WEBVTT
1
00:00:02.060 --> 00:00:05.809
Ladies and gentlemen, Cameron Whitcomb sits to chat with Bennett
2
00:00:06.309 --> 00:00:09.849
on Most Requested Live Worldwide with Romeo.
3
00:00:09.869 --> 00:00:12.810
What's going on? Cameron, good to see you, man.
4
00:00:14.050 --> 00:00:14.720
Yeah, good to see you.
5
00:00:15.449 --> 00:00:16.390
Appreciate the time.
6
00:00:16.449 --> 00:00:18.550
I was so excited to hop on this chat with
7
00:00:18.570 --> 00:00:21.530
you because we are just obsessed with your music, especially
8
00:00:21.589 --> 00:00:22.309
Kingdom of Fear.
9
00:00:22.329 --> 00:00:24.050
It sounds so good on the air. First of all,
10
00:00:24.109 --> 00:00:25.250
congrats on life.
11
00:00:27.769 --> 00:00:29.850
Yeah, thank you so much, man. Appreciate you saying that.
12
00:00:30.870 --> 00:00:31.230
Yeah, dude.
13
00:00:31.550 --> 00:00:32.469
Sounds so good on the air.
14
00:00:32.549 --> 00:00:35.509
And then when you take a deep dive into your music, man,
15
00:00:35.929 --> 00:00:37.890
like my boss and I were just like trying to
16
00:00:37.969 --> 00:00:40.890
nail down our top five Cameron Whitcomb songs from.
17
00:00:40.929 --> 00:00:42.929
You know, The Hard Way, We Love the Album, to
18
00:00:42.950 --> 00:00:44.070
the Deepwater EP.
19
00:00:44.210 --> 00:00:48.649
I mean, dude, once you kind of have that entryway,
20
00:00:48.710 --> 00:00:49.909
like I think a lot of people are listening to
21
00:00:49.969 --> 00:00:51.700
Kingdom of Fear and they're discovering you.
22
00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.159
And then like you started doing the deep dive. You're like, wow,
23
00:00:54.740 --> 00:00:57.740
this guy's got some songs. Like, it's crazy.
24
00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.369
And yeah. I mean, I kind of want to go
25
00:01:00.450 --> 00:01:02.270
from the start, if you don't mind. There's a lot
26
00:01:02.299 --> 00:01:04.560
I want to talk to you about. But you started
27
00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:09.379
doing what covers and doing karaoke like when you were 17.
28
00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.379
That's how this all kind of came to be.
29
00:01:12.340 --> 00:01:13.180
Yeah, pretty well.
30
00:01:13.219 --> 00:01:15.930
Yeah, I was I was like, you know, I started
31
00:01:15.950 --> 00:01:18.349
listening to Tyler Childers and I started doing like Tyler
32
00:01:18.370 --> 00:01:22.269
Childers covers like on my on my couch, all drunken
33
00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:26.159
shit and and basically posting them and post them on Reddit.
34
00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:29.239
And that's how the whole American Idol thing came about.
35
00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.480
After American Idol, you know, I got kicked off and
36
00:01:32.500 --> 00:01:34.519
then I just like, I had to go learn how
37
00:01:34.540 --> 00:01:37.000
to play guitar, learn how to write songs. And then, yeah,
38
00:01:37.019 --> 00:01:40.159
then I got clean and so on and so forth,
39
00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:40.760
you know?
40
00:01:40.780 --> 00:01:41.859
So yeah.
41
00:01:42.659 --> 00:01:44.340
I love how honest and open you are about your
42
00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:48.709
mental health and, you know, your addiction struggles. I am
43
00:01:48.750 --> 00:01:51.310
very open and honest about my mental health journey with
44
00:01:51.370 --> 00:01:53.730
our listeners and such. And you know, I kept it
45
00:01:53.769 --> 00:01:56.769
kind of close to the vest for so long. And
46
00:01:56.790 --> 00:02:00.090
that's kind of detrimental to myself and to other people
47
00:02:00.129 --> 00:02:02.709
around me when you start to have that open dialogue.
48
00:02:03.890 --> 00:02:05.030
Man, a lot comes from that.
49
00:02:05.349 --> 00:02:09.099
Obviously, it's therapeutic for yourself, but obviously for your fans
50
00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:10.479
and listeners as well, right?
