The Witch is Back

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Mm-hmm. I'm not going to move much at all.
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Well, that's a life choice you've made.
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I'm right here.
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Life choices.
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Mm-hmm.
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This is Lane Hughes from the film You're Next, VHS,
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Horrible Way to Die, and Popsicle.
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You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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All my life I've been looking for my day I've
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been looking for.
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My day It's showtime.
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The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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and parental discretion is advised.
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Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million.
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Kilowatts of power.
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What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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I'm Brian.
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And I'm Jacqueline.
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And we're coming to you live via digital recording from,
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what did we call this place last time?
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I don't remember.
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Make up something new.
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Uh, um.
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Grindel's House of Fun.
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I was about to say like the procrastination destination or
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something like that. I don't know.
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It goes well with your I'm not moving.
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Plan that you had earlier. No, I haven't. I did
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not take off my sweatpants.
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I wasn't going to call you out for that, so
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you've done it to yourself.
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Yeah.
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I'm proud.
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So, we're on location here, hanging out. Have you seen
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anything lately that's not this movie we're about to get into?
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Hang on.
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Yeah, I was thinking.
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I was like, I have seen movies recently. I know
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I have. What did I go to the theater to
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see recently? I mean, I saw Moonlight. This is after Moonlight.
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I love Moonlight.
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We can return to that. On the Oscars special.
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Yes, we can. Man, it's like sweeping every award show
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right now.
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It's a toss-up, though.
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But it's like, okay, so we're going to let it
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win everything but the Oscars.
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Except the Oscars, because there's a way big flashy thing
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that's going to win the Oscars. And picture it probably will.
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Hollywood loves Hollywood. It's a movie about Hollywood. They love
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movies about film anyway, so... On top of that, it
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is pretty good. Acting, it's a toss-up. They might not
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give it to What's-His-Face. They might give it to Moonlight.
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I think Emma's got a pretty good shot.
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Trevante. His name is Trevante something.
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I think.
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I just hear good things about him.
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He's just a beautiful man, and so I followed him
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on Instagram.
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Not Ryan.
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What?
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That's sort of the... I mean.
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Yeah, but he's old news. Trevante, he's fresh.
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Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying. It might be one
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of those you're a pretty impressive kid right out of
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the gate kind of wins. Those don't happen much, but
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every once.
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In a while.
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He's 26 years old. But still, for Hollywood, that is
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like an infant. Yes. Compared to the 90-year-old people voting,
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he is a baby.
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I mean, I was saying he's 26, but he looks
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much older because.
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He's so developed. Does he?
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You know how last year I was like all blushing
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about Oscar Isaac.
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All right, all right.
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This year, Trevante, what's his name?
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Trevante, what's his name?
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Mm-hmm. I'm sweating right over here.
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Just in case you're out there, Trevante, listening. She may
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not know your name, but she's all about you.
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Mm-hmm. I'm sure he knows.
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I'm sure if you win the Oscar, people will eventually
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know your name.
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Yeah.
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No offense. So.
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Have you seen anything recently besides this movie?
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Again, I had to double check. I'm like, that's the name,
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isn't it?
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Yeah.
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So last, in the past week on the wonders that
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is Netflix, I watched Dog Eat Dog.
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Dog Eat Dog.
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So like, I usually play the game that I think
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everybody plays, which is you get on Netflix and you're like,
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that looks kind of interesting. Not right now. hmm, no,
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I didn't know that was on here. That's cool. Not
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right now. And then like an hour and a half later,
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when you could have already watched an entire movie, you're like,
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maybe this one. And then I just go to sleep anyway.
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So sometimes I will like combat that by knee jerk
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reaction of like the first one I get to that's like, huh,
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I'll just hit it. I'm just like play. And by
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then it's too much trouble to stop it. That was
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dog eat dog. It was just like, oh, this looks
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like a train wreck that I'm going to enjoy. Because
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I did that once or twice in the last year
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because like every 15 minutes, Nicolas Cage makes a new movie.
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Right.
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And it goes right on Netflix because God forbid anybody
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wants to watch these things. So this was another... Again,
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I thought I couldn't tell exactly what it was by it.
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I just kind of... It's Nicolas Cage and Willem Dafoe.
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Okay.
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And even weirder, once I got into it, like directed
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by Paul Schrader. So I'm like, that's... kind of a
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big name to be pulled into a silly nicholas cage
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movie so i mean it's it's based on a novel
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it's like its own by the end i was just
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like it's not even like train wreck fun like i've
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watched a couple of nicholas cage movies i'm like oh
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that was ridiculous and i'm glad i watched it this
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wasn't really that this was like that was a bunch
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of gangsters doing gangster shit but It replaced gangsters with
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bad thieves and wannabe kidnappers. It's just sort of crime drama-ish,
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but not compelling crime drama. It is based on a novel,
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but it kind of feels like it's based on a
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pulpy novel from years ago, which I don't think it's
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that old. It feels kind of like a schlocky crime
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drama that just happened to get recognizable names attached to it.
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Very bizarre. Yes. does that mess with your dreams like
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right before you go to sleep is like willem dafoe nicholas.
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Cage nothing can be more frightening than him in a
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snickers commercial so i mean him dressed in that white
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dress is enough to haunt me i don't i don't
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think anything although no we do see him like kind
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of hooking up with women in this which is a
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frightening thing and him getting a weird massage from this woman. Yeah,
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it's weird. It's the kind of things I guess Willem
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Dafoe would have to do if he wasn't Willem Dafoe.
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No offense.
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He's a great actor, but he's a weird dude. Out
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in the world, he's not bagging chicks. I'm like, yeah,
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this is probably the life if you're Willem Dafoe.
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Those are two weird looking people.
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Two weird looking dudes. And there's a third one that
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I don't know. It was Christopher Matthew Cook. It's three guys.
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He's the other one. So how do you get to
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be the third in that trio? But He's fine. Like,
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he does a good job as well. Like, not even
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Nicolas Cage is, like, hammy, really. He's normal. Like, he
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can turn in great performances and ridiculous performances. This is
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just sort of middle of the road for him. Like
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I said, it's not even, like, train wreck bad. It's just, huh. Yeah,
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that was a movie.
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What was that one where he was a wizard?
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Season of the Witch. He was fighting witches. No, the
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wizard one is Sorcerer's Apprentice? Yeah, yeah. That's the Disney-produced one.
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that he's a wizard. I'm pretty sure there's another one
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in there, he's probably a wizard. That seems like, you know,
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when you got that many.
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He was Doctor Strange before Doctor Strange.
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You got that many castles to pay off, you're gonna
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make a lot of wizard movies along the way, and
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they're all gonna end up on Netflix. So, yeah, that
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was my recent viewing. Not really steering people away from it,
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but I'm not telling you to run to it either.
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It's just a movie, and there's some people in it.
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Yup.
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I re... I don't know what got into me, but
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a couple of weeks ago, I decided, I own this movie,
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I decided to re-watch King Kong.
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Which King Kong?
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The more recent, like 2004, whatever. Jack Black.
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I was just trying to think, who's the one that
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doesn't match in that one?
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Yeah, Adrian Brody.
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Jack Black.
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I was thinking that today because, yeah, one of the
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other things I watched had Naomi Watts in it. And
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I was like, oh, yeah, why do I know? Oh, yeah,
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King Kong.
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And The Ring, right? She was in The Ring?
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Yes. Yes. Which now they're doing again.
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Yeah.
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I was going to address that later in this episode.
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We keep coming back to the same turn of the
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last century horror movies that made a lot of money.
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And they're like, what if we kind of do that again? So, yeah,
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now there's a Rings coming out. Not with a Z.
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It should be with a Z because it's from the streets. Rings, dog.
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Like wing zone.
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So what was your take on rewatching of King Kong?
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It was really weird to watch like a Hollywood, epic
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Hollywood movie. I haven't seen one of those.
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I watched those.
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Well, it was like.
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But I don't mind those. I have an appreciation for
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those as much as weird indie movies.
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Well, I don't even mean like... like I've, you know,
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seen plenty of well Hollywood produced movies this past year,
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but this was supposed to be like this epic. And
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of course it was quite the epic.
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By epic you mean Peter forgot how to edit? Yes. Yes.
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And just like the big swelling music and like the
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very dramatic performance. I just hadn't seen like this I
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don't know, super duper.
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That level of cheesy Hollywood business.
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Yeah, mainstream. All of the humor is even this cheeky,
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I don't know, silly humor.
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There's some really good stuff in that. It's not bad
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all around.
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No, of course not. I was enjoying myself. I didn't
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feel compelled to watch it for any other reason than
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it felt comfortable watching.
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I'm a sucker for that 76. I love the cheesiness
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of that one. That's Dino De Laurentiis doing the cheesiest
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version of King Kong ever. Old school movie geeks will
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burn you at the stake for that because it's the
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original or nothing, which don't get me wrong, that one's amazing,
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but something about that 76 one is so fun. I'm
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just like, I don't care.
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I still want to see this Shin Godzilla.
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Yeah, yeah, we watched the trailer. I remember that looked
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pretty cool.
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Yeah, and apparently it's, like, really political. Like, the movie
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is much more about, like, the politics and, like, you know,
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kind of seeing how bureaucracies would handle, like, a major, like,
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big-ass lizard.
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What do we do when a monster attacks us?
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People were really liking Godzilla and Shin Godzilla because he
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was just, like, a mean-ass bitch. Again, like, unlike... the
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more recent Godzilla where he's kind of a good guy
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in there.
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I mean, even in the original series, it went back
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and forth. It started off like he was the villain
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and then eventually he's just a wrestling superhero. I mean,
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he should have had a giant Godzilla cape because he
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really was by the end. He would just jump in
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and save the day for Tokyo, for Mother Monsters, which
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is kind of how the last one ended up sort
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of being, so... I don't know. I'm still interested to
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see it, assuming they come back. They're supposed to be
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coming back with another Godzilla. I thought they were, just
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because that one made enough money. They're just like, whatever.
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Now he's making real movies, so I don't know if
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they're going to get.
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What's a real movie?
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Rogue One.
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That was him, I believe.
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I remember making that comment about Darth Vader.
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Big, similar.
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I think he got his timing down a lot better
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on Rogue One, so it'll be interesting to see him
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come back, assuming they get.
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Him to come back.
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I thought he was, though. I thought he had a
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deal already in the works, so we'll see.
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I feel like doing Godzilla, it's not like, that's not
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bottom of the barrel stuff.
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It's pretty good. Big time. For sci-fi, you know, that's
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high end. That's about as big as you're going to get.
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Top shelf.
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Especially the, well, nobody likes our versions in this country,
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but in general, fans overall love Godzilla. Yeah. I'd be
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glad to make a Godzilla movie.
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Any kind of dinos.
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I will gladly make a giant Godzilla movie. It works
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for me. And you can come back to Kong in
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the near future. Skull Island's right around the corner. I
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didn't know. There's another Kong movie coming out, I believe,
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this year. Cool. In the near future. Skull Island.
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All right.
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I don't know who it was. They replaced some of them.
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It feels like they could kind of just throw all
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those people back in. I'm like, Adrian Brody, yeah, whatever,
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good enough. Naomi Watts was pretty good.
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I didn't like all those people together. It's like, sure,
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Adrian Brody, fine. Sure, Jack Black. Sure, Naomi Watts. I
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don't want to see them in a movie together.
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I kind of want to see a road movie with
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those three. Getting into wacky adventures that may or may
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not involve a giant gorilla.
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Yeah, if it was a cowboy movie, maybe.
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Cowboy Adrian Brody. Something about that seems off, but it
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seems like something he'd do. Yeah. He's kind of always.
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He's a man in a black hat.
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He's kind of always doing something ridiculous, so.
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All right.
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Maybe we'll take our break now and come back for
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this week's movie.
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P.S.
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I am a witch and I have.
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Conjured you for my bidding. And all my charms and
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all my accidents.
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Are all just instruments to lock you up.
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Drink.
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A drink. Ice cold.
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A drink.
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Delicious golden orange ice lollies.
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Made from the juice of a whole orange.
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Are you a mirage?
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Yes, I am.
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But golden orange isn't.
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Prince of darkness, hear me. They call him Luther the Berserk,
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but his blood brother is called Lucifer.
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I command you to appear.
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Their form is human, but they have crossed over. Spawn
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of the devil, master of black arts. It's been 50
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years since a man looked at me like that. Where
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the weird rites of the supernatural sensualists defy description. No
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one is safe when the Witchmaker walks a trail of terror.
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Are you ready to meet the Witchmaker?
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So.
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You guys know we're broke, right?
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We're always broke.
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I know. And yet we're trying to put this show together.
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Now how the hell can we keep the show rolling
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if we're broke and we can't do this? Sell special
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fiddle fowl.
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Oh.
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Or instead, murder people. Are you just taking random money
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out of their pockets?
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Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Hopefully it won't come to that. Especially if they're peeping.
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Some people will get on board with this.
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Get on board with what?
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The new Movie Meltdown Patreon page. And what is this?
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If you go there, you can sponsor the show itself. Basically,
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you just join the club. You join the Meltdown Club.
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You become a milketeer.
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Do you get a special decoder ring?
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We already sent those out, but those people, nobody cares.
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I didn't get a decoder ring.
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You're not part of the club.
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I'm never part of the club.
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You're part of the secret circle, though.
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It's okay.
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But if you become a milketeer, you can get special
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episodes that only come to you. I think you should
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do it right now.
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Right now?
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I'm just saying.
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It's maybe a couple of bucks. There's other levels you
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can kick in and get fancier. Maybe a couple bucks.
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You don't know. Fancier stuff. But really, just a couple
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of bucks will keep things rolling. What'll get me a pony?
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That's a really high level. I'll have to figure out
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exactly what. That's platinum membership right there. That might be
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above platinum. We'll have to see. What is above platinum?
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Titanium. Titanium.
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Really?
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Maybe that's a step below.
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I don't know.
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We'll have to see.
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Aluminium level. That's way below.
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Not if you say it fancy.
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Yeah. Unobtainium.
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Yeah.
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Good luck with that.
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But for the rest of you, go kick in a
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couple bucks. Keep the show rolling. Go to patreon.com slash
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movie meltdown. And if you don't know how to type
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all that in, go to the movie meltdown.com page. And
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the link's right there. And you can save this show.
