Spring Forward: Inside Buckeye Football’s Early Blueprint

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Welcome to

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where real conversations meet real Buckeye
life.

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I'm your host, doctor Melissa Shivers,
Senior Vice President for Student Life

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and better known as “Doc”, here
to bring you stories,

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Let's dive in everybody.

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Oh my gosh, today you all guess what

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we're talking about? All things
Buckeye football!

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I mean my favorite topic
literally of all time.

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And I get to share this stage
and this podcast

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edition with two of my favorite Buckeyes.

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I'm going to ask them
to introduce themselves.

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We've got Charlie and Tucker from the A.

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Yeah. Atlanta, Georgia.

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That's right.
Tell them a little bit about who you are.

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So I'm Tucker Martin, from Atlanta,
Georgia.

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I'm a first year finance student.

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I was born in Columbus,
Ohio, right here on campus, actually,

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and I moved to Atlanta when I was five.

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But I've always been a Buckeye.

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And, I'm Charlie.

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I'm from a little bit outside of Atlanta.

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It's called Marietta.

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I'm a finance major
with a minor in Spanish.

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And, unlike Tucker, I actually did not

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grow up a Buckeye fan.
But now I can say it's all changed.

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And the blood runs all bluck, all Buckeye.

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We love that. We love that.

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I am also a Georgia native.

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As many of you know,
so I'm excited to have my Georgia Buckeyes

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joining me today to talk about all things
Buckeye football.

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I mean, you all
this is going to be a season.

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Oh it's special.

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It's going to be a season.

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51 new members of our team. 51.

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Isn't that like starting over?

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Oh my contribution a lot of new names.

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That's crazy.

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So many new names, so many incredible
faces that we've heard about.

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We've been waiting for them
to actually enroll.

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And now they're here.

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We got Legend Bey.

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We managed to get that done right.

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We managed to get that done.

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We got Tavien St. Clair.

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We've got I mean, the list goes.

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On and on and on and.

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On and on and on.

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And oh, by the way,
we have a guy named Jeremiah Smith.

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Who we forget about him.

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Who can forget about Jeremiah.

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Somehow we just keep retaining him.

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Somehow, someway.
We keep fighting for that.

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That's exactly right. We are fighting the portal.

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He's a Buckeye.

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He's told us that over and over,
and we're hoping.

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To make that clear.
He did that, made that very.

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I love that no amount of dollars
like trade me from the scarlet and gray.

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We love that. We love that.

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All right guys so very excited
this weekend.

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Upcoming is the Scarlet and Gray
our spring game.

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Yep that's. Right.

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And there's been tons of
lead up to this game.

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Coach just said I think on yesterday
that we're going to tackle a little bit.

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Yeah.

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So so tell me what you're thinking about

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are most excited about
as we go into the spring game.

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And then let's sort of tease

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people thinking about the season and
and what that schedule.

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Yeah that gauntlet of a schedule. Yeah.

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It's going to look like
whoever wants to start.

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Looking good I'll. Go first.

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Definitely the spring game.

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I mean, there's so many fun storylines and
little things you can pay attention to.

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So I saw Ryan Day,
he said that, first string will be thud.

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So no tackling for them, but then second
and thirds will be full on tackle.

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And I think that that'll play
a huge part in the season

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because it'll show us
what our depth looks like.

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I feel like that's something
that in the past,

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whenever we've gotten banged up,
our depth has kind of been lacking.

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And this year, like, like you said, 51 new
members are depth is going to be strong.

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And whether it's the O-line,
the linebacking room,

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like is going to be strong.

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And our depth will show this weekend.

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Yeah, that's a good column.

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That's very true.

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And I think, the defensive line,
the linebacker corps

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will really start the show
with with full contact.

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I mean, we'll be able to see the new faces

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as long as returning faces
just see how dominant they can be.

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Because I think

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they can really be special
if we want to go ahead and get into that.

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Yeah, let's do it.

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I mean, yeah,
we have new faces on the D-line.

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We got James Smith from Alabama
and Clay Russell from Alabama,

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along with Kenyatta

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Jackson returning for his senior year,
which is also which is wild.

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Oh my. God. Yeah.

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So how did we do that? I don’t know.

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Is it that incredible? Yeah.

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And he's wearing number two.

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I know what little that little Chase
Young throwback.

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Oh yes. I forgot about Chase Young.

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That too puts a lot of pressure on him.

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But at the same time, like,
if he can live up to that hype.

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Yeah. And didn't Chris Carter where two?

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What number did Chris Carter where?
I don't know why I thought he wore two.

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Maybe not two.

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Is always J. K. Dobbins. J. K. Dobbins
yeah.

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Chase young.

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Yeah. Two is a big. Number.
Oh yeah big numbers.

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Yeah.

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He's carrying a big weight
with the with that I'm sure that's true.

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That's true.

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Who else do we.

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Who else are we thinking about.

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We also got, our safety room
since we lost.

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Caleb Downs
obviously has a lot of turnover there.

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Jalen McClain, he'll hold down.

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I think he stepped into more of
a leadership role in the spring I've seen.

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Yeah.

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And then the other two safety spots
which is like a nickel

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and then more of a true safety. Yeah.

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I know one of those will most likely
be Earl Little Jr.

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He's from Florida State. Yeah.

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But also was previously at Alabama.

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We'll talk about that a little bit.

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But yeah.

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Let's.

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Do talk about that because he went
from Florida State to Alabama.

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Alabama to Florida.

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State, Alabama to Florida State
and then to US.

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Yeah, but the safety room,

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that will also be a very like big question
mark, not a question mark.

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But yeah, I think will be more of a period
after this weekend.

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And we'll definitely get some show
into that.

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Leroy.

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Follow Caleb. Downs.

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Oh no that's just tough. Yeah.

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But he's got to build his own identity,
that.

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Position
I mean. Yeah. And he had such a great.

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What is he. He's a senior now.

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He had such a great sophomore season
at Florida State that I mean right.

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We know he has the potential to for sure.

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That's you know it's there.

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So it's just a matter of developing into
the new I guess scheme with the Buckeyes

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and seeing where
where he can take it from there.

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Yeah, the ball's in his court.

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No pun intended.

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Literally.

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Yeah.

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So when we think about so

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so our running game, I want to
I want to talk about that.

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We know that we have incredible receivers

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and our running game
is going to be equally as important.

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We know that coach has talked
about spending a lot more time that Julian

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spending a lot more time
figuring out how to get in and out

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of the pocket quicker or being comfortable
running, running the ball.

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What do you all see there in terms of
and I'm going to think

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about the quarterback
and I'm connecting them to a receiver.

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Tell me what you what's your
what are your thoughts?

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I mean, if you can add a second

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level to what Julian can do, I mean
his accuracy stood out so much last year.

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Like that's not a question. No, not at.

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And he came into college at like
I was in high school.

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He was recruited as a dual threat athlete
as a dual threat at quarterback.

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So we know he has the legs.
He use them in high school.

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He was able to use them in high school.

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And so I think last year
he just wasn't as confident in his ability

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to use his legs.
But we knew they were there.

