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Welcome everyone back to On the Move Podcast.
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John Lindsay here, Director of Communications at Fellowship Greenville.
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We are excited for a double feature.
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Buy one, get one free guest in the room today.
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We are joined by Brett and Matt, Workship Leaders, guys.
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Welcome to On the Move.
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Thanks, guys.
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Can you guys give a little bit of an intro so uh listeners can match the voice to the name?
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My name's Brett Henderson.
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No, no, that's causing confusion.
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Here we go.
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Uh Brett talk.
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Okay.
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My name is Brett Henderson.
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This is the real Brett Henderson here.
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Yes.
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The real Brett.
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I call him Bert.
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Thank you.
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My name is Matt Rexford, everybody.
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If you don't know me, he calls me Larry because we, you know, well, no, no.
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This is Bert and Ernie, but you got to confused and thought it was Larry, Burt, and Larry.
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Very confusing.
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Brett, Matt, we're done.
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Sunday.
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Hey, well, happy to have you guys here today.
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Uh, you were in the room because you guys actually got to deliver the message this Sunday, which is a unique thing about the summer series, is that it's every Sunday is a different person, right?
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Is that right?
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For the most part.
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Yeah, some people double dippers.
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Yeah, Jim.
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The dunkaroo of the preaching.
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That was for the best.
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That's a throwback there.
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So I'm excited to have you guys today.
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You guys got to both present on um our our series in Hebrews, um, which is Faith Is, but really looking at the story of Noah this week, which man, I just wish this podcast could be fully on the story of Noah because it is just a crazy let's just pivot.
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It's just welcome to Noah.
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Eight more weeks.
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No one else, it's just Matt and Brett and Noah every week for eight more weeks.
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Do you know the Bible?
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Noah.
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Noah.
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Noah, dad.
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Yeah.
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That was a good one.
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That was a uh, I don't know if did it get the laughs you thought it was going to.
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Not at all.
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Noah.
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Seinfeld really kicked it out of the park, though.
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Uh kick it out of the park.
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That's all people are remembering really.
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I don't think they heard anything else I said, but it's a very different.
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So hopefully it'll come up in today's podcast uh for all the Seinfeld fans out there.
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But uh yeah, really, I mean, I just I love the story of Noah because again, it is just so absurd in what God was requiring of this guy that is just, I mean, like we're gonna get into it in a little bit, but the thought process of this guy of him following the Lord was just was wild.
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And so today we're really gonna unpack like uh the importance of this story, why it's a part um of God's throwback.
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I mean, he's we're in Hebrews, but he's throwing it all the way back to to Genesis.
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And so obviously Noah's an important dude.
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And so we're gonna look at today just how do we become more like the characters in the Bible that we're reading about today?
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And so um, you know, I think when people think about Noah, especially back in the time, they think about this foolishness of obedience that is like it just it it didn't probably make sense to anybody, it wouldn't have made sense to me back in the day.
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No.
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I mean, what like as you guys were preparing for this message and reading about it, like what how do you put yourself in a situation like Noah that is just how do you begin to start unpack this obedience that just seems crazy for this guy?
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And how do you start to even apply that to own your own life and your walk with the Lord?
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Any kind of thoughts on that to open us up today?
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Yeah, I thought the first thing that jumped to my mind as we were prepping was like uh we found out that a lot of scholars would have estimated it took over 50 years, like it could have been 50, 60, 70 years to do this.
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And just sitting in that thought of like, holy cow, like all of his time, all of his money, all of his resources for 50 plus years day in and day out.
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And that's why we talk so much about like this faithful prolonged obedience.
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Um, and trying to, I mean, I'm only 36, so even like my whole lifetime would not suffice to be able to build this boat and the the enormity of it, the monstrosity of it, like no, it was 550 when he started, so yeah.
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Pretty old.
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You might have like built the door by now.
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Yeah, right.
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I could have installed one door in my home, and I think that's enough work for me, let alone building a gigantic boat.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I tried to think of some comparison to like what if God asked us to do X.
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I couldn't even really wrap my mind around it.
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Like he knew what water was, but like God's I'm gonna cover the earth with this.
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Like I was trying to think of a fire analogy, like if if we somehow we know what fire is, but God's like, I'm gonna do this with fire.
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But see, I couldn't even come up with anything good because I didn't put it in the message.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But the long term of it is the the application for me is God, God is asking us to stake how we live our lives on a future reality that we can't see.
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Right.
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So those are our events, yet unseen is like, hey, I've prepared a future for you that you can't see, but it's just as real as anything you can see.
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And so to me, that's that's my comparison is like, all right, I'm gonna build my life in such a way that I believe that's true, just as Noah was building on what he couldn't see and didn't comprehend.
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Yeah, and I I love putting myself in the chair of somebody who doesn't know Christ yet.
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And that maybe it's their first time in church and they're sitting in there and they're being like, this is what question my kid would ask.
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He's like, God, is is God ever gonna ask me to build a boat, Dad?
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And I'm like, nope, probably not, like an arc uh of that magnitude.
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And so, but I do have to ask myself the question of like, so what is my boat?
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Like, if God is is requiring this obedience and dependency from Noah, like what is he gonna challenge me with that is of that kind of magnitude?
