Why Chalamet Losing the Oscar is the Best Thing for His Career

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You hear that? That's the sound of a man's pulse
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when he's got everything on the line over a piece
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of hollow plastic. Josh Safdie didn't just make
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a sports movie. He made a heist movie where the
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treasure is respect and the weapon is a sandpaper
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paddle. I'm talking about Marty Supreme. Timothee
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Chalamet. Chalamet. I guess that's his name.
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I can't. ever pronounce it all the way but he
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gave us the performance of the decade this is
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parallel frequencies i am just blamed she is
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coco and you are the freaks and we're here on
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tuesday how are you coco timothy i can't ever
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say his name not even close to accurate I'm just
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trying really hard to give a very good French
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accent to this American French actor. No? I can
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never say his name, though, but I believe it's
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Timothee Chalamet. Yeah. Chalamet. Yeah. Did
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you see the Met Gala last night? I missed it.
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Oh. Was there any fantastic fashion choices I
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should know about? You know what? I happen to
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kind of miss it, too. I like to think that I
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was standing in solidarity with Zendaya because
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she decided to skip as well. Her reason was she's
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too busy, which, I mean, I get it. That's what
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we were too busy. Aren't we all, Zendaya? Aren't
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we all, girl? Yeah, but there were quite a few.
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I think we should go through some of the best
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drafts. I'll be Melissa. You be Joan. Is that
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who does this? Is that who does their version
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of the who wore it better? That's who did. You
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know, Joan River, may she rest in peace. Those
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red carpet fashion shows that they used to do.
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I'm sure somebody else has taken up the mantle.
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But I promise when we look at these fashion choices,
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we'll be nicer than they were. Oh, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Let's take a look at this first one
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right here. Oh, look at this. Oh. We got Rihanna
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and her man there, A $AP Rocky. Look at that.
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Fantastic. What can you say about that? This
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is on Vogue's website right here. They're wearing
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Chanel ASAP Rocky's coat. I'm jealous. This is
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like medieval looking, right? That's some nice
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drip right there. Drip. Look at you. Yeah. I
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used to feel so bad when I was a kid because,
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I mean, this was. This was the era of very limited
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fashion options for men. But I used to watch
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red carpet things when I was young and I thought,
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I feel really bad for men because it feels like
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they have, what, two options? Yeah, right. Like
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a black tux or a black tux. And that's really,
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you know, there was like little things like maybe
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something on the lapel or, you know, the pocket
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square. It was just so limited in what they could
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do. And I am loving that the rules are going
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out the window. Out the window. You do. Dripped
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in a jean jacket. I love it. You're not going
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to tell A $AP Rocky. He's always dripped out.
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Like, you're not going to tell him what's in
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and what's out because he's the one making it.
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Look at it. I love it. Love the chains. I love
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the, I think that's an apple or something in
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his hand. It looks like almost like a probably
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Chanel or a Cartier coated apple. That's wild.
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And Rihanna, Queen Rihanna. Look at her. Let's
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go to the next one. Let's see somebody else.
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Okay. That's my favorite so far. Emma Chamberlain.
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Look at that. It says hand painted. Butterfly
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dress. I would have said peacock. Yeah. It does
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look like a painting. It looks like she's wearing
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a piece of art. And that is obviously being an
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artist and an art teacher. I'm very pro. Splashes
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of color. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see something else.
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Oh, my gosh. Wait a minute now. We got art. Yeah.
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Jeremy Pope here. Now, I mean, I like it. I mean,
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I don't mind any of this stuff because because
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the Met Gala, that's what they do. They come
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in and you might see some crazy stuff. Right.
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Yeah. What is it reminding you of? Does it remind
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you of anything? Because I can tell you what
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it reminds me of. Yeah, well, it ain't going
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to be the same thing that you're thinking of.