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And help me get a pony.
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Damn them, man. Save the meltdown.
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Get Misty a pony.
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Yeah, priorities.
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Hi, this is Jess White.
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Hi, this is Jess Wexler. You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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Our movie's The Lie.
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And hi, this is Joshua Leonard.
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You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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Thanks for being with us today or tonight or whenever
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you happen to.
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Be listening to this.
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The show is about to start, folks, but the refreshment
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stand will remain open for your pleasure.
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It's time for Sofa Theater. Sofa Theater.
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What is that?
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The guy who uploaded this video said it was from
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a tape he found in the Black Hills woods.
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I think that might be my sister.
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You really think your sister could still be out there
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after all these years?
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If there is any chance that I could find out
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what happened to her, I need to try.
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Legend said there's been a curse on these woods.
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Do you believe in the stories about the Blair Witch?
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Oh my God.
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This looks familiar.
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We've been walking in a circle.
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No way. They're everywhere. Who could have done this?
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You did this?
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This way. Come on! There's something out there. We found it!
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That's not your sister.
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That can't be her.
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Come on!
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Get in the corner!
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I'm so sorry.
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It's gonna be okay. We'll be right back.
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All right, we are back with this week's movie.
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This week's Sofa Theater feature is Blair Witch. The year
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is 2016. The director, Adam Wingard. And the plot, do
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you want to go with IMDb or do you want
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to hear Google read to us?
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Google, read to us.
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A man and his friends venture into the Black Hills
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forest in Maryland to uncover the mystery surrounding his missing sister.
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Many believe her disappearance 17 years earlier is connected to
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the legend of the Blair Witch. At first, the group
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is hopeful, especially when two locals act as guides through
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the dark and winding woods. As the night wears on,
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a visit from a menacing presence soon makes them realize
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that the legend is all too real and more sinister
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than they could have ever imagined.
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Thank you, Google. That was way better. The one on
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IMDb had a weird punctuation issue, and yeah, it had problems.
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So that was much better, and with that, spoiler alert,
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because we are going to ruin the hell out of this,
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and it just showed up on your home viewing systems.
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So if you haven't seen it, just telling you now,
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we're going to spoil the hell out of it. So...
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I'm interested to see your take on this since you
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were already leading as we didn't start talking about it
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with not overwhelmingly positive thoughts.
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No, I definitely do not have overwhelmingly positive thoughts. There
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are several things that I like about this movie and
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I wrote all of those down, but the list of
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things that I didn't like about this movie is much longer.
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I don't think I had that I don't think I
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had that big a problem with it. But again, I
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always try to put them in context and look at
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them as what they are and how they got made
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and what they're trying to do.
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So I.
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Will say I don't I don't I wouldn't say I
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dislike it. I think it's a pretty decent modern horror movie.
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What it isn't is the Blair Witch Project. The Blair
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Witch Project was a game changer. Like it completely turned
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the tables on the entire horror system at that time.
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It used an entire new medium to promote itself and
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to kind of like dupe the American public. And it
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was like bonus points on that end. But on top
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of that, it's also an amazing movie just as a
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separate film that what it's doing was so unconventional that
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it's just impressive as a film on top of that.
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This doesn't really do those things.
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No. And if they had just come out with another
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Blair Witch Project, an updated Blair Witch Project, almost even
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shot for shot, I probably would have loved it still.
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But The things that they changed about the timing of
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the movie, the production, the acting, of course, the jump scares,
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of which there are billions.
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A lot of jump scares.
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And in the original, you didn't have that. It was
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like you heard maybe a stick break in the distance.
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And they go, who is that? And that was it.
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It was creepy. And there were a couple of moments
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where it was like out of control scariness. Yeah. But
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it still wasn't ever jump scare. It was, oh, fuck,
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what's going on? It was a lot more of like,
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what are we in the middle of right now?
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And sometimes those were contained. And it was like, okay,
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things are out of control. Things are out of control.
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And then it would calm back down and become a
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little mundane again. And this one, it was like, boom, crash, scream.
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Ashley! Ashley!
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It just hits the halfway point.
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Not even the halfway point. I felt like there was
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maybe 20 or 30 minutes of the build up and
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then the rest of the movie was this spiral.
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I feel like going back, I watched it again today
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and I was like, I think there is a turning
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point in it. I kind of don't want to address
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that yet. I want to get into what... Because to
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To touch on the original, I also will still make
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00:27:27.329 --> 00:27:30.690
that joke all the time. Anytime you're looking for somebody
501
00:27:30.829 --> 00:27:33.130
or lost or whatever, at any point I'm probably going
502
00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:38.430
to yell out, Josh! Because that's half of the original
503
00:27:38.450 --> 00:27:44.309
movie is them screaming Josh. So yeah, Ashley becomes the
504
00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:52.160
new Josh. In that sense, anyway. I think I wouldn't
505
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:55.769
have been happy had they done a remake. And this
506
00:27:55.849 --> 00:27:59.190
is funny because you were there for this previous discussion.
507
00:27:59.670 --> 00:28:01.650
I feel like as I get into it, I kept
508
00:28:02.029 --> 00:28:06.039
making these same little connections that I did with Star Wars.
509
00:28:06.819 --> 00:28:11.660
Probably more than anything, The Force Awakens. Because I'm like,
510
00:28:11.900 --> 00:28:15.119
it's kind of trying to do both things. It wants
511
00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:18.289
to be a sequel, but it's been so long, it's
512
00:28:18.380 --> 00:28:20.150
kind of got to go back and hit all the
513
00:28:20.210 --> 00:28:23.319
points that the original did. to bring in people who
514
00:28:23.339 --> 00:28:26.160
weren't there for the original because anytime they make a movie,
515
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:29.079
specifically a horror movie now, they're always trying to bring
516
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:30.859
in the kids. They're always trying to bring in what's
517
00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:32.809
going to bring in the teen audience because that's where
518
00:28:32.849 --> 00:28:35.049
money comes from in horror movies is if you get
519
00:28:35.089 --> 00:28:37.349
a big enough response, you bring in all the teenagers
520
00:28:37.390 --> 00:28:40.029
that weekend and you get your opening weekend and then
521
00:28:40.089 --> 00:28:42.210
two weeks later you're gone because that's how every movie works.
522
00:28:42.710 --> 00:28:44.789
So if you don't get that huge opening weekend, if
523
00:28:44.809 --> 00:28:47.700
you don't bring in the young demographic, you don't make
524
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.890
your money back. So, I feel like they're definitely playing
525
00:28:50.930 --> 00:28:53.970
that game where there's so many times when they're like, hey,
526
00:28:54.150 --> 00:28:57.190
remember that story? Some of you probably heard before. We're
527
00:28:57.210 --> 00:28:59.690
going to tell it again. So it's like they still
528
00:28:59.710 --> 00:29:02.849
kind of got to mention a coffin rock and they
529
00:29:02.890 --> 00:29:04.490
got to make mention of the old guy in the
530
00:29:04.529 --> 00:29:07.450
house killing kids. And it's like, if you're around the
531
00:29:07.490 --> 00:29:09.880
first time, you know these stories already and you heard
532
00:29:09.890 --> 00:29:12.960
them already told and better the first time. But they
533
00:29:12.980 --> 00:29:15.160
still kind of have to hit those little plot points
534
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.710
of like, okay, we got to get this in. assuming
535
00:29:17.750 --> 00:29:21.500
a lot of kids haven't watched an ancient movie from 1999,
536
00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:23.279
that's old and lame. We're not going to watch that.
537
00:29:23.339 --> 00:29:26.299
So it's like, we're watching this new movie. So we've
538
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.339
got to get all those like plot points worked in
539
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:32.849
there along the way. But at the same time, we
540
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.109
want to do new stuff too. So it's like, I
541
00:29:35.130 --> 00:29:36.650
feel like it was that same thing. It was like,
542
00:29:36.690 --> 00:29:39.089
it's that same thing they're trying to do going into
543
00:29:39.130 --> 00:29:41.829
force awakens is we don't want to be a straight
544
00:29:41.890 --> 00:29:44.910
up remake shot for shot but we kind of have
545
00:29:44.930 --> 00:29:48.069
to reboot the franchise or at least to make this
546
00:29:48.130 --> 00:29:51.319
story work we have to bring people in on the
547
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.319
things that were going on in the last one but
548
00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:56.700
still not completely retread it and be the exact same
549
00:29:56.740 --> 00:30:00.039
movie which And you think that sometimes it falls into
550
00:30:00.059 --> 00:30:00.380
that trap.
551
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.140
Trying to tie it to the original, like kind of
552
00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:06.440
bogged down the movie or like held it back in
553
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:06.960
some ways.
554
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.869
I like the idea. Again, I don't want a shot
555
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:11.890
for shot remake because I always say like, I don't
556
00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:13.450
know what there is to do with that. Like, I
557
00:30:13.490 --> 00:30:16.190
feel like I'd much rather you take the basic concept
558
00:30:16.230 --> 00:30:18.609
and go do your own thing. And there's moments when
559
00:30:18.630 --> 00:30:20.789
they do that. Like, I do kind of like the
560
00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:23.150
fact that it's not like if it were just random
561
00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.329
kids back out in the woods. But the fact that
562
00:30:25.529 --> 00:30:26.609
Heather has a little brother.
563
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:27.220
Yeah.
564
00:30:27.400 --> 00:30:30.339
And he grew up with her being gone all this time. So, like,
565
00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:32.759
it does make sense he would be like, I want
566
00:30:32.779 --> 00:30:33.849
to know what the hell happened to her.
567
00:30:33.869 --> 00:30:35.289
Yeah, the premise is good, for sure.
568
00:30:35.329 --> 00:30:37.450
Like, maybe you wouldn't go wander out in the woods, but, like,
569
00:30:37.529 --> 00:30:39.609
he would spend your whole life kind of, like, messed
570
00:30:39.670 --> 00:30:42.029
up about the fact that your sister disappeared.
571
00:30:42.289 --> 00:30:42.430
Yeah.
572
00:30:42.470 --> 00:30:45.230
Was kidnapped or murdered or God only knows. Yeah, they
573
00:30:45.269 --> 00:30:46.950
created a.
574
00:30:46.549 --> 00:30:51.099
Great, like, reason for them to go back into those woods.
575
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.380
And the other thing I was going to say is
576
00:30:53.579 --> 00:30:58.730
it's only been... 17 years or so, but in that time,
577
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:03.819
technology is so different. So in that short span of time,
578
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.079
all the new stuff that I'm like, okay, you really
579
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.579
can make almost from a technical standpoint, an entirely different
580
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:15.400
movie because tiny cameras now versus that giant film camera
581
00:31:15.420 --> 00:31:17.220
that Josh is lugging around. Yeah.
582
00:31:17.579 --> 00:31:21.650
Um, I feel like they could have done, um, they
583
00:31:21.710 --> 00:31:23.990
could have done that, but I mean, I liked that
584
00:31:24.029 --> 00:31:26.920
they used the drone, um, The drone was interesting. I
585
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:29.380
haven't seen that in any found footage so far, and
586
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:30.440
that doesn't make sense to me.
587
00:31:30.460 --> 00:31:32.240
And it seems like, yeah, it seems like it would
588
00:31:32.259 --> 00:31:34.240
have been the first thing they all jumped on, because
589
00:31:34.299 --> 00:31:36.299
I'm sure they're using it for their helicopter shots anyway.
590
00:31:36.700 --> 00:31:38.329
So you think they just work it into the plot
591
00:31:38.369 --> 00:31:39.180
like they do.
592
00:31:39.589 --> 00:31:43.470
And having the little tiny cameras on the ears, so
593
00:31:43.509 --> 00:31:45.170
it could be point of view.
594
00:31:45.650 --> 00:31:49.190
And that actually makes it, this is maybe the first
595
00:31:49.289 --> 00:31:51.750
found footage movie that I'm like, okay, it almost makes
596
00:31:51.789 --> 00:31:54.960
sense why we have all this footage. Because every other one,
597
00:31:55.140 --> 00:31:57.519
there's so many that I'm like, this is stupid that
598
00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.400
you're still filming. That you're still holding a camera up
599
00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:03.829
to your face trying to shoot coverage of everything.
600
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:05.289
Cloverfield.
601
00:32:06.630 --> 00:32:10.589
What's the freaking superhero one? That one makes no sense.
602
00:32:10.910 --> 00:32:13.950
What's it called? I know what you're talking about.
603
00:32:14.349 --> 00:32:17.559
Fuck, what is that one? This is why my brain
604
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:18.420
locks up now.
605
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:19.160
It's useless.
606
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:21.599
I like that in that movie, though, they used some
607
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.049
interesting things like traffic cams and stuff like that.
608
00:32:25.069 --> 00:32:27.069
But again, that's the part I feel like, okay, you're
609
00:32:27.190 --> 00:32:30.710
really reaching now. Because I'm like, who's piecing all this together?
610
00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:33.910
Who got the okay from the quickie mart to go
611
00:32:33.930 --> 00:32:37.089
get their camera from behind the counter when somebody smashed
612
00:32:37.130 --> 00:32:40.589
through the building? It seems really far-fetched that all this
613
00:32:40.630 --> 00:32:43.609
got pieced together into one thing. Where at least in this,
614
00:32:43.670 --> 00:32:46.809
it's like, as long as those cameras are on, they're
615
00:32:46.890 --> 00:32:50.119
on your head, they're running... They're readjusting themselves so they
616
00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:52.700
can see. Some of them have lights built in. And
617
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.509
everything you are looking at to react to, the camera's
618
00:32:55.569 --> 00:32:58.269
picking up. So, like, for once, like, granted, it got
619
00:32:58.309 --> 00:33:01.109
all edited together. But with the exception of that, which
620
00:33:01.470 --> 00:33:03.890
still kind of seemed weird even in the original Blair Witch.
621
00:33:03.950 --> 00:33:05.589
It's like, who the hell added to this thing?
622
00:33:05.730 --> 00:33:05.910
Yeah.
