PSA NSCC Prices, Violent Crimes at Shows, July 4th Baseball Memories & USA World Cup Effects E394

WEBVTT
1
00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:26.280
Hey, good morning sports cards fans, and welcome to Hobby
2
00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:29.800
Hotline on four Collectors. My name is Dan. I am
3
00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.119
joined by two of my favorite guys in the entire hobby.
4
00:00:33.159 --> 00:00:36.640
I'm so excited about this. We got a Orlando good
5
00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:37.679
morning sir, How are.
6
00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:41.200
You good morning? Dan? Doing great? And Uncle Rich we got.
7
00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:45.479
We got Uncle Ridge down there in bal Meat, Texas.
8
00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:46.479
How are you Uncle Rich?
9
00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:50.000
Cooler than you are? In book City.
10
00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.439
We were at one hundred and four yesterday and then
11
00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:57.200
this massive thunderstorm comes in like it only lasted for
12
00:00:57.240 --> 00:00:59.159
like a half an hour, but there were trees knocked
13
00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.079
down and everything. It was crazy. And then it dropped
14
00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:05.079
to like the seventies. It literally went down like thirty degrees.
15
00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:08.000
But it's back up again, so we'll be all right.
16
00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.480
Yeah, not used to this before we went on live.
17
00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:13.640
The young guys are.
18
00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:19.879
No, here's a rarity. I'm the youngest guy on the screen.
19
00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:24.319
Yeah, so hard, I should say, are more.
20
00:01:24.120 --> 00:01:27.400
Than That's a And I'm glad you brought that up
21
00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:30.319
because as as our chat fills up a little bit,
22
00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.400
and we'll visit with the chat in a second. It's
23
00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:38.920
it's July fourth, and I volunteered to do this show.
24
00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:41.359
John John was looking for a host, and I said,
25
00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.840
I'll do July fourth. I got stuff going on later
26
00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:45.799
in the day, but eleven o'clock in the morning, I
27
00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:49.159
had nothing to do, and I'm excited about this. America
28
00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.079
two fifty. I'm old enough. We're both ra old enough.
29
00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:58.359
America two hundred, nineteen seventy six. I was twelve years
30
00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.319
old and my folks took us in from Long Island
31
00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.159
to New York to see the tall ships, and it
32
00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.120
was an experience. I still remember it, and it was,
33
00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.080
you know, it was a big deal. Seventeen seventy six,
34
00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.639
nineteen seventy six. It was a big deal. And so
35
00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:17.520
what I'd like to do is start off the show.
36
00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.439
I'll say hello to the chat, but also to talk
37
00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:22.240
about some fun stuff before we get into the not
38
00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.879
so fun stuff. We've got. We got some July fourth
39
00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:29.639
memories because baseball and July fourth are interconnected, and we'll
40
00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.039
get to some of the big ones. But they used
41
00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:35.719
to play double headers every July fourth. They don't do
42
00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:38.080
that anymore. I wish they did, and affect some teams
43
00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.639
are off on July fourth, depending upon what day of
44
00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.479
the week it is. Of course, everybody's going to play today.
45
00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.000
But so anyway, let me just say hello over to
46
00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:46.639
the chat and we'll come back. We'll talk about some
47
00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.680
July fourth stuff we've got. Mad City Brew was first
48
00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:54.800
in here. Good morning, sir Scott. How are you? Stuke
49
00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:58.000
was in the was in the Carlos live stream last
50
00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:03.560
night until until the bitter end. Vintage card collector for
51
00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.919
three three. Happy birthday to America indeed, July fourth, Always
52
00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:13.000
love this day. Good morning to everyone, Rick, Rick oz
53
00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:17.240
Bunn Okay, not familiar, but hello sir, Peter B. Of course,
54
00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.520
how are you, sir? Thank you Peter B for doing
55
00:03:19.560 --> 00:03:23.039
that VR for me. I think you really nailed it
56
00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.479
on that one. Jim at the Bank, Hello, Jim Abe
57
00:03:26.479 --> 00:03:31.159
in Vegas, Good morning, happy happy two fifty exactly. That
58
00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:35.280
is Ruben Sneyder Confluence Sports Card. Zach Pierce again another
59
00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:40.240
another guy who was in Carlos till late last night. Indeed,
60
00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:44.159
great group. Very happy to have these two gentlemen with
61
00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:47.319
me today. Mike Jay Hawker, Good morning and happy fourth
62
00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:50.520
doctor Larry, how are you, sir? Thank you for your
63
00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:59.599
wonderful comments on my newest video. Whoa Eric? Eric's making
64
00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.439
the joke there we go. See we we've already made
65
00:04:02.479 --> 00:04:05.319
the joke. So Eric, you're you're you're behind the times
66
00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:08.039
here as you uh tall trips, it's tall ships in
67
00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.280
Newport and seventy six. Yeah, we had it down in
68
00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:14.840
South Street Seaport in Manhattan. But uh uh uh there
69
00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:18.800
he is the Rickey cards specialists and uh happy to
70
00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:23.439
see you this morning, sir. Uh collect Washington and Lincoln cards. Yeah,
71
00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:25.680
I don't know. I got an important I got an
72
00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:30.199
important person in uh General Sherman won the won the
73
00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:32.360
Civil War for us. If you know the Civil War,
74
00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.079
you know. Good morning, Philly, Joe. How are you? Doctor
75
00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.759
Gitlan campedon Colorado with his future wife? There you go,
76
00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:44.639
not sdy, doctor, I've met you. I don't think you're
77
00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.920
that Oh it's cold time, so I haven't stopped talking.
78
00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.759
We're five minutes in Orlando before I bring up some
79
00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:55.759
some photographs of from baseball in July fourth. Tell me
80
00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:56.800
about July fourth.
81
00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.920
For you, Well, I mean July fourth doesn't mean a lot,
82
00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.360
because I celebrate July fourth every single day being here
83
00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:07.079
in America. As a person I was born in Cuba
84
00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:12.480
or born into unfortunately the socialists or communism, you know,
85
00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:15.279
coming to this country was the greatest thing that ever
86
00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.519
happened to me. So I celebrate every single day that
87
00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:20.920
I'm in this country because it is the greatest country
88
00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.879
in the world and I've experienced you know what, see free.
89
00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:28.000
So to me, you know, July fourth is a day,
90
00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:30.800
but every single day that I'm in the United States
91
00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.199
is a gift. And you know, I could quickly share
92
00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.800
my story if you want to hear it, but you know,
93
00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:40.040
give me a few minutes and I'll talk a little
94
00:05:40.040 --> 00:05:41.680
bit about it. You know, I was born in Cuba.
95
00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:43.600
I came here when I was four years old. My
96
00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:48.000
family was pretty well to do family. Both my parents
97
00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.480
had master's degree. My dad was the senior vice president
98
00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:54.839
at the Bank of Havana. You know, we were in Cuba,
99
00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:59.040
you know, until nineteen sixty, right after Fidel came in.
100
00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:02.879
My dad was not with Fidel. He was against Fidel.
101
00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.399
So he was going to be thrown in jail basically,
102
00:06:05.560 --> 00:06:11.560
just for disagreeing with the Communist government. And we had
103
00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:14.160
to come to this country. And we came to this country.
104
00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.800
We were coming to Miami, and in those days you
105
00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.560
had to have a sponsor. My grandfather had come earlier.
