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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow.
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And I'm Catherine hileco.
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Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
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from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit
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or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.
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Okay, so we have a few different categories of library finds.
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I believe I've identified scatological children's nonfiction.
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As one shelf in our library. And another one is
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the board book that's sort of passive, aggressively educational for
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you know, board books.
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They are for babies, they are for little little children.
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And this one is called let's put that away, my
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first book of organizing.
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Oh my goodness.
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And yeah, and it's here's here's some of the copy
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from the publisher. Embark on a rainbow filled adventure of
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tidying up with your little ones. In this charming board book,
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the authors invite kids to unlock the joy of a
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tidy space and learn lifelong organizational skill.
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Stop it, every other baby.
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Every item from towels to toys has a home, and
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it's time to put it all back. Oh yet, these
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people are professional organizers.
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You are not surprised to hear. I think they even
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have it.
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I think they might even have a TV show.
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But Baby's First Book of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder come on now.
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And they also they have they have two other books.
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One is called Messy or Neat, a Lift the Flat book,
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and the other one is called The Rainbow Cleanup, which
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looks maybe to be not quite a board like for
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maybe more of a picture book than a than a
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board book.
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But the Lift the.
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Flat, Messy or Neat is uh is also a board book.
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Oh yeah. The other one's a picture book.
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Do this to your children.
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Like and again, this is the kind of thing like
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we've seen with you know, my first Coffee or whatever
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that one was, yeah, or my first book of quantum physics.
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It's like, if you're.
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Giving this to a child, what kind of message are
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you giving to that child's parent.
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Yes, yes, that's true. If your mother in law is
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giving your kids Messy or Neat, that book is not
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for the child.
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That is very true.
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That is that is the selling point of these These
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are not people are not going to be buying.
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These for kids.
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They're going to be it's passive aggressively speaking to mom. Yeah,
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let's put that away.
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Look, you're going to.
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Hear grandma reading that to the kid, which don't do that,
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don't do that. That is that is hilarious.
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So that is absolutely the market. I mean, you know,
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my kids went to Montessori school. Like I get that
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teaching kids to clean up is is great.
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You know, it's it's important.
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It's you know, it's developmentally appropriate when they're like preschoolers.
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I don't think it's for six months old, you know, like.
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I just if it's for if it's age appropriate for
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board book kids, it's gonna the first page is going
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to be do not chew this book. It is unhygienic,
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and it will make it difficult to put away because
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it will stick to the books. Next year it will
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be covered with Drew and the baby. We'll just chew
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that page first, but we I mean, I want a
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book for a kid about making messes. I don't want
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books about putting stuff away. I always loved one of
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our favorite books when my kids are growing up were
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the Henry and Mudge books. And there was a lot
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of jumping into puddles, right. I always that was my
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favorite part. And at one point Dad jumped in the
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puddle too, and that was very fun. Yeah, and uh,
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that's what you want to be reading to kids exactly.
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I don't know, but I'm an old mom. The new
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moms have different ways of doing things, and I can
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only sit back and judge. I would not be the
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grandma giving the let's put that away book. I would
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be the grandma giving the let's make a mess.
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Make a mess exactly.
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And that would also not be welcomed. We're trying to
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teach them to put things away?
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What are you doing? Oh, dear?
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So you take the legos and you spraw them across
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the floor. It'll take mommy a week to find them all.
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Yeah, oh goodness. It's also the the category another category
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I don't like, which is, you know, celebrity tie in.
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I mean not that these people are like super famous,
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but they are known for having like an empire, and
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so naturally that must extend to children's books, like.
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It really must, it really must not. But like you did,
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Marie Kondo, ever do a children's book?
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Does that piece of lego give you joy?
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Let's find out?
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Yeah she did, of course she did, because the children.
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The endearing the endearing story of two best friends who
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couldn't be more different. One is a collector and one
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is a sorter.
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Oh what are we doing to children?
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Dad?
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Oh my goodness.
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You just can't really get a children's book published unless
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you I get I have something like this going right,
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which is just annoying.
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We have to think about what what children's book we
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would write as podcasters. Make your own podcast children.
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Ye about it?
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Set a cardboard box with a lay school mic on
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top of it, and then just talk.
