Episode 156 - Wicked

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joining me once again on the guest Mike. Hello, Sarah, Hello,
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and what movie are we watching today?
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Sarah?
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We're watching Wicked.
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Which is just in time for Easter.
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Happy Easter, Happy Easter.
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There's no film more Easter centric than Wicked. The Wizard
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of Oz has a kind of Easter vibe. I feel like,
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you know, you could make an argument for that, so
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we're just gonna go with that. But this is a
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film that is wildly successful and beloved and popular, and
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neither of us have seen it, and we're talking about
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seeing it for many moons.
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But what do you know about Wicked?
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What is your level of enthusiasm, excitement? How are you feeling?
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I'm feeling good. I would say I know a lot
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more about the Wicked press tour than I do the
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movie because I was just so deeply invested in so much,
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not even drama, but just it's Ariana Grande and Cynthia
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A Rivo. Yeah right, so yeah, So how their relationship
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paid like played out in the press was really fascinating
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to me, and I kind of just like went down
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a deep rabbit hole and I found that really interesting.
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But I don't really know a lot about this movie.
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I feel like I'm or we are the last two
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people on earth to see it.
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It reminds me remember Hamilton. That was a musical, wildly popular,
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everyone loved it. We knew nothing going into it, and
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we came out of that completely in love with that
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film and that musical. And I'm wondering if this might
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be a repeat of that.
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I think I'm going to love it because it has
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all of the It's like the formula is there for me,
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like the great singing and the colors and the lights
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and the cast, and I don't it just looks very
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fun and beautiful. It looks beautiful. I mean, the trailers
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are gorgeous. The clips I've seen are beautiful. I've I've
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heard a lot of Obviously, you can't talk about Wicked
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without what is it? Wicked for Good? The part two of.
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Yes, and we're just good. We'll do We'll do part
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one for this episode. I think, unless we decide we
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do that. Sometimes I remember we did The Godfather and
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it was like, we'll just do the whole trilogy. So
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right now, as we're recording this before viewing portion of
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the episode, we're planning on only watching part one because
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we have a five year old. We don't have time
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to sit down and watch five hours worth of a
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movie and we're sitting in and talk about it.
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Yeah, you just woke up.
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We don't know what day it is, what time it is,
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So just part one and then we'll do another episode
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for Wicked for Good.
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Yeah, But and I well, I hear varying things, I
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guess is what I was going to say, Whereas I
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think it's pretty universal that everyone is quite obsessed with
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the first installments, and then I've heard a lot of
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differing views on the second, so I'm very curious to
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see what I think on that. But I think as
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far as just the first movie goes, what do I
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know about it? Not much, but it does look really good.
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I don't really know much about the play or the book. Yeah,
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I don't know which it's Honestly, I don't know a lot.
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I'm like, I don't know. I think it's based off
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the Broadway play or the.
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Book I've heard is actually much more adult oriented, like
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it's much darker, deals with more intense themes, whereas the
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musical kind of went the family friendly vibe to make
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sure everyone could pay for a ticket and come see it.
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And I think the film is based directly on the
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musical because the musical really I don't know. I know
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the book was relatively popular, but I know the musical
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is where it's at, Like that's what people are thinking about.
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Just like with Alexander Hamilton, people think he's okay, but
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play that's on a whole other level of amazing. So
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I think this is a similar situation where it's it's
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based heavily on the.
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Play versus the novel, and I don't know. Like again,
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I know it is the prequel to Wizard of Oz.
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I know it's about the relationship between the Wicked, which
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of the Beast.
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Which of the West right and Glynna their sisters or
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adopted sisters.
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Again, I really I don't know a lot.
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That's all I know. And that you know it's about
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kind of how.
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She becomes evil or whatever. That's really all I know too.
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Even in this I feel like I mean, and again
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we keep saying I don't know, I don't know. I
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don't get the vibe like you said, where maybe the
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source material is a bit darker or well no, no,
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I guess that's the book is a little darker. I
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get the vibe that the play and then the subsequent
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movie that it's loosely or you know, based off of
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it's not it doesn't fully commit. Maybe that's the that's
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the vibe I get, Like, I have not seen anything
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that makes me think that you leave Wicked or even
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part two being like, oh I really hated her like,
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you know what I mean, I think there's maybe some
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redemption stuff and I'm curious to see what direction they
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go in.
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Yeah, I And speaking of the differences between part one
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and part two, I think maybe part of why people
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didn't like it's just so weird because it's fans of
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Wicked who didn't like Part two, Yeah, who were the
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most outspoken about not liking Part two, which baffles me
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because I'm like, well.
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Didn't you know what happened?
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What makes like, what shocked you, like, what changed your mind?
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If you're a fan of the play, why wouldn't you know?
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But I mean, in some ways, I'm actually weirdly or
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excited to watch part two because I'm so baffled.
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That the reaction was so it skewed so negative.
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But what was great about this first part is I
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was kind of like, not disinterested, but it wasn't on
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my radar. But then you know, reviews came out and
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they were incredibly positive. But people I knew who were
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big film snobs or not even necessarily musical.
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People were like, yeah, it was great.
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Like I went into it not caring and I loved it,
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and that kind of I was like, oh wow, this
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must be really good, and that sort of got me
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excited for it.
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But I'm kind of hoping for the best with this
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first part.
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I'm wondering will it feel like a complete movie or
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is it going to feel like very much a part
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one of two, because it felt as if people really
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enjoy this on its own terms, and that it could
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be enjoyed on its own terms.
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So even on the at the box office did wasn't
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there a pretty big drop from the second and I
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was like insane.
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Yeah, Critically, fan reaction on every level. This first part
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is like everyone's like, it's amazing, and then the second
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part everyone was kind.
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Of like, so interesting.
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Yeah, so it is kind of like I think I
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want to go against the pray. Yeah, I'm just seeing.
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I'm very very curious. Yeah, we'll see, We're.
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I'm I am excited to see this and partly just
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to know what all the fuss is about, to just
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finally get it out. There are a couple of people
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who I think were kind of like, it's it's okay,
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it's all right. But for the most part, the reaction,
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especially to this first part was glowing, and from people
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who like preface their reviews to me, as like, I'm
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not a musical person, and I thought this was amazing,
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So I'm like, wow, i am a musical person, and
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I so I'm hoping for the best.
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed. And then I'm just very
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curious what Part two will be.
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And I know we're saying we're not gonna do part
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two in this episode, but like, I just feel like
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I'm just very very curious.
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But yeah, so plot wise, I kind of that's my guest.
