Opening Kickoff 8-7-24 MEGA CFB Preview with Bill Bender

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next event. Hello, Welcome to this week's edition of the
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Opening Kickoff Podcast.
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Oh it is.
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Probably and I don't think I'm going out on too
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much of a little limb to say this, but This
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is our favorite, one of our favorites podcasts of the year.
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It is our mega college football review pod.
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We're doing it a little early this week.
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We're off next week, so we're getting it out of
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the way now, and we got a great one in
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store for you. Our friend from Sporting News, Bill Bender,
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is going to join us here in a couple of
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minutes to kind of look at the college football season.
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We dive into a lot of the big stuff. I know,
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we talked a lot last week about the realignment. We
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get into that a little bit more with with Bill,
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and in fact, there are some a couple of quiessesss
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as I bring in. My coach, David Miles is here
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with us. David, how are you, sir?
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I am doing great. I've had a great weekend of
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watching Olympic sports. All of you know that my favorite
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Olympic sport is track, and I got to enjoy it today.
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So I am in a great mood right now, and
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hopefully hopefully none of my or any of our takes
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ruin my mood.
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Peyton grad is here. Peyton was with us last with
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me for the Bill Bender interview, and this is the
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opener that I want to have because he posed that question,
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and we got into it last night a little bit
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with him when we taped it, and you'll hear that
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part of that conversation later on here, but which I
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think is an interesting conversation, which is, realistically, with where
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we're going, the number of teams that are actually going
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to be able to survive with all the nil with
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all the realignment, and be able to sustain themselves. We
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sort of touched on those numbers a little bit, Peyton,
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You and I I think are somewhere in the thirties
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is what we realistically think of the big schools that
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are not going to be able to sustain this.
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I I went with Honestly, I started trying to count it.
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I ended up at like thirty six to thirty seven.
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I got there because I, honestly, I just kind of thought,
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was you look at the teams that are in. We didn't.
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I was just doing it like this. We didn't talk
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about last night. But if you're in the SEC, you're in.
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You're in it like it's like you're in.
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I don't, like, I don't know if I could. I'm
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not go ahead, I'm much finished.
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No, No, we're saying it based on like investing like
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continually not not saying winning it, but like those teams
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are going to constantly every year when they're doing their
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budget and they're doing all this money, they're always like
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even you have to I hate to say, you have
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to think about Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt will destroy their other programs
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to stay in and keep doing this. Like so if
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you're in that, you see you're going to continually do
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it big ten. That's where it gets a little shaky
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because like you got teams that are like like you
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obviously have like you know your Penn State's, Ohio States
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and Michigan's, but you have some Rutgers, you have some
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Indiana's where Indiana's like, you know what, fuck, we could
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just put it all in basketball. Why are we even
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why are we even divvying this up? Why don't we
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do you know what Duke you and c are doing.
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Why don't we just dump it all and focus on
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one thing? If it gets to that. But I mean
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when I was looking at when you look at like
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the top twenty five or like champion odds to win it,
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I mean it's pretty obvious of like how many people
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are really in it to try to win now and
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like with their NIO money. But I mean, yeah, I honestly,
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I got to about thirty five thirty six.
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I think when I look at this, I had to
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look at the teams that are at least competitive, and
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to be honest, the problem with the Big Ten is
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every year, every everybody has an opportunity time to be
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to be the bad team. Except for Michigan, Ohio State,
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and Penn State, every other team has an ongoing rotation
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of the middle of the pack. Can they really survive?
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I mean, yes, you can say Wisconsin, but West Wisconsin
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really done recently. Same with Nebraska. Same Iowa's that middle
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ground team. But I mean and when you run at Rutgers,
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I mean, Rutgers is one of the first teams to
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ever exist. They're not gonna They're never gonna get rid
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of their their team at this point because that's the
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legacy team.
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No, no, you're you're missing I think.
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I don't mean to cut you off, but I think
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what the conversation was was financially, how many teams can.
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Winning like we're doing that.
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The conversation that started that got my wheels turning, and
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obviously got Peyton's wheels turning was over. Financially, can these
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universities with where college football is heading, with all the realignment,
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with now the n i L, can they be able
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to function and stay at this high level, Because I,
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like I said last night, and I still think it's
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you're gonna have your core teams that are always going
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to be at the top.
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But then depending on the alumni, you may.
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Get years where like like Kayton you were talking about,
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like in Indiana, might get some a big boost in
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NIL money, but then that money disappears. So now they're
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gonna drop back and sort of be in that group
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of everybody else, and then you're gonna have another school
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that gets a big boost from their alumni and it
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comes back down. That's the conversation that we're talking about
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is more so financially, who's really gonna be able to
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sustain themselves? Not so much the on the field. The
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on the field is gonna be a product of what
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these universities are able to do financially off the field.
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Okay, yeah, I got it. And so with that case,
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I mean I think thirty is about fair. I mean, yes,
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you have you have the old SEC because football range
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and preme in the South.
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That's what I'm saying. It was just CC's king.
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This isn't an inner mural's brother.
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I still would say the Big Twelve might also have
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a good amount to that also survives the ACC. I
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think half the a SEC survives based off of just
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these schools. I don't think they found all of them.
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For example, I don't see wake Forest truly lasting that
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long in this whole thing, but a hundred percent see
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Clemson going in because Clemson has that kind of backing,
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and even even in South Carolina has the backing far
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to state we all know has the backing Miami, of course.
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So yeah, I think somewhere somewhere around twenty five thirty
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I think would be a fair affair statement. Yeah, I guess,
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I guess I'm with you guys, twenty five to thirty.
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Yeah. I mean the other problem I started to run
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into was thinking about like you like you just made
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like we were talking about Dave of like really, a
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couple of years ago, the Big Twelve would have been
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the conference you would have said they might collapse, right
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like whatever. But then now you're looking at it. You know,
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Texas got a lot of money, heya, those look the
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funniest on was we were talking about it. You know,
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obviously I'm the Big twelve, but just like using A
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and M as an example, when they rolled out that
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they got one hundred million dollars in endowment of like
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fundraising and then they fired it was literally to pay
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Jimbo Fisher's settlement. It's insane. They literally like, we got
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a hundred million dollars. Now we can fucking get rid
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of them, and we're good. But like, that's that's that
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oil and gas money down there, That's what they got there.
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So it's like, I think that's the other part we
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didn't really get into last signs, Like what are the
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other guys who aren't famous, you know, what are they
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doing for jobs and things like that? Texas, all that
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oil money goes a fucking way and those ranches they
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got some they got money to spend in football, is right,
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you know, right up there with the top thing they
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want to spend all their money on. So I don't
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know the wake forest And that's a good one of
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like somebody that's like they've been pretty. They've been pretty
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I guess above their average means, I guess the last
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couple of years. But like they would fall out eventually,
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Like Chris Paul ain't giving them nothing. I mean, I
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mean they what are they what are they gonna get
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all this money? They're just gonna eventually fall out. And
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I mean you're not getting nil money for like UNC
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and Duke to go to football. I mean, you'll get
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some of it, but at the end of the day,
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it's like, we got to take care of, you know,
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basketball guys first and then we'll see what we got.
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I think UNC football is on a upturn. I'm not
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gonna say oh for sure, for sure, but yeah, no
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them touching basketball money, not even close. But I mean, honestly,
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my main question would be those Midwest to West teams.
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Like we all know Oregon has Nike backing them, but
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what about Oregon State or even even what about San
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was it San Diego State? Or what about Honestly, BYU,
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I mean.
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Well Mormons, Mormons got on God.
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That's all. That's breaming.
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That's breaming, that's that's unquantifiable money. But they ain't worried.
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They're using that money to go on the mission trip.
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Before they are spotting the ball.
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But here goes so like okay, like a what like
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Washington because you think about I mean, yeah, start start
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where you're going there. I mean, those are the type
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of schools that you're gonna look at and will be
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the interesting case studies in three to five years if
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they start to fall off, even though they're now in
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the Big Ten where again, they chased the bigger pot
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at the end of the day, that's why they all
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went to They this has all happened because everybody's chasing
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that rainbow pot of golden money.
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At the end of it.
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What happens to them if now they can't match the
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nil money of the other schools in the Big ten
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like Oregon Set. As long as Phil Knight and and
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his family estates still provide for their set like these
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other schools, like we've talked about that, it will be
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interesting to see can you sustain it? Because we're getting
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further and further away from the NCAA being a part
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of this. That's where we're this is all heading. And
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from Matt Murchelle last week too. I think even Bill
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Bender agreed with us last night when we talked about
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it with him that you'll hear in a little bit
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is that's where this is heading.
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And the sad part is it's.
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Gonna rip college football away from what makes college football
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so great and make it NFL light. But at the
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same time, because everybody's chasing the bottom line and chasing
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the big pots of money, this is what needs to
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happen if this is going to sustain itself as if not,
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excuse me, you're gonna be in a realm where you
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have ten teams every year competing and everybody else playing
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for the scraps because they can't financially support themselves, like
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the top dogs.
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Kid.
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Yeah, And I think that's where we're heading.
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If they don't break away and say we've got to
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have revenue sharing.
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Revenue sharing, that's where you're That sounds so far away.
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We didn't even talk about it. Just sounds I don't
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even know how you would get to that.
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That.
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I mean today you say, Georgia, all right, guys, we
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gotta play we gotta play fair. Washington ain't got enough though,
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we gotta we gotta split it, and they'd be like,
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funk out of here.