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Yeah, it's great. Tell everyone around you to be quiet.
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Yeah, except for your dogs. They can bar.
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Yeah, let's not chink, let's not jinx anything. Maybe we
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should move on to what you have.
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Yeah, speaking of things that you always think you should
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do and then never quite do, like cleaning. I recently
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went all in on I don't know if it's I
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guess it's an app. It's a website that has this thing.
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But it's called writer the Internet typewriter, and it's this page.
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It's all black. It looks like the old, old old
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computers with a little tiny screen with the green lettering
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okay you black, just like they have it was a time, huh,
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like they have all lost exactly exactly. It looks like that,
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and when you type on it, it makes a typewriter
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sound to the end of the line. It's just very
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old timy. It's lovely and it's just it's just a
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black screen with the square in the middle, with the
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green type, and it's supposed to encourage you to write
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without all the the you know, clutter of other writing services.
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I mean, I'm constantly cursing at Microsoft Word for wanting
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to do too many things. And even you know, any
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online thing you're typing into has bells and whistles. This
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is super simple, and it also brings me back, brings
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me back to my old days on a typewriter and
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my slightly less old days on a k Pro green type.
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So I does it it take.
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Over your whole screen so you can't see any other
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tabs or any other U.
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that you can't.
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do that.
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But still it is a pretty you know, there's there's
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some controls for it, but they're tiny, tiny, tiny at
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the bottom. But you can do things like if you
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spring for the non free version, which I did because
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right after I signed up for it, they said Hey,
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there's a you know, a forever version that we're taking
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thirty dollars off if you want to get it right now,
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which I did so. But you can set a goal
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for how many words you want to write it a
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particular session, and then it will dig satisfyingly when you
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get there. You can set up folders, and you can
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set up various different ways of handling things. You can
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change the type. But this is all these controls and
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stuff are tiny little icons at the bottom of the
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screen that you can completely ignore if you don't want them.
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If you do want them, it's kind to hid hard
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to see them, honestly for an old lady with bad eyes.
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But you know, I am constantly saying I got dom
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my writing. I think I need to write more. What
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could I do to write more? So this is what
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I'm trying to do to write more right at the moment.
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Is using this cool little thing and also spending money
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on it, so that then I feel guilty that I
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need to use it.
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for work or yeah.
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I'm a fear. I started out writing something for my
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sub stack and then I stopped, and then I'm noodling
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around with a novel idea I've had for a long time,
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and it's I think I'm just going to use it
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for whatever I feel like doing that day. It is
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very satisfying to hear the typewriter sounds. Yes, just brings
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me right back to my days with my smith Corona College.
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So I missed typewriters. There's a children's book. This might
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be a future like Catherine's Library Find of the Week.
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There's a book called Olivetti. You're heard of this, No,
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it's I think it's for It's not a children I
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think it's like a young reader. It's a chapter book.
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I happened to see it in Barnes and Noble the
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other day and it had had a typewriter on the cover,
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and so I picked it up, and this sales girl
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came over and said, oh, that's so good. I read that.
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I really like it. It's a young adult book, but
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you know, I'm sure you would really like it. So
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that was very It has to do eight Children being
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the name of a brand of type.
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Typewriters back in the day, so it has to do with.
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I don't know anything other than that, it's I think
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it's I think it's a typewriter that gets pushed aside
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and put up in the attic and you know, goes
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to seed and narrates its obsolescence, but then gets discovered
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by somebody. I think that maybe what it is. But
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it has a very attractive looking typewriter on the front,
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nice such that I had to pick it up and
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look at it and said, I remember you, yes, typewriters, typewriters.
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I remember going into a museum that had typewriters in it,
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and the kids that were with me looking at it, like,
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what is this fossil? Right? They use this like thousands
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of years ago.
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I think while I was a lie, I think I
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said here before, we have an old, old typewriter in
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our living room that long to my husband's grandfather, I think.
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And it is a kid magnet for sure. I mean
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they love to come and peck on that, peck on
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the keys at anytime.
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Yeah, cool had went around it is cool.
