S10 EP6: Stacey Dooley

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and
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I discuss what it's really like to be a parent.
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Which I would say can be a little tricky.
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So, to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about
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the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week
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we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.
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Or hopefully how they're not coping.
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And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with
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your tips, advice, and of course, tales of parenting woe.
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Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when
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none of us know what we're doing.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... Can you say
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Josh Widdicombe? Josh Widdicombe.
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Very good, baby. And can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett.
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Nice one.
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Nice one.
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Say bye-bye.
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Bye-bye.
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Bye-bye from Arabella. I don't want to say bye-bye.
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Bye. There we go. She's cute. The mum went pure
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mum mode. That was pure mum mode. Good baby. That
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was Clara, the mum.
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This is our 23-month-old daughter, Arabella, and we live in
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Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire. Sorry about the OTT parenting voice.
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She's aware of it, Rob.
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Oh, no, we all do it. There's no shade there.
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As you can see, we have a little chatterbox on
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our hands. She's been talking in full sentences for the
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last six months, which you probably can imagine is a
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blessing and a curse. I absolutely love the podcast. Looked
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forward to my alone time during the week to catch up.
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Keep doing what you're doing. Lots of love from Hebden Bridge.
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How are you, Josh? I'm very good. I'm fine. We've
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got lots to discuss, as ever, apparently. You've promised us
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a story about your hamster update. Hamster. Oh, yeah. Mate,
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I had a lovely weekend. Huge weekend.
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I'm trying to remember it all, actually. Saturday, Lou was
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going to the theatre in the evening to watch Rami Malek.
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Is it Rami, Rami, Rami? Rami Malek.
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Rami.
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Rami.
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In the one about the Greek geezer that shags his mum? Oedipus.
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Yeah.
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I was going to say Shirley Valentine, but I've got
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that all wrong. So, yeah, she went and saw that.
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You didn't want to go with her?
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The only thing that could attempt it was a 7.30pm star,
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hour and a half straight through, no interval.
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Oh, my word.
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Maybe I could incorporate that into my 258 tour. You're
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in Oaxaca by 9.05.
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My 258 tour, hour and a half straight through, no break.
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Yeah, I reckon the theatre. Well, I was going to
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say the theatre would want a break, but then the
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theatre is getting three shows in a day.
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Oh, I'm the theatre's golden goose. Right, weekend. Let's talk
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about the weekend. So Lou went and saw that. So
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she was going out and she took the dogs for
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a walk.
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I took the girls to their clubs, then took them
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to lunch. We had some lunch at the CAF. Then
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we went to the opticians because they needed some new
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glasses because they'd broke their glasses.
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It was so funny.
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My daughter would come back with her glasses. They were
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the most broke glasses. If you were doing a comedy
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sketch about broken glasses, you'd go, no, that's too much.
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No glasses.
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Basically, they were still on her nose, but both arms
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had gone out sideways and they were still back. They'd
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fallen off her face and then her friend trod on
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them by accident. So we went and got some of
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them done. I got my sunglasses tightened up.
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We did that. Then I tried to get some Indian
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rupees because I'm off to India. Can't do it. Restricted currency. Oh.
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Can only get your rupees in India.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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So I needed rupees because everything in India is cash.
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It's hard to pay with card. So normally if I'm
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in America, I'll just use my cards and I don't
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really get local currency out.
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So I was doing that. Then they saw a guy
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on Heelys and went, can we get Heelys? Can we
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get Heelys? I just thought, you know what, fuck it, yeah.
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Why not? Yeah, fuck it. We had some Heelys. They're
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like the shoes with the little roller skates on the heel.
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Yeah, roller skates on the heel. And I just thought,
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getting a Heely would be like getting a skewer. We
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went into a sports shop and they were like, they
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were reduced to like 25 quid. And I thought, you
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know what, it's a lovely day today. We're going to
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go in the garden this afternoon. Let's get the Heelys
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going in the garden. Got these Heelys.
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They are so... Can you do them on grass? Danger. No,
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they are deadly. It is. Imagine an inline skate, but
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only half your foot. Yeah.
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And surely by doing them, you're putting your weight backwards.
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So you automatically lean like that.
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Yeah, you're automatically leaning back.
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Well, with just normal roller skates, obviously there's four, so
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you're already sort of fairly safe.
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They were like, how do I do these? I was like,
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I don't know. I don't know.
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So then I was just pulling them along with this
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and they're flying all over the place, scratching their knees
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with their helmets on. So I was doing Heelys, which is, yeah,
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if anyone knows how to do Heelys, I mean, I'll
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probably have to watch a YouTube thing, but.
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They're getting better at them. So we did Heelys and
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then we went to hamster shop. The pet shop. I
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thought now the last time we talked about this. Yeah.
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It was a birthday present in December or November or
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whenever it is. And if you're going to put a
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deposit down on a hamster, a whole year.
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Of its life you're losing. It's only going to live
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a few years. So basically, we tried to put it off.
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And go, do you know what? She's probably going to
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forget about it. She has not forgot about it. It
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doesn't seem like it worked in the way that you
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last reported. So we thought, get it for your birthday,
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thinking she'd forget and move on, like she has with
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goats and leopard gecko, right?
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Yeah. She has not. She, I'd say, researches hamsters... Every day.
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Whenever she's allowed on an iPad or a Chromebook. To
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the point she's actually got a notebook where she's writing
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it down. So when she's out and about, she's got
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it with her so she can tell people about it.
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Size of cage, food they eat, don't put them together.
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So I was like, right, why don't we bring this
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forward and... But how can we bring this forward rather
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than just getting something earlier? So what we said is
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she can have a hamster when she's got enough money
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to buy a hamster.
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How much is a hamster? So these hamsters were getting £ 35. Right.
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I'd say if you go to a local pet shop
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and speak to them, they'll either do it or know
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someone that can get hamsters that are bred within the shop.
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Yeah. bred for mass market.
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Because if they're bred for the mass market, what happens
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is they don't have much space in their living conditions
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and they're not held. So we've done some research and
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found this place where they're super, super friendly and tame
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and also bigger because they're fed better, they're looked after better.
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And so every hamster is picked up and held and
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played with Not just played with, but they have to
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check it over to see if it's had enough milk.
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They're used to being held from a very young age,
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which means they're very confident, happy, and healthy. You're getting
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a healthier, happier hamster in a much more ethical, moral way.
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I think the money's well spent. It's about 35 quid,
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I think, for the hamster.
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She's put a deposit down on it. Then she's got
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to save up for the cage and all the food.
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She needs probably about 150, 100 quid. maybe to get
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all this stuff. So she's doing chores. So she's got
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the tooth fairy coming when her tooth fills out. She
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needs a lot of fucking teeth to go to 115 quid.
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She's only seven. She's been unloading the dishwasher. She's been hoovering.
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I even said for a laugh, she can do the
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dog poo in the garden. She wants, she was out
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there picking up dog shit.
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Oh my God. And I was like, She was struggling
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to tie the knot. I went, you know what? Don't
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do the dog shit. Yeah.
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Yeah, there's no need for that. So she's been doing
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all the chores. So we went to look at the
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hamsters because you have to put your name down on
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a waiting list.
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Oh, my God. Because they're quite sought after. Fucking driving tests.
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And they're only available... Forced them, bro. Oh, no.
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They're only available when they don't force them to mate.
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So they're only ready when they're ready. You go on
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a waiting list. She said she can guesstimate around six weeks,
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which is perfect for us. Falls over Easter holidays. So
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it gives us something to look forward to. And it
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gives time for my daughter to save the money.
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But Josh.
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Because these hamsters are sort of raised in a much
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more ethical way, they are the biggest fucking hamsters I
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have ever seen. I'll forward you the stuff. They are
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absolute whoppers because of the size of that hamster. It
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looks like a guinea pig.
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Fucking Nora. See it? Yeah. And so that's not the
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one she's getting? No. So that is one of the mums.
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Good new glasses. Thank you.
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She'll be getting one of those babies that are in
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there when they're happy, healthy and ready to be moved
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on in six weeks.
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Oh, that is nice.
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So I would say I was quite naive to hamsters.
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Because I was the traditional get this sort of more
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mass market bred one. But actually, if you do a
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bit of research, you can pay a little bit more.
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But not only are you getting a more ethical hamster,
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you're getting one that your children will be able to enjoy.
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But also, from.
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Pure bang for your buck money, Rob, if you just
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want to take it as an economics decision, you're.
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Probably getting more years. Well, they actually do live longer.
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They live more three years than they.
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Do two years. Oh, Rob, the passing of time. Okay,
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here we go.
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This has gone deep early.
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Oh God, I hate it. The other night I got back.
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Do not go and see Bridget Jones or watch Paradise.
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Oh no.
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Not even death, but like the thought of my kids
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growing up is really tough.
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So what's tough about it?
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I was talking to someone who's got teenagers who are,
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you know, who are teenagers.
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Let's put it that way. Right. Not interested as they were. Yeah.
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And then I was talking to someone on Saturday about
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it as well because it was playing on my mind.
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And he's got a teenager who's a teenager. And I
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was like, fucking hell. Fucking hell. I'm going to really
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struggle with it. I can deal with the not interested
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because I go, that is what it is.
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And they come back round. When they're older, they'll come
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back round. Yeah, and I can deal with that.
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It's the worry about them being places or being online
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in certain things.
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I'm not looking forward to that at all.
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Yeah, but that's because what you're worrying about is you're
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worried about a situation in the future that doesn't exist
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with a child that you know now.
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I know, but... Your daughter will be... No, yeah, I know.
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I was just talking to someone who's a kid and
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I thought, fucking Nora.
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What they're up to? Yeah.
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So what I'd say is that, yeah, but that's their child.
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But your daughter will be old enough and intelligent enough
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and sort of wise enough to make the right decisions
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when she is doing that at that age.
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I know, I know. It's still going to be difficult though,
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isn't it?
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So the thought of my daughter going to this two-night-away
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trip thing was panicking me. But then I was like, no,
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I'm not actually. I'm panicking because of the narrative of, oh,
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you should worry.
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But what if your daughter is 15? This isn't what's
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happening to them. you know, and goes to an all-night rave.
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Well, I always look at future Rob will be able
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to deal with that situation when it happens.
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But that's the only way I can cope with it.
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Because at the moment, if I said that, the thought,
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because I can't imagine my seven-year-old child at 15 at
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that rave doing those things, right? It's incomprehensible to me.
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So it's no point thinking about it because that child
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doesn't exist yet.
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Yeah, that's the right way to approach it.
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But it's impossible not to fall into it. Yeah, absolutely.
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But that's the, that's the challenge, isn't it? Yeah.
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And same way as I was really nervous about doing
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a tour show the other day, cause I hadn't done
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it for a few weeks. I know that as soon
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as I step on stage and start talking, the show
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comes back to me and it's better for it because
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I'm refreshed and I'm not bored of it. And I'm not,
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not honestly reading out a monologue. I have my bullet
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point ideas of jokes. And then when I'm there, I
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adapt it and deliver it to whatever that room needs.
