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00:00:07.833Ladies and gentlemen, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Discombobulated.
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00:00:25.809You know him from the Miss Pat show, generation Kill, malcolm in the Middle and from my personal favorite horror film.
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00:00:29.486Watched it more than any other horror film Jeepers, creepers, 2.
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00:00:32.929Welcome, eric Nenninger, everybody.
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00:00:37.844Dude, thank you so much for being on the pod and for being.
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00:00:46.984I know I said this many times to you, but you and especially your wife have such a good aura around you that I get very lucky meeting people that I've looked up to.
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00:00:50.439But like you were literally so nice when I ran into you it was crazy.
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00:00:52.104I've told multiple people that story.
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00:00:54.490I was like are you who?
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00:00:55.685I think you are and you go.
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00:00:57.436that's exactly what he said.
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00:01:01.365Sorry, I don't know names malcolm in the middle, you're like, yeah, I go chills.
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00:01:03.067Yeah, dude, that was a good night.
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00:01:07.212It was a great night, but dude, that was cool for you to be able to be like at a show that I did.
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00:01:07.953Like that to me.
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00:01:14.543Like to be able to like tell bobby growing up that you'll be like dude that, like eric nettinger is going to be at your show because I'm I dude.
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00:01:22.084I have seen jeepers creepers more than any other horror film by far, that's for sure, and I love when I asked you I go what's your favorite thing you've ever done?
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00:01:28.093Really, you go not at all I was like very very cool and honest.
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00:01:28.855I love that.
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00:01:31.424That's great what they want, yeah, you got to give the people what they want.
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00:01:32.206But yeah, that's awesome.
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00:01:39.364Where did I kind of want to, like I don't know much about you and I was going to look stuff up, but I was like I kind of want to just organically, literally get to know you.
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00:01:42.948And we were kind of chatting outside, which was was nice, like to get to chat.
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00:01:50.147We always say this, but we're like man, we burned a lot of stuff outside all the good stuff, all the good stuff outside, but for real, like you were talking and you started.
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00:01:51.390you went to like a theater school.
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00:01:52.983Was that like in high school or was that in?
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00:01:55.930I was born and raised in St Louis.
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00:02:00.793And so where'd you?
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00:02:06.275I grew up in olivet, which is always the caveat for when you go to ladue, because you want people to not know.
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00:02:07.856You want people to know that you didn't grow up in ladue.
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00:02:09.518Yeah, you're like, just so you know it wasn't.
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00:02:13.706I'm not rich, yeah I'm not ladue dude, they're ladue dude.
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00:02:15.831We don't fuck with no one, even everyone in st louis.
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00:02:19.526If you say ladue, they just look away from you, yeah, they're like great, yeah, yeah for sure.
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00:02:20.668Okay, all right, and then.
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00:02:20.967So where'd?
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00:02:21.568you go to college.
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00:02:26.100I went to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, which sounds more prestigious than it is Um.
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00:02:32.510I think it's the right amount of prestigious right, it's pretty good I mean not, you know not to brag, but it's the oldest acting school in the United States.
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00:02:38.010The bastard stepchild is the one in Hollywood, which is the one that I went to.
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00:02:49.146They opened that in the sevent, found out that they're actually closing that campus.
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00:02:53.901I know rip aada west but I, I graduated from ladue and moved out to california, yes, and went to the american academy, which is a acting school, a drama school.
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00:02:54.925It's a conservatory.
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00:02:57.129We studied voice and shakespeare.
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00:02:59.025We had no math, no science, nothing.
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00:03:05.945Yeah kind of you know you literally didn't have to do math at that school like it was all about just it acting, it was all acting.
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00:03:08.090Voice, movement, styles, all that stuff like.
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00:03:10.594Oh, dude, my parents would have if I would've gotten into that school.
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00:03:13.205My parents would have kicked my ass, that's awesome.
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00:03:14.768My mom black my roommate up.
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00:03:29.080She was like he's coming back soon, dude that's like it's.
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00:03:30.066It is like a whole thing to learn like people.
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00:03:31.894I do have friends that like do stand up that are like yeah, I could probably do that.
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00:03:34.466I'm like it's so much harder than you think, even when I've done like small commercials.
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00:03:41.808You're on set and you're like red leather, yellow leather, like you don't talk you don't need to warm your voice up, you know you have no lines.
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00:03:42.890Yeah, oh my god.
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00:03:50.366It was sort of like a trade school, like if you went and you only studied to be an electrician like I only studied to be an actor, which I probably would have had an easier time being an electrician.
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00:03:54.368But um, I tell my friends that I went to clown school yeah, for sure.
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00:03:56.437And then, how how much fun was college?
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00:04:04.734I I mean, I loved it because all of a sudden I got to act every day, all day, and that's all I was responsible for, and then I was around my people and were you guys just like?
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00:04:05.675was that like part of it?
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00:04:06.897Just like watching films?
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00:04:07.719just like fucking.
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00:04:15.527It was mainly theater stuff, so it was like doing that okay, it was like really dramatic or like yeah, very dramatic, very serious, but also playful.
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00:04:26.334Literally, the school's campus was at an old elementary school, and so we were pretending like we were in, you know, third grade again and everybody was there to act and they were teaching you the real stuff that you loved so much.
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00:04:29.803As a kid like I would watch movies and be like I want to do that, yeah that's amazing.
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00:04:31.990I had such reverence for all these guys that I grew up watching.
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00:04:40.608So when all of a sudden, a teacher was explaining this is how you do it, and you were studying stuff that was a thousand years old and and you were doing what you felt like was real acting.
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00:04:46.041And then I met um friends that I still have till this day, and I met my wife, you guys met at school.
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00:04:46.805We met in college.
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00:04:51.564Yeah, oh, where you guys would pretend being in love and then all of a sudden, like real felon yeah, she was pretending.
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00:04:54.793I was like hey wait, that was real, yeah was that?
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00:05:00.112were you like how it always sucks, no matter how much progressive we get or anything?
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00:05:16.031I think it's always weird being a guy, because I I think, no matter how much you want equality, like whatever you got, no matter how progressive we get, guys still have to make the first move and then, when you don't, you have to be like I think I actually think I'm right a little bit Like there's girls that you've known and you're like hey, I like you.
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00:05:25.785And they're like why don't you say something You're like I have many times it's almost like I could guess this it's almost like I could guess this and they'll be like I'm a witch and you're like I guess this.
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00:05:26.225Right, I'm the warlock.
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00:05:27.389I knew it, I knew we remember each other so what?
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00:05:28.980when did you like first like see her?
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00:05:31.935so I worked.
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00:05:33.161Uh, I had a work study program.
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00:05:48.521Our school was divided into two sessions, the morning session and the afternoon session, and so the morning session was kind of all the serious people that could wake up and get their ass to school by 9 a, and the afternoon session would roll in around like one or two you know hung over from the night before, and then they would go do their pretend you know learning.
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00:05:53.261But I had a work study program so I worked in the costume department in the morning session.
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00:05:55.526Okay, that paid me a little bit off my tuition.
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00:06:04.824So I saw my now wife in the hallways and I was like you know, yeah, she wanted nothing to do with me Really, because I was one of the slackers from the afternoon session.
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00:06:07.466She's like those guys are not serious.
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00:06:13.689Yeah, you're not serious, but you're like I'm already at the school, I at least deserve to sleep in, because isn't that what, like Belushi did?
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00:06:17.672Like there's all these great people you heard, like slacking is a part of the arts.
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00:06:25.557And people who are great will always be great, and I'm sure that your wife was always great, but some of us need to be slackers to become great.
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00:06:26.480Yes, I needed.
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00:06:30.286I needed my time in the morning, Um, and then it was a.
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00:06:32.858There was a two year program and you had to be invited back for the second year.
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00:06:35.259Okay, so you sort of auditioned in your finals.
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00:06:45.536And then when I got invited back for the second session, then then I was you know, and then you can't cause there's no going back.
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00:06:47.098I thought you could just pick dirt.
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00:06:51.901Yeah, no, you were assigned so yeah, you had to decide like early on.
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00:06:57.692Oh my God.
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00:07:01.629And then and then, I was in an acting class with one of her very good friends.
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00:07:02.531He vouched for me.
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00:07:06.153I class with one of her very good friends, he vouched for me, I got a date with her, and you know, the rest is history, that's great.
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00:07:15.004So the date with the first date, once that was solidified, like once you had, yeah, it's all you need is just to be like, hey, get me around all these, get me away from these other idiots yeah, and then we can figure it out.
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00:07:20.146Yeah, all the stoners you're like, and I'm a stoner but dude, that's why I'm a stoner with an alarm.
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00:07:23.132That's a good special name.
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00:07:29.091Stoner with an alarm is not bad, and it might be my next special yeah, that's great dude.
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00:07:34.288Before we continue, you have really good mic technique, like I noticed that you're able like, and I don't quite know what to do with this.
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00:07:35.541Do you feel like that a little bit?
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00:07:41.564I just that's so funny that I was wondering, because I'm like put it here I, I that is one thing that when I was going to do this, I got the.
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00:07:44.048I had the more expensive ones in my cart, right.
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00:07:51.103And then once we rang out long story short, like I don't have great credit I don't know what the number is, but it's like I'm it's, I'm older than my.
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00:08:00.750Like my credit score is younger than me, like it's not good and they gave me the thing and they're like it the cheaper ones.
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00:08:09.216But I like this because instead of even though it's better when you can just have it out here from a comic, this feels better, but I never thought about like an actor and what I feel so uncomfortable.
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00:08:12.762I have nothing in my hands, like in a scene when I have to, just when I have to do an audition.
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00:08:22.413I always, whenever I do like you know, when you have to like, do like left and right, you have to like do your profile I always pretend, put my hand in my pocket and while it's there, I'm like I'm all my energy is in my hand.
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00:08:27.425I'm like oh, just relax you got nothing to do but be in your hand, so for me this is comfortable.
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00:08:35.465But you're doing great, I was actually gonna say it, but I didn't want you to start feeling uncomfortable I'm just mimicking you, whatever you do, that's actually how you get good at a lot of things early on.
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00:08:37.900Yeah, did you who was like an actor?
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00:08:46.095Tom hanks, yeah, always yeah that's comedy, and drama.
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00:08:46.902I love him so much.
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00:08:52.687I can see that because you're very I love you are very facial.
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00:08:56.283I've been watching you in generation kill and dude.
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00:09:02.004When I went to the fire academy they always called this fucking guy captain america and I was like, really, why did they call him that?
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00:09:03.908And I didn't know captain america really was either.
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00:09:04.850I knew he's like in the comic books.
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00:09:09.727But now, watching this show, I was like that's what they were calling him because we would be like we have to run three miles today.
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00:09:10.640He's like hell yeah, and I go.
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00:09:13.191That's fucking crazy and I swear to god.
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00:09:14.014He told me he goes.
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00:09:17.221Bobby, what are you gonna do if you're in a fire and I go and I have to run three miles?
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00:09:20.066that's a dragon that's a big, that's a fucking.
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00:09:24.490Where am I running three miles from but yeah he was so intense and they started calling him captain america.
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00:09:31.871But you do such a good job in that show of like and do what jeepers creeper, but just like, you can sell it on your face a lot and that's always acting.
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00:09:32.495I liked like.
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00:09:34.986Some people are very like I don't know.
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00:09:42.567They just say something and you're like jesus, oh well, you don't mean like a tony soprano, like that shit, like you see, that guy just say a word and you're like whoa, yeah, I love what.
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00:09:44.370I've always liked, like tom hanks, like my guys.
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00:09:45.211I like jim carrey.
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00:09:49.903I've always like now that I've met you, that's the only actor I need to meet now is jim carrey dude.
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00:09:50.625Honestly, this is crazy.
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00:10:01.628I definitely grew up, you know, I was a kid of the 90s, I graduated in 97, so obviously jim carrey was like the biggest thing and everybody wanted to be him and mimic him, which nobody else can really do because I think like somehow he's able to be a cartoon.
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00:10:03.370But still, yeah, I'm as a real person.
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00:10:05.633I always thought one day I was like I might like be him.
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00:10:07.841And then even you're like I'll probably be better because I'm the next generation.
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00:10:13.510You're like no one can be like, there's just certain guys that no one can be, you kind of find your own lane a little bit.
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00:10:14.033And then when did?
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00:10:21.107When did you start to feel comfortable acting Like?
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00:10:23.211was it after you got like still a little bit of nervous?
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00:10:25.955Somebody said to me if you're not nervous, you don't know what you're about to do.
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00:10:29.801Like you know what you're risking and stuff which I always kind of remember that it's okay to be nervous.
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00:10:30.423Um.
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00:10:38.008I think I started feeling comfortable in school because I was learning that what I was doing was something I could actually do, like it wasn't mysterious, like I knew that I could actually.
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00:10:41.452This was howack for it, so that was great.
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00:10:48.331And then I got out into the real world and started working on jobs, and the stuff that I had learned was working there too.
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00:11:00.607So I was like, oh, I think I had a lot of confidence and a lot of I was comfortable in the beginning, and then I had to, like, turn it into a career and I was like, oh, I really need to learn like how to continually do this again and again, and again.