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If we ever had to go back to use those,
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and I would remember what a pain the ribbon was, right,
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and how impossible it was to correct something in a
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way that was acceptable looking right the same time, they
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were so tactle and yes, pleasing in a mechanical way.
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So it would be cool to have once you just
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to peck on every now and then. Yeah, it's as opposed.
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To can touch with Tom Hanks. I think he's.
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like a blurb from Tom Hanks on the cover of
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the Oh there, or it was in the Tom Hanks
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book Club or something. There was some Tom Hanks reference
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on the book cover.
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Nice.
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So well, speaking of old things from the way back,
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what do you have from the archives this week?
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Well, it's coming up on Mother's Day, so we thought
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we would return to twenty seventeen when we talked about
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our favorite quotes on motherhood.
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Yes, we did. Do you guys, do do you still
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do anything for Mother's Day? Is that like an event
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in your house? Do you get presents and cards and dinner?
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I yeah, I get cards and usually some small presence.
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But you know, now my kids are not here, so
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you know, there's definitely no more like kid made breakfast
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in bed and all that stuff, Thank goodness. But yeah,
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and you know, I still have a living mother, so
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there's there's coordination with my siblings who see her all
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the time, and live, you know, in the same town
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as her, and you know, she doesn't want like gift
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gifts usually.
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She kind of she kind of likes getting gifts, I think,
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bad about throwing them away. It cost five dollars, but
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at the same time they're just clutter and it annoys everybody.
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I get to stand up in chart right, Yes, that's
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all I need to do, all right, I am have
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the Mother's Day thing. Mothers stand up for a blessing. Yes,
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so long I waited for that and finally could get it.
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I was so happy.
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makes my mother's day. The rest is just gravy, right,
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quotes was from Nicole. My alone time is for everyone's safety.
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preferred Mother's day.
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restaurant and wrangle my toddlers and all that stuff.
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Yeah have you Have you come up with any other
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quotes since those days as to uh that have been
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inspiring to you? Not?
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I definitely enjoyed the the one that I brought back
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in twenty seventeen. There's no way to be a perfect
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mother and a million ways to be a good one,
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which which you immediately were like, hey, the bad one.
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don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
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every family is different. There there could there cannot be
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one way to be perfect, right, you have to be
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perfect for your part. Guller situation and Dad's how boring
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is that?
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How about you? Do you have?
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I looked up some motherhood quotes to see if I
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could find some more to share, and I would like
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to find the page that I got them off so
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I can credit them. Yes, this was it? Okay, So
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this was from a page from a website called This
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Modern Mess, and the title of the piece was Overwhelmed
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Mom quotes to encourage you when you feel like you're drowning.
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That sounded like it was our vibe. Yeah right, yeah,
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so a few that I picked. It's worth we'll have
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the link in the show notes. It's worth looking over.
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There's a lot of good ones here from various different sources,
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including a literary reference apparently JD. Salinger and Ketcher in
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the Rye wrote, mothers are all slightly insane. Not inaccurate,
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that's funny. But there was one quote that said mothers
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don't sleep. They just worry with their eyes closed.
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Oh that's for you, that's my life.
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Somebody was watching. Maybe I'm not the only one worry
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with my eyes clothes, worry with my eyes open.
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I just worry.
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great kid is a mom who is pretty sure she
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is screwing it up. Yep, accurate, that's for sure. We
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all know that. And this is this quote is from
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somebody called named Deborah Mailman, and she says that motherhood
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is wonderful, but it's also hard work. It's logistics more
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than anything. You discover you have reserves of energy you
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didn't know you had. And you know, on a more
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serious note, yeah, I certainly. Boy. You know, when I
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think of the journey I have taken with my kids
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and how much fight I had in me, I don't
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know if I knew that. And logistics also just logistics
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thing that nobody tells you it's going to be the
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main problem in your life.
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or you know something, And fairly recently it was one
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with just showing like the calendar with you know, just
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writing in every corner of the box on every day,
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and I had, you know, my my comment was just
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like I need it.
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Calendar or less to do, you know, And I look
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at all the stuff.
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is so hard.
