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Sydney based indie folk rock group Boy
and Bear have announced the release of their
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upcoming EP, Lost Dreams, as
well was revealing a twenty five date tour
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of Australia and joining me now to
have a chat about all news. Boy
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and Bear is drummer Tim Hart.
Welcome to Garage Rock. Appreciate your time,
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man, Yeah, no worries now. There seems to be a fair
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bit going on with the band at
the moment. As I mentioned, you've
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got the new EP coming out as
well as an upcoming tour, but the
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band also had its fifth studio album
released earlier this year, and you're also
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celebrating the ten year anniversary of your
second album, Harlequin Dream. How are
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you guys feeling at the moment with
all of these events? It does sound
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like a lot now that you say
that. Yeah, it's been really interesting.
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Our management, we're like, well, there's going to be a bit
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bit going on this year, and
I think sometimes our head our heads kind
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of lived perpetually in the clouds,
so we're like, oh, yeah,
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we finished the record and back and
then it's ten years from a Harquan Dream
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and we're like, oh wow,
that's you know that makes you feel old
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and then yeah, like we've found
those songs and yeah, it's I don't
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know, there's a lot going on, but at the same time, really
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doesn't feel like that to us because
you just sort of you lock up and
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just keep working. Yeah. I
think that's the one the one consistent we've
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had disappan is that boys felt we're
so privileged to be able to do what
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we love for a living, so
just keep working hard at it, and
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it's just you sort of move from
one thing to the next, and it
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just happens that this year there's a
lot of moving from one thing to the
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next, which is cool an interesting. Yeah, no, it's good.
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I mean, like I said,
it is the ten year anniversary of Harlequin
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Dream. You've got the vinyl set
for release this Friday. Yeah. Yeah.
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What was it like revisiting Harlequin Dream
after ten years? It was it
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was really nostalgic, to be honest, even the EP that we're putting out,
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like, it was very very nostalgic
to hear the songs and it took
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us back to the like a really
fun time. It was. It was
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really cool, Like we worked with
Wayne finally and we worked at a studio
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that doesn't existing are called ours and
it was mixed with a guy that he
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mixed the fleet boxes and machines and
a bunch of stuff. So it was
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a really exciting time for us because
we was still very young man and to
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hear the stuff now and obviously like
Southern Side and I've done a lot for
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our career, Yeah, and we're, you know, obviously very grateful for
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that. So to revisit this stuff, it was really fascinating and and yeah,
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very nostalgic. Have you found that
any of those songs over the last
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ten years have grown on you more
than they initially did or some of the
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meanings have changed for you over that
time. I was convinced I was going
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to get completely sick with selling sound
like, just convinced because we had we've
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had to play it so much,
you know, but I never have.
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There's there's there's some songs that I
think we've realized a more important maybe in
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some ways than others, like back
Down the Black. We've got a lot
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of messages from people who that's helped
out in a from a mental health perspective.
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And I think old old town blues
and there's a song that's just kept
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going algies massive plane. I'm getting
a visual for it as well. It's
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I can't I can say that.
Honestly. I've done a couple of hundred
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interviews. I've never had anyone point
out a plane flying overhead. So it's
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not eighty. I reckon he's I
reckon he's off to London. I reckon
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that that could be QF one.
