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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and
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I discuss what it's really like to be a parent.
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Which I would say can be a little tricky. So,
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to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the
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trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll
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be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.
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Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be
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hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice, and
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of course, tales of parenting woe.
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Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when
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none of us know what we're doing.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with.
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Grace, can you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett.
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And can you say Josh Whittacombe?
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Josh Whittacombe.
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Good girl, that was great.
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Smash that.
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There we go. I should apologise. I've got the window
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open again, Rob.
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This is going to be a running theme throughout the summer.
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When I lived in London, like busy London, the heat
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is in a heat wave. It's unbearable because there's no
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breeze because all the buildings are so high. And if
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you've got a certain room that just gets to sun
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in the afternoon.
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You're dead. It feels when you go out in the street,
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it feels like, you know, like when you see footage
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of like New York in the 80s and people are
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break dancing on. I'm like pieces of cardboard. Yeah. And
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you just think that looks too hot for my tastes.
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That's what it feels like. Hi, Josh, Rob and Michael.
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This is my two-year-old daughter, Grace, absolutely nailing the intro,
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clearly to my surprise, based on my high-pitched response. The
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podcast kept me sane as a geriatric in quotes, parent,
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especially seeing that everyone is struggling with the same shit.
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Stay sexy and relatable. Darren, uh, 585 months fucking house.
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That's what? 52 or something. And in man, who is
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584 months. So that's 52 ish as well.
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So talking about getting older dads, there's a guy in
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my gig the other night. He's got an 18-year-old. Oh,
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window's going down again.
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What's happened? It's just there's an air show or something.
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There's some kind of something going on. We're not in
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a flight path, so it's some kind of military thing. Oh, gosh. Yeah.
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You know, he had an 18-year-old son, an 8-year-old son,
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and a 16-month son. Are you staring down the barrel
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of 40 years of being a parent to a child?
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That is something else. Isn't it? Email in with your
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longest chain. How long have you gone in years with
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an under 18? That's got to be the record, isn't it? So, Rob,
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the last episode ended with the house music coming. It
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was my gardeners. I went down to have a word.
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Your own gardeners were playing house music? Yeah. So these gardeners, Rob,
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can I be honest? Go on. They're too fit for
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my tastes. Right.
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And they've been topless all week.
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Right, well, but you exclusively hire female gardeners.
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You've always done it. It's a quality thing.
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They keep playing in the sprinklers, Rob.
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It's very distracting.
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Could you wash the car as well?
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I've got some denim shorts for you. How, right, talk
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me through age.
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Two guys in their late 20s.
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Late 20s. Mediterranean complexions. Oh, yeah. And both ripped. I
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said to Rose, they're both ripped. And she said, One
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more than the other. And I was like, all right. Also,
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when she said one more than the other, I thought
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if you think one of these two isn't ripped, what
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you must think of my body is fucking crazy.
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I tell you what, there is no better tan than
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the scaffolder in the summer. The scaffolder in the summer
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in a heat wave or the guy that hires out
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jet skis on the beach.
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That guy is always the most tan man ever.
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Well, you should come to my garden, Rob. It's like
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diet coke break all day long. It's unbelievable. Oh, sorry.
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I've just got to give the keys to my tour manager.
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One second.
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So what keys are you giving your room? My tour
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manager's top is in my car.
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So what?
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And his pants are in my drawers. No, he needed
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to get.
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Something out of the car. I had the car key.
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Why did you have the car key?
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Because I'm using it later to visit a friend.
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Oh, I see.
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As much as I love one of the best, if
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not the best hotel in Swansea, if I stayed in
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there all day, we're in trouble.
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Yeah, yeah. We're back to gab. And it would be
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weird if you got your tour manager to drive you
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to lunch with your friend. Yeah, yeah.
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And sit in the car and wait. Some people do
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that though.
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Naming no names. Yeah. Naming no names.
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So, so the topless and they're in the garden and
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how long are they here for?
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Three weeks. Do you know what?
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I feel like the next episode I'll be like, what's
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that laughing in the garden? And it'd be like Lou
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Rose and Tom Allen all sat there having a drink.
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So Rob, yeah. You know, we've got a shed at
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the bottom of our garden. It's got some weights in it.
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Is that where you do your Peloton? Uh, yeah.
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How's your Peloton going?
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Uh, I wouldn't say we're breaking even.
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No.
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I wanted to do the weights yesterday, but I thought
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I just can't do it. I just can't.
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I can't go into the garden with these two beefcakes.
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No, that was the correct decision. So I went for
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a run in the tropical heat because I wanted to
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do exercise, but I just couldn't.
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Well, because I've just started trying to run outside and
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it's impossible when it's hot. I can see why all
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these people fainted at the marathon.
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I almost shat myself the other day. I thought I'll
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go for a run around the park in this kind
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of heat. And I started to get the shivers and
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I thought I'm going to shit myself here.
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Why?
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Why? Because the heat was too much for me. I've
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never heard, I'm so hot I could shit. Have you
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shat yourself?
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No, it's vomit.
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Have you ever shat yourself because you're too hot?
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No, it's not too hot. It's because you're exercising in
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the heat. Like Gary Lineker against the Republic of Ireland. No,
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that's not.
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It's got to be a stomach problem. I did a video,
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some filming with Daniel Dubois, you know the boxer?
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Right, he's going to go out in a few weeks.
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And we were training in his training camp, and he
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trains in this metal barn, and it was on one
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of those 30-degree days.
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Then they got me in the ring, and they were
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training me. But it was so hot, I thought I
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was going to be sick or faint. My legs were
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all going, I was yourself.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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No.
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No.
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Or shit yourself.
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And I was like, oh, I feel a bit faint,
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you know, and the geese went, well, that's why we've
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got a sick bucket.
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If you're going to be sick, just be sick and
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you carry on.
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Or a toilet if you need a poo. No. There
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was no poo bucket. That's what I'm saying. You're not listening, Josh.
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That's what I'm saying. I don't think people get too
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hot and shit themselves.
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Paula Radcliffe. Paula Radcliffe didn't shit herself because it was
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too hot. Wasn't it in China and it was too hot? No.
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I can't believe I'm Googling this. Why did Paula Radcliffe
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shit herself?
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I'll do, where did Paula Radcliffe shit herself? Between us,
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we'll find out. It'd be great if we had Paula
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Radcliffe on the show, though.
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Oh, wow.
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At the London Marathon, it was.
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Runner's Diarrhoea. That's what I had. I had Runner's Diarrhoea.
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What's Runner's Diarrhoea? A common issue for long-distance runners. How
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far would you run?
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3K.
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And then the runner's diarrhoea kicked in, so I had
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to call it quits. Right. What is runner's diarrhoea, then?
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It's a common issue for long-distance runners, and she had
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to stop during a race. Nick, can I ask you
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a question?
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Nick, have you ever been running? Where does it come from?
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Nick's just dropped his shirt back. Nick, have you ever...
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Josh nearly shit himself because he was too hot.
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Have you ever had that? No, no, no, because I
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was running. Because I was running. Nick says yes. Oh,
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good on you, Nick. Was you running, Nick, or exercising?
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Or would you... You're running and you're too hot and
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you need to shit yourself. Okay, fair enough.
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Cheers, Nick.
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That's backfired for me. I haven't backfired, I'll tell you
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that for free. Cheers, Nick. Do you know what?
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I stand corrected. Maybe it's a running thing.
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Maybe it's a running thing.
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I'll go running today and I'll let you know whether.
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Or not it's true. Josh, I've been really hot. Hottest
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I've ever been. Right, when's the hottest you've ever been?
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I remember when we did the last leg. What I
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would describe as the ill-fated last leg down under documentary.
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Every TV show has got a few spinoffs that never work. Yeah.
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We went to a, like an Opal, like, you know, Opal,
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the kind of gem.
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Yeah. An Opal mine in the middle of presumably like
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the Australian desert.
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On a morning. I mean, it didn't help that we
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were hung over. I think probably, I don't remember where
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they were, but I'm sure we were. I vividly remember
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just standing outside that and looking at the sound man
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and And he had to have, you know, like a
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beekeeper style, like hat on from the sun because the
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flies were so bad. Oh God. And it was so hot.
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And I remember thinking, this isn't, this isn't for me.
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Did you shit?
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I didn't shit myself.
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No. I think maybe when we went to Dubai for
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our tour show, it was pretty hot outside.
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That's probably about 45.
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Yeah, my glasses steamed up when I walked outside in Dubai.
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The hottest I've ever been, though, is I once lived
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in London and one of them tiny little courtyard gardens.
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It was a heatwave at 33 degrees and I was
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doing a barbecue, but I was barbecuing in direct sunlight
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with a barbecue in front of me. And I got so,
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we were supposed to be going out that night, but
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I got so ill and hot that I got prickly
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heat and had to go home.
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Do you know what, Rob? Manning the coconut shire last
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year's school fete was pretty intense. And this year I volunteered,
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but I said it has to be in the shade.
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And I've been put on the cake stall. He's got demands.
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He's got a rider.
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I was like, I'm willing to help, but please not
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in the sun again.
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I couldn't handle it. Did you get your agent to
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negotiate that deal? Yeah.
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Well, let us know the hottest you've ever been.
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Let us know the hottest you've ever been. But do
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you know who is hot, Rob? Who? In the comedy world,
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Jack Skipper is piping hot.
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He's absolutely... Do you know what? Good looking guy as well.
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He wouldn't be misplaced doing your garden with his top off.
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He wouldn't be misplaced.
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Oh, get your top off and get out there and
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lay some bloody flagstones.
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What have you been doing in the garden? AstroTurf up.
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We're getting rid of the AstroTurf. Yeah. Because, full disclosure, Rob. Yeah.
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Lawns are not a thing in Hackney. You've just got
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to admit it. You've just got to admit to yourself.
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Yeah, you can't have a little grass that just turns
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into a mud pile, doesn't it?
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You can't have mud grass and the AstroTurf.
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We're getting it replaced with a nice paved thing. Exactly.
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Because AstroTurf, I'm going to say, is the worst of
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both worlds. Exactly.
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It's almost carpet for outdoors, which brings us nicely onto
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Jack Skipper, ex-carpet fitter, now comedy superstar, and most.
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Importantly, parent. Welcome to the show, Jack. Enjoy it. Hello,
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Jack Skipper.
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Welcome to the show. Thanks for doing this, mate.
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That's all right. No worries.
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Nice to see you as well, Josh.
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Jack, the reason this has come about possibly is I
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said to you that I didn't know whether you'd done
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the podcast.
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Yeah.
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I presumed you had. This is how little I follow
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the podcast.
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I presumed we'd already interviewed you.
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You were talking like I'd been on it, and it
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was a bit awkward.
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Yeah. Great episode, Jack. Did you see enough turning ticket
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sales from it?
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Yeah, you need to get me on, mate.
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How many kids you got, Jack? Let's start with that.
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What's the kid set up?
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I've got two kids.
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I've got my daughter, who's nine, and my boy, who's
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11 on.
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Saturday, actually.
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Oh, Sunday. This Sunday.
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What are you doing for it?
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I'm taking him and three of his mates bowling and
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then for dinner.
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Absolute peak.
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How many seconds did you think of that for?
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That's the thing though, with kids nowadays, that's like a
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normal Saturday, isn't it?
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It's spoiled.
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I was talking to my brother about this yesterday. I
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remember his 10th birthday for a treat. We went down
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the park. That was like a treat. It might have
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been a boring day for my kids. I did a
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thing on this yesterday on Instagram. I was talking about it.
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Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. The difference between...
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And I totally said to me that you were basically
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saying that when you were a kid, you'd go to
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what your parents did. And now the weekends are you
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doing what your children want to do. That's it.
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You just have to go along and make your own fun.
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I was thinking this.
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You know one of the biggest treats for me when
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I was a kid, right? Going with my dad to
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collect the Chinese. That was like a proper treat. Because
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my dad, your dad's a cabbie, isn't he, Rob?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, because you used to have the old cabs and
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it didn't have a.
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Seat in the front.
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We used to sit in the footwell if the back
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was full.
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Yeah, that was a treat for me. I could collect
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the Chinese. I could sit in the footwell.
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Yeah, because he doesn't have a seat. It's for luggage,
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isn't it?
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But yeah, I've sat in one of them all the
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way back from central London before because all my aunties
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are in the back.
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So there wasn't enough space. Where are you facing? I
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can't believe I'm asking this. When you're sitting in the
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footwell of a black cab. Cross-legged facing the glove box,
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whatever it is in front of you. So you're facing forwards,
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but you can't see out the window? No, not at all.
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Nothing.
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Fucking hell. So if he breaks, that's an absolute nightmare, right?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Is there a glove box? Yeah, yeah.
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But you get told off for opening that.
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As long as you're not sort of changing direction or
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braking or accelerating, you're all right. And as you know,
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black cab drivers are so chilled of the way they drive.
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They're never trying to find a little back route or
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go this way or that way.
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So it's absolutely fine.
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But I was thinking this though. I do think like kids,
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they are a bit like, little bit more spoiled nowadays
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I know they get more but I do think they
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do enjoy the little things they're the core memories sort
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of stuff I mean like I only did it last
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night I only had my son yesterday because my little
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girl was at a cheerleading competition and we like as
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a treat my boy he just wanted for dinner he
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wanted picky.
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Bits is he a 52 year old divorcee laughing Just
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come back from Greece and now they're into Mezza.
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Little scotch eggs. He wanted that.
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Do you know what I mean?
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He's had it on the bed and watched Robin Hood,
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Prince of Thieves.
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Oh, wow. How's that aged? Oh, it's all right.
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It's still really good. He enjoyed it. He was going,
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I love this.
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Yeah, it's so simple.
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Where we live now in the countryside, so you can't
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really ride your bike without like being absolutely hammered by
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a car coming past on a little single track. So
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on my new car, I can get the bikes in
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the car. So I took them to the park. I
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was like, well, I can't keep up with them. So
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I went for, I tried to go for a run
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with them. So I was just running, doing laps of
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the park while they were on their bikes. And I
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was like, you can go as far as you want
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that way, come back as far as you want. And
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they were just like belting it up and down. And
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next I was like, dad, that was the best day ever.
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And it's like just a bike at the park.
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They were buzzing.
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I even do it sometimes.
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I know they've like had a day where I think,
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especially my son, is he going to sleep well? I
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actually get him doing hill sprints. oh really just to
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wear him out he thinks it's really fun I'll time
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you I'll run up that hill I'll run back I'll
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just time him just completely.
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Wear him out and that works he's into that yeah
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he's into it yeah he loves it because 11's a
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weird age isn't it because there's a sort of they're
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so like childlike and young still or they just start
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to become like road men it's like a real like
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the classic Kevin and Perry sketch yeah yeah it was
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that overnight switch where they become a bit miserable and
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distant and stuff like that but Is he still at
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that sort of like, you're idolising your stage?
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Yeah, he's impressed by anything I do.
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It's ridiculous. Is he?
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Well, yeah, recently I made him a full English breakfast
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for dinner. He's like Charlie walking into the chocolate factory.
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This guy's shape shifts. He does breakfast at dinner.
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It's like a savoury Willy Wonka.
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When they film little things like that, it's naughty. They
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love it, don't they? Like when it's something, it's just so,
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you know, and you go, yeah, I can do that.
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They're like, oh my God, eggs now.
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I can see him changing, but it's like changing for
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the better. He's like, I sometimes look at my son
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and think, oh, he's cool. He's like, he's probably like,
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cause I'm getting him into like, he's been doing Brazilian
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jujitsu now for like seven months.
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Yeah.
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I think it's like, has actually changed him the way
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he's like, cause they see.
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He talks Portuguese now, doesn't he? He talks Portuguese, yeah.
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But even like the trainers down the like they said
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because I've never done it they said that sport is
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really good for like staying calm under pressure yeah you've
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got someone like getting you in a chokehold you're there
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trying to work out how to get out of it
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and I think I have seen a change in him
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like he's mellowed out a little bit.
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He's not gone the other way where he's swaggering about
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thinking he's hard it's more that he's just being calmer.
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I think That Brazilian jiu-jitsu, I don't think that happens.
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I was at a play fight with my son.
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And you let him win. He got me in this chokehold.
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I was like, fuck.
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Couldn't get out of it.
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I was like, no, that's all right.
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He's like, no, you caught me off guard. You caught
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me off guard, mate.
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Is it weird? I don't know how deep you go
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within seven months, but have you had to watch him
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being beaten up?
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Well, yeah, you see him like, Things are, when you
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watch it, it's so technical. I don't know what's going on. Like,
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I don't know.
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It's no striking, is it? It's just all, like, holding
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and submissions.
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Right, right, right.
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And you never put full pressure on it. Like, it's
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not like you sort of get it in place and
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then they sort of just tap.
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So it's not like boxing where you'd watch him being
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punched in the face kind of thing.
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Well, at the time, it looks like they're getting hurt.
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They just tap, so it's fine. But I think it's
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one of the best things about it. If you get
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your kids into an activity where you ain't got a
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clue what it's about, I think it's actually better. Because, like,
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I've got half an idea about football. So I think
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if I was watching him do football... You'd have that
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little tendency to start shouting.
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Out like, I'm terrible for that.
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I try not to, even if I'm just being encouraging,
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I'll never be negative, but even the encouragement's too much.
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Whereas my daughter does, plays guitar, right? She plays guitar
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and I haven't got a musical bone in my body.
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Get your fucking finger on the fourth fret, you prick.
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I don't even know what threat is, like nothing. So
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I love it because I just sit and watch in awe.
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Whereas in football, I'm a bit like, get in the
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fucking space, pull, and I'm like, shut up, Rob. I
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hate myself when I'm watching my kids play football.
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Imagine when your kids start getting into standup and you're
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just from the sidelines going.
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No, no, no. Observation, observation.
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Pull back and reveal.
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Get to the fucking punchline. For God's sake. Why are
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you asking the audience if they've ever been to Pratt?
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You don't need that bit. Just say you were in Pratt.
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We all know what Pratt is. We all know what
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Pratt is. And if they don't, asking them is not
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going to help. Don't be afraid to do an act out.
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You've got good accents. Use them. All of it's showing off.
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Don't worry. Jack, you took your son. How core memory
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is this? So for people that aren't aware of football,
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Crystal Palace have never won a trophy. Is that right?
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And then they were playing Man City who, while they
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didn't win the league, are the biggest team probably in
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the world or Europe, certainly financially. And you played them
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in the FA Cup final and you took your son
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and you won. And I saw you the day of
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the semi-final and you were very excited. What was that
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day like? Were you with your dad as well?
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Yeah, mate. It was the three generations, plus my brother
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as well. I can't talk enough about how amazing it was.
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Did your daughter go? Was she not into it?
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I said, do you want to go?
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She was like, no, I don't want to. She had
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the option.
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She's like that. She just says, nah.
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You want to go?
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This is quite a big family memory. You said to
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me you weren't going to offer her a ticket because
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you didn't think girls should like football.
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I'd say that was between me and you, Josh.
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I thought... You said it was unladylike. That was the
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words you used. They shouldn't be there. She had the option.
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Yeah, she had the option.
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So what was it like? It was amazing. It was tense.
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It was like that.
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It was really tense.
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But I don't know if you saw the video, but
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seeing my son with like, because there was tension when
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that whistle went, him with tears of joy.
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I didn't know how to like.
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Oh my God.
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Because he's only just started getting into football as well.
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Are you worried he's been spoiled?
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With that? Oh, yeah.
496
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He's not had many years of hurt, really.
497
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You know what I mean?
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It's like straight away, 10 years old, he's watching his
499
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team win the FA Cup final.
500
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Oh, that's an amazing experience, though. I'm real.
501
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I was on a high for ages after that.
502
00:19:37.099 --> 00:19:39.680
You can pay for things, can't you, to go to
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amazing holidays, amazing experiences.
504
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You can't plan that.
505
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You can't pay the outcome.
506
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That's why live sports is so intoxicating and why it's
507
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so huge.
508
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People can pay for subscription stuff.
509
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You can access stuff whenever you want, but you can't
510
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access victory.
511
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Do you know what I mean?
512
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It just happens if it happens.
513
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If you take the things I've taken my daughter to,
514
00:19:57.789 --> 00:20:01.930
Taylor Swift, it was unlikely to play out any different
515
00:20:01.950 --> 00:20:04.869
than you're not like yeah yeah yeah fucking hell yeah
516
00:20:04.890 --> 00:20:08.190
she fucking brought it tonight half the time she's shit
517
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do you know what I mean like.
518
00:20:09.549 --> 00:20:11.519
Yeah yeah I think that's the thing with having like
519
00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.519
a son and a daughter with my son I can
520
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just sort of I can get into his world sort
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of straight away do you know what I mean like
522
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if he's anything like I remember being like in football
523
00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:19.859
when I was a kid or anything if he's like
524
00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.420
crashing two cars together I'm like yeah I get that
525
00:20:22.539 --> 00:20:24.759
I sort of understand that mentality but what's lovely about
526
00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:27.220
having a daughter though is like I'm learning her world
527
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as well because I grew up in quite a masculine
528
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environment I mean it was just like my dad my.
529
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Brother I'm exactly the same as you four brothers it
530
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was all football and lads and now like it's actually
531
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I'm loving the sort of novelty of going oh this
532
00:20:38.180 --> 00:20:41.039
whole other world that exists that I had no idea
533
00:20:41.099 --> 00:20:42.619
about it.
534
00:20:42.099 --> 00:20:44.119
Was my when I had the kids I had to
535
00:20:44.140 --> 00:20:46.690
take her to a Christmas choir right she didn't have
536
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a pretty bow to put in her hair. She was
537
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having a bit of a meltdown. That's not like my
538
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lived experience. I don't know the importance of the pretty
539
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bow in the hair. And I was like, oh shit, fuck.
540
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But now every year I'm like, you are getting the
541
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prettiest bow.
542
00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:02.640
Also, what is a pretty bow? How big does it
543
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need to be? What color? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joey.
544
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But I love learning about it.
545
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Get a massive one for a new car.
546
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You will have the best pretty bow.
547
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In the class.