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many like appointments, therapy appointments, this, that I was signing
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them up for every possible thing. And just fortunately my
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husband was always very good about taking kids places and
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he had a schedule that was amenable to it. Usually
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he went in real early and was home in the
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you know, after school times, right, and so he would
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pick up kids from school, he would do all that
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stuff I had to do, the arranging and the brainstorming
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and the worrying and the calling and the talking to
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and the setting up. But then then he would actually
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execute it, Yeah, which was invaluable.
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to know. Just I understand more and more I understand
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what a gift it was to have somebody who would
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just do that part of it right, so that I
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could take one kid one place while the other kid
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goes another place, or that I could just sit home
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and catch up on war or whatever, or or not
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have the excruciating part of seeing the thing that you
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set up with so much hope, and whether it's any
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good or not. Sometimes you just really don't you just
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want to go, go, go do this thing that I
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set up that I arranged with They sounded nice on
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the phone. Go I don't want to know. I'm just
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going to keep believing.
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for sure, the motherhood and not just messy or neat.
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to be two places at one time, how to structure
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your worries so that you hit every possible problem, because
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the one thing that you don't think of is the
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thing that's gonna happen for sure. Yes, yes, I've mentioned
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here before my mother's great wisdom of if you, if you,
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if you worry about things, they won't happen. So if
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something happens, it's because you didn't worry.
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Yeah, it's your fault. Everything And on that note, happen.
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Them all. Everything is your fault. Happy Mother's Day, just
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just just to kind of, you know, dig into that
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make make people give you sweets and cards and flowers
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while you wallow in self doubt and recrimination.
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the things we've talked about over the years.
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Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow.
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And I'm Catherine hileco.
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Every Thursday, we're bringing you a library find, a pick
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from our archives, and a parenting or pop culture tidbit
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or two. Let's start with Catherine's library find of the week.
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Okay, so we have a few different categories of library finds.
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I believe I've identified scatological children's nonfiction.
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As one shelf in our library. And another one is
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the board book that's sort of passive, aggressively educational for
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you know, board books.
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They are for babies, they are for little little children.
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And this one is called let's put that away, my
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first book of organizing.
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Oh my goodness.
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And yeah, and it's here's here's some of the copy
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from the publisher. Embark on a rainbow filled adventure of
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tidying up with your little ones. In this charming board book,
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the authors invite kids to unlock the joy of a
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tidy space and learn lifelong organizational skill.
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Stop it, every other baby.
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Every item from towels to toys has a home, and
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it's time to put it all back. Oh yet, these
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people are professional organizers.
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You are not surprised to hear. I think they even
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have it.
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I think they might even have a TV show.
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But Baby's First Book of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder come on now.
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One is called Messy or Neat, a Lift the Flat book,
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maybe more of a picture book than a than a
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board book.
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Flat, Messy or Neat is uh is also a board book.
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Do this to your children.
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you giving to that child's parent.
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giving your kids Messy or Neat, that book is not
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for the child.
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That is that is the selling point of these These
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are not people are not going to be buying.
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These for kids.
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They're going to be it's passive aggressively speaking to mom. Yeah,
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let's put that away.
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Look, you're going to.
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don't do that. That is that is hilarious.
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my kids went to Montessori school. Like I get that
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teaching kids to clean up is is great.
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board book kids, it's gonna the first page is going
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to be do not chew this book. It is unhygienic,
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it will stick to the books. Next year it will
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be covered with Drew and the baby. We'll just chew
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that page first, but we I mean, I want a
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book for a kid about making messes. I don't want
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books about putting stuff away. I always loved one of
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our favorite books when my kids are growing up were
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the Henry and Mudge books. And there was a lot
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of jumping into puddles, right. I always that was my
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favorite part. And at one point Dad jumped in the
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puddle too, and that was very fun. Yeah, and uh,
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that's what you want to be reading to kids exactly.
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moms have different ways of doing things, and I can
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Marie Kondo, ever do a children's book?
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Does that piece of lego give you joy?
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you I get I have something like this going right,
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would write as podcasters. Make your own podcast children.
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top of it, and then just talk.
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should move on to what you have.
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computers with a little tiny screen with the green lettering
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online thing you're typing into has bells and whistles. This
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my slightly less old days on a k Pro green type.
