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Interrogation rooms hold some of the most horrifying, saddening, and
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life changing moments in history. So here are some of
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the craziest interrogation moments of all time. Starting out with
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Thomas Robinson, a twenty seven year old facing life in
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prison after shooting a seventeen year old boy. But Thomas
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wasn't going down easily. In fact, he was determined to
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make the cops live as difficult as he could in
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the most dangerous ways imaginable. As the policeman moves to
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handcuff him, Thomas leans over and glances at the holster
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on the cops waist, where he gets an idea that
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could end in depth for him and the officer.
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You could get it.
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Thomas made a leap for the cops gun, but due
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to safety features built into the holster, he wasn't able
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to get it out. After a short struggle, two more
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cops entered the room with tasers to subdue him, and
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he was eventually restrained without further issue. This obviously just
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looks like a case where the suspect wanted to escape
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and was prepared to do so by any means necessary.
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But take another listen to what he's saying as he's
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fighting with the cops, if he was really trying to escape,
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it's unlikely he'd be repeating the words kill me from
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the get go. Instead, it's possible that Thomas was so
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terrified of his sentence and the position he was in
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that he made the radical move to scare the officers
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in hopes that they'd shoot him and spare him from
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what's to come. Bringing a firearm into an interrogation room
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is an incredibly foolish idea, and the majority of police
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departments forbid it for the safety of the detectives. But
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it seems this Las Vegas police department also forgot about
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that rule and come incredibly close to seeing the consequences.
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This man convicted of killing a two year old boy
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actually managed to retrieve the gun from the detective's holster,
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resulting in a mad scramble to get it back off him.
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It took three separate officers and multiple punches to the
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head to reclaim the firearm. Somehow nobody was hurt. But
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Ryan Waller wasn't so lucky, as his story ends in
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a truly horrifying way. After he was brought in for
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interrogation with a bullet still stuck in his head.
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You're telling me they shot you with a revolver in
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your eye?
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Is it a baby gun?
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No, it was a real gun man. It was just
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at you.
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In the eye. You want to be talking to me
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right now. It was most likely you be dead.
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But little did police officers know he was actually telling
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the truth as well. Eighteen year old Ryan was being
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mocked by detectives. He was suffering from a gunshot to
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the head and experiencing a brain bleed that could end
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his life at any moment.
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Sleep trigger, You're not going back to that.
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On the twenty third of December two thousand and six,
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two men broke into Ryan Waller's house looking for revenge
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for a past argument. Ryan heard the noise at the door,
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but when he went to investigate, a hand reached inside
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and shot him twice in the eye. The two men,
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Ritchie and Larry Carver, then entered his house and shot
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Ryan's girlfriend, Heather, killing her instantly. By some miracle, eighteen
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year old Ryan survived and was able to talk to
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police when they arrived hours later. Given he'd just been
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shot in the head. He told them he had no
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idea what happened, but instead of being taken straight to
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the hospital, he was taken to the police station and
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interrogated for the longest hour of his life. Before the
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interview started, Ryan was left in the room alone. He
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squirmed in pain for twenty minutes straight, and worse yet,
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he was handcuffed to the desk and unable to scream
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for help.
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M Ryan is obviously not okay, but the detectives begin
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the interrogation.
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Anyway, you know why you're down here?
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Ryan?
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You have no idea why you're down here. Okay, I
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don't know what happened. Okay, So how do I read
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you something to make sure you understand your rights?
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Okay? Okay, you have a right to read silent making
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you say, can't be you skins in a quarter long?
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What's the highest grade you went through school?
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Oh?
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I just want to go home.
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Oh you're not going to go home right now? What's
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the highest grade that you can play?
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Be?
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No? That grade as in letter grade? I'm asking, did
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you graduate high school?
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No?
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Do you know how to read?
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Right?
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Ryan?
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Yeah?
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The way the detective is talking to Ryan implies that
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he knows something is wrong. He's raising his voice, slightly,
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slowing down, and talking in very simplified language, just as
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you were a child. Yet, even with the massive red
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mark around Ryan's face and the dazed responses he's giving,
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the detective still decides that nothing is wrong and continues
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questioning him.
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Do you have a girlfriend?
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Mmmm mm hm? No, you know a girl named Heather,
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the one that lives there right now.
