2/7/24 - The Mo Egger Show

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Football. We are. This is
Dave Blacklock, and you're listening to the
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on my leggar. This is ESPN
fifteen thirty. Hope you are enjoying yourself
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on a really nice Wednesday. This
is a total tease. It was like
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when I got in the car,
it was like fifty seven degrees. I
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left my house at one thirty,
which was glorious, by the way,
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and it was sunny out and fifty
seven degrees and a major feel like it
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springs almost here. It's February seventh. That springs not almost here, but
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Red's pictures and Catchers reporting is almost
here. I got a question about the
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Reds here in just a few minutes. A big game for Xavior tonight.
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They're all big this time a year, especially when you are I think if
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you're the Musketeers, you're trying to
get to the bubble, and they could
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take a step toward the bubble and
then eventually getting over it with a win
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over Villanova Tonight. Rick Burning is
going to join our show at three forty
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five to Taka Xavier and NKU basketball. We are as we always do on
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Wednesdays. Looking forward to that that
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am in search of my white whale
and it's a search that I will continue
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today. That coming up in just
a bit, plus Solomon Wilcott's at five
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oh five, and we always love
having Sally on the show from Radio Row
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in Las Vegas. Uh I touched
on this a little bit yesterday that we're
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into projection season in baseball. Spring
training is starting in about a week.
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Pictures and catchers report the best four
words in the English language, the best
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not the best two are open bar, but the best four our pitchers and
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catchers report, And so we're getting
closer, and there's enthusiasm, and there's
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optimism, and there are high expectations, and there should be all those things.
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There should be enthusiasm, right.
Last year's team made a lot of
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folks in this town rediscover their love
of baseball. I will always love the
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twenty twenty three Reds for that reason. But the success, the relative success
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they had last year, you know, it was fun. It's created optimism.
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It's also created expectation. It very
much does feel like it's playoffs or
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bust. And as we've said a
bunch of times on this show, if
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you're in, you got a shot. Just get in, Just get in,
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and you got a shot now to
get in, they're gonna have to
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overcome some stuff youth and inexperience and
the starting staff. It's not a great
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defensive team. They're gonna have to
have some guys who had good breakout rookie
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or second year seasons last year be
even better this season. They're gonna have
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to enjoy good health. Bullpen is
going to have to be a strength.
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But there's optimism and there are expectations. We were talking though yesterday, because
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it is projection season, where you
have a lot of advanced models that you
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know, project how many games the
Reds are going to win or their chances
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of winning the National League Central and
some of them are not that kind to
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the Reds. We talked about baseball
perspectives and their Pakoda projections, which has
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the Reds finishing with seventy eight wins
and finishing in fourth place in the NL
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Central. Fangrafts today came out with
their projections, and I'm a bigger fangrafs
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guy, quite frankly, than Baseball
Perspectives. They give the Reds there the
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fourth best chance of winning the division
twelve point three percent. So here are
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two respected, well known baseball outlets
where look, they're using metrics, right,
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they're using math. They're not just
spitball and stuff. And neither are
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that friendly to the Reds. Neither
believe that the Reds have an overwhelming chance
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of getting to the postseason. Baseball
Perspectives gives them about a twenty two percent
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chance of making the playoffs. Fangraft
something similar. Neither of them have them
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coming anywhere close to winning the division. Now, they may be wrong and
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you may disagree, and that's okay, and I'll be honest with you,
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man, I have a hard time
saying that I believe that any one of
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the four teams that could win the
division will win the division. The only
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thing I'm really comfortable saying about the
Nationalague Central is the Pirates won't win it.
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But the Reds got a shot they're
in the hunt or in the mix.
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It's not far fetched to suggest the
Reds can win the National League Central.
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I also, frankly, don't think
it's that far fetched to suggest that
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they may finish in fourth place.
But I think the reason for this the
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reason why there are I don't know
that there are lower expectations if you look
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at things like Baseball prospectus and fangrafts. Beyond the basic math. I come
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back to a phrase we heard and
used often last summer, ahead of schedule.
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You heard it a lot last year, Right, the Rads are ahead
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of schedule. If if twenty twenty
two was the tear down and the beginning
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of the rebuild, right, which
you know, to a large extent it
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was, as much as many of
us have gotten a weary and tired of
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hearing and using the word rebuild,
twenty twenty two was the teardown, and
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they were starting from scratch, right, and so from then to now,
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if I would have said a year
and a half ago, as the Rads
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were en route to one hundred lost
season, that by twenty twenty four we
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would be legitimately entertaining their playoff chances, you would have said, no,
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but yet here we are. Why
because last year's team accelerated the schedule.
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Last year's team was ahead of schedule. I mean, god knows. Every
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single time we brought up the possibility
of the Reds making a train, somebody
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would say, well, look,
you know, look, don't go overboard.
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Don't feel like you have to go
all in on winning this year,
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because look, they're ahead of schedule, and you know they were. Nobody
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expected the Reds to win more games
than they lost last year. Nobody,
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not a soul expected the Reds to
finish above five hundred last season, but
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they did. And not only that, they were in the hunt until the
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second to last day of the season. They were in first place in August.
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Hell, yeah, they were ahead
of schedule. They won twenty more
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games last year then they did the
previous season, So yeah, man,
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they were ahead of schedule. But
here's the question, at what point does
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the schedule catch up to you?
For how long can you legitimately remain ahead
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of schedule? And therein lies,
at least to me where some of the
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it's not pessimism, I think to
a degree, it's realism. And look,
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I am very bullish on the Reds. I think they have a damn
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good chance to get to the postseason. I don't think they're a ninety win
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team. I think they can finish
somewhere. I think they're gonna finish.
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I'll just say it. I always
try to go within five games eighty two
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to eighty six wins. Eighty six
wins I believe will put them in the
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postseason in the water Dow playoffs that
we have right now. But you know,
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big picture, you know, long
term, man, there's a lot
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of young dudes, a lot of
good young talent, and if the starting
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pitcher is starting, pitching ends up
being not just a little bit better than
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it was last year, but significantly
better, and all of these guys realize
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their potential. Boy, this team
this season might really take off. I
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think it's a really fun time to
be a Reds fan. I think it's
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a really good time to be a
Reds fan. I cannot wait for the
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season, and for the first time
in quite a while, I can't wait
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for the season for reasons that go
beyond, you know, getting a chance
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to spend a warm summer night at
the ballpark. I think the team has
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a chance to be even more fun
and better than last year's But but for
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how long can you remain ahead of
schedule? It's not an apples to apples
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comparison, right, But you know, you see basketball this year in the
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Big twelve sort of appears to be
ahead of schedule. Right. They're four
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and five, which isn't great,
but they're right there in the mix,
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right there in the mix. They
look and feel a lot like a Big
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twelve team to a degree. They're
ahead of schedule in the second half of
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the season. I wonder when does
the schedule catch up to them? The
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twenty twenty one Bengals were ahead of
schedule, and you know, the following
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season, the schedule really didn't catch
up to them. And when I say
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schedule, I'm not talking about the
slate of games they play. But the
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idea in twenty twenty one was,
you know, okay, well, hopefully
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they can finish maybe with enough wins
that they're playing meaningful games in December and
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lo and behold, there they were
in the Super Bowl. And then a
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lot of folks wandered. In twenty
twenty two. Okay, they were kind
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of ahead of schedule. When does
the schedule catch up to them? And
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it didn't. In twenty twenty two, and so hopefully that's the case for
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the Reds this year. But whenever
you're ahead of schedule, at some point
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you wonder is the schedule gonna catch
up to us? Is is the calendar
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going to catch up to us?
Is the timeline going to catch up to
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us? Right? And so I
think it's fair to wonder if last season
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represented, you know, what,
the Reds being ahead of schedule, if
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if they're going to the playoffs this
year, that still feels like relative to
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what everybody thought in twenty twenty two, they're ahead of schedule. And you're
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probably already tired of hearing me say
ahead of schedule. But at what point
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does does the timeline sort of catch
up to you? And I don't have
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an answer. I don't and you
know, to a degree, the answer
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is, well, it catches up
to him if the starting pitching doesn't take
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a major step forward. But you
know, I think that's where some of
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this lies without getting into a real
deep dive of some of the you know,
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advance metrics that determine you know,
projections and stuff like that. It's
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like if I'm ever, like on
a long road trip and I'm looking at
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ways or the GPS or whatever,
and I feel like I'm making great time
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and I'm ahead of schedule. I
just I wonder, Okay, at some
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point the traffic jam is gonna come. At some point, there's gonna be
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something that slows me down. Boy. I was making great time and then
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there was a wreck. Boy I
was making great time. I was ahead
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of schedule. I was going to
get to where I'm going far far earlier
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than I thought. And then you
know what, there's a bad rain,
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there's construction, there's there's something right. And so I think it's fair to
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wonder if last season represented the Reds
being dramatically ahead of schedule because they finished
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with more wins than losses, which
was probably originally what we thought they could
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try to do in twenty twenty four, but they did it last year.
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Can staying ahead of schedule continue?
I think it's a fair question if you
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have an answer. Five point three
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six seven oh two three seven,
seven six are the the phone numbers.
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Ryan Days giving a play calling,
which I think is is kind of interesting,
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and a lot of us are going
to apply that to the Bengals.
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And I will not because I want
Zach Taylor to relinquish play calling, but
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because there is something about what Ryan
Day did that I really really like.
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Rick Poring coming up at three forty
five Xavier Villanova tonight, first of consecutive
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home games for the Musketeers. They
avoid disaster by hammering De Paul. They've
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got time to build a resume.
They're playing a fellow twelve and ten team
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tonight. We'll preview it with Rick
coming up in just under thirty minutes.
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I'm in search of my white whale. I'll tell you what my white whale
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is next twenty two minutes after three. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm
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Oeger and thanks. They're listening today
and every day, or maybe most days.
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I don't know. Rick Burwing's going
to join our show. Xavier in
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Pillanova tonight's home game for the Musketeers. Area college basketball. Last night,
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Kentucky goes to Vanderbilt, pounds the
Commodoores. They're awesome from three, when
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they're clicking on all cylinders on the
offensive end, we know what they can
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do. The questions remain, are
they serious enough on defense to beat really
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good teams when it matters the most. The Dayton Flyers kind of screwed around
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for the first half at Saint Joe's
last night, in a game that if
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you're a UD fan maybe you couldn't
watch if your carrier stopped carrying CBS Sports
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Network. And then in the second
half they were awesome and they survive in
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Philadelphia on the road against Saint Jose. You see has Houston Houston wins.
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Last night, Kelvin Samson got kicked
out. The Cougars were on their way
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to a blowout victory at home over
Oklahoma State, who is not good.
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Kelvin Samson got chucked. He was
upset with Big twelve officiating. After the
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game, he kind of deferred.
He declined to really go into detail because
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he said, look, if I
speak the truth, I'm gonna be fine
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twenty five thousand dollars. I am
completely and totally, by the way,
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opposed to fighting coaches at any level
of sport or players when they criticize officiating.
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If you're gonna ask them to speak, and you want them to speak
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honestly, you have to give them
more rope than leagues do college ampro But
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what's interesting is in the aftermath of
what happened in that game last night in
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Houston was you know, a lot
of folks talked about how bad the officiating
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has been in the Big Twelve conference. Now, I've enjoyed Big Twelve basketball,
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watching UCB in the Big Twelve for
a lot of different reasons, not
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the least of which is the fact
that for the most part, and there
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have been exceptions, but for the
most part, the officials have let a
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lot of things go. I like
it when the game doesn't get globbed up
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with a lot of whistles, a
lot of fouls, like guys play.
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It's kind of basketball that I like. Now. You know, anecdotally here
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or there, there have been calls
I've disagreed with, or times where I
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felt like there was excessive contact and
maybe a whistle should be blown. But
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still, but anyway, it's I'm
reading a lot of stuff in the aftermath
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of Kelvin Samson getting chucked out of
that game last night, and a few
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things reference the inconsistent or shaky officiating
in the Big Twelve, regarded by many
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as the best basketball conference in the
country. A week or so ago,
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the Baylor athletic director spoke out against
Big twelve officiating and got fine twenty five
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thousand dollars, and his gripes were
legitimate. But anyway, it was Big
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twelve basketball officiating being thrown into the
crosshairs of the public. Can people mad
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about it? What's interesting to me
is, you know, you see,
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for years was in the American Athletic
Conference, a league that is you know
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when when you see was in it
not regarded as as good as the Big
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twelve, and so UC would play
in the American Athletic Conference and calls would
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happen and NonStop. I would hear
and watch people complain about officiating in the
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American Athletic Conference. Okay, we
are winding down an NFL season on Sunday
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with the Super Bowl. On a
weekly basis, I will read and hear
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NonStop gripes about the officiating in the
National Football League, and then everybody will
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have their solutions and people will talk
about, well, you got to make
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the officials full time employees, which
I frankly really don't think is going to
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work. Uh, there's gonna be
a Xavier Villanova game tonight. I don't
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know how it's going to go,
but I guarantee you at some point I
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will read something about Big East officiating. Maybe it comes from a Xavier person,
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maybe it comes from of Villanova person, maybe it comes from someone who's
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watching independently. We are getting ready
for baseball season, and god knows there's
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going to be a NonStop griping about
baseball umpiring and then the renewed calls for
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robot umpires, which we do not
need. And as an NBA fan,
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there are fans who obsess over the
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know, things that go awry in
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to the Big Twelve, there have
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here is my white whale. And
I know this is not the first time
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that I have brought this up.
Is there a fan of any sport,
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of any sport who would say publicly, you know, the officiating in this
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league is really, really good.
I don't think we're gonna get it from
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Major League Baseball fans. I know
we're not going to get it from NFL
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fans. All I read about is
folks who believe that the league is fixed,
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even though nobody really thinks that.