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There was a play against,
I believe it was Penn State.

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State. Yep.

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Where he ending third down
play in the pocket, stepped up,

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took a 12 yard scramble.

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Like if we can bring that out
it just adds another layer

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because then the linebackers
have to key in on him

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having the potential to run,
which opens up more for the receivers.

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And some choices.

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Yeah.

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Yeah I mean coach Day said it himself
that he's been working on that a ton.

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Yeah.

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Another part of the run game

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that I'm keyed in on is our new offensive
coordinator Arthur Smith.

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He has always been a run guy.

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I mean he was the Falcons coach.

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We watched every one of those games
and our run game was good.

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If anything, our run game was very good.

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And I think that with his experience
and Coach Laughlin with the running backs,

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I, I mean, I saw it firsthand
at the Student Appreciation Day.

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He was getting those running backs
ready for this class.

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He really oh yeah, he's
getting ready for the season.

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So I think what the experience
from the offensive coordinator standpoint.

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Yeah. Oh running
game will definitely take a huge jump.

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Yeah.

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And adding on to that Arthur
Smith was the coach for Derrick Henry

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for the Titans.

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Yeah he was the offensive coordinator
when they beat the Patriots.

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And I do believe it's the 2018 playoffs

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with Derrick Henry against prime
Tom Brady.

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So oh yeah.

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So the run game is definitely.

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It's going to take a jump.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

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And what do we think about having
two former NFL coaches.

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And the benefit
that that is for these players

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like talk about what they're learning.

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And how is it better preparing them
to compete at the highest level

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in the NFL by having that sort
of coaching and leadership?

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Yeah, I mean, it

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reminds me of kind of a rocket scientist
teaching an engineering class.

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Like this
person is so advanced in their skill.

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Like if you're an NFL offensive
coordinator

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or defensive coordinator,
they've both been head coaches in the NFL.

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You've seen it all.

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You know the schemes, you know everything.

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So with the experience that they have

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like we saw with Matt Patricia last year
right.

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The first week against Texas,
he Texas had no clue what they were doing.

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So I think that with.

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Tell us how you really feel.

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With.

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More experience for the coordinators.

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It will definitely make a huge difference.

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And I think it'll also help with maturity.

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Yeah, like you said, 51 new guys.

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That's a lot of change to new new
playbooks, new schemes, all that

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having mature, experienced coaches
will make a huge impact on that.

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And it it'll also allow the players
to learn more composure later

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on in the season.

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I think that might be the biggest
advantage is late in the season.

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You know, big time
plays, big time opportunities.

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Having an an extremely experienced coach
who has been in all sorts of experiences.

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I mean, they started low level college
and built the way up to

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both of them are ex NFL head coaches.

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They've seen it all.

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And I think that will that maturity
and that leadership

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will absolutely show out
largely in late game scenarios.

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How do you think having them in our locker
room helps with recruitment homework?

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Go ahead.

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But I it's hard to say no

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when you're getting taught by someone
that knows where you're heading.

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Like like coach, they said he wants first
and second rounders.

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And if that's the mentality
they come into college with, yeah,

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they'll make it there with these coaches,
this coaching staff, it's hard.

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Like they've seen it all.

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They've seen a kid
that becomes a five star.

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He doesn't plan out, but they've also seen
those guys who have worked their way up

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made it to the NFL.

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So it's definitely a recruiting pitch
that it'll it'll work out right.

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And on top of that, they've also seen,
you know, the six seventh round

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draft picks who have panned out
shocked all expectations.

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And they know the work ethic
that they had to put in just in order

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to make the practice squad,
then to get a little bit of playing time

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starting out and typically special teams,
then moving on up to a starting rotation.

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They know the work that you have to put in
and what it takes.

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And so I think if they can start
putting that on a college

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athlete early,
I can't even imagine what they can do.

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Yeah.

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I mean, just think about our
the competition. Right.

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The teams that we have on deck
this fall, you know,

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our schedule is relentless.

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Right.

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Go to Texas,
we go to Austin, we go to USC.

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You're Indiana.

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We go to Indiana.

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Oregon at home.

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Oregon comes here.

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Do we go to Iowa? And we go to Iowa. Iowa.

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I mean, that is at Iowa.

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I mean, we're going to learn quick
about this team.

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And last year,
and I know you all know this.

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We started out with Texas.

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Everybody thought Texas
was going to blow us out

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because Julian was a brand new shiny

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quarterback against their defense.

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And as much as we talk about Julian's ability

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and opportunity to work
more out of the pocket, right to run.

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We won 12 games, right?

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Yeah. Right.

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So it's hard to be critical,
but you have to

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when you think about the kind of schedule
that we have right.

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Coming up. Right.

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You've got to figure out
what is going to be that difference maker.

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And if Julian can do
what we talked about earlier,

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learn how to scramble a bit,
get a little bit faster, more speed.

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Do you all think it's speed or you think
it's agility, or do you think it's.

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I mean.

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I think it's comfort, 100%.

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Comfort in the past because.

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I mean, when he obviously
they have pre-snap checks

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and he could see a blitz,
but I mean, even in that Miami game,

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like if that Miami game happened
at the end of the season, I guarantee

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five times we're comfortable in the pocket
with the pressure.

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I'm so it's a mix of comfort

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and honestly just settling in
like the first half of that season.

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Last year, he was still a freshman
and redshirt freshman.

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I still a freshman. And 19 years old.

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It's hard to go into the fire like that

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and not be so set on one read
and not think about running.

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So with coaching, I mean, Ryan Day’s,
a quarterback whisperer.

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So, absolutely.

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So with coaching and with.

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RJ, RJ, you probably get the whispers.

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Oh I bet right every day.

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Yeah.

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But I think
I think his confidence will be a big part.

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Yeah I do I totally agree.

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And he feels like he's
growing up right in front of us.

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And the the one play this season that really sticks out to me is against (M)ichigan.

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After he threw

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that first interception,
we all gasped, right?

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I could hear a collective gasp
across the country.

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It was loud.

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It was audible, like.

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It was like,
I think my chest started beating way.

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Yeah,
it was just not great. A here we go again.

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What we wanted to see.

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And I remember him
running back out on the field

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and giving coach a thumbs up like,
I got this.

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Yeah.

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And he turned right around
that level of composure.

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In the. snow. In the snow.

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In the big house.

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Guy’s from California. Right.

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He I mean he was solid right? Yes.

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He was solid.

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So and then looking back, that's

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kind of the first time
that he had to have his composure checked.

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I mean the Texan
we could say the Texas game.

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But at the same time
we were protecting him the whole game

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and we never trailed. Right.

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And the game plan was to get an early lead
and just make sure

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Julian is as comfortable as possible,
because that first game, starting.

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A wonderful.

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Game and then every game after that,
we kind of felt like we were coasting.

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And then he comes out those interception

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and that's the first time he's like, okay,
it's time for me to step up personally.

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Like, yeah, it is all on me. Yeah.

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And it was fun to hear coach
talk about Julian after that,

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after that game and the level of composure
that he demonstrated,

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realizing how big of a game
this really was.

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Yeah, I mean.

