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Hey, Street Walkers. This is a throwback episode with seven
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time Emmy Award winning actor Ed Asner. Ed appeared on
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the show twice, but his first appearance on the show
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was July twenty fifth, twenty eighteen, and it was such
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a compelling and fun episode I decided that it needed
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to be revisited. So enjoy this throwback episode. Tell a
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friend and thanks for listening.
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I believe that everybody has a story and I'm fascinated
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to hear them, So come with me as we take
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a walk down Fascination Street.
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Welcome back, guys. This episode is my chat with Hollywood
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legend Ed Asner. Depending on your age, you know Ed
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Asner from the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Lou Grant, even
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the Pixar movie Up. In this episode, we talk about
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Mary Tyler Moore Show, Lou Grant, and Up, of course,
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but we also talk about his new book, The Groucy Historian,
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an old time lefty defends our constitution against right wing
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hypocrites and nutjobs. We talk about his touring one Man show,
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A Man and his Prostate, and he even tells us
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a really cool story about him. Gavin McLeod and Ted
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Knight enjoy guys, this is Ed Asner. And then Hi,
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mister Asner.
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Good.
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Hi, this is Steve Owens with Fascination Street Podcast. How
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you doing? I am doing well? Well, mister Asner. First,
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I just want to thank you so much for taking
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this time. I'm I'm a huge fan, have been for
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my entire life, so this means a lot to me.
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Thank you very much, sir, Thank you, Thank you. Now,
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first of all, can I call you Ed?
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Oh? Absolutely?
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Or would you prefer I call you yit Zach? Well,
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since I'm not Hebrew, I won't call you that. How's that? Well,
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mister Asner? You have been Oh see I already messed up?
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See how I am?
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You are? You mess up?
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Well?
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Ed?
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Everybody knows who you are. Mostly it depends on the generation,
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but either from Mary Tyler Moore Show or Lou Grant
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even roots, the younger generations know you as the the
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gratsy old man from that Pixar movie. Up. What do
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you get the most recognition from?
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Well, some think what I've received more?
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Really Well, that's all.
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That's a number of man, Yeah it was.
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I wanted to talk to you about that. So Mary
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Tyler Moore was a half hour sit Tom based on
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a television news room, and then your character spun off
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to your own show, which was converted to a one
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hour comedy in a newspaper office. How does that work?
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Comedy?
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I'm sorry, I'm in a one hour drama, So how
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did that work out?
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Worked on?
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What made everybody decide to spend lou grantoff into a
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one hour drama?
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Nothing like that? Had it really existed before? The market
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team good for it. They didn't seem to think that
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they could continue creating comedy with network TV. So the
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two producers had been identified with newspapers before. They found
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it an intriguing hole to dive into, and as they
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died and all the people they've got along with them,
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nobody ever done newspapers before or shot about them.
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Well, I think it worked out really well. Why did
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it end?
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I was outspoken on El Salvador Nicaragua. At the time,
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I was deemed a loud mouth and branded by others
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as a commie a commy.
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Yeah, all right.
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Do you think that that's the only time that you
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being outspoken off camera has impacted your career?
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Yes?
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Yeah, gotcha. I'm probably gonna jump around a little bit.
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You were in the service like before before you started acting? Right?
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Yeah?
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Which branch Army?
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Core?
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And did you go anywhere overseas France? Who? Nice? Was
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there any good memories of that time?
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It was a wonderful experience. I will be grateful to
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Uncle Sam all my life for taking me across the ocean.
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Have you been back since I've been back to France?
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Yeah?
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Oh cool? When did you decide that you wanted to
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get into acting?
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Oh, I've been touring with the idea in the back
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of my mind. Not consciously so, but I think he was.
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You just didn't think of those terms in those days.
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You didn't think that's how you made a living in life.
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I didn't think I naturally, I wasn't handsome, so I
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couldn't think of becoming a leading man. So I tried
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out for a play in college. I ended up doing
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the lead, and I came to realize that theater acting
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was more than being handsome and being a leading man.
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What more?
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What more?
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Yeah, you said, it's more than just being handsome. What
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is it?
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The examiner of a human condition under many different circumstances?
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Nice? What do you get personally out of it? Each time?
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I think it became therapy. For me, it became a
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means of transporting myself into somebody else, alleviating the load
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of not liking who I was.
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Was that an issue?
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I think?
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So are you over it?
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I'm not entirely in love with myself, but I guess
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All right. So when did you decide that you wanted
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to run for the Screen Actors Still President.
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When many of the friends I was surrounded by felt
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that I had to do it to save the union.
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That's what I was going to ask. So did you
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do it for because you wanted to make specific changes?
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Yeah, we had just been involved in a big strike
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at that time. I had been allied with the liberal
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wing of the union at that Prior to that time,
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I felt that we should not have settled a strike
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that quickly or that cheaply. So my friends felt that
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I should run and present to the membership of the
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union a more aggressive presidency.
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And were you able to make the changes that you wanted,
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or at least send it in that direction.
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You're never to make the changes you want. There's always
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something that gets in the way, or you find that
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by making change in one sense, you're increasing the burden
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in another sense. So it's time wasted.
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But it took you two terms to figure that out though, right, yeah,
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more than that, more than two terms.
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Yeah, I was on the board after that. I was
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ha been on the opposition, so to speak, up until
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recently when I finally retired from the board, so that
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the battle's still go gone.
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Do you think that SAG protected the actors more then
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or now?
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I don't think they do it now, really, not at all.
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Huh No, they've got big. One of my main reasons
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I did not want to see the merger take place
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because they hadn't solved the problems of portability, portability of pension,
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portability of healthcare, and they still haven't done.
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Do you think they will in your lifetime?
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Probably not.
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Well, well, that's a little disheartening. Let's move on to
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something else. So you've been nominated for I think it's
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over twenty Emmys, right, and you won a couple?
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What do you mean a couple? You don't know how
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to count?
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Oh, how well that is? I heard it was eight.
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That's why I because I heard once somebody said it
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was seven, and then somebody else said it was eight.
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Now, well, I won a Canadian Emmy as well. So
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that makes it eight.
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Wow, where do you keep.
