S9 EP46: Jack Dee (The Return)

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Hello I'm Rob Beckett and I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting.
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Hell the show in which Josh and I discuss what
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it's really like to be a parent which I would
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say can be a little tricky.
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So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're.
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Coping or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you the listener with
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your tips advice and of course tales of parenting.
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Woe because let's be honest there are plenty of times
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where none of us know what we're doing.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... I don't know
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if this is going to be in time for today's record,
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but I just want to... Let's do it again. Just
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a bit of fun. Just a bit of fun. I
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was like, oh God, what's happened now? Just enjoy life, Rob.
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Can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Good boy.
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And can you say Josh Widdicombe?
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Josh Widdicombe. Fantastic. Well done. She was surprised with that.
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He nailed it.
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This is my 27-month-old Zachary.
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Two and a bit.
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He's recently become big brother to Oscar, who was an
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unplanned home birth.
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Was the baby unplanned or the home birth unplanned?
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Home birth was unplanned because it left us with quite
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a story to tell and a large stain on the
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living room floor. Cleaners here on Tuesday. We absolutely love
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the podcast. It's got a professional job, though, that, hasn't it?
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That's a special bit of equipment to clean up. It's
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a deep clean, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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It's like Dexter, kind of. We absolutely love the podcast.
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Thank you for all the laughs and for keeping us
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sane during all the sleepless nights. Alice, 400 months. Chris,
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440 months. Zachary, 27 months. And Oscar, three months. From
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Sutton Coalfield. Originally Lincolnshire, hence no Brummie accent. I didn't
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know Sutton Coalfield. was in the Midlands. Ever played Sutton Coldfield, Rob? No,
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I feel like I've been there. Or their football team. No,
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Sutton are. That is South West London. Yeah, but I
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think Sutton Coldfield are a team as well, aren't they?
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Sutton United caused a huge upset in the blocate the pie.
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Do you remember that?
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Yeah, but Sutton Coldfield Town are a team as well
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in the non-league div one.
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Non-league div one. Shout out to Plymouth Argyle, who are
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playing Liverpool tomorrow, Rob. Oh, what, in the FA Cup? Actually,
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on Sunday. They're playing Liverpool on Sunday. Are they on
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the telly?
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Yeah.
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Do you want to know where I'll be, Rob? Where
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will you be? Taking my daughter to see Strictly Come
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Dancing live at the O2.
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Wow.
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Doesn't that make me a wonderful dad? Hang on.
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So what time is the football?
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Three. We're going to the matinee.
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Oh, yeah.
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You can have it on your phone, can't you?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I'm in the box, so maybe I can actually.
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Sat there on the phone, not watching. They'll get you
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up there.
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Replace Wyn Evans. He's off it now. Do you know what?
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I've been waiting for the call. I've been waiting for
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the call.
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Because Chris McCausland, I think, is the first winner not
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to do the tour ever, isn't he?
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Yeah, I was talking to him. He was gutted, actually, genuinely.
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Was he?
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He wanted to do that and his tour, but he'd
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already rescheduled his tour. For the original Strictly, and he thought,
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I can't.
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Reschedule it again.
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No, that's a piss tag.
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Do listen to Chris and Diane's podcast, which is out now,
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if you're a Strictly fan or a Chris McCausland fan.
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Oh, absolutely. By the way, Rob.
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Yeah?
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Can I ask you a question about O2 tickets? Yeah.
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So, my daughter is a... become a mega fan of
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Sabrina Carpenter in the last two weeks. Yes.
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She's doing the O2.
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Yes.
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I think Viagogo is the spawn of the devil, an
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absolute scum.
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Yes. This episode is sponsored by.
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If you don't know Viagogo, it's a website in which
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people buy tickets and then sell them for a greatly
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inflated value.
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It's a touting website. I'm going to say it.
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You're better off, especially for like comedy tours and stuff,
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just ringing the venue and asking if you put a
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waiting list because there's always at least 20, 30 tickets
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released on the week because they're held back as guest
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list tickets. So if someone sold out, they'll always put
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like 20, 30 tickets on sale.
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And if you speak to the box office, they can
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put you on the list for them.
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Do you think I can take my daughter to Hyde
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Park because I can't get tickets to the O2?
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She's doing Hyde Park. Is Seven going to be a nightmare?
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Hyde Park? You know, like British Summertime. You know those
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British Summertime gigs? So I went there, yeah, and saw Adele,
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and it was brilliant.
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There's an area, though, that if you get in the
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front area bit, where it's a bit more of an
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expensive ticket.
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The Golden Circle. The Golden Circle. I think that's what
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it's called. It's a little bit more space.
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Yeah.
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And that's where we were stood. Whereas the further back bit,
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you're not seeing much. And she'd probably have to go
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on your shoulders for most of it.
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Oh God.
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And then you'd have to go on someone else's shoulders
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as well. Oh, it's a bit of fun. It's a
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bit of fun. Get a big trench coat, pay one ticket.
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I just don't, it's a lot of standing up as well,
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isn't it?
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I think for that age group, you'd be better off
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at the O2, but is it just completely sold out?
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It's completely sold out. Anyway, there we go.
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If anyone's got any Sabrina Carpenter tickets they want to sell,
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contact Josh.
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Or pay face value. Pay face value, no more, no less.
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I'll chuck in tickets to my tour. Yeah, or just
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face value. Or just face value.
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They don't have to have a moral obligation once they've
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got the cash.
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The worst would be if they said, I'll sell you
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some face value and I don't want the tour tickets.
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Or I'll sell them to you half price if I
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have to go to you. Will you be checking whether
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I use your tour tickets? Because I'm happy to accept them, but....
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Is there a spotlight on the two empty seats when
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I don't turn up?
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Can I just say I definitely don't want a meet
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and greet. That would be the worst case scenario. What
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have you been up to, Josh?
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Any news? What's going on?
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Gigging, working, families, feeling better, feeling good?
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Sorry, I never got round because of Lou's incredible voice notes.
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Go back and listen to Tuesday's episode because it's an
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absolute corker.
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Sorry. There's a lot of goat chat to get through,
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but it's worth it. Yeah, yeah. Then the goat appears.
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Am I right?
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So what did you say? What didn't we get round to?
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Because of all the voice note stuff? First ever sleepover.
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Oh, yes. How was that? Well, they were incredibly well behaved.
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Yeah.
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So.
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She came round, her friend, they'd stole a load of
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snacks from the cupboard, but that's deal. You know, you're like,
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I want them to do that because I want them
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to have that feeling.
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Do you know what I mean? So you didn't say
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it was okay to nick the snacks, they just sort
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of sneaked in and got them? They sneaked in.
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Oh, that's fun.
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Yeah, it was fun.
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Yeah.
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I think they might have gone through a whole packet
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of milk chocolate digestives, but that's life.
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So do they, are both the kids out of your
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bedroom now?
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Yeah.
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So they're both in their own rooms?
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Yeah, yeah.
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All night?
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No, my son comes in. He trundles in. My wife
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said to him about him trundling in. Now he thinks
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trundle is the actual terminology for coming into our bed.
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So he's like... I'm trundling.
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Yeah, so he could trundle in anything from... 3 till 7.30.
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Sometimes he doesn't trundle in, sometimes he comes in at 3.
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Which I quite like, to be honest. We both agreed
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we quite like it when he gets in bed. His
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bed etiquette's got better. Right, he's not as hoggy. And
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he is, after all, quite small. He got to hang
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out with them. So basically, it was easier than if
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we hadn't been doing a sleepover.
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Yeah.
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And then in the morning, woke up to them coming
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up and down stairs and a lot of crashing about.
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And then I went up and they'd taken all the
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cushions and built, basically the whole room was a bed
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by this point, a bedroom.
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Right.
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Her room was a fucking steak. Her room was absolutely horrific,
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but they were very well behaved apart from that.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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They were very.
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They're going to make a bit of a mess, but
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she's old enough to tide it now, isn't she?
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It was beyond saving.
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Right. And she had a friend coming around an hour
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after her first friend left.
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Fucking hell. I know. That is so you.
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You are....
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You are zero buffer man i'm zero buff you know
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after this podcast i've got to do that i've got
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you allow yourself very little time between things well.
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It's because they basically that was the first thing booked
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in was the friend coming around on the sunday and
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then last weekend she was this other friend over that
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she had sleepovers she's like can we have a sleepover
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we're like not today because it's out of nowhere but
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next week and then suddenly zero buffer man kicks in zero.
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Was there any crossover or did they all come at
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the right times?
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They all came at the right times.
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You see someone like, hey, I'm coming for a play date.
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And it's like, there's someone else already here.
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Yeah.
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And the whole room's a bed.
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Yeah.
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We had to say, look, this isn't good enough. The
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room is a fucking state.
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Because it was like sequins from a box everywhere on
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the carpet with the box still open. Two Pritt sticks
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that have gone dry. All that, just like times a million. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then this is so like, I know it's good
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that your children are talking about their feelings.
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I think that's a good thing.
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It's so Gen Z or whatever generation she is.
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She was like, when you get angry, it makes me sad.
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And you're like, you can't go, well, that's the point.
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Because you're like, oh, God.
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Oh, God. And you're like, I would never have said
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that as a kid. Do you know what I mean?
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I never had the. But then what are you angry about?
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Because don't you just expect that mess? I can't tell
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you how bad the room was.
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Like, so it was more, it wasn't just, it was messy.
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It's like every single box had been emptied. So if
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I go in and it's some state and I go, right,
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this is a mess.
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You need to tidy. I'm not angry straight away at
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the mess.
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No.
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I'll say, right.
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Okay.
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You've had fun.
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It would have been physically impossible for her to tidy
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this up in less than five hours.
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room that bad i might have a photo i can't
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remember what i'll say is i would say like all
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right you need to tie this up and then i
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can't put a check and if they've done nothing then
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i'll get slightly more aerated but you know you're taking
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a piss now kind of thing but so this is
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i'd say but you stress because you've got the other
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friend coming slightly because it's like you can't have a child.
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straight into the other friend. But then you get to
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the point, you're like, I shouldn't have got angry. Do
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you know, we didn't get that angry. I think what
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it was, was the sleepover had gone really well. And
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then it's that thing of it slightly ruining it for her. Well,
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that's what the thing is. If I'm having a sleepover,
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I know it was because it came last minute. You
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don't want another play date straight after because you need
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time to tidy up and sort out the mess.
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And for the kids to have a little calm down.
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So you're going, oh, God, someone's coming around a minute.
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It's a state. Yeah.
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Where if they weren't coming around, you could just go, right,
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tidy it up, and she does it in her own time.
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Yeah. This isn't as bad as it was. This is
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like during the tidy. This is probably 20 minutes into
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the tidy. And this is adults helping.
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Yeah. Yeah. I can't tell you how many sequins there
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are on the floor. Out of shot.
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The problem is the other person coming, isn't it?
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Because if they weren't coming, you'd just go, right, your
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friend's left at 11am or whatever. You need to tidy
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this up today before, you know, this needs to be
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tidied up.
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Oh, bless her.
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They look like they've had fun though. But it's great
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that we're having discussions about emotions and all of that.
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You make me feel sad. You make me feel sad
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when you get angry about something. And do you know what?
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Fair enough. That's why I did it.
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So you'd get fucking upset and sort it out because
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you don't want me.
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Angry again, do you?
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Why did I do it?
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Because I couldn't control my emotions because I was so
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annoyed at all the sequins.
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You don't like this feeling, so don't do it again.
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But it's rare.
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Right.
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Shall we bring on our guest? Yes.
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Oh, this is brilliant. We love this guy. His kids
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have flown the nest now, I think, though. So an
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empty nester, is he now?
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I think he is.
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I don't know because we're recording this just before.
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We don't know. We'll find out. Due to London prices.
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They might still be in the house.
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But it's the brilliant Jack D, one of the greatest
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comics this country's ever produced.
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And a lovely bloke, even though he doesn't want the
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world to know it. Great guy. Lovely guy. Great guy.