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Truly, he.

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Knew it
meant more than just a record. Right.

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And so is this abs. Absolutely.

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So when he got the gold pants,
I was very happy for him.

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To see that. They got that they got.

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Yeah, that was very cool.

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I'm still waiting on mine.

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Like I had something to do with that.

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No, definitely. Maybe not.

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But anyway, congrats on the gold pants.

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So so let's talk a little bit about.

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We could go on
and on about Jeremiah Smith,

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and at some point we will get there.

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Oh, let's do it now okay.

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So let's talk about
so you are probably seeing that battle

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a little commercial that.

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Oh yeah. It's hilarious. Is that not just.

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Oh yeah. It's
fantastic that he caught the tide.

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So yeah.

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So for folks who have not seen this yet,
there's this great spot

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where Jeremiah Smith
is sort of the head of this company.

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It was a called Smith Enterprises,
I think. Yeah.

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And the saying was always open,
always open.

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And this gentleman walks in, he's
chatting him up,

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and he's so proud of himself
wearing a navy suit.

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Y'all know where I'm going
with this, right?

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And a maze and blue tie.

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Terrible decision.

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It I mean, I don't even understand.

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It's hard to look at it.

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It's really nice.

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It's really, really challenging.

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And then they come in, he looks at him
and he's talking to Jeremiah Smith.

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And the next cut of the video, you see

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Jeremiah with some scarlet
and gray scissors doing like this.

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Like I'm cutting your tie.

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Next cut.
Yeah. Here's a picture of the tie.

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Yeah, sure.

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That was my favorite.

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And Jeremiah's and in his personality
was really shining in that.

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And, it was fun to tie in
what people have always said about him.

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You remember after the Rose Bowl

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and I interviewed him and somebody said,
are you always open?

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And he said, yes. Yeah.

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No matter what the coverage, no.

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Matter the coverage, yes, I'm always open.

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So it was a play on that from the Rose
Bowl like it was.

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So it was a hashtag.

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It was so fantastic.

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And then a week later
there's the big headline

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that he had been offered
$10 million to go somewhere else

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and think about that $10 million
for one year.

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Right.
So it's going pro. It's that's crazy.

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Probably more than any rookie contract
right now.

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Like salary was.
No doubt about. It. Unreal.

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No doubt about it.

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But he said, I'm meant to be a Buckeye
and great, great.

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Yeah. It's not who he is.
It's not who he is.

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Right. Like that. Yeah, I mean to.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, so Jeremiah,
I had to give that little plug because.

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Yeah it's awesome.
Everyone is. Watching. Good job. Yeah

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he's a phenom.

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What do we expect from him this year.

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Well I mean the bar
I feel like is really high.

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Somehow he came into the offseason
looking to get stronger and lighter.

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I don't really know how that works.

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I don't know how he can get stronger or
lighter, but he somehow has to get faster.

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I mean, he was already faster
than everybody else last season.

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What is a stronger, faster, lighter?

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Jeremiah

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Smith
going to look like this season? Like.

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And the one handed catches haven't stop.

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No. Never let me reach up right here.

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I mean you see the pure athleticism.

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Just casual casual.

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You could probably catch it one handed.
Easier than I could with three hands.

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Who do you think coming up on our schedule
is going to give him?

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From a defense perspective,
the biggest run for us.

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I think that, Dan Lanning and Oregon,
they always have a good defense.

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And after the Rose Bowl last year
and at their place, oh,

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he torched them both times.
So I think that's true.

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They'll be extremely focused on him. Yeah.

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Kind of like last season a couple of times
where Carnell Tate would step up

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or the season
before Emeka Egbuka would step up.

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Yeah.

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I think that not only will he excel
throughout the entire season,

00:19:05.516 --> 00:19:08.150
he also brings
the other receivers up with him. Right.

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Let's talk about that. Yeah.

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So yeah I mean we all know Chris Henry Jr

00:19:13.883 --> 00:19:16.200
kept him even with Coach Hartline leaving.

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Right. That was.

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Fantastic.

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And a shocker line.

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But I mean worst possible timing.

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Absolutely.

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The that's a whole other part.

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Oh my friends we can talk about that.

00:19:28.816 --> 00:19:31.583
But I mean the incoming
freshmen have already excelled.

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We have Jerquaden Guilford.

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Oh yeah. Selling and Brock Boyd who.

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Yeah wasn't a high

00:19:36.750 --> 00:19:39.000
I mean, he's a great recruit,
but he wasn't a highly ranked recruit.

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They saw something and it's shown it's.

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I think he lost his black stripe.

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What the third or fourth practice.

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Yeah it was early.

00:19:45.766 --> 00:19:48.200
Yeah. The first freshman. Versus
first receiver. Yeah.

00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:49.166
First freshman

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I mean the only two people

00:19:50.716 --> 00:19:52.966
only two freshmen
to ever lose their black stripe faster.

00:19:52.966 --> 00:19:55.133
Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate. Unreal.

00:19:55.133 --> 00:19:57.016
I mean if that didn't say enough
that incredible.

00:19:57.016 --> 00:19:59.000
We need to know about him then.

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And I will say I'll give Tucker props.

00:20:00.566 --> 00:20:02.750
Tucker has been on Brock Boyd

00:20:04.283 --> 00:20:06.083
since probably before I met him.

00:20:06.083 --> 00:20:08.816
Yeah. Ever been flipping? He's you,

00:20:08.816 --> 00:20:09.750
Southlake Carroll.

00:20:09.750 --> 00:20:11.900
That's where,
Quinn Ewers came from, right.

00:20:11.900 --> 00:20:14.416
So I, I mean, it's a huge Texas
football school.

00:20:14.416 --> 00:20:16.166
And I saw that we were getting a little,

00:20:16.166 --> 00:20:18.116
like, heat for him,
and then we might have gotten him.

00:20:18.116 --> 00:20:19.733
So I started looking into it,
and I was like,

00:20:19.733 --> 00:20:22.733
how is this guy not a five star? He.

00:20:23.150 --> 00:20:26.400
You watched the film
from his high school days and it's easily

00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:27.900
carryover into the college.

00:20:27.900 --> 00:20:29.183
So yeah.

00:20:29.183 --> 00:20:32.866
So Brock has been talking about him
so much

00:20:32.866 --> 00:20:36.083
the past eight months that I'm like,
you know, I don't know, Tucker.

00:20:36.083 --> 00:20:38.666
Like you have,
you know, maybe a little bit

00:20:38.666 --> 00:20:41.566
clearly he knew something I didn't. Yes.

00:20:41.566 --> 00:20:42.233
Sorry, but.

00:20:42.233 --> 00:20:43.950
Spring ball showed us. Right.

00:20:43.950 --> 00:20:44.850
Brock Boyd,

00:20:44.850 --> 00:20:46.316
I don't know that he may have been

00:20:46.316 --> 00:20:49.950
on anybody's radar as being sort
of the outbreak star that he has.

00:20:50.183 --> 00:20:54.833
And we also have, two transfer
receivers coming in, Kyle Parker from LSU.