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Them all strewn about the house?
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Nice? Does any one of them stand out as more
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important or special to you?
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Not? Really, not really. The first one was a treasure,
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a surprise, though, I'm just surprised. The second became the
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confirmation of the first, and it goes on like that. No,
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I haven't received any in a long time, so I
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was I got one now that would signify it. You
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folks haven't forgotten me.
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I don't think anybody is likely to forget you anytime.
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In the new future.
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Okay, So you were born in Kansas City. Yeah, and
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when is the last time you went back to Kansas City?
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Well, my brother funeral a year before last.
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Well that is super sad, and I apologize.
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I'm sorry, No, Internet have to apologize.
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So I was in Kansas City, probably about two years ago.
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And there's this thing. I don't know if if it
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was there when you were younger, or if you've been
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back since it's been up, but I guess some farmers
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found in a field like a sunken riverboat. It was
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full of it was like a walmart. It was full
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of everything that they would drop off to the local
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general stores up and down the river, but it sank full,
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and so they dug it up and turned it into
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like this museum. And it's called the Arabia and it's
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right it's right there in Kansas City on the border
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between Missouri and Kansas, and if you haven't been, you
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should really check it out because it is historical and amazing.
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It's my favorite thing about Kansas City. What year was it, David,
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the actual boat, Like, when did it go down? Yeah,
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somewhere like in the eighteen forties, I think, And then
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the river moved and it ended up being like in
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the middle of a farmer's cornfield or something, and they
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dug it up.
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No kidding, Yeah, no kidding.
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I haven't heard a thing about it.
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Wow.
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When I was there, I spent about three and a
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half hours just oohing and eyeing over every single thing.
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It was so amazing. It's like a Walmart sank.
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But a Walmart.
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Yeah yeah. And there's there's everything from tools to you know,
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door knobs and keys and knives and uh, there's beads
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and dishes and jewelry, just everything that you would find
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at the general stores. You know, one hundred and fifty
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years ago. It's amazing. It really is cool.
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Where it is it on the Missouri side or on
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the Kansas side.
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I think it's on the Missouri side. But like, I
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had never heard of it. But when I was there,
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I was asking some people what I should go do
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while my wife was at work that day, and and
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that suggestion came up. And I'm sure glad it did.
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I've told everybody I could about it. It's amazing.
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What was your wife working on?
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My wife builds psychiatric hospitals around the country, and she
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was building. She was building one there and while she was,
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you know, I had went. I had she was there
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to finalize some things, and while she was doing that,
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I went to the Arabia.
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She's really sweet and she's been doing it for about
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twenty five year years, so she's really good at it well.
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And it's a good thing that you have somebody who
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is first.
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It's a good thing sometimes. But when she gets all
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psychiatry on me, I want to get all mad and
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say to knock it off.
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Well, that's yeah, it is.
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It's hard to say. It's hard to win a fight
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around here.
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I know that there are controls in your life, that
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there are limits.
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Well, how dare you?
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Yeah, I'm not married right now, I'm I sure could
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use some limits.
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No, really no, So if.
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Your wife wants to change affiliations.
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I'll ask him. I will let her know. She did
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want me to let you know that she had a
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crush on you when back in the in the Mary
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Tyler More days.
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Well, tell her she has good peace.
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Oh, I will tell her that. So I think that
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you have an ed Asner foundation? Is that right?
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Well, we're starting one. Yes. My son and his wife
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are creating the ed Asner I don't know what the
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exact name of it is. It's trying to create counseling
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and coaching and tutorship. I'm ready for children, but it's
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the center for achieving flowering.
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Is it for a particular autism?
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It's certainly one of the things to be considered. But
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I mean any social burdens would hopefully be handled there,
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be it a d D or be it downs whatever.
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What inspired this my son and his daughter.
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My son has been vice president with Autism Speaks and
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just recently left the Autism Society, so he's been planning
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it for a couple of years.
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Now, gotcha, Well, I will make before I put this up.
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I'll make sure and get that website where people can
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go to donate and to see what they can do
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to help.
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Yeah, that would be a big help and would be
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certainly most welcome.
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So you were in a couple of movies with Elvis Presley,
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if I'm not mistaken, is that right?
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Yeah?
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Did you have any scenes with him?
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Well, sure, not in Kid Gallahad to speak of, but
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in Change of Habit I did.
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And what was your impression of him, because by then
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you were you had been acting probably for longer than him,
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I would assume. Oh yeah, So what did you think
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about how his acting chops?
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Well, the Kid Galahad, right at the beginning of his success,
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he had a bunch of good old boys as an entourage,
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and he was in the midst of practicing karate. I
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think his hand one hand was broken at the time.
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But he was a good old boy and he was
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the bell of the ball and a good guy.
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Really.
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Oh yeah, And the same applied when when he did
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Change of Habit. He was a good guy there too.
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He never stopped being a good guy. Yeah, let's have
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an entourage at that point, but he was much more alluring.
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He was quite the chick magnet?
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Weren't you? Also?
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What makes you think? So?
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I feel like there's some stories.
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But what do you mean there was stories?
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No?
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I just feel like, let's let me hear the skinny.
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Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors. Let's
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get back into it. I just feel like I've heard
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tale of you being a man about town.
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I used uber.
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I don't know.
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I just got you a lift.
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Man, No, I am, I am not well. When I'm
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in l A, I us uber. It's way easier than
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trying to drive in that town.
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Good lord, God, it's horrible.
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Yes, really become horrible.
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It is terrible.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Tell me about Ted. Night you guys worked on screen?
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Did all did y'all have a relationship off screen? Were
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your friends?
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Oh? We used to go out every every Friday night
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after the show with our wives and have dinner drinks.
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We were the cats meow.
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The cats me ow. Did you guys?
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Ever?
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I don't know. Did you guys learn anything from each
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other as far as acting? Ever?
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Well, I saw what it what it was like. Could
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be the funniest man I ever knew, and that was Ted.
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He was I'm a teenage, so it was easy to
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pick up hints watching him. The best story I can
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tell yeah about that one time Gavin and I were
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walking along. Ted was in the midst of a rehearsing
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a scene because the guys watch this and tell me
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what you think. Joy watching It was a very funny scene.