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which I did so. But you can set a goal
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particular session, and then it will dig satisfyingly when you
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get there. You can set up folders, and you can
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set up various different ways of handling things. You can
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change the type. But this is all these controls and
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my writing. I think I need to write more. What
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could I do to write more? So this is what
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sub stack and then I stopped, and then I'm noodling
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for whatever I feel like doing that day. It is
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very satisfying to hear the typewriter sounds. Yes, just brings
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me right back to my days with my smith Corona College.
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be a future like Catherine's Library Find of the Week.
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There's a book called Olivetti. You're heard of this, No,
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it's I think it's for It's not a children I
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think it's like a young reader. It's a chapter book.
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I happened to see it in Barnes and Noble the
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other day and it had had a typewriter on the cover,
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came over and said, oh, that's so good. I read that.
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I really like it. It's a young adult book, but
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you know, I'm sure you would really like it. So
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that was very It has to do eight Children being
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the name of a brand of type.
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Typewriters back in the day, so it has to do with.
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it's I think it's a typewriter that gets pushed aside
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and put up in the attic and you know, goes
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to seed and narrates its obsolescence, but then gets discovered
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by somebody. I think that maybe what it is. But
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it has a very attractive looking typewriter on the front,
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nice such that I had to pick it up and
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look at it and said, I remember you, yes, typewriters, typewriters.
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what is this fossil? Right? They use this like thousands
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of years ago.
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I think while I was a lie, I think I
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said here before, we have an old, old typewriter in
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our living room that long to my husband's grandfather, I think.
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they love to come and peck on that, peck on
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the keys at anytime.
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and I would remember what a pain the ribbon was, right,
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way that was acceptable looking right the same time, they
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were so tactle and yes, pleasing in a mechanical way.
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to peck on every now and then. Yeah, it's as opposed.
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like a blurb from Tom Hanks on the cover of
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the Oh there, or it was in the Tom Hanks
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book Club or something. There was some Tom Hanks reference
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So well, speaking of old things from the way back,
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what do you have from the archives this week?
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Well, it's coming up on Mother's Day, so we thought
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we would return to twenty seventeen when we talked about
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our favorite quotes on motherhood.
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Yes, we did. Do you guys, do do you still
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do anything for Mother's Day? Is that like an event
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in your house? Do you get presents and cards and dinner?
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I yeah, I get cards and usually some small presence.
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you know, there's definitely no more like kid made breakfast
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in bed and all that stuff, Thank goodness. But yeah,
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and you know, I still have a living mother, so
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there's there's coordination with my siblings who see her all
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the time, and live, you know, in the same town
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as her, and you know, she doesn't want like gift
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gifts usually.
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but you know, usually because my sister who lives there
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is a floral designer, so there's often flowers, but there's
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also flowers all the time, you know. Any there's often
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a leftover bouquet at my mom's house, so it's not
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You know, to get to get one for Mother's Day.
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that kind of thing, and yeah, that's kind of what it.
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whether we even still go out or don't do cards
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anymore because we've decided cards are too expensive and then
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they sit on the dining room table and I feel
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bad about throwing them away. It cost five dollars, but
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at the same time they're just clutter and it annoys everybody.
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a no card family now, which breaks my heart. As
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a former Hallmark employee has priced yourself out. Yeah, no kidding,
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it's maybe I get a happy Mother's Day. The thing
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for me Mother's Day has always been since I have
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been a mother, the main attraction of Mother's Day is
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I get to stand up in chart right, Yes, that's
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all I need to do, all right, I am have
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the Mother's Day thing. Mothers stand up for a blessing. Yes,
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so long I waited for that and finally could get it.
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I was so happy.
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makes my mother's day. The rest is just gravy, right,
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quotes was from Nicole. My alone time is for everyone's safety.
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had little kids, and alone time was for sure my
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preferred Mother's day.
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I'm preach.
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restaurant and wrangle my toddlers and all that stuff.
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myself to Starbucks or whatever, you know, Like, yeah, so that's.
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That's not really a part of the situation anymore obviously, but.
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know every day of Smather's day.
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Yeah have you Have you come up with any other
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quotes since those days as to uh that have been
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inspiring to you? Not?
