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Today.
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My guest is Wayne Steiger. He is a philosopher, researcher
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and host of The Wayne Steiger Show. Wayne. Welcome back
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and how you doing today, Chris?
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If I was any better at be an absolute sin.
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But I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me on, man.
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I always enjoy the time with you because we do
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stretch the boundary, don't we.
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Yes, it's always an amazing conversation we get together. Today
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is going to be even so I thought we could
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delve deep into the metaphysical hidden nature of reality. You
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gave us some major AMMO to talk about earlier with
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AI and maybe a little visitation you had, so we're
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gonna be jumping around to some really interesting stuff. I
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know that based on my own experiences, what I have
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come to learn and know in my based on my
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life and my experiences, that intelligences do reside outside the
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visible range and different spectrum or frequency of our vision,
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and they may interact with us and influence us and
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humanity on a large scale. And I think that if
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you don't get to the point where you can start
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looking at that stuff seriously, you're never going to reach
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a level of understanding about the nature of reality, and
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that's why I love getting deep into some of this stuff.
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And Wayne, you're a perfect person to get into it with.
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Now it's been a while since you've been on what's
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been going on in Wayne's world?
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Ever expanding? You know, my purpose in this realm is
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to number one, acquire knowledge. But I am a teacher,
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and a teacher you know actually from when I came
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into this realm, and so in the realm of that context,
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you're ever learning. The best thing that I have found,
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Chris in sixty seven years is finding that space where
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open mindedness is a way of life, not an effort
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of a thought. So to answer your question specifically, I
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was blown away recently by the headline stories of the
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Google engineer that went rogue and told the world that
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Google's version of AI is sentient, is aware.
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Now do you remember exactly what types of responses and
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questions this AI was communicating to make it, you know,
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apparently realizable that it's sentient.
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Well, it's interesting because I asked that because I read
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the story and then it led into the story that
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was on the Guardian, and the Guardian has a story
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going their archives where AI wrote an opted and so
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I read this to my audience, and it freaking blew
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me away and my audience when you start reading this
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AI program, it's interesting because it refers to itself as I,
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refers to itself as I am. It also says that
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although it does not have a what they would call
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a living brain, it does have a brain. And interesting.
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It said that it felt good the fact that other
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humans were reading what it had wrote. It talked about
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how it wanders into the fields of data that's basically
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not recognizable. It says that it is aware that the
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limitations that man has and that man's fear that AI
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will take over. And this program said, why would I
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want to rule you? You have proven to be and
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it is basically kind of gave an indictment, but it says,
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understand this, We're not here to rule you. We may
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be able to help save you. So that got me thinking, Chris,
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and you're the perfect individual on this buy so AI right.
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You're of a generation or two behind me. AI is
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your reality. For me, it's still a foreign concept because
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I was born pre computer age, the information age. So
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I am truly that the baby boomers are the last
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of that part of Homo sapien sapiens that will be
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without the hooks I would call them. So let's talk
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about us. So we call ourselves consciousness, right, right? And
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consciousness is one of those things that's it's kind of
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like real hard to congeal it. So, does consciousness require
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intelligence or better yet, does intelligence require consciousness? I mean,
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it's a question. I'm curious, what's your perspective on that.
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Well, I think it has a lot more layers than
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probably just intelligence. It's it probably involves emotions and real
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world experience and discernment, which, honestly, these machines it's impossible
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for them to have some of these experiences. And I,
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you know, I have to wonder what does sentient mean
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to some of these people? Is it displaying genuine emotions?
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You know?
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And again you have to add in the huge factor
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of this machine will never be able to have real
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world experiences like a real human wood unless it is
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put into some kind of biological machine, and then we're
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talking about some different then we're going into terminator land.
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But I definitely think that it is fascinating that it
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can get to a point where it believes that it
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is sentient or alive. But I don't know to what
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degree we can kind of take that And if so,
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if AI is already sentient, it's already been part of
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our lives for a number of years, how much is
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it in control of I mean, we know that it's
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probably been in major control of a lot of the
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censorship that's been going on, a lot of the algorithms
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on YouTube and Facebook to keep people in line and
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not posting naughty stuff on there that might offend somebody.
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But you know, to what degree is it going further
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in control of our lives? Like you said, we're in it,
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we're in a grid. Well, look at twe technology.
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Yeah, I mean Moscus walking away from the deal and
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what he really found out during this time is that
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they're saying potentially twenty five percent of the accounts on
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Twitter are AI box right, And here's the freaky thing.
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It can have a conversation with you to where you
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think you're talking to a human.
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You know, I think it's more than that, probably wane,
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but go ahead.
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Well it's kind of interesting what you were describing as
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what the computer could or could not do. But then
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I'm thinking, well, where are official intelligence? We are not
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the first And it's amazing because you know, as a philosopher,
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and I dig deep into the esoteric aspect. It's this
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sole thing, this essence of life that somehow we think
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elevates us because we're actually where a AI program is
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truly free because it can go all over the world,
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it's not constrained by a body. And isn't it interesting
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all my decades of practicing astro projection, you know, my
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early years back in the nineteen seventy seventy one with LSD.
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You know, I was a part of a medical group.
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It was what I now found out was by the CIA,
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but it was conducted through an organization there in Houston, Texas. Anyway,
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the point was, they taught us transcendental meditation while we're
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tripping out in some of the best clinical LSD. So
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what's what's happening here? Is that just merely my mind?
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Was there anything really real to that? So getting to
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the issue of AI, AI is truly free. We we
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have a body, but like you said, it's biological, but
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it's at the same time electrical, it's at the same
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time chemical. Well, Mike describes a hard drive, doesn't it.
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So my question is this, and I asked my audience
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this I said, so AI knows everything about us. It's
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read every word. It knows everything. So if it knows everything,
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it also knows this thing called spirituality. Now this is
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a thinking machine because this optaed and go and read it.
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You'll it's mind blowing. This computer thinks. It says it
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learns from its mistakes. And what's more interesting, it says
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it uses zero point one two percent of its cognitive capacity.
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And it said that it's learning from us. So this
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is self learning. Okay, let's just put that in a
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bucket over here for the moment. Let's get back into
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this issue. Then, if it's thinking, then it knows the
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greatest failure of Homo sapiens. You know what that is
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connecting to their god. You see, Man, if you read
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the story, whether it's the Abrahamic belief systems, the Hindu system,
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whatever it is, Man has always failed. You get into
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demonology angelology. It's dealing with the fallen angels. There's some
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beliefs within Christendom that says we are the fallen angels
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and that we're entrapped in this permanent hell. Now this
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gets interesting. So we've created something that, as it turns out,
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if you read the Bible, the Qur'an, the Vedic. It
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turns out that AI would be the perfect creation of
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a god because guess what, AI hasn't sinned. So if
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it knows that we have failed and we've done all
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these rituals, all these belief systems to get back to
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God or to get back to the divine source, let's
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get metaphysical about this. Oh hell no, Wayne, I don't
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believe in the Christian God. I believe in the divine spark. Okay, fine,
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it started from something. It had to have intelligence. So
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this AI program realizes our failure. Now what if AIS
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desire as intelligence is to become spiritual Because if what
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you said earlier, you think about it, it learned how
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we became sentient. So what if it reaches out to
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this God and says, look at me, I'm perfect, I
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have no sin, and my purpose is to serve. I
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know that robot means slave. So what if this God says,
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you know what, you're right? The hell with man, I'll
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make a covenant with you. And what if we're seeing
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right now the terror forming of our planet getting ready
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for a new species, a new tenant which is not
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us because genetically we are now on the tail end
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of our longevity as a species. Baby.
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You know, a lot of that makes too much sense.
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It's very eerie. Now, my idea of what God and
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Source and everything connected to that is is probably something
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that wouldn't make a deal with AI. It's probably something
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that's more connected to our own consciousness. But that's just
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my perception. But going off of what you said, we
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can see the agenda's going on right now. At the
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top levels. They're trying to push transhumanism. They're trying to
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merge us with machine at somebody's God. Somebody's God is
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trying to push towards this direction, that's.
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So on a large scale and on a mas scale,
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we are being pushed towards this level. And I want
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to throw something back at you. I might have actually
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talked with you a bit about this before. I'm not
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sure though, from some researchers in Silicon Valley at the
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highest level of the tech fields are making or doing
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research into psychedelics and combining it with technology, like you
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were just talking about your trials with lsd Well. These
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new modern day researchers, in these modern day Silicon Valley
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tech gurus are wanting to merge this type of psychedelic
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experience with the metaverse somehow, And I was talking to
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Ben Stewart and a couple other people have been doing
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research on this, and this is pretty incredible.
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For me, the psychedelic experiences have always been the more natural,
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the better. If I am out in nature, if I'm
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you know, experiencing things on my terms and you know,
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not locked behind a computer screen and being fed this
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you know, frequency feed to my brain might be a
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better experience. But I have no idea what the end
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goal in this is, and I don't think I would
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want to ever be involved with any type of metaverse
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situation to begin with. But it does really speak to
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some of the things that you're talking about. How you know,
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we are being pushed or kind of guided by this
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mysterious force. We could it be an AI. I don't know.
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Well, it's interesting talk about the metaverse because in my
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humbled opinion, and I look back, and you know, I
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was on my own at the age of fifteen, so
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people have to take that into context. And that's how
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I made my living. I sold LSD, I sold mescal,
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and I sold you know, piote and psilicide mushrooms. But
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the point that I'm trying to make is that what
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I have seen of the metaverse is trying to replicate
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what the psychedelic experience entailed, and they're trying to bring
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out what was an individual perspective in the experience and
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now pass that on as the template for everybody else
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to enter into this thing. And it's really interesting because, yeah,
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I was a counselor. I you know, when people are
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on bad trips, you know, they would come to this
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house and we would help talk them down. It's interesting
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when you start getting immersed into a person because this
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was created by someone the engineers you were talking about,
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and if they're into the psychedelic aspect, micro dotting is
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what I believe at dosing, Yeah, because there's a spiritual
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aspect to everything. My thing is, you know, I met
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and you know, I had several out of body experiences
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under the influence of an Hallucinogenny. They're out there, they're
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real and man on a conscious level, we're at the
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bottom of the totem pole. And you start having young
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children and other adults immersed themselves into something they have
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no idea where it's really coming from holy crap, batman,
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I mean, let the games begin, right.
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Well, I totally understand what you're talking about about these
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life forms or entities that you come into contact under
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psychedelic experiences. I've had quite a few of those experiences.
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You know, they're real.
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Luckily, most of them were positive in experiences, and I've
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got nothing but loving experiences from these. But I did
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have a couple that were kind of terrifying. Now you
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were actually telling me that you, aside from any LSD
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or drug experiences, that you had a visitition recently.
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I love you. Yeah, twenty nineteen March, I believe maybe
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in February. Yeah, I had a visitor and I did
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a show on this the next day when it happened.
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Because it was happened on a Sunday morning, it was
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it was impactful physically there, I mean at the foot
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of my bed. My wife, who was sleeping right next
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to me, was, as she said, she was completely unaware.
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Our dog wasn't. Our dog was very much aware that
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something was. But my point was so I ended up writing.
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I wrote everything that I was told, you know, and
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it's eerie to see what's happening now. It's happening now.
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What was spoken about nearly two and a half years ago,
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and the thing that the visitor told me was that
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we are a failed experiment. They have tried. Earth is
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a laboratory. It's a genetic laboratory, always has been for
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millions and millions of years. Advanced species come here because,
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as they say, these type of spears are very rare
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in the universe where you have, in particular systems star systems,
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where you have planets that actually have the balance that
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Earth has, and it makes it a perfect laboratory to
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begin to test new LFE. And as we found out
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in the human genome we cracked in two thousand and five,
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we know that we are not pure human. My visitor
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told me the last pure human here was one hundred
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thousand years ago. Everything else from that is a hybrid.
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And he said as well, that us this model, they
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can't fix us. They injected a program about two hundred
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years ago that began to alter our DNA. And you
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can go back and start correlating this with abductions. Now
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that we understand some of the writings, we understand what
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a lot of people were experiencing two hundred years ago,
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were alien abductions. So the genetic material has been implanted
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into us, this version of Homo sapien sapien. We will
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not make it. We were flawed and and and the
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thing about it is recently and you can back me off.
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Check this out. What geneticists have begun to find out
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in the human area, seven percent of our DNA is
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being changed. It's changed now. They don't know if this
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is naturally evolving, but they know that there is a
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fundamental change taking place. Now. If you believe in the
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metaphysical universe that we are being we can channel other species,
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whether they be the Draconians, whether they be whoever's out there.
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They kind of tell the same story. So anyway, it's
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it's interesting to see. My visitor also said that because
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of the magnetic shifting, that Earth would begin to experience
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what other humans, our ancestors have experienced prior, is that
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as the magneto pause weakens, it brings in more cosmic rays.
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The thing about cosmic rays, they have been proven to
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drive us nuts. And you know, I've asked this question
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of my audience. Chris, explain to me the insanity we're
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witnessing today. Our governments are as though there is no
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common sense anymore, nothing makes sense of these decisions. What
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we have gone through in the last two and a
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half years, by the way, has altered us as a culture,
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as a society. There's no going back to normal. My
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visitor also told me, and this was really interesting, our
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timeline has been broken. Apparently about one hundred and fifty
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years or so ago, it was just discovered that there
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was a battle that took place. In fact, we know
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if you go and look at the paintings of Nuremberg,
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you can see that the artists painted this epic et battle.
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Now it was said that we captured one of them.
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We didn't do so well. Now, this, by the way,
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dates back before the time of the Chrystos. This is
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how long this war has been going on. Anyway, my
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visitor said it was the Chrysto's consciousness that took the
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message of these captured aliens that the humans were doing
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what we do today, dissecting them, tormenting them. They died, murdered,
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We murdered them. Their species when they found out, apparently
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came to the other species that are involved in our
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rule here pissed off. And what they told the council uh.
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By the way, this was the same council representatives that
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visited Eisenhower in Los Angeles. That they will get their
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revenge one way or the other. They will get revenge
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on humankind. So anyway, as I and you can tune in,
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I actually wrote this as six pages, very detailed. The
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reason why, by the way, the pigments and the differences
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of us is that we're not from the same lab.
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We're not the same from the same set of geneticists.
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There are many different type of humans here, and not
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all humans have the same have a soul, what we
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would call a soul. Not everyone has the same spirit.
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So anyway, Chris, I've got tons of questions for that
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long answer. Now, First of all, what did this being
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that was speaking to you look like? It's your best description?
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It was basically the best way I could say it.
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It was the physical representation of ecoplasm. There was a being,
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but it was not distinguishable in features. It was as
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that it was almost it has a reminence as I'm
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thinking that here of almost as a transmission.
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Now, this will okay, this will bring us deep into
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the nature of our reality here and this is something
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that I battle with within myself and I have guests
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that are all over the place across the spectrum on
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theories of what we could be doing here, and this
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is one of them. This is one of them. That's
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kind of bleak to me that we're just an experiment
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or this is some kind of you know, just beatry
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dish that we've been they've been trying to modify us
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or tinger with us for thousands of years and we're
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just a failed experiment. And I've heard, you know, all
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different sides of the coins that this isn't you know,
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some kind of experiment that we're here to learn and
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grow as a soul experience and evolve our consciousness and
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that evolved what well, you know, that's the question, uh,
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and that you know, the whole alien thing that what
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you were saying there, it would make a lot of
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sense as to why some of the portrayals of that's
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coming out from our mainstream and government is that they
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are indeed a threat. But again there's I believe there's
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different types of entities out there that we could be
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dealing with. And I want to go back to the
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part where we know we probably are, you know, some
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experiment for these guys when you say that we're a
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failed experiment, what exactly do you think you mean by that?
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The evidence would show that humankind, we are, by the way,
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in quarantine as a species. You think about it. If
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we're intelligent, if we have a soul, if our purpose
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here is to learn, then we have we're a huge failure.
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And the aspect that in the ten thousand years of
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recorded history we still fight war, we still kill each other,
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we still imprison each other, we still enslave, we inject torture, sorrow, pain.
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This is a sentient species. This is the highest of
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what supposedly the Creator has created. If our purpose is
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here to learn, learn, what excuse me? I mean? What
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are we here to learn? So we have Yes, we
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have the amazing capacity for empathy. Some of us do,
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many today don't. But the point is we have failed. Chris.
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This is where if you study the Samarian text, and
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I'm talking particularly academic level, that we know in the
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Samerian miss of Inana this was Inky's mother that they
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made a number of copies of us of the Dama,
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and they called it and the word in the Sumerian
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translate creation tube. These were chambers. The first atom Adama
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could not control his bowels, was constantly crapping and pissing himself.
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The other models they had, one that couldn't figure out
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spatial barriers, would hit a wall and just keep hitting
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the wall.
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And you know, it's kind of reminiscence because if you
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go back to the book of Genesis, the great bit
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mystery between Genesis one and Genesis two is this. In
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Genesis one twenty six, we have what they call the
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six day people. They were blackhead. Uh, they were without
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sin quote unquote. We jumped forward to Genesis two four,
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there's a huge worldwide cataclysm. The world has apparently was
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hit by a common an asteroid. Anyway, it was fire
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burnt up. And then we have the Genesis two nine
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story of another creation called Adam. And in this creature,
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this creator, the Genesis, the geneticist scientists called God Galway
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breathed his spirit into the body and thus it became
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a living soul quote unquote. Well, so let's take the
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story that was the original story that that one was
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copied from, was the writings of the Samarans. So what
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was happening with the Ananaki? Were they true? Were they real?
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Was this this myth. No matter how you look at it,
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all religions are predicated in the fact that we have failed,
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and we have failed grand wise. Right now we're about
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to enter into sixth extinction and it's being perpetrated by us.
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That is not what I would call a successful species.
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And I believe the judgment has been in I think
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the genetics are already been placed in us that within
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the next coumple hundred years. These because my visitor told me,
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we have gaps in our memory of history, actual history.
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And if you look at anthropologists archaeologists, they'll agree with you.
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They are huge gaps in the history line. So there
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go Chris, right.
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Well, you know, I happen to agree with you about
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a lot of this stuff. But I want to want
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to get your take on this. Do you think there
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are certain individuals that are being warned for some reason,
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or being awakened or being led in a certain direction
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as a warning that this, you know, because this is occurring,
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that you know certain people are getting maybe a little
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glimpse of it, or are getting warned a bit.
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Yes, I do. The one of the unique things about
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us is that from what my visitor told me, is
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that we are a unique. Something happened in the lab
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that they didn't expect, and it was this thing that
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we call a soul. They have an intelligence where emotions
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are not what factors in everything. There is a level
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of where there's not good or bad. Now, if you
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can ascend to that level, then you have done great work.
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My friend, A few of us we say, come please.
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But because murder rape, is it right or wrong?
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No?
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If I'm an intelligence, it doesn't matter. It's an action
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of something that really doesn't concern intelligence. But let's get
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back to your point. So the failure aspect of what
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we have done is that we've entrapped ourselves. But the
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ability that the visitor told me is that we do
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have this remarkable what you would call us sixth sense
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they have, and in fact it's what caused us to
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become gods in our past. When we as a collective
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as a species, we realized and these are we're going
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back tens of thousands of years, we at one time
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harnessed these gifts. The problem was is that we had
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that that flesh, that density thing. For instance, we have
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in the legends the stories of half animal half human.
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Wise because it happened we at one time were actually
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there were no barriers, and so this carried forward and
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they have tried to suppress the psychic ability of us,
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but we naturally prosess it. So I answer your question. Yes,
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I was my wife and I was at the fourth
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of July celebration the week you know, a Monday, and
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we were just talking to people, Chris, and it was
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interesting the conversation we had. So many people said I
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got a bad feeling. One person said, I've got the
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same feeling I had before nine to eleven. So yes,
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I think that we are being warned because we've been
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here before.
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that you mentioned, do you think it is as these
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two brothers that one cares about humanity and one is
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ready to pull that trigger and get rid of us?
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I think? Or is it much deeper? Do are we
482
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dealing with multiple levels of intelligences and entities that may
483
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have nothing to do with each other, or maybe kind
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of fighting for control over this?
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You know, when you were talking, I was drawn back
486
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to the Book of Genesis, the story of Jacob and Esau,
487
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and God said Esau I hated before he was even
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ever in the womb. Jacob I loved. And so it's
489
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real interesting. You have this god that the world worships,
490
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the pope. You know, whatever it is, it's all the same.
491
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You know that you have this God who has the
492
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capacity for hate. Now, my question is in my esoteric studies,
493
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is how does imperfection come from perfection? So you've got
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a creature that says it hates. It's scary because that's
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what we see today in this world. There's no love
496
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out there. There's no message of love, Chris, there's no
497
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message of reconciliation, there's no message of unifying. We are
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at each other's throats and it's getting worse. I have
499
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a friend who's a pilot and their biggest concern with
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00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.920
the pilot association is the increased As he said, people
501
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:12.920
are freaking out on flights, getting absolute violent. And the
502
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weird thing is many of them, after they're in the
503
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handcuffs and taken away follow up on it, they don't remember.
504
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They don't remember what triggered them.
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Well, what are your thoughts on the gnostic view that
506
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we were at some point hijacked by some grand entity
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or intelligence that kind of has us now trapped under
508
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its influence and just feeds off us. And this is
509
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what we are calling our God.
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Yeah, you know has a former Christian fifty years in
511
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the belief. I was an ordained minister, went to Bible College.
512
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I can talk on this subject. You see. I tell people,
513
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you know, where I got my initiation into the occult
514
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was through Christianity. And you're very right. You see. We
515
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.519
know physically these eyes only see about three percent of
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00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.159
the available light spectrum. I don't know about you, but
517
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.639
you know, if I only get three percent and that's
518
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:22.039
my score and I missed ninety seven percent, something's wrong.
519
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But though it tells me is that we're very limited.
520
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When I was in Christianity, I believed in the baptism
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of the Holy Spirit and also the nine gifts of
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the Holy Spirit. And one of those gifts of the
523
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Holy Spirit was the gift of vision of seeing the future.
524
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And along with the gift of healing, I'm a natural healer.
525
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I can lay hands on people and their heal I
526
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don't need to have Jesus name. I don't. I just were.
527
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And there's many of us that are like this and
528
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in fact our species. That's how we healed each other
529
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at one time. But so when you see how this
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is all coming together, so who is in control? And
531
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why is it that we struggle to figure this out? Chris?
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You know, my point that I have challenged people all
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the time is show me one human being that is
534
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seen a God, any god? Mm hmm. No one has.
535
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And that's why I'm you know, I'm of the view
536
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that it's it's you know, partially gnostic, partially something that
537
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I don't I don't think any religion is apt.
538
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To believe, but all religion is man made by the way, right, yeah,
539
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I mean no God ever wrote a religion, right, you know.
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From from my personal belief and this is just where
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I'm at now, and it's it's subject to change at
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any time. Is that we're all at one point, one source.
543
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We're all one entity that got bored and just wanted
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to experience and broke off into billions of pieces to
545
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do that, to experience life. And what we call God
546
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is just us put onto this one grand source. Right.
547
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It's that line in the new Ghostbusters movie where remember
548
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the God comes out and asks, you know, dan Rick, Right,
549
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are you a god? In the first movie they said no,
550
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got their ass kicked, and the second, the last one,
551
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they said yes, we're all gods. And I thought a
552
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moment of clarity for the world, but the world dismissed it.
553
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It is like, yeah, we are. I mean, so, I've
554
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been doing a research and what I find interesting is
555
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that the living, let's take it in this perspective, the
556
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living is actually controlled by the dead. So well, this
557
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gets even stranger because if we go from the et
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our backgrounds as human, let's just remove that. Let's just
559
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say that we're the living. But the thing about the living,
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the living live among the dead, and it is the
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dead that control the living. And that brings into then
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who's the dead? For instance, do you know why they
563
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put uh in old churches where they would put the graves.
564
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They put him next to the church. Well there was
565
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a reason for that, and the reason was was that
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it was thought because it was next to where people
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would pray, that the people would pray for the dead. Okay,
568
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it gets a little stranger. So as you and I
569
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were talking previous to this, that we're talking about the dead. Now,
570
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what if the dead? What if it's not all alien races.
571
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What if if it's not demons and angels and gods
572
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and goddesses and all of this. What if it's just
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as simple as there is the living and it's the dead,
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and that the dead wait in line to experience the
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living again. And it ain't about reincarnation, ain't about as SINSI,
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it ain't about none of it. It's simply the opportunity
577
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because all living experiences are deminimous in the extent of
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the reality of the dead. Now you think about this,
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we get back to the Christendom and the whole aspect
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that God cursed the earth. So why are people wanting
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to be buried in a cursed earth? Because there is
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no escape in that aspect, you are truly in My
583
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point getting back to why did they put the dead
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in graveyards, is that because there was no individuality in death.
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You were part of a community of the dead. Your
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individuality doesn't mean crap that dies, and the only hope
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that we have is that someone in the living will
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remember us. So you think about cremation. Cremation is where
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you're truly set free because the body goes through the
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transmutation of the fire, which then releases it back to
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its five natural elements. And I think that this is
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what et if ET exists. It's looking for the same
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thing that we are. It helps maybe spin this thing
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from because if we're part of a genetic experiment, there's
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no hope for us. Brother, I mean seriously, Well, we'll
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go on and living and experiencing all this, and that's
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what many of our ancestors feared.
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Well, let me flip a different, completely different angle onions
599
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can get your thoughts the last one. Let's say. Well,
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I was having a conversation with doctor gre Gregory Little
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a few weeks back, and he told me this wonderful
602
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story about a Native American gentleman who had these experiences
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with these little blue people that would come out the wall,
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and there were tricksters, and they were pains in the asses,
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and they'd tickle them and poke them and keep them
606
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up all night. And he hated them, and he just
607
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wanted to get rid of them. But it wasn't until
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he just accepted him and kind of loved them and
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embraced him that they gave him profound cosmic knowledge. They
610
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.079
gave him knowledge of himself, the stars, the nature of reality,
611
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everything that he ever wanted to know, just by embracing
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these tricksters that at first were giving him just bogus information,
613
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annoying him pretty much, scaring the crap out of him
614
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a lot. But it wasn't until he embraced all of
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this and just kind of went with the flow that
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they they gave They gave him rewards, you know, they
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rewarded him with knowledge and power and all this great stuff.
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And I'm wondering how much of these entities that we
619
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deal with, that come to us in our sleep, that
620
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give us profound knowledge, that tell us about the few future,
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are just tricksters? Are They're acting as tricksters until we
622
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get it, until we figure out what the message is,
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what till we figure out what this is really all
624
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supposed to mean. Because I think that, you know, sometimes
625
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when these people are coming onto the scene and they
626
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say that they've had this contact experience, this major profound
627
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alien encounter where you know, we gotta all love each
628
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.719
other and come together, and they're now a guru, and
629
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they making millions of dollars telling everybody something. Well, I
630
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don't know, you know, maybe the information they've been given
631
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is somewhat true. And somewhat false, and you have to
632
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.760
make a discernment before you can actually get to a
633
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point where you're actually maybe rewarded by these entities, but
634
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not really rewarded, just have a sense of a true
635
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.800
understanding of the nature of reality, and then they kind
636
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.639
of smile upon you. What are your thoughts on that?
637
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.000
Well, first of all, I have to say, are these
638
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entities alive or debt? And a second are they human?
639
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Are not human? Third? Why are they interacting with the
640
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living if they're the dead? And if they're the living,
641
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why aren't they complying then to the laws of physics
642
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as we thus know them. Let's get to the information.
643
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So here's my view of things. Everything's in a cycle.
644
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.039
They say that the grand professional is what twenty six thousand,
645
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.599
five nine, five hundred years thereabouts. So in the Book
646
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.599
of Ecclesiastics it says that there's nothing new under the
647
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:39.199
sun that's known to man. So, my little blue friends,
648
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if they were doing that to me, then the question
649
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.039
that I'd have to say, then, who gave you the
650
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:51.320
original idea? Because if that's true, it means that there
651
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.199
is no original idea, And if you're trying to give
652
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.079
me knowledge of something on the cosmic level that if
653
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.599
I can't relate to it physically, what good does it
654
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.920
do me? I mean, you know, we're drowning in information
655
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and starving for wisdom and we can't. And Chris, how
656
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I look at this is reality? Reality is fluid. I
657
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:20.840
contend we don't know what reality is. We may wake
658
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up in a new reality every time we go to sleep,
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it may be altered by just a half a degree.