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He was very funny. He said, now we're gonna do
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it again. I'm going to do it a different way,
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and I want you to tell me how they compare
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for you. So he did a different way. It was
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still funny, almost as funny as the first. Thank you.
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I'm going to do it a third way, and you
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let me know what's the third way. It was funny
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too and different. Finally, he ended up settling on the
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first method with some modification, and Kevin and I looked
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and sell of a bit. We struggled to get it
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right the first time and hopefully it's the best that
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we get, and he Kevin liarly waltzes through and comes
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up with three different interpretations, all of which are enormously salable.
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So that shows you these comic capacities.
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What a great story. Thank you for that. So you
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have been on TV, movies, Broadway and you do voiceovers,
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Is there any one of those that you prefer now
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that you're a little bit older.
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Well, Broadway's not a top Broadway never never did enough
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to satisfy me. Working and working and reworking and working
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and reworking with TV, you're going to approach to a
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great job in refining the results film. I had the
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pleasure of doing helf with John Favreau. That was a delight.
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As much as I hate to say it, I prefer
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film to stage. Stage is the way you is, where
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you start, where you learn, So you got to do it.
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That makes sense. What about voice acting? Voiceovers?
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I love it, I love it.
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Yeah, I've done a lot of it.
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I did radio in high school.
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Oh cool.
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Yeah, I was busy being the devoiced continental lover most
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of the time. What are you laughing at.
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Me?
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No, sir, you better than not laugh at me.
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I have a question about the movie Up. I was
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looking at the Wikipedia page for that movie, and it
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says that that movie's budget was one hundred and seventy
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five million dollars. That can't be true, can it?
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They didn't spend it on me?
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Do you think it was mostly advertising?
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I don't know where that money went. Oh maybe it was.
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I don't know. I have no idea. According we didn't
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see it. Dar.
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According to that same article, it made seven hundred and
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thirty five million dollars worldwide. Did you see any of
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that money?
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Oh? Not enough of it.
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So you are well, I guess right now you're taking
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a break, but back when August comes, you're gonna continue
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your one man show, A Man in his Prostate? Is
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that right?
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Yeah, tell me.
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A little bit about that show. What's it well, besides
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your prostate, what's it about?
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Well? My It was written by Ed Weinberger, who was
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a producer writer on The marytoll Moore Show and has
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been very successful since. It's a wonderful show. The wonderful
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show which talks about the fact that every sixteen minutes
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a man dies of cancer, prostate cancer in this country
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and at the same time giving you that information, alerting
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you to that information. I perform It's Attack of Prostate
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Titus on a cruise shiped Italy to gales of laughter.
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It sounds awesome.
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Yeah, it is so wonderful package.
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I would encourage everybody listening to go to a Man
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at Hisprostate dot com and see where it's showing where
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it's touring. I will be picking back up in August
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in New York, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. I'm sure it
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might be other places, So check that website to find out.
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And if you don't like the show, Steve will refund
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your money.
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See that's what I will do. Wait a minute, hold on, now,
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what is it. I don't want to do that. I
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don't want to replace anybody's money. Why don't you just
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tell them that it's going to be a good show
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and they will enjoy it.
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That's it. If you're not happy with the show, Steve
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will refund your money.
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Thanks.
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Ed.
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All right, So same thing I.
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Can do for you, my friend, and widen your audience,
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widen't your appeal. I'll do it.
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Hey, guess what, Ed, I'm going to tell everybody that
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you said we're friends. I have it on recording. You
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said we're friends.
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I'll deny I when I asked me, But go ahead.
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Oh man, okay, So your people sent me your book.
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Your book is called The Grouchy Historian, an old time
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lefty defends our constitution against right wing hypocrites and nutjobs.
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Now this book was I'm in san Antonio, Texas.
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Aha, I've been there.
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Why oh basic training?
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Hey, don't get up.
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But he was me, pal, when were you here?
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I was invited there, and I was I was quite.
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Pleased with Well, consider yourself invited back.
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Thank you, it would not be burdenshome.
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Oh that's good to hear. Good to hear. So your
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people sent me this book. But then I found out
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that you read the audio book yourself. So I bought
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the audiobook and listened to that.
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Ah, you already listen to it?
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Yes, sir, I did every bit of it, and I
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was delighted. It was charming, it was funny. I found
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it educational.
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Yeah, definitely. Is that?
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So since I have this actual hard copied paper book
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and I've already listened to the audiobook, I'm gonna go
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ahead and give away this copy of the book to
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one of my listeners. You okay with that?
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Yeah?
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It has a signature, it does not.
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Well, you can tell them send it to me. Whoever
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you award the book to.
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I'll tell you what. I will mail you the book
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cover jacket and then you can sign that and then
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send it back to me, and then I'll give it away.
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How's that?
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Oh? No, wait, do you stay out? Who want it?
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And then I can I can address it to them personally.
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Oh that's an even better idea.
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I love it, you idiot.
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Okay, So let's talk about this book. Ed Weinberger helped
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you write this book?
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Also, Yeah, yeah, what do you want to say?
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I wanted you to tell me why you wrote it.
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Well, I've been hearing for years, as has he how
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Republicans claim they own the goddamn Constitution, that only they
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can interpret it, that they are the ears to the Irisalists,
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but a lot of crap. We just wanted the American
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people to start thinking before themselves and will claiming the
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Constitution as their document, not belonging to Republicans generally.
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Gotcha? How much research went into making this book?
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Great deal. If you see all the attributions.
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It appears like this was a lot of research went
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into making this book.
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It is.
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It is very detailed, and it dives deep into stuff
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that I never heard of before. A lot of it
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I had never heard before.
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Yeah, Ed, Ed did almost all of the research. I
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have another friend, young lawyer who aided him. The pretty
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rock solid on their bases of interpretation.
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What inspired you to get John Amos to read that
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particular section of the book.
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Well, John had worked at Mary Tayler Worshow we were friends.
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He played for Kansas City in notes days. John used
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to build himself as the most traded pro football player
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in the sport. He's a wonderful guy and he's a
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good actor.