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The best would be it would be, uh, well, you
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of the year. This is our mega college football preview pod,
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and we figure no better than to have one as
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the expert to help us look ahead at the college
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football season. Then our friend from Sporting News, that would
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be Bill Bender, Back on the program. Bill, it's been
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five months since we've had you on.
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How you doing, buddy, Bill, Well, thanks for having me on.
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I don't have my pullover on because I was at
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football practice and it's about ninety degrees, so I'm going
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short sleeves for the time being until cools off up
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here in Ohio a little bit.
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Sorry, we're all stuck in the heat wave of getting
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ready for football season to get underway. So we're about
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a month. We're less than a month away from the
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start of college football, that's at the end of the month.
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What is your excitement level about the new realignment and
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everything going into it. Are you looking forward to the
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new divisions, the new conferences, with all these new matchups here.
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Well, it really.
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Struck me with going to Big ten Media Day and
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seeing UCLA and USC with next to that Big ten
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logo and the Washington W next to the Wisconsin W
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and the Ohio States, Oh, next to the Oregon.
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Oh. It's gonna be fun.
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I'm curious to see how all of this works with
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twelve teams and mega conferences and everything else that comes
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with that. But I would say there is a little
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bit of excitement in me and the kid in me
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because the fourteen playoff had it was like watching the
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movie with the same ending over and over again. Now
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I do that with eighties movies all the time, but
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I need to see a new movie.
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I think, well, let's.
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Bring Peyton girond in here. Peyton, great to see you, buddy.
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I'm so sorry I'm late though. I'm I am a
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subject to Dave Simonel texting me are we ready to go?
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And I didn't get so I was like something might
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have went wrong and I didn't know about it. So
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I was like, that's my fault though. But jumping in here,
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college football seasons here, it's the greatest time of year.
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We're gearing up for everything. I'm sure Dave was already
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asking about the playoff and everything like that. I'm not
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sure if you got a chance to check out the
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top twenty five poll that came out. I want to
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know when you're looking at that list, who was the
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biggest name that jumped out that you thought might be
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a little too low And there were maybe somebody that
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was a little too high just going into the season.
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Well, I don't know about too high, but Oregon at
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three caught my eye because that means there's a lot
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of faith in the Ducks and the faith in what
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Dan Lanning's been able to accomplish in Dylan Gabriel as
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a transfer, what they've added in the portal, they're going
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to be pretty good. So I think that one jumped
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out just a touch and then you know, from there,
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let's see, so too high. I don't know that they're
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too high too low. I mean, can I say a
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Tennessee who I probably have a little bit higher in
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the SEC. I liked how they finished. I think we
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have them at thirteen, so it's not like they're flagrantly low.
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But one of those teams that I might put a
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little bit higher on this list.
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But the top twelve is pretty pretty universal.
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You can with the order order a little bit, but
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I think those top twelve teams are pretty much the same.
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Are you amazed at the love that Oregon is getting
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considering the fact that Oregon is now going into the
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Big ten, leaving the Pac twelve and just automatically assumed
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to be the favorite in this big, mega conference.
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Yeah, I mean not surprised.
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I think Dan Lanning has a little bit of I
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compare him to Dan Campbell quite a bit with the
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Lions and that you know he'll go for it on
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fourth down. There is a younger generation that loves that
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a little bit more than I'm more of an old
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school guy. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I
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think they're brash. They came in. I know, you guys
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saw the giant inflatable duck on the Indianapolis River, So yeah,
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I mean they're coming in ready to go. In October
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twelfth is definitely circled with them playing Ohio State in
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that game. I think that's going to be a tone
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center for the entire conference race. Oregon, out of those newcomers,
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the only one it's going to play Ohio State and Michigan.
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So I think that confidence that they have coming in
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with the Nike brand, the nil, the transfer quarterback Phil Knight.
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They check a lot of boxes.
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They certainly do stinging with a big ten. Obviously, there
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was some big news or at least some reports today
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about you know, you're the other team up north or
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however they want to say it. I'm just curious what
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your thoughts are around, you know, Michigan with all these
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things coming out of the text things like that, and
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they have a documentary coming out which I I have
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no idea what it could be about other than like
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he did it like it seems like they just caught
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him like on the sideline of the I'm so curious
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to see what that what comes out with that. But
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what are your thoughts are, you know, being you're in Ohio,
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correct I am? And I being in that are what
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they're saying.
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Well, they want they want in Columbus. They want Michigan
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to vacate the title. I have my doubts. I never
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say never. You never know. You can't predict what the
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NCAA is going to do. It seems like some Michigan
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fans are as long as they don't vacate the title
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it's fine. I think Jim Harball escaped punishment. You saw
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his quote before with the Chargers. He may face the
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show cause Sharon Moore may face punishment. I don't know
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that they'll get I don't know that they'll vacate things.
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I don't know that there will be a bullband. I
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do know this with the.
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Connor Sallions Netflix Special, I have a feeling there's going
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to I've been using the term unsatisfactory because it's.
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Going to be one sided.
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I don't see him trashing Michigan and I don't see Ohio.
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I just think that's going to make people angry one
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way or the other. And you know, I guess the
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most damning thing for me was you saw him on
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the Central Michigan sideline and it's on paper now that's
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what that's being alleged. We all know it was him.
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You guys have two eyes, correct.
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It was insane like it like the rumor came out
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and then that was like the next week and I'm like,
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that's him. It's like, yeah, it's nuts.
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Right, And I don't know where it'll go from there.
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I think it'll be at least a year, maybe two
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before this is a result, because I would anticipate if
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the penalties are level one and harsh, Michigan will will
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fight back.
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You know, they'll.
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They'll offer a response, and then you've got to go
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through that. I mean, you think about how many years
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I don't have it in front of me. I probably
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should have that Kansas State had a resolution or Kansas
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had a reds With Bill self.
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I want to transition and look at the ACC because
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it feels like we talked last week a little bit
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about the ACC being now the next conference that it
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feels like everybody's gonna pick from. But on the football side,
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they've got Florida State, who it feels like is going
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to be a force this year. When you look at
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the ACC, is it really just a one man at
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one school conference that's gonna be a threat here with
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this twelve team playoff this year?
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May now, I think Miami's got some mojo with cam Ward.
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I think Clemson people are writing off based on how
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Dabbo uses the transfer portal, but they've got some NFL
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talent on the defensive side. I think Florida State's still
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going to be very good. NC State has Grayson McCall.
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He's played a lot of football, so they're gonna have
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a champion that gets in, then maybe a second team
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in position. To your point, I think the larger issue
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is whenever you have a conference that has two schools
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two not just two schools, two of their best schools
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have an active lawsuit against the conference, that's not great.
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Not in this environment, that's totally unstable. Not great is
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probably the understatement of the podcast tonight.
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But you know, you don't.
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You've got to They've got.
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To figure that out before the realignment wheels turn again.
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I think no, I think my thing like cut out
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my AirPod.
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I think they're like dying. I wanted to stick with
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the realignment. We have obviously that SEC is getting two
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new big people Texas Oklahoma. I know a lot of
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people are really high on you know, Texas and maybe
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doing really well the first year.
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What are your thoughts about.
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Them going into this conference and maybe hitting the ground
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running or do you think they will hit you know,
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some tough luck, you know, the first year getting climated
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to what SEC football is like. We've obviously met you know,
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sparringly throughout the years, but it's different now. You see,
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football is very different than the big twelve.
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Yeah, Texas seems in position to compete right away, which
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I wouldn't have guessed more than Oklahoma a couple of
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years ago. You know, I'm they lost some guys in
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the NFL, particularly on the interior defensive line. I mean,
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Murphy was a player obviously, so I think they're gonna
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be fine. But what the SEC does for Texas and
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Oklahoma isn't just this year. It's not just the money,
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it's not just the matchups. It's it's the patch. And
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I think I've said that maybe on this show before,
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but I think they're gonna recruit better. You know, one
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thing Texas has going forward too, is I believe in
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quarterbacks stability, so not just Quinn yours. Then you have Arch,
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then you have freshman behind him. They lost my leak,
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but that's gonna happen in the portal. To be able
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to hold on to Quinn Yours and Arch Manning's pretty
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significant to me because it shows that Sark knows how
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to massage that situation, much like honestly Michigan did for
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two years with McNamara and McCarthy. You knew McNamara was
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gonna go after, but Harball was able to hold onto
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both long enough to make that transition work.
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Let me ask you this question about the Texas quarterback situation.
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Can you see a possibility where at some point this
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year Arch Manning replaces Quinn you Ers as a quarterback.
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No, unless there's an injury. But with the exception of
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the Michigan game, they're going to get him in more. Right,
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I think they're gonna We saw the spring game. He
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played awesome, and he's developed. I know, the Mannings, if
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there's one family where you can get away with it.
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I mean, they're not looking for money.
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I don't think.
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I mean that they are, although they got some from
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the video game. I think they're more the development of
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you know, Eli didn't start till his second year. Peyton
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probably would not have started his freshman year if not
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for some injuries. And you know Archie he didn't start
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as a freshman. Now that granted that was a different
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time period. But so I think with arch they're they're
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happy with the development. They'll continue to go and he'll
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do well. I think whenever he gets his shot to play,
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it's gonna be the biggest story in college football.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean, you what you
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mentioned the spring game. You looked at the spring game
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from when he was a freshman going into the like
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this year, it was vastly different, and it was like
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completely like it looked like the development was all there
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in Sarkesian's like has a played out plan, probably talking
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about it with his uncles a little bit too, like
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what's this look like for my you know, my nephew
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or something like that. I wanted to ask you, there's
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a lot of kind of like buzz around got Jalen
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Milroe when you were the favorites, things like that. There's
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a lot of other people up for the highs in
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this year, and it seems kind of like there isn't
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like one super stud guy that could go get it.