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Here's Jack D. Hello, Jack D. Welcome back to the podcast.
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You look like you're in a hotel, and I'd say
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you don't look like you're happy there.
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What is it makes you think this is a hotel?
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Because it's just curtains that no one would have at home,
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is it?
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Now it's all good if this is your home.
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If it's your home, question one, why have you got
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an orange stripe down the middle of your curtain?
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I know, it is quite a strange thing. It's a
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trim rather than a stripe. I think you'd have to say,
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if I wanted stripy curtains and you'd ended up with that,
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you'd be disappointed.
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You would have had to specify, no, more than one stripe.
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LAUGHTER I missed the S off the end of the
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word on the email. Thanks for coming back on, Jack.
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How you been?
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I'm very well. Very well indeed. I'm speaking to you
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from Exeter. Oh, are you? Yeah, I'm on tour. Are
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you in the Duvan? Yeah. I was in the Duvan
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last week.
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Oh, were you?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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There's lots of signs saying they won't accept rudeness to
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staff or rowdy behaviour, which.
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We're here, I think.
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The breakfast was very busy when I was there last week.
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Was it?
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You must have gone down too early. I went down
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about 9.30 and it's all right.
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I had a question.
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As you can see, Jack, our podcast has really grown
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into some really high-level chat.
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It really has. I think it's what people tune in for, though,
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isn't it?
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I was going to steer it by saying I still enjoy...
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being able to have an uninterrupted breakfast which is what
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i had this morning i didn't have to kind of
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answer questions.
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Uh so we were discussing this beforehand do any of
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your children still live in in shes d i've.
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Got one staying with us still and um he's about
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to move out so we will be an empty nest
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then technically is the term isn't it and i they
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all come back and sort of stay periodically you know
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but that's as guests rather than.
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Because you know they're in trouble or something but.
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Touchwood how do you feel about it i like it
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sorry was i too.
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Was I too quick answering that? Of course I like it.
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I can remember they're in their twenties and thirties now,
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my kids, you know, I didn't want them to stay.
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Forever it's weirder to be desperate from to be there
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in their 30s isn't it like please don't go you
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don't want to be that guy they have to go.
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And find their own thing and you know.
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It's great it's difficult actually when because we they've all
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lived in london all their life so it's quite difficult
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to do that thing that lots of people do which
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is i'm going to leave home and go and live
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in london because they're already in london you know and
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so one of my sons he sort of broke it
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to us i've got something to tell you what's this
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going to be then he says i'm going to go
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and live in north london That was his way of
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being a rebel and running away from home. So he
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actually likes it. So he's there up in North London.
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Yeah, because that's the thing of, like, if you're moving out,
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the point of moving out is to go somewhere else
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different or whatever. But they're essentially standing in the same place,
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but I imagine just in a shitter house.
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One would hope so, yeah. LAUGHTER I don't want to
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be outstripped at this point. I want them to pace
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their trajectory of success so that they become multimillionaires just
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at the point when I'm going to need that kind
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of support. Yeah.
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A couple of months. Yeah, not long.
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And would I be fair in saying that you've upped
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your work? It feels like you're on tour a lot
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more now that your kids are in their 20s. It's
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a massive tour, this.
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I think that when the children were quite small, I
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sort of was looking for something else to do other
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than constantly tour. And although I made light of the
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fact that when they were very tiny, I actually booked
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a tour just to get away from them. I make
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no apology for that. I had four kids on the
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six in the house. I couldn't stand it. So I just,
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I said to my agent, just put me a tour.
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And where do you want to go?
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Anywhere. I don't care.
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So this car would turn up and I'd crawl into
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the back seat and sleep and then wake up at
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any venue and just do the show. But when they
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got slightly more, you know, enjoyable to be around, it
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took about 10 years to be honest, but I, that's
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when I started doing sitcoms and lead balloon and stuff.
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And I'm, one of the big drivers for me was
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to be around and be at home a bit more.
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So for about six years, I didn't do stand up
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during that period.
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You managed to time it as well with the, um,
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with the standup and DVD money boom. You really managed
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to pick the right time to get out the standup game.
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We were very fortunate with being able to do it
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in the nineties. And, uh, and so yes, it was,
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it was great. You can do your standup and then
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make a film of it and sell it to the
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TV station and then sell it as a, a VHS
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or a DVD or whatever it was going to be.
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And so that part of the market has fallen away,
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but it's not, this is going to sound disingenuous. You know,
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we don't simply do it for the money. Oh, It
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was worth a try. It was worth a try.
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You made a conscious decision then when they got a
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bit older. So when they were like around 10, you
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had like their teenage years and their early teens. You
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were at home doing jobs at home more than the traveling.
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A bit more.
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And the other thing I did was I didn't do
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Edinburgh Fringe Festival because it's August.
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It's the summer holidays. And I just think, you know,
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I can't.
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I just don't want to spend every August in Edinburgh
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doing that surrounded by people moaning about their careers. I
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could actually be at home and having a nice time
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going to the beach and doing stuff like that. So
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I'm not painting myself as some great martyr, but a
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little bit of getting the priorities right at that stage
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was probably the right thing.
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Yeah.
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Did you miss stand up when you were doing that?
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Do you know what? It took me quite a long
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time to get into it again.
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It really did.
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It was funny enough. the late Jeremy Hardy said to me,
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you must start again. You've got to do it again.
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Whether that was a compliment or he just wanted me
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to stop making lead balloon, I don't know. But he
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took me along to this little gig and it was
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like my first ever gig again. It was horrible. I couldn't,
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I just didn't know what to do. But of course
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it bit me again and I couldn't leave it at that.
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I couldn't leave it at not being able to do standup,
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but I had to learn again. I was quite shocked
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at how how you deteriorate as a comedian if you
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don't do it regularly.
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On Jeremy Hardy, you once told me, could you just
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tell Rob this if he hasn't heard it? When you
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visited Jeremy Hardy and you told him about Sean Walsh,
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your podcast partner, Sean was going through strictly debacle and
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you visited Jeremy Hardy who was in hospital with cancer and.
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You said, it's terrible about Sean Walsh, isn't it?
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And he said, Jack, There's problems, and then there's problems.
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I probably did. It's very hard to think of things
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to say, you know. He went to fill the air.
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Yeah, he was pretty robust anyway. I remember I took him,
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because he couldn't drive, I took him to an appointment
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at the hospital, and we walked into this ward so
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he could have his chemotherapy, and he introduced me to it.
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This is my friend Jack. He's here on work experience
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for when he gets cancer.
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LAUGHTER It was like when Harry Hill phoned Sean Lock
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when Sean Lock was in a hospice and he said,
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what's it like?
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And Sean Lock said, the sex is incredible.
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Yeah.
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Well, you know, it's that stuff that gets you through
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those moments, I guess.
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Yeah.
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Going back to Sean Walsh, because you do your podcast
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together about your dogs, but obviously your personal life comes
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up as well, what you're up to. Talking about you
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having that break of six years or so when your
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kids were older and you wanted to see them and
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now they're an empty nest or whatever.
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You're back on the road and doing stuff. Sean is
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now like.
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right in the eye of the storm of he's got
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like a two-year-old daughter a baby that's due next month
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underdog and they're trying to move house yes what's it
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00:19:59.619 --> 00:20:01.480
like from you know the position of you've been there
502
00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:03.710
done that and seen that like you know chatting to
503
00:20:03.750 --> 00:20:05.529
him every day and watching him go through that do
504
00:20:05.569 --> 00:20:07.250
you offer him advice and talk to him about.
505
00:20:07.029 --> 00:20:11.150
It Honestly, one of the most enigmatic things about Sean
506
00:20:11.170 --> 00:20:15.400
Walsh is that he, unless it relates to his dog Mildred,
507
00:20:15.619 --> 00:20:19.230
he very rarely talks about his child, his daughter. I mean, it's...
508
00:20:21.509 --> 00:20:25.069
I'm always amazed how little it comes into his, he
509
00:20:25.089 --> 00:20:27.250
talks endlessly about Mildred the Cockapoo.
510
00:20:27.269 --> 00:20:28.329
It's a strange thing.
511
00:20:28.390 --> 00:20:30.960
And you see, I talk to him every week, obviously
512
00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:33.019
on the podcast and I'm in touch with him. And
513
00:20:33.059 --> 00:20:35.119
I didn't even know that the next one was coming
514
00:20:35.180 --> 00:20:36.940
along next. I didn't know it so soon.
515
00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.299
I just thought, so he doesn't talk about it.
516
00:20:40.660 --> 00:20:43.190
I think he's, that's his way of coping, you know,
517
00:20:43.529 --> 00:20:44.609
head down and plow on.
518
00:20:44.630 --> 00:20:45.609
What's it like?
519
00:20:45.849 --> 00:20:48.170
And I suppose this is a question for both mine
520
00:20:48.190 --> 00:20:51.940
and Rob's future. what's it like to kind of be
521
00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:56.559
in a relationship again with your wife where the kids
522
00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.630
aren't the center of it cool that's heavy.
523
00:20:59.369 --> 00:21:03.789
I'm sorry that's telling us more about is everything okay
524
00:21:03.809 --> 00:21:10.470
at home josh It gets better, Josh. I basically want
525
00:21:10.490 --> 00:21:11.890
you to tell him it's going to be okay.
526
00:21:12.470 --> 00:21:14.849
Because obviously our whole life is our kids at the moment.
527
00:21:14.890 --> 00:21:16.730
And then you go out for dinner and you'll try
528
00:21:16.789 --> 00:21:18.930
not to talk about your kids or whatever. There's like
529
00:21:18.970 --> 00:21:20.890
a great episode of Outnumbered where they go out for
530
00:21:20.930 --> 00:21:22.839
dinner and all they do is talk about their kids.
531
00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:24.059
That's a brilliant episode.
532
00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:25.200
As they all are.
533
00:21:25.579 --> 00:21:28.559
It's just, I kind of imagine rattling around in the
534
00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:30.019
house and the kids have gone.
535
00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:32.220
One thing is it happens gradually.
536
00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:35.259
So I suppose you have time to adapt generally if you're,
537
00:21:35.700 --> 00:21:37.839
Unless you just pack them all off to boarding school
538
00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:39.880
on the same day or something. And then I think
539
00:21:39.900 --> 00:21:43.789
that would cause its own crisis. I've seen Ivo's play.
540
00:21:44.009 --> 00:21:46.029
Let's put it that way.
541
00:21:47.130 --> 00:21:49.589
So I think that, you know, if the relationship is
542
00:21:49.630 --> 00:21:52.769
good in the first place and if you've always made
543
00:21:52.849 --> 00:21:53.789
time for each other.
544
00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:56.240
And those conversations, when you've.
545
00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:58.980
Got the children, when they're not there, you can pick
546
00:21:59.059 --> 00:22:00.619
up from where you carried on.
547
00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:02.480
But I'm sure you're quite right.
548
00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:05.259
If you've just spent your whole life not really talking
549
00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:07.200
to each other because you've got these kids in the middle,
550
00:22:07.859 --> 00:22:11.869
when they go, that agent that bonds you together is
551
00:22:11.930 --> 00:22:14.670
going to be missed in the relationship. And I can
552
00:22:14.710 --> 00:22:17.390
see why things can fall apart at that stage.
553
00:22:17.710 --> 00:22:17.970
Yeah.
554
00:22:18.109 --> 00:22:25.890
So as I feared. Yeah. Yeah, it's potentially good news
555
00:22:25.930 --> 00:22:26.430
for Rose.
556
00:22:28.789 --> 00:22:32.069
She's only got another 15 years to put up with me.
557
00:22:35.650 --> 00:22:38.670
Well, you'll do strictly properly once your youngest is at uni.