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He's a great actor. Yeah, when you picked up the
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phone and called him and asked him to be a
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part of this, was he excited? Was he skeptical?
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Yes, of course he was. I told him I'd beat
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the crap out of him if he didn't do it.
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So he said, yeah, ed and he did.
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Nice. Have you done any speaking tours with this book.
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I've done book signings and I have appeared jointly talking
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about it in a few places, not a lot.
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Well, I think you should come to San Antonio and
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do one just for me.
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You know, I'm all for that, but with the me
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too gangs out there, I'd be very careful about how
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you expose yourself, not set yourself up to be depredated
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by the me too ladies.
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So being in the business as long as you've been
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in the business.
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Would you agree?
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I absolutely agree. Being in the business as long as
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you have been. Did you see a lot of the
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behavior that inspired the me Too movement?
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No, I didn't see it, And of course I have
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been a huge the times myself of being too forward
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in my approach to women. I am aggressive, and thank
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god I have never I have never forced myself on
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any woman that I know of, and I hopefully step
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for incite chapter and verse to me, and I will
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either acknowledge my sins or combat it any way I can.
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I was never aware of another male's misusage because it's
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a private I'm sure even a Harvey Wartstin do a
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lot of his depredation in trust.
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Yeah, I think so. Tell me about touring. I think
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you played Franklin Delano Roosevelt for quite a while on
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Broadway or well, I toured the country.
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Did it for about four years?
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Now, that's a long time. How was traveling?
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Like?
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How how are you with that kind of travel?
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Well, I'm traveling as much with man and his prustate.
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I don't blossom well with travel, but it's the only
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way we get to show out there.
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And why do you do it? I mean, I'm pretty
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sure that you probably don't need the money to pay
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your bills, so.
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Which I do in your own goddamn business.
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Oh my gosh, that might be the name of this episode. Oh, Ed,
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you are a delight to talk to you, my friend.
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Well you're a good question.
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I appreciate that.
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Well, I sure want to meet your wife.
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Yes, you do. She's beautiful, she is gorgeous.
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I said, tell her I need some headwork.
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Oh my goodness, I probably I probably won't tell her
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that part.
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Why not?
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Oh I don't know. Hashtag me too.
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Oh no, I'm not talking. I'm not talking sexually.
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Oh okay, you idiot.
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You think I would talk like that to you.
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Oh my gosh, you're so refreshing.
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I hope your wife finds me that way.
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Oh my goodness. What do you what's on the horizon?
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What do you got play besides pimping this book and
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finishing this man at his prospect tour? What else do
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you got going on?
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Well, you know, you speak of horizon. And as I
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look out over the Pacific, and as I reached the
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edge of the horizon, I see ships coming, and I
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see the top of their masts, and then as they
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get closer, I see more and more of their masks.
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So it seems like they're sailing on a circle. So
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I have a theory that the world is around?
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Are you messing with me?
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Why would I mess with you?
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Sailor you don't really think the world's round?
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I certainly are beginning to.
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Think, so, well, that is a fantastic idea. I'll have
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to think about that and get back to you.
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By that sea thing I told you about the Gulf,
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and look at their horizon and watch boats coming towards you,
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and you'll see it starts with the mass, and then
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as they get more and more, be more mass formas
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and finally the boat. I think you'll find I'm right.
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Well, I think you might just be.
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Well to hear somebody corroborate me.
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One of my favorite TV shows that didn't last very
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long was Studio sixty on the Sunset Strip? Do you Have?
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Do you have any stories? Or do your hold? Do
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you remember that show fondly?
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Well? I liked what he wrote for me. He's a
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great writer, but I felt he was wasting too much
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time on the love stories of the young people when
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he could have been involving everybody dramatically with me. I'm
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sure the show would have lasted had he done more
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of that.
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Yeah, I think if he focused more on you, I
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think the show's still be on.
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Yeah, of course, Well, I love every time I'm saying
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his words.
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Well, it was my it was my favorite TV show
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when it was on, and it broke my heart and
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it got canceled.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
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Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
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We'll send your heart to me with the with the
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book cover and I'll try to repair.
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It and also send my wife.
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Yeah, all that too. Yeah, I'll pay the postage on
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that one.
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Well, I appreciate that. Is there anything Is there anything
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that you wanted to talk about that I didn't bring up?
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Well, you haven't mentioned your mistress.
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Oh I never mentioned her. That's that's how she stays
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a mistress.
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Well, I can you send pictures not.
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Of my mistress of my wife? Maybe? Wait what.
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Even I'll be glad to slobber and flavor over either
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of them.
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How very flattering.
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I know the way to woman's heart.
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I bet you do. Yeah, I bet you. You've never
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done that a few times, I'm sure.
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Yeah. Unfortunately, my ex wife is not speaking to me
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right now, but when she comes to her senses, she'll
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just start speaking to me again.
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And none of my ex wives speak to me, and
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I'm okay with it. I'm on my third marriage right now.
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Oh my goodness. Well then I certainly empathize.
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And I empathize with you, sir.
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Oh good good And I know that you identify with
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the problems I speak of and recognize them. And we're
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burdge of a feather.
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We are. That is the truth.
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Ed.
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I want to I want to thank you so much
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for your time. I know that it's the gratitude, Amard,
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absolutely not. You made time for me. I really appreciate it.
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I want to let you get back to the rest
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of your day.
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Thank you, Thank you, what's left of it?
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What is left of it? Indeed, I will when this
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show comes out, I will put a link to your
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book and the link to a man in his prostate
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dot com in the show notes so that people can
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go there and buy both of those things. Go see
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the show and buy the book. The book is phenomenal.
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Okay, you guys did a really.
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Good job on that book.
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Ed.
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You should be proud.
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I am, I really am, And that's an important.
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It is important. Like I said, it opened my eyes
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up to a lot of things.
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I was unaware of that's great, that's really great.
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All right, kiss your wife.
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I will kiss her from me, not from you, you scoundrel.
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Why what did I do to you?
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You're gonna have to let me know when you're headed
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this way.
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Oh, I have my k with me, so you'll.
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Know what the heck. No, man, I just want to
632
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give you a ride, that's all.