On a nightly basis, there are
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people angry at any given leagues officiating, not just in basketball men's basketball,
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but I'm sure in women's basketball and
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the National Hockey League closely enough,
to be honest with you. I watch
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Blue Jackets games and that's it until
the playoffs. But I'm going to go
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out on a limb and suggest that
there aren't a lot of hockey fans who
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feel like, you know what,
our officials are doing a really, really
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good job. So this has been
my white whale for a while. And
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the reason I do this is because
I will occasionally read people talk about,
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you know, here are the solutions
for how the NFL fixes its officiating issues,
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or here's what the NBA needs to
do to fix its officiating issues,
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or here are some of the officiating
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can be rectified. And god knows, baseball has been on an endless quest
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for perfection from umpires, so much
so that in minor leagues we are testing
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out robot umpires, which again we
do not need. So there is there
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anybody, Is there anybody who's a
fan who would say this is my favorite
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sport, whatever it is, this
is my favorite sport, and you know
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what, the officiating is really really
good. My guess is the answer is
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no, which is why whenever I
hear or read about officiating problems or things
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that need to be done to rectify
officiating problems, I just, for for
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the most part, I don't really
consider it. It kind of goes in
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and in one and out the other. Is there anybody who's genuinely, genuinely
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satisfied, pleased with the officiating in
a certain sport Because looking at a lot
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of folks online and reading pieces about
Kelvin Sampson last night in the Baylor Ad
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last week, it feels like a
lot of people aren't very happy with the
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officiating in the Big twelve, but
are like Big ten basketball fans like,
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you know what, our officiating's top
notch man are Packed twelve basketball fans like
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you know what, our officiating's good
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My guess is no. Uh,
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What else do we have? What else
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do we have? Xavier play the
night at home against Villanova seven o'clock tip.
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Game is live on seven hundred WLW. XU lost to Kyle Neptune's team
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the first go around. Villanova's twelve
and ten Xavier's twelve and ten. Something
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has to give. Quincy Oliveri obviously, coming off of transcendent performance against Depault.
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You know, we're in bracketology and
bubble watch season where sometimes we talk
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a little bit too much about that
stuff and not so much about the basketball
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parts. But you know, look, this is very simple to me.
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Xaver's got to win these next two
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to talk about building a resume.
And I don't say that there's no there's
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no criticism there. It's just the
reality of a team that's twelve and ten,
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that's got to win its home games, that has two in front of
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it against teams that it has lost
to, and both games there for the
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taking. You can make arguments they
could have won either, if not both,
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of the two games they've played so
far against Villanova and Creighton. But
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come out of this stretch with obviously
some difficult home games still ahead, but
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come out of this stretch at fourteen
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think we'll then really start to talk
about, Okay, can they get to
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none that we can't now, but
really start to talk about can they get
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to the number of wins needed to
make you feel like if they go to
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New York they can they can find
themselves in the aftermath of the Big East
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Tournament, in the NCAA Tournament lose
tonight, you know, I think some
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are going to overplay and I probably
have already done it myself the elimination game
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angle, but it's it's a pair
of teams with to a degree similar profiles.
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Villanova has some awesome wins and then
some head scratching losses, but get
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to the end of this week with
a couple of wins at home, and
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then the math starts to become a
lot more doable. We'll see seven o'clock
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tonight from Sintas on a seven hundred
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show yesterday about Rick Patino, who's
lobbying for a salary cap in college basketball.
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If there's one thing I've come to
know in the years that I've been
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doing this, it's that fans love
salary caps, love the idea of them.
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At least everybody wants one in baseball, and I'll admit to you I'm
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more open to the idea than i've
ever been now. Philosophically speaking, I'm
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against anything that cap salaries in any
business. There's no salary cap in radio,
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there's no salary cap where you work, but we love them in pro
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sports. I'm as capitalist as you'll
find, so I'm kind of anti salary
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cap. But all right, if
you want to if you really want to
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address the inequities in baseball, and
you could tell me what the players would
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get in return, I'll listen to
arguments for a salary cap. A salary
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cap in college basketball is probably completely
and totally unrealistic. But I'm kind of
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taken aback by the amount of people
who I think have notdded along with Rick
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Patino about this idea. And I
brought this up late in the show yesterday,
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but why do we want to close
the inequity gap in college basketball by
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restricting what can be spent on players
when we seemingly have no interest in capping
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what can be spent on on coaches
and recruiting and facilities. No one talks
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about there being a specific cap on
travel or recruiting budgets, or what the
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assistant coaches salary pools are going to
be per school. Not a lot to
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talk about capping those things. Not
a lot to talk about capping what an
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athletic department can spend on its coaches, its head coaches. But now that
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players are getting their share of the
pie, why do we want to cap
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that per program? And my questioned
yesterday was, you know, we act
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like inequities competitive inequities in college sports
are a new thing that we're just created
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by things like nil, when in
reality, the gap between the haves and
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the have nots grows every single year, and typically when they do, we
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celebrate them. And I have yet
to get an answer. We'll get some
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answers about XU and NKU hoops with
our buddy Rick Brewing. Next, Basketball
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Hall of Famer Dwayne Wade explores the
Lives and or We're probably not getting a
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team. It's a quarter to four
on ESPN fifteen thirty. Rick Brewing is
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here. His website is Musketeer Report
dot com. If you're a Xavier fan,
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you should subscribe to his website.
He's also the color analyst on NKU
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radio broadcasts, and just a few
minutes ago he solicited questions for the Skinny
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podcasts or podcast There's only one,
and it's been a while since I've submitted
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a question, so I'm sort of
thinking about it. Hi, Rick,
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Hey, how are you I'm doing
I'm doing really really well yourself, I'm
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great. I'm enthralled by the question
you could come up with, because usually
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yours are always like lists. Some
television female characters from the nineteen eighties.
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I've already done that one. Huh
yeah, yeah, we've addressed that one
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already. So it's always very interesting
for me. Okay, very good.
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Give me the non Quincy Oliveri takeaway
from Saturday Xavier went over to Paul and
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the non Quincy Oliveri takeaway I think
is Lazar Djokovic for Xavier, the freshman
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forward from Serbia played thirteen minutes in
this game, and that was coming off
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a game again think John's where he
didn't see the floor. And this is
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a guy that you know before the
season. John Rostein came through practice,
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Jeff Goodman came through practice, John
Fanta came through practice, and all of
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them tweeted something about how great was
our Djokovic was going to be this year
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as a freshman, and he just
hasn't done much to this point. He
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struggled to stay on the floor,
quite honestly, and in this game against
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the Paul, and granted it is
the Paul, and maybe that's the biggest
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reason for his success in this game, but he was able to play thirteen
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quality minutes and hold his own defensively
without fouling, which was something Xavier's frontcourt
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was struggling to do in that game. Do you have a takeaway on the
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way Quincy OLIVERI lit up the Blue
Demons. Well, I mean, it
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was just an absurd performance. I
think the bigger thing to me is to
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go with the assist no turnovers in
thirty six minutes of action. I mean,
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to play a game like that where
you have the ball in your hands
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that often to score forty plus points
and you're forcing the issue a bit and
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playing very aggressively to get that total
to not turn the ball over, it
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is just incredible, in my opinion, do you think I should ask every
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question with the word takeaway in it? I'm gamed four it. I call
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all my postgame columns takeaway. That's
really all we got in sports, it
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really is. I think we can
all agree in these highly divisive times,
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we can all agree on use of
the word takeaway. I'm not going to
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use it here though. Behavior lost
a close one to Villanova a few weeks
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ago in suburban Philadelphia by a point, a game that was there for the
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taking, A game that des Claude
had a couple of chances to make huge
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baskets down the stretch and did not. I don't mean to sound like I'm
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picking on him. What has to
happen tonight for the opposite outcome and a
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Musketeers win over the Wildcats. Well, Villanova is a little bit different defensively
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than the way a lot of the
teams have been playing Davier. No,
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don't get me wrong, and they're
still going to get out on Quincy Alavaria
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and try to take away his three
point opportunities. But most every other team
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rate now has been really selling out
to extend out on the perimeter, takeaway
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any three point looks for Xavior,
you know, Yukon and creating. Both
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of the two teams with seven foot
shot blockers at the rim do a really
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good job of making you finish in
the mid range. Villanova is a little
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bit different. They'll pack their defense
in tighter, they'll sell out to make
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it tough to score in the mid
range and the lane and around the rim,
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and they'll give you more open looks. So I think Zager's going to
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have to knock down some shots in
this game. Quincy Alaveraria was one for
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eight in that game at Villanova that
you were referencing from deep, so they're
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going to need him to make some
open looks. When he gets those opportunities,
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they're going to need some other guys
to play well. Trey Green got
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some open looks and made two threes
in that first game too, so keep
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an eye on him. I think
the three point shooting will be key in
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this one. And then you mentioned
Desmond Quaud. He has to play well.
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When he finishes well and scores in
the mid range. Dager is a
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much better team and he wasn't able
to do that in the first game against
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Villanova, and they came up just
a point short. If they win tonight
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and be Creighton this weekend, can
they get to eighteen wins. Yeah,
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well, without question. If they
win both of those games, then they're
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really on track and you can start
thinking about them playing their way to comfortably
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being in the Big Dance. I
mean, that would give them another Quad
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one win. With the win over
Creighton, Villanova would just be a Quad
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two win. But just in terms
of the math there, I think at
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that point then you've still got home
games less against Providence to Paul and Marquette.
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You've got another game at Butler,
You've got a game at Georgetown which
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would be very winnable. So the
math of stacking wins and getting to that
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eighteen number becomes much easier if you
go to and O. This week,
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Rick Browing is with this Musketeer Report
dot Com on a human level because it
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wasn't going to impact the team this
year. How heartbreaking is the Jerome Hunter
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injury. It's just brutal because you
know, this is a guy that I
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don't think people even maybe go all
the way back to his freshman year at
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Indiana, but when he got on
campus at Indiana that first year, right
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away he was forced to red shirt. He had surgery on his leg,
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had a weird like circulation issue that
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published, but just a really tough
way to start his career, and then
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it felt like it never really got
on track for him. He had to
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transfer from Indiana after two more years
there where he didn't play as well as
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he wanted. And then finally last
year, late in the season, everything
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clicked for him and he was playing
really well and playing an important role for
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the Xavier team. And he was
coming back this year to try to star
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for the Musketeers and he suffers a
heart attack in June and just as he
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works his way back from that to
get cleared for full contact practice. You
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suffered a torn achilles. Just a
brutal stretch for that young man, and
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he's really had a tough college career. So he says he wants to come
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back and try to play next year. So you just hope it all works
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out. There, no question about
that. Rick Boring Musketeer Report dot Com
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and color Man on a NK you
radio broadcast. Meanwhile, the Norse getting
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said for a home game tomorrow against
Oakland, NK you trying to break a
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three game losing skid. What happened
down the stretch against Wright State, Well,
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I think that you know, you
go into that right eleven minute mark
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and NK you had a four point
lead, and then over the next five
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minutes write State one on a seventeen
to oh run. And that's where I
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think the leadership for NKU just has
to be better. And you don't want
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to put it all Mark wes work. Obviously, he's playing really well and
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he's doing a whole lot. He
scored twenty points in this game. But
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I think I really looked to some
of the guys in the front court.
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You know, Trey Robinson is an
experienced player. He's been here for a
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long time. They need him to
play his best, especially in a stretch
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like that where his team's giving up
a big run like that. Someone has
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to break it up. Someone has
to either get to the free throw line
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or find a way to finish inside
and get an easy basket for this team
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when they're in a stretch like that
offensively, and no one was able to
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step up and do that. So
that's what really stood out to me and
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the thing that they're trying to correct
going forward. But I really do think
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this performance against Wright State was much
better than they looked a week ago in
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the losses to Purdue, Fort Wayne
and Youngstown State. All Right, awesome
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stuff. As always, i think
I'm going to have a question. I'm
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going to have you ranked some careers. It's been like two years since I've
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done that on the Skinny podcast.
I'd love to thank you, Bill,
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all right, anything for you.
Thank you as always see Rick report time
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he sounds thrilled. You could hear
Rick along with Jim Kelch Tomorrow night NKU
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hosting Oakland. That is a seven
o'clock game live on ESPN fifteen thirty.
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Pre game coverage starting at six thirty
today. For whatever reason, I don't
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know why it feels like it's Tuesday. I looked on the thing the game
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is on two eight. I almost
said Thursday instead of tomorrow. Now I
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would have been correct either way.
Today is not Tuesday. It's Wednesday,
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all day long, all day long, so to speak, we are guests
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free until Solomon Wilcotts and a doctor
can I can I quickly do this?
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It's Radio Row Reek. Huh,
Radio Row week at the super Bowl,
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which means if you go to Radio
Row, you do these interviews and we've
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done them before from Radio Row,
where you get again and the guest comes
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on and he talks about whatever it
is you want to talk about. So
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in our case, Solomon Wilcotts is
at Radio Row, but because he's Sally,
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and because we love Sally, even
though we're not at Radio Row,
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we're gonna get Sally on and then
so for like eight or nine minutes we're
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gonna talk about football. We're talking
about the Bengals and the offseason and t
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Higgins and Joe Burrow and well we'll
talk about the super Bowl a little bit,
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and then we have to do a
plug. Like there's there's a transactional
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part of these interviews where you know, I was I was watching an interview
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this week where, uh, some
Chicago Bears players were at Radio Row and
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they were there on behalf of a
paper towel company that I'm not gonna mention
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because I'm not getting paid by it. And then so they talk about the
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Bears, and then they have to
talk about paper towels. So Sally,
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we're gonna get on the show and
he's gonna talk football, and then he's
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out there in Vegas. He's gonna
hand the phone to some doctor who's going
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to talk about whatever it is.
Sally is being paid to plug. So
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I'm just I'm going to warn you. At five oh five, you're gonna
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hear Solomon Wilcotts, who's awesome.