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Because I do think it's not gonna be for us probably a boat with a storm that's gonna come, but it might look like radical generosity for 50 to 70 years.
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It might look like deep forgiveness of people, you know, in scripture, what 70 times seven, like that's a lot of forgiveness.
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And so um even a giving of your life in a way to a calling that might not be occupationally what you set out to do, but God is laying on your heart.
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So I do think there are things in our life that God could ask us to do that would take the duration of building a boat, but it's just not going to be that physical, it's gonna be more mental.
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And so I I it's like, God, what do you like speak to me about what I need to be obedient in for that kind of duration of my life?
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And so, you know, I I that's hard to do.
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And I think it kind of moves us to this point of like Noah had to accept like a future that he couldn't even fathom.
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Like you mentioned, Matt, like the rain hadn't even come yet.
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Like, I think the only boat he might have been familiar with is like a fishing boat.
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Right.
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And so to do something that like has never been done or can even like that is that's daunting.
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That's a daunting thing.
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And so uh what what do you think that we can do to focus on because obviously Noah couldn't see that big plan, like he didn't have a blueprint of like here's how it's all gonna play out.
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Um what do we do to focus on that next right step of obedience in our lives without having the outcome known to us like by God over our entire lives?
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Like, what does that look like for you guys, even as a staff at a church?
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Like, what does daily obedience look like for you, and how do you start to you know successfully do that in your own lives following Jesus?
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That's the big question.
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Big question.
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That's the big question, isn't it?
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The question.
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I think I like the analogy of us building our lives just as he was building building an ark.
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So for however many years we have, you know, 70, 80, if if we're lucky, the psalms say.
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I think so much of it is like denying denying the flesh, taking up our cross, following Jesus, that's that's like my lifelong project of of praise, of of offering to the Lord, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna believe what you said for the future, and I'm gonna live this way, even though everyone out everyone around me is telling me to live another way.
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That's I guess that's my my foolish act of obedience.
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Yeah, foolish obeyance.
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Yeah, I mean, we talked about as we were kind of collaborating, we talked about generosity as one of those easy sort of things to grab onto of like, hey man, uh a lot of times in our in our biblical faith and in our culture, we're giving uh our time and our resources and our money to the church.
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But like, I mean, how much how much could you do with the money that you've given to the church?
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You know what I mean, or to, or to missionaries, or to uh like we sponsor a sponsor a Compassion International Kid, and uh, and like okay, that amount of money for me every month could be a full gas tank or whatever.
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And so at the end of however many years you look at that and say, hey, here's all this money that I could have back.
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But God is calling us to trust him with our resources that he has freely given us to continue to further his purposes in his kingdom.
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And so I think that's a big one for people is like, am I really going to sacrificially give so that God's kingdom can continue to be advanced?
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And I think like long term, if I'm thinking about building my boat, what does my life look like?
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Um, I think an easy one for a lot of people is parenting.
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Like, I have to trust as we act in faith and obedience to raise our kids in a certain way, which in a lot of times is in some ways countercultural, like that God is going to steward these little souls that he's entrusted us with over time.
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And we have no idea how they're gonna turn out, right?
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We can only hope and teach as the way he has taught us and point them to Jesus, and it's like, man, we just continue to pray and trust that one day, you know, if they haven't already, that they'll accept Jesus and that they'll continue to live lives of faith.
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And somebody came up to me after the service on Sunday, um, and he's not from around here, he's from Colorado, and he had this great uh takeaway that I had not really even considered as we talked about Methuselah and Lamech and how Noah came from this line of faith, and he was like, bro, that was so good.
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I loved how you guys talked about like this lineage of faith and how uh it was passed down through generations.
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And this is um fathers and and mothers raising sons and daughters to know who God is and walk with God.
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And I was like, Yeah, man, that actually is that's super powerful, especially for somebody with young kids, and yours are you know older than mine, but still like you have medium-sized kids.
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But as you're like trying to shepherd their hearts and and teach them what's right and what's wrong, and it's like this constant, arduous battle against their sinful hearts and your sinful heart, and you're trying to be patient and yeah, man, it's hard.
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Like that's super challenging.
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I mean, it I think like what what you said is so applicable to day-to-day life, even with just that like tithing piece and that giving piece of like, like in in scripture, like you know, giving God the first fruit.
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I mean, we talked about that with with Cain and Abel, and um, and man, and that is like that is really hard to do because you do play that game of like what could I do with this versus like what could God do with this?
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And I mean, you start to do the math of 50 to 70 years of faithful giving, right?
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Like, that's a lot.
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And what if that was that was in your four hours?
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I mean, as a dad, I'm thinking like that's a trampoline in the backyard, that's a you know, that's a new motorcycle in the garage.
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Like, there's there's so much selfishness that could come with like, but what could I do for myself with this?
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And I think that's the whole journey we're on is is how do I trust that the Lord has a better plan with my obedience than what I could do with it in myself.
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And so I think there's, you know, it's getting over control, it's getting over uh the fear of of uncertainty, and um, you know, because I it it's just again, it continues to blow my mind that Noah did all this before like a single raindrop fell.
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And even when I think about like Noah's circumstances, like the guy was like in a desert, like not even like that close to like I I don't know how I would do in that situation of this feels ridiculous.