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I'm thinking of from the old WWF days, Giant
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Gonzalez. He was a wrestler, and he was like
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a humanoid man, and he had it all spray -painted
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on. What are you thinking of? I'm thinking of
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the suit in Arrested Development. And I'm not
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trying to be mean because I'm not this is not
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saying good or bad. But that is the first thought
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that came to my head was was George Michael and
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Tobias trying to wear this Adam suit and be like,
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he's wearing it under his clothes because he
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wants maybe to think he's got muscles. And yeah,
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like totally knows the whole time. She's like,
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that's the suit, right? You're wearing a suit
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from Adam. Yeah. I mean, like I said, not going
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to knock it. And it's made of some sort of beads
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and crystals. Who knows what that's worth? Look
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at this. Now look at this. This is Gwendolyn
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Christie and Giles Deacon. That's the fashion
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there. Giles Deacon. I like how all these are,
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you know, these two, three, four namers for,
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you know, fashion people here. But look at this.
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I love it. I love it. It reminds me of the new
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Wuthering Heights movie. Like a lot of robotic,
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bright red. Big hats. Have you watched it yet?
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It just hit the streaming services. Have you
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seen it yet? I saw it in theaters. Yeah. Oh,
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nice. Yeah. This is what my wife led me to last
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night. Have you seen Beyonce yet? Have you seen
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Beyonce yet? And I was like, once again, no.
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I was watching the NBA playoffs, actually, so
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I was a little more busy. That's okay. We all
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have our thing. But look at Beyonce dripped out
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in this. Nice. I'm going to go ahead and start
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the controversy because you can see that it looks
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like a skeleton. I don't think it looks like.
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I think it is. I think she's got a human skeleton
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dripped in diamonds or something. X -rays of
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her actual skeleton. Oh, my God. Created it jewel
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by jewel. Right. That's more likely attention
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to detail. I think maybe that's more likely and
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probably a better if we're going to start any
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kind of, you know, rumors. That's probably way
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better than the one I said, that she's wearing
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a human skeleton dripped in diamonds. I like
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it. It could be a human skeleton, but it's her
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own. And like you said, they scanned her. I love
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that. Yeah, and meticulously placed jewels in
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each spot. Thank you so much for keeping me on
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the straight and narrow, because we would have
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had people out there thinking, oh my God, Beyonce
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had a human skeleton on her. A real, somebody
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else's, not her own. Well, the way Hollywood
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is, that would have just made her more popular.
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They would have just been like, she's an actual
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skeleton. And then rumors and the legacy and
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it spreads. And then, you know, 100 years from
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now, it'll be told in dark caves, you know, when
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we're all living back in the Stone Age. My favorite,
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though, from the Met Gala right here. Katy Perry
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herself. Are you seeing this? I'm not sure if
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she was going for... one of the ladies from Dune,
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you know, the ones that do the sign language
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down there like this. They got the whole show
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about them too, Dune Prophecy. Yeah. Or if she's
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doing a mix of that and astronaut, because she's
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got the head thing on, because, you know, she
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went to space. She's an astronaut. Yeah, I can
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see astronaut helmet in that inspiration. Yeah,
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but look at this. This thing, she walked around.
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People didn't know who it was at first, apparently.
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The rest of her showings. Love the mystery. And
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then she opened it up, and it's Katy Perry. It's
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a mix of, yeah, a nun, too, it looks like. So
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I think that's incredible. Yeah, I like the drama.
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I love the drama. She's either that laugh at
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it or you don't know what's going to happen there.