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I guess I don't know. Her name's Heather? What's her
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last name?
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I don't know what's the names she's trying to use.
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The last one, she's trying to have a real last
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that's her nickname, So I don't know what nickname does
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she go by. She probably wants the last name thiming
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Kimate as old as Heather, sixteen or seventeen? What happened
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to your face?
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I don't know.
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You told the officer just a few minutes ago that
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someone hit you. Do you remember who hit you? Think
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it was Heather?
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Why would Heather hit you?
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That was an accident? I forgot why?
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What was an accident?
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Heather's last name?
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No?
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What was an accident?
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Heather hitting me?
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What happened for her to hit you? Any high like that?
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She just hit me in an accident.
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She was giving Christina, I had she was what she
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was having Christina with her.
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Hair or something. I don't know.
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Who's Christina.
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She was on the couch.
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Christine's on the couch.
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Ryan and Heather lived with another person whose name isn't public.
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There's a possibility that it's the Christina he's referring to here,
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but either way, nobody else was home at any point
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of the night of the attack. Ryan is clearly suffering
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traumatic brain injury, and it's astonishing that the detective isn't
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connecting the dots. Even if it was just blunt force,
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like Ryan is telling him, he still should be checked
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out by a doctor given how he's acting, But of
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course that's not how it happens. Instead, it somehow gets
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even more messed up.
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What happened last night?
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I don't know, you don't know. I really don't. I
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just want to go to sleep and go to sleep.
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Who was in the house when you went to sleep?
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Christina and Heather, Christina and Heather, and Christina was on
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a couch.
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How there was Heather was on a couch. He told
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me Christina was on a couch just a minute ago.
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I don't know, man, I really don't, I really don't.
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I just wanna go and go to sleep, man, Why.
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You're not gonna go anywhere? Do you know what happened
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in your house last night?
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Mm mm? Why what happened?
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I don't know what happened. You're all beat up, so
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tell me what happened.
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I don't know. I just wanna go to sleep.
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Man.
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There's a dead girl in your living room.
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She's dead. Yes, Heather, the girl on the couch is dead.
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I don't know if she's any college. She's dead.
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Well, these people came over Richie and his dad with
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shooting arrow blowing darts, you know what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, they hit me and her with those. That's it.
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And Heather wasn't there, and Eric wasn't there. But it
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was just me.
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And Heathers And then what happened and that's it. Oh,
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Richie and his dad tried to break in to the back.
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Richie and dad his dad? Who's Richie?
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I don't know?
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Well, you obviously know him. You know what's name?
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Was?
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He?
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A roommater Gears? He used to be.
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They hit you, Yeah, now it's Richie. They hit you,
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not Heather.
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Now Richie and his dad why because they're trying to
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get their stuff I don't know why.
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And they had some kind of bow and arrows.
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They each had two revolvers, and they didn't laugh any shells. Okay,
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you just said they had bow and arrows. Now they
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have revolvers.
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That's what I meant.
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They had revolvers. They have revolvers, yes, And then what happened?
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And then they shot us doves.
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They shot both of you. Yeah, where they shoot you at?
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Shut in the eye? You getting shot in the eye.
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I think so with the revolver, I think, I don't know, man,
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I don't know. Then what happened, I don't know. I
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don't know a lot, all right, I don't, man.
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I really don't.
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I'd like to see this detective trying articulate himself anywhere
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near as Ryan is in this situation. He's managed to
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recount the exact sequence of events, as well as the
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perpetrator's names with the revolver bullet's still in his brain.
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It does sound like an unbelievable story, and that's probably
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why the cop is essentially laughing at him by now,
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But that still doesn't excuse any part of what's going on.
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He's obviously distressed in pain and needs to go to
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the hospital, but he's still more than half an hour
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away from any form of salvation.
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Ryan, when do you tell me what really happened there?
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Because I don't believe.
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I really don't know, man, I really don't I don't know.
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I have to tell you anything, I swear. I want
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you to tell me the truth.
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That's all I want. Richie and his dad came there,
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and I don't know why. I don't know why. I
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don't know why.
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But they put me in sleeping hold, and like they
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put me in sleeping hold with the arrows and shit,
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like I live through the craft.
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You're all over the board here a number one.