51
00:02:10.500 --> 00:02:12.780
Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
52
00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.259
I mean, you learn that a lot through like recovery
53
00:02:15.340 --> 00:02:19.120
and whatever is like, you know, just that vulnerability and
54
00:02:19.180 --> 00:02:21.879
also the accountability and and whatever else. And so as
55
00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.819
soon as I stopped, you know, just like keeping shit
56
00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:25.840
to myself, as soon as I stopped like writing songs
57
00:02:25.860 --> 00:02:27.780
for what I thought other people wanted to hear, and
58
00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.219
then just really wrote songs for myself, it was crazy. Um,
59
00:02:31.979 --> 00:02:34.969
how many people like really resonated with what I was
60
00:02:35.250 --> 00:02:37.289
having to say, you know, it was, uh, yeah, it
61
00:02:37.330 --> 00:02:38.229
kind of changed everything.
62
00:02:38.289 --> 00:02:40.409
So yeah, I've just followed that.
63
00:02:41.349 --> 00:02:45.370
Myself included, like, you know, your, your storytelling, uh, you
64
00:02:45.409 --> 00:02:48.750
feel like you're right there with you. Um, just walk
65
00:02:48.789 --> 00:02:52.810
me through how your writing, your songwriting came to be,
66
00:02:52.870 --> 00:02:56.210
because obviously, you know, singing covers is a lot different
67
00:02:56.229 --> 00:02:59.250
than speaking from the heart. Uh, was it, was an
68
00:02:59.289 --> 00:03:01.900
easy process for you to take whatever was going on
69
00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:03.819
in your mind onto, on a paper?
70
00:03:07.340 --> 00:03:09.520
Um, yeah, I mean, it's a lot easier writing about
71
00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.620
something that like really means something to you rather than
72
00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:13.900
just trying to make, make shit up or like, I'm
73
00:03:14.090 --> 00:03:18.229
just trying to, you know, yeah, write something you think
74
00:03:18.289 --> 00:03:21.150
other people might like to hear. Um, it's a lot
75
00:03:21.210 --> 00:03:23.530
easier and the, the, the flow is a lot nicer
76
00:03:23.590 --> 00:03:25.870
and I come up with way better stuff when I'm just, yeah,
77
00:03:25.889 --> 00:03:28.189
just telling the truth and telling the truth in like
78
00:03:28.229 --> 00:03:30.870
an interesting way, you know, it's, it's like, uh, it's
79
00:03:30.889 --> 00:03:33.469
more fun and, and it, yeah, I mean, it's, yeah,
80
00:03:33.569 --> 00:03:35.669
way easier to take from your life than, than it
81
00:03:35.750 --> 00:03:38.590
is like, yeah, just come up with shit, you know?
82
00:03:38.610 --> 00:03:41.020
So were you nervous though, to put yourself out there, uh,
83
00:03:41.009 --> 00:03:43.710
to be so transparent? Yeah.
84
00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:45.530
No, not really.
85
00:03:45.550 --> 00:03:49.710
I mean, this is part of me, but like, no, not, not, uh,
86
00:03:50.590 --> 00:03:54.219
not really. I, I don't know. I, I know.
87
00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:56.560
No, that's good.
88
00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:58.580
That's good.
89
00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.300
Cause you know, at first it could be, you know,
90
00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.300
tough to kind of put yourself out there. I mean,
91
00:04:03.340 --> 00:04:06.819
you're being so honest, so open with your lyrics. And, um,
92
00:04:06.939 --> 00:04:08.939
I think it's just amazing in part, you know, one
93
00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.439
of the many reasons why your fans are latching onto
94
00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.020
you and, You know, you're about to kick off the
95
00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.730
Kingdom of Fear tour. At the time we're talking, I
96
00:04:16.750 --> 00:04:18.069
think you're kicking off tomorrow, right?
97
00:04:19.589 --> 00:04:21.930
Yeah, at the Ryman. Playing the Ryman in Nashville is
98
00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:23.009
going to be super fun.
99
00:04:23.589 --> 00:04:25.870
I'm going to start the day off with some skydiving.
100
00:04:25.990 --> 00:04:27.769
Going to go jump out of a plane a few
101
00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.740
times and then go back to the venue, get all
102
00:04:30.779 --> 00:04:33.139
set up, sound check, and then, yeah, rip it up.
103
00:04:33.139 --> 00:04:34.060
It's going to be great.
104
00:04:34.100 --> 00:04:37.459
We've got some musical guests coming, which is going to
105
00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.879
be super fun and some features and shit.
106
00:04:39.990 --> 00:04:40.889
So, yeah, it'll be great.
107
00:04:41.660 --> 00:04:43.639
You say that so casually. I'm going to go skydiving.
