazy.
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.559
You knew they were sticking ice pegs in people's eyes.
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:55.039
Right.
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:55.360
Right.
00:46:55.519 --> 00:47:08.320
She just heard gossip out and she was like, Also, I don't believe that all the people in there were doctors because my guy, Martin Coney, said that he studied medicine in Germany, but there's no documentation that he actually practiced medicine.
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:09.360
He didn't have a degree, anything.
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:11.679
I mean, back then you could just say you were.
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:12.400
No fact.
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:13.440
And people would believe you.
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:13.920
Yeah.
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:15.599
Yeah, there was no question.
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.119
There was no goal.
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:18.719
All right.
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:24.400
So when she first took the job, she asked her boss, like, How are you guys gonna get me out?
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.239
Like, how long am I gonna be in there?
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.679
And they were like, We're gonna send you in for seven days.
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.320
We don't know how we're gonna get you out, but don't worry, we will.
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.159
And she was like, Okay.
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:36.880
I mean, at this point she was penniless.
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.440
Like, and this is the first time she was gonna get a job.
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:41.840
Like, she understand her reasoning.
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:42.719
Yes.
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.239
So she was like, All right.
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:51.119
And then it was pretty much up to her how she went about doing this.
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:51.519
Okay.
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:59.440
Um, her only rule was that she had to be honest about what she saw, like, not just write about the bad things.
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:02.079
Like her feelings didn't matter.
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:02.480
Yeah.
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:04.400
If you saw something good, write about it.
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:05.920
If you saw something bad, write about it.
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:07.519
Like it's the unbiased.
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:07.920
Yes.
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:11.840
And that was basically like her only instructions.
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:12.559
That's fun.
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:32.480
So she decided to get admitted into the facility by staying at the temporary house for females, which was a boarding house for working women, and then just being crazy there, and then having them like basically um call the cops on her and have her admitted.
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:33.119
Yeah.
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:44.320
So that was her goal because there was really only two ways to get sent to that island, which is doing that, or by being crazy in front of your friends and having your friends commit you.
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:48.719
And she was like a journalist, so she knew like that wasn't gonna happen.
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.119
And she didn't want to bring like her family into this.
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:51.519
Yeah.
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:52.159
That makes sense.
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.280
So she decided to stay at the boarding house.
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:57.760
And do you know how much she paid for a night at the boarding house?
00:48:58.239 --> 00:48:58.719
How much?
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:01.519
30 cents per night.
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:02.400
That's crazy.
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.320
That was probably really expensive back then.
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:05.440
I actually don't know.
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:06.719
I should have done the conversion.
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:07.199
I did not.
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.159
They charged him 25 cents to see the incubator babies.
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:10.880
Mm-hmm.
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:14.000
So more than incubators are worth.
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:14.239
Yeah.
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:16.400
Yeah.
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:26.880
Um, in her book, she said that she only brought 70 cents because she knew that if she ran out of money, they would lock her up quicker and she didn't know how much it was to stay there.
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.679
Because nothing gets you locked up faster than being poor.
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:32.559
Yeah.
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:39.119
While she was in the boarding house, she had to share a room with another girl, and because there were so many women there.
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:52.960
And she kept telling her roommate that everyone looked weird there and that there were too many working people and people shouldn't have to work, and that everyone there looked crazy and they were gonna murder people, and you never know what crazy people are gonna do.
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:58.480
I was hoping that you would tell us how she got admitted because there's so many.
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:03.119
I mean, people went women would go to insane asylums for like anything.
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:04.000
Yeah, you know.
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.639
She just kept saying that people shouldn't work.
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:11.840
So then um at night, she refused to sleep.
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.039
She just sat up in her bed all night staring.
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:27.519
And this obviously terrified her roommate, and her roommate like was I was like, I'm not sleeping with her.
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:28.800
Somebody else needs to sleep with her.
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.000
You guys need to kick her out or something.
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:31.599
Like, I'm not sleeping with her.
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:50.320
So then another woman who was like super nice to her, um, like volunteered to sleep with her and actually ended up putting like a blanket around her so she wouldn't get cold at night, and was like just treating, like talking to her like a mom who was talking to like a wounded child.
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:51.840
It was really nice.
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:52.800
That's so nice.