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Or I know it is about that relationship, but I
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don't know anything. I know it's like a kind of
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maybe a fall from Grace story or like you know,
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talking about the Godfather, like a Michael Corleone, like how
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she goes from being a decent person to being treated
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terribly and it makes her evil or whatever, and this
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friendship or love these two characters have for each other
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will be the central piece of it that I don't
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know anything anything, but I'm excited me too. All Right, Well,
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let's do it. Okay, the best way to celebrate Easter.
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So we'll be back. We'll be back to let everyone
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All right, we're back. How how wicked do you feel?
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Are you filled with the wicked spirit?
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This easter? This this fine easter holiday?
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I am. I had the best time one. Yeah, I
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like from start to finish, I loved it.
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I loved it. I loved it. It was great. Yeah,
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I was very, very impressed.
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And also I will say, I feel like I am
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already feeling like, just getting through this first part. I
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don't know how to fully I don't know how to
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fully react to it until I see part two.
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Yes, because it obviously ends and you're like, now, okay,
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now what Like I'm ready, let's go. Let's get into
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this the meat of the conflict.
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And we talked about it a little bit in part
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one where we were saying what happened that made fans
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so disappointed?
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In part two?
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Yeah, and we'll try to save that for when we
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talk about Wicked for good, which will happen. But I
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really loved this. I thought it was fantastic. It gave
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me everything I wanted from a musical. It was joyous,
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it was fun, it was colorful. The music numbers were great,
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the choreography was great. I always I don't watch I'm
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trying to think of like the modern musicals I've seen,
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Like we talked about Hamilton, but that's that was a
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filmed The Broadway production was not designed as a cinematic experience,
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and I feel like John Chu, the director and the
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team who was involved with this creatively took advantage of
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using like cinematic technique and cinematic storytelling and were able
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to kind of say, like, this is going to be
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wholly unique to the cinema going experience, where if you
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go to the play, you're going to get something different.
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But they weren't like beholden to the play in the
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sense that it felt staged or stiff, like there wasn't
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any life to it. It felt very like things like
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the library dance scene, that whole musical number where there's
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like the spinning and everyone is running around and the
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camera is like going every which direction. I felt very
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much like this is a full embrace of what this
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medium is capable of, but also a celebration of what
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great musicals can be. So I think that impressed me
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because I don't I'm trying to think of a modern example.
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I know you liked The Greatest Showmen, right, I haven't
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seen that, but.
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This is on I love that movie. This is on
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a whole nother levels in terms of dancing and singing
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and like just the this is very grand But yeah,
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I agree, I think it feel it felt like a
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love letter to Broadway, but in a film form like
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it was just very It was like whimsical but without
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being super cheesy.
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Yes enough, but I want cheese. I want that kind
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of like it didn't go. It wasn't like it was
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completely cheesy or corny or ridiculous or campy, but it
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winked like it.
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Was winking at the audience.
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There was great humor that it was in the performances,
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which I wasn't really expecting.
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I think Ariada Grande.
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And cynthiarevo Yes, both of.
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Them are so self serious in real life. It was
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kind of a turn off for me for the two
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of them. I was like, am I going to enjoy
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them in this movie? They kind of annoy me as celebrity.
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Well, it's funny because let me just interdict real quick
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on that the press tour that everyone's been talking about.
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You know, like there's just a lot of stuff that's
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like okay, that to me is very interesting because it
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hasn't it's not necessarily how they have been in real life.
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you said, it's like, if that was your glimpse into
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those two people, I don't even know if that is
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a total accurate reflection of like at least how they've
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been in the past. Yeah, and then Ariana Grande. Of course,
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it's just been a bona fide pop star. You know,
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a completely different persona if you will. And I think
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the first thing I said to you after her opening
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number was I knew she was a soprano. I did
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not know she could sting. She got the pipes sat
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because she hits high notes in her pop music. But
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her pop music is very breathy and stylized, and obviously
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this is stylized too, but it's just completely different music.
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And you can hear she retrained her voice completely. Yeah,
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and she knocked it out of the park. Cynthia Revo.
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I already knew she was incredible because I followed her
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Broadway career. I've followed her movies, like I've heard her sing.
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She exceeded my expectations, but I knew what I was getting.
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of acting. She hadn't done much acting before this.
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at it, but I don't think on this scale. I
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think this is her very big movie I was reading.
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I mean, she really really wanted the role, and she
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really pushed for it, and she even said a one
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of I think popular was a song that they were
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going to kind of contemporize and make like, oh, well,
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kind of fit your genre, and she was like, that's
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not Glinda Yea, So no, you're not going to do
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that for me.
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I'm Glinda. I'm going to do it like Glinda would.
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Which is great, and I think she really was committed
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to the bit. But I don't know anything about her.
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I don't know anything about Cynthia Orrivo, so all I
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had known about them came from the kind of notorious
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press tours where they'd kind of frankly come across as
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a little insufferable and self absorbed. I just remember Cynthia
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Rivo reacting to that fan art poster, Yeah, and just like,
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how's just how pompous you had to be to react
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to a fan's genuine expression and attempt to engage in
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this world that they love.
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I think I think she probably felt a little silly.
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I should clarify if if somebody listens, like what are
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they talking about? It was somebody had done a fan
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art of Cynthia. They designed it, designed it like the
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famous poster where the hat, the brim of the hat
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comes over the eyes the witch's hat, and Cynthia Eva
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went on a tirade on Twitter where she was like, oh,
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my eyes are my most defining feature.
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How it was like the eyes.
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Or eyes, yes, but she was treating it as if
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like it was this person had flat out insulted them,
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like insulted her or like was malicious in.
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What they were doing.
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And it was just like and people I think went
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after I don't know if they went after the artist,
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but it was so pronounced that the artist had to
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respond right, like wasn't there like something.
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Artist was an artist? I think it was a fan
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Like I could be wrong, so like caveat, I'm positive,
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look for yourself please, But I will say I think
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I would think she probably later had on her pillow
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and was like, ah, that should have been in the group.
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Chat have to have a disconnect from reality to react
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to a fan.
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I think she did say I shouldn't have said that
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on the internet, like I do think she came back
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and like, you know, I think there's just this there.
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These are artists that take things very seriously, and that
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is amazing in the sense that we get we get
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the payoff of their incredibly hard work and passion. The
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flip side is that you can have situations like these
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and the press Stoor is kind of muddled with like
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some silliness and some awkwardness and then some of this stuff.
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So it's just kind of like it was interesting.
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I think that. So what impressed me the most is
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that both of them.
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Are incredible in the movie. And not only that, but
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you know.