558
00:22:39.660 --> 00:22:43.109
straight into the fire because we're at the stage with
559
00:22:43.130 --> 00:22:44.769
young kids where it's like oh daddy I want a
560
00:22:44.809 --> 00:22:46.589
hamster or daddy can go to the park dad did
561
00:22:46.609 --> 00:22:49.349
that and it's constant do this do that what are
562
00:22:49.390 --> 00:22:51.990
your kids ringing for you now if at all what's
563
00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:54.539
is it very often is it just for a catch-up
564
00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:55.500
is it dad I need.
565
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.660
Money or can you do this as if are you used.
566
00:22:57.539 --> 00:23:03.990
Like as a service provider because it's a normal, healthy family.
567
00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:07.339
I don't get asked my opinion on anything, but Jane
568
00:23:07.420 --> 00:23:10.420
is constantly being referred to and she's on the phone
569
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:11.559
to them all the time.
570
00:23:11.579 --> 00:23:12.140
Right.
571
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.640
I'm not very good on the phone. My father, who's 94,
572
00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:17.960
is equally bad on the phone. So when I ring him,
573
00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.960
it's just so difficult to get a conversation going. This
574
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.509
is partly my fault, but I blame him as well
575
00:23:24.529 --> 00:23:26.789
because I've got his genes. But Jane is one of
576
00:23:26.809 --> 00:23:30.529
those people who's good at chatting. She's good at conversations.
577
00:23:31.130 --> 00:23:33.150
I've got this theory that part of the reason we
578
00:23:33.190 --> 00:23:35.740
do what we do is that we're better at communicating
579
00:23:35.779 --> 00:23:37.960
with audiences than we are with individuals.
580
00:23:38.220 --> 00:23:39.579
So it's a thing I'm conscious of.
581
00:23:39.619 --> 00:23:39.720
Yeah.
582
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:43.779
And I'm always trying to sort of correct that balance. But, yeah,
583
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:46.710
so they're always talking. Look, on the negative side, their
584
00:23:46.769 --> 00:23:50.750
problems can get bigger and can get to the point
585
00:23:50.789 --> 00:23:52.450
where you just can't fix it for them.
586
00:23:52.950 --> 00:23:54.940
If you want to have kids come home from school and.
587
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.680
You know, I had a bad day because I think
588
00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:58.789
I'm being bullied or something.
589
00:23:58.829 --> 00:24:00.359
You can help out. You can sort things out.
590
00:24:00.369 --> 00:24:02.250
You can go and beat up that kid. You can
591
00:24:02.289 --> 00:24:05.269
do that. There's all these things for them on their behalf.
592
00:24:05.589 --> 00:24:07.779
But when they get bigger, that kid that's bullying your
593
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:09.900
kid is frankly too big and you'd be putting yourself
594
00:24:09.940 --> 00:24:10.420
in danger.
595
00:24:10.500 --> 00:24:12.819
So keep going. And it's up to them.
596
00:24:13.700 --> 00:24:16.680
But one of our daughters is getting married this year.
597
00:24:16.740 --> 00:24:18.940
So there's a huge plan that takes up a lot
598
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.910
of time. And it's all about seeing, I don't know,
599
00:24:22.950 --> 00:24:25.349
the rites of passage are kind of playing through our
600
00:24:25.390 --> 00:24:25.890
life now.
601
00:24:25.930 --> 00:24:27.039
And we're sort of seeing these.
602
00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.200
Quite sort of grown up things starting to happen and
603
00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:32.450
they're getting their own homes together.
604
00:24:32.950 --> 00:24:33.789
It's great thing.
605
00:24:33.910 --> 00:24:35.849
You know, this is funny when you go and visit
606
00:24:35.910 --> 00:24:37.309
your child in their house.
607
00:24:37.470 --> 00:24:37.609
Yeah.
608
00:24:38.109 --> 00:24:41.150
And are you doing a speech at the wedding, Jack? Yes.
609
00:24:41.230 --> 00:24:43.079
I'm already kind of thinking, how am I going to,
610
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.240
I think I'm going to get a good 20 out
611
00:24:46.339 --> 00:24:46.740
of it.
612
00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:47.940
See what happens.
613
00:24:47.980 --> 00:24:50.420
The poor best man trying to do a speech and
614
00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:51.180
then you're there to.
615
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.420
Do the father and the bride.
616
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:52.660
Yeah.
617
00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:56.099
Look, it's one of those things where actually I hate
618
00:24:56.119 --> 00:24:59.039
doing speeches. There's even more pressure on you because I
619
00:24:59.059 --> 00:25:01.269
don't want to just make light of it and make
620
00:25:01.329 --> 00:25:04.349
a sort of turn it into a joke. And it's
621
00:25:04.410 --> 00:25:07.880
traditionally not, not the father of Bryce job to make jokes,
622
00:25:08.019 --> 00:25:09.339
but it's going to be difficult not to.
623
00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:11.299
So are you good at sincere?
624
00:25:12.269 --> 00:25:14.769
I am often sincere, but people, because they're not used
625
00:25:14.809 --> 00:25:16.349
to it, think I'm just being sarcastic.
626
00:25:16.529 --> 00:25:18.480
And that's quite difficult for me.
627
00:25:18.490 --> 00:25:21.349
So I've honestly, I've done things, you know, like, you know,
628
00:25:21.410 --> 00:25:23.650
speeches and stuff where you go and say, and you
629
00:25:23.670 --> 00:25:26.470
start by saying, oh, I'm really pleased to have been
630
00:25:26.509 --> 00:25:27.170
invited here.
631
00:25:27.490 --> 00:25:30.089
And people start laughing just because.
632
00:25:30.230 --> 00:25:34.170
I just somehow don't manage to communicate sincerity when I'm talking.
633
00:25:34.569 --> 00:25:35.670
So it's something I have to work on.
634
00:25:36.190 --> 00:25:39.710
Did you get asked permission by the son-in-law to be?
635
00:25:39.730 --> 00:25:41.970
Or is that old school now, asking permission?
636
00:25:42.390 --> 00:25:46.220
It is old school, but it's actually our son-in-law-to-be did
637
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.240
speak to me and Jane first. And I like to
638
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:51.799
think it's not asking permission, but it's a nod to
639
00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:55.200
the tradition. And it's a kind of respectful way of
640
00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.240
breaking that piece of news. And I did the same
641
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:02.880
with my father-in-law. It wasn't depending on his consent, of course.
642
00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:06.190
at all but i'm still always glad i did that
643
00:26:06.250 --> 00:26:08.329
because it was a i think it's a respectful thing
644
00:26:08.349 --> 00:26:10.789
to do and i think tradition can be very helpful
645
00:26:10.829 --> 00:26:11.670
in those things.
646
00:26:11.809 --> 00:26:14.099
I think what's interesting about that though jack is you
647
00:26:14.130 --> 00:26:17.819
did it to the father-in-law but your son-in-law to be
648
00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:20.619
knows the power dynamic so did it to both of
649
00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:23.220
you he didn't feel just you would be enough.
650
00:26:23.579 --> 00:26:27.119
I was expecting a fireside chat you know where i
651
00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:32.400
could go through his finances with him and it was
652
00:26:32.420 --> 00:26:34.460
a very nice way to have done it because he
653
00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.789
chose And it's very touching and it's a very bonding
654
00:26:37.829 --> 00:26:40.789
thing to do. And it's better than just saying, oh, yeah,
655
00:26:40.869 --> 00:26:42.029
by the way, we're getting married.
656
00:26:42.250 --> 00:26:42.589
Yeah.
657
00:26:42.609 --> 00:26:44.069
It's a major thing, marriage. Yeah.
658
00:26:44.130 --> 00:26:45.890
It's a way to make people feel included in it
659
00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:48.710
all rather than just like telling them without them not knowing,
660
00:26:48.930 --> 00:26:49.450
not permission.
661
00:26:49.490 --> 00:26:52.069
It's more just like a nice gesture, isn't it really?
662
00:26:52.089 --> 00:26:54.490
Because I remember doing it and my mother-in-law was like,
663
00:26:54.509 --> 00:26:57.650
what do you mean you're meeting Rob for lunch at work?
664
00:26:57.670 --> 00:27:00.250
Well, you're just going to go for pizza together. And
665
00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:01.519
it was obvious what was going on.
666
00:27:02.339 --> 00:27:04.180
We had pizza and had a couple of beers and
667
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:05.980
we talked about it and he was like, yeah, I'd
668
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.519
love for you to get married and stuff like that.
669
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:09.859
We ordered another beer and then I.
670
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:12.529
Was like, oh, are you going to tell Teresa?
671
00:27:12.769 --> 00:27:14.490
She kept on ringing him. He went, nah, I'll give
672
00:27:14.509 --> 00:27:22.400
her another hour. LAUGHTER Why spoil a nice evening?
673
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.400
He never gets asked anything because he's got three daughters.
674
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.480
He never knows anything first. It's the only time in
675
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:29.240
his life.
676
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:30.220
His moment.
677
00:27:30.420 --> 00:27:30.759
Yeah.
678
00:27:31.140 --> 00:27:32.859
So he milked it, to be fair.
679
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:37.059
Are you taking any part in the organising of the wedding?
680
00:27:37.779 --> 00:27:41.200
Well, I am. I'm on tour. So I'm saving up.
681
00:27:45.029 --> 00:27:46.930
I'm saving up so there'll be a couple of beers
682
00:27:46.990 --> 00:27:48.559
on the night.
683
00:27:48.619 --> 00:27:49.839
Ten quid behind the bar.
684
00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:54.759
I'm very happy to, what I might casually call delegate,
685
00:27:54.920 --> 00:27:56.910
what I really mean is step away and let them.
686
00:27:56.829 --> 00:27:57.589
Do it all. Yeah.
687
00:27:58.829 --> 00:28:01.829
It's all about choosing wedding dresses and things like that.
688
00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:04.910
I don't need to be involved in all that. You
689
00:28:04.930 --> 00:28:05.910
may be surprised to hear.
690
00:28:07.430 --> 00:28:09.490
You've always been a man who likes a suit, Jack.
691
00:28:09.769 --> 00:28:13.289
Yeah, very well dressed. Yes, I like a suit and
692
00:28:13.829 --> 00:28:15.890
I've got a great place where I get my suits now.
693
00:28:16.509 --> 00:28:18.960
They're incredibly cheap, which is what I like about it.
694
00:28:19.410 --> 00:28:21.559
Where do you get your suit? They don't look cheap. Well,
695
00:28:21.579 --> 00:28:21.960
thank you.
696
00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.700
But I get them altered so that they fit properly. Yeah.
697
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.519
I've noticed that Keir Starmer, even though he was given
698
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:32.460
these expensive suits by that bloke who was funding him,
699
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.329
but his suit jackets, the sleeves come halfway down his
700
00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:38.470
hand in quite a lot of press shots, you'll see.
701
00:28:38.950 --> 00:28:41.089
And that absolutely drives me nuts.
702
00:28:41.109 --> 00:28:42.990
You see, now that you've done that, you look like
703
00:28:43.029 --> 00:28:45.859
a teenager wearing who's gone and bought something from a,
704
00:28:46.289 --> 00:28:47.210
from a pound shop.
705
00:28:47.289 --> 00:28:48.009
It's awful.
706
00:28:48.569 --> 00:28:50.890
So you must always get it altered. And if you
707
00:28:50.910 --> 00:28:54.339
get a inexpensive suit, get it altered. You've still got
708
00:28:54.380 --> 00:28:56.519
an inexpensive suit and it'll fit nicely.
709
00:28:56.539 --> 00:28:57.539
That's my tip.
710
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:58.039
Great tip.
711
00:28:58.460 --> 00:29:01.660
I know this isn't really, you know, it's interesting for people.
712
00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:04.599
I've never actually directly asked you this. There is a
713
00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:09.759
myth that your late agent and our late agent who
714
00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:11.950
ran off the curb the company that you were in,
715
00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:13.750
and you were kind of one of his first big acts,
716
00:29:14.150 --> 00:29:16.730
he would sign an act and then he would take
717
00:29:16.809 --> 00:29:19.529
them straight to a place called Mr. Eddie's that was
718
00:29:19.569 --> 00:29:22.910
a tailor's. and put them in a suit. And is
719
00:29:22.930 --> 00:29:23.509
that true?