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They're seeing bows and arrows, you're seeing revolvers, and you're
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saying something and they you're saying, they shot you in
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the eye.
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Okay, they shot you with a revolver in your eye, yes?
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And is it a bab gun?
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No, it was a real gun.
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Man.
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It was just a shot you in the eye with
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a revolver. You wouldn't be talking to me right now.
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It was most likely you be dead.
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That's what I thought, too.
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Man.
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I really don't know. I really don't know, And I
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just want to go back to sleep and try to
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go back to it.
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You're not going back to that, Okay, that's not gonna happen.
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What happened to Heather? Heather got shot? Where did you
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get shot? Inside of the face? Once she got shot
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in the side of the face. How close were you to her?
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What she got shot in the face?
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It was after I got shirt, so I didn't even
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hear anything. So you got shot first? And what happened?
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Did you call nine one one? Did you see if
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she was alive?
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She was sleeping still, and that's it. I just let
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her sleep.
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She got shot in the side of the face and
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you let her sleep.
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Yes, this does not make sense, Ryan, I know I
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didn't need you, man, I'm sorry. I didn't know if
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she was passing out.
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That's because I got shot wrong ones too, and I
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was gonna pass out.
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Okay, this is now, not before you're saying, right now,
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you've been shot, Yes in the eye, Yes, with the revolver.
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Yes, alright, Ryan, you need to.
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Start telling me the truth cause your story doesn't make sense.
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I'm trying, man, I don't know what happened with you
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and Heather last night.
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Her dad came and shot the house.
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And shot her.
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Her dad shot her alright, and then leaves. And what
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did you do?
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I tried to go back to sleep after you've been
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shot in the eye.
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You didn't know enough to call ninety one one? Mm
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mm whyan look at me, Ryan. Yes, I don't know, man,
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I really don't know.
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How did you shoot Heather? Ryan?
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I didn't shoot Heather. She was already shot once by
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her brother.
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I swear Ritchie, Yes, Richie shot his own sister.
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Yes, I swear, that's it said.
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And you've been shot in the eye.
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Yes, put your put your legs, put your legs down,
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Put your legs down.
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Bring your face closer. Oh my head hurts.
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Okay, yeah, far back.
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might be in some form of physical distress. He leaves
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the room to ask for an ambulance and returns momentarily
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to try and get a few more details about the
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shooting it. Ryan clarifies that Heather isn't related to Richie
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or his dad, and that he's got no idea why
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they attacked him that evening. Ten minutes later, the fire
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department arrives to take a look at Ryan's injury, as acting.
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Like he has a service head injury, which would make sense.
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What you Ryan, Yeah, we'll take him. I don't know why.
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I wouldn't tell.
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Done all that.
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Has it been like that before?
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It just happened Tony or so what it happened. But
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the other n I don't know.
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Were their guns around? Kid? Eric did it. I don't
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know how he did it exactly. I might have been shot,
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I don't know.
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Ryan gets his blood pressure taken, and finally, after fifty
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six minutes of unnecessary and ultimately deadly interrogation, He's taken
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to the hospital. Upon inspection at the hospital, doctors immediately
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realized his status was critical and that he he also
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had indeed been shot in the eye. They also told
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his father that he'd contracted an infection that could have
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been prevented had he received proper care. Ryan stayed at
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the hospital for thirty five days and lost part of
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his brain and his left eye. Worst of although, he
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experienced regular seizures from the day he left the hospital
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until twenty sixteen, when one finally took his life. Richie
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and Larry were both given life in prison without the
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possibility of parole. Ryan's father also sued the police department,
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but as is so often the case, he only received
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a fraction of the punishment, less than three years in prison.
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Many people believe this officer should be charged with assault
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and possibly even murder, and that three years is absolutely
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not enough, especially compared to cases like Red Durrance, who's
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facing up to thirty years in prison after attacking a cop.
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Reid was arrested at an elementary school after he was
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seen pretending to be the father of a kindergartener. Reid
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was seen to be acting strangely around the kids and
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failed to correctly name any of the children there, so
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he was arrested and taken to the police station. In
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the interrogation, Reed freely told officers that he intended to
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lure one of the children out, feed them candy laced
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with tranquilizers, then abduct them while they were unconscious. But
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after what seemed like an easy interrogation, Reid suddenly decided
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that the detective had hurt enough and made a bid
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for his escape.