548
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But it's also, it's like, I like doing this thing
549
00:21:14.579 --> 00:21:16.140
as well. When she comes home from school with like,
550
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Because my boy comes over to school, he's like, he
551
00:21:18.059 --> 00:21:20.440
don't really talk. So say a drama's happened to her
552
00:21:20.460 --> 00:21:24.099
that day, like a friend's boring her ruler without asking
553
00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:26.240
or something like that, right? Yeah, instead of going like, oh,
554
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that's all right. I'm like, you're joking, aren't you? I
555
00:21:31.339 --> 00:21:33.160
get well into it, do you know what I mean?
556
00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:33.619
She did what?
557
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.589
Because it's their world, isn't it? That's important.
558
00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:40.309
I've got that kind of situation where my daughter is
559
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in a three, like friendship kind of triangle. Well, there's
560
00:21:44.390 --> 00:21:47.059
four of them actually, and they're very tight friends. But
561
00:21:47.660 --> 00:21:51.250
it's constant. It's not mean girls, but there's constant politics.
562
00:21:51.309 --> 00:21:54.250
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And you
563
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have to remember that this really matters to her in
564
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the same way that it would matter to one of
565
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.809
us if we thought a comedian... said something shitty to
566
00:22:04.849 --> 00:22:08.210
us backstage or something. But in your head, sometimes you
567
00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:10.430
are going, oh, for fuck's sake, do you not remember
568
00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:12.380
last week? We've literally, you know.
569
00:22:12.859 --> 00:22:14.859
Or who they're sat next to at lunch. He's like,
570
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:16.660
I was in a dinner queue and then I got
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pushed back because my potato wasn't ready.
572
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So then I didn't get to sit. And you're like,
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oh my God, who gives a fuck? Oh God, sorry
574
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about that.
575
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I do recommend though, do it the other way.
576
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We'll go over the top of your enthusiasm for it.
577
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Just be like, what?
578
00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:29.630
You had to wait for a potato? Without a bow
579
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in your hair? Yeah.
580
00:22:30.829 --> 00:22:32.410
But it's weird though my two daughters one of my
581
00:22:32.450 --> 00:22:34.329
daughters is a bit more like that where she's got
582
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a friendship group there's always a little bit of to
583
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and fro they all get on but there's always like
584
00:22:37.859 --> 00:22:39.799
so and so did this I played with that but
585
00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:41.920
my eldest one she's just sort of friends of everyone
586
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and floats around if I say something to her she's
587
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like yeah fine like I don't know if it's just
588
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a straight gender thing or, you know, she has done that.
589
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No politics whatsoever. Almost to a point where I'm like,
590
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do you just like wander about not talking to anyone?
591
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What's going on? You need to get in her head, Rob.
592
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You need to care more about your fucking friendships. What
593
00:23:01.009 --> 00:23:02.950
is wrong with you? You should be crying about the
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fucking dinner queue.
595
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Okay.
596
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I'm very much in awe of her. I wish I
597
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was more like her, to be honest.
598
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Do you have that when you're sort of in awe
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of your kids? Do you do that when you sometimes
600
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think your kids, do you think, oh, they're cooler than me?
601
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Like they do things that are a bit like.
602
00:23:13.670 --> 00:23:15.930
Yeah, of course. But you've got to remember how cool
603
00:23:16.009 --> 00:23:18.730
I am, Jack. So there's a very low bar. I
604
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did this thing, right?
605
00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:21.019
I remember we went to Hampton Court and hired out
606
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.680
these boats, right? And sometimes if I get recognised when
607
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I'm out, people do it where they don't... Because I'm
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on people's phones.
609
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They look at me and go, what?
610
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.180
Do I know you? Right? So this bloke, he was
611
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.380
doing it to me. He was hiring the boats off him.
612
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He was going, where do I know you from? And
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I always go... I never want to go It's.
614
00:23:34.150 --> 00:23:36.789
Difficult to go It's a really difficult question.
615
00:23:36.539 --> 00:23:38.170
To answer Do you do funny things on the internet?
616
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:39.720
Yeah, yeah, yeah Do you know what I mean?
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So I just go I don't know, mate I don't
618
00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:42.779
know And my son went to me He went No,
619
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but you just tell him what you do, man You're
620
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making it awkward.
621
00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:51.500
It's made me look a right div I was like Oh.
622
00:23:51.460 --> 00:23:53.660
Yeah, sorry, mate No, just a bit of comedy Talking
623
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.440
about your comedy You've made the transition So are you
624
00:23:56.460 --> 00:23:57.380
on tour at the moment, Jack?
625
00:23:57.579 --> 00:23:59.589
Yeah, mate Yeah, yeah, yeah So what's the tour called?
626
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.490
Let's give everyone a plug Skint Skint, okay And your
627
00:24:03.529 --> 00:24:05.519
kids will have seen this as well in their lifetime.
628
00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:07.660
Yeah, because me and Rob haven't got this with our
629
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kids because we were, and I don't want to say it, Jack,
630
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.150
fucking national treasures by the time our kids were born.
631
00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:18.390
We were analogue though, on the telly, analogue known. So
632
00:24:18.589 --> 00:24:20.230
you were doing video, you were just working as a
633
00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:21.380
carpet fitter, was that right?
634
00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:22.019
Yes, yeah, yeah.
635
00:24:22.390 --> 00:24:25.210
Carpet fitter doing funny videos in your van, out of work,
636
00:24:25.230 --> 00:24:27.150
with your mates, blah, blah, blah. They gained more and
637
00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:29.359
more traction and then you was like, right, I've always
638
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:30.960
wanted to do stand-up. Let me try and do actual
639
00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:32.880
stand-up as opposed to the funny videos. You still do
640
00:24:32.900 --> 00:24:35.059
the funny videos that are great and then your stand-up
641
00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:38.000
sort of took off. You got signed by a great management.
642
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.660
You've got a great tour. You've got the materials. Now
643
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.970
you're off doing this big national tour where you're selling
644
00:24:43.009 --> 00:24:45.690
out Leicester Square Theatre, your life's changed dramatically.
645
00:24:45.710 --> 00:24:47.269
And how long have you been going? When did you
646
00:24:47.289 --> 00:24:48.549
start doing those videos?
647
00:24:48.609 --> 00:24:49.130
Four years.
648
00:24:49.190 --> 00:24:50.490
But this is a bit of the misconception of it, though.
649
00:24:50.529 --> 00:24:52.130
You're really good. Oh, thanks, mate.
650
00:24:52.150 --> 00:24:54.049
Most people are shit after four years, but you're great.
651
00:24:54.069 --> 00:24:56.670
Yeah, I don't want to, like, you know, make this awkward,
652
00:24:56.769 --> 00:25:00.440
but you often see comics come through and you're like, oh,
653
00:25:00.460 --> 00:25:02.960
they're really good for, like, I can imagine where they're
654
00:25:02.980 --> 00:25:07.400
going to get to. But you're, like, a fully realised stand-up.
655
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.359
You are, like, a proper stand-up already. Oh, thanks, mate. In, like,
656
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:12.640
you think like a standup and you speak like a
657
00:25:12.660 --> 00:25:17.380
standup and you are so good at it. It's slightly annoying, Jack.
658
00:25:18.579 --> 00:25:19.319
I don't love it.
659
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.900
People are hoping I'm shit. I just feel it.
660
00:25:24.579 --> 00:25:26.339
But also what I think is great for you is
661
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.269
what you like, your carpet fit, a working class lad
662
00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:30.970
from South London, but you've got that sort of common
663
00:25:31.029 --> 00:25:33.470
touch and man of the people energy, but also you're
664
00:25:33.690 --> 00:25:37.029
incredibly astute and intelligent with your, comedy where you're coming
665
00:25:37.069 --> 00:25:38.829
at it from about three or four different angles you're
666
00:25:38.849 --> 00:25:41.049
not one route you're not like just i'll just do
667
00:25:41.089 --> 00:25:43.190
this and say this you've got loads of different angles
668
00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:45.059
to it so when you come to your show you
669
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:46.859
can connect with you straight away because you're a normal
670
00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.779
guy with a family and kids and you know you've
671
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:50.819
lived in the real world but also you've got that
672
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.579
extra level that you need where you're coming at it
673
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:54.880
with really good comic ideas which isn't always the case
674
00:25:55.259 --> 00:25:56.849
some people can just ride out on that so it
675
00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:59.210
is brilliant and it's amazing your tour's going so well
676
00:25:59.289 --> 00:26:01.269
so well done mate where are you next where's the
677
00:26:01.309 --> 00:26:02.049
next gig.
678
00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:03.970
I'm in Brighton. I've got two nights in Brighton.
679
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Next two nights.
680
00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:07.150
I'm in Swindon, Leeds.
681
00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:08.490
Yeah. Do you know what though?
682
00:26:08.509 --> 00:26:11.470
This is the little misconception. Because the thing is, I
683
00:26:11.769 --> 00:26:14.109
wanted to do stand-up. I went to start stand-up. I
684
00:26:14.130 --> 00:26:16.880
did like a little course, comedy course. And then what happened,
685
00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:20.720
the pandemic happens. I booked in to do the showcase
686
00:26:20.779 --> 00:26:21.279
gig thing.
687
00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:22.599
What comedy course was this?
688
00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:25.079
The Jill Edwards one in Brighton. Romesh did that.
689
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:26.910
And Sean Walsh. It was a really good one.
690
00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:28.529
But I just, all I had in my head was
691
00:26:28.549 --> 00:26:30.390
stand up. And only because it was the pandemic. My
692
00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:31.569
mate said to me, like, because I used to send
693
00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:33.650
videos to my mates in WhatsApp groups, just having a laugh.
694
00:26:34.190 --> 00:26:35.829
And he was like, put it on TikTok. And I
695
00:26:35.849 --> 00:26:37.970
didn't even add TikTok. And I just downloaded it and
696
00:26:37.990 --> 00:26:38.359
started doing it.
697
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.160
It went straight away. I was getting like, that's mad.
698
00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:41.740
Do you know what my theory is on that, Jack?
699
00:26:41.900 --> 00:26:44.900
So basically, my theory is when you're working class, okay,
700
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.680
from South London, to do anything in the performing arts
701
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:51.299
space is, is proper head above the parapet who do
702
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.339
you think you are you fucking wanker right.
703
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.119
So you don't want to do that so it takes
704
00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:55.440
a long time.
705
00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:58.579
I didn't say that to you exactly so it takes
706
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.619
a lot of time to get your confidence up to
707
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.400
go against the grain so what you've really been doing
708
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.420
is you've been going four years but you've spent probably
709
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.599
the last five to ten years thinking of all these
710
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.269
jokes same as when Noel Gallagher came through he'd had
711
00:27:10.329 --> 00:27:12.180
two albums written already do you know what I mean
712
00:27:12.220 --> 00:27:13.869
he just hadn't had the opportunity to do it and
713
00:27:13.890 --> 00:27:16.690
then you've come through TikTok and live and you're smashing
714
00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:18.970
it so So you will stand up originally, but you
715
00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:21.150
use TikTok to sort of break through essentially.
716
00:27:21.289 --> 00:27:22.690
Because I think that's it. Like you two sit there
717
00:27:22.710 --> 00:27:25.430
saying you're analog. I've got the analog brain. I mean,
718
00:27:25.470 --> 00:27:27.250
I don't even know how to like edit videos, but
719
00:27:27.329 --> 00:27:29.089
it's not. And I think that's it. Like when I
720
00:27:29.109 --> 00:27:32.029
started things like blowing up online. I was having fun
721
00:27:32.069 --> 00:27:34.009
doing it. But for me, it's always been stand-up. I mean,
722
00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:37.490
I grew up watching Lee Evans VHSs. That's what I
723
00:27:37.509 --> 00:27:40.990
thought a comedian was. I think young people doing TikToks now,
724
00:27:41.690 --> 00:27:45.400
they're purely about videos and generalizing. But it's not like
725
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.079
I've gained a load of followers and I thought, oh,
726
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:48.720
I might capitalize on this and do a tour.
727
00:27:48.740 --> 00:27:49.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
728
00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:51.380
I wanted to do a tour. Then it started blowing up.
729
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:52.940
I proper care about a stand-up.
730
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:53.460
That's what it is.
731
00:27:53.779 --> 00:27:55.940
Tell me about what it's been like for your kids then.
732
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.640
So how old were they when you... So it was
733
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.589
the pandemic. So your son would have been like six
734
00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:03.849
or something, five or six when you started this. And
735
00:28:03.910 --> 00:28:07.069
what's it been like for them to watch you kind of, like,
736
00:28:07.109 --> 00:28:08.089
when did you go professional?
737
00:28:08.490 --> 00:28:11.069
About two years ago. But I think for them, like
738
00:28:11.089 --> 00:28:13.410
they don't, I think they treat it a bit differently.
739
00:28:13.509 --> 00:28:15.049
At first, they have people come up to him in
740
00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:18.190
school and stuff. And he like, is Jack Skipper your
741
00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:20.460
dad thing? But they sort of shrug it off. But
742
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.319
then I think my son quite likes it. But I
743
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.660
remember like, I went to this little local festival at
744
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:26.460
a park near me, like, you know, the little fun
745
00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:27.220
fair festival.
746
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:27.319
Yeah.
747
00:28:28.059 --> 00:28:29.740
And some woman, she was like a drunk woman, like
748
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.019
kept coming up to me trying to get a selfie,
749
00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:34.319
bit much. And my little girl, she's just like proper staring,
750
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:35.279
like cuddled onto me.
751
00:28:35.299 --> 00:28:36.460
Like staring her out.
752
00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:37.079
She didn't like it.
753
00:28:37.089 --> 00:28:37.890
It's new to them.
754
00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:38.690
Yeah. So it's a bit weird.
755
00:28:38.710 --> 00:28:39.990
So you have to try and explain that to them.
756
00:28:40.369 --> 00:28:42.069
But I did, I mean, early this year when I
757
00:28:42.109 --> 00:28:44.049
did the, Oh, did the marathon.
758
00:28:44.309 --> 00:28:45.390
Before I just drop that in there.
759
00:28:46.130 --> 00:28:46.789
Fucking A, mate.
760
00:28:46.809 --> 00:28:51.890
Well done. Quit your carpet fitting job, national tour, running marathons,
761
00:28:51.930 --> 00:28:52.390
fucking A.
762
00:28:52.390 --> 00:28:55.210
Michael, put the time code 22 to 45 for cutting.
763
00:28:55.509 --> 00:28:57.369
Anyway, I've got a relevant story to do with that.
764
00:28:57.430 --> 00:28:59.190
Yeah, go on.
765
00:29:01.589 --> 00:29:03.519
No, but basically, when you go afterwards, like, and when
766
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:05.670
you put in that little pen with like other, like,
767
00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:08.019
people doing it. And then when my kids could come
768
00:29:08.059 --> 00:29:09.819
in and they were seeing me with people off the
769
00:29:09.859 --> 00:29:10.819
telly sort of thing.
770
00:29:10.859 --> 00:29:13.049
For people that don't know, if you're doing the marathon
771
00:29:13.089 --> 00:29:15.829
and you're a celebrity, there's basically like a celebrity VIP
772
00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:18.910
section that you can go in to get ready before
773
00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:19.589
you go, isn't it?
774
00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:21.960
Compared to the rest of the public. So who's in there?
775
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.700
Talk me through some of the names in there, Skip.
776
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:24.980
That's a random mix, isn't it?
777
00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:26.839
Joel was there, Joel Dobbit, and the kids like watching
778
00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:28.579
Mars Singer and things like that. Romesh was there.
779
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:29.059
Chris Evans.
780
00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:33.950
Chris Evans. Gordon Ramsay. Ian Bill. Oh, Ian Bill. Here
781
00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:37.640
we go. Someone's from the analogue generation, aren't they? Do
782
00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:39.000
you know what?
783
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.099
Out of all the people I've met, that was the
784
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:42.880
biggest one I regret not getting a selfie with.
785
00:29:43.220 --> 00:29:46.460
Ian Beale. You'll get another chance. Don't worry about that, Skipper.
786
00:29:46.539 --> 00:29:47.619
Get in that pen next year.
787
00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:50.160
I still do like Celebrity Spot because obviously you've rubbed
788
00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:52.250
shoulders with quite big people nowadays. But the other day
789
00:29:52.269 --> 00:29:54.509
I was in Gatwick Airport and I saw Craig Fairbrass.
790
00:29:55.029 --> 00:29:56.150
Oh, he lives near me.
791
00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:59.660
I was like, oh yeah? Where's he going? Marbella?
792
00:30:01.500 --> 00:30:03.559
I love the fact that you were excited about me
793
00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:05.900
seeing someone that lives probably about eight miles from your
794
00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:08.579
house at a hotel, about airport, about 10 miles from
795
00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:08.819
your house.
796
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.440
How have the kids found it though?
797
00:30:11.509 --> 00:30:13.269
Because you're at the stage of your career now where
798
00:30:13.309 --> 00:30:15.490
me and Josh were quite lucky that the real, real
799
00:30:15.589 --> 00:30:18.680
hard graft that you're in now where you're blowing up,
800
00:30:18.690 --> 00:30:20.769
you're getting all these opportunities, that happened to us.
801
00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:23.470
Before our kids come along. Where you can't say no
802
00:30:23.490 --> 00:30:23.849
to things.
803
00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:26.650
Whereas now we've got a little bit more grace to
804
00:30:26.670 --> 00:30:27.890
be able to go, no, look, can we move that
805
00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:29.250
or do that? Or are you at the point where
806
00:30:29.349 --> 00:30:31.710
everyone's going, oh, Jack Skipper, he's great. Let's get him
807
00:30:31.769 --> 00:30:33.569
on stuff. And you don't really want to say no
808
00:30:33.910 --> 00:30:36.329
because it's your first opportunity with people. How are you
809
00:30:36.349 --> 00:30:39.059
managing that? Because we know what it's like. There's kids clubs,
810
00:30:39.099 --> 00:30:42.980
there's performances, there's football, there's dance clubs. How are you
811
00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:46.460
managing to capitalise on the career whilst keep the kids happy?
812
00:30:46.710 --> 00:30:47.490
And the family happy.
813
00:30:47.690 --> 00:30:49.490
I'll be honest, Rob, I'm still trying to work it
814
00:30:49.609 --> 00:30:50.680
out because it is hard, isn't it?
815
00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:51.210
It's tricky.
816
00:30:51.259 --> 00:30:54.180
I'm trying to like, because it's that weird thing because
817
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.380
you have an internal battle within it because like, I
818
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:58.289
work so hard and they're the reason I'm doing it.
819
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.339
Like, they're the whole reason I'm doing it. Do you
820
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:01.259
know what I mean?
821
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.029
Like, I'm not getting too deep on it. I reckon
822
00:31:03.029 --> 00:31:05.829
80% ego. I reckon 80% ego. 50-50, isn't it?
823
00:31:07.690 --> 00:31:10.569
But whereas me, like, because like, Growing up, I didn't ever,
824
00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:12.869
I don't want to get into it too much, but
825
00:31:13.269 --> 00:31:15.609
I never really had anything to fall back on.
826
00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:17.230
I had to just keep working hard.
827
00:31:17.619 --> 00:31:19.869
I didn't have time to come up for air and go,
828
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:20.920
what do I actually want to do with my life?
829
00:31:21.539 --> 00:31:23.720
From the age of 16, to keep grafting, keep grafting.
830
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.579
I didn't even have to live on my own, do
831
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.099
that sort of stuff. All I work hard for is
832
00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:30.119
for them to just have a little bit of time
833
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:30.940
on their side to.
834
00:31:30.819 --> 00:31:31.220
Go, right.
835
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:33.299
What do I want to do in my life? And
836
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:34.799
I think that's why, because I know how it feels
837
00:31:34.819 --> 00:31:35.490
when you've just got to.
838
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.059
Well, at 16, straight on that treadmill, go, right, okay,
839
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:39.750
especially if you're living on your own, I've got to
840
00:31:39.769 --> 00:31:40.190
pay bills.
841
00:31:40.470 --> 00:31:40.670
Yeah.
842
00:31:40.710 --> 00:31:41.250
I've got to work.
843
00:31:41.490 --> 00:31:43.109
And then by then, you're like, well, I haven't got
844
00:31:43.130 --> 00:31:44.369
any time to think about what I want to be
845
00:31:44.430 --> 00:31:45.829
or what I want to do because I need to
846
00:31:45.849 --> 00:31:47.839
get 800 quid out in for this month.
847
00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:48.900
Yeah, that's it. And then we go again.
848
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:50.819
And it's hard to find the space.
849
00:31:50.940 --> 00:31:52.829
It's the famous thing that working class parents tell you.
850
00:31:52.859 --> 00:31:54.900
They do the thing where they go, get yourself a trade.
851
00:31:54.940 --> 00:31:56.440
You'll always have something to fall back on. But what
852
00:31:56.460 --> 00:31:58.319
happens is you go and get a trade and you
853
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.920
don't get a chance to fall back on it because.
854
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:01.589
It's just your life.
855
00:32:01.609 --> 00:32:02.190
You're falling in on it.
856
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:02.309
Yeah.
857
00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:04.509
Do you know what I mean? It's like, that's the
858
00:32:04.529 --> 00:32:05.900
reason I work hard for them. But they're not like,
859
00:32:06.130 --> 00:32:07.589
we're going on, I'll get a little break from the
860
00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:09.609
tour in a couple of weeks. So in July, we're
861
00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:12.789
going just the three of us to Spain. That'll be like,
862
00:32:12.829 --> 00:32:15.970
you know, phones away, work away, like we're just in
863
00:32:15.990 --> 00:32:17.720
the pool with the kids. And you're co-parenting, aren't you?
864
00:32:17.730 --> 00:32:19.000
I don't know how much you want to talk about it,
865
00:32:19.009 --> 00:32:21.250
but you're co-parenting, you're not with their mum at the moment.
