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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, D-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. We got a, uh, full show for you every day rest of the week don't we we do and we'll be with you on uh thursday from harmonic brewing and thrive city for the dubs and the miami.
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Speaker 3: Heat yeah what's thursday night game we're not taking that but it's uh oh jags ravens.
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Speaker 2: Who's playing iqb for the ravens they're third string quarterback yeah you want to try to say that name.
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Speaker 4: Uh i believe it's.
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Speaker 2: Everybody should go look at it. I don't even know how to pronounce it. Fagano? Yeah, something like that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 2: All right, boy.
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Speaker 4: I'm sticking to that one.
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Speaker 2: Stick with that one. He started this weekend on Thursday for the Baltimore Ravens. Who are they playing? The Jags?
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Speaker 4: Playing the Jags. Jags might be.
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Speaker 2: Jags are going to get in the Baltimore ass, I think.
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Speaker 4: I think so. They might be the second best team in the AFC.
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Speaker 2: And they're seemingly a complete team.
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Speaker 4: I mean, they might even be better than Buffalo.
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Speaker 2: I think they are. I think they're more complete than Buffalo.
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Speaker 4: They can run the football. They can play defense. They get the crap out of the Colts.
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Speaker 2: And I have a brand of football. That's going to be really tough. If this maintains, they're going to be really tough in January because they play defense. They get after the quarterback. They know how to score and they don't have to score all that much. And they run the football effectively too.
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Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about that as a place for Juwan Jennings, where if you could do like a deal where Brian Thomas jr. Goes to Minnesota and then Juwan Jennings, you throw him maybe like a third round pick. But it sounds like Juwanis wants to stay in Minnesota.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, the Jags, pretty damn good.
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Speaker 2: Why don't we get into it here? Each week we do it because they provide some of the best sound there is across the sports landscape. When NFL and college coaches talk, we listen in a segment we like to call Coach Speak.
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Speaker 5: When NFL coaches speak. We listen.
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Speaker 6: And I just think it's difficult to box without sparring.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't get free coffee.
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Speaker 5: It's football season.
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Speaker 7: Most players play football in football season.
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Speaker 5: This is Coach Speak on the Sports Leader.
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Speaker 2: Coach Speak for Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. And it starts with Aaron Glenn, New York Jets head coach. Yikes. For now. Aaron Glenn, he's talking about, this is after the game.
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Speaker 4: Yes, losing to the Raiders.
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Speaker 2: Lost to the Raiders. Jets wanted to take two shots at the end zone.
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Speaker 4: They were down 38-31 with about a minute left.
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Speaker 3: And the Raiders were a little gutsy with a 53-yard field goal to ice the game. So Geno Smith was taking deep shots against his former team.
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Speaker 2: So here you go. Here's Aaron Glenn. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 8: And we were trying to go to the end zone actually twice. I think we had the ball somewhere at the 30 in that aspect. The thing is, if you would have threw that ball inbounds, we would have had a chance to actually try to get up there and try to spike it and throw another one. But we want to make sure that we got two shots at it and hopefully that they were thinking that we were going to try to stay in balance and we get a chance to get them on a cheap one right there and then hopefully have another chance to do another shot at the end zone.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 3: Look, Aaron Glenn, really good defensive coordinator back in the day with the Detroit Lions.
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Speaker 4: He's just not a head coach.
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Speaker 2: Back in the day, like two years ago.
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Speaker 4: I know, but he had a great game plan.
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Speaker 3: He threw the kitchen sink at Sam Darnold and he was terrible in that Week 18 game that decided... the top seed in the NFC playoffs. So I think it's a matter of time. I think they're not going to trade Garrett Wilson. It sounds like they might trade Brees Hall though, which is very interesting here, but yeah, the jets are just a dumpster fire.
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Speaker 4: They add talent.
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Speaker 3: Gino's actually playing pretty well. They put up 33, 33 points in this game, but the Raiders defense is just brutal. So I'm making sure that makes the jets look good. So yeah, I think it's only a matter of time before Aaron Glenn is fired. And you might see former Stanford head coach, Frank Reich be the interim head coach the rest of the way?
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Speaker 2: I think I signed a note yesterday. The Jets have three first-round picks in the upcoming draft. If the draft started today, it doesn't. It never does. But if it did, they would have the third, fourth, and seventh picks or third, fourth, and tenth picks.
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Speaker 4: Damn, three picks in the top ten?
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Speaker 2: Right now, that's where they would stand, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and right now, I mean, that sounds good, but like... Who are the best quarterbacks in this draft class?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Right now, the Jets would have, yeah, they'd have four, six, and ten would be their top three. They have three first-round picks right now.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some talent if they can find a way to get, like, I don't know, I think Jeremiah Smith's going to drop to even third at this point.
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Speaker 4: I think he might be the best player in this draft class.
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Speaker 2: He's going to the Chargers?
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Speaker 4: But, um, I, you know.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine Chargers get the first-round pick and they take that? I mean, seriously, is that.
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Speaker 4: Well, you got Herbert and you got Jeremiah Smith. It's been their best wide receiver in a long time.
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Speaker 2: That'd be pretty special.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but, like, just hearing Eric Glenn.
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Speaker 3: you know, make these excuses in post game, the New York media is killing him. So I think it's only a matter of time before he gets the ax.
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Speaker 2: He's the best quarterback coming out.
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Speaker 4: That's the thing.
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Speaker 2: They're just the maker.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: They're talking about this guy from Oklahoma state.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But like all the guys that we thought were going to be, you know, really good this year, Arch Manning, he needs to stay in school.
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Speaker 4: Dante Moore got hurt. I, I don't, I mean like Darian Mensah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Darian Mensah is actually pretty good with Miami right now.
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Speaker 2: CJ Carr of Notre Dame.
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Speaker 4: CJ Carr.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: My guy Sorsby didn't play any downs, but he's, he's looking pretty good right now.
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Speaker 2: Dante Moore.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But Dante Moore got hurt. So I don't really know.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think like all these teams that wanted to wait until this draft class to get their quarterback, whether it was the Jets, the Browns or the Arizona Cardinals. Actually, I mean, the Browns and Cardinals are doing pretty well. The Jets, they'll make a change, obviously, but.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets are only going to do what the Texans did, where the Texans got C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson in the same draft. Yeah. Jets would love to end up with something like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, it sounds like Aaron Glenn might be on the outs here, whether it's in the season or at the end of the season.
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Speaker 2: Moving on here in coach speak, how about Jim Harbaugh? Dude, here's a back and forth. Noah Furtado used to cover the 49ers here. in the Bay Area for the Chronicle. He's now covering the Chargers down in L.A. He's got a back and forth because he's asking him, why won't you make changes with Mike McDaniel? Things are horrible. You're 0-7. Here's Jim Harbaugh on his back and forth with Noah Furtado.
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Speaker 11: Is Mike going to continue to call plays, Jim?
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Speaker 12: Yes. I'm not going to address anything. I'm focused on this game, and that's my focus.
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Speaker 9: What from the past seven games tells you that this can be fixed?
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Speaker 3: You keep him, the team's 0-7, the offense has played an outsized role in the struggles.
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Speaker 9: Why are you keeping him?
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Speaker 13: What is the rationale?
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Speaker 12: Our motivation is and dedication to getting it changed, to getting it fixed.
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Speaker 11: You don't want to answer the question.
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Speaker 12: I said, I'm focused on this game. I will go watch this tape. And I believe in our guys. I believe in our players, our coaches. And yeah, it's us who are the ones that the challenge is with. And we're the only ones that can fix it.
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Speaker 11: Jim, do you understand why I'm asking you about Mike and his role in.
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Speaker 2: All of this?
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Speaker 12: And why.
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Speaker 6: Like, you feel that he should stay as offensive coordinator?
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Speaker 11: Does that make sense, why I'm asking this?
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Speaker 12: You've asked it, and I think I've answered the question, so.
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Speaker 6: I've asked you about him, and you haven't talked about him.
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Speaker 11: You've just said vague.
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Speaker 12: Talk about us. It's a team. It's a team, the team, the team. It's us.
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Speaker 9: Wow.
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Speaker 4: Well done by Noah Furtado.
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Speaker 3: He's grilling him a little bit, though, but I understand that Jim Harbaugh's not really answering the question there. Um, I, I mean, Harbaugh's in a bad spot where it's like Mike McDaniel was thought of as one of the best offensive minds, one of the best in football. When they landed him, that was a big hire to help Justin Herbert. It's been a huge disappointment. Should he be fired? Should he have to, he had to have a play calling duties taken away. I mean, probably just because of the way they performed. At the same time, I understand, like, how is this not working? And, you know, they don't have a lot of great skill position guys. The offensive line's not playing great either. Joe Walt and Rashawn Slater have definitely regressed.
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Speaker 2: It's never one thing.
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Speaker 4: It's never one thing.
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Speaker 2: But he's the head of that snake. And, like, you got to, at some point... It's really bad. I mean, they're bottoms in the league in like almost every statistic.
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Speaker 4: And I can remember the last time they scored a touchdown.
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Speaker 3: They almost got a Hail Mary against the Rams, but still couldn't come up in the end zone in this game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad.