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Out here, put your handside your pack, now kidding me
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right now.
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Reid had picked up a pen and attempted to stab
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the officer with it, but the officer's reflexes and composure
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helps him to instantly take him down and restrain him.
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That ends the fact that the pen isn't the most
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effective weapon either way. Reid was arrested and charged with
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attempted kidnapping and now a felony count of assault. He's
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currently awaiting trial and facing up to thirty years in prison.
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Reid's escape obviously didn't end very well for him, but
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the story is different for Quantrell Schwartzlow, who managed to
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escape the cops faster than anyone in history. Quantrelle was
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brought in for strangling the girl and assaulting her, a
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crime he clearly didn't want to be convicted of.
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Oh no oh.
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Unfortunately for Quantrelle, his handcuffs were a dead giveaway and
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he was captured four hours later. While it's unknown exactly
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what happens to Quantrelle after this clip will forever put
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him in the entire Hall of fame. However, Ricky Hawthorne
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took a much more straightforward approach to ending his interrogation,
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managing to confess in record time. Ricky was found covered
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in blood near the bodies of Lara Kuchar and Tommy Skens.
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Laura had clearly been assaulted Ricky's DNA was also found
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at the scene, so police had no worries when bringing
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him in. Surprisingly, though, Ricky would make it even easier
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for them.
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All Right, hey, come on, hey, sir, yah, I did
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I did you know what? Let's do this.
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I did it, but I think somebody came high.
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So much for staying silent. However, Ricky is alleging that
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he wasn't actually the murderer. He just attacked the couple
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and assaulted Laura. It was someone else that finished the job.
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Even though the evidence was stacked against him, he still
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would have had a better chance of getting away with
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it if he just stayed silent.
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There's three more people I don't know, and you know
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what they was living when I left, But I think
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somebody came in behind me and finished them off.
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I did beat the shit out of him, but it
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was somebody else I left.
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Despite his claims, it was determined that the couple died
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of the injuries inflicted by Ricky, and he was later
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found guilty of the first and second degree murder, as
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well as the attack on Laura.
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Interrogation rooms hold some of the most horrifying, saddening, and
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life changing moments in history. So here are some of
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the craziest interrogation moments of all time. Starting out with
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Thomas Robinson, a twenty seven year old facing life in
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prison after shooting a seventeen year old boy. But Thomas
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wasn't going down easily. In fact, he was determined to
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make the cops live as difficult as he could in
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the most dangerous ways imaginable. As the policeman moves to
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handcuff him, Thomas leans over and glances at the holster
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on the cops waist, where he gets an idea that
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could end in depth for him and the officer.
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You could get it.
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Thomas made a leap for the cops gun, but due
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to safety features built into the holster, he wasn't able
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to get it out. After a short struggle, two more
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cops entered the room with tasers to subdue him, and
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he was eventually restrained without further issue. This obviously just
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looks like a case where the suspect wanted to escape
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and was prepared to do so by any means necessary.
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But take another listen to what he's saying as he's
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fighting with the cops, if he was really trying to escape,
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it's unlikely he'd be repeating the words kill me from
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the get go. Instead, it's possible that Thomas was so
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terrified of his sentence and the position he was in
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that he made the radical move to scare the officers
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in hopes that they'd shoot him and spare him from
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what's to come. Bringing a firearm into an interrogation room
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is an incredibly foolish idea, and the majority of police
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departments forbid it for the safety of the detectives. But
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it seems this Las Vegas police department also forgot about
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that rule and come incredibly close to seeing the consequences.
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This man convicted of killing a two year old boy
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actually managed to retrieve the gun from the detective's holster,
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resulting in a mad scramble to get it back off him.
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It took three separate officers and multiple punches to the
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head to reclaim the firearm. Somehow nobody was hurt. But
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Ryan Waller wasn't so lucky, as his story ends in
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a truly horrifying way. After he was brought in for
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interrogation with a bullet still stuck in his head.
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You're telling me they shot you with a revolver in
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your eye?
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Is it a baby gun?
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No, it was a real gun man. It was just
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at you.
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In the eye. You want to be talking to me
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right now. It was most likely you be dead.