You're gonna hear he and I talk about
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football. And it's gonna be great
because Sally is great. And then it's
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gonna get awkward because in exchange for
having Sally on the show, we got
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to have doctor. I haven't even
memorized the guy's name. The doctor's gonna
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come on and he's gonna plug something, and then he's gonna give the phone
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back to Sally, and we're gonna
say goodbye. And so for that that
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brief stretch of time where the doctor
is on, it's gonna seem weird and
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awkward, but you will have just
gotten like a good eight or nine minutes
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of Solomon Wilcott's talking about the Bengals
and football and the Super Bowl in the
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off season, and god knows what
else we ask him. So just FYI,
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I hope you're ready. Five minutes
away from four o'clock. Five point
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three seven, four nine, fifteen
thirty is UH our phone number. It
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was interesting news from Columbus today that
made me think about, well something here.
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And I was talking before about the
Big twelve schedule, right in the
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Big twelve standings, which you see
kind of moved up last night because of
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what happened in the Big Twelve.
I think it's fair to reset expectations based
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on how a season starts to unfold. But let's go back to the beginning
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of the year. If you're a
Bearcat fan and what your expectations were for
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U see right now, we'll do
that coming up in just a bit at
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Moeger on Twitter. We'll come up
with a pole question two and more on
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the Reds. We're here till six. Comele the way from four o'clock ESPN
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fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
Are you ready for some football? We
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are Burrow to Chase happens here.
This is the official home of the Bengals
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PSP in fifteen thirty Borough to Chicken
Sports Caffins here, and that's why I
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connect for them. This is ESPN
fifteen thirty. My name's Moegger. You're
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listening to our show and I cannot
thank you enough. I cannot thank you
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enough. I'm gonna do this really
quick as listening there to the top of
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the hour. Update on ESPN Radio, Boston College might hire Bill O'Brien.
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Bill O'Brien just agreed to become the
offensive coordinator at Ohio State. Bill O'Brien,
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let me see if I can keep
track. Since two thousand and twelve,
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he's been the head coach at Penn
State. He was the first full
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time coach after Joe Paterno. He
was the coach at Penn State. Then
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he was the coach of the Texans
and he was good in the regular season,
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and then he had that playoff game
where they were up twenty four to
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nothing against the Chiefs and melted down. And then he went to Alabama and
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then he was with the Pays who
he was with before he was at Penn
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State. Now he's at Ohio State. But now he might go to Boston
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to be the head coach at Boston
College, but he might not, and
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then if he doesn't, he's going
to stay and be the offensive coordinator at
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Ohio State. Interesting career, high
profile career. As reading this, and
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chances are if you're an Ohio State
fan, you know this. Ryan Day
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had a press conference today and he
announced that he is going to give up
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play calling duties for the twenty twenty
four season. Even though his hand picks
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successor might not be calling plays,
Bill O'Brien, he might need to go
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find a new offensive coordinator. And
then, by the way, like you
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seen went through this last year,
Tom Manning came to Cincinnati as the offensive
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coordinator from Iowa State and then had
a chance to go coach for the Indianapolis
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Colts, and you see, then
had to go get a different offensive coordinator.
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But anyway, so this happens,
and when players do it, it's
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well, they're they're torching their commitment. When coaches do it. It's just
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business, right, Yeah. Anyway, so I don't care about Bill O'Brien.
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Ryan Day says that he's not gonna
call plays, and that's well,
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I guess to a degree understandable.
They've got to figure out who their quarterback
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is going to be. They're gonna
have a big competition. Also, like
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you know, this is a big
year for Ryan Day at Ohio State.
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I don't know if it's as cut
and dry as he has to beat Michigan
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and win the national title as many
have made it seem to be, but
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you know, look there, it
does sort of feel like there's a degree
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of pressure on him that hasn't existed
for any coach in that particular job since
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John Cooper was the head coach and
they've had some issues on the offensive side
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of the ball maximizing their talent,
and so it makes total sense for someone
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to do a re examination of the
offense and conclude, maybe we'll do things
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a little bit differently, and perhaps
this will allow Ryan Day to succeed in
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other areas that college head coaches have
to succeed. And I'm sure his fingerprints
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will still be all over the offense. I'm sure, he'll have a major
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hand in game planning, but he's
not going to call plays. Is it
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going to work? I have no
remote idea, But I do applaud anybody
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who kind of takes a look at
how something is working and isn't stubborn and
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says, okay, well let somebody
else do it. By the way,
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for people who care about credit,
and everybody does. Everybody in every business
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cares about credit. If it works, And Ohio State's offense really takes off,
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and the Buckeyes beat Michigan, though
with a different head coach, and
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they go far in the playoff,
they play for and win an national championship,
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and offense is the main reason.
Guess what, the new play caller
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is going to get a lot of
credit that Ryan Day isn't. I give
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him a lot of credit for doing
this. Now, there's part of it
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is desperation, right, The buzzards
are maybe starting to circle just a little
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bit. But this is a guy
who is regarded as a good offensive coach.
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They've achieved some a high level of
success offensively in the past. They
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have a way of doing things that
maybe not relative to the massive expectations in
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Columbus are successful, but to a
large degree, they're more successful than almost
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every other college football program. Ohio
State's problems are indeed first world problems,
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and I don't know that their issue
offensively is play calling. But okay,
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how do we maximize what we can
do on offense? So you know what
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I'm gonna do here. I'm gonna
flip this to the Bengals now on the
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first to tell you, the very
first to tell you that I think we
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talk about play calling too much.
First of all, I don't think most
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of us have any idea what goes
into calling a play. I also think
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it's the part of the job that
we can kind of relate to most because
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all of us have sat there and
gone, Okay, it's third and four,
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let's not run it here, or
it's third and one, let's run
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the football. We've all done that, you know. So it's the easy
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part to focus on. But the
reality is this with the Bengals, with
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Zach Taylor as the head coach,
for all of his success, we have
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spent a lot of time wondering about
the function of the offense. Why doesn't
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it take off quite to the extent
that we would like. Conversations that we
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have had for years, even amid
some really really successful seasons, even with
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Joe Burrow putting together some terrific years
and Jamar Chase turning into a star and
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t Higgins being productive, we've wanted
at times, God, you know,
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what, can the offense function better? Some boil it down to simply play
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calling. Chances are whatever issues they've
had go beyond play calling. But I
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kind of wonder and will continue to
wonder until the offense gives us reason to
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not wonder anymore. Would it makes
sense for Zach to do a re examination
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of things and let someone else call
the plays? Not because Dan Pitcher or
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whoever. Obviously, right now the
offensive coordinator is going to be Dan Pitcher
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unless he becomes the coach of Boston
College, which joking. Uh, this
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is something I've talked about now for
two years. It's open mindedness. It's
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not being stubborn. It's willingness to
try different and new things. Sometimes you're
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forced to out of desperation. And
Zach Taylor isn't necessarily in a position where
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you know he's on the hot seat. I'm not sure that there are many
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coaches in the NFL whose job status
is more secure and there are good reasons
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for that, And so Zach's going
to call the plays this year, and
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maybe the offense functions even better,
and maybe Dan Pitcher ends up getting a
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lot of the credit for why it
functions even better, even if he's not
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calling plays. But if not,
okay, well we've changed coordinator. The
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play caller is the same. I
don't think it's then going to be unreasonable
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to say that it's time for the
head coach to do what Ryan Day just
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did. Like I think there's I
think there's something cool. And again it's
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it's easy to go, well,
look, Ryan Day's desperate, he's feeling
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the pressure, all those things.
This is an offensive coach. He's had
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success, He's competed for a national
championship. I mean, like, Ryan
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Day's done a very good job.
He's not a lot of success in Columbus.
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I know there's a lot of frustrations
with how things have gone recently,
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but you know, relative to what
a lot of programs deal with, and
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you know, I mean, if
Ryan Day were out of a gig all
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of a sudden and wasn't going to
be a head coach, there's a billion
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programs, only a billion NFL teams
that would love to have him as an
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offensive coordinator, but his side of
the ball, here's his specialty. And
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yeah, maybe it helps when you
have a Bill O'Brien. But still,
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you know what, I'm gonna step
away. We're gonna try things differently.
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We're gonna try to maximize what we
can be. I'm gonna reduce I'm gonna
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remove my ego from it. I'm
gonna remove my my feelings from it.
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I'm going to even allow someone else
to get credit for whatever success we have.
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And I'm gonna back away from play
calling. And I'll still have a
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role. I'll still have a hand, I'll still have a say, I'll
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still have veto power. He may
even call play here or there. I
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think there's something about that that's admirable. And I think there's something about that
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that you know, I've wondered for
a while now. And I know Zach
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is you know, talked about why
he calls plays and Dave Lapham was home
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with Lance a week or so ago
and discussed, you know the possibility of
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well, you know, Brian Callahan
was still here. Maybe Zach relinquishing those
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duties. It's not about specifically calling
the plays. To me, it's just
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about all right, how do we
function most efficiently? How do we function
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most effectively? Here? Every organization
should be looking at those things. How
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do we function at our absolute best? How do we how do we maximize
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efficiency and effectiveness? And you know, who's spitting the call into the headset
610
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or who's dictating the call into the
helmet radio with a quarterback, it plays
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a role. Perhaps somebody has examined
that in Columbus, even though there are
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no helmet radios, which makes no
sense, and they're changing how they do
613
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things. It may work, it
may not, but at least the parties
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involved were open to it, and
it has often felt like here, and
615
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maybe less so recently, like the
parties involved haven't been quite as open to
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it. It's not so much about
it's not about play calling. But to
617
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me, it's about, all right, let's re examine things and try something
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different when we are not getting the
most out of what talent we have or
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what our offense is supposed to be, and that those questions and those conversations
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are only going to continue until we
see the offense completely take off, and
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maybe it will this year again.
Give me Joe Burrow healthy for seventeen games.
622
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Maybe it will, ah, but
I don't know. I saw that
623
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in Columbus that I thought a little
bit about Cincinnati whole play calling thing fourteen
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00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:36.800
minutes after four o'clock. I'm kind
of curious about expectations for UC basketball after
625
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nine games in the Big Twelve.
We'll spend some time on that. I
626
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.280
sat on the show yesterday with Paul
Danner Junior that the Chiefs don't bug me
627
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.800
and there's a basic reason why,
and maybe it has something to do with
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age. I don't know, but
we'll get into that. We'll take some
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phone calls as well. On ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station cincinnatilist about Lon
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go. Something I was speaking of
Paul Danner Junior being on the show yesterday.
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Something that came out of our conversation
yesterday coming up in just a few
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minutes. But first, first,
let's talk to some folks who are waiting
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on hold Sam in Independence. You're
on ESPN fifteen thirty. What's going on?
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Hey mo? First of all,
I want to give a shout out
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in studio to one of your guys, Liam Tomlinson. Defe's there. I've
648
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known him for ten years. Liam's
a good man. He is not here.
649
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He's normally working in the morning with
Mike McConnell. Now yesterday he was
650
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.119
late to work and got called out
on the air. And Liam does a
651
00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:40.840
good job. I've known William since
junior high and I'm pretty sure this knowing
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him and having arguments with him over
the Bengals for ten years in the launch
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room every day, I think this
is the perfect fit for him. But
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I do want to say something about
the Bengals play calling situation and post some
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thoughts with Dan Pitcher coming up,
as you know, the offensive coordinator from
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quarterbacks coach. He was talking to
Dave Lapham on on Lapham's podcast in the
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Trenches. It kind of seemed like
there was a bit of a different side
658
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to how the Bengals play calling is. It kind of seems like it's not
659
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:28.800
Zach always calling everything. There's different
guys who are all in the same headphone
660
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telling kind of Zach what they want. And from what I got from it
661
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that Pitcher's pretty much been the guy
already calling plays in gold to go situations
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and on third down down yeah yeah, and Zach. Zach and Dan talked
663
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about that when they have the press
availability to talk about Dan being the guy.
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The the the general play caller is
Zach Taylor. I do think,
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and I did hear that podcast that
Dan did with lap I do think there's
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more collaborate people then people realize,
Yeah, and I've had problems with Zach
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Taylor. But at the same time, I think it's different than the Ryan
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Day scenario. I don't think the
Bengals are, nor should they be,
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in a state where Zach Taylor is
desperate to do something to keep his job.
670
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No, not at all. Isn't
and shouldn't be because and I thought
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this when they promoted Dan pittrid o'
see within twenty four hours of Callahan leaving.
672
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I think the worst thing the Bengals
could do, the worst thing that
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the front office could do, is
shake up everything, bring in someone who's
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been outside for for a while,
because I think the Bengals have had the
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success to justify not having to do
something what with Ryan Day's doing. Because
676
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with Ryan Day, if he loses
to the team up North again this year,
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he's going to get fired. But
also I do have a question for
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you about a different thing that I
thought about, speaking of Ryan Day,
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I saw on today on Twitter that
Chip Kelly is widely expected to get the
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job as the OC for the Seattle
Seahawks the same way that Jeff Hafley left
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Boston College in the debt of might
to be the DC for the Packers,
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and Saban and Harbor are both well. I think Harball is different because I
683
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think he always wanted to go back
to the NFL, but Saban kind of
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said this when he retired. Nil
is here to stay and the transfer portal
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is what it is. Are we
going to see more guys like that?
686
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Are good? Power five coaches take
demotions to be coordinators in the NFL just
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because they don't want to re recruit
their own team four times a year and
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00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:59.440
have to go be salesmen and go
hand and hat to boosters begging them for
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I need to even be recruiting.
Yeah. I think whenever there's any change
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in any industry, you're going to
find folks who have been in that industry
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for a while who go, you
know what, these changes just aren't for
692
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me, And so that's going to
happen now, you know. Let's do
693
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the math here. There are thirty
two NFL teams, which means thirty two
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head coaching gigs, thirty two offensive
coordinator gigs, thirty two defensive coordinator gigs.