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Do you laugh? Do you try to find some good? I
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did like it, though. I think it is. Is it the
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Kwisak Hadrich or whatever it is? Is that the
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name of the ladies? Or is that the name of something
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in Dune? I don't remember. I just know, like,
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they kind of play the priestesses, the kind of,
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you know, yeah, kind of. Yeah. She had to have
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had some inspiration there. I just don't see
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how she couldn't. I don't know. You know what's
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amazing to me about watching them do the Met
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Gala, especially when you watch, like, the Kardashians,
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they're always showing themselves getting ready
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for the Met Gala. Oh, yeah. Behind the scenes
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of all of that. It always, it's amazing to me,
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just the absolute trust. They just like lay to
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the hands of the feet of the designers and they
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just say, I am your muse. I am your mannequin,
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basically. Just whatever you design for me, I
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wear. And I think I'm like pretty particular
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just in times when I've been to formal events
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where I'm like, I won't wear mermaid. I won't
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wear, you know, there's like certain things where
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I'm like, I don't like the way this looks on
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me and I don't like the way that feels when I'm
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wearing it. I'd be uncomfortable. And to just
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be like, I just trust the designer entirely to
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have me seen in public however they choose. Now,
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you and my wife are going to a space prom this
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weekend or something, aren't you? Yes. What is
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it called? Cosmic Disco, I think, is the theme.
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21 years and up. Dress up. Yeah. It'll be interesting.
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I don't know where is going to be anything Met
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Gala even worthy, but I already know I'm going
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to be getting a call. I'm going to have to decipher
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what you guys are saying. And I'm going to have
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to come pick you up wherever you guys are. We
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need to ride home. We in ballpark shop. You have
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bottles clanking together. If the evening goes
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well, we won't be picked up at the location we
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were dropped off. Exactly. We'll be miles from
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there. Having walked there ourselves, we'll be
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like hanging off of lampposts, swinging. Shoes
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in hand. Yep, shoes in hand. We're like, hey.
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You know, that makes me out to be way more wild
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and adventurous than I actually am. Hey. so beyond
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my personality that i'd be like more likely we
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get we'd be calling one of you or my husband
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and going we're tired now it's past our bedtime
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we want to go home and go to bed yeah i like
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the picture is you guys are going to be sleeping
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in the tunnels underneath the you know the bike
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trails over there By that park. That's what I'd
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like to think. I've seen people over there before.
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But let's get into Trophy Tuesday, Top Tier Tuesday.
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A movie that should have won an award would have
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won awards. But it was a jam -packed awards season.
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One battle after another beat it out for Best
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Movie of the Year. Timothee Chalamet didn't win
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Best Actor for this. And this is probably one
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of his best performances. He's only 30 years
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old. Yeah. He's going to get another Best Actor
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Oscar. For sure. So let's not worry too much
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about that. This was just a warm -up for him,
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I think. I think that as good as his performance
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was, him not getting the award this time is not
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even really that big of a disappointment or surprise
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because it's like, all right, no big deal. Not
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your time. Wasn't your season. But definitely,
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like, let's keep an eye on this guy. in what
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projects he's going to be working on the next
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few years because there will be other opportunities
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for that. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And like Dune
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3, I could see him getting something in that.
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I'm so hyped for that. I've been watching a lot
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of Dune. That's why I was talking about Katy
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Perry earlier having some inspiration in her
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Met Gala. And Michael B. Jordan is who beat him
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out for Sinners. And if it hadn't have been for
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him. Like I said, if it hadn't been for a jam
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-packed awards season, any other year, Timothy
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walks away with this award, adds it to his trophy
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case for however many he's going to win. Him
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not winning, like you said, I think it's going
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to add fuel to him. I think it'll add a little
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more fuel, give him a little more attitude like
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we see in how he played the character in Marty
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Supreme. I loved it. I thought he was like...