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.079
So then the next morning, um, Elizabeth was like, I gotta turn this up a notch.
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.800
So she started having a tantrum and she was like, I can't find my trunk.
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:03.760
Where's my trunk?
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:08.239
I need my trunk, and just like throwing a fit about her lost luggage.
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:16.480
Um, and when people were trying to like help her find it, she just kept saying that everybody looked crazy and she didn't know what they were gonna do to her.
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:18.559
So then they called the cops on her.
00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:19.119
Yeah.
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:19.679
Oh.
00:51:20.079 --> 00:51:22.960
So she she lasted one single day in the boarding house.
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:23.840
She did a good job.
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:24.880
She did do a good job.
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.320
And it was funny because um I read her book last night.
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:30.000
Um, it was very short.
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.199
I was gonna say you read a whole fucking book.
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:39.920
No, I don't sleep.
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:52.320
So shock I mean, not completely shocking because I know you, but like um, and in her book, she was like, I really didn't know how to act like a crazy person.
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:53.840
I've never seen a crazy person before.
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:56.159
I've never been around them, so I don't really know what to do.
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.360
So I'm just gonna um not sleep.
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.599
I'm just gonna keep my eyes wide because I hear that they don't blink as much.
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:12.400
And it was just funny that she got sent very fast when she was like worried that she wouldn't be able to convince anybody that she was crazy.
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:24.639
All right, so they called the cops, the cops took her to a judge, and in her book, she said that the judge was that the judge was really nice.
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:26.880
Sorry, y'all, I really didn't sleep.
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:38.320
Um, that the judge was really nice, and she said that she hoped that all women who were like actually truly sick were able to get a judge as nice and kind as he was, because that's what they deserved.
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:48.639
He's saying and the judge, which I know this was written in the 1800s, so like she didn't see it as a red flag, but I kind of did.
00:52:49.280 --> 00:52:57.519
The in her story, um, in the book, she said that the judge was like, you know, you seem like a very kind lady.
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.079
You definitely belong to someone.
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.000
Like, you're such a darling.
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.199
Everybody needs to treat her nicely because she looks like my daughter.
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:08.960
Oh.
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:14.239
That kind of takes away the yeah.
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:15.119
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:18.239
So she was like, Yeah, you have to treat her nicely because she reminds me of my daughter.
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:20.639
She looks like my daughter, so everybody treat her nicely.
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:21.199
Mm-hmm.
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:22.239
Yeah.
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:26.000
So, but anyways, he treated her very nice.
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:39.199
Elizabeth said that he was very kind, that he like had a kind face, and like she could tell from she said before she even talked to him, like she looked at his face and she was worried because he looked so kind and he gave up such like nice vibes that he wasn't gonna be able to do.
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:40.559
He wasn't gonna commit her, yeah.
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:51.920
Yeah, so I I said what I said, but he must have just been like a nice guy, either way, because before he even talked to her, she was worried about that.
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.159
You can definitely tell yes in the eyes.
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:55.360
Exactly.
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:03.679
Um so but he did declare her insane because in front of the judge she was still talking about her luggage.
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:11.440
He asked where she came from, and she was like, um, or he asked if she was a foreigner and she was like, Yeah, and he was like, Well, where are you from?
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:13.119
Like, what made you come to New York?
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:19.199
And she was like, I've never been to New York, and he was like, You're in New York right now, and he she was like, Nope, I've been here.
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.599
And just like, yeah, yeah, it was silly.
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.239
I wish I could meet this woman.
00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:32.239
This is like ad investigative journalism, like top tier.
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:33.119
Yeah.
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.000
So she was great.
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:37.280
She got committed.
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:50.639
They sent her to a hospital um for like examination for a few days, and then she said in the book that she was worried that she wasn't going to be able to fool like professionals.
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:55.840
Um, but she did, and then she was shipped off to a boat and sent to the island a few days later.
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:04.000
But here's the kicker The second Elizabeth got off that boat onto the island, she stopped acting insane.
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.760
She wanted to see how they would treat a normal woman.
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:09.679
Okay.
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:10.400
Yeah.
00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:18.079
So at the island, she never once pretended to be mentally ill, she was completely sane.
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:19.760
Wow.
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:26.960
Um, and she wrote that the more sane she acted, the crazier they thought she was.