866
00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:23.990
So it's like balancing that time with them around the
867
00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:26.339
tour must be difficult, you know, because it's not always,
868
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:27.460
I mean, you know, I don't know what the situation
869
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.359
is like, but sometimes it's not always as easy as
870
00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:31.259
when you're together still trying to find the time. Yeah,
871
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.259
but we've got a good like co-parenting relationship. So it's
872
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.859
like we can be flexible because there is, you know,
873
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.119
there are, well, you boys know, like there's things that
874
00:32:38.140 --> 00:32:40.119
do come up last minute and we split the weeks.
875
00:32:40.890 --> 00:32:43.319
And if it's one of my nights, I'm like, I've
876
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:44.900
got to go and do this thing. But I'll always
877
00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:45.640
make up the time.
878
00:32:46.109 --> 00:32:46.789
Do you know what I mean?
879
00:32:46.809 --> 00:32:48.309
But also like, I know exactly what it's like though.
880
00:32:48.329 --> 00:32:49.589
So like, you know, you might split the week and
881
00:32:49.609 --> 00:32:51.509
if you've got a normal nine to five, you go, okay,
882
00:32:51.529 --> 00:32:53.630
well I'll pick them up Wednesday from school, have them
883
00:32:53.650 --> 00:32:56.250
through till Saturday, drop them back Sunday or whatever. But
884
00:32:56.289 --> 00:32:58.289
like when you're doing our job, you could get a
885
00:32:58.289 --> 00:33:00.210
phone call right this second. I mean, like we were
886
00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:02.410
talking earlier, Josh is doing the wheel tonight. You're on
887
00:33:02.470 --> 00:33:04.789
standby for the wheel between, aren't you? So at any
888
00:33:04.829 --> 00:33:06.470
point someone could go, right, you've got to come and
889
00:33:06.490 --> 00:33:08.410
do the wheel and it'll be a good payer and
890
00:33:08.430 --> 00:33:11.259
you can't really go, no, because you're doing it for
891
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:12.559
them because you're all, if I do that, we can
892
00:33:12.579 --> 00:33:14.839
have another holiday or, you know, this sorts Christmas out.
893
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.160
But I always worry that I'm sort of overdoing it
894
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.539
with trying to like, trying to over-explain to them. You
895
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:21.039
do know that I'm doing, do you know what I mean?
896
00:33:21.059 --> 00:33:23.680
Because they're quite, they're quite chilled anyway. They are good kids.
897
00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:24.880
I know I would say that because they're my kids,
898
00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:27.420
but like, they don't really kick up a stink about it.
899
00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:28.259
Do you know what I mean?
900
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:29.920
Like, they don't seem that bothered. And I always try
901
00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:30.589
and overdo it.
902
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.500
In their head, it probably won't be as, as long
903
00:33:33.539 --> 00:33:36.279
as you're not like consistently pulling out on their birthday
904
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.460
because you're doing, you know, Russell Kane's tour support or whatever.
905
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.609
But like, in their head, they're not adding up. My
906
00:33:43.650 --> 00:33:46.089
mum's done four days and my dad's only done three
907
00:33:46.130 --> 00:33:48.109
days this week. Do you know what I mean?
908
00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:49.910
One bit of advice I'd say, which helped me out
909
00:33:49.930 --> 00:33:51.849
when they were younger, I'd said for about two years,
910
00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:53.089
I just said no to working.
911
00:33:52.890 --> 00:33:53.430
On a Sunday.
912
00:33:53.450 --> 00:33:54.579
All right, Dan Walker.
913
00:33:54.950 --> 00:33:57.200
No, but apart from tour shows, there's not a lot
914
00:33:57.220 --> 00:34:00.519
of gigs. You're not doing club gigs. They're Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
915
00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:03.200
On Sunday, no one really does that much telly. There's
916
00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:05.759
not many telly opportunities on a Sunday. Most of it's
917
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.380
during the week on Friday, Saturday. And then that way,
918
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.570
if they know that there's an anchor point that you go,
919
00:34:09.630 --> 00:34:12.269
I can do Sundays, and you sort of corner that off,
920
00:34:12.869 --> 00:34:15.409
at least for both you and them, there's that slight consistency.
921
00:34:15.429 --> 00:34:18.219
This is why Rob is now increasingly styling his hair
922
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.179
like Jesus as well.
923
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.360
This is all part of this transformation.
924
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.059
That for me really helped because at least then I
925
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:27.780
thought well if I'm going to pick one day that
926
00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:29.579
is a good day because I won't be getting emails
927
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.199
either no one's in the office there's not much TV
928
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.400
work on there's not many and even tour shows don't
929
00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:36.079
sell that well on a Sunday or if they do
930
00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:38.300
they're a bit low energy so if you can sort
931
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.639
of try and use that to protect yourself that does help.
932
00:34:40.539 --> 00:34:42.260
And use it come to one of Rob's meetings and
933
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.090
you're just going to chat about the meaning of life
934
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.489
right there's no pressure.
935
00:34:46.449 --> 00:34:48.829
It is so hard and I really empathise with Jack
936
00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:51.090
I feel like Jack's going through what I went through
937
00:34:51.150 --> 00:34:52.889
about 8-10 years ago do you know who.
938
00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:55.889
Had empathy Rob Our Lord Jesus Christ would love it.
939
00:34:55.929 --> 00:34:56.699
He did.
940
00:34:57.190 --> 00:34:59.590
Just, look, Jack, bring the kids to my house every Sunday.
941
00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:00.809
There's a few people that meet up.
942
00:35:00.829 --> 00:35:02.710
You'll have to pay me 100 grand a year, but
943
00:35:02.730 --> 00:35:04.550
that will cover your spirit and soul.
944
00:35:04.750 --> 00:35:07.110
We walk out into the woods. You can't take that
945
00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:08.489
money into heaven.
946
00:35:08.929 --> 00:35:12.250
I tell you what's going on, you're more like a
947
00:35:12.269 --> 00:35:15.300
creepy leader. My girls bought a necklace from Spain that
948
00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:17.119
they're making me wear, and it's like a little crystal.
949
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:18.260
Oh, here it is.
950
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.840
Oh no welcome i'm the new cult leader you're six
951
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.139
months away from being baptized in the thames by bear
952
00:35:25.179 --> 00:35:29.159
grills aren't you wearing a tunic look man just the
953
00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:32.519
msm is just bullshit and i don't think time we
954
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.840
speak to internet people about real truth.
955
00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:37.860
And just on this subject obviously just at any point
956
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.719
just say now what was it like establishing a a
957
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:45.710
healthy kind of co-parenting situation because I've it seems like
958
00:35:45.730 --> 00:35:47.130
you're in a really good place with her and when
959
00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:48.929
I've spoken to you about it it seems like it's
960
00:35:49.510 --> 00:35:51.630
you know you've got a really good relationship but was
961
00:35:51.670 --> 00:35:54.110
that a tough journey yeah.
962
00:35:53.969 --> 00:35:55.409
It can be tough but it's just a type of
963
00:35:55.449 --> 00:35:57.480
relationship isn't it and any relationship is like that isn't
964
00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:59.440
it it's just about learning how to deal with it
965
00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:00.139
but yeah we're.
966
00:36:00.059 --> 00:36:02.519
At a point now where it is like it's much more.
967
00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:04.719
Yeah you're both parents aren't you you're both trying to
968
00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:06.559
raise the kids and they come first isn't it so.
969
00:36:06.460 --> 00:36:07.840
I thought he was asking us then I was like
970
00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:12.250
yeah he's actually much research yeah Would there be any
971
00:36:12.289 --> 00:36:14.969
advice you'd give to anyone that like is trying to
972
00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:17.409
manage that in the early stages of that, that you
973
00:36:17.429 --> 00:36:18.409
sort of learned from yourself?
974
00:36:18.869 --> 00:36:21.570
It's obvious, and it's a bit cliche, but just kids
975
00:36:21.610 --> 00:36:23.190
come first, isn't it?
976
00:36:23.210 --> 00:36:24.510
That's all that matters.
977
00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:26.670
You've just got to make sure they're, you know, and
978
00:36:26.690 --> 00:36:30.309
if you've got any of your own personal way you're feeling, right,
979
00:36:31.150 --> 00:36:32.289
just all you've got to do is look at the
980
00:36:32.309 --> 00:36:35.050
kids and ask, are they happy? And if that's, if they,
981
00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:37.670
you know, anything new personal you're going on or any
982
00:36:37.710 --> 00:36:41.440
little like problem or any, thing you're niggling at you
983
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:42.739
just look at the kid and go if they look
984
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.719
happy then i ain't got much to worry about yeah
985
00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:46.679
yeah because because you could you could they could be
986
00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:48.760
saying giving you the ump and you realize oh this
987
00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:50.920
is the personal thing about me i mean it's.
988
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.719
Not well if that you know if it's your time
989
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.039
to have them but the mum's having a fun party
990
00:36:55.059 --> 00:36:56.340
thing that happens to fall on that day and they
991
00:36:56.380 --> 00:36:58.420
go oh dad can we stay and have this barbecue
992
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.360
because it's a family thing part of you goes like
993
00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:01.739
well but it's my day i want to be but
994
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.619
then if they're buzzing for it then it's almost like
995
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.099
you've got to go Okay, yeah, and park your own feelings.
996
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.880
I'll give you a good example. So they went on holiday.
997
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:15.559
Without me, they went on holiday half term abroad. And
998
00:37:15.579 --> 00:37:16.840
I had that little feeling where you do get a
999
00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:17.969
little bit, oh, I wish I was there with him.
1000
00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:18.559
Do you know what I mean?
1001
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.900
And I got a little bit inside myself and all that.
1002
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.380
But I've turned around, I had to look at myself.
1003
00:37:23.460 --> 00:37:25.639
And so on the day they was going on holiday,
1004
00:37:25.659 --> 00:37:27.159
I had him for the morning. So I thought, instead
1005
00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:29.519
of moping around going, oh yeah, I took my boy
1006
00:37:29.539 --> 00:37:30.940
to get his hair cut. I took my girl to
1007
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:31.699
get her nails done.
1008
00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:32.480
Oh, that's lovely.
1009
00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:35.079
Got excited for him. And I felt bad. Do you
1010
00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:35.980
know what I mean?
1011
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:36.579
I felt bad.
1012
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.099
Rather than going, just getting around going, you're going to
1013
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:39.500
miss me.
1014
00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:40.059
Yeah.
1015
00:37:40.099 --> 00:37:40.239
Yeah.
1016
00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:43.599
Do you know what I mean?
1017
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.460
Like, you might as well get on their level, get
1018
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.230
excited for it, but then you'll feel better for it,
1019
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:48.469
you know?
1020
00:37:48.710 --> 00:37:49.030
That's great.
1021
00:37:49.050 --> 00:37:50.769
That's brilliant advice. That's a really healthy way of looking
1022
00:37:50.809 --> 00:37:50.989
at it.
1023
00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:55.250
Yeah. And do you find, what's it like when you, like,
1024
00:37:55.289 --> 00:37:57.750
so they've gone away for a week. That must be
1025
00:37:57.849 --> 00:37:59.389
quite surreal because.
1026
00:37:59.750 --> 00:38:01.150
Josh, you get at the point that he's going to
1027
00:38:01.190 --> 00:38:03.170
get more free time on his own than you really want.
1028
00:38:03.230 --> 00:38:04.949
Is that what you're... I'm not saying that, Josh.
1029
00:38:04.969 --> 00:38:08.010
The jealousy Josh has got for co-parents and having extra
1030
00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:09.510
spare time is insane.
1031
00:38:09.530 --> 00:38:11.570
We give you guys a lot of pity, but I'm
1032
00:38:11.590 --> 00:38:12.550
saying the best of both worlds.
1033
00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:17.099
No, I mean, do you know what, though?
1034
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.500
Thankfully, I was busy.
1035
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:18.980
I was like.
1036
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.219
I had a tour date and then I was in the...
1037
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.780
Kilkenny for a comedy festival.
1038
00:38:24.940 --> 00:38:27.920
Are you still just loving the.
1039
00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:31.199
Because in my head, the thought of going to Kilkenny,
1040
00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:33.780
I would rather fucking die than go to Kilkenny for
1041
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.800
a comedy festival. Are you still at a stage where
1042
00:38:36.900 --> 00:38:38.239
everything's really exciting?
1043
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:44.530
Nah. No, Joe, it's just started to pivot now where
1044
00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:47.929
it's like... I realised last week, right? Because the fun
1045
00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:50.190
of staying in hotels is gone now. I used to
1046
00:38:50.230 --> 00:38:52.969
be like... Even if I was feeling... like rough or
1047
00:38:52.989 --> 00:38:54.489
whatever I'd get up for the breakfast I'm having a
1048
00:38:54.530 --> 00:38:57.030
breakfast now I'm like fuck the breakfast.
1049
00:38:57.050 --> 00:39:00.650
I'm taking the I don't I don't I don't give
1050
00:39:00.670 --> 00:39:03.280
a shit now it's like that because if I had
1051
00:39:03.739 --> 00:39:03.980
if I.
1052
00:39:03.929 --> 00:39:05.480
Could I'd just be with the kids do you know what.
1053
00:39:05.420 --> 00:39:08.300
I mean yeah good news is I'm 15 years in
1054
00:39:08.420 --> 00:39:11.000
you're four years in and this year I only spent
1055
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.559
112 nights in hotel rooms so you know as.
1056
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:14.679
It progresses.
1057
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.039
Rob is having an affair to be fair absolutely.
1058
00:39:18.389 --> 00:39:23.510
Yeah But I am still like having fun with like,
1059
00:39:23.530 --> 00:39:25.710
you know, because this is my first tour. So like
1060
00:39:25.769 --> 00:39:29.530
the shows and people coming out, that's still like overwhelming.
1061
00:39:29.550 --> 00:39:31.570
So you say, you like them shows in Leicester Square.
1062
00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:34.179
It's mad when you're like on the wedding, you're looking
1063
00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:36.559
at people going out for a night out, dressed up.
1064
00:39:36.699 --> 00:39:39.000
They got a baby, they're going out and you're thinking, fuck,
1065
00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:39.699
I'm the night out.
1066
00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:41.599
Like they're going to see me.
1067
00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:42.619
That's mental. That's a mad.
1068
00:39:45.699 --> 00:39:47.599
Feeling but it's do you know what i also what
1069
00:39:47.619 --> 00:39:49.420
i'm loving though this is the like with the tour
1070
00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:51.659
um because i obviously have like a lot of things
1071
00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:54.559
i do is online like but this is like you're
1072
00:39:54.619 --> 00:39:57.920
seeing your audience you're working out who they are and
1073
00:39:57.940 --> 00:39:59.579
what is wicked that you don't because you don't obviously
1074
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.840
don't get to choose your audience do you but what's
1075
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:03.989
wicked like they're all coming out and the sort of
1076
00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:06.889
they're all different ages backgrounds but the main thing is
1077
00:40:06.909 --> 00:40:09.030
they're just people coming out for a laugh which is
1078
00:40:09.269 --> 00:40:11.289
like yeah i think it's important for comedy isn't it
1079
00:40:11.329 --> 00:40:12.809
like some people don't think.
1080
00:40:12.710 --> 00:40:23.519
So yeah Oh, you remember my audience then, Jack? Tell
1081
00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:25.679
me about cheerleading, Jack. What is that?
1082
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:30.480
Like your daughter's a cheerleader. So is that like a competition? Yeah,
1083
00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:31.300
I don't.
1084
00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:33.480
Again, I don't know what's going on there. I'm just
1085
00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.199
there being supportive.
1086
00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:37.590
Can you watch or is it a drop off and go?
1087
00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:40.369
No, the training.
1088
00:40:40.389 --> 00:40:42.849
So she does like two hours on a Monday. I'll
1089
00:40:42.869 --> 00:40:43.909
drop her off at half four, pick her up at
1090
00:40:43.929 --> 00:40:45.130
half six. It's like two hours.
1091
00:40:45.469 --> 00:40:46.360
Jesus. Blimey.
1092
00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:48.940
But then you go to the competitions and the thing
1093
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.190
with the competitions is that's pretty much like a day
1094
00:40:51.230 --> 00:40:54.550
event and my daughter's routine is about four minutes long.
1095
00:40:56.300 --> 00:40:57.599
Oh, they love doing that.
1096
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.840
Dragging you all in for a fucking admission fee to
1097
00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:02.059
watch the other kids jump about.
1098
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.070
Then you're just a bloke there watching other little girls dancing.
1099
00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:09.750
It's a weird... Yeah, because if.
1100
00:41:09.690 --> 00:41:12.110
You don't know them, I feel like you should leave.
1101
00:41:12.309 --> 00:41:14.670
Yeah, do you know what I mean? You're related to
1102
00:41:14.690 --> 00:41:16.780
these children. No, we'll get the fuck out the hall,
1103
00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:17.360
you pervert.
1104
00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:19.820
It's exactly what it's like.
1105
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.900
Just sitting watching other children cheerlead.
1106
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.840
Yeah. So I take her along to the competition.
1107
00:41:24.940 --> 00:41:27.739
I did one last Saturday or Saturday before.
1108
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:28.760
I took her to one.
1109
00:41:28.820 --> 00:41:31.239
It was her competition. And I walked in and you
1110
00:41:31.260 --> 00:41:33.039
had to go and collect the bands and then queue
1111
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:34.980
up and go in for the tickets to get in.
1112
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:35.780
And I walked in.
1113
00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:37.500
I was like, where do I collect the things from?
1114
00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:39.260
She went, oh, just that desk over there. I walked
1115
00:41:39.300 --> 00:41:40.679
up to the front desk, collected the band. I said, oh,
1116
00:41:40.699 --> 00:41:42.610
do I just stand in this queue here now? She goes, no,
1117
00:41:42.619 --> 00:41:45.000
that's the queue for the bands. I just pushed all
1118
00:41:45.019 --> 00:41:47.809
the way to the front desk. It was just a
1119
00:41:47.829 --> 00:41:49.989
half hour queue. And I just see all the moms going, oh,
1120
00:41:49.989 --> 00:41:52.889
he's got a few followers on TikTok. Now he thinks
1121
00:41:52.909 --> 00:41:56.090
he can fucking walk straight in it. And then I
1122
00:41:56.150 --> 00:41:57.230
even said to, I said to one of the moms,
1123
00:41:57.250 --> 00:41:59.110
I said, I thought, I went, oh, I think I've just,
1124
00:41:59.590 --> 00:42:00.420
I think I've just pushed in.
1125
00:42:00.429 --> 00:42:03.880
She went, yeah, you have. And I was like, oh, fuck.
1126
00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:06.420
I was like, public enemy number one. So I just went,
1127
00:42:06.539 --> 00:42:07.019
went ahead.
1128
00:42:07.099 --> 00:42:10.119
So my question on that that came up there is
1129
00:42:10.139 --> 00:42:13.730
that your son's 10, your daughter's nine. What's, What's the
1130
00:42:13.909 --> 00:42:17.280
age difference there? That's quite a close one, isn't it?
1131
00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:19.289
It's quite a close one, but my boy is 11
1132
00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:20.449
on Sunday.
1133
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:21.360
Oh, right.
1134
00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:22.139
Yeah, 18 months, yeah.
1135
00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:25.659
Oh, so how was that back in the day? The
1136
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.840
18-month and a baby, that must have been intense.
1137
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:29.920
It was intense, but I think sometimes if you have
1138
00:42:29.940 --> 00:42:33.420
them that close together, it's like... Because they all act
1139
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.849
like twins, really. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
1140
00:42:35.949 --> 00:42:39.000
And it's... I don't know, because I've got no reference
1141
00:42:39.139 --> 00:42:40.280
to doing it any other way, really.
1142
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:42.659
What's the distance with yours, Rob? Two and a half years?
1143
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:43.250
Two years.
1144
00:42:43.369 --> 00:42:44.110
Two years.
1145
00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:46.650
Bang on two years. But yeah, it was fun.
1146
00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:50.010
Basically, as soon as the youngest one could waddle around,
1147
00:42:50.389 --> 00:42:52.690
they would play together. But that bit when you had
1148
00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:55.170
a baby and the other little one crawling around, that
1149
00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:56.409
was hard.
1150
00:42:56.449 --> 00:42:57.289
Running about, that was hard.
1151
00:42:57.389 --> 00:42:58.980
Rob, do your kids fight now?
1152
00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:01.360
Do they fight?
1153
00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:03.260
They don't really fight. They get on really well. They
1154
00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:04.199
occasionally argue.
1155
00:43:04.949 --> 00:43:08.349
And what more often happens is the older one will
1156
00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:12.199
try and sort of like out-intelligence the younger one by
1157
00:43:12.340 --> 00:43:14.440
saying something to get her in trouble. And then she'll
1158
00:43:14.460 --> 00:43:16.880
like kick back and say something else to her. And
1159
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.719
then they'll come back going, she said this, she said this.
1160
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.050
But they don't actually physically fight. It's like Trump and Musk,
1161
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.369
isn't it? Yeah, it's more like Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
1162
00:43:24.389 --> 00:43:26.170
They have a bit of that. But they're actually quite good.
1163
00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:29.130
So we try and do separate stuff with them. So
1164
00:43:29.170 --> 00:43:30.809
my daughter was at a party at the weekend. So
1165
00:43:30.849 --> 00:43:32.900
I took my other daughter to the park. because I
1166
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:34.800
think sometimes when they're, I don't know if you have this.
1167
00:43:35.659 --> 00:43:36.539
Yeah, it was a birthday.
1168
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:38.719
But I think sometimes.
1169
00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:40.929
When they're too close and they act like twins, they
1170
00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:43.610
don't get enough one-on-one time because you just couple them
1171
00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:45.769
together and go, right, you two are on. So sometimes
1172
00:43:45.789 --> 00:43:47.329
you don't have direct chat with them.
1173
00:43:47.349 --> 00:43:49.750
That is one of the hard thing about single parent
1174
00:43:49.769 --> 00:43:53.070
or co-parenting. I think as well with a son and daughter,
1175
00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:55.210
because like on your own going, right, what can we
1176
00:43:55.230 --> 00:43:56.769
all do together that we're all going to enjoy?
1177
00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:58.510
And they are quite different. Do you know what I mean?