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chefs kiss or whatever they do i think that that's
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what it was yeah what did you think when you
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were watching this movie like right in the beginning
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like just off the top yeah right first thought
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as i'm like reflecting and this is after the
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movie was over so it's kind of like okay i've
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seen the entire movie now looking back on it
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reminds me of in in the best ways of uncut gems
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do you remember uh adam sandler one of adam sandler's
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best performances of his lifetime just incredible
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but Kind of a similar feel. I mean, it's sort
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of that New York City, different times, different
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generations, obviously. But there was a little
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bit of the Jewish culture or Jewish immigrant
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culture that was going on, you know, just kind
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of family and how they interact with each other,
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like uncle this and so and so, the connections
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between their families. But the absolute like
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chaos. Yeah. Trying to get ahead constantly,
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just like the running around town. I mean, I
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had the same feeling in both movies where I thought
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the main character, Marty in this movie and the
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character that Adam Sandler played in that movie,
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both have the sort of ambition and tenacity and
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sheer will to achieve a goal. I mean, both being
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kind of a financial goal, like they're trying
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to get ahead with this, you know, trying to get
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their money back and they owe this person and
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they, they screwed over that person. So they
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got to like, go make, make that right. I mean,
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just the, the constant, like, oh, the chaos and
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stress of it. But I mean, they both had such
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fortitude to see it through. Yeah. I know. I
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mean, I'm a different background, different culture,
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different everything. And so for me, I would
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have been like, God, I would have given up hours
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ago on this adventure. The first thing something
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went wrong, I'd be like, how do I back out? How
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do I just get out of it? How do I just please
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the person I screwed over so that that gets wrapped
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up in a tidy bow and then I can just wash my
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hands of it and get out of it? Right. I think
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you're really on to something, though, because
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the sandpaper aesthetic, that's what I kind of
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call it. It defines the vibe and it really shows
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what Marty had to go through and why he is the
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way he is. You're getting to see a 1950s New
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York, not that postcard shit. And I say that
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because it's gritty, dirty. It's the version
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that smells like stale cigarettes and, you know,
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cheap liquor out there. Safty. director here
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shoots this with signature anxiety like the camera's
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always close up on chalamet's face you can see
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the beads of sweat when he realizes he's down
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by two points you know it's uh he he does a great
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job of capturing like americana really it was
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yeah like i said grit the gambling dens the eccentric
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characters that live in the margins of polite
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society Did you see how the design changed when
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Marty entered the room or how it got quiet or
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all you hear is the bounce of the table or, you
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know, the pure obsessions captured on the film?
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Those were related in real life, too, because
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Timothee Chalamet, he had been training in table
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tennis since 2018. Yeah, yeah. He took a table
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with him. He had a table with him when he made
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Wonka. Dune Part 2, the French dispatched a complete
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unknown. He always traveled with a table. It's
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dedication already, you know? So, yeah. Like
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you said, the hustle. The hustle. Yeah, the hustle,
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man. I mean, the dedication that actors have,
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the same way that this character had for achieving
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his goal. Yeah. And it wasn't just, I mean, you
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got the sense that it was, yeah, table tennis
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obviously had to be somewhat important to this
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character, Marty. But it's also you get this
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sense that it's whatever is a ticket out of here,
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whatever's going to get me out of the patterns
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of, you know, maybe poverty or just living life
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the way that they'd been living. Whatever's going
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to get me out of it is table tennis being that.
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For this. yeah life is like this this is my ticket
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out so i'm gonna do absolutely anything that
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i have to do anything that i have to do to make
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that happen i want to become rich become significant
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and get myself out of a you know kind of a crummy
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situation and like in the mud kind of a life
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yeah and think he's the best all the way through
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like yeah oh there's a growing like an innate
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like I don't question it. I know. I have worked.
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I have had the privilege of working with lots
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of professional athletes over the years. And
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there is something about them that they will.
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It's not an ego thing. It's not an ego thing
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for them to go out there and say they're the
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best. They're the best. They have to believe
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that. Yeah. And if you don't believe that, you
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will never be that. You will never be a pro athlete.
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You will never be the best if you don't believe
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you are. And they all had that in them somewhere,
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that drive, that you're not going to tell me
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anything. First of all, you're not going to tell
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me that you think that guy's going to beat me
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because I know right now that I'll beat the sand
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off of him in a game of table tennis. That's
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how Marty Supreme came across. He was a hustler
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all the way from the beginning of the movie,
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like even the opening match on the Lower East
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Side basement. He shows up looking like a prince
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in a thrift store suit, you know? But the way
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he handles the paddle, it's like you're watching
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magic. You're like card magic. It's not a sport.
