Is EJ Johnson the Baddest B? Is Luenell Dating Al B Sure? It's Pop Culture-o-Rama with Jasmyne Cannick

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The La Talk fifteen eighty My birthday twin. I'll be
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sure is he really datingly? Now? They sure are doing
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a lot of PDA, a lot of public displays of affection,
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hanging out, sexy hangouts. Is this relationship a thing? What
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do you think? Jasminchanick has some opinions on that. She'll
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be here any minute. We are going to talk pop
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culture politics. What we get out of it is E. J. Johnson,
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the fashionable socialite, son, daughter offspring child of Magic Johnson,
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the baddest bee in the room. She's got some thoughts
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on that as well, and you may too, and you're
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invited in eight hundred and nine to fifteen eighty. Eight
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hundred nine to fifteen eighty. These topics bring up a
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lot of topics that have to do with how we
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process things and how what is going on in the world.
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By the way, tomorrow will be the Angel Versary of Easy,
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my friend Eric Wright rest in peace, and I'll be
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joined by Crazy Bone of Bone Thugs in harmony. So
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really looking forward to that conversation. It's it must be
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the retro shade, must be doing retro shade things, because
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I haven't talked with interviewed Faith Evans in maybe twenty years.
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She was on yesterday and she if you missed it,
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it was a great conversation. You can find it on YouTube,
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you can find it wherever you get your podcasts. I
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think it's been even longer than that since I've interviewed
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Crazy Bone or any of the guys from Bone Thugs
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and Harmony, and I get to talk with him tomorrow.
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Of course, Easy passed away in nineteen ninety five. I
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can't believe it's been that long March twenty sixth, nineteen
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ninety five. But as unlikely as it seems, that man
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was my friend and he was a big help to
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me in making the adjustment when I moved here to
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La which is not an easy thing. Okay, at that punt,
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I didn't mean, but you know, he put on Bone
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Thugs and it's going to be really great to talk
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with him on that Angel versary. Also joining me tomorrow
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the award winning journalist who was arrested at the behest
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of Pam Bondi in the Department of Justice. She's fighting
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that case, but she is a powerful independent journalist and
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an outspoken black woman who's just really modeling excellence in
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the art of Journalism. She will be with me in
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studio tomorrow. Georgia Fort will join me, so you don't
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want to miss that. And of course then Friday we
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will be broadcasting from Doolan's Soul Food Restaurant on Crenshaw
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And as promise, I will let you know some of
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the folks who will be joining us. Stephanie Wiggins, who
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is the CEO of La Metro, Doctor Gloria Morrow, who
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is a member of our church community, the mental health
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expert who deals with community as well as pastors. Of course,
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my girl, I'm the head of BLM Grassroots. Doctor Molina
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Abdullah will be joined by a member of the LA
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Reparations Well she's not a member, she was a scholar
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who worked with the LA Reparations Commission. Doctor Marquita Gammage
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heavenly hughes the activists out of Altadina who is helping
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us to update on what's happening there. Erica Smith, Award
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winning journal with Bloomberg formerly with the La Times. Supervisor
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Holly Mitchell will be with us as well as will
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be joined by Mornique Juela Evans who is a director, producer,
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and she'll be able to give us some good insights
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on what is happening in Hollywood. Judge Songhai Armstead, who
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is the uh She's a retired Superior Court judge also
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over the Justice, Care and Opportunities Department of La County,
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and some other surprise guests. That's what we have going down.
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It's going to be a powerful and substantive conversation tomorrow
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at Dulan's from six to nine. I will see you
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there Dulan's on Crenshaw. My my, my, my, Look who
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is joining me now? Is about to get lively up
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in here. She's a strategist and award winning gen X
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journalist and on air contributors. She's also a delegate for
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the La County Democratic Party. And she is a fashionista too, Jasminchanic,
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can I call you a fashion influencer? She's also well,
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we won't go into your alter ego today.
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I can always talk about her.
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Yeah, okay. She's the creator of Tiwanda. She's one of
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the people that's using AI for good. Let me put
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it that way, thank you. I like to think I'm
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using AI for good. So, first greetings, Good morning Dominique,
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Good morning Miles, Good morning everyone out there in radio land.
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Can you tell I've had my coffee. Yeah, the coffee
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is on. The makeup is poppin'. She's all the way here,
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so I was. I started us off with Little Alb
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Little Night and Day.