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I was wondering if you have anybody out there you're
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thinking of for me? I have I have a bet
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out there. It's super long shot, but uh, Luther Burden,
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the third I think I was like, he could absolutely
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they continue on their path they did last year with Missouri.
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That guy would be a great long shot, you know,
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bet or just you know pick in general, do you
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have anybody you're thinking on that would be like a
525
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big jump And maybe people don't know his name yet.
526
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Well, I mean, it is a quarterback award, you know,
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in the Big Twelve. I'm kind of in the same
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zip code. I think Jalen Daniels, if he stays healthy,
529
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would have a chance if Kansas were to go to
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the playoffs. That would get so much momentum. I remember
531
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how much momentum they had when they got ranked a
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couple of years ago, and mey T shirts and me
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T shirts to say they were gonna get ranked or
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be ranked.
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Or should be ranked.
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I can't remember.
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But Daniel's healthy is a machine. The stats will be there.
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You've got to have stats, you've got to have a story,
539
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and you've got to be in the college football playoff. Essentially,
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that doesn't it doesn't happen often that. I mean, I
541
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guess Jaden Daniels wasn't Caleb Williams. Yeah, Jaleb was close though,
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So you have to be competitive at the same time.
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So Kansas and Jalen Daniels would be that. If I
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was maybe throwing a buck buck or two on a
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I like that.
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I like that a lot.
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Yeah, And speaking of the Big Twelve, another conference has
548
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had some realignment stuff. We have Utah coming in there,
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but now without Texas and Oklahoma, this sort of feels
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like the most wide open in terms of there isn't
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that top dog. There isn't that name brand university in
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there when you look at the Big twelve, does it?
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Who are you kind of looking at right now to
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say that's the team I'm leaning towards picking right now?
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Is my favorite to win that?
556
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Well, it's so hard. Utah would be the answer.
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But I mean if Peyton says Oklahoma State and if
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you say West Virginia, and then we have a second
559
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round draft where we pick Kansas State and Kansas and
560
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uh you know Arizona. Uh well, I'm fine with that
561
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that you should do. There's a podcast maybe for you
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draft the Big Twelve champ. I think it's going to
563
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be really hard to figure out. So for me, you
564
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tall the only thing that holds me back coming into
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a new conference because it's that unfamiliarity factor with playing
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Kansas State. Another thing with the Big Twelve race is
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they're all playing each other early. It's a frontload of schedule.
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There are a lot of really good games in September.
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Maybe that's by design on some level because they know
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the SEC and the Big ten races are going to
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heat up, but uh, it's definitely something to watch.
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Yeah, being a West Virginia fan, our schedule is terrible.
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I just have to throw that. I said that last week.
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It's like we get three teams in a row that
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are like they had a bye, they have a bye,
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they have a bye, And I'm like, who who is
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our representative? How do we land on this? But sorry
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to cut you off day.
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Well, I just wonder, like how much of that is
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the TV networks because the TV networks have now so
581
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much power right when it comes to college football. I mean,
582
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we can sugarcoat the realignment stuff all we want and
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say that it's for the better conferences. A lot of
584
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it came down to the better TV money is in
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the SEC and the Big ten. And that's why we
586
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moved because we couldn't get the Pack twelve deal. Had
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the PAC twelve been able to land its own TV deal, bill,
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maybe you feel differently.
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I think we still have a PAC twelve.
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But they bungled the TV negotiations so badly that everybody
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was like, well, I'm going to the conferences to have
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money from the TV networks.
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Yeah, the power of the networks is obvious.
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I think the Big twelve's done a good job of
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creating alternative programming that is for not I've been using
596
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this analogy. It's not perfect, but if the SEC and
597
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the Big ten are like Fox NBC, then the Big
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twelve's kind of like CW.
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Everybody watched CW. You watch something on there.
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My wife watched multiple shows on the CW that I
601
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was forced to watch.
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But I think that's what I'm saying. It was alternative
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to the other stuff, right, and for those of us.
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Who now we all have nineteen subscriptions but streaming options.
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But I do think there's something to that where they've
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created an interesting brand with parody. They might not have
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a national championship program, they might have a stadium with
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one hundred thousand people, but I think it's going to
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be fun to watch. I think that's the most impressive
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thing that Brett Yormark has done. Losing Texas and Oklahoma,
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surviving outlasting the PAC twelve and creating a product that,
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at least on surface value is pretty interesting to me.
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I was gonna say, because it felt like if you asked,
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if we asked you two years ago, which conference was
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more likely to not make it.
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We would have all said the Big twelve.
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I would have one hundred percent said it. I probably
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I think I wrote it after Texas and Oklahoma agreed
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to leave. So my PAC twelve would have been maybe
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third at the time, because you know, that was before
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the Big ten swooped in and took the next two
622
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and the ACC was where it was. But yeah, I
623
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think that's such an interesting thing that they've been able
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to accomplish. And you know, if you listen to the
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tone of Big twelve media day, they're.
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Not done yet.
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They they may go after it's been rumored and I
628
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don't eve anything to back it up, but I could
629
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see them at least trying to make a pitch to
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Clemson in Florida state.
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Yeah, I think we talked about that last week, Dave
632
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and we were, I mean we were even honestly suggesting.
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00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.599
Bill is like everyone always kind of floats it out there,
634
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the idea of, like, you know, with all the TV
635
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money and things like that, what's stopping everybody from just
636
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leaving somehow cutting out the NCAA entirely, as you know,
637
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.599
this protector of justice over well, I don't know what
638
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:03.519
your thoughts are on that of them just kind of
639
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creating their own league or super conferences and things like that,
640
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because it's kind of like what we're heading to, right,
641
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I mean, eventually enough people are going to leave and
642
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separate and they're like, there's so much money on the table,
643
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:15.880
we could do our own thing. We don't even need them.
644
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We create our own you know, commissioner, things like that.
645
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I don't know what your thoughts are on it.
646
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No, I mean I read an article about a super
647
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league model in I think it was April or May,
648
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and it got a ton of traffic because that idea
649
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:33.319
is always has tread because we want to see good
650
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.400
matchups and you want to see you know, I know
651
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:41.559
in this part Ohio State has three games that quote
652
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.359
unquote matter in terms of three games that are probably
653
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.960
going to be competitive and the urge to do that,
654
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and with the settlement happening, how many schools are actually
655
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going to be able to play like this? And when
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I say that, pay the athletes have an nil on
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top of it and go out and compete.
658
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Is the list fifty forty? What do you guys think?
659
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You tell me, I mean, it can't be that many.
660
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I mean, you got to think like eventually. Like It's
661
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.000
also you can only do it for so long, right,
662
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But if you also aren't winning, people aren't gonna want
663
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to contribute to It's like, you know, with anything any business, Like,
664
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if I'm not turning a profit or seeing anything out
665
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of this, how many times? How much much am I
666
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going to like really cough up each year?
667
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You know?
668
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.800
The boosters, some of them are just undying littlety right,
669
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I went there. I love this school. But some of
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them are like, look, I can't keep writing this ten
671
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thousand dollars check this twenty thousand dollars check. Some people
672
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are like, I want to see something here, or you know,
673
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it doesn't happen that. I mean, you're probably right with
674
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your estimation, but year over year that number is going
675
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to go down if you just have Georgia, Alabama, Michigan.
676
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When they're going to say the same thing we're saying, now,
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why am I giving you money? Those four guys are
678
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winning every other year?
679
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Well, the tradeoff two will be And we can use
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West Virginia as an example.
681
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They're a program I follow.
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I'm not a West Virginia fan, but being in a
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neighbor neighboring state, you've always appreciated the tradition. I'm old
684
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enough to remember watching Major Harris play in a Fiesta Bowl.
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I'm older, and I'm young enough to appreciate probably more
686
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so Pat White and Steve Slayton and those teams. But
687
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where you're hurting, Okay, so you use West Virginia, Kansas State, Washington.
688
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:20.639
We saw what happened to Washington State and Oregon State.
689
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They won't be the last two to have their feelings
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hurt if we move toward this super league model. And
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to me, that's a loss for college football because it
692
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:30.840
tears at the soul of the sport.
693
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.639
To me, the soul of this I love the NFL.
694
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I love it.
695
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:34.440
We've talked about the.
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NFL in here.
697
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.079
Yeah, but it's not the same because it's not Morgantown
698
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and it's not Pullman, and it's not you know, even Huntington,
699
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.960
West Virginia with Marshall. It's not like it's different and
700
00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:49.039
it should be different. And I think we're moving towards
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more of the same.
702
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.599
Yeah, I was joking, I'm a Westernian famine not for it.
703
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.519
And I was joking my buddy. They all went there,
704
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and I was like, I mean, with what Oregon did,
705
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.000
and they have just unlimited resources. I was like, we
706
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.360
just need Steve Harvey just give his check every single week. Now,
707
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.280
that's the only way they're gonna be able to compete.
708
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So yeah, I very I very feel.
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Well.
710
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And I think to your point, that's kind of why
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Oklahoma State with Teevan Piggins is where they're at, because
712
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you have to have deep pockets.
713
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It's why Organs where they're at with Phil Knight.
714
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.079
Yeah, and you just have.
715
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To wonder if speaking about that, like you're almost gonna
716
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have to look through the famous alumni of each of
717
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:35.760
these schools and just be like, Okay, well can this
718
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.239
school sustain with these people leading the way for them
719
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in terms of the money, And I like, I don't know.