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00:11:02.048Yeah, and is that is the harder part?
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00:11:03.912Like cause, it is the same with standup, but is it?
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00:11:08.543I'm not trying to get ahead of you, but is the harder part, Like once you do that, like the business side of it?
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00:11:08.926Yeah?
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00:11:22.211There's a little bit of what it means you know to be an actor and what it means to like be a professional actor you know, have a career over a long period of time, so I've been very fortunate to have worked for along the way.
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00:11:23.572There's been a lot of huge successes.
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00:11:29.461There's been a lot of like embarrassing failures that you know happened when no one saw it, fortunately, and so there was.
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00:11:32.187There's a difference in each aspect of it, I think.
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00:11:35.323There's being an actor and then there's having a career as an actor.
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00:11:35.825Yeah.
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00:11:38.350The business can be long and weird.
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00:11:45.114Yeah, you know and you're sort of on your own a little bit, like I think we were talking earlier that it's not necessarily a linear career.
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00:11:49.248No, when a doctor goes to medical school, they become a resident, they become there's a track and a path.
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00:11:51.017Yeah, if you do this, you will become a lawyer.
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00:12:01.669As an actor, it's like you know, you might just blow up all of a sudden you might ruin that opportunity and you might start at like fifth grade and then you have to go back to first grade, yeah, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I'm in college, and then you go like that.
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00:12:06.116It's like at that level like it changes all the time, even with stand that's exactly how it is for actors.
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00:12:06.697That's cool.
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00:12:17.041That's cool to know that it's similar with all systems of art probably, I would think so if you're trying to make a career out of art, there's gonna be like some mistakes along the way you're gonna, you know, five steps forward, five steps back.
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00:12:28.626Yeah, because it's also this guest too, where if you're like I've worked so hard to be like if we're, if, if directors and bookers and stuff are looking at color, sometimes like blue is the most you're closer to blue and that's what's popular right now.
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00:12:34.041But if you just stay true to your color, there'll always be a time where people are like no one's orange like that you know what I mean.
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00:12:35.043Like does that kind of make sense?
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00:12:36.168And it's like, but you can't, you can't.
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00:12:42.206You can try to be other colors, but it's like just being who you are true to yourself always kind of comes through.
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00:12:43.327But there is in that.
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00:12:46.332There are times where I've definitely went on stage and been like I'll even use blue.
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00:12:54.426I'm like I'm such a different person, I'm very dark or whatever, and afterwards I'm like that didn't work but it's like and you try it and then later you find like who you are.
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00:12:55.311So it's like you have to do that.
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00:13:01.168But the business part, to know that even like in an acting world, that that's harder, is like it's weird because we don't have.
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00:13:01.850We have less control.
00:13:01.850 -->
00:13:08.047I think, like you guys can find your own voice and then you just have to get it out there I have to lend myself to something that's already been written to a bunch of.
00:13:08.086 -->
00:13:13.995It's such a collaborative art in that sense and a collaborative business that I can be, like you said, the greatest blue in the world.
00:13:13.995 -->
00:13:18.364But they're higher in orange right now, yes, and then I can feel like shit because I was like, oh, I'm a terrible blue.
00:13:18.364 -->
00:13:22.970Yes, but really you have to reconcile in yourself that they just did not want to hire you.
00:13:22.970 -->
00:13:26.953But I just lean on people with a lot of experience and I listen to anything that anybody says.
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00:13:27.554Me too.
00:13:27.554 -->
00:13:28.676Yeah, listening to advice.
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00:13:30.004Do you ever watch young actors?
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00:13:30.745Comments will do this too.
00:13:30.745 -->
00:13:35.357They'll want and want and I'll watch them getting advice and they're like no, I'm doing this, why isn't it working?
00:13:35.357 -->
00:13:38.865And I'm like you have to literally sometimes sit and be like what's going on.
00:13:38.865 -->
00:13:39.725Yeah, I went to.
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00:13:45.193I found a studio in Hollywood, um, and I studied there and I taught there, uh, for about 10 years.
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00:13:51.427And so that helped out a lot, because when I could sit on the other side and watch somebody go through something that I was going through and have to explain it to them.
00:13:51.427 -->
00:13:53.163That meant that I had to learn it really really well.
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00:14:04.552So I had to learn how to manage actors psyche and ego and emotions in the business outside of when they were actually acting which made me look at my own self and and learn little tips and learn, like, quick ways to explain it.
00:14:04.611 -->
00:14:31.702Like you could be going to a grocery store, uh, shopping for dinner tonight, and you're going to make pasta and you're going to make spaghetti, and you might pass by some incredible piece of salmon and you're like that salmon is so amazing, but I'm here to make spaghetti, yeah, and so that salmon feels like shit cause you didn't pick him but you're like we're not making salmon right now, so that that, reconciling that and what happens is that you then take those hits into the next audition that you have or the next job that you have, and you have to learn how to manage.
00:14:31.630 -->
00:14:40.244you know all of the emotions that come with being rejected no, totally, and that's such a right way to put it is that they almost cry uh no, but that's such a good way to put it and then stand up.
00:14:40.325 -->
00:14:52.568One time there was a comic, jeremy essek, who really helped me when I first started and I was telling him something because, like I'm not very competitive and I also like don't look at other people and like envy them, but I wanted more stuff and I wasn't getting it.
00:14:52.568 -->
00:14:57.652And I remember Jeremy was like when someone gets something, it's in stand up.
00:14:57.652 -->
00:15:07.057This is just how they're like it doesn't mean you didn't get something, that's great, it's just meant it's like good for them.
00:15:07.057 -->
00:15:18.546Yeah, and like I was telling you earlier, my buddy just got like this weekend or whatever, and he's doing a show and I'm like once you can be like happy for people and realize that like you're just not what's happening right now, then you can kind of it's actually better, because then you get to feel good, because then that salmon gets to be like you weren't ready for me anyway.
00:15:18.806 -->
00:15:25.095You get to be like another time, baby, like and that's what's nice for us it's such an immediate thing because you just didn't get that one project.
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00:15:32.511Yes, and like I turn it over so many times, like I'm fortunate enough to audition a bunch, so I can it's not like I brought my whole self, like you do with stand-up yeah, it didn't work.
00:15:32.511 -->
00:15:37.142I just auditioned for that one project and they hired somebody else and you're right like it wasn't that I didn't get it.
00:15:37.182 -->
00:15:43.893I love that they that's even interesting didn't take a shot on me, they just it wasn't my role to get it wouldn't have mattered if that guy wasn't there.
00:15:43.972 -->
00:15:50.465Yeah, they still wouldn't have hired me because they weren't looking for me anyway, same way jfl, new faces and stuff like you'll do that and everyone's like, oh, I didn't get picked.
00:15:50.465 -->
00:15:50.866And it's like.
00:15:50.866 -->
00:15:57.403There's been friends where I'm like I, you want it, but once you don't like some people literally hold it on them and I'm like we all agree you're fun.
00:15:57.403 -->
00:16:03.028And that's what's cool too is you have peers that will be like no, you're actually good, it's just not your time right now and acting's even.
00:16:03.028 -->
00:16:14.010It is even weirder too because, like you said, like we do have the freedom to like kind of do what we want and you're kind of at the mercy of like I hope I fit this role and then like I've prepared.
00:16:14.091 -->
00:16:16.243That's the hardest thing and I've never had to do it at your level.
00:16:16.243 -->
00:16:23.354But when you do, I did one the other day where they were like it's a stoner guy right in a rock and roll band and I'm like don't, let's fucking go.
00:16:23.354 -->
00:16:25.520And then I have to like I never care.
00:16:25.520 -->
00:16:31.048Sometimes you're just like you turn it in and then a couple weeks later I'm like there was another guy who looked better than me.
00:16:31.107 -->
00:16:33.038I'm like I've been growing my hair out for years.
00:16:33.038 -->
00:16:33.461There's no way.
00:16:33.461 -->
00:16:37.210During covid he decided he was gonna do this too and so like that happens.
00:16:37.291 -->
00:16:41.065But also it's like you just kind of go back to like you can always sit and like work on what you do.
00:16:41.065 -->
00:16:54.780But that's cool that I do want to talk about the teaching aspect, because I there are classes and I don't I've I've tried to, I've done like less like where you sit down with someone but like for me I can only watch someone and then I'll be like hey, like it's kind of like a jewel.
00:16:54.780 -->
00:16:58.581I'll be like if you like this, you can have it, if not, you can throw it in the trash because I don't need it.
00:16:58.581 -->
00:17:04.335But I saw this and I think you could use this and I've done it long enough where a guy messaged me from Milwaukee.
00:17:04.335 -->
00:17:10.932He goes every time it kills and I was like, every time that little thing you told me like kills and that's how I like to help stand up.
00:17:10.932 -->
00:17:13.807Weird, like that, cause some people it's not like acting.
00:17:13.807 -->
00:17:17.046You can't say something definitive like something or whatever.
00:17:17.046 -->
00:17:17.909But how is that?
00:17:17.909 -->
00:17:19.767How acting is like teaching it.
00:17:28.279 -->
00:17:29.882Are there definitive things or do you dissect like you have to dissect individually as well?
00:17:29.882 -->
00:17:31.376You definitely want to tailor to like the person because whatever they're going through, they're the only one going through it.
00:17:31.376 -->
00:17:36.278But there are definitive things that you need everybody to learn, because you're trying to adapt to an established script that's already been written.
00:17:36.278 -->
00:17:38.622Yeah, so I always make the comparison to music.
00:17:38.622 -->
00:17:45.987So if I'm going for an audition, that means that there is a band that is asking me to get up and play with them I should know what kind of music they play.
00:17:46.268 -->
00:17:58.622I should know how to play that music I can't be like oh, I don't do punk rock and then try to stand up with you who already have a band and have written a song and have a gig, and I'm going to be like yeah, I'm going to do classical instead, and they're like what are you talking about?
00:17:58.662 -->
00:18:03.071So I think there are definitive things that actors need to learn how to do you know technique.
00:18:03.071 -->
00:18:04.013It would be like stuff that you have to do.
00:18:04.013 -->
00:18:14.818And then there's organic things that actors need to find in themselves, which kind of be like the voice that you're looking for, maybe in stand up comedy and yeah so you teach the actors the technique and then you help them with the actor psychology.
00:18:14.858 -->
00:18:18.244To kind of like find freedom would be the best way to describe it.
00:18:18.345 -->
00:18:22.070Yeah, so that they can play punk rock music freely, yes.
00:18:22.070 -->
00:18:32.171And then they have to pick up their guitar or whatever instrument they have and they have to go do a ska band or a jazz band or a classic rock band or a country band, because we're always sort of hired guns, especially in the television world, yeah.
00:18:32.171 -->
00:18:37.820But I think one of the things that's definitive is like respect the music that you're trying to play with this group.
00:18:37.820 -->
00:18:43.451So if I'm going to audition for something like Abbott Elementary, I better know what Abbott Elementary is.
00:18:43.451 -->
00:18:44.933I better know how to do that.
00:18:44.933 -->
00:18:46.982I better have respect for Quinta Brunson.
00:18:46.982 -->
00:18:56.561I better be able to stand up and like kind of honor what she is already established in the show, not walk in there and be like I'm going to do it my way and only my way.
00:18:56.561 -->
00:19:06.950Then, in that little parameters, you want to do it your way and be free and have fun and make yourself laugh, and you know, same thing goes for a drama or whatever other tone you're doing.
00:19:07.029 -->
00:19:14.542So a lot of the teaching was getting people to understand that there was a technique, a musicality to what they were doing, and then getting them out of their own way?
00:19:14.623 -->
00:19:15.243Yeah, cause that is.
00:19:15.243 -->
00:19:19.621There is a thing of like being confident but not being too much of an asshole.
00:19:19.641 -->
00:19:23.330It's like someone tells you something like how do I bend in this scene and go what you said?
00:19:23.330 -->
00:19:44.851But also to know that like I get what you're saying but you're going to that's going to make the whole tower fall down If I move this piece and like, yeah, absolutely, and I don't know, and I've never done acting as much, but this kind of goes into standup a little bit on, like I've had, I've had a complaint or whatever.
00:19:44.851 -->
00:19:51.786But when she said it I was just like okay, thank you, and I was like I'm totally going to keep doing that bit because she doesn't do stand up Right, but I respect what she meant by that.
00:19:51.786 -->
00:20:07.679But if she would have been like, hey, you have to a drastic change, or will you be like no, I'm just going to stick by my decision, or does that?
00:20:08.380 -->
00:20:08.519please.
00:20:08.519 -->
00:20:15.721Usually what happens is when somebody gives you a note and tells you to do a different way, I'll do it a different way because I feel like they know better than I do, because it wasn't something that I wrote.
00:20:15.721 -->
00:20:20.468There's been times when, like I, viscerally have a reaction to it and that can get in your way.
00:20:20.468 -->
00:20:29.730You can be blinder a little bit, so I'll throw stuff out completely, or I may want to discuss it a little bit but, I'm still playing somebody else's script.
00:20:29.809 -->
00:20:31.260I'm still and they kind of know better.