1178
00:43:58.530 --> 00:44:02.250
So like I'd go like over the park, My boy
1179
00:44:02.269 --> 00:44:04.269
loves football with him, but my little girl wants to
1180
00:44:04.289 --> 00:44:05.530
go on the seesaw.
1181
00:44:05.550 --> 00:44:06.030
Do you know what I mean?
1182
00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:08.809
It's that thing you've got to try and find that balance.
1183
00:44:09.230 --> 00:44:11.130
Is there anything that they both like that you end
1184
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:12.269
up doing? Cinema, maybe?
1185
00:44:12.590 --> 00:44:14.989
Cinema, things like that.
1186
00:44:15.110 --> 00:44:17.260
I'll go down to the arcade. We just go for
1187
00:44:17.300 --> 00:44:19.920
walks or do things like that. We borrow my dad's dog.
1188
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.360
I go do dog walks and that sort of stuff.
1189
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.840
I ain't giving a dog no way. We just borrow one.
1190
00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:28.260
They do this thing though, if they're together. They're together
1191
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.320
in a room. they do this thing where they get
1192
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.599
like excited, excited, excited, happy. I guess, I guess the point,
1193
00:44:34.619 --> 00:44:38.400
you know, you can feel it like bubbling over. You're thinking, yeah, it's.
1194
00:44:38.340 --> 00:44:39.909
Going to kick off in a minute. Cause it goes,
1195
00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:41.869
do you know what I mean?
1196
00:44:41.889 --> 00:44:44.050
It leans. Yeah. The excitement starts going, you're like, fuck it.
1197
00:44:44.050 --> 00:44:45.769
And you have to go in there. It's like, you
1198
00:44:45.789 --> 00:44:48.880
have to be like a nightclub bouncer before it kicks off.
1199
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.440
Do you know what I mean? Just be like, you've
1200
00:44:50.460 --> 00:44:50.760
had enough.
1201
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.840
Cause when it does, I've had it before when it,
1202
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.300
cause they've had like, not regularly, but like, Especially like
1203
00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:57.599
first thing in the morning, getting ready for school and
1204
00:44:57.619 --> 00:44:59.940
they've had like a full on fight, like kicks. You've
1205
00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:01.579
got to go in there and like drag them off
1206
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.590
each other. Like it's proper kicking off. And then like
1207
00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:06.769
the weird thing that happens though, a couple of minutes later,
1208
00:45:06.809 --> 00:45:11.389
they're like best mates and I'm traumatized. Because I had
1209
00:45:11.409 --> 00:45:13.670
to break up this fight at like seven o'clock in
1210
00:45:13.690 --> 00:45:14.150
the morning.
1211
00:45:14.170 --> 00:45:18.900
I can never understand how children recover so quickly. I know,
1212
00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:21.820
it's mad, isn't it? Because if me and Rob had
1213
00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:25.320
a blazing row, like, that would be there forever.
1214
00:45:25.340 --> 00:45:28.619
We've never had a row. We've never had one row. Literally,
1215
00:45:29.219 --> 00:45:33.360
don't care either way, do we? He's actually worrying.
1216
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:35.940
Like, is it a lack of ambition or care or
1217
00:45:36.019 --> 00:45:36.699
will that, like.
1218
00:45:37.429 --> 00:45:38.440
I've never argued.
1219
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.119
It's like, all right then.
1220
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:41.679
Resigned.
1221
00:45:41.980 --> 00:45:45.059
If we had like, if we fronted up to each other,
1222
00:45:45.139 --> 00:45:48.099
that would never, we wouldn't go, oh, that was a
1223
00:45:48.099 --> 00:45:50.480
bit of fun. And then immediately straight on. What if
1224
00:45:50.539 --> 00:45:52.179
I cried in front of Rob?
1225
00:45:52.380 --> 00:45:52.639
Yeah.
1226
00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:54.849
Then that would be huge. But if you cry as
1227
00:45:54.949 --> 00:45:57.989
a kid in front of another kid, straight away the
1228
00:45:58.050 --> 00:45:59.809
moment you're fine, everyone forgets about it. Yeah, just playing
1229
00:45:59.829 --> 00:46:00.309
Roblox together.
1230
00:46:00.329 --> 00:46:00.809
That's all right.
1231
00:46:00.849 --> 00:46:01.449
Just whatever, man.
1232
00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:02.070
Touch gloves. It's fine.
1233
00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:02.210
Yeah.
1234
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.719
So how long are you going away on holiday for, Jack?
1235
00:46:06.780 --> 00:46:08.820
When you go on holiday, is it just you with
1236
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:10.780
the two kids or is anyone else going, any family
1237
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:11.639
or friends?
1238
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.949
Just me and the two kids, yeah. I've never done
1239
00:46:13.969 --> 00:46:14.840
it before, actually.
1240
00:46:15.139 --> 00:46:17.110
Never done it before, so I'd be like you.
1241
00:46:17.469 --> 00:46:20.429
Because then you'd be like, I don't know about you,
1242
00:46:20.469 --> 00:46:22.309
but when you're on holiday with them, do they go
1243
00:46:22.329 --> 00:46:24.289
off and make holiday friends or do they play together
1244
00:46:24.349 --> 00:46:25.590
or do they go to the kids' club?
1245
00:46:25.829 --> 00:46:28.429
I suppose it's the first time to find out.
1246
00:46:28.630 --> 00:46:30.829
No, well, I take them. I ain't been abroad with
1247
00:46:30.909 --> 00:46:32.889
them before, but me and my mum still take them
1248
00:46:32.909 --> 00:46:36.190
down the caravan. And they love that. That's just like, yeah.
1249
00:46:36.730 --> 00:46:39.929
That's like 1970s feral kids decay. That's a bit on
1250
00:46:39.969 --> 00:46:43.340
brand for you, isn't it? Even for you, that's a
1251
00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:44.260
bit on brand.
1252
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:44.880
Yeah.
1253
00:46:44.980 --> 00:46:45.780
Even I roll in the ice.
1254
00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:48.940
Come on, mate. We get it. My PR told me
1255
00:46:48.980 --> 00:46:53.800
to say that. You've not said apple and pears yet.
1256
00:46:53.820 --> 00:46:57.260
Maybe we'll squeeze that in as well, Oren. Talk to
1257
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.659
me about taking him down the caravan, though, because I'll
1258
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.360
be honest, I've never been taken down the caravan.
1259
00:47:01.389 --> 00:47:03.280
You've never been to a caravan party? It's great fun.
1260
00:47:03.429 --> 00:47:05.349
No, I've been to... I've been in a caravan, but
1261
00:47:05.389 --> 00:47:06.769
what I mean is I've never... I don't think I've
1262
00:47:06.789 --> 00:47:08.670
been on a caravan. We used to go camping, so
1263
00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:09.929
that's kind of... Ah, right.
1264
00:47:09.949 --> 00:47:12.530
Yeah. Because we're going to a caravan, not to get
1265
00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:14.010
on brand with you, Jack, but we're taking the girls
1266
00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:15.849
to a static caravan park in the summer.
1267
00:47:15.889 --> 00:47:16.739
Oh, here we fucking go.
1268
00:47:16.989 --> 00:47:19.469
But it sounds like, so there's two ways.
1269
00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:24.750
We're going on a caravan holiday, which is what we're doing,
1270
00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:27.349
but the way Jack went going down the caravan implies
1271
00:47:27.409 --> 00:47:31.010
it's a family-owned caravan, either your mum's or someone's, and
1272
00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:33.670
there's other family members and friends have got caravans down there.
1273
00:47:33.969 --> 00:47:34.489
Is that right?
1274
00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:37.829
I think that's why I... use that terminology so yeah
1275
00:47:37.949 --> 00:47:40.130
yeah my auntie and my nan they used to have
1276
00:47:40.150 --> 00:47:43.449
caravan down sheppy.
1277
00:47:42.449 --> 00:47:47.380
Down the caravan means it's caravans you own but to
1278
00:47:47.460 --> 00:47:49.579
a caravan park is all the day but.
1279
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.119
The thing is though like this is the thing because
1280
00:47:51.139 --> 00:47:52.780
you can spend loads of money taking them wherever you
1281
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.519
want like but the thing is they they do enjoy
1282
00:47:55.539 --> 00:47:56.199
it just as much.
1283
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.719
They love it bikes just go they go feral like
1284
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:02.260
70s kids for the weekend we went every year I.
1285
00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:04.780
Didn't go on holiday abroad as a kid, not to
1286
00:48:05.019 --> 00:48:06.139
steal your shtick, Jack.
1287
00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:09.880
Let's all get our tiny violins out.
1288
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.480
No, but we'd go camping in South Wales every year.
1289
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.039
And I don't believe that if we'd flown to anywhere,
1290
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.320
I'd have enjoyed it more. Not as a kid. It
1291
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:23.449
was the best thing I ever did. And it was
1292
00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:26.690
the highlight of my year. And as a kid, you
1293
00:48:26.789 --> 00:48:29.599
aren't thinking, fucking hell, I wish they had a, an
1294
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.699
excellent kids club and I wish they had six different
1295
00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:36.989
restaurants or a warm pool without yeah.
1296
00:48:37.530 --> 00:48:39.090
And you can you can do the best of both
1297
00:48:39.130 --> 00:48:40.360
worlds where you if you want to get involved and
1298
00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:41.820
there's like things that you can go through like the
1299
00:48:41.860 --> 00:48:44.280
five-a-side pitch or there's little things you know the swimming
1300
00:48:44.300 --> 00:48:45.940
pool But then in the evenings, if you just want
1301
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.719
to chill out and do whatever you.
1302
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.960
Want, arcade, they just keep coming back. You give them
1303
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:51.639
a quid, they go run off, get a change.
1304
00:48:51.739 --> 00:48:53.659
I love the arcade so much.
1305
00:48:53.739 --> 00:48:56.929
The perfect caravan holiday is there's a clubhouse, right? That's
1306
00:48:56.949 --> 00:48:59.269
got an outside eating area and drinking area. We can
1307
00:48:59.309 --> 00:49:01.869
sit there. And then in front of that area needs
1308
00:49:01.909 --> 00:49:05.230
to be your caravan in view, the play area in
1309
00:49:05.269 --> 00:49:06.349
view and.
1310
00:49:05.949 --> 00:49:06.949
The bit of grass in view.
1311
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.639
And that way you've got a trifecta of you don't
1312
00:49:10.659 --> 00:49:12.739
have to move for a week. But you can sit
1313
00:49:12.780 --> 00:49:14.409
there and have a drink and they go, can I
1314
00:49:14.429 --> 00:49:16.269
go and get that from the caravan? Yes, you can,
1315
00:49:16.289 --> 00:49:17.630
because I can see you go in and out.
1316
00:49:18.050 --> 00:49:19.530
Can I go over there? Yep, yep, yep. And then
1317
00:49:19.570 --> 00:49:19.869
it's done.
1318
00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:21.610
It's exactly what I had Cornwall last year.
1319
00:49:21.789 --> 00:49:22.610
Posh. I was there.
1320
00:49:22.630 --> 00:49:28.349
The baseball field. I could see the caravan. I could
1321
00:49:28.369 --> 00:49:32.750
see the bar. I could see the playground. And so
1322
00:49:32.769 --> 00:49:34.690
where are you going on? Are you going on another
1323
00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:35.289
caravan one?
1324
00:49:35.849 --> 00:49:36.150
No, no.
1325
00:49:36.219 --> 00:49:37.050
I'm going to Spain.
1326
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.010
Even when I booked it though, I booked the one,
1327
00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:40.880
I just looked at the pictures and I picked the
1328
00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:42.650
one where the swimming pool's got all the slides in it.
1329
00:49:44.059 --> 00:49:46.929
The one that looks the most... fun i'll just.
1330
00:49:46.699 --> 00:49:48.869
Yeah oh brilliant they have a great time yeah it's
1331
00:49:48.889 --> 00:49:49.730
gonna be well they must be.
1332
00:49:49.670 --> 00:49:51.530
Buzzing yeah they're proper looking forward to it i can't
1333
00:49:51.570 --> 00:49:53.250
wait as well how are you feeling about the flight
1334
00:49:53.809 --> 00:49:56.250
oh mate i'll be fine at their age i'll be
1335
00:49:56.289 --> 00:49:58.230
fine piece of piss no i'll tell you for why
1336
00:49:58.250 --> 00:50:00.849
because so their mum is australian so when they were
1337
00:50:00.869 --> 00:50:03.309
younger we went we've done a few trips to australia
1338
00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:09.000
and i so my boy was about two and uh
1339
00:50:09.260 --> 00:50:10.639
i flew home on my own from.
1340
00:50:10.579 --> 00:50:11.199
Australia with him.
1341
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.920
On my own, right? And that was, what an error, right?
1342
00:50:16.940 --> 00:50:21.610
What I did. He fell asleep as soon as we
1343
00:50:21.630 --> 00:50:23.349
got on the flight. So I thought, oh, bit of
1344
00:50:23.369 --> 00:50:24.849
me time. I'm going to chill out and watch a film.
1345
00:50:30.889 --> 00:50:32.469
And so by the time I was knackered and I
1346
00:50:32.469 --> 00:50:33.989
needed my sleep, he was up.
1347
00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:41.099
I still remember this woman, whoever you are, if you're
1348
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:43.119
out there, she was there with her two kids who
1349
00:50:43.139 --> 00:50:45.619
were about my age, my kids age now, about nine
1350
00:50:45.699 --> 00:50:46.280
and 10.
1351
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:47.940
And she just looked at me and she went, give
1352
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:48.280
him here.
1353
00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:52.239
And her kids just played with him. I just had
1354
00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:54.119
like an hour just to just shut my eyes and
1355
00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:55.460
just get, get, get, get.
1356
00:50:55.539 --> 00:50:59.449
Cause he was like, he, uh, Was he on your
1357
00:50:59.469 --> 00:51:00.789
lap or was he on his own seat?
1358
00:51:00.949 --> 00:51:03.489
He was on my lap on the second flight when
1359
00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:04.159
I found our seat.
1360
00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:05.880
Do you know the flight where it's the four in
1361
00:51:05.900 --> 00:51:06.199
the middle?
1362
00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:06.860
Yeah.
1363
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.340
And I was between someone with like a mask on.
1364
00:51:10.340 --> 00:51:12.719
This was before COVID. Someone who's like paranoid about germs.
1365
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.420
Between me and a businessman on his laptop.
1366
00:51:17.869 --> 00:51:21.909
And you were in the middle of a table. Oh,
1367
00:51:21.969 --> 00:51:25.550
my God. Oh, my God. Oh, man.
1368
00:51:25.610 --> 00:51:28.219
My mum picked me up from Gatwick.
1369
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:29.940
It was a breakdown. I had, like, a breakdown.
1370
00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:32.539
I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.
1371
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.079
That was the hardest thing. So, taking two of them
1372
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.400
for two hours to Spain is a piece of piss, mate.
1373
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:39.039
Yeah, they say.
1374
00:51:39.300 --> 00:51:40.989
So, was you having to chase the two-year-old up and
1375
00:51:41.010 --> 00:51:42.409
down the plane and go and hang around by the
1376
00:51:42.469 --> 00:51:43.570
stewards and stewardesses?
1377
00:51:43.610 --> 00:51:44.070
Or did you just.
1378
00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:46.050
That's all he wanted to do. He just wanted to
1379
00:51:46.170 --> 00:51:46.469
be up.
1380
00:51:46.630 --> 00:51:47.429
For 12 hours.
1381
00:51:47.769 --> 00:51:50.789
Yeah, for 12 hours while I haven't slept. I can't
1382
00:51:50.809 --> 00:51:53.929
believe what an idiot. I watched like Tom Hardy film
1383
00:51:53.949 --> 00:51:54.750
where the gin and tonic.
1384
00:51:54.869 --> 00:51:56.190
This is all right.
1385
00:51:58.050 --> 00:52:00.360
This is a piece of business. He was sparking. I
1386
00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:03.579
was like, I've got this nail. He'll probably sleep for
1387
00:52:03.579 --> 00:52:10.840
24 hours. He'll be fine. Jesus Christ. Jack, it's been
1388
00:52:10.860 --> 00:52:14.389
a joy to speak to you. You are genuinely brilliant.
1389
00:52:14.610 --> 00:52:17.449
And I'm so pleased it's all going so well.
1390
00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:21.210
We normally ask a question about the other parent in
1391
00:52:21.230 --> 00:52:23.610
the situation. I don't know if you want to do
1392
00:52:23.659 --> 00:52:27.079
that with your ex. Well, basically, the question is, what's
1393
00:52:27.099 --> 00:52:29.199
the thing that she does as a parent that's amazing?
1394
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.260
And you go, oh, she's so brilliant. I'm so lucky
1395
00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:33.340
to co-parent with her. And then is there anything that
1396
00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:34.760
she does that winds you up a little bit, but
1397
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.570
you don't want to say in case it kicks off?
1398
00:52:36.789 --> 00:52:38.150
I think I'll just answer the first one, I think.
1399
00:52:38.190 --> 00:52:44.320
Good decision.
1400
00:52:44.659 --> 00:52:46.679
Because we're in a good place now, so let's fucking...
1401
00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:51.099
Let's go with the first one then.
1402
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.349
Yeah, no, do you know what I mean?
1403
00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:56.090
She's very chilled out and we can talk things through
1404
00:52:56.150 --> 00:52:58.789
and there's an understanding there. And I think that's, you know,
1405
00:52:58.969 --> 00:53:00.510
and anyway, I say anyone who's out there going through
1406
00:53:00.530 --> 00:53:03.269
a similar thing, If you take your time and work
1407
00:53:03.309 --> 00:53:04.909
hard at it, you'll get there. But just put the
1408
00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:08.059
kids first and just make sure they're happy. It can
1409
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.119
be tough, but you can get there.
1410
00:53:09.340 --> 00:53:09.760
Oh, brilliant.
1411
00:53:09.820 --> 00:53:10.219
That's great.
1412
00:53:10.260 --> 00:53:11.780
Thanks so much, Jack. This is amazing.
1413
00:53:12.019 --> 00:53:13.619
Perfect, Dan. Jack, thank you.
1414
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:14.420
I know, thank you.
1415
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.280
Joy to have you on. And I thought you'd been
1416
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.179
on anyway, so it doesn't really make any difference to
1417
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:19.949
my life. But it's good to get it done.
1418
00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:21.409
And it's called Skint, you're taught.
1419
00:53:21.530 --> 00:53:21.969
Skint, yeah.
1420
00:53:21.989 --> 00:53:22.869
It's all over the country.
1421
00:53:23.230 --> 00:53:25.050
Sign up to the mailing list.
1422
00:53:25.070 --> 00:53:25.730
Is it sold out?
1423
00:53:26.090 --> 00:53:27.250
Yeah, so sign up to the mailing list.
1424
00:53:27.269 --> 00:53:27.929
It's all sold out.
1425
00:53:28.210 --> 00:53:29.409
Yeah, well, there's a few left.
1426
00:53:29.730 --> 00:53:31.690
And online, you're just Jack Skipper everywhere, yeah?
1427
00:53:32.130 --> 00:53:34.840
Yeah, that's it, yeah. Well, good luck, mate. See you later.
1428
00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:35.260
Cheers, boys.
1429
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:41.130
Cheers. Bye-bye. Cheers, Jack. Jack Skipper. Jack Skipper. Sorry, Rob.
1430
00:53:41.289 --> 00:53:44.210
I interrupted you. That's it, Josh. Let's not have fucking
1431
00:53:44.230 --> 00:53:44.849
fallen out about it.
1432
00:53:44.849 --> 00:53:48.710
I'm sick of you sat there fucking interrupting me with
1433
00:53:48.730 --> 00:53:51.449
your fucking jacket on and glasses.
1434
00:53:51.489 --> 00:53:53.219
I mean, I literally tried to invent something to be annoying.
1435
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.079
You specky prick. You specky prick because I've got spectacles
1436
00:53:56.139 --> 00:53:59.519
on myself. He's brilliant, Jack. Genuinely. He's a lovely guy.
1437
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.340
Really really good dad also really funny online and like
1438
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:06.989
you say i thought oh he might be one of
1439
00:54:07.030 --> 00:54:09.550
these guys that's got funny videos but just stand up
1440
00:54:09.630 --> 00:54:11.329
and funny videos never.
1441
00:54:11.449 --> 00:54:13.869
Doesn't always work names.
1442
00:54:13.809 --> 00:54:15.469
Now it makes sense that he's always wanting to be
1443
00:54:15.489 --> 00:54:17.389
a stand-up the pandemic stopped him and he's brilliant he's
1444
00:54:17.429 --> 00:54:19.329
really good he's a bit old because he's like an
1445
00:54:19.369 --> 00:54:22.590
everyman normal geezer type bloke but also he has very
1446
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:24.940
outlandish jokes and ideas a bit.
1447
00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:27.239
Short observations Great observations.
1448
00:54:27.260 --> 00:54:27.920
He's excellent.
1449
00:54:27.940 --> 00:54:29.579
So go and see him when you can. And also,
1450
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:31.500
if you need your carpet done, I'm sure he can
1451
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.179
still do a couple. He can still lay a fucking carpet. Josh,
1452
00:54:35.219 --> 00:54:37.820
I'll see you next week. I'll see you on Tuesday, Rob.
1453
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:38.280
Bye.
1454
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:38.480
Bye.
1455
00:54:38.539 --> 00:54:38.780
Bye.
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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe.
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Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and
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I discuss what it's really like to be a parent.
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Which I would say can be a little tricky. So,
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to make ourselves, and hopefully you, feel better about the
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trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll
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be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping.
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hearing from you, the listener, with your tips, advice, and
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of course, tales of parenting woe.
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Because let's be honest, there are plenty of times when
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none of us know what we're doing.
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with.
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Grace, can you say Rob Beckett?
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Rob Beckett.
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And can you say Josh Whittacombe?
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Josh Whittacombe.
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Good girl, that was great.
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Smash that.
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There we go. I should apologise. I've got the window
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open again, Rob.
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This is going to be a running theme throughout the summer.