106
00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.920
The government had taken away both of his He owned
107
00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:27.680
two groceries and the government took them away, and you know,
108
00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:30.240
made up a government grocery. So he came to Miami
109
00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.839
and then he was got the visa to be our
110
00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:35.759
sponsor to bring us in. And because that's the only way,
111
00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:37.879
they didn't give you any handouts, you had to have
112
00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:40.120
somebody that would be able to support you. So when
113
00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:41.680
we got to the airport, you know, and I was
114
00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:43.959
four years my sister was three, my other sister was
115
00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:48.680
six months old, they literally found out that we were
116
00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:51.160
not you know, we were with Battista. So they took
117
00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.319
away everything we had, all our luggage, all our clothes,
118
00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:57.399
my mother's wedding ring, everything. Instead of sending us to Miami,
119
00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.800
they sent us out to Honduras. And you know, eventually
120
00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:05.160
we were able to get to Miami and live a
121
00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.639
great life here. But you know, what you hear about
122
00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:14.680
communism is all true. They you know, they promise everything
123
00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.959
and they don't give anything. And you know, I my dad,
124
00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.800
my parents and grandparents always told me the story and
125
00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:23.639
I've gone back and read even though I was a
126
00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.839
young kid. You know, they promised everything, Dan, you know,
127
00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:31.319
everything you hear today. The free healthcare, the free schools,
128
00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:35.959
the free you know, government handouts, the government grocery stores.
129
00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:40.519
All of that was promised. And yeah, you have free education,
130
00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.199
but there's no job to take after your you get
131
00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:49.439
your education. You know, doctors and teachers there today are
132
00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:53.519
making fifteen to twenty dollars a month, and that's a month,
133
00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:58.240
five dollars a week working full time. The hospitals there's
134
00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:02.240
nothing there. There's no medicine. All you know, gone to crap.
135
00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.959
You know, try to go to the hospital, you can't go.
136
00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:07.040
You have to wait some months just to go to
137
00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.040
the hospital. They don't have any anything there. The free
138
00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:14.560
food they promised, they give you what's called the Livetta,
139
00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.000
which is a little book that tells you what you
140
00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:19.920
can get every month. And basically what you get is
141
00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.519
nothing anymore. You have to stand in line to get
142
00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:25.000
a piece of bread and some rice. That's all there
143
00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.759
is in these grocery stores. When they tell you that,
144
00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.240
you know what they did was they limited the capitalism.
145
00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.600
So my dad had built a brand new house, the
146
00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:36.960
government took it away. The government took away all business,
147
00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.320
They privatized everything. No capitalism anymore. They all the people
148
00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.559
that had money, they were taxed or at taxed so
149
00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:48.240
much that eventually, you know, because everybody's supposed to be
150
00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:52.000
equal in socialists, in communist government, everybody's supposed to be equal,
151
00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:55.720
what ends up is everybody's equally poor. And at the end,
152
00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.120
you know, they don't have enough money to take from
153
00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.080
the rich because either the rich came to Miami or
154
00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.039
they left, or they became poor. And when it gets
155
00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:07.559
to a point that just they're desperate. And then what
156
00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:10.200
they end up doing is they have what they call
157
00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.159
the go mite, the committee, which is what they do
158
00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:16.559
is they have a few communist people in your block
159
00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:19.279
that are the people that are like the snitches. So
160
00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.840
they will tell the government just to get a little
161
00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:25.879
more food, a little more stuff. They tell the government
162
00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:29.080
what's going on, who's talking bad about the government. You know,
163
00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:31.919
who's going doing things in the black market, who's doing
164
00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:34.840
stuff illegally, if you're putting your air conditioner on, if
165
00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:36.639
you have an air conditioner, but if you're turning it
166
00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.799
on when you can't, not supposed to those types of things.
167
00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.879
And at the end, you know, look look how they
168
00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.919
are today. All the infrastructure is gone, it's not been modernized,
169
00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.639
in you know years, the same thing happened in Venezuela,
170
00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.480
the richest country, where the richest country in South America
171
00:09:53.559 --> 00:09:57.240
became the poorest country. Cuba, which was one of the
172
00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.960
richest countries in the area, with beautiful scene. They had
173
00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.720
all the latest cars back in these which they still
174
00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.200
have today, all those cars, and you know the people
175
00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.679
that drive those are government employees, no private but you
176
00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:13.919
have a little business which they allow. Now the government
177
00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:18.039
takes most of that money. And basically, you know, it's
178
00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.480
the poorest country in the world. People are starving. The
179
00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.759
only people that have money that are the government. And
180
00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.960
most of the Cubans that came to Miami. We made Miami.
181
00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:33.000
We made Miami the biggest and best international city in
182
00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.559
the world. And that's because of all of the top
183
00:10:36.600 --> 00:10:40.120
business equal and the smartest people in Cuba left once
184
00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.759
they realized what was going on. So that's why I
185
00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:45.639
say that I celebrate your life for every single day
186
00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:49.159
because to me, you know, this is the best country.
187
00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:52.039
And when you get a government like that, the only
188
00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:54.159
people that have money or make money are the people
189
00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:57.240
that are in the government, and everybody else is the same.
190
00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.720
They're all poor. So it's the best country in the world.
191
00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:04.240
I appreciate every single day that I came here. You know,
192
00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:07.000
since my family came and we had no money, my
193
00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:09.919
moms didn't throw anything away. That's why I saved. She
194
00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:13.039
saved all my baseball cards and that's what got me
195
00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.559
back into baseball. And you know, going to the baseball
196
00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.840
field talking Cuba, and I know I'm talking a lot,
197
00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.399
but it's just to me. This is I can't tell
198
00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.919
you how great this country is. And those people that
199
00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.919
live in America all their life don't realize how country is.
200
00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.759
But you know, some of the greatest players were in
201
00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:32.200
Cuba and they came here, people like like Mini Minoso
202
00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:36.080
and Tony Perez. Later on you had players like Jose Canseco,
203
00:11:36.279 --> 00:11:41.080
Rafael Pobero and you know players even you know, my
204
00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:45.039
greatest thrill I think was watching Levon Hernandez win the
205
00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.799
World Series at the Marlins and say, you know, I
206
00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.879
love Miami because he was able to get out of
207
00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:56.159
Cuba along with his brother Orlando or El Duque. And
208
00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.360
you know, even today we have some of the greatest
209
00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:04.159
of Cuban players here with our oldest Chapman, you have
210
00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.360
Jordan Alvarez and players like that that are still playing
211
00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.440
in the majors, and that's Miguel Gonzalez.
212
00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:11.279
Right, yep, yep.
213
00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.759
And you know, I think my biggest story I think
214
00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:19.440
I'll tell is a player which was supposed to be
215
00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:23.639
one of the biggest superstars. Jose Fernandez. He died ten
216
00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.960
years ago. You remember a pitcher for the Martins, Jose
217
00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:30.120
her Netfertis, Yes, Fernandez. He died at twenty four years
218
00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.360
old and fourteen of voting on him. But he tried
219
00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:36.039
to leave Cuba three times, and he was caught every time,
220
00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.320
you know, in the rickety rafts that he had made,
221
00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.080
rafts that they would try to bring he'd come here
222
00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.120
in that way, and hundreds and thousands of poole died
223
00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:48.000
coming through that Gulf of Mexico stretch, you know. And
224
00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.240
that's not talking about the hundreds and thousands of pool
225
00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:53.159
that were shot and killed in a firing squad in
226
00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.759
Cuba because they were against the government. But the story
227
00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:59.399
on Jose Fernandez is he was caught the first two
228
00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.039
times that he was was trying to come to this
229
00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.559
country and brought back to Cuba. The third time he
230
00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:08.919
came and brought his mother here. And when he Unfortunately,
231
00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.799
on the way here his mother, they had a big
232
00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:14.799
storm and his mother fell off the boat and drowned.