633
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Okay, then I'll kill you.
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There you go. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
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You have a great rest of your day. Okay, thanks,
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thank you, Sarah.
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You're a delight really good talking to you.
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You too, Bye bye, take care.
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Opening music is the song Magnolia from the twenty fourteen
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album in Transigence, used with permission from Douglas Miles Clark.
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Closing music is Apollo from the two thousand and one
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album Into the Known by the band Sapphire. Thanks for
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hanging out with us and getting to know a little
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bit about our guest. We'll see you next time on
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Fascination Shoot.
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Hey, Street Walkers. This is a throwback episode with seven
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time Emmy Award winning actor Ed Asner. Ed appeared on
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the show twice, but his first appearance on the show
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was July twenty fifth, twenty eighteen, and it was such
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a compelling and fun episode I decided that it needed
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to be revisited. So enjoy this throwback episode. Tell a
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friend and thanks for listening.
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I believe that everybody has a story and I'm fascinated
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to hear them, So come with me as we take
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a walk down Fascination Street.
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Welcome back, guys. This episode is my chat with Hollywood
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legend Ed Asner. Depending on your age, you know Ed
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Asner from the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Lou Grant, even
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the Pixar movie Up. In this episode, we talk about
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Mary Tyler Moore Show, Lou Grant, and Up, of course,
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but we also talk about his new book, The Groucy Historian,
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an old time lefty defends our constitution against right wing
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hypocrites and nutjobs. We talk about his touring one Man show,
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A Man and his Prostate, and he even tells us
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a really cool story about him. Gavin McLeod and Ted
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Knight enjoy guys, this is Ed Asner. And then Hi,
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mister Asner.
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Good.
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Hi, this is Steve Owens with Fascination Street Podcast. How
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you doing? I am doing well? Well, mister Asner. First,
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I just want to thank you so much for taking
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this time. I'm I'm a huge fan, have been for
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my entire life, so this means a lot to me.
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Thank you very much, sir, Thank you, Thank you. Now,
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first of all, can I call you Ed?
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Oh? Absolutely?
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Or would you prefer I call you yit Zach? Well,
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since I'm not Hebrew, I won't call you that. How's that? Well,
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mister Asner? You have been Oh see I already messed up?
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See how I am?
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You are? You mess up?
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Well?
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Ed?
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Everybody knows who you are. Mostly it depends on the generation,
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but either from Mary Tyler Moore Show or Lou Grant
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even roots, the younger generations know you as the the
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gratsy old man from that Pixar movie. Up. What do
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you get the most recognition from?
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Well, some think what I've received more?
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Really Well, that's all.
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That's a number of man, Yeah it was.
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I wanted to talk to you about that. So Mary
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Tyler Moore was a half hour sit Tom based on
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a television news room, and then your character spun off
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to your own show, which was converted to a one
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hour comedy in a newspaper office. How does that work?
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Comedy?
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I'm sorry, I'm in a one hour drama, So how
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did that work out?
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Worked on?
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What made everybody decide to spend lou grantoff into a
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one hour drama?
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Nothing like that? Had it really existed before? The market
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team good for it. They didn't seem to think that
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they could continue creating comedy with network TV. So the
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two producers had been identified with newspapers before. They found
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it an intriguing hole to dive into, and as they
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died and all the people they've got along with them,
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nobody ever done newspapers before or shot about them.
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Well, I think it worked out really well. Why did
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it end?
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I was outspoken on El Salvador Nicaragua. At the time,
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I was deemed a loud mouth and branded by others
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as a commie a commy.
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Yeah, all right.
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Do you think that that's the only time that you
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being outspoken off camera has impacted your career?
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Yes?
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Yeah, gotcha. I'm probably gonna jump around a little bit.
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You were in the service like before before you started acting? Right?
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Yeah?
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Which branch Army?
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Core?
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And did you go anywhere overseas France? Who? Nice? Was
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there any good memories of that time?
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It was a wonderful experience. I will be grateful to
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Uncle Sam all my life for taking me across the ocean.
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Have you been back since I've been back to France?
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Yeah?
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Oh cool? When did you decide that you wanted to
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get into acting?
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Oh, I've been touring with the idea in the back
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of my mind. Not consciously so, but I think he was.
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You just didn't think of those terms in those days.
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You didn't think that's how you made a living in life.
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I didn't think I naturally, I wasn't handsome, so I
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couldn't think of becoming a leading man. So I tried
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out for a play in college. I ended up doing
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the lead, and I came to realize that theater acting
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was more than being handsome and being a leading man.
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What more?
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What more?
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Yeah, you said, it's more than just being handsome. What
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is it?
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The examiner of a human condition under many different circumstances?
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Nice? What do you get personally out of it? Each time?
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I think it became therapy. For me, it became a
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means of transporting myself into somebody else, alleviating the load
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of not liking who I was.
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Was that an issue?
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I think?
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So are you over it?
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I'm not entirely in love with myself, but I guess
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I'm over it.
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All right. So when did you decide that you wanted
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to run for the Screen Actors Still President.
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When many of the friends I was surrounded by felt
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That's what I was going to ask. So did you
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do it for because you wanted to make specific changes?
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union a more aggressive presidency.
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something that gets in the way, or you find that
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by making change in one sense, you're increasing the burden
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in another sense. So it's time wasted.
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more than that, more than two terms.
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Yeah, I was on the board after that. I was
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recently when I finally retired from the board, so that
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the battle's still go gone.
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Do you think that SAG protected the actors more then
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because they hadn't solved the problems of portability, portability of pension,
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portability of healthcare, and they still haven't done.
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Well, well, that's a little disheartening. Let's move on to
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something else. So you've been nominated for I think it's
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over twenty Emmys, right, and you won a couple?
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What do you mean a couple? You don't know how
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to count?
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that makes it eight.
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Wow, where do you keep.
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Them all strewn about the house?
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Nice? Does any one of them stand out as more
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important or special to you?
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Not? Really, not really. The first one was a treasure,
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a surprise, though, I'm just surprised. The second became the
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confirmation of the first, and it goes on like that. No,
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I haven't received any in a long time, so I
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was I got one now that would signify it. You
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folks haven't forgotten me.