720
00:29:23.789 --> 00:29:24.490
Yes, that's right.
721
00:29:24.910 --> 00:29:27.900
Is it? It is absolutely true. It was called Eddie's.
722
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.440
It's still there, actually. It's not called Eddie's anymore. It
723
00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:33.259
was taken over by his nephew. You get a suit made,
724
00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:35.369
which I thought was quite fun. We went in there.
725
00:29:35.369 --> 00:29:37.910
remember when i went in there and there's one huge
726
00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:39.230
suit hanging up.
727
00:29:39.369 --> 00:29:41.930
Is it called chris kerr's now chris kerr yeah yeah
728
00:29:42.099 --> 00:29:44.119
because i was in there once and there's loads of
729
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:46.759
suits and photos from the 90s of all the different
730
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.000
canadians in suits.
731
00:29:47.819 --> 00:29:50.960
Yeah he's a brilliant tailor brilliant tailor but i went
732
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.920
in there and there's a huge suit hanging up to
733
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:54.880
be collected you know that's why i was on display
734
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.400
And then there was a really little suit, a little
735
00:29:57.460 --> 00:30:00.420
tiny suit. And I said, who are these for then?
736
00:30:00.539 --> 00:30:03.880
And he said, oh, this big one is for Robbie Coltrane.
737
00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:05.700
He hasn't come in to get it yet. And the
738
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:13.339
other one is for the PG Tips chimpanzee.
739
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:15.819
I said, based on that, I'll probably have a medium
740
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:21.589
of it. So my first suit was made at the.
741
00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:25.269
Same place as the PG Tips chimpanzee suit.
742
00:30:28.710 --> 00:30:30.190
I don't know if you need to spend that much
743
00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:32.049
money on a chimp suit, but there we go.
744
00:30:32.069 --> 00:30:34.190
Oh, yeah, no, they've got good taste. You know, fair enough.
745
00:30:34.230 --> 00:30:36.269
There was a lot of money in advertising. There still is.
746
00:30:36.549 --> 00:30:38.670
When you were talking about delegating for the wedding, and
747
00:30:38.690 --> 00:30:41.130
that's not your skill set, organising the wedding, apart from
748
00:30:41.230 --> 00:30:43.599
obviously being a brilliant comedian, what is your skill set
749
00:30:43.630 --> 00:30:46.359
in the family unit? When would they come to, like
750
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.380
Jane or the kids go, speak to Dad about that?
751
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:50.960
where do you step up to what's your what your
752
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:52.119
role i'm.
753
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.319
Very capable of uh cooking you know taking over on
754
00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.259
the cooking front yeah and i like doing that but
755
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:02.759
i'm also aware that when you treat it somewhat as
756
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.180
a rest and relaxation thing and you come home after
757
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:08.440
you've been away and touring and you fancy doing a
758
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.779
bit of cooking i do understand that that is pretty
759
00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:15.329
irritating for jane who when the kids were younger and
760
00:31:15.349 --> 00:31:18.650
she's constantly cooking and then I come back and treat
761
00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:20.839
it as like oh it's my hobby I'm going to
762
00:31:20.859 --> 00:31:22.880
do this and it's I just think it got on
763
00:31:22.940 --> 00:31:24.680
our nerves to be honest I had to rein it
764
00:31:24.740 --> 00:31:29.369
in a bit stop enjoying yourself in the kitchen yeah
765
00:31:29.390 --> 00:31:31.430
stop enjoying it's not fun you know none of this
766
00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:32.029
is fun.
767
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.700
Sorry, my mistake, yeah. But it is. I can understand
768
00:31:36.769 --> 00:31:37.089
that now.
769
00:31:37.369 --> 00:31:39.029
When I come home from tour, I don't know if
770
00:31:39.109 --> 00:31:41.130
you two are the same, because I've been away so
771
00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:43.250
much I've been in hotels or restaurants. I just want
772
00:31:43.269 --> 00:31:45.490
to stay in. I want to stay in and cook
773
00:31:45.569 --> 00:31:47.210
and not leave the house. But then obviously Lou and
774
00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.609
the kids are bored of the house and want to
775
00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:51.609
get out. So I was like, let's just stay in.
776
00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:52.309
Let's go somewhere.
777
00:31:52.329 --> 00:31:55.450
So it's a constant battle about leaving or staying in. Constantly.
778
00:31:55.470 --> 00:31:58.160
Well, I mean, you know, for us, because... really a
779
00:31:58.220 --> 00:31:59.599
night out is a night in, isn't it?
780
00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:00.779
And that's your ideal thing.
781
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.460
That's to get an evening off is a bit of
782
00:32:03.509 --> 00:32:05.170
a treat, you know, and you think, oh, that's great.
783
00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:07.700
and you realise there's telly on in the evening that
784
00:32:07.740 --> 00:32:09.980
everyone watches, and you get used to doing that again.
785
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:12.039
Because we work the other end of the clock, isn't it?
786
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:13.779
But the good thing used to be that there was
787
00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:15.200
no one around in the day, so you could get
788
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:18.039
stuff down. But now people work from home, slash don't work.
789
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.369
It's fucking busy everywhere. The shops, I used to remember
790
00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:22.460
on Monday, it'd be desolate.
791
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:25.769
Sometimes the kids come home, you walk downstairs, and they've
792
00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:28.190
got their laptop on at their kitchen table.
793
00:32:28.710 --> 00:32:31.410
And you'll say, morning, and they go, shh, I'm on
794
00:32:31.450 --> 00:32:33.390
a call. Oh, sorry about that.
795
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.490
It annoyed me, though, because I remember my son Charlie,
796
00:32:38.529 --> 00:32:41.170
when his first job he had, and he was working
797
00:32:41.210 --> 00:32:44.829
from home for this big multinational company, and he was
798
00:32:44.930 --> 00:32:47.390
stuck in his bedroom on the laptop all day. And
799
00:32:47.410 --> 00:32:51.880
I'm thinking, I'm paying for the Wi-Fi for this multinational
800
00:32:51.890 --> 00:32:53.579
company so.
801
00:32:53.380 --> 00:32:56.299
That he can... That's not right, though. It's not right
802
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:57.660
at all. So I think we have to sort of...
803
00:32:58.130 --> 00:32:58.809
Think about that.
804
00:32:59.049 --> 00:33:01.609
And it's quite antisocial, isn't it? Everyone on laptops everywhere,
805
00:33:02.130 --> 00:33:04.950
especially in cafes and stuff. Doesn't that get on your nerves?
806
00:33:04.970 --> 00:33:07.849
Well, there's a gym cafe. There was people with full-on headsets,
807
00:33:08.289 --> 00:33:10.349
laptop out in the gym clothes. They've done a session.
808
00:33:10.650 --> 00:33:12.509
And they're not just doing a bit of admin or
809
00:33:12.529 --> 00:33:14.569
sending a couple of emails. They're having full-blown meetings. I
810
00:33:14.569 --> 00:33:16.730
heard this woman go, well, we've looked at your numbers,
811
00:33:16.769 --> 00:33:18.430
and if you can't contribute more to the business, we
812
00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:20.349
might have to let you go. It's like, you can't
813
00:33:20.410 --> 00:33:22.750
fucking sack someone on Zoom at David Lloyd.
814
00:33:22.769 --> 00:33:26.450
David Lloyd? That was my agent talking to me, actually.
815
00:33:26.470 --> 00:33:33.470
LAUGHTER The days of the PG tip suits are gone, Jack.
816
00:33:33.809 --> 00:33:37.069
I'll never get one again. Yeah, it is an irritation,
817
00:33:37.109 --> 00:33:37.450
isn't it?
818
00:33:37.829 --> 00:33:41.759
Actually, I would rather see people with their kids in
819
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.859
a cafe than see people with a laptop in a cafe.
820
00:33:44.980 --> 00:33:45.180
Yeah.
821
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.420
Thinking as though they're being industrious and working when we
822
00:33:48.460 --> 00:33:49.069
all know they're not.
823
00:33:50.789 --> 00:33:53.710
I suppose another thing with your kids being in their
824
00:33:53.730 --> 00:33:58.720
20s and 30s is Christmas, has the pendulum swung that
825
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.579
you're now going to them for Christmas, or are you
826
00:34:02.259 --> 00:34:03.059
still hosting?
827
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:07.480
That hasn't happened yet, but this year, Miles, one of
828
00:34:07.539 --> 00:34:10.579
my sons, he stated that we'd all be going to
829
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.260
him for Christmas this coming year. I think it's quite
830
00:34:14.340 --> 00:34:16.610
unlikely to actually materialise that way.
831
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.349
I don't see it happening. Why do you think it's unlikely?
832
00:34:19.369 --> 00:34:20.989
Well, he hasn't yet got the flat that he said
833
00:34:21.030 --> 00:34:25.260
we'd have it in, so he's really... He's not quite
834
00:34:25.300 --> 00:34:27.119
there yet. There's quite a lot of us when we
835
00:34:27.179 --> 00:34:29.440
all get together. There's usually sort of nine or 10
836
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.739
of us. It's going to be quite a lot. If
837
00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:33.639
he does it, I would be absolutely delighted.
838
00:34:33.659 --> 00:34:34.159
It'd be great.
839
00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:36.599
And maybe one year it will happen. So no, it
840
00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:39.019
hasn't happened yet that we, we get Christmas done for us.
841
00:34:39.059 --> 00:34:39.920
We were always doing that.
842
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.840
And you're going to eventually, cause as you've got four kids,
843
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.030
eventually you'll be one of those touring, you know, the
844
00:34:47.090 --> 00:34:50.269
touring grandparents that kind of go from house to house,
845
00:34:50.309 --> 00:34:51.650
different Christmas each year.
846
00:34:52.179 --> 00:34:54.750
The other side of that is that you'll be, you know,
847
00:34:54.769 --> 00:34:56.730
looking after grandchildren as well.
848
00:34:56.769 --> 00:34:59.550
We haven't got grandchildren yet, or at least none that
849
00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:02.949
I know of. Oh, lovely. There we go. He's still
850
00:35:02.989 --> 00:35:03.530
got it. He's on tour.
851
00:35:03.550 --> 00:35:04.690
You can tell he did a hotel room.
852
00:35:04.710 --> 00:35:07.159
He's on tour. He's still firing from last night. You
853
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:08.159
can tell he's lonely.
854
00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:13.219
Do you have a tour support?
855
00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:15.579
Yes, I do, actually, yeah. But it's Charlie Baker, so
856
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:17.159
you don't want to spend any time with him.
857
00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:22.059
Sometimes it's Charlie, we've got Alex Keeley, and sometimes it's
858
00:35:22.099 --> 00:35:24.260
Jake Lambert. Oh, yeah, great. It rotates.
859
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.119
Annie Robinson does some. Oh, great guys. Yeah, they are.
860
00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:31.090
They were talking about being a grandparent, having grandchildren to
861
00:35:31.139 --> 00:35:31.510
look after.
862
00:35:31.530 --> 00:35:34.590
Well, that's it, yeah. And I've always thought I'm not
863
00:35:34.630 --> 00:35:37.550
going to be one of these on-call grandparents. I'll let
864
00:35:37.590 --> 00:35:40.250
me look after them every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday so
865
00:35:40.289 --> 00:35:41.309
you can have a nice life.
866
00:35:41.809 --> 00:35:43.110
My parents never did that for me.
867
00:35:43.130 --> 00:35:46.550
I'm already quite a soft touch when it comes to
868
00:35:46.570 --> 00:35:50.570
looking after my daughter's dog you see so i absolutely
869
00:35:50.630 --> 00:35:52.929
love having her over so i think if when it
870
00:35:52.969 --> 00:35:55.730
gets to grandchildren i know i know i'm.
871
00:35:55.610 --> 00:35:58.500
Gonna fold and yeah it'll be my thing.