720
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I think there's actually less than forty I really do.
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I think right around like that thirty numbers probably the
722
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.840
teams that are going to consistently be able to stay
723
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.639
at the top. And then you're gonna have ebbs and flows.
724
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.960
You're gonna have years where maybe like a Maryland gets
725
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.360
a big boost from their alumni, but then they disappear
726
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and then we have Kansas State or maybe a Kentucky
727
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.159
gets a big boost from some of their alumni, and
728
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you just sort of like the ebbs and flows of
729
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:12.599
that surprise team comes in for maybe a year or
730
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two and then disappears to play with the thirty main
731
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ones that we have.
732
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Yeah, and that's NFL light that you're describing. It's just
733
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a Saturday version of what we watch on Sunday, which
734
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.360
there is some appeal to some of that, and there's
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serious drawbacks to some of that. I'm also interested in
736
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the experiment of the twelve team playoff in terms of
737
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.480
here's one I've been kind of throwing at people, Well,
738
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are they going to try to push the group of
739
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five team out? Eventually? You know, if you have a
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00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:46.280
round a twelve game where the MAC Champion or the
741
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:50.280
Boise State or whoever, like last year, if Oregon beats
742
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.440
Liberty forty five to six, for the next three years,
743
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.079
they're going to try to push that group of five
744
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.480
team out of the playoff and put a big tener
745
00:37:56.840 --> 00:38:00.320
or put another power conference team in. And I'm porn
746
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:02.639
on that as the Ohio University alum because part of
747
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.440
me is like, if they got into that five twelve game,
748
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.960
I'm going to Knoxville. I'm going to man, I'm going
749
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:13.280
wherever and watching them reality sets in that is it
750
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:17.199
better to have instead of the chamellion bowle a four
751
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.000
to eight team FBS Division two playoff and there's some
752
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:23.239
to me, I'd watch it.
753
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:25.360
We all watch them, yeah, so why not?
754
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:29.199
Yeah, we all joke like, well this is terrible. We
755
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:30.760
we love to tweet it out and then it's like
756
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.760
they comes around. I'm tuned in, I'm watching every second game.
757
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:37.199
I mean it's yeah, it's it's kind of frustrating. I
758
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agree with you, like there's root root for those teams
759
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:42.440
of like the you know, I love the MAC. I
760
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.079
love watching the Mac. The football is the best Tuesday
761
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:48.239
Wednesdays or the best at night when that's on. And
762
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:50.599
some of those teams, like they have really good years
763
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:53.280
and it's kind of like why not them, especially with
764
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.440
this expanding. But you know, I've been joking about it's like,
765
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.440
you know, with people you know, putting out money like texts,
766
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.840
A and M spend one hundreds of million dollars getting nowhere,
767
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.519
they're gonna be upset. Eventually they get there and they
768
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.199
just let in, you know, uh, Toledo or Ohio, if
769
00:39:09.239 --> 00:39:11.480
you will, they'll throw a fit about it. They'll be like,
770
00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:13.360
why why don't we just get in, like because they're
771
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.719
like we're investing more money or something like that. That's
772
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.079
where I feel like it'll get to like something like
773
00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.679
that will be the downfall of all this. And I
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00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.280
love traditional college football all the everything about it, and
775
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.159
it scares me that, like you keep kind of hindering,
776
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:31.159
like the NFL is kind of like moving to Saturday.
777
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:32.239
It sucks.
778
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:32.880
That would suck.
779
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:36.719
And I don't love all of it either, so you know,
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at the same time, excited, like we said about some
781
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.960
of the new parts of the game. Two minute warning,
782
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:45.360
that's gonna be weird. That's another one though, it's gonna
783
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:45.760
be weird.
784
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:49.760
I hate it, I hate I loved, I loved first Down,
785
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.119
Stopping the clock. I last year was weird watching that.
786
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:55.480
I felt like the games just flew by, and I
787
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.719
was like, I'm prepared to waste five hours of my
788
00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.800
day watching this game. That was you know, now you're
789
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.840
speeding up my Saturday. I didn't like that.
790
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Yeah, well, I'm uh, the other way, I think on
791
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the time on the clock because but it's not the problem.
792
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.559
The commercials are the you know, forty minutes of you know,
793
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.039
the kickoff commercial, kickoff commercial you can only watch fans
794
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:24.760
will so many times. So another change to the game
795
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.199
that that we're definitely looking at moving forward.
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So I think.
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00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.480
All in although it's still going to be an exciting season,
798
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we're preparing like we always do it Sporting News. I've
799
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got tons of stuff coming out here over the next month.
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It's still fun for me. The anticipation that you get
801
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:43.760
into the middle of August will be a lot of fun.
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00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:45.840
All right, Bill, we're gonna get you out of here
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00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.079
on this. Give me right now. What your gut National
804
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.559
championship prediction is, Oh, it's gonna.
805
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.039
Be I mean the easy it's not easy to do.
806
00:40:54.719 --> 00:40:58.880
Ohio State Georgia would be the easiest title game. They're
807
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:00.440
going to be ranked number one and too. But I
808
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:03.440
keep telling people this with the hint of caution, that
809
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.679
it's gonna come. Like go back to the fourteen playoff.
810
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.440
We got to the playoff, most people thought Alabama and
811
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Florida State.
812
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.320
Were gonna go to the championship game. I remember I
813
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:17.239
was going to the Rose Boy.
814
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.079
I thought Florida State would beat Oregon, that Alabama would
815
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.559
beat Ohio State. She'd have Jimbo and Saban in the
816
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title game. I think Florida State was on like a
817
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.239
thirty game win streak in Oregon in Ohio State one
818
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.199
that day, first day of the fourteenth playoff.
819
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I'm hoping for some of that, some unpredictability. Like I said,
820
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:38.280
as somebody that's I got the.
821
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Footballs behind me here, there's a lot of there's a
822
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lot of Clemson in Alabama's behind me.
823
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I always do a tradition.
824
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I buy a game a football from the title game
825
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.559
when I go. You want to see a couple of
826
00:41:48.599 --> 00:41:52.159
new movies, like I said at the top, and Georgia
827
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.159
Ohio State's not a new movie. But I think they
828
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.800
have the competitive depth on their roster to be those
829
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:00.679
two teams that can get through the quarks of a
830
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:01.440
twelfteen platff.
831
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.599
I gotta ask one thing I always ask this to
832
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:06.920
end it. How excited are you about Jordan love Is
833
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:09.079
extensions package question?
834
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:11.480
Yeah, we can close on that. Green Bay is going
835
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:15.639
to be just fine this year. I think I where
836
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they were early in the year versus beating Dallas in Dallas,
837
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.239
I mean every Packer fan was going to take that.
838
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:23.480
I was to the point where they lose to the
839
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:26.480
Niners in the divisional round and I couldn't believe in
840
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.840
the fourth quarter there, and I'm like thinking.
841
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:30.440
Okay, you've got this game. Go close it.
842
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:36.679
So I think Green Bay as usual, quarterbacks are a
843
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.639
huge piece of it, but organizations are even bigger. And
844
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.199
you know that their organization has figured out a way
845
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.039
to do it, from Farb to Rodgers to Rogers to
846
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.760
Love and I think they're going to be pretty good.
847
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:49.320
The Steelers will be pretty good too, because it's I
848
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:54.239
think their quarterback plan is going to work. They were proactive,
849
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.119
I like, and that is an organizational thing. And I
850
00:42:57.159 --> 00:42:59.519
they're the cousins the Steelers and the Packers are definitely
851
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:01.599
and they can.
852
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:03.199
Do a super Bowl again. It's been a while for
853
00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:03.679
both of them.
854
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:05.880
Don't bring that up. That was like the worst day,
855
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:08.039
Like it was going to high school the next day
856
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.760
and Maryland was terrible. A bunch of daves bowling me,
857
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.719
a bunch of Ravens fans like laughing at me. Terrible. Well,
858
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.639
good day for you, that was a good day for me.
859
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:17.320
I'm not gonna lie.
860
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.440
But it's been a long time since, so you know, hopefully,
861
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.480
hopefully that works out and a. You know NFL will
862
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.119
be exciting too, But like you said, I like to
863
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:26.559
keep Saturday and Sunday separate.
864
00:43:27.159 --> 00:43:28.360
Yeah understand.
865
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:31.400
Well, Bill, we're not going to keep you separate from
866
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.480
this podcast. We're gonna have you on a lot more
867
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:35.800
times during the football season to break some stuff down.
868
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.519
Take care, get ready, and we'll talk again soon.
869
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:41.079
Hey, no problem, Thanks for having me on.
870
00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:44.239
All right, more of our college football preview up next.
871
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.960
Welcome back to the Opening Kickoff Podcast. I thanks to
872
00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:50.280
our good friend Bill Bender from Sporting News, one of
873
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:54.000
our favorite people to have on this program to talk to.
874
00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.239
Bill kind enough to share his insights as we head
875
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:00.360
into this college football season. So let's get into it.
876
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.559
It's prediction time. It's our favorite part of the pod.
877
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.360
We're gonna go through the big conferences, the ACC, the
878
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:10.039
Big Ten, the Big Twelve, and the SEC. We're gonna
879
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.239
tell you who we think wins that count wins the conference.
880
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:15.559
We're gonna give you who we think the group of
881
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:18.960
five winners that will be represented in the college football playoffs,
882
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:22.679
our National Championship match have been winner, our Heisman Trophy winner,
883
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.320
and we're gonna give you one dark horse team to
884
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:26.639
keep an eye on this year.
885
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.320
So we're gonna start.