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So I just have to shut my brain off and go,
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I could think about this all day and night until
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the gig.
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None of it will help.
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But I know future Rob will be able to deal
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with that. So let's not worry about it because all
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I need is now, Rob. Stacey Dooley, welcome to the podcast.
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Thank you ever so much.
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Apologies from me and Josh. Josh's laptop completely shut down
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and went missing. You came on, you've got your coffee,
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you're ready to go, you've sorted childcare, your two-year-old daughter's
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downstairs with the mum. Then we started chatting and my
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builder rang because I've still got a leak coming from
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the ceiling and we're all over the place. They're going
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to cut holes in the walls and the roof, but
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it's not about us today, Stacey, it's about you. So
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sorry for the delay.
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Can I say, I am so invested. Listen, I'm doing
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the house up. I bought this really beautiful house, but
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it's so old. It's on its last legs. So this
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is actually an interesting chat for me.
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Oh, Stacey. Let me tell you why my laptop died then.
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No, please do, because that sounds really interesting as well.
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Because we're having our house done up.
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Oh.
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Still. I thought yours is done.
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Well, we're just doing like the little things, Rob.
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Josh has had a bloke at his house called Adrian
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for about two years, Stacey.
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Yeah, he's great. If you need someone, Stacey.
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Well, if I'm up north now, aren't I? Oh, yeah.
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But listen to this. If you want to put a
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light on the wall, you have to take the floorboards up.
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That's what I've learned. Yep. I had this painter called Neil.
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He was really rock and roll.
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I loved him.
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I sort of fell slightly in love with him. And
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he would sort of disappear on the Thursday and then
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reappear on the Tuesday. I think he just had like
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some really hedonistic sort of long, stretched out weekend. But
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I didn't have it in me to sort of have
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the ump.
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It is hard, isn't it?
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Because if someone's done the job, you don't want to
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get someone else in to do the job because they
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always just go, this is rubbish. I've got to redo
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it all. So you're better off waiting for Neil to
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come back.
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Correct. Or if you're Josh, just lock Adrian in the basement.
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So it wasn't Adrian this morning.
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So we're having our, just the last, we had the
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carpet put on the stairs in the hallway that needs
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staining because it's wood.
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So Rose is like, the guy's coming to stain the
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floors Monday morning. Fine.
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I'm upstairs. He's got to do my office. I said,
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just don't do that on Monday.
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That's fine.
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Fine.
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Quarter past nine this morning. I'm like, what the fuck
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is that sound? And he's got basically an industrial sander.
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Yeah, of course. You can't sand it. You can't stain
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about sand. I hadn't thought about it, Rob. So I'm like,
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what the fuck am I going to do? I'm like,
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how long is this going to take? He's like, all morning.
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So I've got to get out of the house.
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So I've run to my agent's office doing school drop
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off on the way. And then I've grabbed my laptop
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because my laptop I never use my laptop, so when
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I plug it in, it's on 1% charge. It's charging,
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but it hasn't got enough to keep going throughout the
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Zoom call.
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Oh, even with the plug-in? Even with the plug-in.
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Oh, that's no battery, is it?
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What this illustrates is we all have our crosses to bear, guys.
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Exactly, exactly.
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Poor us well comedies change back in the day our
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agents wouldn't have their acts run into their office needing
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a laptop charger to do a podcast about parenting because
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their floors getting stained they'd have been out all night
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we'd have been like your builder mate nil crazy nil
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anyway stacy sorry apologies for the weird start but you've
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got one daughter called mini who's two correct That's right.
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That's exactly right.
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Nailed it.
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Yeah. She's downstairs with my mum. She's got a peach yoghurt.
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She's actually on good form this morning. You know when
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they wake up and you think, ooh, what way are
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we going to go? Yeah. She's a delight. She's a
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delight this morning. So, yeah, you have to celebrate the
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small wins, don't you?
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Did your mum help a lot then? You were saying that, like,
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you love seeing your mum coming around now, the baby.
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Yeah, no, she's really hands-on, actually, Rob. She wasn't on
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the scene, and I totally appreciate this isn't always the
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way for many people, but if she wasn't on the scene,
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I think I'd really struggle, work-wise. I'd be able to work, actually.
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Have you backed where your mum lives?
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Yeah, so my mum's from Liverpool. She lives about an
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hour away now, so we're north-west, and I love it.
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And I've sort of turned into that southerner. Every time
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I get back to Houston, I think, oh, too busy.
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Really?
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Be southerners, you don't miss it, do you? I'm all
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like that, I'm really annoying, but I'm so happy up here.
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But yeah, we made the move.
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And was that because of your mum?
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I mean, yeah, kind of a mixture of reasons, but
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primarily I think, yeah, she's our nanny. And I wanted
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the baby close to her nan, and that is a
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lovely relationship to nurture. So yeah, the pair of them,
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thick as thieves. I don't really exist when my mum's around. Nanny, nanny, nanny, nanny. Really?
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Oh, that's good, isn't it?
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Yeah, and I was really tight with my mum's mum,
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Crazy Hayes, they called her Hayes, or she was like
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a publican. And she had pubs, so we would live
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above the pub.
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Oh, amazing. So you lived with her above the pub?
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Yeah, sort of back and forth. But I have really
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beautiful memories of that relationship. So, yeah, I was saying
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to Rob, I spent my 20s dodging my mum. Wasn't asked,
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didn't want to even sort of have a cup of
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tea with her. And now I'm like, if she doesn't
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pick up the phone on the hour, every hour, I'm outraged.
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Oh, really?
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And so has your relationship with your mum really, like,
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strengthened through this?
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Yeah. No, I think you're right, Josh. It has completely changed.
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And again, it's so hard, isn't it, to talk about
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parenthood and not fall into cliches. But actually, when you
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become a mum, there's a sudden realisation of all the
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shit you must have put them through.
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Yeah.
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And the kind of unwavering, unconditional love. It's sort of ding, ding, ding. So, yeah,
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thank God for Di.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, who's hoping she's got at least another 30 years?
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That's the nicest thing you can say. How old is Di?
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If you've got older parents, it does, you know.
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63, 64.
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Oh, that's solid.
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Yeah, 20, 30 years.
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Yeah.
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So my dad's 81 now. They still look after the kids,
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but sometimes, are we going to drive them down there?
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I'm like, yeah, you're 81, mate. You don't need to
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drive them anywhere. No, just hide the car keys.
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You'll be all right.
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Why don't you stay in the house? You're 81.
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Stay in the house. Don't wait to take my children
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on the motorway. Stay in the house. You're 81.
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Can I hear more about Crazy Hayes? How are you
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spelling Crazy Hayes? H-A-Z. I guess.
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H-A-Z-E.
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I suppose you've never written it down, though. No.
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No, I've never written it down. It's absolutely true. Crazy Hazel.
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So Hazel, she was called. She was just golden, actually.
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Just a real scream. So as you would imagine, a
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really sort of outlandish, sort of outrageous landlady. They're like that,
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aren't they?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Everything's a performance. But I just remember, like, what went
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out on 38 next month? I remember sort of being five, six,
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seven years old, doing the fridges, putting the Oranginas the
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right way round.
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Amazing.
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I mean, I was eating pork scratchings at five. That's
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a serious poking hazard, and I'm probably going to.
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It's a nightmare.
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My arteries, God knows what state they're in now, but
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just lock-ins, I remember lock-ins until, you know, it's normal.
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Oh, amazing.
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When you talk about, like, the parents and the unwavering love,
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do you also now, you parent yourself, think, yeah, that
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was a great time, but I probably wouldn't let my
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five-year-old eat pork scratchings and do a stop-take?
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Listen, my mum and my nan always had a cig
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on the go. So, I mean, my arteries were a mess.
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My lungs were probably a mess. Like, always had a
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ciggy on the go. I ate pork scratchings. And do
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you remember them pies from the fish and chip shop?
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Pucker pies. Pucker pies. Pucker pies? Pucker pies, yeah.
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That was my diet. Half and half, like half chips,
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half rice with gravy. All of that, you know.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's carby, isn't it? Half chips, half
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rice at the chip shop?
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Yeah.
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Never heard of that. Surely it's the Chinese, isn't it?
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If it's doing rice.
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Yeah, but that was my fish and chip shop.
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Ah.
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Right.
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I've never heard of that. I think that might be
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a doody thing.
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Half and half.
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You must try, actually. I think you'd really love it.
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Half rice with gravy. Is this Luton?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, you too, Josh. Luton, yeah.
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Oh, you too. Half and half.
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Yeah.
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No, I've never had half and half. But I think
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that's a bit more of a northern thing, actually, the
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Chinese chippy, than down south.
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Maybe.
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Rob, you can't be calling Luton the north. When you're
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from the Kent Borders, it's a long way up. Ha, ha, ha.
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Because you're still there, aren't you? I was in Broccoli
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for a while, Rob. We wouldn't have been miles away
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from each other.
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Yeah, so I lived in New Cross and Hivergreen, but
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I'm a bit further out now, more Bromley ways, but
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you've gone.
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Far north now.
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Exactly, yeah, yeah. And now I hate the whole of
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the south, remember?
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Of course.
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Well, look, if you're going to go north of the river,
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you might as well keep going.
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That's the best way.
486
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It just gets the further you go, the nicer it gets, people-wise.
487
00:19:07.930 --> 00:19:10.930
It was always such a negotiation when I was in town,
488
00:19:11.390 --> 00:19:14.160
when I lived south-east London. It was such a negotiation
489
00:19:14.180 --> 00:19:16.240
trying to get the cabbie to take me across the river.
490
00:19:16.299 --> 00:19:18.359
Don't get me started. It's been the bane of my life.
491
00:19:18.380 --> 00:19:19.640
My dad's a black cab driver.
492
00:19:19.819 --> 00:19:22.579
I'm not going that way. I'm not going that way.
493
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Oh, well, you are going that fucking way because you're
494
00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:27.039
a cab and I'm a passenger. You don't pick the
495
00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:28.460
destination and just drop me off.
496
00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:30.420
I need to pick my boy up from school. I think,
497
00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:31.940
so why is your light on? And then I would
498
00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.799
get on my high horse. Don't give me a hard
499
00:19:33.859 --> 00:19:34.880
time if I get in an Uber.
500
00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:35.259
I know.
501
00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:35.420
Ah!
502
00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:38.720
What I used to do was, being sneaky, if I
503
00:19:38.769 --> 00:19:40.410
would stand on the side of the road that was
504
00:19:40.450 --> 00:19:43.349
going north, and then when I'd get in, I'd go, Lewisham.
505
00:19:43.369 --> 00:19:46.369
They'd go, what? I'd go, yeah, you alone. Yeah, but
506
00:19:46.410 --> 00:19:48.730
you're going that way. No, I'm not. I'm just stood here.