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Like I said, it doesn't take itself too seriously I'd
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expected because of their personas, like they were like we're
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in this musical indenda. But they're both very fun and
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silly and willing to laugh at each other and themselves,
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and so they have great chemistry. Yeah, there's a loose Yeah,
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they there's a looseness to the film that I think
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sometimes the live performance has that stage performance and they're
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both picarly live performance of stage, but I mean like
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stage cinematic performance because it's more contained because you're doing
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the takes over and over again, you're not reacting to
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a live audience.
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It can feel a.
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Little bit more sterile, and I didn't get that at
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all from this. It's full of life and wonder. And
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I also was almost expecting, maybe because of what I'd
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seen in the trailers, for it to be very green
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screen heavy, very artificial, and there is like there's green screen,
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there's CGI, but for the most part, like these are
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pretty like giant, massive sets and interactive sets that you know,
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you see the actors.
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And I do believe that they did win the Oscar
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for like I want to say, set besign, Yeah, and
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costume design, which again, the costumes are incredible, Like you said,
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the production design is incredible. It looked like a lot
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of practical sets. Yeah, it just looked good.
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John Chu apparently he referenced Hook as an inspiration, and
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Hook had some great sets.
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That's really cool.
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There are a couple other things, but he was he
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was going for that old school, the Grand musicals, where
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they did build those sets, and it wasn't allow the
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CGI and you feel that, you feel like the actors
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are in there and the way they interact with their
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environments gives it that life, and the choreography gives it
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that life too. Again, I think the way the camera
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sometimes I could I feel like such a disconnect between
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the choreography in a film versus what you'll see like
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in a live environment. But this is just the way
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the camera moves and the way the shots play out.
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Like it just felt like such a perfect marriage and
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a great understanding of musical like the genre musical movement
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and how a camera should capture that and how the
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camera can play an active role in providing energy as
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the performers are providing that energy. So I was very
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impressed by that as well.
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Yeah, there's that scene that you talked about, the library
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scene with Firo, like his big first number. But Jonathan Bailey's.
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Understanding of who he was was exclusively from the interview
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he did with David Quardy Sweat, because it's always about
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Superman with me. So I watched that and I was
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like that, Jonathan Bailey seems.
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Like a nice guy man, He's wonderful.
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I kind of wanted the two of them to they
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had such a good chemistry. In that interview, I was like,
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Jonathan and David they should should do a musical together
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and maybe they should make out Lerty.
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You know, he's just has like this really easy going,
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flirty persona. But no, that that scene, I loved it
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because a Jonathan Bailey, and he delivered. He's like flirting
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with everyone. He's so good.
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He's so good Sexiest Man Alive and I got it.
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I was like, one hundred percent.
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You're nice when you can watch.
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A movie like Wicked that has all this hype and
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fandom and you're like, god, I just want to stop
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hearing about this.
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But then you can watch it and be like, oh okay.
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But also the same thing for the Sexiest Man a
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live award where you can watch this gentleman and say, like,
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sexiest man Alive. There are a lot of men out
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there is.
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Oh, well, okay, I can you have.
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I will give you lots of material to watch you need.
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There's a season of heart Stopper he's in which he's great.
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There is Oh Bridgerton, a whole season dedicated to him
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and reliance and it's it's my favorite Bridgerton season. It's
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so good. But Anyways, I digress. So, but that scene,
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just to like go back to what you're saying about
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how it was filmed that part were like you say,
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everything's spinning and there's that parkour guy that just goes
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all the way through and the camera is following. Any
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I don't see any cuts, And I'm not like, I'm
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not like you, I miss cuts, But I did not
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see any cuts. And I was so impressed by that.
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I just thought it was it was incredible. I was like, Okay,
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that is good camera work. That is good dancing, that
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is good choreography. They're still singing, what the heck? This
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is so good?
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Yeah, and coming into this film not knowing anything about
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the story, Yeah, it's so absorbing from the get go
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because that creativity is there from the get go. But
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what about the film and the story surprised you because
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we didn't know anything about it going into it, Like
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I think I said, I thought they the witches were
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sisters and they're not sisters. But what surprised you about
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the film and the story since we didn't know anything,
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what kind of threw you for a loop or was
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unexpected or pleasantly surprised?
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Like, how did you feel you know.
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Not knowing much about it. I think I kind of
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had a misconception, preconception that Alphaba was going to maybe
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not be as sympathetic as a character from the get go.
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I didn't realize we were going to fall in love
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with her and see that she has a pure heart
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and that she is just different and had that struggle
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which was so visceral and so painful times. And I
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was like genuinely moved by that, and I didn't expect
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I mean, I kind of knew, Okay, I'm going to
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love both of them, because everyone who has seen this
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movie loves both of them. It's not like, oh I
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like her, but she's bad, you know. You know, I
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just it's like this movie kind of breaks your heart
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a little bit because I'm scared about where it's going
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to go, and he'll we get a you know, happy
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ending or and I haven't been spoiled, which is great.
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I'm really curious. But I just like I really fell
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in love with her character. Yeah, I was so moved,
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and you know, I think when I started crying during
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that dance scene, yes, Holy I think for me, that
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is the standout scene, you know, where they're in the
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OZ dusk ballroom and they're like under the water. It's
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so beautiful, and you just she thinks she's finally made
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a friend and she's accepted and she gets excited and
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then she realizes she's the but of the joke, and
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like I could almost not watch it. I was so
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like I had the secondhand pain. I was like, well,
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and I think we're all human. I think we've all
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experienced a degree of that, but this was like really painful.
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But because of all that, and like god, these women
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can act with their eyeballs, okay, like it is insane.
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That's why.
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That's why Cynthia was so mad. She was upset, how
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dare you block my eyes on your fan art?
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But I think it made it made that emotional payoff,
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like so good when Glinda comes up and starts mirroring
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her dance movements. And I don't know, I think for me,
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if I were to like describe this movie, I'd be like,
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this is this, that was this embodies the whole film.
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That's all you need to know to get every other
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And it's.
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Not even it's not a big song, you know, defying
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gravity as the climactic moment at the end, which I
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think everyone kind of walks out of the theater thinking
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about that.
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Yeah, but I think I agree with you.
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Yeah, yeah, it.
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Was an exact sequence.
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Is so beautifully done, and they're like, you know, it's
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all performance. Yeah, it's silence, like they're not really nobody
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is saying anything. She's not saying oh yeah, well you
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guys like it's like you Cynthia's performance is so good
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00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.720
and that you get you sense her defiance and how
489
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.759
she's behaving where she's like I don't I don't even care.