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Speaker 3: And it might be where Mike McDaniel, like we'll see what happens this off season. He'll probably be let go by the chargers. Cause this, you know, they can't tolerate this with being Owen seven with this quarterback. They're not going to trade Justin Herbert. They're probably not going to fire Jim Harbaugh, but they'll probably fire Mike McDaniel. And who knows, maybe, you know, Clay Kubiak gets a head coaching job and Mike McDaniel comes back to be offensive coordinator of the 49ers.
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Speaker 4: You never know. But I, I feel bad for Mike.
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Speaker 3: Cause like this was supposed to be the best landing spot for an offensive play caller with this quarterback. And I understand the questions by Noah, but I also understand that Jim's not going.
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Speaker 2: To answer the question.
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Speaker 9: You haven't talked about him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's dancing around the questions and Jim's getting pissed off. So, I mean, well done by Noah and also kind of well done by Jim in a way.
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Speaker 2: Fewest points in the league. They went 32nd in the league in points or 28th in the league. In total offensive yards, they're 32nd in the league in turnovers and giveaways. They have 17 giveaways. Ten interceptions is the most in the league. They're 31st in touchdowns total. They've scored five touchdowns as an offense. Is that right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to like 2006 Oakland Raiders numbers.
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Speaker 2: This is abysmal. For the players that have 32nd in points per drive, it's incredible how bad this stuff has gone for them. 26th in rushing touchdowns. Hey, 21st in yards per attempt. That's a little bit better.
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Speaker 5: I just think, dude.
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Speaker 2: 18th in rushing yards. which is kind of funny.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: They're building like a Baltimore Ravens type of offense with a lot of good blocking tight ends and running the football.
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Speaker 4: And that's what Mike McDaniel wants to do.
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Speaker 3: But also like why they scored in Miami is because they had speedsters on the outside with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. So, I mean, there's no, I'm like, well, Adam McConkie is probably the best wide receiver.
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Speaker 4: Quinn and Johnson. I'm not a fan of, i don't know what to make of it honestly moving on.
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Speaker 2: Here in the uh the sound soiree kevin o'connell want to go to him sure head coach of the minnesota vikings uh kevin o'connell's talking about kyler murray getting more comfortable in that offense despite the loss last.
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Speaker 10: Week yeah we're you know it's it's it's going back through it and any you know any of the inconsistencies really dive into the why you know uh i I don't necessarily believe it's going to be one tell-all thing. I think it's how we continue to put together the plans, where he's most comfortable in his alignment, and then marrying up the offense from there. I think we've done a good job of that from a standpoint of the ability to gun run, gun play action, screen, movement game. We like the idea of getting him on the perimeter. We like the idea of activating him a little bit. here and there in the run game, which we saw a little bit today. But I don't necessarily think right now off the top of my head it's one particular thing, but that's what we've got to go back. And I'm very fortunate to have an extra day to go to work on that and knowing that, you know, we're just looking for consistent, you know, doesn't need to be much more than just guys doing their jobs and, you know, pitching and catching, you know, protection, I thought, For the most part, we had a good plan for 97. We had a good plan for some of their stuff. That one or two more plays could change the whole dynamic of one of those sequences that we needed to make play.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, bottom line is Kevin O'Connell knows that Kyler Murray's not playing well. And I don't know what they're going to do. They're 6-1, so they're not going to make a quarterback change. But if they had a better backup, if they held on to J.J. McCarthy, maybe things were different. maybe they do bench Kyler Murray for JJ. I don't know if you do that with a winning record. I, I came into the season and this is why I had that, that, you know, I guess bold take that JJ McCarthy would have more snaps than Kyler Murray, but maybe they pulled the trigger too quick on that trade. And maybe JJ just had a bad attitude in training camp. That's why that, Carson Wentz beat him out. But if it's where JJ McCarthy's having success with the giants, they win the division with him making that, that big time trade. You have to look at Kevin O'Connell and be like, dude, what.
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Speaker 2: Are you doing? You're supposed to be the guy.
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Speaker 3: You fell in the trap of your own quote, where it was most organizations fail their young quarterbacks. And look, I know that JJ wasn't playing well. He didn't finish the season with, I think a five and old record.
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Speaker 4: But I don't know. I'm looking at Kyler right now, and I'm like, I'm not buying that team whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: It looks way better since he's gotten to New York.
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Speaker 4: He looks more confident.
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Speaker 3: I think he feels loose where, all right, I'm not going to be the guy here, but let me put something out on tape where I can show something to the other 32 teams.
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Speaker 4: Maybe he'll be able to.
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Speaker 2: Turn around and trade him or keep him as an insurance policy for Dart going into next season.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe.
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Speaker 2: We've got to take a quick break. Adam Copeland, Derek Papa, Danny Dunne hanging out with you. We've got more coach speak. We've got some sound story. We can get into all of it next. Dirty work on a Tuesday only here on Esports Leader.
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Speaker 1: Now, back to Dirty Work. Adam Copeland and Derek Papa on KNBR 104.5 and 680 AM. The Sports Leader.
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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, T-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. 209 checks into the Golden State Lumber and Showroom text line and says, dude, why wouldn't Harbaugh be fired? He was hired to get them over the hump, and they've regressed two straight years now. The only reason I think he wouldn't be fired is because their owner is super cheap.
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Speaker 4: Yep. The Spanoases are really cheap.
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Speaker 2: Like notoriously cheap.
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Speaker 4: And they spent a pretty penny to get Jim Harbaugh.
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Speaker 2: It's like Jerry and firing guys. Jerry's like, nah, contract will run out and then you'll go.
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Speaker 4: Well, did you hear him today? He was like, head coaches don't matter.
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Speaker 3: So, like, as long as Braun Schoenheimer's under contract, he's going to be my head coach. And it's like, don't you see? Like, you have a talented team, but they suck. They're not properly coached. That's the case in the NFC East where you might see three different, I mean, you might see the only team that pertains to their head coach is probably the New York Giants. I think Dan Quinn's out probably. I think Nick Sirianni. I know it's, you know, a lot of circumstances with Jalen Hurts getting, you know, his illness with the blood clot and everything. But Brian Schottenheimer, he probably should be let go. But Jerry Jones, he sounds like, nope. If I'm paying for him to be my head coach, it's going to be where he leaves because it's an expiring contract.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the, why don't we do more coach speak here?
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Speaker 9: Sure.
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Speaker 2: Should we just call it the San Suarez or just go with the coaches here?
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Speaker 4: We'll transition to sound so our way when it's appropriate.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: It's not appropriate yet. Why don't we, uh, Danny, why don't you open up coach speak again? Because when they talk, we listen.
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Speaker 5: When NFL coaches speak, we listen.
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Speaker 6: I just think it's difficult to box without sparring.
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Speaker 5: I couldn't get free coffee. It's football season.
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Speaker 3: Most players play football in football season.
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Speaker 5: This is coach speak on the sports leader.
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Speaker 2: I just got a shout out this texture here. Nine to five chicken. It says you got to try the barbecue. Try tip sandwich. I believe from the place in San Leandro called Galvin's. Dude, Galvin's Market in San Leandro on the corner of Estadio and MacArthur Boulevard. I grew up on Estadio Avenue right there.
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Speaker 5: Oh, nice.
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Speaker 2: I worked at Sabino's Coffee next door to Joe and Judy Galvin at the great Galvin's Market, one of the great butcher shops that's been open for a long time.
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Speaker 4: Very cool.
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Speaker 2: You are absolutely right, 95. One of my favorite spots. Can't believe I didn't think to go Galvin's Market. Also, just shout out the San Leandro Produce Market across the street in Estadio Plaza there. Good sandwiches there at that produce market. They're one of those produce markets where You get 10 sandwiches, you get a little stamp card.
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Speaker 9: Oh, nice.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you're a sandwich place with a stamp card, bro, God bless you. I mean, nothing makes me feel happier than getting a burrito stamp card or a sandwich stamp card. What happened to the stamp card?
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Speaker 4: I mean, Elaine ruined it for all of us. Free submarine.
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Speaker 2: Elaine ruined it, dude. She did. She did. 808-KMBR is the number to call in Texas. Get back into Coach B here. Why don't we go to Mike McDonald? Let's do it. Head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. They're asking him about the running back situation going into last night's game.
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Speaker 4: So before the game, obviously, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go.
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Speaker 11: Well, we have a plan for Zach. And with JD, I think if we were to make a move, I think that would happen on Monday, to my knowledge. So we'll see if that's what we do. We've got some things going on roster-wise that we're working through right now, but we have a plan for Zach, and we'll go from there. Just to clarify, so Jadarian doesn't have an injury designation, so if he's not activated, it's not injury-related on Monday.
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Speaker 4: Would there be some other reason?
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Speaker 11: Yeah, we're just going to let the transaction speak for itself on that one.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of people saw that and were like, is he saying that they might trade Darian Price? And Jonathan Taylor's been rumored with the Seattle Seahawks.
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Speaker 4: I think he just misspoke.
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Speaker 3: I think it was where the transaction is him being activated for the game. Some people were like, are they talking about a move as in like training for a running back? That was never the case. Obviously, both those guys played last night. The Seahawks have been linked to Jonathan Taylor, but I'd be very surprised if they move one of those running backs. They just traded for Quinn and Nelson. They want to improve the running game with those two guys. Zach Charbonnet is coming off a torn ACL. Jadarian Price was taken in the first round. I would be very surprised if the Seattle Seahawks traded for Jonathan Taylor.