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But little did police officers know he was actually telling
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the truth as well. Eighteen year old Ryan was being
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mocked by detectives. He was suffering from a gunshot to
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the head and experiencing a brain bleed that could end
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his life at any moment.
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Sleep trigger, You're not going back to that.
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On the twenty third of December two thousand and six,
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two men broke into Ryan Waller's house looking for revenge
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for a past argument. Ryan heard the noise at the door,
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but when he went to investigate, a hand reached inside
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and shot him twice in the eye. The two men,
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Ritchie and Larry Carver, then entered his house and shot
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Ryan's girlfriend, Heather, killing her instantly. By some miracle, eighteen
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year old Ryan survived and was able to talk to
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police when they arrived hours later. Given he'd just been
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shot in the head. He told them he had no
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idea what happened, but instead of being taken straight to
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the hospital, he was taken to the police station and
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interrogated for the longest hour of his life. Before the
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interview started, Ryan was left in the room alone. He
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squirmed in pain for twenty minutes straight, and worse yet,
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he was handcuffed to the desk and unable to scream
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for help.
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M Ryan is obviously not okay, but the detectives begin
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the interrogation.
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Anyway, you know why you're down here?
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Ryan?
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You have no idea why you're down here. Okay, I
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don't know what happened. Okay, So how do I read
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you something to make sure you understand your rights?
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Okay? Okay, you have a right to read silent making
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you say, can't be you skins in a quarter long?
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What's the highest grade you went through school?
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Oh?
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I just want to go home.
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Oh you're not going to go home right now? What's
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the highest grade that you can play?
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Be?
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No? That grade as in letter grade? I'm asking, did
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you graduate high school?
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No?
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Do you know how to read?
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Ryan?
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Yeah?
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The way the detective is talking to Ryan implies that
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he knows something is wrong. He's raising his voice, slightly,
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slowing down, and talking in very simplified language, just as
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you were a child. Yet, even with the massive red
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mark around Ryan's face and the dazed responses he's giving,
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the detective still decides that nothing is wrong and continues
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questioning him.
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Do you have a girlfriend?
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Mmmm mm hm? No, you know a girl named Heather,
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the one that lives there right now.
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I guess I don't know. Her name's Heather? What's her
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last name?
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I don't know what's the names she's trying to use.
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The last one, she's trying to have a real last
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that's her nickname, So I don't know what nickname does
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she go by. She probably wants the last name thiming
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Kimate as old as Heather, sixteen or seventeen? What happened
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to your face?
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I don't know.
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You told the officer just a few minutes ago that
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someone hit you. Do you remember who hit you? Think
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it was Heather?
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Why would Heather hit you?
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That was an accident? I forgot why?
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What was an accident?
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Heather's last name?
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No?
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What was an accident?
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Heather hitting me?
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What happened for her to hit you? Any high like that?
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She just hit me in an accident.
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She was giving Christina, I had she was what she
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was having Christina with her.
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Hair or something. I don't know.
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Who's Christina.
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She was on the couch.
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Christine's on the couch.
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Ryan and Heather lived with another person whose name isn't public.
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but either way, nobody else was home at any point
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of the night of the attack. Ryan is clearly suffering
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traumatic brain injury, and it's astonishing that the detective isn't
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connecting the dots. Even if it was just blunt force,
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like Ryan is telling him, he still should be checked
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out by a doctor given how he's acting, But of
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course that's not how it happens. Instead, it somehow gets
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even more messed up.
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What happened last night?
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I don't know, you don't know. I really don't. I
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just want to go to sleep and go to sleep.
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Who was in the house when you went to sleep?
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Christina and Heather, Christina and Heather, and Christina was on
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How there was Heather was on a couch. He told
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me Christina was on a couch just a minute ago.
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I don't know, man, I really don't, I really don't.
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I just wanna go and go to sleep, man, Why.
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You're not gonna go anywhere? Do you know what happened
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in your house last night?
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Mm mm? Why what happened?
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I don't know what happened. You're all beat up, so
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tell me what happened.
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I don't know. I just wanna go to sleep.
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Man.
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There's a dead girl in your living room.
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She's dead. Yes, Heather, the girl on the couch is dead.
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I don't know if she's any college. She's dead.