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Oh nice. I love that song.
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Yeah yeah, that's a classic right there. Yeah yeah. And
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you know it's funny that a romance, I mean a
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romance can cause so much controversy. Lunel, the uh incredibly prolific,
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popular and you know, hilarious comedian, an actress and actress
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who's my my barrier homegirl, Uh is dating I'll be sure, apparently,
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but a lot of people are not believing it. They're
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they're they're questioning it. And is that what they're doing?
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Is it that they're questioning whether the legitimacy of the
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relationship or or are they questioning the her Lunelle and
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I'll be sure being together, because I've seen a lot
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of comments, in particular, how did she get him?
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How did she pull him? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, well yeah,
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so how do you see that that being different? Because
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they're not saying that the legiti that it's not a
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legitimate relationship, you're saying they're just saying that she shouldn't
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have been able to land him.
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Basically that that's a lot of what I'm seeing, and
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it's really insulting. It should be more like how did
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he land her? But you know, let's let's you know,
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but it's rooted. It's rooted in this idea of you know,
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these outdated beauty standards that never had us in mind
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to begin with. That we you know that we still
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sort of use one against each other and you know,
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as if to say she's not worthy of love, or
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she somehow isn't worthy of a person like I'll be sure.
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But you know, the other part of it is it's
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also rooted in a generational delusion. So a lot of
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these younger folks who are still focused on money and
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looks don't realize when you get Lunell's age and i'll
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be Sure's age, and you know, a lot of us
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gen xers and older, that we would take someone who
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is our friend, who we can talk to and we
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can travel with, who we can have a good time
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with him in the same room with us, and that
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we can trust overlooks any day of the week, right,
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is a beautiful No, we're not saying she's not, but
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let's just say our priority shift when we get older.
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And I think what really spawned this conversation over the
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weekend was her appearing. I forget where she was at,
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where she was on stage when that young lady asked
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her that question.
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I think she was in Vegas. She's got a residency
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in Vegas.
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And that was just, it was just, But I love
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the way she handled it. I think we have the clip. Yeah,
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let's let's roll that.
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You got it mouthramatic.
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Health issue.
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And and you know, at the end of the day,
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when you get grown, little.
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Girl, you realize that's not all about you.
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Belly rings and m here things and quirking has been
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in the UK.
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You okay, tell verbel fall off.
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I pray to the Lord that you find somebody who
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feels the same way about.
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You as you feel about me.
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I pray to the Lord that I find somebody that
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feels way about me that he feels about her exactly. Well.
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Look, at the end of the day, no, no, At
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a certain age, finest optional compatibility is not. And you know,
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the younger mindset is on. You know, he looks good
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or she looks good, and the grown mindset says, how
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does he or she act when life gets ugly, like
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our priority ship. And so what I'm seeing a lot
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in the conversation on the internet, because you know, the
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internet can be brutal. It is not for the faint
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of heart, is younger folks judging this relationship sort of
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based on what they think or who I guess, who
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they think I'll be sure should be with. And again,
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you know, I just hate that I'm not going to
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be around with some of these people get older, so
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I can go back and say, aha, now you understand.
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But here's the thing I mean, in fairness, I'll be
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sure his image is sex symbol. He was, you know,
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the light skinned R and B singer that made the
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girl swoon. I mean, that's his image, and he's maintained
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that image, you know, even though he's fifty seven now,
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Lunelle is a little older than he is.
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What you're saying, Dominique.
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Well, she has a different image. She's the bad girl
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of comedy's she's not so beautiful. She is beautiful, she's
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gorgeous and she's my friend, so and how but yeah,
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got so bad to say about Lunelle. But in fairness
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to the people with the belly rings, you know, really
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Alb's Albie's image is super sex symbol. So if you're
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dating a super sex symbol, if you are, or I am,
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or Miles is, it is kind of normal to ask
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how you pull.
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Them or I think it's disrespectful. First of all, let
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me let me I should have started with this. I
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personally wouldn't be discussing my love life and relationship on
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social media. Now that's just me. I'm not Lunelle, and
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I'm not I'll be sure, but I know plenty of
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celebrities who do not talk about their personal life in
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the public right, and that would be the stance that
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I take from the get go because I'm just not
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gonna do that. The second thing is because of me, right,
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just because I know how I am. I actually dated
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a rapper.
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Oh when I was.