623
00:33:05.970 --> 00:33:08.960
And put it in a log. But, yes, I mean,
624
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.079
this is kind of that same thing. But for the
625
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:13.539
most part, everything else makes sense why we're at least
626
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:17.130
seeing all these things. Because it's truly POV. We really
627
00:33:17.250 --> 00:33:19.329
are getting this thing attached to their head. And it
628
00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:21.890
doesn't make sense that you would hold a camera up
629
00:33:21.930 --> 00:33:24.690
while you're trying to not die. But when it's stuck
630
00:33:24.750 --> 00:33:26.250
on your ear, you're not going to know the difference.
631
00:33:26.269 --> 00:33:28.069
You're just trying to run away from whatever monster is
632
00:33:28.089 --> 00:33:31.109
coming after you. So from that aspect, I kind of
633
00:33:31.170 --> 00:33:35.549
like the new technological improvements. We've changed it so that
634
00:33:35.730 --> 00:33:38.170
there is almost a reason to go back out there.
635
00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:42.059
Plus the other huge one was GPS. I mean, it
636
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.960
existed that far back in the military, but not everybody
637
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.329
had it on them all day long like we do now.
638
00:33:47.420 --> 00:33:50.549
So in that short span of time, like now it's not,
639
00:33:51.309 --> 00:33:54.289
let's spend 45 minutes talking about the map. Like they're
640
00:33:54.589 --> 00:33:57.490
logged into a GPS system. Like they should never have
641
00:33:57.509 --> 00:34:00.549
to worry about getting lost. So that makes it extra
642
00:34:00.619 --> 00:34:03.309
weird when that stuff happens. I mean, to me, like
643
00:34:03.349 --> 00:34:05.930
people can't follow a map anyway, normally, but like when
644
00:34:05.950 --> 00:34:10.190
you're logged into GPS and following through, like it, it
645
00:34:10.349 --> 00:34:12.550
upped the ante of like, okay, you guys are set.
646
00:34:12.670 --> 00:34:15.730
Like you don't have anything to worry about and they
647
00:34:15.769 --> 00:34:18.880
still are the first, like get thrown into a nightmare.
648
00:34:18.949 --> 00:34:21.440
So it's like, that stuff is kind of cool to
649
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.010
get piled on there. I don't know. I, it, I
650
00:34:25.070 --> 00:34:27.530
think where it goes wrong is that same thing. It's
651
00:34:27.570 --> 00:34:29.670
like it's not breaking any new ground.
652
00:34:30.289 --> 00:34:30.550
Yeah.
653
00:34:30.750 --> 00:34:34.369
With the exception of the new additional stuff from 17 years.
654
00:34:34.449 --> 00:34:37.070
But I'm like, as far as what they're trying to do,
655
00:34:37.090 --> 00:34:40.590
I don't think they connect the way that they're supposed to.
656
00:34:40.969 --> 00:34:42.590
And this is what I was trying to figure out today.
657
00:34:42.610 --> 00:34:44.250
And I wanted to see what your take on it was.
658
00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:47.750
Because in rewatching it, I'm like, because when I watched
659
00:34:47.789 --> 00:34:51.050
it the first time, I was like, well, it was fine.
660
00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:52.949
But I'm like, I think the difference was for me
661
00:34:52.989 --> 00:34:56.000
that initial time was like, I just didn't feel connected
662
00:34:56.860 --> 00:34:59.260
yeah and i'm like by the end of that like
663
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:03.429
you felt so connected to like heather and mike and
664
00:35:03.449 --> 00:35:06.909
josh are like people you know like yeah in that
665
00:35:06.949 --> 00:35:09.269
same span of time and i'm like well i guess
666
00:35:09.309 --> 00:35:10.829
we logged in a good amount of time with them
667
00:35:10.869 --> 00:35:13.090
and i'm watching the the new one the second time
668
00:35:13.130 --> 00:35:15.369
through and i'm like we spend a lot of time
669
00:35:15.409 --> 00:35:18.369
with them so i'm like we we get them hanging
670
00:35:18.409 --> 00:35:21.150
out at the house talking, playing video games. We got
671
00:35:21.170 --> 00:35:23.590
them going to a bar. We've got them like antics
672
00:35:23.630 --> 00:35:26.250
in the hotel room. We've got hanging around the campfire.
673
00:35:26.349 --> 00:35:29.389
All this is really before anything gets going. So we've
674
00:35:29.409 --> 00:35:32.320
logged in like 20 minutes or more of these people
675
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.800
just being themselves. So why is it we don't feel connected?
676
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:43.300
Well, I didn't like the characters. So I think it's
677
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.349
like part of that. And I felt like a lot of,
678
00:35:47.929 --> 00:35:55.429
It was very overacted by most of them. Peter... Peter was.
679
00:35:55.170 --> 00:35:56.949
Just kind of a dick. Peter was kind of a dick.
680
00:35:57.309 --> 00:36:02.039
But him being a dick and being hostile was like,
681
00:36:02.659 --> 00:36:04.559
I feel you a little bit more.
682
00:36:04.579 --> 00:36:07.420
Somebody was going to do that. So you kind of
683
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.960
assume in a group of people, somebody's going to... Especially
684
00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:12.539
when you're under that much duress. Somebody's going to snap
685
00:36:12.579 --> 00:36:13.739
a little and be like, dude, I'm going to kick
686
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:14.159
your ass.
687
00:36:14.739 --> 00:36:17.849
And I think because... I felt like the overacting took
688
00:36:17.909 --> 00:36:22.400
me out of these are just mundane, everyday people that
689
00:36:22.420 --> 00:36:25.460
I'm connecting to. It's not just that they're, like, playing
690
00:36:25.500 --> 00:36:27.300
video games and, like, having a good time. It's, like,
691
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:29.719
they're playing video games and having a good time. And, like,
692
00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:33.510
they have, like, this very, like, scripted, overacted dialogue that
693
00:36:33.550 --> 00:36:36.309
I was like, I can't. You're taking me out of it. Like,
694
00:36:36.349 --> 00:36:36.769
I can't.
695
00:36:37.210 --> 00:36:40.230
That is a difference, I guess, because this one was
696
00:36:40.230 --> 00:36:45.900
100% scripted. Blair Witch Project was not. It was a
697
00:36:45.949 --> 00:36:47.840
lot of, you guys go wander around in the woods.
698
00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:52.119
We're going to keep the camera rolling. Go make up
699
00:36:52.179 --> 00:36:55.780
some dialogue. A lot of that, them bored sitting next
700
00:36:55.820 --> 00:36:59.500
to a tree was just whatever they said next. I
701
00:36:59.619 --> 00:37:01.500
guess it would have to have a little more natural
702
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:04.320
feel to their creating a relationship.
703
00:37:04.340 --> 00:37:04.530
Of course.
704
00:37:05.179 --> 00:37:08.159
And these, you know, in this one, they're like looking for,
705
00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:10.360
like they're trying to solve a mystery.
706
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:11.380
Yeah.
707
00:37:11.400 --> 00:37:15.440
So they can't be totally like, we're just.
708
00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:17.599
Hanging out in the woods. I mean, they were kind
709
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:19.780
of doing that. It was not a specific mystery. It
710
00:37:19.820 --> 00:37:23.179
was more of a general overview, tell the story kind
711
00:37:23.300 --> 00:37:23.920
of mystery.
712
00:37:23.980 --> 00:37:26.599
But not like I'm looking for my sister. I'm going
713
00:37:26.619 --> 00:37:28.059
to talk about my sister. We're going to have these
714
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:32.079
private conversations and. And it's going to be kind of emotional.
715
00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:34.659
Well, not a beat for beat. Like, where did you
716
00:37:34.699 --> 00:37:37.440
find the footage? Where did she go next? It was
717
00:37:37.539 --> 00:37:40.199
actually them trying to piece down exactly what happened to
718
00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.320
her versus the, hey, you guys ever heard about that witch?
719
00:37:43.579 --> 00:37:45.579
It was a way more general broad thing.
720
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.139
Yeah, it's like going and looking for the boogeyman is
721
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.699
the first one. And this one's... Where's my sister?
722
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.860
Yeah. Without my daughter. Climb under the bed. They've kidnapped her.
723
00:37:54.980 --> 00:37:55.159
Okay.
724
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.570
See, I was kind of surprised. The fact that I
725
00:38:00.630 --> 00:38:05.739
didn't hate any of them, really. Because usually in slasher
726
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.920
horror movies in general, like the teens out in the scene,
727
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.400
like hanging out in the woods are obnoxious.
728
00:38:12.440 --> 00:38:12.719
Yeah.
729
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:14.659
And I'm like, this is when I'm trying to decide
730
00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:16.940
if this is where we're going, because I felt like
731
00:38:17.980 --> 00:38:23.119
they're almost so generic. because they're trying not to be offensive. Yeah.
732
00:38:23.340 --> 00:38:27.309
Like 80s slasher teens are just freaking obnoxious. All they
733
00:38:27.349 --> 00:38:29.510
do is have sex and do drugs and get drunk
734
00:38:29.670 --> 00:38:31.670
and are just obnoxious all day long. And you can't
735
00:38:31.690 --> 00:38:35.150
wait for them to die. Like in this new post
736
00:38:35.429 --> 00:38:38.409
2000s era, which is odd because that's also coming off
737
00:38:38.469 --> 00:38:41.679
of Blair Witch Project. But like, cause I kept saying
738
00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:44.840
that about those weird remakes of the other reboots of
739
00:38:44.900 --> 00:38:48.440
like Friday the 13th, especially Nightmare on Elm Street. Like
740
00:38:48.500 --> 00:38:52.090
those kids are, Are so generic and kind of forgettable.
741
00:38:52.730 --> 00:38:55.210
And like they don't have any of that. Like I
742
00:38:55.250 --> 00:38:58.349
called Nightmare out on that specifically. Like none of those kids.
743
00:38:58.449 --> 00:39:00.349
Like not only do they not have sex. They don't
744
00:39:00.369 --> 00:39:03.030
even seem like they interact like normal humans. Yeah. And
745
00:39:03.050 --> 00:39:05.889
I'm like this was not quite that bad. But like
746
00:39:06.130 --> 00:39:08.809
they didn't act like normal kids out in the woods.
747
00:39:09.269 --> 00:39:11.519
Even if they were there on a mission. Like they
748
00:39:11.539 --> 00:39:14.960
were so professional. They were so business like.
749
00:39:14.980 --> 00:39:15.320
Yeah.
750
00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:16.079
And I'm like.
751
00:39:16.929 --> 00:39:20.019
And they never even address, like, the one is a couple,
752
00:39:20.059 --> 00:39:23.420
but the other two, like, there's that half second of them, like, no,
753
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.920
we're not, together. But I'm like, that should have, to
754
00:39:26.980 --> 00:39:30.400
have some sort of real world aspect, there should have
755
00:39:30.420 --> 00:39:33.099
been a moment of them like, so what's going on?
756
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:34.960
You got your own tent, right? So we're not, there
757
00:39:34.980 --> 00:39:37.239
should have been a little more of them. Cause obviously
758
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.420
they spend a lot of time together and they're a
759
00:39:39.460 --> 00:39:40.940
guy and a girl. And eventually you're going to get
760
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.539
to that. Like, so we're not okay. Good. You know,
761
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:45.860
like you'd either spell it out or it would be like,
762
00:39:46.179 --> 00:39:48.460
it's just so not addressed. And then it's like, they
763
00:39:48.500 --> 00:39:51.139
make that one offhand comment in the middle of things
764
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.260
going wrong that I'm like, almost as them trying to
765
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.199
address it. And then they never come back to it again.
766
00:39:56.219 --> 00:39:58.909
And I'm like, that's just not really how people work.
767
00:39:59.010 --> 00:40:02.340
Like that's not realistic. That's very strange that like they,
768
00:40:02.449 --> 00:40:05.250
they never really decide. Cause even then we get that
769
00:40:05.289 --> 00:40:07.429
comment of like, you, you can stay here in my
770
00:40:07.489 --> 00:40:09.849
tent if you want. And I'm just like, all right,
771
00:40:09.929 --> 00:40:11.610
for a second, you seem kind of like a person
772
00:40:11.820 --> 00:40:14.360
at least. And then they come back and nothing ever
773
00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:16.639
comes up. I'm like, okay, now it's just a weird
774
00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.780
offhand comment. Like you're not, nothing's going anywhere. Nothing's progressing
775
00:40:21.019 --> 00:40:25.460
as relationships in real world related, like not even dealing
776
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.659
with a witch relationships, just the way relationships interact and
777
00:40:29.739 --> 00:40:32.719
people interact and all of that. I don't know. That is,
778
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.510
I think the part that kind of leaves you, little
779
00:40:35.550 --> 00:40:38.730
cold about this whole group of kids as they were
780
00:40:38.750 --> 00:40:43.360
who were probably pushing 30 yeah but still kids in
781
00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:46.159
quotes yeah so i don't know i think that was
782
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:48.380
where i ended up on it it's like i i
783
00:40:48.460 --> 00:40:51.679
think there's something so genuine about those original three the
784
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:54.840
first time out and we don't really get that this
785
00:40:54.900 --> 00:40:55.380
time yeah.
786
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.000
That's kind of how it was for me with paranormal
787
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.389
activity too Like, not two, not the number two.
788
00:41:01.409 --> 00:41:01.730
Also.
789
00:41:01.750 --> 00:41:03.889
Paranormal activity also.
790
00:41:04.329 --> 00:41:05.050
In addition to.
791
00:41:05.250 --> 00:41:09.710
Yeah. What's the, Mika and, I don't remember, Katie.
792
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:10.500
I think.
793
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:12.900
I'm so, like, I said, it's funny because I was
794
00:41:12.980 --> 00:41:15.159
going to reference them as we go along here, but
795
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:18.019
I'm like, there's so many of those I haven't watched. Yeah. Like,
796
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.739
there's so many paranormal activities and insidiouses and, like, all
797
00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:23.190
the ones. Just the first one.
798
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:24.190
Paranormal activity one.
799
00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:27.250
But they all, like, they came out on the heels of.