490
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.200
She does care, but you get like she's like, I'm
491
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:28.039
not going to let this bring me down. And then
492
00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:33.079
Ariana Grande Glinda sees her and recognizes her and is
493
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.880
willing to engage with her and basically be like, w'ere
494
00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.640
I'm with you now. And it's I mean, it's beautifully done,
495
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:44.119
beautifully shot and beautifully performed, the great great moment.
496
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.920
Yeah, and I think I read somewhere that in the
497
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.200
in the play it's played a little more for laughs. Interesting,
498
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.960
and I think I read that summer So if that's wrong,
499
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.720
I'm sorry. I'm sure someone will tell us who's that.
500
00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:59.799
But but I remember maybe not like huge comedic laughs,
501
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:01.839
but it was just more comedic or like they had
502
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:05.640
more comedic timing with the physicality of the dancing or
503
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:11.119
something like that. But like whatever they did was just beautiful.
504
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:14.400
I mean, like what good direction and good writing and
505
00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:17.559
like it was just I don't know. I just was like,
506
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:19.839
I know we moved on from that scene, but I
507
00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.240
was still there for the rest of the movie, Like
508
00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:25.160
I just kept feeling those feelings and it carried me
509
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:25.960
through to the end.
510
00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:26.319
Well.
511
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:28.319
And for that that had to do. That scene had
512
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:30.400
to do so much, and that from that moment on
513
00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:34.960
their friends, Yeah, there's no big moment as far as
514
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.480
like I guess what you would expect, the moment where
515
00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:41.200
somebody becomes friends. And the first thing that popped into
516
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.240
my mind was Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, where
517
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.039
they have been butting heads with Hermione and then they
518
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:47.799
all find a troll together and then they're like, we're
519
00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:51.240
all friends. Like this is much more subtle and emotional
520
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:54.359
than that. So for that to have played out, and
521
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.480
if it was in the play more of a like oh,
522
00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.160
it's funny and it's going to be silly and they're
523
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:00.880
still going to become friends. Like for them to like
524
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.039
really sit in that moment and let it play out
525
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.200
in a serious emotional way, really really great filmmaking.
526
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.920
So I I'm with you one hundred percent on that.
527
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:14.000
But I think what I kind of was the same
528
00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:16.519
as you, where I was not expecting.
529
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.640
What's what's the Wicked Witch's name.
530
00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.400
Alphaba alphaba, alphaba alphaba.
531
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.519
I was not expecting her to be such a grounded,
532
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:32.519
relatable character very and I almost am like, so Wicked
533
00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:36.720
is really it really is a reinterpretation. It's not like
534
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.599
we're like, it's the the.
535
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.000
Real version of Wizard of Oz.
536
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.359
Like the Wizard of Oz the story is like, that's
537
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.480
the fairy tale you've heard, but this is what really happened.
538
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:47.680
Is now kind of the vibe I'm getting. And I
539
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.440
wasn't sure how directly this would tie in to Wizard
540
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.960
of Oz the like the story the film, because obviously,
541
00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.400
you know, Wicked was made many many years after, written
542
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:01.039
many many years.
543
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:02.240
After the book and the film.
544
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:06.799
But I wasn't sure if this the play kind of
545
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.160
was like, yeah, we'll tie it more directly.
546
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:09.480
Into the movie.
547
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:12.359
Visually, there's a lot of similarities, but you know, the
548
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.680
character in the film obviously is like like very Caaculie
549
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:17.759
and evil. So I'm like, oh, okay, so is this
550
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.039
like like the story you haven't heard? I guess we're
551
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:24.240
going in that direction. So that kind of that was
552
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.720
interesting to me because I'm right now like I'm like, well,
553
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.440
she's the only good person in this intent?
554
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.519
Yeah, like is that the.
555
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.839
I'm guessing that's the intention. But then it also it's
556
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.599
like I don't know how I feel about that, Like,
557
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.720
I you know, not that every well almost everyone else
558
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:47.200
is kind of like one note bad except for Jonathan Bailey,
559
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.079
and even Glinda is kind of like just she's.
560
00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:53.240
A little gray. She also just she's you know, for
561
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:55.839
as much as she acts like a leader in most
562
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.279
of the movies, she's a fault. She wants to be accepted, yes,
563
00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:03.000
like she is desper for that you know, acceptance, and
564
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.079
she'll she'll blend it.
565
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:05.079
Wants to be popular.
566
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.720
She wants to be popular, you know. But obviously she's
567
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.119
getting more layers in depth as the movie you know
568
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.079
goes in her relationship with Alpha ba blossoms. I think
569
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.119
it opens her eyes to a lot of stuff obviously,
570
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:19.559
but it isn't you know, because you think about it.
571
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.319
The movie opens in the Future and the Wicked Witch
572
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.759
of you know she's dead, but is she you know,
573
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.440
so there's so many things in my head. I'm like,
574
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:30.400
is that real? And you know, Glinda has this very
575
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.799
like blase like, oh, yeah, she's dead.
576
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:36.400
I guess we're friends, yes, a long time ago.
577
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.240
Is this going to be, like you said, like a
578
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.519
switch and she actually the bad one? Or is this
579
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.920
an act which I'm leaning more towards. I think it's
580
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:49.119
some sort of act and then she's protecting her or
581
00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:50.400
something that's kind of where I.
582
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.519
A moment like I don't know, there's a moment in
583
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.359
this film where Michelle Yo covers Alphaba and it's like, oh,
584
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.480
we don't want you to get wet, and it's like
585
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:00.720
the only reference to her.
586
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.720
Like there's like stuff in the beginning when they're like, oh,
587
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:03.519
the Wicked Witch.
588
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.039
Like waterness that yeah, but I it was almost so
589
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.519
understated that I was like, are they hinting at that?
590
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:14.559
Or like, is water.
591
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.200
An actual because it's such a silly you know in
592
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:19.440
the movie. In the movie, it's just very silly, yeah
593
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.720
that that happens to be the thing that defeats her.
594
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:24.759
And in this film, because it's more like.
595
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.920
Grounded and solemn in terms of like its emotional content.
596
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.200
It feels a little silly that it's like, is it
597
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.480
just going to be Dorothy throws a bucket of water
598
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.160
on this character? Right?
599
00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:38.039
So that's I thought that was interesting, but also.
600
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:39.000
Like I totally miss that.
601
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:44.079
Yeah, but I think that was maybe a.