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When I lived in London, like busy London, the heat
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is in a heat wave. It's unbearable because there's no
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breeze because all the buildings are so high. And if
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you've got a certain room that just gets to sun
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in the afternoon.
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You're dead. It feels when you go out in the street,
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it feels like, you know, like when you see footage
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of like New York in the 80s and people are
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break dancing on. I'm like pieces of cardboard. Yeah. And
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you just think that looks too hot for my tastes.
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That's what it feels like. Hi, Josh, Rob and Michael.
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This is my two-year-old daughter, Grace, absolutely nailing the intro,
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clearly to my surprise, based on my high-pitched response. The
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podcast kept me sane as a geriatric in quotes, parent,
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especially seeing that everyone is struggling with the same shit.
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Stay sexy and relatable. Darren, uh, 585 months fucking house.
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That's what? 52 or something. And in man, who is
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584 months. So that's 52 ish as well.
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So talking about getting older dads, there's a guy in
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my gig the other night. He's got an 18-year-old. Oh,
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window's going down again.
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What's happened? It's just there's an air show or something.
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There's some kind of something going on. We're not in
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a flight path, so it's some kind of military thing. Oh, gosh. Yeah.
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You know, he had an 18-year-old son, an 8-year-old son,
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and a 16-month son. Are you staring down the barrel
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of 40 years of being a parent to a child?
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That is something else. Isn't it? Email in with your
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longest chain. How long have you gone in years with
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an under 18? That's got to be the record, isn't it? So, Rob,
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the last episode ended with the house music coming. It
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was my gardeners. I went down to have a word.
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Your own gardeners were playing house music? Yeah. So these gardeners, Rob,
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can I be honest? Go on. They're too fit for
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my tastes. Right.
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And they've been topless all week.
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Right, well, but you exclusively hire female gardeners.
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You've always done it. It's a quality thing.
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They keep playing in the sprinklers, Rob.
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It's very distracting.
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Could you wash the car as well?
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I've got some denim shorts for you. How, right, talk
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me through age.
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Two guys in their late 20s.
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Late 20s. Mediterranean complexions. Oh, yeah. And both ripped. I
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said to Rose, they're both ripped. And she said, One
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more than the other. And I was like, all right. Also,
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when she said one more than the other, I thought
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if you think one of these two isn't ripped, what
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you must think of my body is fucking crazy.
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I tell you what, there is no better tan than
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the scaffolder in the summer. The scaffolder in the summer
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in a heat wave or the guy that hires out
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jet skis on the beach.
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That guy is always the most tan man ever.
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Well, you should come to my garden, Rob. It's like
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diet coke break all day long. It's unbelievable. Oh, sorry.
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I've just got to give the keys to my tour manager.
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One second.
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So what keys are you giving your room? My tour
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manager's top is in my car.
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So what?
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And his pants are in my drawers. No, he needed
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to get.
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Something out of the car. I had the car key.
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Why did you have the car key?
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Oh, I see.
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As much as I love one of the best, if
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not the best hotel in Swansea, if I stayed in
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there all day, we're in trouble.
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weird if you got your tour manager to drive you
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to lunch with your friend. Yeah, yeah.
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that though.
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Naming no names. Yeah. Naming no names.
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So, so the topless and they're in the garden and
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how long are they here for?
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Three weeks. Do you know what?
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I feel like the next episode I'll be like, what's
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that laughing in the garden? And it'd be like Lou
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Rose and Tom Allen all sat there having a drink.
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So Rob, yeah. You know, we've got a shed at
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the bottom of our garden. It's got some weights in it.
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Is that where you do your Peloton? Uh, yeah.
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How's your Peloton going?
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Uh, I wouldn't say we're breaking even.
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I wanted to do the weights yesterday, but I thought
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I just can't do it. I just can't.
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I can't go into the garden with these two beefcakes.
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No, that was the correct decision. So I went for
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a run in the tropical heat because I wanted to
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do exercise, but I just couldn't.
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it's impossible when it's hot. I can see why all
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these people fainted at the marathon.
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I almost shat myself the other day. I thought I'll
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go for a run around the park in this kind
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of heat. And I started to get the shivers and
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I thought I'm going to shit myself here.
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Why?
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Why? Because the heat was too much for me. I've
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never heard, I'm so hot I could shit. Have you
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shat yourself?
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No, it's vomit.
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Have you ever shat yourself because you're too hot?
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No, it's not too hot. It's because you're exercising in
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the heat. Like Gary Lineker against the Republic of Ireland. No,
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that's not.
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It's got to be a stomach problem. I did a video,
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some filming with Daniel Dubois, you know the boxer?
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trains in this metal barn, and it was on one
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of those 30-degree days.
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Then they got me in the ring, and they were
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training me. But it was so hot, I thought I
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was going to be sick or faint. My legs were
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all going, I was yourself.
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Or shit yourself.
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you know, and the geese went, well, that's why we've
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got a sick bucket.
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If you're going to be sick, just be sick and
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you carry on.
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Or a toilet if you need a poo. No. There
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was no poo bucket. That's what I'm saying. You're not listening, Josh.
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That's what I'm saying. I don't think people get too
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hot and shit themselves.
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Paula Radcliffe. Paula Radcliffe didn't shit herself because it was
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too hot. Wasn't it in China and it was too hot? No.
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I can't believe I'm Googling this. Why did Paula Radcliffe
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shit herself?
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I'll do, where did Paula Radcliffe shit herself? Between us,
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we'll find out. It'd be great if we had Paula
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Radcliffe on the show, though.
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Oh, wow.
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At the London Marathon, it was.
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Runner's Diarrhoea. That's what I had. I had Runner's Diarrhoea.
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far would you run?
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3K.
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to call it quits. Right. What is runner's diarrhoea, then?
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to stop during a race. Nick, can I ask you
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a question?
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Nick, have you ever been running? Where does it come from?
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Nick's just dropped his shirt back. Nick, have you ever...
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Josh nearly shit himself because he was too hot.
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Have you ever had that? No, no, no, because I
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was running. Because I was running. Nick says yes. Oh,
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good on you, Nick. Was you running, Nick, or exercising?
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Or would you... You're running and you're too hot and
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you need to shit yourself. Okay, fair enough.
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Cheers, Nick.
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That's backfired for me. I haven't backfired, I'll tell you
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that for free. Cheers, Nick. Do you know what?
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I stand corrected. Maybe it's a running thing.
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Maybe it's a running thing.
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I'll go running today and I'll let you know whether.
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Or not it's true. Josh, I've been really hot. Hottest
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I've ever been. Right, when's the hottest you've ever been?
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I remember when we did the last leg. What I
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would describe as the ill-fated last leg down under documentary.
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Every TV show has got a few spinoffs that never work. Yeah.
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We went to a, like an Opal, like, you know, Opal,
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the kind of gem.
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the Australian desert.
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just standing outside that and looking at the sound man
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and And he had to have, you know, like a
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beekeeper style, like hat on from the sun because the
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flies were so bad. Oh God. And it was so hot.
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I didn't shit myself.
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our tour show, it was pretty hot outside.
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The hottest I've ever been, though, is I once lived
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in London and one of them tiny little courtyard gardens.
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It was a heatwave at 33 degrees and I was
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doing a barbecue, but I was barbecuing in direct sunlight
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with a barbecue in front of me. And I got so,
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we were supposed to be going out that night, but
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I got so ill and hot that I got prickly
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heat and had to go home.
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Do you know what, Rob? Manning the coconut shire last
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year's school fete was pretty intense. And this year I volunteered,
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but I said it has to be in the shade.
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He's got a rider.
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I was like, I'm willing to help, but please not
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in the sun again.
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I couldn't handle it. Did you get your agent to
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negotiate that deal? Yeah.
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Well, let us know the hottest you've ever been.
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Let us know the hottest you've ever been. But do
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you know who is hot, Rob? Who? In the comedy world,
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Jack Skipper is piping hot.
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He's absolutely... Do you know what? Good looking guy as well.
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He wouldn't be misplaced doing your garden with his top off.
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He wouldn't be misplaced.
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Oh, get your top off and get out there and
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lay some bloody flagstones.
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What have you been doing in the garden? AstroTurf up.
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We're getting rid of the AstroTurf. Yeah. Because, full disclosure, Rob. Yeah.
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Lawns are not a thing in Hackney. You've just got
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You can't have mud grass and the AstroTurf.
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We're getting it replaced with a nice paved thing. Exactly.
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Jack Skipper, ex-carpet fitter, now comedy superstar, and most.
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Importantly, parent. Welcome to the show, Jack. Enjoy it. Hello,
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Jack Skipper.
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Welcome to the show. Thanks for doing this, mate.
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That's all right. No worries.
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Nice to see you as well, Josh.
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Jack, the reason this has come about possibly is I
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said to you that I didn't know whether you'd done
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the podcast.
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Yeah.
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I presumed you had. This is how little I follow
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the podcast.
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I presumed we'd already interviewed you.
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You were talking like I'd been on it, and it
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was a bit awkward.
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Yeah. Great episode, Jack. Did you see enough turning ticket
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sales from it?
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Yeah, you need to get me on, mate.
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How many kids you got, Jack? Let's start with that.
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What's the kid set up?
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I've got two kids.
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I've got my daughter, who's nine, and my boy, who's
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11 on.
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Saturday, actually.
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Oh, Sunday. This Sunday.
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What are you doing for it?
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I'm taking him and three of his mates bowling and
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then for dinner.
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Absolute peak.
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How many seconds did you think of that for?
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That's the thing though, with kids nowadays, that's like a
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normal Saturday, isn't it?
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It's spoiled.
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I was talking to my brother about this yesterday. I
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remember his 10th birthday for a treat. We went down
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the park. That was like a treat. It might have
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been a boring day for my kids. I did a
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thing on this yesterday on Instagram. I was talking about it.
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Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. The difference between...
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And I totally said to me that you were basically
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saying that when you were a kid, you'd go to
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what your parents did. And now the weekends are you
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doing what your children want to do. That's it.
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You just have to go along and make your own fun.
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I was thinking this.
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You know one of the biggest treats for me when
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I was a kid, right? Going with my dad to
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collect the Chinese. That was like a proper treat. Because
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my dad, your dad's a cabbie, isn't he, Rob?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, because you used to have the old cabs and
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it didn't have a.
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Seat in the front.
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We used to sit in the footwell if the back
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was full.
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Yeah, that was a treat for me. I could collect
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the Chinese. I could sit in the footwell.
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Yeah, because he doesn't have a seat. It's for luggage,
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isn't it?
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But yeah, I've sat in one of them all the
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way back from central London before because all my aunties
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are in the back.
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So there wasn't enough space. Where are you facing? I
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can't believe I'm asking this. When you're sitting in the
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footwell of a black cab. Cross-legged facing the glove box,
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whatever it is in front of you. So you're facing forwards,
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but you can't see out the window? No, not at all.
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Nothing.
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Fucking hell. So if he breaks, that's an absolute nightmare, right?
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Yeah, exactly.
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Is there a glove box? Yeah, yeah.
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But you get told off for opening that.
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As long as you're not sort of changing direction or
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braking or accelerating, you're all right. And as you know,
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black cab drivers are so chilled of the way they drive.
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They're never trying to find a little back route or
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go this way or that way.
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So it's absolutely fine.
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But I was thinking this though. I do think like kids,
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they are a bit like, little bit more spoiled nowadays
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I know they get more but I do think they
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do enjoy the little things they're the core memories sort
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of stuff I mean like I only did it last
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night I only had my son yesterday because my little
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girl was at a cheerleading competition and we like as
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a treat my boy he just wanted for dinner he
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wanted picky.
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Bits is he a 52 year old divorcee laughing Just
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come back from Greece and now they're into Mezza.
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Little scotch eggs. He wanted that.
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Do you know what I mean?
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He's had it on the bed and watched Robin Hood,
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Prince of Thieves.
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Oh, wow. How's that aged? Oh, it's all right.
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It's still really good. He enjoyed it. He was going,
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I love this.
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Yeah, it's so simple.
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Where we live now in the countryside, so you can't
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really ride your bike without like being absolutely hammered by
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a car coming past on a little single track. So
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on my new car, I can get the bikes in
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the car. So I took them to the park. I
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was like, well, I can't keep up with them. So
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I went for, I tried to go for a run
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with them. So I was just running, doing laps of
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the park while they were on their bikes. And I
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was like, you can go as far as you want
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that way, come back as far as you want. And
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they were just like belting it up and down. And
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next I was like, dad, that was the best day ever.
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And it's like just a bike at the park.
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They were buzzing.
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I even do it sometimes.
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I know they've like had a day where I think,
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especially my son, is he going to sleep well? I
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actually get him doing hill sprints. oh really just to
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wear him out he thinks it's really fun I'll time
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you I'll run up that hill I'll run back I'll
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just time him just completely.
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Wear him out and that works he's into that yeah
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he's into it yeah he loves it because 11's a
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weird age isn't it because there's a sort of they're
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so like childlike and young still or they just start
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to become like road men it's like a real like
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the classic Kevin and Perry sketch yeah yeah it was
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that overnight switch where they become a bit miserable and
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distant and stuff like that but Is he still at
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that sort of like, you're idolising your stage?
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Yeah, he's impressed by anything I do.
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It's ridiculous. Is he?
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Well, yeah, recently I made him a full English breakfast
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for dinner. He's like Charlie walking into the chocolate factory.
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This guy's shape shifts. He does breakfast at dinner.
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It's like a savoury Willy Wonka.
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When they film little things like that, it's naughty. They
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love it, don't they? Like when it's something, it's just so,
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you know, and you go, yeah, I can do that.
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They're like, oh my God, eggs now.
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I can see him changing, but it's like changing for
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the better. He's like, I sometimes look at my son
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and think, oh, he's cool. He's like, he's probably like,
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cause I'm getting him into like, he's been doing Brazilian
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jujitsu now for like seven months.
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Yeah.
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I think it's like, has actually changed him the way
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he's like, cause they see.
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He talks Portuguese now, doesn't he? He talks Portuguese, yeah.
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But even like the trainers down the like they said
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because I've never done it they said that sport is
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really good for like staying calm under pressure yeah you've
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got someone like getting you in a chokehold you're there
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trying to work out how to get out of it
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and I think I have seen a change in him
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like he's mellowed out a little bit.
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He's not gone the other way where he's swaggering about
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thinking he's hard it's more that he's just being calmer.
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I think That Brazilian jiu-jitsu, I don't think that happens.
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I was at a play fight with my son.
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And you let him win. He got me in this chokehold.
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I was like, fuck.
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Couldn't get out of it.
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I was like, no, that's all right.
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He's like, no, you caught me off guard. You caught
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me off guard, mate.
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Is it weird? I don't know how deep you go
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within seven months, but have you had to watch him
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being beaten up?
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Well, yeah, you see him like, Things are, when you
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watch it, it's so technical. I don't know what's going on. Like,
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I don't know.
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It's no striking, is it? It's just all, like, holding
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and submissions.
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Right, right, right.
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And you never put full pressure on it. Like, it's
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not like you sort of get it in place and
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then they sort of just tap.
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So it's not like boxing where you'd watch him being
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punched in the face kind of thing.
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Well, at the time, it looks like they're getting hurt.
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They just tap, so it's fine. But I think it's
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one of the best things about it. If you get
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your kids into an activity where you ain't got a
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clue what it's about, I think it's actually better. Because, like,
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I've got half an idea about football. So I think
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if I was watching him do football... You'd have that
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little tendency to start shouting.
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Out like, I'm terrible for that.
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I try not to, even if I'm just being encouraging,
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I'll never be negative, but even the encouragement's too much.
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Whereas my daughter does, plays guitar, right? She plays guitar
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and I haven't got a musical bone in my body.
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Get your fucking finger on the fourth fret, you prick.
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I don't even know what threat is, like nothing. So
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I love it because I just sit and watch in awe.
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Whereas in football, I'm a bit like, get in the
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fucking space, pull, and I'm like, shut up, Rob. I
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hate myself when I'm watching my kids play football.
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Imagine when your kids start getting into standup and you're
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just from the sidelines going.
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No, no, no. Observation, observation.
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Pull back and reveal.
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Get to the fucking punchline. For God's sake. Why are
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you asking the audience if they've ever been to Pratt?
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You don't need that bit. Just say you were in Pratt.
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We all know what Pratt is. We all know what
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Pratt is. And if they don't, asking them is not
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going to help. Don't be afraid to do an act out.
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You've got good accents. Use them. All of it's showing off.
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Don't worry. Jack, you took your son. How core memory
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is this? So for people that aren't aware of football,
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Crystal Palace have never won a trophy. Is that right?
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And then they were playing Man City who, while they
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didn't win the league, are the biggest team probably in
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the world or Europe, certainly financially. And you played them
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in the FA Cup final and you took your son
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and you won. And I saw you the day of
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the semi-final and you were very excited. What was that
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day like? Were you with your dad as well?
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Yeah, mate. It was the three generations, plus my brother
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as well. I can't talk enough about how amazing it was.
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Did your daughter go? Was she not into it?
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I said, do you want to go?
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She was like, no, I don't want to. She had
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the option.
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She's like that. She just says, nah.
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You want to go?
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This is quite a big family memory. You said to
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me you weren't going to offer her a ticket because
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you didn't think girls should like football.
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I'd say that was between me and you, Josh.
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I thought... You said it was unladylike. That was the
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words you used. They shouldn't be there. She had the option.
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Yeah, she had the option.
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So what was it like? It was amazing. It was tense.
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It was like that.
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It was really tense.
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But I don't know if you saw the video, but
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seeing my son with like, because there was tension when
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that whistle went, him with tears of joy.
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I didn't know how to like.
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Oh my God.
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Because he's only just started getting into football as well.
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Are you worried he's been spoiled?
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With that? Oh, yeah.
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He's not had many years of hurt, really.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like straight away, 10 years old, he's watching his
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team win the FA Cup final.
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Oh, that's an amazing experience, though. I'm real.
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I was on a high for ages after that.
502
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You can pay for things, can't you, to go to
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amazing holidays, amazing experiences.
504
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You can't plan that.
505
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You can't pay the outcome.
506
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That's why live sports is so intoxicating and why it's
507
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so huge.
508
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People can pay for subscription stuff.
509
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You can access stuff whenever you want, but you can't
510
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access victory.
511
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Do you know what I mean?
512
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It just happens if it happens.
513
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If you take the things I've taken my daughter to,
514
00:19:57.789 --> 00:20:01.930
Taylor Swift, it was unlikely to play out any different
515
00:20:01.950 --> 00:20:04.869
than you're not like yeah yeah yeah fucking hell yeah
516
00:20:04.890 --> 00:20:08.190
she fucking brought it tonight half the time she's shit
517
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do you know what I mean like.
518
00:20:09.549 --> 00:20:11.519
Yeah yeah I think that's the thing with having like
519
00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:13.519
a son and a daughter with my son I can
520
00:20:13.539 --> 00:20:15.279
just sort of I can get into his world sort
521
00:20:15.299 --> 00:20:16.519
of straight away do you know what I mean like
522
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if he's anything like I remember being like in football
523
00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:19.859
when I was a kid or anything if he's like
524
00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.420
crashing two cars together I'm like yeah I get that
525
00:20:22.539 --> 00:20:24.759
I sort of understand that mentality but what's lovely about
526
00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:27.220
having a daughter though is like I'm learning her world
527
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as well because I grew up in quite a masculine
528
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environment I mean it was just like my dad my.
529
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Brother I'm exactly the same as you four brothers it
530
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was all football and lads and now like it's actually
531
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I'm loving the sort of novelty of going oh this
532
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whole other world that exists that I had no idea
533
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about it.
534
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Was my when I had the kids I had to
535
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take her to a Christmas choir right she didn't have
536
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a pretty bow to put in her hair. She was
537
00:20:48.150 --> 00:20:50.210
having a bit of a meltdown. That's not like my
538
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lived experience. I don't know the importance of the pretty
539
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bow in the hair. And I was like, oh shit, fuck.
540
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But now every year I'm like, you are getting the
541
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prettiest bow.
542
00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:02.640
Also, what is a pretty bow? How big does it
543
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need to be? What color? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joey.
544
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But I love learning about it.
545
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Get a massive one for a new car.
546
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You will have the best pretty bow.
547
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In the class.
548
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But it's also, it's like, I like doing this thing
549
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as well. When she comes home from school with like,
550
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Because my boy comes over to school, he's like, he
551
00:21:18.059 --> 00:21:20.440
don't really talk. So say a drama's happened to her
552
00:21:20.460 --> 00:21:24.099
that day, like a friend's boring her ruler without asking
553
00:21:24.160 --> 00:21:26.240
or something like that, right? Yeah, instead of going like, oh,
554
00:21:26.259 --> 00:21:28.859
that's all right. I'm like, you're joking, aren't you? I
555
00:21:31.339 --> 00:21:33.160
get well into it, do you know what I mean?
556
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She did what?
557
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.589
Because it's their world, isn't it? That's important.
558
00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:40.309
I've got that kind of situation where my daughter is
559
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in a three, like friendship kind of triangle. Well, there's
560
00:21:44.390 --> 00:21:47.059
four of them actually, and they're very tight friends. But
561
00:21:47.660 --> 00:21:51.250
it's constant. It's not mean girls, but there's constant politics.
562
00:21:51.309 --> 00:21:54.250
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And you
563
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have to remember that this really matters to her in
564
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the same way that it would matter to one of
565
00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.809
us if we thought a comedian... said something shitty to
566
00:22:04.849 --> 00:22:08.210
us backstage or something. But in your head, sometimes you
567
00:22:08.250 --> 00:22:10.430
are going, oh, for fuck's sake, do you not remember
568
00:22:10.470 --> 00:22:12.380
last week? We've literally, you know.
569
00:22:12.859 --> 00:22:14.859
Or who they're sat next to at lunch. He's like,
570
00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:16.660
I was in a dinner queue and then I got
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pushed back because my potato wasn't ready.
572
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So then I didn't get to sit. And you're like,
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oh my God, who gives a fuck? Oh God, sorry
574
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about that.
575
00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:23.509
I do recommend though, do it the other way.
576
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We'll go over the top of your enthusiasm for it.