872
00:35:59.099 --> 00:36:01.159
Although if i get too many at once then i'll
873
00:36:01.179 --> 00:36:02.579
just start going on tour again.
874
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.539
You'll know what's happening do you see yourself as kind
875
00:36:05.579 --> 00:36:13.219
of a never retiring ken dodd figure oh that's haunting
876
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:15.989
because i see rob as that just to be clear yeah.
877
00:36:17.510 --> 00:36:21.070
Just playing to slowly smaller and smaller crowds on my own.
878
00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:24.739
Yeah, it's difficult because I don't understand how you can
879
00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:27.659
be a comedian and then stop being a comedian.
880
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:28.139
You can't.
881
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.260
I don't know what you do with all the stuff
882
00:36:30.300 --> 00:36:32.940
you think of. And that would be the frustration. I
883
00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:35.880
could happily give up having to be hours in the
884
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.769
car and travel all over the place so much. it's
885
00:36:38.789 --> 00:36:42.780
a very wearing lifestyle, but the actual performing thing is
886
00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:45.019
just always a pleasure. It's a great thing to be
887
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.130
able to do. And I love doing it. And I
888
00:36:47.170 --> 00:36:50.820
can't imagine. you know, deciding that that's it. I'm hanging
889
00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:53.960
up my microphone. I've done my last gig, not doing
890
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.699
it anymore. Because if you think about comedy all day long,
891
00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:00.239
which we all do really, what.
892
00:37:00.139 --> 00:37:00.480
Am I going to do?
893
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:01.940
I'll put it in a notebook and then never sees
894
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.000
the light of day. But the whole point of being
895
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.090
on stage is that those ideas come to, come to
896
00:37:07.110 --> 00:37:11.369
fruition and you get that kick of having connected with
897
00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:13.869
an audience, with a thought that you had that they
898
00:37:13.889 --> 00:37:16.179
had never experienced. It never occurred to them, and it
899
00:37:16.219 --> 00:37:18.010
makes them laugh, and that's one of the most rewarding
900
00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:18.929
things I can think of.
901
00:37:19.429 --> 00:37:22.909
That is a lovely speech that has made me... So sincere.
902
00:37:22.929 --> 00:37:24.550
You could have just answered, yes, I am going to
903
00:37:24.570 --> 00:37:28.530
be a 90-year-old Ken Dodd figure. You sincere bastard. You
904
00:37:28.570 --> 00:37:31.750
can do sincerity, Jack. He's getting ready for the wedding.
905
00:37:31.809 --> 00:37:34.159
I was sincere. He's practicing. I was sincere, exactly.
906
00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:36.360
But the problem with the wedding is it's going to
907
00:37:36.420 --> 00:37:38.880
be a 20-minute speech about how much he loves stand-up, which.
908
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:43.369
Is going to be hugely misjudged. I know. Yeah, the father,
909
00:37:43.389 --> 00:37:46.670
he just talked about himself for 20 minutes. I enjoyed
910
00:37:46.690 --> 00:37:49.769
the chimp suit anecdote. That was good. It didn't seem related,
911
00:37:49.829 --> 00:37:52.769
but it was good stuff. Yeah, I didn't expect him
912
00:37:52.789 --> 00:37:59.789
to be wearing it, though. Underneath the Robbie Coltrane one.
913
00:38:01.750 --> 00:38:08.449
That's more like it, probably, yeah. Hi, this is Chris McCausland.
914
00:38:08.630 --> 00:38:10.250
And this is Diane Boswell.
915
00:38:10.570 --> 00:38:12.670
And we've got a new podcast, haven't we, Di?
916
00:38:12.690 --> 00:38:14.630
We do. What's it called?
917
00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:15.989
Winning.
918
00:38:16.409 --> 00:38:18.659
Isn't... Everything.
919
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.000
Every week, me and Diane, we're going to be having
920
00:38:21.019 --> 00:38:22.800
a little catch-up on the back of.
921
00:38:22.699 --> 00:38:24.019
Strictly, aren't we, Di?
922
00:38:24.300 --> 00:38:24.880
We are.
923
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:27.340
I've missed you, Chris. I've missed you too.
924
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.750
We're going to talk some nonsense, so why not tune in?
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Available everywhere you get your podcasts.
926
00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:36.000
I don't know if we talked about this last time
927
00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:37.380
because it was about four or five years ago, but
928
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:42.380
you were someone who had kids almost a bit younger
929
00:38:42.420 --> 00:38:46.079
than your peers or certainly you were a father when
930
00:38:46.099 --> 00:38:48.119
a lot of the kind of people that you were
931
00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:50.980
on the circuit with, maybe Frank Skinner.
932
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:55.000
Or David Baddiel or... Joe Brand. Joe Brand, weren't parents.
933
00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:58.510
Did that feel weird or did you.
934
00:38:58.659 --> 00:39:01.690
Yeah, it did because it pulls you away from the circuit.
935
00:39:01.750 --> 00:39:02.869
It certainly, I remember doing.
936
00:39:03.409 --> 00:39:05.650
We did Edinburgh a couple of years with babies.
937
00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:06.309
Yeah.
938
00:39:06.369 --> 00:39:07.989
And that is really, really hard work.
939
00:39:08.210 --> 00:39:09.909
And I became aware that, you know, when you've done
940
00:39:09.929 --> 00:39:12.360
the gig, you don't just go to the union bar
941
00:39:12.389 --> 00:39:14.760
or whatever it was where everyone was collecting. You go
942
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:16.340
back because you've got a baby and you're going to
943
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:17.940
be up early in the night. It would be up
944
00:39:17.980 --> 00:39:19.980
in the night and early in the morning. And so
945
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.340
your lifestyle changes. And I definitely noticed that I was,
946
00:39:23.889 --> 00:39:26.190
I drifted away from all the people that I.
947
00:39:26.190 --> 00:39:29.369
Was working with. I was contemporaries wise. I wasn't with
948
00:39:29.409 --> 00:39:29.969
them anymore either.
949
00:39:30.019 --> 00:39:32.300
Was out on my own a bit we did start
950
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.800
having children quite young but I'm really glad now yeah.
951
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.219
I mean Frank Skinner's got a 12 year old now
952
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.039
how would you enjoy that well.
953
00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:43.050
12 I think is an amazing age in many ways
954
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.639
I'm sure that he's enjoying that. I wouldn't want to
955
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.980
start having, you know, babies now or something.
956
00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:56.219
I mean, just terrible, wouldn't it? I mean, I'd love it.
957
00:39:56.340 --> 00:39:58.420
If I found out that you had a baby on
958
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.000
the way and getting you on the podcast when it
959
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.059
was a year old.
960
00:40:04.590 --> 00:40:07.010
Not so much dog content these days, Jack. Now you've
961
00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:07.610
got a baby.
962
00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:07.710
Yeah.
963
00:40:10.090 --> 00:40:12.250
Yeah, I think one go at it is good, but
964
00:40:12.309 --> 00:40:15.269
they're doing that second thing and, you know, in their
965
00:40:15.309 --> 00:40:17.230
late life, like the Rolling Stones or something.
966
00:40:17.750 --> 00:40:20.469
Not that it probably impacts them that much. Al Pacino.
967
00:40:20.730 --> 00:40:23.199
Al Pacino. Yeah, well, he's up doing night feeds in
968
00:40:23.219 --> 00:40:26.360
between pissing. It's unlikely. I've had seven pisses. I can't
969
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:27.949
do a bottle. Come on.
970
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.719
The wife probably said, well, I've got to get out
971
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:30.219
and change Al.
972
00:40:30.219 --> 00:40:34.239
Do both at the same time.
973
00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:36.699
Why don't we just all shit in the bed and
974
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:37.739
then change it every morning?
975
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:41.260
It's difficult.
976
00:40:41.900 --> 00:40:44.980
I just think sometimes it feels like you're chasing after
977
00:40:45.019 --> 00:40:47.840
something other than becoming a parent again. You're sort of
978
00:40:47.860 --> 00:40:50.320
trying to redo your youth or something. Yeah.
979
00:40:50.659 --> 00:40:51.500
I can't help feeling.
980
00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:54.559
Do your kids come to watch you perform? Actually, I
981
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:56.719
did a gig with you where we both, it was
982
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:58.579
a tough gig for both of us and your son
983
00:40:58.599 --> 00:40:59.460
was in the audience.
984
00:40:59.539 --> 00:41:00.360
Yes, he was, yeah.
985
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:02.179
Do they come to watch you perform and is that
986
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:03.820
in your head when they're there?
987
00:41:04.579 --> 00:41:06.159
It was early days, wasn't it? It was at the
988
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.780
Bill Murray, which is a very small club in Islington,
989
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:09.360
very small.
990
00:41:09.389 --> 00:41:10.070
It's only a 60-seater.
991
00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:15.639
So Charlie and his girlfriend were working in the city.
992
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.420
And so I said, do you want to come along?
993
00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:18.119
Which is unlike me.
994
00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:20.800
I never do that. But I hadn't seen him for ages.
995
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.280
It would be a great chance to see him. He said, yeah,
996
00:41:23.300 --> 00:41:25.599
I'd love to. I said, it's just work in progress.
997
00:41:25.659 --> 00:41:26.380
But come along.
998
00:41:26.900 --> 00:41:28.440
Put his name on the door.
999
00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:31.269
And because he arrived late, the only two seats were
1000
00:41:31.510 --> 00:41:33.730
right in front of the stage. And it's a tiny,
1001
00:41:33.789 --> 00:41:36.809
tiny room, that one. It's honestly no bigger than a
1002
00:41:36.909 --> 00:41:38.769
bedroom or something, is it, that room? It's with a
1003
00:41:38.789 --> 00:41:42.219
load of... sort of village churchill chairs and stuff and
1004
00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.260
it wasn't an easy gig either so it's quite difficult
1005
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:45.949
it's quite a test actually to do it with him
1006
00:41:46.590 --> 00:41:49.210
but yeah they've been coming since they're about 14 or
1007
00:41:49.210 --> 00:41:51.369
15 any younger than that i didn't let them come
1008
00:41:51.409 --> 00:41:53.750
yeah i didn't want them does your son-in-law was he
1009
00:41:53.789 --> 00:41:57.289
aware of who jack d was when he came into
1010
00:41:57.329 --> 00:41:58.949
the family and has he ever kind of brought that
1011
00:41:59.090 --> 00:42:01.989
up with you i don't know actually it's an interesting
1012
00:42:02.010 --> 00:42:05.070
question i've never had that conversation with him it's quite
1013
00:42:05.210 --> 00:42:08.840
intimidating missing your parents-in-law anyway i should think Well, I
1014
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:12.260
know it is. You're aware that you're on best behavior.
1015
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.579
And I suppose if you have a preconceived idea of
1016
00:42:15.619 --> 00:42:18.900
what that person would be like through social media or
1017
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.440
telly or something like that, that could possibly make the
1018
00:42:21.460 --> 00:42:25.079
experience more difficult, especially as in real life I'm not
1019
00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:26.659
as friendly as I may appear on telly.
1020
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:34.739
LAUGHTER Jack, now your kids have got their own houses. Obviously,
1021
00:42:34.780 --> 00:42:36.460
you've been in charge of the rules in their house
1022
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:38.260
for years. So, when you go and visit their house,
1023
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:40.619
are there new rules? And what's it feel like to
1024
00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:43.119
be the person being told what to do rather than
1025
00:42:43.139 --> 00:42:44.280
the one making the decisions?
1026
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.199
Well, apart from Miles, who's sort of in the process.
1027
00:42:47.219 --> 00:42:49.639
But yeah, they've got their own flats now. But it's
1028
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.429
not the same as going to stay when you stay
1029
00:42:52.449 --> 00:42:55.630
with them. The power dynamic is very different because if
1030
00:42:55.650 --> 00:42:58.070
they come to stay with you, they pick up from
1031
00:42:58.090 --> 00:42:58.869
where they left off.