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I don't think anybody is likely to forget you anytime.
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In the new future.
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Okay, So you were born in Kansas City. Yeah, and
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when is the last time you went back to Kansas City?
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Well, my brother funeral a year before last.
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Well that is super sad, and I apologize.
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I'm sorry, No, Internet have to apologize.
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So I was in Kansas City, probably about two years ago.
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was there when you were younger, or if you've been
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back since it's been up, but I guess some farmers
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found in a field like a sunken riverboat. It was
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full of it was like a walmart. It was full
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of everything that they would drop off to the local
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general stores up and down the river, but it sank full,
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and so they dug it up and turned it into
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like this museum. And it's called the Arabia and it's
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right it's right there in Kansas City on the border
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between Missouri and Kansas, and if you haven't been, you
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should really check it out because it is historical and amazing.
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It's my favorite thing about Kansas City. What year was it, David,
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the actual boat, Like, when did it go down? Yeah,
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somewhere like in the eighteen forties, I think, And then
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the river moved and it ended up being like in
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the middle of a farmer's cornfield or something, and they
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dug it up.
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I haven't heard a thing about it.
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half hours just oohing and eyeing over every single thing.
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It was so amazing. It's like a Walmart sank.
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But a Walmart.
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door knobs and keys and knives and uh, there's beads
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at the general stores. You know, one hundred and fifty
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years ago. It's amazing. It really is cool.
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Where it is it on the Missouri side or on
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the Kansas side.
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I think it's on the Missouri side. But like, I
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had never heard of it. But when I was there,
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I was asking some people what I should go do
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while my wife was at work that day, and and
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that suggestion came up. And I'm sure glad it did.
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I've told everybody I could about it. It's amazing.
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What was your wife working on?
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My wife builds psychiatric hospitals around the country, and she
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was building. She was building one there and while she was,
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you know, I had went. I had she was there
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to finalize some things, and while she was doing that,
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She's really sweet and she's been doing it for about
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twenty five year years, so she's really good at it well.
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It's a good thing sometimes. But when she gets all
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psychiatry on me, I want to get all mad and
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say to knock it off.
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It's hard to say. It's hard to win a fight
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around here.
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I know that there are controls in your life, that
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there are limits.
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Well, how dare you?
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Yeah, I'm not married right now, I'm I sure could
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use some limits.
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want me to let you know that she had a
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crush on you when back in the in the Mary
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Tyler More days.
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Oh, I will tell her that. So I think that
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you have an ed Asner foundation? Is that right?
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are creating the ed Asner I don't know what the
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exact name of it is. It's trying to create counseling
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and coaching and tutorship. I'm ready for children, but it's
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the center for achieving flowering.
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Is it for a particular autism?
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I mean any social burdens would hopefully be handled there,
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just recently left the Autism Society, so he's been planning
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it for a couple of years.
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Now, gotcha, Well, I will make before I put this up.
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I'll make sure and get that website where people can
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go to donate and to see what they can do
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to help.
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certainly most welcome.
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So you were in a couple of movies with Elvis Presley,
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if I'm not mistaken, is that right?
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Did you have any scenes with him?
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in Change of Habit I did.
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you were you had been acting probably for longer than him,
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about how his acting chops?
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he had a bunch of good old boys as an entourage,
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and he was in the midst of practicing karate. I
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think his hand one hand was broken at the time.
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the bell of the ball and a good guy.
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Change of Habit. He was a good guy there too.
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He never stopped being a good guy. Yeah, let's have
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an entourage at that point, but he was much more alluring.
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He was quite the chick magnet?
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Weren't you? Also?
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What makes you think? So?
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I feel like there's some stories.
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But what do you mean there was stories?
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I just feel like, let's let me hear the skinny.
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Hey, street walkers, here's a word from our sponsors. Let's
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get back into it. I just feel like I've heard
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tale of you being a man about town.
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I used uber.
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I don't know.
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I just got you a lift.
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in l A, I us uber. It's way easier than
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trying to drive in that town.
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Good lord, God, it's horrible.
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Yes, really become horrible.
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It is terrible.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Tell me about Ted. Night you guys worked on screen?
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Did all did y'all have a relationship off screen? Were
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your friends?
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Oh? We used to go out every every Friday night
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after the show with our wives and have dinner drinks.
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We were the cats meow.
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The cats me ow. Did you guys?
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I don't know. Did you guys learn anything from each
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other as far as acting? Ever?
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Well, I saw what it what it was like. Could
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be the funniest man I ever knew, and that was Ted.
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He was I'm a teenage, so it was easy to
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pick up hints watching him. The best story I can
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tell yeah about that one time Gavin and I were
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walking along. Ted was in the midst of a rehearsing
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a scene because the guys watch this and tell me
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what you think. Joy watching It was a very funny scene.
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He was very funny. He said, now we're gonna do
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it again. I'm going to do it a different way,
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and I want you to tell me how they compare
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for you. So he did a different way. It was
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still funny, almost as funny as the first. Thank you.
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I'm going to do it a third way, and you
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let me know what's the third way. It was funny
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too and different. Finally, he ended up settling on the
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first method with some modification, and Kevin and I looked
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and sell of a bit. We struggled to get it
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right the first time and hopefully it's the best that
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we get, and he Kevin liarly waltzes through and comes
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up with three different interpretations, all of which are enormously salable.
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So that shows you these comic capacities.
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What a great story. Thank you for that. So you
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have been on TV, movies, Broadway and you do voiceovers,
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Is there any one of those that you prefer now
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that you're a little bit older.
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Well, Broadway's not a top Broadway never never did enough
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to satisfy me. Working and working and reworking and working
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and reworking with TV, you're going to approach to a
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great job in refining the results film. I had the
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pleasure of doing helf with John Favreau. That was a delight.
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As much as I hate to say it, I prefer
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film to stage. Stage is the way you is, where
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you start, where you learn, So you got to do it.
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That makes sense. What about voice acting? Voiceovers?
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I love it, I love it.
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Yeah, I've done a lot of it.
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I did radio in high school.