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Well, these people came over Richie and his dad with
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shooting arrow blowing darts, you know what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, they hit me and her with those. That's it.
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And Heather wasn't there, and Eric wasn't there. But it
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was just me.
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And Heathers And then what happened and that's it. Oh,
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Richie and his dad tried to break in to the back.
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Richie and dad his dad? Who's Richie?
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I don't know?
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Well, you obviously know him. You know what's name?
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Was?
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He?
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A roommater Gears? He used to be.
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They hit you, Yeah, now it's Richie. They hit you,
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not Heather.
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Now Richie and his dad why because they're trying to
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get their stuff I don't know why.
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And they had some kind of bow and arrows.
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They each had two revolvers, and they didn't laugh any shells. Okay,
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you just said they had bow and arrows. Now they
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have revolvers.
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That's what I meant.
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They had revolvers. They have revolvers, yes, And then what happened?
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And then they shot us doves.
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They shot both of you. Yeah, where they shoot you at?
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Shut in the eye? You getting shot in the eye.
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I think so with the revolver, I think, I don't know, man,
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I don't know. Then what happened, I don't know. I
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don't know a lot, all right, I don't, man.
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I really don't.
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I'd like to see this detective trying articulate himself anywhere
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near as Ryan is in this situation. He's managed to
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recount the exact sequence of events, as well as the
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perpetrator's names with the revolver bullet's still in his brain.
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It does sound like an unbelievable story, and that's probably
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why the cop is essentially laughing at him by now,
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But that still doesn't excuse any part of what's going on.
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He's obviously distressed in pain and needs to go to
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the hospital, but he's still more than half an hour
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away from any form of salvation.
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Ryan, when do you tell me what really happened there?
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Because I don't believe.
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I really don't know, man, I really don't I don't know.
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I have to tell you anything, I swear. I want
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you to tell me the truth.
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That's all I want. Richie and his dad came there,
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and I don't know why. I don't know why. I
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don't know why.
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But they put me in sleeping hold, and like they
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put me in sleeping hold with the arrows and shit,
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like I live through the craft.
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You're all over the board here a number one.
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They're seeing bows and arrows, you're seeing revolvers, and you're
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saying something and they you're saying, they shot you in
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the eye.
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Okay, they shot you with a revolver in your eye, yes?
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And is it a bab gun?
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No, it was a real gun.
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Man.
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It was just a shot you in the eye with
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a revolver. You wouldn't be talking to me right now.
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It was most likely you be dead.
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That's what I thought, too.
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Man.
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I really don't know. I really don't know, And I
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just want to go back to sleep and try to
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go back to it.
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You're not going back to that, Okay, that's not gonna happen.
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What happened to Heather? Heather got shot? Where did you
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get shot? Inside of the face? Once she got shot
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in the side of the face. How close were you to her?
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What she got shot in the face?
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It was after I got shirt, so I didn't even
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hear anything. So you got shot first? And what happened?
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Did you call nine one one? Did you see if
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she was alive?
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She was sleeping still, and that's it. I just let
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her sleep.
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She got shot in the side of the face and
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you let her sleep.
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Yes, this does not make sense, Ryan, I know I
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didn't need you, man, I'm sorry. I didn't know if
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she was passing out.
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That's because I got shot wrong ones too, and I
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was gonna pass out.
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Okay, this is now, not before you're saying, right now,
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you've been shot, Yes in the eye, Yes, with the revolver.
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Yes, alright, Ryan, you need to.
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Start telling me the truth cause your story doesn't make sense.
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I'm trying, man, I don't know what happened with you
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and Heather last night.
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Her dad came and shot the house.
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And shot her.
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Her dad shot her alright, and then leaves. And what
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did you do?
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I tried to go back to sleep after you've been
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shot in the eye.
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You didn't know enough to call ninety one one? Mm
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mm whyan look at me, Ryan. Yes, I don't know, man,
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I really don't know.
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How did you shoot Heather? Ryan?
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I didn't shoot Heather. She was already shot once by
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her brother.
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I swear Ritchie, Yes, Richie shot his own sister.
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Yes, I swear, that's it said.
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And you've been shot in the eye.
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Yes, put your put your legs, put your legs down,
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Put your legs down.
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Bring your face closer. Oh my head hurts.
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Okay, yeah, far back.