108
00:04:43.660 --> 00:04:45.120
I'm going to go jump out of a plane before
109
00:04:45.139 --> 00:04:45.870
I hit the stage.
110
00:04:46.389 --> 00:04:47.439
Is this your first time doing it?
111
00:04:47.449 --> 00:04:50.610
No, I've done it. I'm licensed.
112
00:04:50.790 --> 00:04:53.430
I've done it like 35 times now.
113
00:04:53.990 --> 00:04:56.689
I go all by myself. I do it that way.
114
00:04:56.709 --> 00:05:01.529
It's awesome. It's my favorite thing in the world.
115
00:05:01.589 --> 00:05:04.689
Honestly, I did it for the first time a few
116
00:05:04.740 --> 00:05:06.279
months ago and then I was like, damn, this would
117
00:05:06.300 --> 00:05:08.480
be so dope if I wasn't strapped to a dude.
118
00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:11.970
So I went and got my own license and It was, yeah, awesome.
119
00:05:13.629 --> 00:05:15.949
As someone who's like terrified of heights, that just, that
120
00:05:15.970 --> 00:05:17.370
blows my mind. That's insane.
121
00:05:19.410 --> 00:05:23.639
I'm curious with you going on tour, how do you
122
00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.579
stay with your recovery in terms of like, because I
123
00:05:27.620 --> 00:05:30.519
know for me and my mental health, it's like, I
124
00:05:30.579 --> 00:05:31.439
crave structure.
125
00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:32.579
Like I have to have a routine.
126
00:05:32.620 --> 00:05:35.620
And once I lose a vice and I gain a vice,
127
00:05:35.670 --> 00:05:38.750
which is like never ending and exhausting. How do you-
128
00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:42.500
How do you navigate this with your lifestyle?
129
00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.720
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I always think about it.
130
00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:49.569
I mean, you know, on tour and shit and with my.
131
00:05:49.459 --> 00:05:52.230
Job, like, there's real high highs and there's real low lows. And,
132
00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:54.910
you know, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't, like,
133
00:05:55.149 --> 00:05:57.550
constant all the time. Like, oh, man, it'd be really
134
00:05:57.589 --> 00:06:00.670
great to just completely lock the doors and hide away
135
00:06:00.730 --> 00:06:01.550
for a night and.
136
00:06:01.529 --> 00:06:03.209
Just get piss tanked.
137
00:06:03.250 --> 00:06:06.009
But, you know, it'd just be such a selfish and
138
00:06:06.089 --> 00:06:07.529
wrong thing to do, especially.
139
00:06:08.050 --> 00:06:10.370
you know, after building my whole career off of this.
140
00:06:10.430 --> 00:06:14.009
And then also like, you know, so many people like
141
00:06:14.189 --> 00:06:16.850
look up to me and like rely on me and
142
00:06:17.230 --> 00:06:19.750
tell me how much my music and my journey means
143
00:06:19.810 --> 00:06:20.110
to them.
144
00:06:20.189 --> 00:06:24.009
It'd be just so selfish and wrong to indulge in that. Just,
145
00:06:25.670 --> 00:06:26.350
you know, it'd just.
146
00:06:26.310 --> 00:06:29.069
Be, it'd just be letting not only myself down, like,
147
00:06:29.769 --> 00:06:32.629
and it'd be just letting everybody down. So just, I couldn't,
148
00:06:32.649 --> 00:06:36.360
I couldn't, you know, and that, and that's, and you know, yeah.
149
00:06:36.699 --> 00:06:40.339
But it's tricky, but it's so, you know, I mean,
150
00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.500
it's like one night, you know, it's just, it wouldn't,
151
00:06:42.819 --> 00:06:46.060
it wouldn't like, it just wouldn't, as soon as I got,
152
00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.620
the next morning I'd be like, damn, that was so.
153
00:06:48.500 --> 00:06:51.819
Unrewarding and wrong. Like, so I don't know.
154
00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.879
I've been staying like really good and happy and healthy
155
00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:56.839
and I keep really good.
156
00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.439
People around me. And so, so yeah, it's been awesome.
157
00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.939
I love that. That makes me happy to hear. Songwriting,
158
00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.939
do you continue to write songs while you're on tour?
159
00:07:08.930 --> 00:07:10.750
I've been trying to, not really when I'm on tour,
160
00:07:10.829 --> 00:07:13.600
but any time in between tour, I, uh, yeah, I
161
00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:15.300
like to get in the studio. I just moved to
162
00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.339
Los Angeles, so I'm hoping to get in the studio
163
00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.899
a lot more, write a lot more music. Um, yeah,
164
00:07:20.939 --> 00:07:22.860
maybe even next year, like take some time off touring,
165
00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.430
like really focusing on just like writing new music and yeah.