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:29.920
Which is crazy.
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:38.239
And even though she was acting sane and lucid, she was still forced to undergo the same treatment and torture as the other patients.
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:46.000
So even though she would be like, I'm I'm not sick, and even though she wasn't acting sick, she was still uh being treated the same.
00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:46.480
Right.
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:54.800
Um, after a few days, she started to plead with them to release her because she was not sick and she was fine, but they refused to let her go.
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:01.519
During her stay, Elizabeth experienced the horrible conditions firsthand.
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:09.840
The nurses behaved, in her words, obnoxiously and abusively, telling the patients to shut up and beating them if they did not.
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:18.719
The food consisted of grilled broth, spoiled meat, bread that was little more than dried dough and dirty, undrinkable water.
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:28.239
Their dangerous patients were tied to each other and tied to the beds and forced to lay in bed for days at a time.
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.239
That's horrible.
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:44.639
The patients were not the dangerous patients, just like the normal patients, were all made to sit for hours at a time each day on hard benches with very little protection from the cold.
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:48.719
There was waste all around the places where they would eat.
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:52.960
So they would have to eat their gross food next to a bunch of trash.
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:53.440
Yeah.
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.639
And there were rats crawling all over the hospital.
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.679
And on her experiences, she wrote, What?
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:05.599
Expecting torture would produce insanity quicker than this treatment.
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.239
Here is a class of women sent to be cured.
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:18.719
I would like the expert physicians who were condemning me for my action, which has proven their ability to take a perfectly sane and healthy woman, shut her up, make her sit from 6 a.m.
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:19.840
until 8 p.m.
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:28.639
on straight back benches, do not allow her to talk or move during these hours, give her no reading and let her know nothing of the world or its doing.
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:33.360
Give her bad food and harsh treatment and see how long it takes to make her insane.
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.880
Two months would make her a mental and physical wreck.
00:57:37.039 --> 00:57:37.679
Yeah.
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:45.679
Another memorable experience, Elizabeth said or talked about, were the baths that the patients got.
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:57.679
The bathwater was frigid and the buckets were poured over their heads, after which the patients were roughly washed and scrubbed by the nurses, and then the bathwater wouldn't be changed.
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:04.239
So the next patient would have to bathe in the same filthy water, whether that patient was sick or not.
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.000
That's disgusting.
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:14.079
And even when the water was eventually changed, the staff did not scrub or clean out the bath.
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:17.599
So they just threw the next patient in the stained dirty tub.
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:29.519
The patients also shared bath towels, with healthy patients being forced to dry themselves with towels previously used by patients with like skin infections, boils, and open sores.
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:30.400
Gross.
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:40.320
Elizabeth recall recalled the bathing ritual with disgust, saying, My teeth chattered and my limbs were goose fleshed and blue with cold.
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.880
Suddenly I got one after the other.
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:49.280
Three buckets of water over my head, ice cold water, too, into my eyes, my nose, and my mouth.
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:50.239
Ugh.
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:56.400
After 10 days, her boss finally secured her release from the asylum.
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:58.079
It's about time.
00:58:58.320 --> 00:58:59.360
Oh my god.
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:01.199
Ten days of this.
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:09.519
Her report published in The World, the newspaper, and later released as a book, which is what I read last night.
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:11.119
And it was very well.
00:59:11.280 --> 00:59:12.079
Oh, yeah.
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:13.760
Um, I will give it to you.
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.559
I don't I don't have it in person, but like I'll show you where I got it.
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:22.079
Um, and caused a and there's also a movie with Christina Ritchie playing her.
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:23.679
Oh, I don't know if I want to watch that.
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:25.039
I do, but I haven't watched it.
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:25.519
I need to.
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:26.880
I'm going to watch it tonight.
00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:27.440
Sorry.
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.360
Didn't mean to interrupt myself.
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:42.400
Um sorry, so her report, published in the world and later released as a book, caused a sensation and brought her lasting fame of the release or of her release from the island.
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:46.320
Elizabeth wrote, I left the insane ward with pleasure and regret.
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.079
Pleasure that I was once more able to enjoy the free breath of heaven.
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:59.679
Regret that I could not have brought with me some of the unfortunate women who lived and suffered with me, and who I am convinced are just as same as I was and now.