577
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Just be like, what?
578
00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:29.630
You had to wait for a potato? Without a bow
579
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in your hair? Yeah.
580
00:22:30.829 --> 00:22:32.410
But it's weird though my two daughters one of my
581
00:22:32.450 --> 00:22:34.329
daughters is a bit more like that where she's got
582
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a friendship group there's always a little bit of to
583
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and fro they all get on but there's always like
584
00:22:37.859 --> 00:22:39.799
so and so did this I played with that but
585
00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:41.920
my eldest one she's just sort of friends of everyone
586
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and floats around if I say something to her she's
587
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like yeah fine like I don't know if it's just
588
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a straight gender thing or, you know, she has done that.
589
00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.519
No politics whatsoever. Almost to a point where I'm like,
590
00:22:51.900 --> 00:22:54.460
do you just like wander about not talking to anyone?
591
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What's going on? You need to get in her head, Rob.
592
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You need to care more about your fucking friendships. What
593
00:23:01.009 --> 00:23:02.950
is wrong with you? You should be crying about the
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fucking dinner queue.
595
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Okay.
596
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I'm very much in awe of her. I wish I
597
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was more like her, to be honest.
598
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Do you have that when you're sort of in awe
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of your kids? Do you do that when you sometimes
600
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think your kids, do you think, oh, they're cooler than me?
601
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Like they do things that are a bit like.
602
00:23:13.670 --> 00:23:15.930
Yeah, of course. But you've got to remember how cool
603
00:23:16.009 --> 00:23:18.730
I am, Jack. So there's a very low bar. I
604
00:23:18.750 --> 00:23:19.390
did this thing, right?
605
00:23:19.430 --> 00:23:21.019
I remember we went to Hampton Court and hired out
606
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.680
these boats, right? And sometimes if I get recognised when
607
00:23:23.700 --> 00:23:25.339
I'm out, people do it where they don't... Because I'm
608
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on people's phones.
609
00:23:26.220 --> 00:23:27.000
They look at me and go, what?
610
00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.180
Do I know you? Right? So this bloke, he was
611
00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:30.380
doing it to me. He was hiring the boats off him.
612
00:23:30.900 --> 00:23:31.980
He was going, where do I know you from? And
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I always go... I never want to go It's.
614
00:23:34.150 --> 00:23:36.789
Difficult to go It's a really difficult question.
615
00:23:36.539 --> 00:23:38.170
To answer Do you do funny things on the internet?
616
00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:39.720
Yeah, yeah, yeah Do you know what I mean?
617
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So I just go I don't know, mate I don't
618
00:23:41.019 --> 00:23:42.779
know And my son went to me He went No,
619
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but you just tell him what you do, man You're
620
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making it awkward.
621
00:23:48.220 --> 00:23:51.500
It's made me look a right div I was like Oh.
622
00:23:51.460 --> 00:23:53.660
Yeah, sorry, mate No, just a bit of comedy Talking
623
00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.440
about your comedy You've made the transition So are you
624
00:23:56.460 --> 00:23:57.380
on tour at the moment, Jack?
625
00:23:57.579 --> 00:23:59.589
Yeah, mate Yeah, yeah, yeah So what's the tour called?
626
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:03.490
Let's give everyone a plug Skint Skint, okay And your
627
00:24:03.529 --> 00:24:05.519
kids will have seen this as well in their lifetime.
628
00:24:05.539 --> 00:24:07.660
Yeah, because me and Rob haven't got this with our
629
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kids because we were, and I don't want to say it, Jack,
630
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:13.150
fucking national treasures by the time our kids were born.
631
00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:18.390
We were analogue though, on the telly, analogue known. So
632
00:24:18.589 --> 00:24:20.230
you were doing video, you were just working as a
633
00:24:20.230 --> 00:24:21.380
carpet fitter, was that right?
634
00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:22.019
Yes, yeah, yeah.
635
00:24:22.390 --> 00:24:25.210
Carpet fitter doing funny videos in your van, out of work,
636
00:24:25.230 --> 00:24:27.150
with your mates, blah, blah, blah. They gained more and
637
00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:29.359
more traction and then you was like, right, I've always
638
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:30.960
wanted to do stand-up. Let me try and do actual
639
00:24:30.980 --> 00:24:32.880
stand-up as opposed to the funny videos. You still do
640
00:24:32.900 --> 00:24:35.059
the funny videos that are great and then your stand-up
641
00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:38.000
sort of took off. You got signed by a great management.
642
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.660
You've got a great tour. You've got the materials. Now
643
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:42.970
you're off doing this big national tour where you're selling
644
00:24:43.009 --> 00:24:45.690
out Leicester Square Theatre, your life's changed dramatically.
645
00:24:45.710 --> 00:24:47.269
And how long have you been going? When did you
646
00:24:47.289 --> 00:24:48.549
start doing those videos?
647
00:24:48.609 --> 00:24:49.130
Four years.
648
00:24:49.190 --> 00:24:50.490
But this is a bit of the misconception of it, though.
649
00:24:50.529 --> 00:24:52.130
You're really good. Oh, thanks, mate.
650
00:24:52.150 --> 00:24:54.049
Most people are shit after four years, but you're great.
651
00:24:54.069 --> 00:24:56.670
Yeah, I don't want to, like, you know, make this awkward,
652
00:24:56.769 --> 00:25:00.440
but you often see comics come through and you're like, oh,
653
00:25:00.460 --> 00:25:02.960
they're really good for, like, I can imagine where they're
654
00:25:02.980 --> 00:25:07.400
going to get to. But you're, like, a fully realised stand-up.
655
00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.359
You are, like, a proper stand-up already. Oh, thanks, mate. In, like,
656
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:12.640
you think like a standup and you speak like a
657
00:25:12.660 --> 00:25:17.380
standup and you are so good at it. It's slightly annoying, Jack.
658
00:25:18.579 --> 00:25:19.319
I don't love it.
659
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.900
People are hoping I'm shit. I just feel it.
660
00:25:24.579 --> 00:25:26.339
But also what I think is great for you is
661
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:28.269
what you like, your carpet fit, a working class lad
662
00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:30.970
from South London, but you've got that sort of common
663
00:25:31.029 --> 00:25:33.470
touch and man of the people energy, but also you're
664
00:25:33.690 --> 00:25:37.029
incredibly astute and intelligent with your, comedy where you're coming
665
00:25:37.069 --> 00:25:38.829
at it from about three or four different angles you're
666
00:25:38.849 --> 00:25:41.049
not one route you're not like just i'll just do
667
00:25:41.089 --> 00:25:43.190
this and say this you've got loads of different angles
668
00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:45.059
to it so when you come to your show you
669
00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:46.859
can connect with you straight away because you're a normal
670
00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:48.779
guy with a family and kids and you know you've
671
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:50.819
lived in the real world but also you've got that
672
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.579
extra level that you need where you're coming at it
673
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:54.880
with really good comic ideas which isn't always the case
674
00:25:55.259 --> 00:25:56.849
some people can just ride out on that so it
675
00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:59.210
is brilliant and it's amazing your tour's going so well
676
00:25:59.289 --> 00:26:01.269
so well done mate where are you next where's the
677
00:26:01.309 --> 00:26:02.049
next gig.
678
00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:03.970
I'm in Brighton. I've got two nights in Brighton.
679
00:26:04.269 --> 00:26:04.869
Next two nights.
680
00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:07.150
I'm in Swindon, Leeds.
681
00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:08.490
Yeah. Do you know what though?
682
00:26:08.509 --> 00:26:11.470
This is the little misconception. Because the thing is, I
683
00:26:11.769 --> 00:26:14.109
wanted to do stand-up. I went to start stand-up. I
684
00:26:14.130 --> 00:26:16.880
did like a little course, comedy course. And then what happened,
685
00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:20.720
the pandemic happens. I booked in to do the showcase
686
00:26:20.779 --> 00:26:21.279
gig thing.
687
00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:22.599
What comedy course was this?
688
00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:25.079
The Jill Edwards one in Brighton. Romesh did that.
689
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:26.910
And Sean Walsh. It was a really good one.
690
00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:28.529
But I just, all I had in my head was
691
00:26:28.549 --> 00:26:30.390
stand up. And only because it was the pandemic. My
692
00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:31.569
mate said to me, like, because I used to send
693
00:26:31.589 --> 00:26:33.650
videos to my mates in WhatsApp groups, just having a laugh.
694
00:26:34.190 --> 00:26:35.829
And he was like, put it on TikTok. And I
695
00:26:35.849 --> 00:26:37.970
didn't even add TikTok. And I just downloaded it and
696
00:26:37.990 --> 00:26:38.359
started doing it.
697
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.160
It went straight away. I was getting like, that's mad.
698
00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:41.740
Do you know what my theory is on that, Jack?
699
00:26:41.900 --> 00:26:44.900
So basically, my theory is when you're working class, okay,
700
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.680
from South London, to do anything in the performing arts
701
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:51.299
space is, is proper head above the parapet who do
702
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.339
you think you are you fucking wanker right.
703
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.119
So you don't want to do that so it takes
704
00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:55.440
a long time.
705
00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:58.579
I didn't say that to you exactly so it takes
706
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.619
a lot of time to get your confidence up to
707
00:27:00.640 --> 00:27:03.400
go against the grain so what you've really been doing
708
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.420
is you've been going four years but you've spent probably
709
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.599
the last five to ten years thinking of all these
710
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:10.269
jokes same as when Noel Gallagher came through he'd had
711
00:27:10.329 --> 00:27:12.180
two albums written already do you know what I mean
712
00:27:12.220 --> 00:27:13.869
he just hadn't had the opportunity to do it and
713
00:27:13.890 --> 00:27:16.690
then you've come through TikTok and live and you're smashing
714
00:27:16.730 --> 00:27:18.970
it so So you will stand up originally, but you
715
00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:21.150
use TikTok to sort of break through essentially.
716
00:27:21.289 --> 00:27:22.690
Because I think that's it. Like you two sit there
717
00:27:22.710 --> 00:27:25.430
saying you're analog. I've got the analog brain. I mean,
718
00:27:25.470 --> 00:27:27.250
I don't even know how to like edit videos, but
719
00:27:27.329 --> 00:27:29.089
it's not. And I think that's it. Like when I
720
00:27:29.109 --> 00:27:32.029
started things like blowing up online. I was having fun
721
00:27:32.069 --> 00:27:34.009
doing it. But for me, it's always been stand-up. I mean,
722
00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:37.490
I grew up watching Lee Evans VHSs. That's what I
723
00:27:37.509 --> 00:27:40.990
thought a comedian was. I think young people doing TikToks now,
724
00:27:41.690 --> 00:27:45.400
they're purely about videos and generalizing. But it's not like
725
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.079
I've gained a load of followers and I thought, oh,
726
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:48.720
I might capitalize on this and do a tour.
727
00:27:48.740 --> 00:27:49.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
728
00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:51.380
I wanted to do a tour. Then it started blowing up.
729
00:27:51.559 --> 00:27:52.940
I proper care about a stand-up.
730
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:53.460
That's what it is.
731
00:27:53.779 --> 00:27:55.940
Tell me about what it's been like for your kids then.
732
00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:58.640
So how old were they when you... So it was
733
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:00.589
the pandemic. So your son would have been like six
734
00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:03.849
or something, five or six when you started this. And
735
00:28:03.910 --> 00:28:07.069
what's it been like for them to watch you kind of, like,
736
00:28:07.109 --> 00:28:08.089
when did you go professional?
737
00:28:08.490 --> 00:28:11.069
About two years ago. But I think for them, like
738
00:28:11.089 --> 00:28:13.410
they don't, I think they treat it a bit differently.
739
00:28:13.509 --> 00:28:15.049
At first, they have people come up to him in
740
00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:18.190
school and stuff. And he like, is Jack Skipper your
741
00:28:18.210 --> 00:28:20.460
dad thing? But they sort of shrug it off. But
742
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.319
then I think my son quite likes it. But I
743
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.660
remember like, I went to this little local festival at
744
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:26.460
a park near me, like, you know, the little fun
745
00:28:26.500 --> 00:28:27.220
fair festival.
746
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:27.319
Yeah.
747
00:28:28.059 --> 00:28:29.740
And some woman, she was like a drunk woman, like
748
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:31.019
kept coming up to me trying to get a selfie,
749
00:28:31.259 --> 00:28:34.319
bit much. And my little girl, she's just like proper staring,
750
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:35.279
like cuddled onto me.
751
00:28:35.299 --> 00:28:36.460
Like staring her out.
752
00:28:36.470 --> 00:28:37.079
She didn't like it.
753
00:28:37.089 --> 00:28:37.890
It's new to them.
754
00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:38.690
Yeah. So it's a bit weird.
755
00:28:38.710 --> 00:28:39.990
So you have to try and explain that to them.
756
00:28:40.369 --> 00:28:42.069
But I did, I mean, early this year when I
757
00:28:42.109 --> 00:28:44.049
did the, Oh, did the marathon.
758
00:28:44.309 --> 00:28:45.390
Before I just drop that in there.
759
00:28:46.130 --> 00:28:46.789
Fucking A, mate.
760
00:28:46.809 --> 00:28:51.890
Well done. Quit your carpet fitting job, national tour, running marathons,
761
00:28:51.930 --> 00:28:52.390
fucking A.
762
00:28:52.390 --> 00:28:55.210
Michael, put the time code 22 to 45 for cutting.
763
00:28:55.509 --> 00:28:57.369
Anyway, I've got a relevant story to do with that.
764
00:28:57.430 --> 00:28:59.190
Yeah, go on.
765
00:29:01.589 --> 00:29:03.519
No, but basically, when you go afterwards, like, and when
766
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:05.670
you put in that little pen with like other, like,
767
00:29:06.059 --> 00:29:08.019
people doing it. And then when my kids could come
768
00:29:08.059 --> 00:29:09.819
in and they were seeing me with people off the
769
00:29:09.859 --> 00:29:10.819
telly sort of thing.
770
00:29:10.859 --> 00:29:13.049
For people that don't know, if you're doing the marathon
771
00:29:13.089 --> 00:29:15.829
and you're a celebrity, there's basically like a celebrity VIP
772
00:29:15.869 --> 00:29:18.910
section that you can go in to get ready before
773
00:29:18.950 --> 00:29:19.589
you go, isn't it?
774
00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:21.960
Compared to the rest of the public. So who's in there?
775
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.700
Talk me through some of the names in there, Skip.
776
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:24.980
That's a random mix, isn't it?
777
00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:26.839
Joel was there, Joel Dobbit, and the kids like watching
778
00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:28.579
Mars Singer and things like that. Romesh was there.
779
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:29.059
Chris Evans.
780
00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:33.950
Chris Evans. Gordon Ramsay. Ian Bill. Oh, Ian Bill. Here
781
00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:37.640
we go. Someone's from the analogue generation, aren't they? Do
782
00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:39.000
you know what?
783
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.099
Out of all the people I've met, that was the
784
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:42.880
biggest one I regret not getting a selfie with.
785
00:29:43.220 --> 00:29:46.460
Ian Beale. You'll get another chance. Don't worry about that, Skipper.
786
00:29:46.539 --> 00:29:47.619
Get in that pen next year.
787
00:29:47.779 --> 00:29:50.160
I still do like Celebrity Spot because obviously you've rubbed
788
00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:52.250
shoulders with quite big people nowadays. But the other day
789
00:29:52.269 --> 00:29:54.509
I was in Gatwick Airport and I saw Craig Fairbrass.
790
00:29:55.029 --> 00:29:56.150
Oh, he lives near me.
791
00:29:56.190 --> 00:29:59.660
I was like, oh yeah? Where's he going? Marbella?
792
00:30:01.500 --> 00:30:03.559
I love the fact that you were excited about me
793
00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:05.900
seeing someone that lives probably about eight miles from your
794
00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:08.579
house at a hotel, about airport, about 10 miles from
795
00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:08.819
your house.
796
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.440
How have the kids found it though?
797
00:30:11.509 --> 00:30:13.269
Because you're at the stage of your career now where
798
00:30:13.309 --> 00:30:15.490
me and Josh were quite lucky that the real, real
799
00:30:15.589 --> 00:30:18.680
hard graft that you're in now where you're blowing up,
800
00:30:18.690 --> 00:30:20.769
you're getting all these opportunities, that happened to us.
801
00:30:21.190 --> 00:30:23.470
Before our kids come along. Where you can't say no
802
00:30:23.490 --> 00:30:23.849
to things.
803
00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:26.650
Whereas now we've got a little bit more grace to
804
00:30:26.670 --> 00:30:27.890
be able to go, no, look, can we move that
805
00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:29.250
or do that? Or are you at the point where
806
00:30:29.349 --> 00:30:31.710
everyone's going, oh, Jack Skipper, he's great. Let's get him
807
00:30:31.769 --> 00:30:33.569
on stuff. And you don't really want to say no
808
00:30:33.910 --> 00:30:36.329
because it's your first opportunity with people. How are you
809
00:30:36.349 --> 00:30:39.059
managing that? Because we know what it's like. There's kids clubs,
810
00:30:39.099 --> 00:30:42.980
there's performances, there's football, there's dance clubs. How are you
811
00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:46.460
managing to capitalise on the career whilst keep the kids happy?
812
00:30:46.710 --> 00:30:47.490
And the family happy.
813
00:30:47.690 --> 00:30:49.490
I'll be honest, Rob, I'm still trying to work it
814
00:30:49.609 --> 00:30:50.680
out because it is hard, isn't it?
815
00:30:50.779 --> 00:30:51.210
It's tricky.
816
00:30:51.259 --> 00:30:54.180
I'm trying to like, because it's that weird thing because
817
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.380
you have an internal battle within it because like, I
818
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:58.289
work so hard and they're the reason I'm doing it.
819
00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:00.339
Like, they're the whole reason I'm doing it. Do you
820
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:01.259
know what I mean?
821
00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:03.029
Like, I'm not getting too deep on it. I reckon
822
00:31:03.029 --> 00:31:05.829
80% ego. I reckon 80% ego. 50-50, isn't it?
823
00:31:07.690 --> 00:31:10.569
But whereas me, like, because like, Growing up, I didn't ever,
824
00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:12.869
I don't want to get into it too much, but
825
00:31:13.269 --> 00:31:15.609
I never really had anything to fall back on.
826
00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:17.230
I had to just keep working hard.
827
00:31:17.619 --> 00:31:19.869
I didn't have time to come up for air and go,
828
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:20.920
what do I actually want to do with my life?
829
00:31:21.539 --> 00:31:23.720
From the age of 16, to keep grafting, keep grafting.
830
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:25.579
I didn't even have to live on my own, do
831
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.099
that sort of stuff. All I work hard for is
832
00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:30.119
for them to just have a little bit of time
833
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:30.940
on their side to.
834
00:31:30.819 --> 00:31:31.220
Go, right.
835
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:33.299
What do I want to do in my life? And
836
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:34.799
I think that's why, because I know how it feels
837
00:31:34.819 --> 00:31:35.490
when you've just got to.
838
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.059
Well, at 16, straight on that treadmill, go, right, okay,
839
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:39.750
especially if you're living on your own, I've got to
840
00:31:39.769 --> 00:31:40.190
pay bills.
841
00:31:40.470 --> 00:31:40.670
Yeah.
842
00:31:40.710 --> 00:31:41.250
I've got to work.
843
00:31:41.490 --> 00:31:43.109
And then by then, you're like, well, I haven't got
844
00:31:43.130 --> 00:31:44.369
any time to think about what I want to be
845
00:31:44.430 --> 00:31:45.829
or what I want to do because I need to
846
00:31:45.849 --> 00:31:47.839
get 800 quid out in for this month.
847
00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:48.900
Yeah, that's it. And then we go again.
848
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:50.819
And it's hard to find the space.
849
00:31:50.940 --> 00:31:52.829
It's the famous thing that working class parents tell you.
850
00:31:52.859 --> 00:31:54.900
They do the thing where they go, get yourself a trade.
851
00:31:54.940 --> 00:31:56.440
You'll always have something to fall back on. But what
852
00:31:56.460 --> 00:31:58.319
happens is you go and get a trade and you
853
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.920
don't get a chance to fall back on it because.
854
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:01.589
It's just your life.
855
00:32:01.609 --> 00:32:02.190
You're falling in on it.
856
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:02.309
Yeah.
857
00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:04.509
Do you know what I mean? It's like, that's the
858
00:32:04.529 --> 00:32:05.900
reason I work hard for them. But they're not like,
859
00:32:06.130 --> 00:32:07.589
we're going on, I'll get a little break from the
860
00:32:07.609 --> 00:32:09.609
tour in a couple of weeks. So in July, we're
861
00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:12.789
going just the three of us to Spain. That'll be like,
862
00:32:12.829 --> 00:32:15.970
you know, phones away, work away, like we're just in
863
00:32:15.990 --> 00:32:17.720
the pool with the kids. And you're co-parenting, aren't you?
864
00:32:17.730 --> 00:32:19.000
I don't know how much you want to talk about it,
865
00:32:19.009 --> 00:32:21.250
but you're co-parenting, you're not with their mum at the moment.
866
00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:23.990
So it's like balancing that time with them around the
867
00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:26.339
tour must be difficult, you know, because it's not always,
868
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:27.460
I mean, you know, I don't know what the situation
869
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.359
is like, but sometimes it's not always as easy as
870
00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:31.259
when you're together still trying to find the time. Yeah,
871
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.259
but we've got a good like co-parenting relationship. So it's
872
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.859
like we can be flexible because there is, you know,
873
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.119
there are, well, you boys know, like there's things that
874
00:32:38.140 --> 00:32:40.119
do come up last minute and we split the weeks.
875
00:32:40.890 --> 00:32:43.319
And if it's one of my nights, I'm like, I've
876
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:44.900
got to go and do this thing. But I'll always
877
00:32:44.980 --> 00:32:45.640
make up the time.
878
00:32:46.109 --> 00:32:46.789
Do you know what I mean?
879
00:32:46.809 --> 00:32:48.309
But also like, I know exactly what it's like though.