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Yeah, I was busy being the devoiced continental lover most
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of the time. What are you laughing at.
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No, sir, you better than not laugh at me.
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I have a question about the movie Up. I was
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looking at the Wikipedia page for that movie, and it
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says that that movie's budget was one hundred and seventy
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five million dollars. That can't be true, can it?
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They didn't spend it on me?
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Do you think it was mostly advertising?
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I don't know where that money went. Oh maybe it was.
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I don't know. I have no idea. According we didn't
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see it. Dar.
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According to that same article, it made seven hundred and
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thirty five million dollars worldwide. Did you see any of
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that money?
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Oh? Not enough of it.
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So you are well, I guess right now you're taking
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a break, but back when August comes, you're gonna continue
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your one man show, A Man in his Prostate? Is
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that right?
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Yeah, tell me.
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A little bit about that show. What's it well, besides
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your prostate, what's it about?
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Well? My It was written by Ed Weinberger, who was
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a producer writer on The marytoll Moore Show and has
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been very successful since. It's a wonderful show. The wonderful
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show which talks about the fact that every sixteen minutes
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a man dies of cancer, prostate cancer in this country
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and at the same time giving you that information, alerting
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you to that information. I perform It's Attack of Prostate
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Titus on a cruise shiped Italy to gales of laughter.
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It sounds awesome.
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Yeah, it is so wonderful package.
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I would encourage everybody listening to go to a Man
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at Hisprostate dot com and see where it's showing where
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it's touring. I will be picking back up in August
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in New York, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. I'm sure it
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might be other places, So check that website to find out.
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And if you don't like the show, Steve will refund
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your money.
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See that's what I will do. Wait a minute, hold on, now,
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what is it. I don't want to do that. I
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don't want to replace anybody's money. Why don't you just
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tell them that it's going to be a good show
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and they will enjoy it.
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That's it. If you're not happy with the show, Steve
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will refund your money.
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Thanks.
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Ed.
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All right, So same thing I.
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Can do for you, my friend, and widen your audience,
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widen't your appeal. I'll do it.
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Hey, guess what, Ed, I'm going to tell everybody that
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you said we're friends. I have it on recording. You
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said we're friends.
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I'll deny I when I asked me, But go ahead.
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Oh man, okay, So your people sent me your book.
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Your book is called The Grouchy Historian, an old time
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lefty defends our constitution against right wing hypocrites and nutjobs.
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Now this book was I'm in san Antonio, Texas.
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Aha, I've been there.
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Why oh basic training?
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Hey, don't get up.
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But he was me, pal, when were you here?
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I was invited there, and I was I was quite.
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Pleased with Well, consider yourself invited back.
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Thank you, it would not be burdenshome.
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Oh that's good to hear. Good to hear. So your
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people sent me this book. But then I found out
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that you read the audio book yourself. So I bought
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the audiobook and listened to that.
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Ah, you already listen to it?
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Yes, sir, I did every bit of it, and I
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was delighted. It was charming, it was funny. I found
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it educational.
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Yeah, definitely. Is that?
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So since I have this actual hard copied paper book
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and I've already listened to the audiobook, I'm gonna go
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ahead and give away this copy of the book to
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one of my listeners. You okay with that?
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Yeah?
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It has a signature, it does not.
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Well, you can tell them send it to me. Whoever
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you award the book to.
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I'll tell you what. I will mail you the book
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cover jacket and then you can sign that and then
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send it back to me, and then I'll give it away.
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How's that?
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Oh? No, wait, do you stay out? Who want it?
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And then I can I can address it to them personally.
441
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Oh that's an even better idea.
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I love it, you idiot.
443
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Okay, So let's talk about this book. Ed Weinberger helped
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you write this book?
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Also, Yeah, yeah, what do you want to say?
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I wanted you to tell me why you wrote it.
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Well, I've been hearing for years, as has he how
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Republicans claim they own the goddamn Constitution, that only they
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can interpret it, that they are the ears to the Irisalists,
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but a lot of crap. We just wanted the American
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people to start thinking before themselves and will claiming the
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Constitution as their document, not belonging to Republicans generally.
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Gotcha? How much research went into making this book?
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Great deal. If you see all the attributions.
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It appears like this was a lot of research went
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into making this book.
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It is.
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It is very detailed, and it dives deep into stuff
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that I never heard of before. A lot of it
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I had never heard before.
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Yeah, Ed, Ed did almost all of the research. I
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have another friend, young lawyer who aided him. The pretty
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rock solid on their bases of interpretation.
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What inspired you to get John Amos to read that
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particular section of the book.
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Well, John had worked at Mary Tayler Worshow we were friends.
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He played for Kansas City in notes days. John used
468
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to build himself as the most traded pro football player
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in the sport. He's a wonderful guy and he's a
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good actor.
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He's a great actor. Yeah, when you picked up the
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phone and called him and asked him to be a
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part of this, was he excited? Was he skeptical?
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Yes, of course he was. I told him I'd beat
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the crap out of him if he didn't do it.
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So he said, yeah, ed and he did.
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Nice. Have you done any speaking tours with this book.
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I've done book signings and I have appeared jointly talking
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about it in a few places, not a lot.
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Well, I think you should come to San Antonio and
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do one just for me.
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You know, I'm all for that, but with the me
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too gangs out there, I'd be very careful about how
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you expose yourself, not set yourself up to be depredated
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by the me too ladies.
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So being in the business as long as you've been
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in the business.
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Would you agree?
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I absolutely agree. Being in the business as long as
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you have been. Did you see a lot of the
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behavior that inspired the me Too movement?
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No, I didn't see it, And of course I have
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been a huge the times myself of being too forward
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in my approach to women. I am aggressive, and thank
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god I have never I have never forced myself on
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any woman that I know of, and I hopefully step
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for incite chapter and verse to me, and I will
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either acknowledge my sins or combat it any way I can.
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I was never aware of another male's misusage because it's
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a private I'm sure even a Harvey Wartstin do a
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lot of his depredation in trust.
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Yeah, I think so. Tell me about touring. I think
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you played Franklin Delano Roosevelt for quite a while on
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Broadway or well, I toured the country.