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Younger, and I had so much insecurity because everywhere we
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went women were throwing panties and slide numbers.
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That's so crazy, because I mean, I've known you forever
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and I'm just now finding out.
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Because I want talk about my business and I don't
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suppose you'll tell us who I'll tell you off the air, Okay, okay,
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is it a boy or girl rapper, I'll tell you
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off the air. And and so my insecurity just wouldn't
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wouldn't allow me to do that, I don't think, just
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because I also just don't want to have to deal
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with that every day, right, So that's just me.
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But you know, people saying, hey, how you pull that person?
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I don't know if people would have said all that,
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but I do know that the person to this day
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still has people throwing panties at them. Yeah, I feel
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bad for their jobarder.
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Yeah, it's kind of you know, somewhere down in the
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job description must be catching panties. But yeah, and the
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and the other thing. Okay, you're gonna get me in trouble,
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do that? Just that look you just gave me, like
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I mean, I'm I also think and we'll talk about
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this when we come forward, because I'm already behind schedule,
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of course. But I mean, the thing is, Lunel also
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has a history of playing with us a little bit
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when it comes to relationships that are made public. So
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you know there's that eight hundred nine two oh fifteen
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eighty If you want to win, CAV thinks you dated Tone.
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Look listen, no, it wasn't Tone. Loads that a story
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about Tono.
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Okay, but it was we gotta do a podcast where
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we can cuss. H. You're listening to KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.
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Excuse me, I almost cussed on the mic. Oh hot moment.
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That's what we need. We're talking pop culture right now.
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Jasmin Caanic is here, Award winning jen X's journalist, creator
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of Twanda. You can find her at Hello Jasmine on
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Instagram and I am Jasmine.
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I am jazz dot dot com, and you can find
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Twanda at I Am Twanda. She got an exclusive interview
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with TSA agents and ICE offic site at LAX, so
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she's she's going to be reporting on somebody gave her
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a petty tip that there was like fighting between the
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two groups at the airport, so she went to investigate that.
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Yeah, okay, that's better than Chad Biancle's investigations. I'll take it.
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But look, we were talking about Lunelle and Alb and
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remember Lunell used to have this thing, pretend romance with
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what's his name, Bruno Mars. She would go to his
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shows and hung up on him and kind of act
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like he was her boyfriend, and it was it's kind
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of not real and so you can't really blame people
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for not believing your dating al be sure after you
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did a whole fake relationship with it.
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But again, that's one thing, like not believing that it's
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a legit relationship. That it's one thing because a lot.
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Of stuff to promote their albums, their shows.
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The absolutely, I am never surprised by what people will
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do for the ground and if you likes and a
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few shares, I'm never surprised. But that's to me, that's
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that's one thing, and it's another thing to just question
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the you know, the whole idea that based on looks,
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like why are these two together? Like that's the thing
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that drives me crazy. But I also see a lot
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of that rooted in generational delulu, because again, like I
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said earlier, when you get older, your priority shift. Like
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when we're younger, we might have all been into looks
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and stuff, but let me tell you, at my age
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two day, I will definitely take someone whose company I
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can stand, who might be not the most pleasingly esthetic,
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over someone who was super fine and I had me
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crying in a parking lot at two am. You understand
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what I'm s.
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I mean, I think with Lunelle. Also, there's you know,
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agism coming into play because a lot of am she's
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older than him, and you know, a man being older
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than a woman is fine, but the other way around
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seems to be a problem. Although what I've noticed as
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a chronologically gifted woman is that there seems to be
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a trend going around with younger men wanting to be
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with older women.
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So I don't have no kids, and I'm gonna keep
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it that way. I choose to be the youngest person
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in my relationships.
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I mean, look, I'm not a cougar. Okay, So what
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I'm hearing is that Lunelle didn't date Brunomars. She had
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a public crush on it. But I'm just saying it
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seems like, you know, it seemed like she was playing
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with them, so people, that's why people kind of I don't.
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Know why people care to begin with, but this age
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is that the ageism stuff has got to stop, and
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I need more of my gen X people to enter
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the chat dat chat. Oh you never know, never know,
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you'll never know.
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DJ Quick, it's a part of my past.
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You will never know. You will go with me into
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my grave.
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Uh yeah, And they said pressure John says, what is
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what constitutes not the most aesthetically pleasing. That's the other
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piece in the beauty of the beholder. But also I think,
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you know, there's a beauty standard. We still have that skinny,
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pale beauty standard.