886
00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.960
In the ACC and I'm gonna turn it over to
887
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.639
David Miles as he is up first. Who do you
888
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.679
have in the ACC Championship game and winning it?
889
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:43.920
My ACC Championship is Florida State and Clemson. Florida State
890
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.519
taking a dub. But I think this is Dabo Sweeney's
891
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.800
redemption year. I don't see him truly having that bad
892
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.440
of a season, especially the ones. Yeah last year, but
893
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.840
I don't think Florida State has done enough to who
894
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:02.280
has not? I mean, we worked it. I don't think
895
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.079
Farstday has lost enough to really lose that edge. So
896
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.159
give me Florida's State coming out of the ACC.
897
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:15.880
Peyton, I'm gonna go actually close, but I'm gonna go
898
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.280
with I'm gonna go with Clemson, and I'm gonna go
899
00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:22.679
with Miami. I think, I really do think cam Ward
900
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:26.480
is like something that really will change and at least
901
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.119
get set a tone of like competing in that conference
902
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:31.719
at a high level. It's a great transfer for them.
903
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.679
They have weapons. I mean it's obviously Miami. God. I
904
00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:37.800
always forget the guy's name, the guy from Oregon that
905
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.920
went there helped me out Dave. Oh God, oh Mario
906
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.119
coach Cryst of ball. I like, what you know your
907
00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:48.840
this is going to year two. He you know, had
908
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.800
to get a field. You really get a feel for it,
909
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.280
especially after the Georgia Tech loss last year, which is
910
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.679
probably the worst decisioning the coaching decisions I've seen in
911
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:02.320
a fourth quarter in recent memory. I think he's learned
912
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:04.840
a lot. I think that the additions they've had, they
913
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:07.920
got more nil money painted out. I think they'll go,
914
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.119
but I think Clembst will take it. I think they're
915
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:14.400
gonna lose to Georgia early, but honestly, I don't know
916
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:16.920
if they're gonna lose another game down the stretch. So
917
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.719
I would take Clemson acc.
918
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.719
I'm gonna go Florida State in Miami.
919
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.800
I thought you're gonna pick Louisville for Todd If really
920
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.039
were you know like that, I'll tell you.
921
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:35.480
I was gonna say.
922
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:37.679
I like, I looked at it, I thought about it.
923
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.840
I just I still think they're the fourth best team
924
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:42.639
in the a CC and I think that's a that's
925
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:44.360
a hard heal for them to have to come over,
926
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.880
and Florida State is going to be really good.
927
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.639
I think Miami is going to be good. I love
928
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:51.159
the addition to cam Award for them.
929
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.559
I think they needed to get a quarterback in there
930
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.519
that's played some ball, can stay healthy because Tyler Van
931
00:46:57.639 --> 00:46:59.760
Dyke wasn't terrible, but couldn't stay on the field for
932
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.360
Myami last year. And then it was a revolving door.
933
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.920
And I think Miami upsets Florida State in the ACC Championship.
934
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:09.239
I think this, I like Peyton sort of like you
935
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.800
talked about Peyton like I think Mario Cristobal. You sort
936
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.679
of start to look that year two, year three of
937
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.480
a guy in a program, when you start to say, Okay,
938
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:21.840
now he's got his footing, he's got more of the
939
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:26.280
guys that he recruited, he's brought in into this system,
940
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:27.480
into his system.
941
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:29.760
And I think Miami.
942
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.440
I would feel differently if they didn't have cam Ward
943
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:37.920
at quarterback. But getting cam Ward probably the best quarterback
944
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.960
that was out there on the transfer portal in terms
945
00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:44.320
of who was actually available, I think that's a great
946
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:45.400
get from Miami.
947
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:46.239
And I think that's nothing.
948
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.559
I remember that he asked Ohio State for a million dollars?
949
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:53.360
Does anyone remember that? I do remember they were like
950
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:57.199
for what to do what so will be funny if
951
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.960
he like the I would never give anybody a million
952
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:03.960
dollars to play quarterback in college football. But but I
953
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:05.679
will say it would be really funny. If you like
954
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:09.079
wins ACC, then you you'll see that report coming back around.
955
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:10.800
But WHOA, how could they not?
956
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:12.199
You know it's gonna be one of those.
957
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:15.519
It's like, all right, so yeah I got I got
958
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:18.960
Miami over Florida State. No knock on Clemson. I think
959
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.760
Clemson's gonna be really good. It's gonna be a three
960
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.239
team race. In fact, I think depending on how some
961
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:28.440
of the other conferences play out, you could maybe talk
962
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:33.119
yourself into the ACC. Maybe sneaky getting three teams in
963
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:37.119
the college football playoff? Yeah, okay, which is it's not
964
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.599
like sounds crazy because we haven't talked about the Big Ten.
965
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.440
We haven't talked about the SEC yet. But like, I
966
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.800
could see scenarios where that happens. I don't think it'll happen,
967
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:50.840
but I could see it. Let's go to the Big Ten.
968
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.880
Big Ten's got four new members. David Miles was starting
969
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.320
with you, let's hear your Penn State love right here.
970
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:03.320
You're not gonna hear good good, right now. I'm honest
971
00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:06.679
that that team, that team of Columbus Mix. Sure they
972
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.840
don't see it every year, but yeah, give me Ohio
973
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.559
State and give me Oregon. I think that Oregon is
974
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.480
a team in this new conference it is still just
975
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:20.000
gonna fit right in like a glove. And when fitting
976
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:21.400
like a glove, I mean they're gonna play a very
977
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.000
different brand of football that is usual to the Big Ten.
978
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.079
But I do think that that is that gets them
979
00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:28.599
far enough this year to where they can get the
980
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.239
championship game Ohio States, Ohio State. Until I've seen it otherwise,
981
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:33.840
I'm not going to bank on another team in that
982
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.440
in their division. But I do want to say that
983
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.360
they're a team in that division that I will have
984
00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:42.639
is my dark horse. Later that is everybody's trap game.
985
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:47.599
But I think that for the championship game, give me
986
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:48.800
Oregon in Ohio State.
987
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:56.360
Peyton, Yeah, I mean I have to go the same way.
988
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:59.320
I mean, I don't know how how did they they
989
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:01.519
got They got ri the divisions right in the Big Ten.
990
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:06.000
Yes, it's it's it's gonna be. Yeah, there's no divisions.
991
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:08.519
God, I was just making sure that was ship was
992
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:11.639
so stupid, because if they kept that. Uh. I thought
993
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.679
that I just was making sure because like it was ridiculous.
994
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:17.159
I was like, we need a big refucking alignment. But
995
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:20.480
Ohio State, Michigan on opposite side, please, love of God,
996
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.440
Penn State, whatever side you want, doesn't matter, Like ridiculous.
997
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:27.519
Yeah, you just flip, like flip a coin.
998
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:29.719
All right, you're gonna play in the East this year.
999
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.440
It looks like, all right, good for you. Yeah, I
1000
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:38.119
mean Ohio State, Oregon. You know, honestly, I like Oregon
1001
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:40.639
a lot more. But the one thing that's kind of
1002
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.960
worries me is like, what if Dylan Gabriel just fucking buss,
1003
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.800
Like what if he just is exactly what he's been
1004
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:50.880
in the last three years. Like everyone's talking about him
1005
00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.960
like a huge heisman guy. And I get to completely
1006
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:58.119
understand day Lanning's offense. It absolutely makes sense, but it's
1007
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.039
like he was he was okay at UCF, he was
1008
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.960
good at like Oklahoma, but it wasn't like earth shattering,
1009
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.159
like you know what I'm saying, and everyone's talking about
1010
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.559
him being like the Heisman guy. Maybe I mean with
1011
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:14.360
Dan Lanning and all that, Sure, right, I'll buy into that,
1012
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:18.000
but it's like he hasn't really like won a massive
1013
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:21.119
game yet, he hasn't like done anything. It'll be very
1014
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.159
interesting when they play and seeing how he reacts. But
1015
00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:26.719
I'll give Ohio State just out of uh, you know,
1016
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.440
they know this conference works. They I'll consider it home
1017
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.559
field advantage playing in the Midwest until Oregon really gets
1018
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.599
there the grip for it. But I'm gonna go Ohio State.
1019
00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.760
And they spent so much fucking money. I mean, if
1020
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.960
they don't, Ryan Day, please fire, please fire that guy.
1021
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:47.400
He's an asshole. Give me give me a fucking reason.
1022
00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.519
I will say, though, because I thank you all for
1023
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:52.519
reminding me. I forgot that they got rid of the divisions.
1024
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:56.159
Is that you know, those middle of the pack teams now,
1025
00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.079
in my opinion, don't have a reason to ruin someone's season.
1026
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.119
Just off that game on a Thursday night or Friday
1027
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:04.199
night like how. And yes, you can hate me for
1028
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.880
saying how Penn State will go to Iowa and randomly lose,
1029
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:08.800
even though Penn State's number three team in the country
1030
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.039
and I was not ranked. But I think that those
1031
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.639
mid those middle of the West, Midwest teams definitely do
1032
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.400
have a track of doing that. But I think that
1033
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.719
U usc U, c l A, Washington and Oregon at
1034
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.039
a nice little mix to where you shouldn't have these
1035
00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:23.559
situations because you just stay on alert with everybody. And
1036
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:26.880
I really am looking forward to how he's gonna play
1037
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:28.599
out with the old travel on everything. So the sun's
1038
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:34.880
dead in my eyes. So Dave Goan closed my blind.
1039
00:52:33.719 --> 00:52:36.079
Building the hotels. He's just gonna build them a private
1040
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:38.079
hotel at this point wherever they need to go.