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Speaker 2: I would too. That's not something I anticipate happening. Moving on here in coach speak, let's go to Mike Tomlin here. Former head coach. Former head coach, Mike Tomlin. This is on Thursday, excuse me, on Sunday.
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Speaker 9: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Sunday night football. And he's talking about what he saw from the Cowboys earlier in the day and their loss to the Arizona Cardinals.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's giving a little criticism to the Cowboys and, I mean, bad loss to the Arizona Cardinals. So Mike Tomlin gives Brian Schottenheimer and the Cowboys coaching staff some words of advice.
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Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 6: I saw a bunch of blinkers. And what I mean by that, I say if you're a blinker, cut your eyelids off. What I mean is you got to relish the thick moments. You got to want to make the play as an individual and as a unit within a team. And watching the end of that game, I didn't see individuals or particular units that wanted to grab the bull by the horns and win the game. Certainly their defense, we can spend a lot of time talking about that two-minute drive and things of that nature, but their offense... Had a short field when they had an unsuccessful onside kick at the end of regulation. And then they went three out in overtime. And so I see a team that doesn't have anybody that wants to be the unit to secure victory. They're blinkers. They got to cut their eyelids off.
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Speaker 4: Cut me, Mitch.
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Speaker 2: You're blinkers. Cut off your eyelids.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I like the metaphor, like cutting your eyelids off.
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Speaker 4: Good Lord.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's a little different than like a nuclear illusion. Bull Durham, she's telling him to breathe through his eyelids.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: He's got to breathe through eyelids. Like the lizards on the Galapagos Islands.
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Speaker 3: I can see Tom giving a motivational speech to this Pittsburgh Steelers back in the day.
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Speaker 4: It's like, cut your eyelids off, gentlemen. They're like, what the hell are you talking about, coach?
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Speaker 2: Coach, what are you talking about? 510 checks in. Oh, it's Van. He says, dude, Galvin's and Sailander are great for sandwiches. That's a whole great strip there. on MacArthur in San Leandro. Good butcher and meat selection. Sabino's Coffee. Did I work there for a couple years?
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Speaker 9: There you go.
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Speaker 2: Sabino's Coffee, dude, right there in San Leandro. And then a Main Street Bagels, also phenomenal bagels. I love you, good bagel. Great spot. I love shining a light on San Leandro, anywhere I grew up. Uh, phenomenal and great places to hang and eat. Uh, moving on here, Bill Belichick. You guys hear this? Bill Belichick is single. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And ready to mingle.
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Speaker 2: Settle down, Dan. Uh, Bill Belichick single now. And, uh, he was at student. Somebody's shaking his head. Somebody straight up asked him about his relationship with Jordan Hudson.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: After they had a close game against, um, who they play Miami on.
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Speaker 2: Miami, just can't invite me. Number one team in the nation, right?
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: They lost 38 to 35. So pretty good. Uh, pretty, pretty good fight by, uh, the fighting Bill Belichick, but, uh, Yeah, rumors that him and Jordan Hudson have split. They said apparently they split over a year ago. They remain close business partners and friends. Here's Bill Belichick.
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Speaker 12: There was some national reporting over the weekend about your relationship status with Jordan Hudson.
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Speaker 4: I wonder if you had any comment on that and what it might mean.
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Speaker 2: For you.
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Speaker 9: Do you prefer tabloid?
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Bill.
00:20:00
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:20:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep my personal comments and relationships to myself. That's all right with you.
00:20:07
Speaker 3: I don't blame him for that one. He asked the reporter, are you in the tabloids now? Like fair, I guess, I don't know if a fair question. I don't really know. Like that's some TMZ crap. And I get why it was asked, but also like, It's a football press conference.
00:20:20
Speaker 4: Like, that's a little ridiculous to me.
00:20:21
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what the point of that would have been, but I'm glad somebody asked. Like, do I think you should have asked? No, but if he does, I'll listen. You know what I mean? Like, that's how it goes.
00:20:35
Speaker 3: I mean, like, when you're in that situation, you probably should ask, but also, like, that also gives, like, an eye roll to a lot of people in that room where it's like, you're really asking about this girl right now? And I understand, like, she was part of his life for a long time, but it's not... any importance to the football team.
00:20:49
Speaker 2: He's like, we're on to some new young men.
00:20:51
Speaker 3: Apparently, there was a report that his family and friends were like, about time, Bill.
00:20:57
Speaker 4: This was kind of crazy.
00:20:58
Speaker 2: He's like, we're on to blondes. I don't know what he would say. And that is Coach Speak for Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. All right, we won't take a break. We'll just keep it right here. Some of the best sounds from across the sports world you might have missed with the Dirty Work Sound Soiree. That was appropriate.
00:21:15
Speaker 4: No, I've whipped up.
00:21:17
Speaker 13: This nasty little soiree.
00:21:19
Speaker 5: The best sounds you might have missed.
00:21:22
Speaker 2: Soiree, what? Soiree, honey, I think that means party. All right, your Sound Soiree for Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. And it starts, can we skip Perkins? I don't need to hear Perkins on Draymond. Do you want to hear that?
00:21:37
Speaker 4: Just to show how much of an idiot he is.
00:21:38
Speaker 2: We don't need to do that. We know how much of an idiot Perkins is. All right, all right, fine. Let me just explain to you guys this. Kendrick Perkins said something about Draymond that didn't really even make sense because the Warriors won the game. There you go.
00:21:49
Speaker 4: Figured it all out.
00:21:50
Speaker 2: Moving on here in the sound soiree, this is what I do want to get to. Stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin.
00:21:56
Speaker 4: Tim's guy.
00:21:57
Speaker 2: Tim Webb's boy. Oh, yeah. Friend of the program, dude.
00:21:59
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: He's like dapping up Tim Webb, dude, at Super Bowl.
00:22:02
Speaker 4: This guy knows what I'm talking about.
00:22:03
Speaker 2: He knows about the White House.
00:22:05
Speaker 4: I said, I got my White House, and you got your White House, and.
00:22:08
Speaker 2: Then you got to come to mine. They just started laughing and dapping up Tim. I was like, what the hell is he talking about?
00:22:12
Speaker 3: Tim knew.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I didn't know Tim was at the barbecues like that. The cookouts. Here's Stephen A.
00:22:17
Speaker 1: Smith.
00:22:19
Speaker 2: With Michael Irvin, which is a funny combination. And they're talking about the Cowboys head coaching situation.
00:22:24
Speaker 7: Your record says you ain't even mediocre.
00:22:26
Speaker 6: You ain't even average. You four games under.
00:22:28
Speaker 7: 500, and you calling yourself great. That's the damn problem. That's why you need somebody like Rex Ryan coming in there, kick somebody's ass, get somebody out up there.
00:22:38
Speaker 2: Give them an attitude.
00:22:40
Speaker 7: That's what you need. Just like you have Mike Dicker with Buddy Ryan, you need somebody like Rex Ryan. If I'm Jerry Jones, I call ESPN right now. Trying to pluck Rex Ryan from this job to get him on the sideline this damn weekend. I promise you, with four days preparation, that man will do a better job than what the hell we've seen the Dallas Cowboys doing all season long.
00:23:05
Speaker 2: I'd bet my check on it. And needless to say. That's an easy bet, Steve. I don't like. Like you think that's something big. Anybody will bet they check on it because anybody. Would you? I'm not sure about you. Anybody, man.
00:23:19
Speaker 7: That's just right now. Tomorrow you'll probably be making an apology for them.
00:23:23
Speaker 9: There is no worse than you can be. There is no worse that you can be than they are right now. There is no such thing as lower than this or worse than this or not as good as this. They are the worst. So anybody, anybody, my dad, mom can coach them better.
00:23:45
Speaker 3: If you see the video, Shay Cornette, who hosts First Take, she cringes, being like, oh my God, he actually just said that right now?
00:23:52
Speaker 2: Dude, also, he's like, you can't be worse than this. I was like, you're three and five. You can't be the Chargers.
00:23:57
Speaker 4: And they're still probably going to win the division.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: Statistically, they're way worse ways to be than this.
00:24:02
Speaker 4: Doesn't Stephen A hate the Cowboys? He's getting all worked up, and now he's acting like- I'd bet my check on it. And needless to say, it's a hell of a check. Let me tell you.
00:24:10
Speaker 2: He ain't betting ass.
00:24:12
Speaker 3: And also, you know what? I respect Rex Ryan, but he's been out of the game for 10 years now. Like, let's not act like he'll be, you know, the guy that turns around the Dallas Cowboys defense. If they called him up today, he left television and stopped calling out Ashton Gentry and then make something of the Dallas Cowboys defense.
00:24:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, him and Jerry would be such a funny combo.
00:24:32
Speaker 4: Can you imagine that?
00:24:33
Speaker 3: Like Rex Ryan screaming at a Jerry Jones.
00:24:35
Speaker 2: There's no way that's happening.
00:24:36
Speaker 4: No. Let's go eat a damn snack right now, Jerry.