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Like um, and I think sometimes when you look at current circumstances that people live in with having to forgive somebody that has completely wronged you, like that feels ridiculous.
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And giving away, you know, parts of your paycheck at the beginning of when you get it, like that feels ridiculous.
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And uh leaving a stable job to pursue maybe full-time ministry if the Lord's putting that on your heart, like that feels ridiculous.
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And so I just there's so much about uh the story of Noah that I love though, because I think his uh his faith started to change how he sees reality, and um that was a really big part about that because I think the world says if you can't measure it, if you can't touch it, if you can't see it, then don't trust it.
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And we see this character of Noah living so countercultural to that, um, that there's just so much richness in looking at that story and well.
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And so, was there any kind of other big major takeaways that as you guys were studying, Noah and his story and looking at Hebrews that really stuck out to you about like, man, I think that's something that like I need more of in my life.
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I wonder if like you you're saying it would feel very ridiculous to do this, and yes.
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But I wonder if we had such a direct encounter with God that we were absolutely sure this is what he said to do.
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Um, we aren't we're not exactly told how God said this to Noah.
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Like I'm not a hundred percent sure of that, but he he was for sure he he was he knew this is your instructions and this is what I'm gonna do.
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And pretty much humanity rests on you doing this.
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Like without it, I wouldn't have gotten to hold that sloth, you know, a couple years ago.
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So I think he got one on the boat.
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That's right.
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Um so I I kind of apply a little bit today as like if we were if we believe just as as certainly that that God is speaking to us in his word and giving us his his revelation, his directions for life and how it should go and his his you know story of redemption and his call for the best way to live.
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You know, if we were if we were as convinced that is God's revelation to us as Noah was like, then then we would our be our obedience would like flow more naturally from that.
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Yeah.
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Um yeah.
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I mean, we've talked a lot in the Sermon on the Mount, like this is Jesus telling people what the good life looks like.
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You know, and he's he's spelling out like, hey, this is how you ought to live, this is how marriage ought to function, this is how your your fasting ought to function, and your prayer life.
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Um, and so when we think about like this is Jesus speaking to us as clearly, hopefully, maybe as God spoke to Noah in that time.
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And so, in some ways, we have, you know, we have God in the flesh telling us face to face, like, this is what I want you to do, and this is how you ought to live, and this is how this is these aren't always like rules, but this is how you will flourish, you know, in the world that I've made for you.
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Um, this is how relationships ought to flourish, and you how to you're supposed to interact with others in a way that is full of like compassion and grace and and and forgiveness is the hard one, you know what I mean?
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And like Jesus continually speaks to these ideas that are countercultural, because he calls us not to hold grudges and he calls us not to um not to seek revenge.
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And yeah, I think all those things are super man with you on that.
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Yeah, and I do think there's probably so many people that wish, like, God, I wish you would tell me how to build the boat in my life because you gave no instructions, but where are mine?
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Like, why why can't you be accused?
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Clear as many.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I think that that is causes you to answer the question.
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It's like, so what is the word of God to you?
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Uh, do you trust it?
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Because I'm a firm believer of like you can't follow somebody if you don't fully trust them.
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And so for some of us, I think in our lives, I know it's been in my life, the times that I have felt resistant to follow God's instructions or his um desires for me or setting up life a certain way, I think I've had like hard seasons of trusting him.
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Like, I don't know if I can trust you with this.
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If I if I do X, Y, and Z, that I feel like my life is going to be different in this way.
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And I don't know if if that's a lifestyle that I want to choose for my family.
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And so I think there's there is an immediate trust issue there that makes you ask the question of, well, what is my relationship with God's word and the Bible and the scripture?
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Because I think he does pretty clearly map out some things for us in in this side of heaven of ways to live our lives and do's and do-nots, that really makes you have to answer the question of, do I trust him enough to follow him?
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And when I do, which I know Matt, something a part of your sermon that I listened to, one of the things that stuck out was this key phrase of faith behaves by responding to what God says.
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Because we don't just see Noah receive the instructions, like he takes it and he does it.
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And I've like, ugh, there's another like we we use this language, check engine light comes on, where I have to stop and ask myself, like, am I responding to what I am hearing?
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And if I'm not, there's a deficiency of faith that's happening in my life.
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And so um I don't know what's what's y'all's thoughts on that?
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I mean, like, how do you move from how do you how do you take that first step of of doing what he's asking of you?
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And have you seen in your life any things that are trip you up from doing that or common things that make that hard in your life?
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Um I think one thing that makes it a little bit easier um is if you surround yourself with like really good community.
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Like you've got to have people in your life um who are quick to call you out and be like, hey, this is not it.
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And this is not acting in line with like the character of Jesus or what I think you should be doing with your life.
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Like you have to have men and women who also love Jesus and who will come alongside you and you point them and they point you, and it's a communal effort as we all sort of because it's like the Christian life is not one that's meant to be lived alone or lived in a vacuum.
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It's not me just following Jesus and and so many times, uh like you know, Bible belt culture, we talk about, hey, this is my personal relationship with Jesus.
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And it's like, yes, and we the church are doing this as we spur one another on.
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And so you gotta have accountability.
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You have to have people who are willing and bold enough.