800
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.159
Blair Witch Project and they were all like whether they
801
00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:31.840
were found footage or not a lot of them were
802
00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:34.369
just like we can take a real simple premise we
803
00:41:34.389 --> 00:41:36.849
can take a pretty cheap budget and we can put
804
00:41:36.889 --> 00:41:38.690
some genuine scares in there and we can have a
805
00:41:38.730 --> 00:41:42.170
successful movie and you watch Paranormal Activities the first one
806
00:41:42.190 --> 00:41:44.639
that even got close to doing what Blair Witch did
807
00:41:45.019 --> 00:41:47.300
and made a fortune doing it and so it's like
808
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:51.139
you see them kind of in a different direction still
809
00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:54.719
trying to mimic the idea of the that general concept
810
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:56.380
of what they did on Blair Witch Project.
811
00:41:56.400 --> 00:42:00.079
Yeah, and I thought that that couple was, like, genuine.
812
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:02.010
And I thought, I was like, I know these people.
813
00:42:02.090 --> 00:42:05.250
They're making jokes that I would make at home. They're, like,
814
00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:08.510
you know, bickering in a way that I would bicker
815
00:42:08.590 --> 00:42:11.789
with my partner. Like, they had just, like, a really,
816
00:42:11.809 --> 00:42:16.719
you know, subtle... They had tiny personalities instead of big,
817
00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:20.159
you know... written personalities.
818
00:42:19.570 --> 00:42:22.110
The one I just remember that I thought like both
819
00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:23.750
times the very first time I watched it I was
820
00:42:23.789 --> 00:42:28.409
like here's the part that seems really disingenuous in this
821
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:31.840
in this circumstance once we get away from the normal
822
00:42:31.900 --> 00:42:35.190
goings on of them being a group of people And
823
00:42:35.210 --> 00:42:39.449
we get into the shit. Like seriously, there's that halfway
824
00:42:39.510 --> 00:42:44.519
turning point. And shit is going down. And nobody's going, wait,
825
00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:48.400
what the fuck's going on? Like somebody needs to be going,
826
00:42:48.860 --> 00:42:53.840
what just happened? Because some crazy stuff is happening at
827
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.440
that point. And nobody's addressing it. They're all just like.
828
00:42:57.239 --> 00:42:59.099
Are you okay? Where's Ashley? What are we doing next?
829
00:42:59.300 --> 00:43:00.920
I'm like, no, no, no, no. Somebody needs to be
830
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.760
dealing with what you just saw because that's a huge
831
00:43:05.820 --> 00:43:08.360
thing in this movie is you actually see everything that's
832
00:43:08.409 --> 00:43:09.050
going on.
833
00:43:09.110 --> 00:43:09.369
Yeah.
834
00:43:09.730 --> 00:43:13.010
It's not just like kind of subtle, hidden. You'll hear
835
00:43:13.130 --> 00:43:15.690
a noise off in the distance and you'll think, oh,
836
00:43:15.710 --> 00:43:18.090
maybe I see something for half a second. No, you
837
00:43:18.190 --> 00:43:19.030
see things.
838
00:43:19.489 --> 00:43:22.230
That's one of the main things I was going to
839
00:43:22.250 --> 00:43:24.510
go to. So I guess because we're leading into it,
840
00:43:24.530 --> 00:43:28.219
like to me, that's the difference. main difference between this
841
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.780
and Blair Witch Project and where we hit that weird
842
00:43:31.820 --> 00:43:35.699
turning point because I feel like even up until halfway
843
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.230
in like until Basically, until the second time the stick
844
00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:41.730
figures show up again. Right, yeah.
845
00:43:41.909 --> 00:43:43.710
And that's, like, the turning point. That's the turning point.
846
00:43:43.750 --> 00:43:43.969
Yeah.
847
00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:46.090
But that's, I mean, in a way, like, that scene
848
00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:48.230
is kind of awesome. Like, that may be my favorite
849
00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:50.550
scene in the entire movie. That voodoo doll getting crushed.
850
00:43:50.570 --> 00:43:55.460
The her breaking the stick person. That was a big one. Again, that's, like,
851
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:57.619
the best thing in the movie. I think that reaction there.
852
00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:58.179
That imagery.
853
00:43:58.579 --> 00:44:01.039
And because you did not see that coming because we
854
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:03.659
never had any indication that they're like, if they would
855
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:05.650
have set it up, but like, there's that half second
856
00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:07.969
of her going, this, this, this is my hair. This
857
00:44:07.989 --> 00:44:10.489
is my hair. She grabs it. I'm like, oh shit.
858
00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:13.289
Like that's the, like there should be 45 minutes of
859
00:44:13.349 --> 00:44:15.900
somebody like. just rocking back and forth going, what just happened?
860
00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:18.320
What just happened? What just happened? And we don't get
861
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:20.559
any of that. Like two minutes later, they're like, where's
862
00:44:20.579 --> 00:44:22.739
our flashlight? Let's go over here by this tree. Like
863
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.869
they're very like freaked out, but still not the level
864
00:44:25.909 --> 00:44:28.289
of freaked out they need to be having just witnessed that.
865
00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:28.969
Yeah.
866
00:44:29.289 --> 00:44:32.469
But that I think is the major difference is because
867
00:44:32.699 --> 00:44:36.099
everything that goes on in Blair Witch Project is, is
868
00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.260
all still, as far as we the viewer know, real world. Like,
869
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.699
there is not really anything supernatural that we ever see. Yeah.
870
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:48.000
You hear creepy stuff, you see them react to things
871
00:44:48.099 --> 00:44:52.639
that might be supernatural, maybe, if you want to buy that.
872
00:44:52.900 --> 00:44:53.139
Yeah.
873
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.860
But even, and by the end, it's still sort of like,
874
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.429
what's your take on what happens anyway? Which, if You
875
00:45:00.469 --> 00:45:02.369
go down one road that was kind of the one
876
00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:05.110
I settled on. It's kind of a halfway step. And
877
00:45:05.170 --> 00:45:10.409
in that step, nothing actual supernatural really happens in Blair
878
00:45:10.429 --> 00:45:13.289
Witch Project. This one, like from that point on, like
879
00:45:13.349 --> 00:45:16.050
you watch the girl get snapped in half. The tent
880
00:45:16.130 --> 00:45:18.909
flies up into the air. I'm like, you're physically watching
881
00:45:19.409 --> 00:45:23.059
paranormal things take place. And I'm like, okay. we can't
882
00:45:23.099 --> 00:45:25.639
play that game anymore it's not did something happen didn't
883
00:45:25.699 --> 00:45:28.300
it we as the viewers at home in the theater
884
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:32.079
whatever just watched things happen yeah so now it is
885
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.070
a paranormal story like it is it takes that turn
886
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.469
so much so that by the end there's monsters chasing
887
00:45:38.510 --> 00:45:42.710
them literally there's creepy figures hiding behind a tree there's
888
00:45:42.789 --> 00:45:46.780
a monster running around a corner like it is definitely
889
00:45:46.860 --> 00:45:48.900
a haunted house story by the end of it.
890
00:45:48.920 --> 00:45:52.489
Yeah. And the house is all paranormal in and of itself.
891
00:45:52.550 --> 00:45:52.860
Yeah.
892
00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:55.989
The house changes with the people in it.
893
00:45:56.510 --> 00:45:59.230
So much so that the very end when they're in
894
00:45:59.269 --> 00:46:02.710
that last room in the attic where the lights, I'm like,
895
00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:07.179
What was that, UFO lights? We took a different paranormal
896
00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:09.900
turn for us. I was like, what road are we
897
00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:11.059
going down now?
898
00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:12.320
It could be UFO.
899
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.099
It could have been giant ghosts. We don't know.
900
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:16.679
It could have been rescue lights. It could have been
901
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.179
the drone. It could have been.
902
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:21.360
That was a big light. Could be a helicopter.
903
00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:22.119
Yeah, helicopter.
904
00:46:22.139 --> 00:46:25.429
Search helicopter. Why was nobody looking for them?
905
00:46:25.699 --> 00:46:28.190
Maybe it was the Blair Witch turning it into Dave.
906
00:46:28.699 --> 00:46:33.309
again because you know she has the ability to do that.
907
00:46:33.329 --> 00:46:35.050
But then it went away again so i i don't
908
00:46:35.090 --> 00:46:39.510
know like but that level of of real and i
909
00:46:39.769 --> 00:46:42.360
real world in the fictional film world but in the
910
00:46:42.389 --> 00:46:45.860
real world of these characters you physically see things happen
911
00:46:45.900 --> 00:46:48.300
there's no denying it for you the viewer or these
912
00:46:48.340 --> 00:46:52.019
characters anymore where so much of blair witch project is
913
00:46:52.860 --> 00:46:55.699
what just happened? Like literally the characters themselves are sitting
914
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.500
there going, what the hell did we do? Cause there's
915
00:46:58.659 --> 00:47:02.000
never really like, everything's just weird and creepy, but it's
916
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.159
all the kind of stuff that people could have done.
917
00:47:04.179 --> 00:47:04.659
Yeah.
918
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:05.480
Like it doesn't ever.
919
00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:06.760
And that's what makes it terrifying.
920
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.059
And by the end, even the really creepy stuff is like,
921
00:47:11.300 --> 00:47:15.170
still not really supernatural. It could have been acted upon
922
00:47:15.230 --> 00:47:19.289
by a supernatural forces, which again is what the backstory is.
923
00:47:19.389 --> 00:47:22.170
It's like, everything is based around the witch, uh, then
924
00:47:22.230 --> 00:47:25.250
forcing people to do things. But we don't get that here.
925
00:47:25.789 --> 00:47:28.170
We still have that kind of coming into play by
926
00:47:28.210 --> 00:47:34.099
the end, but there's very definite witch moving shit around, physical,
927
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.920
paranormal stuff going on. So I don't know. That's a
928
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:38.239
huge difference to me.
929
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.179
Yeah, it is, because in the Blair Witch Project, you
930
00:47:41.219 --> 00:47:44.059
had to, your imagination filled in the gaps.
931
00:47:44.099 --> 00:47:44.320
Yeah.
932
00:47:44.820 --> 00:47:46.920
And you had to use your imagination so that when
933
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.340
you were back at home, you heard a little something, you'd.
934
00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:50.380
Be like, what's that?
935
00:47:50.929 --> 00:47:55.130
Blair Witch. Oh my God. But in this movie, it's like,
936
00:47:55.170 --> 00:48:01.510
you know, Ashley, Ashley.
937
00:48:01.530 --> 00:48:04.210
Kick that map in the creek. How many times I've
938
00:48:04.230 --> 00:48:08.030
said that since 1999. But yeah.
939
00:48:08.230 --> 00:48:11.250
And in, in Blair Witch, you don't have to use
940
00:48:11.269 --> 00:48:15.150
your imagination. It's all spelled out very deliberately for you.
941
00:48:15.250 --> 00:48:17.750
Again, is what I'm thinking. And that's kind of why
942
00:48:17.769 --> 00:48:20.190
I was like, by the end, I'm like, To jump
943
00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:21.789
back to my original point, I don't think it's a
944
00:48:21.829 --> 00:48:26.860
terrible modern horror movie. I feel like it's in response
945
00:48:26.940 --> 00:48:30.840
to all the things that have come since 1999. Paranormal
946
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:33.630
Activity is playing with that same thing, but by the end,
947
00:48:34.010 --> 00:48:35.670
you see paranormal things.
948
00:48:36.269 --> 00:48:39.219
You see paranormal things you don't see... any you don't
949
00:48:39.300 --> 00:48:41.940
see the actual thing I mean in later ones you
950
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:43.260
do because.
951
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:45.250
But again it's like it's all building in each one
952
00:48:45.289 --> 00:48:49.349
of these insidious and what's all the exorcism movies like
953
00:48:49.409 --> 00:48:53.150
eventually you start seeing weird stuff physically happen in front
954
00:48:53.190 --> 00:48:55.889
of your face and I'm like that's kind of what
955
00:48:55.909 --> 00:48:59.409
they're competing with like and thing is I really like
956
00:48:59.469 --> 00:49:02.590
Adam Wingard as a director like his last couple movies
957
00:49:02.639 --> 00:49:05.019
have been amazing like your next is one of the
958
00:49:05.059 --> 00:49:09.250
best horror movies I've seen period in general ever maybe
959
00:49:09.449 --> 00:49:13.389
it's like it's amazing what else the guest was.
960
00:49:13.210 --> 00:49:17.170
Really good yeah uh grave encounters let's.
961
00:49:17.050 --> 00:49:18.630
See that one i thought i know if you go
962
00:49:18.690 --> 00:49:24.079
back far enough um Popsco, and then he's on all
963
00:49:24.099 --> 00:49:25.880
the other little groups of them. I think he did
964
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.199
Grave Encounters. VHS 1 and 2, he's got a segment.
965
00:49:29.860 --> 00:49:32.150
ABCs of Death, but I don't like most of those.
966
00:49:32.309 --> 00:49:32.510
Yeah.
967
00:49:32.530 --> 00:49:36.239
I don't know. No, his was just silly, if I remember.
968
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.920
I think they were just screwing around on that one. But, again,
969
00:49:38.980 --> 00:49:41.239
he's just... He's a great director, and he's got that
970
00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:44.510
great group of friends, and he can put together really good,
971
00:49:44.610 --> 00:49:48.110
creepy movies. Yeah. And I still think this works. Like,
972
00:49:48.329 --> 00:49:51.150
on that level, I think as... But not compared to
973
00:49:51.190 --> 00:49:52.969
his other ones. Like, I feel like it's not as
974
00:49:53.030 --> 00:49:56.320
good as everything else I've seen him do lately, but...
975
00:49:57.090 --> 00:50:00.110
compared to all the other schlocky movies that come out
976
00:50:00.150 --> 00:50:02.190
and you know go in the theater for a week
977
00:50:02.230 --> 00:50:04.269
and then end up on netflix i'm like it's better
978
00:50:04.329 --> 00:50:06.570
than most of those like i still find a lot
979
00:50:06.610 --> 00:50:07.300
of stuff i mean it's.
980
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.460
Not a zero out of ten yeah i.
981
00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.599
Thought the i think it's very effective for a normal
982
00:50:12.659 --> 00:50:15.880
modern horror movie that's coming out right now again there's
983
00:50:15.980 --> 00:50:18.920
new ones cranked out every week on netflix and like
984
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.429
i feel like it's better than most of those but
985
00:50:21.469 --> 00:50:24.650
it comparing it to his weather work comparing it to
986
00:50:24.690 --> 00:50:27.659
blair which project like it it it has to pale
987
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.079
in comparison even to his other stuff.