00:20:31.260 -->
00:20:37.962So if it's the writer and he says that guy's not that angry, I might, you know, talk with him about why.
00:20:37.962 -->
00:20:44.747But really the job as an actor is to justify it inside yourself and find your own reason for not being that angry.
00:20:44.747 -->
00:20:51.123Because, again, if you want to do exactly what you want to do, write your own thing you know, write your own thing, make your own movie.
00:20:51.123 -->
00:20:52.587You'd be the one that you'd be the showrunner.
00:20:52.587 -->
00:20:53.411You'd be the director.
00:20:53.559 -->
00:21:00.442And and but in terms of a note now, it kind of varies whether it's TV or movies or commercials or theater you know, like.
00:21:00.442 -->
00:21:02.326I feel like theater when you're doing that.
00:21:02.326 -->
00:21:05.992The actor has a little bit more control, but still, the script is the guy that told us what to do.
00:21:06.113 -->
00:21:06.554Yeah, isn't there.
00:21:06.554 -->
00:21:10.171I didn't even know that there's like laws that, like you, can't say a different word.
00:21:10.171 -->
00:21:12.627Yeah, and I was like that's even crazier.
00:21:12.627 -->
00:21:15.803I would even if someone was like you're perfect for this role, I go.
00:21:16.042 -->
00:21:22.429I can't remember every line of my own act of anything at all, like I literally said.
00:21:22.450 -->
00:21:23.611I was like don't cuss in the intro.
00:21:23.611 -->
00:21:29.676And as soon as I did I was like there's two guys in there fucking trying to drive this thing it's crazy but you do a good job of.
00:21:29.676 -->
00:21:32.011Also, even though we've known each other for a little limited time.
00:21:32.011 -->
00:21:37.660You handle my adhd very well, which I appreciate like you can handle like how I go into stuff and understand what I'm saying.
00:21:37.660 -->
00:21:46.295Yeah, which is very nice, but I think maybe it's because you've you've probably been around people like me a lot like very energetic comics like very needy actors.
00:21:47.461 -->
00:21:48.763I did teach for a long time.
00:21:48.824 -->
00:21:49.987That's crazy dude.
00:21:50.067 -->
00:21:50.647I want to.
00:21:50.647 -->
00:21:53.766I don't know if this was my in my agents Great, and I don't know whose mistake this was.
00:21:53.766 -->
00:22:11.903But when you said like about rehearsing roles so I was very early on, I wouldn't have, I didn't go to school, but I was like it says he's 13.
00:22:11.903 -->
00:22:18.767So I kept reading this role and kept trying to be like and I'm like, looking in the mirror, I'm 22, yeah, I'm full.
00:22:18.767 -->
00:22:20.349This is every part of this is true.
00:22:20.349 -->
00:22:23.845And so I was like I kept reading it and I was like I feel like I could play this other person.
00:22:23.984 -->
00:22:33.105But I think I even messaged my agent I won't put it on her, but I remember I was like I feel like I would be more like the dad, but I'm also young, so maybe I'm like no one sees me as an adult.
00:22:33.105 -->
00:22:37.682So I go into this audition and I'm also in the I'm not remembering my lines.
00:22:37.682 -->
00:22:39.105I was like I'll remember him right in my own.
00:22:39.105 -->
00:22:39.958I was not great.
00:22:39.958 -->
00:22:49.476I was early on in St Louis being like a state actor and I'm sitting there, I'm reading my lines and then a family walks in with a 13 year old boy and here's how I this is what I wore.
00:22:49.476 -->
00:22:50.517I had a green hoodie.
00:22:50.896 -->
00:22:51.156That was.
00:22:51.156 -->
00:22:54.300That was what I this is 13.
00:22:54.661 -->
00:22:59.165So I'm literally sitting there, dude, and I'm so, so uncomfortable, and they walk in, they go who are you reading for?
00:22:59.165 -->
00:23:02.749And I go timothy, and they go, so is he.
00:23:02.749 -->
00:23:05.211And I go in there and they go all right, slate, say your name.
00:23:05.211 -->
00:23:08.324I'm like bobby jaycox, timothy, and I'll never forget both of the direct.
00:23:08.324 -->
00:23:11.681The guys just go are you sure?
00:23:11.721 -->
00:23:12.102and I go?
00:23:12.461 -->
00:23:14.226yes, and I did it.
00:23:14.226 -->
00:23:17.298And they go do you want to go try again.
00:23:17.298 -->
00:23:17.839And I went out there.
00:23:17.839 -->
00:23:19.804I ran the lines and I came out there.
00:23:19.804 -->
00:23:20.044They go.
00:23:20.044 -->
00:23:20.826Are we supposed to go next?
00:23:20.826 -->
00:23:21.006I go.
00:23:21.006 -->
00:23:21.928No, I think I have to go back in.
00:23:21.928 -->
00:23:22.167They go.
00:23:22.167 -->
00:23:22.749What's happening?
00:23:22.749 -->
00:23:24.920I don't know, but did I got so hot?
00:23:24.920 -->
00:23:27.075I remember I felt like I was going to cry and I just go back in there and I go.
00:23:27.075 -->
00:23:29.196I think we should just be done and they were like, I guess so.
00:23:29.257 -->
00:23:37.305And I walked home and I was like I really should do more research, but that was, that's what you wake up at 9 am.
00:23:37.365 -->
00:23:41.048Yes, that's whenever I'm gonna go to the next realm for sure, but that's crazy.
00:23:41.088 -->
00:23:42.529I think it's awesome, yeah, that you've taught.
00:23:42.529 -->
00:23:51.537And I one thing I do want to ask with stand-up, I get to choose what guy I am the first time you get roles, because, dude, and I can't.
00:23:51.537 -->
00:23:54.923You're so awesome, you're so nice, you're so sweet.
00:23:54.923 -->
00:24:17.608How is it playing roles of these guys that, like, when you're a kid, like you like said you'd watch these villains and you're like fuck them, but they're great actors, right, but when you're a kid, you literally, if you saw you, you'd be like I don't like you, you know what I mean, like you're trying to lock everyone out of the bus and Japers, yeah, we can go, we can go bro, and so.
00:24:17.628 -->
00:24:24.313But that whole like thing is that freeing or does it suck when you have to play someone who's not nice and cool like you?
00:24:24.313 -->
00:24:27.824Like early on, do you want to play yourself, or is it freeing playing someone you're not?
00:24:27.864 -->
00:24:29.207I think it's freeing, that's cool.
00:24:29.207 -->
00:24:30.423You get to be a fucking asshole.
00:24:30.423 -->
00:24:32.662Yeah, and you don't have to worry about any repercussions.
00:24:32.662 -->
00:24:34.538That's so cool.
00:24:34.598 -->
00:24:36.241And you get to mean this with love you do.
00:24:36.241 -->
00:24:37.064I didn't even know how to say this.
00:24:37.064 -->
00:24:39.931I was like you did such a great job of being like, like even generation kill.
00:24:39.931 -->
00:24:43.681When I was like looking for you which every guy looks like you when I was watching I was like when's he gonna come up?
00:24:43.760 -->
00:24:45.696my mom thought I was someone else for a long time.
00:24:45.696 -->
00:24:55.583She thought I was alexander skarsgard for a long time, is that the guy who's the captain of?
00:24:55.603 -->
00:24:56.845like the guy driving, yeah, the ice man.
00:24:56.845 -->
00:24:57.546Like the lead guy?
00:24:57.546 -->
00:24:58.105Yep, who's high?
00:24:58.105 -->
00:25:00.568I'm bad at like because I was watching it on my phone in my car.
00:25:00.568 -->
00:25:02.991I was on the road when I started watching it and I was like.
00:25:02.991 -->
00:25:05.797I was like I kept pausing it.
00:25:05.797 -->
00:25:09.011I was like, man, he looks different, but all right, we all look alike.
00:25:09.011 -->
00:25:13.046And then what, yeah, we all do, we all do dude.
00:25:13.046 -->
00:25:17.421I was like before the long hair, let's say yes, oh my god, I would have loved to gotten declined roles.
00:25:17.421 -->
00:25:20.394You, you got seriously but yeah.
00:25:20.515 -->
00:25:30.200So whenever I watched that, like, yeah, like, dude, when you're burying your fucking AK 47s and crying I was like yeah, yeah, you literally had to cry.
00:25:30.220 -->
00:25:38.546Well, I literally had to cry and bury a case, but the real guy did get a bunch, get ahold of a bunch of AKs and then buried them so because all of a sudden, he didn't want to have them on them.
00:25:38.826 -->
00:25:43.10890 of that stuff is true I had and I saw at the end I'll watch it.
00:25:43.108 -->
00:25:45.951And I was like, oh, written by the same guy who wrote the books, but I didn't even know the.
00:25:45.951 -->
00:25:49.257So it's like a pretty true shit, very true, it's opened my eyes.
00:25:49.257 -->
00:25:53.596I never I didn't grow up with like learning about the war and I read like I was just young, yeah.
00:25:53.596 -->
00:26:00.125So now when I'm learning new stuff, like people are like yeah, dude, there was guys also over there doing stuff that they're like this doesn't feel right to us.
00:26:00.125 -->
00:26:01.926It's an incredible story.
00:26:01.926 -->
00:26:03.368When I watch it it stresses me out.
00:26:03.368 -->
00:26:09.326So then I have to switch to miss path to like watch it and be like okay, let's watch about race, yeah.
00:26:09.326 -->
00:26:12.461And then I'm like okay, at least there's a laugh track yeah, whatever, but no, when to laugh.
00:26:12.642 -->
00:26:13.765Yeah, yeah, it was a.
00:26:13.765 -->
00:26:18.463It was an embedded reporter that went alongside with the recon marines as they blasted their way.
00:26:18.463 -->
00:26:20.648The guy from wayne's world who the guy.
00:26:20.734 -->
00:26:22.299The guy that wasn't the reporter guy, that's.
00:26:22.299 -->
00:26:23.703Who was the guy who's in the show.
00:26:23.703 -->
00:26:25.679Was that who he's playing?
00:26:25.679 -->
00:26:27.082Yes, that reporter guy is the actor's name.
00:26:27.082 -->
00:26:29.457Yes, yes, when I saw that I do that's how I watch movies.
00:26:29.457 -->
00:26:32.028I'm like whatever you're the guy, he's an awesome guy.
00:26:32.048 -->
00:26:32.551He's an awesome guy.
00:26:32.551 -->
00:26:38.104He was playing evan wright yeah evan wright wrote uh like an expose for rolling stone yes, yes, turned it into a book.
00:26:38.263 -->
00:26:38.443Yes.
00:26:38.505 -->
00:26:42.854He was sitting where that reporter was, you know, rear passenger side of a Humvee.
00:26:42.854 -->
00:26:51.174They drove all the way into Baghdad and he just recorded everything that happened, met all the guys, became like brothers with them and then, uh, turned it into the mini series.
00:26:51.174 -->
00:26:54.143So every single person in that show is a real guy.
00:26:54.384 -->
00:26:58.008Whoa, um, the only thing that they, you guys, stop giving me chills, bro.
00:26:58.008 -->
00:26:58.489No, it was crazy.
00:26:58.489 -->
00:26:59.388This is crazy.
00:26:59.409 -->
00:27:05.732It was crazy the only thing that they like manipulated was they sort of like compressed maybe two firefights into one.
00:27:05.952 -->
00:27:36.238Sure, but for the most part it's all real, and three of the guys and that's my least favorite stuff about like honestly war stuff, like I like, like movie, like 1917, when it's about people Like movie so good, when like movies so good when he's walking to that fucking tree at the end and he's so fucking tired we've all as a, as a guy and any person, you've been at a point when you've been through your thing and you're like I just gotta go sit by the fucking tree and watch this fucking sun but we're floating down the river and, like the, the rose petals or whatever they are, the flower petals, and then he starts floating not, you know, spoiler.
00:27:36.577 -->
00:27:38.902So he's floating into the dead, but it was made 1917.
00:27:38.902 -->
00:27:39.643It's a if you've never seen it.
00:27:40.104 -->
00:27:41.266It's been out for a while.
00:27:41.266 -->
00:27:42.527It's way ahead of its time.
00:27:42.607 -->
00:27:45.037Yeah, yeah but dude, so yeah, so that it's very real.
00:27:45.037 -->
00:27:51.986So, okay, so that guy and I want to get back to that because I, you just blew my mind yeah, so that really happened there was a guy that you were what was your character's name?
00:27:51.986 -->
00:27:52.935They, what was his real name?
00:27:52.935 -->
00:27:56.682Because they only call him captain america uh, dave mcgraw, dave mcgraw, captain mcgraw.
00:27:56.682 -->
00:28:01.499That guy was like an over intensified, like yeah, look at me, motherfucker.
00:28:01.558 -->
00:28:03.045Like yeah, he was an analyst.
00:28:03.045 -->
00:28:07.361He was like super, super smart they usually he would never be involved in combat like he was crazy smart.
00:28:07.361 -->
00:28:13.002He would be in the back, taking all of the intel that people gave to the recon marines and like putting it together and sending it out.