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Uh, we're supposed to confess our sins to one another.
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You know what I mean?
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And so um you spend enough time in God's word, hopefully, you know, where you can say, Hey, I think this is what God is telling me.
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If I have a big job decision or something that's gonna impact the trajectory of my life, you have to take that to people who also love Jesus and say, Do you think, you know, you seek wise counsel?
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I feel like I do this all the time with the guys that I know.
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I'm like, is this a good idea?
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Is this do I feel like an idiot for doing this?
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I feel like this is what God is calling me to do.
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Um and that's yeah, man, that is just um priceless in my opinion.
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That's good.
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Community is important.
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I think so.
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Go back to your question, taking the first step of obedience, maybe I suggest is like don't try to focus on a hundred things at a time.
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I I think we we dove down on forgiveness as one example, but then I I really challenge people like, hey, you know what you struggle with.
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Take one take one thing this week and go back and remember what God has said about it.
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And then what's the what's a step?
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Yeah.
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So it I think it's really hard to grow in twelve areas of life deeply at once.
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I don't know if you guys have fine found that, but usually God's working on me in one one.
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Yeah.
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He's like let's go deep here.
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And then that's usually what I'm talking to community about, and and our our wives are speaking into, and we're God's speaking to us, and there's just that.
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So don't try to don't try to just be like, I gotta fix everything at one time.
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But I think there's a deeper sanctification and and maybe one area that's going on, and you you listen to that, you focus on that and go deeper.
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So and I would even challenge like this week, like that's a simple prayer in itself of like, God, will you show me what that one thing is?
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Like, will you uh I know you're willing to work in my life, will you expose to me in my heart something that I need to take a next step of obedience in?
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And a lot of times when you're bold enough to pray that prayer, he'll show you.
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Uh he'll show you.
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Like it'll bring it up, like it'll, it'll feel like a weight that's like, oh my gosh, I I am being disobedient.
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And I think as I've tried to, you know, live a life that's maturing in my faith, that's really been the journey, is my next step of obedience because it's pretty clear when I'm not being obedient in one of the areas of my life, like it feels off in there and there's an insecurity and relationships are getting destroyed.
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And so I would I would challenge listeners to pray that prayer this week of God show me what my next step of obedience is um and kind of follow, follow the lead of the Lord that He has for you.
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And I don't want to, I know we're getting towards the end, but we don't want to ever divorce it from our third point, which felt so Sunday school.
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I don't know if you did also saying, look to Jesus, like right.
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This could be the third point of any message that was ever preached, but um since we have you know kind of likened ourselves to Noah the whole time, I we can't take it away from Hebrews 12, the beginning of it is like, hey, these are all examples of people, um, but you you know about Christ.
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Look to him who endured the cross for you.
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That's how you're going to endure.
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And so that was we have to make that application this side of Jesus.
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Like obviously, Noah didn't have that, right?
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Or Abraham or Sarah, they they acted in faith in different ways, looking forward.
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We we we look back a lot and remember.
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So by the Spirit's help is how we are are changing these these one or two areas and he's working in us.
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So it's a mysterious thing.
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We say at most applications to most of our sermons here, we tie it back to Christ.
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But I hope I hope people realize the importance and the depth of that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's a great point.
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And because I think when we look at faith, I mean the things that I see from the story of Noah is is really four things.
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Is it it can change how you see your day-to-day reality.
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Uh, having faith um really is a bridge to relationship with God.
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Like we see that that's a connector of when we have faith, there is a closeness at even in Hebrews 11:6, without faith it's impossible to please God.
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And so we see that relationship piece.
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Um, I think it powers foolish and long-term obedience, which God I need more of every day.
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What appears foolish, what appears foolish in the end.
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That's right.
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Yeah, I think for that clarity.
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And then four, I mean, I think it relieves the burden of knowing the future, which I need more of that too, because life is stressful uh and there's a weight to it sometime of having to feel like you've figured it all out.
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And so um, I think my prayer for us in the room and everyone listening is like, God, would you help us be more uh a people of faith for those four reasons?
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Because I think a life like that changes the dependency of ourselves to dependency on him, uh, which I think we can all use a little bit more of.
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So good.
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Hey, but before we leave, as we round up, uh, give me real quick, Brett, you get on the ark, you're Noah.
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What's the first uh animal you're gonna go and just interact with?
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Oh man.
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Uh I gotta go, I gotta go lion.
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Like I have to see these lions.
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If like when you see one in person, they're just so majestic and beautiful and terrifying.
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True, true.
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And hopefully it's like behind an enclosure, like it's not gonna, you know, or maybe they're tamed somehow.
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They're tamed in the thing.
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I think they're respectful.
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Everyone's nice.
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Yeah, these are kind lions.
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So yeah very cordial, quite a lot of people.
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Gotta go with line.
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Yeah.
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All right, line for bread.
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Matt, what animal are you gonna go?
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High five first.
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The I think the orangutan.
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Oh, yeah.
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You gotta go just hang out with him.
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Just terrifying.
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Learn from his wisdom.
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Nothing just like sharing a banana with a big gorilla or something.
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Just hang out and just feel the power.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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Well, thanks, guys, for being on today's episode of On the Move.
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On the move.
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On the move.