988
00:50:30.099 --> 00:50:31.599
I think it pales in comparison to a lot of
989
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:34.119
other like modern horror movies too.
990
00:50:34.139 --> 00:50:38.659
Even of, again, I feel like it's competing more with
991
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:39.670
the run of the mill stuff.
992
00:50:39.869 --> 00:50:40.690
Run of the mill stuff.
993
00:50:40.929 --> 00:50:41.170
Yeah.
994
00:50:41.190 --> 00:50:44.989
Well, I mean, what else came out this year? Don't,
995
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:47.340
Don't scream or whatever.
996
00:50:47.420 --> 00:50:47.980
Don't breathe?
997
00:50:48.019 --> 00:50:48.820
Don't breathe, yeah.
998
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:49.860
I just watched that recently.
999
00:50:49.940 --> 00:50:50.840
That's pretty good.
1000
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.519
Yeah, I mean, that's... If we're comparing it to that, yeah,
1001
00:50:53.539 --> 00:50:54.059
Don't Breathe.
1002
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:55.280
Is a hell of a lot better movie. That was
1003
00:50:55.320 --> 00:50:57.730
another big Hollywood horror movie that came.
1004
00:50:57.650 --> 00:50:58.010
Out this year.
1005
00:50:58.030 --> 00:51:01.429
It helps that Jane Levy's awesome. Yeah.
1006
00:51:01.449 --> 00:51:02.489
She's freaking cool.
1007
00:51:02.849 --> 00:51:05.230
What else here? I mean, Lights Out. I didn't see
1008
00:51:05.269 --> 00:51:06.289
that one.
1009
00:51:06.409 --> 00:51:08.269
I know. But again, that's the thing. I feel like
1010
00:51:08.289 --> 00:51:11.159
there's so many like that, although the short that they
1011
00:51:11.179 --> 00:51:13.400
based that on was really cool. So I gave them
1012
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.099
credit that they came up much like Adam, they came
1013
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.280
up as indie filmmakers and they're just trying to expand
1014
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.940
the little cool horror ideas that they had that they
1015
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.679
didn't have a budget and now give them a much
1016
00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.590
bigger budget and wider audience. So it's like, I kind
1017
00:51:26.639 --> 00:51:29.630
of like that. But because of that, we're kind of
1018
00:51:29.670 --> 00:51:33.329
hit with so many horror movies now that eventually you
1019
00:51:33.369 --> 00:51:35.409
do get that run-of-the-mill thing where it's just like, eh,
1020
00:51:35.550 --> 00:51:37.710
it's another freaking horror movie, whatever.
1021
00:51:37.750 --> 00:51:40.670
I mean, and I'll see them all. Oh, Conjuring 2
1022
00:51:40.670 --> 00:51:41.090
came out.
1023
00:51:41.369 --> 00:51:42.909
See, that's another one. I kept trying to think of
1024
00:51:43.030 --> 00:51:46.530
all the different groups of ones that would come out
1025
00:51:46.550 --> 00:51:49.210
because then you get the doll offshoot. They all create
1026
00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:52.780
their own little offshoot sub-genre of their own. When did
1027
00:51:52.820 --> 00:51:53.579
the boy come out?
1028
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:54.579
Was that last year?
1029
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:55.699
Yeah, I think so.
1030
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:56.599
Last year, yeah.
1031
00:51:57.179 --> 00:51:59.440
Yeah, so there's a lot of that. And actually, the
1032
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.559
first Conjuring is pretty good. But again, I put that
1033
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:04.679
kind of a step above most of the other stuff
1034
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:06.000
coming out at that time.
1035
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:06.440
Yeah.
1036
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.840
It's just a lot of horror movies. And I think
1037
00:52:08.860 --> 00:52:11.340
that's why I'm just sort of putting it in as
1038
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.449
that throwing it in the middle of them all. And
1039
00:52:13.489 --> 00:52:16.269
I'm like, it's right there in the middle. It's fine.
1040
00:52:16.349 --> 00:52:18.010
It's in the middle. I would agree with that. It's
1041
00:52:18.090 --> 00:52:18.849
right there in the middle.
1042
00:52:18.869 --> 00:52:21.250
It's very serviceable as a horror movie. It's got your
1043
00:52:21.289 --> 00:52:23.710
jump scares. It's got a lot of creepy scenarios.
1044
00:52:24.010 --> 00:52:26.340
I wouldn't ever watch it more than once, but you know.
1045
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:30.119
I might return to it somewhere down the line. I'm
1046
00:52:30.139 --> 00:52:32.360
not in a big rush. I watched it extra just
1047
00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:33.239
for this, but.
1048
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:34.409
If he makes another one.
1049
00:52:34.460 --> 00:52:35.449
If he makes another one.
1050
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.889
I'll go see it. Contempt narration, take one.
1051
00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:38.670
Take two, three.
1052
00:52:38.789 --> 00:52:42.130
When James was four years old, his older sister disappeared
1053
00:52:42.170 --> 00:52:44.889
while making a documentary near the town of Burkittsville, Maryland.
1054
00:52:45.269 --> 00:52:47.789
The final moments of it showed her going into a house,
1055
00:52:48.789 --> 00:52:50.639
seemingly within the Black Hills forest.
1056
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:55.960
That area was extensively searched.
1057
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:58.420
By police and FBI, but they could find no evidence
1058
00:52:58.460 --> 00:53:02.179
of an existing house in those woods. For as long
1059
00:53:02.219 --> 00:53:04.940
as I've been friends with James, he's wondered what happened
1060
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.849
to her. His continued search to find closure and answers
1061
00:53:08.889 --> 00:53:11.510
to his sister's disappearance is the subject.
1062
00:53:11.190 --> 00:53:12.030
Of this documentary.
1063
00:53:12.429 --> 00:53:14.630
That's the other thing. I'm like, I don't know what
1064
00:53:14.710 --> 00:53:17.090
else you could do. And this brought me back to
1065
00:53:17.110 --> 00:53:18.730
my Star Wars scenario.
1066
00:53:18.730 --> 00:53:20.869
20 years later, what happened to my cousin?
1067
00:53:21.730 --> 00:53:24.849
Well, I mean, even this one, I'm like, it's really
1068
00:53:24.929 --> 00:53:28.570
hard to not end up in the same place. Because
1069
00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:30.469
that was my, if you remember, Rogue One, I said
1070
00:53:30.489 --> 00:53:32.449
the same thing. I'm like, we're back at another freaking
1071
00:53:32.469 --> 00:53:35.079
Death Scar finale. And I'm like, it's the same thing
1072
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.440
we're back in this damn house running around in a
1073
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:41.019
circle and having a duke nukem finale as we run
1074
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:43.449
through corridors over and over it all becomes a first
1075
00:53:43.489 --> 00:53:45.849
person shooter only we don't have a gun so it's
1076
00:53:45.869 --> 00:53:48.989
like yay we're playing doom for the last 15 minutes
1077
00:53:49.369 --> 00:53:52.630
like i don't know i i feel like they kind
1078
00:53:52.650 --> 00:53:54.929
of have to because you're making a blair witch movie
1079
00:53:55.269 --> 00:53:57.110
so you almost have to end up at the house
1080
00:53:57.210 --> 00:53:59.030
isn't that how this works but at the same time
1081
00:53:59.070 --> 00:54:01.480
i'm like have we already seen this? I mean, they
1082
00:54:01.780 --> 00:54:04.690
add a few extra levels to it, but I'm just like,
1083
00:54:05.090 --> 00:54:06.809
I don't know how. And then that's going back to
1084
00:54:06.829 --> 00:54:08.530
the original point. I don't know how you can make
1085
00:54:08.630 --> 00:54:11.630
this its own sub genre. And we are technically three
1086
00:54:11.670 --> 00:54:13.860
movies in now, but like, I don't know how it
1087
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:19.340
becomes its own running series without just telling the same thing.
1088
00:54:19.460 --> 00:54:22.619
Or getting worse and worse and worse like paranormal activity.
1089
00:54:22.659 --> 00:54:22.820
Yeah.
1090
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:24.940
Why did they ever make another one?
1091
00:54:25.619 --> 00:54:26.699
Because it made money.
1092
00:54:26.780 --> 00:54:26.960
God.
1093
00:54:26.980 --> 00:54:31.719
Because it made truckloads of money for zero dollar investment.
1094
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:33.480
I thought the third one was alright.
1095
00:54:33.659 --> 00:54:35.840
They spent so little money on that first one and
1096
00:54:35.900 --> 00:54:37.239
it made a fortune.
1097
00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:37.960
It made a fortune.
1098
00:54:39.510 --> 00:54:42.170
So, I mean, that explains exactly why they keep making
1099
00:54:42.190 --> 00:54:42.909
those horror movies.
1100
00:54:44.909 --> 00:54:46.869
This just keeps tricking me into going to the theater.
1101
00:54:47.289 --> 00:54:47.590
Sucker.
1102
00:54:49.710 --> 00:54:55.010
Getting real mad. Oh, and in 2000, I think 2015,
1103
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:58.579
That's when Creep came out. You see that found footage?
1104
00:54:58.599 --> 00:54:58.659
No.
1105
00:54:59.659 --> 00:55:00.800
I like that one.
1106
00:55:01.179 --> 00:55:03.940
I'm usually sick to death of the idea of found footage.
1107
00:55:03.980 --> 00:55:08.989
But I am a defender of found footage in that
1108
00:55:09.050 --> 00:55:14.829
found footage is not inherently, you know, it's not inherently
1109
00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:20.260
limiting and that it's not inherently going to be like
1110
00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:23.559
a Blair Witch or like a Paranormal Activity.
1111
00:55:23.579 --> 00:55:25.820
It just always kind of feels like it is. Right.
1112
00:55:26.219 --> 00:55:30.869
Watch Creep. You should watch it. I liked that movie
1113
00:55:30.949 --> 00:55:34.130
so much. It was probably the favorite, my favorite horror
1114
00:55:34.150 --> 00:55:37.590
movie that I've seen this year. It has a, what's
1115
00:55:37.630 --> 00:55:38.710
his face from The League?
1116
00:55:38.730 --> 00:55:41.230
Okay.
1117
00:55:42.090 --> 00:55:44.409
I don't watch it enough, but I know everybody's kind
1118
00:55:44.429 --> 00:55:45.190
of spitting off of that show.
1119
00:55:45.210 --> 00:55:46.710
I don't watch it, but I just know that that's what,
1120
00:55:46.849 --> 00:55:50.610
he's like famous from that show. But it's kind of
1121
00:55:50.650 --> 00:55:55.300
like a really good portrayal of a psychopath. Like a
1122
00:55:55.340 --> 00:56:03.800
legitimate psychopath. Not like Jason or something. I don't know.
1123
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:07.500
Jason counts as a normal psychopath. He's dead from the get-go.
1124
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:09.739
At least Michael Myers at one point was kind of
1125
00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:13.030
a normal psychopath. Before he was an undead psychopath.
1126
00:56:13.090 --> 00:56:15.570
I know you probably have like 40,000 movies that you're
1127
00:56:15.590 --> 00:56:16.750
supposed to watch at all times.
1128
00:56:17.829 --> 00:56:18.550
I can put it on the list.
1129
00:56:18.889 --> 00:56:19.579
Put it on the list.
1130
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:21.039
I don't go through them that fast anymore.
1131
00:56:21.219 --> 00:56:21.480
Yeah.
1132
00:56:21.500 --> 00:56:26.940
Because I spend too much time editing a show. You're welcome, guys.
1133
00:56:27.260 --> 00:56:30.300
It's not inherently limiting. It's not like, the cops found
1134
00:56:30.380 --> 00:56:31.179
this footage.
1135
00:56:34.570 --> 00:56:36.449
Like I said before, though, it seems so hard to
1136
00:56:36.710 --> 00:56:40.349
do anything other than that, though. Again, just to see
1137
00:56:40.389 --> 00:56:43.469
somebody try to do something successful that's not that, I
1138
00:56:43.510 --> 00:56:45.500
will have to put it on the list. That's something
1139
00:56:45.539 --> 00:56:46.300
I felt I.
1140
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.300
Think people just are like, oh, well, these movies are just, like,
1141
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.219
successful that have done this thing. And so they're like, okay,
1142
00:56:51.260 --> 00:56:52.860
I'll just take this formula and do my own thing
1143
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.460
with it. Instead of, like, I feel like there's so
1144
00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:56.619
many possibilities.
1145
00:56:57.179 --> 00:57:00.159
That's one of the things I found that, and it's not,
1146
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:02.369
I mean, it just comes with the territory. I guess
1147
00:57:02.409 --> 00:57:06.989
it's not their fault as the filmmakers. But it only
1148
00:57:07.010 --> 00:57:09.650
really happened once. But we get towards the end there,
1149
00:57:10.010 --> 00:57:12.889
and they get separated. And then they're running around in
1150
00:57:12.909 --> 00:57:15.139
the woods, and all you see is woods. And like
1151
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.449
for a few minutes, I'm like, who are we on now?
1152
00:57:17.730 --> 00:57:20.769
I was like, is it Ashley? And eventually it was Ashley.
1153
00:57:20.989 --> 00:57:21.269
Yeah.
1154
00:57:21.289 --> 00:57:22.829
Because it was when she went up to get the drone.
1155
00:57:22.849 --> 00:57:24.710
But it was that point where it like, if you're
1156
00:57:24.769 --> 00:57:26.590
paying attention, because I went back to watch, I'm like,
1157
00:57:26.630 --> 00:57:29.829
when's the switch over? And they do say, where's Ashley?
1158
00:57:30.289 --> 00:57:32.829
And then it cuts to her POV and she's yelling
1159
00:57:32.869 --> 00:57:34.550
for them. So I mean, I guess if you watch
1160
00:57:34.570 --> 00:57:36.880
close enough, but I'm like, you can't tell the difference.
1161
00:57:36.949 --> 00:57:38.199
It's still POV looking at trees.
1162
00:57:38.219 --> 00:57:39.239
There's almost too many of them.