233
00:13:14.799 --> 00:13:17.279
And he made it to this country, and he was
234
00:13:17.320 --> 00:13:19.919
so proud that see him every time that he played
235
00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:22.200
that he was one of the happiest guys. And then
236
00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:24.600
I was so excited just to be here knowing that,
237
00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:27.240
you know, he was free, even though he had lost
238
00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:29.919
his mom. And there's many stories out of one of
239
00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.519
your favorites, dan Is Lewis Taint like you say, Luis Tiante.
240
00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.919
Luis tian was another great player that came to this
241
00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:40.240
country from Cuba, and you know, he couldn't bring his
242
00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:42.759
dad there. He is, he couldn't bring his father, Loui
243
00:13:42.840 --> 00:13:46.879
tant Senior, who was a legend in Cuban baseball. But
244
00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:50.480
finally at the end of his career, he was able
245
00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:53.320
to bring his dad, and his dad literally threw out
246
00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.240
the first pitch and cried because he was able to
247
00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:58.240
see his son pitch and he was able to come
248
00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:01.120
to the United States for the first time. That's a
249
00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.240
lot why I'm so proud to be an American and
250
00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.879
why I'm so proud to be in the greatest country
251
00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:08.000
in the world, the United States.
252
00:14:08.360 --> 00:14:10.480
It was in the seventy five World Series. I think
253
00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.399
it was Game six, actually, if I if I'm not
254
00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:21.200
mistaken that that lewis here's this Camel Deportivo throughout the
255
00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.240
first pitch and had come to this country for the
256
00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.919
first time in nineteen seventy five, and yet he played.
257
00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.639
This is a nineteen forty five baseball card, so you know,
258
00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.559
thirty years later he gets to come. I really really
259
00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:36.360
appreciate you telling that story, Orlando, and telling your own
260
00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:40.879
personal you know, your own personal experiences, and you know,
261
00:14:41.320 --> 00:14:45.480
real life experiences are are important to understand because you know,
262
00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:47.600
you can say all this stuff, but when you talk
263
00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:51.480
about your situation and being a four year old, you know,
264
00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.200
on a boat from Honduras, it really hits hard. And
265
00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.120
you know, it's one of those things that you know.
266
00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.679
I obviously the hobby loves you. I you know, we
267
00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.399
appreciate you every day for what you do for the hobby,
268
00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.279
but you know it's important to understand that they are
269
00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:10.279
backstories to everybody in the hobby, and yours is particularly compelling.
270
00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.600
So I really appreciate you sharing that list today. Uncle
271
00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:15.960
rich you you got an all car for that.
272
00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:18.639
If you think I'm gonna top that.
273
00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:24.200
Come on, man, I grew up in New Jersey.
274
00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.519
But okay, so when I was at that, one of
275
00:15:27.559 --> 00:15:31.720
the big July fourth is Addis, which is a which
276
00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:36.639
is a suburb of down basically at Addison Basic Arrestaurant,
277
00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.039
and what I mean by that is basically just a
278
00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.879
lot of places. Addis is one of the richesties of
279
00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:44.399
the world because they got collected attacks and they didn't
280
00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.120
have anybody living there. You talk about about having money
281
00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:49.919
to put away, they had money. But the thing was
282
00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:53.000
for the Beckett Building three. We could see kaboom on
283
00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:57.120
firework from the park and it became a party and
284
00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.639
it was really cool because you know, you know, we
285
00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.120
would gather outs, be a lot of so I'm that's
286
00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:06.120
kind of sort of hobby related where we were actually
287
00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:08.799
using the buildings, and we had somebody there to make
288
00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.279
sure because obviously it's the restroom. We made sure there
289
00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:13.320
was a way for we're just there, get to the
290
00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:15.480
restrooms and get in and get out. You know, we
291
00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.720
didn't want any roaming the building. But it was really
292
00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:21.879
when I got matters. Is it the backyard of where
293
00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:25.159
I live. You can watch in the fireworks from the backyard,
294
00:16:25.279 --> 00:16:27.919
so I don't go anywhere anymore.
295
00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:28.919
You the own.
296
00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.080
Downs outside is so many people come after about three
297
00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.759
o'clock you realize because otherwise you're gonna sit in traffic
298
00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:38.200
for hour, so you kind of sort of get get
299
00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.600
your day done. So I mean that's a minor downside,
300
00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.919
but being able in the fire. And I know you've
301
00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:46.960
got some special for video, so I'm not gonna top Orland.
302
00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:50.600
I'm gonna I have one thing I want to show,
303
00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:53.039
which is one of the coolest things I own.
304
00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:55.200
I think you've got a couple of cool views to
305
00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:55.759
talk about a lot.
306
00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:57.759
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well we'll put up some baseball stuff,
307
00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:00.000
but first I want to show this. This doesn't mean
308
00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.039
anything to anybody, but it's one of the most important
309
00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:05.799
documents in my entire life. It's the ship manifest from
310
00:17:06.119 --> 00:17:11.160
the Lusitania on March tenth, nineteen twelve, and the fifteenth
311
00:17:11.160 --> 00:17:15.319
person listed here is my grandfather, James Jay Burns, who
312
00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:19.839
came over from Ireland on the Lusitania on Saint Patrick's
313
00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:21.799
Day is the day that they let him off of
314
00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:25.119
Ellis Island and he showed up to visit with his
315
00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.839
cousins and nobody was home. Because it was Saint Patrick's day,
316
00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.720
and he said he will, he would if he were
317
00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:38.200
alive today, would echo exactly what Orlando just said from
318
00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.440
a different standpoint of you know, different politics and different
319
00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:45.119
you know, life experiences. Back in Ireland, they were farmers,
320
00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.759
they had survived the famine. He was the younger, he
321
00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:51.160
was the oldest, and he came to this country and
322
00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.359
he said his entire life, lived to the age of eighty,
323
00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:58.359
that he absolutely loved this country and it was the
324
00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.519
best thing he ever did. And he went into World
325
00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:06.240
War One, became a sergeant, and received his citizenship on
326
00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.440
an army base in Greenville, South Carolina, and I believe
327
00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:15.160
nineteen eighteen, and lived his entire life as as a
328
00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:20.680
proud American. And my grandfather and you know, I love
329
00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.960
Ireland and I've been back five times now and I'm
330
00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:26.079
an Irish citizen. But you know, he said, best thing
331
00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.640
he ever did for himself. And his family used to
332
00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:34.079
send money back. And when we visited my great grandfather's
333
00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.720
gravestone and all the brothers and sisters, his name was
334
00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:39.240
at the bottom because he had paid for all of
335
00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:42.440
it from his earnings in America. So that's my July
336
00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.119
fourth story and not as good as Orlandos, but I
337
00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:46.039
like it.
338
00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:49.400
But we did one question. When you go to Ireland,
339
00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:49.960
have you ever.
340
00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:54.119
Collected I have looked for collectibles in Europe and it's
341
00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.640
hard to find. I think England is where you can
342
00:18:56.680 --> 00:18:58.839
find a lot of the tobacco stuff. But when I
343
00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.440
was in France, when I was in Italy, mostly everything
344
00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:05.480
you find is soccer and modern you know, TCG. Stuff.
345
00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:07.880
I did not look in Ireland, though, and that's a
346
00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.480
great question. I'm gonna I'll be back. I'm certainly going
347
00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:12.720
to go back again, and maybe I'll look for some stuff.
348
00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.759
So good. Thank thanks for putting that idea in my head,
349
00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.039
Uncle Rich. But July fourth in baseball, the first thing
350
00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:22.599
that comes to mind is July fourth, nineteen thirty nine,
351
00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:29.960
several weeks after lou Gerrig's you know als diagnosis Yankee State,
352
00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:33.160
he retired, and Yankee Stadium had lou Gary Day, which
353
00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.920
is of course known for his speech. But as Uncle
354
00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.319
Rich pointed out before we even got on to the
355
00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:44.039
to the video, we don't have the whole speech. We
356
00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:46.519
have the very end of it, and I wish we
357
00:19:46.599 --> 00:19:48.839
had video of the whole speech, which you know, if
358
00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:51.440
it were now we would have eight different videos of it.