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:00.880
Yeah.
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:08.000
Elizabeth's report prompted a grand jury to launch its own investigation with Elizabeth assisting them.
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:18.320
And the jury's report resulted in an$850,000 increase in the buck in the budget of the Department of Public Charities and Corrections.
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:33.199
The grand jury also ensured that the future examinations were more thorough that and such that only the seriously ill were committed to the asylum because they got a lot of shit that a sane person was sent there.
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:34.719
Wow.
01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:50.239
But and her report also led to a lot of other investigations of their local insane asylums, and it brought a lot of corrections and like fixings of insane asylums.
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:57.760
I mean, of course, they still treated the mentally ill horrible, but she did lead the way of stopping that.
01:00:59.039 --> 01:00:59.920
That's awesome.
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:07.920
And later, she actually decided to do um, you know, the book Around the World in 85 Days?
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:11.280
She did that and wrote a report about it.
01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:11.920
Nice.
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.079
So she's just an amazing woman.
01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:14.400
Yeah.
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:18.000
She did die in the 1920s, um, because obviously she was born in the 1800s.
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:18.719
Right.
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:24.639
That was like sad, but also a happy.
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:25.039
Yeah.
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:27.039
Happy little little story.
01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:27.840
Huh.
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.679
And that is my segment for today.
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:36.639
Why uh did they used to put insane asylums on islands?
01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:40.480
Is it just so they can't escape and re get back into society?
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.079
I mean, not all of them were on islands, this one just happened to be.
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:48.719
Yeah, I was thinking of like Alcatraz and then Well, that's a prison audit.
01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:50.400
Yeah.
01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:56.159
And that was a prison for like that was like a maximum security prison.
01:01:56.400 --> 01:02:03.280
So that was so that like that one was specifically made so that if you tried to escape you would be eaten by sharks and you couldn't.
01:02:03.920 --> 01:02:05.039
Yeah, I guess that's true.
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:05.519
Yeah.
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:06.079
Okay.
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.360
I I don't know why they opened this one on an island.
01:02:10.239 --> 01:02:11.440
Just maybe space.
01:02:11.679 --> 01:02:11.920
Yeah.
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:12.880
I have no idea.
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:20.159
It is New York, and New York is like on the edge where they do have a lot of islands, so that didn't really like That's true.
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:20.559
Yeah.
01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:20.880
Yeah.
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.840
I didn't really think anything of it when I saw that it was an island.
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:24.559
Yeah.
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:30.320
I uh have you ever seen Shutter Island with Leonardo DiCaprio?
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:32.800
Um, I think so.
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.599
That's where he was like crazy at the end.
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:47.840
Yeah, so the whole movie you're sitting here thinking thinking that he's like an FBI investigator and they're going to investigate the literally what Elizabeth did.
01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:53.119
Yeah, and his partner was there with him, and then the partner to be like a doctor or something.
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:53.440
Yeah.
01:02:53.599 --> 01:03:03.039
The partner's his like psychologist, and he goes through periods of lucidity where he remembers what he actually did, and he and it it ends up like he killed his family.
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:04.880
Yeah, I I I did watch that.
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:05.920
Oh no, no, no.
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:08.960
His wife killed his kids.
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:12.000
I don't I I watched it so long ago and I only watched it once.
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:13.119
Yeah.
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:13.360
Yeah.
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:14.719
Something like that.
01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:15.840
Wow.
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:19.119
Alright, and that is all for our segments today.
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:20.719
Do you have a beef of the week?
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:21.440
Yes.
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:22.000
Okay.
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:39.039
So my beef of the week is that people can complain about the cold and the snow and the ice and the ick, but I can't complain about the heat and the sun and the ick.
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.480
I mean, just be like me and complain about everything.
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:45.360
Stopping you.
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:46.639
Such a good idea.
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:47.679
Such a good idea.
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:51.599
It just bothers me because I'm so sorry that my favorite season is winter.
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:57.440
I'm happy for you that you like summer, but you complain all throughout my favorite season.
01:03:57.519 --> 01:03:58.960
So I'm gonna do it to you.
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.280
I do complain throughout your favorite season.
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:01.760
Yeah.
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:03.280
I I hate the cold.