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Welcome everyone back to On the Move Podcast.
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John Lindsay here, Director of Communications at Fellowship Greenville.
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We are excited for a double feature.
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Buy one, get one free guest in the room today.
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We are joined by Brett and Matt, Workship Leaders, guys.
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Welcome to On the Move.
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Thanks, guys.
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Can you guys give a little bit of an intro so uh listeners can match the voice to the name?
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My name's Brett Henderson.
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No, no, that's causing confusion.
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Here we go.
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Uh Brett talk.
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Okay.
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My name is Brett Henderson.
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This is the real Brett Henderson here.
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Yes.
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The real Brett.
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I call him Bert.
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Thank you.
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My name is Matt Rexford, everybody.
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If you don't know me, he calls me Larry because we, you know, well, no, no.
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This is Bert and Ernie, but you got to confused and thought it was Larry, Burt, and Larry.
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Very confusing.
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Brett, Matt, we're done.
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Sunday.
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Hey, well, happy to have you guys here today.
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Uh, you were in the room because you guys actually got to deliver the message this Sunday, which is a unique thing about the summer series, is that it's every Sunday is a different person, right?
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Is that right?
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For the most part.
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Yeah, some people double dippers.
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Yeah, Jim.
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The dunkaroo of the preaching.
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That was for the best.
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That's a throwback there.
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So I'm excited to have you guys today.
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You guys got to both present on um our our series in Hebrews, um, which is Faith Is, but really looking at the story of Noah this week, which man, I just wish this podcast could be fully on the story of Noah because it is just a crazy let's just pivot.
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It's just welcome to Noah.
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Eight more weeks.
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No one else, it's just Matt and Brett and Noah every week for eight more weeks.
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Do you know the Bible?
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Noah.
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Noah.
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Noah, dad.
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Yeah.
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That was a good one.
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That was a uh, I don't know if did it get the laughs you thought it was going to.
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Not at all.
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Noah.
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Seinfeld really kicked it out of the park, though.
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Uh kick it out of the park.
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That's all people are remembering really.
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I don't think they heard anything else I said, but it's a very different.
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So hopefully it'll come up in today's podcast uh for all the Seinfeld fans out there.
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But uh yeah, really, I mean, I just I love the story of Noah because again, it is just so absurd in what God was requiring of this guy that is just, I mean, like we're gonna get into it in a little bit, but the thought process of this guy of him following the Lord was just was wild.
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And so today we're really gonna unpack like uh the importance of this story, why it's a part um of God's throwback.
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I mean, he's we're in Hebrews, but he's throwing it all the way back to to Genesis.
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And so obviously Noah's an important dude.
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And so we're gonna look at today just how do we become more like the characters in the Bible that we're reading about today?
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And so um, you know, I think when people think about Noah, especially back in the time, they think about this foolishness of obedience that is like it just it it didn't probably make sense to anybody, it wouldn't have made sense to me back in the day.
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No.
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I mean, what like as you guys were preparing for this message and reading about it, like what how do you put yourself in a situation like Noah that is just how do you begin to start unpack this obedience that just seems crazy for this guy?
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And how do you start to even apply that to own your own life and your walk with the Lord?
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Any kind of thoughts on that to open us up today?
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Yeah, I thought the first thing that jumped to my mind as we were prepping was like uh we found out that a lot of scholars would have estimated it took over 50 years, like it could have been 50, 60, 70 years to do this.
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And just sitting in that thought of like, holy cow, like all of his time, all of his money, all of his resources for 50 plus years day in and day out.
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And that's why we talk so much about like this faithful prolonged obedience.
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Um, and trying to, I mean, I'm only 36, so even like my whole lifetime would not suffice to be able to build this boat and the the enormity of it, the monstrosity of it, like no, it was 550 when he started, so yeah.
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Pretty old.
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You might have like built the door by now.
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Yeah, right.
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I could have installed one door in my home, and I think that's enough work for me, let alone building a gigantic boat.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I tried to think of some comparison to like what if God asked us to do X.
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I couldn't even really wrap my mind around it.
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Like he knew what water was, but like God's I'm gonna cover the earth with this.
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Like I was trying to think of a fire analogy, like if if we somehow we know what fire is, but God's like, I'm gonna do this with fire.
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But see, I couldn't even come up with anything good because I didn't put it in the message.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But the long term of it is the the application for me is God, God is asking us to stake how we live our lives on a future reality that we can't see.
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Right.
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So those are our events, yet unseen is like, hey, I've prepared a future for you that you can't see, but it's just as real as anything you can see.
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And so to me, that's that's my comparison is like, all right, I'm gonna build my life in such a way that I believe that's true, just as Noah was building on what he couldn't see and didn't comprehend.
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Yeah, and I I love putting myself in the chair of somebody who doesn't know Christ yet.
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And that maybe it's their first time in church and they're sitting in there and they're being like, this is what question my kid would ask.
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He's like, God, is is God ever gonna ask me to build a boat, Dad?
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And I'm like, nope, probably not, like an arc uh of that magnitude.
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And so, but I do have to ask myself the question of like, so what is my boat?
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Like, if God is is requiring this obedience and dependency from Noah, like what is he gonna challenge me with that is of that kind of magnitude?