00:24:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine that's happening. Although it wouldn't be as weird or as bad of a hire as when Jeff Saturday was grabbed by the Colts.
00:24:47
Speaker 4: Well, that was ridiculous.
00:24:48
Speaker 2: That was weird because at least Rex Ryan's a coach.
00:24:50
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:24:50
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:24:51
Speaker 4: But he's been out of the game for so long.
00:24:53
Speaker 2: Can you imagine him trying to run his defenses out there?
00:24:55
Speaker 4: No, because you know what?
00:24:56
Speaker 2: Where's his brother? Rob's somewhere in college right now.
00:24:59
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: Rob's at a big university.
00:25:00
Speaker 4: The bigger Lebowski?
00:25:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like him.
00:25:02
Speaker 4: He does. Nice head of lettuce there.
00:25:05
Speaker 3: Rex Ryan, like, dude, he was good with the Jets. Like, it was all, you know, like, it's very old school coaching, honestly. Like, you need leader of men guys. But, like, Mike Vrabel's different than that, where he's just not, like, some guy that's barking orders all the time or screaming at dudes. There's a certain mentality to play for the New England Patriots, but he's so smart with his coaching and his game planning and his execution in the late stages of a game. That way he handled himself against the Chicago Bears on Thursday Night Football with the way he was telling his defensive lineman, jump offside so I don't have to burn a timeout. Rex Ryan, I'm sorry, but he's not helping any defense right now.
00:25:40
Speaker 2: No, no, that's not the hire. But it would be great to see Jerry make a mistake like that. Not that this was the perfect hire anyway. Yeah, they're cheaper in Dallas. He's not going to pay a coach. Why don't we take a break? We have time on the other side. We'll try to get to one or two more. It's starting to work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, D-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. Larry Kruger coming up at the top of the hour with a little Niners nightly. Niners and Diners nightly. As we're back into the football schedule, the Niners from here on out, all the way to the end of the season, every Sunday except for that Thursday night, I believe, against the Chargers, right?
00:26:12
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:26:12
Speaker 2: In Los Angeles. That's their only other weeknight game. This season, we'll take a quick break. When we come on back, we'll put the show to bed, get you ready for Niners Nightly Dirty Work Tuesday on the Sports Leader.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: Time for Dirty Work to put the show to bed.
00:26:25
Speaker 5: Are you crazy?
00:26:26
Speaker 4: I don't need a bed.
00:26:28
Speaker 5: On the Sports Leader.
00:26:30
Speaker 2: Now you will go to sleep, or I will put you to sleep. You know, meat sandwich, I guess, if you want to call it. Yeah, Ramon called it earlier. Wanted to get in on the burger and sandwich discussion and debate. And he said, he makes a patty melt. And I said, do you call that a burger or a sandwich? He's like, yeah, I call it a meat sandwich. Which, you know, immediately makes me think Harold and Kumar. A blank meat sandwich. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dirty work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, D-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. Getting ready to put the show to bed. Been a fun show today, dude.
00:27:09
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:27:10
Speaker 2: The sandwich debate of the day. And really, it's National Sandwich Day. Like, really, we don't get into these, like, National Day things all that much. Right. I, you know, nobody knows where they come from. We always just joke with Tom about them periodically.
00:27:20
Speaker 9: Right.
00:27:20
Speaker 2: You know, National Taco Day, Tim and I were like, yeah, let's get Taco Bell. Went out. That was kind of fun. Just to make it a thing. Gotta love Moss. Make it a thing. An excuse to go do something or eat something that you want. Right on. Which, I don't know why I need one. You can just do it anyway.
00:27:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
00:27:31
Speaker 2: Had a sandwich today and ordered a sandwich of panini before I even found out from you that it was National Sandwich Day.
00:27:37
Speaker 3: Well, Alon was talking about it on his show, and it sparked a total debate on today's show. So you are in the camp that a burger is a sandwich.
00:27:46
Speaker 2: I'm in the camp that, like, a sandwich is, yes, like a deli sandwich. Like, there are many types of sandwiches, and I think that a burger is a type of sandwich that falls under the umbrella of a sandwich. The same as I said, denim jeans and slacks are both pants. They fall under that category, but they're two different types of pants.
00:28:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that a burger— And you would just call jeans jeans, but they're still pants.
00:28:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what? Okay, we're comparing pants to burgers right now. This is ridiculous. Burgers are burgers. Hot dogs are hot dogs. Sandwiches are sandwiches. And Dan is with you on this.
00:28:15
Speaker 3: But all of our guests today, Andrew Luck and Guy Haberman, agree with me that burgers are not sandwiches. I think we should bring Krugan on this debate. I know there was a passionate debate with Krug later today, earlier today. I don't know, Kurt Signetti.
00:28:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kruk's over here breaking hearts, dude, and destroying minds of Indiana sports fans. But Kruk, can we get Kruk? Can he hear us? Is he all locked in?
00:28:37
Speaker 6: What up, dude?
00:28:38
Speaker 4: I'm locked in.
00:28:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, bro, dude, we.
00:28:40
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed watching those clips of you earlier today. I'm just saying, we got a real kick out of this, dude. Nobody's better than Kruk, man. Nobody's better than my boy Kruk. That was fantastic. That was fantastic stuff, dude. I'm like, you were just giddy about it, too. You're like, I don't know what's going on here, man. You'll find it out there. You'll find Krug talking Indiana football. Anyway, yeah, it's National Sandwich Day, dude. So, like, we don't get into the National Day stuff all that much, but Derek and I got into the hot debate because there's that big debate about, like, is a hot dog a sandwich? And we both were like, no, dude, grow up. It's a hot dog. Like, come on. But then Derek doesn't believe a hamburger or a cheeseburger is a sandwich.
00:29:13
Speaker 4: It's separate.
00:29:13
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck agrees with Derek. He's like, the Earl of Sandwich was not anywhere near the city of Hamburg in Germany when they created it. He really didn't. Like, there was a whole breakdown there. What's your thoughts on the hamburger sandwich debate?
00:29:26
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, can you get a hamburger at Subway?
00:29:29
Speaker 1: No.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: No.
00:29:29
Speaker 13: That's the biggest sandwich spot in America. So I would say to the hamburger being a sandwich.
00:29:35
Speaker 5: There we go.
00:29:35
Speaker 2: Derek's boy, Jared, did lose all that weight eating cheeseburgers.
00:29:38
Speaker 9: My boy.
00:29:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: Cheers.
00:29:39
Speaker 12: Cheers.
00:29:40
Speaker 2: Jesus.
00:29:41
Speaker 13: I mean, if I put a book between two buns, is it a sandwich or is it a book?
00:29:46
Speaker 2: Larry, don't be ridiculous. You can't eat a book. Don't be ridiculous, Frank. Come on, dude. That's insane. Have a great show tonight, Larry. We'll talk to you later, bro. Thanks, Craig. Good stuff. All right, let's put the show to bed here. Danny, you got a note to sell for us?
00:29:58
Speaker 4: Note to sell.
00:30:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, much like the catch in the NFL, I don't know what the hell classifies as a sandwich.
00:30:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, much like that. Well done, Dan.
00:30:05
Speaker 4: Well done.
00:30:05
Speaker 2: I like that, yeah.
00:30:07
Speaker 4: Note to self. Note to self.
00:30:08
Speaker 3: If I have Andrew Luck, Guy Haberman, and a butcher on my side, and Larry Krueger, I must be right.
00:30:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
00:30:14
Speaker 1: All right.
00:30:15
Speaker 2: Note to self.
00:30:16
Speaker 4: Note to self.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: To quote Mr. KMBR, who caught up with me in the hallway earlier, a sandwich is like pornography. I'll know it when I see it. I'll know it when I see it. That's going to do it for dirty work. That's going to do it for dirty work on a Tuesday. That's a great drop after pornography. Thanks to our guests, Andrew Luck and Guy Haberman. If you missed any of those, all available. TheSportsLeader.com, the The Sports Leader app, and the The Sports Leader YouTube channel. We'll be back with you tomorrow for a full show starting at 2 o'clock. And for anybody that needs to hear it, it gets easier every day. It gets a little easier. You just got to do it every day. That's the dirty work, but it does get easier. You are listening to To KMBR and KMBR-FM San Francisco, the sports leader at Cumulus Media Station, Larry Krueger, Niners Nightly starts right now. I'm a fool to do your dirty work, oh yeah.
00:31:03
Speaker 1: I don't want to do your dirty work no more.
Speaker 1: You've found Dirty Work with Adam Copeland and Derek Papa, where no job is too dirty on KNBR, the sports leader.
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Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, D-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. We got a, uh, full show for you every day rest of the week don't we we do and we'll be with you on uh thursday from harmonic brewing and thrive city for the dubs and the miami.
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Speaker 3: Heat yeah what's thursday night game we're not taking that but it's uh oh jags ravens.
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Speaker 2: Who's playing iqb for the ravens they're third string quarterback yeah you want to try to say that name.
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Speaker 4: Uh i believe it's.
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Speaker 2: Everybody should go look at it. I don't even know how to pronounce it. Fagano? Yeah, something like that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 2: All right, boy.
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Speaker 4: I'm sticking to that one.
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Speaker 2: Stick with that one. He started this weekend on Thursday for the Baltimore Ravens. Who are they playing? The Jags?