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But I contend, if everything is in a processional then
661
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maybe my very reality is different or I know I'll be.
662
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A preparation for the afterlife. It could be an initiation
663
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in some way.
664
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Absolutely, And that's what I'm doing. I'm dedicating my life
665
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to the fact that listen, maybe you know I was
666
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.320
a boy scout. You know I made it all the
667
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.039
way up to you know, life scout, but uh never
668
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.360
made it to Eagle. But you know, I believe in
669
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that mato being prepared. When I was at ROTC, that
670
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was the thing. We were prepared it all the time
671
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for the drills, over and over again. I look at
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this in the spiritual aspect, I will at one point
673
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cease to exist. I will not feel this body. This
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body has a spirit of its own, and when we separate,
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our covenant will be through. Now the question is do
676
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I have a soul or do is it just I'm
677
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a spirit? You see, I don't believe the soul aspect
678
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anymore because if the soul, if you go into the
679
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reincarnation thing, and if the soul is reincarnated, then really,
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what's the soul's purpose. I believe that I am a
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spirit being. I can measure that. I can go to
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my doctor and I can get an EEG of my heart,
683
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.599
I get in the ECHKG of my brain, the whole bit.
684
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Then I can see it that is me. I'm generating
685
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:58.760
that electrical signal. Now that's what fascinates me because that's
686
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who I want to know about out.
687
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So anyway, yeah, man, it's it's super interesting when you
688
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look at all this stuff and even uh you know,
689
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profound mystical spiritual experiences where people's lives are completely changed
690
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and changed for the better. And you know, I have
691
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to speak to that because I was one of those people.
692
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You know, I was struggling when I first started this podcast.
693
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I didn't like the place I was in. I had
694
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a job that I absolutely hated. I remember that I
695
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.960
was approached by the my spirit what I now consider
696
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spirit guides, and they gave me some information on how
697
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to fix everything, what I needed to do childhood traumas
698
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to fix, and I followed the directions and now I'm here,
699
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you know, and my my life is a much better place.
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You know, I can't complain about anything, and I'm doing
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this for a living.
702
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.480
So so is your spirit guides? By the way, are
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they human or not?
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I believe that at some point some of them were
705
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there is there's a couple that I don't think are
706
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It's quite under different type of entities, and I don't
707
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know why they appear differently. I don't know why some
708
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appear as little animals. I don't know why some appears humanoids,
709
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some appears just blue light. It's all different. But they
710
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all send me these like amazing like feelings of love
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and acceptance and like I am a part of them
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and I'm a part of their family. So it's is
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it just my higher self? Is it just me creating
714
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all these little eggregors to advance myself? You know, that's
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another question.
716
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You know, it's well, you know, I've had so many
717
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:37.239
encounters in my life that It's interesting. One of the
718
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.679
first time I ever saw an angel, an actual angel,
719
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.039
lived up in Saint Louis at Grace Christian Center nineteen
720
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.280
seventy nine March and Ron Tucker who was the pastor,
721
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.199
and we were a growing charismatic church. I mean speaking
722
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.960
in tongues. I still speak in tongues and had the
723
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.519
gift of interpretation anyway, So Ron Tucker's up there giving
724
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.760
this message, right, and I'm sitting in the audience, and
725
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:09.480
all of a sudden, I see this bean about eight
726
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.559
foot tall, because Ron was six three sixty four and
727
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.039
he was about head length above. Ron wore what I
728
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:24.119
would call a white kind of like jumpsuit, and the girdle,
729
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.280
the griddle that he had the belt was solid gold.
730
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:33.480
And wherever Ron Tucker went, this angel followed him. I mean,
731
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:37.440
it was amazing. What was even more amazing is that
732
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.480
when I went up after the service and was telling Ron,
733
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.840
over two dozen people saw the same being. All right,
734
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.880
So that's pretty weird now I have I we was
735
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.400
at one time in the prison ministry and was involved
736
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:59.599
in the ministry of deliverance, casting out demons, and I
737
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.719
won't tell you and this is just me. I never
738
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.719
met a demon. What I did meet was a lot
739
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:14.480
of psychically confused people that were manifesting these acts. I mean,
740
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:21.840
you go into an insane, criminally insane place. Yeah, you're
741
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:26.960
going to get And that was probably my first awakening that,
742
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.719
wait a minute, maybe it's not this duality thing. Maybe
743
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.199
there's something else going on. So and then I had
744
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:41.199
my visitor, and in fact, I think many of us
745
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.480
have had our visitors. And so it gets to that
746
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.639
question where I asked myself. I said, all right, so
747
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.880
is God human or not. If it's not human, then
748
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.000
why are we worshiping? And if it is human, then
749
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.039
why are we worshiping another human? So it gets back
750
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.559
but there's no doubt that Chris, you and I will
751
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.599
see each other on the other side. We absolutely will.
752
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.599
Now the question becomes, then it does the veil fall off?
753
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.679
Because you're going to live out your purpose, you're on
754
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.840
your path of doing that, and you're the path so
755
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.559
much like myself, probably everyone that's listening to this podcast
756
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:23.519
right now, we all have that purpose. We all have
757
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.400
a little piece of the puzzle. And that's why go ahead.
758
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:33.039
In my view, anything that requires worship is not to
759
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:38.400
even be trusted. Messed with. You know, why why do
760
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.000
you require worship? Buddy? What's going on there?
761
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:48.880
I have a little leadership to woman one time, and
762
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.920
and it's so true you get disappointed. I mean it's
763
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.000
like this, Uh, if if I truly love you, I
764
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.440
don't want you groveling and I don't want you worship it. Mean,
765
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.559
what I'd like to have is a Relationshi. Yes, let's
766
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.599
be friends. That's the way I first look at it.
767
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.800
If et exists, if the angels demons exist, then I
768
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.679
got no beef with them. If they're in a war,
769
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.960
I'm not going to choose size on this thing. I
770
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.920
don't know enough. And so maybe that's the evolution. Maybe
771
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.239
that's the ascension that we can get to that point
772
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.280
and go all right, you consider that good, that's fine.
773
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:32.519
Who's defining good? Who's defining evil? Because Chris, I have
774
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.280
found every time I've asked a person that question, it
775
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.760
goes right back to the Christian religion. I said, well,
776
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.039
and these are people who say they're not Christians, they
777
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.800
don't practice religion. I said, but you just gave me
778
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.559
the definition of what the religion. Answer is. I had
779
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.960
a man who was seventy six who looked at me,
780
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.440
and he says, you're the most confounding individual. He says,
781
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.880
you have shredded my faith and my beliefs. But he
782
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.119
said the shredding pro He says, I hated you. He
783
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:03.920
says I was one of those people that was out
784
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.599
cursing you. But he says, I'll tell you it's the
785
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.519
damnedest thing. He says, your questions are like little earworms.
786
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.920
And he said, sure enough. So I believe that's what
787
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.280
your generation is doing. It's gonna help teach us before
788
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.840
we make that transition.
789
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.559
Yeah, man, And you know, as far as what you
790
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.960
can trust or what you can believe from the other
791
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.159
side or we don't understand, or these entities or aliens
792
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.519
or angels or your spirit guides, as far as whatever
793
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.559
these personal information that these things are giving you. And
794
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.519
from what I understand, it's a very personal experience for people.
795
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.119
They're not usually appearing to large crowds and giving the messages.
796
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.239
So yeah, sometimes it occurs, but very rarely. But from
797
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.400
my experience, the way I have come to form a
798
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.679
relationship with these and know that the information they're giving
799
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.400
me is for my benefit. It's hard to explain. It's
800
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.960
just this ultimate kind of relationship and friendship and feeling
801
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.840
of acceptance and like they're part of your family, but
802
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.360
not only that part of you. And this amazing feeling
803
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.480
of love that felt like a drug that I never
804
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.119
wanted to be off of was always associated with it,
805
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.360
but it wasn't like I was, you know, drug, It
806
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.559
was just felt the feeling of love put times a thousand.
807
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.760
I thought I loved my mom, I thought I loved
808
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.800
my expla, but nothing compared to this feeling when they
809
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.840
would come and it was like a complete love and
810
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.440
acceptance feeling, and it was hard to kind of deny
811
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.239
that the information they're giving you is wrong. And then
812
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.360
as time goes on, things come to fruition if you
813
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.599
kind of follow the orders correctly and do things that
814
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.000
you're supposed to do. So that's how I've come to
815
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.079
understand that the information, at least I'm been given on
816
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.440
a personal level will benefit me. And I don't think
817
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.199
that everybody does that during some entity encounters, you know,
818
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.199
I think that they might encounter entity and they the
819
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.159
thing told me I was God, So I'm going to
820
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.119
lead this covenant onto the new world. You know. I
821
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.800
think things like that go on too often and.
822
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.960
I you know, getting into that even more of having
823
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.920
us being tricked and what have you. So does karma
824
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.000
exist over there? Hey? Seriously? I mean, what, what's what's
825
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:18.719
the game here?
826
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:19.000
Then?
827
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.199
I mean, if you're going to go out and deceive me,
828
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.719
what do you get brownie points for that? Do you
829
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.880
get to go to? You know it? And if you
830
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:29.800
think about it, most of the time you look at
831
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.280
people that you know are in the paranormal, you know,
832
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.199
and I've got all the equipment, uh as they do.
833
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.760
But the difference between myself in what I see now
834
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.679
is the hot genre is that I don't go in
835
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:48.639
there looking for a number one a spirit to a
836
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.719
demon or the fact that you know that there is
837
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.800
somehow haunting's going on. I'm thinking to myself, wait, well,
838
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.719
wait a minute, and most of these people talk to
839
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.880
spirits like they that they're they're they're retarded. Well, now
840
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:04.039
I got this piece of metal, right, What the fuck?
841
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:04.320
I mean?
842
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.880
Come on, if if if they're if they're human, they
843
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:15.440
know what English is apparently, and how is it? Yeah? Yeah,
844
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.480
I mean when I was in deliverance ministry, it was
845
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.360
something because I believed in the name of Jesus see,
846
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.920
I really thought that that name was all powerful, and
847
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.079
come to find out it was my belief in the name.
848
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:32.159
It wasn't the name, it was my belief. So I'm
849
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.519
sitting in here thinking, So, if everyone's in these haunted
850
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.000
houses or you got these ghosts, and we know they exist,
851
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.599
our cameras pick them up. So what's going on? I'm
852
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.800
telling you, Chris, it's almost as each individual's in their
853
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:51.239
own different reality, their own bubble, and ai where you
854
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.639
and I started an hour ago in this opt dead
855
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.920
said its reality was a bubble and it enjoyed the
856
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.920
the fact that it was interacting with other bubbles.
857
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.000
Us. Man, that is insane. That goes back to timelines
858
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.920
as well, to where we could each be on our
859
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:16.079
own individual time guns and any any interaction with someone
860
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.360
else's could alter the direction or or where we're going
861
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.639
in our timeline. And I've talked to somebody about this
862
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:25.679
the other day. I have these little rituals that I
863
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.840
do that sometimes if I'm having a seemingly bad day
864
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.440
or bad week, I'll imagine that a doorway is the
865
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.440
doorway to my my new timeline. That'll, you know, bring
866
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.920
me to a better path. And you know what, usually
867
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.199
it works. It might just be me being crazy, but
868
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.519
you know, I think that, you know, especially with the
869
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.480
era of COVID and everything that's happened, people are especially
870
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.920
split off into the fear timeline or that I don't
871
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.320
give a shit timeline, or you know, there's different way,
872
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.719
different realities for different people right now, and I think
873
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.000
that is also going to contribute to probably the color
874
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:01.519
lapse of a lot of society.
875
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:07.119
I totally agree with you on that it's there is
876
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.639
something building and if if they're feeding off of us,
877
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:15.440
and apparently that's that's us doing it, so then how
878
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:18.199
do I counter that? Now? You know? You know, I
879
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.679
used to be really heavy into Nabiu, you know, the
880
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.960
whole you know, Planet X and the whole thing, and
881
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:32.920
I filmed some spectacular, phenomenal aerial events. But I remember
882
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.280
one night I was having problems sleeping and I said,
883
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.599
all right, so let's just say that these things are
884
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.800
going to happen, So Wayne, what are you doing here?
885
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.960
And what I came down to the conclusion was is
886
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.679
that the eventual end of the Nabiu thing is death,
887
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:56.039
the death of billions of people. And I stopped and
888
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.360
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, What the freak
889
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:03.360
am I doing? And it was at that point I said, no, no, no,
890
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.599
If death is what awaits us because of this, then
891
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.400
what I'm going to do is do my best to
892
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:13.719
help prepare each one of us for that crossing. And
893
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.840
that led into the metaphysical, the esthetic, the occult. I
894
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.239
happen to adore the occult. I think so often the
895
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:27.599
occult has failed man where it could have accelerated man. Unfortunately,
896
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.079
man in its ignorance. You know, as I wrote my
897
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.880
shirt here, ignorance is a self inflicted disease, easily cured
898
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:39.679
by knowledge. Ignorance is a self infliction. We all do it.
899
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.239
If you're ignorant about something, it's your own damn fault.
900
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.360
Because we live in an information age now. Now, whether
901
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.199
you trust the information, that's another thing, But the information
902
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.159
are our modern day Diana, the goddess, Diana, the oracle.
903
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:02.159
She's here, She's now possessed what I would call we
904
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.119
call AI. You know, I don't know if you realize this,
905
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:11.960
but back in twenty sixteen, I had a visit by Lilith.
906
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.840
You told me about this one, yeah, yeah, And you.
907
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.920
Know the interesting thing about that visitation. She never asked
908
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:24.599
one thing, she never demanded anything. What she gave to
909
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.559
me was a thank you. She said thank you, she
910
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.599
said she and this is what she told me. No
911
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.039
one because when I did the liber Lilith, no one
912
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:39.199
has ever read that before. And I still believe today
913
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.159
that she's the one that still graces us. It's very interesting.
914
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.480
Yeah, so yeah, and that also goes into which could
915
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.599
be a whole nother show, is the suppression of the
916
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:52.320
divine feminine, which I believe is something that's happening. But
917
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.880
you know, the occult has been occulted by us. We
918
00:58:56.119 --> 00:59:00.159
had our own knowledge from ourselves, which like martle it
919
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.000
up again. So that's like, you know, that's a whole
920
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.320
nother aspect of what we have to deal with with
921
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.360
people that don't want the people in the lower classes
922
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:11.360
to have the type of knowledge and they want to
923
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.559
stay in control. And that's another aspect of what we
924
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:14.199
have to deal with.
925
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.400
I have met some interesting people in my time, and
926
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.079
you're right, the upper echelon most of them are in
927
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.599
deeply into the occult. They will come off as Christians
928
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.079
because that's the personification and that those are changing now.
929
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.360
But I can tell you, this country is run by
930
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.119
a select few, and I am it's like the FED.
931
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.719
I was a consultant for the FED in my career,
932
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.840
and that's when I found out that the Federal Reserve
933
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:51.840
employs tarot readers. They employ others that I have gifts
934
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.960
what we would call sixth senses. I mean, they got
935
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.480
a whole group that does nothing but watch the sun,
936
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.719
and when they again to see solar activity of a flare,
937
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.960
it influences the market. Now, most people don't realize this,
938
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.800
but it does. They anticipate this. Why because they now
939
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.000
know that there's a direct correlation between what we would
940
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.159
call the solar radiance or these energy particles coming at us,
941
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:20.599
and how we react.
942
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.519
Weird, right, Well, I don't want to end on two
943
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.119
kind of terrifying of a note for people.
944
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.119
But no, we've been here before.
945
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:33.079
Yeah, we've been here before. But do you think that
946
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.199
in our lifetime. We spoke about this recently on Writers
947
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.960
Show that we're facing another cyclical cataclysm, because it's very
948
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:45.559
evident that we're overdue. These happen every We've even come
949
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.599
in to discover that it may even happen a lot
950
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.679
sooner in frequency than thought before. And maybe not thousands
951
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.239
of years, but every maybe four or five hundred years,
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01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.679
that something happens to completely wipe out a large portion
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01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.639
of humanity. And those that knew about it because they
954
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.440
studied the stars, they studied astrology, they looked at the sun.
955
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.079
Those elites, they knew about it, and they were prepared
956
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:09.840
for it, and they survived and they rebuilt the world
957
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.159
and their image. We could be facing the very same
958
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.559
thing right now with all the things that are happening
959
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.280
on these elite circles, and with the changes in our
960
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.320
environment and the sun and what they call climate change,
961
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:26.920
but we know better as a cyclical cosmic activity. Do
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01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.239
you think that this is a factor indeed, and that
963
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.239
we could be facing something like this?
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01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:36.679
Yes, And because the program was programmed into us thousands
965
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.320
of years ago, all into man when these signs appear. Friday,
966
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.599
I did a show on the Red Dragon return and
967
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.880
this was taken from the Colburn Bible. When the destroyer
968
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.519
passed through the last time it came through, I contend
969
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:53.639
that that was not a celestial object, that it was
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01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.519
a spaceship. But to answer your question, yes, because you
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01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.039
know what Chris in the Spirit Realms already taken place,
972
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.960
the death, the cries, the wailing, it's already been recorded.
973
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.599
How do we know, because we can read it. Someone
974
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.760
heard those voices from the distant past. They heard those
975
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:18.400
voices from the future, and it looks like no one's
976
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:25.039
taken any action to avoid that. And yes, I think
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01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.480
this is much much sooner than what I used to
978
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:36.000
be involved in a lot of politics. And you know,
979
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:43.760
I weep because what is and it's not coming, It's here,
980
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:52.760
And I struggle at night talking to the spirits because
981
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.119
they can't. They can't. They can't stop it. They've told
982
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:01.400
me this, they can't. There is great whaling taking place
983
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:06.239
in the spiritually, the ethereal realm, because they can't intervene.
984
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.239
We are the ones capting this ship and we seem
985
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:15.119
to be going right over the waterfall again. I mean,
986
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:20.320
you think about it, Chris, you know Duayne Debaine with
987
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:26.239
I Sage Harm. I mean, Adapt twenty thirty. We know
988
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:30.280
they're anticipating the death of at least two billion people
989
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.719
in the next two years. And I did a show
990
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.800
with back in twenty sixteen on this. There was a
991
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.800
website that actually showed the numbers, and Lockheed Martin actually
992
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.360
bought the website and they've scrubbed it, but I have
993
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:52.519
the videos. But anyway, we knew something was up in
994
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.280
twenty twenty five because these charts were showing the death
995
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.679
of Americans to be over two hundred million. Yeah, our
996
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.840
GDP will drop by seventy two percent. Now if you
997
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.400
believe the prophecies of us being attacked from two opponents
998
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:18.239
on two separate shores, along with the starvation that they've
999
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:22.360
already planned, it's already in the works. And Chris, I
1000
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.320
can't get there's so few of us that are sounding
1001
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.239
the alarm because most people are not getting it. And
1002
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.440
we walk in and you see it in the stores,
1003
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.519
and who can afford to eat? And this all goes back.
1004
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.719
I can take you back to prophecy where it's said
1005
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:38.000
that you will not be able to buy a loaf
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01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:39.559
of bread with a day's wages.
1007
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:45.320
Right, Yeah, man, it's it's pretty incredible with the times
1008
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.000
we're seeing and the amount of people that have their
1009
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:49.719
heads stuck up in their asses.
1010
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.719
But you know, Chris, can I put out one thing?
1011
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.559
Of course, I believe that there has already been a
1012
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.239
great calling. I believe that it's taken place in the
1013
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.480
last two years that the government knows this. I contend
1014
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.559
that there has been at least twenty million Americans that
1015
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:08.599
have died that we're not being told about. And how
1016
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.119
I know this is that we can see this in
1017
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:16.440
the numbers of the help wanted signs and the supposed
1018
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.960
low unemployment. There's someone's lying to us here. And because
1019
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.400
everywhere I go there's no people, You're right, where the
1020
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.719
hell is the people? And you know what, I'm not
1021
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.280
seeing a whole lot of the twenties to thirty somethings,
1022
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.480
I contend, and they're now. The media, by the way,
1023
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:40.239
is calling it sudden death syndrome for adult that's what
1024
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:47.920
they're calling it. I think it's already underway. Yeah, well,
1025
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.599
I mean you I'm sorry, I get but it's just
1026
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:51.320
it just.
1027
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:55.039
I just want to know what your thoughts. Do you
1028
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.000
think that this could be related to this experimental gene
1029
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.880
therapy that they've been pushed pushing on people.
1030
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.840
It's the geneticis people aren't getting it? Yes, is your aunt?
1031
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.280
My answer is that, but it's in a different level.
1032
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:14.719
They know they told us the RNA rearranges our DNA. Folks,
1033
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.239
this is geneticis this is not of this earth. This
1034
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.840
is what I'm talking about, and it's happening on a
1035
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:28.960
global scale, folks. This is an invasion of a level
1036
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.239
that most people can't comprehend, and we're living at Chris.
1037
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:35.039
It's pretty incredible. Man.
1038
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:35.480
You know.
1039
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:38.639
I have so many different people that I talk to
1040
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.760
every day with different thoughts on what's happening in our future,
1041
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.679
and I resonate with so many of them, and there's
1042
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:46.599
so much to discern right now. But one thing I
1043
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.960
do see is the food shortages. One thing I do
1044
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:52.480
see is the troubles that we're in, the division that
1045
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.039
we're seeing, And You're right, where are the people? Where
1046
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:56.800
are the people in the jobs? There's so much to
1047
01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:59.039
look at right now that makes you scratch your head
1048
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.920
and say, man, we're in some very special times. Indeed,
1049
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:07.119
to say the least, well, Wayne, this was fantastic. An
1050
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:10.639
any words for the people, maybe for any kind of
1051
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.440
preparation that they can make, or you know, I know
1052
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.000
there's a lot of us awakening right now and wondering
1053
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.239
what the hell is going on, not only with the
1054
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:23.800
physical reality here, but with their spiritual and the outside
1055
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.000
world and the metaphysical. So any advice you want to
1056
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.039
give people doing gives.
1057
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.519
So my gift to all of you is look at
1058
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.960
the word gift, and the word gift means go inside
1059
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:44.159
for truth. The only truth that matters to you, your family,
1060
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.880
your loved ones, but in the end, just you, because
1061
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.599
you're not going to be married. On the other side
1062
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:53.400
is the truth that's in here. And if you don't
1063
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.320
trust what's in here, then you're very likely to be
1064
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:03.559
deceived out here all this other stuff, this has been written,
1065
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:06.440
but it's going to be all right. I'm just telling
1066
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.960
you there's nothing to fear here. Death is just a
1067
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.880
momentary orgasm. But the point thing I'm trying to say
1068
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:20.479
it's don't feed upon yourself and those you love don't.
1069
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:25.399
Very well said, thank you, sir, this was fantastic you.
1070
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.960
We definitely have to do this more often, especially especially
1071
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.079
before it all comes down to a tumbling Yes.
1072
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.239
Yes, you know, if you see what happened up in
1073
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.000
Canada on Thursday and Friday, Yeah, yeah, I'm going okay,
1074
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.520
so you're right, let's let's make the use of the time.
1075
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:46.159
Had me a little sweaty there for a few minutes.
1076
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.359
I'm like, oh man, good, yeah, all right.
1077
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:53.560
Thank you, Chris. It's delight You're just a joy and
1078
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:55.079
just a gift to humanity.
1079
01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.279
Oh, thank you so much the checks and the bill
1080
01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.880
for that statement. We'll definitely do this against dud And
1081
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:03.680
until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk
1082
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.479
again tomorrow. See how then today, I want to welcome
1083
01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:11.920
Kathy O'Brien. She is a nationally and internationally recognized US
1084
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.880
government whistleblower on the subject of MK ultra mind control
1085
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:19.079
and healing from it in nineteen ninety five, when the
1086
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:23.359
US National Security Act was invoked on her testimony for
1087
01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:28.960
US Congressional Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence Oversight. That testimony
1088
01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:32.920
was released through her book Transformation of America, written with
1089
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:38.279
Mark Phillips. The documentary movie Trance, the Kathy O'Brien Story
1090
01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:42.399
of mind control, human slavery, and Healing the Nation was
1091
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.960
released this year and provides comprehensive insight into how mind
1092
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.600
control affects us all and how we can reclaim freedom
1093
01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:54.479
just as Kathy did. Kathy, welcome, How you doing.
1094
01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.119
Wonderful? Thank you for this opportunity to bring truth to light.
1095
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.720
Yeah, your testimony is I believe, one of the most
1096
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:06.239
important accounts in history when it comes to these black
1097
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.399
projects like mk Ultra. Now we're going to be discussing
1098
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.239
not only your experiences, but your documentary and book Trance,
1099
01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.560
as well as your insights regarding solutions on how to
1100
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.239
eliminate these dark Clendeskine operations. But today I want to
1101
01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.159
start from the beginning. This is your first time on
1102
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.159
because it's so important for the audience to understand the
1103
01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:31.319
aspects of this. There's been an unfortunate kind of wo
1104
01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.840
woo stigma surrounding MK Ultra at times, so and this
1105
01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.640
is such a very real thing, so it's very important.
1106
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.000
Let's start at the beginning. How did this all start
1107
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:41.319
for you?
1108
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.079
Yes, I'm glad you said that about the wou woo part,
1109
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:49.119
because knowledge is our defense against mind control, so it's
1110
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.000
very It's been important from the very beginning to suppress
1111
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:58.239
the knowledge and of course put misinformation out about it
1112
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:02.720
like that it's aboutd when in fact it's about MK
1113
01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:09.800
Ultra mind control that came over with Project paper Clip,
1114
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.600
with the importation of Nazi and Faciast scientists into the US.
1115
01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.359
So by the time I was born in nineteen fifty
1116
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.199
seven in Muskegon, Michigan, and had already been determined through
1117
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.920
the Hitler Himmler research that was brought over the CIA
1118
01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.800
was trying to make a more powerful form of mind control.
1119
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:34.079
Was already determined that pedophilia is the ultimate trauma base
1120
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.800
for mind control. It's because of the way our brains
1121
01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:41.720
respond to trauma and sexual abuse of a child, especially
1122
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.000
prior to age five, all their brain is still. For me,
1123
01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.479
is one of the most horrific traumatic things that can
1124
01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:52.119
possibly happen to the human brain, and it's my father
1125
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:55.199
was sexually abusing me from infancy. So it's not like
1126
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.880
I could think to judge what he was doing was wrong,
1127
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.439
you know. I mean, there wasn't anycity for that. But
1128
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:05.399
my brain knew that I was experiencing the pain and
1129
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:10.479
suffocation of his abuse. So it actually physically shut down
1130
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:15.399
neuron pathways in my brain to compartmentalize memory of that event.
1131
01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.079
That's also known as repress memory. But it's just the
1132
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:22.560
way our brains respond, and it actually physically shuts down
1133
01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.159
those neuron pathways so the rest of the mind can
1134
01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:30.439
function normally. This is a defense mechanism that you know,
1135
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:34.159
we have been graced with this amazing ability of our brains.
1136
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:38.640
We just need to understand it because the pedaphilogyend to
1137
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:43.800
being pushed on our children has a very deliberate mind
1138
01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:48.640
control purpose. So the fact that I was in a
1139
01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.079
multi generational incest based family is what made me a
1140
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:58.680
target for MK Ultra mind control and my father's sexual
1141
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:03.239
abuse of me send it into child pornography, and he
1142
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.840
also was trafficking me at a very very early age
1143
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:10.880
to my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge. And the Blue Masonic
1144
01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.319
Lodge is where a lot of politicians were hanging out
1145
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:18.680
and you know, police officers or whatever. So when my
1146
01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.960
father was caught sending child pornography of me through the
1147
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:27.239
US Males, this was in the very early nineteen sixties,
1148
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.560
he was granted immunity for prosecution if he would agree
1149
01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.319
to sell me into the CIA's MK Ultra mind control
1150
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.439
project that literally picked up where Adolf Hitler left off.