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Because I do think it's not gonna be for us probably a boat with a storm that's gonna come, but it might look like radical generosity for 50 to 70 years.
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It might look like deep forgiveness of people, you know, in scripture, what 70 times seven, like that's a lot of forgiveness.
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And so um even a giving of your life in a way to a calling that might not be occupationally what you set out to do, but God is laying on your heart.
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So I do think there are things in our life that God could ask us to do that would take the duration of building a boat, but it's just not going to be that physical, it's gonna be more mental.
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And so I I it's like, God, what do you like speak to me about what I need to be obedient in for that kind of duration of my life?
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And so, you know, I I that's hard to do.
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And I think it kind of moves us to this point of like Noah had to accept like a future that he couldn't even fathom.
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Like you mentioned, Matt, like the rain hadn't even come yet.
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Like, I think the only boat he might have been familiar with is like a fishing boat.
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Right.
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And so to do something that like has never been done or can even like that is that's daunting.
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That's a daunting thing.
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And so uh what what do you think that we can do to focus on because obviously Noah couldn't see that big plan, like he didn't have a blueprint of like here's how it's all gonna play out.
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Um what do we do to focus on that next right step of obedience in our lives without having the outcome known to us like by God over our entire lives?
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Like, what does that look like for you guys, even as a staff at a church?
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Like, what does daily obedience look like for you, and how do you start to you know successfully do that in your own lives following Jesus?
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That's the big question.
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Big question.
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That's the big question, isn't it?
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The question.
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I think I like the analogy of us building our lives just as he was building building an ark.
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So for however many years we have, you know, 70, 80, if if we're lucky, the psalms say.
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I think so much of it is like denying denying the flesh, taking up our cross, following Jesus, that's that's like my lifelong project of of praise, of of offering to the Lord, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna believe what you said for the future, and I'm gonna live this way, even though everyone out everyone around me is telling me to live another way.
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That's I guess that's my my foolish act of obedience.
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Yeah, foolish obeyance.
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Yeah, I mean, we talked about as we were kind of collaborating, we talked about generosity as one of those easy sort of things to grab onto of like, hey man, uh a lot of times in our in our biblical faith and in our culture, we're giving uh our time and our resources and our money to the church.
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But like, I mean, how much how much could you do with the money that you've given to the church?
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You know what I mean, or to, or to missionaries, or to uh like we sponsor a sponsor a Compassion International Kid, and uh, and like okay, that amount of money for me every month could be a full gas tank or whatever.
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And so at the end of however many years you look at that and say, hey, here's all this money that I could have back.
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But God is calling us to trust him with our resources that he has freely given us to continue to further his purposes in his kingdom.
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And so I think that's a big one for people is like, am I really going to sacrificially give so that God's kingdom can continue to be advanced?
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And I think like long term, if I'm thinking about building my boat, what does my life look like?
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Um, I think an easy one for a lot of people is parenting.
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Like, I have to trust as we act in faith and obedience to raise our kids in a certain way, which in a lot of times is in some ways countercultural, like that God is going to steward these little souls that he's entrusted us with over time.
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And we have no idea how they're gonna turn out, right?
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We can only hope and teach as the way he has taught us and point them to Jesus, and it's like, man, we just continue to pray and trust that one day, you know, if they haven't already, that they'll accept Jesus and that they'll continue to live lives of faith.
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And somebody came up to me after the service on Sunday, um, and he's not from around here, he's from Colorado, and he had this great uh takeaway that I had not really even considered as we talked about Methuselah and Lamech and how Noah came from this line of faith, and he was like, bro, that was so good.
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I loved how you guys talked about like this lineage of faith and how uh it was passed down through generations.
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And this is um fathers and and mothers raising sons and daughters to know who God is and walk with God.
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And I was like, Yeah, man, that actually is that's super powerful, especially for somebody with young kids, and yours are you know older than mine, but still like you have medium-sized kids.
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But as you're like trying to shepherd their hearts and and teach them what's right and what's wrong, and it's like this constant, arduous battle against their sinful hearts and your sinful heart, and you're trying to be patient and yeah, man, it's hard.
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Like that's super challenging.
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I mean, it I think like what what you said is so applicable to day-to-day life, even with just that like tithing piece and that giving piece of like, like in in scripture, like you know, giving God the first fruit.
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I mean, we talked about that with with Cain and Abel, and um, and man, and that is like that is really hard to do because you do play that game of like what could I do with this versus like what could God do with this?
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And I mean, you start to do the math of 50 to 70 years of faithful giving, right?
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Like, that's a lot.
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And what if that was that was in your four hours?
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I mean, as a dad, I'm thinking like that's a trampoline in the backyard, that's a you know, that's a new motorcycle in the garage.
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Like, there's there's so much selfishness that could come with like, but what could I do for myself with this?
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And I think that's the whole journey we're on is is how do I trust that the Lord has a better plan with my obedience than what I could do with it in myself.
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And so I think there's, you know, it's getting over control, it's getting over uh the fear of of uncertainty, and um, you know, because I it it's just again, it continues to blow my mind that Noah did all this before like a single raindrop fell.
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And even when I think about like Noah's circumstances, like the guy was like in a desert, like not even like that close to like I I don't know how I would do in that situation of this feels ridiculous.