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Speaker 4: Playing the Jags. Jags might be.
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Speaker 2: Jags are going to get in the Baltimore ass, I think.
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Speaker 4: I think so. They might be the second best team in the AFC.
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Speaker 2: And they're seemingly a complete team.
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Speaker 4: I mean, they might even be better than Buffalo.
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Speaker 2: I think they are. I think they're more complete than Buffalo.
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Speaker 4: They can run the football. They can play defense. They get the crap out of the Colts.
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Speaker 2: And I have a brand of football. That's going to be really tough. If this maintains, they're going to be really tough in January because they play defense. They get after the quarterback. They know how to score and they don't have to score all that much. And they run the football effectively too.
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Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about that as a place for Juwan Jennings, where if you could do like a deal where Brian Thomas jr. Goes to Minnesota and then Juwan Jennings, you throw him maybe like a third round pick. But it sounds like Juwanis wants to stay in Minnesota.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, the Jags, pretty damn good.
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Speaker 2: Why don't we get into it here? Each week we do it because they provide some of the best sound there is across the sports landscape. When NFL and college coaches talk, we listen in a segment we like to call Coach Speak.
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Speaker 5: When NFL coaches speak. We listen.
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Speaker 6: And I just think it's difficult to box without sparring.
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Speaker 4: I couldn't get free coffee.
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Speaker 5: It's football season.
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Speaker 7: Most players play football in football season.
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Speaker 5: This is Coach Speak on the Sports Leader.
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Speaker 2: Coach Speak for Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. And it starts with Aaron Glenn, New York Jets head coach. Yikes. For now. Aaron Glenn, he's talking about, this is after the game.
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Speaker 4: Yes, losing to the Raiders.
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Speaker 2: Lost to the Raiders. Jets wanted to take two shots at the end zone.
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Speaker 4: They were down 38-31 with about a minute left.
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Speaker 3: And the Raiders were a little gutsy with a 53-yard field goal to ice the game. So Geno Smith was taking deep shots against his former team.
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Speaker 2: So here you go. Here's Aaron Glenn. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 8: And we were trying to go to the end zone actually twice. I think we had the ball somewhere at the 30 in that aspect. The thing is, if you would have threw that ball inbounds, we would have had a chance to actually try to get up there and try to spike it and throw another one. But we want to make sure that we got two shots at it and hopefully that they were thinking that we were going to try to stay in balance and we get a chance to get them on a cheap one right there and then hopefully have another chance to do another shot at the end zone.
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Speaker 5: What?
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Speaker 3: Look, Aaron Glenn, really good defensive coordinator back in the day with the Detroit Lions.
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Speaker 4: He's just not a head coach.
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Speaker 2: Back in the day, like two years ago.
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Speaker 4: I know, but he had a great game plan.
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Speaker 3: He threw the kitchen sink at Sam Darnold and he was terrible in that Week 18 game that decided... the top seed in the NFC playoffs. So I think it's a matter of time. I think they're not going to trade Garrett Wilson. It sounds like they might trade Brees Hall though, which is very interesting here, but yeah, the jets are just a dumpster fire.
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Speaker 4: They add talent.
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Speaker 3: Gino's actually playing pretty well. They put up 33, 33 points in this game, but the Raiders defense is just brutal. So I'm making sure that makes the jets look good. So yeah, I think it's only a matter of time before Aaron Glenn is fired. And you might see former Stanford head coach, Frank Reich be the interim head coach the rest of the way?
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Speaker 2: I think I signed a note yesterday. The Jets have three first-round picks in the upcoming draft. If the draft started today, it doesn't. It never does. But if it did, they would have the third, fourth, and seventh picks or third, fourth, and tenth picks.
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Speaker 4: Damn, three picks in the top ten?
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Speaker 2: Right now, that's where they would stand, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and right now, I mean, that sounds good, but like... Who are the best quarterbacks in this draft class?
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Right now, the Jets would have, yeah, they'd have four, six, and ten would be their top three. They have three first-round picks right now.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's some talent if they can find a way to get, like, I don't know, I think Jeremiah Smith's going to drop to even third at this point.
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Speaker 4: I think he might be the best player in this draft class.
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Speaker 2: He's going to the Chargers?
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Speaker 4: But, um, I, you know.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine Chargers get the first-round pick and they take that? I mean, seriously, is that.
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Speaker 4: Well, you got Herbert and you got Jeremiah Smith. It's been their best wide receiver in a long time.
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Speaker 2: That'd be pretty special.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but, like, just hearing Eric Glenn.
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Speaker 3: you know, make these excuses in post game, the New York media is killing him. So I think it's only a matter of time before he gets the ax.
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Speaker 2: He's the best quarterback coming out.
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Speaker 4: That's the thing.
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Speaker 2: They're just the maker.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: They're talking about this guy from Oklahoma state.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But like all the guys that we thought were going to be, you know, really good this year, Arch Manning, he needs to stay in school.
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Speaker 4: Dante Moore got hurt. I, I don't, I mean like Darian Mensah.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Darian Mensah is actually pretty good with Miami right now.
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Speaker 2: CJ Carr of Notre Dame.
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Speaker 4: CJ Carr.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: My guy Sorsby didn't play any downs, but he's, he's looking pretty good right now.
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Speaker 2: Dante Moore.
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Speaker 10: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But Dante Moore got hurt. So I don't really know.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think like all these teams that wanted to wait until this draft class to get their quarterback, whether it was the Jets, the Browns or the Arizona Cardinals. Actually, I mean, the Browns and Cardinals are doing pretty well. The Jets, they'll make a change, obviously, but.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets are only going to do what the Texans did, where the Texans got C.J. Stroud and Will Anderson in the same draft. Yeah. Jets would love to end up with something like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, it sounds like Aaron Glenn might be on the outs here, whether it's in the season or at the end of the season.
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Speaker 2: Moving on here in coach speak, how about Jim Harbaugh? Dude, here's a back and forth. Noah Furtado used to cover the 49ers here. in the Bay Area for the Chronicle. He's now covering the Chargers down in L.A. He's got a back and forth because he's asking him, why won't you make changes with Mike McDaniel? Things are horrible. You're 0-7. Here's Jim Harbaugh on his back and forth with Noah Furtado.
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Speaker 11: Is Mike going to continue to call plays, Jim?
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Speaker 12: Yes. I'm not going to address anything. I'm focused on this game, and that's my focus.
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Speaker 9: What from the past seven games tells you that this can be fixed?
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Speaker 3: You keep him, the team's 0-7, the offense has played an outsized role in the struggles.
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Speaker 9: Why are you keeping him?
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Speaker 13: What is the rationale?
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Speaker 12: Our motivation is and dedication to getting it changed, to getting it fixed.
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Speaker 11: You don't want to answer the question.
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Speaker 12: I said, I'm focused on this game. I will go watch this tape. And I believe in our guys. I believe in our players, our coaches. And yeah, it's us who are the ones that the challenge is with. And we're the only ones that can fix it.
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Speaker 11: Jim, do you understand why I'm asking you about Mike and his role in.
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Speaker 2: All of this?
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Speaker 12: And why.
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Speaker 6: Like, you feel that he should stay as offensive coordinator?
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Speaker 11: Does that make sense, why I'm asking this?
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Speaker 12: You've asked it, and I think I've answered the question, so.
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Speaker 6: I've asked you about him, and you haven't talked about him.
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Speaker 11: You've just said vague.
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Speaker 12: Talk about us. It's a team. It's a team, the team, the team. It's us.
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Speaker 9: Wow.
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Speaker 4: Well done by Noah Furtado.
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Speaker 3: He's grilling him a little bit, though, but I understand that Jim Harbaugh's not really answering the question there. Um, I, I mean, Harbaugh's in a bad spot where it's like Mike McDaniel was thought of as one of the best offensive minds, one of the best in football. When they landed him, that was a big hire to help Justin Herbert. It's been a huge disappointment. Should he be fired? Should he have to, he had to have a play calling duties taken away. I mean, probably just because of the way they performed. At the same time, I understand, like, how is this not working? And, you know, they don't have a lot of great skill position guys. The offensive line's not playing great either. Joe Walt and Rashawn Slater have definitely regressed.
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Speaker 2: It's never one thing.
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Speaker 4: It's never one thing.
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Speaker 2: But he's the head of that snake. And, like, you got to, at some point... It's really bad. I mean, they're bottoms in the league in like almost every statistic.
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Speaker 4: And I can remember the last time they scored a touchdown.
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Speaker 3: They almost got a Hail Mary against the Rams, but still couldn't come up in the end zone in this game.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's bad.
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Speaker 3: And it might be where Mike McDaniel, like we'll see what happens this off season. He'll probably be let go by the chargers. Cause this, you know, they can't tolerate this with being Owen seven with this quarterback. They're not going to trade Justin Herbert. They're probably not going to fire Jim Harbaugh, but they'll probably fire Mike McDaniel. And who knows, maybe, you know, Clay Kubiak gets a head coaching job and Mike McDaniel comes back to be offensive coordinator of the 49ers.
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Speaker 4: You never know. But I, I feel bad for Mike.
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Speaker 3: Cause like this was supposed to be the best landing spot for an offensive play caller with this quarterback. And I understand the questions by Noah, but I also understand that Jim's not going.