00:28:13.002 -->
00:28:19.986But they took all of the best soldiers, put them into humvees and then just sent them as fast as possible.
00:28:19.986 -->
00:28:25.358It was actually to kind of distract the iraqi army, because they thought that that was the invasion, when really they were going to come around the side.
00:28:25.358 -->
00:28:26.988So military strategy or something like that, no.
00:28:27.048 -->
00:28:33.076So I always thought yeah, I always thought that dave mcgraw looked at what they were asking him to do and was like this is fucking crazy.
00:28:33.076 -->
00:28:35.298Yeah, which the rest of them did, but they were all soldiers.
00:28:35.298 -->
00:28:42.950They were like badass reconnaissance marines, like green Berets, navy SEALs, like the elite of the elite, and so they were like, well, we'll just get through it, we're the best of the best.
00:28:42.950 -->
00:28:46.189This guy, I think, looked at it and was like this is crazy.
00:28:46.189 -->
00:28:47.714I mean, we should not be doing this.
00:28:47.714 -->
00:28:49.497So I think that that was why he was always freaked out.
00:28:50.678 -->
00:29:01.650I mean there was a great line that was in it where he says my character says to stay in a place where you think you might die, to remain calm when you're in a place where you think you might die is insane it's the definition of insanity.
00:29:01.650 -->
00:29:08.217Yes, so he was looking around and I think he was like the fact that you all are not flipping out is what's crazy, because what we're doing is so.
00:29:08.278 -->
00:29:23.752That's why he was so amped up and not not really suited for combat yeah, and I honestly, and I and I think later I learned it, but early on I was totally and I wasn't an I don't believe I was an asshole, but at the firehouse the guy had to be like when we got calls I would open up the door so fucking hard that he goes.
00:29:23.752 -->
00:29:33.123So sometimes my kids come up here and you would have flattened them and he's like, so, let's like be safe while we go help people, and I was like, let's be safe, you're right, you know what I mean.
00:29:33.123 -->
00:29:35.297But so like, so I, so that I love that.
00:29:35.297 -->
00:29:45.296You like even, obviously, to the people that are like wanting to be actors or whatever that like would get any for like I'm getting something from this to be like what was this guy actually thinking?
00:29:45.296 -->
00:29:45.777And see all that.
00:29:45.998 -->
00:29:47.280But so, yeah, what happened with the ak's?
00:29:47.280 -->
00:29:57.461Because I I watched that scene and sometimes in scenes I'll literally have to like disassociate when it feels like you know, you're like, oh, I remember getting yelled at like this, but like he was literally like go fuck if you shoot one of those one more time.
00:29:57.461 -->
00:30:05.191But so you, yeah, because they, when they heard it, they heard it as enemy fire, absolutely, and he just heard it as like mistake coming to america.
00:30:05.817 -->
00:30:17.242Yeah, he was definitely teed up and definitely, you know, ready to go, but he got a hold of a bunch of the enemy ak's because he wanted to have them for safety or security, or he thought it was fucking cool or he or he was just you know out of his brain a little bit.
00:30:17.242 -->
00:30:22.801But but yeah, when you start firing those guns, these super elite trained soldiers are like that's the sound of an AK-47.
00:30:22.801 -->
00:30:24.141We don't have AK-47s.
00:30:24.141 -->
00:30:32.861There must be people shooting at us, which is what Captain McGraw, captain America, didn't have like that foresight, like kicking the fire door open too quickly the reality of what you need to do.
00:30:33.556 -->
00:30:40.008There were a lot of moments like that, because three of the real recon marines with us on the show yes, uh, one of them plays himself.
00:30:40.008 -->
00:30:46.729Two guys play other characters, so not only were they military advisors that could tell us all about the marines, but they could recount exactly what we were going.
00:30:46.729 -->
00:30:48.537Incredible, it's amazing well they can.
00:30:48.616 -->
00:30:57.923And also, like every time there's a, every fucking time there's a scene with firefighters in shows about, there's always a thing where I'm like the hose isn't hooked up, yep, yep.
00:30:57.923 -->
00:31:03.141And in that show I'll try to watch for like anything, and I'm always like everything's accounted for.
00:31:03.141 -->
00:31:04.304Yeah, and it's wild.
00:31:04.304 -->
00:31:06.539They were on top of it and I just watched the scene.
00:31:06.539 -->
00:31:07.103I just finished.
00:31:07.103 -->
00:31:17.125I guess it was episode five the other day and at the end, your character.
00:31:17.125 -->
00:31:23.071I laughed so hard I would be too, as you keep your intensity and you're like I'm still now no one will shoot him.
00:31:23.071 -->
00:31:26.637Yeah, I just thought that was such a funny, like now.
00:31:26.758 -->
00:31:27.640It's just like it's intense.
00:31:27.640 -->
00:31:29.746But I was just like, oh my god, I saw that.
00:31:29.746 -->
00:31:32.919I was like I read that as a funny like line in a scene and shit too.
00:31:32.919 -->
00:31:34.721So, um, that's crazy.
00:31:34.721 -->
00:31:35.502Well, I do.
00:31:35.502 -->
00:31:37.465Uh, there's a couple things I want to talk about.
00:31:37.465 -->
00:31:42.888I want to get too far off but, like I said, and I think we can both agree, like I said, I don't, I would never say that.
00:31:42.888 -->
00:31:46.163I don't think Jeepers Creepers is the best movie of all time.
00:31:46.163 -->
00:31:49.195But like when I was a kid, we grew up in that DVD time we didn't have the internet.
00:31:49.195 -->
00:31:53.897When I grew up at my house, like everyone else did, I go over someone else's house like have you ever heard of LimeWire?
00:31:53.897 -->
00:31:58.746And I'm like break your parents, break your parents computer for me right now, let me see it.
00:31:58.746 -->
00:32:00.650I have to hear the news story of the year.
00:32:00.835 -->
00:32:01.799I'm like do it right now.
00:32:02.214 -->
00:32:06.106So we would get so fucking intense about like watching stuff at other people's houses.
00:32:06.106 -->
00:32:08.741But at my house I just had like the DVDs and VHSs Me too.
00:32:08.741 -->
00:32:11.095Yeah, so you know how it is and so it's like.
00:32:11.095 -->
00:32:12.576So I remember Jeepers, Creepers 2.
00:32:12.576 -->
00:32:16.361, and even people would be like whatever but.
00:32:16.421 -->
00:32:27.491I really love that movie because they always say in horror movies you're not supposed to see the thing, and in that movie I actually like how you see the thing, seeing it does make it when he's licking the window and then I'll show people they laugh during that part.
00:32:27.491 -->
00:32:31.383I'm like it's pretty scary when you're younger.
00:32:31.383 -->
00:32:35.759I just love that movie and you did such a good job of, like I said, like playing that intense character.
00:32:35.759 -->
00:32:42.171But also I can tell me if I'm wrong I could see in it that you're also like we're also making like a fucking silly horror movie.
00:32:42.171 -->
00:32:49.855Yeah, so there's times, like whenever your characters gets the fucking thing your hand with the fucking when he throws that like yeah into the tree, yeah into the tree.
00:32:49.855 -->
00:32:52.784That scene I kept thinking about it once we did.
00:32:52.784 -->
00:32:54.007Once you said you do the podcast, I go.
00:32:54.007 -->
00:32:55.156I love that scene when you go.
00:32:55.156 -->
00:33:00.994Oh, because I'm like that's actually kind of over the top but also legit how you would react to that.
00:33:01.015 -->
00:33:02.779You wouldn't go wow.
00:33:02.839 -->
00:33:03.362You would just go.
00:33:03.803 -->
00:33:05.125Oh my God, like you reacted.
00:33:05.125 -->
00:33:06.901But like what was that acting Like?
00:33:06.901 -->
00:33:07.945Was that different at all?
00:33:07.945 -->
00:33:08.749Was it more fun?
00:33:08.749 -->
00:33:09.814Was it like less?
00:33:09.814 -->
00:33:10.655What was that like?
00:33:10.655 -->
00:33:17.628And I also we don't have to get into it, but I know that not every part of maybe that movie was great, like I've heard that, whatever, but for me, watching I love it.
00:33:17.628 -->
00:33:19.854Dude, I think that they're like there's.
00:33:20.074 -->
00:33:24.685you have to remember sometimes that people are watching this and they want to enjoy watching it and it's not real.
00:33:24.685 -->
00:33:28.344And there is something to the fact of like, make a movie that looks like a movie like.
00:33:28.344 -->
00:33:38.223You know, I was arguing with somebody the other day about which fashion the furious is a good one, because I was like the first one is the only good one is he's like and he's like fuck, no, dude five is great when they go to space.
00:33:38.223 -->
00:33:42.309There is an enjoyment in doing stuff in the way that it is awesome and looks awesome.
00:33:42.309 -->
00:33:54.948So sometimes, instead of getting method to what a knife would feel like, I'm just like what should this kind of look like for the people doing it, shouldn't it?
00:33:54.948 -->
00:33:59.278And so I think about maybe the audience watching it and just make an awesome movie.
00:33:59.278 -->
00:34:09.791Make it Lee cool, make somebody be like yeah, that looked like it hurt really bad, it did, and you made a great one, I was pulling a gun out on some silly show called medical police and like it's an over the top spoof comedy.
00:34:09.811 -->
00:34:10.672It's a complete parody.
00:34:10.672 -->
00:34:19.001And so, like the way I was pulling it out was to look like an over the top spoof gun thing and I was like whipping it out from the side and going like this.
00:34:19.001 -->
00:34:21.987And this awesome actor, rob corddry, comes over and he's like why are you pulling the gun out like that?
00:34:21.987 -->
00:34:29.614And I was like I don't know, it just looks like the way guns come out in movies and he's like that's the fucking best acting tip I've ever seen and he goes over to the director he goes, he goes, he goes.
00:34:29.634 -->
00:34:30.436You know what eric's doing?
00:34:30.436 -->
00:34:33.980He's pulling a gun out the way people pull guns out on tv.
00:34:33.980 -->
00:34:35.322I was like.
00:34:35.322 -->
00:34:38.925I was like there you go and it looks fucking awesome.
00:34:38.925 -->
00:34:42.771You know like sometimes we're not always doing you know succession?
00:34:42.771 -->
00:34:46.262Yeah, we're not always doing that and then just make it look.
00:34:46.644 -->
00:34:55.239make it look awesome, if that's what it's supposed to do, so a little bit of Jeepers, creepers, like that stuff there was like running into the tree and like having it hit there and I was just like this will look cool, which is not necessarily the best acting technique.
00:34:55.239 -->
00:34:56.641Yes, the best acting technique.
00:34:56.641 -->
00:34:59.085Yes, but at the same time, like it's great, movie making technique.
00:34:59.144 -->
00:34:59.465Yes.
00:34:59.806 -->
00:35:06.525And so I think I remember being like oh, ah, yes, and then I started apologizing profusely Cause I thought Scott would do that.
00:35:06.525 -->
00:35:09.601Scotty would be like I'm so sorry for being an asshole earlier, save me.
00:35:09.641 -->
00:35:24.722Yeah, well, dude, I'm appreciate you walking me through that Cause actor like me, like I've only done like I like me and brian squarro, uh, did like online like acting stuff and I've done like I did like high school drama shit too.
00:35:24.722 -->
00:35:28.059And just like on set is what I've like learned to, just kind of watching.
00:35:28.059 -->
00:35:29.141Yeah, and I've always.
00:35:29.141 -->
00:35:29.985It's just one of those things.
00:35:29.985 -->
00:35:36.478Like acting and like music are always two things that I've always revered but never really been able to like, do or accomplish.
00:35:36.478 -->
00:35:50.929So whenever I hear stuff like that, because there's time in sketches where I'm like like I played the guy from brown and croupet and I didn't think it worked because I literally the whole time was like I watched videos and I'm like like I kept trying to be terry croupet and then they're like bobby, just be fucking silly.
00:35:50.989 -->
00:35:59.425And as soon as I did, I was like, oh, we've been wasting some fucking takes, or whatever so it's yeah, like you said, sometimes just do what acting looks like or whatever, yeah, but that kind of stuff.
00:35:59.465 -->
00:36:00.905But I think you must do that in comedy too.
00:36:00.905 -->
00:36:04.471I think, like you have to hit a joke in a way that people expect jokes to be hit.
00:36:04.554 -->
00:36:11.528There are times where I'm authentically having fun and being in the moment, whereas if it's like almost you could be recording like for like a part of your life.
00:36:11.528 -->
00:36:13.155I'm like this, I'm so present right now.
00:36:13.155 -->
00:36:13.757It's crazy.
00:36:13.757 -->
00:36:19.487And then other times where I'm like I'm a comic doing that, like for sure, and that's the acting part.
00:36:19.487 -->
00:36:35.139But whenever you can like, when I sit in it and I'm like leaned against a wall and like kind of and it might be the same with acting, but when you kind of feel cool but not like your ego is big, when you're like, yeah, I'm fucking doing stand-up right now like there has to be that a little bit with like, maybe with acting, is it when you watch it on the thing and you're like that looks good?