1163
00:57:39.260 --> 00:57:41.500
So it's like, it's yeah, it's like, that's the one
1164
00:57:41.539 --> 00:57:43.199
thing that like you have to find a good way
1165
00:57:43.539 --> 00:57:46.179
To hand that baton each time, which again, when you're
1166
00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.699
sitting there with all the characters, you're looking at the
1167
00:57:48.719 --> 00:57:50.820
other people. It makes sense. When all you do is
1168
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.639
look at trees with a flashlight, like you really can't
1169
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:57.340
tell who's POV you're in anymore. And then my point was,
1170
00:57:58.500 --> 00:58:01.619
when did she get the controls to the drone thing?
1171
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:04.900
I'm like, I guess anybody can download that app and
1172
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:06.699
put it on their phone. But like we never saw
1173
00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.420
her run it ever. It's always the other girl.
1174
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:11.780
And it's like, how are they all going to be
1175
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.090
experienced in flying a drone?
1176
00:58:13.110 --> 00:58:15.050
I know. I was like, it would be different if
1177
00:58:15.110 --> 00:58:19.829
it was, what is the other chick's name? I don't remember. Lisa. So, okay,
1178
00:58:19.869 --> 00:58:22.289
Lisa's the one running the drone the whole rest of
1179
00:58:22.329 --> 00:58:24.989
the movie. If she came across it, number one, we
1180
00:58:25.030 --> 00:58:28.199
know she has the app on her phone, and she knows, obviously,
1181
00:58:28.219 --> 00:58:30.159
she'd be like, oh, there it is. Let's try to drift. But, like,
1182
00:58:30.500 --> 00:58:32.639
all of a sudden, it switches to the other POV.
1183
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:35.159
She's doing the things that Lisa did the whole rest
1184
00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:37.139
of the movie. I'm like, it's no wonder it's confusing. Like,
1185
00:58:37.869 --> 00:58:39.929
why is she even trying to do that now? What
1186
00:58:39.949 --> 00:58:42.030
the hell is the drone going to do you anyway? Like,
1187
00:58:42.530 --> 00:58:44.239
you know it's wrecked in a tree and it's not
1188
00:58:44.260 --> 00:58:46.579
going to carry you out of there. So, like, I
1189
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:50.039
don't know. That just seemed like a very weird moment.
1190
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.860
I will give him points, though. I like the creepy hand.
1191
00:58:53.739 --> 00:58:54.500
Creepy hand.
1192
00:58:54.739 --> 00:58:59.280
Again, a very physical, three-dimensional thing that happens in the
1193
00:58:59.300 --> 00:59:03.619
real world that is 100% paranormal because maybe a real
1194
00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:05.599
human could have been waiting at the bottom to drag
1195
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.480
you off But within seconds, it's not the same person.
1196
00:59:08.820 --> 00:59:10.340
And as far as we know, there's only one crazy
1197
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:12.920
person roaming around in the woods at that point. So, like,
1198
00:59:13.619 --> 00:59:15.519
at least one of those things, if not both, is
1199
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:18.780
a weird paranormal force that grabs her with a hand
1200
00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:21.420
that you can see. And then two seconds later, when
1201
00:59:21.460 --> 00:59:23.719
she's at the bottom, drags her body off. I'm like,
1202
00:59:24.460 --> 00:59:27.400
that's a lot of physical paranormal things going on right now.
1203
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:27.559
Mm-hmm.
1204
00:59:28.179 --> 00:59:30.329
But the hand was creepy. Yeah, the hand was creepy.
1205
00:59:30.369 --> 00:59:32.969
The hand was really creepy. And again, if we're going
1206
00:59:33.010 --> 00:59:35.110
back with the fact that they bothered to drag out
1207
00:59:35.190 --> 00:59:38.230
the old river story with the hand pulling the girl
1208
00:59:38.289 --> 00:59:41.380
in the water, it kind of matches up. That's one
1209
00:59:41.400 --> 00:59:43.440
of the few times I'm like, that was a good play.
1210
00:59:43.460 --> 00:59:45.960
You guys set it up and you finished the little
1211
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:51.000
thing there. That's a cool little use of your previous storyline.
1212
00:59:51.059 --> 00:59:53.849
So that was kind of cool. I gave them points
1213
00:59:53.909 --> 00:59:55.329
for that. I still don't know what the hell she
1214
00:59:55.349 --> 00:59:57.090
was doing in a tree trying to get that drone anyway,
1215
00:59:57.170 --> 01:00:02.010
but That moment was pretty damn cool. Yeah.
1216
01:00:02.289 --> 01:00:05.650
And when she was in the tunnel, like kind of.
1217
01:00:05.650 --> 01:00:08.440
The tunnel was a weird addition to the end. Yeah.
1218
01:00:08.500 --> 01:00:09.539
That made me anxious. I'm just.
1219
01:00:10.489 --> 01:00:11.829
Did you play the game of like.
1220
01:00:12.090 --> 01:00:12.630
Oh, hell no.
1221
01:00:14.050 --> 01:00:16.190
Like at least the rest of the house, like I've
1222
01:00:16.230 --> 01:00:18.860
walked around creepy houses probably more than I needed to.
1223
01:00:19.340 --> 01:00:21.679
Back to the dumb things I used to do. Oh, yeah.
1224
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:22.940
Walking in abandoned houses.
1225
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:24.900
I did a lot of stupid stuff. So I'm like
1226
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:26.280
the walking around an abandoned house.
1227
01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:27.219
Okay, sure.
1228
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:29.389
Whatever. Something creepy is going to happen. Probably.
1229
01:00:29.409 --> 01:00:29.690
Yeah.
1230
01:00:29.949 --> 01:00:30.130
Mm-hmm.
1231
01:00:30.610 --> 01:00:33.679
Crawling under the house because even then i'm like then
1232
01:00:33.739 --> 01:00:36.219
i become okay i'm the cliche person in theory going
1233
01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:39.219
oh girl you're gonna get stuck let's back up out
1234
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:41.820
that hole you're gonna get stuck and what'd she do
1235
01:00:42.280 --> 01:00:47.090
she got stuck what'd i tell you so i'm like
1236
01:00:47.230 --> 01:00:50.170
the whole time i'm just like As soon as she started,
1237
01:00:50.190 --> 01:00:52.570
I'm like, oh, no. I mean, what is she going
1238
01:00:52.590 --> 01:00:52.929
to do?
1239
01:00:53.030 --> 01:00:53.630
She's in a pit.
1240
01:00:53.809 --> 01:00:55.769
I guess that, again, that's what I'm like, well, what
1241
01:00:55.789 --> 01:00:58.159
do you do? Just live there until you starve to death?
1242
01:00:58.260 --> 01:00:59.960
I mean, what else are you going to do? Like,
1243
01:01:00.019 --> 01:01:02.400
I guess you have to, but I'm like, I don't
1244
01:01:02.420 --> 01:01:04.639
like that. I don't like that option. I don't like
1245
01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:06.780
crawling down that little root-filled hole.
1246
01:01:06.820 --> 01:01:09.000
I'd probably just sit there. I'd probably be like, all right,
1247
01:01:09.019 --> 01:01:09.739
this is how I die.
1248
01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:12.519
What's his face? He'll come find me. I don't remember.
1249
01:01:12.579 --> 01:01:13.139
Not stuck.
1250
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:16.019
He's not my boyfriend, but he'll probably come look for me. Whatever.
1251
01:01:17.469 --> 01:01:19.829
I like dying when I'm not stuck in a hole.
1252
01:01:20.210 --> 01:01:22.210
Yeah. I was just that. But I mean, that was
1253
01:01:22.250 --> 01:01:25.630
at least creepy intense and a different edition. Again, it's
1254
01:01:25.670 --> 01:01:27.949
like they have to one up the house as we
1255
01:01:27.969 --> 01:01:30.269
get to the end. So then it becomes, okay, we're
1256
01:01:30.349 --> 01:01:34.030
adding a weird, which they even kind of bothered. That
1257
01:01:34.110 --> 01:01:38.239
is that the underground railroad portion of it? Like, did
1258
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:41.469
they not say that at one point? Like, I feel
1259
01:01:41.489 --> 01:01:43.699
like in some of their yammering at the beginning, they
1260
01:01:43.739 --> 01:01:46.739
said something about it having ties to the Underground Railroad.
1261
01:01:46.780 --> 01:01:47.159
Yeah.
1262
01:01:47.179 --> 01:01:50.639
And I'm like, if there's a tunnel later, I'm gonna,
1263
01:01:50.659 --> 01:01:52.360
I don't know about this.
1264
01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:53.260
But.
1265
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:54.980
It's not a literal thing.
1266
01:01:55.300 --> 01:01:57.510
Underground Railroad, there's not like underground tunnels.
1267
01:01:57.530 --> 01:01:59.210
I mean, if the train would have showed up, then
1268
01:01:59.230 --> 01:02:01.969
it really would have been impressive. Woo, woo, ghost train.
1269
01:02:02.889 --> 01:02:08.550
Taking you to the north. Let's go. But if something
1270
01:02:08.570 --> 01:02:11.400
like we had that, that by the finale they sort
1271
01:02:11.420 --> 01:02:13.619
of one-upped it like okay we've got the tunnels added
1272
01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:16.630
in then we have the okay we've already done the
1273
01:02:16.670 --> 01:02:20.329
cellar so the story was mixed up sometimes they tell
1274
01:02:20.369 --> 01:02:22.590
it it's the cellar sometimes it's the attic so now
1275
01:02:22.630 --> 01:02:24.409
we end up in the attic in the end instead
1276
01:02:24.449 --> 01:02:27.760
of the cellar as it was the first time so
1277
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.219
we changed that up minorly the.
1278
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.159
Only other thing that still stuck in a corner.
1279
01:02:32.019 --> 01:02:34.099
Still stuck in a corner but then the only then
1280
01:02:34.139 --> 01:02:36.639
the one-up game becomes okay if you don't look at
1281
01:02:36.659 --> 01:02:39.869
her she can't kill you right And the camera doesn't count.
1282
01:02:40.050 --> 01:02:42.389
You have to like physically look at her for her
1283
01:02:42.429 --> 01:02:44.889
to kill you. So then we get the using the
1284
01:02:44.929 --> 01:02:47.599
viewfinder to try to escape and find your way out game.
1285
01:02:47.619 --> 01:02:48.159
Yeah.
1286
01:02:48.420 --> 01:02:49.420
Which doesn't go so well.
1287
01:02:49.780 --> 01:02:50.260
Spoilers.
1288
01:02:51.300 --> 01:02:53.340
But yeah, I mean, I guess that again, I was like,
1289
01:02:53.380 --> 01:02:54.880
I guess this is one up in it a little
1290
01:02:54.940 --> 01:02:57.619
and adding an aspect that wasn't there last time. But
1291
01:02:57.659 --> 01:03:00.039
I feel like it's kind of pointless because we know
1292
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:01.480
she's still going to turn around.
1293
01:03:01.659 --> 01:03:01.960
Yeah.
1294
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:03.929
I'm like, this isn't she's not going to get out
1295
01:03:03.969 --> 01:03:05.530
and go home and it's going to be a happy ending.
1296
01:03:05.570 --> 01:03:05.750
Like.
1297
01:03:06.389 --> 01:03:08.110
And that became the thing. I'm like, did they fall
1298
01:03:08.150 --> 01:03:11.889
into that same trap? Much like fighting a battle back
1299
01:03:11.929 --> 01:03:13.719
on the Death Star again. I'm like, are we just
1300
01:03:13.739 --> 01:03:15.260
going to watch the camera fall down at the end
1301
01:03:15.300 --> 01:03:18.800
in this house? And what happens? I'm like, is it
1302
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.059
ridiculous that that's going to happen every time? Or is
1303
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.280
it ridiculous to think it's not going to happen every
1304
01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.820
time because it's a Blair Witch movie? So shouldn't it
1305
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.219
happen every time? Otherwise, wouldn't we not end up at
1306
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.480
the point in the beginning to get us to the end?
1307
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:33.619
So I don't know. It becomes a vicious circle.
1308
01:03:34.860 --> 01:03:36.340
I really liked the time distortion.
1309
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.989
That was kind of my big thing that I liked
1310
01:03:40.010 --> 01:03:40.659
in the middle there.
1311
01:03:40.780 --> 01:03:42.809
Yeah. When they walked out of the woods and they
1312
01:03:42.829 --> 01:03:44.889
were like, I spent five days.
1313
01:03:44.909 --> 01:03:48.309
I was like, nice. But they started, like at the beginning,
1314
01:03:48.369 --> 01:03:50.909
it's just like, wait, we slept till two o'clock. And
1315
01:03:50.929 --> 01:03:54.250
I'm like, so suddenly, which also has a little, and
1316
01:03:54.269 --> 01:03:57.230
we haven't mentioned this really at any point. I said
1317
01:03:57.250 --> 01:04:01.789
there were three. I remember almost nothing about Blair Witch 2,
1318
01:04:01.789 --> 01:04:06.179
colon Book of Shadows. But the only thing that was
1319
01:04:06.219 --> 01:04:08.780
like the one time, other than that, it seems pretty
1320
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.530
cheesy and a bad normal horror movie. But like the
1321
01:04:12.739 --> 01:04:14.650
one thing that I thought was cool and I'm not
1322
01:04:15.150 --> 01:04:17.610
really spoiling it again. It's the only reason to watch
1323
01:04:17.650 --> 01:04:20.210
is this cool moment. Pretty early in on the movie,
1324
01:04:20.250 --> 01:04:22.329
they get to this like cabin or whatever, and they're
1325
01:04:22.349 --> 01:04:24.050
all going to hang out there and try to Blair
1326
01:04:24.070 --> 01:04:25.090
Witch it up or whatever they're doing.
1327
01:04:25.110 --> 01:04:25.199
Yeah.
1328
01:04:25.929 --> 01:04:28.269
And they have, they once again have a camera. It's not,
1329
01:04:28.489 --> 01:04:30.190
they get away from the first person. So it's not
1330
01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:32.159
at all like the original Blair Witch anyway. So it's
1331
01:04:32.340 --> 01:04:33.920
just sort of normal. But one of them has a
1332
01:04:33.940 --> 01:04:36.119
camera and they set up this camera to try to
1333
01:04:36.139 --> 01:04:38.900
like figure out what's going on. And they get up
1334
01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:41.679
the next day and they're like, I guess nothing happened
1335
01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:43.880
last night. And then they're like, wait, what, what about this?