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Speaker 2: To answer the question.
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Speaker 9: You haven't talked about him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's dancing around the questions and Jim's getting pissed off. So, I mean, well done by Noah and also kind of well done by Jim in a way.
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Speaker 2: Fewest points in the league. They went 32nd in the league in points or 28th in the league. In total offensive yards, they're 32nd in the league in turnovers and giveaways. They have 17 giveaways. Ten interceptions is the most in the league. They're 31st in touchdowns total. They've scored five touchdowns as an offense. Is that right?
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's incredible.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to like 2006 Oakland Raiders numbers.
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Speaker 2: This is abysmal. For the players that have 32nd in points per drive, it's incredible how bad this stuff has gone for them. 26th in rushing touchdowns. Hey, 21st in yards per attempt. That's a little bit better.
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Speaker 5: I just think, dude.
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Speaker 2: 18th in rushing yards. which is kind of funny.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: They're building like a Baltimore Ravens type of offense with a lot of good blocking tight ends and running the football.
00:10:06
Speaker 4: And that's what Mike McDaniel wants to do.
00:10:07
Speaker 3: But also like why they scored in Miami is because they had speedsters on the outside with Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. So, I mean, there's no, I'm like, well, Adam McConkie is probably the best wide receiver.
00:10:18
Speaker 4: Quinn and Johnson. I'm not a fan of, i don't know what to make of it honestly moving on.
00:10:22
Speaker 2: Here in the uh the sound soiree kevin o'connell want to go to him sure head coach of the minnesota vikings uh kevin o'connell's talking about kyler murray getting more comfortable in that offense despite the loss last.
00:10:33
Speaker 10: Week yeah we're you know it's it's it's going back through it and any you know any of the inconsistencies really dive into the why you know uh i I don't necessarily believe it's going to be one tell-all thing. I think it's how we continue to put together the plans, where he's most comfortable in his alignment, and then marrying up the offense from there. I think we've done a good job of that from a standpoint of the ability to gun run, gun play action, screen, movement game. We like the idea of getting him on the perimeter. We like the idea of activating him a little bit. here and there in the run game, which we saw a little bit today. But I don't necessarily think right now off the top of my head it's one particular thing, but that's what we've got to go back. And I'm very fortunate to have an extra day to go to work on that and knowing that, you know, we're just looking for consistent, you know, doesn't need to be much more than just guys doing their jobs and, you know, pitching and catching, you know, protection, I thought, For the most part, we had a good plan for 97. We had a good plan for some of their stuff. That one or two more plays could change the whole dynamic of one of those sequences that we needed to make play.
00:11:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, bottom line is Kevin O'Connell knows that Kyler Murray's not playing well. And I don't know what they're going to do. They're 6-1, so they're not going to make a quarterback change. But if they had a better backup, if they held on to J.J. McCarthy, maybe things were different. maybe they do bench Kyler Murray for JJ. I don't know if you do that with a winning record. I, I came into the season and this is why I had that, that, you know, I guess bold take that JJ McCarthy would have more snaps than Kyler Murray, but maybe they pulled the trigger too quick on that trade. And maybe JJ just had a bad attitude in training camp. That's why that, Carson Wentz beat him out. But if it's where JJ McCarthy's having success with the giants, they win the division with him making that, that big time trade. You have to look at Kevin O'Connell and be like, dude, what.
00:12:32
Speaker 2: Are you doing? You're supposed to be the guy.
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Speaker 3: You fell in the trap of your own quote, where it was most organizations fail their young quarterbacks. And look, I know that JJ wasn't playing well. He didn't finish the season with, I think a five and old record.
00:12:45
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I'm looking at Kyler right now, and I'm like, I'm not buying that team whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: It looks way better since he's gotten to New York.
00:12:51
Speaker 4: He looks more confident.
00:12:52
Speaker 3: I think he feels loose where, all right, I'm not going to be the guy here, but let me put something out on tape where I can show something to the other 32 teams.
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Speaker 4: Maybe he'll be able to.
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Speaker 2: Turn around and trade him or keep him as an insurance policy for Dart going into next season.
00:13:02
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe.
00:13:02
Speaker 2: We've got to take a quick break. Adam Copeland, Derek Papa, Danny Dunne hanging out with you. We've got more coach speak. We've got some sound story. We can get into all of it next. Dirty work on a Tuesday only here on Esports Leader.
00:13:12
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dirty Work. Adam Copeland and Derek Papa on KNBR 104.5 and 680 AM. The Sports Leader.
00:13:24
Speaker 2: Dirty Work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, T-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. 209 checks into the Golden State Lumber and Showroom text line and says, dude, why wouldn't Harbaugh be fired? He was hired to get them over the hump, and they've regressed two straight years now. The only reason I think he wouldn't be fired is because their owner is super cheap.
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Speaker 4: Yep. The Spanoases are really cheap.
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Speaker 2: Like notoriously cheap.
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Speaker 4: And they spent a pretty penny to get Jim Harbaugh.
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Speaker 2: It's like Jerry and firing guys. Jerry's like, nah, contract will run out and then you'll go.
00:13:49
Speaker 4: Well, did you hear him today? He was like, head coaches don't matter.
00:13:52
Speaker 3: So, like, as long as Braun Schoenheimer's under contract, he's going to be my head coach. And it's like, don't you see? Like, you have a talented team, but they suck. They're not properly coached. That's the case in the NFC East where you might see three different, I mean, you might see the only team that pertains to their head coach is probably the New York Giants. I think Dan Quinn's out probably. I think Nick Sirianni. I know it's, you know, a lot of circumstances with Jalen Hurts getting, you know, his illness with the blood clot and everything. But Brian Schottenheimer, he probably should be let go. But Jerry Jones, he sounds like, nope. If I'm paying for him to be my head coach, it's going to be where he leaves because it's an expiring contract.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: Let's get back into the, why don't we do more coach speak here?
00:14:31
Speaker 9: Sure.
00:14:32
Speaker 2: Should we just call it the San Suarez or just go with the coaches here?
00:14:35
Speaker 4: We'll transition to sound so our way when it's appropriate.
00:14:37
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: It's not appropriate yet. Why don't we, uh, Danny, why don't you open up coach speak again? Because when they talk, we listen.
00:14:43
Speaker 5: When NFL coaches speak, we listen.
00:14:46
Speaker 6: I just think it's difficult to box without sparring.
00:14:49
Speaker 5: I couldn't get free coffee. It's football season.
00:14:51
Speaker 3: Most players play football in football season.
00:14:53
Speaker 5: This is coach speak on the sports leader.
00:14:56
Speaker 2: I just got a shout out this texture here. Nine to five chicken. It says you got to try the barbecue. Try tip sandwich. I believe from the place in San Leandro called Galvin's. Dude, Galvin's Market in San Leandro on the corner of Estadio and MacArthur Boulevard. I grew up on Estadio Avenue right there.
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Speaker 5: Oh, nice.
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Speaker 2: I worked at Sabino's Coffee next door to Joe and Judy Galvin at the great Galvin's Market, one of the great butcher shops that's been open for a long time.
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Speaker 4: Very cool.
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Speaker 2: You are absolutely right, 95. One of my favorite spots. Can't believe I didn't think to go Galvin's Market. Also, just shout out the San Leandro Produce Market across the street in Estadio Plaza there. Good sandwiches there at that produce market. They're one of those produce markets where You get 10 sandwiches, you get a little stamp card.
00:15:33
Speaker 9: Oh, nice.
00:15:33
Speaker 2: Well, if you're a sandwich place with a stamp card, bro, God bless you. I mean, nothing makes me feel happier than getting a burrito stamp card or a sandwich stamp card. What happened to the stamp card?
00:15:45
Speaker 4: I mean, Elaine ruined it for all of us. Free submarine.
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Speaker 2: Elaine ruined it, dude. She did. She did. 808-KMBR is the number to call in Texas. Get back into Coach B here. Why don't we go to Mike McDonald? Let's do it. Head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. They're asking him about the running back situation going into last night's game.
00:16:01
Speaker 4: So before the game, obviously, yeah.
00:16:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, here you go.
00:16:03
Speaker 11: Well, we have a plan for Zach. And with JD, I think if we were to make a move, I think that would happen on Monday, to my knowledge. So we'll see if that's what we do. We've got some things going on roster-wise that we're working through right now, but we have a plan for Zach, and we'll go from there. Just to clarify, so Jadarian doesn't have an injury designation, so if he's not activated, it's not injury-related on Monday.
00:16:29
Speaker 4: Would there be some other reason?
00:16:33
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're just going to let the transaction speak for itself on that one.
00:16:38
Speaker 3: So a lot of people saw that and were like, is he saying that they might trade Darian Price? And Jonathan Taylor's been rumored with the Seattle Seahawks.
00:16:45
Speaker 4: I think he just misspoke.
00:16:46
Speaker 3: I think it was where the transaction is him being activated for the game. Some people were like, are they talking about a move as in like training for a running back? That was never the case. Obviously, both those guys played last night. The Seahawks have been linked to Jonathan Taylor, but I'd be very surprised if they move one of those running backs. They just traded for Quinn and Nelson. They want to improve the running game with those two guys. Zach Charbonnet is coming off a torn ACL. Jadarian Price was taken in the first round. I would be very surprised if the Seattle Seahawks traded for Jonathan Taylor.