I'll do a bit of research later and
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find out and let you know,
over see what happens. Yeah, I
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was just gonna say, Yeah,
there are songs like It's particularly like back
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Down the Black Deft, that have
ended up being like feeling more important,
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not not not for any other reason
that like a lot of people who have
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been in touch about them and continue
to get in touch about them. Yeah,
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I mean I really haven't got sick
of any of them. I guess
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what happens is when you when you
get sick of the songs, you just
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don't play it like that. But
yeah, that's fair enough. Well,
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I mean the latest single, Abraham, was released a couple of weeks ago,
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and it's the first track from the
Lost Dream z EP, and it
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was originally written during the Harlequin Dream
sessions. Yeah, Yeah, can you
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tell me a bit about how the
song came about? Yeah, So we
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had these this I guess it was
more like a conceptual idea of moving between
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like a I guess tempos from section
to section, because I guess we were
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really interested in that back then,
and it was this sort of fair fair
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to say ehicle sort of a story
of like a of this sort of escape
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and it's a it's a real sort
of song with escapism, and so we
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tried to like it works really hard
on trying to like join these mood changes
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together, which is really difficult in
the studio at times, and at times
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sort of it happens seem like like
I guess, like a later iteration of
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that for us is that the song
suck on Light. But this was just
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a really interesting one to try and
get that sort of that rollicking start to
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the song to Joel with the group
that happens I guess through the verses and
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choruses. Yeah, and you can
obviously hear that we're still we're very I
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guess we're starting to get really interested
in the seventies sort of harmonies and corals
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sound at that point. Ye.
So yeah, it came together like,
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like, I thought that was going
to be one of the singles from from
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the from the album, and in
the end, just because of the balance
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of the album, we had to
cut it, which which actually, in
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retrospect seems like a kind of a
shame listening back to it now. But
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people are seemed to be loving it, which is which is really nice.
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That's cool. I was actually gonna
ask that next, Like, it's been
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out for a couple of weeks,
now, what's the reaction been from fans
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to Abraham. You know, it's
been an amazing response. I guess one
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of the great added in life but
also in music is that no one thinks
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about you as much as you think
they do. And so I feel like,
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if I was completely narcissistic, I'd
be like, well, everyone should
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know that this is from How I
Can Dream. Yeah, everyone should know
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that it's a tenure anniversal. But
the reality is that people don't, and
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they just think it's a new song
and they're like, it's really cool,
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and these are the reasons I love
it. And some people obviously that are
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fans, previous fans, they get
it and they understand what it is and
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where it's come from but They're overwhelming
response has just been this is a really
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cool song with a great story,
and it's and it feels good and that
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makes me. That makes me happy. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean
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personally, I think my favorite track
from the upcoming EP is I of the
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Canyon. I could really like the
upbeat rhythm to the song, and the
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hook got caught in my head as
well, which is cool. Can you
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tell me a bit more about how
that came along and how close that was
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to make it to the album?
That song? I can't. I can't
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even remember the bording with that song
from honest, I remember it being quite
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gotten Jubilee Life from like off our
first record, But I remember there was
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there was two songs that were kind
of along that vein Ilican Dream and the
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other one was End of the Line, and I think it ended up being
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between the two of them. On
what would make the record, I voted
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for By the Canyon and got out. I definitely got out voted because it
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didn't end the record. As I
mentioned earlier, the band is getting ready
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to head out on an extensive tour
which includes quite a lot of regional areas.
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Yeah, how much you guys looking
forward to these shows. We love
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to during regionally. It's something we've
always done ever since we started, and
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I, you know, you always
have talked to a lot of artists.
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I think it's like one of the
most overarching points that I think all of
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my friends that the things we're just
so grateful getting. Yeah, we've done
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a future now like that that's not
really normal, but everyone we do.
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I don't think I'll ever lose the
appreciate addition of the fact that you can
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just put on a tour and people
feel confident enough to to buy a ticket
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and come along to it. So
yeah, we're super excited about it.
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And there's some places that I haven't
been before, so nice. That's exciting
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too. Yeah, that's awesome.
Well, actually, both myself and my
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co host Cam have found that crowds
feel a bit different after the COVID break.
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It feels like they really do appreciate
going to live shows again. Have
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you noticed much of a change in
the audience since coming back from COVID.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that,
And I also think there's been a slight
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ship to and and this is I
would say this is like probably a slight
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giffment between Europe and Australia. But
I reckon there's like slightly less phones okay,
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and there's still are a shipload of
phones. But before it just seemed
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like everyone was just continually documenting,
and me be on this tour, I'll
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be like, oh, they fucking
still are. And I don't have a
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problem. People can they pay them
money. They come and see a show,
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You do what you want. But
I find it a real shame because
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when you go see a live show, you just want to look at it
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and hear it and and sort of
I guess, let it watch over you.