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00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:29.880
That's ninety six oc DC and head
coach jobs versus how many FBS college
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head coaching jobs there are the math
still favors college football. But sure you
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in any business, in the business
that I work in, when things started
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to change, and you know what, they need They need folks to blog,
699
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and they need folks to do social
media, and then the nature of
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it is changing and there's podcasts.
There are folks who are like, you
701
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know what, this isn't for me. I just want to do a radio
702
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show. I don't want to embrace
these new things. That's fine in any
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business. When there's change, and
there has been massive change in college football,
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you're gonna have folks who are just
like, you know what, I
705
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don't this isn't for me, And
that's that's okay. Doesn't mean they're wrong.
706
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It also doesn't mean the sport itself
is in jeopardy. And let's be
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honest. Chip Kelly has made no
dent at UCLA that matters. Jeff Hafley's
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at Boston College, which nobody cares
about. Nick Saban was seventy two anyway,
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and so you know, Nick Saban's
different. College football is going to
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be fine without the head coach at
UCLA, and it's going to be fine
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without the head coach at Boston College. Yeah, I agree, I just
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something Saban kind of that stood out
to me that he was dealing with eight
713
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as a seventy two year old man. He specifically kind of said, I'm
714
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dealing with eighteen year olds who are
paid more than me and have agents.
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Sure, yeah, and I and
he was getting frustrated with it and just
716
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said, I'm old, I've got
a good go to go to key West
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and yeah, look, and don't
I don't blame him, I think in
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I could certainly understand someone like him, who has achieved an insane level of
719
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success, who to a degree,
doesn't need this going. You know what,
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these changes at this stage of my
career, at this stage of my
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life, these changes just aren't for
me. I don't begrudge anybody that.
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Change is not for everybody. Change
is going to make people uncomfortable. College
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football is changing dramatically, and so
yeah, I could certainly see a guy
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like Chip Kelly go. You know
what, I got options. I can
725
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go be an offensive coordinator in the
NFL. I don't have to have my
726
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.440
success depend on whether I can beg
a nineteen year old kid to stay,
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or whether we can come up with
money to get a nineteen year old kid
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to stay, or come to UCLA. I don't begrudge and I am as
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pro nil as anybody. I could
certainly understand in any business when there's major
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change, there being people who are
like, you know what, these changes
731
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just aren't for me, And I've
got other options, so I'm going to
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go pursue them. Yeah, And
I don't even group Harball on that,
733
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because I think Carball, even when
he went to Michigan, I think he
734
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always wanted to go back to the
NFL at some point. Yeah, I
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mean I think I think with Hardball, there's a couple of different things and
736
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felt like this was always a possibility. Look, he's interviewed with NFL teams
737
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before. Now you add to it
the the off field stuff, the scandal,
738
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and it certainly feels like, you
know, for a lot of folks,
739
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hey, he he cheated, he
got away with it. Now he's
740
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:22.679
going to get caught. He's going
to bounce. But look, it's not
741
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like this offseason represented his first flirtation
with the NFL since becoming the head coach
742
00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:30.559
in Michigan. I appreciate the phone
call, Sam, thanks so much.
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Yeah. Look, I mean,
I in any in any business, you're
744
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:37.679
going to find people who are like, you know what, just I'm good.
745
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:43.719
This isn't for me. I'm sure
there are there are successful college football
746
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:49.039
coaches who go, I just the
way this sport is changing, I'm good,
747
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:52.880
It's it's not for me. But
I think a couple of things here.
748
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.679
First of all, the money in
college football is getting really, really,
749
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:01.800
really good. Second, college football
can still provide a chance for a
750
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:06.400
coach to use it as a launching
off point if they want to go coach
751
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:12.079
in the NFL. Second, there
are fewer than one hundred NFL head coach
752
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:16.280
and coordinator jobs available. Now,
you could still be on a staff and
753
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:22.159
be a position coach or something like
that. I also believe this man,
754
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:28.960
for all the pressure that exists in
college football, as a college head coach,
755
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.880
you have the opportunity to be worshiped
in ways that NFL head coaches,
756
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:39.079
with few exceptions, will ever enjoy. A college football head coach is going
757
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:45.880
to be given more credit for a
program success then maybe an NFL head coach
758
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:51.320
will be given. In the NFL, you got to share it with well,
759
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:55.840
the general manager, the owner.
You often don't have complete control over
760
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:59.960
your roster. Now, college programs, more so than ever, have per
761
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:04.159
and L departments and general managers,
but they work for the coach. The
762
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.480
coach works for the general manager.
In the NFL, these are big,
763
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:13.480
ego competitive people who like credit.
The NFL is salary capped. College football
764
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.719
is not. So you know,
okay, wait a minute, I can.
765
00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:22.480
I can go and for the time
being at least have a player payroll
766
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:27.039
that's greater than anybody else's in the
sport if I could raise the requisite funds.
767
00:58:27.039 --> 00:58:30.960
In the NFL, it doesn't work
that way. But yeah, man,
768
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I'm I'm pro nil and I don't
think nil earning should be capped.
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But I could certainly understand why a
coach would look at what's changing, how
770
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:42.239
it's changing, and go, you
know what, this isn't for me.
771
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:46.159
That's fine, doesn't make you wrong. Like not everything is for everybody.
772
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.920
I've watched it in this industry.
It's changes. Lifelong radio folks were like,
773
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:55.159
you know what, I'm good here, I'm this isn't for me,
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00:58:55.400 --> 00:59:01.400
fine, fine, College foot will
be fine without Ship Kelly and Jeff Halfley.
775
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:05.679
It's a four thirty five, three
seven, four nine fifteen thirty.
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00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.599
I have a lot of bad tendencies, but I'm not a jealous person,
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00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:15.480
which might explain something that we talked
about yesterday. We'll do that and uh,
778
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.519
it's a thought or two on UC
in the Big twelve on ESPN fifteen
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life at kelseyschev dot com. FC
Cincinnati has acquired infielder Pavel Buca from a
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00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:45.360
team in Czechoslovakia from Victoria Pleazan of
the Czech First League via transfer. This
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00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:49.239
according to the team, the team
announced this. I don't know if anybody
784
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:52.599
broke it before the team announced it. If so, my apologies for not
785
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:58.360
giving credit. Bucha joins FC Cincinnati
through the twenty twenty six season, with
786
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:02.840
a club option for twenty twenty seven. Meanwhile, tonight Big East Basketball as
787
01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:09.079
Xavier hosts of Villanova Musketeers of won
five at a seven seven pm. Tonight's
788
01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:15.400
tip off game is live on seven
hundred WLW. Like Xavier, Villanova is
789
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.679
twelve and ten. They broke a
five game Biggies losing streak with a win
790
01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:23.599
over Providence over the weekend. This
is a bit of a weird Villanova team.
791
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:29.320
They have losses to Drexel. They've
been beaten by Saint Joe's fellow Big
792
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:36.159
Five member. They've lost to Penn. They also have victories over Texas Tech
793
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:40.719
by seventeen points. They've beaten Carolina, They've beaten a Memphis team. The
794
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:45.159
bloom has kind of come off that
Memphis squad. They have a win on
795
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:49.880
the road at Kansas State obviously won
the first game against Xavier. A big,
796
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:52.320
big game tonight, pair of twelve
and ten teams each trying to compile
797
01:00:52.360 --> 01:01:00.719
a resume. Pregame at six point
thirty on seven hundred WLW Solomon Willcotts and
798
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:08.000
a doctor coming up at five oh
five. I was talking yesterday about the
799
01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:12.679
tightness of the Big Twelve conference,
and you know, we had another really
800
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:19.039
fun night in that league, like
the roller coaster that is conference play at
801
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.480
the highest level. Look, there
there are elite schools, and elite schools
802
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.800
are you know, on a year
to year basis, well above and beyond
803
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:30.440
everybody else in their in their conference. And Kansas has often been that way
804
01:01:31.199 --> 01:01:34.960
in in the Big Twelve. But
if you know, we'll do it again
805
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.800
today after last night's results, you
look at the Big Twelve standings, you
806
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:42.239
knows, as much as it feels
like, you See is kind of struggling
807
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:47.480
to find its footing in the conference. They have fewer losses than Texas does.
808
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:52.480
They have as many losses as Oklahoma
does, and Oklahoma won last night.
809
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:58.239
They have one fewer loss than Texas
Tech TCU in Kansas. With Houston's
810
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:00.960
win, they're now two and a
half games at a first. Obviously,
811
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:05.199
there's a ton of teams between U
See and Houston. You know, if
812
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:10.719
therese the preseason expectations for me were
fit in and have a chance, Well
813
01:02:10.800 --> 01:02:15.239
they have fit in in the Big
Twelve, and as they get said,
814
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:17.760
for Houston to come to town on
Saturday, they've got a chance. You
815
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:22.199
might argue that they're not going to
make the tournament, and I think that's
816
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.559
fair. And if they do,
let's be honest. Yeah, and maybe
817
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.559
it's playing in the first four in
Dayton, who knows. But you know,
818
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.880
I just I was frustrated with how
they played against West Virginia last week.
819
01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:37.920
I was frustrated with how they let
that lead evaporate. I feel like
820
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:44.000
that loss compelled a lot of people
to take the conversation places that we really
821
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.760
shouldn't have And I don't think I'm
guilty of that, but maybe I am.
822
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:52.039
But man, relative to priests now, expectations do change, like we've
823
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:54.679
talked about it with the rets,
like expectations have changed a year ago.
824
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:58.719
If I would have said twenty twenty
four, we're gonna be doing playoffs or
825
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:00.239
bust, you would have said you're
out of your And yet here we are,
826
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:05.280
and now to a degree, if
they don't make the tournament, it
827
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:07.480
is gonna feel like a bit of
a failure. But I don't know,
828
01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:14.440
man, is if they make it
at nine and nine, right, versus
829
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:16.000
not make it at eight and ten. If they go eight and ten in
830
01:03:16.039 --> 01:03:23.280
the Big twelve, is that really
a failure after they've had a shot for
831
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.960
much of the season to have their
name called on selection Sunday. I don't
832
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:30.679
think so. They have fit in. This is life in a high major
833
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:35.679
league. It's an absolute roller coaster. It is unless you're way out and
834
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:37.960
above and beyond everybody else in the
conference. And nobody in this league is
835
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:42.079
separated itself, and that's probably going
to be the case more often than not.
836
01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:45.719
Now, what you want to do
is be able to schedule tougher non
837
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:50.800
league. You see, frankly didn't
do that this year. Do so well
838
01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:55.039
in the non league that you know
you could absorb your conference losses by having
839
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:59.400
one or none in the non league. And you see, did lose a
840
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.280
pair of games in the non legal, though they're obviously not bad losses.
841
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:05.239
But if I would have said to
you on November seventh, they'll have played
842
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.559
nine games in the conference, they'll
be four and five. They'll have as
843
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:14.519
many losses as BYU, They'll have
as many losses as Kansas State and Oklahoma.
844
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:17.000
They'll have fewer losses than Texas.
Now Texas, a lot of these
845
01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:25.360
schools have played one more game.
They'll be within an arm's length of the
846
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.760
first place in the conference. With
Houston coming to town. You would have
847
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.440
said, I'll take that. If
I would have said, well, we'll
848
01:04:30.440 --> 01:04:32.440
get to the second week of February, still paying attention to things like bubble
849
01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:35.400
Watch and bracketology, you would have
said, hell, yes, so yeah,
850
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:43.159
so far, smashing success, smashing
success. I'm want to elaborate on
851
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:46.519
something we talked about on yesterday's show
regarding the Kansas City Chiefs, who every
852
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:53.159
Bengals fan is rooting against that coming
up in the five o'clock hour. But
853
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:58.719
first, Jack, you're on ESPN
fifteen thirty. How are you Jack?
854
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:08.079
Going on? So your conversation on
nil having a salary cat? Yeah,
855
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:13.079
so talk to me a little bit. What's the thought on no salary cat
856
01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:19.239
for these college athletes who have probably
up to this point zero financial guidance and
857
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:25.920
expertise in getting millions of dollars as
a senior in high school to just put
858
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:29.519
a put a sweatshirt on or put
training clothes on because they only have to
859
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:32.599
play. I believe somebody should be
able to get whatever someone else determines what
860
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:41.000
they're worth. Now, I do
agree to an extent inil with what it
861
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:44.519
was meant. I agree with you
there for what and I always meant to
862
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:50.519
be the brand deals the local sandwich
shop that wants to create a Dante Corleone
863
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:55.159
sandwich, give them the money.
But when it comes to the collective,
864
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:59.639
like the collectives that are getting into
play that are completely out of hand right
865
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:03.920
now, like that that's going to
bankrupt these schools and take away what these
866
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:09.559
schools have built has been their backbone
and brand and leave them with one or
867
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:13.039
two sports. When the NCAA evaporates
in six or eight years, Well,
868
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:17.320
what's wrong with the NCAA operating well, because then it takes away your favorite
869
01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:24.360
four year sports like track and swimming, diving, golf, tennis. All
870
01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:29.400
those sports have no funding now because
they don't have you know, the rest
871
01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:32.000
of the support of the program in
the athletic department? Did NIL change that
872
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:38.440
it's going to because how do you
tap boosters for more money than you already
873
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:44.679
are for NIL when they're already coming
to you to support scholarships and your facilities
874
01:06:44.679 --> 01:06:46.559
to get higher level recruits in.
It's a fair question, and I don't
875
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.480
want those sports to go away,
But I don't know that boosters having more
876
01:06:50.519 --> 01:06:54.960
of an interest in men's basketball and
football is a new thing. I mean,
877
01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:58.400
that's that's that's been the thing for
a while. That's why that's why
878
01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.320
Olympic sports and many programs have gone
away. But I don't blame NIL and
879
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:08.519
NIL collectives for that. I think
it's going to be a contributing factor,
880
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:13.400
and I mean, watch it happen. There's a reason the SEC and the
881
01:07:13.400 --> 01:07:16.400
Big ten are already jointed in creating
their joint agreement. They're trying to figure
882
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:20.159
away what it's going to look like
in seven years when these TV contracts go
883
01:07:20.320 --> 01:07:26.039
up and schools are fighting for money
again and they're ultimately going to bow out.