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He's spinning the ball so hard it looks like
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it's defying physics. That's a magic trick to
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some people in that basement. It's not hard to
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see real quick that... He's not just saying he
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is the best. Well, shit, maybe he is. The confidence
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is great and all, but when he backs it up, it's
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like, all right, now he's not just a rebel, but
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he's a rebel with a very specific cause. And
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being the best in the world is just something
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he thinks is a toy at that point. He doesn't
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even care. With people at the same time, right?
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Because it's not just like winning and talent
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and skill at the thing that he's good at, but
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the social skills too and the wheeling and dealing
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behind the scenes that you could say he's either
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really good at it or he's really bad at it. I
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mean, you can kind of make an argument for both
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a little bit here because he makes a lot of mistakes
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along the way. He's got a lot of like... you
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know, Hey, I'm going for it. Like if I got to
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walk right up to the guy who's in charge of where
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the athletes stay, for example, in the movie,
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one of the examples is just like going up there
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and he's like, I can't stay in this rat infested
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place. You've got all of us staying in. I want
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to see you in the nice place, but he's got more
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than. Just staying in a nicer hotel is an agenda.
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He wants to rub elbows with some guys who have
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money and with the press. And I mean, he's always
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got like three steps ahead. He's like, I'm going
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to order room service because it's going to be
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billed to somebody else, not me. Like just stuff
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I would never. I mean, to my detriment or to
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my credit, you could make an argument for either
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one. But I'm the type of person that would be
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like, oh. oh, I don't want anyone mad at me.
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I'll just, sure, I'll stay in this crummy little
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hotel you put me up in. I'm so grateful for it.
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Thank you so much. Yeah. It takes a lot. It takes
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a lot for somebody to walk up there and tell
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a guy, hey, I'm better than this. Yeah. You may
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not think it, but I know that. And put me up
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better. We see a little bit of a switch, though,
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at that world championship in London. You know,
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it's the first time we see Marty out of his element.
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He's facing that sponge paddle or whatever it
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is. You know, the technology's changing, and
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he's refusing to adapt. He's a purist in a world
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moving toward efficiency, which is, once again,
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reflective of a lot of real -life situations.
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For sure. I feel that. But the scene in the locker
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room where he's hyperventilating because he can't
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hear the ball anymore. It's a heavy moment. It's
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that. Fear we all have of the world outgrowing
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our frequency. It's hard for him to be the best
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in the world when it's something now that he
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doesn't understand. And it's evolved almost past
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him. This kind of happens to the games of today.
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Like, this is real life. We see this happen.
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We see the game pass players by all the time.
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Unless you're LeBron James and you're still out
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there doing the damn thing every time. game tonight
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he's playing tonight like let's go 41 years old
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i'm gonna be in bed tonight right when he's watching
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him you know but yeah you know yeah well you
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don't have to be an athlete to know that that
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feeling of like i've either got to figure out
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how to keep up and adapt or i've got to figure
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out how to wait make my old ways work in the
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new world like so So in there, do you stay authentic
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or do you stay relevant? Which one? Which one
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is better? Well, that actually is a great question.
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I would draw everyone's attention to Madonna
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as an example. Yes. Has Madonna stayed authentic
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in her music, but has she done really well at
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adapting? you know making music for every generation
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um up until recently i mean we don't hear much
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about her anymore but the truth is she did an
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excellent job for a span of time in her career
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to being like the music is adapting the audience
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is adapting she's not gonna be able to make 80s
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music 80s pop music the same way in the 90s and
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the early 2000s she did a great job of like being
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herself being madonna fully but also adapting
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to what was i mean i know you don't know this
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but madonna popped up in april 2026 on coachella's
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stage with sabrina carpenter so she is still
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out there absolutely in the gaps of whatever
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decades between she's 67 years old i think or
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something crazy insane came out there performed
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so yeah you're not wrong You're not wrong. But
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Marty chose authenticity, even when it cost him
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a championship. You know, and says a lot like
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he's stubborn. He was he was stuck in that way.