1336
01:04:43.900 --> 01:04:45.699
And they have all these things that happen. They're like,
1337
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:48.110
what the hell? And then they go back and look
1338
01:04:48.130 --> 01:04:51.570
at the footage and they see themselves doing things that
1339
01:04:51.610 --> 01:04:54.090
they have no memory of. And I'm like, oh, that's creepy.
1340
01:04:54.210 --> 01:04:56.949
I'm like, that's a creepy moment when you're watching yourself
1341
01:04:57.469 --> 01:05:00.190
on camera do something that you don't remember doing. I'm like,
1342
01:05:00.250 --> 01:05:03.349
that's kind of a cool, creepy moment. The only thing
1343
01:05:03.409 --> 01:05:06.309
I really remember finding interesting in that whole second movie.
1344
01:05:06.949 --> 01:05:08.590
So then I'm like, there's a little touch of that,
1345
01:05:08.650 --> 01:05:10.909
of like, wait, how did we all just happen to
1346
01:05:11.650 --> 01:05:14.070
wake up at two in the afternoon and not remember
1347
01:05:14.090 --> 01:05:17.110
what's going on? I'm like, okay, that's, maybe it just
1348
01:05:17.150 --> 01:05:19.070
knocked them out or maybe they were off doing shit.
1349
01:05:19.590 --> 01:05:21.590
I'm like, we don't really know. But I'm like, I
1350
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.039
like that aspect of it. I also like the fact
1351
01:05:25.059 --> 01:05:27.340
that they kind of just started sneaking that stuff in
1352
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:31.079
that it's like there's things like time sort of missing
1353
01:05:31.139 --> 01:05:34.960
where they're like, okay, now it's been like so long.
1354
01:05:35.300 --> 01:05:37.199
Like before we even get to the five days, like
1355
01:05:37.300 --> 01:05:40.050
even then it's like they wake up that morning and
1356
01:05:40.070 --> 01:05:42.269
it's like, well, it's supposed to be seven o'clock and
1357
01:05:42.469 --> 01:05:46.130
the sun's not up. So again, it's like the woods
1358
01:05:46.190 --> 01:05:48.989
themselves are messing with time and space at this point.
1359
01:05:49.010 --> 01:05:51.590
It's like so much so that the fact that the
1360
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:55.789
sun never comes up again. So that was my take
1361
01:05:55.849 --> 01:05:58.230
on that middle part there is like, I kind of
1362
01:05:58.269 --> 01:06:00.570
like that. And I'm like, this is the only way
1363
01:06:00.610 --> 01:06:03.530
I can almost see them being able to do something
1364
01:06:03.610 --> 01:06:05.280
else with Blair Witch as a whole.
1365
01:06:05.409 --> 01:06:05.699
Right.
1366
01:06:06.159 --> 01:06:07.519
Is like, I feel like.
1367
01:06:15.590 --> 01:06:18.409
Feel like that middle section like that's the one thing
1368
01:06:18.449 --> 01:06:19.889
that I'm like I kind of like what's going on
1369
01:06:19.909 --> 01:06:22.449
right now is like that part in the woods like
1370
01:06:22.489 --> 01:06:24.320
before we get to the house when when it starts
1371
01:06:24.360 --> 01:06:27.420
going crazy and a little before that I'm like we're
1372
01:06:27.460 --> 01:06:30.099
kind of in a hell dimension yeah I mean they
1373
01:06:30.119 --> 01:06:33.219
get to the point where like nothing makes sense anymore
1374
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:36.360
so the fact that like time slipping away and these
1375
01:06:36.380 --> 01:06:38.619
people have been lost for five days where it's been
1376
01:06:38.659 --> 01:06:40.559
a half a day for these guys so it's like
1377
01:06:41.019 --> 01:06:43.579
time and space aren't making sense the sun won't come
1378
01:06:43.659 --> 01:06:46.019
up anymore and Or even the fact that, once again,
1379
01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:49.619
back to my point earlier, they have GPS. There's no
1380
01:06:49.860 --> 01:06:52.900
logical reason that they should get lost, and yet it's
1381
01:06:52.980 --> 01:06:57.500
like nothing functions. Like, GPS, the most functional way of
1382
01:06:57.539 --> 01:07:00.369
getting around in the world, is completely useless once you
1383
01:07:00.409 --> 01:07:03.130
go in these woods. So I'm like, everything that we've
1384
01:07:03.170 --> 01:07:05.449
pieced together that should make, even like the fact that
1385
01:07:05.489 --> 01:07:07.829
the drone goes up and can't find a house, or
1386
01:07:07.869 --> 01:07:10.010
a road, or a river, or like, it goes up
1387
01:07:10.050 --> 01:07:13.159
and it's just woods everywhere. And I'm like, that part's
1388
01:07:13.179 --> 01:07:15.920
kind of cool like if we got to another story
1389
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:19.219
that was just like the woods themselves are this like
1390
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:23.869
hell dimension that like once you're in there nothing makes
1391
01:07:23.889 --> 01:07:25.949
sense anymore like you're again i.
1392
01:07:25.949 --> 01:07:27.849
Guess the bermuda triangle we start heading down.
1393
01:07:27.750 --> 01:07:30.610
The freddy road like your nightmares start coming true like
1394
01:07:30.650 --> 01:07:33.809
it's just like but like at least that offers something
1395
01:07:33.989 --> 01:07:36.110
other than the house at the end you know or
1396
01:07:36.170 --> 01:07:39.010
like exactly the same found footy g stuff it's just
1397
01:07:39.050 --> 01:07:42.489
the fact that everything once you go in like almost
1398
01:07:42.530 --> 01:07:44.360
more of an evil dead thing of like the woods
1399
01:07:44.449 --> 01:07:47.219
themselves are an entity and it's out to get you
1400
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:49.920
and rules don't apply once you're in there and you're
1401
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:53.260
screwed and there's no escape like that's kind of awesome
1402
01:07:53.300 --> 01:07:56.139
really like that was my favorite part of that middle
1403
01:07:56.179 --> 01:07:59.050
section there is just the fact that definitely it was
1404
01:07:59.110 --> 01:08:02.070
its own weird the woods was its own weird thing
1405
01:08:02.630 --> 01:08:05.289
that defied the laws of time and space and the
1406
01:08:05.329 --> 01:08:07.949
woods and the witch was in control yeah.
1407
01:08:08.130 --> 01:08:10.010
Tree fell on peter woods was like nope.
1408
01:08:12.570 --> 01:08:15.230
See, again, that would almost make sense. At that point,
1409
01:08:15.250 --> 01:08:18.529
it's still a physical, real, real thing that took him out.
1410
01:08:18.569 --> 01:08:20.869
We never saw what it was. It might have been
1411
01:08:20.909 --> 01:08:23.689
that lightning from earlier that knocked down trees that sort
1412
01:08:23.729 --> 01:08:26.729
of was back. Was that the same tree? I kind
1413
01:08:26.770 --> 01:08:29.109
of assumed, again, I saw that the second time around.
1414
01:08:29.170 --> 01:08:32.149
I'm like, so the tree that they looked at earlier,
1415
01:08:32.270 --> 01:08:36.289
like first day, was outside of the house again? So
1416
01:08:36.329 --> 01:08:38.909
they once again looped back around and And that was
1417
01:08:38.949 --> 01:08:41.489
my other like hell dimension thing is like this house
1418
01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.239
isn't there except when it needs to be there. Like
1419
01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:46.979
it's not on any map. It's in no clearing. Like
1420
01:08:47.020 --> 01:08:50.739
nobody's ever like them searching for years before that. Nobody's
1421
01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:53.100
ever come across that house again until it's time for
1422
01:08:53.149 --> 01:08:54.449
that house to show up.
1423
01:08:54.569 --> 01:08:56.670
Until they get to that next dimension.
1424
01:08:56.689 --> 01:09:00.340
Until it's, yeah, the hell dimension. That hell mouth. opens
1425
01:09:00.489 --> 01:09:01.369
up and the house shows up.
1426
01:09:01.380 --> 01:09:03.359
What's that in Stranger Things? The underneath?
1427
01:09:04.060 --> 01:09:04.520
Underneath.
1428
01:09:05.060 --> 01:09:10.380
It's just Sunnydale all over again. So, yeah, I don't know. Again,
1429
01:09:10.420 --> 01:09:13.819
there's so much thrown in there that's cool along the way.
1430
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.859
It just doesn't quite add up to being a really
1431
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:22.859
good movie. It's just... cool ideas and cool moments. Again,
1432
01:09:22.909 --> 01:09:25.270
cool enough that I still put in the, it's an
1433
01:09:25.310 --> 01:09:26.289
okay horror movie.
1434
01:09:27.350 --> 01:09:31.090
Yeah, I feel like I would have pushed it more
1435
01:09:31.189 --> 01:09:35.229
towards being good rather than being a big disappointment if
1436
01:09:35.329 --> 01:09:39.789
they had taken longer and been, you know, more of
1437
01:09:39.850 --> 01:09:43.210
like the just twig snapping and just like tiny things happening.
1438
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.180
Instead of it just being like little tiny, tiny, tiny thing.
1439
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:48.939
And then the rest of the movie is like huge
1440
01:09:49.020 --> 01:09:52.010
stuff happening and you see it all and there is
1441
01:09:52.029 --> 01:09:55.390
just no mystery anymore. I kind of, I need that.
1442
01:09:55.470 --> 01:09:58.789
I need that like, you know, the believability of it
1443
01:09:59.229 --> 01:10:02.970
to be afraid. I need it to be something that
1444
01:10:02.989 --> 01:10:05.590
I'm like, that could happen to me in a found
1445
01:10:05.609 --> 01:10:06.670
footage movie for me to.
1446
01:10:06.689 --> 01:10:10.149
I think that would be a better movie. Yeah. Or
1447
01:10:10.189 --> 01:10:13.220
I could almost see going the entire opposite direction and
1448
01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:16.529
be like, screw it, monsters. Yeah, screw it, monsters.
1449
01:10:16.689 --> 01:10:17.590
That'd be fine too.
1450
01:10:17.829 --> 01:10:20.649
Once that second half kicks in, it's just like them
1451
01:10:21.310 --> 01:10:23.750
fighting with, like again, we just kind of see glimpses
1452
01:10:23.810 --> 01:10:25.560
of them around the corners and they run and hide.
1453
01:10:25.850 --> 01:10:28.159
So I'm like, it's just enough to break that like
1454
01:10:28.539 --> 01:10:30.579
spell of like, is it real? Is it not real?
1455
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.060
But at the same time, we don't really get any
1456
01:10:33.119 --> 01:10:35.479
real interaction with them. They just sort of run away
1457
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:37.380
and then they're gone. Like every time they think they
1458
01:10:37.420 --> 01:10:39.579
see somebody, they turn around and that person's not there.
1459
01:10:39.949 --> 01:10:42.569
Or the monster hides behind something or they close the door.
1460
01:10:42.609 --> 01:10:45.409
And we never really get any interaction with any of them.
1461
01:10:45.909 --> 01:10:48.569
So I would almost like full on just, again, if
1462
01:10:48.590 --> 01:10:50.369
you're going to make it Evil Dead, just make them
1463
01:10:50.409 --> 01:10:53.109
punching monsters in the face and chainsaw and shit. And
1464
01:10:53.189 --> 01:10:55.060
I'm like, just go ahead and make it silly and
1465
01:10:55.100 --> 01:10:57.039
over the top if we're going to get to the
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01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.199
creatures running around chasing them the whole time. Because I
1467
01:11:00.220 --> 01:11:02.739
could kind of see that being a much more entertaining
1468
01:11:02.819 --> 01:11:06.319
movie if it became something like that. But it still
1469
01:11:06.500 --> 01:11:09.720
probably wouldn't be good at that point. But yeah. That's
1470
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:10.359
a fine line.
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01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:11.039
Right.
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01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:16.819
So do you, again, it throws off the theory part
1473
01:11:16.890 --> 01:11:20.210
of it that came into play in the original Blair
1474
01:11:20.250 --> 01:11:24.130
Witch Project. The fact that, again, before you could come
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01:11:24.189 --> 01:11:26.930
up with, well, what do you think really happened game?
1476
01:11:27.529 --> 01:11:29.590
Because now, especially by the end when we see that
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01:11:29.670 --> 01:11:33.229
Lane is still around and is still alive, that's kind
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01:11:33.250 --> 01:11:35.789
of a cool moment. Again, once we talk about time
1479
01:11:35.890 --> 01:11:38.390
slippage and it being a hell dimension, The fact that
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01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:41.729
it's been like years, you assume. Like when he sees
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01:11:41.750 --> 01:11:43.489
her again at the very end, he's like, you're just
1482
01:11:43.529 --> 01:11:46.210
like I remember you. Like it's been years since he
1483
01:11:46.229 --> 01:11:48.829
saw her. And it's been a day for her. So again,
1484
01:11:49.310 --> 01:11:50.890
that's kind of a cool moment.
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01:11:50.909 --> 01:11:55.390
Yeah, how they make the end to be the YouTube
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01:11:55.409 --> 01:11:58.170
video in the beginning. Like they take all the same shots.
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01:11:58.829 --> 01:12:03.829
So you're like, oh, this hell dimension. The 17 years is.
1488
01:12:04.689 --> 01:12:07.649
It is its own little... Because then I'm like, okay, so...
1489
01:12:08.170 --> 01:12:10.189
They sort of set it up at the beginning, like
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01:12:10.250 --> 01:12:13.670
Lane faked all of that anyway, because she's like, so
1491
01:12:13.949 --> 01:12:16.310
just so happens that the tapes you found are the
1492
01:12:16.449 --> 01:12:18.670
really hard to find tapes that are also in your
1493
01:12:18.689 --> 01:12:21.569
camera that you're carrying around. So like they kind of
1494
01:12:21.590 --> 01:12:24.130
planted that like, OK, well, odds are he made all
1495
01:12:24.149 --> 01:12:26.430
this up just to get somebody out here. We know
1496
01:12:26.489 --> 01:12:28.810
that that was an interesting aspect, too, is the first one.