166
00:07:26.589 --> 00:07:27.170
Just making art.
167
00:07:28.389 --> 00:07:31.089
I want to get into, uh, obviously the single that, uh,
168
00:07:31.110 --> 00:07:33.310
everyone's talking about and we love playing Kingdom of Fear.
169
00:07:33.329 --> 00:07:37.649
It's off the, uh, Deepwater EP, Sound Like Heaven, Crying
170
00:07:37.689 --> 00:07:40.110
on the Inside. I love this EP so much, but
171
00:07:40.129 --> 00:07:42.850
let's talk about Kingdom of Fear. How did this song
172
00:07:42.889 --> 00:07:46.149
come to be? The song that's, you know, kind of
173
00:07:46.540 --> 00:07:47.600
helping change your life right now.
174
00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:53.839
Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, I wrote it on Vancouver Island
175
00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.000
with Nolan Sipe and then Jack Riley. And I remember
176
00:07:57.019 --> 00:08:00.920
the original, the original was, the verses were completely different.
177
00:08:00.939 --> 00:08:03.060
I remember I just, I hated the verses, but I
178
00:08:03.110 --> 00:08:03.689
love the chorus.
179
00:08:03.730 --> 00:08:06.310
And so, We brought it back up in Nashville when
180
00:08:06.329 --> 00:08:09.230
I was doing a session in Nashville with Jack Riley,
181
00:08:09.310 --> 00:08:10.709
Nolan Seidman, Cal Shapiro.
182
00:08:10.769 --> 00:08:14.129
And then we rewrote the verses and I was like, yes, finally.
183
00:08:14.149 --> 00:08:18.310
And sent it out to the label and whatever and
184
00:08:18.350 --> 00:08:21.310
everybody heard it. My buddy JJ, he heard it and
185
00:08:21.329 --> 00:08:23.529
was like, yeah, this is the next song for sure.
186
00:08:23.889 --> 00:08:29.240
It's fucking awesome. I was really excited and I never
187
00:08:29.269 --> 00:08:32.490
thought it would do what it's done. Now it's definitely
188
00:08:32.509 --> 00:08:34.529
been the whole game changer.
189
00:08:35.710 --> 00:08:36.529
For me and my career.
190
00:08:36.570 --> 00:08:39.220
It's been awesome and it's really cool to see how
191
00:08:39.250 --> 00:08:41.580
many people really, really resonate.
192
00:08:41.220 --> 00:08:43.659
With the tune and really believe in it.
193
00:08:43.659 --> 00:08:47.320
It's been crazy to see what it's been doing online.
194
00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:48.379
It's been awesome.
195
00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:52.139
It's a great song. It resonates. I feel like you're genre-less.
196
00:08:52.500 --> 00:08:55.100
This is only the start for you, which is just
197
00:08:55.179 --> 00:08:57.899
super exciting. And only the start of your tour, the
198
00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.799
Kingdom of Fear tour. Gotta see Cameron Whitcomb out live.
199
00:09:00.820 --> 00:09:03.299
I wish you were coming to Philly, man.
200
00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.480
I have to find you out on the road.
201
00:09:05.500 --> 00:09:10.730
One of these days. Yeah, absolutely.
202
00:09:10.909 --> 00:09:13.070
Congrats on the EP. Congrats on Kingdom of Fear. And
203
00:09:13.450 --> 00:09:15.129
just thanks for the few minutes, man.
204
00:09:15.169 --> 00:09:15.710
I appreciate it.
205
00:09:15.710 --> 00:09:16.169
All the best.
206
00:09:16.990 --> 00:09:18.970
Yeah, thank you, man. I appreciate your time.
207
00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.120
Oh, and Birthday Twins, March 20th, Pisces. Let's go.
208
00:09:22.139 --> 00:09:23.639
Oh, get the fuck out.
209
00:09:23.700 --> 00:09:25.539
Hell yeah, bro.
210
00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:26.320
That's awesome.
211
00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.919
I'm like almost 40, but March 20th, baby.
212
00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:29.940
Let's go.
213
00:09:29.980 --> 00:09:32.620
Dude, that's awesome. I love that.
214
00:09:32.730 --> 00:09:33.190
Amazing.
1
00:00:02.060 --> 00:00:05.809
Ladies and gentlemen, Cameron Whitcomb sits to chat with Bennett
2
00:00:06.309 --> 00:00:09.849
on Most Requested Live Worldwide with Romeo.