507
00:19:49.230 --> 00:19:49.980
We're going that way.
508
00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:52.819
Surprise! Yeah.
509
00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:55.220
They refused to take me to Bromley from Victoria once
510
00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:57.589
because they said... They can refuse it if it's over
511
00:19:57.609 --> 00:19:59.390
a certain amount of miles. And I Googled the miles
512
00:19:59.430 --> 00:20:02.089
in front of him and it was lower than the thing.
513
00:20:02.109 --> 00:20:04.250
And he went, but I'm not going that way. And
514
00:20:04.269 --> 00:20:06.789
I was like, you wanker. Then I think I was
515
00:20:06.829 --> 00:20:08.970
quite pissed and was like, now she's starting to talk
516
00:20:09.029 --> 00:20:09.509
about Uber.
517
00:20:09.549 --> 00:20:10.670
It's so petty though, isn't it?
518
00:20:13.150 --> 00:20:15.769
Oh, God. Although I've got to say, actually, they're sort
519
00:20:15.789 --> 00:20:17.789
of slightly more generous if you've got the buggy. They
520
00:20:17.829 --> 00:20:20.119
sort of take pity on you, sort of wrestling the
521
00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.759
buggy and your baby's kicking off and your bag falls
522
00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:23.599
off your shoulder.
523
00:20:23.660 --> 00:20:24.420
No, I think they're great.
524
00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.579
I much prefer a black cab service than an Uber service.
525
00:20:27.619 --> 00:20:29.680
But my problem with the black cab service is sometimes
526
00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:32.160
the service doesn't exist if they decide it doesn't exist.
527
00:20:32.180 --> 00:20:32.299
Oh.
528
00:20:33.779 --> 00:20:35.619
Which, when it's pissing down with rain and you're waiting
529
00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:37.940
outside a pub, you think, well, what's the fucking point?
530
00:20:38.289 --> 00:20:40.490
You've got to wait there and hope a cab comes
531
00:20:40.549 --> 00:20:43.349
past with its light on and then also is happy
532
00:20:43.369 --> 00:20:44.069
to go south.
533
00:20:45.369 --> 00:20:46.950
Anyway, it's good to know why you moved north. Did
534
00:20:46.970 --> 00:20:48.109
you consider moving to Hull?
535
00:20:48.430 --> 00:20:51.589
No, I've never considered moving to Hull.
536
00:20:51.630 --> 00:20:52.930
Kevin's from Hull, right?
537
00:20:53.390 --> 00:20:54.819
Not miles away. He's from Grimsby.
538
00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:55.740
Oh, he's from Grimsby.
539
00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:56.539
Sorry, sorry.
540
00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.319
Oh, even worse. No offence, but yeah.
541
00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:01.019
His team is Scunthorpe.
542
00:21:01.039 --> 00:21:01.380
Christ.
543
00:21:01.640 --> 00:21:03.880
No wonder he wanted the glitz and glamour of dance.
544
00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:07.160
I actually used Hull and it was worse, it turned out.
545
00:21:07.180 --> 00:21:08.910
Grimsby and Scunthorpe were the answers.
546
00:21:10.420 --> 00:21:13.250
Yeah, love his art, Grimsby and Scunthorpe. Yeah, there you go.
547
00:21:13.410 --> 00:21:15.250
That's his team. We went to go and watch them
548
00:21:15.289 --> 00:21:18.460
the other day and, yeah, it wasn't what I was expecting.
549
00:21:18.579 --> 00:21:19.779
Did you feel like you stood a documentary?
550
00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:24.759
LAUGHTER What were you expecting when you went to see
551
00:21:24.819 --> 00:21:26.160
Scunthorpe play football?
552
00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.279
I think I didn't realise. I'd only seen like premiership teams,
553
00:21:30.299 --> 00:21:32.640
so the whole thing felt much grander. So I couldn't
554
00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:34.740
believe how close you were. You could sort of see
555
00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.420
the expressions on their faces and you could hear what
556
00:21:37.460 --> 00:21:38.980
everyone was saying. It felt there.
557
00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:40.859
And you were surprised by how small the ground was.
558
00:21:40.900 --> 00:21:43.380
This is coming from someone that's hometown club is Luton.
559
00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:46.769
To get to one of the stands, you have to
560
00:21:46.809 --> 00:21:48.490
walk through someone's terraced house.
561
00:21:48.630 --> 00:21:50.789
You have to walk through someone's garden, yeah.
562
00:21:51.400 --> 00:21:53.619
Oh, I love that. I love that ground.
563
00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:54.740
It is brilliant.
564
00:21:54.779 --> 00:21:56.259
Is your daughter dancing yet?
565
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No. So this is really interesting, actually. It's sort of
566
00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:02.119
interesting territory.
567
00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:03.339
When did Kev start?
568
00:22:03.690 --> 00:22:04.630
When he was four.
569
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When he was four.
570
00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:09.279
Kev was tiny when he started dancing because his folks
571
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danced and they had a dance school.
572
00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:11.420
No way out.
573
00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:12.079
That's it.
574
00:22:12.380 --> 00:22:14.059
You're in Grimsby School of Dance.
575
00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.119
Grimsby School of Dance or something like that. I think
576
00:22:17.140 --> 00:22:20.490
it's like Clifton's Dance Academy or something very highbrow. But
577
00:22:20.529 --> 00:22:22.490
he would be at the back of the class and,
578
00:22:22.509 --> 00:22:25.230
of course, inevitably just sort of started dancing. Him and
579
00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:28.950
his sister. His sister was brilliant too. She was like, well, champion.
580
00:22:28.990 --> 00:22:30.630
She was number one for a very long time in
581
00:22:30.670 --> 00:22:31.170
the ballroom.
582
00:22:31.190 --> 00:22:31.369
Oh, wow.
583
00:22:32.180 --> 00:22:36.420
Yeah. Kev sort of preferred the Latin. Anyway, Minnie, I
584
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.809
love dancing. And the baby, I've always got the radio
585
00:22:39.910 --> 00:22:41.990
on and the baby, I'll be swinging the baby around.
586
00:22:42.089 --> 00:22:44.829
And I say, oh, let's take her dancing. I think
587
00:22:44.890 --> 00:22:48.460
he's sort of a bit... kind of hesitant because it's
588
00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.339
such a relentless world. Do you know what I mean?
589
00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.180
She doesn't have to do it professionally.
590
00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:55.880
No, but at a young age, it's good for fitness
591
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and fun and stuff.
592
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Yeah, but she prefers football, Rob. So she goes football
593
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.190
on a Saturday. Yeah, diddy kicks, she goes.
594
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Diddy kicks.
595
00:23:04.569 --> 00:23:07.069
And she's mad on it. She's so excited.
596
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Oh, that's nice.
597
00:23:07.670 --> 00:23:07.930
Oh, wow.
598
00:23:08.569 --> 00:23:11.009
And Dad took her last Saturday because I was working.
599
00:23:11.029 --> 00:23:13.430
You'll see the state of her. She had these– it
600
00:23:13.470 --> 00:23:15.490
looks like she was going on some expedition. She had
601
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her big snow boots on that she wore in Finland.
602
00:23:18.740 --> 00:23:19.380
Oh, yeah.
603
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White tight. He sent me a photo. I said, Kev–
604
00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.380
Where's her trainers? Oh, she won't put them on.
605
00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:27.579
That's good. Let her express herself.
606
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:30.559
No, that's all right. But she loves it. She loves
607
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Coach Tom and Coach Matthew.
608
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That's the thing, though. Considering both your jobs, it's quite
609
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extreme because you can dance, but then also go on
610
00:23:37.589 --> 00:23:39.769
a huge deep dive about the motivations of the individual
611
00:23:39.789 --> 00:23:41.930
in the room when they just want to dance. But
612
00:23:41.950 --> 00:23:44.130
you're like, but really, let's get to the nub of this.
613
00:23:44.970 --> 00:23:45.819
Where's the truth here?
614
00:23:46.019 --> 00:23:50.900
Where are them leggings from? I know, life or art,
615
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:52.140
doesn't stand a chance.
616
00:23:52.539 --> 00:23:55.049
How is the work-life balance going then? Because what's kept
617
00:23:55.089 --> 00:23:58.130
up to the moment? How much are you splitting the childcare?
618
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Because both your jobs are quite unpredictable, really, aren't they?
619
00:24:01.029 --> 00:24:03.190
You could both get a phone call this afternoon, which
620
00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:04.500
could be a few weeks away work.
621
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:08.119
Exactly right, Rob. So you'll know more than me. Our
622
00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:10.349
jobs are sort of so nomadic, you know what I mean?
623
00:24:10.369 --> 00:24:12.910
Like he's on tour with Chicago at the minute and he's,
624
00:24:13.410 --> 00:24:15.150
I think he's got another couple of months on that.
625
00:24:15.470 --> 00:24:17.390
And is he away full time then? If he's away
626
00:24:17.450 --> 00:24:19.529
for two months, he's away every day for two months?
627
00:24:19.930 --> 00:24:23.029
Well, he comes back on a Sunday. So sometimes he
628
00:24:23.069 --> 00:24:25.970
can commute depending on the location. So he's left this
629
00:24:26.029 --> 00:24:29.369
morning for Oxford. So he's down in Oxford for the week.
630
00:24:29.390 --> 00:24:32.450
He'll come back Saturday night. He drives. Love his art.
631
00:24:32.470 --> 00:24:34.829
So he finishes at half ten, 11 o'clock. Then he'll
632
00:24:34.849 --> 00:24:36.630
get in the car and drive so he can wake
633
00:24:36.650 --> 00:24:38.150
up on Sunday.
634
00:24:38.490 --> 00:24:43.019
And what's his role in Chicago? So can he sing
635
00:24:43.059 --> 00:24:45.839
as well? Yeah, he's good, actually. Is he? Do you
636
00:24:45.900 --> 00:24:48.400
fancy him, Josh? Do I fancy him?
637
00:24:48.420 --> 00:24:51.690
He's a real catch. I never thought I'd fancy a
638
00:24:51.690 --> 00:24:54.289
ballroom dancer, but here we are. Yeah.
639
00:24:54.650 --> 00:24:57.599
He's not just Bob. He's not just any fucking ballroom dancer.
640
00:24:57.640 --> 00:24:58.059
He is.
641
00:24:58.890 --> 00:25:00.789
Genuinely the lady's choice.
642
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:02.359
Yeah but josh but you're not talking about him like
643
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.779
that but he's not the 41 year old comedian male
644
00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:08.579
heterosexual choice but you're really gushing they're all sort.
645
00:25:08.420 --> 00:25:10.569
Of handsome in their own way what i liked about
646
00:25:10.609 --> 00:25:11.170
kev was.
647
00:25:11.029 --> 00:25:13.869
He's a bit nerdy isn't he Exactly.
648
00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:15.980
He's not the immediate choice.
649
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.420
He looks like a computer programmer who's gone on one
650
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:20.259
of those 12-week body transformations.