359
00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:56.039
But Lou Grek, of course gave the Luckiest Man speech
360
00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.440
on July fourth, nineteen thirty nine, and it's one of
361
00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:04.480
the most famou this moment team baseball history. So any thoughts, gentlemen.
362
00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:08.000
Just really it was one of the greatest and really
363
00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.279
art breaking speeches ever given. And I wish we would
364
00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.720
have the thing because the end of it alone is
365
00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:16.319
just it's heartwarming and art breaking at the same time.
366
00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.279
So the other thing I have is this. Let me
367
00:20:20.319 --> 00:20:22.720
see if I can get this going. It's not it.
368
00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.000
I'm gonna share my screen here. Uh here it is
369
00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:29.759
and Dave Righetty.
370
00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.279
On the threshold me gig history right here at Yankee Stadium,
371
00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.319
Kay said, the ket and the pitch he stuck give out.
372
00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:45.480
Bregetty has pitt stud O ridder Baghetty has pets stand
373
00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:49.640
o hdder Hey strike out Budge for the final out
374
00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:53.079
of the ballgame at the Yank Games pour on the field.
375
00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.519
So yeah. July fourth, nineteen eighty three, Uh, Dave Righetty
376
00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:00.799
pitched a no hitter in the Yankee State against the
377
00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:02.960
Red Sox. Eat it Red Sox.
378
00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:07.839
And Bogs, being the last strikeout crazy because then he
379
00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:09.519
played for the Yankees after that.
380
00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.200
But yeah, and the other thing, by the way, that's
381
00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:17.359
the radio broadcast because famed longtime Yankee anounce for Mel
382
00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.319
Allen was doing EV broadcast, yes, or for the cable network.
383
00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:24.000
Yeah, it was. It was before I missed G existed.
384
00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:26.079
I think it might have been Sports Channel. It was
385
00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:28.359
called back then, and they hired Melott for a couple
386
00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:30.279
of years in the early eighties, even though he was,
387
00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.480
you know, deep into his seventies at that point. And yes,
388
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.240
mel Ott is the announcer, and I wish I had
389
00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.640
that audio. I thank you for pointing that, Uncle that out,
390
00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.519
Uncle Rich, But that was the video I found, So
391
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:44.160
it's fun.
392
00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.880
It's a great video to see. I was just pointing
393
00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:49.960
out when you're a Yankee fan for Mel.
394
00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.680
Allen, of course. Uh, here's one pointed out July fourth,
395
00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:58.279
nineteen sixty one Speedster Harmon killerbrew in Minnesota, Twins first
396
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.119
inside the park home run. There we go a couple
397
00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:05.759
of other July fourth things. I should add that when
398
00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:10.079
I read Phil Rosenswig's Great A Splendid Season book recently,
399
00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.599
he pointed out that in nineteen twelve there was a
400
00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:18.799
no hitter on July fourth, whitch by this gentleman, George Mullen.
401
00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:21.680
So I went and cheated, as Orlando calls it, and
402
00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.680
I researched, I came up. There have only been three
403
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:31.119
no hitters on July fourth, pitched all two of them
404
00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:34.440
early time, pre war times and Davirghetty, and the other
405
00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:37.880
one is New York Giants hooks Wilsee through a no
406
00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:41.599
hitter on July fourth. I believe nineteen oh eight, nineteen
407
00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:44.480
twelve for Mullen, and nineteen eighty three, and those are
408
00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.920
the only no hitters that have ever been thrown on
409
00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:47.680
July fourth.
410
00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:50.799
You no, George Mullen when you pictures in one season
411
00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:53.279
to win over twenty games and lose over twenty.
412
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.960
Yeah. He also was one of the pitchers in speaking
413
00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:03.400
of Cuba, when the Tigers won in I or down. Yeah,
414
00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:04.359
he went down.
415
00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.359
To play against the Cuban team. Yeah, when the Tigers
416
00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:11.000
came down. And that was the first nineteen oh nine
417
00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.160
where the first Cuban baseball cards ever produced, and it
418
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.240
had the Detroit Tigers team and a couple of the
419
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:19.000
teams from Cuba.
420
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.839
Yeah, I'd like to find that Mullen card someday, but
421
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:27.440
probably going to be expensive. Yeah, Don points out July fourth,
422
00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.920
nineteen thirty fourth satur Pation Judge Gibson were the only
423
00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:32.720
battery of Hall of famers in Major League Baseball part
424
00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:35.079
of a no hitter. So I am technically wrong. If
425
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:39.119
we're counting this particular event, then there would be another
426
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:42.799
no hitter on July fourth, and it would be Satchel Paige. Yes.
427
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:45.839
So the other one is, if you're a Mets fan,
428
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:51.440
you remember July fourth, nineteen eighty five, you remember this
429
00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:53.079
Uncle Rich in Atlanta time.
430
00:23:53.400 --> 00:23:57.319
That game lasted almost as long as the party last night.
431
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.119
Inside joke, but a good one. So Mets and Braves
432
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.759
played just a regular July fourth game. It's a ninth game,
433
00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:08.759
and at the end of the game, the Braves have
434
00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:15.359
scheduled fireworks. So unfortunately, the game goes nineteen inning and
435
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:18.519
is most famous for a home run in the sixteenth inning,
436
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:23.599
down two runs, a down, one run, two outs, two strikes.
437
00:24:23.759 --> 00:24:26.240
A pitcher who was perhaps one of the worst hitters
438
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:29.759
in the history of Major League Baseball, Rick Camp hits
439
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:33.440
a home run to extend the game. But actually I
440
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:35.400
think that was the eighteenth and then the nineteenth inning,
441
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:37.480
Camp comes out to pitch and gives up three runs
442
00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.799
and the end of the game was sixteen to thirteen
443
00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:45.559
was the final score the Mets won. Keith Hernandez, although
444
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.599
it was an ext trading game, hit for the cycle
445
00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.079
in the game and the game ended at four am
446
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.880
local time, and as promised, the Atlanta Braves set off
447
00:24:54.920 --> 00:25:02.319
the fireworks for angering every It's funny because I have
448
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.640
the police department got a whole bunch of after that.
449
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:08.400
What is going on? Are we under it?
450
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.559
Well, it's funny because I, uh, it was the summertime,
451
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.480
so I was working at a job and July fifth
452
00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:17.880
was not a holiday, so I had to go to bed.
453
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.200
On July fourth, I watched the Mets game until I
454
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:23.640
don't know eighth or ninth anying, went to bed and expected, oh, okay,
455
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.359
you know whatever, and read about it in the newspaper
456
00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:29.759
the next day that you know, maybe I didn't even
457
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.640
read about it in the newspaper. It may I heard about
458
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:34.319
it because the newspapers printed early and they wouldn't have
459
00:25:34.319 --> 00:25:36.839
been printing at four o'clock in the morning. But I
460
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.839
forget how I heard about it. But I was like what,
461
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:42.599
And then of course you get highlights and stuff. It
462
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.319
was not there was no internet in nineteen eighty five,
463
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:48.599
but it was. It trickled the information trickled down. But
464
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.359
I remember, I'm glad I didn't stay up because if
465
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.079
I had stayed up, I probably would have gotten up
466
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.720
two hours. That's the other July fourth thing. There's a
467
00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:59.960
few others, but uh, fun, fun discussion. We've taken up
468
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:04.680
half the show with July fourth and USA USA. Certainly,
469
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:09.039
good morning to Laura, how are you? And uh so
470
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.480
we've got a couple of hobby discussions. As you can
471
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:18.079
see from the rundown PSA National prices came out and
472
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:23.400
I have a little graphic for it.