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Yeah, we white people's beauty standard. We we we fall
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into all of that. And what I think bothers me
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the most is seeing black women up in that conversation
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and saying some of the things that they're saying. And
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I'm just like, we just get a little bit, get
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some more years on you, sis, get some more years
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on you, sis. I bet you you'll be happy just
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to have someone you could travel with and not end
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up in jail.
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And they might be jealous. I mean, I mean it
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still looks kind of good, you know. I mean, I guess,
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and so does Lunelle if you know, yeah, I mean
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they might they might be haying.
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Normally, I don't care about celebrity relationships. The only reason
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I dipped my pinky toe into this conversation was because
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of the AGM sorry, the agism that I was seeing
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and just sort of wanting to represent for gen x's
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and just remind folks like you, millennials and gen zers,
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get a couple more years on you and you still single,
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and I bet you your priority shift. I bet you
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you know, cause the other thing I talked about in
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the piece that I wrote about this was it all
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goes together. Do you remember when they went up to
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like Sheryl Lee Ralph for the shape of her feet
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when she had on like her open toe. She was
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a huge thing on the internet, like.
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And I'm just like you, like before you were born,
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you pick your feet out of a catalog, right, So
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that's how superficial society is.
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And I'm just like, but when you get a little
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bit older, you will want to be around someone who
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you can walk around barefoot, who you can walk around
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bare face, who you can walk around with in a
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bondy on and they not look at you any different.
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Like that's the prize and that's the goal. All this
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other stuff folks talk about on the internet, judging folks
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about their weight and they're this and they're that, and
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none of that matters at a certain point in life.
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At a certain point, you just want a friend.
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Okay, if you say so, I guess I haven't grown
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up yet anyway, News trafficking sports and I want to talk.
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We're gonna talk a little about EJ. Who's the baddest
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fifteen eighty welcome back. Indeed, Okay, cue the bad be
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song right here. So, Jasmine, we were talking off the
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air about e J. Johnson.
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Yes, so full disclaimer before I get into this conversation.
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It's not gonna you know, I am going to stick
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to EJ's name and they then because I am not
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sure of the pronounced situation and I don't want to
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be accused of mis gendering anyone, so I'm going to
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do my best to do that. But yes, EJ has
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caused quite a controversy online and it is not It
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keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger every day. And
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I dipped a pinky toe into it because you know,
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I am very opinionated, as people know. So you know,
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when you you make outlandish statements and you cause the
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entire internet to basically break, I thought it was my duty,
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again as a gen xer, to step in and say, hey, hey, hey, everybody,
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let me break this down for you. I I think
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we have the clip of what EJ send for folks
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who I guess would be living under a rock. EJ.
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Johnson is the child of of NBA great Magic Johnson.
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EJ is thirty three years old, a millennial, a millennial
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social and a social light TV personality. I think the
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rich kids of Beverly Hills kind of put EJ on
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the on the on the map, so to speak. But
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EJ has come a long ways from from twenty fourteen.
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Uh And so let's let's hear. Let's hear from e J.
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Let's hear, especially if I cuter than any girl does,
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Like what's the problem?
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Like, what's the issue?
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And that's exactly how I applied it to myself to
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these days, in the way that I present, like in
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my you know, in my feminine regalia. You know, I've
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always been a feminine being, and like that's just like
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how I, you know, I best expressed myself. But I'm like, listen,
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I'm out all the time, you know, and I'm killing
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a dress and no one else is, Like the girls
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in the room are not doing it, Like they don't
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look cute, they're not dressed tenny nine.
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So yeah, I love it.
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So here's something I did not know, which is crazy.
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Eja is also born on my birthday.
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Just like Alvi sho Oh June.
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The geminis running. They mouths, Oh my goodness. So a
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lot of people were angry about this.
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A lot of people are angry. And for the record,
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before we even get into this conversation, this is not
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anti gay, this is not anti trance, this is anti Delulu.
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So my point of view in having this conversation, it's
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not so much about EJ as much as it is
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about that generation that feels like they have to be
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the narrator of their own greatness. They have no humility,
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they have no grasp on reality in a way that
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shows it, you know when you think about you know,
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all the songs that come out in terms of like,
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you know, female rappers and does somebody set the male
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rappers too? You're the baddest, You're the prettiest. Every man
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wants you, everyonoe's obsessed with you. You're giving life, life
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changing sex. And I'm just like, where is the humility?