651
00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:22.960
Josh, you are absolutely on the money. You've hit the
652
00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:25.829
nail on the head. You look at Gorka. Yeah, he's handsome.
653
00:25:25.869 --> 00:25:27.230
They're all obviously handsome.
654
00:25:27.309 --> 00:25:28.009
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
655
00:25:28.089 --> 00:25:30.549
But there's something about Kev. He's sort of so nonchalant
656
00:25:30.589 --> 00:25:32.829
and a bit aloof. He's the nerd of the gang
657
00:25:32.849 --> 00:25:35.970
that you're so desperate for him to like you. He's
658
00:25:36.009 --> 00:25:38.220
been surrounded by beautiful women his whole life. He's not
659
00:25:38.380 --> 00:25:41.309
easily sort of... impressed so you have to sort of
660
00:25:41.329 --> 00:25:41.529
have a.
661
00:25:41.509 --> 00:25:45.420
Bit of chat like yeah that's like rob it's difficult
662
00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:46.039
with rob.
663
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:47.859
I feel like i've burst into a hen do with
664
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:52.160
two women talking about their crushes I'm just sort of
665
00:25:52.180 --> 00:25:53.160
politely nodding along.
666
00:25:53.180 --> 00:25:55.680
What do you think of Aliash? He's got great shoulders.
667
00:25:56.049 --> 00:25:56.529
I don't know.
668
00:25:56.549 --> 00:26:00.170
I don't really watch Strictly. I wasn't asking you, Rob. Sorry.
669
00:26:00.589 --> 00:26:04.430
Aliash is crazy handsome. He's like a statue. Actually, there's
670
00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:08.730
a really funny tweet that someone obviously unearthed when I
671
00:26:08.809 --> 00:26:11.809
sent a tweet 100 years ago before I did the show,
672
00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:14.750
and Kevin Aliash started at the same time, and I
673
00:26:14.750 --> 00:26:16.809
was like, oh, my God, that new boy is stunning,
674
00:26:16.869 --> 00:26:18.259
and I was referencing Aliash.
675
00:26:18.579 --> 00:26:18.640
Oh.
676
00:26:19.019 --> 00:26:21.579
And then somebody found it and Kev was like, oh,
677
00:26:21.579 --> 00:26:23.240
Stacey always fancied me. I was like, but that was
678
00:26:23.299 --> 00:26:26.769
about Ali Ash. But yes, you did it, Josh.
679
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.349
I did it. Did you enjoy it? I loved it, yeah.
680
00:26:29.390 --> 00:26:31.309
You've got to do the full series, Josh. I wouldn't
681
00:26:31.349 --> 00:26:33.230
do the full series. It's too much effort and I'm
682
00:26:33.269 --> 00:26:34.539
not good enough. Why not?
683
00:26:34.859 --> 00:26:35.460
It's a slog.
684
00:26:35.660 --> 00:26:42.410
It's a slog, yeah. How's your sleep, Stacey? Better now.
685
00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:47.269
Can I say something, right? For me, the sleep deprivation
686
00:26:47.789 --> 00:26:51.390
was the hardest part of motherhood. I cannot begin to
687
00:26:51.410 --> 00:26:55.390
tell you. The first year, my baby didn't sleep one night.
688
00:26:56.009 --> 00:26:56.309
Really?
689
00:26:56.430 --> 00:26:59.029
And I'm not exaggerating. She first slept through when she
690
00:26:59.049 --> 00:27:00.269
was about 14 months old.
691
00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:03.079
What is sleeping through? What time between would you say?
692
00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:05.720
From like, I don't know, 10 till 4.
693
00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.900
Oh, fucking hell, that's not sleeping through, Stacey.
694
00:27:07.980 --> 00:27:09.480
Yeah, I'm not exaggerating.
695
00:27:10.609 --> 00:27:12.569
That's sleeping a bit, I think we call that. To
696
00:27:12.609 --> 00:27:14.750
people without a kid, that's a terrible night. That's what
697
00:27:14.789 --> 00:27:15.250
that is.
698
00:27:16.009 --> 00:27:17.730
That's take the day off work.
699
00:27:17.829 --> 00:27:20.990
I just, I totally underestimated the lack of sleep. And
700
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:22.759
it's because it was my own fault. I went in
701
00:27:22.819 --> 00:27:25.559
so unprepared. I didn't do one antenatal class. I didn't
702
00:27:25.579 --> 00:27:29.099
listen to one podcast. I didn't read any books.
703
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.539
No, but I don't think they're of any use because
704
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:34.279
that actually makes you think that you can control it
705
00:27:34.380 --> 00:27:36.119
or you can do this or that.
706
00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:39.630
You're basically birthing a machine. But like, actually.
707
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.180
I'd say the book I read and the kind of
708
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:48.599
prep I did was a mistake because it made me
709
00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:49.779
think it was going to be all right.
710
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:50.579
Do you know what I mean?
711
00:27:50.779 --> 00:27:52.099
The only thing that helped me, I didn't read a
712
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:53.880
book or go do any of that stuff or listen
713
00:27:53.900 --> 00:27:55.039
to any podcasts. The only thing that helped me was
714
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.619
hearing Josh having a worse time than me.
715
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:57.759
That helped.
716
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.079
You need that. Yeah. What used to happen, which was
717
00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:03.839
obviously really brilliant, was a couple of months in, you're
718
00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:05.700
sort of in the trenches, aren't you? And you're digging
719
00:28:05.740 --> 00:28:08.319
through and And then I would see people in the
720
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.809
coffee shop or whatever, and they'd have three-week-olds. And they'd
721
00:28:10.829 --> 00:28:12.549
be like, oh, give him a bottle, put him down
722
00:28:12.569 --> 00:28:14.710
at seven, then he gets up at seven. I thought
723
00:28:14.970 --> 00:28:17.569
all the women who had brilliantly babies who slept right
724
00:28:17.609 --> 00:28:20.069
through would just come and tell me. But anyway, she's
725
00:28:20.170 --> 00:28:21.930
good as gold now. She'll sleep through. But she's been
726
00:28:21.950 --> 00:28:22.450
in our beds.
727
00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:25.309
Did you do anything to get, to change it? Or
728
00:28:25.349 --> 00:28:25.910
did you just?
729
00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:27.990
Not really. I mean, I think it was because she
730
00:28:28.019 --> 00:28:29.900
was still on the boob. Everyone was saying when she's
731
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.759
off the boob and she can take a bottle, you might.
732
00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:33.740
Have an outramp.
733
00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:35.880
At least you can get some sleep and then Kev
734
00:28:35.900 --> 00:28:38.759
can take a shift if she's on a, or expressed
735
00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:41.180
or on the bottle. Yeah. So she didn't have any
736
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.539
of that until she was 40 months.
737
00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:44.740
Yeah, she was on the bed for about a year. Yeah.
738
00:28:44.859 --> 00:28:48.500
And again, that's something, Rob, I really didn't think, like, foolishly,
739
00:28:48.539 --> 00:28:51.200
before I had the baby, I maybe thought breastfeeding was
740
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.240
like a bit woo-woo or whatever, you know what I mean? Like,
741
00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:55.339
I just didn't think that would be for me. And
742
00:28:55.380 --> 00:28:59.509
I loved it and it became really important to me. So, yeah,
743
00:28:59.769 --> 00:29:01.970
breastfed for a year, didn't sleep for a year.
744
00:29:01.990 --> 00:29:02.069
Yeah.
745
00:29:02.430 --> 00:29:04.809
I remember the first night she took a bottle of
746
00:29:04.890 --> 00:29:08.049
milk and she was upstairs with Kevin. Kevin texted me,
747
00:29:08.109 --> 00:29:10.539
she has taken the bottle of milk and I could
748
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:13.099
not believe it. I thought, we've cracked it.
749
00:29:13.180 --> 00:29:16.200
Oh my God, yeah. We've cracked it. We're laughing.
750
00:29:18.539 --> 00:29:21.059
Anyway the sleep yeah knocked me out knocked me for.
751
00:29:20.980 --> 00:29:22.849
Six to sleep and she's in your bed now has
752
00:29:22.869 --> 00:29:24.349
she got her own room does she go in there
753
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:24.980
and come in no.
754
00:29:25.109 --> 00:29:27.910
Do you know what again it's like i'm sort of
755
00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:30.329
not really asked i know there's like such emphasis placed
756
00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:31.769
on getting them in their own bed but i think
757
00:29:31.789 --> 00:29:33.910
it's because kept away so much of the time anyway
758
00:29:33.970 --> 00:29:36.190
yeah have an evening we'll have something to eat then
759
00:29:36.210 --> 00:29:37.809
i'll put her in the bath we'll have a bit
760
00:29:37.869 --> 00:29:40.279
of a chat put her pyjamas on. And then we
761
00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:42.740
just end up getting in my bed together. Watch one
762
00:29:42.779 --> 00:29:45.279
episode of Paddington and then go to sleep.
763
00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:47.000
What time are you going to sleep, Stace?
764
00:29:47.220 --> 00:29:48.099
I'm going to bed early.
765
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.079
Are you sleeping through?
766
00:29:49.259 --> 00:29:50.920
Yeah, I'm going to bed at eight o'clock.
767
00:29:51.089 --> 00:29:51.549
Wow.
768
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:53.109
Yeah, if I'm not home, I'm in bed at eight.
769
00:29:53.230 --> 00:29:54.869
And then what time do you all get up? Does
770
00:29:54.890 --> 00:29:55.650
she sleep through now?
771
00:29:55.670 --> 00:29:58.849
Kev's still dealing with Roxy being in prison and you're asleep.
772
00:29:58.869 --> 00:30:05.339
No. Yeah, we're having a great time now.
773
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:07.500
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're sleeping eight till eight.
774
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.299
I do think that is the way to get sleep,
775
00:30:09.460 --> 00:30:11.720
but then it is not always practical if you've got
776
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:13.940
other stuff going on or you've got other kids that
777
00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.380
are still awake, you know what I mean, and stuff
778
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:17.089
like that. But if you can, why not?
779
00:30:17.609 --> 00:30:19.690
I tell you what, though, we've sort of set a precedent.
780
00:30:19.750 --> 00:30:20.529
Eight o'clock.
781
00:30:20.630 --> 00:30:22.450
I love it. Honestly, I'll get a cup of tea.
782
00:30:22.549 --> 00:30:23.049
Oh, my God.
783
00:30:23.210 --> 00:30:23.890
I love it.
784
00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:25.730
A seven-year-old don't go to sleep until about half eight, nine.
785
00:30:25.750 --> 00:30:26.690
They just won't calm down.
786
00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:27.670
No. Like that?
787
00:30:27.750 --> 00:30:30.190
Yeah. I did a show last year. I was in
788
00:30:30.210 --> 00:30:31.970
the town and was doing a show in the theatre.
789
00:30:32.019 --> 00:30:34.000
So that obviously meant I was working of an evening.