473
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:25.200
Crazy.
474
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:28.960
Yeah, you know, I have thoughts. I should say I
475
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.359
will not be at the National this year. I made
476
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:35.240
decisions and I've talked about it multiple times, but I
477
00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:37.880
don't know. Oh, this is the other one. That's of course,
478
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.599
I forgot this one. Nolan Ryan three his three thousands
479
00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.559
strikeout was on July fourth, nineteen eighty Thank you Dom
480
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:50.079
for that information. I'd forgotten that one. So, yeah, good point.
481
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:53.720
The plastic's it's more expensive to get plastic than it
482
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:58.519
is to buy silver anyway, So I mean, I think
483
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:02.279
what they're doing is essentially saying, do not send us
484
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:06.519
your nineteen sixties common cards for your registry. If you're
485
00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.920
going to get something greater international and you want it
486
00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:11.720
to turn it around, it's got to be worth thousands
487
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.319
of dollars. And if you give us a card that's
488
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:16.519
worth thousands of dollars, we will grade it, but we
489
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:20.400
will charge you a ridiculous amount of money. Two hundred
490
00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:24.319
is the lowest, and you know you can go all
491
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.880
the way up to twelve, twelve thousand dollars to great
492
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.000
a card. I don't even have a card in my
493
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:40.160
collection worth twelve thousand dollars, you guys, I don't. Oh. Well,
494
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.000
you know, we've talked about the we talked a little
495
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.480
bit about the forms of governments there and their and
496
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.680
their you know, negative parts of certain forms of government.
497
00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:55.200
But you know, capitalism does have does have issues because
498
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.279
capitalism has to be tied to morality, and in this
499
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.640
particular circumstance, putting a piece of cardboard into a piece
500
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.880
of plastic shouldn't cost twelve thousand dollars. Welcome.
501
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.240
I want to get into because that's actually a topic
502
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.319
coming up, and it actually ties with our second topics
503
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:15.920
tonight yep and recently in New Jersey where I grew
504
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.880
up and not too far from where Dan, a father's
505
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.759
son was robbed of somewhere, but depending on newspaper report,
506
00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:26.279
one hundred or two hundred thousand dollars graded Pokemon cards
507
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.480
and twelve thousand dollars last year at the NFCC there
508
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:32.839
were several cars broken. I explained the last time I
509
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.400
was on why I think getting more badge and important.
510
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.480
But that's a different subject for a different day. But
511
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:42.319
he's asking about insurance when you're not getting shipped. PSA
512
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.200
has tons of PSA has tons of security, but if
513
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.480
somebody really wants to do something, don't get your card.
514
00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:52.160
And so that's legitimate that they have to have after
515
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.079
they have your cards. And it's a very difficult set
516
00:28:56.160 --> 00:28:58.279
because we don't you know, we want to be a
517
00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:01.279
friendly hobby and yet we've spun so far out of
518
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.359
We have to have lots of security in almost every
519
00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.839
show week. I know what the Dallas cards, show cameras everywhere,
520
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.559
there's tons of police. There's seven hundred tables and trust me,
521
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:16.000
there's a lot of both. Very it's very safe and
522
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.319
still happens that. We haven't had anybody walked out in
523
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.680
handcuffs for a while. There was a time where every
524
00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:22.599
single show we were having people being walked out.
525
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:24.559
Yeah, and you know, as far as they call the
526
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.160
assured value, really they just want to know the value
527
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.160
of your card, so that is to determine what they're
528
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.000
going to charge you for the card. You know, it's
529
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:34.279
more like the card value, a card ladder value. Now, yes,
530
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:37.519
if something happens and they damage it, you know, that's
531
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.200
the amount that they're going to pay you for it.
532
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.240
So you got to be careful that you don't undervalue it,
533
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.799
because there was a situation like that that I think
534
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.519
somebody said their card was valued twenty five thousand, but
535
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.799
it was actually valued fifty thousand, and then PSA ended
536
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.400
up even though the card was value fifty thousand, only
537
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:59.160
paying what they said the value was. So it's kind
538
00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.680
of tied into the value of the card, not truly
539
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.640
the insurance, you know, because yes, you're gonna get the
540
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.599
card right there, either the same day or at the
541
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.799
end of the show. They're not gonna ship it.
542
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.839
And by the way, it was twenty five or twenty
543
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.680
five thousand dollars the purse in the cards were, but
544
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:17.599
when he submitted them at a p event, he the
545
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.440
twelve thousand, five hundred, which brings up a different case
546
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:25.440
about should you actually declare your full value because PSA
547
00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:28.240
will up charge you, which is a different subject for
548
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.400
a different day than I don't make it into. In
549
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.319
that case, PSA had a very legitimate case. He said
550
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.640
the cards we worth twelve five. They offered him twelve five.
551
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.240
I mean, I mean, to crime out loud.
552
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:44.319
I mean, yeah again, So if they're handling a card,
553
00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.079
I'm trying to look at the maximum value of the
554
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:51.839
maximum issured value two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for
555
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.759
the for the twelve thousand dollars cards. So I mean,
556
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.680
they're supposed to, you know, they're supposed to be professionals.
557
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:02.960
They're supposed to be people who can handle this kind
558
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.039
of stuff. And I'll tell you they've got security. PSA
559
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.920
has security, no question about it, their own personal security
560
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.519
on site. And if they don't, then they don't, then
561
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.480
then you know they're committing negligence. But I don't know,
562
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.000
I just don't see this as as something that I mean,
563
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.319
I don't know, maybe they're insuring against their own incompetence
564
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:25.640
in a way, if they're able to, if they can't
565
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.440
handle a card, they shouldn't be doing what they what
566
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.440
they're doing. And as was said, I think with Zach said,
567
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.440
they're not shipping it, so what are they ensuring against?
568
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:41.319
And so twelve thousand dollars is just completely just completely absurd, crazy,
569
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.000
because I mean two hundred dollars is absurd for a
570
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:46.240
fifteen card.
571
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:50.119
They're literally going to take around the same time to grade,
572
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.400
you know, a five hundred dollars card then one hundred
573
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:55.640
thousand dollars card, you know, and they're going to slab
574
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.000
it the same way, same plastic slab, the same flip.
575
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:03.480
There's no difference. But because of the so called value
576
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.279
of the card, you know, they get to give you
577
00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:08.319
that massive tax I guess I don't.
578
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:09.960
Think that's into true. If you have a Wagner, in
579
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.359
a lot more time grading a Wagner a typical pokemart.
580
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.480
So you're you're basically right, but there but there are
581
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.160
delineations in that you will spend more time looking at
582
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:22.720
certain cards because you know that there's a lot more money.
583
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:23.599
Plus p s.
584
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.279
A will make sure the wagners. They're really big cards.
585
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.680
They have their seniors there. Guess who's going to be
586
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.079
greating those cards. It's not you or me. It's gonna
587
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.640
those senior graders who get paid good money and have
588
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:35.519
a lot of your concerns.
589
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:41.359
But they're not going to spend any more than five
590
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:42.400
minut card there.
591
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:45.680
No, that's true. Spend thirty seconds so you can get
592
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.160
a TCG.
593
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:49.720
Yeah, yeah, they may spend you know, a few minutes.
594
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.200
So you know. This comment brings up something I watched.
595
00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.240
Chris swe Will put out a new video this morning,
596
00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:59.640
and one of his discussions is the fact that somebody
597
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.519
had a Wade Bogs rookie not even a rookie card.
598
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:06.039
Wade Box autograph card graded by PSA was like eighty bucks.