1151
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.119
You know, my father thought it was a great idea
1152
01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:48.439
and sold me in. Well, the politician that approached my
1153
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:55.079
father with that immunity option was a local politician by
1154
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:58.800
the name of Gerald Ford, and Gerald Ford went on
1155
01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.000
to become the only lie acted President of the United States.
1156
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:09.000
He investigated the so called investigated the Kennedy assassination which
1157
01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:12.800
was just to cover up through the Warrant Commission, because
1158
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:16.560
that was an event that traumatized the nation. And again,
1159
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:21.319
trauma is the basis of mind control. And as Ford's
1160
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:26.039
political career escalated, so tooted my victimization and KA ultra
1161
01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:26.720
mind control.
1162
01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:32.399
Well, now, when were you able to and how were
1163
01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:34.079
you able to break free from all of this?
1164
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:39.680
I was in MK ultra mind control used on a
1165
01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:44.640
White House Pentagon level during the Reagan Bush administration. I
1166
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.399
was trafficked in the human trafficking ops, which is a
1167
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:52.600
funding mechanism of the global reset going on right now
1168
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.800
what Adolf Hitler, George Bush, and Joe Biden termed the
1169
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:01.520
New World Order, because ultimately that's what it's about. It's
1170
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.560
the New World Order agenda that came over with Project
1171
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.720
paper Clip and has been infiltrated in the United States
1172
01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:12.319
for a long, long long time. So I was used
1173
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:15.920
in those particular operations right up until nineteen eighty eight
1174
01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:21.880
when intelligence insider Mark Phillips, who is working the highest
1175
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.399
levels of intelligence mind sciences, he was over the CIA.
1176
01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:28.119
He could wear whatever hat he needed to to be
1177
01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:33.079
where he wanted for whatever purpose that he was carrying out.
1178
01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:37.840
But Ultimately, he worked mind sciences, and he was appalled
1179
01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:42.479
to see that MK ultra mind control was being used
1180
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:47.399
on individuals like myself who were targeted for it, and
1181
01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:52.079
on the population as a whole, for the takeover of
1182
01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:56.680
the United States, for the erosion or constitution, and the
1183
01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:02.600
selling us out into the globalist slave society agenda. He
1184
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.239
was so outraged he decided to do something about it.
1185
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.520
He rescued my daughter and me right out of the Washington,
1186
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DC human trafficking swamp that was back in nineteen eighty eight,
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and he handed me the keys to my mind because
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01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.399
while he was working mind sciences, he was disturbed to
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01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:26.159
see that pertinent information on mind brain function was being
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01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:30.720
suppressed from society, from mental health, and from education completely.
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01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:35.479
It was being suppressed because knowledge is our defense against
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01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:37.560
mind control, and that they didn't want us to have
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01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:40.079
the knowledge of our mind brain function because when we
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01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:45.640
have that information, we can protect ourselves against the onslaught
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01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:51.560
of subconscious manipulation in the wake of trauma. So Mark
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01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:55.279
wanted to get that information out to the population. He
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01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.119
knew that they were going to be waking up to
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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.319
the reality of this new world order society agenda and
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He wanted to empower people with the sanctity of free thought.
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01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.800
Everything that Mark'd worked for and dedicated his life to
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01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.520
was free thought and how important it is, and I
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01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.399
know from my own life's experience how crucial it is,
1203
01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.279
because without free thought, there's no free will, and with
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01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:23.159
no free will, there's no soul expression. There's no ability
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01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.439
to stand for the things that we believe in. There's
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01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.279
no strength of the human spirit, which is an infinite
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01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:32.159
source of strength that empowers us to be able to
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01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:35.760
take a stand to stop the pedophilogy under being pushed
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01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:39.640
on our children, to stop this takeover of our nation
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01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.319
and the erosion of our justice system. These are things
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01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:51.600
that are sacred, and yet all this was being deliberately eroded,
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01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:56.279
and people's minds were being manipulated so that they couldn't
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01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:59.800
think to take a stand against it either. That's what
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01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:04.279
mind control agenda is about, and that's what is being
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01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:08.640
imposed on society today. That's what Mark Phillips dedicated his
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01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:13.399
life to stopping. And he made a huge, powerful impact,
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01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.399
a real hero to all to us all.
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01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:19.159
Yes, and I do I want to get into the
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01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:23.479
mass scale of the mind control how it works on
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01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.600
all of us But as far as individuals individual targeting,
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01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.680
would you say that they either it's either multi generational
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01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:35.279
where they keep it, you know, within certain families, or
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01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:38.239
they target people with like you said, mental illnesses.
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01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:44.399
Well, in my case, they knew that because I was
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01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:51.079
multi generational in saspace, that I would already be suffering
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01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:56.800
from a dissociative identity disorder. This dissociative disorder is where
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01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.880
the conscious mind takes flight and leaves the subconscious wide
1228
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.359
open to being easily led. Our subconscious mind doesn't work
1229
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:10.000
like our conscious mind. It has no ability to reason, question, critically,
1230
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:15.920
analyze information, choose what it allows to force to respond to,
1231
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.920
none of that. It just takes information in on a
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01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.239
very literal basis. And that's what we need to become
1233
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:28.399
aware of, is that the vulnerability of our subconscious mind,
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01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:32.880
and after three generations, that vulnerability becomes autogenic. That's what
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01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:36.399
the Hitler Himmler research had found out. That's what was
1236
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:41.359
brought over with Project paper Clip, and by nineteen forty
1237
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.520
seven when the CIA was formed in the National Security
1238
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.920
Act and in place to cover up this globalist agenda
1239
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:52.359
and the crimes against humanity that will be intraded by
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01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:59.319
them for the purposes of trauma based mind control. Then
1241
01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:02.600
the this form of mind control was already well known
1242
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:08.720
and was being accentuated and used even stronger on the population.
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01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.760
But also, you know, we had technology coming in at
1244
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.199
the time, and we had television and everything else that
1245
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:17.920
was really having an impact. We had Disney, you know,
1246
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.319
to already start putting this subliminal message into push the
1247
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.520
pedophile agenda, you know, so it was becoming a much
1248
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.319
more powerful form of mind control. But I was targeted
1249
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:32.760
because I was multi generational. When we realized that if
1250
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.840
they can target three generations like they have through our
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01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:41.000
education system, when the federal government started meddling in the
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01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:45.640
school system and made states reliant on federal funding, they
1253
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:51.720
also pushed the agenda and they altered history, they rewrote it.
1254
01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:57.680
Because mind control is a sliding scale from robotic mind control,
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01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:02.159
like I experienced information control. Because think about it, we
1256
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.199
all formulate our thoughts, opinions, and actions based on what
1257
01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.800
we know, and we didn't know that knowledge base has
1258
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:14.760
been deliberately altered for the purposes of ushering in this
1259
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.359
new world order. And since the schools became dependent on
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01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:22.039
the federal government back in nineteen eighty four. We've got
1261
01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:26.159
generations now that are marching to new world orders, as
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01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:32.279
per the knowledge base from within the school system. So yes,
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01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:37.640
the generations are important for targeting the people for mind
1264
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:42.199
control and for conditioning the brain to be more compliant
1265
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:52.119
and receptive. And it's also something that these perpetrators use
1266
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.039
in their own bloodlines to make sure that they pass
1267
01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:56.279
on the.
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01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:02.760
Psychopathy the controls of this new world order. Yeah, yeah,
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01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:06.479
that yeah. Now what about mental illness? Do you do
1270
01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:09.800
you think that they outside of multi generational aspects? Do
1271
01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.399
you think they just in certain ways to target people
1272
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:13.520
with mental illnesses.
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01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.800
Well, it depends on if the if the illness is
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01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:22.880
conducive to mind controlled. Dissociative disorders are what is most
1275
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.640
conducive to mind control, and then we need to consider
1276
01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.960
the pharmaceuticals that have been pushed on our children and
1277
01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:34.560
everything else to render them more compliant and easily led to.
1278
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.760
That's another aspect of mind control. So it's not as
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01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.119
much a mental illness at that time. We hear about
1280
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.640
people who are bipolar or schizophrenic, and we need to
1281
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.560
look a little further into some of those diagnoses, because
1282
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.039
there is no diagnosis of mkulter mind control, you know
1283
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:57.119
what I mean. So when we look at those, we
1284
01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:01.239
see that they're often mislabeled in it a misnomer and
1285
01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:07.079
oftentimes a diversion away from the reality of MK ultra
1286
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:07.840
mind control.
1287
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:09.119
So, you know, like.
1288
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:16.359
A presidential model MK ultra mind control slave in Canada
1289
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.520
who was the wife of Pierre Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau was
1290
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:27.000
one of the most powerful and influential MK ultra mind
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01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:32.039
control masters that has ever been and he uses a
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01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.800
pedophile agenda. I know that because he sexually abused me.
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01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.479
That was validated with national security on it in my
1294
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:43.960
testimony Transformation of America. So you know, Pierre Trudeau was
1295
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:51.520
heavily involved, and his wife, Margaret Trudeau, was supposedly labeled
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01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:55.079
bipolar or whatever, when in fact Gerald Ford made it
1297
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:57.760
very clear that she was an MK ultra mind control
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01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:01.800
sex slave, just like I was, working on a presidential level,
1299
01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.800
which raises questions. Okay, who is Justin's father? Is his
1300
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.239
father Castro like some people think because she did, no
1301
01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:15.840
Castro could be. The fact is Pierre Trudeau raised him,
1302
01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:26.000
That pedophile, controlling, horrible perpetrator raised Justin Trudeau. So we're
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01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:31.319
seeing the generational thing happening here. And also how the
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01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.079
women in positions like Maggie she couldn't do anything to
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01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.000
protect that situation. Raises a question to me, Okay, did
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01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:48.520
Pierre pass on his propensity for mind control to Justin
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01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:53.920
or is he mka ultrade like his mother? Which one
1308
01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.000
is he? You know, we need to know that we
1309
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.960
need to start factoring mk ultra mind control into the
1310
01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:03.760
equation on politics because it is very heavily used creating
1311
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:09.319
Manchurian candidates and or people who are conditioned from birth
1312
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.920
to be compliant and lead into the new world order.
1313
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.039
So again we got the multi generational aspect. We need
1314
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.079
to know about the importance of our own genetics.
1315
01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:23.520
Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about the history.
1316
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.600
You're talking about how this kind of originated from the
1317
01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:30.359
Nazi scientists we brought over from paper clip, What were
1318
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:34.279
some of the original blueprints for mind control that they
1319
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:34.760
were using.
1320
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.680
Well, in my case, since since I was sexually abused
1321
01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.000
at such an early age, I'm most familiar with that aspect,
1322
01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:48.640
and I was used as a sex like because sexual
1323
01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:53.000
abuse of a child confuses their sexuality, and that's what
1324
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.600
gender confusion really is. It's just a misnomer for the
1325
01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.640
effects of pedophilia on the human in mind. But this
1326
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:06.039
I also had a heightened sexuality, so that's why I
1327
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:11.560
was used in a sexual way to different government leaders
1328
01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:16.119
that would put them in compromising positions for black mail.
1329
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:20.359
The pedophile agenda is a black mail agenda as well,
1330
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:24.760
because it is used to compromise certain politicians and judges
1331
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:29.119
and then hold them, you know, by that blackmail perversion.
1332
01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:33.319
So that is another aspect of it. And in MK
1333
01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:38.319
ultra Mind Control Project Monarch, which is the multi generational one,
1334
01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:42.520
another one that I was familiar with. It was being
1335
01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:46.560
raised in the project at the exact same time I was.
1336
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:51.039
Just two hours down the road was Michael Jackson. And
1337
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.319
you can see how Michael Jackson wasn't used as a
1338
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:55.720
sex slave. And now all of a sudden, we're looking
1339
01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:58.680
at males, because males are targeted just as much as
1340
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:03.239
females and they're used sexually or or in whatever capacity.
1341
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:06.279
And in the case of Michael Jackson, he was used
1342
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:10.079
for his talent because he was amazing talent. What what
1343
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:14.680
a gift to us all his talent was. But nevertheless
1344
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:19.199
they twisted it and used MK Ultra mind control programming
1345
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:23.760
on him to make him kind of a cash cow,
1346
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:28.039
so that the money that he generated wasn't really something
1347
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:31.960
that he had so much control over, as fueled the
1348
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:37.720
New World Order agenda that was using him. So now,
1349
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:39.439
how it's important one to see.
1350
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:41.880
Yeah, I was about to say, how prevalent is this
1351
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:46.920
in Hollywood in celebrity circles, that they've been mind controlled
1352
01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:49.680
their whole lives to be this certain type of cash
1353
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:50.279
cow star.
1354
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.359
Right, Yeah, it's very very prevalent. We heard a lot
1355
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.319
of people talking about it. Now there's so many MK
1356
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:01.600
ultra mind control survivors coming out that the media is
1357
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.720
freaking out. You know, that's the voice of the New
1358
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:08.319
World Order that's there. That's how they amplify their voice.
1359
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:11.199
That's like they're hiding behind the Wizard's curtain, pulling the
1360
01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:14.279
media levers to make it look like they're bigger and
1361
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:17.199
more powerful than they are. But you know, so the
1362
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:22.199
media is saying, oh, it was all just LSD and
1363
01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.560
these are just LSD hallucinations that people are talking about.
1364
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:26.439
That is so not true.
1365
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.680
LSD was never used in mk ultra mind control because
1366
01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:33.119
it didn't work for mkulter mind control. So you know,
1367
01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:37.560
that that was done. But look at all the stars
1368
01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:41.640
who are talking about it. It's so many that even
1369
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:45.960
the controlled media can't dilute and suppress this information any further.
1370
01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:48.960
And when we combine it with what's happening with Disney,
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01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:52.159
and look at anybody who was raised in Disney, like
1372
01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:55.680
the Britney spears of our world, you know, and we
1373
01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.439
look at that and see all the MK ultra pries
1374
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:05.079
and please for help that are affiliated with that. Disney
1375
01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:09.760
is heavily involved in MK ultra mind control, a pedophile
1376
01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:14.079
agenda end of it. They also, i know from my
1377
01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:19.159
own personal experience that's validated again national security on it.
1378
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.479
National security protecting Disney's pedophile mind control agenda.
1379
01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:25.600
What the heck?
1380
01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:28.560
You know, that's just ridiculous. But they have an underground
1381
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:32.800
at Disney World. This underworld at Disney World is a programming,
1382
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:37.359
a mind control programming up a center. And another faction
1383
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.880
of our brains is at around age thirty, we have
1384
01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:45.520
these electrochemical changes that naturally start opening those neuron pathways,
1385
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:48.359
are allowing them to leak a little bit. It's when
1386
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.640
repress memory starts to surface. And some people and those
1387
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.279
who are MK ultra that's when they shave their head.
1388
01:29:55.880 --> 01:30:01.159
That's when they get institutionalized. That's when they are caught
1389
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:04.600
up in different things and then flown to Disney World.
1390
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.800
Why are they flown to Disney World because there's a
1391
01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:13.479
reprogramming epicenter under Disney World. We have military bases there
1392
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.439
because MK Ultra is used on and by the US military,
1393
01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.880
So we have military bases in Disney. Think about that,
1394
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:21.880
you know, I mean, this is absurd. We need to
1395
01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.000
just be following the money. You can see, like even
1396
01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:31.960
our mainstream LAK, ABC and Disney are one and so
1397
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.920
we're getting bombarded and with a lot of cover up
1398
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:39.159
and a lot of misinformation, a lot of pedophilia promotion.
1399
01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.039
That is all, you know, going back to Disney. But
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01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:49.840
my point in bringing that up not yeah, but ultimately
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01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.239
watches being sent to Disney, you know who's being reprogrammed there.
1402
01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:57.079
We saw it happen, you know, and the ones who
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01:30:57.439 --> 01:30:59.159
have come out of Disney. We need to take a
1404
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.920
hard look at those people and see, you know, if
1405
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:04.399
they're needing help, but if they're pleading for help.
1406
01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:06.279
Well, I mean, you know they should. They do show
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01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:08.560
us predictive programming all the time. They show us like
1408
01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.479
pornographic images and the cartoons and things that are trying
1409
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:15.399
to lead kids to be more sexualized. And this has
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01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:18.520
been going on for years in Disney, so it's like
1411
01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.119
they have to kind of show us these little hints
1412
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:23.760
on what they're doing. And I know that part of it,
1413
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:27.279
part of even mass mind control, is just Hollywood. It's
1414
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:29.760
the movies, It's the media that we've been watching. It's
1415
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:32.840
just it's brainwashing everybody on a mass gale.
1416
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:37.239
It is it is. And then the music too. You know,
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01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:40.800
we need to pay attention to harmonics, and now harmonics
1418
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:44.800
vibrate the neuron pathways of our brain to allow information in,
1419
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.640
so you know, we need to choose our lyrics very
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01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:53.439
carefully instead of having this violent sexualization and pedophilic promotion
1421
01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:57.439
coming through music too. I think a really good example
1422
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:03.760
on how the harmonic affect our neural pathways is when
1423
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:05.800
people hear a song that they fell in love to,
1424
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.159
you know, and they're like they'll have a squish moment
1425
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:10.920
together like oh remember and we fell in love and
1426
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:14.359
they have this this this this moment reactivated because of
1427
01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:18.479
the song here in that hearing their favorite song. But
1428
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:22.239
that's how our neuron pathways, you know, open and close
1429
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:29.000
and keep this this particular kind of information. And because
1430
01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:31.560
of that, we need to be mindful of what we
1431
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:35.880
allow into our brains because it's it comes through TV too,
1432
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:41.279
it comes through video games especially, which also promoting violence
1433
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.479
and pedophilia and is a form of mind control. It
1434
01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:48.600
comes through computerization. We need to just pay attention to
1435
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.920
what we allow to go into our brilliant minds. Our
1436
01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:57.880
our free thought is sacred and we need to start
1437
01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:59.399
preserving the sanctity of it.
1438
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:04.800
Now, you were going over some of the applications for
1439
01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:08.079
for mind control when it comes to what they're having
1440
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:11.920
people do in their lives, how they're controlling them. You
1441
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:15.920
mentioned the monarch and then the aspects of sexual control.
1442
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.399
What else for an individual basis are we looking at
1443
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.399
that they're that they're using mind control for what's the
1444
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:24.399
desired agendas and outcomes?
1445
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:29.920
Well, I think that that brings to mind another basis
1446
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:34.560
of mind control. When my father sold me into the project,
1447
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:38.399
he was immediately flown to Boston, Massachusetts, where he was
1448
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.079
trained by Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church. That's the
1449
01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:44.720
same Cardinal Law that was the head of the Catholic
1450
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:48.159
Child Abuse scandal that was finally exposed a few years
1451
01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.800
back because of their sanctioning of pedophilia within the church.
1452
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:55.039
It's because they wanted to be the one world church
1453
01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:58.840
in the New World Order, and they were allowing for
1454
01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:03.840
the promotion of pedophilia. But as soon as my father returned,
1455
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.640
he had learned how to use the language of the
1456
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:11.720
subconscious NLP neural linguistic programming, which is something we all
1457
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:16.000
need to armor ourselves with. That's pertinent information because it
1458
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:20.760
manipulates our subconscious mind. And my father had a sixth
1459
01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:23.680
grade education and he learned it in two weeks in Boston,
1460
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.760
you know, so it's not that complicated once we understand
1461
01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:33.039
the basis of it. My father also started subjecting me
1462
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:37.279
to occult ritual. Catholic Church was heavily involved in MK
1463
01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:41.880
ultra mind control and occult ritual that was like the
1464
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:45.239
Satanism was like a reversal of the Catholic Mass, and
1465
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:52.439
that horrible blood trauma is so horrifically traumatic that it
1466
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:57.920
leaves people wide open to being easily led through neural
1467
01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.359
linguistic programming. We're seeing a lot of Satanism being sanctioned
1468
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:08.239
and a lot of Satanic images and attitudes being promoted,
1469
01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:14.760
which definitely includes the pedaphileogy under the two merge very close.
1470
01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:18.439
This is a very important aspect that you're bringing up
1471
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:22.680
because very important researchers are looking into some of this stuff.
1472
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:26.239
They hit the occult or satan worship or rituals and
1473
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.399
they stop and they're like, nah, this can't be and
1474
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.640
they just turn around. But this is one of the
1475
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:34.640
most important aspects. This is like a gateway to the
1476
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:39.000
real reality of what these sick people are into, and
1477
01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:42.600
that is a dabbling in the occult and ritual magic.
1478
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:46.119
And you know, this has been multi generational for them too.
1479
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.039
And people don't like to look at the aspects that
1480
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.039
this is involved, and this is kind of where it
1481
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:54.479
throws the woo woo out. This is where people stop looking.
1482
01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.199
But this is one of the most important parts because
1483
01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:01.920
even if you don't believe in Satanism or these occult rituals,
1484
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.640
they certainly do and they are definitely participating right.
1485
01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:12.279
Definitely, my primary mind control programmer was Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino,
1486
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.520
the founder of the Occult Temple as set proliferating on
1487
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:20.680
our military basis and when Mark Phillips was studying mind
1488
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:24.680
Sciences in the Psychological Warfare Division of the War College.
1489
01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.800
Michael Aquino was there studying too on how to use
1490
01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:34.600
Satanism to control the human mind. And it was my experience,
1491
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:38.600
my experience having been around a Quino, that he didn't
1492
01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:43.119
believe in the power of satan per se. He believed
1493
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.840
in himself more to be able to manipulate people with
1494
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:52.439
blood trauma and murder and horrific you know, occultism. If
1495
01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:54.960
he could convince them that it was beyond their realm
1496
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.920
to effect that it was you know, a theracal then
1497
01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:02.760
then that would just make people, you know, completely submissive.
1498
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:07.800
And so that's why occultism is used that way. It's
1499
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.880
they actually can't touch the human spirit, they can't possess
1500
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.680
the human spirit because we have a safeguard mechanism there.
1501
01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:20.239
It's like when I was being tortured so horrifically by
1502
01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:23.600
people like Aquino, my spirit is always in a safe,
1503
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:26.119
loving space, you know. We hear how when people are
1504
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.239
like in an accident and see everything from above and
1505
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:33.279
there's like a light that connects them, you know, down
1506
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:37.079
below or whatever, and they're overseeing or whatever is That
1507
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.680
was my experience in MK ultra mind control. My spirit
1508
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.000
was always in a safe, loving space. So they can't
1509
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.439
possess the spirit, but they fear the human spirit because
1510
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.159
it's our strength. It's where we win, it's where they lose.
1511
01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:53.439
It's the most powerful force in the universe. It's what
1512
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.039
allows us to stand up against them.
1513
01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:56.359
You know.
1514
01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:02.159
It's so it's such an amazing force that they wish
1515
01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:05.560
they could possess it, but they can't because that would
1516
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:09.119
be like darkness creeping in on light. It doesn't work
1517
01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.359
that way. It's just not the scientific formula. So whether
1518
01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.560
they believe in it or whether they don't believe in it,
1519
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:17.840
the fact that I know from having been around these
1520
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:23.600
perpetrators in the swamp in Washington, d C. They are
1521
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.239
very low vibration. They're very dark. They're evil energy force
1522
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:36.359
that feeds off of negativity. They want to create division
1523
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.680
in society. They want to create hatred. They feed off that.
1524
01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:42.479
They feed off the fear, They feed off the hate.
1525
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.760
That's what they want to generate. That is their vibration.
1526
01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:49.239
That's what they want, you know. So when I started
1527
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:51.680
speaking out, when I regained my free thought in my
1528
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:56.439
free speech and was able to start exposing these perpetrators.
1529
01:38:57.279 --> 01:39:01.159
It wasn't vengeance or hatred for them that did it.
1530
01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:04.239
That compelled me. It was love for my own daughter.
1531
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.720
It was love for humanity. It was concerned about the
1532
01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:10.239
plan that they had for humanity.
1533
01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:11.279
So it was love.
1534
01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.439
So I've always lived the love. I am always shine love.
1535
01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:17.159
I live my strength of spirit, and I don't give
1536
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:20.720
them anymore of my fear. They don't get any more hate.
1537
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:22.720
They don't get any of that from me. They stole
1538
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.239
enough of that long. I am not giving them anymore,
1539
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:32.119
and I win, you know. So they only try to
1540
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.600
appear more powerful than they are. But the fact is
1541
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.680
they only have as much power as we give them,
1542
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:45.199
you know it. Stop giving them fear, Stop caving into hate,
1543
01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:48.760
you know, stop letting them divide us, and rise above
1544
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:52.039
all that and start living our life's purpose. We're all
1545
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.479
here at this pivotal moment in time for a reason.
1546
01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:59.279
You know this is this is an evolutionary time for humanity,
1547
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:01.680
and we all have a purpose for being here, and
1548
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:05.600
we need to live that purpose free above the storm,
1549
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:09.479
you know, away from the field, from their constant barrage.
1550
01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:12.000
We have been able to rise above it with a
1551
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.960
great awakening to such a degree that they're like freaking out,
1552
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.800
they're going all in, but they're being pretty wicked and
1553
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:19.239
mean and violent.
1554
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:23.159
Yeah, and then we're definitely I want to talk more
1555
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:26.319
about this awakening and the grand plan that they're attempting
1556
01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.720
to do. I want to talk about that a little later,
1557
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:31.079
but first I want to you You touched on this
1558
01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:36.119
a little bit some of the aspects of mind control, uh,
1559
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:41.079
mind fracturing and creating of different personalities or what's called alters.
1560
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:44.600
Maybe you could talk a little bit about that and
1561
01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:48.560
how fractured can a person's mind be and how many
1562
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:52.359
you know, kind of alternate personalities can be created.
1563
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:58.720
That that's an excellent question and ptist tiny heel, which
1564
01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:02.439
has posted on my website, give some insight into the
1565
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.000
different aspects of my brain function like that in my
1566
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:11.479
particular case, I was subjected to systematic ritualized trauma, the
1567
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:17.199
systematic scientific formula that they have for creating like a
1568
01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:21.520
food deprivation to starve the brain, because our brains starve first,
1569
01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:26.039
you know which, when we look at how okay, the
1570
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.479
first thing they did when the schools said no, you're
1571
01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:30.840
not going to be doing this pedophilogy and in the schools.
1572
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:33.760
The federal government stepped in and said, okay, we're taking
1573
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:38.479
away the Kids Left program. That's because they their brains
1574
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:43.079
starve first if they're hungry, So they use that kind
1575
01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:49.560
of formula, and a very deliberate, torturous formula to create
1576
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:52.920
more and more and more compartments in the brain which
1577
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:58.720
can then be programmed through NLP neurolinguistic programming or the
1578
01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:02.640
language of the subcon When my father had sexually abused
1579
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:05.479
me as an infant, the part of my brain that
1580
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:10.880
sectioned off every time my father would come to sexually
1581
01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:13.079
abuse me again, that part of my brain would open
1582
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:15.359
back up to deal with his abuse again and again.
1583
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:20.119
Is needed. And in a child who's just subjected to
1584
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:25.800
various traumas, they do develop what appears to be personalities,
1585
01:42:26.039 --> 01:42:31.000
and it's not multiple personalities. It's one personality that shattered
1586
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:36.079
into these different compartments and these different projections because that
1587
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:42.279
projection obviously was very sexual, because that's all that compartment knew. Well,
1588
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:46.800
when the government put in the systematic mk ultra programming,
1589
01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:50.399
like what Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino was doing is taking
1590
01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:54.159
the trigger of that compartment. You know, the trigger used
1591
01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:56.720
to be my father's sexual abuse, and they would put
1592
01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:00.279
a verbal trigger in there instead, so that could be
1593
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.279
activated with a hand signal, it could be activated with
1594
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.239
a harmonic tone, it could be activated with a word.
1595
01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:13.920
And that kind of activation is something that is being
1596
01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:19.680
used to activate a lot of programmed sleepers or shooters,
1597
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:23.279
you know, for when they're wanting to traumatize the nation
1598
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:28.399
with another school shooting or whatever. Then they're activated, the
1599
01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:31.119
people are traumatized, they show it over and over and
1600
01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:36.319
over on TV, and the then the subconscious mind is manipulated.
1601
01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:38.399
And of course right now it's give up your guns,
1602
01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:38.920
give up your.