3
00:00:09.869 --> 00:00:12.810
What's going on? Cameron, good to see you, man.
4
00:00:14.050 --> 00:00:14.720
Yeah, good to see you.
5
00:00:15.449 --> 00:00:16.390
Appreciate the time.
6
00:00:16.449 --> 00:00:18.550
I was so excited to hop on this chat with
7
00:00:18.570 --> 00:00:21.530
you because we are just obsessed with your music, especially
8
00:00:21.589 --> 00:00:22.309
Kingdom of Fear.
9
00:00:22.329 --> 00:00:24.050
It sounds so good on the air. First of all,
10
00:00:24.109 --> 00:00:25.250
congrats on life.
11
00:00:27.769 --> 00:00:29.850
Yeah, thank you so much, man. Appreciate you saying that.
12
00:00:30.870 --> 00:00:31.230
Yeah, dude.
13
00:00:31.550 --> 00:00:32.469
Sounds so good on the air.
14
00:00:32.549 --> 00:00:35.509
And then when you take a deep dive into your music, man,
15
00:00:35.929 --> 00:00:37.890
like my boss and I were just like trying to
16
00:00:37.969 --> 00:00:40.890
nail down our top five Cameron Whitcomb songs from.
17
00:00:40.929 --> 00:00:42.929
You know, The Hard Way, We Love the Album, to
18
00:00:42.950 --> 00:00:44.070
the Deepwater EP.
19
00:00:44.210 --> 00:00:48.649
I mean, dude, once you kind of have that entryway,
20
00:00:48.710 --> 00:00:49.909
like I think a lot of people are listening to
21
00:00:49.969 --> 00:00:51.700
Kingdom of Fear and they're discovering you.
22
00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:54.159
And then like you started doing the deep dive. You're like, wow,
23
00:00:54.740 --> 00:00:57.740
this guy's got some songs. Like, it's crazy.
24
00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.369
And yeah. I mean, I kind of want to go
25
00:01:00.450 --> 00:01:02.270
from the start, if you don't mind. There's a lot
26
00:01:02.299 --> 00:01:04.560
I want to talk to you about. But you started
27
00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:09.379
doing what covers and doing karaoke like when you were 17.
28
00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.379
That's how this all kind of came to be.
29
00:01:12.340 --> 00:01:13.180
Yeah, pretty well.
30
00:01:13.219 --> 00:01:15.930
Yeah, I was I was like, you know, I started
31
00:01:15.950 --> 00:01:18.349
listening to Tyler Childers and I started doing like Tyler
32
00:01:18.370 --> 00:01:22.269
Childers covers like on my on my couch, all drunken
33
00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:26.159
shit and and basically posting them and post them on Reddit.
34
00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:29.239
And that's how the whole American Idol thing came about.
35
00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.480
After American Idol, you know, I got kicked off and
36
00:01:32.500 --> 00:01:34.519
then I just like, I had to go learn how
37
00:01:34.540 --> 00:01:37.000
to play guitar, learn how to write songs. And then, yeah,
38
00:01:37.019 --> 00:01:40.159
then I got clean and so on and so forth,
39
00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:40.760
you know?
40
00:01:40.780 --> 00:01:41.859
So yeah.
41
00:01:42.659 --> 00:01:44.340
I love how honest and open you are about your
42
00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:48.709
mental health and, you know, your addiction struggles. I am
43
00:01:48.750 --> 00:01:51.310
very open and honest about my mental health journey with
44
00:01:51.370 --> 00:01:53.730
our listeners and such. And you know, I kept it
45
00:01:53.769 --> 00:01:56.769
kind of close to the vest for so long. And
46
00:01:56.790 --> 00:02:00.090
that's kind of detrimental to myself and to other people
47
00:02:00.129 --> 00:02:02.709
around me when you start to have that open dialogue.
48
00:02:03.890 --> 00:02:05.030
Man, a lot comes from that.
49
00:02:05.349 --> 00:02:09.099
Obviously, it's therapeutic for yourself, but obviously for your fans
50
00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:10.479
and listeners as well, right?