1032
00:42:59.369 --> 00:43:01.550
And as far as they're concerned, it's their house.
1033
00:43:02.250 --> 00:43:04.460
I wouldn't be surprised if Jane and I just move
1034
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:06.440
just to make the point, but it's not.
1035
00:43:09.989 --> 00:43:12.670
Are their bedrooms like a kind of like mine was
1036
00:43:13.070 --> 00:43:17.150
my parents moved when I was probably about 23 maybe
1037
00:43:17.170 --> 00:43:19.650
a bit younger than that maybe 21 but until then
1038
00:43:19.710 --> 00:43:21.909
it was like I'd come back and it's a time
1039
00:43:21.949 --> 00:43:24.670
capsule of my teenage bedroom yeah.
1040
00:43:24.550 --> 00:43:26.409
There is a bit of that and we sort of
1041
00:43:26.449 --> 00:43:29.320
did move her house when they were teenagers so it's
1042
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.619
not like they've got Thomas the Tank Engine curtains and
1043
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.400
stuff that they come back to it's not quite as
1044
00:43:34.460 --> 00:43:39.179
bad as that Although we still use their bed linen.
1045
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:42.500
Jane and I, because this is a dog thing, but
1046
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:44.219
our little dog sleeps on the.
1047
00:43:44.179 --> 00:43:44.519
Bed with us.
1048
00:43:44.579 --> 00:43:46.500
And we a long time ago realized it's much more
1049
00:43:46.539 --> 00:43:49.449
comfortable if you have single duvets on a double bed.
1050
00:43:49.469 --> 00:43:53.369
Because all the kids had single duvet covers. And now
1051
00:43:53.630 --> 00:43:56.869
I've still used their duvet covers. But this is some
1052
00:43:56.969 --> 00:43:59.429
about 12 years ago. We were trying to sell our house.
1053
00:44:00.230 --> 00:44:02.590
The cleaning lady said, I'll change the sheets for you.
1054
00:44:03.269 --> 00:44:05.369
And these people came and looked around the house and
1055
00:44:05.409 --> 00:44:07.130
said they didn't think it was for them. And I
1056
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:09.380
went up to our bedroom and she had put a
1057
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:16.400
SpongeBob SquarePants duvet cover on my head.
1058
00:44:16.579 --> 00:44:18.659
They just thought, oh, it's a bit tragic, you know,
1059
00:44:18.739 --> 00:44:19.630
when they're in this house.
1060
00:44:19.670 --> 00:44:19.829
Yeah.
1061
00:44:21.010 --> 00:44:22.949
Do you think she was aware it was your house?
1062
00:44:23.010 --> 00:44:24.829
Is she walking around with an anecdote?
1063
00:44:25.130 --> 00:44:27.599
It'd be interesting to know, but I wouldn't be surprised
1064
00:44:27.619 --> 00:44:30.400
if there's someone out there doing a podcast about people's
1065
00:44:30.420 --> 00:44:31.280
houses I've looked.
1066
00:44:31.139 --> 00:44:33.860
Around and what I found. And one of the most
1067
00:44:33.929 --> 00:44:40.190
alarming was Jack D's. Really strange episode of Through the Keyhole. Yeah, very,
1068
00:44:40.389 --> 00:44:40.829
very odd.
1069
00:44:40.849 --> 00:44:43.389
Who would have a SpongeBob SquarePants single duvet on a
1070
00:44:43.429 --> 00:44:43.869
double bed?
1071
00:44:43.889 --> 00:44:47.300
Because two single duvets is against the norm, even though
1072
00:44:47.409 --> 00:44:50.320
sharing a duvet is insane when you consider it for
1073
00:44:50.340 --> 00:44:51.860
like eight hours a night.
1074
00:44:51.880 --> 00:44:54.199
You're fighting over a rag. for the rest of your life.
1075
00:44:54.219 --> 00:44:56.929
You don't need that. Just to sort it out early on.
1076
00:44:57.250 --> 00:44:59.630
It's not that uncommon on the continent. So I like
1077
00:44:59.650 --> 00:45:02.869
to think on the continent. Well, it's an old phrase.
1078
00:45:03.630 --> 00:45:05.019
On the continent. The Jerry's.
1079
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:08.119
Yes, our friends in the common market are very used
1080
00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:09.760
to the single duvet.
1081
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:13.610
Imagine sharing a massive pillow. Yes, good point. It's a very,
1082
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:15.369
very good analogy. You wouldn't do that.
1083
00:45:15.389 --> 00:45:18.630
So why would you share a duvet? It's much better.
1084
00:45:18.949 --> 00:45:20.489
And then the dog can sleep in the middle. You've
1085
00:45:20.530 --> 00:45:22.849
both got enough on top of you. And then when
1086
00:45:22.909 --> 00:45:25.409
I get kicked out in the morning, because I wake
1087
00:45:25.449 --> 00:45:27.110
too early, so Jane kicks me out and I can
1088
00:45:27.130 --> 00:45:28.199
just take my duvet with me.
1089
00:45:28.219 --> 00:45:28.449
What?
1090
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:29.449
What?
1091
00:45:29.469 --> 00:45:31.280
Sorry, we're going to have to dig down into the
1092
00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.079
timings here. Where do you get kicked out to and
1093
00:45:34.179 --> 00:45:37.019
at what time? Very often I'll wake up very early,
1094
00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:38.280
about six or something.
1095
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:38.780
Right.
1096
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:43.340
And then Jane complains that I'm doing things that annoy her, like,
1097
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:48.320
you know, breathing. And she's quite intolerant of it. Basically,
1098
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.820
I take my duvet, I go downstairs. And quite often
1099
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.469
the funny thing is I'll fall asleep. I'll fall asleep
1100
00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:57.210
on the sofa with my duvet. And then she'll come
1101
00:45:57.289 --> 00:45:59.199
in with a cup of tea about 8.30. But I
1102
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.800
wouldn't have gone back to sleep if I was in bed.
1103
00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:02.929
I don't know what it is.
1104
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.289
And so have you considered, because I'd find a single duvet,
1105
00:46:10.690 --> 00:46:12.789
even if we both had single duvets, I'm thinking it
1106
00:46:12.829 --> 00:46:13.610
might be a bit small.
1107
00:46:13.630 --> 00:46:17.500
Have you considered two bigger duvets? Have you ever slept
1108
00:46:17.539 --> 00:46:19.260
with a double duvet on a single bed?
1109
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.639
You get swamped. It's overwhelming. It's like being in a
1110
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:22.579
ball pit. It is.
1111
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:25.000
You can't put your leg out to cool off. There'll
1112
00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:28.070
be so much duvet there. You'd get lost underneath them.
1113
00:46:28.269 --> 00:46:31.969
You need something in between, though, don't you? The single's
1114
00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:33.570
not quite enough for yourself.
1115
00:46:33.610 --> 00:46:35.710
Yeah, for me, I think I need a duvet and
1116
00:46:35.730 --> 00:46:36.190
a half.
1117
00:46:36.230 --> 00:46:37.989
Do you know how Josh sleeps, Jack?
1118
00:46:38.460 --> 00:46:39.139
How does he sleep?
1119
00:46:39.579 --> 00:46:41.800
Well, he shares a duvet with his wife, but then
1120
00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:44.539
he gets the corner of the duvet, covers it all
1121
00:46:44.619 --> 00:46:45.320
over his head.
1122
00:46:45.340 --> 00:46:47.079
I sleep with my head under the duvet. Yeah, the
1123
00:46:47.099 --> 00:46:50.530
only thing that's popping out is his nose. Really? Yeah.
1124
00:46:51.750 --> 00:46:54.809
Why is that? Was it a trauma or something? I
1125
00:46:54.849 --> 00:46:57.829
don't know, Jack. Your guess is as good as mine.
1126
00:46:58.730 --> 00:47:02.639
I find it cozy and it sends me right off
1127
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:05.760
to sleep. I find myself protected. I'm just under there
1128
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:09.559
in my own little cocoon. And one of the consequences
1129
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.780
is I can't wear woolly hats or beanies because it
1130
00:47:12.820 --> 00:47:15.260
makes my ears hot, which makes me associate with sleep
1131
00:47:15.300 --> 00:47:15.920
and go to sleep.
1132
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:19.030
How extraordinary is that? There's a lot going on there,
1133
00:47:19.050 --> 00:47:21.289
isn't there, Jack? There is a lot. That's a whole
1134
00:47:21.329 --> 00:47:23.079
podcast in itself, that is. I mean.
1135
00:47:23.610 --> 00:47:25.889
Do your children sleep a bit like that, Josh? Do
1136
00:47:25.929 --> 00:47:27.469
they have the same habits?
1137
00:47:27.530 --> 00:47:31.230
My daughter doesn't, but my son has started playing a
1138
00:47:31.329 --> 00:47:34.849
game where we're waiting for Father Christmas. He's three, so
1139
00:47:34.869 --> 00:47:38.340
we're waiting for Father Christmas to come, and we both
1140
00:47:38.420 --> 00:47:41.599
go totally under the duvet at his behest.
1141
00:47:42.019 --> 00:47:43.860
I see, right. So I don't know.
1142
00:47:44.179 --> 00:47:46.840
That one's still up for grabs either way, but my
1143
00:47:46.900 --> 00:47:48.119
daughter doesn't sleep like that.
1144
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:48.639
Okay.
1145
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.300
She sleeps the opposite with a fan on. Oh, right.
1146
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.230
A bit like Wayne Rooney sleeps with a hoover on.
1147
00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:57.309
Do you know Wayne Rooney sleeps with a hairdryer on
1148
00:47:57.329 --> 00:47:57.610
in his face?
1149
00:47:57.630 --> 00:47:58.309
Oh, is it a hairdryer?
1150
00:47:58.329 --> 00:47:58.570
Sorry.
1151
00:47:58.849 --> 00:47:59.610
Why? Why?
1152
00:47:59.650 --> 00:48:01.409
Does it distract him?
1153
00:48:01.869 --> 00:48:02.269
I don't know.
1154
00:48:02.289 --> 00:48:03.949
The noise. It's the white noise, isn't it?
1155
00:48:03.949 --> 00:48:06.030
And it caught fire once because he normally has it
1156
00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:07.590
on cool setting, but he put it on the hot
1157
00:48:07.659 --> 00:48:09.960
setting and it caught fire because he has the hairdryer
1158
00:48:10.019 --> 00:48:11.699
on laying on the bed face to his face.
1159
00:48:11.900 --> 00:48:12.500
Oh, my word.
1160
00:48:13.489 --> 00:48:16.230
Why did we appoint him? Yeah, that's a very strange
1161
00:48:16.250 --> 00:48:18.230
thing to do. It's probably a bit like that. Now
1162
00:48:18.250 --> 00:48:20.820
you see people going around with prams and they've got
1163
00:48:20.860 --> 00:48:23.880
those egg-shaped things that make a white noise.
1164
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:26.940
Oh, for the baby? Yeah, obviously for the baby, yeah.
1165
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:27.019
Ha!
1166
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:31.400
It's meant to replicate the noise of the womb.
1167
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.539
Have you seen them? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah,
1168
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:34.659
I do.
1169
00:48:34.659 --> 00:48:36.400
We had a sheep that we put in the cot
1170
00:48:36.460 --> 00:48:38.000
that makes an oil. You and the sheep.
1171
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:39.099
You and the sheep. Oh, okay.
1172
00:48:39.139 --> 00:48:41.280
But you've got to get to a point where you go, look,
1173
00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:42.590
you've got to get over it. You're not in the
1174
00:48:42.610 --> 00:48:43.260
womb anymore.
1175
00:48:43.510 --> 00:48:45.969
Yeah, exactly. You've been born. Get on with it.
1176
00:48:46.010 --> 00:48:46.829
Get up.
1177
00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:47.389
You're out.
1178
00:48:48.730 --> 00:48:49.360
Grow up.
1179
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:53.300
Yeah.