884
01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:29.800
Wait a minute, you talk about
Okay, but you talk about like
885
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:32.119
these TV contracts keep going up,
which is true, right, the TV
886
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:36.960
contracts keep going up, which means
each school keeps getting more and more TV
887
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:43.679
money. Correct correct? Okay,
Well, then why don't those schools put
888
01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:45.840
the money toward the programs that you're
so concerned about? Why is it on
889
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:51.039
the nil collectives to fund them?
Because now they have to also add more
890
01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:57.079
employees, and they have to create
partnership deals with marketing agencies that cost them
891
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.519
money out of their pocket and have
to spend more to make more money,
892
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:02.920
and in turn, it's not going
to those small programs. They'll tell you
893
01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.400
it is every day of the week. But I'm sure your assistant coaches on
894
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:11.480
the Olympic sport level are still making
less than five dollars an hour. Well
895
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:14.360
I don't know what they're making,
and I'm gonna guess it's not five dollars
896
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:17.000
an hour. But but but but
again, like all right, if if
897
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:20.840
if if a school on an annual
basis is going to start to get more
898
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:26.439
money from traditional media deals. It
isn't it on the school to fund those
899
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:30.439
programs and and if they don't,
that's on the school decision makers. It's
900
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:33.680
it's on the the people who control
where the money goes and and and not
901
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:41.039
the fault of of collectives. It's
it's all going to come back to play.
902
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:44.960
It's it's it's the starting point.
It's it's the first pitch of it
903
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:46.800
all. You have to get to
the ninth inning at some point in the
904
01:08:46.840 --> 01:08:49.960
game. And I think the first
pitch is going to be thrown by these
905
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:54.239
the nil changes. Yeah, but
that's all I have to say on it
906
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:56.319
all, right, Jack, thank
you. I just I mean, you
907
01:08:56.359 --> 01:09:00.119
know, I do not want those
those programs to go away. And I
908
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:01.880
you know, I look at I
think it's fair to say, with very
909
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:08.079
few exceptions, a soccer player or
a track star is not going to have
910
01:09:08.119 --> 01:09:13.119
the nil possibilities that a football player, men's or even women's basketball player would.
911
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:15.479
But you know that's just not every
football player is going to have the
912
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:23.000
same nil possibilities as other guys on
the football team, just how it is
913
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:28.800
how it is in life. But
if we're going to you know, look,
914
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:32.079
with the pandemic, a lot of
schools use that as a reason to
915
01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:39.319
punt non revenue programs. Stanford famously
did so, UC dropped men's soccer,
916
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:43.520
and that's unfortunate. I hate it. I hate it because for a lot
917
01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:49.560
of different reasons. But these things
were happening already, and schools were choosing
918
01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:59.680
to pull funding from certain sports already
before nil collectives became a part of our
919
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:05.439
reality. And you know, I
understand schools and conferences and to a degree,
920
01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:10.359
the n CULA, they want to
figure out ways to rein in collectives.
921
01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:14.079
But but again, like for me, I'm just at a baseline level
922
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:19.000
whenever, whenever capping what someone can
earn comes up, just philosophically speaking,
923
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:24.640
I'm opposed to it. I don't
believe there should be a maximum salary in
924
01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.439
the NBA. By the way,
if you hate super teams, you agree
925
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:31.039
with me, because the maximum salary
is the number one reason why we've had
926
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:38.760
super teams, a reason there being
if if the money is the same everywhere,
927
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:41.359
cool, then I'm gonna go play
with my buddies. I'm gonna prioritize
928
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:44.600
winning. I'm gonna go to the
best run organizations. If you don't want
929
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:46.560
super teams, you don't want maximum
salaries, and you don't want a salary
930
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:51.640
cap, a salary caps. We've
been hoodwinked into thinking that salary caps are
931
01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:57.960
designed to create parity and competition.
In reality, they were created to drive
932
01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.600
down salaries. Nobody wants to admit
that, but that's the case. I'm
933
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.720
opposed to such things. I just
don't as a general rule, I don't
934
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:13.640
believe in anything that caps what anybody
can earn just in life. In life,
935
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:19.680
I don't believe there being implementations that
restrict what anybody can get. And
936
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:24.039
I apply that to real life.
I apply that to professional sports. I
937
01:11:24.039 --> 01:11:30.560
applied to college sports. I certainly
do understand what the fallout from allowing NIL
938
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:36.560
to go down that road does.
It makes it less likely that say a
939
01:11:36.600 --> 01:11:41.159
school like u SE could compete with
a school like Ohio State. I say
940
01:11:41.199 --> 01:11:44.319
that as a lifelong, die hard
bear Cat fan, I understand that.
941
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:53.119
But what I'm just amused by.
Inequities in college sports are not new.
942
01:11:56.119 --> 01:12:00.000
Nobody was complaining about inequities in college
sports when one school's were recruiting budget was
943
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:05.079
so much more than a conference peer
or when one school decided we can fund
944
01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:10.840
assistant coach pulls so much more that
allows us to keep our coaches when this
945
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:15.520
school can't. You know, every
time there is a new media deal in
946
01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:20.479
college sports, fans of certain schools
will do happy dances because their school is
947
01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:24.079
going to get a huge chunk of
that money. That's a lot of money
948
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:29.319
that separates themselves from schools that aren't
getting that money. So suddenly we're really
949
01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:32.119
concerned about inequities in college sports because
the players are getting their fair share.
950
01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:36.359
And again, like generally speaking,
I just yeah, have a hard time
951
01:12:36.399 --> 01:12:41.960
convincing me that it's right to restrict
what anybody can earn. So I know
952
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.239
there's a lot of folks that go, look, there have to be guardrails.
953
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:45.840
We've got to put caps on what
the kids can get. And you
954
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:49.479
know, we can't let this go
out of control. I don't know,
955
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.920
man, if a normal college student
can earn whatever they can earn on the
956
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.520
open market, then a college athlete
should be able to do the same.
957
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.000
I'm sorry, I know that doesn't
mesh with wanting an equal playing field in
958
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:06.159
sports. It's just the way that
I'm wired. Don't believe in maximum salaries.
959
01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:12.359
Don't believe in restricting what anybody can
get, whether we're talking about people
960
01:13:12.359 --> 01:13:15.199
who make eight nine figures or people
who are making five figures. I just
961
01:13:15.239 --> 01:13:19.840
don't. But I'm just I'm really
amused by the suggestion that, well,
962
01:13:19.960 --> 01:13:25.840
this is getting out of control and
we were creating haves and have nots in
963
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:30.279
college basketball and college football because of
NIO. We have been there for decades
964
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:35.479
and nobody really seemed to care.
Ten minutes away from breaking sports news,
965
01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:41.119
what is that we have? News? Breaking news? All right? Former
966
01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:45.960
Alabama head coach Nick Saban will be
joining the Castle College Game Day on ESPN
967
01:13:45.680 --> 01:13:48.720
Nick same day? Is Nick Nick
Saban's going to join college Game Day on
968
01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:53.000
a permanent basis? Yes, By
the way, what was that that you
969
01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:56.000
just played? Where did that come
from? I haven't heard that guy's voice
970
01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:00.000
in like fifteen years. That's not
in our system. That's the old sports
971
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.920
animal guy, Sports animal. Nick
Saban's going to be on the desk at
972
01:14:02.920 --> 01:14:06.479
college game Day? Yes, next
season? Is he replacing like Lee Corso
973
01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:10.640
is? He's not replacing anybody who
will be alongside Reeve Davis, Lee Corso,
974
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:13.800
Herb Street, Desmond Howard and Pat
McAfee. I bet you he'll be
975
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.119
awesome. I bet you Nick Saban
will be awesome at that good deal.
976
01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.079
All right, Nick Saban's going to
be on college game Day and you get
977
01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:24.279
a little preview because you will appear
on a NFL draft and SEC media days.
978
01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:26.800
You know, he's done NFL draft
stuff before, and he's been quite
979
01:14:26.840 --> 01:14:30.000
good. He's been on the NFL
Draft and at least talked about like his
980
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:33.920
guys, Alabama guys, and he's
been quite good. He was on one
981
01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:38.760
of the very few years prior to
the Playoff that the Crimson Tide weren't playing
982
01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:43.560
for a championship. I want to
say it was the Florida State Auburn year.
983
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:47.439
He did pregame and post game.
He was terrific. All Right,
984
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.359
Nick Saban on the desk of college
game Day this year. I want to
985
01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:56.680
see him do like the the headwear, the headwear pick like Lee Corso does.
986
01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.079
That's what I want to see me. And game day first stop is
987
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:03.760
in Alabama. Probably it'll be cool
when he goes to like SEC places where
988
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:09.319
they don't like him. I look
forward to that. We're having Solomon Wilcott's
989
01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:13.560
on and then a doctor Sally for
nine minutes, A doctor for one coming
990
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.319
up at five oh five on ESPN
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station. All right,
991
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:19.479
we got a couple of minutes away
from five o'clock. Mike, go
992
01:15:21.880 --> 01:15:28.039
Tom, Thank you so much for
the scrambled bgg recipe. Really appreciate that
993
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:31.039
I sent Mike my scrambled egg recipe
because I make the greatest scrambled eggs ever.
994
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:35.520
I'm going to try him tonight.
I'm really excited. Absolutely good luck.
995
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:43.680
Hey, I kind of miss your
your quasi radio row special guests the
996
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:47.119
Ice Chest. Uh. That was
some of the best radio I've ever heard
997
01:15:47.159 --> 01:15:53.800
since Jim Rome. I think it
was some of the worst. That great.
998
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:57.840
Oh no, you had the improv
everything. Man, that was good,
999
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:00.880
and I'm sure you weren't too happy
about it, and it was I
1000
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:02.680
thought you did an hell old job. It was Funcho. If it was
1001
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:11.119
up to me, those shows would
be permanently deleted from our archives. Hey
1002
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:16.279
do you think do you really think
anybody's going to beat Yukon? Well,
1003
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:20.960
it's the NCAA Tournament. I mean, yeah, no, of course it
1004
01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:24.439
could happen. It's a one game, it's not a best of seven,
1005
01:16:24.520 --> 01:16:28.039
not the best of five. You
know, did anybody have San Diego State
1006
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.920
in the National Championship Game prior to
last year? No? So I mean
1007
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.359
can if you say U con versus
the field, I'm taking the field every
1008
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:38.520
single time. But I would say
that about any team in any year.
1009
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:44.560
Yeah, but they clearly do look
like an offensive machine and they cruise their
1010
01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:47.439
defense. You know, I think
about back to the early eighties when Georgetown
1011
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:51.680
was so prohibitive favored against Villanova.
They come out and shoot seventy percent,
1012
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:56.439
a taking rowling, Nason Neo goes
home with the rank. And I believe
1013
01:16:56.479 --> 01:17:00.479
it was a year earlier, the
year after Jimmy Volve, we had a
1014
01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:05.760
big dogs to the Houston race horses
and beat them with that crazy shot by
1015
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:10.560
Wittenberg. So let's hope. So
but boy, this is one of the
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01:17:10.560 --> 01:17:13.960
most wide open fields you've ever had, I think, don't you. Yeah.
1017
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.520
I feel like that that second tier
of teams is very very big,
1018
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:23.279
right, Like like I think most
of us all season along have put Connecticut
1019
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:28.159
and Purdue up here. We've often
wanted to include Houston. I still wheel,
1020
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:34.199
still will and then that second wrong, that second tier feels really really
1021
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:40.399
really big, really really really big, But Mike, I gotta hit the
1022
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:43.800
top of the air man, I
got a run. I Connecticut's the best
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01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:48.640
team that I've watched this season.
But if if once, once the field
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01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:54.319
is whittled to sixty four, I'll
take sixty three teams, you take Yukon.
1025
01:17:54.359 --> 01:17:59.399
I'll feel good about my chances because, well, basic math, our
1026
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.680
buddies Sawman Wilcotts is going to join. He's out there at Las Vegas at
1027
01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:06.760
Radio Row where we are not because
the Bengals aren't there. How can we
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01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.600
get to New Orleans next season with
the Bengals. We'll ask Sally. Next
1029
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:20.359
five o'clock ESPN, fifteen thirty Cincinnati
Sports Station Sports. I'm Christine Leacy.
1030
01:18:20.399 --> 01:18:25.439
The NBA leading Celtics picking up some
big man death acquired Xavier Tillman from Memphis
1031
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:29.000
for two second round picks. Tilman, a strong defensive presence inside, will
1032
01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:32.479
serve as a complimentary option for coach
Joe Missoula Warriors and seventy six Ers start
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01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:38.279
off tonight's NBA doubleheaders seven thirty Eastern
ESPN, Then the Pelicans visit the Clippers.
1034
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:43.279
Big things could be on the horizon
for West leading La explains ESPN NBA
1035
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:46.319
reporter Brian Windhors So you go down
and look at their guys all the way
1036
01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:50.239
down to seven, eight nine.