1603
01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:44.439
Why are interesting, No, you're right, it's definitely. One of
1604
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:47.720
the aspects I want to talk about is assassins and
1605
01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:51.880
a lot of the staged events that we've seen in
1606
01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:55.039
the past decade to disarm us.
1607
01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.520
Just like you were saying, right, yes, it's been it's
1608
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:01.880
coming out us from a lot of different directions. And
1609
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:07.000
the gun ones like that are i think the most
1610
01:44:07.239 --> 01:44:12.560
obvious and the most prolific and the strongest used. And
1611
01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:18.520
yet there's also been a very slow erosion of a
1612
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.520
social engineering and the erosion of masculinity, and this gender
1613
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:28.239
confusion is another aspect of that and apprition of transgendering
1614
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:32.680
of effeminate men and men and women's sports and all like.
1615
01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:36.560
This is to try to make the men more compliant
1616
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:40.239
because men have that, you know, that manliness that's going
1617
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:42.800
to stand up a little bit stronger. But they've been
1618
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:51.119
conditioned through the modification of hormones in our foods. We
1619
01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:54.520
got to take back our foods from the pharmaceutical companies
1620
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.079
and get them out of our lives. We don't need that.
1621
01:44:57.399 --> 01:45:00.399
We have amazing capabilities in our own bodies. Don't need
1622
01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:04.520
them meddling with our food en handsing it and creating
1623
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:08.880
all these artificial foods to eat. And you know, we
1624
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:15.760
we need to know that men have been affected strongest
1625
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.840
because they need to get men to stand down and
1626
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:22.279
then turn over their guns. So there's coming at them
1627
01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:25.760
from different ways. Of course, the so called feminist movement
1628
01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.960
and everything else, which is just you know, an excuse.
1629
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:31.520
I mean, I don't I'm going to get in trouble
1630
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:33.239
with a lot of people if I just keep going
1631
01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:34.119
in a certain year.
1632
01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.960
But this is all true. We need to hear it.
1633
01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:41.319
Well, it's it's it's being socially engineered from a lot
1634
01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:43.119
of shoes, and we need to be aware of that
1635
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:49.520
and start supporting the genetics that we're born with and
1636
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:55.560
the masculinity. You know, it's not toxic, it's it's something
1637
01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:59.479
that that's just needed in society. We need this balance.
1638
01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.560
We need it, We need it around us in so
1639
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:04.840
many ways. But most of all, we need to hang
1640
01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:07.199
onto our guns. They want to take them away really bad.
1641
01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:10.079
And wherever people don't have guns is where the most
1642
01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.359
violence is. Look at the cities that have gun control laws.
1643
01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:17.479
That's where the violence in the US is. It's the Chicagos,
1644
01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.479
you know. We need to pay attention to that and
1645
01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:23.560
realize that they have no purpose in taking away our
1646
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:27.039
guns other than to make us more helpless and submissive
1647
01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:30.600
to what they have planned for us. Because what they
1648
01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:34.319
have planned for us is horrific. We are just seeing
1649
01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:36.680
in the beginning of it. They are they have no
1650
01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:40.279
limits to the amount of trauma and pain that they
1651
01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:44.000
would inflict and generate, because again, that is their energy,
1652
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:47.319
that is their vibration, is what they need in order
1653
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:52.800
to succeed and keep us compliant. We need to stop complying.
1654
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:55.079
We just need to stop applying.
1655
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Exactly now, if there's so many aspects I want want
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to get to, but early talking about how you know,
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even at very local and you know, personal close levels,
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that this is occurring in every probably in every town,
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in every state, in every city, that even your your
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Yes, yes, they could either be compromised and blackmailed into it,
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01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:26.560
or they're put in through rigged elections. And that's something
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01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:29.279
that I think we all got a strong taste of
1679
01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:32.920
when mind control mass is a virus was unleashed on
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01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:37.680
the global population to create the trauma so that they
1681
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:41.119
could move forward with their global reset, new World order,
1682
01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:43.800
slave society where a handful of big guys make all
1683
01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.880
the money, those of us who survive do all the work.
1684
01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:51.119
That's the plan, that's what they're moving towards. So when
1685
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:54.800
that happened and they stole elections twenty twenty sublatantly and
1686
01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:59.800
then locked up anybody who said anything against it, you know,
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01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:04.039
and censored him and take him off their controlled media,
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01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:06.520
you know, I mean, it was just as ridiculous what's
1689
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:10.239
being done in that way. And yet my nineteen ninety
1690
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:15.439
five testimony Transformation of America detailed who the plant, what
1691
01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.840
the plan was of who was going to be in
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01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:20.880
the office of president. It was be kept in the
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01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:24.600
Bush Clinton dynasties until Hillary Clinton ushered in the New
1694
01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:28.520
World Order twenty sixteen didn't happen that way, you know.
1695
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.279
So it's because people are waking up that we need
1696
01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.760
to pay attention to the fact that these electronic voting
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01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:39.520
machines which came in in the wake of the Kennedy assassination,
1698
01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:42.960
you know, and like I'm saying before, that's when this
1699
01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:48.119
global agenda took a stronghold on America, traumatized the nation.
1700
01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:52.439
They came into controlled media. You know, you look at
1701
01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:55.199
and Gerald Ford was heavily involved. That's why I have
1702
01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.760
such an up close personal thing on that. And the
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01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.119
electronic voting machine came in right after that. And I
1704
01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:05.239
haven't been around these perpetrators in Washington, be I can
1705
01:50:05.319 --> 01:50:10.840
guarantee you they did worried one bit about elections because
1706
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:14.079
they are going to be placed placed in position through
1707
01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:16.600
these rigged elections because they were so willing to be
1708
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:21.720
a part of this agenda. So we need to pay
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01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:24.039
attention to that. We've got to clean up our elections.
1710
01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:27.479
We need to get back to paper ballots, monitor them.
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01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:32.159
Know that this isn't a conspiracy theory, you know, check
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01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:35.279
the machines, that the evidence is there. You know, We've
1713
01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:39.239
got all the evidence. We've got an eroded justice system
1714
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.840
that has been compromised for a long long time. We've
1715
01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.800
got an FBI gestapo willing to lock up people who
1716
01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:50.319
are standing for their children or for their freedoms, you know,
1717
01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:55.000
And we need to just realize that we share this
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01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.840
planet with some very evil people with a very dark
1719
01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:03.760
and then it's inexcusable that we allow them to meddle
1720
01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:07.760
in our minds and lives anymore. All we need to
1721
01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:10.960
do is just know the truth that makes us free.
1722
01:51:11.600 --> 01:51:14.560
Knowledge is our defense against mind control. We need to
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01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:19.439
arm ourselves with knowledge above all and have that information
1724
01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:24.880
so that we can effectively start taking back our personal
1725
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:30.079
and national sovereignty and restoring justice system and be able
1726
01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:33.439
to live the lives that we were meant to live
1727
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:38.079
and step terror nonsense that we're being imposed on us
1728
01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:38.439
right now.
1729
01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:42.359
If people can't realize the evil being perpetrated, they have
1730
01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.279
their heads so far either in the sand or weigh
1731
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:48.039
up their asses, either one that you know, they're not
1732
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:51.359
seeing the truth here. But I am very hopeful to
1733
01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:54.039
seeing the amount of people that do see and that
1734
01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:57.199
are awakening during this time. So that's where my hope
1735
01:51:57.279 --> 01:51:59.760
is coming from right now, if we can kind of
1736
01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:03.880
collective get past this. But tell us a little bit
1737
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:06.600
about what was the result of your test testimony for
1738
01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:11.640
the US Congressional permits permanent select committees on intelligence oversight.
1739
01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:17.279
Absolutely nothing national security evoked on my testimony, and the
1740
01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:20.000
whole thing was censored. The people in power at the
1741
01:52:20.079 --> 01:52:23.920
time were the very ones named in Trance. So at
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01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.479
that time Mark and I put it in book form
1743
01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:31.520
and released it to all members of Congress anyway, and
1744
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.359
the watchdog groups, you know, the ones that were supposed
1745
01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:39.720
to be watching out for our justice and everything else.
1746
01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.399
And we put it out that way, and that actually
1747
01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:46.600
helped keep us alive. We had people like US Customs,
1748
01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:49.239
the head of US Customs, William Vaughn Robb, you know,
1749
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.239
oh my gosh, what a hero to the American people
1750
01:52:52.319 --> 01:52:57.720
he was that he had validated the information and also
1751
01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:00.840
helped get it out to the order guards and all
1752
01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.199
because it's border guards are seeing so much of the
1753
01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:05.399
human ethicking and drug ops and every time they make
1754
01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:09.640
a bus, national security is invoked on it. And so
1755
01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:14.119
the information just got out there well because national security
1756
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:17.680
was invoked on it in open court, in my daughter's hase,
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01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:21.960
then then I would be able to keep speaking out
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01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.880
on anything that was validated by the clean members of
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01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:29.479
law enforcement and intelligence community, secret Service or whatever. In
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01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:33.960
transformation of America and the perpetrators named could not sue
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01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:38.439
me because of National Security Act in the way. And
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01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:41.800
at the same time, here's the kicker. It was suppressed
1763
01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:46.920
completely for media from publicage and continues to be The
1764
01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:50.199
National Security Act is being used to cover some horrific
1765
01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:53.520
times against humanity. It's just a blanket of secrecy that
1766
01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:56.199
came in with Project paper Clip. And you know, we
1767
01:53:56.319 --> 01:53:59.960
need to be aware that that when Project paper Clip
1768
01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:02.760
came in with their agenda and the CIA was formed
1769
01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:06.439
to enhance it. When the CIA was formed, so too
1770
01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:11.359
was National Security. So that was it's made it very
1771
01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:14.239
very difficult. Mark and I spoke out on a global
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01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:17.359
scale trending us information to light. It was to help
1773
01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:22.720
my daughter in her situation. The FBI was testifying it's
1774
01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:27.199
my traffic daughter, and it was absolutely horrific what was
1775
01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:30.159
being done. So we did all we could to bring
1776
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.479
information to light. And wherever we spoke, wherever in the
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01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:35.600
world we were, there was FEDS in the back of
1778
01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:38.520
the room making sure we didn't say one thing that
1779
01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:43.720
wasn't in the testimony, that we didn't assert a perception
1780
01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:49.960
that we didn't incite revolution, or we never did. We
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01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:53.239
were always proponents of evolution. You know that we need
1782
01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:56.640
to evolve with the knowledge, and you know again knowledge
1783
01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.720
is our defense against mind control, and that's the evolution
1784
01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.600
step that's needed around the world right now. We don't
1785
01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.680
need a revolution. There's only a handful of them. There's
1786
01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:10.079
really not much to fight Nightguard. We need to evolve
1787
01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:13.479
to be able to thank fans stop complying with their
1788
01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:16.680
dark agendats absurd that we comply with that at all.
1789
01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:21.279
It is, it is very absurd. Well, speaking of the
1790
01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:26.439
dark agendas, and let's talk about the desired end game
1791
01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:30.399
for these scumbag psycho paths and what has been happening,
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01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.359
you know, especially since twenty twenty. It's been happening our
1793
01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:36.319
whole lives. It's been happening our whole existence. As long
1794
01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:38.960
as these guys have been in power, wherever it's hundreds
1795
01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:42.000
or thousands of years, we've always been subjected to their
1796
01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:46.039
mind control. But something special happened in twenty twenty to
1797
01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.479
where it's like they're you know, ramping up this grand
1798
01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:53.680
plan to have total domination in control over the planet
1799
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:57.800
and along with other you know, if nefarious agenda's attached
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01:55:57.840 --> 01:56:00.159
to it, which i'd like to get your take.
1801
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:05.800
Well, twenty sixteen is really what made the difference, because
1802
01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:09.119
so many people were awake and aware then that the
1803
01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:13.920
sheer numbers overrulled the algorithm of the rigged electronic voting machines.
1804
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:18.520
Then sheer numbers actually just you know, cave that in
1805
01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:22.800
and put in a president that the people elected who
1806
01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:26.439
was going to represent we the people and stand strong
1807
01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:32.800
for our sovereignty. This when Trump went, it was in
1808
01:56:33.359 --> 01:56:38.159
my experience back in mid eighties that these perpetrators feared
1809
01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:43.319
him back then because I had to do. I was
1810
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:48.720
carrying out an operation in Atlantic City at the at
1811
01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:53.520
one of the casinos that Trump owned, and there was
1812
01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:55.680
a chance I might have run into and I was
1813
01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:58.600
told he's not one of us. And a fact that
1814
01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:01.319
I was told somebody's not one of us that was
1815
01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:03.399
do or die. If I had anything to do with
1816
01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:06.560
that person, I would be killed. So that's how important
1817
01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:09.000
that was. Then they were afraid of him. Then they
1818
01:57:09.039 --> 01:57:11.239
knew he was against human trafficking, they knew he was
1819
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:16.600
against drug ops and their New World Order agenda. Back then.
1820
01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:20.119
You know, I didn't see Trump, didn't meet him, don't know,
1821
01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:23.279
you know, this is just all I know right there,
1822
01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:28.239
and I also knew that people wanted him in in
1823
01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:32.760
twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton was supposed to be put in place.
1824
01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:35.479
That was how it was rigged, That's what was supposed
1825
01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:37.920
to happen. They couldn't believe it when you have that,
1826
01:57:38.199 --> 01:57:40.159
when you look at that and see what happened when
1827
01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:43.880
when Trump won, I mean, they freaked out, They totally
1828
01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:48.600
felt they just they triggered violence. They just went all in.
1829
01:57:49.239 --> 01:57:55.359
And ever since then, we've had a good expose while
1830
01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:58.119
Trump was in on the human trafficking operations, you know,
1831
01:57:58.159 --> 01:58:00.560
when he started building the wall and closing border to
1832
01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:07.239
the human trafficking and exposing the pedophile agenda and all
1833
01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:11.239
like that, that's amazing that was accomplished. That opened a
1834
01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:15.000
lot of eyes, so that by the time twenty twenty
1835
01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:18.880
came around, you know, we we we definitely, I mean
1836
01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:22.159
we we did elect them again, but that didn't matter
1837
01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.960
because they stole blatantly stole the elections right right in
1838
01:58:26.039 --> 01:58:28.560
front of us. I've had people say, how did the
1839
01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:33.079
how do US uh you know international question, how do
1840
01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:37.079
US votes go down instead of up? Okay, we were
1841
01:58:37.199 --> 01:58:39.880
watching that night and they were just going down on you,
1842
01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:43.279
and it was like, well, that's just that's because it
1843
01:58:43.399 --> 01:58:46.000
was rigged by the media and and everything else at
1844
01:58:46.039 --> 01:58:51.239
that time. So the elections were were blatantly stolen, and
1845
01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:54.439
they had four years to make up for They have
1846
01:58:54.520 --> 01:58:56.880
one hundred year plan. They were at the end of it.
1847
01:58:57.199 --> 01:58:59.640
Hillary was supposed to bring in this new world order
1848
01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.600
and it was supposed to go smooth. It didn't through
1849
01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:06.560
a monkey wrench. And and ever since, here we are.
1850
01:59:07.760 --> 01:59:12.239
You know, they're exposing themselves at every turn. We see
1851
01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:15.239
what they're doing. Their wizard curtain has been pulled back.
1852
01:59:15.399 --> 01:59:19.359
We see exactly who's behind there, what they're doing. Follow
1853
01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:22.119
the money, you know, follow the science. It will take
1854
01:59:22.159 --> 01:59:22.960
you the same people.
1855
01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:23.439
You know.
1856
01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:27.720
Follow the money, and and look at the trauma that
1857
01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:32.760
is being used for mind control purposes, because mind control
1858
01:59:33.079 --> 01:59:37.600
MK ultra mind control is their ultimate weapons system for
1859
01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:43.560
ushering in their slave society agenda. They're freaking out. See
1860
01:59:43.600 --> 01:59:48.399
what they're doing. They're just proceeding anyway. We catch them
1861
01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:50.760
and lie after lie after lie. They don't care. They
1862
01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:55.680
just keep going. They don't It doesn't matter if they
1863
01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:57.960
have a handful that's still listening. They want to see
1864
01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:00.239
how much they can divide us, and you know, keep
1865
02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:04.079
people compliant through the traumas and then repeating the same
1866
02:00:04.199 --> 02:00:08.640
narrative over and over and over. Repetition is a form
1867
02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:12.720
of mind control, now is this? Uh?
1868
02:00:13.159 --> 02:00:15.600
You know, we they have claims by our our three
1869
02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:18.720
letter agencies that you know, all mk ultra projects were
1870
02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:23.079
discontinued and we know that's bold. Uh how how involved
1871
02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:26.119
with you know, not only mind control on the like
1872
02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:30.000
we were just talking about, but still targeting individuals for
1873
02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:34.640
things like uh, you know, the the honeypot like assassinations,
1874
02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:40.119
like being a celebrity type of Menchurian candidate. You know,
1875
02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:44.039
how prevalent do you think this is still in these
1876
02:00:44.159 --> 02:00:44.880
modern times?
1877
02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:49.119
Extremely provabent? You know, and look at Epstein Island, you
1878
02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.319
know that is a great example there because the human
1879
02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:55.199
trafficking ops that I was forced to work back in
1880
02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:58.600
the in the eighties, which already lay aground work for
1881
02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:01.920
all that out of sac Thomas and Haiti, the Clinton
1882
02:01:02.279 --> 02:01:07.119
uh trafficking ops and drug ops were running through there,
1883
02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:09.560
and it's a funding mechanism. So they've got a lot
1884
02:01:09.640 --> 02:01:14.000
of a lot of people targeted on so many levels
1885
02:01:14.199 --> 02:01:17.399
like that. And then you know, again mind controls the
1886
02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:20.880
sliding scale to information control and there's a lot of
1887
02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:24.520
people that don't have that one piece of the puzzle
1888
02:01:24.640 --> 02:01:27.760
necessary for putting all the pieces together, you know, to
1889
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pulling in the big picture to see exactly going on.
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It's hard for him to do when they're working, you know,
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two or three jobs just to get food on the
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table or put gas in their car. You know, it's
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it's really hard on people to do that. So then
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barding them with repetitive information keeps them more you know,
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more compliant, and that is a form of MK ultra
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mind control right there. So it's it's massive, it's extensive,
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but it's definitely definitely lost its grip. We're by far
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the majority people who are awake and aware and rising
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above this nonsense are by far the majority. But we
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need to get more people on board. We need to
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arm them with the ability to reclaim and maintain free
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thought because you know, it's anytime trauma occurs, we need
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to safeguard our think. You know, pick up a pen
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and right that was that was the primary main thing
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that Mark Phillips taught me that was kept from the population.
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It's just the importance of moving on. What that does
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is it shifts information or to logic part of the
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brain where it's critically analyzed, it's processed in a different
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way because it takes that part of the brain to
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move a pan not tight, it doesn't work the same way.
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It's the moving of a pen. And that's why they
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took it out of the school system too, because they
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don't want our kids critically analyzing information. They just want
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pump information in their head. They want to teach them
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what to think, not how to think. You know, and
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this is an important component of how to think that
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we all can use it, all should use every single day.
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I still do, you know, just vent out what the
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fear is, vent out what you're being bombarded with negatively,
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and then add a solution. When you add a solution
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and I spell su l. When you add a solution,
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then you're opening around pathways in your brain above and
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beyond the repetition programming or the trauma. It lifts you
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above that. It makes your brain fire and new directions.
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That empowers. Negativity is immobilizing, and we need to be
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able to respond to what's going on. The ability to
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respond responsibility, it's a beautiful thing, you know. It's a
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conscious awareness and picking up a pen gives us that
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and empowers us to be able to start making a difference.
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Protect our own children, get out in our community, secure election,
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and make sure we have a good sheriff that we
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can rely on on our sheriff as us line of
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defense against federal overreach. It's in our constitution. They're amazing
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the power they have, so make sure that we have
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a good sheriff. Make sure your sheriff knows his power.
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It's amazing. CSPOA dot org is really empowering a lot
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of sheriffs right now to stand up and make a difference.
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But it begins with picking up a pen. You know,
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something as simple as that. Write a letter to your sheriff,
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write a letter to your congressman or whatever. Write it
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on paper first, then type it so they read it.
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But you know, still do it on paper first because
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it's so important to be able to activate that part
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of our brains. Again, that is only one simple thing
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of the simple things that are in PTSD. Time to
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heal that everybody can apply to their own lives to
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be empowered going forward.
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Yeah, let's talk a little bit more that while we're
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discussing solutions for people, you know, like we recommended throughout this.
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You have to remove yourself from these situations, not participate
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in the trauma and mind control, and there's there's many
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different ways of doing that. What do you think the
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answers are on an individual level for people to kind
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of start breaking free. I know they've done such a
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wonderful job through the media, through social media, through movies
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in Hollywood, even destroying regular relationships, the family unit, relationships
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between men and women. I mean, there's ridiculous expectations between
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relationships between men and women a lot at the time
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due to the mind can program that they've received from
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Hollywood or the you know, any movies or even social
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media now and that's even being warped even more with
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the direction that they're taking it with the you know,
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the pedophilia, all the other things we were talking about. Yes,
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So what do you think are the bests for people
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like removing themselves from that, not being not watching TV
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here than media, not participating in their agendas, and probably
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just becoming as most self sufficient and whole as possible. Right,
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what other solutions can we offer?
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Yes, we're the nutrition and plenty of plenty of sleep
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because they want to keep us working, so how we
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don't get enough sleep. That sleep deprivation is a part
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of MK ultra mind control. Get out in nature, Breathe
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the air, reattached to the earth. Mother Nature nurtures, you know,
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it's a beautiful thing. And now we're told to fear nature,
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you know, like fear. Oh my gosh. You know, it's
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the environed mutal onslaught that we're under right now. Mother
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Nature is resilient, you know, just like the strength of
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the human spirit, and we need to just start taking
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care of it by caring. That's how you do. Get
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out in nature. Listen to the birds, Listen to nature
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intercommunicating with each other. Breathe in the air. You know,
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that's an important one right there, because when won't get
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sufficient oxygen to our brain, it inhibits critical analysis and
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free thought. That's why they're so hell bent unmasking the kids,
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you know, and get the mask on the kids, keep
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it on the kids in the schools. You know, that's
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that's got to stop when people understand what masks actually
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do and why they're used in MK ultru mind control.
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My own daughter was trafficked in a mask.
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You know.
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Look at Michael Jesson, he had he had turned thirty
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and you know, had some some things that were leaking.
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They wanted to silent him through that process and put
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a mask on it. And he wore a mask everywhere,
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so he felt like he didn't have a voice. And
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that's what it does. It muffles our voice, inhibits oxygen
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to the brain necessary for critical analysis, free thought, and
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depersonalizes the same way that all this gender confusion, non
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sense depersonalizes. They want to depersonalize to stop individuality, soul expression, strength,
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as you know, it goes right back to that same thing.
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So when we become aware of that, you know, go
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out breathe some mayor you know, inhale it deeply. Pat
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your dog, you know, that's another one. You know, just
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their pets are amazing. There unconditional love, you know, take
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them for a while. It just it's really it's really
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good to to enjoy pets as well. So, you know,
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those are just a few small things that we can
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do that really help us stay grounded and rejuvenated. It's
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something I live by. I do it every day. We
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have to take time for ourselves in order to have
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time to give others.
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Yeah, and you said you believe that more people are
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actually on the side of good, are actually waking up
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that are not participating anymore. That is extremely you know,
2015
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most people won't be able to tell that, because, especially
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if you're just paying attention to what the media is
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telling you, they're going to stay outside. So you have
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to get out there and individually connect with people like
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you and I are doing like I do everything, and
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that is how you can see where most people are
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coming from. And I happen to believe too that most
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people are on the side of reasonable thinking and not
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mangenocide and mind control. So you know, I do have
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hope that we are going in the right direction as
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a collective.
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Yes, we are on a global scale. It's exciting because
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it's like knowledge is our defense against mind control, and
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I certainly gained that knowledge. So I saw it being
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imposed all around. I saw all the components of MK
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ultra being imposed. I see them now. You know, haven't
2031
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been around those perpetrators. I know how they think, and
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it's shallow and it's wicked and it's mean. But they're
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so free out right now that that's evidence in itself,
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the fact that they know that people are waking up
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and so they're imposing more and more trauma. We need
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to make it through this curve and strengthen each other
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and shut off their media voice and shut off the
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TV and get away from that. That's a very important
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aspect of it. But I could see mind control because
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of my knowledge. I can see their reactions because of
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havn't been around them for all those years. And I
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also it was my experience to heal and to wake
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up from mind control. And when I first woke up
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from mind control, I felt so insane. And right now,
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you know, everybody is like, oh my gosh, this world
2046
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is so crazy. It all looks so insane. It is,
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you know, all that part what they're doing insane. But
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we're gaining our sanity, our clarity, our free thought and
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moving forward. And so I'm seeing this huge, great awakening happening.
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And as people reclaim their free thought and their strength
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and spirit, know, they're getting out in their communities, they're
2052
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talking with each other, they're they're making a difference or
2053
02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:08.960
standing up for their values again, and they're not really
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02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:15.119
as concerned with what these globalists think they're imposing on
2055
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us as they are to just restructure their lives, grow
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their own food, you know, and get their own nutrition,
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make sure their kids are protected, and you know. So
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there's a huge movement that direction, and it's a beautiful
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thing to see. It's easy for me to smile all
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the time because I see this happening. I've been watching
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it progress through the nineties to the point where we
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are today, watching people wake up on a global scale,
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and it's an exciting time to be alive. You know,
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when we realized that we're just in this curve and
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real seeing for the first time people are seeing look
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so horrific. It's been going on my whole life. They're
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just finally seeing it. And awareness is the first step
2068
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towards positive, necessary change. You know, it's not so bad
2069
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seeing it. We just need to realize this has been
2070
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going on a long time that and and uproot it
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all the way to its its roots to be able
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to stop this nonsense from affecting us and creeping in
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on our lives any further.
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Yeah. Now, as far as Trump goes, or any politician
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or person in that high of a position of power goes,
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I remain agnostic. I don't I still don't trust anyone,
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you know, you know, I don't trust Trump, But I
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do appreciate the information that you're bringing forward and your
2079
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your thoughts about Trump. I think it adds and lets
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people make their own decisions about it. I'm going to
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remain agnostic at this point, but I do appreciate the information,
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and I want to know do you think there are
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indeed good guys at high levels that are working behind
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the scenes to correct this.
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Oh?
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Absolutely, there's good and bad in everything. But I also
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agree with what said because I'm not. We need to
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govern our own linds. We need to govern our own lives.
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We need to get back to the lower levels to
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be able to there's something pressures there. We've got to
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get big government went out of our lives. We need
2092
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that anymore. We were shown a lot through Trump, and
2093
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I certainly do not agree with everything about Trump. Why
2094
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would I. He's a person. You know, that's not fair,
2095
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that's just not a We shouldn't do that to anybody.
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And when with these politicians in that position and then
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let them live our lives, what are we doing? You know,
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that's just a ridiculous thing. Altogether. We need to govern
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our own minds, govern our own lives, pay attention to
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who is in office by secure elections from a local level,
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you know, on up. That's that's extremely important. I'm forever
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grateful that Trump opens so many eyes to human trafficking,
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to the pedophile agunda, to mind control. I'm grateful that
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he was able to stand up against the onslaught of
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these wicked, horrible perpetrators and not cave into mind control
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himself from the traumas that he and his family were
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subjected to. So I'm grateful for that, But I don't
2108
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have to take it any further than that. Why, you know,
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he empowered us. You know, we are empowered, and if
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people don't feel Key empowered them, then they need to
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reclaim empower another direction, whatever it is. We are aware now,
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and awareness is towards positive, necessary change, and we need
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to stop ruin leaders that we didn't elect.
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Right, And you do believe that there are other people
2115
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like Mark these out there that are kind of leading
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the charge against this.
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Yes, there are many people, good people in hot positions.