790
00:30:34.259 --> 00:30:36.460
But now I'm just so used to, like, being taken
791
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:38.480
to bed, like in a double bed and having someone
792
00:30:38.500 --> 00:30:40.819
to sleep with. It was my mum or Kev's mum.
793
00:30:40.900 --> 00:30:42.859
So they were all going to bed at, like, 8 o'clock.
794
00:30:42.900 --> 00:30:45.180
Do you know what I'm saying? The routine was you
795
00:30:45.299 --> 00:30:47.059
were going to bed at 8 o'clock. You can look
796
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:48.500
after my child and you were going to bed at
797
00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:48.880
8 o'clock.
798
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.380
OK. Is she in the middle when Kev's back? How
799
00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:53.859
does that work?
800
00:30:53.900 --> 00:30:55.000
Yeah. Yeah.
801
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:56.519
My son, he comes in.
802
00:30:57.140 --> 00:30:59.720
about it depends i mean they don't want to be
803
00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:02.200
too graphic it depends whether he's had a shit that
804
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.920
day which is an incredible thing because he's still going
805
00:31:05.940 --> 00:31:07.910
through the stage where he's like holding them and stuff
806
00:31:08.349 --> 00:31:10.210
so if he hasn't he'll come in at 3 a.m
807
00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:13.730
in stomach problems but otherwise he'll come in at the
808
00:31:13.769 --> 00:31:17.210
six but when he's in he's three but he's kicking
809
00:31:17.269 --> 00:31:17.730
and he's.
810
00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:19.170
Difficult to sleep with him in.
811
00:31:19.630 --> 00:31:21.150
You need a bigger bed though i saw your bed
812
00:31:21.190 --> 00:31:23.380
on michael mcintyre you've only got a double josh i
813
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.680
think you need to go size up if you're You can't.
814
00:31:26.940 --> 00:31:29.180
There's no room for a size up in zone two, Rob.
815
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:31.140
Well, you need to move then. I bet you've got
816
00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:33.380
loads of room. I'm not going into this again. The
817
00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:36.279
taxis won't drop you off. You can't have a double
818
00:31:36.579 --> 00:31:38.180
in a happy marriage. Me and Lou would have to
819
00:31:38.220 --> 00:31:40.109
divorce just to double. She needs to spread out.
820
00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:42.789
He's three, little boy, Josh. I thought he was older.
821
00:31:42.930 --> 00:31:46.009
But no, my daughter's seven. She's happily in her own bed.
822
00:31:46.109 --> 00:31:49.950
She's fine. Are you thinking, oh, I want her to
823
00:31:49.990 --> 00:31:50.630
leave at some point?
824
00:31:50.650 --> 00:31:53.660
You can't be bothered. There's no point if Kev's in
825
00:31:53.819 --> 00:31:56.259
Oxford doing Chicago. Well, this is it.
826
00:31:56.299 --> 00:31:59.859
What am I doing otherwise? Yeah. Maybe when Kev's back
827
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:02.079
on the scene, we start remembering how you have sex.
828
00:32:02.460 --> 00:32:05.119
Then maybe I would think, actually, Minnie, you're going to
829
00:32:05.140 --> 00:32:06.200
have to go sort of hang out in your own
830
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:06.839
bedroom now.
831
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.900
From like a relationship point of view, it's hard enough
832
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:11.569
to have the energy at any point. But if you've
833
00:32:11.589 --> 00:32:13.329
got to add into the mix the removal of a
834
00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:14.190
small child.
835
00:32:14.490 --> 00:32:16.170
Yeah. How are we going to sort of, yeah, and
836
00:32:16.230 --> 00:32:17.089
not wake her up?
837
00:32:17.410 --> 00:32:18.970
Yeah, I struggle with a cat in the room, never
838
00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:19.690
mind a child.
839
00:32:19.730 --> 00:32:21.690
Yeah. I always think it's odd when people can have
840
00:32:21.730 --> 00:32:23.369
sex when there's animals in the room. I find that
841
00:32:23.410 --> 00:32:24.089
really bizarre.
842
00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:26.220
Do you? It actually turns Josh on. He demands it.
843
00:32:26.410 --> 00:32:28.349
Yeah, particularly if it's just me and the cat.
844
00:32:28.490 --> 00:32:30.900
It's not for me, actually, Josh. A cat, a dog, nothing.
845
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.559
I feel exposed. Do you know, one time, actually, I was...
846
00:32:34.299 --> 00:32:36.160
I'm going off the list here. I do this series
847
00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:38.859
called Sleeps Over, right, where I stay around these people's houses.
848
00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:40.720
I get there on a Friday, leave on a Monday.
849
00:32:40.740 --> 00:32:41.000
Yeah.
850
00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:43.119
That's my idea of absolute hell, by the way, Stacey.
851
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:43.569
Is it?
852
00:32:43.579 --> 00:32:43.920
Yeah.
853
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:46.759
Yeah. I love it. I did one in America, right?
854
00:32:46.859 --> 00:32:49.420
And the family, it was like an age gap couple.
855
00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:51.819
So she was in her 60s, he's in his 20s.
856
00:32:52.369 --> 00:32:56.160
They're like going for it. They're on OnlyFans. Anyway, that night,
857
00:32:56.180 --> 00:32:58.930
it's like a one bedroom flat. I was on the sofa.
858
00:32:59.690 --> 00:33:02.250
My producer, Mish, was on like a blow up mattress
859
00:33:02.309 --> 00:33:07.329
on the floor. Them two are just having a great evening.
860
00:33:07.349 --> 00:33:11.589
And there was like this kind of bright, fish tank
861
00:33:11.690 --> 00:33:15.589
with like neon lights flashing and the kind of flashes
862
00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:19.089
were in time with the banging and I just remember
863
00:33:19.130 --> 00:33:23.089
the whole evening being so bizarre and I was pregnant.
864
00:33:22.690 --> 00:33:24.170
Oh god oh my god so I.
865
00:33:24.089 --> 00:33:27.769
Just remember the whole evening just being so peculiar and
866
00:33:28.410 --> 00:33:30.710
now whenever I see a fish tank I'm taken straight
867
00:33:30.730 --> 00:33:31.009
back to.
868
00:33:30.990 --> 00:33:34.819
That but okay that's totally understandable that the fish is
869
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:35.809
a mood killer.
870
00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:40.799
Those weekends are completely mad. They are completely insane.
871
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.289
And are they totally for real then? Legit, yeah.
872
00:33:43.420 --> 00:33:47.089
Because you'd think, oh, she probably goes to a hotel
873
00:33:47.250 --> 00:33:48.490
once they've filmed her.
874
00:33:48.809 --> 00:33:49.109
Yeah.
875
00:33:49.369 --> 00:33:50.710
So you're sleeping on the sofa.
876
00:33:51.220 --> 00:33:53.509
I'm sleeping on the sofa while them two are going
877
00:33:53.529 --> 00:33:56.210
for it. And there's like a neon fish tank.
878
00:33:56.509 --> 00:33:57.069
Bloody hell.
879
00:33:57.269 --> 00:33:59.910
And there was like loads of incense sticks everywhere. I
880
00:33:59.950 --> 00:34:02.930
remember so clearly like the really intense smell of incense.
881
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:04.819
It was just so bizarre. Yeah.
882
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:06.720
It never truly covers it up as well if they're
883
00:34:06.740 --> 00:34:07.000
going a.
884
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:07.500
Bit that much.
885
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.019
This is it. Exactly right.
886
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.469
It's like a smoker's flat. Sex people's houses. You can
887
00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:16.239
smell it. So when you're away like that, I mean,
888
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:17.820
I don't know if you've done any of those since
889
00:34:17.860 --> 00:34:19.219
Minnie's been born, but when you are away a bit
890
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.630
of time, obviously she's used to Kevin being away more.
891
00:34:22.110 --> 00:34:23.789
How is she when you're away? Is she okay with
892
00:34:23.809 --> 00:34:24.909
that now, or is it a struggle?
893
00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:27.489
Do you know, we've really lucked out, and it might change,
894
00:34:27.510 --> 00:34:30.989
but she's very adaptable. Like, she's quite chill. Like, she'll
895
00:34:31.010 --> 00:34:33.170
wave her dad off, or if I'm sort of down
896
00:34:33.210 --> 00:34:34.969
in London or whatever, I'll be like, bye, Mum, have
897
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.579
a nice day. Yeah, because she loves hanging out with
898
00:34:37.619 --> 00:34:39.519
her nan, and if my mum's not about, she'll have
899
00:34:39.579 --> 00:34:43.039
Kev's mum, her grandma, So she's not us, really, because
900
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:43.949
we all fuss her.
901
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.179
I think also if you're used to it, it just
902
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:47.300
makes total sense to you.
903
00:34:47.340 --> 00:34:48.079
Do you know what I mean?
904
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:48.559
Yeah.
905
00:34:48.699 --> 00:34:51.820
It's like, oh, mum's gone off to do work. Yeah.
906
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.889
And I sort of like that. That sort of sounds
907
00:34:53.909 --> 00:34:56.570
into sort of earnest or righteous. I like the idea
908
00:34:56.610 --> 00:34:58.650
of her saying, oh, mum goes to work. I sort
909
00:34:58.670 --> 00:35:00.210
of like that from an early age.
910
00:35:00.289 --> 00:35:01.889
I've found my girls have got a little bit worse
911
00:35:01.909 --> 00:35:03.230
with it as they've got older and they've been more
912
00:35:03.309 --> 00:35:04.309
aware of what's going on.
913
00:35:04.369 --> 00:35:04.650
Really?
914
00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:06.309
Especially for my youngest. But then I think I was
915
00:35:06.369 --> 00:35:09.010
at home a lot during... when she was like two
916
00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:09.489
to four.
917
00:35:09.630 --> 00:35:09.869
Yeah.
918
00:35:09.889 --> 00:35:10.969
So then she was just used to me being there
919
00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:11.630
all the time.
920
00:35:11.650 --> 00:35:11.849
Yeah.
921
00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:14.960
But it's a constant, the changing and evolving and stuff,
922
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.579
but it's just a balance. You've got to go to work,
923
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:18.559
haven't you? And if you work, that's your work. If
924
00:35:18.579 --> 00:35:20.480
you're Billy Flynn in Oxford, you're Billy Flynn in Oxford.
925
00:35:20.739 --> 00:35:22.139
Listen, if you've got to go and save Roxy, you've
926
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:23.159
got to go and save Roxy.
927
00:35:23.380 --> 00:35:24.619
Yeah, if you've got to stand next to a fish
928
00:35:24.659 --> 00:35:26.889
tank while a six-year-old woman's getting banged by a 20-year-old in.
929
00:35:26.889 --> 00:35:30.239
A one-bed flat. You've got to pay your mortgage, Rob.
930
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:31.199
You've got to pay the mortgage.