00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:59.600
And then, Devin McCune from UTSA,
who are both going to play large parts.

00:20:59.600 --> 00:21:03.466
I saw, might’ve been Coach Day that someone said,
where do to do a lot of rotating.

00:21:03.466 --> 00:21:06.166
It might have been, our new receiver
coach. Yeah.

00:21:06.166 --> 00:21:08.416
Coach Hankton? Hankton. Yeah.

00:21:08.416 --> 00:21:11.416
He said we're going to do more, rotations
than we ever have before,

00:21:11.700 --> 00:21:13.666
and that's a great sign, right?

00:21:13.666 --> 00:21:15.950
If that didn't tell you
about the depth of our receiving corps.

00:21:15.950 --> 00:21:16.766
Yeah.

00:21:16.766 --> 00:21:20.183
Because that is one issue
we had last season.

00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:25.100
I will say when, you know, Jeremi Smith
had what was it his calf or his hamstring.

00:21:25.516 --> 00:21:27.266
Oh yeah. Against Rutgers.

00:21:27.266 --> 00:21:29.850
And then Carnell Tate had his same. Yeah.

00:21:29.850 --> 00:21:31.400
Lower leg injury.

00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:32.966
I mean you can
you have to take those seriously

00:21:32.966 --> 00:21:37.550
because especially muscular injuries
could turn into ligament tears.

00:21:37.816 --> 00:21:39.716
That's something you want to avoid.

00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:41.716
You know, we kind of

00:21:41.716 --> 00:21:44.716
saw a dip in the production
from the receivers.

00:21:44.783 --> 00:21:47.966
I will say
Brandon Inniss did step it up a lot.

00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.200
He picked it up a lot.

00:21:51.450 --> 00:21:52.666
And he's a leader. Yeah.

00:21:52.666 --> 00:21:55.400
And he is really.
That's why I love Brandon Inniss. And it's just.

00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:56.416
That he came back to.

00:21:56.416 --> 00:21:58.350
He's so such a strong leader

00:21:58.350 --> 00:22:02.183
and he'll always do his role, do his thing
and pick up everyone else with him.

00:22:02.183 --> 00:22:03.000
Right? Yeah.

00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.700
Like I know
he said that he's working this season

00:22:05.700 --> 00:22:09.533
to be the next you know Carnell Tate early
first round draft pick.

00:22:09.533 --> 00:22:12.750
But even if that doesn't turn out here
isn't

00:22:13.283 --> 00:22:17.416
he hasn't always expected his time at Ohio
State to be wide receiver one.

00:22:17.700 --> 00:22:19.700
You know right ten target’s a game.

00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:22.550
He knows that if he brings his work
ethic and his leadership

00:22:22.550 --> 00:22:23.900
that will pay off for him.

00:22:23.900 --> 00:22:25.050
And it has. Yeah.

00:22:25.050 --> 00:22:27.533
Which is so commendable. Absolutely.

00:22:27.533 --> 00:22:32.033
And I think that applies to sort of
the mantra of all students at Ohio State.

00:22:32.033 --> 00:22:32.250
Right.

00:22:32.250 --> 00:22:35.516
You all bring your level best
to everything.

00:22:35.516 --> 00:22:36.866
Have to and it pays off.

00:22:36.866 --> 00:22:39.116
I mean, if you're going to be a Buckeye,
you get ready, right?

00:22:39.116 --> 00:22:41.033
You got a pretty good guy.
You got to be a buck.

00:22:41.033 --> 00:22:43.200
You got to be a Buckeye, right?

00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.500
Like you got to be ready to
to ready to bring it.

00:22:45.500 --> 00:22:47.550
And I think, Brandon,
I agree with you all on that.

00:22:47.550 --> 00:22:50.550
I think he's, an incredible person

00:22:50.566 --> 00:22:53.483
who also happens to be a great student
athlete.

00:22:53.483 --> 00:22:53.616
Yeah.

00:22:53.616 --> 00:22:54.200
That's right. Right.

00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:56.600
And that that matters a ton.

00:22:56.600 --> 00:22:57.833
Who else do we want to talk about?

00:22:57.833 --> 00:23:00.833
We we tiptoed around Chris Henry, Jr.

00:23:01.516 --> 00:23:02.900
I don't know how we tiptoed around.

00:23:02.900 --> 00:23:05.116
Chris Henry, Jr., but we did.

00:23:05.116 --> 00:23:06.166
What do we think about.

00:23:06.166 --> 00:23:09.616
I mean, this sheet,
this roster has him listed at six five.

00:23:09.650 --> 00:23:11.700
I think he's probably more around 6’-6.”

00:23:11.700 --> 00:23:15.900
I mean, if you look at him,
he had to be bigger than everyone else.

00:23:16.100 --> 00:23:19.433
I mean, that is literally
a different kind of deep threat.

00:23:19.850 --> 00:23:21.016
Yeah.

00:23:21.016 --> 00:23:22.100
That is unreal.

00:23:22.100 --> 00:23:25.800
A six foot six receiver that probably runs
a 4 or 540 as a freshman.

00:23:25.800 --> 00:23:28.700
True freshman. Unbelievable.
I don't know how you guard that.

00:23:28.700 --> 00:23:31.216
I didn't realize that Kenyatta
Jackson was six six.

00:23:31.216 --> 00:23:31.850
Oh my gosh.

00:23:31.850 --> 00:23:34.350
At Student Appreciation Day.
He says he looks six.

00:23:34.350 --> 00:23:35.450
Oh my gosh yes.

00:23:35.450 --> 00:23:39.850
Wow. Huge I mean that's yeah sorry
I'm going over this roster everybody yeah

00:23:40.066 --> 00:23:40.733
realizing myself.

00:23:40.733 --> 00:23:44.483
Yeah I was actually home
during student appreciation

00:23:44.866 --> 00:23:47.816
the practice
and I was asking Tucker about it

00:23:47.816 --> 00:23:51.200
because like dang, I'm really sad
that I missed that in the first thing

00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:56.266
Tucker said was, dude,
Kenyatta Jackson is a grown man.

00:23:58.100 --> 00:23:58.366
If you

00:23:58.366 --> 00:24:01.366
ever had any doubt, like
if there were no more doubt,

00:24:01.550 --> 00:24:04.550
he is a giant and he is

00:24:05.933 --> 00:24:08.933
built like, yeah, he's here.

00:24:09.383 --> 00:24:13.016
He's pretty lean, but he's like
lean, muscular and it's terrifying.

00:24:13.166 --> 00:24:15.766
Whoever was on the other side.

00:24:15.766 --> 00:24:18.450
Sorry. You're going down one on one.

00:24:18.450 --> 00:24:19.950
Yeah. Yeah. It's insane.

00:24:19.950 --> 00:24:20.400
Yeah.

00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:21.616
Another thing I saw as Student

00:24:21.616 --> 00:24:24.616
Appreciation Day was kind of
just the intensity around,

00:24:25.800 --> 00:24:28.200
the defensive backs
and the wide receivers.

00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:29.750
Great competition.