602
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.480
Issue, like a flaw like it I don't know if
603
00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:51.119
it was the intention or if it was the intention,
604
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.319
it was so understated that it's like should that have
605
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.440
been a little bit more pronounced and that kind of
606
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.839
you know, I don't know if I necessarily want to
607
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:00.640
go into this part of the conversation yet, but it's
608
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.279
kind of my big issue with the movie is that
609
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:06.920
it really is only half the story. And I think
610
00:31:06.920 --> 00:31:09.119
a lot of people coming into this are already fans
611
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.319
and know the whole story. But for us, I'm kind
612
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:14.599
of looking at this and the movie ends and I
613
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.200
feel sort of like I feel like we were just
614
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:20.640
getting started, and I think where the film ends is
615
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.599
where we're Part one ends, is where Act one ends
616
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.759
in the Broadway play, like that is the curtain drop
617
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.400
moment after that performance, it's like boom and intermission and
618
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.079
you're like, wow, you know, I could see how the
619
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:34.799
energy like would carry you through intermission and then you
620
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.880
come into the second half of the story. But because
621
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.440
like because this is only one half of the film,
622
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.480
there's just stuff that's like set up that I don't
623
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:48.519
fully understand, Like the animals, I don't know enough. I
624
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.319
don't remember in the film, the original like the Wizard
625
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:54.599
of Oz the film, I haven't read the book. I
626
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.359
don't remember there being such a big thing about like
627
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:00.279
animals talking, and now they're not going to talk. Mind
628
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.039
to be of like Narnia, Like like I am I
629
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:07.920
getting my fantasy stories confused, Like what is the point
630
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:11.039
of this? Why doesn't the Wizard want the animals to talk?
631
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:14.400
What am I missing? And they don't really talk about
632
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.960
it much. They kind of hint at there's like this
633
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.079
big thing and the animals are all like there, we've
634
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:21.279
got to fight back and we've got to figure this out.
635
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.839
And then it's a part of the film and it
636
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.559
almost plays second fiddle to everything else going on between
637
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.079
the characters and their emotional relationships.
638
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.559
But like that kind of confused me.
639
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:36.480
And I'm like, well, maybe this will play out in
640
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:39.720
part two, But nobody ever explained, like is there a
641
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.640
reason why we don't want animals to talk?
642
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:43.720
Is it because humans?
643
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.880
Because Oz is a human and is like humans are
644
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.799
going to rule and we're taking over this. Like they
645
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:51.519
never explain it, and I'm like, if that's going to
646
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.720
be in part two, great, But also like there wasn't
647
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.440
enough in part one for this to feel like its
648
00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.720
own standalone story for me to understand what's going on.
649
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:06.319
Yeah, I I feel like they only really addressed it
650
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.119
at the very end, and then obviously so much stuff other,
651
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.519
you know, happens, so you're kind kind of glaze over
652
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.720
it and you move past it. So I'm assuming they'll
653
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.440
get into it in the second part, but I don't know.
654
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.359
It's a good question. I mean, I'm I just assume that,
655
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.839
like with anything, it's like, oh, people or they don't
656
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.880
have prejudice, Yes, they have prejudiced. They want to, you know,
657
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.480
get rid of things that make them money.
658
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.559
That's my question is like, well, what is the land
659
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:31.640
of Oz? And again bringing it back to Narnia, and
660
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.200
Narnia was like, oh, the magical creatures live there and
661
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.160
the animals will talk, So it's like, okay, it seems
662
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.000
like here it's the same. The animals were here originally
663
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.720
they're all talking. Why are people suddenly not into that?
664
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.680
Like it's that's what I'm confused, not understanding the world
665
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:50.480
building of OZ.
666
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.279
Like what is what is the context for this?
667
00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:54.480
And again, I don't know if that'll be explained or
668
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.839
if it was just something that was kind of sort
669
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:57.759
of rushed over.
670
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.559
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not feeling that.
671
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:03.319
Was I think that kind of it didn't argue like
672
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:04.839
it's not enough to be like, oh my god, that
673
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.680
ruined everything. But I was like, this is a little confusing,
674
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.480
and I think maybe the weaknesses I had, or the
675
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.480
problems I have with the film are strictly coming down
676
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.119
to like, well, what's going to happen like what happens
677
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:20.719
in part two, which is kind of like, I think
678
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.840
an argument for us doing both of them in one episode.
679
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.360
But I think, because it's its own film, let's judge
680
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.960
it as that and then watch wa good for Good
681
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.079
and judge that one on its own terms.
682
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:34.960
But I there's a.
683
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.039
Part of me already that feels like this could have
684
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.000
been one movie. Probably there was a lot of I
685
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.880
was reading about the production and like, oh, we need
686
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:43.639
to displait.
687
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:44.440
It because we didn't want to cut.
688
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.480
We thought if we didn't make it two movies, we'd
689
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.280
have to cut so much and it would ruin the
690
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:51.199
whole thing.
691
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:53.440
And I'm kind of like maybe.
692
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.880
But the film, this first part is two hours forty
693
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.039
plus minutes. It's long, but it we were talking about it.
694
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.280
The pacing is pretty solid. It doesn't really It's never boring.
695
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.400
I didn't feel the length much, no.
696
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.800
But I started to feel it. I think when they
697
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.599
get to Emerald City and Oz, Yeah, that's where I
698
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:18.800
started to feel it, because we've kind of established this world,
699
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.440
We've established the school, the characters there, the dynamic and
700
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.320
the relationship, and then when they go to Emerald City,
701
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:28.400
it's like, and now we're gonna tell a whole different
702
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.599
Like now we're going to start a whole new story.
703
00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.320
And then suddenly it's like Oz isn't really magical and
704
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:40.960
we've been training l a alpha bum. Sorry, I'm sorry,
705
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:45.159
Please don't yell at me on Twitter, Cynthia, But like
706
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.920
it just felt like there's a lot of information happening
707
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:52.719
in this final quarter of the film that is like
708
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.079
all set up for the second part, and I think
709
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.679
that kind of it makes sense, but it felt to
710
00:35:57.719 --> 00:35:59.960
me like that's where I started to feel the leaf
711
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.039
a little bit and was like, where is this going?
712
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.360
I really am interested to see what happens in part two,
713
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.840
And but I don't know, how did you feel about that?
714
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:13.000
Did you feel any of that? Okay, I don't know.
715
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.639
I just like I was really engaged the whole time.
716
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.519
I think, so I I kind of have to wait
717
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:23.559
and see what part it feels like to make that decision.
718
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:26.159
I think, but based on just part one, I'm good.
719
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:27.880
I'm excited to feel it too.
720
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:29.920
Yeah, I didn't really and I'm working. Yeah.