They rebound, they defend, they share
1037
01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:55.079
the ball, they play every games, and I like the Clippers to hold
1038
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:58.159
on to this number one seed if
they're healthy. I like them to have
1039
01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:01.600
home court advantage and their every year
at crypto dot com arena. Frian Windhorse
1040
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:05.439
on First Take. Ohio Steak coach
Ryan Day confirmed he's giving up offensive play
1041
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:10.119
calling for the twenty twenty four season. He'd been involved with the Buckeyes play
1042
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:14.439
calling since twenty seventeen. Tiger Woods
announced on social media he'll play in next
1043
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:17.520
week genesi's Invitational. He'll be playing
as a host at his first competitive rounds
1044
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:21.039
of the year. Woods has played
in just one solo event since withdrawing from
1045
01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:28.760
the twenty twenty three Masters. He
answer Residents of the World staff Chris Kennedy
1046
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:31.279
coming on Thursday. The Great Ima
Smith joins us at nine to fifteen to
1047
01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:35.840
talk all things super Bowl and another
Cowboys failure. It's unsportsman like six am
1048
01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:43.680
Eastern right here on ESPN Radio,
ESPN two and ESPNU. All right,
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01:19:43.720 --> 01:19:46.760
it's six after five ESPN fifteen thirty. My name is Maleger. Glad that
1050
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:51.840
you are with us. I'm excited
to do this. We've done this the
1051
01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:56.119
last few year. We had Solomon
Wilcott's with us. Two years ago when
1052
01:19:56.159 --> 01:20:00.960
we were broadcasting from Los Angeles because
the Bengals we're in the Super Bowl,
1053
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:04.039
and Sally was nice enough to join
us. And then uh, last year,
1054
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:06.720
well, the Super Bowl was in
Arizona. We thought we were going
1055
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:11.399
to be back, and then the
well, the Bengals didn't win, and
1056
01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:15.520
so we we couldn't broadcast from Arizona. And then this year we held out
1057
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.039
hope, you know what, will
broadcast from Vegas. That'll be cool and
1058
01:20:17.079 --> 01:20:20.000
we'll get Sally on with us and
it to be neat, and then well,
1059
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:23.920
the Bengals didn't there, So I'm
holding out hope we can have this
1060
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:29.479
conversation in person in New Orleans next
year. Nonetheless, he is with us
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01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:33.359
courtesy of a really great company that
we're going to talk a little bit about
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01:20:33.359 --> 01:20:39.600
meoch Orthopedics and the bear implants specifically, and we'll talk about the NFL and
1063
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:42.960
the Bengals and the Super Bowl as
well. Solomon Wilcotts is with us along
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01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:45.039
with doctor Scott Sigmund. It is
good to have you both, gentlemen.
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01:20:45.039 --> 01:20:49.199
How are we doing doing great?
Thanks for having us Mell appreciate you.
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01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:53.560
I appreciate you doing it. So, yeah, you got it. I
1067
01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:57.079
appreciate you both coming on. First
of all, Sally, tell me about
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01:20:57.399 --> 01:21:00.960
your role here with meoch Orthopedics.
Well. As you all know, I
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01:21:01.039 --> 01:21:05.039
tend to try to hang out with
people who help raise my grade when it
1070
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:10.840
comes to understanding sports medicine because we're
always out trying to use our platforms MO
1071
01:21:11.319 --> 01:21:14.920
to help others. And that's why
I partnered with me out Orthopedics, and
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01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:17.600
I brought a good friend with me, doctor Scott Sigmund, to tell people
1073
01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:24.359
about a new innovative treatment for repairing
and healing helping people to recover from aco
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01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:28.119
injury. It's called the Bear implant. And doctor Sigmund, why don't you
1075
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:30.680
tell them a little bit more about
it? Yeah, thanks, Sally,
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01:21:30.680 --> 01:21:33.680
appreciate it. So. One of
the worst three letters you can hear when
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01:21:33.720 --> 01:21:41.079
you walk into an orthopedis office a
cl right devastating injury for athletes from the
1078
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:44.800
professional level all the way down to
high schools as well. And it's been
1079
01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:47.119
a really tough road. We're pretty
good at ACL reconstruction, but it's not
1080
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:49.880
perfect. You know, it hurts, right, We have to take that
1081
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:54.720
kneecap and a piece of tendon that
God put there and we shift it over
1082
01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:58.119
and move it to someplace else.
So the question is what if we could
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01:21:58.159 --> 01:22:00.800
get the body to heal its own
ACL. And that's what we're doing with
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01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:05.359
the mioc bear implant. We literally
will suture your ACL where it's torn,
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01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:10.399
repair it, and then we put
this implant in with your own blood and
1086
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:14.239
believe it or not, your body
can regrow your ACL with all of the
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01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.880
normal tissues like your nerves, blood, vessels, et cetera. This is
1088
01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:23.600
not experimental, it is FDA approved. Over two thousand patients have been implanted
1089
01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:27.600
with this since FDA approval. The
results have really been amazing and it truly
1090
01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.960
is a remarkable innovation and ACL surgery, Yeah, it's something the NFLPA has
1091
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:35.199
has been involved and we all at
some point deal with knee injuries and hopefully
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01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:39.399
it's not an ACL tear, but
obviously this is something that could go a
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01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:43.800
long way toward helping people recover.
Where can people find out more about meoc
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01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:48.520
orthopedics and the Bear Implant. So
the breimplant dot com slash super Bowl again,
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01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:53.720
that's Bear implant dot com slash super
Bowl. You can identify doctors in
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01:22:53.760 --> 01:22:57.399
your local area that are performing the
procedure. You can get more information on
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01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:59.920
this as well. And again I
want to be very clear to the listener,
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01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.119
this is not experimental. This is
an FDA approvement implant where we're having
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01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:10.560
great success. Awesome stuff, very
good Doctor Scott Sigman from a mioc Orthopedics
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01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:13.920
and the Bear Implant. We'll have
more information up on our website at ESPN
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01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:18.279
fifteen thirty com Sally, I wish
I was there with you maybe next year.
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01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:23.399
As the Bengals begin their off season, they've got a long list of
1103
01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:26.479
things to get done. The first
one is to get Joe Burrow healthy.
1104
01:23:26.520 --> 01:23:30.880
What's next on the list. Next
on the list is let's find a right
1105
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:35.039
tackle that can help solidify an offensive
line that still needs to continue to get
1106
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:39.920
better. I think we also need
to make sure that we retain the services
1107
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:44.560
of one Keith Higgins. He means
way too much to our football team to
1108
01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:48.680
allow some other team to integrate him
into their offense and make them great as
1109
01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:54.359
Duke Cobin said he's interested in making
our team better, not other teams better.
1110
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:57.920
I also think that we're going to
need to become more stout at the
1111
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.840
point of attack on our defensive line, particularly if we don't retain DJ Reader
1112
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:05.880
he's expected to hit the free agent
market. We're gonna need somebody in the
1113
01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:10.760
interior portion that the defensive line who
could be what he was, And that's
1114
01:24:10.840 --> 01:24:14.159
asking me a lot. Still think
we need to add another cornerback to the
1115
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:16.479
mix. So look, we got
a lot of work to do right to
1116
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:21.000
become that elite team that we're looking
for, one that can contind and win
1117
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:25.760
a Super Bowl championship. Yeah,
could use help a corner and just need
1118
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:28.880
better overall play in the secondary.
What did you see from DAGs Hill this
1119
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:32.920
year? Oh man, Look,
that's a good player. I thought.
1120
01:24:33.239 --> 01:24:39.000
Listen, he played sparingly his rookie
year, but he played well this year.
1121
01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:42.680
A lot of exposure, right,
so you saw up and down.
1122
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.880
I saw more good than I saw
bad. But listen, he's a second
1123
01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:50.279
year player. There's a lot to
digest in this defense. We knew there
1124
01:24:50.319 --> 01:24:55.520
would be growing pains after we lost
to veteran safeties and Jessic Bates and Von
1125
01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.600
Vale and we went through it.
But I thought Daks continued to play well.
1126
01:24:59.640 --> 01:25:01.760
He made a lot of plays he
can't improve. I think with the
1127
01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:08.359
angles that you take become He's a
consistent tackler in the box, could be
1128
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:12.520
better tackler out in space. I
love him though, I absolutely love him.
1129
01:25:12.520 --> 01:25:15.640
I think he's a good player.
I think another year he'll be even
1130
01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:19.600
better. We've talked a lot about
you know, from an offensive perspective,
1131
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:26.119
Jake Browning performed well. He's not
Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow has his way
1132
01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:30.000
of how he likes run the offense. And then there's what they did successfully
1133
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:34.119
with Jake Browning. How do you
mesh the two? I think, Look,
1134
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:41.039
Joe likes playing from the shot guy. I think I think the team
1135
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:46.960
benefits overall by playing the quarterback under
center. Now, it may not help
1136
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:53.159
Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow may has
his preference, but I think that component
1137
01:25:53.199 --> 01:25:56.199
of being under center it helps the
offensive line. Getting hit in the run
1138
01:25:56.279 --> 01:26:00.920
game helped the offensive line in terms
of through play action. It helps them
1139
01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:05.760
to be better pass protectors. We
already know that play action and a good
1140
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:13.520
ball handling with quarterback under center helps
gret greater separation for wide receivers downfield.
1141
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:18.079
It's the same offense that San Francisco
forty nine Ers use at a great level,
1142
01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:23.159
particularly where the quarterback who's drafting the
seventh round by at Brock Party,
1143
01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:29.560
That offense under center, with motions
and shifts gets greater separation for their receivers
1144
01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:32.840
by far in any other team in
the league. So we're not asking them
1145
01:26:32.840 --> 01:26:36.000
to be the forty nine ers,
but you're saying, how can the offense
1146
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:41.680
get better with Joe Burrow operating a
little bit more under center? I think
1147
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:45.800
when he's playing, the Bengals tend
to have more plays from shotgun than any
1148
01:26:45.840 --> 01:26:49.159
other offense in the league. All
we're saying is, how about adopting maybe
1149
01:26:49.159 --> 01:26:53.560
a little bit more under center,
a little more fifty to fifty to help
1150
01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:57.520
the run game, to help in
pass protection, and help receivers get separation
1151
01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.640
down the field. Yeah, we're
we're on the same page there. Beyond
1152
01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:04.319
the obvious that everybody's going to talk
about this week, give me the one
1153
01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:09.039
thing that's most interesting about Sunday's matchup
that's going to go a long way toward
1154
01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:14.359
determining who wins. You know what, this offseason, we're gonna be talking
1155
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:18.359
about running backs aren't worth of value. You don't hear people talking about that
1156
01:27:18.439 --> 01:27:23.760
now at the most critical time of
the year, right when championships are to
1157
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:28.359
be one, when playoffs undree may
the people need to ruin to go to
1158
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.039
the next level. Everybody know they
better bring a run game, and everybody
1159
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:35.119
knows they better bring their run defense
famous to in this game, the forty
1160
01:27:35.239 --> 01:27:39.720
nine ers have been dashed in the
run game, where they've given up almost
1161
01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:43.600
seventy yards more per game. In
the postseason, you saw the Green Bay
1162
01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:45.800
Packers run right through them and they
had to come from behind to win that
1163
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:49.560
game. You saw the Detroit Lions
get almost one hundred and fifty yards lessing
1164
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:55.279
by halftime, three rushing touchdowns in
the first half, and they had to
1165
01:27:55.279 --> 01:28:00.000
come from behind and win that game. And so if Isaiah periceco and they
1166
01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:01.479
the Chiefs can get the run game
going, which is what they've done really
1167
01:28:01.520 --> 01:28:05.880
well in the second half stretch of
the season, they can really be good
1168
01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:10.640
running the ball. How good can
Pat Mahons be after that? So that's
1169
01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:14.039
gonna be one of the critical points. And then if you are the forty
1170
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:18.439
nine ers getting Christian McCaffrey going within
this offense, both running it and catching
1171
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:21.800
it. What that does? It
gets you one on one opportunities with George
1172
01:28:21.840 --> 01:28:27.039
Kittle, It gets you one on
one opportunities with Deebo Samuel and then with
1173
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:31.359
Brandon Ayu. I think both offenses
come in saying establishing the run game at
1174
01:28:31.399 --> 01:28:35.880
least some rhythm and some balance helps
to open up the rest of the offense.
1175
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:42.239
The Great Solomon Wilcotts with us on
behalf on behalf of mioc Orthopedics,
1176
01:28:42.319 --> 01:28:45.800
learn more about the bear implanet mioc
ortho dot com. Awesome to have you
1177
01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:49.560
enjoyed the rest of the week.
Thank you so much, guys Mojo,
1178
01:28:51.239 --> 01:28:56.800
there you go. Awesome stuff again, mioc ortho dot com. Good stuff
1179
01:28:56.840 --> 01:29:00.600
there. It is sixteen minutes after
five o'clock. We were asked the plug
1180
01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:03.079
first, and then I butchered the
name of the thing we were plugging.
1181
01:29:09.239 --> 01:29:13.479
I was so bad at this.
It is sixteen after five o'clock, five
1182
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:26.439
point three, seven thirty me.
So it's sometimes it really is a wonder
1183
01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:30.560
they keep bringing me back to do
this. It is remarkable, but but
1184
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:32.800
they do. And so we'll we'll
continue. I want to spend a few
1185
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:38.720
minutes on a clip we sent out
yesterday thanks to our guy Taren on ESPN
1186
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:46.079
fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station Cincinnati's fifteen. You're listening, and that's nice of
1187
01:29:46.119 --> 01:29:51.960
you. Meet me Och the bear, the bear in the bear implant.
1188
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:58.439
Like at the last minute, I
got any a text from the dude in
1189
01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:01.439
charge of that thing and if we
could do the plug first. So we
1190
01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:05.039
did it, and we got it
out of the way. Many many,
1191
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:11.600
many years ago, we had Scott
Van Pelt on this show on behalf of
1192
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:16.880
a national pizza chain that I'm not
being paid to mention, and so like
1193
01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:21.680
Scot, I think Scott Van Pelt
is the greatest broadcaster working in America today.
1194
01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:26.880
I believe that I watch his show
Everything It's late at night. That
1195
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:29.920
is the sports center of record in
this country as far as I'm concerned.
1196
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.479
Bad beats, great interviews, Stanford
Steve. I'm not really sure what he
1197
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:39.399
does, but but I love that
show. Scott Van Pelt the greatest broadcaster
1198
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:45.119
working in the United States. So
many years ago, get a thing,
1199
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.439
do you want to have Scott Van
Pelt on? And I go, uh,
1200
01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:51.000
yeah, of course, what time, and it was like four o'clock.