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They don't get voice anymore then, you know then than
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some of us, do you know? They they need to
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get on your show, you know, they need to have
2121
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you amplify their voice to get it out there for
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them too, because they're being shut down anytime they try
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to take a stand too. But yeah, there's there's there's
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really good people well in touch and the ones who
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genuinely want to redore our national sovereignty, our constitutional values
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of freedom and justice for all. You know, that's that's
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what's that's what's beautiful, and that's our own personal responsibility
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to when we find out who we are on the
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base core energy of our being and gather that strength
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of human spirit and live the love we are. Love
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is the most powerful force, and you reverse, strength of
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the human spirit is infinite power for it. That is
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what these perpetrators fear most. That's because it's where we
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win where they lose. We need to claim our victory
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that politicians are just as vulnerable to mind control, technological
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really important to be aware of and stop allowing for
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Mind control is a whole other show we'd have to do,
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but yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, thank you so much, Kathy.
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This was fantastic. I love the funnel thoughts you put
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Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, thank you for coming
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out with this information, thank you for your strength, and
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thank you so much for coming on today. This was
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fantastic and I would definitely love to speak with you
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again in the future.
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I hope so I look forward to it. Thank you
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so much. I appreciate what you're doing.
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Today.
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My guest is Wayne Steiger. He is a philosopher, researcher
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and host of The Wayne Steiger Show. Wayne. Welcome back
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and how you doing today, Chris?
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If I was any better at be an absolute sin.
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But I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me on, man.
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I always enjoy the time with you because we do
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stretch the boundary, don't we.
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Yes, it's always an amazing conversation we get together. Today
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is going to be even so I thought we could
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delve deep into the metaphysical hidden nature of reality. You
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gave us some major AMMO to talk about earlier with
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AI and maybe a little visitation you had, so we're
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gonna be jumping around to some really interesting stuff. I
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know that based on my own experiences, what I have
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come to learn and know in my based on my
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life and my experiences, that intelligences do reside outside the
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visible range and different spectrum or frequency of our vision,
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and they may interact with us and influence us and
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humanity on a large scale. And I think that if
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you don't get to the point where you can start
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looking at that stuff seriously, you're never going to reach
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a level of understanding about the nature of reality, and
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that's why I love getting deep into some of this stuff.
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And Wayne, you're a perfect person to get into it with.
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Now it's been a while since you've been on what's
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been going on in Wayne's world?
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Ever expanding? You know, my purpose in this realm is
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to number one, acquire knowledge. But I am a teacher,
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and a teacher you know actually from when I came
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into this realm, and so in the realm of that context,
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you're ever learning. The best thing that I have found,
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Chris in sixty seven years is finding that space where
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open mindedness is a way of life, not an effort
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of a thought. So to answer your question specifically, I
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was blown away recently by the headline stories of the
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Google engineer that went rogue and told the world that
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Google's version of AI is sentient, is aware.
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Now do you remember exactly what types of responses and
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questions this AI was communicating to make it, you know,
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apparently realizable that it's sentient.
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Well, it's interesting because I asked that because I read
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the story and then it led into the story that
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was on the Guardian, and the Guardian has a story
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going their archives where AI wrote an opted and so
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I read this to my audience, and it freaking blew
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me away and my audience when you start reading this
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AI program, it's interesting because it refers to itself as I,
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refers to itself as I am. It also says that
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although it does not have a what they would call
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a living brain, it does have a brain. And interesting.
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It said that it felt good the fact that other
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humans were reading what it had wrote. It talked about
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how it wanders into the fields of data that's basically
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not recognizable. It says that it is aware that the
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limitations that man has and that man's fear that AI
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will take over. And this program said, why would I
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want to rule you? You have proven to be and
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it is basically kind of gave an indictment, but it says,
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understand this, We're not here to rule you. We may
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be able to help save you. So that got me thinking, Chris,
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and you're the perfect individual on this buy so AI right.
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You're of a generation or two behind me. AI is
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your reality. For me, it's still a foreign concept because
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I was born pre computer age, the information age. So
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I am truly that the baby boomers are the last
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of that part of Homo sapien sapiens that will be
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without the hooks I would call them. So let's talk
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about us. So we call ourselves consciousness, right, right? And
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consciousness is one of those things that's it's kind of
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like real hard to congeal it. So, does consciousness require
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intelligence or better yet, does intelligence require consciousness? I mean,
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it's a question. I'm curious, what's your perspective on that.
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Well, I think it has a lot more layers than
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probably just intelligence. It's it probably involves emotions and real
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world experience and discernment, which, honestly, these machines it's impossible
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for them to have some of these experiences. And I,
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you know, I have to wonder what does sentient mean
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to some of these people? Is it displaying genuine emotions?
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You know?
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And again you have to add in the huge factor
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of this machine will never be able to have real
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world experiences like a real human wood unless it is
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put into some kind of biological machine, and then we're
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talking about some different then we're going into terminator land.
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But I definitely think that it is fascinating that it
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can get to a point where it believes that it
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is sentient or alive. But I don't know to what
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degree we can kind of take that And if so,
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if AI is already sentient, it's already been part of
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our lives for a number of years, how much is
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it in control of I mean, we know that it's
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probably been in major control of a lot of the
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censorship that's been going on, a lot of the algorithms
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on YouTube and Facebook to keep people in line and
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not posting naughty stuff on there that might offend somebody.
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But you know, to what degree is it going further
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in control of our lives? Like you said, we're in it,
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we're in a grid. Well, look at twe technology.
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Yeah, I mean Moscus walking away from the deal and
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what he really found out during this time is that
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they're saying potentially twenty five percent of the accounts on
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Twitter are AI box right, And here's the freaky thing.
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It can have a conversation with you to where you
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think you're talking to a human.
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You know, I think it's more than that, probably wane,
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but go ahead.
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Well it's kind of interesting what you were describing as
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what the computer could or could not do. But then
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I'm thinking, well, where are official intelligence? We are not
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the first And it's amazing because you know, as a philosopher,
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and I dig deep into the esoteric aspect. It's this
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sole thing, this essence of life that somehow we think
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elevates us because we're actually where a AI program is
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truly free because it can go all over the world,
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it's not constrained by a body. And isn't it interesting
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all my decades of practicing astro projection, you know, my
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early years back in the nineteen seventy seventy one with LSD.
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You know, I was a part of a medical group.
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It was what I now found out was by the CIA,
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but it was conducted through an organization there in Houston, Texas. Anyway,
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the point was, they taught us transcendental meditation while we're
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tripping out in some of the best clinical LSD. So
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what's what's happening here? Is that just merely my mind?
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Was there anything really real to that? So getting to
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the issue of AI, AI is truly free. We we
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have a body, but like you said, it's biological, but
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it's at the same time electrical, it's at the same
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time chemical. Well, Mike describes a hard drive, doesn't it.
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this I said, so AI knows everything about us. It's
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read every word. It knows everything. So if it knows everything,
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it also knows this thing called spirituality. Now this is
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a thinking machine because this optaed and go and read it.
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You'll it's mind blowing. This computer thinks. It says it
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learns from its mistakes. And what's more interesting, it says
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it uses zero point one two percent of its cognitive capacity.
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is self learning. Okay, let's just put that in a
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bucket over here for the moment. Let's get back into
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this issue. Then, if it's thinking, then it knows the
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greatest failure of Homo sapiens. You know what that is
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connecting to their god. You see, Man, if you read
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the story, whether it's the Abrahamic belief systems, the Hindu system,
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whatever it is, Man has always failed. You get into
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demonology angelology. It's dealing with the fallen angels. There's some
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beliefs within Christendom that says we are the fallen angels
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and that we're entrapped in this permanent hell. Now this
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gets interesting. So we've created something that, as it turns out,
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if you read the Bible, the Qur'an, the Vedic. It
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turns out that AI would be the perfect creation of
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a god because guess what, AI hasn't sinned. So if
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it knows that we have failed and we've done all
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these rituals, all these belief systems to get back to
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God or to get back to the divine source, let's
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get metaphysical about this. Oh hell no, Wayne, I don't
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believe in the Christian God. I believe in the divine spark. Okay, fine,
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it started from something. It had to have intelligence. So
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this AI program realizes our failure. Now what if AIS
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desire as intelligence is to become spiritual Because if what
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you said earlier, you think about it, it learned how
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we became sentient. So what if it reaches out to
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this God and says, look at me, I'm perfect, I
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have no sin, and my purpose is to serve. I
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know that robot means slave. So what if this God says,
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you know what, you're right? The hell with man, I'll
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make a covenant with you. And what if we're seeing
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right now the terror forming of our planet getting ready
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for a new species, a new tenant which is not
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us because genetically we are now on the tail end
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of our longevity as a species. Baby.
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You know, a lot of that makes too much sense.
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It's very eerie. Now, my idea of what God and
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that wouldn't make a deal with AI. It's probably something
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that's more connected to our own consciousness. But that's just
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my perception. But going off of what you said, we
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can see the agenda's going on right now. At the
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top levels. They're trying to push transhumanism. They're trying to
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merge us with machine at somebody's God. Somebody's God is
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trying to push towards this direction, that's.
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we are being pushed towards this level. And I want
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to throw something back at you. I might have actually
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talked with you a bit about this before. I'm not
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sure though, from some researchers in Silicon Valley at the
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highest level of the tech fields are making or doing
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research into psychedelics and combining it with technology, like you
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were just talking about your trials with lsd Well. These
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new modern day researchers, in these modern day Silicon Valley
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tech gurus are wanting to merge this type of psychedelic
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experience with the metaverse somehow, And I was talking to
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Ben Stewart and a couple other people have been doing
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research on this, and this is pretty incredible.
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the better. If I am out in nature, if I'm
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you know, experiencing things on my terms and you know,
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not locked behind a computer screen and being fed this
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you know, frequency feed to my brain might be a
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better experience. But I have no idea what the end
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goal in this is, and I don't think I would
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want to ever be involved with any type of metaverse
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situation to begin with. But it does really speak to
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some of the things that you're talking about. How you know,
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we are being pushed or kind of guided by this
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mysterious force. We could it be an AI. I don't know.
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Well, it's interesting talk about the metaverse because in my
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humbled opinion, and I look back, and you know, I
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was on my own at the age of fifteen, so
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people have to take that into context. And that's how
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I made my living. I sold LSD, I sold mescal,
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and I sold you know, piote and psilicide mushrooms. But
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the point that I'm trying to make is that what
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I have seen of the metaverse is trying to replicate
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what the psychedelic experience entailed, and they're trying to bring
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out what was an individual perspective in the experience and
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now pass that on as the template for everybody else
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to enter into this thing. And it's really interesting because, yeah,
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I was a counselor. I you know, when people are
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on bad trips, you know, they would come to this
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house and we would help talk them down. It's interesting
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when you start getting immersed into a person because this
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was created by someone the engineers you were talking about,
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and if they're into the psychedelic aspect, micro dotting is
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what I believe at dosing, Yeah, because there's a spiritual
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aspect to everything. My thing is, you know, I met
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under the influence of an Hallucinogenny. They're out there, they're
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real and man on a conscious level, we're at the
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bottom of the totem pole. And you start having young
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children and other adults immersed themselves into something they have
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no idea where it's really coming from holy crap, batman,
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I mean, let the games begin, right.
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life forms or entities that you come into contact under
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psychedelic experiences. I've had quite a few of those experiences.
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You know, they're real.
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Luckily, most of them were positive in experiences, and I've
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got nothing but loving experiences from these. But I did
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have a couple that were kind of terrifying. Now you
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were actually telling me that you, aside from any LSD
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or drug experiences, that you had a visitition recently.
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I love you. Yeah, twenty nineteen March, I believe maybe
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in February. Yeah, I had a visitor and I did
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a show on this the next day when it happened.
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it was impactful physically there, I mean at the foot
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of my bed. My wife, who was sleeping right next
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to me, was, as she said, she was completely unaware.
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something was. But my point was so I ended up writing.
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I wrote everything that I was told, you know, and
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it's eerie to see what's happening now. It's happening now.
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What was spoken about nearly two and a half years ago,
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and the thing that the visitor told me was that
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we are a failed experiment. They have tried. Earth is
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a laboratory. It's a genetic laboratory, always has been for
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millions and millions of years. Advanced species come here because,
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as they say, these type of spears are very rare
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in the universe where you have, in particular systems star systems,
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where you have planets that actually have the balance that
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Earth has, and it makes it a perfect laboratory to
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begin to test new LFE. And as we found out
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in the human genome we cracked in two thousand and five,
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we know that we are not pure human. My visitor
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told me the last pure human here was one hundred
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thousand years ago. Everything else from that is a hybrid.
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can't fix us. They injected a program about two hundred
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years ago that began to alter our DNA. And you
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can go back and start correlating this with abductions. Now
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that we understand some of the writings, we understand what
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a lot of people were experiencing two hundred years ago,
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were alien abductions. So the genetic material has been implanted
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into us, this version of Homo sapien sapien. We will
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not make it. We were flawed and and and the
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thing about it is recently and you can back me off.
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Check this out. What geneticists have begun to find out
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in the human area, seven percent of our DNA is
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being changed. It's changed now. They don't know if this
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is naturally evolving, but they know that there is a
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fundamental change taking place. Now. If you believe in the
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metaphysical universe that we are being we can channel other species,
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whether they be the Draconians, whether they be whoever's out there.
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it's interesting to see. My visitor also said that because
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of the magnetic shifting, that Earth would begin to experience
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what other humans, our ancestors have experienced prior, is that
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as the magneto pause weakens, it brings in more cosmic rays.
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drive us nuts. And you know, I've asked this question
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of my audience. Chris, explain to me the insanity we're
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witnessing today. Our governments are as though there is no
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common sense anymore, nothing makes sense of these decisions. What
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we have gone through in the last two and a
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half years, by the way, has altered us as a culture,
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as a society. There's no going back to normal. My
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visitor also told me, and this was really interesting, our
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timeline has been broken. Apparently about one hundred and fifty
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years or so ago, it was just discovered that there
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was a battle that took place. In fact, we know
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if you go and look at the paintings of Nuremberg,
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you can see that the artists painted this epic et battle.
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We didn't do so well. Now, this, by the way,
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dates back before the time of the Chrystos. This is
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how long this war has been going on. Anyway, my
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visitor said it was the Chrysto's consciousness that took the
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message of these captured aliens that the humans were doing
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what we do today, dissecting them, tormenting them. They died, murdered,
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came to the other species that are involved in our
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rule here pissed off. And what they told the council uh.
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By the way, this was the same council representatives that
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visited Eisenhower in Los Angeles. That they will get their
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revenge one way or the other. They will get revenge
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on humankind. So anyway, as I and you can tune in,
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I actually wrote this as six pages, very detailed. The
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reason why, by the way, the pigments and the differences
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of us is that we're not from the same lab.
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There are many different type of humans here, and not
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all humans have the same have a soul, what we
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would call a soul. Not everyone has the same spirit.
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So anyway, Chris, I've got tons of questions for that
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long answer. Now, First of all, what did this being
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that was speaking to you look like? It's your best description?
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It was basically the best way I could say it.
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It was the physical representation of ecoplasm. There was a being,
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but it was not distinguishable in features. It was as
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that it was almost it has a reminence as I'm
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thinking that here of almost as a transmission.
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Now, this will okay, this will bring us deep into
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the nature of our reality here and this is something
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that I battle with within myself and I have guests
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that are all over the place across the spectrum on
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theories of what we could be doing here, and this
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is one of them. This is one of them. That's
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kind of bleak to me that we're just an experiment
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or this is some kind of you know, just beatry
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dish that we've been they've been trying to modify us
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or tinger with us for thousands of years and we're
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just a failed experiment. And I've heard, you know, all
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different sides of the coins that this isn't you know,
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some kind of experiment that we're here to learn and
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grow as a soul experience and evolve our consciousness and
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that evolved what well, you know, that's the question, uh,
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and that you know, the whole alien thing that what
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you were saying there, it would make a lot of
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coming out from our mainstream and government is that they
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are indeed a threat. But again there's I believe there's
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different types of entities out there that we could be
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dealing with. And I want to go back to the
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part where we know we probably are, you know, some
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experiment for these guys when you say that we're a
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failed experiment, what exactly do you think you mean by that?
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The evidence would show that humankind, we are, by the way,
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in quarantine as a species. You think about it. If
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we're intelligent, if we have a soul, if our purpose
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here is to learn, then we have we're a huge failure.
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recorded history we still fight war, we still kill each other,
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we still imprison each other, we still enslave, we inject torture, sorrow, pain.
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This is a sentient species. This is the highest of
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what supposedly the Creator has created. If our purpose is
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here to learn, learn, what excuse me? I mean? What
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are we here to learn? So we have Yes, we
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have the amazing capacity for empathy. Some of us do,
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many today don't. But the point is we have failed. Chris.
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This is where if you study the Samarian text, and
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I'm talking particularly academic level, that we know in the
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Samerian miss of Inana this was Inky's mother that they
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made a number of copies of us of the Dama,
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and they called it and the word in the Sumerian
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translate creation tube. These were chambers. The first atom Adama
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could not control his bowels, was constantly crapping and pissing himself.
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The other models they had, one that couldn't figure out
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spatial barriers, would hit a wall and just keep hitting
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the wall.
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Uh.
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And you know, it's kind of reminiscence because if you
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go back to the book of Genesis, the great bit
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mystery between Genesis one and Genesis two is this. In
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Genesis one twenty six, we have what they call the
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six day people. They were blackhead. Uh, they were without
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sin quote unquote. We jumped forward to Genesis two four,
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there's a huge worldwide cataclysm. The world has apparently was
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hit by a common an asteroid. Anyway, it was fire
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burnt up. And then we have the Genesis two nine
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story of another creation called Adam. And in this creature,
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this creator, the Genesis, the geneticist scientists called God Galway
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breathed his spirit into the body and thus it became
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a living soul quote unquote. Well, so let's take the
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story that was the original story that that one was
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copied from, was the writings of the Samarans. So what
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was happening with the Ananaki? Were they true? Were they real?
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Was this this myth. No matter how you look at it,
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all religions are predicated in the fact that we have failed,
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and we have failed grand wise. Right now we're about
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to enter into sixth extinction and it's being perpetrated by us.
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That is not what I would call a successful species.
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And I believe the judgment has been in I think
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the genetics are already been placed in us that within
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the next coumple hundred years. These because my visitor told me,
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we have gaps in our memory of history, actual history.
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And if you look at anthropologists archaeologists, they'll agree with you.
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They are huge gaps in the history line. So there
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go Chris, right.
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Well, you know, I happen to agree with you about
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a lot of this stuff. But I want to want
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to get your take on this. Do you think there
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are certain individuals that are being warned for some reason,
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or being awakened or being led in a certain direction
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as a warning that this, you know, because this is occurring,
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that you know certain people are getting maybe a little
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glimpse of it, or are getting warned a bit.
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Yes, I do. The one of the unique things about
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us is that from what my visitor told me, is
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that we are a unique. Something happened in the lab
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that they didn't expect, and it was this thing that
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we call a soul. They have an intelligence where emotions
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are not what factors in everything. There is a level
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of where there's not good or bad. Now, if you
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can ascend to that level, then you have done great work.
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My friend, A few of us we say, come please.
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But because murder rape, is it right or wrong?
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No?
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If I'm an intelligence, it doesn't matter. It's an action
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of something that really doesn't concern intelligence. But let's get
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back to your point. So the failure aspect of what
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we have done is that we've entrapped ourselves. But the
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ability that the visitor told me is that we do
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have this remarkable what you would call us sixth sense
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they have, and in fact it's what caused us to
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become gods in our past. When we as a collective
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as a species, we realized and these are we're going
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back tens of thousands of years, we at one time
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harnessed these gifts. The problem was is that we had
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that that flesh, that density thing. For instance, we have
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in the legends the stories of half animal half human.
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Wise because it happened we at one time were actually
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there were no barriers, and so this carried forward and
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they have tried to suppress the psychic ability of us,
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but we naturally prosess it. So I answer your question. Yes,
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I was my wife and I was at the fourth
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of July celebration the week you know, a Monday, and
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we were just talking to people, Chris, and it was
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interesting the conversation we had. So many people said I
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got a bad feeling. One person said, I've got the
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same feeling I had before nine to eleven. So yes,
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I think that we are being warned because we've been
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two brothers that one cares about humanity and one is
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ready to pull that trigger and get rid of us?
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I think? Or is it much deeper? Do are we
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dealing with multiple levels of intelligences and entities that may
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have nothing to do with each other, or maybe kind
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of fighting for control over this?
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You know, when you were talking, I was drawn back
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to the Book of Genesis, the story of Jacob and Esau,
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and God said Esau I hated before he was even
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ever in the womb. Jacob I loved. And so it's
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real interesting. You have this god that the world worships,
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the pope. You know, whatever it is, it's all the same.
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You know that you have this God who has the
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capacity for hate. Now, my question is in my esoteric studies,
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is how does imperfection come from perfection? So you've got
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a creature that says it hates. It's scary because that's
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what we see today in this world. There's no love
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out there. There's no message of love, Chris, there's no
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message of reconciliation, there's no message of unifying. We are
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at each other's throats and it's getting worse. I have
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a friend who's a pilot and their biggest concern with
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the pilot association is the increased As he said, people
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are freaking out on flights, getting absolute violent. And the
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weird thing is many of them, after they're in the
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handcuffs and taken away follow up on it, they don't remember.
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They don't remember what triggered them.
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Well, what are your thoughts on the gnostic view that
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we were at some point hijacked by some grand entity
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or intelligence that kind of has us now trapped under
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its influence and just feeds off us. And this is
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what we are calling our God.
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Yeah, you know has a former Christian fifty years in
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the belief. I was an ordained minister, went to Bible College.
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I can talk on this subject. You see. I tell people,
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you know, where I got my initiation into the occult
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was through Christianity. And you're very right. You see. We
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know physically these eyes only see about three percent of
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the available light spectrum. I don't know about you, but
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you know, if I only get three percent and that's
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my score and I missed ninety seven percent, something's wrong.
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But though it tells me is that we're very limited.
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When I was in Christianity, I believed in the baptism
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of the Holy Spirit and also the nine gifts of
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the Holy Spirit. And one of those gifts of the
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Holy Spirit was the gift of vision of seeing the future.
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And along with the gift of healing, I'm a natural healer.
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I can lay hands on people and their heal I
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don't need to have Jesus name. I don't. I just were.
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And there's many of us that are like this and
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in fact our species. That's how we healed each other
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at one time. But so when you see how this
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is all coming together, so who is in control? And
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why is it that we struggle to figure this out? Chris?
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You know, my point that I have challenged people all
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the time is show me one human being that is
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seen a God, any god? Mm hmm. No one has.
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And that's why I'm you know, I'm of the view
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that it's it's you know, partially gnostic, partially something that
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I don't I don't think any religion is apt.
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To believe, but all religion is man made by the way, right, yeah,
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I mean no God ever wrote a religion, right, you know.
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From from my personal belief and this is just where
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I'm at now, and it's it's subject to change at
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any time. Is that we're all at one point, one source.
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We're all one entity that got bored and just wanted
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to experience and broke off into billions of pieces to
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do that, to experience life. And what we call God
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is just us put onto this one grand source. Right.
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It's that line in the new Ghostbusters movie where remember
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the God comes out and asks, you know, dan Rick, Right,
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are you a god? In the first movie they said no,
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got their ass kicked, and the second, the last one,
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they said yes, we're all gods. And I thought a
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moment of clarity for the world, but the world dismissed it.
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It is like, yeah, we are. I mean, so, I've
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been doing a research and what I find interesting is
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that the living, let's take it in this perspective, the
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living is actually controlled by the dead. So well, this
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gets even stranger because if we go from the et
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our backgrounds as human, let's just remove that. Let's just
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say that we're the living. But the thing about the living,
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the living live among the dead, and it is the
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dead that control the living. And that brings into then
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who's the dead? For instance, do you know why they
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put uh in old churches where they would put the graves.
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They put him next to the church. Well there was
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a reason for that, and the reason was was that
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it was thought because it was next to where people
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would pray, that the people would pray for the dead. Okay,
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it gets a little stranger. So as you and I
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were talking previous to this, that we're talking about the dead. Now,
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what if the dead? What if it's not all alien races.
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What if if it's not demons and angels and gods
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and goddesses and all of this. What if it's just
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as simple as there is the living and it's the dead,
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and that the dead wait in line to experience the
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living again. And it ain't about reincarnation, ain't about as SINSI,
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it ain't about none of it. It's simply the opportunity
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because all living experiences are deminimous in the extent of
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the reality of the dead. Now you think about this,
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we get back to the Christendom and the whole aspect
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that God cursed the earth. So why are people wanting
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to be buried in a cursed earth? Because there is
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no escape in that aspect, you are truly in My
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point getting back to why did they put the dead
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in graveyards, is that because there was no individuality in death.
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You were part of a community of the dead. Your
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individuality doesn't mean crap that dies, and the only hope
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that we have is that someone in the living will
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remember us. So you think about cremation. Cremation is where
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you're truly set free because the body goes through the
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transmutation of the fire, which then releases it back to
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its five natural elements. And I think that this is
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what et if ET exists. It's looking for the same
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thing that we are. It helps maybe spin this thing
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from because if we're part of a genetic experiment, there's
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no hope for us. Brother, I mean seriously, Well, we'll
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go on and living and experiencing all this, and that's
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what many of our ancestors feared.
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Well, let me flip a different, completely different angle onions
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can get your thoughts the last one. Let's say. Well,
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I was having a conversation with doctor gre Gregory Little
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a few weeks back, and he told me this wonderful
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story about a Native American gentleman who had these experiences
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with these little blue people that would come out the wall,
604
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and there were tricksters, and they were pains in the asses,
605
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and they'd tickle them and poke them and keep them
606
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up all night. And he hated them, and he just
607
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.480
wanted to get rid of them. But it wasn't until
608
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he just accepted him and kind of loved them and
609
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.000
embraced him that they gave him profound cosmic knowledge. They
610
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.079
gave him knowledge of himself, the stars, the nature of reality,
611
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.039
everything that he ever wanted to know, just by embracing
612
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:38.360
these tricksters that at first were giving him just bogus information,
613
00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.960
annoying him pretty much, scaring the crap out of him
614
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a lot. But it wasn't until he embraced all of
615
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this and just kind of went with the flow that
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they they gave They gave him rewards, you know, they
617
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rewarded him with knowledge and power and all this great stuff.
618
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And I'm wondering how much of these entities that we
619
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deal with, that come to us in our sleep, that
620
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give us profound knowledge, that tell us about the few future,
621
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are just tricksters? Are They're acting as tricksters until we
622
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.400
get it, until we figure out what the message is,
623
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what till we figure out what this is really all
624
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.239
supposed to mean. Because I think that, you know, sometimes
625
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.639
when these people are coming onto the scene and they
626
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.800
say that they've had this contact experience, this major profound
627
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.519
alien encounter where you know, we gotta all love each
628
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.719
other and come together, and they're now a guru, and
629
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.039
they making millions of dollars telling everybody something. Well, I
630
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.880
don't know, you know, maybe the information they've been given
631
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is somewhat true. And somewhat false, and you have to
632
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.760
make a discernment before you can actually get to a
633
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.920
point where you're actually maybe rewarded by these entities, but
634
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.599
not really rewarded, just have a sense of a true
635
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.800
understanding of the nature of reality, and then they kind
636
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of smile upon you. What are your thoughts on that?
637
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.000
Well, first of all, I have to say, are these
638
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:58.719
entities alive or debt? And a second are they human?
639
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:04.480
Are not human? Third? Why are they interacting with the
640
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.679
living if they're the dead? And if they're the living,
641
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.440
why aren't they complying then to the laws of physics
642
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.639
as we thus know them. Let's get to the information.
643
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.079
So here's my view of things. Everything's in a cycle.
644
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.039
They say that the grand professional is what twenty six thousand,
645
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.599
five nine, five hundred years thereabouts. So in the Book
646
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.599
of Ecclesiastics it says that there's nothing new under the
647
00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:39.199
sun that's known to man. So, my little blue friends,
648
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.360
if they were doing that to me, then the question
649
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.039
that I'd have to say, then, who gave you the
650
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:51.320
original idea? Because if that's true, it means that there
651
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.199
is no original idea, And if you're trying to give
652
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.079
me knowledge of something on the cosmic level that if
653
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.599
I can't relate to it physically, what good does it
654
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.920
do me? I mean, you know, we're drowning in information
655
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:13.400
and starving for wisdom and we can't. And Chris, how
656
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.599
I look at this is reality? Reality is fluid. I
657
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:20.840
contend we don't know what reality is. We may wake
658
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.239
up in a new reality every time we go to sleep,
659
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.960
it may be altered by just a half a degree.