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Where is you have the best private parts?
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Apparently so, and I'm just like, statistically, someone is lying
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because that is not possible for you all to always
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be the best and the greatest. And so, while yes,
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a lot of people were upset about what they heard,
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just in terms of like, there were a lot of
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comments about just you know, being you know, the whole.
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I'm the best dressed, you know girl in the room.
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I was more looking at it as for me. You know,
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I am so sick of hearing this younger generation talk
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about how great they are.
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But I mean to be fair. Does that make us
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sound like just grouchy elders, No.
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It doesn't. It makes us sound like people who were
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raised by people who taught us how to be humble
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as well as use common sys. Look, I think I
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look good. Okay, you do, but I also think mirrors work.
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Both things can be true at the same time. Dominique, Right,
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I don't walk into every single room thinking I'm that girl,
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you know, And if I do, I don't feel the
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need to announce it unprovoked to everyone every day, all
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the time. And that's what I see a lot of.
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And I'm just like, what is how did this happen?
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How did how did a generation of people become so
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wrapped up in the selves?
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Well? I don't know the answer to that, but I
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feel like it is it's it is in style. It's
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in style. Everybody's got to be the baddest bee. But
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can we all be the baddest be is your question?
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Statistically no, yeah, right, statistically no, the math and math
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and the math is not. But you know the other
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thing is I mean, you talk about a generational situation.
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I think the provocation is a generational marketing tool or
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habit or whatever. Miles and I were talking about this
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off the air. It's like having a baby is now
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a marketing tool. Carni b drops her album, She's got
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to be pregnant, Lotto drops her album, She's got to
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be pregnant. It's it's like it's it's almost like these
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these things become because I don't know's it. Does EJ
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really think that EJ looks better than I think? Does
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EJ trying to promote something now we're talking about it.
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I think is doing both. But I do think that
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EJ thinks EJ looks is the best looking girl in
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the room. I do believe that. I think that. You know,
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when I said before the break, I'm never surprised at
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what people will do for the graun So yeah, I'm
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not surprised at you know, yeah, you know, you gotta
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drop your album and be pregnant at the same time.
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I mean, people are doing all kinds of crazy stuff
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and it's being consumed, so clearly it's it's working, you know.
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I mean, I guess on the people it's intended to
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work on it, I'm immune to that.
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But well I'm okay, And why do you always get
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me in trouble? What I mean, I do think that
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the backlash, some of the backlash that EJ is getting
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is probably you know, anti lgbto.
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Absolutely anti anti lgbtwo.
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One of the reasons I don't like it is because
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I feel like, especially for some reason with us with
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black women, there there there's a tendency towards feeling threatened
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by trans women, which okay, see we weren't supposed to be.
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See now you're trying to get me in trouble.
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No, I okay, I'm just saying that why would e
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J set up that that conflict between him? I don't
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mean that, I mean her.
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They coming to get you, Well, they can.
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Come and get me. All they have to do is
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tell me which pronouns because one of my one of
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my here's my auntie attitude. Be consistent. If you want
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to be they them, I'm good with that. I have
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no problem and say I'm good with that. I want
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to call people what they want to be called. But
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you got to be consistent. If you're not going to be.
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Consistent, give us grace and don't be mad, don't don't get,
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and don't cut, don't try to cancel, he.
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Don't, don't don't crush.
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I don't think EJ cares enough about what you're talking
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about in terms of the dynamic. I think EJ is
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wrapped up in EJ. But it has obviously introduced again
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this conversation between you know, in our community, between us,
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and it is pitting us. I've read the comments, I've
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I've watched the videos I've seen, but what did EJ expect?
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And I think that you know, the marketing team behind
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EJ wanted this right because it means posts like shares
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talking about it, you know on air.
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Yeah, that's why I was wondering if it's a marketing thing, we.
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Know that J does not is not always the best
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looking girl in the room. Okay, let's be clear.
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I mean you're in a room with zin Deya.
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I mean I don't know where rooms EJ.
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Is in, for example.
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I don't know that EJ is going to be but EJ.
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Probably that they are.
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I mean, you know there's a lot, Yeah, there's a
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lot of girls serving absolutely are. I just don't like.
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I don't like us being petted and pitted against each
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other because I don't.
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But it's not on. It's not on.
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It's not on.