00:36:35.239 -->
00:36:44.960yeah, I mean sometimes you're in it and you're like this is fucking cool, Like I am acting right now with this person and this huge set is here and all these cameras and everything like that, and you can just go ahead and like act it.
00:36:45.422 -->
00:37:07.532And then there's times that you get completely lost in it, like you're saying, and you're not necessarily present, because I think you're, you're completely in it, so you're present in what the situation is, and you sort of go in between those two, like sometimes you're completely manipulating it just to make it like work, which is fun as hell, yeah, and then sometimes you're like wow, I don't even know what happened there, but there's a lot of technique, because if you get so lost in it, you know and you're like how was that?
00:37:07.793 -->
00:37:14.998yeah, we don't know, we didn't see it or fucking hear it yeah, maybe like face forward and say the line you know in the way that the microphone can pick it up yeah.
00:37:14.998 -->
00:37:20.369So it's a wonderful thing to kind of like scale in between those two things, but I love the full technique stuff.
00:37:20.474 -->
00:37:25.331I love you know, I don't mind it at all, I think sometimes you feel bad because you're like that's not the real stuff.
00:37:25.351 -->
00:37:28.021that I felt when I was, you know, a kid, dreaming of being an actor.
00:37:28.021 -->
00:37:28.985But it is the real stuff.
00:37:28.985 -->
00:37:35.177You were standing there on the movie set, pulling the gun out, you know, and making the thing that you're trying to make.
00:37:35.197 -->
00:37:44.050Yes and yes and you would make you do it with your friends, and I'll like watch kids rehearse lines and they do it better than some people I know with an agent Like literally like it's crazy.
00:37:45.996 -->
00:37:48.224Timothy came in and just nailed it.
00:37:48.224 -->
00:37:53.119Yeah, he looked at me, he looked at me and he goes some of these acts Hacks here we go and just killed it.
00:37:53.139 -->
00:37:53.800Well, they're the best one.
00:37:53.820 -->
00:37:55.862I mean, you know also, we used to play cops and robbers.
00:37:55.862 -->
00:37:57.304We used to play like whatever.
00:37:57.304 -->
00:38:06.902We played in the backyard and we fully believed that you didn't have to convince us that we weren't cops or robbers at all, and all you really did was you did like a cop voice and you stood like a cop and everyone believed that you were a police officer.
00:38:06.942 -->
00:38:31.436Yeah, and it's dude and little kid actors are so funny I played uh, I've never no-transcript child so we're like, we're like playing games, like they have to be like quiet on set, and I'm like for real.
00:38:31.436 -->
00:38:41.333So then like and her mom's like sitting over there, and we're sitting there and all of a sudden they cut and like the boom mics on us and I would kill if someone has this on like recorded.
00:38:41.333 -->
00:38:43.117And we're sitting there and this little girl goes.
00:38:43.117 -->
00:38:44.179Can I tell you secret?
00:38:44.260 -->
00:38:45.985and I was like I was like.
00:38:46.005 -->
00:38:49.704I was like, yeah, it's getting recorded sure I was like for sure and she goes.
00:38:49.704 -->
00:38:50.976That's where she could happen yeah exactly.
00:38:50.976 -->
00:38:51.255I go.
00:38:51.255 -->
00:38:57.327She goes I steal money from my parents and I start dying.
00:38:57.327 -->
00:38:58.976And my wife goes what do you say?
00:38:58.976 -->
00:38:59.478I was like she.
00:38:59.478 -->
00:39:00.882I steal money from my parents.
00:39:00.882 -->
00:39:02.382She goes we got to tell your mom.
00:39:02.382 -->
00:39:03.800And I go hey, leave the kid out.
00:39:03.800 -->
00:39:07.880I was like this kid should be learning science right now and she's in a commercial.
00:39:07.880 -->
00:39:10.099But no, I just she goes.
00:39:10.099 -->
00:39:11.625I steal money from my parents.
00:39:11.795 -->
00:39:12.860Why didn't she want to tell you that?
00:39:13.199 -->
00:39:17.384Because I think and I mean this and it's weird that little I never noticed that a little kid would have that.
00:39:17.384 -->
00:39:21.807But I'm like a guy that like after a comedy show, people will be like you know, I have a favorite kid.
00:39:21.807 -->
00:39:23.028I'm like, why are you telling me this?
00:39:23.028 -->
00:39:24.530They go, I don't know.
00:39:24.530 -->
00:39:28.699One time I was on the metro link and this woman she probably to be like I'm probably like 60 years old.
00:39:28.699 -->
00:39:32.277We were just getting along sitting together, both missed our stops, ended up at the airport.
00:39:32.277 -->
00:39:35.181We were like oh my gosh, and she was telling me about like her life.
00:39:35.181 -->
00:39:39.570She's like I've always kind of wished I, you know, maybe did this, and I'm like, wow, she was like I don't know why I'm telling you this.
00:39:39.570 -->
00:39:44.563I go, I don't either, but like and I just I think there's an openness that I have and I'll say anything.
00:39:44.563 -->
00:39:51.876So I think it kind of like opens people up maybe or whatever, but even little kids confessing their sins yeah, even confessing their sins for sure, which I grew up in the catholic church.
00:39:51.916 -->
00:39:53.016Maybe someone's rubbing off on me.
00:39:53.056 -->
00:39:54.880My grandpa, yeah me too did you really?
00:39:55.360 -->
00:40:08.777oh, dude, I grew up, yeah, and honestly, when you're a kid, it's such a good place to like pretend, meditate, like everyone else is zoned out, and I remember just being like, dude, these are some crazy paintings, like it was just, it was such a wild thing Like I still don't know.
00:40:08.777 -->
00:40:10.864I've said this a lot, but I don't know where the homily goes.
00:40:10.864 -->
00:40:11.164I don't know.
00:40:11.164 -->
00:40:28.324I just zoned out every single time and my god in the heart, yes, and you're singing a lot of them.
00:40:28.344 -->
00:40:29.827You're like oh, I love a lent.
00:40:29.827 -->
00:40:34.684Everything is dark good friday's great candle.
00:40:34.684 -->
00:40:37.858I remember saying to my brother one time I was like good friday is so cool.
00:40:37.858 -->
00:40:39.923Yes, and he goes.
00:40:39.923 -->
00:40:42.146It's not cool, you know, because we were in it at the time.
00:40:42.146 -->
00:40:44.460We were like this is the death and I was like it's pretty awesome.
00:40:44.480 -->
00:40:46.005Dude, look honestly, Everything gets dark.
00:40:46.275 -->
00:40:47.240They strip the altar.
00:40:48.559 -->
00:40:49.661Dude, it does get dark.
00:40:49.661 -->
00:40:50.364They strip the altar.
00:41:00.534 -->
00:41:02.565When you walk up and you're getting communion.
00:41:02.585 -->
00:41:04.675Don't worry about it, you're cool, you're cool, we're here with us.
00:41:04.695 -->
00:41:08.063You can drink with us only a sip, only dude.
00:41:08.103 -->
00:41:08.865We used to do this thing.
00:41:08.865 -->
00:41:10.155Did you guys have at your parish?
00:41:10.155 -->
00:41:14.266Did you guys have the thing where they're like gambling's wrong unless it's at a carnival?
00:41:14.266 -->
00:41:19.083And there's a cake walk yeah, and then dude, I dude, I want a dog.
00:41:19.083 -->
00:41:20.847They're so irresponsible with those things.
00:41:20.847 -->
00:41:23.041I want a dog and I came over to my family.
00:41:23.041 -->
00:41:25.480I go we want a dog and they're like no, you didn't.
00:41:25.480 -->
00:41:28.362My friend Randy got a dog.
00:41:28.362 -->
00:41:29.777She raised this dog.
00:41:29.777 -->
00:41:30.920I come over, I'm like that's my dog.
00:41:31.262 -->
00:41:33.266Oh my God, he never knows right.
00:41:33.266 -->
00:41:41.045Yeah, yeah, dad, you can't tell me.
00:41:41.286 -->
00:41:42.887Oh my God, I was a teen parent.
00:41:42.887 -->
00:41:43.588I was a teen parent.
00:41:43.608 -->
00:41:44.550I blame the Catholic church?
00:41:44.550 -->
00:41:47.498Yeah, me too, for sure, and luckily that's all we have to blame him on.
00:41:47.679 -->
00:41:50.427Yeah, right, so many things, oh, my God.
00:41:50.427 -->
00:42:04.199Well, and also you and your wife.
00:42:04.199 -->
00:42:12.472Like I said, like sometimes you meet someone and even one of them being awesome is great, but you guys like how you both turned around and I literally I'll bother people but like just being me, but I literally was like I feel like I'm like murking up your guys's water.
00:42:12.693 -->
00:42:15.719You guys just had such a peacefulness around you.
00:42:15.719 -->
00:42:16.519We had a great night.
00:42:16.519 -->
00:42:17.722That's good's awesome.
00:42:17.722 -->
00:42:18.163That means a lot.
00:42:18.182 -->
00:42:21.907But what's it like being married and like being a dad?
00:42:21.907 -->
00:42:23.190Yep, how many kids you have.
00:42:23.190 -->
00:42:23.690I have two.
00:42:23.690 -->
00:42:26.635That is awesome that is you seem like I saw.
00:42:26.635 -->
00:42:27.900I did see a photo of you.
00:42:27.900 -->
00:42:36.737I pretend like I didn't I was like how many kids you guys have I saw a photo of you like at bush stadium, like the john ham fucking eric ninninger, the best actors are from here.
00:42:36.757 -->
00:42:40.947bro fucking john goodman, goodman, fucking all from here dude Fucking Jenna Fisher.
00:42:41.074 -->
00:42:42.217Dude, everybody's from here.
00:42:42.478 -->
00:42:43.240And I saw that picture.
00:42:43.521 -->
00:42:46.019Ellie Kemper, yes, dude and all these great people.
00:42:46.019 -->
00:42:52.505And when I saw you guys at the stadium and just that picture you, you just seem so fucking happy.
00:42:52.505 -->
00:42:52.864So what's?
00:42:52.925 -->
00:42:53.686just that was a good night.
00:42:53.686 -->
00:42:54.469That was a good night.
00:42:54.469 -->
00:42:55.451Yeah, Do you love it?
00:42:55.451 -->
00:42:56.693Yeah, it's really really great.
00:42:56.693 -->
00:43:04.126Um, it's funny cause I have a 18 year old boy who just finished his freshman year of college and I have a 12 year old girl who's just finishing sixth grade, and so I get the boy and the girl.
00:43:04.126 -->
00:43:14.943There's a big split between the two of them six, me and my brother seven.
00:43:14.963 -->
00:43:17.134It's a good distance because I I feel like me and my brother have like a healthy relationship, like I never.
00:43:17.134 -->
00:43:19.344Just if I beat the shit out of him, it's like well he's seven years younger.
00:43:19.385 -->
00:43:21.052What are you doing?
00:43:21.052 -->
00:43:22.197But whenever they're, like that gap.
00:43:22.237 -->
00:43:23.121It's like nice that he.
00:43:23.121 -->
00:43:26.530He was probably like pumped to be whenever he like he got to be a big brother and shit.
00:43:26.670 -->
00:43:27.621It didn't like change his life.
00:43:27.621 -->
00:43:29.222It wasn't like he was the baby and then all of a sudden.
00:43:29.222 -->
00:43:32.407It wasn't you know, he was he was six and then seven and eight and stuff like that.
00:43:32.688 -->
00:43:33.568No, I love being a dad.
00:43:33.568 -->
00:43:34.289My kids are great.
00:43:34.289 -->
00:43:35.612My wife is a wonderful mother.
00:43:35.612 -->
00:43:40.525We've raised like two kids that we're super proud of and then you get this whole relationship that you don't expect.
00:43:40.525 -->
00:43:49.804Then they're like friends and you know mentors, essentially because you get to like teach them stuff or tell them stuff, but then they also teach you things when they see perspective.
00:43:49.804 -->
00:43:55.498My son's like grown, so the two of us have an older kind of adult relationship.
00:43:55.498 -->
00:43:58.420Now that's starting to blossom, but then when he was younger, it was a different relationship.
00:43:58.420 -->
00:44:00.226But no, I enjoy it.
00:44:00.226 -->
00:44:04.402It's awesome and that was a really good night because my son has been at college for this year, so to have him back.
00:44:04.402 -->
00:44:06.951We got the band back together and then we were at the show.
00:44:07.701 -->
00:44:08.806No, he was at the Cardinal game.
00:44:16.365 -->
00:44:19.079I was like I not in that picture is my brother, his wife and his two kids.
00:44:19.079 -->
00:44:20.684So we did like a family memorial day thing.
00:44:20.684 -->
00:44:27.130It's just fun, it's like it's family, you know and it's your family and you can like do whatever you want, you know, I mean, you can be like.
00:44:27.130 -->
00:44:28.320This is what sundays are.
00:44:28.360 -->
00:44:34.190This is what tuesday night's gonna be like like we're gonna do a podcast with this fucking idiot, and we say that stuff too, because my wife's an actress.