931
00:35:31.219 --> 00:35:33.659
No, but it's true. And again, this isn't something sort
932
00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:35.619
of exclusive to us. It's all of us are trying
933
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.119
to figure that out, aren't we? We all want to
934
00:35:37.139 --> 00:35:38.400
hang out with our kids and we all want to
935
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:40.599
make sure we're present, but we've all got to pay
936
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:41.400
the electricity bills.
937
00:35:41.420 --> 00:35:42.420
What works for you?
938
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:43.679
If you like kind of bed at eight o'clock and
939
00:35:43.699 --> 00:35:45.880
you get 12 hours sleep and she's sleeping, why not?
940
00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:46.800
I'm bouncing.
941
00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:48.800
You're the two people that's going to affect most, so
942
00:35:48.820 --> 00:35:49.590
just do what works.
943
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.250
Absolutely. She really is doing great. She's such a wicked
944
00:35:52.269 --> 00:35:54.630
little kid. And I'm obviously, I'm also really annoying and
945
00:35:54.650 --> 00:35:57.070
really smart because her talking is so brilliant. So I'm
946
00:35:57.090 --> 00:35:59.170
a bit of a show off. Like when we're down
947
00:35:59.210 --> 00:36:01.750
the park and the other mums go, how old is she?
948
00:36:01.809 --> 00:36:04.369
Her talking. I go, yeah, she's just turned two. I'm
949
00:36:04.409 --> 00:36:04.969
all like that.
950
00:36:05.010 --> 00:36:05.650
I'm really annoying.
951
00:36:05.929 --> 00:36:07.550
Do that for a whole year and see if anyone
952
00:36:07.570 --> 00:36:08.769
calls you out on it. Like when she gets to
953
00:36:08.829 --> 00:36:09.309
three and a half.
954
00:36:09.329 --> 00:36:10.010
Yeah, she's 19 months. Yeah.
955
00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:18.869
44 months no one could do maths that quick just
956
00:36:18.889 --> 00:36:19.849
say two and a bit.
957
00:36:20.610 --> 00:36:22.889
Normally like there'll be someone on here and the book
958
00:36:22.909 --> 00:36:25.800
they've written or something will have no relation to it
959
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:27.460
or they'll be going on a tour and it'll have
960
00:36:27.539 --> 00:36:31.239
no relation to parenting stacy you're actually of interest to
961
00:36:31.260 --> 00:36:32.179
our listeners.
962
00:36:32.059 --> 00:36:35.760
That is a parenting book yes well dear minnie isn't it.
963
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.280
It's called Dear Minnie. So, you know what it's like.
964
00:36:38.300 --> 00:36:39.929
We were sort of flirting with the idea, like, are
965
00:36:39.949 --> 00:36:41.769
we going to do a third book? Yeah, I'd like
966
00:36:41.789 --> 00:36:43.110
to do a third book. So we were sort of
967
00:36:43.150 --> 00:36:45.150
back and forth. What's the third book going to be about?
968
00:36:45.469 --> 00:36:46.510
And then it was sort of a no-brainer. Do you
969
00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:47.909
know what I mean? It was like, oh, well, you've
970
00:36:47.929 --> 00:36:49.260
just had a baby. Do you want to do a
971
00:36:49.260 --> 00:36:50.340
book about motherhood? And it was like.
972
00:36:51.909 --> 00:36:55.730
Maybe, but you know, it's such an oversaturated market.
973
00:36:55.750 --> 00:36:57.769
Too right. Get your fucking tanks off our lawn.
974
00:36:58.010 --> 00:37:00.789
Oh, get your tanks off our lawn. So I just
975
00:37:00.829 --> 00:37:03.289
didn't want it to be like that. And then I thought, actually,
976
00:37:03.889 --> 00:37:05.690
I'd kind of read, I think it was like one
977
00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:08.909
of the editorials, like... For Mother's Day, a couple of
978
00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:12.269
the editors, the contributors, the writers had written letters to
979
00:37:12.289 --> 00:37:14.869
their kids. And I thought, actually, that's really lovely. And
980
00:37:14.929 --> 00:37:17.090
sometimes it's the simplest ideas. Do you know what I mean?
981
00:37:17.139 --> 00:37:18.659
So I thought, I wonder if there's a world where
982
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.980
I can just have loads of conversations with loads of
983
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.829
different mums. Because it's so universal, isn't it?
984
00:37:23.869 --> 00:37:24.489
Yeah, of course.
985
00:37:24.849 --> 00:37:26.630
And so I thought, I wonder if they can sort
986
00:37:26.650 --> 00:37:28.210
of tell me what's going on from their point of view.
987
00:37:28.289 --> 00:37:29.929
And then it feels a bit more inclusive. Do you
988
00:37:29.949 --> 00:37:31.789
know what I mean? And I'm also painfully aware, like,
989
00:37:32.230 --> 00:37:34.369
I got pregnant. I was very lucky. My pregnancy was
990
00:37:34.389 --> 00:37:38.170
very straightforward. I fell pregnant with no complications. My birth,
991
00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:41.980
there was nothing overly difficult for me. And I so
992
00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:44.440
get that's not the case. So I wanted it to
993
00:37:44.460 --> 00:37:45.219
be representative.
994
00:37:45.500 --> 00:37:47.460
And it's letters from all these different mums that had
995
00:37:47.500 --> 00:37:49.639
different experiences and letters to their children.
996
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:50.360
Exactly.
997
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:51.900
That you sort of expand upon.
998
00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:54.510
Yeah, exactly right. And so much is quite nice as well,
999
00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:56.429
isn't it? It's like a keepsake for their families.
1000
00:37:56.530 --> 00:37:57.909
Their kids can.
1001
00:37:57.829 --> 00:38:00.989
Be mortified by these letters in 10 years, but thrilled
1002
00:38:01.190 --> 00:38:02.710
that they exist in 30 years.
1003
00:38:03.429 --> 00:38:04.409
I've got a bit confused.
1004
00:38:04.530 --> 00:38:06.449
I googled it and it said, Dear Mini Conversations with
1005
00:38:06.469 --> 00:38:09.099
Remarkable Mothers. What came up was just loads of things like,
1006
00:38:09.710 --> 00:38:12.670
really sort of traumatic and horrific stories or angles from
1007
00:38:12.690 --> 00:38:13.309
these things that have.
1008
00:38:13.250 --> 00:38:15.769
Happened to these mums or more normal ones. And the
1009
00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:17.070
way I read it, I thought it was you.
1010
00:38:17.090 --> 00:38:19.869
I was like, fucking hell. Dooley's been... It was excerpts
1011
00:38:19.889 --> 00:38:23.110
from all the different letters. I was like, oh, right,
1012
00:38:23.130 --> 00:38:23.710
I've got it now.
1013
00:38:23.809 --> 00:38:25.829
She's had the time of it. She's had the time
1014
00:38:25.889 --> 00:38:26.130
of it.
1015
00:38:26.150 --> 00:38:28.860
I was like, wow, poor old Dooley. This is going
1016
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.320
to be a good episode. Growing up in Lagos.
1017
00:38:31.659 --> 00:38:32.119
Jesus.
1018
00:38:32.179 --> 00:38:33.820
It was Luton.
1019
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.699
It's like loads of different mums all just sort of
1020
00:38:36.860 --> 00:38:38.119
writing letters to their kids.
1021
00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:39.880
And how did you find them all?
1022
00:38:40.059 --> 00:38:42.099
It was kind of like how we do docs, like
1023
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.380
sort of initially reach out to like different charities or
1024
00:38:45.420 --> 00:38:48.679
different NGOs or people that have those kinds of contacts.
1025
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:50.360
And then we did like sort of public sort of
1026
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.360
did shout outs and stuff online. And then we sort
1027
00:38:53.380 --> 00:38:55.260
of narrowed it down to, I mean, the book could
1028
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:56.980
have gone on and on. There's how many mums in
1029
00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:58.679
the UK, do you know what I mean? So we
1030
00:38:58.699 --> 00:39:02.360
sort of tried to, yeah, just make sure that There
1031
00:39:02.380 --> 00:39:04.599
were loads of different topics touched on, and I hope
1032
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.099
the mums are happy with it. I think they will be.
1033
00:39:07.139 --> 00:39:09.800
Do you want to write a letter to Minnie each year, maybe?
1034
00:39:10.139 --> 00:39:12.320
Lots of people do this, don't they? And I'm never
1035
00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:15.380
that organised. I need to get my shit together, truly.
1036
00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:17.239
I like the idea, like, on her birthday, when she
1037
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.750
was one, I wrote her a little letter. Yeah. Nothing
1038
00:39:20.789 --> 00:39:22.889
too soppy, but it was just... And then a photo,
1039
00:39:22.949 --> 00:39:25.250
and then on her second birthday, we did the same.
1040
00:39:25.289 --> 00:39:26.329
So I hope, like, every.
1041
00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:27.980
year oh that's nice.
1042
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:29.800
Yeah but you know I mean who's got time to
1043
00:39:29.820 --> 00:39:30.420
do all that.
1044
00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:32.599
I write a love letter twice a week on podcast
1045
00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:34.519
to my daughter that will hopefully pay for their weddings
1046
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.289
oh that's nice that's nice what a load of fucking
1047
00:39:38.309 --> 00:39:39.090
bullshit that is.
1048
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:43.500
What's wild, and I don't know if you two feel
1049
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.550
like this, some people are, like, desperate to become, like,
1050
00:39:46.619 --> 00:39:49.730
mums or desperate to become fathers, and it's, like, hugely
1051
00:39:49.769 --> 00:39:53.449
important to them, and it's a non-negotiable. I was never, like,
1052
00:39:53.769 --> 00:39:56.360
deeply maternal, right? So I didn't know how it was
1053
00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:00.099
going to play out. And now I'm just so... That
1054
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.500
sounds really cheesy, but I just so fucking love being
1055
00:40:02.539 --> 00:40:06.409
a mum, actually. I'm so thrilled. Like, thank God I
1056
00:40:06.449 --> 00:40:07.789
just did it. Thank God.
1057
00:40:07.949 --> 00:40:08.309
Yeah.
1058
00:40:08.590 --> 00:40:10.110
It's wild, isn't it? Like, it's just.
1059
00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:14.429
I wasn't one of those people who thought, this is definitely... Like, Robyn,
1060
00:40:14.489 --> 00:40:17.230
you were more like, this is where I want to go. Yeah,
1061
00:40:17.250 --> 00:40:18.449
I've always wanted kids.
1062
00:40:18.659 --> 00:40:20.420
Really? And I've always wanted girls as well. I come
1063
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.599
from so many men and boys. Yeah. in my family.
1064
00:40:23.980 --> 00:40:25.280
One of my nieces was born.
1065
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.539
It was the first daughter in the Beckett family for
1066
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:28.699
like 61 years.
1067
00:40:29.059 --> 00:40:29.980
Stop. Fucking hell.