880
00:32:48.329 --> 00:32:49.589
So like, you know, you might split the week and
881
00:32:49.609 --> 00:32:51.509
if you've got a normal nine to five, you go, okay,
882
00:32:51.529 --> 00:32:53.630
well I'll pick them up Wednesday from school, have them
883
00:32:53.650 --> 00:32:56.250
through till Saturday, drop them back Sunday or whatever. But
884
00:32:56.289 --> 00:32:58.289
like when you're doing our job, you could get a
885
00:32:58.289 --> 00:33:00.210
phone call right this second. I mean, like we were
886
00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:02.410
talking earlier, Josh is doing the wheel tonight. You're on
887
00:33:02.470 --> 00:33:04.789
standby for the wheel between, aren't you? So at any
888
00:33:04.829 --> 00:33:06.470
point someone could go, right, you've got to come and
889
00:33:06.490 --> 00:33:08.410
do the wheel and it'll be a good payer and
890
00:33:08.430 --> 00:33:11.259
you can't really go, no, because you're doing it for
891
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:12.559
them because you're all, if I do that, we can
892
00:33:12.579 --> 00:33:14.839
have another holiday or, you know, this sorts Christmas out.
893
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.160
But I always worry that I'm sort of overdoing it
894
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.539
with trying to like, trying to over-explain to them. You
895
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:21.039
do know that I'm doing, do you know what I mean?
896
00:33:21.059 --> 00:33:23.680
Because they're quite, they're quite chilled anyway. They are good kids.
897
00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:24.880
I know I would say that because they're my kids,
898
00:33:24.900 --> 00:33:27.420
but like, they don't really kick up a stink about it.
899
00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:28.259
Do you know what I mean?
900
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:29.920
Like, they don't seem that bothered. And I always try
901
00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:30.589
and overdo it.
902
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:33.500
In their head, it probably won't be as, as long
903
00:33:33.539 --> 00:33:36.279
as you're not like consistently pulling out on their birthday
904
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.460
because you're doing, you know, Russell Kane's tour support or whatever.
905
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.609
But like, in their head, they're not adding up. My
906
00:33:43.650 --> 00:33:46.089
mum's done four days and my dad's only done three
907
00:33:46.130 --> 00:33:48.109
days this week. Do you know what I mean?
908
00:33:48.190 --> 00:33:49.910
One bit of advice I'd say, which helped me out
909
00:33:49.930 --> 00:33:51.849
when they were younger, I'd said for about two years,
910
00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:53.089
I just said no to working.
911
00:33:52.890 --> 00:33:53.430
On a Sunday.
912
00:33:53.450 --> 00:33:54.579
All right, Dan Walker.
913
00:33:54.950 --> 00:33:57.200
No, but apart from tour shows, there's not a lot
914
00:33:57.220 --> 00:34:00.519
of gigs. You're not doing club gigs. They're Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
915
00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:03.200
On Sunday, no one really does that much telly. There's
916
00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:05.759
not many telly opportunities on a Sunday. Most of it's
917
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.380
during the week on Friday, Saturday. And then that way,
918
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.570
if they know that there's an anchor point that you go,
919
00:34:09.630 --> 00:34:12.269
I can do Sundays, and you sort of corner that off,
920
00:34:12.869 --> 00:34:15.409
at least for both you and them, there's that slight consistency.
921
00:34:15.429 --> 00:34:18.219
This is why Rob is now increasingly styling his hair
922
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:19.179
like Jesus as well.
923
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:21.360
This is all part of this transformation.
924
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.059
That for me really helped because at least then I
925
00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:27.780
thought well if I'm going to pick one day that
926
00:34:27.820 --> 00:34:29.579
is a good day because I won't be getting emails
927
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.199
either no one's in the office there's not much TV
928
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.400
work on there's not many and even tour shows don't
929
00:34:34.460 --> 00:34:36.079
sell that well on a Sunday or if they do
930
00:34:36.099 --> 00:34:38.300
they're a bit low energy so if you can sort
931
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.639
of try and use that to protect yourself that does help.
932
00:34:40.539 --> 00:34:42.260
And use it come to one of Rob's meetings and
933
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:44.090
you're just going to chat about the meaning of life
934
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.489
right there's no pressure.
935
00:34:46.449 --> 00:34:48.829
It is so hard and I really empathise with Jack
936
00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:51.090
I feel like Jack's going through what I went through
937
00:34:51.150 --> 00:34:52.889
about 8-10 years ago do you know who.
938
00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:55.889
Had empathy Rob Our Lord Jesus Christ would love it.
939
00:34:55.929 --> 00:34:56.699
He did.
940
00:34:57.190 --> 00:34:59.590
Just, look, Jack, bring the kids to my house every Sunday.
941
00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:00.809
There's a few people that meet up.
942
00:35:00.829 --> 00:35:02.710
You'll have to pay me 100 grand a year, but
943
00:35:02.730 --> 00:35:04.550
that will cover your spirit and soul.
944
00:35:04.750 --> 00:35:07.110
We walk out into the woods. You can't take that
945
00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:08.489
money into heaven.
946
00:35:08.929 --> 00:35:12.250
I tell you what's going on, you're more like a
947
00:35:12.269 --> 00:35:15.300
creepy leader. My girls bought a necklace from Spain that
948
00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:17.119
they're making me wear, and it's like a little crystal.
949
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:18.260
Oh, here it is.
950
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.840
Oh no welcome i'm the new cult leader you're six
951
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.139
months away from being baptized in the thames by bear
952
00:35:25.179 --> 00:35:29.159
grills aren't you wearing a tunic look man just the
953
00:35:29.300 --> 00:35:32.519
msm is just bullshit and i don't think time we
954
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.840
speak to internet people about real truth.
955
00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:37.860
And just on this subject obviously just at any point
956
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.719
just say now what was it like establishing a a
957
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:45.710
healthy kind of co-parenting situation because I've it seems like
958
00:35:45.730 --> 00:35:47.130
you're in a really good place with her and when
959
00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:48.929
I've spoken to you about it it seems like it's
960
00:35:49.510 --> 00:35:51.630
you know you've got a really good relationship but was
961
00:35:51.670 --> 00:35:54.110
that a tough journey yeah.
962
00:35:53.969 --> 00:35:55.409
It can be tough but it's just a type of
963
00:35:55.449 --> 00:35:57.480
relationship isn't it and any relationship is like that isn't
964
00:35:57.500 --> 00:35:59.440
it it's just about learning how to deal with it
965
00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:00.139
but yeah we're.
966
00:36:00.059 --> 00:36:02.519
At a point now where it is like it's much more.
967
00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:04.719
Yeah you're both parents aren't you you're both trying to
968
00:36:04.780 --> 00:36:06.559
raise the kids and they come first isn't it so.
969
00:36:06.460 --> 00:36:07.840
I thought he was asking us then I was like
970
00:36:07.860 --> 00:36:12.250
yeah he's actually much research yeah Would there be any
971
00:36:12.289 --> 00:36:14.969
advice you'd give to anyone that like is trying to
972
00:36:15.030 --> 00:36:17.409
manage that in the early stages of that, that you
973
00:36:17.429 --> 00:36:18.409
sort of learned from yourself?
974
00:36:18.869 --> 00:36:21.570
It's obvious, and it's a bit cliche, but just kids
975
00:36:21.610 --> 00:36:23.190
come first, isn't it?
976
00:36:23.210 --> 00:36:24.510
That's all that matters.
977
00:36:24.530 --> 00:36:26.670
You've just got to make sure they're, you know, and
978
00:36:26.690 --> 00:36:30.309
if you've got any of your own personal way you're feeling, right,
979
00:36:31.150 --> 00:36:32.289
just all you've got to do is look at the
980
00:36:32.309 --> 00:36:35.050
kids and ask, are they happy? And if that's, if they,
981
00:36:35.070 --> 00:36:37.670
you know, anything new personal you're going on or any
982
00:36:37.710 --> 00:36:41.440
little like problem or any, thing you're niggling at you
983
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:42.739
just look at the kid and go if they look
984
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.719
happy then i ain't got much to worry about yeah
985
00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:46.679
yeah because because you could you could they could be
986
00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:48.760
saying giving you the ump and you realize oh this
987
00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:50.920
is the personal thing about me i mean it's.
988
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.719
Not well if that you know if it's your time
989
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.039
to have them but the mum's having a fun party
990
00:36:55.059 --> 00:36:56.340
thing that happens to fall on that day and they
991
00:36:56.380 --> 00:36:58.420
go oh dad can we stay and have this barbecue
992
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:00.360
because it's a family thing part of you goes like
993
00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:01.739
well but it's my day i want to be but
994
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.619
then if they're buzzing for it then it's almost like
995
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.099
you've got to go Okay, yeah, and park your own feelings.
996
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.880
I'll give you a good example. So they went on holiday.
997
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:15.559
Without me, they went on holiday half term abroad. And
998
00:37:15.579 --> 00:37:16.840
I had that little feeling where you do get a
999
00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:17.969
little bit, oh, I wish I was there with him.
1000
00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:18.559
Do you know what I mean?
1001
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.900
And I got a little bit inside myself and all that.
1002
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.380
But I've turned around, I had to look at myself.
1003
00:37:23.460 --> 00:37:25.639
And so on the day they was going on holiday,
1004
00:37:25.659 --> 00:37:27.159
I had him for the morning. So I thought, instead
1005
00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:29.519
of moping around going, oh yeah, I took my boy
1006
00:37:29.539 --> 00:37:30.940
to get his hair cut. I took my girl to
1007
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:31.699
get her nails done.
1008
00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:32.480
Oh, that's lovely.
1009
00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:35.079
Got excited for him. And I felt bad. Do you
1010
00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:35.980
know what I mean?
1011
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:36.579
I felt bad.
1012
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.099
Rather than going, just getting around going, you're going to
1013
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:39.500
miss me.
1014
00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:40.059
Yeah.
1015
00:37:40.099 --> 00:37:40.239
Yeah.
1016
00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:43.599
Do you know what I mean?
1017
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:45.460
Like, you might as well get on their level, get
1018
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.230
excited for it, but then you'll feel better for it,
1019
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:48.469
you know?
1020
00:37:48.710 --> 00:37:49.030
That's great.
1021
00:37:49.050 --> 00:37:50.769
That's brilliant advice. That's a really healthy way of looking
1022
00:37:50.809 --> 00:37:50.989
at it.
1023
00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:55.250
Yeah. And do you find, what's it like when you, like,
1024
00:37:55.289 --> 00:37:57.750
so they've gone away for a week. That must be
1025
00:37:57.849 --> 00:37:59.389
quite surreal because.
1026
00:37:59.750 --> 00:38:01.150
Josh, you get at the point that he's going to
1027
00:38:01.190 --> 00:38:03.170
get more free time on his own than you really want.
1028
00:38:03.230 --> 00:38:04.949
Is that what you're... I'm not saying that, Josh.
1029
00:38:04.969 --> 00:38:08.010
The jealousy Josh has got for co-parents and having extra
1030
00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:09.510
spare time is insane.
1031
00:38:09.530 --> 00:38:11.570
We give you guys a lot of pity, but I'm
1032
00:38:11.590 --> 00:38:12.550
saying the best of both worlds.
1033
00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:17.099
No, I mean, do you know what, though?
1034
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.500
Thankfully, I was busy.
1035
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:18.980
I was like.
1036
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.219
I had a tour date and then I was in the...
1037
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.780
Kilkenny for a comedy festival.
1038
00:38:24.940 --> 00:38:27.920
Are you still just loving the.
1039
00:38:28.219 --> 00:38:31.199
Because in my head, the thought of going to Kilkenny,
1040
00:38:31.420 --> 00:38:33.780
I would rather fucking die than go to Kilkenny for
1041
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.800
a comedy festival. Are you still at a stage where
1042
00:38:36.900 --> 00:38:38.239
everything's really exciting?
1043
00:38:38.559 --> 00:38:44.530
Nah. No, Joe, it's just started to pivot now where
1044
00:38:44.570 --> 00:38:47.929
it's like... I realised last week, right? Because the fun
1045
00:38:47.949 --> 00:38:50.190
of staying in hotels is gone now. I used to
1046
00:38:50.230 --> 00:38:52.969
be like... Even if I was feeling... like rough or
1047
00:38:52.989 --> 00:38:54.489
whatever I'd get up for the breakfast I'm having a
1048
00:38:54.530 --> 00:38:57.030
breakfast now I'm like fuck the breakfast.
1049
00:38:57.050 --> 00:39:00.650
I'm taking the I don't I don't I don't give
1050
00:39:00.670 --> 00:39:03.280
a shit now it's like that because if I had
1051
00:39:03.739 --> 00:39:03.980
if I.
1052
00:39:03.929 --> 00:39:05.480
Could I'd just be with the kids do you know what.
1053
00:39:05.420 --> 00:39:08.300
I mean yeah good news is I'm 15 years in
1054
00:39:08.420 --> 00:39:11.000
you're four years in and this year I only spent
1055
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.559
112 nights in hotel rooms so you know as.
1056
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:14.679
It progresses.
1057
00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:19.039
Rob is having an affair to be fair absolutely.
1058
00:39:18.389 --> 00:39:23.510
Yeah But I am still like having fun with like,
1059
00:39:23.530 --> 00:39:25.710
you know, because this is my first tour. So like
1060
00:39:25.769 --> 00:39:29.530
the shows and people coming out, that's still like overwhelming.
1061
00:39:29.550 --> 00:39:31.570
So you say, you like them shows in Leicester Square.
1062
00:39:32.179 --> 00:39:34.179
It's mad when you're like on the wedding, you're looking
1063
00:39:34.219 --> 00:39:36.559
at people going out for a night out, dressed up.
1064
00:39:36.699 --> 00:39:39.000
They got a baby, they're going out and you're thinking, fuck,
1065
00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:39.699
I'm the night out.
1066
00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:41.599
Like they're going to see me.
1067
00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:42.619
That's mental. That's a mad.
1068
00:39:45.699 --> 00:39:47.599
Feeling but it's do you know what i also what
1069
00:39:47.619 --> 00:39:49.420
i'm loving though this is the like with the tour
1070
00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:51.659
um because i obviously have like a lot of things
1071
00:39:51.699 --> 00:39:54.559
i do is online like but this is like you're
1072
00:39:54.619 --> 00:39:57.920
seeing your audience you're working out who they are and
1073
00:39:57.940 --> 00:39:59.579
what is wicked that you don't because you don't obviously
1074
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.840
don't get to choose your audience do you but what's
1075
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:03.989
wicked like they're all coming out and the sort of
1076
00:40:04.090 --> 00:40:06.889
they're all different ages backgrounds but the main thing is
1077
00:40:06.909 --> 00:40:09.030
they're just people coming out for a laugh which is
1078
00:40:09.269 --> 00:40:11.289
like yeah i think it's important for comedy isn't it
1079
00:40:11.329 --> 00:40:12.809
like some people don't think.
1080
00:40:12.710 --> 00:40:23.519
So yeah Oh, you remember my audience then, Jack? Tell
1081
00:40:23.539 --> 00:40:25.679
me about cheerleading, Jack. What is that?
1082
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:30.480
Like your daughter's a cheerleader. So is that like a competition? Yeah,
1083
00:40:30.500 --> 00:40:31.300
I don't.
1084
00:40:31.500 --> 00:40:33.480
Again, I don't know what's going on there. I'm just
1085
00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.199
there being supportive.
1086
00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:37.590
Can you watch or is it a drop off and go?
1087
00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:40.369
No, the training.
1088
00:40:40.389 --> 00:40:42.849
So she does like two hours on a Monday. I'll
1089
00:40:42.869 --> 00:40:43.909
drop her off at half four, pick her up at
1090
00:40:43.929 --> 00:40:45.130
half six. It's like two hours.
1091
00:40:45.469 --> 00:40:46.360
Jesus. Blimey.
1092
00:40:46.739 --> 00:40:48.940
But then you go to the competitions and the thing
1093
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.190
with the competitions is that's pretty much like a day
1094
00:40:51.230 --> 00:40:54.550
event and my daughter's routine is about four minutes long.
1095
00:40:56.300 --> 00:40:57.599
Oh, they love doing that.
1096
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.840
Dragging you all in for a fucking admission fee to
1097
00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:02.059
watch the other kids jump about.
1098
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:07.070
Then you're just a bloke there watching other little girls dancing.
1099
00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:09.750
It's a weird... Yeah, because if.
1100
00:41:09.690 --> 00:41:12.110
You don't know them, I feel like you should leave.
1101
00:41:12.309 --> 00:41:14.670
Yeah, do you know what I mean? You're related to
1102
00:41:14.690 --> 00:41:16.780
these children. No, we'll get the fuck out the hall,
1103
00:41:16.820 --> 00:41:17.360
you pervert.
1104
00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:19.820
It's exactly what it's like.
1105
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.900
Just sitting watching other children cheerlead.
1106
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.840
Yeah. So I take her along to the competition.
1107
00:41:24.940 --> 00:41:27.739
I did one last Saturday or Saturday before.
1108
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:28.760
I took her to one.
1109
00:41:28.820 --> 00:41:31.239
It was her competition. And I walked in and you
1110
00:41:31.260 --> 00:41:33.039
had to go and collect the bands and then queue
1111
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:34.980
up and go in for the tickets to get in.
1112
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:35.780
And I walked in.
1113
00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:37.500
I was like, where do I collect the things from?
1114
00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:39.260
She went, oh, just that desk over there. I walked
1115
00:41:39.300 --> 00:41:40.679
up to the front desk, collected the band. I said, oh,
1116
00:41:40.699 --> 00:41:42.610
do I just stand in this queue here now? She goes, no,
1117
00:41:42.619 --> 00:41:45.000
that's the queue for the bands. I just pushed all
1118
00:41:45.019 --> 00:41:47.809
the way to the front desk. It was just a
1119
00:41:47.829 --> 00:41:49.989
half hour queue. And I just see all the moms going, oh,
1120
00:41:49.989 --> 00:41:52.889
he's got a few followers on TikTok. Now he thinks
1121
00:41:52.909 --> 00:41:56.090
he can fucking walk straight in it. And then I
1122
00:41:56.150 --> 00:41:57.230
even said to, I said to one of the moms,
1123
00:41:57.250 --> 00:41:59.110
I said, I thought, I went, oh, I think I've just,
1124
00:41:59.590 --> 00:42:00.420
I think I've just pushed in.
1125
00:42:00.429 --> 00:42:03.880
She went, yeah, you have. And I was like, oh, fuck.
1126
00:42:04.139 --> 00:42:06.420
I was like, public enemy number one. So I just went,
1127
00:42:06.539 --> 00:42:07.019
went ahead.
1128
00:42:07.099 --> 00:42:10.119
So my question on that that came up there is
1129
00:42:10.139 --> 00:42:13.730
that your son's 10, your daughter's nine. What's, What's the
1130
00:42:13.909 --> 00:42:17.280
age difference there? That's quite a close one, isn't it?
1131
00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:19.289
It's quite a close one, but my boy is 11
1132
00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:20.449
on Sunday.
1133
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:21.360
Oh, right.
1134
00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:22.139
Yeah, 18 months, yeah.
1135
00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:25.659
Oh, so how was that back in the day? The
1136
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.840
18-month and a baby, that must have been intense.
1137
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:29.920
It was intense, but I think sometimes if you have
1138
00:42:29.940 --> 00:42:33.420
them that close together, it's like... Because they all act
1139
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.849
like twins, really. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
1140
00:42:35.949 --> 00:42:39.000
And it's... I don't know, because I've got no reference
1141
00:42:39.139 --> 00:42:40.280
to doing it any other way, really.
1142
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:42.659
What's the distance with yours, Rob? Two and a half years?
1143
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:43.250
Two years.
1144
00:42:43.369 --> 00:42:44.110
Two years.
1145
00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:46.650
Bang on two years. But yeah, it was fun.
1146
00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:50.010
Basically, as soon as the youngest one could waddle around,
1147
00:42:50.389 --> 00:42:52.690
they would play together. But that bit when you had
1148
00:42:52.730 --> 00:42:55.170
a baby and the other little one crawling around, that
1149
00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:56.409
was hard.
1150
00:42:56.449 --> 00:42:57.289
Running about, that was hard.
1151
00:42:57.389 --> 00:42:58.980
Rob, do your kids fight now?
1152
00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:01.360
Do they fight?
1153
00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:03.260
They don't really fight. They get on really well. They
1154
00:43:03.300 --> 00:43:04.199
occasionally argue.
1155
00:43:04.949 --> 00:43:08.349
And what more often happens is the older one will
1156
00:43:08.389 --> 00:43:12.199
try and sort of like out-intelligence the younger one by
1157
00:43:12.340 --> 00:43:14.440
saying something to get her in trouble. And then she'll
1158
00:43:14.460 --> 00:43:16.880
like kick back and say something else to her. And
1159
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:18.719
then they'll come back going, she said this, she said this.
1160
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:22.050
But they don't actually physically fight. It's like Trump and Musk,
1161
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.369
isn't it? Yeah, it's more like Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
1162
00:43:24.389 --> 00:43:26.170
They have a bit of that. But they're actually quite good.
1163
00:43:26.250 --> 00:43:29.130
So we try and do separate stuff with them. So
1164
00:43:29.170 --> 00:43:30.809
my daughter was at a party at the weekend. So
1165
00:43:30.849 --> 00:43:32.900
I took my other daughter to the park. because I
1166
00:43:32.920 --> 00:43:34.800
think sometimes when they're, I don't know if you have this.
1167
00:43:35.659 --> 00:43:36.539
Yeah, it was a birthday.
1168
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:38.719
But I think sometimes.
1169
00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:40.929
When they're too close and they act like twins, they
1170
00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:43.610
don't get enough one-on-one time because you just couple them
1171
00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:45.769
together and go, right, you two are on. So sometimes
1172
00:43:45.789 --> 00:43:47.329
you don't have direct chat with them.
1173
00:43:47.349 --> 00:43:49.750
That is one of the hard thing about single parent
1174
00:43:49.769 --> 00:43:53.070
or co-parenting. I think as well with a son and daughter,
1175
00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:55.210
because like on your own going, right, what can we
1176
00:43:55.230 --> 00:43:56.769
all do together that we're all going to enjoy?