51
00:02:10.500 --> 00:02:12.780
Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
52
00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:15.259
I mean, you learn that a lot through like recovery
53
00:02:15.340 --> 00:02:19.120
and whatever is like, you know, just that vulnerability and
54
00:02:19.180 --> 00:02:21.879
also the accountability and and whatever else. And so as
55
00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:23.819
soon as I stopped, you know, just like keeping shit
56
00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:25.840
to myself, as soon as I stopped like writing songs
57
00:02:25.860 --> 00:02:27.780
for what I thought other people wanted to hear, and
58
00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.219
then just really wrote songs for myself, it was crazy. Um,
59
00:02:31.979 --> 00:02:34.969
how many people like really resonated with what I was
60
00:02:35.250 --> 00:02:37.289
having to say, you know, it was, uh, yeah, it
61
00:02:37.330 --> 00:02:38.229
kind of changed everything.
62
00:02:38.289 --> 00:02:40.409
So yeah, I've just followed that.
63
00:02:41.349 --> 00:02:45.370
Myself included, like, you know, your, your storytelling, uh, you
64
00:02:45.409 --> 00:02:48.750
feel like you're right there with you. Um, just walk
65
00:02:48.789 --> 00:02:52.810
me through how your writing, your songwriting came to be,
66
00:02:52.870 --> 00:02:56.210
because obviously, you know, singing covers is a lot different
67
00:02:56.229 --> 00:02:59.250
than speaking from the heart. Uh, was it, was an
68
00:02:59.289 --> 00:03:01.900
easy process for you to take whatever was going on
69
00:03:01.919 --> 00:03:03.819
in your mind onto, on a paper?
70
00:03:07.340 --> 00:03:09.520
Um, yeah, I mean, it's a lot easier writing about
71
00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.620
something that like really means something to you rather than
72
00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:13.900
just trying to make, make shit up or like, I'm
73
00:03:14.090 --> 00:03:18.229
just trying to, you know, yeah, write something you think
74
00:03:18.289 --> 00:03:21.150
other people might like to hear. Um, it's a lot
75
00:03:21.210 --> 00:03:23.530
easier and the, the, the flow is a lot nicer
76
00:03:23.590 --> 00:03:25.870
and I come up with way better stuff when I'm just, yeah,
77
00:03:25.889 --> 00:03:28.189
just telling the truth and telling the truth in like
78
00:03:28.229 --> 00:03:30.870
an interesting way, you know, it's, it's like, uh, it's
79
00:03:30.889 --> 00:03:33.469
more fun and, and it, yeah, I mean, it's, yeah,
80
00:03:33.569 --> 00:03:35.669
way easier to take from your life than, than it
81
00:03:35.750 --> 00:03:38.590
is like, yeah, just come up with shit, you know?
82
00:03:38.610 --> 00:03:41.020
So were you nervous though, to put yourself out there, uh,
83
00:03:41.009 --> 00:03:43.710
to be so transparent? Yeah.
84
00:03:44.409 --> 00:03:45.530
No, not really.
85
00:03:45.550 --> 00:03:49.710
I mean, this is part of me, but like, no, not, not, uh,
86
00:03:50.590 --> 00:03:54.219
not really. I, I don't know. I, I know.
87
00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:56.560
No, that's good.
88
00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:58.580
That's good.
89
00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.300
Cause you know, at first it could be, you know,
90
00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.300
tough to kind of put yourself out there. I mean,
91
00:04:03.340 --> 00:04:06.819
you're being so honest, so open with your lyrics. And, um,
92
00:04:06.939 --> 00:04:08.939
I think it's just amazing in part, you know, one
93
00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:11.439
of the many reasons why your fans are latching onto
94
00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:14.020
you and, You know, you're about to kick off the
95
00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:16.730
Kingdom of Fear tour. At the time we're talking, I
96
00:04:16.750 --> 00:04:18.069
think you're kicking off tomorrow, right?
97
00:04:19.589 --> 00:04:21.930
Yeah, at the Ryman. Playing the Ryman in Nashville is
98
00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:23.009
going to be super fun.
99
00:04:23.589 --> 00:04:25.870
I'm going to start the day off with some skydiving.
100
00:04:25.990 --> 00:04:27.769
Going to go jump out of a plane a few
101
00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.740
times and then go back to the venue, get all
102
00:04:30.779 --> 00:04:33.139
set up, sound check, and then, yeah, rip it up.
103
00:04:33.139 --> 00:04:34.060
It's going to be great.
104
00:04:34.100 --> 00:04:37.459
We've got some musical guests coming, which is going to
105
00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:39.879
be super fun and some features and shit.
106
00:04:39.990 --> 00:04:40.889
So, yeah, it'll be great.
107
00:04:41.660 --> 00:04:43.639
You say that so casually. I'm going to go skydiving.
108
00:04:43.660 --> 00:04:45.120
I'm going to go jump out of a plane before
109
00:04:45.139 --> 00:04:45.870
I hit the stage.