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.079
Um, I also hate summer because it gets too hot.
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:07.199
I like the fall.
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:07.519
Yeah.
01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:08.559
That is my favorite season.
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:09.440
Yeah.
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.400
Fall is well, winter's my favorite, but fall is a close second.
01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.920
Those fall nights.
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:16.880
Yeah, it's just it's beautiful outside.
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:18.719
It's not super cold.
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.840
Everything is cinnamon and apple scented.
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:22.239
Yes.
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:23.599
Halloween.
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:24.320
Yes.
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:24.800
Yeah.
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:26.320
Fall is fall is great.
01:04:26.559 --> 01:04:28.639
And it you don't have to like winter.
01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:29.599
That's not what I'm saying.
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:30.960
You don't have to like it.
01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:35.039
Just don't give me a bunch of shit about liking it.
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Liking it.
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Yeah.
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And then not, you know, complaining about summer.
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Like, just let me have this.
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And I'll let you have your summer.
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But you know what I mean?
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Yeah, I just hate them all.
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Yeah.
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I want to live, I I'm sure there's not this place.
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I just want to live in a place where it's just like where I can be comfy wearing sweaters and pants every single day, all day, no matter what the season I you know how like summer um California is always like kind of nice, like warmer, kind of like beginning of summer feels.
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I want a state that's like that, but with fall vibes.
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Because I don't want to wear t-shirts every day, all day.
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I want to wear sweaters because they're just like nice.
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They're comfy.
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I like hurricans where you can just like grab yourself.
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I want to live somewhere where it's just like 73 every single day.
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73 is too hot, but okay.
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Okay, true.
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Most people think 73 is hot.
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I think that's the perfect weather, and I will wear a sweater outside if it's 73.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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That's crazy.
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I want to take my sweater off right now, indoors.
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This um, this weekend coming up is my sister's graduation party.
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And my mom was like, What are you gonna wear?
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And I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna wear like a sweater with a skirt and tights.
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And she was like, It's mid May.
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Like, what are you talking about?
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And I was like, it's gonna be 67.
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That's freezing.
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That's like perfect weather.
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Are you kidding?
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Uh that's what my that's exactly what my mom said.
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She was like, that's the perfect weather.
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And I'm like, that's cold.
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That's cold for me.
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I'm gonna wear my sweater and I'm gonna wear my boots and I'm gonna wear my tights.
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But I'll wear a skirt.
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You do you.
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But yeah, that's my beef of the week.
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All right.
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My beef of the week is parents who don't discipline their kids, and then when they act up in public, they like blame you for it.
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For having a problem with how their kid is behaving.
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:39.920
Yes.
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So I was at a baby shower a few weeks ago.
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Um, and this kid came up and hit my daughter, and she told me, and I was like, well, if she hits you, tell her no the first time.
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If she hits you again, hit her back hard.
01:06:59.920 --> 01:07:03.840
And my thing is don't start it, but make sure you finish it.
01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:08.079
If she's gonna push you, push her down hard enough that she can't get back up and push you again.
01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:13.920
So if somebody punches you, punch them hard enough that they're gonna be too scared to punch you again.
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:19.440
Like, don't let them give, get a second chance to put their hands on you.
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:26.400
I didn't know who this kid was, and I didn't realize that her mom was sitting right next to me when I was telling my daughter to hit her.
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So she like gave me a look and I looked at her and I was like, what?
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:33.840
She was like, you just said to hit my kid.
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:35.760
And I was like, because your kid hit her.
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:36.960
And she was like, Well, she's just a kid.
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I was like, so is my daughter.
01:07:38.400 --> 01:07:38.880
Right.
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Your kid is older than my daughter.
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:44.320
If you're if your kid is okay with hitting, we're okay with hitting.
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Okay with hitting.
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Yeah, let's all do it.
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You don't want your kid to be hit.
01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:51.119
Teach her not to hit.
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So, and then she like started going around telling people that I was a bad mom.
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Okay.
01:07:57.679 --> 01:07:58.960
Discipline your fucking kid.
01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:00.320
Teach them not to hit.
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:00.880
Right.
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Because if you hit my kid, she's gonna kick your ass.
01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:06.079
Because I taught her to do that.
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And I stand by that.
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Absolutely.
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:09.840
Yes.