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Also, he didn't have a chance because once he
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got in that match, he realized he's like, I'm
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done. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is not going to
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go well. And we get later on, we get to the relationship
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with his mother. You know, the quiet scenes in
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the apartment amidst the chaos in his career
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at the time. It kind of grounds the movie. It
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brings this thing back down. There's a whole
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other thing going on. I mean, there's the athletic,
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the tennis table career that he's trying to make
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happen and what's going on there. But that's
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like almost, I would say maybe a third of the
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movie. Two thirds of the movie is this. whole
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other story going on this whole other background
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which connects to uh you know his family and
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community right so this is a very like tight
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-knit jewish community in the in the place that
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he and that's what i was referring to with uncut
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gems is you that background you see of like we're
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all celebrating the jewish holidays together
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there's this really tight -knit sort of um feeling
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about it where it's like we all take care of
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our own we've all known each other since we were
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babies he talks about being raised with Rachel's
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character who he's also having an affair with
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but like they were like raised together their
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families not all know each other his friend who's
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going into the ping pong ball he's works for
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him as a shoe salesman you know they all know
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his father and they're all like together and
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they all take responsibility for his mother Right.
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They're all like. Asking him to give up this
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dream, give up this. Yeah. Dream. That's just
00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:07.299
kind of crazy. And be like, you got to settle
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down and make some money. Cause you got to take
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care of your mom. We've all been doing it. We've
00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:13.099
all been taking care of your mom. And it's time
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for you to step in and take care of your mom.
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So you just feel kind of that whole. That whole
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dynamic, that whole, like the pressure he's under.
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All of that. And by the way, Fran Drescher. Was
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she not amazing as his mother? What a different
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character for her. I just loved seeing her. Absolutely.
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It took me a minute to even realize it was her.
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And we can't forget Gwyneth Paltrow crushing
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it in here as Kay Stone. I know we got some issues,
00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:41.420
though. I do have some issues about that. You
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know, Gwyneth looks amazing. She is fantastic.
00:26:48.940 --> 00:26:51.839
But I almost had this like cringe uncomfortableness
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:55.119
with their affair just because I know how young
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Timothee Chalamet is and how old I am. And I
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already came to a decision years ago that I'm
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like, there's a certain limit to who I will look
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at on screen and have like that celebrity crush
00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:13.220
on. Right. Oh, cute. I remember the time like
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Zac Efron's not even that much younger than me.
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But to be like. I draw the line. He's still a
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.920
little too young. Like he's, he's little, you
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:24.119
know, he's in like high school age. I was like
00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.180
in, you know, post -college age. I was like,
00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:27.980
it's too much of a difference. I feel uncomfortable
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crushing on a kid that's that much younger than
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.019
me. So Timothy Chalamet, like that's. He's 30.
00:27:34.339 --> 00:27:39.039
Yeah. He's 30 in real life. And Gwyneth is 57.
00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:44.329
Something like that. So there's a big. 24 she's
00:27:44.329 --> 00:27:46.809
there's a 20 plus year difference in in the two
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so there's there is a little bit of a feeling
00:27:49.450 --> 00:27:54.089
watching it you're like hmm but yeah it kind
00:27:54.089 --> 00:27:56.670
of adds to it though too in the story that she's
00:27:56.670 --> 00:28:00.990
playing the part of this um actress trying to
00:28:00.990 --> 00:28:04.750
kind of recapture the career of her youth And,
00:28:04.750 --> 00:28:06.930
you know, maybe there's a certain part of her
00:28:06.930 --> 00:28:08.569
that thinks, you know, being with this having
00:28:08.569 --> 00:28:10.970
this affair with this young kid is is kind of
00:28:10.970 --> 00:28:14.309
youthful or, you know, something like that. So
00:28:14.309 --> 00:28:16.609
when when you take that and you add it with everything
00:28:16.609 --> 00:28:20.549
else, though, you've got really emotionally intelligent
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filmmaking because you're laughing at his arrogance.