1201
01:30:53.159 --> 01:30:57.239
Okay, what's the hook. Well, he's he's joining you on behalf
1202
01:30:57.319 --> 01:31:04.439
of a national pizza chain. Okay. So, uh, Typically those interviews,
1203
01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:08.840
you know, you do the plug
at the end. For whatever reason,
1204
01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:13.199
I decided to do the plug at
the beginning. Scott Van Pelt,
1205
01:31:13.319 --> 01:31:16.920
all right, first tell us about
the national pizza chain that you're representing,
1206
01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:24.560
and he does his spiel and then
we do the interview. And after the
1207
01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:28.199
plug for the national Pizza chain,
he was I don't remember what we talked
1208
01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:30.399
about, but he's Scott van Pelt. He's awesome like that. I listened
1209
01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:32.680
to that guy talk about anything.
You talk about somebody who just sounds like
1210
01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:36.640
they genuinely love sports and love what
they do. So the interview was awesome.
1211
01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:41.159
And at the end of it,
this broadcaster whose work I admire so
1212
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.159
much, who seems like, you
know, a genuinely good, down to
1213
01:31:44.199 --> 01:31:47.800
earth guy, says something along the
lines of, by the way, terrific
1214
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:51.439
job getting that plug out of the
way. And I don't know why I
1215
01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:59.119
took that as such a big compliment. Me miach the bear implant go there
1216
01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:04.600
now, learn all about it.
Paul Danner Junior was with us yesterday from
1217
01:32:04.640 --> 01:32:10.600
the Athletic and if you missed that
hour of broadcasting fun, you can find
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01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:14.560
it on the iHeartRadio app service of
long Nex Sports Grill, Stay Laid,
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01:32:14.600 --> 01:32:18.479
Come Often. So Paul was with
us and we talked, you know,
1220
01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:23.119
about a few different Bengals issues,
and then my friend Arn what he does
1221
01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:28.279
part of his job is we he'll
create clips, little one or two minute
1222
01:32:28.319 --> 01:32:31.960
long video clips for us to promote
the show and promote listening to the podcast,
1223
01:32:32.800 --> 01:32:38.039
and he does a very good job
with it. So I am certainly
1224
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:40.640
well aware of the fact that there
will be folks who see the clip and
1225
01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:44.199
then that's all they see. And
so the clip that Arren chose yesterday I
1226
01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:46.159
thought was a good clip. I'm
glad he chose it because we were talking
1227
01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:50.159
about the Chiefs. And I do
this show. As you probably know from
1228
01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:57.640
a fans perspective, I'm a lifelong
Bengals fan. Lifelong Bengals fan, So
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01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:00.399
I love this job because I get
a chance to talk about team that I
1230
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:03.920
genuinely care about, including the Bengals. And I was talking with Paul yesterday
1231
01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.720
and the clip that went viral was, you know, like as a Bengals
1232
01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:13.039
fan, I have a hard time
getting worked up over the Chiefs. They
1233
01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:18.680
just they just don't bother me that
much. And I know, like I'm
1234
01:33:18.760 --> 01:33:25.319
in the not only am I in
the minority, I'm by myself. I'm
1235
01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:29.279
in as small a minority as you
can have. I'm solo. I'm alone.
1236
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:34.319
I'm what I was for most of
my teen years by flying solo man
1237
01:33:38.199 --> 01:33:41.039
and so I Paul and I were
talking about this the clip went viral.
1238
01:33:41.119 --> 01:33:45.399
I got some pushback. First of
all, like, I think this is
1239
01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:48.600
among the reasons why gambling is fun, or legal sports gambling is fun.
1240
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:53.640
I love legal sports gambling. I'm
not wagering insane amounts of money. I'm
1241
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:57.399
not doing so irresponsibly. I love
talking. I'll be honest with you.
1242
01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:00.520
I love the language of sports gambling, and I'm love talking about sports gambling
1243
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:03.720
more than I actually love gambling.
But I do like to wager, so
1244
01:34:04.479 --> 01:34:09.079
if I don't have a team involved, I root for my wager. And
1245
01:34:09.239 --> 01:34:12.399
I think that's what makes sports wagering, if you're responsible about it, a
1246
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:15.479
lot of fun. Like all right, if there's no team to root for,
1247
01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:17.239
and you do see an angle and
you make a wager. Now,
1248
01:34:17.279 --> 01:34:21.079
you got a team to root for, and you know you should. Usually,
1249
01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:25.319
though I don't often follow this advice, you should, you should.
1250
01:34:25.439 --> 01:34:29.840
You should make your wagers with no
real emotion attached. And so for the
1251
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.479
game on Sunday, I got Kansas
City in the points, I root for
1252
01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:36.600
my wagers first. But Mo,
you're a Bengals fan, you're rooting for
1253
01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:42.640
the Chiefs. Like. To me, dislike and hatred, maybe more than
1254
01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:48.880
anything in life, are based on
jealousy, right, I think that's I
1255
01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:58.920
think the root of most intense dislike
is jealousy. And as I've gotten older,
1256
01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:08.279
I have, for the most part, successfully developed an ability to not
1257
01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:14.560
be jealous of anything or anybody I
find. I see really successful people,
1258
01:35:14.920 --> 01:35:20.159
I think they're to be celebrated.
I see people in our industry that have
1259
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:26.199
achieved things that I can only aspire
to. I'm happy for them. They
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01:35:26.239 --> 01:35:30.960
deserve it. I've lost I think
I used to have it. I've lost,
1261
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:35.279
for the most part, the jealousy
gene because I've tried, over the
1262
01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:41.319
course of a certain amount of years
to develop personal security. I'm secure with
1263
01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:45.880
myself, right. I don't love
everything about myself, but I'm a secure
1264
01:35:45.960 --> 01:35:48.279
person. I have a job.
I like I have a family. I
1265
01:35:48.399 --> 01:35:53.960
like I have friends. I like
I like how my life operates. I
1266
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:57.920
like what I do. I've thrown
away things that I don't care about.
1267
01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:02.159
Like I'm a secure person. I
think this can apply to being a sports
1268
01:36:02.199 --> 01:36:08.680
fan. So as a Bengals fan, I'm really secure. I wish they
1269
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:13.359
were coming off consecutive World championships.
They came this close. They're not.
1270
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:16.800
But I'm secure, man, I'm
secure with the state of the franchise,
1271
01:36:17.680 --> 01:36:24.039
how it's currently being run. I
don't love everything. Sally and the doctor
1272
01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:27.279
from the implant company, they're right, like, Bengal's got some work to
1273
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:32.159
do this all season, but they've
got a program that's worked. They have
1274
01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:39.720
a roster with good assets. They've
got an MVP caliber quarterback. The Kansas
1275
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:43.399
City Chiefs are in their fourth Super
Bowl in five years. Hell yeah,
1276
01:36:43.439 --> 01:36:46.359
man, I only wish the Bengals
could do that. We'll be lucky if
1277
01:36:46.399 --> 01:36:50.279
the Bengals enjoy that kind of run. But I also feel like the Bengals
1278
01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:55.600
have a seat at the table because
of Joe Burrow. And I believe this,
1279
01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:01.159
and I may be proven wrong one
day, that if Joe Burrow spends
1280
01:37:01.199 --> 01:37:09.000
all of his prime years in Cincinnati
and avoids a catastrophic injury. They're going
1281
01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:12.239
to win a championship. Maybe only
one, but they're going to win a
1282
01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:18.119
championship. And that belief, as
misguided as you might argue it is,
1283
01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:24.640
keeps me from being jealous of the
Chiefs, keeps me from envy, keeps
1284
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:29.439
me from disliking them. I don't
find anything necessarily loathsome about that team.
1285
01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:31.920
You know, like Patrick Mahomes and
Andy Reid. They were whining after that
1286
01:37:31.960 --> 01:37:36.000
Buffalo game in the regular season.
Oh, I didn't like that. By
1287
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:40.079
and large, I don't know.
Andy Reid seems like an okay guy.
1288
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.159
Patrick Mahomes seems like an okay guy. And I don't get caught up and
1289
01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:46.359
stuff like well his wife don't.
I don't know anything about his wife.
1290
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:50.279
I don't care. I just maybe
you do. And that's why you dislike
1291
01:37:50.319 --> 01:37:56.159
the Chiefs. I just I viewed
the Chiefs as Cincinnati Bengals equals Peers.
1292
01:37:56.359 --> 01:37:59.319
Burrow has beaten the Chiefs. The
Bengals have beaten the Chiefs in the postseason
1293
01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:03.800
at arrowhe They've developed a really good
rivalry. With rivalry becomes some level of
1294
01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:10.920
distaste but also comes some level of
respect. I'm also as a fan just
1295
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:15.039
really secure, like I feel like
the Bengals are in a pretty good place.
1296
01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:18.359
It's gonna be challenging because you know, Burrow making the coin that he's
1297
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:23.000
going to be making, will over
the course of time, change how they
1298
01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:29.840
build the roster. But the people
who I know who are driven by jealousy,
1299
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:34.119
I find to be the most insecure, the most insecure with themselves.
1300
01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:39.079
You're not wrapped up in what someone
is doing, or what someone is getting,
1301
01:38:39.560 --> 01:38:43.399
or how lucky someone is. If
you're really comfortable with your station in
1302
01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:45.880
life. And if you're not comfortable
with your station in life, you should
1303
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:49.680
change it. And I used to
not be wired that way personally, and
1304
01:38:49.720 --> 01:38:53.600
I used to not really be wired
that way as a sports fan. Now
1305
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:57.680
you know, it's one thing if
you don't believe in your team, if
1306
01:38:57.720 --> 01:39:00.600
you don't think your team's got the
right guy or the right to the right
1307
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:03.079
quarterback of the roster, sting,
so the owner's awful. Plenty of times
1308
01:39:03.119 --> 01:39:06.119
as a Bengals fan, I have
felt that way. Right now, it's
1309
01:39:06.439 --> 01:39:10.880
hard for me to really be worked
into a lather over another team. And
1310
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:14.079
I don't get caught. I don't
know any Chiefs fans. I know,
1311
01:39:14.239 --> 01:39:17.119
Actually, I know one dude that
I interact with occasionally on social media.
1312
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:20.720
He seems like an okay guy.
I go on the radio in Kansas City.
1313
01:39:20.720 --> 01:39:26.520
It's fun. Like, I just
I'm not a Chiefs fan. Had
1314
01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:30.319
they lost in the postseason, it
really wouldn't have bothered me. But I
1315
01:39:30.840 --> 01:39:36.600
just I struggle to convince myself that
I should hate them, Like they lost
1316
01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:40.079
to him in the postseason last year, and like, all right, great
1317
01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:44.720
game. The Bengals should have been
better hosted that game. Maybe things go
1318
01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:47.720
down differently. Burrow should be better
in the fourth quarter, which he wasn't.
1319
01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:55.039
Don't punt the ball right to their
return guy. So yeah, I
1320
01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:57.079
put that out there on social media, and we talked about it on the
1321
01:39:57.079 --> 01:39:59.920
show yesterday, and you know,
and rub some people the wrong way.
1322
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:04.920
I'm just as a person, I've
tried less and less to be guided by
1323
01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:09.199
jealousy. But as a Bengals fan, I think it's really hard to be
1324
01:40:09.279 --> 01:40:14.119
jealous. I do wish Burrough already
had one. I do wish the Bengals
1325
01:40:14.399 --> 01:40:18.319
were in Kansas City's spot, not
just playing for a championship, but playing
1326
01:40:18.359 --> 01:40:25.239
for their third title within five years, I wish, but I just I
1327
01:40:25.279 --> 01:40:28.079
feel like their time is gonna come, and what it does, it's probably
1328
01:40:28.119 --> 01:40:30.359
gonna come at the expense of the
Kansas City Chiefs five, six, seven,
1329
01:40:30.399 --> 01:40:33.000
eight years from now. You could
take this and laugh at me for
1330
01:40:33.039 --> 01:40:35.880
it, and I'm not saying that. Look, they're in a position no
1331
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:39.239
matter what, as long as Burrow
comes back, that they're gonna win the
1332
01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:43.359
whole thing next year. But when
they drafted him number one, the reason
1333
01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:45.760
why I was excited. As bad
as the Bengals were, and they were
1334
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:49.319
terrible before they got Joe Burrow,
they were terrible in Burrow's first year,
1335
01:40:49.840 --> 01:40:54.279
But the reason why I and so
many other Bengals fans were excited was we
1336
01:40:54.359 --> 01:40:57.000
believe, with that guy, you
can win the whole thing. Didn't know
1337
01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:00.960
how the next steps were gonna play
out, didn't know about Jamar Chase,
1338
01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.760
didn't know what the roster would look
like, didn't know that they would make
1339
01:41:02.760 --> 01:41:06.439
good investments in free agency. But
I got excited because I thought, you
1340
01:41:06.439 --> 01:41:09.680
know what, that's the kind of
guy you can win a title with.
1341
01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:12.640
I believe that when they were coming
off of two and fourteen years, so
1342
01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:16.600
why would I not believe that now
when I've seen them come close? So
1343
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:20.640
you know you can ask, well, you know how, I'm not rooting
1344
01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:25.840
for the cheap I'm rooting for my
wager. If not for a wager,
1345
01:41:25.880 --> 01:41:29.199
I would just root for a great
football game to be entertained. I would
1346
01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:31.880
root for funny commercials because that would
mean that people aren't offended anymore, which
1347
01:41:31.920 --> 01:41:35.399
isn't the case because people are offended
by everything. I'd root for a cool
1348
01:41:35.399 --> 01:41:40.439
halftime show. I'd root for an
interesting game that gave us stuff to talk
1349
01:41:40.479 --> 01:41:44.279
about. I'd root for there to
be a situation guide to buy analytics so
1350
01:41:44.520 --> 01:41:47.439
old people could yell and scream about
how nerds are ruining sports. But the
1351
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:51.279
outcome, Eh. I'm rooting for
Kansas City because I got a wager on
1352
01:41:51.359 --> 01:41:56.000
them, and if I lose,
I lose. But to me, how
1353
01:41:56.079 --> 01:41:59.439
you feel about them, or how
you feel about any team that's really,
1354
01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:03.920
really good, good is more than
anything guided by jealousy, and I just
1355
01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:08.960
if you're secure, you're not jealous. I'm secure right now with the team
1356
01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:12.079
that I root for. I'm secure
with the quarterback more than anything else.