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I mean that's what I want to
do because I guess someone new five
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music then. Yeah. But I
think there's definitely like it feels like there's
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a greater appreciation. I think people
are really keen to hang around afterwards and
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just tell you that it means something
to them. That's good. I think
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when you when you take something away
from people for a time and then it's
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back, it's exciting. And I
hope that there's still that stamp on this
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tour. You never know. With
some of those regional ones, they can
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get ready. Yes, yeah,
that is true. Now after the national
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tour wraps up, in November.
Do you guys have any plans for what's
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next or after a big year,
are you're going to just sort of take
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some time off for a bit.
Yeah, we're moving straight on too.
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But we get Christmas off and then
we go straight into a European tour cool,
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and then when we come back from
that, well I'm not even sure
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if I'm allowed to say this,
but but we've got an acoustic album that
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we've almost finished. It's just other
versions of the Boy and Bear like soul
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titled record Cool, and then I
think we've got the States, Canada after
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that, and I don't know after
that. So that's I think that's where
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we're up to. But I mean
I will definitely be recording a new album
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next year as well, So it's
gonna stay busy. It's gonna stay busy.
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But it's all really exciting stuff.
Yeah, it sounds like a hectic
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year ahead in twenty twenty four.
The Lost Dreams EP by Boy in Beer
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is available on September fifteen, and
the tenure Anniversary of Harlequin Dream is available
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on September one. To check out
all twenty five dates from the band's upcoming
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Australian tour, head to boyinbear dot
com, or follow the band on social
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media platforms. Jim, thanks so
much for to chat with me on the
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Garage Rock podcast and I wish you
when the boys all the best for the
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upcoming year. Leijin, thank you
so much.
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Sydney based indie folk rock group Boy
and Bear have announced the release of their
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upcoming EP, Lost Dreams, as
well was revealing a twenty five date tour
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of Australia and joining me now to
have a chat about all news. Boy
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and Bear is drummer Tim Hart.
Welcome to Garage Rock. Appreciate your time,
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man, Yeah, no worries now. There seems to be a fair
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bit going on with the band at
the moment. As I mentioned, you've
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got the new EP coming out as
well as an upcoming tour, but the
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band also had its fifth studio album
released earlier this year, and you're also
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celebrating the ten year anniversary of your
second album, Harlequin Dream. How are
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you guys feeling at the moment with
all of these events? It does sound
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like a lot now that you say
that. Yeah, it's been really interesting.
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Our management, we're like, well, there's going to be a bit
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bit going on this year, and
I think sometimes our head our heads kind
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of lived perpetually in the clouds,
so we're like, oh, yeah,
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we finished the record and back and
then it's ten years from a Harquan Dream
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and we're like, oh wow,
that's you know that makes you feel old
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and then yeah, like we've found
those songs and yeah, it's I don't
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know, there's a lot going on, but at the same time, really
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doesn't feel like that to us because
you just sort of you lock up and
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just keep working. Yeah. I
think that's the one the one consistent we've
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had disappan is that boys felt we're
so privileged to be able to do what
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we love for a living, so
just keep working hard at it, and
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it's just you sort of move from
one thing to the next, and it
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just happens that this year there's a
lot of moving from one thing to the
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next, which is cool an interesting. Yeah, no, it's good.
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I mean, like I said,
it is the ten year anniversary of Harlequin
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Dream. You've got the vinyl set
for release this Friday. Yeah. Yeah.