1068
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.219
It was just all men and all boys. Like I've
1069
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.909
got four brothers and stuff like that. So it was
1070
00:40:34.929 --> 00:40:37.329
like the first girl born, but I wanted it to
1071
00:40:37.349 --> 00:40:39.630
be a dad. And I genuinely, I love it so
1072
00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:42.230
much more than anything else that I do. And I
1073
00:40:42.369 --> 00:40:44.590
get to do a lot of exciting, fun, cool stuff
1074
00:40:44.650 --> 00:40:45.090
in my job.
1075
00:40:45.110 --> 00:40:47.239
What about Robin Romesh? Yeah, do you know what?
1076
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:49.679
I love skiing with Romesh and Eddie the Eagle, but
1077
00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:50.900
I'd rather do it with my children.
1078
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:51.579
I hear that.
1079
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.360
Do you know what? I just don't believe that because
1080
00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:56.639
Romesh is a national treasure. No, but I love it.
1081
00:40:56.650 --> 00:40:59.050
And it's not like I thought like, I was very
1082
00:40:59.110 --> 00:41:01.250
ambitious and career driven and stuff like that. And I
1083
00:41:01.269 --> 00:41:02.510
still am to a point where I want to do
1084
00:41:02.530 --> 00:41:04.420
a good job and I'm very lucky to do what
1085
00:41:04.460 --> 00:41:07.219
I do. But being with the kids and as much
1086
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.780
as we moan about it, but hanging out with the
1087
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.400
kids or take them swimming and seeing their little smile.
1088
00:41:10.420 --> 00:41:11.679
In fact, I love it so much.
1089
00:41:11.699 --> 00:41:13.889
And I've loved every stage of it even more so
1090
00:41:13.929 --> 00:41:15.809
as they're growing older and they feel like my mates
1091
00:41:15.949 --> 00:41:18.690
rather than these little babies that need just constant care,
1092
00:41:18.710 --> 00:41:18.889
you know.
1093
00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:21.429
I echo that. It's totally right. So much of my
1094
00:41:21.489 --> 00:41:23.130
identity was wrapped up in what I did for a living.
1095
00:41:23.150 --> 00:41:24.070
Yeah, totally.
1096
00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:26.920
You know what I mean? And actually, of course we're
1097
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:28.760
so lucky. Of course we are.
1098
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.039
Yeah, we get to sleep on the floor listening to
1099
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:32.599
an old woman shag a young man.
1100
00:41:32.619 --> 00:41:33.110
Exactly.
1101
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:34.429
And I love all that.
1102
00:41:34.570 --> 00:41:37.409
Rob's met Eddie the Eagle Edwards. You love all that.
1103
00:41:37.449 --> 00:41:39.329
But there's nothing more fulfilling for me. And I never
1104
00:41:39.409 --> 00:41:40.190
thought I'd be that woman.
1105
00:41:40.230 --> 00:41:43.070
It's mad, isn't it? And has it changed your relationship
1106
00:41:43.090 --> 00:41:44.449
with work then? Yeah.
1107
00:41:44.530 --> 00:41:46.670
Would you go, I don't want to go to a
1108
00:41:47.130 --> 00:41:50.469
sweatshop and whatever or go to listen to some old
1109
00:41:50.510 --> 00:41:51.190
people fucking?
1110
00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:53.210
I want to hang out with them.
1111
00:41:53.230 --> 00:41:56.469
I think it's definitely changed the type of gigs I'm
1112
00:41:57.050 --> 00:41:59.130
saying yes to. Do you know what I mean? It's
1113
00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:02.510
like I was doing a lot abroad and often it
1114
00:42:02.550 --> 00:42:05.030
was in really sort of hostile environments and I loved it.
1115
00:42:05.090 --> 00:42:07.360
I truly loved it. I did that for all of
1116
00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:09.559
my 20s and the start of my 30s.
1117
00:42:09.579 --> 00:42:09.820
Yeah.
1118
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.539
And now it's just there are different priorities. And if
1119
00:42:12.579 --> 00:42:15.360
it doesn't work for many, then I can't do it.
1120
00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:17.110
Do you think about your safety more then?
1121
00:42:17.329 --> 00:42:19.570
Yeah, I could do with being around.
1122
00:42:19.590 --> 00:42:23.710
I have to.
1123
00:42:22.269 --> 00:42:24.329
Be around a lot more. Actually, I've turned into a
1124
00:42:24.329 --> 00:42:26.820
hypochondriac as well since having the baby because I'm so
1125
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.480
desperate to stay alive for as long as possible. Yeah,
1126
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:31.099
it's wild.
1127
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:32.840
Also, you need to evolve in what you do, because
1128
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.570
if you just do the same type of show and
1129
00:42:34.590 --> 00:42:37.550
repeat it, it becomes repetitive. You lose interest in it.
1130
00:42:37.550 --> 00:42:39.409
And then the viewer's like, well, I've sort of seen
1131
00:42:39.449 --> 00:42:41.670
her do this before. So you have to evolve with it.
1132
00:42:41.730 --> 00:42:43.550
Having a kid sometimes is a good point to help
1133
00:42:43.570 --> 00:42:45.809
you evolve as a person because you look at the
1134
00:42:45.829 --> 00:42:48.360
world differently because it's not all about you. It's about
1135
00:42:48.500 --> 00:42:50.900
other people. and then you have a slightly different perspective
1136
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:51.159
on it.
1137
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.239
Well, you're totally right. And actually, I love doing, like,
1138
00:42:53.300 --> 00:42:54.840
I do a lot of stuff like domestic stories now.
1139
00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:56.320
There's so much going on here, do you know what
1140
00:42:56.340 --> 00:42:58.199
I mean? And I've done some, like, really serious films
1141
00:42:58.219 --> 00:43:00.559
that I'm really proud of, and I've done dafter films
1142
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.099
that have been fun. It doesn't have to be one tone. Like,
1143
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.539
I think escapism's really important, and I've sort of lent
1144
00:43:05.579 --> 00:43:08.420
into that. I love being silly. Like, Minnie's silly, and
1145
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.539
I'm silly with Minnie, and not all my work has
1146
00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:13.559
to be sort of so noble. A nice mix.
1147
00:43:13.780 --> 00:43:14.380
Yeah, exactly.
1148
00:43:14.780 --> 00:43:17.000
So with the book, was that, like, a way also
1149
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.130
of going... That's something I can do from, the northwest
1150
00:43:20.170 --> 00:43:20.670
of England.
1151
00:43:20.690 --> 00:43:21.389
Do you know what I mean?
1152
00:43:21.429 --> 00:43:24.409
Like, I can still be there. I've got 12 hours
1153
00:43:24.449 --> 00:43:26.329
during the day before I go to bed at 8 p.m.
1154
00:43:27.849 --> 00:43:29.409
I've got a couple of hours in the day before
1155
00:43:29.449 --> 00:43:31.980
I go for my 12-hour sleep. How am I going
1156
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.519
to film? I mean, I started the book, actually, when
1157
00:43:34.539 --> 00:43:37.059
I was in London, and it took a long time.
1158
00:43:37.300 --> 00:43:39.820
Things always take longer, don't they, than you anticipate? Yeah.
1159
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:42.440
And you sort of stupidly think, oh, I can do
1160
00:43:42.460 --> 00:43:44.960
that from home. But actually, unless you've got silence, I
1161
00:43:44.980 --> 00:43:47.610
really procrastinate, unless it is just you.
1162
00:43:47.510 --> 00:43:47.969
At the desk.
1163
00:43:48.030 --> 00:43:50.670
So... Yeah. It took a while, but actually that's what
1164
00:43:50.690 --> 00:43:52.889
I mean. Stuff like, I sort of do different things
1165
00:43:52.909 --> 00:43:55.110
for a living now, which is really fun as well.
1166
00:43:55.289 --> 00:43:55.639
Yeah.
1167
00:43:55.780 --> 00:43:57.119
I'm in my thespian era.
1168
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:57.940
Oh, acting.
1169
00:43:58.260 --> 00:43:58.500
Yeah.
1170
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.139
Oh, you did the 2220 or whatever it's called, didn't you?
1171
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:01.840
The ghost story.
1172
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:04.300
It was so, so fun. I really thought I was
1173
00:44:04.389 --> 00:44:05.570
like Meryl Streep.
1174
00:44:05.809 --> 00:44:08.789
I'd be... absolutely terrified.
1175
00:44:09.010 --> 00:44:11.989
Have you got any background in, not because of the ghosts,
1176
00:44:12.150 --> 00:44:13.889
I mean, because of like the West End, have you
1177
00:44:13.909 --> 00:44:15.090
got any background in acting?
1178
00:44:15.110 --> 00:44:16.690
You'd be fine because you're on the stage. I mean,
1179
00:44:16.769 --> 00:44:18.860
I don't know how anyone does, stands on a stage
1180
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:22.360
and tells jokes, truly. I honestly cannot think of anything worse.
1181
00:44:22.420 --> 00:44:24.119
If someone said to me, here's a million pounds, like
1182
00:44:24.139 --> 00:44:25.920
this is a million pound contract and you've got to
1183
00:44:25.940 --> 00:44:26.960
do three nights. Yeah.
1184
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:29.239
I used to go, oh, no, because we just practice
1185
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:30.510
it a lot and we do that. And I think
1186
00:44:30.530 --> 00:44:33.250
I was in denial. It's fucking horrendous and almost impossible.
1187
00:44:33.590 --> 00:44:36.090
But for some reason, we do it. Every time I
1188
00:44:36.110 --> 00:44:38.590
go to a walkout, I go, this is mental. There's
1189
00:44:38.650 --> 00:44:40.789
no one else here. What the fuck am I doing?
1190
00:44:41.010 --> 00:44:43.349
Every night I will think, what the fuck am I
1191
00:44:43.389 --> 00:44:46.170
doing with my life? That's the words that go through
1192
00:44:46.190 --> 00:44:48.820
my head. There's an easier way to do this, surely.
1193
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.349
And that's not just with... Stand up.
1194
00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:53.909
That would be before a panel show, before anything where
1195
00:44:53.929 --> 00:44:54.909
you're like, Really?
1196
00:44:54.949 --> 00:44:57.429
Why am I doing this? Well, not for a panel show.
1197
00:44:57.449 --> 00:44:59.349
That's a piece of piss that I sat down chatting,
1198
00:44:59.389 --> 00:45:00.260
but standing on your own.
1199
00:45:00.389 --> 00:45:03.280
Oh, no, Rob, even with that, I'll think, oh, my God.
1200
00:45:03.699 --> 00:45:06.840
Stacey Glass, how's your social life then and your identity
1201
00:45:06.900 --> 00:45:10.960
as Stacey, the sort of, not just mum and TV person,
1202
00:45:10.980 --> 00:45:13.239
because you've moved up north now. You're going to bed
1203
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.710
at 8 o'clock every night. You love it, but that
1204
00:45:15.730 --> 00:45:18.030
doesn't lead a lot of time to meet people, go
1205
00:45:18.289 --> 00:45:19.989
out for dinner and drinks and stuff like that. How
1206
00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:21.929
are you balancing that, or is that out to pasture?