00:44:34.210 -->
00:44:40.027So there's a lot of times when we're like, okay, the two of us are going to be in the back acting crazy, you can come and watch if you want.
00:44:40.027 -->
00:44:41.485And the kids are like we don't want to watch your acting.
00:44:41.485 -->
00:44:45.260But funny thing, when I was younger I was on a Disney show called Kicking it.
00:44:45.260 -->
00:44:49.190I played the principal of a wacky principal on a Disney show.
00:44:49.190 -->
00:45:00.262And then my wife acting, being like he's divorced.
00:45:00.166 -->
00:45:00.699He's kind of a drinking problem, but the kids can't know about that.
00:45:00.699 -->
00:45:01.639He really keeps it separate secrets, yeah.
00:45:01.639 -->
00:45:03.617And then you get there, hey kids, and they're like that is what that guy does, it's actually more method than you think.
00:45:03.657 -->
00:45:05.219He's had a little bit of panic on him.
00:45:05.219 -->
00:45:15.115Um, my wife was on lab rats, which was another Disney show at the same time, and so she was the mom on lab rats and so the way that they would do it was on Fridays you would do the entire episode of the show for the network executives.
00:45:15.115 -->
00:45:18.201They've called a run-through, so think, like the play the entire episode.
00:45:18.240 -->
00:45:27.503We would just stand up on the set, everyone would watch it and my son was eight years old at the time or like six, seven and eight when we were doing it and they would always say that he could come to the run-throughs because that was the target audience.
00:45:27.503 -->
00:45:32.913So what you're trying to do is you're trying to get the Disney executives to say that that episode is awesome and they don't need to change anything.
00:45:33.293 -->
00:45:36.418So if you can have an eight year old standing there laughing at everything they can be like.
00:45:36.418 -->
00:45:37.340See, it works perfectly.
00:45:37.380 -->
00:45:55.871So it was just really really really cool, like specific to our family is that on Fridays we would do a run through of kicking it and James would stand there and watch his dad, like when all these executives and all these people do like silly stuff on a Disney show, and then when they finished the kicking it run through, they would walk across the studio lot to another soundstage and they would do the lab rats run through.
00:45:55.871 -->
00:46:00.755Yeah, and so James would be there watching at the kickin' it run through and then James would walk over.
00:46:00.755 -->
00:46:05.547That's such a beautiful life and that was his like period of his childhood.
00:46:05.547 -->
00:46:06.831Right, there was like that.
00:46:06.940 -->
00:46:08.880So it's this weird thing where it's just family.
00:46:08.880 -->
00:46:10.527You're doing exactly what everybody does.
00:46:10.527 -->
00:46:14.871They're raising kids and working their job and creating traditions and trying to like spend as much time as they can with them.
00:46:14.871 -->
00:46:16.632We just do it as actors.
00:46:16.632 -->
00:46:22.896That's our job, and so you get these weird moments where it's bring your kid to work day, but he got to see his mom and his dad.
00:46:22.896 -->
00:46:32.487There was probably one season where they crossed over exactly the same time and he would just walk to the next studio and then be standing there watching mom do her lab rats yeah, it was awesome.
00:46:32.567 -->
00:46:33.447That is so cool.
00:46:33.447 -->
00:46:34.309And then aren't you?
00:46:34.309 -->
00:46:39.501And also because, even like I feel like it's hard for a parent to like watch, you know your kid be like I want to be a performer.
00:46:39.501 -->
00:46:44.201But once you're a performer, there's the thing where you're like I know how the organism works.
00:46:44.201 -->
00:46:53.833So once they get to see it a lot it seems like a lot of acting kids are like I don't want to do that and you're like nice like a little bit don't let them become actors, do they?
00:46:53.873 -->
00:46:59.380show any sign of like interest in that, or are they like they're around as kids and they're like I don't really care my son wants nothing to do with it.
00:46:59.480 -->
00:47:03.981Yeah, he's very much the introvert, which is funny because he's the child of two actors yes well you go.
00:47:04.001 -->
00:47:15.494You go the opposite of your parents, definitely, I think yeah it might have been that, because he was exposed to a lot of that stuff yeah, they're introverted because you're extroverted for them, so they get to be which it's like and, if we're being honest, introverts makes way more sense, like psychologically.
00:47:15.554 -->
00:47:21.313It's crazy that we're all like tell everybody everything all the time, like maybe you should keep something to yourself, dude, my brother's.
00:47:21.434 -->
00:47:24.045Yeah, my brother's like extroverted with people, but definitely more introverted.
00:47:24.045 -->
00:47:27.362And you can just see him thinking through things and all of a sudden I'm like, oh man, I really slipped and fell.
00:47:27.362 -->
00:47:29.889He's like yeah, I saw it that's my son.
00:47:30.168 -->
00:47:33.335We're walking down the street and we're all like this and he's like he would just walk.
00:47:33.335 -->
00:47:37.949You don't have to like see if anyone's watching you Dude my best friend literally saved my life multiple times.
00:47:38.039 -->
00:47:45.931But in St Louis I think we were walking to like I can't remember what we were going to but like downtown Grabs me, pulls me back Full truck and I just go.
00:47:45.931 -->
00:47:47.965And he's like, how do you not notice?
00:47:47.965 -->
00:47:51.027I go what's cra?
00:47:51.027 -->
00:47:52.128Like I'm not, like it didn't affect me.
00:47:52.128 -->
00:47:52.989Life is so short.
00:47:52.989 -->
00:47:57.532I was like man, life's crazy let's go like, like, that's crazy so yeah, that's odd.
00:47:57.532 -->
00:47:58.913So he has no sign of like.
00:47:58.932 -->
00:48:01.315My daughter is all artist all the time.
00:48:01.315 -->
00:48:02.534She absolutely wants to do it.
00:48:02.534 -->
00:48:06.539She's more of a drawing type of girl but she's extrovert to the.
00:48:06.539 -->
00:48:12.101She got all of the acting stuff, my son got all of the sanity, yes, and naomi does everything else.
00:48:12.101 -->
00:48:14.525So she'll probably end up doing something in that world.
00:48:14.525 -->
00:48:18.052But my daughter probably wants to like, write, produce direct.
00:48:18.052 -->
00:48:21.344Basically she doesn't want anyone to tell her how to do it, so she'll be on her own.
00:48:21.661 -->
00:48:25.429And then again and I know I'm joking, but it is nice that at least once they want to do that.
00:48:25.429 -->
00:48:28.083That you know how to help them or how to be like.
00:48:28.083 -->
00:48:29.865Here's what you can do, or also to be like.
00:48:29.865 -->
00:48:34.811You don't have to do that or whatever, it's just certain pitfalls that like that's what, that's all.
00:48:34.871 -->
00:48:41.748I think everyone wants to help, cause you're good, it's no matter what you do, even the easy route is hard, cause whatever's hard to you is hard to you.
00:48:41.748 -->
00:49:01.001But it's like if you can miss a couple of pitfalls, like that's what I told my little brother, like I try to never older brother him, but I was like we have smoked cigs together but he's like, I just did, I stopped like, or whatever yeah, he weird enough he has, like he's so introverted that he goes.
00:49:01.061 -->
00:49:05.880I actually buy some because I think it's cool to just have them wrapped up, my mom would buy him.
00:49:05.880 -->
00:49:08.744Love that guy my mom would buy him cigarettes when we were kids I would literally be.
00:49:08.744 -->
00:49:09.403Can I get a dirt bike?
00:49:09.403 -->
00:49:11.766They're like I don't know and get all scared.
00:49:11.766 -->
00:49:14.510And then my mom's buying my brother cigarettes, like he.
00:49:14.510 -->
00:49:21.143Only he likes how they look and I'm like, yeah, they're fucking cool, go have some of that wine joey's, so he's so he's a very good like.
00:49:21.423 -->
00:49:24.295Think about this like I'm just like you want to do it or not.
00:49:24.295 -->
00:49:25.800That's awesome, oh my god.
00:49:25.822 -->
00:49:26.403But yeah, that's cool.
00:49:26.403 -->
00:49:27.186So she wants to do it.
00:49:27.186 -->
00:49:31.443And then are you guys like is she doing classes or doing like do you have a?
00:49:31.443 -->
00:49:32.485Does she have like an agent?
00:49:32.706 -->
00:49:36.382like yeah, yeah, do you have a rule about that, like 18 or anything?
00:49:36.382 -->
00:49:43.590Well, I wanted her to do it in school, when it was like safe and there wasn't a job, yeah, you know where, like she felt pressure to get the part or felt bad if she didn't do it.
00:49:43.590 -->
00:49:45.003So right now she's just in the school place.
00:49:45.065 -->
00:49:49.704Yeah, and then there was a point, too, where the you know agents were like, hey, we need a full family audition, we might bring the whole family.
00:49:49.704 -->
00:49:50.286Those are not.
00:49:50.286 -->
00:49:50.987I've always seen those.
00:49:50.987 -->
00:49:52.610I'm like that's got to be nice, we're a real family.
00:49:52.769 -->
00:49:55.914I got two commercials during COVID with my girlfriend at the time we were living together.
00:49:55.914 -->
00:49:58.027Got her in two commercials, Then I got her one.
00:49:58.027 -->
00:50:00.231I go hey, my agent just thinks that maybe you could get this one.
00:50:00.251 -->
00:50:00.693She looked at it.
00:50:01.021 -->
00:50:01.242She goes.
00:50:01.242 -->
00:50:10.005I don't know if I want that I go, it's crazy, you're already turning down roles.
00:50:10.244 -->
00:50:10.865I couldn, and I'm like.
00:50:10.865 -->
00:50:13.949I know the project doesn't speak to me way better than me.
00:50:14.228 -->
00:50:15.309My best friend was the same way.
00:50:15.309 -->
00:50:16.190We did stand up here.
00:50:16.190 -->
00:50:17.211I took so long.
00:50:17.211 -->
00:50:19.634Here's his trajectory we both did an open mic.
00:50:19.634 -->
00:50:20.393We went on.
00:50:20.393 -->
00:50:21.454Then he didn't do stand up for a while.
00:50:21.454 -->
00:50:22.775Then we did a road show in Kansas city.
00:50:22.775 -->
00:50:23.717So he did the show with us.
00:50:23.717 -->
00:50:33.130So his second show was on the road, His third show was at his college opening for a dude, I'm going to stand up and I'm like that's the career bro.
00:50:33.570 -->
00:50:35.012It's crazy, but yeah, so you guys are.
00:50:35.152 -->
00:50:43.708You guys are doing classes and stuff to make her see like she loves it before you're like you see all your friends, like I saw you on TV because you know what that's like compared to the art of it for sure.
00:50:43.789 -->
00:51:02.956Yeah, and there's definitely like the crushing blow that when you don't get something, or the idea't, which is how I started doing it as well too yeah and then my son might start doing like extra work, but for the paycheck, yeah, because he's out in los angeles, yes, and that's a great introvert.
00:51:02.996 -->
00:51:07.170Like there's so many guys that like, like we've talked about, like on set, like I like how the whole thing works.
00:51:07.170 -->
00:51:09.463Like we said early on, we're both such midwest guys.
00:51:09.463 -->
00:51:14.773We were trying to help the grips and stuff like that and they're like you physically can't help us and you're like that's our job too.
00:51:14.793 -->
00:51:17.077You're taking our job and it's like that whole thing.
00:51:17.077 -->
00:51:20.865But also it's like, yeah, that world is great, like I know guys in that world.
00:51:20.865 -->
00:51:22.922There's certain guys that I won't name but like because they would.
00:51:22.922 -->
00:51:24.005They're introverted, they would hate it.
00:51:24.005 -->
00:51:26.521But like, every time I go up I'm like what I'll say, mark?
00:51:26.581 -->
00:51:27.342I'm like what up mark?
00:51:27.362 -->
00:51:35.030and he's like bobby how's it going, like you know, real quietly but like you go on these sets and you see people and them being great at their job is important too.
00:51:35.030 -->
00:51:36.532So many people like in stand-up.
00:51:36.532 -->
00:51:41.228It takes a while for them to realize like I kind of like stand-up but I'm actually way better at running shows.
00:51:41.228 -->
00:51:46.735Yeah, oh shit, maybe I'll just do this side of it produce shows or whatever so it's like, yeah, it's a way to find out what you want to do.
00:51:46.755 -->
00:51:49.702I think my son would be a very good like producer like oh yeah great.
00:51:49.702 -->
00:51:51.666He loves being in creative fields and stuff so.
00:51:51.666 -->
00:51:59.123But he's got a kind of that manager brain and then my daughter is all, all artist all the time, so she'll be, you know well, dude, I feel like the luckiest guy that I get to like meet people.
00:51:59.163 -->
00:52:05.110I mean, I I really have had such amazing interactions with people that I've grown up with, which you are, which is crazy.
00:52:05.110 -->
00:52:07.561Like literally I could do the call, but I literally call my best friend.
00:52:07.561 -->
00:52:10.885I go, dude, you remember malcolm in the middle?
00:52:10.885 -->
00:52:13.208I was like dude, I literally can't believe this.