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What was it like revisiting Harlequin Dream
after ten years? It was it
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was really nostalgic, to be honest, even the EP that we're putting out,
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like, it was very very nostalgic
to hear the songs and it took
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us back to the like a really
fun time. It was. It was
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really cool, Like we worked with
Wayne finally and we worked at a studio
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that doesn't existing are called ours and
it was mixed with a guy that he
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mixed the fleet boxes and machines and
a bunch of stuff. So it was
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a really exciting time for us because
we was still very young man and to
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hear the stuff now and obviously like
Southern Side and I've done a lot for
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our career, Yeah, and we're, you know, obviously very grateful for
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that. So to revisit this stuff, it was really fascinating and and yeah,
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very nostalgic. Have you found that
any of those songs over the last
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ten years have grown on you more
than they initially did or some of the
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meanings have changed for you over that
time. I was convinced I was going
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to get completely sick with selling sound
like, just convinced because we had we've
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had to play it so much,
you know, but I never have.
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There's there's there's some songs that I
think we've realized a more important maybe in
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some ways than others, like back
Down the Black. We've got a lot
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of messages from people who that's helped
out in a from a mental health perspective.
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And I think old old town blues
and there's a song that's just kept
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going algies massive plane. I'm getting
a visual for it as well. It's
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I can't I can say that.
Honestly. I've done a couple of hundred
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interviews. I've never had anyone point
out a plane flying overhead. So it's
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not eighty. I reckon he's I
reckon he's off to London. I reckon
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that that could be QF one.
I'll do a bit of research later and
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find out and let you know,
over see what happens. Yeah, I
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was just gonna say, Yeah,
there are songs like It's particularly like back
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Down the Black Deft, that have
ended up being like feeling more important,
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not not not for any other reason
that like a lot of people who have
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been in touch about them and continue
to get in touch about them. Yeah,
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I mean I really haven't got sick
of any of them. I guess
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what happens is when you when you
get sick of the songs, you just
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don't play it like that. But
yeah, that's fair enough. Well,
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I mean the latest single, Abraham, was released a couple of weeks ago,
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and it's the first track from the
Lost Dream z EP, and it
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was originally written during the Harlequin Dream
sessions. Yeah, Yeah, can you
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tell me a bit about how the
song came about? Yeah, So we
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had these this I guess it was
more like a conceptual idea of moving between
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like a I guess tempos from section
to section, because I guess we were
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really interested in that back then,
and it was this sort of fair fair
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to say ehicle sort of a story
of like a of this sort of escape
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and it's a it's a real sort
of song with escapism, and so we
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tried to like it works really hard
on trying to like join these mood changes
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together, which is really difficult in
the studio at times, and at times
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sort of it happens seem like like
I guess, like a later iteration of
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that for us is that the song
suck on Light. But this was just
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a really interesting one to try and
get that sort of that rollicking start to
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the song to Joel with the group
that happens I guess through the verses and
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choruses. Yeah, and you can
obviously hear that we're still we're very I
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guess we're starting to get really interested
in the seventies sort of harmonies and corals
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sound at that point. Ye.
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like, I thought that was going
to be one of the singles from from
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the from the album, and in
the end, just because of the balance
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of the album, we had to
cut it, which which actually, in
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retrospect seems like a kind of a
shame listening back to it now. But
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people are seemed to be loving it, which is which is really nice.
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That's cool. I was actually gonna
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out for a couple of weeks,
now, what's the reaction been from fans
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to Abraham. You know, it's
been an amazing response. I guess one
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of the great added in life but
also in music is that no one thinks
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about you as much as you think
they do. And so I feel like,
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if I was completely narcissistic, I'd
be like, well, everyone should
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know that this is from How I
Can Dream. Yeah, everyone should know
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that it's a tenure anniversal. But
the reality is that people don't, and
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they just think it's a new song
and they're like, it's really cool,
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and these are the reasons I love
it. And some people obviously that are
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fans, previous fans, they get
it and they understand what it is and
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where it's come from but They're overwhelming
response has just been this is a really
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cool song with a great story,
and it's and it feels good and that
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makes me. That makes me happy. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean
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personally, I think my favorite track
from the upcoming EP is I of the
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Canyon. I could really like the
upbeat rhythm to the song, and the
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hook got caught in my head as
well, which is cool. Can you
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tell me a bit more about how
that came along and how close that was
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to make it to the album?