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Speaker 2: I would too. That's not something I anticipate happening. Moving on here in coach speak, let's go to Mike Tomlin here. Former head coach. Former head coach, Mike Tomlin. This is on Thursday, excuse me, on Sunday.
00:17:25
Speaker 9: Yes.
00:17:26
Speaker 2: Sunday night football. And he's talking about what he saw from the Cowboys earlier in the day and their loss to the Arizona Cardinals.
00:17:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's giving a little criticism to the Cowboys and, I mean, bad loss to the Arizona Cardinals. So Mike Tomlin gives Brian Schottenheimer and the Cowboys coaching staff some words of advice.
00:17:42
Speaker 2: There you go.
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Speaker 6: I saw a bunch of blinkers. And what I mean by that, I say if you're a blinker, cut your eyelids off. What I mean is you got to relish the thick moments. You got to want to make the play as an individual and as a unit within a team. And watching the end of that game, I didn't see individuals or particular units that wanted to grab the bull by the horns and win the game. Certainly their defense, we can spend a lot of time talking about that two-minute drive and things of that nature, but their offense... Had a short field when they had an unsuccessful onside kick at the end of regulation. And then they went three out in overtime. And so I see a team that doesn't have anybody that wants to be the unit to secure victory. They're blinkers. They got to cut their eyelids off.
00:18:24
Speaker 4: Cut me, Mitch.
00:18:27
Speaker 2: You're blinkers. Cut off your eyelids.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the metaphor, like cutting your eyelids off.
00:18:30
Speaker 4: Good Lord.
00:18:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:18:31
Speaker 2: It's a little different than like a nuclear illusion. Bull Durham, she's telling him to breathe through his eyelids.
00:18:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
00:18:37
Speaker 2: He's got to breathe through eyelids. Like the lizards on the Galapagos Islands.
00:18:41
Speaker 3: I can see Tom giving a motivational speech to this Pittsburgh Steelers back in the day.
00:18:45
Speaker 4: It's like, cut your eyelids off, gentlemen. They're like, what the hell are you talking about, coach?
00:18:49
Speaker 2: Coach, what are you talking about? 510 checks in. Oh, it's Van. He says, dude, Galvin's and Sailander are great for sandwiches. That's a whole great strip there. on MacArthur in San Leandro. Good butcher and meat selection. Sabino's Coffee. Did I work there for a couple years?
00:19:01
Speaker 9: There you go.
00:19:02
Speaker 2: Sabino's Coffee, dude, right there in San Leandro. And then a Main Street Bagels, also phenomenal bagels. I love you, good bagel. Great spot. I love shining a light on San Leandro, anywhere I grew up. Uh, phenomenal and great places to hang and eat. Uh, moving on here, Bill Belichick. You guys hear this? Bill Belichick is single. Yeah.
00:19:17
Speaker 4: And ready to mingle.
00:19:19
Speaker 2: Settle down, Dan. Uh, Bill Belichick single now. And, uh, he was at student. Somebody's shaking his head. Somebody straight up asked him about his relationship with Jordan Hudson.
00:19:28
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:19:28
Speaker 3: After they had a close game against, um, who they play Miami on.
00:19:31
Speaker 2: Miami, just can't invite me. Number one team in the nation, right?
00:19:34
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:19:34
Speaker 3: They lost 38 to 35. So pretty good. Uh, pretty, pretty good fight by, uh, the fighting Bill Belichick, but, uh, Yeah, rumors that him and Jordan Hudson have split. They said apparently they split over a year ago. They remain close business partners and friends. Here's Bill Belichick.
00:19:49
Speaker 12: There was some national reporting over the weekend about your relationship status with Jordan Hudson.
00:19:53
Speaker 4: I wonder if you had any comment on that and what it might mean.
00:19:57
Speaker 2: For you.
00:19:57
Speaker 9: Do you prefer tabloid?
00:19:58
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Bill.
00:20:00
Speaker 12: Yeah.
00:20:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll keep my personal comments and relationships to myself. That's all right with you.
00:20:07
Speaker 3: I don't blame him for that one. He asked the reporter, are you in the tabloids now? Like fair, I guess, I don't know if a fair question. I don't really know. Like that's some TMZ crap. And I get why it was asked, but also like, It's a football press conference.
00:20:20
Speaker 4: Like, that's a little ridiculous to me.
00:20:21
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what the point of that would have been, but I'm glad somebody asked. Like, do I think you should have asked? No, but if he does, I'll listen. You know what I mean? Like, that's how it goes.
00:20:35
Speaker 3: I mean, like, when you're in that situation, you probably should ask, but also, like, that also gives, like, an eye roll to a lot of people in that room where it's like, you're really asking about this girl right now? And I understand, like, she was part of his life for a long time, but it's not... any importance to the football team.
00:20:49
Speaker 2: He's like, we're on to some new young men.
00:20:51
Speaker 3: Apparently, there was a report that his family and friends were like, about time, Bill.
00:20:57
Speaker 4: This was kind of crazy.
00:20:58
Speaker 2: He's like, we're on to blondes. I don't know what he would say. And that is Coach Speak for Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. All right, we won't take a break. We'll just keep it right here. Some of the best sounds from across the sports world you might have missed with the Dirty Work Sound Soiree. That was appropriate.
00:21:15
Speaker 4: No, I've whipped up.
00:21:17
Speaker 13: This nasty little soiree.
00:21:19
Speaker 5: The best sounds you might have missed.
00:21:22
Speaker 2: Soiree, what? Soiree, honey, I think that means party. All right, your Sound Soiree for Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. And it starts, can we skip Perkins? I don't need to hear Perkins on Draymond. Do you want to hear that?
00:21:37
Speaker 4: Just to show how much of an idiot he is.
00:21:38
Speaker 2: We don't need to do that. We know how much of an idiot Perkins is. All right, all right, fine. Let me just explain to you guys this. Kendrick Perkins said something about Draymond that didn't really even make sense because the Warriors won the game. There you go.
00:21:49
Speaker 4: Figured it all out.
00:21:50
Speaker 2: Moving on here in the sound soiree, this is what I do want to get to. Stephen A. Smith and Michael Irvin.
00:21:56
Speaker 4: Tim's guy.
00:21:57
Speaker 2: Tim Webb's boy. Oh, yeah. Friend of the program, dude.
00:21:59
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: He's like dapping up Tim Webb, dude, at Super Bowl.
00:22:02
Speaker 4: This guy knows what I'm talking about.
00:22:03
Speaker 2: He knows about the White House.
00:22:05
Speaker 4: I said, I got my White House, and you got your White House, and.
00:22:08
Speaker 2: Then you got to come to mine. They just started laughing and dapping up Tim. I was like, what the hell is he talking about?
00:22:12
Speaker 3: Tim knew.
00:22:13
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I didn't know Tim was at the barbecues like that. The cookouts. Here's Stephen A.
00:22:17
Speaker 1: Smith.
00:22:19
Speaker 2: With Michael Irvin, which is a funny combination. And they're talking about the Cowboys head coaching situation.
00:22:24
Speaker 7: Your record says you ain't even mediocre.
00:22:26
Speaker 6: You ain't even average. You four games under.
00:22:28
Speaker 7: 500, and you calling yourself great. That's the damn problem. That's why you need somebody like Rex Ryan coming in there, kick somebody's ass, get somebody out up there.
00:22:38
Speaker 2: Give them an attitude.
00:22:40
Speaker 7: That's what you need. Just like you have Mike Dicker with Buddy Ryan, you need somebody like Rex Ryan. If I'm Jerry Jones, I call ESPN right now. Trying to pluck Rex Ryan from this job to get him on the sideline this damn weekend. I promise you, with four days preparation, that man will do a better job than what the hell we've seen the Dallas Cowboys doing all season long.
00:23:05
Speaker 2: I'd bet my check on it. And needless to say. That's an easy bet, Steve. I don't like. Like you think that's something big. Anybody will bet they check on it because anybody. Would you? I'm not sure about you. Anybody, man.
00:23:19
Speaker 7: That's just right now. Tomorrow you'll probably be making an apology for them.
00:23:23
Speaker 9: There is no worse than you can be. There is no worse that you can be than they are right now. There is no such thing as lower than this or worse than this or not as good as this. They are the worst. So anybody, anybody, my dad, mom can coach them better.
00:23:45
Speaker 3: If you see the video, Shay Cornette, who hosts First Take, she cringes, being like, oh my God, he actually just said that right now?
00:23:52
Speaker 2: Dude, also, he's like, you can't be worse than this. I was like, you're three and five. You can't be the Chargers.
00:23:57
Speaker 4: And they're still probably going to win the division.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: Statistically, they're way worse ways to be than this.
00:24:02
Speaker 4: Doesn't Stephen A hate the Cowboys? He's getting all worked up, and now he's acting like- I'd bet my check on it. And needless to say, it's a hell of a check. Let me tell you.
00:24:10
Speaker 2: He ain't betting ass.