1177
00:43:57.090 --> 00:43:58.510
And they are quite different. Do you know what I mean?
1178
00:43:58.530 --> 00:44:02.250
So like I'd go like over the park, My boy
1179
00:44:02.269 --> 00:44:04.269
loves football with him, but my little girl wants to
1180
00:44:04.289 --> 00:44:05.530
go on the seesaw.
1181
00:44:05.550 --> 00:44:06.030
Do you know what I mean?
1182
00:44:06.070 --> 00:44:08.809
It's that thing you've got to try and find that balance.
1183
00:44:09.230 --> 00:44:11.130
Is there anything that they both like that you end
1184
00:44:11.190 --> 00:44:12.269
up doing? Cinema, maybe?
1185
00:44:12.590 --> 00:44:14.989
Cinema, things like that.
1186
00:44:15.110 --> 00:44:17.260
I'll go down to the arcade. We just go for
1187
00:44:17.300 --> 00:44:19.920
walks or do things like that. We borrow my dad's dog.
1188
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.360
I go do dog walks and that sort of stuff.
1189
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.840
I ain't giving a dog no way. We just borrow one.
1190
00:44:25.860 --> 00:44:28.260
They do this thing though, if they're together. They're together
1191
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.320
in a room. they do this thing where they get
1192
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.599
like excited, excited, excited, happy. I guess, I guess the point,
1193
00:44:34.619 --> 00:44:38.400
you know, you can feel it like bubbling over. You're thinking, yeah, it's.
1194
00:44:38.340 --> 00:44:39.909
Going to kick off in a minute. Cause it goes,
1195
00:44:40.010 --> 00:44:41.869
do you know what I mean?
1196
00:44:41.889 --> 00:44:44.050
It leans. Yeah. The excitement starts going, you're like, fuck it.
1197
00:44:44.050 --> 00:44:45.769
And you have to go in there. It's like, you
1198
00:44:45.789 --> 00:44:48.880
have to be like a nightclub bouncer before it kicks off.
1199
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:50.440
Do you know what I mean? Just be like, you've
1200
00:44:50.460 --> 00:44:50.760
had enough.
1201
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.840
Cause when it does, I've had it before when it,
1202
00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.300
cause they've had like, not regularly, but like, Especially like
1203
00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:57.599
first thing in the morning, getting ready for school and
1204
00:44:57.619 --> 00:44:59.940
they've had like a full on fight, like kicks. You've
1205
00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:01.579
got to go in there and like drag them off
1206
00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.590
each other. Like it's proper kicking off. And then like
1207
00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:06.769
the weird thing that happens though, a couple of minutes later,
1208
00:45:06.809 --> 00:45:11.389
they're like best mates and I'm traumatized. Because I had
1209
00:45:11.409 --> 00:45:13.670
to break up this fight at like seven o'clock in
1210
00:45:13.690 --> 00:45:14.150
the morning.
1211
00:45:14.170 --> 00:45:18.900
I can never understand how children recover so quickly. I know,
1212
00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:21.820
it's mad, isn't it? Because if me and Rob had
1213
00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:25.320
a blazing row, like, that would be there forever.
1214
00:45:25.340 --> 00:45:28.619
We've never had a row. We've never had one row. Literally,
1215
00:45:29.219 --> 00:45:33.360
don't care either way, do we? He's actually worrying.
1216
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:35.940
Like, is it a lack of ambition or care or
1217
00:45:36.019 --> 00:45:36.699
will that, like.
1218
00:45:37.429 --> 00:45:38.440
I've never argued.
1219
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.119
It's like, all right then.
1220
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:41.679
Resigned.
1221
00:45:41.980 --> 00:45:45.059
If we had like, if we fronted up to each other,
1222
00:45:45.139 --> 00:45:48.099
that would never, we wouldn't go, oh, that was a
1223
00:45:48.099 --> 00:45:50.480
bit of fun. And then immediately straight on. What if
1224
00:45:50.539 --> 00:45:52.179
I cried in front of Rob?
1225
00:45:52.380 --> 00:45:52.639
Yeah.
1226
00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:54.849
Then that would be huge. But if you cry as
1227
00:45:54.949 --> 00:45:57.989
a kid in front of another kid, straight away the
1228
00:45:58.050 --> 00:45:59.809
moment you're fine, everyone forgets about it. Yeah, just playing
1229
00:45:59.829 --> 00:46:00.309
Roblox together.
1230
00:46:00.329 --> 00:46:00.809
That's all right.
1231
00:46:00.849 --> 00:46:01.449
Just whatever, man.
1232
00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:02.070
Touch gloves. It's fine.
1233
00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:02.210
Yeah.
1234
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.719
So how long are you going away on holiday for, Jack?
1235
00:46:06.780 --> 00:46:08.820
When you go on holiday, is it just you with
1236
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:10.780
the two kids or is anyone else going, any family
1237
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:11.639
or friends?
1238
00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:13.949
Just me and the two kids, yeah. I've never done
1239
00:46:13.969 --> 00:46:14.840
it before, actually.
1240
00:46:15.139 --> 00:46:17.110
Never done it before, so I'd be like you.
1241
00:46:17.469 --> 00:46:20.429
Because then you'd be like, I don't know about you,
1242
00:46:20.469 --> 00:46:22.309
but when you're on holiday with them, do they go
1243
00:46:22.329 --> 00:46:24.289
off and make holiday friends or do they play together
1244
00:46:24.349 --> 00:46:25.590
or do they go to the kids' club?
1245
00:46:25.829 --> 00:46:28.429
I suppose it's the first time to find out.
1246
00:46:28.630 --> 00:46:30.829
No, well, I take them. I ain't been abroad with
1247
00:46:30.909 --> 00:46:32.889
them before, but me and my mum still take them
1248
00:46:32.909 --> 00:46:36.190
down the caravan. And they love that. That's just like, yeah.
1249
00:46:36.730 --> 00:46:39.929
That's like 1970s feral kids decay. That's a bit on
1250
00:46:39.969 --> 00:46:43.340
brand for you, isn't it? Even for you, that's a
1251
00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:44.260
bit on brand.
1252
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:44.880
Yeah.
1253
00:46:44.980 --> 00:46:45.780
Even I roll in the ice.
1254
00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:48.940
Come on, mate. We get it. My PR told me
1255
00:46:48.980 --> 00:46:53.800
to say that. You've not said apple and pears yet.
1256
00:46:53.820 --> 00:46:57.260
Maybe we'll squeeze that in as well, Oren. Talk to
1257
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:59.659
me about taking him down the caravan, though, because I'll
1258
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:01.360
be honest, I've never been taken down the caravan.
1259
00:47:01.389 --> 00:47:03.280
You've never been to a caravan party? It's great fun.
1260
00:47:03.429 --> 00:47:05.349
No, I've been to... I've been in a caravan, but
1261
00:47:05.389 --> 00:47:06.769
what I mean is I've never... I don't think I've
1262
00:47:06.789 --> 00:47:08.670
been on a caravan. We used to go camping, so
1263
00:47:08.710 --> 00:47:09.929
that's kind of... Ah, right.
1264
00:47:09.949 --> 00:47:12.530
Yeah. Because we're going to a caravan, not to get
1265
00:47:12.570 --> 00:47:14.010
on brand with you, Jack, but we're taking the girls
1266
00:47:14.090 --> 00:47:15.849
to a static caravan park in the summer.
1267
00:47:15.889 --> 00:47:16.739
Oh, here we fucking go.
1268
00:47:16.989 --> 00:47:19.469
But it sounds like, so there's two ways.
1269
00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:24.750
We're going on a caravan holiday, which is what we're doing,
1270
00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:27.349
but the way Jack went going down the caravan implies
1271
00:47:27.409 --> 00:47:31.010
it's a family-owned caravan, either your mum's or someone's, and
1272
00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:33.670
there's other family members and friends have got caravans down there.
1273
00:47:33.969 --> 00:47:34.489
Is that right?
1274
00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:37.829
I think that's why I... use that terminology so yeah
1275
00:47:37.949 --> 00:47:40.130
yeah my auntie and my nan they used to have
1276
00:47:40.150 --> 00:47:43.449
caravan down sheppy.
1277
00:47:42.449 --> 00:47:47.380
Down the caravan means it's caravans you own but to
1278
00:47:47.460 --> 00:47:49.579
a caravan park is all the day but.
1279
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.119
The thing is though like this is the thing because
1280
00:47:51.139 --> 00:47:52.780
you can spend loads of money taking them wherever you
1281
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.519
want like but the thing is they they do enjoy
1282
00:47:55.539 --> 00:47:56.199
it just as much.
1283
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.719
They love it bikes just go they go feral like
1284
00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:02.260
70s kids for the weekend we went every year I.
1285
00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:04.780
Didn't go on holiday abroad as a kid, not to
1286
00:48:05.019 --> 00:48:06.139
steal your shtick, Jack.
1287
00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:09.880
Let's all get our tiny violins out.
1288
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.480
No, but we'd go camping in South Wales every year.
1289
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.039
And I don't believe that if we'd flown to anywhere,
1290
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.320
I'd have enjoyed it more. Not as a kid. It
1291
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:23.449
was the best thing I ever did. And it was
1292
00:48:23.489 --> 00:48:26.690
the highlight of my year. And as a kid, you
1293
00:48:26.789 --> 00:48:29.599
aren't thinking, fucking hell, I wish they had a, an
1294
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.699
excellent kids club and I wish they had six different
1295
00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:36.989
restaurants or a warm pool without yeah.
1296
00:48:37.530 --> 00:48:39.090
And you can you can do the best of both
1297
00:48:39.130 --> 00:48:40.360
worlds where you if you want to get involved and
1298
00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:41.820
there's like things that you can go through like the
1299
00:48:41.860 --> 00:48:44.280
five-a-side pitch or there's little things you know the swimming
1300
00:48:44.300 --> 00:48:45.940
pool But then in the evenings, if you just want
1301
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.719
to chill out and do whatever you.
1302
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:49.960
Want, arcade, they just keep coming back. You give them
1303
00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:51.639
a quid, they go run off, get a change.
1304
00:48:51.739 --> 00:48:53.659
I love the arcade so much.
1305
00:48:53.739 --> 00:48:56.929
The perfect caravan holiday is there's a clubhouse, right? That's
1306
00:48:56.949 --> 00:48:59.269
got an outside eating area and drinking area. We can
1307
00:48:59.309 --> 00:49:01.869
sit there. And then in front of that area needs
1308
00:49:01.909 --> 00:49:05.230
to be your caravan in view, the play area in
1309
00:49:05.269 --> 00:49:06.349
view and.
1310
00:49:05.949 --> 00:49:06.949
The bit of grass in view.
1311
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:10.639
And that way you've got a trifecta of you don't
1312
00:49:10.659 --> 00:49:12.739
have to move for a week. But you can sit
1313
00:49:12.780 --> 00:49:14.409
there and have a drink and they go, can I
1314
00:49:14.429 --> 00:49:16.269
go and get that from the caravan? Yes, you can,
1315
00:49:16.289 --> 00:49:17.630
because I can see you go in and out.
1316
00:49:18.050 --> 00:49:19.530
Can I go over there? Yep, yep, yep. And then
1317
00:49:19.570 --> 00:49:19.869
it's done.
1318
00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:21.610
It's exactly what I had Cornwall last year.
1319
00:49:21.789 --> 00:49:22.610
Posh. I was there.
1320
00:49:22.630 --> 00:49:28.349
The baseball field. I could see the caravan. I could
1321
00:49:28.369 --> 00:49:32.750
see the bar. I could see the playground. And so
1322
00:49:32.769 --> 00:49:34.690
where are you going on? Are you going on another
1323
00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:35.289
caravan one?
1324
00:49:35.849 --> 00:49:36.150
No, no.
1325
00:49:36.219 --> 00:49:37.050
I'm going to Spain.
1326
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.010
Even when I booked it though, I booked the one,
1327
00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:40.880
I just looked at the pictures and I picked the
1328
00:49:40.900 --> 00:49:42.650
one where the swimming pool's got all the slides in it.
1329
00:49:44.059 --> 00:49:46.929
The one that looks the most... fun i'll just.
1330
00:49:46.699 --> 00:49:48.869
Yeah oh brilliant they have a great time yeah it's
1331
00:49:48.889 --> 00:49:49.730
gonna be well they must be.
1332
00:49:49.670 --> 00:49:51.530
Buzzing yeah they're proper looking forward to it i can't
1333
00:49:51.570 --> 00:49:53.250
wait as well how are you feeling about the flight
1334
00:49:53.809 --> 00:49:56.250
oh mate i'll be fine at their age i'll be
1335
00:49:56.289 --> 00:49:58.230
fine piece of piss no i'll tell you for why
1336
00:49:58.250 --> 00:50:00.849
because so their mum is australian so when they were
1337
00:50:00.869 --> 00:50:03.309
younger we went we've done a few trips to australia
1338
00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:09.000
and i so my boy was about two and uh
1339
00:50:09.260 --> 00:50:10.639
i flew home on my own from.
1340
00:50:10.579 --> 00:50:11.199
Australia with him.
1341
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.920
On my own, right? And that was, what an error, right?
1342
00:50:16.940 --> 00:50:21.610
What I did. He fell asleep as soon as we
1343
00:50:21.630 --> 00:50:23.349
got on the flight. So I thought, oh, bit of
1344
00:50:23.369 --> 00:50:24.849
me time. I'm going to chill out and watch a film.
1345
00:50:30.889 --> 00:50:32.469
And so by the time I was knackered and I
1346
00:50:32.469 --> 00:50:33.989
needed my sleep, he was up.
1347
00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:41.099
I still remember this woman, whoever you are, if you're
1348
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:43.119
out there, she was there with her two kids who
1349
00:50:43.139 --> 00:50:45.619
were about my age, my kids age now, about nine
1350
00:50:45.699 --> 00:50:46.280
and 10.
1351
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:47.940
And she just looked at me and she went, give
1352
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:48.280
him here.
1353
00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:52.239
And her kids just played with him. I just had
1354
00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:54.119
like an hour just to just shut my eyes and
1355
00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:55.460
just get, get, get, get.
1356
00:50:55.539 --> 00:50:59.449
Cause he was like, he, uh, Was he on your
1357
00:50:59.469 --> 00:51:00.789
lap or was he on his own seat?
1358
00:51:00.949 --> 00:51:03.489
He was on my lap on the second flight when
1359
00:51:03.530 --> 00:51:04.159
I found our seat.
1360
00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:05.880
Do you know the flight where it's the four in
1361
00:51:05.900 --> 00:51:06.199
the middle?
1362
00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:06.860
Yeah.
1363
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.340
And I was between someone with like a mask on.
1364
00:51:10.340 --> 00:51:12.719
This was before COVID. Someone who's like paranoid about germs.
1365
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:16.420
Between me and a businessman on his laptop.
1366
00:51:17.869 --> 00:51:21.909
And you were in the middle of a table. Oh,
1367
00:51:21.969 --> 00:51:25.550
my God. Oh, my God. Oh, man.
1368
00:51:25.610 --> 00:51:28.219
My mum picked me up from Gatwick.
1369
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:29.940
It was a breakdown. I had, like, a breakdown.
1370
00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:32.539
I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.
1371
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.079
That was the hardest thing. So, taking two of them
1372
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.400
for two hours to Spain is a piece of piss, mate.
1373
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:39.039
Yeah, they say.
1374
00:51:39.300 --> 00:51:40.989
So, was you having to chase the two-year-old up and
1375
00:51:41.010 --> 00:51:42.409
down the plane and go and hang around by the
1376
00:51:42.469 --> 00:51:43.570
stewards and stewardesses?
1377
00:51:43.610 --> 00:51:44.070
Or did you just.
1378
00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:46.050
That's all he wanted to do. He just wanted to
1379
00:51:46.170 --> 00:51:46.469
be up.
1380
00:51:46.630 --> 00:51:47.429
For 12 hours.
1381
00:51:47.769 --> 00:51:50.789
Yeah, for 12 hours while I haven't slept. I can't
1382
00:51:50.809 --> 00:51:53.929
believe what an idiot. I watched like Tom Hardy film
1383
00:51:53.949 --> 00:51:54.750
where the gin and tonic.
1384
00:51:54.869 --> 00:51:56.190
This is all right.
1385
00:51:58.050 --> 00:52:00.360
This is a piece of business. He was sparking. I
1386
00:52:00.380 --> 00:52:03.579
was like, I've got this nail. He'll probably sleep for
1387
00:52:03.579 --> 00:52:10.840
24 hours. He'll be fine. Jesus Christ. Jack, it's been
1388
00:52:10.860 --> 00:52:14.389
a joy to speak to you. You are genuinely brilliant.
1389
00:52:14.610 --> 00:52:17.449
And I'm so pleased it's all going so well.
1390
00:52:18.369 --> 00:52:21.210
We normally ask a question about the other parent in
1391
00:52:21.230 --> 00:52:23.610
the situation. I don't know if you want to do
1392
00:52:23.659 --> 00:52:27.079
that with your ex. Well, basically, the question is, what's
1393
00:52:27.099 --> 00:52:29.199
the thing that she does as a parent that's amazing?
1394
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.260
And you go, oh, she's so brilliant. I'm so lucky
1395
00:52:31.300 --> 00:52:33.340
to co-parent with her. And then is there anything that
1396
00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:34.760
she does that winds you up a little bit, but
1397
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.570
you don't want to say in case it kicks off?
1398
00:52:36.789 --> 00:52:38.150
I think I'll just answer the first one, I think.
1399
00:52:38.190 --> 00:52:44.320
Good decision.
1400
00:52:44.659 --> 00:52:46.679
Because we're in a good place now, so let's fucking...
1401
00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:51.099
Let's go with the first one then.
1402
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.349
Yeah, no, do you know what I mean?
1403
00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:56.090
She's very chilled out and we can talk things through
1404
00:52:56.150 --> 00:52:58.789
and there's an understanding there. And I think that's, you know,
1405
00:52:58.969 --> 00:53:00.510
and anyway, I say anyone who's out there going through
1406
00:53:00.530 --> 00:53:03.269
a similar thing, If you take your time and work
1407
00:53:03.309 --> 00:53:04.909
hard at it, you'll get there. But just put the
1408
00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:08.059
kids first and just make sure they're happy. It can
1409
00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:09.119
be tough, but you can get there.
1410
00:53:09.340 --> 00:53:09.760
Oh, brilliant.
1411
00:53:09.820 --> 00:53:10.219
That's great.
1412
00:53:10.260 --> 00:53:11.780
Thanks so much, Jack. This is amazing.
1413
00:53:12.019 --> 00:53:13.619
Perfect, Dan. Jack, thank you.
1414
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:14.420
I know, thank you.
1415
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:16.280
Joy to have you on. And I thought you'd been
1416
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:18.179
on anyway, so it doesn't really make any difference to
1417
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:19.949
my life. But it's good to get it done.
1418
00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:21.409
And it's called Skint, you're taught.
1419
00:53:21.530 --> 00:53:21.969
Skint, yeah.
1420
00:53:21.989 --> 00:53:22.869
It's all over the country.
1421
00:53:23.230 --> 00:53:25.050
Sign up to the mailing list.
1422
00:53:25.070 --> 00:53:25.730
Is it sold out?
1423
00:53:26.090 --> 00:53:27.250
Yeah, so sign up to the mailing list.
1424
00:53:27.269 --> 00:53:27.929
It's all sold out.
1425
00:53:28.210 --> 00:53:29.409
Yeah, well, there's a few left.
1426
00:53:29.730 --> 00:53:31.690
And online, you're just Jack Skipper everywhere, yeah?
1427
00:53:32.130 --> 00:53:34.840
Yeah, that's it, yeah. Well, good luck, mate. See you later.
1428
00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:35.260
Cheers, boys.
1429
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:41.130
Cheers. Bye-bye. Cheers, Jack. Jack Skipper. Jack Skipper. Sorry, Rob.
1430
00:53:41.289 --> 00:53:44.210
I interrupted you. That's it, Josh. Let's not have fucking
1431
00:53:44.230 --> 00:53:44.849
fallen out about it.
1432
00:53:44.849 --> 00:53:48.710
I'm sick of you sat there fucking interrupting me with
1433
00:53:48.730 --> 00:53:51.449
your fucking jacket on and glasses.
1434
00:53:51.489 --> 00:53:53.219
I mean, I literally tried to invent something to be annoying.
1435
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:56.079
You specky prick. You specky prick because I've got spectacles
1436
00:53:56.139 --> 00:53:59.519
on myself. He's brilliant, Jack. Genuinely. He's a lovely guy.
1437
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.340
Really really good dad also really funny online and like
1438
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:06.989
you say i thought oh he might be one of
1439
00:54:07.030 --> 00:54:09.550
these guys that's got funny videos but just stand up
1440
00:54:09.630 --> 00:54:11.329
and funny videos never.
1441
00:54:11.449 --> 00:54:13.869
Doesn't always work names.
1442
00:54:13.809 --> 00:54:15.469
Now it makes sense that he's always wanting to be
1443
00:54:15.489 --> 00:54:17.389
a stand-up the pandemic stopped him and he's brilliant he's
1444
00:54:17.429 --> 00:54:19.329
really good he's a bit old because he's like an
1445
00:54:19.369 --> 00:54:22.590
everyman normal geezer type bloke but also he has very
1446
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:24.940
outlandish jokes and ideas a bit.
1447
00:54:24.820 --> 00:54:27.239
Short observations Great observations.
1448
00:54:27.260 --> 00:54:27.920
He's excellent.
1449
00:54:27.940 --> 00:54:29.579
So go and see him when you can. And also,
1450
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:31.500
if you need your carpet done, I'm sure he can
1451
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.179
still do a couple. He can still lay a fucking carpet. Josh,
1452
00:54:35.219 --> 00:54:37.820
I'll see you next week. I'll see you on Tuesday, Rob.
1453
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:38.280
Bye.
1454
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:38.480
Bye.
1455
00:54:38.539 --> 00:54:38.780
Bye.