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Like um, and I think sometimes when you look at current circumstances that people live in with having to forgive somebody that has completely wronged you, like that feels ridiculous.
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And giving away, you know, parts of your paycheck at the beginning of when you get it, like that feels ridiculous.
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And uh leaving a stable job to pursue maybe full-time ministry if the Lord's putting that on your heart, like that feels ridiculous.
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And so I just there's so much about uh the story of Noah that I love though, because I think his uh his faith started to change how he sees reality, and um that was a really big part about that because I think the world says if you can't measure it, if you can't touch it, if you can't see it, then don't trust it.
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And we see this character of Noah living so countercultural to that, um, that there's just so much richness in looking at that story and well.
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And so, was there any kind of other big major takeaways that as you guys were studying, Noah and his story and looking at Hebrews that really stuck out to you about like, man, I think that's something that like I need more of in my life.
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I wonder if like you you're saying it would feel very ridiculous to do this, and yes.
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But I wonder if we had such a direct encounter with God that we were absolutely sure this is what he said to do.
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Um, we aren't we're not exactly told how God said this to Noah.
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Like I'm not a hundred percent sure of that, but he he was for sure he he was he knew this is your instructions and this is what I'm gonna do.
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And pretty much humanity rests on you doing this.
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Like without it, I wouldn't have gotten to hold that sloth, you know, a couple years ago.
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So I think he got one on the boat.
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That's right.
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Um so I I kind of apply a little bit today as like if we were if we believe just as as certainly that that God is speaking to us in his word and giving us his his revelation, his directions for life and how it should go and his his you know story of redemption and his call for the best way to live.
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You know, if we were if we were as convinced that is God's revelation to us as Noah was like, then then we would our be our obedience would like flow more naturally from that.
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Yeah.
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Um yeah.
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I mean, we've talked a lot in the Sermon on the Mount, like this is Jesus telling people what the good life looks like.
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You know, and he's he's spelling out like, hey, this is how you ought to live, this is how marriage ought to function, this is how your your fasting ought to function, and your prayer life.
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Um, and so when we think about like this is Jesus speaking to us as clearly, hopefully, maybe as God spoke to Noah in that time.
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And so, in some ways, we have, you know, we have God in the flesh telling us face to face, like, this is what I want you to do, and this is how you ought to live, and this is how this is these aren't always like rules, but this is how you will flourish, you know, in the world that I've made for you.
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Um, this is how relationships ought to flourish, and you how to you're supposed to interact with others in a way that is full of like compassion and grace and and and forgiveness is the hard one, you know what I mean?
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And like Jesus continually speaks to these ideas that are countercultural, because he calls us not to hold grudges and he calls us not to um not to seek revenge.
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And yeah, I think all those things are super man with you on that.
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Yeah, and I do think there's probably so many people that wish, like, God, I wish you would tell me how to build the boat in my life because you gave no instructions, but where are mine?
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Like, why why can't you be accused?
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Clear as many.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But I think that that is causes you to answer the question.
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It's like, so what is the word of God to you?
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Uh, do you trust it?
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Because I'm a firm believer of like you can't follow somebody if you don't fully trust them.
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And so for some of us, I think in our lives, I know it's been in my life, the times that I have felt resistant to follow God's instructions or his um desires for me or setting up life a certain way, I think I've had like hard seasons of trusting him.
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Like, I don't know if I can trust you with this.
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If I if I do X, Y, and Z, that I feel like my life is going to be different in this way.
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And I don't know if if that's a lifestyle that I want to choose for my family.
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And so I think there's there is an immediate trust issue there that makes you ask the question of, well, what is my relationship with God's word and the Bible and the scripture?
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Because I think he does pretty clearly map out some things for us in in this side of heaven of ways to live our lives and do's and do-nots, that really makes you have to answer the question of, do I trust him enough to follow him?
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And when I do, which I know Matt, something a part of your sermon that I listened to, one of the things that stuck out was this key phrase of faith behaves by responding to what God says.
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Because we don't just see Noah receive the instructions, like he takes it and he does it.
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And I've like, ugh, there's another like we we use this language, check engine light comes on, where I have to stop and ask myself, like, am I responding to what I am hearing?
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And if I'm not, there's a deficiency of faith that's happening in my life.
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And so um I don't know what's what's y'all's thoughts on that?
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I mean, like, how do you move from how do you how do you take that first step of of doing what he's asking of you?
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And have you seen in your life any things that are trip you up from doing that or common things that make that hard in your life?
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Um I think one thing that makes it a little bit easier um is if you surround yourself with like really good community.
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Like you've got to have people in your life um who are quick to call you out and be like, hey, this is not it.
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And this is not acting in line with like the character of Jesus or what I think you should be doing with your life.
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Like you have to have men and women who also love Jesus and who will come alongside you and you point them and they point you, and it's a communal effort as we all sort of because it's like the Christian life is not one that's meant to be lived alone or lived in a vacuum.
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It's not me just following Jesus and and so many times, uh like you know, Bible belt culture, we talk about, hey, this is my personal relationship with Jesus.
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And it's like, yes, and we the church are doing this as we spur one another on.
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And so you gotta have accountability.
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You have to have people who are willing and bold enough.