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One minute you're seeing this crazy, wild love
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life. affair the next minute and then you're
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also seeing that lonely kid in a Brooklyn park
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type of vibe you know you got all this going
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on you know so Marty Reisman the real guy that
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this is based on of he lived his life for that
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38 millimeter ball he didn't care if it was cool
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he just cared that it was his you know that's
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it that he wanted this sport was not a hobby
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he wanted this to be it him And that's a lot
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of arrogance and confidence. Yes, there's a lot
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of ego in there, I will say. It's like saying
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you want to be the logo for the NBA. Jerry West
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didn't say he wanted to be the logo for the NBA.
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He was made the logo. But if you're playing in
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the game today and you're like, I want to be
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the logo for the NBA, you're putting a lot out
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there. That's what Marty Supreme and Marty Reisman
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was trying to do. you know so yeah and there
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probably was a lot of that same dynamic of just
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kind of chasing what you're trying to get met
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and i'm going to come at this at a frequency
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of of a healer or a person who understands human
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beings and why they do what they do with compassion
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there's a lot of like needs being met here in
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a in a life of chaos like the way that you see
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him just running around Getting himself into,
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have you ever met people like that where you
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just are like, why are they, why do they live
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their life like this? Like, why is it that some
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people can live their life pretty chaos free
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for the most part? You know, things happen to
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them, but like not at this extreme level. And
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then there's people who it just feels like chaos
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and stress are just following them around everywhere
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they go. And you're like, how did they get themselves
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into these situations? And that's kind of what
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Marty reminds me of. This just like. What is
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he doing? Why is he making these choices that
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lead him to this? But people get their needs
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met in a lot of different ways. There's the,
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you know, the excitement of the chase, feeling
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of wanting to be significant. Like I'm important.
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I'm the best. I'm going to become a world level
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champion tennis table, table tennis player. And
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then there's the endorphins you get from the
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excitement of all this chaos and trying to get
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that money and, I mean, the whole situation with
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the dog. And you're like, what? How did they
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get themselves involved in this? Wild, right?
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And I would have given up on that dog a long
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time ago had it been me. But they were like,
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we're going to get this money for returning this
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dog even if our life is threatened. Insane. But
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looking back on it, you know, there's this moment
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and everybody has it in their life, right? This
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moment of realization where you're like, maybe
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I'm living my life in a way that's costing me
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more than it's getting me. Yeah. And I think
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that moment was when Kevin O 'Leary, played by
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Kevin O 'Leary, Milton, the husband, he's trying
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to get this money. He's trying to go to Tokyo
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and he's like. gonna paddle him like a baby in
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front of all of his friends yeah you see that
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you know that moment on his face where marty
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is like what am i doing how desperate must i
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be to get to tokyo it's insane and i think that
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everything kind of flips there everything like
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kind of starts to go for him it's like i just
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gotta I got to make some different choices in
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my life. I got to make different priorities,
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new patterns. Things have to shift. And I think
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we all can recognize a moment in our lives where
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we were like, I can't live like this. Yeah. Right?
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When is it, freaks? Tell us. Hit us in the comments.
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When have you had that moment? And when have
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you become supreme? When have you just gone from
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broke? You know, like giving something to everything.
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Been as audacious. As Marty Supreme in a lot
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of times. This movie to me was a masterpiece.
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Really was. It's rebellious, loud, but deeply
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human all at the same time. Go check it out.
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HBO Max, I believe, is where it's at, right?
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Is that where we saw Marty Supreme? Yeah. Yeah.
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They're going to like us today. Lots of Dune
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references. That's on HBO Max. So got to get
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a cut. HBO Max has to offer. They'll have to
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give us a little cut today. There's a shot right
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there. of the real marty supreme they did a pretty
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good job with with old timothy chalamet yeah
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i think so i think they they nailed that one
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so good shot yeah yeah but that's gonna do it
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for this edition of parallel frequencies i am
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just playing she is coco you are the freaks and
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we will see you on the other side