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And I don't even again because I don't keep up
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with these terms. I don't know, but I'm just gonna
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it's not on me. That person said it, it's not on.
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You know what I'm saying, Like e J knew what
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EJ was saying when EJ said it.
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Yeah, well, you know, June fourth, you gotta watch those ones.
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Then you got to watch the Albi shoors, the dominic Japrimus,
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the e J. Johnson, the el debarges. But yeah, I don't,
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Quamel says, regardless of prominent pronoun, I get femboy vibes
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from e J. Prester John says e J SE's cookie
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in the mirror shallow howl, and Jacqueline wants to know
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which mirror EJ is looking in. W B says, uh,
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EJ has delusions of grandeur.
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I got a comment in the chat too, it says.
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Back in the day, EJ was not the best looking
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guy in the room.
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But what does that have anything to do. I don't know,
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but that's what I got because I mean, it's so subjective.
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I just need humility.
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I just need, you know, false humility.
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I just need people to stop walking around here thinking
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that they are God's gift to the world and announcing
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it unprovoked everywhere they go all day on social media.
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I am just so over it, and I just that's
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one of the things I love about being gen X
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is that we weren't raised that way. Sure, we were
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raised to be confident people. I mean, we practically raised ourselves,
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but we were also raised with humility, and we were
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also raised with an understanding, Like I said that you
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may be that girl, but not that girl in every
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room all the time. And we knew when we looked good.
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We knew when we were eight, and we knew when
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we needed to mind our business.
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And here's the other thing. If I'm that girl, you'll
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need to announce it. What yeah, number one? Number two?
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Why does that pit me against somebody else? Why do
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I have to.
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That's because you're saying not you. I'm just going in
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the situation because you're saying it unprovoked to people. That's
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the thing I'm like. First of all, it reminds me
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of Trump, to be real, honest with you, because this
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is Trump like behavior. But it's like, if you are
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that girl, you let other people tell you that you're
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that girl, you have other people complimenting you. You don't
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give yourself the compliment. That is so Trump.
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And the other thing that I don't like this is
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the the Real Housewives part of it, you know, the
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wig snatching part of it. I can be that girl
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and you you can be fire too. I don't have
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a problem.
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There's not one that girl Hell not.
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My bear is coming out hell and my girlfriends are
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serving are beautiful and I'm not threatened by it at all.
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I love to be my friends glow up. I love
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when my friends are doing big things and moving forward
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in life. It doesn't make me feel like I have
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to take to the Internet and remind people of who
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I am. And it's rooted and insecure's about.
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To say that, and also misogyny to me, it's truted
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in misogyny and sexism because now regardless of whether you're
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you know, cisgender trans or whatever, or a femboy or
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something that I haven't become aware of yet. The fact
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of pitting one one woman against another for the male
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gaze or for anybody's gaze is a sexist paradigm. It's
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a patriarchal paradigm. Can be we can be serving together, absolutely,
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And I'm also really tired of this idea that we
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can't have a conversation about it without being labeled anti trans.
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That is also very tired. And when folks in the
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community wonder why they don't have more allies or why
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other folks in the community aren't speaking up, is because
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people are tired. They have questions, They have legitimate questions,
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they have legitimate they want to have a legitimate conversation
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with you about it, but they they get labeled anti
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trans and the next thing you know, folks are trying
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to counsel them and do all these things, and you know,
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we got to move beyond that. I mean, we have
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a thriving black trans community here in Los Angeles with
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some very powerful movers and shakers, one of my favorite
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being Ebony Lane, who many people know being at the
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Slawson Slowso Swap Meet, but before that, for years was
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in the Balwhen Hills Crenshaw Plaza doing eyebrows. Whose eyebrows
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was she doing? She was doing our eyebrows and we
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loved her. And she's still, you know, doing makeup and
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doing But I'm just saying, we've had black trans folks
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in our community for years that we've existed with, that
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we've worked with, that we've loved, that we've grown with.
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So let's not act like this is brand new to us.
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We as a community can have a conversation about this,
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but this is pitting us up against one another.
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Prester John says, if EJ was gen X, his grandmother
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would have rubbed him down with which has rubbed her down,
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rubbed them down with witch hazel and slapped EJ. Well,
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but the bottom line of what you're saying, it's true too.
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We can critique people without being anti their whole existence
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with anti right because identity or anti whatever group from
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whence they represent.