1497
01:12:28.829 --> 01:12:31.850
We didn't have anybody knowingly messing with them. That was
1498
01:12:31.890 --> 01:12:35.029
a human like we had weird stuff happening. We didn't know,
1499
01:12:35.060 --> 01:12:37.640
you know what it was or if it was supernatural.
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01:12:38.050 --> 01:12:40.149
But this one like midway and we're like, oh yeah,
1501
01:12:40.170 --> 01:12:42.130
these guys are screwing with you now. So we could
1502
01:12:42.149 --> 01:12:44.569
almost have that too. Like where we could have that
1503
01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:48.659
becoming a way more traditional 80s horror movie of like
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01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:51.000
just weirdos lure them out in the woods and start
1505
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:53.920
messing with them and like tormenting them. And then eventually
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01:12:53.939 --> 01:12:56.270
they have to like kill the bad guys. That's a
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01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:59.109
way more standard traditional horror movie that we could have
1508
01:12:59.149 --> 01:13:00.090
gotten and didn't.
1509
01:13:01.029 --> 01:13:03.909
Well, it's like they like were like offering them up
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01:13:03.949 --> 01:13:04.890
to the witch or whatever.
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01:13:05.470 --> 01:13:07.939
That would almost be more interesting if they actually were.
1512
01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:09.439
But then it didn't work.
1513
01:13:09.640 --> 01:13:11.960
I don't feel like we got that. They still seem
1514
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:15.800
like they were almost innocent of everything other than hanging those.
1515
01:13:15.819 --> 01:13:17.180
They were just trying to get somebody to come out
1516
01:13:17.220 --> 01:13:20.060
there because they were genuinely curious about it and they
1517
01:13:20.100 --> 01:13:22.560
wanted to figure out the mystery like they did. They
1518
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:25.520
really didn't seem like bad people otherwise. They did that
1519
01:13:25.619 --> 01:13:27.800
one thing and then Lane looks like a creep the
1520
01:13:27.819 --> 01:13:30.359
whole time. So from the beginning, you're like, oh, screw
1521
01:13:30.380 --> 01:13:30.779
that guy.
1522
01:13:30.899 --> 01:13:31.020
Mm-hmm.
1523
01:13:31.470 --> 01:13:34.229
With his freaking rebel flag hanging on the wall. Like,
1524
01:13:34.289 --> 01:13:36.130
all right, I already don't like this bastard and he
1525
01:13:36.170 --> 01:13:39.310
looks creepy. At least she was like, all right, like
1526
01:13:39.350 --> 01:13:41.970
she might've been okay in a different scenario, but like
1527
01:13:42.010 --> 01:13:44.670
Lane always looked creepy. So by the end, like when
1528
01:13:44.689 --> 01:13:47.670
we work him back into the scenario, it's like, that's
1529
01:13:47.689 --> 01:13:49.890
what I'm saying. Do we work him into all of
1530
01:13:49.949 --> 01:13:52.550
the goings on or has he just been lost the
1531
01:13:52.569 --> 01:13:55.770
whole time missing in time? And then he comes back
1532
01:13:55.810 --> 01:13:58.350
in at the end and like his servant to the
1533
01:13:58.369 --> 01:14:00.680
witch or has he been, that's what I'm saying earlier
1534
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.090
when I was like, when Ashley falls out of the
1535
01:14:05.149 --> 01:14:08.510
tree and gets drug off, Lane could be the one
1536
01:14:08.550 --> 01:14:11.329
dragging her off. Like it is physically picked up and
1537
01:14:11.369 --> 01:14:13.930
drug away, much like a human would. The hand seems
1538
01:14:13.949 --> 01:14:18.600
very supernatural. That seems unlikely to be Lane. But from
1539
01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:20.619
off screen, we just see somebody pick up her legs
1540
01:14:20.659 --> 01:14:22.859
and drag her out of the frame. That could very
1541
01:14:22.899 --> 01:14:25.800
easily be Lane. So it's like, is the witch, in quotes,
1542
01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:28.829
using Lane the whole time? Because he keeps saying by
1543
01:14:28.869 --> 01:14:30.350
the end, it's like, you have to do what she says.
1544
01:14:30.739 --> 01:14:33.119
The same thing that the creepy old serial killer in
1545
01:14:33.140 --> 01:14:35.300
the first movie, like he just did what the witch said.
1546
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:39.020
Like he wasn't the evil entity himself. The entity was there.
1547
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:41.420
He was just following its instructions because you have to
1548
01:14:41.460 --> 01:14:45.159
do what she says. So how much along the way
1549
01:14:45.310 --> 01:14:50.029
was she using Lane to physically do things? Or was
1550
01:14:50.069 --> 01:14:51.729
he just lost in time and she's got all these
1551
01:14:51.750 --> 01:14:52.689
other monsters in?
1552
01:14:52.930 --> 01:14:53.189
Yeah.
1553
01:14:53.430 --> 01:14:56.510
What were, again, it's supposed to be other victims. Like
1554
01:14:56.550 --> 01:14:59.439
the weird thing with the long arms thing. wasn't the
1555
01:14:59.479 --> 01:15:02.779
witch supposedly i think even the writer said that that
1556
01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.199
was one of the previous victims is that weird thing now.
1557
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:10.270
What's her face uh not heather i don't know.
1558
01:15:10.350 --> 01:15:11.789
I kept waiting i was like are we actually gonna
1559
01:15:11.810 --> 01:15:12.710
get a cameo from.
1560
01:15:12.630 --> 01:15:14.310
Him like the one with the the crap on.
1561
01:15:14.289 --> 01:15:17.149
Her foot oh the ashley ashley yeah.
1562
01:15:16.909 --> 01:15:19.180
Ashley So like a little thing in her foot, like
1563
01:15:19.220 --> 01:15:20.460
she's slowly becoming.
1564
01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:23.100
That was a weird little add on. Again, I feel
1565
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:26.199
like that's a more recent horror movies that like, it's
1566
01:15:26.380 --> 01:15:28.399
almost a body horror at that point when we've got
1567
01:15:28.430 --> 01:15:31.869
this thing moving around inside of her. Then later is
1568
01:15:31.930 --> 01:15:33.390
sort of a real thing. I thought it was just
1569
01:15:33.430 --> 01:15:36.409
weird that like her body was like doing its own
1570
01:15:36.430 --> 01:15:38.869
weird thing unbeknownst to her. Like that was kind of
1571
01:15:38.890 --> 01:15:41.090
a little creepier at the beginning. Later, I guess we're
1572
01:15:41.109 --> 01:15:43.600
supposed to think it's that thing that she yanked out
1573
01:15:43.609 --> 01:15:44.539
of herself, but.
1574
01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:45.619
I don't know.
1575
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:47.859
It could be all of the above. It's just creepy
1576
01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:51.060
across the board. But yeah, I don't know. It could be, again,
1577
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:53.800
then we're entering more into she's becoming a deadite. So
1578
01:15:53.859 --> 01:15:57.699
we're entering into a different horror movie there. But again,
1579
01:15:57.760 --> 01:15:59.880
that could be more of an interesting way to take
1580
01:15:59.979 --> 01:16:03.359
this franchise is get away from redoing the found footage
1581
01:16:03.420 --> 01:16:05.319
over and over again. Get away from the house at
1582
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:08.340
the end scenario and just be like, the woods are evil.
1583
01:16:08.579 --> 01:16:12.369
The woods are its own hell dimension. And weird stuff's
1584
01:16:12.409 --> 01:16:14.909
going to happen once these weirdos go searching for somebody
1585
01:16:14.949 --> 01:16:17.529
out in the woods. And that seems like it's got
1586
01:16:17.550 --> 01:16:20.310
a little more potential. Again, it's kind of hacky at
1587
01:16:20.350 --> 01:16:23.079
this point, but it doesn't mean you can't make an
1588
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:27.680
effective horror movie out of it. We did, as a
1589
01:16:27.739 --> 01:16:31.760
nice little throwback, I think, once again to the original,
1590
01:16:32.819 --> 01:16:35.359
the fact that even in that last, in the attic,
1591
01:16:35.579 --> 01:16:37.409
in that very last scene, we get a little of,
1592
01:16:37.819 --> 01:16:39.680
I'm so sorry. This is all my fault. I'm like,
1593
01:16:39.939 --> 01:16:43.069
we're kind of doing our new reboot version of the
1594
01:16:43.109 --> 01:16:48.229
Heather camera scene. And he's apologizing and blaming himself. And,
1595
01:16:48.270 --> 01:16:52.729
you know, I didn't apologize to Joss's parents or anything,
1596
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.140
but it was pretty damn close. So much so it
1597
01:16:55.180 --> 01:16:57.420
was funny that then like as soon as he finished
1598
01:16:57.460 --> 01:17:00.960
that little segment, he goes, Heather, like he actually addressed
1599
01:17:01.060 --> 01:17:03.239
her as though she was there. Which that was the point.
1600
01:17:03.260 --> 01:17:04.739
I was like, are we going to get like a cameo?
1601
01:17:04.779 --> 01:17:07.279
Are they going to drag Heather back in and do
1602
01:17:07.300 --> 01:17:08.920
like a weird witch makeup? And we actually get to
1603
01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:11.319
see her as like she is actually caught in the
1604
01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.640
time-space continuum that is the woods and the house and
1605
01:17:14.659 --> 01:17:18.630
all of that. But no, we never. There is a weird, again,
1606
01:17:18.710 --> 01:17:20.949
I stopped to see what that was that he sees.
1607
01:17:21.609 --> 01:17:24.409
It does kind of look like an old woman, but
1608
01:17:25.130 --> 01:17:27.069
didn't look enough that you could even say that it
1609
01:17:27.149 --> 01:17:29.029
was them trying to do a version of Heather. It's
1610
01:17:29.090 --> 01:17:32.050
just sort of a creepy figure and that's it. Mm-hmm.
1611
01:17:33.180 --> 01:17:35.140
But yeah, I thought that was kind of funny that
1612
01:17:35.180 --> 01:17:37.520
we got a little, once again, a little touch of
1613
01:17:38.220 --> 01:17:41.560
the most famous scene in that whole movie of, I'm sorry,
1614
01:17:41.659 --> 01:17:44.460
it's all my fault. So he does his version of
1615
01:17:44.500 --> 01:17:45.180
that by the end.
1616
01:17:47.420 --> 01:17:47.779
That's it.
1617
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:50.810
So, you loved it.
1618
01:17:51.350 --> 01:17:55.029
You loved it enough to pay $ 2 a month. You
1619
01:17:55.069 --> 01:17:56.590
just paid $ 2 for this episode.
1620
01:17:56.630 --> 01:18:01.029
That's what I'm thinking. Just to hear this is worth
1621
01:18:01.109 --> 01:18:06.500
the investment. So, Once again, kick in, keep the show rolling. Otherwise,
1622
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:07.979
anything to pass along to these peoples?
1623
01:18:08.579 --> 01:18:08.800
No.
1624
01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:13.439
We're planning future episodes. Several of which you may be
1625
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:17.119
involved in. And I don't know that anybody wants the
1626
01:18:17.229 --> 01:18:20.850
Oscar show, but we're still attempting to put together the
1627
01:18:20.930 --> 01:18:28.090
O'Foilers award ceremony. If you're interested, yeah, I threw this
1628
01:18:28.149 --> 01:18:30.649
out last year and hardly anyone got a hold of me,
1629
01:18:30.729 --> 01:18:33.649
but I'm I'm leaving it up to the people who
1630
01:18:33.689 --> 01:18:36.579
want to get involved to choose who these winners are.
1631
01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:38.579
So I've got a handful of people that have been
1632
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:41.520
on board in the past. But if that wasn't you
1633
01:18:41.619 --> 01:18:45.350
in last year or the year before or whatever, email
1634
01:18:45.369 --> 01:18:49.310
in email producer at moviemeltdown.com and let me know that
1635
01:18:49.329 --> 01:18:50.770
you want to get in on this. And you can
1636
01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:53.680
actually get involved. You can vote. You can pick the
1637
01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:57.560
winners for the upcoming foilers. So you can decide what
1638
01:18:57.600 --> 01:18:59.739
the best movies and actors were last year.
1639
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:00.960
Very prestigious.
1640
01:19:01.779 --> 01:19:04.539
Academy Awards don't let you do anything. Foilers, on the
1641
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:07.640
other hand, we go to you. We go to the
1642
01:19:07.699 --> 01:19:10.310
important people in the world. the Movie Meltdown listeners.
1643
01:19:10.550 --> 01:19:12.069
And you can bake tater tots on it.
1644
01:19:12.710 --> 01:19:15.210
You can join in with us. You can get some
1645
01:19:15.250 --> 01:19:19.439
weenies and wrap them in crescent rolls and make your
1646
01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:25.640
own little overdone pork festival. I can't wait. You just wait.
1647
01:19:25.979 --> 01:19:31.819
It's going to be ridiculous once again. So that having
1648
01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:35.600
been said, mark your calendars. Oscars are right around the
1649
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:39.170
corner and so are the foils. Otherwise, that about does it.
1650
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:44.170
We will return next time. Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
1651
01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:07.750
So honey, who's new in town?
1652
01:20:07.829 --> 01:20:12.029
You better watch out, or she'll put you down.
1653
01:20:12.109 --> 01:20:21.140
Cause she's a crazy chick. Baby, she's a witch.
1654
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:26.920
She got long black hair and a big black car.
1655
01:20:28.220 --> 01:20:32.289
I know what you're thinking, but you won't get far.
1656
01:20:32.850 --> 01:20:36.909
She's wise to your tricks because she's a witch.
1657
01:20:37.010 --> 01:20:38.270
Well, she walks.
1658
01:20:38.229 --> 01:20:41.050
Around late at night.
1659
01:20:41.170 --> 01:20:58.729
Most other people are sleeping. Now you know the score
1660
01:20:59.149 --> 01:21:05.239
Because I set you straight So you better be careful
1661
01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:06.720
Before it's.
1662
01:21:06.689 --> 01:21:09.970
Too late She's gonna.
1663
01:21:09.369 --> 01:21:10.390
Do you in.
1664
01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:26.630
Attack Grendel's family fun house that's what it is
1665
01:22:26.710 --> 01:22:29.510
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1666
01:22:29.569 --> 01:22:32.850
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1667
01:22:32.869 --> 01:22:35.640
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1668
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