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Oh my gosh.
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:13.199
Kids are so crazy.
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Their own kids can do no wrong.
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Yeah.
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And I'm not like that.
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Like you see.
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If my daughter does something bad, I I will straight up tell her that she did it bad.
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And then we talk about ways to correct it.
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And not just like you suck.
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:28.079
Right.
01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:28.880
Right.
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:29.439
Right.
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.279
I have another beef of the week.
01:08:31.359 --> 01:08:34.479
And it's just movies and TV shows.
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Every single kid's movie and every single TV show involves bullying.
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:41.359
Mm-hmm.
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And like, it's not even like uh the moral of the story is to not be a bully at the end.
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:48.399
No.
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:50.479
They're just bullying for fun.
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:51.119
Yeah.
01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:52.319
Like, why?
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:56.960
Why is it so just normalized to be dicks?
01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:57.760
Yeah.
01:08:58.560 --> 01:09:00.479
I don't I I agree.
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:08.479
There's like because it and it's even like little stuff, simple as like, oh, this girl's hair looks weird.
01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:09.039
Yeah.
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You know, and then talking to everybody about how her hair looks weird.
01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:21.520
Something like even something as simple as everyone's talking, and then like one person just like makes a rude comment and everybody just like brushes it off.
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Or like where they're talking, somebody gets excited and starts talking, they're like, oh, you're being so annoying right now.
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Stop talking.
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And then it just like moves on.
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Like there's no like corrective action about that.
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Like, why are you teaching yourself like why are we teaching kids that that's how we should be?
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:37.760
Mm-mm.
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:39.199
Yeah.
01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:41.039
So I guess that's my second beef of the week.
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:42.079
I hate that.
01:09:42.640 --> 01:09:51.920
That's like a big because now my daughter just like you, you know, she just randomly says mean things and she doesn't think they're mean because she just hears them all the time.
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:54.399
And I have to be like, hey, that's mean.
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:55.600
You can't say that.
01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:56.000
Yeah.
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:57.760
And she'll be like, oh, okay, sorry.
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.760
And like when she thinks about it, she realizes that what she said is mean.
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:02.319
Right.
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:06.560
But it's just so natural to her because everything has that.
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:10.079
So I started like really limiting what she's allowed to watch.
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:12.880
But every single thing has bullying in it.
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It's fucking ridiculous.
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:16.079
I hate it so much.
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Like that's annoying.
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.000
That is very annoying.
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:22.880
And not even like bullying in a friendly way, the way that we do it.
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:24.479
Just like straight up bullying.
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:25.279
Yeah.
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:34.880
Well, and kids aren't like a seven-year-old is not developed mentally enough to understand like sarcasm and how we bully each other.
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:35.039
Yeah.
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:37.840
There's no they just don't understand.
01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:38.239
Yeah.
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:44.319
There shouldn't be bullying at all in anything for kids unless it is to show that bullying is not nice.
01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:44.800
Yes.
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:49.199
Like if that is the purpose of that, then yeah.
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:49.520
Yeah.
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:54.479
But there's like so many shows where there's just like, oh yeah, that's the school bully, and then they end up helping him at the end.
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:54.960
Right.
01:10:55.039 --> 01:10:56.800
Like, what do you Yeah.
01:10:56.960 --> 01:10:57.279
Yeah.
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:06.720
Man, when I have kids, if I ever hear that my kid is bullying someone, that's the end.
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:07.279
Mm-mm.
01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:10.720
You better say goodbye to all your pri privileges.
01:11:11.039 --> 01:11:13.439
It's gonna be lockdown city.
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:14.000
Yeah.
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:15.279
I will not take that.
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:18.720
Where I I did just say that, like she says mean things.
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:20.000
She doesn't mean it purposely.
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:24.319
My my daughter is so sweet, so empathetic.
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She would never bully someone.
01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:26.800
No.
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:27.680
No, no, no.
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Unless it's me.
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:30.079
Yeah.
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:35.840
I wanted to cry when she came out this morning and she said, Miss Stephanie.
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And she came over and like hugged me.
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:39.439
I was like, oh my god.
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:42.640
She literally is just like the sweetest kid.
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:44.720
Um unless it's me.
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Then she's mean.
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:46.399
All right.
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