599
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.480
Graded by JSA CGC was like forty bucks. And part
600
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.960
of the problem. And ostensibly the CGC card just looks better,
601
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.880
presents better. JSA, as far as I'm concerned, are better
602
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.480
autograph analysis analysis than the PSA people. And yet we're
603
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:27.160
paying twice as much for that card. And the reality
604
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.559
is that people don't and that's why PSA can continue
605
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.200
to charge the prices they charge, because we, as the
606
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.240
hobby have not taken it. You know, we give more
607
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:41.079
money for PSA cards, which I don't simply that it's
608
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:43.720
not in my you know, it's not in my hobby
609
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.519
that I'm giving more money to PSA. It's just the
610
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.319
way it is. And so maybe it's the problem is
611
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.920
it's it's partially our fault. This, this disgraceful group of
612
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.680
prices is our fault. I mean we we have empowered
613
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:01.400
we the hobby have empowered PSA to screw us from
614
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:05.039
behind like they're doing at the at the National Frankly,
615
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.199
I don't want any part of it. And you know,
616
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.719
as one million cups says, go to a different company,
617
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.599
I do not have a graph like that for the
618
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.119
CGC prices. Uncle Rich, you mentioned that you had seen them.
619
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:18.920
What did you think of their GC?
620
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.320
And Beckett and SGC is going to be at least
621
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:26.079
taking some missions. And I saw that we are fully
622
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:29.239
vested in all the grading companies, being at all the
623
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.599
key grading companies. And when I say this is no
624
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.960
slight to the tags, the arena clubs, the people one
625
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.880
level below those four, I'm sure they will be there too.
626
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:39.719
So we will have a lot of you will have
627
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.960
a lot of and I don't want to sound like
628
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.519
a PSA apologic, but Chris Carlin, one of our fellow panelists,
629
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.320
has explained on the shows why all this insurance goes on.
630
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:51.760
You know Chris, you know, I know he works there,
631
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.360
but he's very well spoken on it and explains what.
632
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:59.239
And even Bo explained in his post of why yeah,
633
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.920
damn right, we're insuring their car. It was a post
634
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.440
from one million coups Thompson three or four comments and
635
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:10.440
he's right, absolutely, they're handling cards. You're paying two hundred
636
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:13.159
dollars for car, be worth ofly gone right, You're gonna happen.
637
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.960
That's my alternative grading these days. A beautiful one touch
638
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:17.679
from Penny.
639
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.840
Sleever dropping off some cars at s G. You know,
640
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.559
I still like their their the tucks. I still believe
641
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:26.000
in them, and the prices are reasonable and I know
642
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.639
I'm going to get it back, you know, in reasonable
643
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:32.079
time compared to the p s A bulk rates or
644
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.360
whatever they have, because you know, it's just not worth
645
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.000
it to me. I don't have that high end of
646
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.400
cards to submit to p s A right then and there,
647
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:46.559
but to send to have SGC take them home to
648
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.159
Boca and grade them, mail them to me. I'm good
649
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:49.519
with that.
650
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:56.320
I'm coming up on three months. Yeah yeah, my latest
651
00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:59.360
SGC is coming up on three months. And uh, it's
652
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.719
not even in grading at this point, so you know,
653
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.559
I mean it used to be a month. Now it's
654
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.239
three to four months. And that's not like you said,
655
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.800
it's compared to PSA. It's not. It's bad, but it
656
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:10.440
should be better. Let's put it honestly.
657
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.280
Just like Orlando, if I was gonna have any I
658
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.079
really wanted to have graded at the beck of there's
659
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.519
literally five minutes you know, you know I can drive there.
660
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:18.639
I mean I went there once during rush hour. It
661
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:20.559
was five minutes. Or I didn't go there, but I went.
662
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.400
I did the timings. Five they're during rush that's close
663
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.280
enough where Yeah, if I'm going to do something, I'll
664
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:27.440
make the appointment.
665
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.920
And drop off wait rush hour rush.
666
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:33.679
Like eight thirty. I actually test. I actually tested to day.
667
00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:35.559
I was going somewhere else and I figured, let me
668
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.559
test this to see how long it actually so I
669
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.039
can talk about this someday video.
670
00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:44.039
Well, PSA is New Jersey City. Location is one stop
671
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.639
on the path train from from my from my my job.
672
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:50.239
So I've gone over there a couple of times. Say
673
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.920
it again, don't they have graders card grade? I'm not sure.
674
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.400
I just submitted actually, I think one of them. They
675
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.320
said they had to send it to California because the
676
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.280
nature of the car hard. But I'm not I'm not
677
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:04.000
gonna be doing that anymore. Well, actually it was this.
678
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:11.960
It was not card. It was a ticket.
679
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.039
Has a ticket office not too far from where I am.
680
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.639
So, uh, okay, well will you you did bring this up? Rich?
681
00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.480
It's the what happened in uh in Jersey, South Jersey.
682
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:27.119
So what's interesting about this is, you know, you have well,
683
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.079
I'm a criminal defense lawyer, so I'm pretty well versed
684
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:33.639
in what crimes are and uh and and and to
685
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.920
to look at the you know, the circumstances and determine
686
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:40.480
what what what's the underlying thing here? And in reality
687
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.960
it says armed thieves. This was not some sort of
688
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.719
crime of passion or some crime of opportunity. It was
689
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:49.960
a bunch of guys coming up or a couple of
690
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.519
guys coming up with guns, knowing who their target was,
691
00:37:53.800 --> 00:37:57.599
and then driving away in a BMW. The robbers had
692
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.639
a BMW, so they they you know, there was there
693
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.840
was some there was some knowledge here or inside knowledge
694
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.920
here one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of Pokemon
695
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.760
cards and twelve thousand dollars in cash, and there was
696
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.239
some pistol whipping going on, and it was a pretty
697
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.039
brutal thing. But the thing about it and Richie talked
698
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.000
about security at shows, and we could talk about that too,
699
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:21.199
but this didn't happen at the show. It happened in
700
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:25.119
a parking lot some distance from the show after load out.
701
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.679
And how do you how do you guard against something
702
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.719
like that? You know, how how do you prevent people
703
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:35.159
from understanding what where? You know where the money's going
704
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.719
when it's going off site and those guys with their
705
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.440
guns in their pockets aren't anywhere in sight? How do
706
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:41.280
you protect against that?
707
00:38:41.519 --> 00:38:43.960
It's it's hard. I'm not just talk about the Dallas card. Yeah,
708
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:48.760
you know, it's the Water's conventions. Unfortunately that it's A seven.
709
00:38:48.920 --> 00:38:51.840
It's literally six or seven floors of the garage. But
710
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.280
I almost think you have to close that. People want
711
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:57.440
when I say one, to pat that area as well
712
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.239
or lease off in addition just to me, I'm know
713
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:03.119
I went the last show about between in the after
714
00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.519
because to show how secrety conscious com see where I
715
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.679
worked with, and they asked me to come. The person
716
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.599
who does the booth asked me to come to just
717
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:14.599
make sure there were bodies there to close the show
718
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.039
down was part of just parts of shows or loaded
719
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.400
and this was a loadown and one person went and
720
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.159
brought the cards going to be shipped. It was an
721
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.519
easy access to get FedEx office. Is literally very little
722
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.360
is going to happen to him, do the cards into
723
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.320
the car, they go across the street, he drops them off.
724
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.000
It's all good. But we have feuters, we have other
725
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:36.039
and because it's twelve minutes from my house, they asked
726
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.320
me if some of the some things in Texas, but
727
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:40.760
they want to sure that nothing happened and you have
728
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:42.400
to be careful and this is part of what I
729
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.280
talked about badges. But I got there at three in
730
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.559
the after on Sunday and anybody could have walked in.