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Did it for about four years?
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Now, that's a long time. How was traveling?
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Like?
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How how are you with that kind of travel?
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Well, I'm traveling as much with man and his prustate.
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I don't blossom well with travel, but it's the only
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way we get to show out there.
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And why do you do it? I mean, I'm pretty
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sure that you probably don't need the money to pay
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your bills, so.
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Which I do in your own goddamn business.
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00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:12.799
Oh my gosh, that might be the name of this episode. Oh, Ed,
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you are a delight to talk to you, my friend.
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Well you're a good question.
519
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I appreciate that.
520
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Well, I sure want to meet your wife.
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Yes, you do. She's beautiful, she is gorgeous.
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I said, tell her I need some headwork.
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Oh my goodness, I probably I probably won't tell her
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that part.
525
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Why not?
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00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.000
Oh I don't know. Hashtag me too.
527
00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:43.640
Oh no, I'm not talking. I'm not talking sexually.
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Oh okay, you idiot.
529
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You think I would talk like that to you.
530
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Oh my gosh, you're so refreshing.
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I hope your wife finds me that way.
532
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.400
Oh my goodness. What do you what's on the horizon?
533
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What do you got play besides pimping this book and
534
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.960
finishing this man at his prospect tour? What else do
535
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you got going on?
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00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:09.480
Well, you know, you speak of horizon. And as I
537
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look out over the Pacific, and as I reached the
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edge of the horizon, I see ships coming, and I
539
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see the top of their masts, and then as they
540
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get closer, I see more and more of their masks.
541
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.680
So it seems like they're sailing on a circle. So
542
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I have a theory that the world is around?
543
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Are you messing with me?
544
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Why would I mess with you?
545
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Sailor you don't really think the world's round?
546
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I certainly are beginning to.
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Think, so, well, that is a fantastic idea. I'll have
548
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to think about that and get back to you.
549
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By that sea thing I told you about the Gulf,
550
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and look at their horizon and watch boats coming towards you,
551
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and you'll see it starts with the mass, and then
552
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as they get more and more, be more mass formas
553
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and finally the boat. I think you'll find I'm right.
554
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Well, I think you might just be.
555
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Well to hear somebody corroborate me.
556
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One of my favorite TV shows that didn't last very
557
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long was Studio sixty on the Sunset Strip? Do you Have?
558
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Do you have any stories? Or do your hold? Do
559
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you remember that show fondly?
560
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Well? I liked what he wrote for me. He's a
561
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great writer, but I felt he was wasting too much
562
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time on the love stories of the young people when
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he could have been involving everybody dramatically with me. I'm
564
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sure the show would have lasted had he done more
565
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of that.
566
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.519
Yeah, I think if he focused more on you, I
567
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think the show's still be on.
568
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:53.119
Yeah, of course, Well, I love every time I'm saying
569
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his words.
570
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Well, it was my it was my favorite TV show
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when it was on, and it broke my heart and
572
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it got canceled.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
574
00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:04.319
Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
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We'll send your heart to me with the with the
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book cover and I'll try to repair.
577
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It and also send my wife.
578
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.359
Yeah, all that too. Yeah, I'll pay the postage on
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that one.
580
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.319
Well, I appreciate that. Is there anything Is there anything
581
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that you wanted to talk about that I didn't bring up?
582
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:29.839
Well, you haven't mentioned your mistress.
583
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.279
Oh I never mentioned her. That's that's how she stays
584
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a mistress.
585
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:39.119
Well, I can you send pictures not.
586
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Of my mistress of my wife? Maybe? Wait what.
587
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:48.240
Even I'll be glad to slobber and flavor over either
588
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of them.
589
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:50.799
How very flattering.
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I know the way to woman's heart.
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I bet you do. Yeah, I bet you. You've never
592
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done that a few times, I'm sure.
593
00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:06.160
Yeah. Unfortunately, my ex wife is not speaking to me
594
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.000
right now, but when she comes to her senses, she'll
595
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just start speaking to me again.
596
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And none of my ex wives speak to me, and
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I'm okay with it. I'm on my third marriage right now.
598
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.200
Oh my goodness. Well then I certainly empathize.
599
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.200
And I empathize with you, sir.
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Oh good good And I know that you identify with
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the problems I speak of and recognize them. And we're
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burdge of a feather.
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We are. That is the truth.
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Ed.
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I want to I want to thank you so much
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for your time. I know that it's the gratitude, Amard,
607
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:56.319
absolutely not. You made time for me. I really appreciate it.
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I want to let you get back to the rest
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of your day.
610
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:00.960
Thank you, Thank you, what's left of it?
611
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What is left of it? Indeed, I will when this
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show comes out, I will put a link to your
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book and the link to a man in his prostate
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dot com in the show notes so that people can
615
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go there and buy both of those things. Go see
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the show and buy the book. The book is phenomenal.
617
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.200
Okay, you guys did a really.
618
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Good job on that book.
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Ed.
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You should be proud.
621
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I am, I really am, And that's an important.
622
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It is important. Like I said, it opened my eyes
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up to a lot of things.
624
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:33.319
I was unaware of that's great, that's really great.
625
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:35.440
All right, kiss your wife.
626
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:39.079
I will kiss her from me, not from you, you scoundrel.
627
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:45.759
Why what did I do to you?
628
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:47.519
You're gonna have to let me know when you're headed
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this way.
630
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:52.720
Oh, I have my k with me, so you'll.
631
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.480
Know what the heck. No, man, I just want to
632
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:55.599
give you a ride, that's all.
633
00:33:56.920 --> 00:34:01.240
Okay, then I'll kill you.
634
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There you go. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.
635
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You have a great rest of your day. Okay, thanks,
636
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thank you, Sarah.
637
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You're a delight really good talking to you.
638
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You too, Bye bye, take care.
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Opening music is the song Magnolia from the twenty fourteen
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album in Transigence, used with permission from Douglas Miles Clark.
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Closing music is Apollo from the two thousand and one
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album Into the Known by the band Sapphire. Thanks for
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hanging out with us and getting to know a little
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bit about our guest. We'll see you next time on
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Fascination Shoot.