1180
00:48:53.460 --> 00:48:55.900
But then I also remember how desperate you are for
1181
00:48:55.940 --> 00:48:56.739
your child to sleep.
1182
00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:58.460
You do anything. You do anything at that point.
1183
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:00.300
You can't wait for them to be born, and then
1184
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:01.980
they're born, you can't wait for them to go to sleep.
1185
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.739
Can I ask a dog question, Jack? By all means.
1186
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.800
So you've got a little chihuahua, is that correct? Yeah,
1187
00:49:07.989 --> 00:49:12.550
that's right, yeah. So what's your view on dogs in prams? Oh, okay.
1188
00:49:12.570 --> 00:49:14.050
Because you've got the kind of dog you could put
1189
00:49:14.070 --> 00:49:15.849
in a buggy. Yes, I have, yeah.
1190
00:49:16.190 --> 00:49:18.599
We have this thing, a backpack, uh for when we
1191
00:49:18.619 --> 00:49:21.780
go on on longish walks in the country so that
1192
00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:24.579
dolly can go into that and especially made for a
1193
00:49:24.619 --> 00:49:28.420
small dog And that works very well. But then Jane said,
1194
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.320
I know I'm going to get a little pram for her.
1195
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.670
And so Jane bought this pram on Amazon and put
1196
00:49:35.710 --> 00:49:38.690
Dolly in the pram. And I went out and I
1197
00:49:38.769 --> 00:49:41.440
said to her, you can't do this. I just can't
1198
00:49:41.500 --> 00:49:41.820
let you.
1199
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:42.730
I can't let you.
1200
00:49:43.179 --> 00:49:47.219
Become that person just yet it's not yet let's see
1201
00:49:47.980 --> 00:49:50.480
a she doesn't need to be in one really and
1202
00:49:50.500 --> 00:49:52.980
you certainly don't need to be pushing that around looking
1203
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.820
looking like a just a nutter really but i also
1204
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.780
do know of dogs who benefit greatly because they're too
1205
00:49:59.820 --> 00:50:02.429
big to go on your back yeah and they still
1206
00:50:02.469 --> 00:50:04.630
like to get out and about so what's wrong with
1207
00:50:04.650 --> 00:50:06.570
putting them in a little buggy and pushing them around
1208
00:50:06.610 --> 00:50:08.889
it's just they can't walk anymore yeah well if they
1209
00:50:08.929 --> 00:50:11.750
get tired they're old dogs and stuff why not do
1210
00:50:11.789 --> 00:50:13.570
that you can get them out and about they can
1211
00:50:13.610 --> 00:50:15.489
get out and do their business and then jump back
1212
00:50:15.570 --> 00:50:18.510
in it's quite nice we i think we overlook how
1213
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.179
when dogs get older they they can struggle a bit
1214
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.599
without you realizing it what you're saying is you will
1215
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.280
eventually push that pram with a dog in eventually it'll
1216
00:50:26.300 --> 00:50:28.360
happen i just didn't want it to happen yet you
1217
00:50:28.380 --> 00:50:30.650
know what i mean that is i just that's how
1218
00:50:30.670 --> 00:50:32.710
my optician said you can have bifocals you know with
1219
00:50:32.769 --> 00:50:35.510
a stripe along the middle of the glasses yeah so
1220
00:50:35.530 --> 00:50:37.380
that's just i'm not i'm not ready for that yet
1221
00:50:37.659 --> 00:50:39.460
i know it would make sense but i can't.
1222
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:42.119
Do you know what i got advised jack by my
1223
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.820
optician was going bigger type on my.
1224
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:48.559
Phone, which was a real slam. Wow.
1225
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:49.989
Have you gone bigger type yet, Jack?
1226
00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:51.070
No, I haven't.
1227
00:50:52.190 --> 00:50:52.530
Good work.
1228
00:50:52.550 --> 00:50:55.510
Again, I'm a bit embarrassed to do that. It's pathetic,
1229
00:50:55.590 --> 00:50:58.210
I think, when someone's bigger type. I just think, do
1230
00:50:58.230 --> 00:51:01.329
you know what? Fucking head to Dignitas.
1231
00:51:02.050 --> 00:51:04.519
Let's believe the names, it's unfair, but the biggest type
1232
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I've ever seen.
1233
00:51:07.349 --> 00:51:10.719
I am talking two letters per screen really it was
1234
00:51:10.900 --> 00:51:13.659
fucking meant it was like you know when people like
1235
00:51:13.699 --> 00:51:16.539
put that right of like something on their phone that
1236
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:19.300
then scrolls along like free beer or whatever it is
1237
00:51:19.340 --> 00:51:21.380
like that it moved along like that she was trying
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00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:22.920
to do an email and i reckon i could have
1239
00:51:22.940 --> 00:51:24.920
read all of her email from a mile behind her.
1240
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.639
Wow wow yeah yeah jack i'm gonna uh steve wright
1241
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:33.039
rest in peace Your tour dates. I normally do this,
1242
00:51:33.340 --> 00:51:36.150
but the amount of tour dates you've got is, and
1243
00:51:36.630 --> 00:51:38.570
I'm going to say it, fucking insane.
1244
00:51:38.610 --> 00:51:38.989
It is.
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00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:42.650
I mean, I've never done, I haven't counted them, and
1246
00:51:42.690 --> 00:51:45.789
I've never thought, is there a point going through all
1247
00:51:45.829 --> 00:51:48.010
the difficult bit of getting an act together?
1248
00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:51.039
And then only doing 25 shows. I don't see the point.
1249
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:52.280
I totally agree.
1250
00:51:52.460 --> 00:51:54.460
If it's the only thing you're doing, you're only doing
1251
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:56.719
three or four a week, and then it's just all year,
1252
00:51:56.780 --> 00:51:58.320
and it's just called going to work.
1253
00:51:58.619 --> 00:51:59.119
It is, exactly.
1254
00:51:59.150 --> 00:52:00.690
I always get this when people go, you're doing so many.
1255
00:52:00.710 --> 00:52:02.570
I don't go, you're working at that company in an
1256
00:52:02.610 --> 00:52:04.230
office now. I'm going to go through your dates. You've
1257
00:52:04.250 --> 00:52:07.750
got fucking hell. Monday to Friday next week, London. Monday
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00:52:07.789 --> 00:52:09.260
to Friday the next week, London.
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Yeah.
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To be honest, I didn't mean it as a criticism
1261
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because I've got loads and I have this same conversation.
1262
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.989
Rob's got loads. But when you're reading the map, so
1263
00:52:18.030 --> 00:52:19.730
you can count them as you go, Jack. I'm going
1264
00:52:19.750 --> 00:52:22.530
to run through. Go and see Jack Deeks. He's incredible.
1265
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In Exeter, Northampton, Leicester, Canterbury, Basingstoke on Valentine's Day, sold out.
1266
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You've missed three months.
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Yeah.
1268
00:52:30.179 --> 00:52:32.599
I know. Well, this is the website I'm on has
1269
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.719
just started on today. Eastbourne, Melbourne, Newtown, Lynette.
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Newtown is where Joe Norris is going to come and
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see you and you're going to die on your ass.
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Lynette Lee, Cardiff, Lowestoft, Ipswich, Ramsgate, Nottingham, Stevenage, Lincoln, Milton Keynes, Yeovil,
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Western Supermare, Bristol, Portsmouth, Birmingham, St. Albans, Douglas, Dunfermline, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Inverness, Dundee.
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Glasgow, Norwich, Brighton, Hastings. I'm bored listening to this. This
1275
00:52:57.730 --> 00:53:00.889
is freaking you out. There's more. You're only in June, Jack.
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Southampton, Dunstall, Buxton, Leeds, Blackpool, Durham, Chesterfield, Peterborough, Kings Lynn, Bromley, Southend, Swindon,
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Isle of Wight, Chatham, Cambridge, High Wycombe, Aylesbury, London, Wolverhampton, Stockport, Newcastle, Harrogate, Chester, Coventry, York, Liverpool, Belfast, Dublin, Salford, Shrewsbury, Crewe, Woking, Croydon,
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Oxford and.
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finishing with the big one, Shrewsbury. Yeah. How big's this wedding? Yeah,
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it's going to be a nice one, I think.
1281
00:53:32.889 --> 00:53:36.719
But as you really say, you know, it's what we do.
1282
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.199
It's not like I'm just fitting it in between jobs
1283
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or something. It's what I do. I never even look really.
1284
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:44.340
And I'll be adding more next year. I think, I
1285
00:53:44.380 --> 00:53:44.940
hope I will.
1286
00:53:45.510 --> 00:53:45.719
Yeah.
1287
00:53:45.780 --> 00:53:48.210
Because you've got three more kids. Yeah, exactly.
1288
00:53:48.289 --> 00:53:51.090
Got more weddings to deal with and do the middle East.
1289
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I was going to go and do Australia, New Zealand
1290
00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:55.039
this year, but I couldn't fit it in and hopefully
1291
00:53:55.059 --> 00:53:55.820
do that next year.
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00:53:55.980 --> 00:53:58.940
So it's great. I just think I've worked and obviously
1293
00:53:58.960 --> 00:53:59.380
you have as well.
1294
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.360
You work to get to a position where you can
1295
00:54:01.389 --> 00:54:03.789
just go around and fill a theater and then you
1296
00:54:03.809 --> 00:54:05.519
can turn up and do whatever you want in it.
1297
00:54:05.530 --> 00:54:08.449
And you've earned a couple of quid and then done
1298
00:54:08.469 --> 00:54:10.610
your jokes and got the buzz out of doing them.
1299
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And then you go home. That's the point of all
1300
00:54:13.110 --> 00:54:15.510
the other work. Exactly. Everyone has a job.
1301
00:54:15.989 --> 00:54:18.820
We're so lucky that people are generally very nice to
1302
00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:22.420
us about what we do. It'd be unusual for someone
1303
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:23.809
to go up to a cashier and say, do you
1304
00:54:23.829 --> 00:54:25.630
know what? You've done a really great job. Thank you
1305
00:54:25.650 --> 00:54:28.050
for helping me with my shopping today. It doesn't happen
1306
00:54:28.090 --> 00:54:31.219
like that. And we get lots of praise for I
1307
00:54:31.260 --> 00:54:34.090
just think comedians who complain about their job should just
1308
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be whipped or something.
1309
00:54:35.349 --> 00:54:38.750
Just fully in favor of that whipping.
1310
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But I think also as well, though, like we all
1311
00:54:41.409 --> 00:54:43.469
love doing standup was there's lots of people that do
1312
00:54:43.530 --> 00:54:46.329
stand up because they don't mind it, but there is
1313
00:54:46.349 --> 00:54:49.139
a differentiation. There's some people that do it because, Oh yeah,
1314
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:50.940
I probably should do a tour. And then like, I
1315
00:54:50.980 --> 00:54:51.900
would be doing it anyway.
1316
00:54:52.340 --> 00:54:52.800
You know what I mean?
1317
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To go into like the mic spots and stuff. It's
1318
00:54:55.019 --> 00:54:56.820
exactly what I would always want to do. I'd always
1319
00:54:56.860 --> 00:54:58.719
want to have a go at it. And yeah, yes
1320
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.780
you're right there are some people who who do it
1321
00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:03.000
because they feel they ought to and be seen and
1322
00:55:03.260 --> 00:55:04.239
get other stuff out of.
1323
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:06.449
It how do you deal with it though when like
1324
00:55:06.489 --> 00:55:07.929
do you ever get to a point now because you're
1325
00:55:07.969 --> 00:55:09.630
so experienced and you're so good i don't play spunky
1326
00:55:09.670 --> 00:55:11.630
rough but you're so good and a hero of mine
1327
00:55:11.650 --> 00:55:13.409
and josh's i'd like.
1328
00:55:13.230 --> 00:55:19.789
To speak for myself on that i respect him.
1329
00:55:22.989 --> 00:55:27.329
I respect what he does. For his era, he was solid. Oh,
1330
00:55:27.369 --> 00:55:29.409
it's like that, isn't it?