1041
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:39.119
That's right.
1042
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.159
I'm going three for three Oregon and Ohio State. But
1043
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:49.679
I've got an Oregon winning You look at Oregon's roster
1044
00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:56.400
top to bottom's it is the offense is almost all
1045
00:52:56.480 --> 00:53:02.400
returners outside of a couple offensive line piece is one receiver,
1046
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:07.159
and of course Dylan Gabriel quarterback replacing Botnicks. I'm not
1047
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:11.840
as high on Dylan Gabriel, but I think in that system,
1048
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:16.159
that offense, with everything coming back, he's gonna hit the
1049
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.960
ground running really fast. I think Oregon's defense, and this
1050
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.159
is the part that I'm curious to see with the
1051
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:23.679
four teams that are going to the Big Ten, and
1052
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:25.840
we'll talk about some of the other schools. Can you
1053
00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:30.480
match the style of the conference. And I think Oregon's
1054
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:34.440
defense is the closest to being able to go right
1055
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:38.760
into the Big Ten defensively and say we can play
1056
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:43.480
Big ten smashmouth football if we have to. And I
1057
00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:47.079
think that's what makes me think Oregon comes in with
1058
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.079
all that speed on offense and the ability to be
1059
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.239
physical on defense, and they're gonna present problems for these
1060
00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:58.440
Big ten schools. And I like, I do think Ohio
1061
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.519
State's going to be better this year. I don't love
1062
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.840
Will Rogers as their quarterback to transfer. I think Will
1063
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.320
Howard Howard Howard, sorry, Will Howard Dustin.
1064
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.280
I've watched what if he plays like how he plays
1065
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:13.159
in college football at twenty five, he might win the
1066
00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:18.440
high Yeah, it's ridiculous. It was a weird pick. I
1067
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:23.320
admit that I know this. Yeah, you know exactly who
1068
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:23.880
that guy is.
1069
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.760
Yeah, he did in a high school. Buy me, actually watched.
1070
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:31.480
Really he went to Kansas State though, I think, right.
1071
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.280
Yeah, that's but that's why he threw me off. I
1072
00:54:33.320 --> 00:54:37.760
thought he graduated. Wow, he's from Tessa Town.
1073
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:41.679
So anyway, give me, give me Oregon to win a
1074
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.920
Big ten. Let's go to the Big twelve. David, who
1075
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:47.039
is your Big twelve championship.
1076
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:53.159
Think twelve, I have Utah in Kansas State. That one,
1077
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:55.679
really I didn't. I don't want pay much attention to
1078
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:58.800
Big twelve just yet, so I'm gonna just pass on
1079
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.360
that one. And he said, those are the teams that
1080
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.639
I felt, based on last year, would do good this year.
1081
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:06.360
Not my proudest moment with that with that conference. But
1082
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:08.800
I like defense. That's why I hate it so much.
1083
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:13.320
It's changed though a lot, which sucks. Like they start,
1084
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.760
I liked it for the opposite reason and then what
1085
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:19.199
it sucks because then I became of age to gamble,
1086
00:55:19.239 --> 00:55:22.360
and then they stopped hitting like overs, and I was like,
1087
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.519
the fuck are we doing? We don't play defense here?
1088
00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.840
So who are your picks?
1089
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:36.559
Ah, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with uh Oklahoma
1090
00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:42.440
State and I'm gonna go with West Virginia. I really am,
1091
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:46.360
I really am I I they went and won nine
1092
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.639
games last year when they were projected to win four.
1093
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:53.280
They have we have I'm gonna say, we we have
1094
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:56.840
thirteen returning starters as a whole. You know, Garrett green
1095
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.800
Ha's been hopeful. He's on that list. He's low on
1096
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:03.000
that list, but he's on that list. I don't know.
1097
00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:06.039
I really like Ollie Gordon's the best running back or
1098
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.000
Judkins at Ohio State are the best running backs in
1099
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:13.280
college football going into this. I mean, I guess the
1100
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.480
only thing to keep him off the field is DUIs.
1101
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.519
But it sounds like they're not gonna take him off
1102
00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.360
if he gets anymore, so he's just gonna keep playing football.
1103
00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:25.320
So I really like them. I like Oklahoma State. They
1104
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:27.760
don't have to worry about Big Brother anymore, you know
1105
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.440
what I mean. They don't have to worry about Oklahoma.
1106
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.440
They don't have to worry about Texas. It's kind of
1107
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.000
like the windows open and the path is cleared. It's
1108
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:34.400
hard to.
1109
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:35.159
Go play there.
1110
00:56:35.199 --> 00:56:38.840
It really is loud. It's a crazy environment. You got
1111
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.239
guns firing off in the corners. The creepiest cowboy you've
1112
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:48.079
ever seen. Mascot is a horrifying picture. But I would say,
1113
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:51.199
like my sleeper, and I wanted to say this, but
1114
00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:55.440
Bill said last night, Kansas dude like Kevin Daniels plays
1115
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:58.320
every game. That guy should win the Heisman. I mean,
1116
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:01.880
he he is a freak. And it would piss me off.
1117
00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:02.760
Me and Dan.
1118
00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:05.519
Dan would talk about when we were just picking games
1119
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:08.280
last year. It's like, dude, we would never you would
1120
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.079
never know. It was the best kept secret in college football.
1121
00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.119
And they can't do that again, Like they they need
1122
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:15.960
to make a decision, like if he's gonna be hurt,
1123
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:18.960
just keep that, Like, don't do this whole flip flop thing.
1124
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.719
It's terrible for your guys offense. But I like Kansas
1125
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:22.679
too as an underdog.
1126
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:27.159
I uh, well, my underdog actually comes out of this
1127
00:57:27.199 --> 00:57:30.480
conference too. I have Utah and Oregons in Oklahoma State
1128
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.239
and Hyeah in the Big Twelve championship. I think Utah
1129
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.599
wins because I think if Cam Rising stays healthy and
1130
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:44.880
get because that's another guy, Like, if he stays healthy,
1131
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:48.920
then Utah like can play anybody.
1132
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:50.440
That's how good they can be.
1133
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.519
How winning him has that team they can match up
1134
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.480
with anybody if it is incredible. And and I'm with
1135
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:00.960
you Oklahoma State, as long as all Gordon doesn't get
1136
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:02.159
drunk and have a d U.
1137
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:03.519
I like, what's that matter?
1138
00:58:03.599 --> 00:58:05.360
He's he's claying football.
1139
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:11.480
He avoid the distractions. No reason why Oklahoma State camp
1140
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.400
though your house that was your fire alarm. I was like,
1141
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.400
that is horrifying.
1142
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:21.360
It was, but that wasn't my House.
1143
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:29.320
Okay, David, but my sleeper is Arizona out of this conference.
1144
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:34.679
On the Wildcats another one of those teams. It sort
1145
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:38.079
of feels well positioned to be going into a new conference,
1146
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:42.599
a lot of returners. The biggest thing that Brendan Brennan,
1147
00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:45.039
the new coach Arizona, was able to do was keep
1148
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:54.039
their talented freshman quarterback from transferring fora he is he's
1149
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.840
gonna get Arizona. They can be a team that's gonna
1150
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:57.639
disrupt some things.
1151
00:58:57.840 --> 00:58:58.880
Let's go to the SEC.
1152
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.360
We're just naming our sleepers now. I'm just gonna my
1153
00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:04.599
sleeper was in the Big Ten. My sleeper is gonna
1154
00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:06.599
be ruckers. I think Rutgers is.
1155
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:10.920
Hey, they got hey, look look they got They got
1156
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:12.440
a lot of returning guys.
1157
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:16.440
Though, between a solid defense that Yes, they're not the greatest,
1158
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:19.000
They're that team. I think dark Horse would be better
1159
00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:22.440
pick than Sleeper to win. But they're they're that team
1160
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.119
that you're not going to you you should, you could,
1161
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:26.280
You're gonna easily overlook.
1162
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.239
So I agree they are a very annoying team to
1163
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:34.320
go play. They like, I love football. He's a psycho,
1164
00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:35.800
the Siano man.
1165
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.920
But yeah, I just want. Since we're naming our sleep wait,
1166
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:45.519
sleeper and dark horses, I figured I shop shop it anyway. SEC.
1167
00:59:45.679 --> 00:59:48.760
Dave SEC, David drup first SEC.
1168
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:51.280
Where the money is, where the money resigns, where the
1169
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:54.519
money resides. Give me the two teams with the biggest
1170
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:58.159
bags in the country, Texas and Georgia, with Georgia winning
1171
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:05.400
at all based on the whole effect that I think Carson,
1172
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:09.880
you're right. I almost say Carson went so I catch.
1173
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:11.480
Yeah, that's him.
1174
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.039
But I think you put Carson back in the system
1175
01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:19.480
that's solid all the way around. I don't see how
1176
01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.960
a team can really compete with that. The only thing
1177
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.000
you can really say about Texas is one They're gonna
1178
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.119
be dominant in any league no matter what they do.
1179
01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:29.960
They have a great offense, they have an amazing defense
1180
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.360
that I love, and they have the backing of Matthew McConaughey.
1181
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:35.800
Give me Georgia over Texas, but both of them see
1182
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:37.760
each other later on in the playoffs.
1183
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:41.119
He did all that building up of Texas that was
1184
01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:44.239
a great Like, build up Texas all you want and
1185
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:52.360
then just knife in the back. Yeah, it's very very Texas.