00:52:13.208 -->
00:52:26.150But like, watching you guys and like a story of the year is my favorite band and when I got to meet them, it made me so happy to find out that, like, because I asked them once I became their friends, I was like, did you guys ever like, was it like hard being on the road, being away from your families?
00:52:26.150 -->
00:52:31.686They go, dude, we got married as soon as we were on the road we didn't have like that party phase and I go.
00:52:31.947 -->
00:52:34.871Well in your videos you guys would like kind of drink and they said it on their podcast.
00:52:34.871 -->
00:52:37.333They go a lot of those early videos.
00:52:37.333 -->
00:52:39.641Were us faking it, we would like I go.
00:52:39.641 -->
00:52:40.463When you're drunk, he goes.
00:52:40.965 -->
00:52:47.050We were faking it and I go what you threw up, he goes I just made myself throw up and he goes that was like the cool thing and they would be a fun punk.
00:52:47.050 -->
00:52:48.641They would do things that were so funny.
00:52:48.641 -->
00:52:53.268But when I would watch them I was like I I just got this like love off of them.
00:52:53.389 -->
00:53:10.208And I was like oh, that's cool to know that, like people that you see and identify with and like have inspired, like you do something you don't even know where it goes, and like I watched that movie so many fucking times, I've seen Jeepers Crew so many times to then meet them and to know that, like everyone in Story of the Year, I know their wives, their kids.
00:53:10.208 -->
00:53:12.608They're so nice, sweet.
00:53:12.608 -->
00:53:13.389I was at dude.
00:53:13.389 -->
00:53:14.670The lead singer story of the year was like.
00:53:14.670 -->
00:53:16.672Dan was like hey, do you want to come to my house on new year's.
00:53:16.672 -->
00:53:29.384So I went for I hung out with nikki glazer and she did a show at downtown and then I left and went to my favorite band's fucking house and like and I was like, and then we're sitting there and we're all hanging out, and then his daughter was playing piano and I go, I can't even play this song.
00:53:29.403 -->
00:53:35.742And she goes, it's just and I kept trying and I just remember she was like oh boy but I was just like this is just crazy.
00:53:35.762 -->
00:53:54.737We were all just like hanging out, like, and it just felt like because that's like something that I think is important like I've never I like I've partied, but I think that like just real love and like friendships and stuff, and it's cool to know that you had that, because sometimes you watch movies you don't know where people end up, and it's cool to know that you have that and that you've had that the whole time.
00:53:54.737 -->
00:53:56.905It's not something you're like no, I had a bad spot.
00:53:56.905 -->
00:54:01.224You're like no, I always had a wife and we found each other in acting school and then I had this beautiful family.
00:54:01.224 -->
00:54:05.282On fridays it was family night on the set, and you're like it wasn't even this thing.
00:54:05.282 -->
00:54:14.909We're like well then, my, I had to stop so that my wife could just act, that you guys both got to continue acting and stuff and like I'm just very I'm happy to know that you're amazing in that, Like dude, Benny loved you immediately.
00:54:14.929 -->
00:54:17.733The dog immediately yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:54:17.873 -->
00:54:18.795But, dude, that's awesome.
00:54:18.795 -->
00:54:20.992I'm happy to hear I think there's a lot of real people.
00:54:20.992 -->
00:54:33.190There's more real, cool, down to earth people in the arts and entertainment than you think, because the ones that are like assholes get the most publicity and that makes a good story, but I I have come come across very, very few people that sucked.
00:54:33.190 -->
00:54:33.992Can I tell you something?
00:54:34.152 -->
00:54:42.447yeah, I've this, I agree, and even the ones that do, like there's something that I've noticed that I was like they always say the cream rises to the top, but I kind of see the other side.
00:54:42.447 -->
00:54:46.523I go, but also like sediment and gross stuff will find its way to the bottom.
00:54:46.563 -->
00:54:48.909Yeah, so like it's a great analogy, I appreciate.
00:54:48.929 -->
00:54:50.201Thank you like I was just thinking of that one day.
00:54:50.201 -->
00:54:53.608I was just like because there was something had happened and I got really upset at someone.
00:54:53.608 -->
00:54:56.552And then I realized I was like I'm not, that's that's who they are.
00:54:56.552 -->
00:54:57.393It's not even at me.
00:54:57.393 -->
00:54:59.445They messed up and it was at a show.
00:54:59.445 -->
00:55:01.246They did something very egregious.
00:55:01.246 -->
00:55:06.550It was on two different shows and after we found out we were like this is crazy and I was upset with them.
00:55:06.550 -->
00:55:07.826I was like that's just how they see the world.
00:55:07.826 -->
00:55:19.617They'll find to someone later.
00:55:19.617 -->
00:55:19.675They go.
00:55:19.675 -->
00:55:21.362I just fired that guy off my show and I go, I just and they're like whoa, then we bonded and it was beautiful.
00:55:21.362 -->
00:55:21.759So it's like but yeah, I agree.
00:55:21.759 -->
00:55:25.373The same way, I do think that, like, if you want to get into this world like my, I think that was probably where my parents fear was even though I told you this outside my parent, I remember my mom I go.
00:55:25.373 -->
00:55:26.599How much does it cost to be batman?
00:55:26.599 -->
00:55:27.521And she goes.
00:55:27.942 -->
00:55:29.585Actually, they pay you and I was like are you?
00:55:29.644 -->
00:55:30.525fucking kidding me.
00:55:30.525 -->
00:55:31.588She was like it's actually a lot.
00:55:31.927 -->
00:55:37.561I'm batman, I bet fuck that from that point on from that point on.
00:55:37.601 -->
00:55:38.865That's all I wanted to do, yeah.
00:55:38.865 -->
00:55:45.311And then you realize you're like oh, they can be scared for me for that or whatever, but when I did stand up there was a dark side.
00:55:45.311 -->
00:55:47.963I've been around dark sides of like all that stuff.
00:55:47.963 -->
00:55:48.143Yeah.
00:55:48.465 -->
00:56:00.608But when you realize that, like when you are seeking out the earlier classes, when you realize that you're trying to do this and taking opportunities like we said earlier, that you're like I don't even know where this is going to go and being nice on set or at comedy clubs.
00:56:00.608 -->
00:56:07.327If you do that and if, when you come home, if you got nothing from it but you feel good, I would say that's what you're supposed to do.
00:56:07.327 -->
00:56:18.788But if the only way you feel good is like when am I going to get a thing like even though constantly be disappointed, you'll constantly be disappointed.
00:56:18.715 -->
00:56:19.010You'll be like when am I gonna get the next thing?
00:56:19.010 -->
00:56:19.934Yes, you know, it's like when am I gonna win my second academy award?
00:56:19.934 -->
00:56:21.492And you're like, bro, you just won an academy award or you went to the academy award.
00:56:21.512 -->
00:56:22.753Yes, you know I, um I.
00:56:22.954 -->
00:56:27.001I was really really lucky to be in wet, hot american summer with when they made the tv show.
00:56:27.181 -->
00:56:29.063Oh so these like comedic was it?
00:56:29.063 -->
00:56:35.552And I'm sorry to say, because my I had a friend early on that loved that and she had shown me that and we watched it because I didn't see it growing up and I was like this is amazing.
00:56:35.552 -->
00:56:36.114So you were.
00:56:36.114 -->
00:56:39.409When they did the, when they did the new one yeah, so they did the tv series.
00:56:39.409 -->
00:56:45.289Yeah, because you were, you had the multiple collars yeah, I don't remember you weren't doing I forgot you were doing tiger claw properties.
00:56:45.409 -->
00:56:46.351Yes, so they.
00:56:46.351 -->
00:56:47.983Yeah, they did the first day of camp.
00:56:47.983 -->
00:56:50.827So wet, hot american summer was that cult classic in like 2001.
00:56:50.827 -->
00:56:51.889And it was the last day of camp.
00:56:51.889 -->
00:56:53.271They went back and did a netflix series.
00:56:53.291 -->
00:57:01.199That was the first day of camp oh yeah, and I sort of reverse engineered it, so confused I started the other show and I was like I thought it was the end right, because I go back and then they did another one.
00:57:01.199 -->
00:57:11.489They did 10 years later, when everyone like comes back together so like I mean just murderers, row of comedic sketch people that I was so happy to just be in their orbit, like yes, I would.
00:57:11.489 -->
00:57:29.822They didn't really announce who they were going to be able to get, so like sometimes I would read the uh, the call sheet that you get the day before and I would like freak out at who was coming in, because these guys that were part of the um, the state, and then they also um, there was a little like weird web series called stella, but it's uh michael ian black, david wayne and michael showalter.
00:57:29.842 -->
00:57:30.382Those are these guys.
00:57:30.382 -->
00:57:31.565And then they did what hot american summer.
00:57:31.605 -->
00:57:35.351So they were their grown plants in the floor of their house, like they did some of the weirdest.
00:57:35.351 -->
00:57:36.112Have you seen the?
00:57:36.112 -->
00:57:39.925Sweatpants store one no dude, let's watch that after.
00:57:40.025 -->
00:57:48.291It's really funny sweatpants where they just sell sweatpants for people that are going through breakups and then the guy's like tailoring a sweat pant to him.
00:57:48.291 -->
00:57:51.385Is michael showalter asking michael ian black like what kind of breakup it is?
00:57:51.385 -->
00:57:53.409It's great, dude, that's so funny.
00:57:53.650 -->
00:57:56.804I love that I can't express to you how fucking cool you are.
00:57:56.804 -->
00:57:59.510It's so cool to know you also like legit, like that you were.
00:57:59.510 -->
00:58:14.836Like it would have bummed me out if you were like I like like jeff dunn is my favorite cop like I'd be like oh okay, we'll be right back, you can love whoever you want, but to know you like like that's like legit, deep cut like they're so good, I love them so much, so they're they're awesome, nice people.
00:58:15.077 -->
00:58:15.778You met them.
00:58:15.778 -->
00:58:18.447Oh yeah, so I know like on that set, but I didn't know if you got.
00:58:18.467 -->
00:58:21.103Sometimes it's tough to like I didn't know, you never know what.
00:58:21.103 -->
00:58:33.527Because also, even michael showalter that day, like people have relationships and you'll meet people that you're like, even if I'll tell someone that they weren't rude and they'll be like sounds like they were rude and I go, yeah, but they're an actor and they were at a comedy club and they were just doing their thing.
00:58:33.548 -->
00:58:39.322They didn't say get fucked right or anything like that, sure you might have a day or whatever like that, or you know misinterpret something.
00:58:39.322 -->
00:58:40.726No, because I was able to work with these guys.
00:58:40.726 -->
00:58:45.389Um, so you hang out all day with them and they're awesome dudes and they hire other awesome people.
00:58:45.389 -->
00:58:53.210So all these people like kristen wigg shows up and paul rudd is there and chris pine shows up to do a thing, jason yeah, I know there, yeah, I know right.
00:58:53.231 -->
00:58:55.114Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude yeah, kansas City.
00:58:55.134 -->
00:58:59.286I was giving him shit for it, because he's a Royals fan, which is great, and they're all nice people.
00:58:59.427 -->
00:59:01.344Our dad moved away, the fucking Rams moved to.
00:59:01.405 -->
00:59:01.706LA.
00:59:01.706 -->
00:59:18.061Yeah, my son was like we got a team Dad, and I was like sort of you didn't care.
00:59:18.061 -->
00:59:35.054So like this idea that you're going to be a cool person and meet other cool people and whether it's going to give you anything back is not necessarily the focus that you want to have, because you don't know where it's going to come back to you and also you don't want to look back on your life and be like I was taking advantage of every opportunity I had, as opposed to like I was getting the most out of every opportunity that I had.
00:59:35.054 -->
00:59:39.525And all these people like Molly Shannon and they're all just like cool people.
00:59:39.887 -->
00:59:40.528I thought of her today.
00:59:40.528 -->
00:59:43.829She's like if I had like a female comic, that like, and there's so many.
00:59:43.829 -->
00:59:53.811But like since I was a kid dude I remember going to theaters to see Superstar Like she's oh wonderful woman that you just her yeah, we just hung out because you're sitting on set all day.
00:59:54.010 -->
00:59:58.139Elizabeth banks was there like this huge iconic, like female director and everything like that.
00:59:58.139 -->
00:59:59.202She's cool as hell.
00:59:59.302 -->
01:00:08.847Yeah, because those are the people that other people want around and they want and you also trust your money with, because you also know even though they're good with money, they're not gonna get go fuck off with it.
01:00:08.847 -->
01:00:10.652Yeah, they're gonna really do something they give them.
01:00:10.652 -->
01:00:13.385They give them stuff to make and they make more into to delegate it to good people too.
01:00:13.405 -->
01:00:16.733Yeah, and that's who they hire, that's so good to hear dude they're all great people.
01:00:16.733 -->
01:00:20.630If you ever watch any what Hot American Summer, every single person in there is an awesome person.
01:00:20.630 -->
01:00:31.847That means a lot that you know that and can say that and it wasn't like they were nice way to meet and greet, like I hung out with them for 12 hours, five, six days in a row, and they're all hilarious.
01:00:31.947 -->
01:00:32.507Yes, michael.