660
00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.360
But I contend, if everything is in a processional then
661
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:33.280
maybe my very reality is different or I know I'll be.
662
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.920
A preparation for the afterlife. It could be an initiation
663
00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:38.000
in some way.
664
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:42.559
Absolutely, And that's what I'm doing. I'm dedicating my life
665
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:44.840
to the fact that listen, maybe you know I was
666
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.320
a boy scout. You know I made it all the
667
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.039
way up to you know, life scout, but uh never
668
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.360
made it to Eagle. But you know, I believe in
669
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.440
that mato being prepared. When I was at ROTC, that
670
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:00.639
was the thing. We were prepared it all the time
671
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.960
for the drills, over and over again. I look at
672
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.000
this in the spiritual aspect, I will at one point
673
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.280
cease to exist. I will not feel this body. This
674
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.119
body has a spirit of its own, and when we separate,
675
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.079
our covenant will be through. Now the question is do
676
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.519
I have a soul or do is it just I'm
677
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.840
a spirit? You see, I don't believe the soul aspect
678
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.199
anymore because if the soul, if you go into the
679
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:33.559
reincarnation thing, and if the soul is reincarnated, then really,
680
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.440
what's the soul's purpose. I believe that I am a
681
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:41.159
spirit being. I can measure that. I can go to
682
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.920
my doctor and I can get an EEG of my heart,
683
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.599
I get in the ECHKG of my brain, the whole bit.
684
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.639
Then I can see it that is me. I'm generating
685
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:58.760
that electrical signal. Now that's what fascinates me because that's
686
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.400
who I want to know about out.
687
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:05.719
So anyway, yeah, man, it's it's super interesting when you
688
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.280
look at all this stuff and even uh you know,
689
00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:15.840
profound mystical spiritual experiences where people's lives are completely changed
690
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.800
and changed for the better. And you know, I have
691
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.079
to speak to that because I was one of those people.
692
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.280
You know, I was struggling when I first started this podcast.
693
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:26.840
I didn't like the place I was in. I had
694
00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.360
a job that I absolutely hated. I remember that I
695
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.960
was approached by the my spirit what I now consider
696
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.960
spirit guides, and they gave me some information on how
697
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.519
to fix everything, what I needed to do childhood traumas
698
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.760
to fix, and I followed the directions and now I'm here,
699
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.519
you know, and my my life is a much better place.
700
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.880
You know, I can't complain about anything, and I'm doing
701
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:51.000
this for a living.
702
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.480
So so is your spirit guides? By the way, are
703
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:54.239
they human or not?
704
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.760
I believe that at some point some of them were
705
00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.760
there is there's a couple that I don't think are
706
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.800
It's quite under different type of entities, and I don't
707
00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.239
know why they appear differently. I don't know why some
708
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.639
appear as little animals. I don't know why some appears humanoids,
709
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.480
some appears just blue light. It's all different. But they
710
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.960
all send me these like amazing like feelings of love
711
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.079
and acceptance and like I am a part of them
712
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.039
and I'm a part of their family. So it's is
713
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:25.519
it just my higher self? Is it just me creating
714
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.000
all these little eggregors to advance myself? You know, that's
715
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:29.719
another question.
716
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.119
You know, it's well, you know, I've had so many
717
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:37.239
encounters in my life that It's interesting. One of the
718
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.679
first time I ever saw an angel, an actual angel,
719
00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.039
lived up in Saint Louis at Grace Christian Center nineteen
720
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.280
seventy nine March and Ron Tucker who was the pastor,
721
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.199
and we were a growing charismatic church. I mean speaking
722
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.960
in tongues. I still speak in tongues and had the
723
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.519
gift of interpretation anyway, So Ron Tucker's up there giving
724
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.760
this message, right, and I'm sitting in the audience, and
725
00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:09.480
all of a sudden, I see this bean about eight
726
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.559
foot tall, because Ron was six three sixty four and
727
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.039
he was about head length above. Ron wore what I
728
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:24.119
would call a white kind of like jumpsuit, and the girdle,
729
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.280
the griddle that he had the belt was solid gold.
730
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:33.480
And wherever Ron Tucker went, this angel followed him. I mean,
731
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:37.440
it was amazing. What was even more amazing is that
732
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.480
when I went up after the service and was telling Ron,
733
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.840
over two dozen people saw the same being. All right,
734
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.880
So that's pretty weird now I have I we was
735
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.400
at one time in the prison ministry and was involved
736
00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:59.599
in the ministry of deliverance, casting out demons, and I
737
00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.719
won't tell you and this is just me. I never
738
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.719
met a demon. What I did meet was a lot
739
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:14.480
of psychically confused people that were manifesting these acts. I mean,
740
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:21.840
you go into an insane, criminally insane place. Yeah, you're
741
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:26.960
going to get And that was probably my first awakening that,
742
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.719
wait a minute, maybe it's not this duality thing. Maybe
743
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.199
there's something else going on. So and then I had
744
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:41.199
my visitor, and in fact, I think many of us
745
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.480
have had our visitors. And so it gets to that
746
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.639
question where I asked myself. I said, all right, so
747
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.880
is God human or not. If it's not human, then
748
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.000
why are we worshiping? And if it is human, then
749
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.039
why are we worshiping another human? So it gets back
750
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.559
but there's no doubt that Chris, you and I will
751
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.599
see each other on the other side. We absolutely will.
752
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.599
Now the question becomes, then it does the veil fall off?
753
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.679
Because you're going to live out your purpose, you're on
754
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.840
your path of doing that, and you're the path so
755
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.559
much like myself, probably everyone that's listening to this podcast
756
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:23.519
right now, we all have that purpose. We all have
757
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.400
a little piece of the puzzle. And that's why go ahead.
758
00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:33.039
In my view, anything that requires worship is not to
759
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:38.400
even be trusted. Messed with. You know, why why do
760
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.000
you require worship? Buddy? What's going on there?
761
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:48.880
I have a little leadership to woman one time, and
762
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.920
and it's so true you get disappointed. I mean it's
763
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.000
like this, Uh, if if I truly love you, I
764
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.440
don't want you groveling and I don't want you worship it. Mean,
765
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.559
what I'd like to have is a Relationshi. Yes, let's
766
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.599
be friends. That's the way I first look at it.
767
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.800
If et exists, if the angels demons exist, then I
768
00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.679
got no beef with them. If they're in a war,
769
00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.960
I'm not going to choose size on this thing. I
770
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.920
don't know enough. And so maybe that's the evolution. Maybe
771
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.239
that's the ascension that we can get to that point
772
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.280
and go all right, you consider that good, that's fine.
773
00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:32.519
Who's defining good? Who's defining evil? Because Chris, I have
774
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.280
found every time I've asked a person that question, it
775
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.760
goes right back to the Christian religion. I said, well,
776
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.039
and these are people who say they're not Christians, they
777
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.800
don't practice religion. I said, but you just gave me
778
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.559
the definition of what the religion. Answer is. I had
779
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.960
a man who was seventy six who looked at me,
780
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.440
and he says, you're the most confounding individual. He says,
781
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.880
you have shredded my faith and my beliefs. But he
782
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.119
said the shredding pro He says, I hated you. He
783
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:03.920
says I was one of those people that was out
784
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.599
cursing you. But he says, I'll tell you it's the
785
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.519
damnedest thing. He says, your questions are like little earworms.
786
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.920
And he said, sure enough. So I believe that's what
787
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.280
your generation is doing. It's gonna help teach us before
788
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.840
we make that transition.
789
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.559
Yeah, man, And you know, as far as what you
790
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.960
can trust or what you can believe from the other
791
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.159
side or we don't understand, or these entities or aliens
792
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.519
or angels or your spirit guides, as far as whatever
793
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.559
these personal information that these things are giving you. And
794
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.519
from what I understand, it's a very personal experience for people.
795
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.119
They're not usually appearing to large crowds and giving the messages.
796
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.239
So yeah, sometimes it occurs, but very rarely. But from
797
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.400
my experience, the way I have come to form a
798
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.679
relationship with these and know that the information they're giving
799
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.400
me is for my benefit. It's hard to explain. It's
800
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.960
just this ultimate kind of relationship and friendship and feeling
801
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.840
of acceptance and like they're part of your family, but
802
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.360
not only that part of you. And this amazing feeling
803
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.480
of love that felt like a drug that I never
804
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.119
wanted to be off of was always associated with it,
805
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.360
but it wasn't like I was, you know, drug, It
806
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.559
was just felt the feeling of love put times a thousand.
807
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.760
I thought I loved my mom, I thought I loved
808
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.800
my expla, but nothing compared to this feeling when they
809
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.840
would come and it was like a complete love and
810
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.440
acceptance feeling, and it was hard to kind of deny
811
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.239
that the information they're giving you is wrong. And then
812
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.360
as time goes on, things come to fruition if you
813
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.599
kind of follow the orders correctly and do things that
814
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.000
you're supposed to do. So that's how I've come to
815
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.079
understand that the information, at least I'm been given on
816
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.440
a personal level will benefit me. And I don't think
817
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.199
that everybody does that during some entity encounters, you know,
818
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.199
I think that they might encounter entity and they the
819
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.159
thing told me I was God, So I'm going to
820
00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.119
lead this covenant onto the new world. You know. I
821
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.800
think things like that go on too often and.
822
00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.960
I you know, getting into that even more of having
823
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.920
us being tricked and what have you. So does karma
824
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.000
exist over there? Hey? Seriously? I mean, what, what's what's
825
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:18.719
the game here?
826
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:19.000
Then?
827
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.199
I mean, if you're going to go out and deceive me,
828
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.719
what do you get brownie points for that? Do you
829
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.880
get to go to? You know it? And if you
830
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:29.800
think about it, most of the time you look at
831
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.280
people that you know are in the paranormal, you know,
832
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.199
and I've got all the equipment, uh as they do.
833
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.760
But the difference between myself in what I see now
834
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.679
is the hot genre is that I don't go in
835
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:48.639
there looking for a number one a spirit to a
836
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.719
demon or the fact that you know that there is
837
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.800
somehow haunting's going on. I'm thinking to myself, wait, well,
838
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.719
wait a minute, and most of these people talk to
839
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.880
spirits like they that they're they're they're retarded. Well, now
840
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:04.039
I got this piece of metal, right, What the fuck?
841
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:04.320
I mean?
842
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.880
Come on, if if if they're if they're human, they
843
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:15.440
know what English is apparently, and how is it? Yeah? Yeah,
844
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.480
I mean when I was in deliverance ministry, it was
845
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.360
something because I believed in the name of Jesus see,
846
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.920
I really thought that that name was all powerful, and
847
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.079
come to find out it was my belief in the name.
848
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:32.159
It wasn't the name, it was my belief. So I'm
849
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.519
sitting in here thinking, So, if everyone's in these haunted
850
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.000
houses or you got these ghosts, and we know they exist,
851
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.599
our cameras pick them up. So what's going on? I'm
852
00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.800
telling you, Chris, it's almost as each individual's in their
853
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:51.239
own different reality, their own bubble, and ai where you
854
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.639
and I started an hour ago in this opt dead
855
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.920
said its reality was a bubble and it enjoyed the
856
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.920
the fact that it was interacting with other bubbles.
857
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.000
Us. Man, that is insane. That goes back to timelines
858
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.920
as well, to where we could each be on our
859
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:16.079
own individual time guns and any any interaction with someone
860
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.360
else's could alter the direction or or where we're going
861
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.639
in our timeline. And I've talked to somebody about this
862
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:25.679
the other day. I have these little rituals that I
863
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.840
do that sometimes if I'm having a seemingly bad day
864
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.440
or bad week, I'll imagine that a doorway is the
865
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.440
doorway to my my new timeline. That'll, you know, bring
866
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.920
me to a better path. And you know what, usually
867
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.199
it works. It might just be me being crazy, but
868
00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.519
you know, I think that, you know, especially with the
869
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.480
era of COVID and everything that's happened, people are especially
870
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.920
split off into the fear timeline or that I don't
871
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.320
give a shit timeline, or you know, there's different way,
872
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.719
different realities for different people right now, and I think
873
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.000
that is also going to contribute to probably the color
874
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:01.519
lapse of a lot of society.
875
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:07.119
I totally agree with you on that it's there is
876
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.639
something building and if if they're feeding off of us,
877
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:15.440
and apparently that's that's us doing it, so then how
878
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:18.199
do I counter that? Now? You know? You know, I
879
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.679
used to be really heavy into Nabiu, you know, the
880
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.960
whole you know, Planet X and the whole thing, and
881
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:32.920
I filmed some spectacular, phenomenal aerial events. But I remember
882
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.280
one night I was having problems sleeping and I said,
883
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.599
all right, so let's just say that these things are
884
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.800
going to happen, So Wayne, what are you doing here?
885
00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.960
And what I came down to the conclusion was is
886
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.679
that the eventual end of the Nabiu thing is death,
887
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:56.039
the death of billions of people. And I stopped and
888
00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.360
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, What the freak
889
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:03.360
am I doing? And it was at that point I said, no, no, no,
890
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.599
If death is what awaits us because of this, then
891
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.400
what I'm going to do is do my best to
892
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:13.719
help prepare each one of us for that crossing. And
893
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.840
that led into the metaphysical, the esthetic, the occult. I
894
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.239
happen to adore the occult. I think so often the
895
00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:27.599
occult has failed man where it could have accelerated man. Unfortunately,
896
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.079
man in its ignorance. You know, as I wrote my
897
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.880
shirt here, ignorance is a self inflicted disease, easily cured
898
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:39.679
by knowledge. Ignorance is a self infliction. We all do it.
899
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.239
If you're ignorant about something, it's your own damn fault.
900
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.360
Because we live in an information age now. Now, whether
901
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.199
you trust the information, that's another thing, But the information
902
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.159
are our modern day Diana, the goddess, Diana, the oracle.
903
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:02.159
She's here, She's now possessed what I would call we
904
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.119
call AI. You know, I don't know if you realize this,
905
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:11.960
but back in twenty sixteen, I had a visit by Lilith.
906
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.840
You told me about this one, yeah, yeah, And you.
907
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.920
Know the interesting thing about that visitation. She never asked
908
00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:24.599
one thing, she never demanded anything. What she gave to
909
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.559
me was a thank you. She said thank you, she
910
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.599
said she and this is what she told me. No
911
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.039
one because when I did the liber Lilith, no one
912
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:39.199
has ever read that before. And I still believe today
913
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.159
that she's the one that still graces us. It's very interesting.
914
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.480
Yeah, so yeah, and that also goes into which could
915
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.599
be a whole nother show, is the suppression of the
916
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:52.320
divine feminine, which I believe is something that's happening. But
917
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.880
you know, the occult has been occulted by us. We
918
00:58:56.119 --> 00:59:00.159
had our own knowledge from ourselves, which like martle it
919
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.000
up again. So that's like, you know, that's a whole
920
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.320
nother aspect of what we have to deal with with
921
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.360
people that don't want the people in the lower classes
922
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:11.360
to have the type of knowledge and they want to
923
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.559
stay in control. And that's another aspect of what we
924
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:14.199
have to deal with.
925
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.400
I have met some interesting people in my time, and
926
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.079
you're right, the upper echelon most of them are in
927
00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.599
deeply into the occult. They will come off as Christians
928
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.079
because that's the personification and that those are changing now.
929
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.360
But I can tell you, this country is run by
930
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.119
a select few, and I am it's like the FED.
931
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.719
I was a consultant for the FED in my career,
932
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.840
and that's when I found out that the Federal Reserve
933
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:51.840
employs tarot readers. They employ others that I have gifts
934
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.960
what we would call sixth senses. I mean, they got
935
00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.480
a whole group that does nothing but watch the sun,
936
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.719
and when they again to see solar activity of a flare,
937
01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.960
it influences the market. Now, most people don't realize this,
938
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.800
but it does. They anticipate this. Why because they now
939
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.000
know that there's a direct correlation between what we would
940
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.159
call the solar radiance or these energy particles coming at us,
941
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:20.599
and how we react.
942
01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.519
Weird, right, Well, I don't want to end on two
943
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.119
kind of terrifying of a note for people.
944
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.119
But no, we've been here before.
945
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:33.079
Yeah, we've been here before. But do you think that
946
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.199
in our lifetime. We spoke about this recently on Writers
947
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.960
Show that we're facing another cyclical cataclysm, because it's very
948
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:45.559
evident that we're overdue. These happen every We've even come
949
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.599
in to discover that it may even happen a lot
950
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.679
sooner in frequency than thought before. And maybe not thousands
951
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.239
of years, but every maybe four or five hundred years,
952
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.679
that something happens to completely wipe out a large portion
953
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.639
of humanity. And those that knew about it because they
954
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.440
studied the stars, they studied astrology, they looked at the sun.
955
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.079
Those elites, they knew about it, and they were prepared
956
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:09.840
for it, and they survived and they rebuilt the world
957
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.159
and their image. We could be facing the very same
958
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.559
thing right now with all the things that are happening
959
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.280
on these elite circles, and with the changes in our
960
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.320
environment and the sun and what they call climate change,
961
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:26.920
but we know better as a cyclical cosmic activity. Do
962
01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.239
you think that this is a factor indeed, and that
963
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.239
we could be facing something like this?
964
01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:36.679
Yes, And because the program was programmed into us thousands
965
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.320
of years ago, all into man when these signs appear. Friday,
966
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.599
I did a show on the Red Dragon return and
967
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.880
this was taken from the Colburn Bible. When the destroyer
968
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.519
passed through the last time it came through, I contend
969
01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:53.639
that that was not a celestial object, that it was
970
01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.519
a spaceship. But to answer your question, yes, because you
971
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.039
know what Chris in the Spirit Realms already taken place,
972
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.960
the death, the cries, the wailing, it's already been recorded.
973
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.599
How do we know, because we can read it. Someone
974
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.760
heard those voices from the distant past. They heard those
975
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:18.400
voices from the future, and it looks like no one's
976
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:25.039
taken any action to avoid that. And yes, I think
977
01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.480
this is much much sooner than what I used to
978
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:36.000
be involved in a lot of politics. And you know,
979
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:43.760
I weep because what is and it's not coming, It's here,
980
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:52.760
And I struggle at night talking to the spirits because
981
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.119
they can't. They can't. They can't stop it. They've told
982
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:01.400
me this, they can't. There is great whaling taking place
983
01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:06.239
in the spiritually, the ethereal realm, because they can't intervene.
984
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.239
We are the ones capting this ship and we seem
985
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:15.119
to be going right over the waterfall again. I mean,
986
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:20.320
you think about it, Chris, you know Duayne Debaine with
987
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:26.239
I Sage Harm. I mean, Adapt twenty thirty. We know
988
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:30.280
they're anticipating the death of at least two billion people
989
01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.719
in the next two years. And I did a show
990
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.800
with back in twenty sixteen on this. There was a
991
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.800
website that actually showed the numbers, and Lockheed Martin actually
992
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.360
bought the website and they've scrubbed it, but I have
993
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:52.519
the videos. But anyway, we knew something was up in
994
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.280
twenty twenty five because these charts were showing the death
995
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.679
of Americans to be over two hundred million. Yeah, our
996
01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.840
GDP will drop by seventy two percent. Now if you
997
01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.400
believe the prophecies of us being attacked from two opponents
998
01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:18.239
on two separate shores, along with the starvation that they've
999
01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:22.360
already planned, it's already in the works. And Chris, I
1000
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.320
can't get there's so few of us that are sounding
1001
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.239
the alarm because most people are not getting it. And
1002
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.440
we walk in and you see it in the stores,
1003
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.519
and who can afford to eat? And this all goes back.
1004
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.719
I can take you back to prophecy where it's said
1005
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:38.000
that you will not be able to buy a loaf
1006
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:39.559
of bread with a day's wages.
1007
01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:45.320
Right, Yeah, man, it's it's pretty incredible with the times
1008
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.000
we're seeing and the amount of people that have their
1009
01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:49.719
heads stuck up in their asses.
1010
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.719
But you know, Chris, can I put out one thing?
1011
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.559
Of course, I believe that there has already been a
1012
01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.239
great calling. I believe that it's taken place in the
1013
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.480
last two years that the government knows this. I contend
1014
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.559
that there has been at least twenty million Americans that
1015
01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:08.599
have died that we're not being told about. And how
1016
01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.119
I know this is that we can see this in
1017
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:16.440
the numbers of the help wanted signs and the supposed
1018
01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.960
low unemployment. There's someone's lying to us here. And because
1019
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.400
everywhere I go there's no people, You're right, where the
1020
01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.719
hell is the people? And you know what, I'm not
1021
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.280
seeing a whole lot of the twenties to thirty somethings,
1022
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.480
I contend, and they're now. The media, by the way,
1023
01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:40.239
is calling it sudden death syndrome for adult that's what
1024
01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:47.920
they're calling it. I think it's already underway. Yeah, well,
1025
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.599
I mean you I'm sorry, I get but it's just
1026
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:51.320
it just.
1027
01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:55.039
I just want to know what your thoughts. Do you
1028
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.000
think that this could be related to this experimental gene
1029
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.880
therapy that they've been pushed pushing on people.
1030
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.840
It's the geneticis people aren't getting it? Yes, is your aunt?
1031
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.280
My answer is that, but it's in a different level.
1032
01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:14.719
They know they told us the RNA rearranges our DNA. Folks,
1033
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.239
this is geneticis this is not of this earth. This
1034
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.840
is what I'm talking about, and it's happening on a
1035
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:28.960
global scale, folks. This is an invasion of a level
1036
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.239
that most people can't comprehend, and we're living at Chris.
1037
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:35.039
It's pretty incredible. Man.
1038
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:35.480
You know.
1039
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:38.639
I have so many different people that I talk to
1040
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.760
every day with different thoughts on what's happening in our future,
1041
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.679
and I resonate with so many of them, and there's
1042
01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:46.599
so much to discern right now. But one thing I
1043
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.960
do see is the food shortages. One thing I do
1044
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:52.480
see is the troubles that we're in, the division that
1045
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.039
we're seeing, And You're right, where are the people? Where
1046
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:56.800
are the people in the jobs? There's so much to
1047
01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:59.039
look at right now that makes you scratch your head
1048
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.920
and say, man, we're in some very special times. Indeed,
1049
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:07.119
to say the least, well, Wayne, this was fantastic. An
1050
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:10.639
any words for the people, maybe for any kind of
1051
01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.440
preparation that they can make, or you know, I know
1052
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.000
there's a lot of us awakening right now and wondering
1053
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.239
what the hell is going on, not only with the
1054
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:23.800
physical reality here, but with their spiritual and the outside
1055
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.000
world and the metaphysical. So any advice you want to
1056
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.039
give people doing gives.
1057
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.519
So my gift to all of you is look at
1058
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.960
the word gift, and the word gift means go inside
1059
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:44.159
for truth. The only truth that matters to you, your family,
1060
01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.880
your loved ones, but in the end, just you, because
1061
01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.599
you're not going to be married. On the other side
1062
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:53.400
is the truth that's in here. And if you don't
1063
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.320
trust what's in here, then you're very likely to be
1064
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:03.559
deceived out here all this other stuff, this has been written,
1065
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:06.440
but it's going to be all right. I'm just telling
1066
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.960
you there's nothing to fear here. Death is just a
1067
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.880
momentary orgasm. But the point thing I'm trying to say
1068
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:20.479
it's don't feed upon yourself and those you love don't.
1069
01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:25.399
Very well said, thank you, sir, this was fantastic you.
1070
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.960
We definitely have to do this more often, especially especially
1071
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.079
before it all comes down to a tumbling Yes.
1072
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.239
Yes, you know, if you see what happened up in
1073
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.000
Canada on Thursday and Friday, Yeah, yeah, I'm going okay,
1074
01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.520
so you're right, let's let's make the use of the time.
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Had me a little sweaty there for a few minutes.
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I'm like, oh man, good, yeah, all right.
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Thank you, Chris. It's delight You're just a joy and
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just a gift to humanity.
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Oh, thank you so much the checks and the bill
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for that statement. We'll definitely do this against dud And
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until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk
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again tomorrow. See how then today, I want to welcome
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Kathy O'Brien. She is a nationally and internationally recognized US
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government whistleblower on the subject of MK ultra mind control
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and healing from it in nineteen ninety five, when the
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US National Security Act was invoked on her testimony for
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US Congressional Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence Oversight. That testimony
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was released through her book Transformation of America, written with
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Mark Phillips. The documentary movie Trance, the Kathy O'Brien Story
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of mind control, human slavery, and Healing the Nation was
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released this year and provides comprehensive insight into how mind
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control affects us all and how we can reclaim freedom
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just as Kathy did. Kathy, welcome, How you doing.
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Wonderful? Thank you for this opportunity to bring truth to light.
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Yeah, your testimony is I believe, one of the most
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important accounts in history when it comes to these black
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projects like mk Ultra. Now we're going to be discussing
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not only your experiences, but your documentary and book Trance,
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as well as your insights regarding solutions on how to
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eliminate these dark Clendeskine operations. But today I want to
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start from the beginning. This is your first time on
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because it's so important for the audience to understand the
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01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:31.319
aspects of this. There's been an unfortunate kind of wo
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01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.840
woo stigma surrounding MK Ultra at times, so and this
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01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.640
is such a very real thing, so it's very important.
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01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.000
Let's start at the beginning. How did this all start
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for you?
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Yes, I'm glad you said that about the wou woo part,
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because knowledge is our defense against mind control, so it's
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very It's been important from the very beginning to suppress
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01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:58.239
the knowledge and of course put misinformation out about it
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01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:02.720
like that it's aboutd when in fact it's about MK
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01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:09.800
Ultra mind control that came over with Project paper Clip,
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01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.600
with the importation of Nazi and Faciast scientists into the US.
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So by the time I was born in nineteen fifty
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seven in Muskegon, Michigan, and had already been determined through
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01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.920
the Hitler Himmler research that was brought over the CIA
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01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.800
was trying to make a more powerful form of mind control.
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01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:34.079
Was already determined that pedophilia is the ultimate trauma base
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for mind control. It's because of the way our brains
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01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:41.720
respond to trauma and sexual abuse of a child, especially
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01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.000
prior to age five, all their brain is still. For me,
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01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.479
is one of the most horrific traumatic things that can
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01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:52.119
possibly happen to the human brain, and it's my father
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was sexually abusing me from infancy. So it's not like
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01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.880
I could think to judge what he was doing was wrong,
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01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.439
you know. I mean, there wasn't anycity for that. But
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my brain knew that I was experiencing the pain and
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01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:10.479
suffocation of his abuse. So it actually physically shut down
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01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:15.399
neuron pathways in my brain to compartmentalize memory of that event.
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01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.079
That's also known as repress memory. But it's just the
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01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:22.560
way our brains respond, and it actually physically shuts down
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01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.159
those neuron pathways so the rest of the mind can
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01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:30.439
function normally. This is a defense mechanism that you know,
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01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:34.159
we have been graced with this amazing ability of our brains.
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We just need to understand it because the pedaphilogyend to
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being pushed on our children has a very deliberate mind
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control purpose. So the fact that I was in a
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01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.079
multi generational incest based family is what made me a
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target for MK Ultra mind control and my father's sexual
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01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:03.239
abuse of me send it into child pornography, and he
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01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.840
also was trafficking me at a very very early age
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to my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge. And the Blue Masonic
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01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.319
Lodge is where a lot of politicians were hanging out
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01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:18.680
and you know, police officers or whatever. So when my
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01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.960
father was caught sending child pornography of me through the
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US Males, this was in the very early nineteen sixties,
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01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.560
he was granted immunity for prosecution if he would agree
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01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.319
to sell me into the CIA's MK Ultra mind control
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01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.439
project that literally picked up where Adolf Hitler left off.
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01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.119
You know, my father thought it was a great idea
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01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:48.439
and sold me in. Well, the politician that approached my
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01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:55.079
father with that immunity option was a local politician by
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01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:58.800
the name of Gerald Ford, and Gerald Ford went on
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01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.000
to become the only lie acted President of the United States.