1207
00:45:22.070 --> 00:45:26.750
It's as hedonistic as it sounds, Rob. There's not bags
1208
00:45:26.829 --> 00:45:28.570
of time to be sort of going up.
1209
00:45:28.590 --> 00:45:29.159
But do you know what?
1210
00:45:29.179 --> 00:45:31.199
To be totally honest with you, I've never been, like,
1211
00:45:31.420 --> 00:45:32.340
on the party scene.
1212
00:45:32.659 --> 00:45:33.420
You know what I mean?
1213
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:35.360
Like, I get invited to all these do's and, like,
1214
00:45:35.380 --> 00:45:39.730
these showbiz events, and it's just... It's not totally my bag, actually.
1215
00:45:39.769 --> 00:45:43.409
I think I've got something on next Friday. Look at me.
1216
00:45:43.469 --> 00:45:45.199
I've got something on next Friday.
1217
00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:46.920
Go on, Stace. What have you got on next Friday?
1218
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:47.179
12 days away.
1219
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:47.349
Go on.
1220
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:47.420
Ha!
1221
00:45:47.420 --> 00:45:47.659
Ha!
1222
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.440
Go on what's that well.
1223
00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:55.840
I love the boxing so I'm gonna go down Royal
1224
00:45:55.900 --> 00:45:59.300
Albert Hall and it's Lauren Price and Natasha Jonas nice
1225
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.320
so I'm really excited about that because I'm gonna make
1226
00:46:01.369 --> 00:46:03.789
a night of it which is obviously we're talking about
1227
00:46:03.789 --> 00:46:06.670
12 days in advance because I'm so boring I'm gonna
1228
00:46:06.690 --> 00:46:09.349
go to St. Sweet go with my pal have a
1229
00:46:09.369 --> 00:46:11.590
lovely evening stay in a nice hotel have a nice
1230
00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:14.440
weekend but the point is I have to prepare everything
1231
00:46:14.460 --> 00:46:16.829
yeah like all mum's But I don't mind it. I
1232
00:46:17.030 --> 00:46:19.150
don't feel like I'm missing out. I'm 38. I don't
1233
00:46:19.190 --> 00:46:21.090
mind being in the house. I'm much more happy here,
1234
00:46:21.130 --> 00:46:23.869
to be honest. I'm happier at home than trying to
1235
00:46:23.889 --> 00:46:25.690
get into the Brit Awards after party.
1236
00:46:25.849 --> 00:46:28.889
Can you tell us, when you interviewed all these people
1237
00:46:28.909 --> 00:46:31.550
for the book, these mums, what was the kind of
1238
00:46:31.610 --> 00:46:32.989
story that, I mean, obviously you don't want to pick
1239
00:46:33.030 --> 00:46:34.570
a favourite, but what was the one that kind of
1240
00:46:34.610 --> 00:46:35.530
blew you away the most?
1241
00:46:35.630 --> 00:46:39.570
Yeah, they're all impressive stories. for different reasons there was
1242
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:41.699
always like a common thread where we're all just trying
1243
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.559
to figure it out you know I mean and that
1244
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.039
fundamentally we're just trying to sort of do our best
1245
00:46:46.619 --> 00:46:48.500
that felt like the kind of thread that sort of
1246
00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:51.610
runs through the conversations and the letters in the book
1247
00:46:52.309 --> 00:46:53.750
but I mean some of them are really funny like
1248
00:46:53.769 --> 00:46:55.889
there's this girl she sort of talks about she's going
1249
00:46:55.929 --> 00:46:59.050
on holiday and a water's break on the dance floor
1250
00:46:59.150 --> 00:47:02.380
and that all feels very sort of funny there's no
1251
00:47:02.420 --> 00:47:04.699
sort of lighter moments where it's all just oh god
1252
00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:08.190
yeah and then there's really sort of poignant points made
1253
00:47:08.289 --> 00:47:12.050
about people starting new lives here in the uk and
1254
00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:15.949
people really struggling with diagnoses and people not being able
1255
00:47:15.969 --> 00:47:17.960
to come home with their baby it's a real sort
1256
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.360
of varied look at what it means to be in
1257
00:47:20.380 --> 00:47:22.659
mum and that's what we wanted to do but ultimately
1258
00:47:22.699 --> 00:47:24.929
I did want it to feel sort of celebratory I'd
1259
00:47:24.949 --> 00:47:26.889
done two prior and one of them was looking at
1260
00:47:26.909 --> 00:47:29.130
like women on the front line the women I'd met
1261
00:47:29.170 --> 00:47:31.179
over the years and then one about the mental health
1262
00:47:31.219 --> 00:47:34.340
crisis I did two films in a mental health hospital.
1263
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.909
So I really hope that people like it. But let's see.
1264
00:47:37.949 --> 00:47:38.429
Do you know what?
1265
00:47:38.469 --> 00:47:40.829
That is the best attitude you could ever have to
1266
00:47:41.110 --> 00:47:41.909
releasing anything.
1267
00:47:41.989 --> 00:47:42.429
Let's see.
1268
00:47:42.449 --> 00:47:44.690
I hope people like it, but let's see. Or maybe
1269
00:47:44.829 --> 00:47:45.429
don't even see.
1270
00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:47.469
It's done now. Just go to bed. Is it out
1271
00:47:47.510 --> 00:47:48.409
now or is it out soon?
1272
00:47:48.630 --> 00:47:50.500
No, it comes out Mother's Day. There you go.
1273
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:52.900
Oh, you know what you're fucking doing.
1274
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:56.199
Stacey, we always finish with one question about your partner.
1275
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.699
It's not about your partner every week, but our guest partner.
1276
00:47:59.139 --> 00:48:00.900
What's the one thing that he does as a parent
1277
00:48:00.929 --> 00:48:02.550
you're like, oh my God, he's amazing. I couldn't do
1278
00:48:02.590 --> 00:48:04.570
that without you. Or what's one thing he does where
1279
00:48:04.590 --> 00:48:06.630
you go, that's actually quite annoying. And if you were
1280
00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:08.530
to listen... I want to say it and get it
1281
00:48:08.550 --> 00:48:09.920
off my chest and he can stop doing it.
1282
00:48:10.050 --> 00:48:12.090
Oh, okay. You can answer in either order.
1283
00:48:12.329 --> 00:48:16.289
I mean, he is, and again, I'm so mindful, bombarding
1284
00:48:16.309 --> 00:48:18.630
you with clichés. He is a fucking brilliant dad. Actually,
1285
00:48:18.670 --> 00:48:21.349
he is pretty knockout. He's great with the baby. And
1286
00:48:21.530 --> 00:48:23.239
what he's good at, which I'm not very good at,
1287
00:48:24.110 --> 00:48:26.360
He's good at getting her to sleep. For example, last night,
1288
00:48:26.389 --> 00:48:28.119
she sort of went playing ball. She won't go to sleep.
1289
00:48:28.340 --> 00:48:29.639
And I think it's because we were both here.
1290
00:48:29.659 --> 00:48:30.360
Yeah.
1291
00:48:30.820 --> 00:48:32.019
And I was saying, baby, you're going to have to
1292
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:33.599
go to bed. Now it's really late. If you won't
1293
00:48:33.619 --> 00:48:36.639
have enough energy to go soft play, the usual. And
1294
00:48:36.739 --> 00:48:39.539
she went, mum, I've got to get up. I've got
1295
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:42.219
to buy a radiator. I've got to buy a bed.
1296
00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:44.699
I've got to buy a door. Just talking this nonsense.
1297
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:45.820
I texted him. I was like, you're going to have
1298
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:47.280
to come get this child. Like she will not go
1299
00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:50.280
to sleep. He's really good at walking around. He'll sing
1300
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:50.719
to her.
1301
00:48:50.780 --> 00:48:51.420
He can sing.
1302
00:48:51.460 --> 00:48:52.480
Yeah. We know that, Josh.
1303
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:53.599
We know that, yeah.
1304
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.280
So, yeah, he'll sing Razzle Dazzle. No, he won't. He'll
1305
00:48:56.300 --> 00:48:58.400
sing Enter Sleep. He's good at that, and I'm not great.
1306
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.980
But he's useless. He can't cook.
1307
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:02.300
Oh, really? Oh, really.
1308
00:49:02.340 --> 00:49:05.219
So he's got the baby. She'll have pesto pasta. She'll
1309
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.769
have a yoghurt in the morning and then a pouch
1310
00:49:09.130 --> 00:49:09.969
or a hit meal.
1311
00:49:10.510 --> 00:49:11.170
Really? Yeah.
1312
00:49:11.309 --> 00:49:13.429
So are you cooking proper meals for Minnie then?
1313
00:49:13.630 --> 00:49:15.389
Well, I'm trying. I mean, I'm not brilliant, but I
1314
00:49:15.389 --> 00:49:16.030
can do more than.
1315
00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:18.059
Well, mine are still just on plain pasta and bread.
1316
00:49:18.139 --> 00:49:19.019
They don't like anything.
1317
00:49:19.139 --> 00:49:20.320
That's so hard, isn't it?
1318
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.849
I took them Nando's, right, and got them the plain chicken.
1319
00:49:23.210 --> 00:49:24.670
Yeah. It is called plain.
1320
00:49:24.710 --> 00:49:27.130
Like, literally, there's one that's, like, a bit spicy for kids,
1321
00:49:27.210 --> 00:49:29.150
and one is, like, this is fully plain. I got
1322
00:49:29.170 --> 00:49:30.889
a separate knife and fork to cut it up with
1323
00:49:30.929 --> 00:49:33.380
so that my hot one didn't go on there. And
1324
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:34.699
I did it, and I cut it up, and then
1325
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.539
she went... and spat it outside drinking water like I'd
1326
00:49:37.699 --> 00:49:38.500
poured bleach.
1327
00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:39.780
In her mouth. How could you?
1328
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.239
They can't handle any spice or flavour, my kids.
1329
00:49:42.260 --> 00:49:45.360
You know what's so funny, though, and this is very
1330
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:46.780
off-brand for me, I've got to say, but she's got
1331
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:50.960
a very middle-class palate. She likes salmon, anchovies and capers.
1332
00:49:51.219 --> 00:49:54.579
What's she, a fucking cat? She tried olives.
1333
00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:55.739
She does love olives.
1334
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:57.780
That sounds like her ballpark olives, doesn't it?
1335
00:49:58.219 --> 00:50:01.329
Yeah, it does feel like she's going to enjoy an olive. Stacey,
1336
00:50:01.349 --> 00:50:02.929
thank you so much. Good luck with the book and stuff.
1337
00:50:02.949 --> 00:50:04.590
Sounds like you're having a great time, so keep it up.
1338
00:50:04.650 --> 00:50:05.590
Thanks for speaking to us.
1339
00:50:05.730 --> 00:50:07.119
Thank you, you guys. Bye-bye.