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Uh, we're supposed to confess our sins to one another.
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You know what I mean?
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And so um you spend enough time in God's word, hopefully, you know, where you can say, Hey, I think this is what God is telling me.
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If I have a big job decision or something that's gonna impact the trajectory of my life, you have to take that to people who also love Jesus and say, Do you think, you know, you seek wise counsel?
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I feel like I do this all the time with the guys that I know.
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I'm like, is this a good idea?
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Is this do I feel like an idiot for doing this?
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I feel like this is what God is calling me to do.
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Um and that's yeah, man, that is just um priceless in my opinion.
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That's good.
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Community is important.
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I think so.
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Go back to your question, taking the first step of obedience, maybe I suggest is like don't try to focus on a hundred things at a time.
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I I think we we dove down on forgiveness as one example, but then I I really challenge people like, hey, you know what you struggle with.
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Take one take one thing this week and go back and remember what God has said about it.
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And then what's the what's a step?
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Yeah.
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So it I think it's really hard to grow in twelve areas of life deeply at once.
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I don't know if you guys have fine found that, but usually God's working on me in one one.
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Yeah.
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He's like let's go deep here.
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And then that's usually what I'm talking to community about, and and our our wives are speaking into, and we're God's speaking to us, and there's just that.
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So don't try to don't try to just be like, I gotta fix everything at one time.
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But I think there's a deeper sanctification and and maybe one area that's going on, and you you listen to that, you focus on that and go deeper.
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So and I would even challenge like this week, like that's a simple prayer in itself of like, God, will you show me what that one thing is?
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Like, will you uh I know you're willing to work in my life, will you expose to me in my heart something that I need to take a next step of obedience in?
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And a lot of times when you're bold enough to pray that prayer, he'll show you.
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Uh he'll show you.
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Like it'll bring it up, like it'll, it'll feel like a weight that's like, oh my gosh, I I am being disobedient.
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And I think as I've tried to, you know, live a life that's maturing in my faith, that's really been the journey, is my next step of obedience because it's pretty clear when I'm not being obedient in one of the areas of my life, like it feels off in there and there's an insecurity and relationships are getting destroyed.
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And so I would I would challenge listeners to pray that prayer this week of God show me what my next step of obedience is um and kind of follow, follow the lead of the Lord that He has for you.
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And I don't want to, I know we're getting towards the end, but we don't want to ever divorce it from our third point, which felt so Sunday school.
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I don't know if you did also saying, look to Jesus, like right.
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This could be the third point of any message that was ever preached, but um since we have you know kind of likened ourselves to Noah the whole time, I we can't take it away from Hebrews 12, the beginning of it is like, hey, these are all examples of people, um, but you you know about Christ.
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Look to him who endured the cross for you.
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That's how you're going to endure.
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And so that was we have to make that application this side of Jesus.
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Like obviously, Noah didn't have that, right?
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Or Abraham or Sarah, they they acted in faith in different ways, looking forward.
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We we we look back a lot and remember.
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So by the Spirit's help is how we are are changing these these one or two areas and he's working in us.
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So it's a mysterious thing.
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We say at most applications to most of our sermons here, we tie it back to Christ.
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But I hope I hope people realize the importance and the depth of that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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That's a great point.
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And because I think when we look at faith, I mean the things that I see from the story of Noah is is really four things.
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Is it it can change how you see your day-to-day reality.
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Uh, having faith um really is a bridge to relationship with God.
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Like we see that that's a connector of when we have faith, there is a closeness at even in Hebrews 11:6, without faith it's impossible to please God.
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And so we see that relationship piece.
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Um, I think it powers foolish and long-term obedience, which God I need more of every day.
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What appears foolish, what appears foolish in the end.
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That's right.
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Yeah, I think for that clarity.
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And then four, I mean, I think it relieves the burden of knowing the future, which I need more of that too, because life is stressful uh and there's a weight to it sometime of having to feel like you've figured it all out.
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And so um, I think my prayer for us in the room and everyone listening is like, God, would you help us be more uh a people of faith for those four reasons?
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Because I think a life like that changes the dependency of ourselves to dependency on him, uh, which I think we can all use a little bit more of.
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So good.
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Hey, but before we leave, as we round up, uh, give me real quick, Brett, you get on the ark, you're Noah.
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What's the first uh animal you're gonna go and just interact with?
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Oh man.
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Uh I gotta go, I gotta go lion.
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Like I have to see these lions.
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If like when you see one in person, they're just so majestic and beautiful and terrifying.
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True, true.
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And hopefully it's like behind an enclosure, like it's not gonna, you know, or maybe they're tamed somehow.
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They're tamed in the thing.
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I think they're respectful.
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Everyone's nice.
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Yeah, these are kind lions.
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So yeah very cordial, quite a lot of people.
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Gotta go with line.
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Yeah.
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All right, line for bread.
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Matt, what animal are you gonna go?
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High five first.
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The I think the orangutan.
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Oh, yeah.
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You gotta go just hang out with him.
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Just terrifying.
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Learn from his wisdom.
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Nothing just like sharing a banana with a big gorilla or something.
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Just hang out and just feel the power.
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Yeah.
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That's great.
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Well, thanks, guys, for being on today's episode of On the Move.
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