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I definitely enjoyed the the one that I brought back
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in twenty seventeen. There's no way to be a perfect
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mother and a million ways to be a good one,
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which which you immediately were like, hey, the bad one.
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don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
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Or whatever that ext that line is.
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You know, of courses, we always say every child is different,
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every family is different. There there could there cannot be
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one way to be perfect, right, you have to be
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perfect for your part. Guller situation and Dad's how boring
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is that?
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How about you? Do you have?
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I looked up some motherhood quotes to see if I
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could find some more to share, and I would like
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to find the page that I got them off so
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I can credit them. Yes, this was it? Okay, So
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this was from a page from a website called This
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Modern Mess, and the title of the piece was Overwhelmed
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Mom quotes to encourage you when you feel like you're drowning.
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That sounded like it was our vibe. Yeah right, yeah,
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so a few that I picked. It's worth we'll have
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the link in the show notes. It's worth looking over.
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There's a lot of good ones here from various different sources,
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including a literary reference apparently JD. Salinger and Ketcher in
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the Rye wrote, mothers are all slightly insane. Not inaccurate,
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that's funny. But there was one quote that said mothers
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don't sleep. They just worry with their eyes closed.
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Oh that's for you, that's my life.
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Somebody was watching. Maybe I'm not the only one worry
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with my eyes clothes, worry with my eyes open.
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I just worry.
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And then another quote, also from anonymous, is behind every
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great kid is a mom who is pretty sure she
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is screwing it up. Yep, accurate, that's for sure. We
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all know that. And this is this quote is from
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somebody called named Deborah Mailman, and she says that motherhood
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is wonderful, but it's also hard work. It's logistics more
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than anything. You discover you have reserves of energy you
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didn't know you had. And you know, on a more
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serious note, yeah, I certainly. Boy. You know, when I
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think of the journey I have taken with my kids
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and how much fight I had in me, I don't
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know if I knew that. And logistics also just logistics
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thing that nobody tells you it's going to be the
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main problem in your life.
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Yeah, how am I going to get this?
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You know?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, Once in a while I get a Facebook memory
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or you know something, And fairly recently it was one
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with just showing like the calendar with you know, just
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writing in every corner of the box on every day,
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and I had, you know, my my comment was just
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like I need it.
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I need a bigger.
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Calendar or less to do, you know, And I look
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at all the stuff.
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That was on there, I was like, oh gosh, this
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is so hard.
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Yeah, yeah, oh gosh. The years when I had so
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many like appointments, therapy appointments, this, that I was signing
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them up for every possible thing. And just fortunately my
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husband was always very good about taking kids places and
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he had a schedule that was amenable to it. Usually
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he went in real early and was home in the
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you know, after school times, right, and so he would
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pick up kids from school, he would do all that
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stuff I had to do, the arranging and the brainstorming
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and the worrying and the calling and the talking to
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and the setting up. But then then he would actually
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execute it, Yeah, which was invaluable.
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Some help with the other stuff would have been nice
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to know. Just I understand more and more I understand
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what a gift it was to have somebody who would
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just do that part of it right, so that I
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could take one kid one place while the other kid
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goes another place, or that I could just sit home
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and catch up on war or whatever, or or not
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have the excruciating part of seeing the thing that you
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set up with so much hope, and whether it's any
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good or not. Sometimes you just really don't you just
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want to go, go, go do this thing that I
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set up that I arranged with They sounded nice on
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the phone. Go I don't want to know. I'm just
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going to keep believing.
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Right that it's the right thing.
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I But.
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You know, you do. You do develop some skills, that's
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for sure, the motherhood and not just messy or neat.
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And where does this belong, but how to negotiate, how
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to be two places at one time, how to structure
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your worries so that you hit every possible problem, because
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the one thing that you don't think of is the
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thing that's gonna happen for sure. Yes, yes, I've mentioned
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here before my mother's great wisdom of if you, if you,
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if you worry about things, they won't happen. So if
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something happens, it's because you didn't worry.
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Yeah, it's your fault. Everything And on that note, happen.
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Them all. Everything is your fault. Happy Mother's Day, just
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just just to kind of, you know, dig into that
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make make people give you sweets and cards and flowers
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while you wallow in self doubt and recrimination.
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Happy holidays to us all.
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