721
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.480
Well, it's also like I don't know what they're setting
722
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:39.719
like again with with Cynthia sorry Aba, with her being
723
00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:42.239
like suddenly like the wizard is It's just like such
724
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.679
a sudden switch where she's like I'm going off on
725
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.039
my own and I'm the wicked witch and.
726
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.280
They've created her or they've turned her into the face
727
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:50.800
of evil.
728
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.840
It just felt so quick. It felt so quick, like
729
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:54.719
they set her up for that. Yeah, and there's a
730
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:56.880
part of me that feels like the mysterious stranger who
731
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:01.320
is feeding the green elixir to her mother is ash Yeah,
732
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.920
and created her because he wanted a magical creature that
733
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:09.639
he could manipulate. I just felt like, this is a
734
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.960
lot of information and suddenly it's the end of the movie.
735
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.599
And not only that, it was like the movie was
736
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:21.360
almost taken out of Alphaba and Glinda's hands, like they
737
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:25.599
were kind of just participants. And you know, I loved
738
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.840
the like the scene between them, I love defying gravity,
739
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:31.480
that whole sequence of them, But it felt like the
740
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.920
movie was like, this is the climactic moment of this film,
741
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:34.800
and it felt.
742
00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.440
Like it's just a setup for part two.
743
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:39.519
I don't know, I'm trying to explain it, but I
744
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.360
think maybe that's it. It just felt a little bit
745
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.440
like this is really going to hinge on, Like what
746
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.159
is the rest of this story for me?
747
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.760
Yeah, I think you're right. I do wonder if, like
748
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.239
we had a different experience of having to wait like
749
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:56.679
a year between movies, if maybe that's part of the
750
00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:59.440
issue of these people coming back a year later and
751
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.480
watching it versus just like watching it as it's intended
752
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.679
to back. So I am curious about that. But yeah,
753
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:10.400
I mean, like I said, I I was cool with it.
754
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.840
I don't really feel like it was missing anything or
755
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.119
went too long, or you know, but let's see what
756
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.639
part two feels like first, to like, really see if
757
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.400
my thoughts remain the same.
758
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:23.679
It's hard to judge this movie.
759
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:24.199
It is.
760
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:25.480
It's a good movie.
761
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:28.039
It's part one of two. It's complete.
762
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.760
You know, you need the whole thing. But I did
763
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.119
want to ask you because it wasn't completely clear to me,
764
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:35.960
and maybe I need to rewatch. I don't think know
765
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.880
if I missed any signals. But in before the Defying
766
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.599
Gravity you know song, but on the balcony, right, is
767
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.280
Glinda going to go with her or not? Because I
768
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.079
feel like she is and she gets pulled away, but
769
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.679
she seems like she was kind of waffling where she's like, oh,
770
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.599
but you're cold, let me get you a cloak. She
771
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:57.840
doesn't like answer. Did you get the sense of her?
772
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.880
I bet she did know what she wanted to do. Yeah,
773
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.079
and she but she loved like I think she decided
774
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:06.480
like I can't. And that's again where it becomes really complex,
775
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.639
and there was a lot of stuff happening. I think
776
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.519
that's part of the problem, honestly, with the this whole
777
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.880
finale of the film and the fact that it's not
778
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:15.639
a conclusion.
779
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:18.480
It just felt like, oh.
780
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:23.639
Oz is bad, but why why is Glinda okay with
781
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.320
him being bad? What exactly is going on with the
782
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:28.840
animals that it's like he's so evil he wants to
783
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.280
stop the animals from talking.
784
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.519
Like I was like, well they know something.
785
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:36.280
Yeah, But I'm like, is it like she now knows
786
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:38.559
Alphaba knows that he is not magical.
787
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:40.679
Everyone in that room knows that he is not magical.
788
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.519
But to me, it was like, why wouldn't Glinda be like,
789
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:45.119
oh my god, everything I knew was a lie.
790
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:46.119
Of course they'll come with you.
791
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.760
It feels weird that she would then be like, I'm
792
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.760
just gonna and maybe that's her She's.
793
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.559
A people pleaser. Yeah, so I think that played a
794
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.679
big part of it. But I also think you're describing
795
00:39:57.719 --> 00:40:00.079
a cliffhanger, which is, yeah, maybe I.
796
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:00.599
Don't like that.
797
00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:02.360
Halfway Well, that's what I'm saying.
798
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:04.960
This is the halfway point of the story. So it's
799
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.360
like that the movie ends, you know, So I'm like
800
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.440
complaining about things that maybe will get well I assume
801
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.480
will get resolved in part two. But it's why I'm
802
00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:16.599
kind of like, should this have just been a single movie?
803
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:21.519
Which brings us to our next point, which is Wicked
804
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:24.000
for Good. When the film was released, I think there
805
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:26.639
was an assumption like, this is gonna be amazing. Everyone's
806
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:29.079
gonna love it, all the bands, Yeah, everyone was so
807
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:33.599
excited for it, and the immediate reaction coming out of
808
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:37.400
it of people you knew, people I knew who love yeah,
809
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.840
which I'm like, how are you disappointed?
810
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:41.159
If you're a fan of the play?
811
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:41.960
Baffled?
812
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:47.280
What happened that changed your opinion so dramatically that you
813
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.679
decided like this thing that you already knew the story of,
814
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.760
You already knew the story. What what did this movie
815
00:40:55.800 --> 00:40:58.599
do that upset you so much? Yeah? Because your friend
816
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:02.199
Emily was genuinely like, oh I didn't like it at all,
817
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:05.320
And it's like, I'm just so baffled. I'm like, it's
818
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.000
the same thing as if people who read Harry Potter
819
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.079
and The Deathly Hallows loved the book and then went
820
00:41:11.159 --> 00:41:13.760
into part two and they were like, oh, part two sucked.
821
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.079
It's like, well, what did you think was gonna happen?
822
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:16.400
Well?
823
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.119
Yeah, And I had a few people that saw it
824
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.159
that loved the first one that felt let down. But
825
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.519
that's all I got because I was like, well, I
826
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.920
don't want to get spoiled, so like, don't tell me anything,
827
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.960
but I'm I'm really curious. I think the one thing
828
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.199
that we both know that we've talked about is maybe
829
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:35.719
the music isn't as strong and people.
830
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.679
Maybe that's I think that's part of it. There are
831
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:41.320
a couple of songs they wrote for the movie exclusively
832
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:44.480
because they realized we don't have enough music, and I
833
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.199
think what I've heard. I talked with Richie about it,
834
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:49.960
because Richie saw it, and Richie Richie enjoyed it, but
835
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.639
he said he thinks it's because of like, well, the
836
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.000
first one is a little bit more well rounded, like
837
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:57.559
there's fun stuff and there's serious stuff, and this one
838
00:41:57.639 --> 00:41:58.519
is like very dark.