110
00:04:46.389 --> 00:04:47.439
Is this your first time doing it?
111
00:04:47.449 --> 00:04:50.610
No, I've done it. I'm licensed.
112
00:04:50.790 --> 00:04:53.430
I've done it like 35 times now.
113
00:04:53.990 --> 00:04:56.689
I go all by myself. I do it that way.
114
00:04:56.709 --> 00:05:01.529
It's awesome. It's my favorite thing in the world.
115
00:05:01.589 --> 00:05:04.689
Honestly, I did it for the first time a few
116
00:05:04.740 --> 00:05:06.279
months ago and then I was like, damn, this would
117
00:05:06.300 --> 00:05:08.480
be so dope if I wasn't strapped to a dude.
118
00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:11.970
So I went and got my own license and It was, yeah, awesome.
119
00:05:13.629 --> 00:05:15.949
As someone who's like terrified of heights, that just, that
120
00:05:15.970 --> 00:05:17.370
blows my mind. That's insane.
121
00:05:19.410 --> 00:05:23.639
I'm curious with you going on tour, how do you
122
00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.579
stay with your recovery in terms of like, because I
123
00:05:27.620 --> 00:05:30.519
know for me and my mental health, it's like, I
124
00:05:30.579 --> 00:05:31.439
crave structure.
125
00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:32.579
Like I have to have a routine.
126
00:05:32.620 --> 00:05:35.620
And once I lose a vice and I gain a vice,
127
00:05:35.670 --> 00:05:38.750
which is like never ending and exhausting. How do you-
128
00:05:39.699 --> 00:05:42.500
How do you navigate this with your lifestyle?
129
00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.720
Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I always think about it.
130
00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:49.569
I mean, you know, on tour and shit and with my.
131
00:05:49.459 --> 00:05:52.230
Job, like, there's real high highs and there's real low lows. And,
132
00:05:53.430 --> 00:05:54.910
you know, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't, like,
133
00:05:55.149 --> 00:05:57.550
constant all the time. Like, oh, man, it'd be really
134
00:05:57.589 --> 00:06:00.670
great to just completely lock the doors and hide away
135
00:06:00.730 --> 00:06:01.550
for a night and.
136
00:06:01.529 --> 00:06:03.209
Just get piss tanked.
137
00:06:03.250 --> 00:06:06.009
But, you know, it'd just be such a selfish and
138
00:06:06.089 --> 00:06:07.529
wrong thing to do, especially.
139
00:06:08.050 --> 00:06:10.370
you know, after building my whole career off of this.
140
00:06:10.430 --> 00:06:14.009
And then also like, you know, so many people like
141
00:06:14.189 --> 00:06:16.850
look up to me and like rely on me and
142
00:06:17.230 --> 00:06:19.750
tell me how much my music and my journey means
143
00:06:19.810 --> 00:06:20.110
to them.
144
00:06:20.189 --> 00:06:24.009
It'd be just so selfish and wrong to indulge in that. Just,
145
00:06:25.670 --> 00:06:26.350
you know, it'd just.
146
00:06:26.310 --> 00:06:29.069
Be, it'd just be letting not only myself down, like,
147
00:06:29.769 --> 00:06:32.629
and it'd be just letting everybody down. So just, I couldn't,
148
00:06:32.649 --> 00:06:36.360
I couldn't, you know, and that, and that's, and you know, yeah.
149
00:06:36.699 --> 00:06:40.339
But it's tricky, but it's so, you know, I mean,
150
00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.500
it's like one night, you know, it's just, it wouldn't,
151
00:06:42.819 --> 00:06:46.060
it wouldn't like, it just wouldn't, as soon as I got,
152
00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:48.620
the next morning I'd be like, damn, that was so.
153
00:06:48.500 --> 00:06:51.819
Unrewarding and wrong. Like, so I don't know.
154
00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:55.879
I've been staying like really good and happy and healthy
155
00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:56.839
and I keep really good.
156
00:06:56.759 --> 00:07:00.439
People around me. And so, so yeah, it's been awesome.
157
00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:03.939
I love that. That makes me happy to hear. Songwriting,
158
00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:05.939
do you continue to write songs while you're on tour?