00:24:12
Speaker 3: And also, you know what? I respect Rex Ryan, but he's been out of the game for 10 years now. Like, let's not act like he'll be, you know, the guy that turns around the Dallas Cowboys defense. If they called him up today, he left television and stopped calling out Ashton Gentry and then make something of the Dallas Cowboys defense.
00:24:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, him and Jerry would be such a funny combo.
00:24:32
Speaker 4: Can you imagine that?
00:24:33
Speaker 3: Like Rex Ryan screaming at a Jerry Jones.
00:24:35
Speaker 2: There's no way that's happening.
00:24:36
Speaker 4: No. Let's go eat a damn snack right now, Jerry.
00:24:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine that's happening. Although it wouldn't be as weird or as bad of a hire as when Jeff Saturday was grabbed by the Colts.
00:24:47
Speaker 4: Well, that was ridiculous.
00:24:48
Speaker 2: That was weird because at least Rex Ryan's a coach.
00:24:50
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:24:50
Speaker 10: Yeah.
00:24:51
Speaker 4: But he's been out of the game for so long.
00:24:53
Speaker 2: Can you imagine him trying to run his defenses out there?
00:24:55
Speaker 4: No, because you know what?
00:24:56
Speaker 2: Where's his brother? Rob's somewhere in college right now.
00:24:59
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: Rob's at a big university.
00:25:00
Speaker 4: The bigger Lebowski?
00:25:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like him.
00:25:02
Speaker 4: He does. Nice head of lettuce there.
00:25:05
Speaker 3: Rex Ryan, like, dude, he was good with the Jets. Like, it was all, you know, like, it's very old school coaching, honestly. Like, you need leader of men guys. But, like, Mike Vrabel's different than that, where he's just not, like, some guy that's barking orders all the time or screaming at dudes. There's a certain mentality to play for the New England Patriots, but he's so smart with his coaching and his game planning and his execution in the late stages of a game. That way he handled himself against the Chicago Bears on Thursday Night Football with the way he was telling his defensive lineman, jump offside so I don't have to burn a timeout. Rex Ryan, I'm sorry, but he's not helping any defense right now.
00:25:40
Speaker 2: No, no, that's not the hire. But it would be great to see Jerry make a mistake like that. Not that this was the perfect hire anyway. Yeah, they're cheaper in Dallas. He's not going to pay a coach. Why don't we take a break? We have time on the other side. We'll try to get to one or two more. It's starting to work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, D-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. Larry Kruger coming up at the top of the hour with a little Niners nightly. Niners and Diners nightly. As we're back into the football schedule, the Niners from here on out, all the way to the end of the season, every Sunday except for that Thursday night, I believe, against the Chargers, right?
00:26:12
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:26:12
Speaker 2: In Los Angeles. That's their only other weeknight game. This season, we'll take a quick break. When we come on back, we'll put the show to bed, get you ready for Niners Nightly Dirty Work Tuesday on the Sports Leader.
00:26:21
Speaker 1: Time for Dirty Work to put the show to bed.
00:26:25
Speaker 5: Are you crazy?
00:26:26
Speaker 4: I don't need a bed.
00:26:28
Speaker 5: On the Sports Leader.
00:26:30
Speaker 2: Now you will go to sleep, or I will put you to sleep. You know, meat sandwich, I guess, if you want to call it. Yeah, Ramon called it earlier. Wanted to get in on the burger and sandwich discussion and debate. And he said, he makes a patty melt. And I said, do you call that a burger or a sandwich? He's like, yeah, I call it a meat sandwich. Which, you know, immediately makes me think Harold and Kumar. A blank meat sandwich. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dirty work on a Tuesday evening. Adam Copeland, D-Pop, Danny Dunn with you. Getting ready to put the show to bed. Been a fun show today, dude.
00:27:09
Speaker 9: Yeah.
00:27:10
Speaker 2: The sandwich debate of the day. And really, it's National Sandwich Day. Like, really, we don't get into these, like, National Day things all that much. Right. I, you know, nobody knows where they come from. We always just joke with Tom about them periodically.
00:27:20
Speaker 9: Right.
00:27:20
Speaker 2: You know, National Taco Day, Tim and I were like, yeah, let's get Taco Bell. Went out. That was kind of fun. Just to make it a thing. Gotta love Moss. Make it a thing. An excuse to go do something or eat something that you want. Right on. Which, I don't know why I need one. You can just do it anyway.
00:27:31
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
00:27:31
Speaker 2: Had a sandwich today and ordered a sandwich of panini before I even found out from you that it was National Sandwich Day.
00:27:37
Speaker 3: Well, Alon was talking about it on his show, and it sparked a total debate on today's show. So you are in the camp that a burger is a sandwich.
00:27:46
Speaker 2: I'm in the camp that, like, a sandwich is, yes, like a deli sandwich. Like, there are many types of sandwiches, and I think that a burger is a type of sandwich that falls under the umbrella of a sandwich. The same as I said, denim jeans and slacks are both pants. They fall under that category, but they're two different types of pants.
00:28:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that a burger— And you would just call jeans jeans, but they're still pants.
00:28:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what? Okay, we're comparing pants to burgers right now. This is ridiculous. Burgers are burgers. Hot dogs are hot dogs. Sandwiches are sandwiches. And Dan is with you on this.
00:28:15
Speaker 3: But all of our guests today, Andrew Luck and Guy Haberman, agree with me that burgers are not sandwiches. I think we should bring Krugan on this debate. I know there was a passionate debate with Krug later today, earlier today. I don't know, Kurt Signetti.
00:28:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kruk's over here breaking hearts, dude, and destroying minds of Indiana sports fans. But Kruk, can we get Kruk? Can he hear us? Is he all locked in?
00:28:37
Speaker 6: What up, dude?
00:28:38
Speaker 4: I'm locked in.
00:28:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, bro, dude, we.
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Speaker 2: Really enjoyed watching those clips of you earlier today. I'm just saying, we got a real kick out of this, dude. Nobody's better than Kruk, man. Nobody's better than my boy Kruk. That was fantastic. That was fantastic stuff, dude. I'm like, you were just giddy about it, too. You're like, I don't know what's going on here, man. You'll find it out there. You'll find Krug talking Indiana football. Anyway, yeah, it's National Sandwich Day, dude. So, like, we don't get into the National Day stuff all that much, but Derek and I got into the hot debate because there's that big debate about, like, is a hot dog a sandwich? And we both were like, no, dude, grow up. It's a hot dog. Like, come on. But then Derek doesn't believe a hamburger or a cheeseburger is a sandwich.
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Speaker 4: It's separate.
00:29:13
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck agrees with Derek. He's like, the Earl of Sandwich was not anywhere near the city of Hamburg in Germany when they created it. He really didn't. Like, there was a whole breakdown there. What's your thoughts on the hamburger sandwich debate?
00:29:26
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, can you get a hamburger at Subway?
00:29:29
Speaker 1: No.
00:29:29
Speaker 2: No.
00:29:29
Speaker 13: That's the biggest sandwich spot in America. So I would say to the hamburger being a sandwich.
00:29:35
Speaker 5: There we go.
00:29:35
Speaker 2: Derek's boy, Jared, did lose all that weight eating cheeseburgers.
00:29:38
Speaker 9: My boy.
00:29:38
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:29:39
Speaker 1: Cheers.
00:29:39
Speaker 12: Cheers.
00:29:40
Speaker 2: Jesus.
00:29:41
Speaker 13: I mean, if I put a book between two buns, is it a sandwich or is it a book?
00:29:46
Speaker 2: Larry, don't be ridiculous. You can't eat a book. Don't be ridiculous, Frank. Come on, dude. That's insane. Have a great show tonight, Larry. We'll talk to you later, bro. Thanks, Craig. Good stuff. All right, let's put the show to bed here. Danny, you got a note to sell for us?
00:29:58
Speaker 4: Note to sell.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, much like the catch in the NFL, I don't know what the hell classifies as a sandwich.
00:30:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, much like that. Well done, Dan.
00:30:05
Speaker 4: Well done.
00:30:05
Speaker 2: I like that, yeah.
00:30:07
Speaker 4: Note to self. Note to self.
00:30:08
Speaker 3: If I have Andrew Luck, Guy Haberman, and a butcher on my side, and Larry Krueger, I must be right.
00:30:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
00:30:14
Speaker 1: All right.
00:30:15
Speaker 2: Note to self.
00:30:16
Speaker 4: Note to self.
00:30:16
Speaker 2: To quote Mr. KMBR, who caught up with me in the hallway earlier, a sandwich is like pornography. I'll know it when I see it. I'll know it when I see it. That's going to do it for dirty work. That's going to do it for dirty work on a Tuesday. That's a great drop after pornography. Thanks to our guests, Andrew Luck and Guy Haberman. If you missed any of those, all available. TheSportsLeader.com, the The Sports Leader app, and the The Sports Leader YouTube channel. We'll be back with you tomorrow for a full show starting at 2 o'clock. And for anybody that needs to hear it, it gets easier every day. It gets a little easier. You just got to do it every day. That's the dirty work, but it does get easier. You are listening to To KMBR and KMBR-FM San Francisco, the sports leader at Cumulus Media Station, Larry Krueger, Niners Nightly starts right now. I'm a fool to do your dirty work, oh yeah.
00:31:03
Speaker 1: I don't want to do your dirty work no more.