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Exactly so, because if I follow their logic right, their
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meaning that you're anti trans blah blah blah people, then
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you're anti woman. Right, we should be able to have
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a conversation about these issues. And until we are able
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to have conversations without you know, folks, feeling under attack.
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It's we're not. It's just going to be fodder over
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the internet, and we got we really have to move
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beyond that, because honestly, the black community is too small
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to be split up on these issues. We need to
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be arm in arm.
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You're anti bad Bee eight hundred nine anti d Lulu
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not too late to get in eight hundred nine two
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oh fifteen eightys KBLA talk fifteen eighty.
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It does.
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And I'm so glad that you are here with us.
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We just got a few minutes left. I want to
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remind you ten am. The second hour of the Tavis
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Smiley Show, which follows this show, he will have all
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four of the BIPOP candidates that were to be left
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out of that usc gubinatorial debate, and it is going
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to be fire. I cannot wait to hear that. Uh.
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If we were on that topic, I'd ask you, Jazz,
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because you always have a You're a delegate, and you
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got it.
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You got opinions besides being a delegate, because forget that hat.
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I am a voter and I live in California, so
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I have an opinion about that.
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But you know, so me and you maybe we can
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unpack it I know you're coming back, uh soon, so
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maybe we can unpack that when you come. Sure for sure.
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So I'm so the bottom line here. We know we
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talked about just to pop culture.
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We talked about grown folks dating.
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Grown folks dating, and we manifested by Albi Sure and
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Linell right, and we.
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Talked about generational delusion.
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Generational delusion as manifested by e J. Johnson, Well socialite.
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EJ is just one person and so many. I mean,
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like I said, when you listen to all the songs Lotto,
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I'm the best, I'm the badest. Your man won Megan.
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I mean, and I like Macon, I like Lotto, but
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they they are bragging on their.
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It's camel dog exhaust. I mean, you got to be
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exhausted from if you're that bad and your sex is
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that good, it sounds like a full time job.
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I mean for me, it's also now you've got to
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live up to that all the time. You can't go
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out in your sweatpants like I like to do sometimes,
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you know, with no makeup.
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I would not like life. If I couldn't walk out
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my house looking the way I look without being taking pictures,
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I would be miserable.
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Yeah, I mean, and also, you know, I think it's
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it's it sets that this pressure. It's the same thing
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with the thing we were talking about with now to
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fit into some kind of filtered, airbrushed, retouched, aied version
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of yourself on video. Uh, it's like the Chris Jenner,
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you know, with her with her facelift. First she had
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the super facelift and then on top of that the
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airbrush it and now you walk out the house and
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it's like, oh, really okay.
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With her, at least she has the money to continue
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to do it, I guess for the rest of her life.
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But most people don't have that kind of money and
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gravity catches up with this.
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I mean. And that's the same with EJ. You know,
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that may be part of the out of touchness being
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wildly wealthy. We'll do that to a person. Jasmine. Remind
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us how to keep up with your writings. She's written
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a whole column on the lunel situation. You might want
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to read it.
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To Lui Iamjasmine dot com. And I'm on all the
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socials at either Jasmine or at Hello Jasmine.
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Yeah, thank you. It's always fun stirring the pot with you,
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making people mad or happy. It's always great, and don't
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forget that Friday when we will be at Dulan's. Dulan's
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on Crenshaw broadcasting from six am to nine am. We
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got fifteen eighty breakfast and some powerful black women. The
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state of Black women in LA is what we are doing.
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You are all invited. Of course. Tavis has the gubernatorial
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folks at ten and tomorrow I will be talking with Crazybone.
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It's the angel versary of the death of Easy and
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me and Cray met through Easy. Easy actually introduced us,
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so it'll be wonderful to have a career conversation with him,
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but also reflect on our friend Easy. We also have
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Georgia Fort, who's a powerful black woman, award winning journalist,
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independent journalist. She's the one that was arrested with Don Lemon.
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She'll tell her stories. She'll join us in the studio,
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so you don't want to miss that. Tavis Smiley's next,
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He's got a fully locked and loaded show. It's gonna
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be a great one for you. Like my dad, the
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late Greater Mary Baraka, used to say, a person is
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either free or they are not free. There can be
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no apprenticeship for freedom. I'll see you on social media,
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I'm at the Premia Radio. We are at KBLA fifteen
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eighty until tomorrow. One Love