1331
00:55:29.429 --> 00:55:31.260
The messy Maradona. What an epitaph.
1332
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:32.880
Do you get to a point where you can't be
1333
00:55:32.940 --> 00:55:35.079
bothered when you've been in the middle of a long
1334
00:55:35.099 --> 00:55:36.599
tour or is it always exciting?
1335
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:37.860
Or how do you get up for it when you
1336
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:39.480
feel a bit forlorn?
1337
00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:43.039
I think I rely on that moment when it's, you know,
1338
00:55:43.079 --> 00:55:44.940
you've got five minutes and then you're going to be on.
1339
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.550
I rely on getting into the zone and I very
1340
00:55:48.610 --> 00:55:53.139
often will sort of kickstart myself with thinking of something
1341
00:55:53.219 --> 00:55:56.059
I'm going to open with other than my usual line
1342
00:55:56.820 --> 00:55:58.559
or a line that I'm going to put in. I
1343
00:55:58.579 --> 00:55:59.579
know what I'm going to put. I'm going to do
1344
00:55:59.619 --> 00:56:02.730
this instead of that tonight. And that gives me that
1345
00:56:02.809 --> 00:56:05.789
sort of tension that is so useful, isn't it? Because
1346
00:56:05.809 --> 00:56:08.710
there's no doubt once you're on show number 65 or something,
1347
00:56:08.750 --> 00:56:12.510
you're not as nervous and your performance can sometimes miss that.
1348
00:56:12.550 --> 00:56:14.710
It needs that energy, doesn't it? It does need the energy.
1349
00:56:14.730 --> 00:56:16.980
You need to feel it every time you step on stage.
1350
00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:20.099
It's a mistake if you don't. People say, well, what's
1351
00:56:20.139 --> 00:56:21.900
it like if you die on stage or something? Well,
1352
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.199
it's not about that, really. It's about whether you die
1353
00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:27.530
inside when you're on stage, and that's the most painful thing.
1354
00:56:27.769 --> 00:56:30.210
Even the audience could be laughing, and you're just thinking,
1355
00:56:30.230 --> 00:56:32.530
I'm phoning this in, I'm not having a good time,
1356
00:56:32.590 --> 00:56:34.309
and I should be doing more than this.
1357
00:56:34.809 --> 00:56:36.070
And if you're not a little bit nervous and you
1358
00:56:36.110 --> 00:56:38.630
don't really care, because there's plenty of jobs I've done
1359
00:56:38.670 --> 00:56:40.679
where I'm no nerves at all because I don't give
1360
00:56:40.699 --> 00:56:43.000
a shit. But to have that little excitement in your
1361
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.820
belly means, oh, actually, I care about this and want
1362
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:45.400
it to go well.
1363
00:56:45.780 --> 00:56:48.510
Exactly. You're not down the pub with your friends. It's
1364
00:56:48.780 --> 00:56:51.230
just people who've paid to see you at your best.
1365
00:56:51.429 --> 00:56:53.489
And that's what you've got to remember. And that's what
1366
00:56:53.510 --> 00:56:54.969
you need to get yourself in the frame for.
1367
00:56:55.449 --> 00:56:55.829
Exactly.
1368
00:56:55.849 --> 00:56:58.530
You're not just chatting away any odd shit on a podcast.
1369
00:56:58.969 --> 00:57:03.590
LAUGHTER This has got to actually be good.
1370
00:57:03.750 --> 00:57:06.570
Yeah, exactly. It's got to be fruitful and clever, but yeah.
1371
00:57:06.590 --> 00:57:09.110
Are you practising being sincere in it at all for
1372
00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:10.969
the wedding or are you doing that in your private time?
1373
00:57:10.989 --> 00:57:13.150
You're not doing that on stage? I'm going to have tutoring,
1374
00:57:13.230 --> 00:57:15.110
I think, on that one. Like when people have a
1375
00:57:15.130 --> 00:57:19.530
wedding dance tutor. Keep supporting live comedy. Just say that
1376
00:57:19.550 --> 00:57:21.409
at the end and that'll be your sincere message. LAUGHTER
1377
00:57:23.340 --> 00:57:24.199
It's a great club.
1378
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:27.019
Come out and support it because they have some great
1379
00:57:27.059 --> 00:57:29.340
people down here at this village hall.
1380
00:57:29.500 --> 00:57:31.119
I think I'll do the wedding on a bit like
1381
00:57:31.139 --> 00:57:33.340
the free fringe, you see. So I'll do 20 minutes
1382
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:36.059
and then people can donate whatever they think is appropriate.
1383
00:57:39.300 --> 00:57:41.000
See if I'll pay for some of the beer yeah
1384
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:44.300
it's quite expensive to come up here to you know
1385
00:57:44.340 --> 00:57:46.690
we've got accommodation we've got everyone's paid for a.
1386
00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:48.949
Meal it's dangerous out there because if you're really shit
1387
00:57:48.969 --> 00:57:50.429
if they pay what they think it's worth they might
1388
00:57:50.449 --> 00:57:53.369
take a fiver out of the bucket actually I think I.
1389
00:57:53.349 --> 00:57:56.610
Deserve yeah wouldn't be the first time Jack it's been
1390
00:57:56.630 --> 00:57:59.550
a joy what is your tour called? it's called Snow
1391
00:57:59.590 --> 00:58:02.539
World come on it's at the bottom Small World World
1392
00:58:02.579 --> 00:58:04.969
Tour 2025. Join the newsletter for tour updates.
1393
00:58:05.530 --> 00:58:05.769
Yeah.
1394
00:58:05.809 --> 00:58:07.889
Rob's here. I'm going to sign him up right now. Yeah,
1395
00:58:07.929 --> 00:58:08.309
do that.
1396
00:58:08.329 --> 00:58:08.849
Sign me all up.
1397
00:58:09.369 --> 00:58:11.619
And which of those dates are you least looking forward to?
1398
00:58:12.659 --> 00:58:14.840
Well i don't think there's anyone i'm not looking forward
1399
00:58:14.860 --> 00:58:16.829
to i've actually had a good time because there's been
1400
00:58:16.849 --> 00:58:20.250
towns i've gone back to this year already that i
1401
00:58:20.469 --> 00:58:23.610
previously thought i'm never going back there but actually it's
1402
00:58:23.650 --> 00:58:24.650
always been because i.
1403
00:58:24.630 --> 00:58:27.409
Didn't like the venue you know you change venue and
1404
00:58:27.429 --> 00:58:29.750
it's not the town at all sometimes it really is just.
1405
00:58:29.610 --> 00:58:32.090
The venue oh a million percent i'm very loath to
1406
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:34.679
blame the audience ever i always think it's something i
1407
00:58:34.699 --> 00:58:36.159
could have done different that would have made that better
1408
00:58:36.179 --> 00:58:37.719
and the day of the week makes a difference to
1409
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:39.579
a town it can make a difference it It's like
1410
00:58:39.659 --> 00:58:42.000
a Tuesday night. Yeah, I'm looking forward to tonight's gig
1411
00:58:42.059 --> 00:58:44.429
in Exeter, as you can imagine. It's a Monday today.
1412
00:58:45.469 --> 00:58:48.050
It'll be great. If people are up for it and
1413
00:58:48.070 --> 00:58:50.449
have bought tickets to come out, I'm confident.
1414
00:58:50.090 --> 00:58:51.630
They'll be good. Yeah, no, definitely.
1415
00:58:51.670 --> 00:58:54.800
And if you are listening and you're into kind of spreadsheets,
1416
00:58:55.420 --> 00:58:58.820
plot Jack's tour dates now with his previous tours and
1417
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:02.119
see which venues he's changed within the same city to
1418
00:59:02.139 --> 00:59:04.320
see which venues he thought was a bad gig.
1419
00:59:04.369 --> 00:59:04.929
Your challenge.
1420
00:59:04.949 --> 00:59:07.150
There's definitely a couple of venues I'm like, that's definitely
1421
00:59:07.230 --> 00:59:08.210
a smaller room.
1422
00:59:08.429 --> 00:59:11.219
And Jack could have sold that bigger room. You won't
1423
00:59:11.260 --> 00:59:13.079
need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.
1424
00:59:13.219 --> 00:59:15.519
I like the princess theatre in talking. I don't know
1425
00:59:15.539 --> 00:59:19.389
what your problem is. I also like that one. I've
1426
00:59:19.409 --> 00:59:22.440
got to say, it wasn't that, but Jack is always
1427
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.400
a pleasure. Good to see you. Good to speak to
1428
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:24.739
you both.
1429
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:26.619
I would quite like to have said it's a pleasure
1430
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:28.179
for you as well, but that's fine.
1431
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.349
It's good to see you as well. Cheers, Jack. Thanks
1432
00:59:30.369 --> 00:59:31.570
so much. All right.
1433
00:59:31.610 --> 00:59:31.889
See you.
1434
00:59:31.909 --> 00:59:32.190
Bye.
1435
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:34.699
Jack D.
1436
00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:38.039
Love Jack D. He's a wonderful man. Did I go
1437
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:40.289
in too hard? That's when you're familiar with someone, isn't it?
1438
00:59:40.510 --> 00:59:42.329
You didn't go in too hard. I love Jack. I
1439
00:59:42.369 --> 00:59:43.989
look up to Jack. I respect Jack.
1440
00:59:44.789 --> 00:59:47.019
Mentor's not the right word, but he's someone I look
1441
00:59:47.099 --> 00:59:50.360
at their career and the way they've operated. Similar to
1442
00:59:50.380 --> 00:59:52.860
like Jonathan Ross as well, where I go, oh, that's
1443
00:59:52.900 --> 00:59:55.690
how I'd like to operate my career.
1444
00:59:55.949 --> 00:59:58.730
You'll be canceled way before the point jacks out now though, Rob.
1445
00:59:59.289 --> 01:00:01.250
Well, my plan is to, at the end of this tour,
1446
01:00:01.650 --> 01:00:05.460
which finishes next year, sort of early 2026, have a
1447
01:00:05.900 --> 01:00:08.559
long break from standup because my children.
1448
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:10.900
Will be, Too embarrassed by your sets. No, there'll be
1449
01:00:10.900 --> 01:00:12.539
10 and 8. Sorry, I've got that all wrong.
1450
01:00:12.579 --> 01:00:14.090
And then if I have five years off, then by
1451
01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:15.690
the time they're bored of me, when they're teenagers, I
1452
01:00:15.690 --> 01:00:16.489
can go back on tour again.
1453
01:00:16.690 --> 01:00:16.889
Yeah.
1454
01:00:17.110 --> 01:00:18.809
I'm going to do a Jack D, Gabrielle. Shall I
1455
01:00:18.849 --> 01:00:20.090
run you through the dates one more time, Rob?
1456
01:00:20.349 --> 01:00:21.030
Yeah, if you have to.
1457
01:00:21.250 --> 01:00:22.030
Thanks for listening, guys.
1458
01:00:22.090 --> 01:00:26.869
Exit at Corn Exchange, Northampton, Leicester, Canterbury, Basingstoke, Eastbourne. People
1459
01:00:26.889 --> 01:00:29.210
know how to use the internet. I'm going to go.
1460
01:00:29.230 --> 01:00:29.710
Bye, guys.
1461
01:00:38.849 --> 01:00:40.250
Hi, this is Chris McCausland.
1462
01:00:40.429 --> 01:00:42.039
And this is Diane Boswell.
1463
01:00:42.380 --> 01:00:44.559
And we've got a new podcast, haven't we, Di?
1464
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:45.659
We do.
1465
01:00:45.739 --> 01:00:46.420
What's it called?
1466
01:00:47.059 --> 01:00:47.800
Winning.
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Isn't... Everything.
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Every week, me and Diane, we're going to be having
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a little catch-up on the back of Strictly, aren't we, Di?
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We are.
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I've missed you, Chris.
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I've missed you too.
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We're going to talk some nonsense, so why not tune in?
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