01:00:32.547 -->
01:00:34.289Ian Black is the funniest dude.
01:00:34.289 -->
01:00:35.710Yes, you can't even keep up with him.
01:00:35.791 -->
01:00:37.333Bro, have you ever seen that clip?
01:00:37.333 -->
01:00:41.675And I know, because that's how you know when two people really like stuff is we're just like showing Pokemon cards.
01:00:41.695 -->
01:00:43.077Have you ever seen this, have you?
01:00:43.137 -->
01:01:06.371ever seen this no-transcript and it's just like.
01:01:06.371 -->
01:01:15.737But there's certain guys like that and I grew up that too, because even though I'm a stand-up, I love classic stand-up but I've always liked and this is what we're alti hard work.
01:01:15.737 -->
01:01:31.572Stand-up is like some of my favorite shit stuff that you see that is so off the wall or, at the time, original, but you know that, like michael lean black is like works hard like he's like absolutely no like, because I have guys that'll be like I have an idea, I have an idea for a sketch and I'm like make it.
01:01:31.760 -->
01:01:33.847And they're like, yeah, but I'm gonna wait till I get the opportunity.
01:01:33.847 -->
01:01:34.789I'm like, how will you?
01:01:34.789 -->
01:01:37.577Yeah how we I mean, that is the opportunity.
01:01:37.577 -->
01:01:42.251Me and my sketch group have flown to new york and la where we've done stuff and we're still like how do we do?
01:01:42.251 -->
01:01:45.452Like you have to make more stuff yeah, but that's crazy.
01:01:45.472 -->
01:01:52.007These guys were doing web series before, like web series, like before youtube was around, they got the idea that you could post your own stuff on that.
01:01:52.007 -->
01:02:01.068That's what Stella was and then it didn't have to be 30 minutes, it didn't have to fit into a show, like they could have something that was like nine minutes or two minutes or three minutes and it could be way out there because they wanted.
01:02:01.068 -->
01:02:11.605But they, you know, obviously they had already done the state, but I think when they were doing that too, like they couldn't believe that MTV was going to let them do what they wanted to do, are all awesome and that was.
01:02:11.644 -->
01:02:20.085You know, I've been very, very fortunate to be around great people and it just reminded me that you don't have to be an asshole no, you know, you really don't really get you anywhere and, like I said, it's not a cutthroat business.
01:02:20.085 -->
01:02:29.304It's not a cutthroat business and, like I, we were talking outside, like when I met dane cook in la, who was like he wasn't the first comic I heard.
01:02:29.304 -->
01:02:30.606He was the guy that when I heard it.
01:02:30.626 -->
01:02:34.431I'm like that's what I'm doing, great bro when I was a kid the fuck it dude.
01:02:34.431 -->
01:02:35.632I remember hearing his jokes.
01:02:35.652 -->
01:03:07.922Didn't even know what he looked like and just listen, because I was drunk at missouri state, nice, with my dad like my classic story and I got to tell him this my cousin was flunked so he had to go to summer college, didn't even know they did that and we're like at missouri state in strawberry fields that song still holds relevance and I'm there and I'm like underage drinking and I think the statute of limitations are up, but I was underage drinking and I started getting so drunk that they're like hey, you should probably stop and also like, sit over here and I was like hey, can I listen to like led zeppelin or blink 182, because I was like trying to be cool I was like what do you?
01:03:07.981 -->
01:03:09.103which one's cool to you guys.
01:03:09.103 -->
01:03:18.478And I was young and they put on these headphones and I heard like oh, yeah, like heard, like the fucking, the kool-aid bit from like back in the day and I was like transported.
01:03:18.478 -->
01:03:20.681And then I also walked a college girl home that night.
01:03:20.681 -->
01:03:25.063We did not like that cool, but I did just like walk her home and she was like it was very nice that you were being sweet.
01:03:25.063 -->
01:03:29.402I was like, yeah, no problem, fucking 13 year old tubby stomach like we were all swimming or whatever.
01:03:29.443 -->
01:03:30.945My dad's like where are you?
01:03:30.945 -->
01:03:37.224And I'm like, well, I shouldn't be here so also like let's remember yeah yeah, but dude, it was that meeting him.
01:03:37.224 -->
01:03:41.222I got to like tell him that story and he was like, oh, dude, he goes, you know it's.
01:03:41.222 -->
01:03:43.509And he was like I kind of felt the same way when I met steve martin.
01:03:43.528 -->
01:03:46.365There's these stories and I was just exactly goes from one to the other.
01:03:46.385 -->
01:04:03.391You go from one to the other and I believe in that and that's why I do take all these opportunities and always try to say yes and be as kind as you can, because like we're all like we're kind of growing and I'm not trying to get too like spiritual, but it's like we do all like go through this shit together, yeah, and like stuff inspires other art, art inspires other stuff.
01:04:03.391 -->
01:04:10.804So like you always gotta like try stuff and it's cool to know that, like everyone you've worked with is great and that we both like it seems like when we're, I'm like, hey, how's your horizon?
01:04:10.804 -->
01:04:11.365Look where you've worked.
01:04:11.365 -->
01:04:12.067You're like beautiful.
01:04:12.106 -->
01:04:14.271I'm like mine's good too, and everyone's like man.
01:04:14.271 -->
01:04:15.793It's a cutthroat business you're like.
01:04:15.793 -->
01:04:16.813Which one are you talking about?
01:04:16.813 -->
01:04:23.702I don't know it hasn't been my experience either stuff happens and it hurts, but it's always like, not as personal as you think, it is like I don't.
01:04:23.702 -->
01:04:28.621I just never came around people that were trying to take you down yeah, and you don't seem the business itself.
01:04:28.621 -->
01:04:30.945Yeah, I mean I definitely like have a tenacious side.
01:04:30.945 -->
01:04:31.706I have a jealous side.
01:04:31.706 -->
01:04:33.409We all do I have a competitive side.
01:04:33.429 -->
01:04:33.829You know what I mean.
01:04:33.829 -->
01:04:36.833Like I, I get upset if somebody else gets something that I really, really wanted.
01:04:36.833 -->
01:04:40.465But when I was younger it affected me a lot more and I kind of had to resolve that.
01:04:40.465 -->
01:04:48.320And, like you said I it wasn't that I didn't get it because he got it, and I'm not trying to beat my fellow actor yes, as much as there's enough for us all to.
01:04:48.320 -->
01:04:49.503Yeah, there's enough for everybody.
01:04:49.884 -->
01:04:58.985And what I can actually do now is like and this is easier for me in this experience, but you know, when they do the Missouri Lottery commercial, I told someone I go for an actor.
01:04:58.985 -->
01:04:59.889That's my lottery.
01:04:59.889 -->
01:05:06.646And so I auditioned twice and this last time I actually felt good and it wasn't even like a Missouri commercial.
01:05:06.646 -->
01:05:11.565It was the one where you're like, oh no, it wasn't the Missouri Lottery, it was the Welcome to Missouri.
01:05:11.706 -->
01:05:13.289It was like a new whatever, and I was the welcome to missouri.
01:05:13.289 -->
01:05:17.351It was like I knew, whatever, and I auditioned and I remember I was like man, it would be so cool to be like.
01:05:17.532 -->
01:05:25.637That's how, missouri, I am, and I didn't get it and I saw the girl that did and as soon as I saw it I was like that's.
01:05:25.637 -->
01:05:28.222There are times where I was like they picked the right person.
01:05:28.222 -->
01:05:32.800Yeah, that is the how she did it, how good she did it for me, especially the acting side.
01:05:32.800 -->
01:05:35.005I'm not like whatever, I'm like who's the most missouri person?
01:05:35.065 -->
01:05:43.909it should be a guy like kevin missouri and she did it and afterwards I told her on set one time I go hey, I was also up for like that role she goes.
01:05:43.909 -->
01:05:45.000I know a lot of people and I go.
01:05:45.000 -->
01:06:01.164No, no, I wanted to tell you that, to know that like it went to the right person and she you could tell she was like thank you, because I'm sure some people are like I wanted that too and I don't do that, because I'm like when I get some, I did my special and I a comic who I've done forever, we've known each other for over 10 years was like this is what they did.
01:06:01.184 -->
01:06:03.074They're like hey, it's cool you're doing that special.
01:06:03.074 -->
01:06:05.905I've actually been thinking about doing one and I was like man.
01:06:05.905 -->
01:06:07.510It kind of breaks my heart that like can I get?
01:06:07.530 -->
01:06:23.001can you have a moment like you know what I mean can you do whatever, but there's just these times that you realize that like just being cool seeing where like stuff can take you and all that stuff is very beautiful, but I'm glad you have that, but is there anything that like we haven't talked about, that you are like something you've worked on or experienced anything like?
01:06:23.001 -->
01:06:26.961It's such a weird question, but I would hate to have gotten off this being like we didn't talk about something.
01:06:26.981 -->
01:06:31.242You want to, because again, this means so much that, you know, I think we covered everything and some good stuff there too.
01:06:31.242 -->
01:06:32.103I feel content, content.
01:06:32.103 -->
01:06:33.786I feel too, I actually I've never done this.
01:06:33.786 -->
01:06:34.427Can we do something?
01:06:34.427 -->
01:06:36.751Yeah, of course, I mean, I don't know what it is, but I just agreed to it.
01:06:36.751 -->
01:06:39.001Yeah, on camera, okay.
01:06:39.021 -->
01:06:58.612So I don't even know how this will go, because I've never done this and I've never taught acting, so I don't know if this is anything, but I kind I want to do like, maybe like a scene where we're like, maybe like in, like kind of like a horror film or something like that.
01:06:58.672 -->
01:06:58.952Nice.
01:06:59.012 -->
01:07:00.393Just a little bit.
01:07:00.393 -->
01:07:02.795Maybe it's like a horror film, but it's like before, like the guy.
01:07:02.795 -->
01:07:10.565We're not scared, we're about to be, but we're like everything's cool Right.
01:07:10.585 -->
01:07:13.349Because we noticed that like maybe there's like was okay, all right, is that cool anything?
01:07:13.369 -->
01:07:13.829okay, yeah, we got it.
01:07:13.829 -->
01:07:16.313Yeah, oh man.
01:07:16.313 -->
01:07:21.646Ban on bantham, ban on banthams go.
01:07:21.666 -->
01:07:23.610Yeah, you played awesome dude dude.
01:07:23.610 -->
01:07:24.351Thanks you too, bro.
01:07:24.351 -->
01:07:25.820I'm glad you got some time in there dude.
01:07:25.840 -->
01:07:27.324Thanks man, you too, I mean we.
01:07:27.324 -->
01:07:34.487We do it together, bro fucking yeah, fly high, brother forever um, yeah, I thought I heard that too.
01:07:34.527 -->
01:07:39.168Yeah, okay, good I thought I was going crazy, that was like wow that sounded like nails on a fucking.
01:07:39.190 -->
01:07:42.079Yeah, like I'm like, do we blow a tire or whatever.
01:07:42.563 -->
01:07:44.699It's like you know that, yeah, chill, yeah, what was that?
01:07:44.699 -->
01:07:44.820But?
01:07:46.963 -->
01:07:53.884it did it did sound like it was a hundred percent, came from under your chair, though for sure, right, I don't feel like there's anything down there.
01:07:53.884 -->
01:07:55.608Well, there's nothing under my chair, would you?
01:07:55.907 -->
01:07:56.489yeah, would you?
01:07:56.489 -->
01:08:00.284Oh my god, oh my god, bob, oh my god, what my fucking?
01:08:00.284 -->
01:08:00.867What is it?
01:08:00.867 -->
01:08:01.510My hand is stuck.
01:08:01.510 -->
01:08:02.572What is?
01:08:02.634 -->
01:08:02.894it.
01:08:02.894 -->
01:08:03.516Get it out.
01:08:03.516 -->
01:08:15.634Get it, if there's something out there might, oh my god.
01:08:15.634 -->
01:08:17.235And scene everybody.
01:08:17.235 -->
01:08:20.470It is Jeepers, creepers 2, which scared the shit out of me as a kid.
01:08:20.470 -->
01:08:21.520Dude.
01:08:21.520 -->
01:08:24.470You did that fucking absolutely perfectly.
01:08:24.470 -->
01:08:25.807I love you so much.
01:08:25.840 -->
01:08:27.393All of a sudden I was like wait, there really is something under there.
01:08:27.393 -->
01:08:31.016When you kept reaching, I was like when I put it under there, it's perfectly flat.
01:08:31.016 -->
01:08:34.346He's just going to be like there might be spiders under here.
01:08:34.728 -->
01:08:36.351Well done Thank you buddy.
01:08:36.351 -->
01:08:38.064Hey, that's Discombobulated.
01:08:38.064 -->
01:08:38.945That's the podcast.
01:08:38.945 -->
01:08:41.551Eric Nenninger, you have to check out everything he's done.
01:08:41.551 -->
01:08:46.689I can't wait to rewatch and I've got to finish Generation Kill, but I'm going to rewatch Wet American Summer.
01:08:46.689 -->
01:08:47.832You're fucking awesome.
01:08:47.832 -->
01:08:48.661Thanks for being cool.