839
00:41:58.880 --> 00:41:59.840
Yeah, depressing.
840
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:00.719
I can see that.
841
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.159
I mean, and you know, honestly, again, maybe when we
842
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.760
come back and do Wicked for Good, it will be
843
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.000
just like this should have just.
844
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.480
Been one movie.
845
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.800
This should have been one movie because I'm so curious
846
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:16.159
to see how I will feel. I hope I'm in
847
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:17.880
the minority and I love it.
848
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:22.360
Well, you know, the reviews, the critic reviews were pretty mixed,
849
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.800
and then the fan reaction was kind of mixed too,
850
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.320
But the movie made decent money. It didn't make as much.
851
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.239
It didn't do as well as the first one, but
852
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:35.960
it still made a profit. Honestly, any money, I think
853
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:37.719
because they filmed these back to back, I think any
854
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:38.239
money is.
855
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:39.719
A profit after the first one.
856
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:45.079
Yeah, yeah, so that I think was the primary motivator
857
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.079
for splitting it into two parts, was to try to
858
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:51.440
make more money. But I am just so curious because
859
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.320
I genuinely as a fan of this first film, I'm like,
860
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:55.079
where is this going?
861
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:55.960
Like what happens?
862
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.840
And then I'm just so curious about like also what
863
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:05.360
made it so upsetting to people who already love this story.
864
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.440
And you know what I'm excited about, because you know,
865
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:13.039
I love Fiarro, Yes, is that he very clearly like
866
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.480
he heard the news about Alphaba being like the big
867
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:18.760
bad and he'd gotten his horse and he lived, and
868
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.400
you know he's going to her. And I'm like, yes,
869
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:23.840
because I want to see that, Like that is.
870
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.840
Like my that was a really sweet unrequited love.
871
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.039
Yeah thing too, which also, yeah, you.
872
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.960
Had a little love triangle without it feeling icky. It
873
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:35.639
was just very like organic, And you know, I think
874
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.840
I'm really curious to see how that flushes out. I
875
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.960
think it's going to be a bigger part of the story.
876
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:41.360
I hope.
877
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.599
So yeah, I mean, I hope, Yeah, I don't. I hope.
878
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:46.840
I'm like wishful thinking because I just want more Jonathan
879
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:49.880
Bailey on my screen. But the fact that he was
880
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.239
just like, yeah, I'm out, like I'm gonna go see her,
881
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.280
It's like in his character arc has been great.
882
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.400
Well, yeah, from what we've seen of it, half the
883
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.559
first half of it is really Yeah.
884
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.800
I know, I'm like, please keep going that direction. Yeah,
885
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:07.960
but yeah, I mean I think it's going to be darker.
886
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.079
I think we know there's maybe less power ballads or something,
887
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.480
you know people, so maybe that's an insane I am
888
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.079
okay with it being darker. That does not mean anything
889
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.880
negative to me. Like, if it's done, well, I'm good.
890
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:28.239
Uh so, I am really really curious. Yeah, I'm so
891
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.760
glad we're gonna Why did we wait so long? My goodness,
892
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.400
we are obviously I'm glad that I'm psychotic. And I
893
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.239
was like, yeah, you need to get this for me
894
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.599
for Christmas, the four K Steel book whatever, And then
895
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.960
I also got the double vinyl and I've never I.
896
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.199
Was like, speaking of which one of your favorite songs?
897
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:56.079
Oh gosh, I mean defying gravity. I guess yeah. It's
898
00:44:56.119 --> 00:44:59.119
hard to like look away from that popular. I feel
899
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:00.559
like I'm choosing all Yeah.
900
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.320
The Wizard and I was really good.
901
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.000
That was the one where she's singing about yeah, like
902
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.599
going to see the Wizard and.
903
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:11.480
Oh yeah, that's really good. I don't know the names
904
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:11.920
of the song.
905
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:13.679
I just read that one.
906
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.679
Fierro's intro song is wonderful. The Library that.
907
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.039
That was probably one of my favorites, if not my favorite,
908
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:23.159
just the choreography with the spinning library books.
909
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:27.960
I also really loved the choreography and the musical number
910
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.639
between I can't remember his name, but Alphaba's sister who's
911
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.239
in the wheelchair, and the little dance number they do
912
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:39.320
what is it bo? I think he's the munchkin. I
913
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:40.880
can't remember his name.
914
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:42.960
And you said he's married to Ariana.
915
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:48.840
He's dating dating, they're dating. Good for them, but I
916
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.840
can't I can't remember the name of that song. I
917
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.079
gotta look at well, I gotta go get my vinyl records.
918
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.320
And the song the Feeling like when they hate each other,
919
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:57.880
the song each Other that.
920
00:45:57.760 --> 00:45:58.360
Was really good too.
921
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:00.960
It's honestly kind of hard to pick a favorite. It's
922
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.280
a really and maybe again maybe that's why we're like, oh,
923
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:05.440
it's a perfect score.
924
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.280
Oh and we got a great cameo from Adel Dezime.
925
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.039
It was Adana Menzel and who is the other one?
926
00:46:13.079 --> 00:46:14.480
Your original Broadway?
927
00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.760
Yeah, and they got a whole little sequence which was
928
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:18.199
really love.
929
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:19.960
That is something I said to you after the movie.
930
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:21.840
I said, Wow, I'm so glad they didn't just give
931
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:24.320
them kind of like a throwaway cameo, but they put
932
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.000
the spotlight on these ladies who pioneered these roles and
933
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:28.639
like did it.
934
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:29.960
So that was really cool.
935
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:32.360
Yeah, I thought that was that was so great. And
936
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.440
then playing off each I mean, it was just perfect.
937
00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:35.039
It was great.
938
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.320
I feel like we should, like, unceremoniously just stop this conversation,
939
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:42.679
like just have it awkwardly cut off, and they'll say
940
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.559
to be continued, because that's I feel like what.
941
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.440
This film did to me, and so I want to
942
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:48.880
make my audience.
943
00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:50.639
Suffer super happy with But I.
944
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.239
Feel like, honestly, maybe this is I mean, in this
945
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:56.840
day and age, that's something that's almost a given. Now
946
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.480
there's so many part ones and part two. I deathly
947
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.119
hallows a pass because I'm a massive Harry Potter fan,
948
00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:06.440
and that felt like a generational like, Yeah, let's extend
949
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.199
this a little bit longer.
950
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:10.199
Let's extend the ending a little bit longer.