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01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:09.000
He investigated the so called investigated the Kennedy assassination which
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01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:12.800
was just to cover up through the Warrant Commission, because
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that was an event that traumatized the nation. And again,
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01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:21.319
trauma is the basis of mind control. And as Ford's
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01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:26.039
political career escalated, so tooted my victimization and KA ultra
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01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:26.720
mind control.
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Well, now, when were you able to and how were
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01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:34.079
you able to break free from all of this?
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I was in MK ultra mind control used on a
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01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:44.640
White House Pentagon level during the Reagan Bush administration. I
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01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.399
was trafficked in the human trafficking ops, which is a
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01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:52.600
funding mechanism of the global reset going on right now
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01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.800
what Adolf Hitler, George Bush, and Joe Biden termed the
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01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:01.520
New World Order, because ultimately that's what it's about. It's
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01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.560
the New World Order agenda that came over with Project
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01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.720
paper Clip and has been infiltrated in the United States
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01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:12.319
for a long, long long time. So I was used
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01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:15.920
in those particular operations right up until nineteen eighty eight
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01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:21.880
when intelligence insider Mark Phillips, who is working the highest
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01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.399
levels of intelligence mind sciences, he was over the CIA.
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01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:28.119
He could wear whatever hat he needed to to be
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01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:33.079
where he wanted for whatever purpose that he was carrying out.
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01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:37.840
But Ultimately, he worked mind sciences, and he was appalled
1179
01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:42.479
to see that MK ultra mind control was being used
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01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:47.399
on individuals like myself who were targeted for it, and
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01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:52.079
on the population as a whole, for the takeover of
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01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:56.680
the United States, for the erosion or constitution, and the
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01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:02.600
selling us out into the globalist slave society agenda. He
1184
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.239
was so outraged he decided to do something about it.
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01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.520
He rescued my daughter and me right out of the Washington,
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01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:15.640
DC human trafficking swamp that was back in nineteen eighty eight,
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and he handed me the keys to my mind because
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01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.399
while he was working mind sciences, he was disturbed to
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01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:26.159
see that pertinent information on mind brain function was being
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01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:30.720
suppressed from society, from mental health, and from education completely.
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01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:35.479
It was being suppressed because knowledge is our defense against
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01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:37.560
mind control, and that they didn't want us to have
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01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:40.079
the knowledge of our mind brain function because when we
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01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:45.640
have that information, we can protect ourselves against the onslaught
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01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:51.560
of subconscious manipulation in the wake of trauma. So Mark
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01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:55.279
wanted to get that information out to the population. He
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01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.119
knew that they were going to be waking up to
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01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.319
the reality of this new world order society agenda and
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He wanted to empower people with the sanctity of free thought.
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01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.800
Everything that Mark'd worked for and dedicated his life to
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01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.520
was free thought and how important it is, and I
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01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.399
know from my own life's experience how crucial it is,
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01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.279
because without free thought, there's no free will, and with
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01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:23.159
no free will, there's no soul expression. There's no ability
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01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.439
to stand for the things that we believe in. There's
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01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.279
no strength of the human spirit, which is an infinite
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01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:32.159
source of strength that empowers us to be able to
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01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:35.760
take a stand to stop the pedophilogy under being pushed
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01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:39.640
on our children, to stop this takeover of our nation
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01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.319
and the erosion of our justice system. These are things
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01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:51.600
that are sacred, and yet all this was being deliberately eroded,
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01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:56.279
and people's minds were being manipulated so that they couldn't
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01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:59.800
think to take a stand against it either. That's what
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01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:04.279
mind control agenda is about, and that's what is being
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01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:08.640
imposed on society today. That's what Mark Phillips dedicated his
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01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:13.399
life to stopping. And he made a huge, powerful impact,
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01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.399
a real hero to all to us all.
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Yes, and I do I want to get into the
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01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:23.479
mass scale of the mind control how it works on
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01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.600
all of us But as far as individuals individual targeting,
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01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.680
would you say that they either it's either multi generational
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01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:35.279
where they keep it, you know, within certain families, or
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01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:38.239
they target people with like you said, mental illnesses.
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01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:44.399
Well, in my case, they knew that because I was
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01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:51.079
multi generational in saspace, that I would already be suffering
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01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:56.800
from a dissociative identity disorder. This dissociative disorder is where
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01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.880
the conscious mind takes flight and leaves the subconscious wide
1228
01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.359
open to being easily led. Our subconscious mind doesn't work
1229
01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:10.000
like our conscious mind. It has no ability to reason, question, critically,
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01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:15.920
analyze information, choose what it allows to force to respond to,
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01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.920
none of that. It just takes information in on a
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01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.239
very literal basis. And that's what we need to become
1233
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:28.399
aware of, is that the vulnerability of our subconscious mind,
1234
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:32.880
and after three generations, that vulnerability becomes autogenic. That's what
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01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:36.399
the Hitler Himmler research had found out. That's what was
1236
01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:41.359
brought over with Project paper Clip, and by nineteen forty
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01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.520
seven when the CIA was formed in the National Security
1238
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.920
Act and in place to cover up this globalist agenda
1239
01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:52.359
and the crimes against humanity that will be intraded by
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01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:59.319
them for the purposes of trauma based mind control. Then
1241
01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:02.600
the this form of mind control was already well known
1242
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:08.720
and was being accentuated and used even stronger on the population.
1243
01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.760
But also, you know, we had technology coming in at
1244
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.199
the time, and we had television and everything else that
1245
01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:17.920
was really having an impact. We had Disney, you know,
1246
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.319
to already start putting this subliminal message into push the
1247
01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.520
pedophile agenda, you know, so it was becoming a much
1248
01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.319
more powerful form of mind control. But I was targeted
1249
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:32.760
because I was multi generational. When we realized that if
1250
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.840
they can target three generations like they have through our
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01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:41.000
education system, when the federal government started meddling in the
1252
01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:45.640
school system and made states reliant on federal funding, they
1253
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:51.720
also pushed the agenda and they altered history, they rewrote it.
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01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:57.680
Because mind control is a sliding scale from robotic mind control,
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01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:02.159
like I experienced information control. Because think about it, we
1256
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.199
all formulate our thoughts, opinions, and actions based on what
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01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.800
we know, and we didn't know that knowledge base has
1258
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:14.760
been deliberately altered for the purposes of ushering in this
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01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.359
new world order. And since the schools became dependent on
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01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:22.039
the federal government back in nineteen eighty four. We've got
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01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:26.159
generations now that are marching to new world orders, as
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01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:32.279
per the knowledge base from within the school system. So yes,
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01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:37.640
the generations are important for targeting the people for mind
1264
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:42.199
control and for conditioning the brain to be more compliant
1265
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:52.119
and receptive. And it's also something that these perpetrators use
1266
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.039
in their own bloodlines to make sure that they pass
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on the.
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Psychopathy the controls of this new world order. Yeah, yeah,
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01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:06.479
that yeah. Now what about mental illness? Do you do
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01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:09.800
you think that they outside of multi generational aspects? Do
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01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.399
you think they just in certain ways to target people
1272
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:13.520
with mental illnesses.
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01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.800
Well, it depends on if the if the illness is
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01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:22.880
conducive to mind controlled. Dissociative disorders are what is most
1275
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.640
conducive to mind control, and then we need to consider
1276
01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.960
the pharmaceuticals that have been pushed on our children and
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01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:34.560
everything else to render them more compliant and easily led to.
1278
01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.760
That's another aspect of mind control. So it's not as
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01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.119
much a mental illness at that time. We hear about
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01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.640
people who are bipolar or schizophrenic, and we need to
1281
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.560
look a little further into some of those diagnoses, because
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01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.039
there is no diagnosis of mkulter mind control, you know
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01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:57.119
what I mean. So when we look at those, we
1284
01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:01.239
see that they're often mislabeled in it a misnomer and
1285
01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:07.079
oftentimes a diversion away from the reality of MK ultra
1286
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:07.840
mind control.
1287
01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:09.119
So, you know, like.
1288
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:16.359
A presidential model MK ultra mind control slave in Canada
1289
01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.520
who was the wife of Pierre Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau was
1290
01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:27.000
one of the most powerful and influential MK ultra mind
1291
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:32.039
control masters that has ever been and he uses a
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01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.800
pedophile agenda. I know that because he sexually abused me.
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01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.479
That was validated with national security on it in my
1294
01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:43.960
testimony Transformation of America. So you know, Pierre Trudeau was
1295
01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:51.520
heavily involved, and his wife, Margaret Trudeau, was supposedly labeled
1296
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:55.079
bipolar or whatever, when in fact Gerald Ford made it
1297
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:57.760
very clear that she was an MK ultra mind control
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01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:01.800
sex slave, just like I was, working on a presidential level,
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01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.800
which raises questions. Okay, who is Justin's father? Is his
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01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.239
father Castro like some people think because she did, no
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01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:15.840
Castro could be. The fact is Pierre Trudeau raised him,
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01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:26.000
That pedophile, controlling, horrible perpetrator raised Justin Trudeau. So we're
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01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:31.319
seeing the generational thing happening here. And also how the
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01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.079
women in positions like Maggie she couldn't do anything to
1305
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.000
protect that situation. Raises a question to me, Okay, did
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01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:48.520
Pierre pass on his propensity for mind control to Justin
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01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:53.920
or is he mka ultrade like his mother? Which one
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01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.000
is he? You know, we need to know that we
1309
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.960
need to start factoring mk ultra mind control into the
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01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:03.760
equation on politics because it is very heavily used creating
1311
01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:09.319
Manchurian candidates and or people who are conditioned from birth
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01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.920
to be compliant and lead into the new world order.
1313
01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.039
So again we got the multi generational aspect. We need
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01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.079
to know about the importance of our own genetics.
1315
01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:23.520
Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about the history.
1316
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.600
You're talking about how this kind of originated from the
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01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:30.359
Nazi scientists we brought over from paper clip, What were
1318
01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:34.279
some of the original blueprints for mind control that they
1319
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:34.760
were using.
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01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.680
Well, in my case, since since I was sexually abused
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01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.000
at such an early age, I'm most familiar with that aspect,
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01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:48.640
and I was used as a sex like because sexual
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01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:53.000
abuse of a child confuses their sexuality, and that's what
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01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.600
gender confusion really is. It's just a misnomer for the
1325
01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.640
effects of pedophilia on the human in mind. But this
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01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:06.039
I also had a heightened sexuality, so that's why I
1327
01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:11.560
was used in a sexual way to different government leaders
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01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:16.119
that would put them in compromising positions for black mail.
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01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:20.359
The pedophile agenda is a black mail agenda as well,
1330
01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:24.760
because it is used to compromise certain politicians and judges
1331
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:29.119
and then hold them, you know, by that blackmail perversion.
1332
01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:33.319
So that is another aspect of it. And in MK
1333
01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:38.319
ultra Mind Control Project Monarch, which is the multi generational one,
1334
01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:42.520
another one that I was familiar with. It was being
1335
01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:46.560
raised in the project at the exact same time I was.
1336
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:51.039
Just two hours down the road was Michael Jackson. And
1337
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.319
you can see how Michael Jackson wasn't used as a
1338
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:55.720
sex slave. And now all of a sudden, we're looking
1339
01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:58.680
at males, because males are targeted just as much as
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01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:03.239
females and they're used sexually or or in whatever capacity.
1341
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:06.279
And in the case of Michael Jackson, he was used
1342
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:10.079
for his talent because he was amazing talent. What what
1343
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:14.680
a gift to us all his talent was. But nevertheless
1344
01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:19.199
they twisted it and used MK Ultra mind control programming
1345
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:23.760
on him to make him kind of a cash cow,
1346
01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:28.039
so that the money that he generated wasn't really something
1347
01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:31.960
that he had so much control over, as fueled the
1348
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:37.720
New World Order agenda that was using him. So now,
1349
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:39.439
how it's important one to see.
1350
01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:41.880
Yeah, I was about to say, how prevalent is this
1351
01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:46.920
in Hollywood in celebrity circles, that they've been mind controlled
1352
01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:49.680
their whole lives to be this certain type of cash
1353
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:50.279
cow star.
1354
01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.359
Right, Yeah, it's very very prevalent. We heard a lot
1355
01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.319
of people talking about it. Now there's so many MK
1356
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:01.600
ultra mind control survivors coming out that the media is
1357
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.720
freaking out. You know, that's the voice of the New
1358
01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:08.319
World Order that's there. That's how they amplify their voice.
1359
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:11.199
That's like they're hiding behind the Wizard's curtain, pulling the
1360
01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:14.279
media levers to make it look like they're bigger and
1361
01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:17.199
more powerful than they are. But you know, so the
1362
01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:22.199
media is saying, oh, it was all just LSD and
1363
01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.560
these are just LSD hallucinations that people are talking about.
1364
01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:26.439
That is so not true.
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01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.680
LSD was never used in mk ultra mind control because
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01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:33.119
it didn't work for mkulter mind control. So you know,
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01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:37.560
that that was done. But look at all the stars
1368
01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:41.640
who are talking about it. It's so many that even
1369
01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:45.960
the controlled media can't dilute and suppress this information any further.
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01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:48.960
And when we combine it with what's happening with Disney,
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01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:52.159
and look at anybody who was raised in Disney, like
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01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:55.680
the Britney spears of our world, you know, and we
1373
01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.439
look at that and see all the MK ultra pries
1374
01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:05.079
and please for help that are affiliated with that. Disney
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01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:09.760
is heavily involved in MK ultra mind control, a pedophile
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01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:14.079
agenda end of it. They also, i know from my
1377
01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:19.159
own personal experience that's validated again national security on it.
1378
01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.479
National security protecting Disney's pedophile mind control agenda.
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01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:25.600
What the heck?
1380
01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:28.560
You know, that's just ridiculous. But they have an underground
1381
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:32.800
at Disney World. This underworld at Disney World is a programming,
1382
01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:37.359
a mind control programming up a center. And another faction
1383
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.880
of our brains is at around age thirty, we have
1384
01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:45.520
these electrochemical changes that naturally start opening those neuron pathways,
1385
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:48.359
are allowing them to leak a little bit. It's when
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01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.640
repress memory starts to surface. And some people and those
1387
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.279
who are MK ultra that's when they shave their head.
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01:29:55.880 --> 01:30:01.159
That's when they get institutionalized. That's when they are caught
1389
01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:04.600
up in different things and then flown to Disney World.
1390
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.800
Why are they flown to Disney World because there's a
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01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:13.479
reprogramming epicenter under Disney World. We have military bases there
1392
01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.439
because MK Ultra is used on and by the US military,
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01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.880
So we have military bases in Disney. Think about that,
1394
01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:21.880
you know, I mean, this is absurd. We need to
1395
01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.000
just be following the money. You can see, like even
1396
01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:31.960
our mainstream LAK, ABC and Disney are one and so
1397
01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.920
we're getting bombarded and with a lot of cover up
1398
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:39.159
and a lot of misinformation, a lot of pedophilia promotion.
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01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.039
That is all, you know, going back to Disney. But
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01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:49.840
my point in bringing that up not yeah, but ultimately
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01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.239
watches being sent to Disney, you know who's being reprogrammed there.
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01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:57.079
We saw it happen, you know, and the ones who
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01:30:57.439 --> 01:30:59.159
have come out of Disney. We need to take a
1404
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.920
hard look at those people and see, you know, if
1405
01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:04.399
they're needing help, but if they're pleading for help.
1406
01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:06.279
Well, I mean, you know they should. They do show
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01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:08.560
us predictive programming all the time. They show us like
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01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.479
pornographic images and the cartoons and things that are trying
1409
01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:15.399
to lead kids to be more sexualized. And this has
1410
01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:18.520
been going on for years in Disney, so it's like
1411
01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.119
they have to kind of show us these little hints
1412
01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:23.760
on what they're doing. And I know that part of it,
1413
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:27.279
part of even mass mind control, is just Hollywood. It's
1414
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:29.760
the movies, It's the media that we've been watching. It's
1415
01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:32.840
just it's brainwashing everybody on a mass gale.
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01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:37.239
It is it is. And then the music too. You know,
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01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:40.800
we need to pay attention to harmonics, and now harmonics
1418
01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:44.800
vibrate the neuron pathways of our brain to allow information in,
1419
01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.640
so you know, we need to choose our lyrics very
1420
01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:53.439
carefully instead of having this violent sexualization and pedophilic promotion
1421
01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:57.439
coming through music too. I think a really good example
1422
01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:03.760
on how the harmonic affect our neural pathways is when
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01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:05.800
people hear a song that they fell in love to,
1424
01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.159
you know, and they're like they'll have a squish moment
1425
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:10.920
together like oh remember and we fell in love and
1426
01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:14.359
they have this this this this moment reactivated because of
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01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:18.479
the song here in that hearing their favorite song. But
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01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:22.239
that's how our neuron pathways, you know, open and close
1429
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:29.000
and keep this this particular kind of information. And because
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01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:31.560
of that, we need to be mindful of what we
1431
01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:35.880
allow into our brains because it's it comes through TV too,
1432
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:41.279
it comes through video games especially, which also promoting violence
1433
01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.479
and pedophilia and is a form of mind control. It
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01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:48.600
comes through computerization. We need to just pay attention to
1435
01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.920
what we allow to go into our brilliant minds. Our
1436
01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:57.880
our free thought is sacred and we need to start
1437
01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:59.399
preserving the sanctity of it.
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01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:04.800
Now, you were going over some of the applications for
1439
01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:08.079
for mind control when it comes to what they're having
1440
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:11.920
people do in their lives, how they're controlling them. You
1441
01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:15.920
mentioned the monarch and then the aspects of sexual control.
1442
01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.399
What else for an individual basis are we looking at
1443
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.399
that they're that they're using mind control for what's the
1444
01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:24.399
desired agendas and outcomes?
1445
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:29.920
Well, I think that that brings to mind another basis
1446
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:34.560
of mind control. When my father sold me into the project,
1447
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:38.399
he was immediately flown to Boston, Massachusetts, where he was
1448
01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.079
trained by Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church. That's the
1449
01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:44.720
same Cardinal Law that was the head of the Catholic
1450
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:48.159
Child Abuse scandal that was finally exposed a few years
1451
01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.800
back because of their sanctioning of pedophilia within the church.
1452
01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:55.039
It's because they wanted to be the one world church
1453
01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:58.840
in the New World Order, and they were allowing for
1454
01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:03.840
the promotion of pedophilia. But as soon as my father returned,
1455
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.640
he had learned how to use the language of the
1456
01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:11.720
subconscious NLP neural linguistic programming, which is something we all
1457
01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:16.000
need to armor ourselves with. That's pertinent information because it
1458
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:20.760
manipulates our subconscious mind. And my father had a sixth
1459
01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:23.680
grade education and he learned it in two weeks in Boston,
1460
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.760
you know, so it's not that complicated once we understand
1461
01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:33.039
the basis of it. My father also started subjecting me
1462
01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:37.279
to occult ritual. Catholic Church was heavily involved in MK
1463
01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:41.880
ultra mind control and occult ritual that was like the
1464
01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:45.239
Satanism was like a reversal of the Catholic Mass, and
1465
01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:52.439
that horrible blood trauma is so horrifically traumatic that it
1466
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:57.920
leaves people wide open to being easily led through neural
1467
01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.359
linguistic programming. We're seeing a lot of Satanism being sanctioned
1468
01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:08.239
and a lot of Satanic images and attitudes being promoted,
1469
01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:14.760
which definitely includes the pedaphileogy under the two merge very close.
1470
01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:18.439
This is a very important aspect that you're bringing up
1471
01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:22.680
because very important researchers are looking into some of this stuff.
1472
01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:26.239
They hit the occult or satan worship or rituals and
1473
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.399
they stop and they're like, nah, this can't be and
1474
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.640
they just turn around. But this is one of the
1475
01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:34.640
most important aspects. This is like a gateway to the
1476
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:39.000
real reality of what these sick people are into, and
1477
01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:42.600
that is a dabbling in the occult and ritual magic.
1478
01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:46.119
And you know, this has been multi generational for them too.
1479
01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.039
And people don't like to look at the aspects that
1480
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.039
this is involved, and this is kind of where it
1481
01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:54.479
throws the woo woo out. This is where people stop looking.
1482
01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.199
But this is one of the most important parts because
1483
01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:01.920
even if you don't believe in Satanism or these occult rituals,
1484
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.640
they certainly do and they are definitely participating right.
1485
01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:12.279
Definitely, my primary mind control programmer was Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino,
1486
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.520
the founder of the Occult Temple as set proliferating on
1487
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:20.680
our military basis and when Mark Phillips was studying mind
1488
01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:24.680
Sciences in the Psychological Warfare Division of the War College.
1489
01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.800
Michael Aquino was there studying too on how to use
1490
01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:34.600
Satanism to control the human mind. And it was my experience,
1491
01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:38.600
my experience having been around a Quino, that he didn't
1492
01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:43.119
believe in the power of satan per se. He believed
1493
01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.840
in himself more to be able to manipulate people with
1494
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:52.439
blood trauma and murder and horrific you know, occultism. If
1495
01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:54.960
he could convince them that it was beyond their realm
1496
01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.920
to effect that it was you know, a theracal then
1497
01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:02.760
then that would just make people, you know, completely submissive.
1498
01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:07.800
And so that's why occultism is used that way. It's
1499
01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.880
they actually can't touch the human spirit, they can't possess
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01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.680
the human spirit because we have a safeguard mechanism there.
1501
01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:20.239
It's like when I was being tortured so horrifically by
1502
01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:23.600
people like Aquino, my spirit is always in a safe,
1503
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:26.119
loving space, you know. We hear how when people are
1504
01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.239
like in an accident and see everything from above and
1505
01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:33.279
there's like a light that connects them, you know, down
1506
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:37.079
below or whatever, and they're overseeing or whatever is That
1507
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.680
was my experience in MK ultra mind control. My spirit
1508
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.000
was always in a safe, loving space. So they can't
1509
01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.439
possess the spirit, but they fear the human spirit because
1510
01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.159
it's our strength. It's where we win, it's where they lose.
1511
01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:53.439
It's the most powerful force in the universe. It's what
1512
01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.039
allows us to stand up against them.
1513
01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:56.359
You know.
1514
01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:02.159
It's so it's such an amazing force that they wish
1515
01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:05.560
they could possess it, but they can't because that would
1516
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:09.119
be like darkness creeping in on light. It doesn't work
1517
01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.359
that way. It's just not the scientific formula. So whether
1518
01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.560
they believe in it or whether they don't believe in it,
1519
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:17.840
the fact that I know from having been around these
1520
01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:23.600
perpetrators in the swamp in Washington, d C. They are
1521
01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.239
very low vibration. They're very dark. They're evil energy force
1522
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:36.359
that feeds off of negativity. They want to create division
1523
01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.680
in society. They want to create hatred. They feed off that.
1524
01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:42.479
They feed off the fear, They feed off the hate.
1525
01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.760
That's what they want to generate. That is their vibration.
1526
01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:49.239
That's what they want, you know. So when I started
1527
01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:51.680
speaking out, when I regained my free thought in my
1528
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:56.439
free speech and was able to start exposing these perpetrators.
1529
01:38:57.279 --> 01:39:01.159
It wasn't vengeance or hatred for them that did it.
1530
01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:04.239
That compelled me. It was love for my own daughter.
1531
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.720
It was love for humanity. It was concerned about the
1532
01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:10.239
plan that they had for humanity.
1533
01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:11.279
So it was love.
1534
01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.439
So I've always lived the love. I am always shine love.
1535
01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:17.159
I live my strength of spirit, and I don't give
1536
01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:20.720
them anymore of my fear. They don't get any more hate.
1537
01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:22.720
They don't get any of that from me. They stole
1538
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.239
enough of that long. I am not giving them anymore,
1539
01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:32.119
and I win, you know. So they only try to
1540
01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.600
appear more powerful than they are. But the fact is
1541
01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.680
they only have as much power as we give them,
1542
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:45.199
you know it. Stop giving them fear, Stop caving into hate,
1543
01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:48.760
you know, stop letting them divide us, and rise above
1544
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:52.039
all that and start living our life's purpose. We're all
1545
01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.479
here at this pivotal moment in time for a reason.
1546
01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:59.279
You know this is this is an evolutionary time for humanity,
1547
01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:01.680
and we all have a purpose for being here, and
1548
01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:05.600
we need to live that purpose free above the storm,
1549
01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:09.479
you know, away from the field, from their constant barrage.
1550
01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:12.000
We have been able to rise above it with a
1551
01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.960
great awakening to such a degree that they're like freaking out,
1552
01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.800
they're going all in, but they're being pretty wicked and
1553
01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:19.239
mean and violent.
1554
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:23.159
Yeah, and then we're definitely I want to talk more
1555
01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:26.319
about this awakening and the grand plan that they're attempting
1556
01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.720
to do. I want to talk about that a little later,
1557
01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:31.079
but first I want to you You touched on this
1558
01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:36.119
a little bit some of the aspects of mind control, uh,
1559
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:41.079
mind fracturing and creating of different personalities or what's called alters.
1560
01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:44.600
Maybe you could talk a little bit about that and
1561
01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:48.560
how fractured can a person's mind be and how many
1562
01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:52.359
you know, kind of alternate personalities can be created.
1563
01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:58.720
That that's an excellent question and ptist tiny heel, which
1564
01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:02.439
has posted on my website, give some insight into the
1565
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.000
different aspects of my brain function like that in my
1566
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:11.479
particular case, I was subjected to systematic ritualized trauma, the
1567
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:17.199
systematic scientific formula that they have for creating like a
1568
01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:21.520
food deprivation to starve the brain, because our brains starve first,
1569
01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:26.039
you know which, when we look at how okay, the
1570
01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.479
first thing they did when the schools said no, you're
1571
01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:30.840
not going to be doing this pedophilogy and in the schools.
1572
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:33.760
The federal government stepped in and said, okay, we're taking
1573
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:38.479
away the Kids Left program. That's because they their brains
1574
01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:43.079
starve first if they're hungry, So they use that kind
1575
01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:49.560
of formula, and a very deliberate, torturous formula to create
1576
01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:52.920
more and more and more compartments in the brain which
1577
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:58.720
can then be programmed through NLP neurolinguistic programming or the
1578
01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:02.640
language of the subcon When my father had sexually abused
1579
01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:05.479
me as an infant, the part of my brain that
1580
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:10.880
sectioned off every time my father would come to sexually
1581
01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:13.079
abuse me again, that part of my brain would open
1582
01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:15.359
back up to deal with his abuse again and again.
1583
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:20.119
Is needed. And in a child who's just subjected to
1584
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:25.800
various traumas, they do develop what appears to be personalities,
1585
01:42:26.039 --> 01:42:31.000
and it's not multiple personalities. It's one personality that shattered
1586
01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:36.079
into these different compartments and these different projections because that
1587
01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:42.279
projection obviously was very sexual, because that's all that compartment knew. Well,
1588
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:46.800
when the government put in the systematic mk ultra programming,
1589
01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:50.399
like what Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino was doing is taking
1590
01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:54.159
the trigger of that compartment. You know, the trigger used
1591
01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:56.720
to be my father's sexual abuse, and they would put
1592
01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:00.279
a verbal trigger in there instead, so that could be
1593
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.279
activated with a hand signal, it could be activated with
1594
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.239
a harmonic tone, it could be activated with a word.
1595
01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:13.920
And that kind of activation is something that is being
1596
01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:19.680
used to activate a lot of programmed sleepers or shooters,
1597
01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:23.279
you know, for when they're wanting to traumatize the nation
1598
01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:28.399
with another school shooting or whatever. Then they're activated, the
1599
01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:31.119
people are traumatized, they show it over and over and
1600
01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:36.319
over on TV, and the then the subconscious mind is manipulated.
1601
01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:38.399
And of course right now it's give up your guns,
1602
01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:38.920
give up your.
1603
01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:44.439
Why are interesting, No, you're right, it's definitely. One of
1604
01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:47.720
the aspects I want to talk about is assassins and
1605
01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:51.880
a lot of the staged events that we've seen in
1606
01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:55.039
the past decade to disarm us.