That song? I can't. I can't
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even remember the bording with that song
from honest, I remember it being quite
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gotten Jubilee Life from like off our
first record, But I remember there was
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there was two songs that were kind
of along that vein Ilican Dream and the
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other one was End of the Line, and I think it ended up being
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between the two of them. On
what would make the record, I voted
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for By the Canyon and got out. I definitely got out voted because it
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didn't end the record. As I
mentioned earlier, the band is getting ready
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to head out on an extensive tour
which includes quite a lot of regional areas.
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Yeah, how much you guys looking
forward to these shows. We love
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to during regionally. It's something we've
always done ever since we started, and
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I, you know, you always
have talked to a lot of artists.
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I think it's like one of the
most overarching points that I think all of
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my friends that the things we're just
so grateful getting. Yeah, we've done
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a future now like that that's not
really normal, but everyone we do.
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I don't think I'll ever lose the
appreciate addition of the fact that you can
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just put on a tour and people
feel confident enough to to buy a ticket
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and come along to it. So
yeah, we're super excited about it.
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And there's some places that I haven't
been before, so nice. That's exciting
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too. Yeah, that's awesome.
Well, actually, both myself and my
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co host Cam have found that crowds
feel a bit different after the COVID break.
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It feels like they really do appreciate
going to live shows again. Have
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you noticed much of a change in
the audience since coming back from COVID.
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Yeah, I'd agree with that,
And I also think there's been a slight
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ship to and and this is I
would say this is like probably a slight
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giffment between Europe and Australia. But
I reckon there's like slightly less phones okay,
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and there's still are a shipload of
phones. But before it just seemed
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like everyone was just continually documenting,
and me be on this tour, I'll
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be like, oh, they fucking
still are. And I don't have a
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problem. People can they pay them
money. They come and see a show,
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You do what you want. But
I find it a real shame because
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when you go see a live show, you just want to look at it
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and hear it and and sort of
I guess, let it watch over you.
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I mean that's what I want to
do because I guess someone new five
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music then. Yeah. But I
think there's definitely like it feels like there's
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a greater appreciation. I think people
are really keen to hang around afterwards and
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just tell you that it means something
to them. That's good. I think
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when you when you take something away
from people for a time and then it's
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back, it's exciting. And I
hope that there's still that stamp on this
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tour. You never know. With
some of those regional ones, they can
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get ready. Yes, yeah,
that is true. Now after the national
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tour wraps up, in November.
Do you guys have any plans for what's
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next or after a big year,
are you're going to just sort of take
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some time off for a bit.
Yeah, we're moving straight on too.
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But we get Christmas off and then
we go straight into a European tour cool,
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and then when we come back from
that, well I'm not even sure
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if I'm allowed to say this,
but but we've got an acoustic album that
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we've almost finished. It's just other
versions of the Boy and Bear like soul
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titled record Cool, and then I
think we've got the States, Canada after
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that, and I don't know after
that. So that's I think that's where
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we're up to. But I mean
I will definitely be recording a new album
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next year as well, So it's
gonna stay busy. It's gonna stay busy.
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But it's all really exciting stuff.
Yeah, it sounds like a hectic
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year ahead in twenty twenty four.
The Lost Dreams EP by Boy in Beer
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is available on September fifteen, and
the tenure Anniversary of Harlequin Dream is available
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on September one. To check out
all twenty five dates from the band's upcoming
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Australian tour, head to boyinbear dot
com, or follow the band on social
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media platforms. Jim, thanks so
much for to chat with me on the
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Garage Rock podcast and I wish you
when the boys all the best for the
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upcoming year. Leijin, thank you
so much.