951
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:13.960
But I don't think I've enjoyed many other like mocking
952
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:16.440
Ja Part one and two. Well, Breaking Dawn Part two
953
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:20.320
was pretty fantastic, just for the climactic finale that wasn't
954
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:20.840
in the book.
955
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:22.159
What else.
956
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:23.920
I feel like there's just a lot of part ones
957
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:25.719
in part two. So I feel like in some ways.
958
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.239
I'm it is kind of the standard.
959
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.880
Yeah, I kind of am used to it, but also
960
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:35.719
I just when it bring, when it potentially brings down
961
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.920
the story as a whole, is what my concern is,
962
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:40.159
and that I feel.
963
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.679
Like you are concerned about something that has not happened yet.
964
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.159
We don't know, We don't know, but I'm speaking on
965
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.280
behalf of the people who love it who aren't necessarily
966
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:49.159
like they were.
967
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:49.800
Like, I don't know why.
968
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.480
I'm like it might be because these two parts should
969
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:54.719
be a single story.
970
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.159
Well, if you treat it as like an intermission and
971
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.159
you pop the next disc in, does it make a
972
00:47:59.199 --> 00:47:59.800
mental disc I.
973
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Feel for you to have an advantage there, Like, I
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really do think like it's gonna be easier for us, Like.
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I said, waiting a year, year and a half or
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whatever between films.
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That's kind of hard to go into a movie theater
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and if the movie's depressing, like yeah, let's go, We're
979
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:14.000
going to celebrate, and then it's like, all right, that
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00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:15.239
was sad, let's go.
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00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:15.760
Yeah.
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You know, it's different than if you got to have
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both of them in one go. So I am genuinely
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00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.880
excited for part two. I really enjoyed this. I thought
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00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:28.840
it was great. Definitely. It's so funny because I remember
986
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.039
when it came out and it got such accolades and
987
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.880
was getting nominated, nominated for so much. I was just
988
00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:35.440
so shocked because I was like, I just was not
989
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.760
on my radar. I'm just you know, it was very
990
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:41.960
surprising and interesting to see that everyone kind of embraced it.
991
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:46.920
So I think that's completely understandable now and very curious
992
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.880
to see why nobody embraced We Can for Good, which
993
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:52.760
got completely shut out of the Oscars.
994
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:57.920
Yeah. Everything, it's just like a completely opposite experience.
995
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.880
And I think something, I feel like we're going to
996
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:02.760
go feel like I liked it more than the first part.
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00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:04.239
And it's going to be a weird conversation.
998
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.320
But anything else, anything else, we're missing anything?
999
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:12.199
Uh, any highlights or low points for you.
1000
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.440
I think it kind of already touched on all that points.
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00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:19.360
Low points. No. I mean, like maybe I'll have a
1002
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.199
more critical eye on future viewings, but for now, I'm
1003
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.840
kind of feeling high of how joyous and beautiful this
1004
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.519
movie was, and like you can, I mean, every actor
1005
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:32.440
brought their a game, This is cast so incredibly well,
1006
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:33.480
like there's no.
1007
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.039
Everything about it is great.
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00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.760
Yeah, It's just it was like visually stunning and beautiful
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and it moved me. And those are the movies that
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00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.480
you know, I remember that. They're the ones that really
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00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:51.440
make you feel, like Nicole Kidman says, this is why,
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00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.639
But no, I I do. I think my little low
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00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.840
point is not being like on the hype train to
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00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:00.239
go see this in theaters and be a part of
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00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.239
like the cultural phenomenon that it was at that time.
1016
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:07.280
I'm a little bummed. I am a total fangirl for
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00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:09.679
lots of different things, and I'm kind of I don't
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00:50:09.719 --> 00:50:13.840
know why I'm missed out on this one. I'm sure we.
1019
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.159
Did it with Hamilton too, where everyone was over Hamilton
1020
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:16.719
and we were.
1021
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:19.239
Like, guys, if you learned of Hamilton, it's amazing. So
1022
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:20.599
we could do the same thing with Wicked.
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00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:24.599
Now, I think, yeah, that's why it'll just be our thing.
1024
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.440
Yeah, see see Superman in theaters five times. Don't see Wicked.
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00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:32.000
And then two years later start talking about Wicked.
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00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:35.159
We're gonna we're going to bring back the hype for
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00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:37.920
Wicked and maybe for Wicked for good.
1028
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:42.199
Yeah, we're going to be the apologetics that raise its
1029
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:46.199
pedigree to another level. And as the misunderstood, it's going
1030
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:49.440
to be the Godfather part two of musicals about the
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00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:50.239
Wizard of Oz.
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00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:52.559
You know, I will like And maybe it's because they're
1033
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.840
both musicals. But I haven't felt this like giddy doing
1034
00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.599
this podcast with like since Hamilton. That was the last
1035
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.360
time I was like, Hamilton was so good.
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00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:03.920
But it was also like neither of us have seen
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00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:04.559
it neither.
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00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:06.559
It was fun to experience.
1039
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.159
I feel the same way here. That was so much fun.
1040
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.960
Like I loved laughing with you and crying and like
1041
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:16.800
just it was a really like fun experience And I'm
1042
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:17.840
glad we got to do this.
1043
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.920
It's really good. So what's our rating system? How many
1044
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.000
pointy hats? How many gravity's are we defying?
1045
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.920
I mean, whatever we're doing. For me, it's five stars,
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00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:29.519
hands down.
1047
00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.559
I will give it four because it is there's no conclusion,
1048
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.159
so I can't give it the I'm rolling.
1049
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:41.800
To give it that perfect five, but four. I still think.
1050
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.440
Maybe you will go back and change your score.
1051
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:48.559
I'm curious after I watch part two, hopefully.
1052
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.320
I am very excited to see what we think of that.
1053
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.159
And we'll probably have to do an episode soon because
1054
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.239
I would rather do that sooner rather than later.
1055
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:57.000
Oh yeah, I'm ready.
1056
00:51:57.679 --> 00:52:00.760
That's that's all. That's it great. Go see it if
1057
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.440
you I don't know if you've heard of it. It's
1058
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.440
very very popular. Now that we have seen it and
1059
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:06.480
can give it our seal.
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00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.480
Of approval, we know you've been waiting, so go check
1061
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it out.
1062
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:11.559
And Sarah, thank you for being a part of this
1063
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.920
wonderful experience, and thank you everybody for listening. Find me
1064
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.239
on Twitter at y shondor Man. I'm also on Instagram
1065
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:23.679
Shondorman and on letterbox at shondorman or five. Thank you
1066
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.159
again for all your support and we will see you
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at the movie.
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It is our le