731
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:50.440
And that's one of the most to have almost extra
732
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.920
security and loaded and load out. They're doing the show.
733
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:55.679
It sounds it's actually it's really weird. In fact, the
734
00:39:55.760 --> 00:39:57.920
one point the Dallas card show, which you start setting
735
00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.880
up until and I'm sure they still do the toll.
736
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.239
We will not let you. We will not let anybody
737
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.440
set up. In fact, when I was doing the show once,
738
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.480
I had to tell Cup and out of leave because
739
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.679
if you don't leave, we can't set up. And then
740
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.079
asked me because I knew them, and I explained, none
741
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.400
of us can set up, like Okay, I got you.
742
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.039
You know, Philly, Philly. Joe Man has a good comment there.
743
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:20.079
And you have to remember it's not just they're getting
744
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.239
robbed at some of these guys. There was one I
745
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.320
remember was followed from the show. They followed their car
746
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.000
to a restaurant, and then when they got down to
747
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:30.760
eat at the restaurant, they broke into their car and
748
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.440
stole their stuff from their car. You know, even today,
749
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.239
I still see too many dealers that are at the
750
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:41.039
shows by themselves, and you need to have people. If
751
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.360
you're a dealer at the show, you can't just be
752
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.119
there by yourself. And at some of these small shows,
753
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.639
I see it guy at the table.
754
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.800
Yeah, I mean I do my own. I don't. I
755
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.440
don't have thousands and thousand dollars worth of cards, but
756
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.079
I do have enough money on me and enough cards
757
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:00.760
to be a victim. But the local shows that I
758
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.360
work at. One of the local shows, shout out to
759
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:06.440
Maddie Stephen on on State Island. He's a former police officer.
760
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.679
He has two security at every show. They are either
761
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:13.239
active off duty police or retired police officers, which means
762
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.000
we know what they've got in their pocket, and they
763
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:21.519
actually affirmatively guard the load in and the way that
764
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.599
these shows are set up. You can park right near
765
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.599
the door and there's a guy, there's a security guy
766
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.519
at the door watching you load in or load out.
767
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.079
And to me, that's the safest show that I work
768
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:37.079
in terms of the local shows. But again, what and
769
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.239
you know the Philly Joe's point is, and this has happened,
770
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:43.719
as Orlando said, what what about tracking me? You know,
771
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:46.239
you know I've just loaded in thousands of dollars worth
772
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.000
of cards and I've got, you know, a wad in
773
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.599
my wallet or in my pocket. What's to stop them
774
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.400
from following me and doing it off site, which is
775
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.280
exactly what these guys did in Jersey. I mean, it's
776
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.000
not worth the time to up somebody like me, But
777
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.760
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of Pokemon and
778
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.039
twelve thousand dollars in their pocket. I mean, that's that's
779
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.719
that's a victim waiting to happen. And the problem is,
780
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:13.000
of course, you security can only go so far. And
781
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:19.159
I'm just concerned that we're making ourselves in the hobby
782
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:24.320
sitting ducks by not exercising maybe a little more security.
783
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.679
And I think it's it might have been. Yeah, Zach said,
784
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:31.920
if you had that much money, you would have your
785
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:34.840
own security. Why not. Howie Chasterer did it at the
786
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.440
National in twenty twenty four, had his own private security
787
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.280
guard because of the nature of the inventory that he
788
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.960
had on the table. And you know, is it an expense?
789
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.840
Certainly it's an expense. Is it worth it?
790
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.800
Maybe it is, you know, yeah, And then you know,
791
00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:51.960
let's let's talk about collectors. People are going to go
792
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:55.280
to the National with thousands of dollars, thousands of dollars,
793
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:57.880
thousands of dollars with a card. You gotta be careful.
794
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.920
You can't be by yourself, you know, I would Atlantic City.
795
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:03.480
I had to walk to the hotel, to the convention
796
00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:06.079
center and back to the hotel. Hey, it was not
797
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.119
a pretty sight. Let me tell you. I was worried.
798
00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:10.559
So I always made sure I had somebody with me
799
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:12.719
that could walk with me. And you know, you gotta
800
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:15.360
be careful at the national be flashing your cash out,
801
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.039
you know, if you're gonna do a big deal. Sometimes
802
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.519
you know, as the dealer, can I go behind the booth?
803
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.000
You know, don't be videotaping or a lot of of
804
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:26.440
you do it videotape the deal putting out all this
805
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.960
cash on the table. There are people watching you there.
806
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:32.400
Do they know what you have? So just be careful,
807
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.519
not just the dealers, but the collector.
808
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.400
One who did that robbery. If they're driving around a
809
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.320
bf BMW, they have enough when you.
810
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:44.400
When you I have to. I'm not admitted in Jersey,
811
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.159
but I have done cases in Jersey by you know,
812
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.639
having my co counsel be a Jersey admitted lawyer. So
813
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.239
I have done cases in Jersey. So give me a call.
814
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.679
Guys, we got we got an experienced defense attorney. Here
815
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.960
a second. You know Alan Rosen, the buys he had made.
816
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.440
Alan Rosen never went alone to anybody unless he really
817
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.280
knew the perp. And what I mean by that is
818
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.599
there was one there was one case he went with me.
819
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:11.480
I go he doesn't happen and we did a couple
820
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.840
of things like that, but you know, unless it was
821
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.480
vetted by somebody, he stood on this. He never went alone.
822
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.239
And that was on three we were talking about and
823
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.800
I have a slightly dinnergogue because after set, after October's,
824
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:26.599
things became very but even before October set we started
825
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.039
having because of the shooting at the Allan output not
826
00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.920
having disemters, but less than ten minutes show there was
827
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.599
that Alan outlet. Look got and thank goodness there was
828
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.280
a police officer there on an unrelated who happened to
829
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:41.079
stop because otherwise it could have been much more. And
830
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:42.800
we have a security.
831
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:44.800
Or we have a police officer there and you know
832
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.920
basically the show when they run from four, well he's
833
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:51.039
basically there from nine thirty to four and most most vendors,
834
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:52.679
almost every vendor is out at four o'clock.
835
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.079
We get everybody out on and I tell people in
836
00:44:55.079 --> 00:44:57.400
a Senate we're actually for the overnight. We're the building,
837
00:44:57.400 --> 00:44:59.440
you know, of if anything happens, the police will be
838
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:02.320
there quicker than I can I slip the phone call,
839
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:06.480
you know, so but you know, winder step and that's
840
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.320
and that's you know and understands you know, when I
841
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:11.920
set up at a show, I always figure if somebody
842
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.320
stole something from me, I always figure of more than yeah.
843
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.719
Well, especially since you have the cheaper stuff out whereas
844
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.360
your your cases have the more expensive stuff. That's what
845
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.679
That's what I do. Yes, And if.
846
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:26.519
Somebody steals from my cheap and I would put when
847
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:28.199
I had my before I sold out one of my
848
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.039
multiple times, I would put my approup of stuff, let's say,
849
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:33.559
on the corners where somebody took something from them. Okay,
850
00:45:33.760 --> 00:45:35.159
the card is going to be five.
851
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:37.639
Yeah, exactly, it is what it is. Well, the other
852
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:41.320
thing that I've seen, even at local shows, not necessarily
853
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.159
like sports card guys, but the Pokemon card guys have cameras,
854
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:48.480
their own personal cameras on their tables. And I saw
855
00:45:48.519 --> 00:45:51.480
a guy the other day with a sign that said
856
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.519
you are being recorded and you know whether it's true
857
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.559
or not, and how much that means. I think it
858
00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.760
has some effect. So you know, you see occasionally you
859
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.800
see these videos on YouTube of you know, guy's little
860
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:07.079
little you know, ring camera right on his table finding
861
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.519
showing somebody's stealing. And it happens. It happens, not doesn't
862
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.280
have to be one hundred thousand dollars. It can be
863
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:16.199
twenty thirty, fifty, couple hundred dollars and suddenly your show
864
00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.639
that was you were doing pretty well at you're doing
865
00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:23.880
less well. So it is a problem in small, small aspects.