1186
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:56.719
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I look, I'm always
1187
01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.400
saying at Western dieda dissolved this football team. I've ched
1188
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.559
the role time. Uh and I know, I know Nick
1189
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.840
Saban ain't there, but kayln David, dude, that guy wins
1190
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:09.719
fucking football games everywhere he goes. He like, look, every
1191
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:13.159
place he's gone wins. It's change the culture at Alabama.
1192
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.599
I watched, I was watching interviews with mil Row and
1193
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:19.320
then I said, it's fucking phenomenal what he's done so far,
1194
01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:22.199
Like he's kept a lot of things similar that they liked,
1195
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:24.199
and then he changed things that they would like to see.
1196
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:27.079
So I'm gonna go Alabama, Georgia. I'm gonna take Bama.
1197
01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:29.880
I really am upset him.
1198
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:33.360
I'm gonna Oh, I'm sorry, Bton, I thought you were
1199
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:34.079
done it. My bad.
1200
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:36.880
No, I was just gonna say, I think Kirby. One
1201
01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:38.840
thing he won't know what to do is like when
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01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.480
he would get in these games. You know what Nick
1203
01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:42.519
Saban does because you you work for him, you know
1204
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:44.960
everything about him. Now you're kind of like, fuck's this
1205
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:47.920
guy got him this sleep? What's he what's he gonna do?
1206
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.000
And he's a psycho too, sneaky psycho he'll go for
1207
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.360
whenever he wants. I mean what he did to watch
1208
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:55.559
it was in president and Texas would be like, I
1209
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:57.599
think they're just gonna be fall shortened, just be three.
1210
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:04.000
I think I agree. I think Texas is three. I
1211
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.119
think Alabama's gonna need it just a year. I'm not
1212
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.960
ready to put it put them right in the SEC Championship.
1213
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:12.519
I think Kalen de Bor is gonna do a great job.
1214
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:13.559
I really do.
1215
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:18.199
I just I think that they're just it's gonna be
1216
01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:22.679
a little transition year, and it's it's gonna take some time.
1217
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:26.719
Excuse me. I have Georgia and old miss this is
1218
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:28.679
Lane kitchen chance.
1219
01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:32.199
Chance, I hate to say it is Jackson Dart and
1220
01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.480
those guys. They it's their best chance they're ever gonna get.
1221
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:38.440
And it sort of feels like this is the year
1222
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:41.880
they get to the SEC Championship because I think Texas,
1223
01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:44.559
we talk about the teams we look at. I think
1224
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:46.800
Texas is gonna have a little bit of an adjustment
1225
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:51.159
period only because their defense lost so many guys to
1226
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:56.440
the draft last year that they're not They're defensively not
1227
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.920
gonna be able. I think to slow down some of
1228
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:03.199
these SEC offense. I think that's going to keep them
1229
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:05.400
from getting in. And I think the Georgia and Old
1230
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.280
Miss are just the two better teams right now than
1231
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:14.480
Texas and Alabama considering all the changes with the other
1232
01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.559
two schools. I have Georgia winning just because Georgia is
1233
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.840
the jugger, not right now, but Old Miss is gonna
1234
01:03:21.880 --> 01:03:24.320
give them a heck of a game. As as Peyton
1235
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:26.719
said with Jackson Dart like this, this is an Old
1236
01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:30.480
Miss offense that if anything's gonna beat Georgia's defense, it's
1237
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:32.960
gonna be that type of offense that Lane Kiffin runs.
1238
01:03:33.320 --> 01:03:35.960
So I in a close game, I have Georgia up
1239
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:42.239
beating Old Miss. But no, Ole Miss is a schedule
1240
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:47.239
is very favorable considering the fact you're adding Texas and
1241
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:53.320
Oklahoma into this mix this year. So I onen't surprised
1242
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.280
me Blane Kiffman doesn't get the boys sneaking in there.
1243
01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:59.559
All right, your power five school that's gonna be a
1244
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:01.480
rep on it in the College Football playoff.
1245
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:08.400
David Males is my para five school. The research, No,
1246
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:08.840
I have.
1247
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.599
It right here. I was just always naming it schools.
1248
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:18.480
So I have Ohio State, Georgia Florida State, Utah are
1249
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:21.519
my conference winners that are automatically in and in Memphis
1250
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:23.519
just because I'm a throw them in the bone of
1251
01:04:24.119 --> 01:04:26.880
you know that the low seed, the low automatic big seed,
1252
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:33.239
like the eleventh seed. I have Texas, Oregon, Kansas State, Clemson,
1253
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:39.960
Penn State, Old Miss. I think I'm missing one. Crap,
1254
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:43.800
that was eleven. Let's still still nedther Dame in there.
1255
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.599
Those are my twelve teams.
1256
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.760
Do you think of five? They were all talking about
1257
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:51.480
the group of five.
1258
01:04:52.480 --> 01:05:00.000
Okay, yeah, that's all right. A group of five? Uh?
1259
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.440
Did those are the first five games? The first couple
1260
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:05.400
of games, right? Or another? Automatic bids?
1261
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:09.480
Now we're talking about like, hold on the group of
1262
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:10.320
five teams.
1263
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:12.519
There's only one group of five team that's getting in
1264
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:14.480
that gets an automatic bid.
1265
01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:18.400
Who is your group of five team that gets in Georgia?
1266
01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:26.039
No? No, no, okay, look look listen, listen, letsten listen, listen, listen, listen.
1267
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:29.840
I'm gonna help you. The Power five is sec ACC
1268
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:37.320
big twelve. I got uh those guys. And what we're
1269
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.400
talking about are the teams that are in like the
1270
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:45.079
American Conference, like Native like uh, like Boise State, like
1271
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:48.639
the not one of those teams is getting in.
1272
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.920
I got you know, yeah, that's that. I'm used to
1273
01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.880
the Power five, so we say, oh yeah, anyway, Memphis
1274
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:56.679
is the automatic bit in the American Conference.
1275
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:02.280
That was hard, that was tough, that was brutal. That
1276
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:02.760
was brutal.
1277
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:08.199
Peyton, you're bet I did say. I thought Brandon. I
1278
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.400
thought David, you were gonna just say Boise State. I
1279
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:12.440
thought you were gonna say that.
1280
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:14.280
But why I say.
1281
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.800
State's always always hanging around, usually are at least.
1282
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:21.159
Memphis the last couple of years.
1283
01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:24.880
Yeah, but they see I always struggle with them because
1284
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.719
every time I end up fucking betting those sons of
1285
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.280
bitches in that goddamn conference, they blow it to like
1286
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.400
someone else, like UTFA is always pretty good. Tu Lane,
1287
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.199
well they I don't know how to Wan is gonna
1288
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:43.639
be this year with people leaving. But for me, I mean, dude,
1289
01:06:43.840 --> 01:06:46.800
I'd said this, uh yesterday, I'm gonna take JMU. Dude,
1290
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:49.800
I t if.
1291
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:52.920
JMU year this would be year one and.
1292
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:58.119
No year one like year one eligible I I still
1293
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:01.000
don't see them growing that much to where they can
1294
01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:02.280
get in the playoffs if they do.
1295
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:05.320
Shout outs to them. But I just I can't see
1296
01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:09.239
that this fast. Give them at least two years as
1297
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.880
being for eligible. Then then I'm opening the conversation. But
1298
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:12.480
I can't do that.
1299
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:17.119
Oh, I can't. Oh, I can't get it.
1300
01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:18.880
And Peyton, what's your betting record?
1301
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:22.159
Pretty fucking good? Pretty fucking good?
1302
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:23.599
But I posted it.
1303
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.239
It's crazy. It's uh, it's very funny how I go
1304
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:31.880
from like a fifty, like fifty three rate on like Saturdays,
1305
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.159
to like forty seven on Sundays. But usually that's because
1306
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:38.920
I'm betting a thousand touchdown parlays and one cocksucker can't
1307
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:42.480
get a touchdown. Particularly used to be Derrick Henry because
1308
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:46.480
Ryan Tannehill hated him. I'm convinced he'd be like, oh,
1309
01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.719
I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it. He'd be like, God, damn.
1310
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:55.559
It, I'm going Liberty. Liberty is the power of the
1311
01:07:55.719 --> 01:07:59.480
group of Joe Well. Okay, here's why they have the
1312
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:02.360
best core back of the top group of five teams
1313
01:08:02.360 --> 01:08:02.920
that I looked at.
1314
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:03.039
It.
1315
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:08.039
They do Jamie Seananwell, who came over from Coastal Carolina,
1316
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:10.840
like as proven as anybody that can win in a
1317
01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.119
group of five school here's the one to keep an
1318
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:17.479
eye one Texas State out of the sun Belt Conference.
1319
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:20.000
Yeah, massive overhaul.
1320
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:24.439
Sun Belt feels sort of like if it isn't Appalachian State,
1321
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:30.800
it's probably Texas State. And Texas State plays a couple
1322
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:34.279
of those other power group of five schools early that
1323
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:37.520
could build their resume. They get those wins. Heman Isle
1324
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:39.439
in Texas State. I think it's Liberty because I think
1325
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:42.720
Liberty is the best of the group of five teams
1326
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:46.359
that's out there. But Texas State keep an eye on
1327
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:47.199
the Bobcats.
1328
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.000
I wanted to pick a mac team so bad because
1329
01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.119
it's the best, but they just beat the shit out
1330
01:08:56.119 --> 01:08:59.279
of each other. Dude, like they like dude, playing on
1331
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.760
like Tuesdays and Wednesday nights has to be so hard
1332
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:05.239
to like, you play like four or five weeks in
1333
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:07.279
a row of like Saturdays, and then all of a
1334
01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:10.199
sudden you start playing Tuesday and Wednesday. That's gonna feel
1335
01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:12.920
so hard to like get in a groove. And there's
1336
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.119
only ever one team that dominates it. So it's like
1337
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:19.399
and it rotates to that team's gonna be every year.