159
00:07:08.930 --> 00:07:10.750
I've been trying to, not really when I'm on tour,
160
00:07:10.829 --> 00:07:13.600
but any time in between tour, I, uh, yeah, I
161
00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:15.300
like to get in the studio. I just moved to
162
00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:17.339
Los Angeles, so I'm hoping to get in the studio
163
00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.899
a lot more, write a lot more music. Um, yeah,
164
00:07:20.939 --> 00:07:22.860
maybe even next year, like take some time off touring,
165
00:07:22.920 --> 00:07:26.430
like really focusing on just like writing new music and yeah.
166
00:07:26.589 --> 00:07:27.170
Just making art.
167
00:07:28.389 --> 00:07:31.089
I want to get into, uh, obviously the single that, uh,
168
00:07:31.110 --> 00:07:33.310
everyone's talking about and we love playing Kingdom of Fear.
169
00:07:33.329 --> 00:07:37.649
It's off the, uh, Deepwater EP, Sound Like Heaven, Crying
170
00:07:37.689 --> 00:07:40.110
on the Inside. I love this EP so much, but
171
00:07:40.129 --> 00:07:42.850
let's talk about Kingdom of Fear. How did this song
172
00:07:42.889 --> 00:07:46.149
come to be? The song that's, you know, kind of
173
00:07:46.540 --> 00:07:47.600
helping change your life right now.
174
00:07:49.060 --> 00:07:53.839
Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, I wrote it on Vancouver Island
175
00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:57.000
with Nolan Sipe and then Jack Riley. And I remember
176
00:07:57.019 --> 00:08:00.920
the original, the original was, the verses were completely different.
177
00:08:00.939 --> 00:08:03.060
I remember I just, I hated the verses, but I
178
00:08:03.110 --> 00:08:03.689
love the chorus.
179
00:08:03.730 --> 00:08:06.310
And so, We brought it back up in Nashville when
180
00:08:06.329 --> 00:08:09.230
I was doing a session in Nashville with Jack Riley,
181
00:08:09.310 --> 00:08:10.709
Nolan Seidman, Cal Shapiro.
182
00:08:10.769 --> 00:08:14.129
And then we rewrote the verses and I was like, yes, finally.
183
00:08:14.149 --> 00:08:18.310
And sent it out to the label and whatever and
184
00:08:18.350 --> 00:08:21.310
everybody heard it. My buddy JJ, he heard it and
185
00:08:21.329 --> 00:08:23.529
was like, yeah, this is the next song for sure.
186
00:08:23.889 --> 00:08:29.240
It's fucking awesome. I was really excited and I never
187
00:08:29.269 --> 00:08:32.490
thought it would do what it's done. Now it's definitely
188
00:08:32.509 --> 00:08:34.529
been the whole game changer.
189
00:08:35.710 --> 00:08:36.529
For me and my career.
190
00:08:36.570 --> 00:08:39.220
It's been awesome and it's really cool to see how
191
00:08:39.250 --> 00:08:41.580
many people really, really resonate.
192
00:08:41.220 --> 00:08:43.659
With the tune and really believe in it.
193
00:08:43.659 --> 00:08:47.320
It's been crazy to see what it's been doing online.
194
00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:48.379
It's been awesome.
195
00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:52.139
It's a great song. It resonates. I feel like you're genre-less.
196
00:08:52.500 --> 00:08:55.100
This is only the start for you, which is just
197
00:08:55.179 --> 00:08:57.899
super exciting. And only the start of your tour, the
198
00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.799
Kingdom of Fear tour. Gotta see Cameron Whitcomb out live.
199
00:09:00.820 --> 00:09:03.299
I wish you were coming to Philly, man.
200
00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.480
I have to find you out on the road.
201
00:09:05.500 --> 00:09:10.730
One of these days. Yeah, absolutely.
202
00:09:10.909 --> 00:09:13.070
Congrats on the EP. Congrats on Kingdom of Fear. And
203
00:09:13.450 --> 00:09:15.129
just thanks for the few minutes, man.
204
00:09:15.169 --> 00:09:15.710
I appreciate it.
205
00:09:15.710 --> 00:09:16.169
All the best.
206
00:09:16.990 --> 00:09:18.970
Yeah, thank you, man. I appreciate your time.
207
00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.120
Oh, and Birthday Twins, March 20th, Pisces. Let's go.
208
00:09:22.139 --> 00:09:23.639
Oh, get the fuck out.
209
00:09:23.700 --> 00:09:25.539
Hell yeah, bro.
210
00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:26.320
That's awesome.
211
00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.919
I'm like almost 40, but March 20th, baby.
212
00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:29.940
Let's go.
213
00:09:29.980 --> 00:09:32.620
Dude, that's awesome. I love that.
214
00:09:32.730 --> 00:09:33.190
Amazing.