1607
01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.520
Just like you were saying, right, yes, it's been it's
1608
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:01.880
coming out us from a lot of different directions. And
1609
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:07.000
the gun ones like that are i think the most
1610
01:44:07.239 --> 01:44:12.560
obvious and the most prolific and the strongest used. And
1611
01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:18.520
yet there's also been a very slow erosion of a
1612
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.520
social engineering and the erosion of masculinity, and this gender
1613
01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:28.239
confusion is another aspect of that and apprition of transgendering
1614
01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:32.680
of effeminate men and men and women's sports and all like.
1615
01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:36.560
This is to try to make the men more compliant
1616
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:40.239
because men have that, you know, that manliness that's going
1617
01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:42.800
to stand up a little bit stronger. But they've been
1618
01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:51.119
conditioned through the modification of hormones in our foods. We
1619
01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:54.520
got to take back our foods from the pharmaceutical companies
1620
01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.079
and get them out of our lives. We don't need that.
1621
01:44:57.399 --> 01:45:00.399
We have amazing capabilities in our own bodies. Don't need
1622
01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:04.520
them meddling with our food en handsing it and creating
1623
01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:08.880
all these artificial foods to eat. And you know, we
1624
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:15.760
we need to know that men have been affected strongest
1625
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.840
because they need to get men to stand down and
1626
01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:22.279
then turn over their guns. So there's coming at them
1627
01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:25.760
from different ways. Of course, the so called feminist movement
1628
01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.960
and everything else, which is just you know, an excuse.
1629
01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:31.520
I mean, I don't I'm going to get in trouble
1630
01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:33.239
with a lot of people if I just keep going
1631
01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:34.119
in a certain year.
1632
01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.960
But this is all true. We need to hear it.
1633
01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:41.319
Well, it's it's it's being socially engineered from a lot
1634
01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:43.119
of shoes, and we need to be aware of that
1635
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:49.520
and start supporting the genetics that we're born with and
1636
01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:55.560
the masculinity. You know, it's not toxic, it's it's something
1637
01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:59.479
that that's just needed in society. We need this balance.
1638
01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.560
We need it, We need it around us in so
1639
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:04.840
many ways. But most of all, we need to hang
1640
01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:07.199
onto our guns. They want to take them away really bad.
1641
01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:10.079
And wherever people don't have guns is where the most
1642
01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.359
violence is. Look at the cities that have gun control laws.
1643
01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:17.479
That's where the violence in the US is. It's the Chicagos,
1644
01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.479
you know. We need to pay attention to that and
1645
01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:23.560
realize that they have no purpose in taking away our
1646
01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:27.039
guns other than to make us more helpless and submissive
1647
01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:30.600
to what they have planned for us. Because what they
1648
01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:34.319
have planned for us is horrific. We are just seeing
1649
01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:36.680
in the beginning of it. They are they have no
1650
01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:40.279
limits to the amount of trauma and pain that they
1651
01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:44.000
would inflict and generate, because again, that is their energy,
1652
01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:47.319
that is their vibration, is what they need in order
1653
01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:52.800
to succeed and keep us compliant. We need to stop complying.
1654
01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:55.079
We just need to stop applying.
1655
01:46:55.359 --> 01:46:59.000
Exactly now, if there's so many aspects I want want
1656
01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:02.359
to get to, but early talking about how you know,
1657
01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:07.279
even at very local and you know, personal close levels,
1658
01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:10.840
that this is occurring in every probably in every town,
1659
01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:14.319
in every state, in every city, that even your your
1660
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:20.960
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Yes, yes, they could either be compromised and blackmailed into it,
1677
01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:26.560
or they're put in through rigged elections. And that's something
1678
01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:29.279
that I think we all got a strong taste of
1679
01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:32.920
when mind control mass is a virus was unleashed on
1680
01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:37.680
the global population to create the trauma so that they
1681
01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:41.119
could move forward with their global reset, new World order,
1682
01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:43.800
slave society where a handful of big guys make all
1683
01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.880
the money, those of us who survive do all the work.
1684
01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:51.119
That's the plan, that's what they're moving towards. So when
1685
01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:54.800
that happened and they stole elections twenty twenty sublatantly and
1686
01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:59.800
then locked up anybody who said anything against it, you know,
1687
01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:04.039
and censored him and take him off their controlled media,
1688
01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:06.520
you know, I mean, it was just as ridiculous what's
1689
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:10.239
being done in that way. And yet my nineteen ninety
1690
01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:15.439
five testimony Transformation of America detailed who the plant, what
1691
01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.840
the plan was of who was going to be in
1692
01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:20.880
the office of president. It was be kept in the
1693
01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:24.600
Bush Clinton dynasties until Hillary Clinton ushered in the New
1694
01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:28.520
World Order twenty sixteen didn't happen that way, you know.
1695
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.279
So it's because people are waking up that we need
1696
01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.760
to pay attention to the fact that these electronic voting
1697
01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:39.520
machines which came in in the wake of the Kennedy assassination,
1698
01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:42.960
you know, and like I'm saying before, that's when this
1699
01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:48.119
global agenda took a stronghold on America, traumatized the nation.
1700
01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:52.439
They came into controlled media. You know, you look at
1701
01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:55.199
and Gerald Ford was heavily involved. That's why I have
1702
01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.760
such an up close personal thing on that. And the
1703
01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.119
electronic voting machine came in right after that. And I
1704
01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:05.239
haven't been around these perpetrators in Washington, be I can
1705
01:50:05.319 --> 01:50:10.840
guarantee you they did worried one bit about elections because
1706
01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:14.079
they are going to be placed placed in position through
1707
01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:16.600
these rigged elections because they were so willing to be
1708
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:21.720
a part of this agenda. So we need to pay
1709
01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:24.039
attention to that. We've got to clean up our elections.
1710
01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:27.479
We need to get back to paper ballots, monitor them.
1711
01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:32.159
Know that this isn't a conspiracy theory, you know, check
1712
01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:35.279
the machines, that the evidence is there. You know, We've
1713
01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:39.239
got all the evidence. We've got an eroded justice system
1714
01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.840
that has been compromised for a long long time. We've
1715
01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.800
got an FBI gestapo willing to lock up people who
1716
01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:50.319
are standing for their children or for their freedoms, you know,
1717
01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:55.000
And we need to just realize that we share this
1718
01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.840
planet with some very evil people with a very dark
1719
01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:03.760
and then it's inexcusable that we allow them to meddle
1720
01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:07.760
in our minds and lives anymore. All we need to
1721
01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:10.960
do is just know the truth that makes us free.
1722
01:51:11.600 --> 01:51:14.560
Knowledge is our defense against mind control. We need to
1723
01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:19.439
arm ourselves with knowledge above all and have that information
1724
01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:24.880
so that we can effectively start taking back our personal
1725
01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:30.079
and national sovereignty and restoring justice system and be able
1726
01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:33.439
to live the lives that we were meant to live
1727
01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:38.079
and step terror nonsense that we're being imposed on us
1728
01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:38.439
right now.
1729
01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:42.359
If people can't realize the evil being perpetrated, they have
1730
01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.279
their heads so far either in the sand or weigh
1731
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:48.039
up their asses, either one that you know, they're not
1732
01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:51.359
seeing the truth here. But I am very hopeful to
1733
01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:54.039
seeing the amount of people that do see and that
1734
01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:57.199
are awakening during this time. So that's where my hope
1735
01:51:57.279 --> 01:51:59.760
is coming from right now, if we can kind of
1736
01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:03.880
collective get past this. But tell us a little bit
1737
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:06.600
about what was the result of your test testimony for
1738
01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:11.640
the US Congressional permits permanent select committees on intelligence oversight.
1739
01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:17.279
Absolutely nothing national security evoked on my testimony, and the
1740
01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:20.000
whole thing was censored. The people in power at the
1741
01:52:20.079 --> 01:52:23.920
time were the very ones named in Trance. So at
1742
01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.479
that time Mark and I put it in book form
1743
01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:31.520
and released it to all members of Congress anyway, and
1744
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.359
the watchdog groups, you know, the ones that were supposed
1745
01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:39.720
to be watching out for our justice and everything else.
1746
01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.399
And we put it out that way, and that actually
1747
01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:46.600
helped keep us alive. We had people like US Customs,
1748
01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:49.239
the head of US Customs, William Vaughn Robb, you know,
1749
01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.239
oh my gosh, what a hero to the American people
1750
01:52:52.319 --> 01:52:57.720
he was that he had validated the information and also
1751
01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:00.840
helped get it out to the order guards and all
1752
01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.199
because it's border guards are seeing so much of the
1753
01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:05.399
human ethicking and drug ops and every time they make
1754
01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:09.640
a bus, national security is invoked on it. And so
1755
01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:14.119
the information just got out there well because national security
1756
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:17.680
was invoked on it in open court, in my daughter's hase,
1757
01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:21.960
then then I would be able to keep speaking out
1758
01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.880
on anything that was validated by the clean members of
1759
01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:29.479
law enforcement and intelligence community, secret Service or whatever. In
1760
01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:33.960
transformation of America and the perpetrators named could not sue
1761
01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:38.439
me because of National Security Act in the way. And
1762
01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:41.800
at the same time, here's the kicker. It was suppressed
1763
01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:46.920
completely for media from publicage and continues to be The
1764
01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:50.199
National Security Act is being used to cover some horrific
1765
01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:53.520
times against humanity. It's just a blanket of secrecy that
1766
01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:56.199
came in with Project paper Clip. And you know, we
1767
01:53:56.319 --> 01:53:59.960
need to be aware that that when Project paper Clip
1768
01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:02.760
came in with their agenda and the CIA was formed
1769
01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:06.439
to enhance it. When the CIA was formed, so too
1770
01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:11.359
was National Security. So that was it's made it very
1771
01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:14.239
very difficult. Mark and I spoke out on a global
1772
01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:17.359
scale trending us information to light. It was to help
1773
01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:22.720
my daughter in her situation. The FBI was testifying it's
1774
01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:27.199
my traffic daughter, and it was absolutely horrific what was
1775
01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:30.159
being done. So we did all we could to bring
1776
01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.479
information to light. And wherever we spoke, wherever in the
1777
01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:35.600
world we were, there was FEDS in the back of
1778
01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:38.520
the room making sure we didn't say one thing that
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wasn't in the testimony, that we didn't assert a perception
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that we didn't incite revolution, or we never did. We
1781
01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:53.239
were always proponents of evolution. You know that we need
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to evolve with the knowledge, and you know again knowledge
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01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.720
is our defense against mind control, and that's the evolution
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01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.600
step that's needed around the world right now. We don't
1785
01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.680
need a revolution. There's only a handful of them. There's
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01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:10.079
really not much to fight Nightguard. We need to evolve
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01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:13.479
to be able to thank fans stop complying with their
1788
01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:16.680
dark agendats absurd that we comply with that at all.
1789
01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:21.279
It is, it is very absurd. Well, speaking of the
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dark agendas, and let's talk about the desired end game
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for these scumbag psycho paths and what has been happening,
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you know, especially since twenty twenty. It's been happening our
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whole lives. It's been happening our whole existence. As long
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01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:38.960
as these guys have been in power, wherever it's hundreds
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01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:42.000
or thousands of years, we've always been subjected to their
1796
01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:46.039
mind control. But something special happened in twenty twenty to
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where it's like they're you know, ramping up this grand
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01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:53.680
plan to have total domination in control over the planet
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and along with other you know, if nefarious agenda's attached
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to it, which i'd like to get your take.
1801
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:05.800
Well, twenty sixteen is really what made the difference, because
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01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:09.119
so many people were awake and aware then that the
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01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:13.920
sheer numbers overrulled the algorithm of the rigged electronic voting machines.
1804
01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:18.520
Then sheer numbers actually just you know, cave that in
1805
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and put in a president that the people elected who
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01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:26.439
was going to represent we the people and stand strong
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01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:32.800
for our sovereignty. This when Trump went, it was in
1808
01:56:33.359 --> 01:56:38.159
my experience back in mid eighties that these perpetrators feared
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01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:43.319
him back then because I had to do. I was
1810
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:48.720
carrying out an operation in Atlantic City at the at
1811
01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:53.520
one of the casinos that Trump owned, and there was
1812
01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:55.680
a chance I might have run into and I was
1813
01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:58.600
told he's not one of us. And a fact that
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01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:01.319
I was told somebody's not one of us that was
1815
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do or die. If I had anything to do with
1816
01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:06.560
that person, I would be killed. So that's how important
1817
01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:09.000
that was. Then they were afraid of him. Then they
1818
01:57:09.039 --> 01:57:11.239
knew he was against human trafficking, they knew he was
1819
01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:16.600
against drug ops and their New World Order agenda. Back then.
1820
01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:20.119
You know, I didn't see Trump, didn't meet him, don't know,
1821
01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:23.279
you know, this is just all I know right there,
1822
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and I also knew that people wanted him in in
1823
01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:32.760
twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton was supposed to be put in place.
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That was how it was rigged, That's what was supposed
1825
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to happen. They couldn't believe it when you have that,
1826
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when you look at that and see what happened when
1827
01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:43.880
when Trump won, I mean, they freaked out, They totally
1828
01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:48.600
felt they just they triggered violence. They just went all in.
1829
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And ever since then, we've had a good expose while
1830
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Trump was in on the human trafficking operations, you know,
1831
01:57:58.159 --> 01:58:00.560
when he started building the wall and closing border to
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the human trafficking and exposing the pedophile agenda and all
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like that, that's amazing that was accomplished. That opened a
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lot of eyes, so that by the time twenty twenty
1835
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came around, you know, we we we definitely, I mean
1836
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we we did elect them again, but that didn't matter
1837
01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.960
because they stole blatantly stole the elections right right in
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front of us. I've had people say, how did the
1839
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how do US uh you know international question, how do
1840
01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:37.079
US votes go down instead of up? Okay, we were
1841
01:58:37.199 --> 01:58:39.880
watching that night and they were just going down on you,
1842
01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:43.279
and it was like, well, that's just that's because it
1843
01:58:43.399 --> 01:58:46.000
was rigged by the media and and everything else at
1844
01:58:46.039 --> 01:58:51.239
that time. So the elections were were blatantly stolen, and
1845
01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:54.439
they had four years to make up for They have
1846
01:58:54.520 --> 01:58:56.880
one hundred year plan. They were at the end of it.
1847
01:58:57.199 --> 01:58:59.640
Hillary was supposed to bring in this new world order
1848
01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.600
and it was supposed to go smooth. It didn't through
1849
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a monkey wrench. And and ever since, here we are.
1850
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You know, they're exposing themselves at every turn. We see
1851
01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:15.239
what they're doing. Their wizard curtain has been pulled back.
1852
01:59:15.399 --> 01:59:19.359
We see exactly who's behind there, what they're doing. Follow
1853
01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:22.119
the money, you know, follow the science. It will take
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you the same people.
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You know.
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Follow the money, and and look at the trauma that
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01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:32.760
is being used for mind control purposes, because mind control
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MK ultra mind control is their ultimate weapons system for
1859
01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:43.560
ushering in their slave society agenda. They're freaking out. See
1860
01:59:43.600 --> 01:59:48.399
what they're doing. They're just proceeding anyway. We catch them
1861
01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:50.760
and lie after lie after lie. They don't care. They
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just keep going. They don't It doesn't matter if they
1863
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have a handful that's still listening. They want to see
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how much they can divide us, and you know, keep
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people compliant through the traumas and then repeating the same
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narrative over and over and over. Repetition is a form
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of mind control, now is this? Uh?
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You know, we they have claims by our our three
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letter agencies that you know, all mk ultra projects were
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discontinued and we know that's bold. Uh how how involved
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with you know, not only mind control on the like
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we were just talking about, but still targeting individuals for
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things like uh, you know, the the honeypot like assassinations,
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like being a celebrity type of Menchurian candidate. You know,
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how prevalent do you think this is still in these
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modern times?
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Extremely provabent? You know, and look at Epstein Island, you
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know that is a great example there because the human
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trafficking ops that I was forced to work back in
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the in the eighties, which already lay aground work for
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all that out of sac Thomas and Haiti, the Clinton
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uh trafficking ops and drug ops were running through there,
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and it's a funding mechanism. So they've got a lot
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of a lot of people targeted on so many levels
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like that. And then you know, again mind controls the
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sliding scale to information control and there's a lot of
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people that don't have that one piece of the puzzle
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necessary for putting all the pieces together, you know, to
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pulling in the big picture to see exactly going on.
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It's hard for him to do when they're working, you know,
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two or three jobs just to get food on the
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table or put gas in their car. You know, it's
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it's really hard on people to do that. So then
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barding them with repetitive information keeps them more you know,
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more compliant, and that is a form of MK ultra
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mind control right there. So it's it's massive, it's extensive,
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but it's definitely definitely lost its grip. We're by far
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the majority people who are awake and aware and rising
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above this nonsense are by far the majority. But we
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need to get more people on board. We need to
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arm them with the ability to reclaim and maintain free
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thought because you know, it's anytime trauma occurs, we need
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to safeguard our think. You know, pick up a pen
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and right that was that was the primary main thing
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that Mark Phillips taught me that was kept from the population.
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It's just the importance of moving on. What that does
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is it shifts information or to logic part of the
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brain where it's critically analyzed, it's processed in a different
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way because it takes that part of the brain to
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move a pan not tight, it doesn't work the same way.
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It's the moving of a pen. And that's why they
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took it out of the school system too, because they
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don't want our kids critically analyzing information. They just want
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pump information in their head. They want to teach them
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what to think, not how to think. You know, and
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this is an important component of how to think that
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we all can use it, all should use every single day.
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I still do, you know, just vent out what the
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fear is, vent out what you're being bombarded with negatively,
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and then add a solution. When you add a solution
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and I spell su l. When you add a solution,
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then you're opening around pathways in your brain above and
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beyond the repetition programming or the trauma. It lifts you
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above that. It makes your brain fire and new directions.
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That empowers. Negativity is immobilizing, and we need to be
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able to respond to what's going on. The ability to
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respond responsibility, it's a beautiful thing, you know. It's a
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conscious awareness and picking up a pen gives us that
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and empowers us to be able to start making a difference.
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Protect our own children, get out in our community, secure election,
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and make sure we have a good sheriff that we
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can rely on on our sheriff as us line of
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defense against federal overreach. It's in our constitution. They're amazing
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the power they have, so make sure that we have
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a good sheriff. Make sure your sheriff knows his power.
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It's amazing. CSPOA dot org is really empowering a lot
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of sheriffs right now to stand up and make a difference.
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But it begins with picking up a pen. You know,
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something as simple as that. Write a letter to your sheriff,
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write a letter to your congressman or whatever. Write it
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on paper first, then type it so they read it.
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But you know, still do it on paper first because
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it's so important to be able to activate that part
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of our brains. Again, that is only one simple thing
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of the simple things that are in PTSD. Time to
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heal that everybody can apply to their own lives to
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be empowered going forward.
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Yeah, let's talk a little bit more that while we're
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discussing solutions for people, you know, like we recommended throughout this.
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You have to remove yourself from these situations, not participate
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in the trauma and mind control, and there's there's many
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different ways of doing that. What do you think the
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answers are on an individual level for people to kind
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of start breaking free. I know they've done such a
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wonderful job through the media, through social media, through movies
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in Hollywood, even destroying regular relationships, the family unit, relationships
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between men and women. I mean, there's ridiculous expectations between
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relationships between men and women a lot at the time
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due to the mind can program that they've received from
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Hollywood or the you know, any movies or even social
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media now and that's even being warped even more with
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the direction that they're taking it with the you know,
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the pedophilia, all the other things we were talking about. Yes,
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So what do you think are the bests for people
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like removing themselves from that, not being not watching TV
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here than media, not participating in their agendas, and probably
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just becoming as most self sufficient and whole as possible. Right,
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what other solutions can we offer?
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Yes, we're the nutrition and plenty of plenty of sleep
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because they want to keep us working, so how we
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don't get enough sleep. That sleep deprivation is a part
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of MK ultra mind control. Get out in nature, Breathe
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the air, reattached to the earth. Mother Nature nurtures, you know,
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it's a beautiful thing. And now we're told to fear nature,
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you know, like fear. Oh my gosh. You know, it's
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the environed mutal onslaught that we're under right now. Mother
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Nature is resilient, you know, just like the strength of
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the human spirit, and we need to just start taking
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care of it by caring. That's how you do. Get
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out in nature. Listen to the birds, Listen to nature
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intercommunicating with each other. Breathe in the air. You know,
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that's an important one right there, because when won't get
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sufficient oxygen to our brain, it inhibits critical analysis and
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free thought. That's why they're so hell bent unmasking the kids,
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you know, and get the mask on the kids, keep
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it on the kids in the schools. You know, that's
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that's got to stop when people understand what masks actually
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do and why they're used in MK ultru mind control.
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My own daughter was trafficked in a mask.
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You know.
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Look at Michael Jesson, he had he had turned thirty
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and you know, had some some things that were leaking.
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They wanted to silent him through that process and put
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a mask on it. And he wore a mask everywhere,
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so he felt like he didn't have a voice. And
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that's what it does. It muffles our voice, inhibits oxygen
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to the brain necessary for critical analysis, free thought, and
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depersonalizes the same way that all this gender confusion, non
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sense depersonalizes. They want to depersonalize to stop individuality, soul expression, strength,
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as you know, it goes right back to that same thing.
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So when we become aware of that, you know, go
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out breathe some mayor you know, inhale it deeply. Pat
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your dog, you know, that's another one. You know, just
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their pets are amazing. There unconditional love, you know, take
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them for a while. It just it's really it's really
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good to to enjoy pets as well. So, you know,
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those are just a few small things that we can
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do that really help us stay grounded and rejuvenated. It's
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something I live by. I do it every day. We
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have to take time for ourselves in order to have
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time to give others.
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Yeah, and you said you believe that more people are
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actually on the side of good, are actually waking up
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that are not participating anymore. That is extremely you know,
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most people won't be able to tell that, because, especially
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if you're just paying attention to what the media is
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telling you, they're going to stay outside. So you have
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to get out there and individually connect with people like
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you and I are doing like I do everything, and
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that is how you can see where most people are
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coming from. And I happen to believe too that most
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people are on the side of reasonable thinking and not
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mangenocide and mind control. So you know, I do have
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hope that we are going in the right direction as
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a collective.
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Yes, we are on a global scale. It's exciting because
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it's like knowledge is our defense against mind control, and
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I certainly gained that knowledge. So I saw it being
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imposed all around. I saw all the components of MK
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ultra being imposed. I see them now. You know, haven't
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been around those perpetrators. I know how they think, and
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it's shallow and it's wicked and it's mean. But they're
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so free out right now that that's evidence in itself,
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the fact that they know that people are waking up
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and so they're imposing more and more trauma. We need
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to make it through this curve and strengthen each other
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and shut off their media voice and shut off the
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TV and get away from that. That's a very important
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aspect of it. But I could see mind control because
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of my knowledge. I can see their reactions because of
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havn't been around them for all those years. And I
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also it was my experience to heal and to wake
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up from mind control. And when I first woke up
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from mind control, I felt so insane. And right now,
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you know, everybody is like, oh my gosh, this world
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is so crazy. It all looks so insane. It is,
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you know, all that part what they're doing insane. But
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we're gaining our sanity, our clarity, our free thought and
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moving forward. And so I'm seeing this huge, great awakening happening.
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And as people reclaim their free thought and their strength
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and spirit, know, they're getting out in their communities, they're
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talking with each other, they're they're making a difference or
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standing up for their values again, and they're not really
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as concerned with what these globalists think they're imposing on
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us as they are to just restructure their lives, grow
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their own food, you know, and get their own nutrition,
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make sure their kids are protected, and you know. So
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there's a huge movement that direction, and it's a beautiful
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thing to see. It's easy for me to smile all
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the time because I see this happening. I've been watching
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it progress through the nineties to the point where we
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are today, watching people wake up on a global scale,
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and it's an exciting time to be alive. You know,
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when we realized that we're just in this curve and
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real seeing for the first time people are seeing look
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so horrific. It's been going on my whole life. They're
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just finally seeing it. And awareness is the first step
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towards positive, necessary change. You know, it's not so bad
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seeing it. We just need to realize this has been
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going on a long time that and and uproot it
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all the way to its its roots to be able
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to stop this nonsense from affecting us and creeping in
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on our lives any further.
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Yeah. Now, as far as Trump goes, or any politician
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or person in that high of a position of power goes,
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I remain agnostic. I don't I still don't trust anyone,
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you know, you know, I don't trust Trump, But I
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do appreciate the information that you're bringing forward and your
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your thoughts about Trump. I think it adds and lets
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people make their own decisions about it. I'm going to
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remain agnostic at this point, but I do appreciate the information,
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and I want to know do you think there are
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indeed good guys at high levels that are working behind
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the scenes to correct this.
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Oh?
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Absolutely, there's good and bad in everything. But I also
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agree with what said because I'm not. We need to
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govern our own linds. We need to govern our own lives.
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We need to get back to the lower levels to
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be able to there's something pressures there. We've got to
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get big government went out of our lives. We need
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that anymore. We were shown a lot through Trump, and
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I certainly do not agree with everything about Trump. Why
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would I. He's a person. You know, that's not fair,
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that's just not a We shouldn't do that to anybody.
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And when with these politicians in that position and then
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let them live our lives, what are we doing? You know,
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that's just a ridiculous thing. Altogether. We need to govern
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our own minds, govern our own lives, pay attention to
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who is in office by secure elections from a local level,
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you know, on up. That's that's extremely important. I'm forever
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grateful that Trump opens so many eyes to human trafficking,
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to the pedophile agunda, to mind control. I'm grateful that
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he was able to stand up against the onslaught of
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these wicked, horrible perpetrators and not cave into mind control
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himself from the traumas that he and his family were
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subjected to. So I'm grateful for that, But I don't
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have to take it any further than that. Why, you know,
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he empowered us. You know, we are empowered, and if
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people don't feel Key empowered them, then they need to
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reclaim empower another direction, whatever it is. We are aware now,
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and awareness is towards positive, necessary change, and we need
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to stop ruin leaders that we didn't elect.
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Right, And you do believe that there are other people
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like Mark these out there that are kind of leading
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the charge against this.
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Yes, there are many people, good people in hot positions.
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They don't get voice anymore then, you know then than
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some of us, do you know? They they need to
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get on your show, you know, they need to have
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you amplify their voice to get it out there for
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them too, because they're being shut down anytime they try
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to take a stand too. But yeah, there's there's there's
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really good people well in touch and the ones who
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genuinely want to redore our national sovereignty, our constitutional values
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of freedom and justice for all. You know, that's that's
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what's that's what's beautiful, and that's our own personal responsibility
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to when we find out who we are on the
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base core energy of our being and gather that strength
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of human spirit and live the love we are. Love
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is the most powerful force, and you reverse, strength of
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the human spirit is infinite power for it. That is
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what these perpetrators fear most. That's because it's where we
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win where they lose. We need to claim our victory
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and then choose our path forward with wisdom and realize
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that politicians are just as vulnerable to mind control, technological
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and otherwise as any of us are. And that's something
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really important to be aware of and stop allowing for
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such big government influence on our lives. What are they
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doing in our school system anyway? You know what happened
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to pta parent teacher association where the parents went in
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and said, you can I teach my child you know,
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I mean, we need that back on everybody education system.
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Mind control is a whole other show we'd have to do,
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but yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, thank you so much, Kathy.
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This was fantastic. I love the funnel thoughts you put
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in there. How before you head out, how can people
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find your documentary, your books if they want to get
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in touch with you, social media, all that good stuff.
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All of it really is found on my website trance
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phenomenal expose. It's not it says it's a Kathy O'Brien's story,
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but it's about mind control, human slavery, and healing, healing
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the nation, really the world. It it empowers with a
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more you know, the more you see that it's inexcusable
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we have these perpetrators to influence our brilliant minds anymore,
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Wonderful. Well, thank you so much, thank you for coming
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out with this information, thank you for your strength, and
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thank you so much for coming on today. This was
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fantastic and I would definitely love to speak with you
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again in the future.
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I hope so I look forward to it. Thank you
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so much. I appreciate what you're doing.
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Thank you, Kathy. All Right, till next time, everyone, have
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