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Finally, the detective at least considers the facts that Ryan
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might be in some form of physical distress. He leaves
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the room to ask for an ambulance and returns momentarily
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to try and get a few more details about the
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shooting it. Ryan clarifies that Heather isn't related to Richie
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or his dad, and that he's got no idea why
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they attacked him that evening. Ten minutes later, the fire
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department arrives to take a look at Ryan's injury, as acting.
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Like he has a service head injury, which would make sense.
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What you Ryan, Yeah, we'll take him. I don't know why.
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I wouldn't tell.
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Done all that.
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Has it been like that before?
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It just happened Tony or so what it happened. But
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the other n I don't know.
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Were their guns around? Kid? Eric did it. I don't
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know how he did it exactly. I might have been shot,
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I don't know.
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Ryan gets his blood pressure taken, and finally, after fifty
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six minutes of unnecessary and ultimately deadly interrogation, He's taken
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to the hospital. Upon inspection at the hospital, doctors immediately
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realized his status was critical and that he he also
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had indeed been shot in the eye. They also told
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his father that he'd contracted an infection that could have
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been prevented had he received proper care. Ryan stayed at
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the hospital for thirty five days and lost part of
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his brain and his left eye. Worst of although, he
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experienced regular seizures from the day he left the hospital
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until twenty sixteen, when one finally took his life. Richie
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and Larry were both given life in prison without the
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possibility of parole. Ryan's father also sued the police department,
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but as is so often the case, he only received
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a fraction of the punishment, less than three years in prison.
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Many people believe this officer should be charged with assault
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and possibly even murder, and that three years is absolutely
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not enough, especially compared to cases like Red Durrance, who's
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facing up to thirty years in prison after attacking a cop.
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Reid was arrested at an elementary school after he was
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seen pretending to be the father of a kindergartener. Reid
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was seen to be acting strangely around the kids and
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failed to correctly name any of the children there, so
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he was arrested and taken to the police station. In
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the interrogation, Reed freely told officers that he intended to
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lure one of the children out, feed them candy laced
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with tranquilizers, then abduct them while they were unconscious. But
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after what seemed like an easy interrogation, Reid suddenly decided
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that the detective had hurt enough and made a bid
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for his escape.
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Out here, put your handside your pack, now kidding me
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right now.
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Reid had picked up a pen and attempted to stab
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the officer with it, but the officer's reflexes and composure
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helps him to instantly take him down and restrain him.
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That ends the fact that the pen isn't the most
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effective weapon either way. Reid was arrested and charged with
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attempted kidnapping and now a felony count of assault. He's
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currently awaiting trial and facing up to thirty years in prison.
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Reid's escape obviously didn't end very well for him, but
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the story is different for Quantrell Schwartzlow, who managed to
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escape the cops faster than anyone in history. Quantrelle was
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brought in for strangling the girl and assaulting her, a
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crime he clearly didn't want to be convicted of.
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Oh no oh.
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Unfortunately for Quantrelle, his handcuffs were a dead giveaway and
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he was captured four hours later. While it's unknown exactly
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what happens to Quantrelle after this clip will forever put
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him in the entire Hall of fame. However, Ricky Hawthorne
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took a much more straightforward approach to ending his interrogation,
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managing to confess in record time. Ricky was found covered
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in blood near the bodies of Lara Kuchar and Tommy Skens.
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Laura had clearly been assaulted Ricky's DNA was also found
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at the scene, so police had no worries when bringing
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him in. Surprisingly, though, Ricky would make it even easier
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for them.
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All Right, hey, come on, hey, sir, yah, I did
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I did you know what? Let's do this.
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I did it, but I think somebody came high.
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So much for staying silent. However, Ricky is alleging that
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he wasn't actually the murderer. He just attacked the couple
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and assaulted Laura. It was someone else that finished the job.
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Even though the evidence was stacked against him, he still
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would have had a better chance of getting away with
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it if he just stayed silent.
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There's three more people I don't know, and you know
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what they was living when I left, But I think
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somebody came in behind me and finished them off.
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I did beat the shit out of him, but it
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was somebody else I left.
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Despite his claims, it was determined that the couple died
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of the injuries inflicted by Ricky, and he was later
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found guilty of the first and second degree murder, as
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well as the attack on Laura.