1338
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:22.000
It could be newer than Illinois. It could be Central
1339
01:09:22.039 --> 01:09:24.760
Buskin or Miami. I think Miami Ohio is probably gonna
1340
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:28.760
be the best one this year. But yeah, I don't know, right,
1341
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:29.920
Is that true?
1342
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:30.159
Though?
1343
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.399
So they automatically get a bit a group of five?
1344
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:34.600
Yes? There?
1345
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:38.359
That is the way the college football playoff works is
1346
01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:43.560
you're gonna have the automatic bids from the top conferences
1347
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.079
and then there's a group of five bid that will
1348
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:51.239
go to the best group of five team.
1349
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:52.800
So it could be.
1350
01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:55.399
From any of the smaller commerce, could be from the Midias,
1351
01:09:56.079 --> 01:10:00.319
could be anywhere. One team will get automatic from a
1352
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:01.560
group of the group of five.
1353
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:05.560
Okay, I didn't know if that was What are the
1354
01:10:05.560 --> 01:10:08.079
odds that a PAC twelfeen does not make it?
1355
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:13.520
Two and high Back to first off, Pack Twell was dead.
1356
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:15.800
Pack twelve was dead. Why are you gonna get me
1357
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:16.800
so sad like that?
1358
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:17.159
Uh?
1359
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:19.039
I blame Morgan.
1360
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:23.239
Uh blame blame themselves. They got fucking gradedy. They had
1361
01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:26.359
a deal and it want to fucking take it.
1362
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.359
Yeah, Like, I have a hard time theory of having
1363
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:34.399
sympathy for the PAC twelve because they they did all
1364
01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:36.439
of this to themselves. They had a great TV deal,
1365
01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:38.720
they turned it down. They thought they could get a
1366
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.840
better deal and they couldn't. And then I mean, welcome
1367
01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:44.640
to the business of college football. If you don't have
1368
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:47.760
a TV contract and you don't have TV money, you're
1369
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:48.880
not keeping your schools.
1370
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:50.960
That's just how this works, all right.
1371
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:56.840
Your Heisman Trophy winner and your national championship game, David Miles,
1372
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:57.319
what do you.
1373
01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:04.000
Have my h Husband Trophy winner? I have? Who do
1374
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:09.640
I say? Was the Georgian quarterback George Carson back? I
1375
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:11.800
think that this is the year where actually it's between
1376
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:14.600
It's gonna between him and Jalen Milroe. I do want Jalen.
1377
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:18.399
I want to see Jalen Milroe grow and develop into
1378
01:11:18.600 --> 01:11:22.359
what he what was the what was the what was
1379
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:24.000
the l s U quarterbacks name.
1380
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:25.680
Just Jadan Daniels.
1381
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:29.119
I want him to be more more efficient Jayden Daniels.
1382
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:31.279
But I don't know if that's what he can do
1383
01:11:31.359 --> 01:11:33.399
in Alabama. But I do think he comes in second.
1384
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:38.079
Carson Beckson first, who's your National championship game?
1385
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:43.960
National Championship game? Ohio State against Florida State and Ohio
1386
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:44.680
State taking it home?
1387
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:53.039
Peyton, I got, I got h Jalen Milroe quarterback, linebacker?
1388
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:54.840
Really what he is? He's fucking freak?
1389
01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:56.439
Uh really?
1390
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.039
I liked him last year I mean this year with
1391
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:02.159
Kaylen daver weird talking about like I look for him
1392
01:12:02.680 --> 01:12:04.760
to do with what he did with Michael Pennox and
1393
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:07.840
elevate his game and like changing. Now he gets to throw,
1394
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:11.000
he throws the prettiest deep ball I've seen in a
1395
01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:14.119
long time. It is and it's also like you know what,
1396
01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.600
it's like, it's God, what was the guy for Tennessee
1397
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:18.600
last year that could throw like an orange out of.
1398
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:20.359
State Joe Milton.
1399
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:25.239
It's like Joe Milton, but accurate and good and uh no, sorry,
1400
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:27.800
Joe Milton. It's so you throw the ball really far,
1401
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:31.279
but it's just not it's just not great. Jaylen Millrow
1402
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:34.119
is like the perfect version of you, and I like that,
1403
01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:38.119
but uh I would also, I'm gonna throw this out there.
1404
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:40.520
I'm gonna take a money on Luther Burden out of
1405
01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:44.039
Missouri long shot. I love that guy. That guy could
1406
01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:47.319
rack up a billion yards receiving billion touchdowns and Missouri
1407
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.720
does what they did last year and the Heisman trophies
1408
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.079
kind of like hard to give up. Kind of like
1409
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:55.399
last year with Jade Daniels was like they didn't make
1410
01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:57.920
the playoff. They were like eight and four, and they're like, oh, well,
1411
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.560
he did just have really good stats. Luthor Burdon would
1412
01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:05.439
be a great like wide receiver sleeper national champion. I'm
1413
01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:08.880
gonna go with Texas, see I flipped it on you.
1414
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:12.439
They got them getting in though, and I'm gonna go
1415
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:14.199
with them beating Ohio State.
1416
01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:21.119
I'm going Oregon over Georgia in the National Championship game.
1417
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:26.359
I think that or Oregon just so much talent will
1418
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:28.399
that roster, and if they can get out of the
1419
01:13:28.439 --> 01:13:33.920
Big ten, I think they can handle anybody in the country. Yeah,
1420
01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:38.880
and my my Heisman from the Oregon Ducks is Dylan Gabriel.
1421
01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:40.960
Super long shot, but for.
1422
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:45.560
Oregon right now, he is the favorite as of right
1423
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.079
now on bucks.
1424
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:48.840
Not surprise, not surprised.
1425
01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:50.600
And I don't want to seem like I'm just going
1426
01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:53.720
with the easy answer, but I really like for Oregon
1427
01:13:53.760 --> 01:13:56.640
to get there, Dylan Gabriel has to play at a
1428
01:13:56.680 --> 01:13:59.239
high level. And if he plays at a high level,
1429
01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:01.640
he's gonna be in the Heisman conversation. And if they
1430
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:03.600
go on to win a couple of games in the
1431
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.479
College Football Playoff and they happen to get to the
1432
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:09.039
National Championship, he without a doubt, will win it no
1433
01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:12.960
matter what Carson does, because Dylan Gabriel is gonna be
1434
01:14:13.039 --> 01:14:16.560
leading a flashier team from Really, what's gonna be the
1435
01:14:16.680 --> 01:14:19.680
tougher of the two conferences? I think that's the That's
1436
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:21.560
the big thing is. I think the Big Ten as
1437
01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.680
a whole is gonna be tougher this year than the
1438
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:30.760
SEC is. The SEC does have some down teams. I mean,
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you look at Arkansas, you look at Mississippi State, you
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look at Vanderbilt.
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I know I'm missing a really obvious in there too.
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Maybe you want to throw Florida in there for shitting giggles.
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Texas A and M say it the word say Florida,
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Texas A and M or under Florida. Florida has the
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hardest schedule I've ever seen, And honestly, I feel bad
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for Bill Napier if he gets fired. Let me read
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this too. He's got Miami week one, Samford week two, whatever,
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Texas and Mississippi State UCF. This is where it gets fun. Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, Texas,
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lsu Ole, miss Florida State. I mean, how the fuck
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do you win it? If you make a bowl, if
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you win seven games, he should win Coach of the year.
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I'm on, I'm serious. That is fucking hard and that's horrible.
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All right, well, I think that's where really this edition
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of the Opening Here Go podcast.
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We are off next week.
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Hold on, I do want to ask this question because
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this has been a topic on my timeline. Where do
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you see Shador's season ending? Seeing is how he gets
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hyped up to be the Heisman hopeful do we see
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getting invited?
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So what the Heisman?
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He'll get invited because he's.
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No, they're gonna win, dude, They're gonna win like five
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sixth games. Okay there, and it's look, let me say,
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let me profreise that it's this is a situation where
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he is allowed him and Travis Hunter are allowed to
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walk in locker room and say, y'all lost. I ain't
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lose because there is our line up front. Is just
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they're gonna get bullied. They got like what a one,
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big one, big five star transfer. They signed another one,
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but like he'll be a freshman.
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I just don't.
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I love Deonse, I love what he's doing, but it's
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like they're just he's talking like they're there and he
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should because he's the coach and all that. I just
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don't think they're there, and I don't think a six
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win Colorado. He could have amazing staffs. I'm not saying
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he won't, but it's like, you can't win just six
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games and get invited. That's sad truth that Travis Hunter.
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Travis Hunter, if he plays the full year both ways
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like he was playing on it, now, that's the fucking
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guy that gets invited.
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I mean, I think he should win if he plays
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both ways, even if they win six games, for seven games,
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because that's fair tire man right there, that's fair. Shoot,
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we as I played both ways before that that hurts.
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So shout outs to him. And I had another question,
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but I would say for our next college football podcast,
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because I hopefull I'll remember it by then.
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Oh just remember it knows he has a question. Can't
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remember the question, that's the question.
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That's right.
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We're off next week. We'll be back in two weeks
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and we'll start previewing the NFL season and we'll be
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ever so closer to week one.
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Of the college football season.
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So for David Miles, for Peyton Gerard, I am Dave STALMINLD.
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This has been the opening kickof podcast