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Few people speak plainer about where MarTech is actually headed than Amanda Cole, the CMO at Bloomreach, so it tracks that her return visit with Jay Schwedelson turned into a string of hot takes that cut against almost everything the industry keeps repeating.
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She makes the case for ditching tools you're already paying for, designing a loyalty program that actually rewards the right people, and rethinking what it even means to hire a marketer right now. Worth a listen if you've ever stared at your tech stack and wondered how much of it you could rip out tomorrow.
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Best Moments:
(02:08) The case for divesting from MarTech instead of piling on more of it
(03:48) Why most lightweight tools are just UI wrappers you can now talk to AI to replace
(05:30) Loyalty programs are broken when all they attract are discount hunters
(06:15) Excluding one-hit-wonder buyers from ad spend is saving brands millions a month
(07:36) Why Fred Reichheld walked away from NPS and started preaching earned growth
(08:30) Don't hire more marketers, train your AI agents and then hire weirder people
(11:55) Who Amanda actually reads and watches to stay ahead of every AI shift
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