866
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.320
Too, Dan quick, five minutes before we shut down on FIFA.
867
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:33.880
Yes, United States. Well, not to say one thing, let
868
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:36.280
me just I will give you the floor, But I
869
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:39.400
want to say one thing, FIFA. Why is the United
870
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.119
States not playing on July fourth? Please? What the heck?
871
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:43.679
Go ahead?
872
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.239
Yeah we got Canada playing on July fourth? What is that?
873
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.960
But yes, you're right, Dan, You know, I gotta tell
874
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.199
you I was not a soccer I thought I was
875
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:56.239
the most boring sport. You know, nil nil, one one, nothing, nothing,
876
00:46:56.280 --> 00:46:58.360
you know, those type of games. To me, we're boring.
877
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.440
But I gotta tell you this has been the most
878
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.559
exciting FIFA tournament I've ever seen. You know, yesterday's game
879
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:09.079
with Argentina and Copple Verde was an incredible game. Going
880
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.920
into double overtime with you know, the previous champion Argentina
881
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.760
going against probably one teams that shouldn't even been their
882
00:47:16.920 --> 00:47:20.280
smallest country couple Verde, and they went head ahead with
883
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.840
them and tied the game in overtime and ended up
884
00:47:23.000 --> 00:47:27.039
being an incredible game. And USA is playing awesome. I mean,
885
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.719
I've become a fan. I got to tell you, it's
886
00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.960
really changed my way the way that I look at
887
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.679
soccer now or football, you know, and watching them play
888
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:39.039
here in Miami. I haven't been to the game, but
889
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:41.960
I got to tell you the amount of enthusiasm that
890
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.679
are here, the teams, the countries that have come here.
891
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:49.719
I mean Scotland came here after they went to Boston.
892
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.800
They drank all the beer over heroes, I mean, the
893
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:56.280
Norway to the row you know of course USA and
894
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.719
Argentina with Messi who plays here in Miami playing the
895
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.920
game here last night. I mean, the crowds were just
896
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.280
incredible and it's just great to see people from other
897
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.559
countries tying it back to July fourth being happy of
898
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.679
America saying how great Erica is. It's great to hear
899
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.719
people from all over the world, how great America. And
900
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:18.800
that's just you know, it's just been an incredible tournament
901
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:22.039
and anybody who hasn't been watching, you better start watching.
902
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.199
The games are getting better and better every round, and
903
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.039
now we're in the round of sixteen.
904
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:30.400
Yeah, USA in the around of sixteen is fun. I
905
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.480
feel like go ahead, rich, sorry.
906
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:36.800
Switoking back hobby right. I've talked about how our local store,
907
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.119
which is this was a Shane thirty sums drive had
908
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.760
a trade afternoon on Monday for World Cup stickers, all
909
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.239
of us and they did some this but not as
910
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.760
and they dread just as many they expected, all of
911
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.719
who were just trading their stickers. It was so much.
912
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.800
I didn't I expect them, glad I did my wife.
913
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:57.920
But on the way home, I stopped at my local
914
00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:00.000
card store, which is part of their got the album
915
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.880
which they were giving away, and but a few sticks.
916
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.480
She is addicted, and I explained to her, this is, honey,
917
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:07.519
this is not for money. You're not putting money us.
918
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.519
This is you know when she heard the boxes hundred
919
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:11.480
dollars for the stick because yeah, I'm not buying the boxes.
920
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.440
We'll just we'll just buy some packs here, you know,
921
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.360
as long as you but she is joining the whole
922
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.880
concept the stick and you know, for everybody there. When
923
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.159
I was there, it was really hot. It was hotter
924
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:26.440
than New York City. But it was so encouraging to
925
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.679
see people just for value and there may have been
926
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.920
a couple looking. For the most part, they were the
927
00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.760
stickers to finish their out. There's like, oh, there was
928
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.320
like culture and I remember pre pandemic many years ago
929
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:40.960
my local car store really was and not part of
930
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.480
a co colabration. Every four years the day the world
931
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.039
cup stick and the sticker, there'd be fifty people who
932
00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:49.280
would come into the store, buy the box and just
933
00:49:49.320 --> 00:49:51.639
start trading them if and they wouldn't come back to
934
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:54.039
the store for another four year. Literally you know, they
935
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.480
would come everything. And so it's always encouraging to see
936
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:01.239
with these items what you want them, which just have fun,
937
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.440
you know to them. Lionel l Messi is the same
938
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:09.440
as whichever you know, Weston McKenzie of the US if
939
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:11.000
they needed for the Senate it can be a one
940
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.159
for It's okay, that's when it was six years ago.
941
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:15.039
Back to trading cards.
942
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.039
Back to trading cards. Yes, is trading stick It's fun
943
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.719
to see equal getting go. I'm going to ridge whenever
944
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.400
I see something. Money is important of this hobby, don't
945
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.360
get but it's always fun to actually collect and collecting.
946
00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:29.880
I you know, when I set up at shows, I said,
947
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.199
I don't do a lot of that, but I always figure,
948
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.760
with a couple of exceptions, everybody's coming to from the
949
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.719
question is how much do you let them? And I
950
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:37.679
mean it's kind of sad.
951
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:41.920
Yeah, yeah, well gentlemen. Uh, it has been as I
952
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.360
had anticipated when I saw the list of people who
953
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.639
would be on this show. A great pleasure as always,
954
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.400
Uncle Rich, wonderful to see you again, and nice chatting
955
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:56.760
with you, Orlando of course the greatest and uh and
956
00:50:56.760 --> 00:50:59.280
and having you on July fourth. I knew it was
957
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:00.800
going to be good. I know it's going to be
958
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:05.440
this good, so really really so pleased. The chat was
959
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:10.840
engaged and into it and having fun. And you know,
960
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:14.360
dom Dom said, what do he say? Hope to see
961
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:18.159
this trio on again here soon? So do I So, folks,
962
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:23.719
Happy Happy Birthday America two fifty United States. Go go go.
963
00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.760
When when's the Sunday? I think Sunday tomorrow? I think
964
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.440
is the is the soccer game? We're gonna have to
965
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.239
deal with the fact that ball a gone picked up
966
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.199
a red card and isn't going to be able to play.
967
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.199
The guy who scored a goal also got a red card,
968
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.480
So now we lose a goal scorer. But we'll see
969
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.280
what happens if USA wins on Sunday. I think it
970
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.599
is h It's Monday, Monday, Monday, It's Monday. Okay, yeah,
971
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.519
they move on to the Round of eight, which would
972
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:54.519
be pretty awesome, but we'll see anyway, Folks, this has
973
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.360
been Hobby Hotline and thanks for coming in.
974
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:06.920
Thank you for listening to this episode of Hobby Hotline.
975
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:10.079
Just want to remind everyone we are a live show
976
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.519
every Saturday morning, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific on
977
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:20.440
the four Collectors channel on YouTube. That's the number four,
978
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:25.039
the word Collector's channel on YouTube. We hope to see
979
00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:28.079
many of you live on a future Saturday. We have
980
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:32.039
a great interactive chat room and we always provide a
981
00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:34.079
link for anyone that wants to come on the show
982
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.239
and chop it up with us. So that's a reminder.
983
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:42.760
Every Saturday, eleven am eastern eight am Pacific, only four
984
00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:47.039
Collectors channel on YouTube. Hope to see you on the show.