00:24:29.750 --> 00:24:33.150
Like Devin Sanchez, Jermaine Matthews,
they're all they're getting into it

00:24:33.150 --> 00:24:34.666
with the receivers.

00:24:34.666 --> 00:24:36.466
The O-line, D-line,
we're having one on ones.

00:24:36.466 --> 00:24:38.416
And that was also like intense.

00:24:38.416 --> 00:24:41.600
Like we I feel like last year
we needed more intensity almost.

00:24:41.633 --> 00:24:43.700
Yeah.
And this year we're going to have that.

00:24:43.700 --> 00:24:46.216
Yeah,
we're going to have that. From what I saw.

00:24:46.216 --> 00:24:49.516
I mean James Smith and Earl little,
they're both said

00:24:49.800 --> 00:24:52.250
there's way more intensity
here than Alabama.

00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:55.416
I did hear that poor Alabama right there.

00:24:55.450 --> 00:24:57.016
Their glory days. It's kind

00:24:58.016 --> 00:24:59.250
of go down that path.

00:24:59.250 --> 00:25:00.166
Yeah.

00:25:00.166 --> 00:25:03.383
But I mean we won't get them
having those two players say that that.

00:25:03.616 --> 00:25:05.300
Yeah that's intense.

00:25:05.300 --> 00:25:06.000
Oh yeah.

00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:08.516
Do you think that had anything
to do with Saban anyway.

00:25:08.516 --> 00:25:10.500
We won’t go there.

00:25:10.500 --> 00:25:11.600
I went there, didn’t I? A little bit.

00:25:11.600 --> 00:25:13.350
That game.

00:25:13.350 --> 00:25:15.916
Okay. We've talked about our strengths.

00:25:15.916 --> 00:25:18.300
Where do we have some opportunity

00:25:18.300 --> 00:25:21.166
or space of worry.

00:25:21.166 --> 00:25:24.683
I would say offensive line I mean they're
the least proven they're coming.

00:25:24.683 --> 00:25:27.000
We have a lot of experience
coming back from last year.

00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.766
But standing out,
that was our biggest issue last year.

00:25:30.983 --> 00:25:31.733
Yeah.

00:25:31.733 --> 00:25:33.833
Some hope I mean and I.

00:25:33.833 --> 00:25:35.216
Particularily against Indiana.

00:25:35.216 --> 00:25:37.466
Yes that was their defensive line.

00:25:37.466 --> 00:25:40.350
Both their defensive lines
were strong and big and it was very good.

00:25:40.350 --> 00:25:41.966
That was our biggest issue is

00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:43.616
they may

00:25:43.616 --> 00:25:46.616
not be as big as they could have been.

00:25:46.650 --> 00:25:50.900
And I'm hoping coming into this year,
you know, it sounds like the weight room

00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:54.350
has just been
it looks wonderful for everybody.

00:25:54.650 --> 00:25:58.666
So I'm hoping it it correlates
well with the offensive line.

00:25:59.850 --> 00:26:01.583
And we're also going to have
a lot of new faces there.

00:26:01.583 --> 00:26:04.166
A ton of new faces there. Yeah.

00:26:04.166 --> 00:26:05.866
And that's why it's going to be important.
Right.

00:26:05.866 --> 00:26:08.900
Spring game. Is to get a chance to. See.

00:26:09.133 --> 00:26:12.133
Especially with I mean they say

00:26:12.716 --> 00:26:15.466
during the Miami game
we tried to rotate a ton.

00:26:15.466 --> 00:26:16.466
It worked out.

00:26:16.466 --> 00:26:19.166
So I mean yeah they said this year
we're going to rotate as well.

00:26:19.166 --> 00:26:20.816
And I think that Ian Moore.

00:26:20.816 --> 00:26:23.816
I heard that
he has made a huge jump in the spring.

00:26:24.083 --> 00:26:26.750
Maybe moving Siereveld to guard
I know that's his true position.

00:26:26.750 --> 00:26:28.250
Guard is

00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:31.983
so I think that would honestly benefit if
we can get a solidified left tackle move.

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.000
Siereveld back inside the interior
offensive line if Siereveld is

00:26:35.183 --> 00:26:37.583
at guard will be extremely strong.

00:26:37.583 --> 00:26:38.666
You got Carson Hinzman.

00:26:38.666 --> 00:26:41.183
Been so much experience. Luke Montgomery.

00:26:41.183 --> 00:26:42.416
Dog. Right.

00:26:42.416 --> 00:26:44.300
So much experience there, too. Yeah.

00:26:44.300 --> 00:26:47.600
So I think if you find a little more

00:26:47.600 --> 00:26:50.600
on the outside on the tackle positions
will be set there.

00:26:50.600 --> 00:26:51.800
In staying healthy.

00:26:51.800 --> 00:26:53.966
I think that our offensive line depth

00:26:54.916 --> 00:26:57.683
outside of the next two

00:26:57.683 --> 00:27:00.150
struggle line, we struggle.

00:27:00.150 --> 00:27:02.266
We'll see that on Saturday. Yeah.

00:27:02.266 --> 00:27:03.983
With Siereveld and Daniels both out.

00:27:03.983 --> 00:27:05.966
Well, we'll see Carter Lowe step up.

00:27:05.966 --> 00:27:07.200
VanSickle have to step up.

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.116
So I think that those two

00:27:09.116 --> 00:27:10.850
will show a lot on Saturday.
And that's something that

00:27:10.850 --> 00:27:13.016
I'm really excited
to see that in the running back room.

00:27:13.016 --> 00:27:15.500
We're going to have to see the depth.
And I'm excited.

00:27:15.500 --> 00:27:17.716
I'm excited
about the running back room too

00:27:17.716 --> 00:27:20.866
I just I think that's become
an underrated position.

00:27:21.350 --> 00:27:25.316
And I think that Bo Jackson yeah,
we won't see him. No.

00:27:25.700 --> 00:27:26.933
Bo Jackson and Isaiah West.

00:27:26.933 --> 00:27:28.650
Both out. Will not have.

00:27:28.650 --> 00:27:29.116
Legend Bey.

00:27:29.116 --> 00:27:32.116
Bey is probably out.

00:27:32.250 --> 00:27:33.416
But we'll see.

00:27:33.416 --> 00:27:35.033
Ja’Koby Jackson from Florida.

00:27:35.033 --> 00:27:36.650
He transfer in this year number 24.

00:27:38.333 --> 00:27:39.766
He was good at Florida.

00:27:39.766 --> 00:27:41.450
Very good at Florida.

00:27:41.450 --> 00:27:42.833
We'll see. Favour Akih

00:27:42.833 --> 00:27:46.700
I saw him during Student Appreciation Day
getting coached up by Coach Laughlin,

00:27:46.950 --> 00:27:49.733
and it looked like
he looked very explosive.

00:27:49.733 --> 00:27:51.566
Did he really? Yes. Found the hole.

00:27:51.566 --> 00:27:54.350
I was behind the offense
so I could kind of see the holes.

00:27:54.350 --> 00:27:55.583
And he found them.

00:27:55.583 --> 00:27:56.850
So yeah. I love that.

00:27:56.850 --> 00:27:57.716
You were back there.

00:27:57.716 --> 00:27:59.250
Oh, I. Was first row. We were.

00:27:59.250 --> 00:28:00.300
Oh I had. To horseshoe.

00:28:00.300 --> 00:28:01.550
Where I had to.

00:28:01.550 --> 00:28:04.166
Where else, where else would you be.

00:28:04.166 --> 00:28:06.150
What time did you get there. Like 6 a.m..

00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:07.433
No, I don't seven.

00:28:07.433 --> 00:28:09.083
I was in like the middle of the line.

00:28:09.083 --> 00:28:10.800
He just found his way up to the front.

00:28:10.800 --> 00:28:12.116
Just made his way.

00:28:12.116 --> 00:28:13.950
They always say, oh,
it's like you're supposed to be.

00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:15.650
They're going to stop you trying to walk.

00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:17.600
And you know, one stop them.

00:28:17.600 --> 00:28:19.950
Clearly, no one did.

00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:23.666
Okay, let's go back and talk about the
quarterback spot who's backing up Julian.

00:28:23.700 --> 00:28:26.566
If Julian
nothing is going to happen to Julian. No.

00:28:26.566 --> 00:28:28.400
Sayin. I want to be clear about that.

00:28:29.633 --> 00:28:31.466
But he needs a break 100%.

00:28:31.466 --> 00:28:32.866
It'll be on Tavien St. Clair.

00:28:32.866 --> 00:28:35.366
I've had amazing things about his season.

00:28:35.366 --> 00:28:37.100
Yeah I mean just his arm talent.

00:28:37.100 --> 00:28:40.216
That was never a question,
but I've heard his leadership and ability

00:28:40.216 --> 00:28:44.716
to scan the defense has improved so much
compared to when he was in high school.

00:28:45.316 --> 00:28:47.216
That's good to hear. Yeah.

00:28:47.216 --> 00:28:48.766
I've heard great things about him also.

00:28:48.766 --> 00:28:51.766
We also brought in Justin Martin,
as a veteran,

00:28:51.766 --> 00:28:54.316
kind of more of a coaching role.

00:28:54.316 --> 00:28:55.216
I feel like.

00:28:55.216 --> 00:28:56.166
Where did he come from?

00:28:56.166 --> 00:28:57.700
Maryland. Transfer. Maryland.

00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:59.900
Yep. So he's at UCLA, then to Maryland
and then here.

00:28:59.900 --> 00:29:02.900
So I think he's more of a mentor.

00:29:03.083 --> 00:29:06.083
And usually some quarterbacks like that
I want to get into coaching do that.

00:29:06.133 --> 00:29:06.566
True. Yeah.

00:29:06.566 --> 00:29:08.100
So that's awesome.

00:29:08.100 --> 00:29:11.266
And then for St. Clair
I fear that, we're going to have

00:29:11.266 --> 00:29:12.416
another one of those restless old

00:29:12.416 --> 00:29:16.483
Dwayne Haskins situations where we only
get to see him for one year, right?

00:29:16.583 --> 00:29:18.750
You get one year greatness
because it'll be his third year.

00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:20.750
And then he goes off
to be a first round pick.

00:29:20.750 --> 00:29:24.116
Because I mean he looks see
he looks in the role for sure.

00:29:24.150 --> 00:29:27.350
We Tucker
and I would watch the games last season

00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:31.283
and we were like who's that in warmups.

00:29:31.433 --> 00:29:33.450
Because we were I mean they're
wearing their their t shirts.

00:29:33.450 --> 00:29:35.000
You can see numbers or anything.

00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:38.116
And then we were like, it's Tavian St. Clair.

00:29:38.116 --> 00:29:40.283
I mean his deep ball.

00:29:40.283 --> 00:29:41.850
Beautiful. Yeah.

00:29:41.850 --> 00:29:45.416
Dare I say the best on the team
last season.

00:29:46.283 --> 00:29:47.866
Oh which might be a little bit.

00:29:47.866 --> 00:29:49.650
Oh that's controversial.

00:29:49.650 --> 00:29:55.283
But I mean this whole ball oh 50 yards
in the air like an absolute rocket.

00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.066
I'm, I'm really I'm really excited
to see y'all.

00:29:58.066 --> 00:30:00.500
I came up for the spring game
last year, and when.

00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:01.650
He. Yeah.

00:30:01.650 --> 00:30:04.883
And when he was a true freshman,
he has I mean, they only put the ones in

00:30:04.883 --> 00:30:06.000
for a couple drives. Yeah.

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.866
Quarterbacks don't get hit.
So I saw him in action there.

00:30:08.866 --> 00:30:12.600
And even between the first couple drives
he had in the last couple drives

00:30:12.600 --> 00:30:14.250
it was huge growth.

00:30:14.250 --> 00:30:18.116
So it'll be super interesting to see
how he grows throughout a whole offseason.

00:30:18.750 --> 00:30:18.950
Yeah.

00:30:18.950 --> 00:30:22.016
So another player
with huge growth. Yeah. Is

00:30:24.050 --> 00:30:25.316
Devin Sanchez.

00:30:25.316 --> 00:30:26.966
Oh yeah.

00:30:26.966 --> 00:30:32.266
You know I remember watching
his recruitment and we were nervous.

00:30:32.266 --> 00:30:33.233
Right. Is he going to flip.

00:30:33.233 --> 00:30:35.866
What what are
what are we going to get from him.

00:30:35.866 --> 00:30:38.866
Right. And he's being patient.

00:30:39.150 --> 00:30:40.166
Oh yeah.

00:30:40.166 --> 00:30:41.933
Which I can appreciate that.

00:30:41.933 --> 00:30:44.450
Tell me what you think you see in Devin.

00:30:44.450 --> 00:30:47.100
I mean he got good playing
time last year. Yeah.

00:30:47.100 --> 00:30:48.350
But he had his early struggles.

00:30:48.350 --> 00:30:51.150
He had freshman struggles.

00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:53.216
You know, didn't always seem confident.

00:30:53.216 --> 00:30:56.850
In his first read,
he seemed a little hesitant

00:30:57.116 --> 00:31:00.766
whether like on the pass or run commit or,

00:31:01.100 --> 00:31:04.066
when a receiver would come off his break,
he seemed half a step behind

00:31:04.066 --> 00:31:07.066
all the time. Yeah.
And as a corner. Right.

00:31:07.066 --> 00:31:08.333
It can't be like that. No.

00:31:08.333 --> 00:31:12.416
But as he progressed through the season,
like especially I think the Miami game,

00:31:12.683 --> 00:31:13.700
he stood out

00:31:14.666 --> 00:31:15.316
like.

00:31:15.316 --> 00:31:16.250
Oh maybe his best.

00:31:16.250 --> 00:31:18.983
Game in the season
and just no doubt amazing.

00:31:18.983 --> 00:31:21.466
They were trying to target him because of
what they've seen earlier in the year.

00:31:21.466 --> 00:31:22.850
And he showed up.

00:31:22.850 --> 00:31:24.600
He didn't work at all. Yeah.

00:31:24.600 --> 00:31:28.433
And so I've been hearing amazing things
throughout the offseason about him.

00:31:28.433 --> 00:31:30.416
I'm I'm excited for what he can do.

00:31:30.416 --> 00:31:32.650
I mean there's a position battle
for corner one.

00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:35.633
And Jermaine Matthews had established
himself already last year right.

00:31:35.633 --> 00:31:35.983
Yeah.

00:31:35.983 --> 00:31:37.700
So if he's been

00:31:37.700 --> 00:31:40.766
if Devin's just put in such hard work
over the offseason to have his name

00:31:40.766 --> 00:31:45.200
in the cornerback one position battle,
I mean, he's doing something right.

00:31:45.383 --> 00:31:48.383
Absolutely. As a true sophomore.

00:31:48.716 --> 00:31:49.516
It's impressive.

00:31:49.516 --> 00:31:52.350
Oh yeah, definitely
looking forward to them.

00:31:52.350 --> 00:31:54.083
I mean we saw him in in the Woody.

00:31:54.083 --> 00:31:55.166
Oh yeah. He almost ran us over.

00:31:55.166 --> 00:31:56.516
Yeah he did almost run us over.

00:31:56.516 --> 00:31:59.250
And he's not he's not he's no small.

00:31:59.250 --> 00:32:00.500
No no it's not a small.

00:32:00.500 --> 00:32:01.883
I've seen things that say six two.

00:32:01.883 --> 00:32:06.366
Not so sure if I buy that he is 62-63. 63.

00:32:06.366 --> 00:32:09.016
Yeah I agree
I agree with that because he's not.

00:32:09.016 --> 00:32:09.533
Yeah he's a.

00:32:09.533 --> 00:32:10.366
He's a big corner I.

00:32:10.366 --> 00:32:12.800
Mean three two
all look small though compared to them.

00:32:12.800 --> 00:32:13.733
Oh my gosh.

00:32:13.733 --> 00:32:16.366
Yeah. He's going from meetings
to meeting. Meetings to meetings.

00:32:16.366 --> 00:32:19.216
And they were looking up at him
like oh hi Jeremiah!

00:32:19.216 --> 00:32:20.416
All right.

00:32:20.416 --> 00:32:22.016
Yeah we've we felt the aura.

00:32:22.016 --> 00:32:24.616
We did feel the aura. That's true.

00:32:24.616 --> 00:32:25.766
That's true.

00:32:25.766 --> 00:32:29.716
Any last I won't say predictions yet.

00:32:29.750 --> 00:32:35.183
Any last thoughts that you think
are really important for our listeners

00:32:35.183 --> 00:32:39.533
to hear about what they can expect
from the Buckeyes this year?

00:32:39.533 --> 00:32:40.133
What's that?

00:32:40.133 --> 00:32:43.616
One final if you want to leave somebody
with something.

00:32:44.116 --> 00:32:45.616
What is that?

00:32:45.616 --> 00:32:46.800
Yeah. For sure.

00:32:46.800 --> 00:32:52.433
I think that it'll be a great mix
of consistency and a mix of firepower.

00:32:52.433 --> 00:32:55.650
So last year we had the firepower,
but we weren't as consistent

00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:59.216
this year with more experience
coaching two NFL guys.

00:32:59.566 --> 00:33:02.033
It'll be a mix of firepower
and consistency,

00:33:02.033 --> 00:33:03.683
and I think that's going to be
the most fun part about it.

00:33:04.666 --> 00:33:05.900
I love that.

00:33:05.900 --> 00:33:08.600
You know, I think
look out for the defensive line.

00:33:08.600 --> 00:33:10.883
I am excited for it.

00:33:10.883 --> 00:33:14.416
I don't know the run support, the pass
support.

00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:16.433
It's going to be scary.

00:33:16.433 --> 00:33:18.416
And I think that will be

00:33:18.416 --> 00:33:21.416
honestly, it might be the strongest part
of our whole team.

00:33:21.500 --> 00:33:25.616
And seeing that with Jeremiah Smith
lined up at receiver, that says something.

00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:27.600
No, no, I. Agree.

00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:31.050
That's something I will leave,
look out for the defensive line and also

00:33:32.066 --> 00:33:33.683
be ready for some close games.

00:33:33.683 --> 00:33:35.266
I mean, we have a tough schedule, tough
all week.

00:33:35.266 --> 00:33:37.250
That's where I was going next.

00:33:37.250 --> 00:33:41.266
What do we think about sort of
the outcome of the schedule, the 12 game?

00:33:41.566 --> 00:33:45.666
I mean, we're very lucky nowadays
to have the 12 team playoff, right.

00:33:45.683 --> 00:33:47.666
And we saw two years ago
we were battle tested.

00:33:47.666 --> 00:33:50.266
We lost a tough game. Right?
We lost a tough game.

00:33:50.266 --> 00:33:51.416
So let's go up north.

00:33:51.416 --> 00:33:53.100
And we were battle tested.

00:33:53.100 --> 00:33:54.750
Went to the playoffs, won it. All right.

00:33:54.750 --> 00:33:57.750
So I think even if we do drop a game
or two in that stretch

00:33:57.750 --> 00:34:00.916
between mid October and November,
Indiana or in one of those two,

00:34:01.916 --> 00:34:03.466
it will just make us better on us.

00:34:03.466 --> 00:34:05.566
Right. And it builds composure. Yeah.

00:34:05.566 --> 00:34:06.600
Definitely composure.

00:34:06.600 --> 00:34:07.366
Mental strength.

00:34:07.366 --> 00:34:09.866
Because no one likes to lose.

00:34:09.866 --> 00:34:11.300
But sometimes it's a good thing.

00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:12.900
Yeah. Shows your weaknesses.

00:34:12.900 --> 00:34:16.283
Show you shows you that the
the work that you need to put in

00:34:16.283 --> 00:34:19.566
and where you can improve
more than a blowout win does.

00:34:19.616 --> 00:34:19.850
Yeah.

00:34:19.850 --> 00:34:24.383
So I want to go back when we were talking
about the toughness of the schedule.

00:34:24.416 --> 00:34:24.683
Right.

00:34:24.683 --> 00:34:28.816
You remember we early on in our time
together like oh we play Indiana

00:34:28.850 --> 00:34:32.333
like them all the you know the team
we didn't mention was the team up north.

00:34:32.366 --> 00:34:35.366
We didn't even put them
as a part of the tough schedule.

00:34:35.516 --> 00:34:38.066
Yeah. Conversation.
That game is always tough.

00:34:38.066 --> 00:34:39.050
Always a tough game.

00:34:39.050 --> 00:34:42.050
It goes to that being said,
it's always a tough game.

00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:43.883
You don't really know what hey come here.

00:34:43.883 --> 00:34:45.316
It's going to be fun.

00:34:45.316 --> 00:34:46.933
It's going to be fun. Yeah.

00:34:46.933 --> 00:34:50.266
And they I mean they have a whole new
coaching staff going and everything.

00:34:50.266 --> 00:34:52.850
So it'll be interesting.
To see invested in their. Team.

00:34:52.850 --> 00:34:57.350
It'll be interesting to see how their new
coaching staff deals with the game right.

00:34:58.050 --> 00:35:01.650
Because it it took Coach day I mean
he looked like he settled in last year.

00:35:01.650 --> 00:35:03.900
But it took us day
a little bit to settle in for that game.

00:35:03.900 --> 00:35:06.383
I mean it's
unlike anything in the entire world.

00:35:06.383 --> 00:35:10.166
So it'll be interesting
to see if they rise to it fall

00:35:10.166 --> 00:35:11.850
or just kind of go out there and play.

00:35:11.850 --> 00:35:15.750
I know I mean, Sharone
Moore was in the system, right?

00:35:15.750 --> 00:35:17.250
Yeah. He's a coordinator for them.

00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:19.433
But now they have Kyle Whittingham.
Yeah from Utah.

00:35:19.433 --> 00:35:24.016
So we you're remembering his interview
when they ask him are you ready.

00:35:24.300 --> 00:35:26.483
Do you know about the game.
And he said I do now.

00:35:26.483 --> 00:35:27.383
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

00:35:27.383 --> 00:35:29.333
So I'm like oh no good that you're.

00:35:29.333 --> 00:35:30.533
Just now learning it.

00:35:30.533 --> 00:35:31.583
We will benefit.

00:35:31.583 --> 00:35:34.800
There might be a bit of a learning
curve there for him. Yes.

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:36.000
Especially coming down here.

00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.116
Especially coming down here.

00:35:38.116 --> 00:35:40.400
It's going to be so good. It's
gonna be. Awesome. Guys I'm in.

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:41.900
Thanksgiving break a little early.

00:35:41.900 --> 00:35:44.366
That's. Yeah, I love that I, I love that.

00:35:44.366 --> 00:35:46.800
All right. What's that?
We're not gambling, folks.

00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:47.566
There are no bets.

00:35:47.566 --> 00:35:51.433
There's
no money never tied to this conversation.

00:35:51.433 --> 00:35:54.433
And what do we predict? Well.

00:35:54.466 --> 00:35:56.416
I predict an 11 and one season.

00:35:56.416 --> 00:35:59.483
Oh, I think we'll either lose at Texas
or at Indiana.

00:35:59.600 --> 00:36:03.433
I like that, you know, Vegas
said our win total at nine and a half.

00:36:03.433 --> 00:36:05.000
That is. Unbelievable.

00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:05.900
Did they really.

00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:08.966
We haven't had under nine
win since I was five. Yeah

00:36:10.250 --> 00:36:11.633
that's fantastic.

00:36:11.633 --> 00:36:13.500
Which means it's just not possible right?

00:36:13.500 --> 00:36:13.966
I mean I.

00:36:13.966 --> 00:36:17.033
Think that was also a whole
nother situation with interim head coach,

00:36:17.033 --> 00:36:20.100
but that it is unbelievable
that that is one.

00:36:20.116 --> 00:36:20.566
Right.

00:36:20.566 --> 00:36:23.566
And so nine and a half
I would put our minimum at ten

00:36:23.850 --> 00:36:26.116
I think we drop Indiana game.

00:36:26.116 --> 00:36:28.883
I'm by far most worried for.

00:36:28.883 --> 00:36:30.716
And then either Texas that we're winning.

00:36:30.716 --> 00:36:33.716
But I really don't see us losing at home
to Oregon.

00:36:35.633 --> 00:36:38.333
The Texas game.

00:36:38.333 --> 00:36:39.500
They've invested a lot.

00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:42.666
They've invested a lot, a lot
they a lot of kidding.

00:36:42.683 --> 00:36:44.566
They're not messing. Around. No.

00:36:44.566 --> 00:36:46.283
They want to avenge them. Yeah.

00:36:46.283 --> 00:36:50.516
Because Sark I mean yeah, they put a lot
of pressure on them after last season.

00:36:50.516 --> 00:36:54.950
I mean, they spent so much money in the
in the portal last season.

00:36:54.950 --> 00:36:58.350
And on the recruit
and they went what nine and three.

00:36:58.350 --> 00:37:00.500
Yeah. That's not what you're looking for.

00:37:00.500 --> 00:37:03.466
Spending
upward of $45 - 50 million in a year.

00:37:03.466 --> 00:37:06.150
So there's a lot of pressure
on him to perform.

00:37:06.150 --> 00:37:08.000
Like I think he's
probably on the hot seat.

00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:08.400
Yeah.

00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.500
Spending that much money,
you can't go nine and three

00:37:10.500 --> 00:37:13.500
and keep your job, especially at Texas
a school that expects to win.

00:37:13.500 --> 00:37:15.916
Definitely kind of like us, right?

00:37:15.916 --> 00:37:19.250
I know the coaches are always it's crazy.

00:37:19.250 --> 00:37:20.816
That must be. Yeah, they wake up.

00:37:20.816 --> 00:37:23.816
I can't a hard job,
but they go through every day.

00:37:23.816 --> 00:37:26.816
I had an interview
a couple days ago talking about just

00:37:26.816 --> 00:37:28.516
you always have to adapt.

00:37:28.516 --> 00:37:31.516
Modern football is different every year.

00:37:31.883 --> 00:37:33.983
Every every, every month
it looks different.

00:37:33.983 --> 00:37:35.150
Yeah, the landscape of it.

00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:37.950
New rule changes
with transfer ads for portal.

00:37:37.950 --> 00:37:39.016
All of it.

00:37:39.016 --> 00:37:39.983
You just have to adapt.

00:37:39.983 --> 00:37:41.700
Yeah. There's no other way.

00:37:41.700 --> 00:37:44.000
Yeah that's what we're doing.

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.983
Yep. Feels like can be fun.

00:37:45.983 --> 00:37:48.383
It's going to be a good time. And man
oh it's going to be fun.

00:37:48.383 --> 00:37:48.900
It's going to be.

00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:51.016
Something what's. Going to be so good.

00:37:51.016 --> 00:37:52.516
Well we got the spring game.

00:37:52.516 --> 00:37:52.850
Yeah.

00:37:52.850 --> 00:37:57.050
And we'll know more then you have a better
sense of sort of where we're going

00:37:57.050 --> 00:37:58.583
and what we're doing.

00:37:58.583 --> 00:38:00.866
And then September rolls.

00:38:00.866 --> 00:38:02.250
Around from there.

00:38:02.250 --> 00:38:04.200
And we go. From there.

00:38:04.200 --> 00:38:06.383
But we're on the pedal quick.

00:38:06.383 --> 00:38:07.650
And I mean immediately.

00:38:07.650 --> 00:38:09.350
Oh. We're off and running.

00:38:09.350 --> 00:38:11.783
Off and running off. And running

00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:14.033
to Austin.

00:38:14.033 --> 00:38:17.033
A tough September through November.

00:38:17.033 --> 00:38:19.400
It's going to be fine.
Oh, it's going to be fun.

00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.116
It's going to be it's going to be awesome.

00:38:21.116 --> 00:38:23.566
Everybody always open.

00:38:23.566 --> 00:38:26.550
Always open. Always. And
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