1357
01:42:12.119 --> 01:42:14.800
And I'll say it I'm secure with
the coach. I think Zach Taylor's a
1358
01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:17.720
good coach. Wonder about the function
of the offense, but I think is
1359
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:20.920
a good coach. I think it's
a good team. They've got some things
1360
01:42:20.960 --> 01:42:26.279
to do this offseason to be great, but I don't think those things are
1361
01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:31.279
so far beyond their grasp that you
can't conceive it. So I'm not telling
1362
01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:34.479
you to root for the Chiefs or
the forty nine ers or anybody. I'm
1363
01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:38.319
not telling you. I don't believe
in telling people what to think. I
1364
01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:41.319
don't believe in telling people what to
prefer. I don't believe in telling people
1365
01:42:41.319 --> 01:42:44.880
what to root for. But for
me, from my standpoint, I just
1366
01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:47.439
don't get I know there's a lot
of folks, especially on social media,
1367
01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:50.760
that you know, Chiefs fans show
up in their mentions. Maybe some have
1368
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:56.319
shown up in mind. I don't
care whatever. I'm not going to be
1369
01:42:56.359 --> 01:42:59.840
I'm not gonna be driven to a
certain place because some anonymous dude who doesn't
1370
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.479
care about me says something to me
about their team on Twitter. I'm too
1371
01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:06.880
secure a person. I'm too secure
Bengals fan. Right now, they're going
1372
01:43:06.920 --> 01:43:12.199
to win one. I believe that
I don't know it, but I believe
1373
01:43:12.239 --> 01:43:15.680
that. And as long as I
believe that, I'm gonna have a hard
1374
01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:20.279
time being jealous of any team,
including one that has and is doing what
1375
01:43:20.359 --> 01:43:26.279
I wish the Bengals had and would
do. You are welcome to comment on
1376
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:28.560
that at five one, three,
seven four nine, fifteen thirty. And
1377
01:43:28.680 --> 01:43:30.840
you know, I mean, people
get mad about it. Travis Kelcey is
1378
01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:35.560
on a lot of commercials. Okay, Travis Kelcey is a podcast where he
1379
01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:40.800
says the F word a lot.
Okay. Travis Kelcey's dating the biggest pop
1380
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:45.279
star on the planet. Okay,
So for those reasons, I'm supposed to
1381
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:49.439
dislike him. Travis Kelcey clap back
at our mayor last year. Would you
1382
01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:56.680
expect him to do? I just
I can't. I I've tried to get
1383
01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:00.680
myself worked up about those things just
to fit in. I care less and
1384
01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:04.760
less about fitting into we are late
twenty three from six ESPN fifteen thirty.
1385
01:44:08.119 --> 01:44:13.960
All right, he wasn't paying attention
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1386
01:44:14.560 --> 01:44:19.920
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League. Now, he played on
a team in that league, but I
1389
01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:32.760
can't pronounce it, so I'm not
gonna say it. He is a twenty
1390
01:44:32.840 --> 01:44:36.239
five year old midfielder. He is
going to be an FC Cincinnati player.
1391
01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:41.760
A member of FC Cincinnati, one
might say through the twenty twenty six season.
1392
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:46.079
There will be a club option for
twenty twenty seven. Tonight on ESPN
1393
01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:51.119
fifteen thirty. As soon as we're
done, it's the John Caliperi Radio Show.
1394
01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:59.439
Kentucky an impressive offensive performance last night
in a bounce back road win over
1395
01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:04.000
Belt at Music Hall on the weird
floor with the benches on the baselines.
1396
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:08.800
Vanderbilt is terrible. Kentucky is not, and they certainly were not out last
1397
01:45:08.880 --> 01:45:12.720
night, putting up a buck nine, a buck nine, as we say,
1398
01:45:13.079 --> 01:45:16.600
big night for Antonio Reeves with twenty
four points. Tonight the John Kella
1399
01:45:16.640 --> 01:45:20.359
Perry Show. Will he will he
show up for that? Did he show
1400
01:45:20.439 --> 01:45:24.640
up for the postgame radio show after
the Vanderbilt when he did not show up
1401
01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:28.680
for the postgame radio show after they
lost to Tennessee? Has he addressed that
1402
01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:31.600
I don't know. Maybe he will
tonight, assuming he shows the John Calli
1403
01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:35.840
Perry Show, or somebody way,
way, way way back on channel twelve
1404
01:45:35.840 --> 01:45:41.680
caught him John Clippery tonight at six. My person's no longer at channel twelve.
1405
01:45:41.720 --> 01:45:44.680
I don't know where they are ESPN
fifteen because you know what, I
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never mispronouncedtuff clippery tonight on seven hundred
WLW, it says Xavier basketball as the
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Musketeer's host Villanova. Villanova's twelve and
ten, Xavier's twelve and ten, Xavier
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six and five in the Big East, Villanova's five and six. These are
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bubble teams, one might call them. And they played tonight at six o'clock.
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Villanova won the first game, and
Xavier should have won. That was
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a game if you recall, Villanova
goes up eight. Xavier then springs this
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half court trap that was very effective. They iso Dez Claude late. He
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01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:27.319
gets to the rim, no help, defense can't finish. Later in the
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game, Villanova's shooting free throws they
miss. Dez has a wide open look
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from about maybe sixteen feet and it
hits the front of the rim. Xavier
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loses a game they could have and
one might argue they should have won seven
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o'clock tonight on a seven hundred WL
tomorrow on the show, We're gonna make
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some money on the super Bowl with
our buddy Lee Sterling from Paramount Sports,
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01:46:54.640 --> 01:47:00.159
also our guy Chad Brendel. I'm
told there's a chance we might have Dan
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01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:06.720
Skillings on the show tomorrow. That's
right, Dan Skillings. Hopefully we get
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good Dan on Saturday, and hopefully
we get good Dan. Hopefully we get
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I'll take bad Dan on the show
tomorrow. We just want Dan. I'm
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01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:21.680
told there's a chance, a possibility
Dan Skillings tomorrow. We're also we're holding
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01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:26.560
out hope we can get Ted Carris. I mentioned this yesterday. We were
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01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:33.239
offered Ted Carris on the show tomorrow
if we were at Radio Row, which
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we're not at Radio Row. And
this is not a complaint because I think
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01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:41.640
Radio Row is kind of useless unless
your team is playing. But we would
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01:47:41.680 --> 01:47:46.680
love to talk to Ted Carris about
his season, about the since he had
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01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:50.439
about being nominated for the Walter Payton
Man of the Year Award, which is
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01:47:50.479 --> 01:47:54.880
going to be announced tomorrow along with
the Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty
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01:47:54.880 --> 01:47:59.720
four, which hopefully includes Willie Anderson, and so I replied to the PR
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01:47:59.800 --> 01:48:01.680
Dude, Dude, I'd love to
have Ted on Can we get them?
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01:48:02.039 --> 01:48:04.199
You know we're not going to be
in Vegas. They won't let me fly
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01:48:04.279 --> 01:48:08.479
to Vegas to interview Ted Carris.
So can we get them on the phone?
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01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:12.319
Can we get them via zoom?
Can we can we exchange emails?
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01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:16.479
Something I have yet to hear back
from Ted Carris's PR person, so the
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01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:21.520
answer might be no, but you
never know. I was offered this opportunity
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01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:30.960
from Strategic Communications, which is a
pretty generic name for a company, Strategic
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01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:38.319
Communications. Hey mo Ashley here with
pure Cycle, the sustainable recycling tech company
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01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:46.239
that transforms whoa polypropylene plastic waste into
a renewable resource. When I read that
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01:48:46.319 --> 01:48:51.199
paragraph, I was so intrigued I
couldn't help but continue. It's estimated that
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01:48:51.439 --> 01:48:57.640
each NFL stadium produces and sixteen pounds
of number five plastic, one of the
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01:48:57.680 --> 01:49:03.439
most commonly used and least recycled plastics, every game. With two hundred and
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01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:08.359
seventy two games each season, that
means the NFL creates over three hundred thousand
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01:49:08.399 --> 01:49:13.840
pounds of number five plastic trash each
year. This year the Cincinnati Bengals partnered
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01:49:13.840 --> 01:49:20.680
with pure Cycle to improve recycling efforts, reduced waste and advance their sustainability goals.
1447
01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:25.319
And then it goes on to tell
me about pure Cycle here, which
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01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:30.039
I'm not going to bore you with. But Ashley then writes in bold letters,
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01:49:30.239 --> 01:49:36.359
would you be interested in speaking with
pure Cycle CEO Dustin Olsen about the
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01:49:36.399 --> 01:49:43.800
Pure Zero program and how it's helping
the Bengals improve the sustainability of their recycling
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01:49:43.880 --> 01:49:47.479
operations. So I have yet to
write Ashley back, Taren, do you
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01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:51.840
think we should have on the CEO
of pure Cycle to talk about the Pure
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01:49:51.960 --> 01:49:58.560
Zero recycling program and how the Bengals
can improve the sustainability of their recycling operations.
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01:49:59.239 --> 01:50:04.840
No, I'm good, so we
probably won't do that. What I
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01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:11.000
want to know is who's the host
that says yes? Now, Look,
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01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:15.399
there are times I will freely admit
to you where we're not desperate for content,
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01:50:15.079 --> 01:50:18.039
but we're a little bit more willing
to say yes to things than we
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01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:21.640
would be at other times, or
we're minding a little bit more. We're
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01:50:21.640 --> 01:50:26.000
a little bit deeper to find stuff
because there's maybe not as much stuff going
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01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:30.319
on. Where are you in the
production of your show that you get this,
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01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:35.520
and I'm sure Ashley is very nice
where you go. Yeah, you
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01:50:35.560 --> 01:50:41.800
know what, three forty five,
let's do the sustainability of the Bengals recycling
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01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:45.199
operations. All right, Well,
it's on the table. I'm sure if
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01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:47.960
we reached out to Ashley, if
we get hard up for a segment tomorrow,
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we'll reach out to Ashley and she'll
say yes. So I'm feeling not
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01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:59.600
great about getting Ted Carrison. I'm
feeling hopeful about getting Dan Skillings on.
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01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:05.359
But at the very least I know
we can get Dustin Olsen on from pure
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01:51:05.359 --> 01:51:10.920
Cycle. We're working on a few
other things, are you see now I'm
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01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:14.800
intrigued. Now I'm intrigued. No
radio rope guests, but some other things.
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01:51:14.800 --> 01:51:17.720
Though the radio road guests we've been
offered, like some of them have
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01:51:17.800 --> 01:51:20.760
said yes too because I think they're
good, even if they're not huge names.
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01:51:20.800 --> 01:51:29.359
And want Brandon Lang We've been offered
him. No, Okay, no,
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01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:33.039
I don't want Brandon Lang. Have
you been offered Dustin Olsen? Or
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01:51:33.199 --> 01:51:35.720
Am I the only person that got
this email? I think you might be
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01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:40.600
the only one at the email.
Do you think Nick Saban will do a
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01:51:40.680 --> 01:51:44.159
radio tour to promote him being on
college game Day. Now, possibly that
1477
01:51:44.159 --> 01:51:46.920
would be cool. Get Nick Saban
on, Like now we need the Bearcats
1478
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.039
to be really good so they could
host game Day and we can get Nick
1479
01:51:50.039 --> 01:51:54.359
Saban on the show. Is Nick
Saban like an aboris about like how many
1480
01:51:54.359 --> 01:51:58.079
hours he works preparing for college game
Day like he did when he was a
1481
01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:01.279
coach at Alabama. Gotta hope not
every single year, Nick Saban. He's
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01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:05.119
working twenty two hour and like every
football coach does it. But Nick Saban
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01:52:05.720 --> 01:52:11.159
kind of took that to a an
obnoxious degree. All Right, our shows
1484
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:14.520
over is that what you're doing,
You're a one minute lifting the show most
1485
01:52:14.520 --> 01:52:18.079
to the point that he's reading press
releases and interview pitches from Dustin Olsen of
1486
01:52:18.159 --> 01:52:23.800
the recycling company. All right,
we're not going to do that, but
1487
01:52:23.920 --> 01:52:30.000
maybe Dan Skillings, maybe maybe maybe
Ted Carris's guy will think twice and put
1488
01:52:30.039 --> 01:52:33.199
him on the phone with us.
We are going to talk to Chad Rindell.
1489
01:52:33.279 --> 01:52:36.880
That that'd be kind of cool.
Lee Starling, not Brandon Lang,
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01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:42.199
not the pure cycle guy. We
are looking forward to it tomorrow at to
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01:52:42.239 --> 01:52:45.279
A three all five obviously recap Tonight's
Big Xavior, Villanova Tilt, and so
1492
01:52:45.399 --> 01:52:49.199
much more. Don't forget Tony and
Austin have a Since he three sixty at
1493
01:52:49.239 --> 01:52:51.720
noon, we are back at it
tomorrow at three. All five have an
1494
01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:57.319
awesome night. Thank you for listening. Thanks to Tarren Bland for producing,
1495
01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:01.159
assuming he shows up for his radio
show, The John Calipari Show is next,
1496
01:53:01.319 --> 01:53:04.760
and if it's not John Caliperi,
it'll be Orlando, Antigua or somebody
1497
01:53:04.760 --> 01:53:08.920
else, maybe Bruis or FLYNT.
No idea, we'll all find out together
1498
01:53:09.239 --> 01:53:12.880
at six o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports station