US to Livestream Execution of Traumatized Soldier | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

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Hey there, it's Friday, October 9th, 2026. Thanks
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for joining us here on DeProgram with Ted Rall
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and Jamarl Thomas. Here's what we've got today.
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Some kind of outlandish news, in case you've been,
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you're just waking up. The defense secretary,
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Pete Hegseth, says that the firing squad execution
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of Nidal Malik Hasan will be live streamed.
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You heard that right. Your kids can watch. Make
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sure they tune in on December 3rd. Obviously,
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we'll get into that. Unidentified ICE agents
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using unmarked cars surrounded a Dominican man
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and his five-year-old son in his car in the
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Marble Hill section of the Bronx and shot him
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multiple times. Chaos in the Bronx right now.
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There's protest demonstrations. Mayor Mamdani
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called President Trump to demand that ICE withdraw
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completely from New York City. Obviously, that's
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not going to happen. Meanwhile, the Pentagon
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has developed plans to start up the war against
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Iran in earnest. They say they're going to go
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after Iran's drone and missile arsenal. What?
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They didn't do that before? Anyway, but Trump
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keeps kicking the can down the road. If anything's
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going to happen, the word is it won't happen
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until after the midterms. Meanwhile, the Houthis
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have struck Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, with ballistic
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missiles. Explosions were heard at the
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airport, so if you're delayed flying
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into Riyadh, you'll know why. Also, a new report
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shows that there's something to what Chris Murphy
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is saying about there being a cover-up. At least
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81 U.S. military aircraft, drones, and choppers
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were lost or damaged to the Iranians so far since
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the conflict began in late February.
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Last but not least, the Trump administration is
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going after tech companies for abusing the green
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card H-1B visa programs to do what J.D. Vance
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calls replacing American workers with effectively
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foreign indentured servants. Also, the administration's
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going after major universities and colleges like
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Harvard, Yale, and Stanford, saying that those
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institutions are abusing and misusing a program
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that was meant to simply let people into the
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United States to study and then go back home.
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Please like, follow, and share the show. We're here
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for two hours. It's Friday. It's nine o'clock
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right now. We're going to go to 11 o'clock. At
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11 o'clock, DMZ America podcast with me and
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Scott Stantis, except Scott's out today, so just
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me. Guest will be Steve Breen of the San Diego
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Union-Tribune, two-time Pulitzer winner. Okay,
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that's a handful. Good morning, Jamarl. How are
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you? Oh, you are muted, I think. Yeah, I'm okay.
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I'm not bad. Okay, good. It's like when I leave
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my show and if anything happens on my show, it
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screws with me for the show. Did anything happen?
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Yeah. So I was supposed to have a guest on the
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show, and usually I do this stuff on my own.
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There's not really a middleman, and so it's inelegant
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when there's a middleman and the guest doesn't
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get the link for the show. And so it's kind of
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like you have to do the show on your own for
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the entire time frame, and you weren't what you
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have to do. It's fair enough, but it scores with
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you. It's like you have a thing in mind and it
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bugs you. Totally, totally. It's okay. Hopefully,
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I guess, come back on at some point. Yeah, I guess
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it's not showing up. It's just sort of, it just
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happens. It used to happen even on,
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I had a show on a major station,
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so I don't take it personally. Now I'm
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like, oh, maybe they're just seeing my podcast.
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People would flake out on KFI radio, and it served
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15 western states, and it was a powerhouse. People
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just not show up. Sometimes there's just
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tech issues, or they can't get home on time, or
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whatever. Well, to be fair, the guests didn't
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flake out. The person who was booking the guests
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didn't send them. Oh, didn't get all the
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logistics straight. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That happens.
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Getting the links where they need to be and all
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that stuff. It's inelegant when there's a middleman,
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but it's okay. It's one of those mistakes. They happen,
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but it still works. But otherwise, the world is
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good. Shocking news, though. So Nidal Malik Hasan
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is the Fort Hood shooter. He's an army major.
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He shot and killed 13 of his colleagues at Fort
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Hood Army Base back in 2009. When
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this was all happening, amid the chaos,
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he was shot and is paralyzed from
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the waist down. He's in a wheelchair now. Pete
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Hegseth says he'll be executed by firing squad
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on December 3rd, and this is going to be live
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streamed. I decided to look up when was the
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last time there was a public execution in the
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United States. The public execution was
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1936. So this happened. A guy named Rainey
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Bethea, a Black guy, was hung in Owensboro, Kentucky.
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There was a huge crowd, 10 to 20,000 people
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estimated. Apparently, the guy who ran the trap
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lever was drunk, according to local newspapers.
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It was such a fiasco that the state of Kentucky
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repealed the statute that had kept public hangings
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legal. And so basically, he was found guilty
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of rape, even though there was a murder involved.
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It was a younger Black guy who was convicted
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of raping, and he wasn't convicted of killing,
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an old white widow who was 70 years old.
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She was found raped and strangled.
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Historians generally believe he was probably
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guilty, but the trial was a complete nightmare.
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So it was three hours before an all-white jury.
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His court-appointed lawyers didn't call a single
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witness, made no closing argument. Jury deliberations
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didn't even last five minutes, four and a half
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minutes. Prosecutors only
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went after him for rape rather than murder because
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they wanted to have a public hanging, and
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Kentucky law did allow a public county hanging
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for rape, but murder meant that he would be electrocuted
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inside the state prison at Eddyville. So they
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wanted to have a big spectacle here. Lawyers argued
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that he hadn't gotten a fair trial. Obviously,
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that's pretty true. It's generally viewed as
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a Jim Crow legal lynching in form, even though
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he may well have been guilty. That happened 90
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years ago. It's the last time there was a public
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hanging. I've got to say, I've mentioned
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this before, Jamarl. I do think that it is not,
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there's any number of criminals in
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the military justice system as well as in the
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normal criminal justice system who could be
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chosen for a public execution. And the fact that
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they're choosing a guy who is Muslim is not lost
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upon me. It seems very racially coded. I
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think this is on purpose. It goes with all the
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messaging that we see every single day by the
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president and his allies on social media. If you
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watch, you read X every single day, as I do, you're
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constantly seeing stuff about Muslims
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are evil, Muslims must be deported, Muslims must
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go. To me, this is all part of a messaging plan.
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But there's a lot more to say about it, but
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I want to hear what you have to say. I got
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the video. It's in the bottom of Hegseth, and the
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level of glee and excitement that is coming out
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of Hegseth should not be lost on people in this
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moment. Let's play the clip, Robby. Okay, Robby,
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can you hit play on this thing? One last question.
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I know you got to run. We all have to run. I
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don't believe that they are circling. Yes, yes.
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He doesn't mean the birds. I don't believe anyone's
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asked you on air about this yet. And so I
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wanted to get you on the record. Major Hasan,
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huge news that came out. One of these people,
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Joe Garza and I have, is another federal one who's
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got the death penalty that we were sort of waiting
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on, but he's not military. But Major Hasan,
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this news that came down regarding firing squad.
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Can you tell us about how that came about and
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what led to that decision process? No-brainer.
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Execution by firing squad. Army major betrays
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his country. Radical Islamist kills a bunch of
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Americans at Fort Hood. Of course, we're going
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to do it at Fort Hood and do it on a Thursday.
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We're going to do it at one o'clock, which is
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when he did it. And it's going to be soldiers
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with rifles executing the firing squad. It hadn't
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been since World War II since we've done that.
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Well, I kind of like the mentality we had in
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World War II, which was win, which was understand
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when the enemy attacks you, you stand your ground.
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So it was a radical Islamist terror attack. Remember
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what Obama called it? Workplace violence?
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That's what we're up against. That's the worldview
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we're up against, is workplace violence, CVE.
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We know what it is. It was a radical Islamist
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attack in uniform inside the ranks. And so he's
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going to get a firing squad of soldiers, as it
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should be. And we'll make sure that people are
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able to watch it, that it's public, because people
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need to understand that there's serious consequences
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for these types of things. Has Major Hasan made
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any final requests, reached out to the president,
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anything like that, to your knowledge? Don't care.
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We'll see him on December 3rd. December 3rd,
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Fort Hood. Ladies and gentlemen, Secretary of
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War Pete Hegseth. Thank you very much. Thanks
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for coming with us. Appreciate it. First member
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of the media, whatever you want to call him,
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to ever do PT with us as well. I was surprised
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about that. Nobody's asked. Nobody's asked. Well,
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not everybody can cut it. Like Jack. Hey, I thought
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it was just something to do. I was trying. Okay.
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Thanks, Ryan. So, look, first point. I agree
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it should be public. I agree it should be public
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because, like I said, if we're going to kill
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people, this is a measure of the state. All executions
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should be public. Yeah, it should be public.
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We shouldn't be sanitizing this. If the state
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is going to kill somebody, the state should kill
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someone, right? And it shouldn't be something
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where the state makes it look as if, yeah, we're
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going to kill people, but we're going to sanitize
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it to the point where it's like a person has
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gone to sleep. No, you're killing somebody.
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That's not a trivial thing. And the glee that
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Hegseth gets out of this, it's a little disturbing.
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I get it, it's a machine process, right?
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You have a trial, you convict the person, and
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the machine now dispenses quote-unquote justice.
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And in this case, justice is a firing squad.
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Okay, I get it. He killed 13 people. I thought
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it was 18, but he killed 13 people. I get it.
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He's clearly guilty of sin. If you're going
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to kill anybody, this would be the poster boy
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for the person that you kill. What I don't like
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is Hegseth's excitement. Actually, I'm not going
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to say he's clearly guilty. He killed
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them, but I think an insanity
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defense would have
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withstood scrutiny in a civil court.
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In a criminal, in a
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military tribunal, they're not going to do that. In a
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court-martial, but the fact is he was insane.
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Okay, so the point is he suffered PTSD by proxy.
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There's no doubt about that in my mind. He was
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an army psychologist. He was dealing with people
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who were coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq
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who committed all sorts of war crimes and witnessed
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other war crimes and witnessed terrible things
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happen to their colleagues. And they were very
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messed up. It's well established that psychologists
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who deal with a lot of that kind of trauma often
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find themselves traumatized themselves, according
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to his colleagues at the clinic where he worked
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on base. He was already catatonic and psychotic
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and was suffering a psychotic break before the
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shooting. A lot of people brought this,
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his mental state, to the attention of their superior
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officers. They were all dismissed, ignored, brushed
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off. I think the guy snapped. He lost
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his mind. This isn't about, so was he,
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radicalized after the fact? The way
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that Hegseth and other people in the military
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are portraying this right now is as if this guy
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snuck in as a sleeper agent from another country,
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got himself into the military, worked
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his way up to major with a view toward one
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day I'll have my big shot and I'll shoot up a
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medical clinic inside an army base. That's not
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what happened. This guy joined the military as
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a patriotic American, worked his way up through
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the ranks, became a major. That's, very
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few soldiers ever get that far, and then
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found himself basically losing his mind,
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didn't get any help that he needed, snapped, and
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had a psychotic break in an environment where
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he and everyone else has easy access to weapons.
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I think an insanity defense would
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have been appropriate here. Execution is,
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it's crazy. If you're going to
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execute him, I agree. Do it in public. They're
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going to live stream it. I hope every
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child sees it because this is the true nature
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of this country. It is a full reflection of the
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American experience, every bit as much as NASCAR,
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apple pie, baseball, and the Pledge of Allegiance.
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It's who we are. We're mean. We're cruel. We
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have no sympathy whatsoever for other people
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when they break. We're assholes. And so we need
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to make sure that everyone knows we're assholes.
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And so thank you, Pete Hegseth, who is not gay
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and does not like other men and does not think
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about what they would feel like in his arms when
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he works out with them. Thank you, Pete Hegseth,
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for telling us, for making this decision, because
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it's going to force us to confront who we are.
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Well, that's why I think it should be live. It
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forces us to confront who we are. And ultimately,
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the public can make a choice. Full
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agreement. No sarcasm at all. Yeah. But,
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but Ted, did he know what he was doing was wrong?
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I don't know. I think that's the thing. I don't
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know. Okay, but that's the crux of the issue, and
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he killed 13 people. There are 13 people
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that no longer exist. I understand. Look, I
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agree with you, and he injured other, and he injured
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over 30 more, some of whom I assume
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are still, many of whom I'm sure are still not
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the same people as a result. An argument
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could be made, right, that he is a result of America's
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policy abroad, and I agree with you on that, that
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this idea of culpability. Hegseth is making
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this speech as if, except who's head of a military
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organization has sent those people over there
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to commit crimes and commit mayhem. You
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heard what he said, right? This is, we
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have to win. Okay, where's the win here?
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Major Hasan, it was not
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an enemy of the United States. Okay, he's not
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an enemy. He's one of our own. And he snapped
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and killed a bunch of people. That's the truth.
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It's not about winning. Who are we defeating?
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Did we take out an Iranian agent? He's not Iranian.
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Did we take out... Ted, it just boils... There
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are 13 people that no longer exist. Right. They
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have family members. They have connections. They
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were real people, right? Yeah. Despite the fact
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that they were American soldiers. Yeah, they
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were just waiting to see a doctor. Yeah. I have
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a question for you, Ted, and I mean this sincerely.
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I've been thinking about this a lot. First, how
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do we know he snapped? How do we know that he
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did not choose his... I think that JT's right.
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No, the United States is there in the Middle
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East. It's a wedgie war against Muslims. We're
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killing a million people in Iraq. We just got
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occupying Afghanistan, doing all this crap, right?
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So I don't think you can say that he snapped.
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Maybe he decided his allegiance to his religion
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and to the Islamic Ummah was of a higher loyalty
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than the oath to the nation in which he served.
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Or he thought we were wrong. Or maybe it's both.
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Meaning all the people came back and reported
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stories about how they were killing other Muslims,
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for lack of a better term. But I guess the point
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I'm trying to make is, if you snap, that means
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that you're out of your mind and you're out of
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control. Whereas if you sit down, if you reason
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this thing through, you decide, I am going in
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my own way to stop as many American servicemen
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from killing my Muslim brothers and sisters as
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I possibly can. That's not crazy. That's you
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making a choice. I think you guys are missing
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the point here, or at least I'm failing to articulate
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this well. No, you explained it very well. What
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I'm trying to say is I don't think that,
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okay, so when I say that the guy snapped, snapping
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doesn't mean that there's no internal logic.
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Snapping doesn't mean the person goes, blah,
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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and just basically
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loses their mind and starts eating their own
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tongue. I guess that kind of thing does
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happen. But there's an internal logic within
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psychosis that draws upon the real world. For
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example, there was a spate of paranoid schizophrenic
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homeless people pushing Asian women off subway
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platforms in New York City, right around the
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time that Trump was saying that all the stuff
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about China and Chinese people and how China
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was spreading the coronavirus in the United States,
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right? Why? So there's a correlation.
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Were those people crazy? Yes, but they're
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also drawing from stuff that's happening in the
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real world, in the news and in current events,
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that it's entirely possible that a guy
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might, who's, he might just draw, be
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like, the psychosis might prompt him to say,
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I'm Muslim. I've got to stop these Americans
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from killing my co-religionists. The two things
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are not in conflict necessarily at all. They're
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not in conflict, but that's a rational act. It's
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like crime. It's an irrational act drawing from
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rational occurrences. That's the thing. That's
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why you should have a trial. I can't imagine
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he had a fair, that guy couldn't have a fair
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trial. Is it a rational act? Well, yes. It could
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be. If you're Hamas, you have nothing to fight
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with and you are resisting, then yeah, the situation
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that you're in could push you to strap a bomb
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on yourself and blow up something. But some suicide
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bombers are psychotic and suicidal anyway, right?
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Maybe they're suicidal, but the situations that
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they're in, they see it as a rational act. And
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I can't necessarily say they're wrong, considering
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they're fighting an enemy. Well, the question
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is not whether they see it as a rational act.
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The question is whether it is a rational act.
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Here's the difference. What do you think? Whoa,
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whoa, whoa. If I do something crazy, but I think
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it's rational, of course I think it's rational.
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The question is, objectively, would a jury of
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12 presumably sane Americans think that I
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did a rational act, right? He did, but I guess
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what I'm saying is people come back, they relay
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their stories, and if his response is, I'm going
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to kill Americans as a result of what I've heard,
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I don't know if that's a break. I don't know
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if that's a psychological break. That's irrational,
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and they may say, well, he was radicalized. I
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would say he heard story after story after story.
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Maybe it's both. Maybe it's both. He was radicalized
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and he was made psychotic, and maybe the psychosis
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is what led him to the radicalization. These are
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a lot of things. There's no way that guy, kind
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of, let me put it this way. There's no way I believe
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that guy could get a fair trial after,
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in a military court, in a court-martial, after
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killing a bunch of soldiers. I don't see how that
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guy got a fair trial. Well, the standard of justice
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is different. He killed 13 people and wounded
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tens of soldiers, whatever that number is, 50,
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60, 70, 80. That is a lot of people to hurt and
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injure and then to go along with it. It's a bloodbath.
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A bleeding heart case for the killer. I'm not
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saying that. I'm just saying that I don't
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want to be, look, the main point here is, of
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course, we should focus on the live streaming
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and the execution itself. But I just don't want
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to be too quick and say, oh, he's clearly guilty.
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I'm not, I don't think, I don't really believe
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he's really guilty. Okay, let's say he clearly
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did it. Yeah, he did. You agree with that part,
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right? There's no question about that, yeah.
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Okay, and there are 13 people who had lives,
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family members and everything, that no longer
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exist. And there are tens of others that are
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wounded maybe for life. You agree with that part?
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100%. Your issue is, is he psychotic? And I guess
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I'm saying, I don't know if he's psychotic. Look
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at his fucking face. Seriously. He's
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not going to tell me anything. I'm saying somebody
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killed a lot of people. And my bias, I got to
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be honest, is towards the people who were murdered.
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Yes, I have. I accept that he was damaged
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by the people who came back and relayed stories
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and everything else. But I also have to put that
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into context of the number of people that he
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killed and wounded. Those people aren't
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nothing. And for whatever particular, put it
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this way. It feels, and I'll just say feels, it
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feels like there's a bleeding heart for the killer.
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That's what it feels like. Oh, for me? Yeah. I'm
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just interested now. Not really. I'm interested
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in fairness. I've always been interested in fairness,
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and so I don't really,
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I don't stand up at night thinking I had much
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more of a bleeding heart for someone like John
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Walker Lindh, who was literally sent
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to prison for 20 years for carrying an AK-47
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that he could have bought at a store near Robby's
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house for a few hundred bucks. Okay.
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That, I seriously have, I have bleeding
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heart for him. That's bullshit. It's not like
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I don't want him to have a fair trial. I don't
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think he had a fair trial. I don't think he had
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a fair trial. I don't think he's been treated
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fairly. I think that, I think
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it's a tragedy. I think that there's
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14 murders, 14 deaths, not 13, from Fort Hood, and
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he's one of them. I think it's like,
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I don't think the military handled
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him well. I don't think that, I think
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this all could have been avoided if the warnings
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to his supervisors had been heeded and paid attention
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to. I think it's a bunch of cold-ass, stupid, rules-
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following idiots who let this happen. That may
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be true. I guess the part that I don't
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understand is, first, how can we know that the
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guy is crazy when it could just be a matter of
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allegiance? And let me give you an example I
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think that fits better. We should know one way
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or the other for sure before we firing-squad
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a guy on the international internet. Ted, you can
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never know exactly what is in another person's
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heart or what is in their mind. Case in point,
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in 1861, there are an awful lot of people who
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made a conscious choice that their allegiance
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to their home state was worth
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more than the allegiance to the United States
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military. We call those people Confederates.
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What I'm saying is that Hasan could have
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made that exact same choice. He could have decided,
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in a completely rational mind, in
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the same mold as Jeb Stuart or A.P. Hill, that my
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allegiance to my faith. I'm totally open to that
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possibility. But you're making, but you're saying
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he's psychotic. The burden of proof is on the
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prosecution. This is the United States. The burden
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of proof is on the prosecution. Did he kill 13
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people, yes or no? Yeah. There you go. But they
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have to also show that he was in a, the prosecution
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also has to show that he was of sound mind to
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do so. If the argument is we can never know what's
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in his mind, then we can never execute anybody.
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No, but we can be 90%. We're supposed to be 90%
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sure or more, right? That's the standard. Okay,
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Ted Rall is not 90% sure or more. Let's put
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it that way. Did they even have this case in
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the open? It was in a military court,
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right? No, it was in a court-martial. So we
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don't know. So they try him and they convict
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him in secret, but they kill him on the internet.
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Yeah, he should be convicted on air also. We
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talked about this, right? All trial procedures,
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including military processes, should all be live
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streamed and stored on the internet. All public
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meetings should be live streamed. All cabinet
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meetings should be live streamed. All meetings
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in the Oval Office should be live streamed. I
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mean, this is the government. We pay for it.
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If it's representative democracy, then unless
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we're talking about matters of
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extreme national security, it should all be public, and
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it's not. Things that you can't do public,
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like there's certain conversations you can't
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have public as a president, or as well, that could be argued, but I think that
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the default mode should be transparency, and
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then you can move to exceptions
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for secrecy. We have the opposite. Everything is,
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the default mode is secrecy. I guess
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the thing is he's in the military, and because
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he's in the military, he's sold. He's not a free
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person. No. If that makes sense. No, you're basically
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property. Yeah. And look, it's going to be, so
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let's do some comments and then we'll get back
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to this a little bit because it is a fucking
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amazing story. FUSO, why just live stream
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executions when we can go full dystopian capitalism
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and make it a game show like in Running Man?
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Right. By the way, I've now seen both versions
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of the movie. Right. The remake is not bad. FUSO
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also says we should go full Logan's Run and go
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to Carousel at 30. Yep. A question for me.
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Philip Blair, did, have you read what Casanova
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himself wrote about his disgust at witnessing
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a public execution in France? If not, check it
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out. Casanova wrote it in French. I have not read
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it, but lots of people, it should be disgusting.
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A person is getting killed. Disgust should
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be right, the default. They still have to decide,
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right? Whether they're going to, he's in
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a wheelchair. Are they going to strap him up
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to a post, or are they going to shoot him in his
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chair? Keep him in a wheelchair. The
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public should see it. If we're going to
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do it, the public should. We do it. It's our
00:27:38.180 --> 00:27:40.119
money that pays for it. The public should see
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it. I couldn't agree more. And again, I think
00:27:42.140 --> 00:27:43.660
our children should be forced to watch it in
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school. If they, well, it's going to
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:50.440
be public. So it's public. They should, people,
00:27:50.579 --> 00:27:53.309
kids should know what kind of country they're
00:27:53.309 --> 00:27:55.890
growing up into. They should know what their
00:27:55.890 --> 00:27:59.069
country does, what it's like. The glee,
00:27:59.069 --> 00:28:02.250
the video that you showed there, Jamarl, from
00:28:02.250 --> 00:28:05.549
Pete Hegseth. He's about to have an orgasm.
00:28:05.549 --> 00:28:10.369
He's so excited. By the way, are we getting conned
00:28:10.369 --> 00:28:12.930
here? Is this just a distraction? We're going to be talking about this for the
00:28:14.650 --> 00:28:17.529
next month instead of the elections. And
00:28:17.529 --> 00:28:19.349
this is just an attempt
00:28:19.349 --> 00:28:22.630
to have us only, because this is,
00:28:22.630 --> 00:28:25.130
the timing is pretty suspect.
00:28:25.130 --> 00:28:27.750
The dude's been sitting there since 2009, right?
00:28:27.750 --> 00:28:30.059
But I don't think they get anything out of it,
00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:33.059
meaning I don't think anybody watches. Maybe
00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:36.319
his base, like, yeah, we get to kill a
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:40.740
Muslim. Maybe some, but I don't know how many people
00:28:40.740 --> 00:28:43.099
look at that and think to themselves, now
00:28:43.099 --> 00:28:44.519
that we get to kill a Muslim, I'm going to vote
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.859
for Trump. Yeah, I know. Does that work that
00:28:47.859 --> 00:28:52.500
way, or is it no? If you're Trumpy and you were
00:28:52.500 --> 00:28:54.619
on the fence and now you're like, oh, definitely,
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:56.940
I'm back in line. Let us know. He's killing Muslim
00:28:56.940 --> 00:28:58.619
lives. God damn it. I'm going to vote for him.
00:28:58.660 --> 00:29:01.599
That's my president. Hey, if I knew he was going
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:05.259
to kill a Muslim on the internet, I totally would
00:29:05.259 --> 00:29:07.359
vote for my Republican House. I don't understand
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.480
why they're doing this after the midterm elections.
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:12.940
The smart political play would be to do it before
00:29:12.940 --> 00:29:16.759
the elections. Yeah. I don't know. December 3rd,
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:20.869
right? December 3rd, right. Yeah, just
00:29:20.869 --> 00:29:23.950
in time for the holidays. It's clearly
00:29:23.950 --> 00:29:26.210
not a political stunt. There's no value in it.
00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:30.329
True, yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't know what
00:29:30.329 --> 00:29:33.609
the value would be. But it's the choice of this
00:29:33.609 --> 00:29:37.069
guy. We could kill a Muslim on air. No, listen,
00:29:37.369 --> 00:29:40.009
I am a supporter of the death penalty. I'll be
00:29:40.009 --> 00:29:41.869
making the case later on today at 2 o'clock
00:29:41.869 --> 00:29:44.990
Mountain Time with Ted. But here's the thing,
00:29:44.990 --> 00:29:48.980
though. Someone who legitimately enjoys the idea
00:29:48.980 --> 00:29:50.880
of killing somebody should never have that power.
00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:56.660
Yeah, agreed. Never. If you get your rocks off
00:29:56.660 --> 00:29:59.700
of the idea of killing another person, you are
00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:02.720
not the person to have that power. It should
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.839
definitely be more in sorrow than in anger, right?
00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:07.180
Always. Oh, for sure. Why do you think they're
00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:11.180
live streaming this? Yeah, that is the question.
00:30:11.299 --> 00:30:13.859
I'm fascinated by that. Nobody told him to do
00:30:13.859 --> 00:30:16.440
that. They decided to do that. Because American
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:18.519
society is in love with the idea of killing and
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.839
death. But I don't think this is American society.
00:30:21.140 --> 00:30:23.119
I don't think anybody in American society said
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.420
to themselves, hey, what we really need to see
00:30:25.420 --> 00:30:27.519
is to kill somebody live on air. Listen, the
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:31.740
most popular shows that are on TV, and by TV
00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:33.599
I mean Netflix and stuff, are going to be
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:35.900
your violent action thrillers and stuff. It's
00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:37.240
going to be your political thrillers. It's going
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.400
to be war movies. What do those have in common?
00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:43.440
Killing people. True, but it's one thing to kill
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.740
people sanitized on TV, and murder
00:30:46.740 --> 00:30:48.619
and stuff like that. People like that stuff,
00:30:48.619 --> 00:30:52.279
sure, intellectually. I don't know if they're going to
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:53.859
like, I don't know if people are going to watch him
00:30:53.859 --> 00:30:55.559
get shot and think to themselves, yeah, I need
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:58.519
more of that. Oh, I think they would. I
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:00.240
think there's a segment of the population that's
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.740
going to be like, I want this. How is this going
00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:07.779
to play on December 4th? What are people going
00:31:07.779 --> 00:31:10.319
to be saying? Are they going to be saying that?
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.029
Obviously, it's going to be a mix. But what's
00:31:13.029 --> 00:31:16.009
the overall take going to be like? Well,
00:31:16.009 --> 00:31:19.069
that was disgusting, or that was necessary,
00:31:19.069 --> 00:31:23.119
or that was great. What is the... They may say,
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.319
probably disgusting but necessary, or disgusting.
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.059
I don't. Thanks for the ten dollars. James Kelly
00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:31.400
says, I fear it's an attempt to quell dissent
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:34.200
in the ranks. Also, I remember seeing the beheadings
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:36.119
on YouTube, and it made me feel like the terrorists
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.099
were monsters. It will create bad propaganda.
00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:41.920
Yeah, I remember I saw the beheadings on YouTube
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.059
too. Yeah, I think so too. Who looks
00:31:45.059 --> 00:31:46.619
at somebody, chops off a head, and thinks to themselves,
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.640
yeah, I need more of that in my life? Or the
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:53.410
helicopter pilot who was set on fire. Exactly.
00:31:53.650 --> 00:31:56.049
And a firing squad is not that far away from
00:31:56.049 --> 00:31:58.490
that, right? It's still, you're basically
00:31:58.490 --> 00:32:03.329
shooting somebody on air. I don't, look,
00:32:03.430 --> 00:32:06.349
there may be people in the population that Hegseth
00:32:06.349 --> 00:32:08.549
and Trump believe that they are messaging by
00:32:08.549 --> 00:32:11.230
doing this, and by being so excited about, we're
00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:12.569
going to kill a Muslim on air, because that's
00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:14.650
what it boils down to. I agree with you. It's not,
00:32:14.650 --> 00:32:16.849
we're killing a soldier on air. We're killing a
00:32:16.849 --> 00:32:20.369
Muslim that was in the ranks that snuck in somehow
00:32:20.369 --> 00:32:22.470
and all of a sudden killed all of these American
00:32:22.470 --> 00:32:24.130
troops. That's the way they're running with this,
00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:27.170
right? And even in the British thing, what did
00:32:27.170 --> 00:32:30.970
they say? Iran, the Muslims were doing this. They're boosting this up, and there's something
00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:37.069
gross about that. If you said very gross on air,
00:32:37.069 --> 00:32:39.910
that would have never been. People would
00:32:39.910 --> 00:32:41.990
take serious issue with it. Interesting that he
00:32:41.990 --> 00:32:45.250
said it was a no-brainer. I don't want
00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:50.349
the decision to execute someone on
00:32:50.349 --> 00:32:53.390
international television effectively to be a
00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:55.910
no-brainer. I'd like to think that this was carefully
00:32:55.910 --> 00:32:59.250
considered. Well, yeah, I want him to get a fair
00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:01.710
trial before the execution. But again, I keep.
00:33:01.789 --> 00:33:05.109
How do you think this came up?
00:33:05.109 --> 00:33:08.859
Obviously. What was the thinking process?
00:33:08.859 --> 00:33:11.119
First of all, there's been, obviously,
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:14.359
there's no rush here. President
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:17.740
Trump has been president for five
00:33:17.740 --> 00:33:21.880
or six years during which this guy was in custody,
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:24.000
and they could have done this. They chose not
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.279
to do it. He's been in there for 19
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:32.259
years, right? Sorry, no, I'm lying, 16
00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:36.089
years. But the point is, the guy's been in the
00:33:36.089 --> 00:33:40.349
clink for nearly two decades. Why now, and why
00:33:40.349 --> 00:33:43.529
firing squad, which hasn't been done since World
00:33:43.529 --> 00:33:46.289
War II, and why public, which hasn't been done
00:33:46.289 --> 00:33:49.609
anywhere for 90 years? And the last time it was
00:33:49.609 --> 00:33:52.269
done, it couldn't have been more racially coded,
00:33:52.269 --> 00:33:55.390
right? It was basically a Jim Crow event
00:33:55.390 --> 00:34:00.720
in the South. Now, this is all,
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:03.160
it's all signaling, right? It's vice signaling, not
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:05.480
virtue signaling. Well, it's also racially coded.
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.239
He's leaning into the fact that the
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:11.099
guy's a Muslim. Yeah, he didn't need to. He should,
00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:13.699
he didn't need to even mention it. He could have
00:34:13.699 --> 00:34:16.599
just said this guy betrayed his country. He killed
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:20.360
his colleagues. Yeah. So, for one
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:22.719
thing, it's the military, so I'm not shocked that
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.380
the military is going to kill somebody that killed
00:34:24.380 --> 00:34:27.440
13 people and wounded X number of soldiers. From the military's point of view, this is justice,
00:34:30.150 --> 00:34:33.650
right? And hence, that's what Hegseth is trying
00:34:33.650 --> 00:34:35.590
to project. This is justice. This is justice.
00:34:36.150 --> 00:34:39.590
But it's weird justice because, again, who asks
00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:42.730
for public execution? The firing squad, again,
00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:45.130
it's the military. I get it. It's a valid organization.
00:34:45.570 --> 00:34:47.289
But also, they haven't done that since World
00:34:47.289 --> 00:34:50.130
War II in the military, right? They've
00:34:50.130 --> 00:34:53.559
used lethal injection. Injection,
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.280
military too? No, he wants us to be public, and
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:58.079
he wants to be a spectacle, and I think part of
00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.719
it is, this is what happens to you when you, it's
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.219
kind of like after January 6th, and they put all
00:35:02.219 --> 00:35:04.139
those people in prison, and they were putting
00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:06.460
those people in the 20 years, and
00:35:06.460 --> 00:35:09.780
harsh sentences, keeping them in. Yeah,
00:35:09.780 --> 00:35:12.480
involuntary, sending a message. Yeah, they were
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.679
sending a message. If you don't fuck with the
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:18.760
state, this is what happens. No quarter given, right?
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:22.000
On some level, Hegseth is doing that. The wild part
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:24.059
about it, though, is he's doing it public. And
00:35:24.059 --> 00:35:26.260
that's the part that I don't get. That's
00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:28.989
the part where I'm very curious. Obviously,
00:35:29.030 --> 00:35:30.650
it has everything to do with the political space.
00:35:31.190 --> 00:35:34.170
They must believe on some level that this gains
00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:37.440
them points. Otherwise, why do it public? There's
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.400
no reason not to. Yeah, there's no reason to.
00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:44.829
He's going to be, do you think they'll back out?
00:35:44.889 --> 00:35:46.630
Do you think they'll back off? Trump
00:35:46.630 --> 00:35:48.469
does back off on things. He threatens things
00:35:48.469 --> 00:35:52.670
and then doesn't do it. They're doing this. No-
00:35:52.670 --> 00:36:01.289
brainer. Yeah, if Hasan has anything he needs
00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:03.409
to take care of, he should take care of it in
00:36:03.409 --> 00:36:06.869
the next few weeks because that's it. In fairness,
00:36:07.230 --> 00:36:11.110
Hegseth is the one pushing for this. He should be
00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:15.619
the one pulling the trigger. Agreed. Well, maybe.
00:36:15.780 --> 00:36:17.239
I don't know. No, I'm serious. I wonder if they'll
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:19.820
ask for, will the soldiers who do this, carry
00:36:19.820 --> 00:36:22.019
this out, will they be ordered to do it, or will
00:36:22.019 --> 00:36:24.619
they ask for volunteers? I think it would be
00:36:24.619 --> 00:36:27.159
cool if Hegseth joined in. I agree with you, Robby.
00:36:27.300 --> 00:36:29.280
The more I think about it, I agree. He knows
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.840
how to use a gun. But that's even more spectacle,
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.460
though, which makes it a little weirder. And
00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:37.059
would Hegseth do it? Hey, why not get Trump in there
00:36:37.059 --> 00:36:39.340
too? Commander-in-chief of the armed forces.
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.579
They were very amped up about it. Why not? Why
00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:46.400
not? But that's the problem with government, though.
00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:49.139
They sit back and they press a button and somebody
00:36:49.139 --> 00:36:51.960
dies. And you never necessarily have any consequences
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:54.219
from the button that they press. Meaning, if there's
00:36:54.219 --> 00:36:56.099
negative consequences from it, they don't take
00:36:56.099 --> 00:36:58.880
the hit for it. The people who carry that stuff
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.239
out take the hit. And that's the sad part because
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:02.900
it means that they're insulated from the choices
00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:05.280
that they make. George Bush is finger painting
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:06.880
right now, despite the fact that he started a
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.340
war. They got all those people killed. The consequences
00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:11.829
never really hit George Bush, despite the fact
00:37:11.829 --> 00:37:13.570
that George Bush is the one that is marshalling
00:37:13.570 --> 00:37:15.369
the money and the time and the manpower, et cetera,
00:37:15.389 --> 00:37:17.909
in order to do the violence. It's so screwed up,
00:37:17.929 --> 00:37:20.070
meaning there's no incentive for George Bush
00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:21.969
not to do it, just like there was no incentive
00:37:21.969 --> 00:37:23.829
for Obama not to do it, just like there was no
00:37:23.829 --> 00:37:26.929
incentive for Trump not to do it. If they had
00:37:26.929 --> 00:37:29.969
incentives, meaning if they had to fight the
00:37:29.969 --> 00:37:32.789
war, they would never do the shit. Just a reminder,
00:37:32.909 --> 00:37:35.750
we need your support. It's payday for a lot of
00:37:35.750 --> 00:37:39.630
you. So if you can throw us a few extra shekels,
00:37:39.630 --> 00:37:44.010
we'd appreciate it. $5 for exclusive shows, $10
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for a closing credit, $20 for exclusive call-
00:37:47.550 --> 00:37:51.809
ins with Jamarl and myself and Robby. Yeah.
00:37:52.989 --> 00:37:55.349
We're not like Kimberly Guilfoyle, where
00:37:55.349 --> 00:37:58.130
we can call a donor and say, please pay our $100,000
00:37:58.130 --> 00:38:04.369
Amex bill. Appreciate that. Okay, so anything
00:38:04.820 --> 00:38:07.000
else to say before we move on to ICE in New York
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:14.440
City? No, I don't think so. We always live upstream
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:18.300
from chaos, meaning from bad choices. We live
00:38:18.300 --> 00:38:20.440
upstream from those bad choices. And oftentimes,
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.820
when we're dealing with the results of it, you
00:38:22.820 --> 00:38:24.679
can't really do anything about the results of
00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:26.800
it because it's a horrible choice that initiated
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:28.599
it. It's almost like you have to go to the source.
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.570
And the reality of it is, you have a point, even
00:38:31.570 --> 00:38:33.090
though I may disagree with you in the context
00:38:33.090 --> 00:38:36.969
of this guy, and whether this is a clean kill.
00:38:36.969 --> 00:38:39.730
I don't like the way that sounds, but I think
00:38:39.730 --> 00:38:43.610
you get my point. A clean case, a clean case,
00:38:43.610 --> 00:38:46.389
and even then, as you point out, it may not be
00:38:46.389 --> 00:38:47.869
a clean case because we don't know what was in
00:38:47.869 --> 00:38:49.730
his mind. But either way, he killed a bunch of
00:38:49.730 --> 00:38:52.090
people. He wounded a bunch of others. He's in the
00:38:52.090 --> 00:38:54.710
military. The military is a violent organization.
00:38:54.710 --> 00:38:58.889
They're going to do what they do, right? But
00:38:58.889 --> 00:39:02.269
the issue, if you're right, has more to do
00:39:02.269 --> 00:39:06.139
with the fact of the wars. The man is downstream
00:39:06.139 --> 00:39:09.599
from the wars, meaning people are going out and
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.320
committing violence. Those people are damaged.
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.480
So we've damaged people in the process of the
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.780
wars. These people who claim, rah, rah, the troops.
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.179
I support the troops. But what they mean is, I
00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:20.659
support the troops going out and killing people
00:39:20.659 --> 00:39:23.219
abroad, which is outrageous. But it's what they
00:39:23.219 --> 00:39:26.860
say. Supporting the troops, to me, is keep them
00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:28.889
at home. I want my cousin at home. I don't want
00:39:28.889 --> 00:39:30.510
my cousin fighting a war. I don't want him damaged
00:39:30.510 --> 00:39:32.349
by killing somebody, nor do I want him damaged
00:39:32.349 --> 00:39:34.110
by getting hit by anything. Support the troops.
00:39:34.150 --> 00:39:36.369
Keep them home, yeah. Keep them home if you love
00:39:36.369 --> 00:39:38.610
the troops. That's not what they mean. That is
00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:40.250
not what they do, especially when they're in
00:39:40.250 --> 00:39:42.670
Congress. When they say support the troops, what
00:39:42.670 --> 00:39:44.929
they mean is support the war. They support the
00:39:44.929 --> 00:39:47.230
wars. They support the wars. How much
00:39:47.230 --> 00:39:49.849
time do people who say support the troops agitate
00:39:49.849 --> 00:39:53.949
for raises or better working conditions for the
00:39:53.949 --> 00:39:57.750
troops? They don't. Or better VA. They
00:39:57.750 --> 00:39:59.909
support the wars. They support those troops.
00:39:59.949 --> 00:40:02.869
Better retirement benefits, whatever. Yeah. And
00:40:02.869 --> 00:40:05.550
I guess my point is, it's the wars that's the
00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:07.730
issue. It's the wars that fucked up the troops.
00:40:07.929 --> 00:40:10.429
It's the wars that those people came back and
00:40:10.429 --> 00:40:12.349
expressed the things that they did when they
00:40:12.349 --> 00:40:13.650
were abroad, or the things that they saw when
00:40:13.650 --> 00:40:16.329
they were abroad. It's those things that influenced
00:40:16.329 --> 00:40:18.909
him to do what he did. The issue is the wars.
00:40:19.210 --> 00:40:23.449
Let's just hope that people who watch the execution
00:40:23.449 --> 00:40:26.980
on live stream, let's just hope they don't
00:40:26.980 --> 00:40:29.179
get traumatized and lose their minds and go on
00:40:29.179 --> 00:40:31.039
a mass killing spree, so we'll have to kill them
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:36.699
on national TV too. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's,
00:40:36.699 --> 00:40:40.639
also this, God, it's also, it's so cheesy
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.639
and grossly, oh, we're going to execute him at
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.920
the same place, at the same time of day, on the
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:51.360
same day of the week as the killings took place. Could
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:55.280
you be any cheesier, Pete? Really trying to make
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.300
a point. It's like the Treaty of Versailles,
00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:02.820
right? Or like when Germany had to sign a surrender
00:41:02.820 --> 00:41:04.960
and they had to, what, in a French phone booth or
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.059
a French rail car, right? Hitler made them do
00:41:09.059 --> 00:41:11.780
that at that rail car. Or Biden wanted to end
00:41:11.780 --> 00:41:14.719
the Afghan war on the anniversary of 9/11. Yeah,
00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:17.340
yeah. I hate that. I think it's what they
00:41:17.340 --> 00:41:21.019
do. It's really cheesy of politics, symbolism of
00:41:21.019 --> 00:41:24.019
politics. I don't think it's, well, this case is
00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:26.409
cheesy just because they are being very dramatic
00:41:26.409 --> 00:41:28.610
about the way they're doing it in relation to
00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:31.329
killing somebody. Pete Hegseth is like such a shrill
00:41:31.329 --> 00:41:34.750
girl. Really. We're going
00:41:34.750 --> 00:41:38.289
to do this, we're going to do that. Okay, Pete,
00:41:38.329 --> 00:41:40.070
calm down. I can't believe he's the Secretary
00:41:40.070 --> 00:41:42.849
of Defense. Every time I see him talk, I think
00:41:42.849 --> 00:41:44.989
to myself, how is this guy the Secretary of Defense?
00:41:46.389 --> 00:41:49.750
I know. Right. Literally, he's in charge
00:41:49.750 --> 00:41:52.849
of the... He's literally the biggest employment
00:41:52.849 --> 00:41:55.210
manager on the planet. He literally supervises
00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:57.949
the organization that hires the most people.
00:41:58.369 --> 00:42:02.590
That guy. That fucking guy. The Fox weekend host.
00:42:03.130 --> 00:42:06.190
That's not in any way gay and is not in any way
00:42:06.190 --> 00:42:10.670
like men. No. He has eyes only for attractive
00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:20.119
women, with breasts and everything. He's working
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:24.139
out next to the sweaty, muscle-bound hunks.
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.699
He's only thinking about tasty, delicious, white,
00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:37.409
non-Muslim women. Okay. So there was a shooting
00:42:37.409 --> 00:42:39.170
yesterday at 4 o'clock in the afternoon here
00:42:39.170 --> 00:42:43.670
in New York. Yesterday. ICE in unmarked vehicles
00:42:43.670 --> 00:42:48.010
surrounded the car of a Dominican guy. He was,
00:42:48.010 --> 00:42:50.550
he had his five-year-old boy in the back seat.
00:42:50.550 --> 00:42:54.130
This happened in the Marble Hill section of
00:42:54.130 --> 00:42:56.510
the, which is better known as sort of South
00:42:56.510 --> 00:42:59.550
Riverdale in the Bronx, which is a nice area
00:42:59.550 --> 00:43:02.889
of the Bronx. People who are not familiar with
00:43:02.889 --> 00:43:04.690
New York City might be thinking of Fort
00:43:04.690 --> 00:43:07.250
Apache, the Bronx, and the old movies from the
00:43:07.250 --> 00:43:10.389
'70s and '80s, but this is not that. This is a very
00:43:10.389 --> 00:43:15.070
quiet, very pretty area right at the confluence
00:43:15.070 --> 00:43:19.070
of the Hudson and Harlem rivers, and right
00:43:19.070 --> 00:43:22.110
next to a commuter rail station. And anyway, they
00:43:22.110 --> 00:43:25.869
surrounded him. It looks, details are still
00:43:25.869 --> 00:43:28.829
coming out, but it looks like he was scared and
00:43:28.829 --> 00:43:31.510
may have tried to leave. In New York
00:43:31.510 --> 00:43:36.389
City, when masked goons in unmarked cars
00:43:36.389 --> 00:43:39.030
try to surround you and try to keep you from
00:43:39.030 --> 00:43:42.349
leaving, you generally are right to assume that
00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:45.789
you're about to be carjacked. And so,
00:43:45.789 --> 00:43:47.449
I wouldn't blame the guy at all for trying to
00:43:47.449 --> 00:43:50.949
leave. There's mixed reports as to whether or
00:43:50.949 --> 00:43:54.329
not he was a real criminal of any sort beyond
00:43:54.329 --> 00:43:58.230
being undocumented. Some say yes, some say no.
00:43:59.409 --> 00:44:03.090
Mayor Zohran Mamdani called President Trump, asked
00:44:03.090 --> 00:44:08.480
him to let this guy go and also to kick
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.719
ICE out of New York City. Obviously, that's not
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:13.639
going to happen, but there's going to be, there's
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.519
going to be protests today. It's going to be a
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.110
spicy weekend in the Bronx, I think. Yeah, I saw
00:44:20.110 --> 00:44:22.010
him surround the car. In fact, I even put the video
00:44:22.010 --> 00:44:27.150
up of them doing it, shooting a guy, because
00:44:27.150 --> 00:44:29.769
I thought they shot the guy. They shot him. He
00:44:29.769 --> 00:44:31.869
went, he's in the hospital now. Yeah, he's in the
00:44:31.869 --> 00:44:33.849
hospital, yeah, and his kid was in the back seat
00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:35.369
of the car, meaning they were going to snatch
00:44:35.369 --> 00:44:36.610
the guy. What were they going to do with the kid
00:44:36.610 --> 00:44:40.889
when they snatched the guy? I don't know. He's
00:44:40.889 --> 00:44:43.929
five years old. Five years old. And I love how
00:44:43.929 --> 00:44:47.369
they said, oh, he's unharmed. Oh, yeah, I'm sure
00:44:47.369 --> 00:44:49.610
he's fucking great. He had a fucking awesome
00:44:49.610 --> 00:44:52.389
Thursday. You talking about the kid? Yeah, the
00:44:52.389 --> 00:44:54.750
kid. Unharmed. I was like, oh, thank God the
00:44:54.750 --> 00:44:57.489
kid is unharmed. Oh, how was your day? Eh, nothing
00:44:57.489 --> 00:44:59.769
much happened at school today. Oh, oh, right.
00:44:59.949 --> 00:45:04.369
Armed goons shot my father almost to
00:45:04.369 --> 00:45:06.849
death while he was driving my car. Oh, right,
00:45:06.929 --> 00:45:10.369
that happened. Otherwise, I'm good. Yeah, the
00:45:10.369 --> 00:45:12.429
kid is perfectly fine after his dad got shot
00:45:12.429 --> 00:45:16.869
by thugs. And even saying, well, the kid's not
00:45:16.869 --> 00:45:20.880
harmed. Well, good, right? The kid shouldn't
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:22.840
be harmed, right? It shouldn't be a situation.
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:25.539
That's a win, I guess, as Pete Hegseth would say.
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:27.619
That's like people saying, well, I take care
00:45:27.619 --> 00:45:29.199
of my kids. Well, they're your kids. You're supposed
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.179
to take care of them. You're not getting any
00:45:31.179 --> 00:45:33.719
credit for that. That's your job, right? Your
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:36.199
job is not to harm a five-year-old child as
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.679
you go about snatching somebody out of the car.
00:45:39.019 --> 00:45:40.619
They probably would have sent the kid to child
00:45:40.619 --> 00:45:43.820
protective services, I would imagine. Yeah, unfortunately,
00:45:43.820 --> 00:45:46.460
yes, as opposed to him being with his father. Yeah,
00:45:46.579 --> 00:45:48.800
there has to be a better way to do this.
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:50.960
This is just an outrageous way of doing this.
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:53.320
And again, I don't even know if the guy was guilty
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.000
per se. I don't even know if the guy's undocumented.
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.159
Is the guy even undocumented? You can't believe
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.559
a word that comes out of this
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.860
administration. But after the way they
00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.739
lied about Alex Pretti and Renee Good,
00:46:04.739 --> 00:46:07.320
who can believe anything these have to say?
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.159
Robby, can you do me a favor and play that
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:16.639
video for us? Oh, right, right. Okay. Yeah, this
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:55.409
was the scene after they shot the guy. Hi, guys.
00:46:55.550 --> 00:46:58.510
You see it happening here. You see it. NYPD fighting
00:46:58.510 --> 00:47:00.809
with protesters. They're trying to put the barricades
00:47:00.809 --> 00:47:10.059
up. Protester on the ground. He's being taken
00:47:10.059 --> 00:47:26.530
away. This is one of those rare times when I
00:47:26.530 --> 00:47:29.630
feel sorry for the cops. NYPD, New York City
00:47:29.630 --> 00:47:32.170
is a sanctuary city. It does not cooperate with
00:47:32.170 --> 00:47:35.130
ICE. It's not allowed to under both Democratic
00:47:35.130 --> 00:47:38.650
and Republican mayoralties. And the NYPD was
00:47:38.650 --> 00:47:41.530
not involved in this, and they did not coordinate
00:47:41.530 --> 00:47:44.690
with ICE. But they have to go. So ICE comes in,
00:47:44.769 --> 00:47:47.969
fucks up a perfectly quiet neighborhood in the
00:47:47.969 --> 00:47:51.150
middle of a quiet, normal day, and now you
00:47:51.150 --> 00:47:53.630
have civil disturbances, and it's up to the NYPD
00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:57.809
to have to handle it. Yeah, that car. I think there
00:47:57.809 --> 00:48:01.530
was a car in another video. They're ramming the
00:48:01.530 --> 00:48:04.030
people to try to get out. The people are
00:48:04.030 --> 00:48:05.690
trying to stop the car from leaving after they
00:48:05.690 --> 00:48:08.389
shoot the guy, and the police car
00:48:08.389 --> 00:48:11.150
or the ICE car is pushing and pushing and pushing,
00:48:11.150 --> 00:48:13.829
and people are trying to put their bodies
00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:16.070
on the car. And I look at that and I said to myself,
00:48:18.429 --> 00:48:20.090
I said, that's great. I love New Yorkers. New
00:48:20.090 --> 00:48:21.269
Yorkers are awesome. That's how people should
00:48:21.269 --> 00:48:25.409
respond. If random
00:48:25.409 --> 00:48:28.429
goons went after, do you remember, I forget the
00:48:28.429 --> 00:48:30.590
city that took place where they raped the guy,
00:48:30.690 --> 00:48:33.329
or they raped the woman in the back. And instead
00:48:33.329 --> 00:48:35.630
of people doing it, they videotaped it. And it's
00:48:35.630 --> 00:48:38.650
like, what the fuck is this? Right? That's not
00:48:38.650 --> 00:48:42.550
a human response. Don't go for your phone. It's okay to video. We
00:48:44.869 --> 00:48:47.050
know the videotaping is incredibly
00:48:47.050 --> 00:48:49.250
powerful, but we also need people to put their
00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:53.489
bodies between right and violence of the state
00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:56.130
and the people. Yeah, when you see this kind of
00:48:56.130 --> 00:49:03.369
deranged goons snatch people
00:49:03.369 --> 00:49:05.809
out of their cars, shoot people in the middle
00:49:05.809 --> 00:49:09.050
of the street. Yeah, that's a normal reaction to
00:49:09.050 --> 00:49:12.420
me. That's how people should behave. It's
00:49:12.420 --> 00:49:14.980
outrageous that they act this way. And if there
00:49:14.980 --> 00:49:16.579
was more pressure from the public, obviously
00:49:16.579 --> 00:49:18.320
the ICE person was terrified because they got
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.539
in the car and was literally at the point of
00:49:20.539 --> 00:49:22.860
running people over in order to get away. They
00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:25.280
were terrified. They should have been terrified.
00:49:26.630 --> 00:49:28.670
They should be terrified. This stuff
00:49:28.670 --> 00:49:32.230
is outrageous. And the only thing that stops
00:49:32.230 --> 00:49:34.150
it, or the only thing that's somewhat of a restraint,
00:49:34.150 --> 00:49:36.670
is the public. Do you know what I don't understand?
00:49:37.369 --> 00:49:42.039
Why there's so much anger about this.
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:50.559
The dude was shot. Yeah, but did y'all
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.320
see what I shared with y'all on the chat yesterday
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.380
about how they could have probably just
00:49:54.380 --> 00:49:56.559
knocked on his window and been like, sir, can you
00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.320
roll down the window? We'd like to talk to you.
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.059
They could have. They could have worn uniforms,
00:50:00.059 --> 00:50:02.579
and they could have had a marked car. They could
00:50:02.579 --> 00:50:06.219
have just, 99 times out of 100, people cooperate,
00:50:06.219 --> 00:50:09.199
and they just go. Of course, though, I get that.
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:13.380
Letter to go to court. Here's my question. This
00:50:13.380 --> 00:50:16.039
guy's getting the protest. Fair enough. Where
00:50:16.039 --> 00:50:17.719
are the protests about the Trump administration?
00:50:18.539 --> 00:50:20.739
I don't know if you saw the articles I sent y'all
00:50:20.739 --> 00:50:25.480
about 250,000 visas being revoked by the
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:28.550
anti-Semitism czar. And these people are going
00:50:28.550 --> 00:50:31.010
to be sent home. And the crime that they committed
00:50:31.010 --> 00:50:35.400
was they came into the country legally to go
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:38.639
to school. And because they oppose a genocide,
00:50:39.530 --> 00:50:41.570
are getting kicked out. But yet you have these
00:50:41.570 --> 00:50:46.820
people here who are tearing up the city because
00:50:46.820 --> 00:50:51.920
a guy who may or may not be illegal, I have no
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:56.219
idea, was shot by law enforcement. Of the two,
00:50:57.030 --> 00:50:59.989
what our government is doing with the attack
00:50:59.989 --> 00:51:02.409
on free speech is much worse. But there's not
00:51:02.409 --> 00:51:05.210
a word about it. Robby, we could talk about
00:51:05.210 --> 00:51:08.389
both. I know, but I'm not talking about you and
00:51:08.389 --> 00:51:10.980
Ted. I'm talking about the man on the
00:51:10.980 --> 00:51:14.159
street. No, we know. We just saw these people out
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.599
there, calling the NYPD fascists and all this
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.019
other stuff. Fair enough. So where are those same
00:51:20.019 --> 00:51:23.059
people when our government is directly attacking
00:51:23.059 --> 00:51:25.079
the First Amendment and the freedom of speech?
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.940
There's nothing, right? Wait, wait a minute, Robby.
00:51:27.940 --> 00:51:31.199
These people saw somebody get shot. I get that.
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:33.300
Somebody gets snatched and put into a car, and
00:51:33.300 --> 00:51:35.440
they're in the moment responding to what they
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.900
saw. So you think that's the difference? That's
00:51:37.900 --> 00:51:39.320
the difference. Yeah, I think there's a difference
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:41.139
because it's happening in the moment. If you
00:51:41.139 --> 00:51:43.400
talk to them outside of this, say you meet them
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.519
at McDonald's and be like, hey, how do you feel
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.639
about this? They may agree with you. They may
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.019
say that's outrageous that the state is doing
00:51:50.019 --> 00:51:52.480
that. They probably would. Politically, they're
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:55.400
the same people, yeah. Yeah, I get it. But why
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:57.340
does one get a protest and the other one doesn't?
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.190
Of the two, the attack on free speech
00:52:00.190 --> 00:52:02.349
is so much worse. I guess I'm trying to make
00:52:02.349 --> 00:52:04.530
the point of, they just watched somebody get shot.
00:52:05.099 --> 00:52:07.119
That's it. And they are responding to the facts.
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:09.920
And by the way, this is... Well, in politics,
00:52:10.019 --> 00:52:12.920
optics are everything. But it's also kind of
00:52:12.920 --> 00:52:15.519
like... I don't want to bring up my ex again,
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:17.820
but I will bring it up. There is a certain person
00:52:17.820 --> 00:52:18.940
that she would bring up that would annoy the
00:52:18.940 --> 00:52:21.559
hell out of me. And she would say innocently,
00:52:21.739 --> 00:52:23.579
well, I just want to have a conversation about
00:52:23.579 --> 00:52:25.639
this. It's like, but dude, we've had this conversation
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:27.460
for years. This conversation has never
00:52:27.460 --> 00:52:29.639
gone well. And the conversation is not just the
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:31.420
conversation that we're having. It's kind of
00:52:31.420 --> 00:52:34.559
that with ICE, right? It's like, we've seen
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:36.619
you kill people in other states. We've seen you
00:52:36.619 --> 00:52:38.079
snatch people off the street in other states.
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:39.840
It's outrageous that you're doing it. And we've
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:41.780
just watched you kill somebody in New York. It's
00:52:41.780 --> 00:52:44.739
not about this individual. It's about the totality
00:52:44.739 --> 00:52:47.119
of it. I agree with you. And yeah, as I pointed
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.599
out, these people will probably agree with you
00:52:48.599 --> 00:53:05.699
about the free speech stuff. It affects many,
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:10.360
many more people. It's about an even more important
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.400
principle, which is the principle of free speech.
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:18.639
But the point is that it's abstract. A bunch
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.159
of people got emails and letters saying that
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:23.579
they were going to have their visas revoked.
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:27.400
That's not the same thing as you went to the
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.340
deli to get a sandwich and armed goons shoot
00:53:30.340 --> 00:53:32.760
a guy in front of his little kid. That's
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:34.980
just, it's just, it's not
00:53:34.980 --> 00:53:39.639
necessarily, I don't know, rational. It's not
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.840
either/or. You can have rage for both.
00:53:42.980 --> 00:53:44.440
They're responding to something that happened
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.980
in the moment. This is something that is happening
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.039
in their neighborhood, right, in front of them.
00:53:50.260 --> 00:53:52.079
It's in front of them. It's just in front of
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.639
them. But it's not like they disagree. Robby's
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:55.920
not wrong. Right. It's not like they disagree
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:57.559
with Robby in this. They probably would agree.
00:53:57.659 --> 00:54:00.519
It's New York. Yeah. And in terms of,
00:54:00.940 --> 00:54:04.099
both deserve the protests, of course, obviously.
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:10.179
All right, so... He's absolutely right about
00:54:10.179 --> 00:54:13.139
that. That's outrageous. We have a First Amendment,
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:17.949
and they are completely raping the First Amendment.
00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:21.590
John Doe's asking me, do I not believe in the
00:54:21.590 --> 00:54:23.769
death penalty? Well, I believe the death penalty
00:54:23.769 --> 00:54:26.610
exists, but I don't think we should have one.
00:54:27.489 --> 00:54:29.650
Because I don't think the state should
00:54:29.650 --> 00:54:32.570
set that low standard of behavior by killing
00:54:32.570 --> 00:54:35.349
people, even though they, in many cases, deserve it.
00:54:35.349 --> 00:54:37.510
Also, do I think our country should have a military?
00:54:37.510 --> 00:54:40.550
Yes, we should have a military large enough to
00:54:40.550 --> 00:54:45.500
defend our borders, no bigger than that. We can,
00:54:45.500 --> 00:54:48.679
if we need more, we can raise one. But yeah,
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:51.780
we should have a purely defensive military.
00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:56.889
Let's see. Five dollars from James Kelly.
00:54:56.889 --> 00:54:58.630
Thank you very much. I agree he should be taken
00:54:58.630 --> 00:55:03.710
out, just taken out. To stream it should not, to
00:55:03.869 --> 00:55:05.789
stream it should not happen. I guess basically,
00:55:05.789 --> 00:55:10.369
kill him but don't stream it. Why not? Whoa, wait.
00:55:10.369 --> 00:55:13.789
I had a conversation with my mom about this last
00:55:13.789 --> 00:55:20.429
night. Yeah. I don't think it should be live, and
00:55:20.429 --> 00:55:23.699
my thing was, why not? Why sanitize it? If
00:55:23.699 --> 00:55:25.340
indeed the state is going to do it. What was
00:55:25.340 --> 00:55:27.519
her answer? It's just that it's, as Robby said
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:29.500
before the show, it's ghoulish, which it is.
00:55:29.500 --> 00:55:32.159
It's protest. Yeah. It's just the idea of murder.
00:55:32.179 --> 00:55:33.760
That's why I want it to be public, because it
00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:35.760
is ghoulish. And that's exactly why I want it
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.960
on public also, because it's happening anyway.
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:45.199
Yeah. It's ours. We should own it. Daniel, do
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:47.079
you guys believe that soldiers who fragged their
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:50.179
officers in the genocidal Vietnam War should
00:55:50.179 --> 00:55:54.989
have been executed too? No. That's an interesting
00:55:54.989 --> 00:55:55.949
question. Well, I don't believe in the death
00:55:55.949 --> 00:55:59.400
penalty, so no. But that's a fascinating question.
00:55:59.500 --> 00:56:03.099
But I can't say that under that system, they
00:56:03.099 --> 00:56:06.420
didn't deserve to be punished. Obviously,
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:09.440
they deserved to be punished under
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:13.860
that system. But are they also
00:56:13.860 --> 00:56:17.699
heroes? Yeah, they were heroes, too. You
00:56:17.699 --> 00:56:19.800
can be a hero who deserved to be punished. When
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:24.230
people are doing horrible things, meaning we
00:56:24.230 --> 00:56:26.849
are the bad guys in Vietnam. We weren't the good
00:56:26.849 --> 00:56:29.630
guys, right? No. And somebody kills the officer.
00:56:29.630 --> 00:56:32.780
It's a guy doing a good thing for killing the
00:56:32.780 --> 00:56:36.719
officer, considering we were the bad guys. Question
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.980
I have. Some people in the chat asking what I'm
00:56:38.980 --> 00:56:41.219
talking about, about Trump's anti-Semitism czar.
00:56:41.219 --> 00:56:43.260
Y'all mind if I play the clip real quick, please?
00:56:43.260 --> 00:56:49.179
Okay, just one second here, because this is,
00:56:49.179 --> 00:56:51.579
this is a place where everyone should be able
00:56:51.579 --> 00:56:55.199
to come on and agree about how bad this is.
00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:57.940
You were the one where I saw this from. I was
00:56:57.940 --> 00:57:01.639
like, I know that story. And I couldn't remember
00:57:01.639 --> 00:57:03.559
why I know this story. You're the one who put
00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:05.599
that up there. Let me see if I can make it work.
00:57:07.349 --> 00:57:22.260
God damn it. That train is weird. There's no
00:57:22.260 --> 00:57:26.329
audio. Well, let's just pretend like we know
00:57:26.329 --> 00:57:28.980
what he's saying. I'll have the Quarter Pounder
00:57:28.980 --> 00:57:33.210
with lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise. What? He said
00:57:33.210 --> 00:57:38.539
Quarter Pounder? While you're doing that, Macadamia,
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.000
thanks for the dollar. Give Pete Hegseth a break.
00:57:41.139 --> 00:57:43.119
Killing Iranian Muslims is turning out to be
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:49.219
harder than I expected. Let him have this. So
00:57:49.219 --> 00:57:51.440
true, right? We got to take our wins where we
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.329
can get them, right? The Muslim thing is very
00:57:55.329 --> 00:58:01.159
disgusting. It's grotesque. It goes to the thing
00:58:01.159 --> 00:58:04.309
of why. Well, it's like, why are they making
00:58:04.309 --> 00:58:06.579
this live? And are they making this live because
00:58:06.579 --> 00:58:08.239
they think they can get some political benefit
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:10.199
out of it? And that would be the only reason
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:11.639
that I think they would do it live. And then
00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:13.420
it's like, okay, but what's the political benefit
00:58:13.420 --> 00:58:17.900
that you're getting out of this? There's a good
00:58:17.900 --> 00:58:19.719
suggestion here from Philip Blair that we should
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.019
bring on Margaret Kimberley, that it would be
00:58:22.019 --> 00:58:25.920
interesting to watch Robby and Jamarl debate
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:31.219
me and Ted. Her and me. I think, yeah,
00:58:31.369 --> 00:58:34.340
I love Margaret. By all means, if we
00:58:34.340 --> 00:58:35.940
can get her, we should have her on just for whatever
00:58:35.940 --> 00:58:40.230
reason. Who is she? I don't know her. Oh, she
00:58:40.230 --> 00:58:42.670
runs Black Agenda Report. She is fantastic. She's
00:58:42.670 --> 00:58:46.949
the editor of Black Agenda Report. If you were
00:58:46.949 --> 00:58:49.710
suddenly surrounded by masked, heavily armed
00:58:49.710 --> 00:58:52.829
men, wouldn't you go into action hero mode? TV
00:58:52.829 --> 00:58:55.789
didn't train you for this moment? Yeah, I would.
00:58:56.909 --> 00:58:59.190
No, let me just say, to the extent that this
00:58:59.190 --> 00:59:02.809
63-year-old guy can do that. Yeah, no,
00:59:02.829 --> 00:59:08.110
if, when I was a cabbie, Brooklyn
00:59:08.110 --> 00:59:11.289
was a very dangerous place in the '80s. And I
00:59:11.289 --> 00:59:13.010
didn't like to go to Brooklyn because it was
00:59:13.010 --> 00:59:15.170
a very dangerous place. And you'd end up with
00:59:15.170 --> 00:59:17.170
an empty cab coming back because nobody ever
00:59:17.170 --> 00:59:19.690
took cabs from Brooklyn to Manhattan. Anyway,
00:59:19.710 --> 00:59:23.230
one time I took, I made a mistake and I took
00:59:23.230 --> 00:59:25.809
someone to Brooklyn. I forget what neighborhood.
00:59:26.329 --> 00:59:29.070
Anyway, the point is there were three or four
00:59:29.070 --> 00:59:32.179
guys blocking the road, all with
00:59:32.179 --> 00:59:34.980
two-by-fours, and they were basically like,
00:59:34.980 --> 00:59:37.159
stop, get out of the car, and give us your money.
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.340
And I was fully cognizant of
00:59:40.340 --> 00:59:43.599
the fact that I was driving a 2,500-pound vehicle,
00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.659
and they were just three or four guys with
00:59:46.659 --> 00:59:49.980
boards. So I rolled down the window and I was
00:59:49.980 --> 00:59:52.820
like, get the fuck out of the way or I'm running right
00:59:52.820 --> 00:59:56.369
over you. And then I just gunned it and went. They
00:59:56.369 --> 00:59:59.409
worked good for everybody, including the damage
00:59:59.409 --> 01:00:01.809
to my car. They jumped out of the way, and I
01:00:01.809 --> 01:00:04.309
was on my way back to Manhattan. But my point
01:00:04.309 --> 01:00:07.849
is, I would never have lost any sleep over killing
01:00:07.849 --> 01:00:12.989
those guys. And it's like, that's, if
01:00:12.989 --> 01:00:16.730
armed masked men surround you, even
01:00:16.730 --> 01:00:19.170
Mayor Mamdani, to his credit, said this yesterday.
01:00:19.469 --> 01:00:21.750
He said there's no difference between random
01:00:21.750 --> 01:00:25.440
unmarked, between ICE and random goons. They
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:28.320
are the same because they don't carry ID. They
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.920
don't present. They don't identify themselves.
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.239
In New York City, if random assholes in vans
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.639
and cars surround you, it is reasonable for you
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.260
to think that very bad things are about to happen
01:00:40.260 --> 01:00:42.719
to you and that you should defend yourself. Yes.
01:00:43.449 --> 01:00:45.949
I think that's reasonable anywhere. But in New
01:00:45.949 --> 01:00:48.309
York City, it's really reasonable. I think they're
01:00:48.309 --> 01:00:49.750
missing your point. Your point is you don't want
01:00:49.750 --> 01:00:51.989
the state doing this. If you have to defend yourself,
01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:55.110
that's different. Totally. I think I've got to
01:00:55.110 --> 01:00:58.409
work. I'm not a pacifist at all. I am not a pacifist.
01:00:59.210 --> 01:01:03.409
Just one second. I got it to work. Okay, great.
01:01:03.530 --> 01:01:07.460
Perfect. We have withdrawn from international
01:01:07.460 --> 01:01:12.949
bodies, and we have reinvigorated hate crime
01:01:12.949 --> 01:01:18.570
prosecutions, and we have worked in an unprecedented
01:01:18.570 --> 01:01:23.130
manner, unprecedented measures. He signed an
01:01:23.130 --> 01:01:28.559
executive order and protected the students on
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:32.309
college campuses. On drugs, that anti-Semitism
01:01:32.309 --> 01:01:34.550
is something that cabinet officials can deal
01:01:34.550 --> 01:01:37.550
with. If you have trouble falling asleep, we've
01:01:37.550 --> 01:01:41.170
implemented a rigorous visa vetting process. Over
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:48.059
250,000 visas have been revoked. We have worked
01:01:48.059 --> 01:01:52.570
with countries to educate in their curriculum
01:01:52.570 --> 01:01:56.489
to not hate. We have withdrawn from international
01:01:56.489 --> 01:02:01.070
bodies. Okay, we heard that part. And we have reinvigorated
01:02:01.070 --> 01:02:04.590
hate crime prosecutions. I wouldn't know what
01:02:04.590 --> 01:02:08.920
hate speech is. And we have an unprecedented...
01:02:09.269 --> 01:02:12.869
The idea that the only hate that they're
01:02:12.869 --> 01:02:18.429
talking about is obviously against Jews, while
01:02:18.429 --> 01:02:22.469
I assume that there is some hatred for Jews. The
01:02:22.469 --> 01:02:24.449
idea that this is out of the blue is nonsense.
01:02:24.449 --> 01:02:28.150
Israel is committing a genocide. They call
01:02:28.150 --> 01:02:30.050
themselves a Jewish state as they commit that
01:02:30.050 --> 01:02:33.250
genocide. Some people, not entirely paying attention,
01:02:33.570 --> 01:02:38.570
may conflate Judaism with the genocide. What
01:02:38.570 --> 01:02:40.250
was taking place on the college campuses, although
01:02:40.250 --> 01:02:43.590
far fewer than you would expect given the situation.
01:02:43.949 --> 01:02:48.130
Yes. Agree. Meaning it's not like
01:02:48.130 --> 01:02:49.889
people were getting beat up at college campuses
01:02:49.889 --> 01:02:51.349
in the way that these people are talking about.
01:02:52.130 --> 01:02:55.690
Nonsense. There's literally, there is
01:02:55.690 --> 01:02:58.349
no, let's move this way. I don't want
01:02:58.349 --> 01:03:00.130
to sound like the people who say there is no
01:03:00.130 --> 01:03:02.380
genocide, because there's certainly a genocide,
01:03:02.380 --> 01:03:08.079
but there kind of is no campus anti-Semitism
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:12.050
surge. Yeah, there may have
01:03:12.050 --> 01:03:13.449
been some. There may have been some incidents
01:03:13.449 --> 01:03:16.829
here and there, but there's certainly no trend
01:03:16.829 --> 01:03:19.690
toward greater anti-Semitism on American college
01:03:19.690 --> 01:03:22.070
and university campuses. That's just not true.
01:03:22.070 --> 01:03:25.489
Yeah, I know. By the premise, I agree. Agree. I don't
01:03:25.489 --> 01:03:28.730
doubt that random events happen, but they're not
01:03:28.730 --> 01:03:31.579
systemic, and it's not like there's this massive
01:03:31.579 --> 01:03:34.440
swath of people going after Jews. I don't buy
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:37.179
that. Not enough to justify any change in policy
01:03:37.179 --> 01:03:40.000
or behavior. Let's put it that way. Yeah, those
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.309
schools should afford it, as opposed to just
01:03:42.309 --> 01:03:43.869
kind of bending over and acquiescing to it. They
01:03:43.869 --> 01:03:45.190
should afford it. But you've got to remember,
01:03:45.289 --> 01:03:50.030
this is obviously not America First. They're
01:03:50.030 --> 01:03:52.570
literally, just like Robby said, going after
01:03:52.570 --> 01:03:55.829
free speech of people who may have said something
01:03:55.829 --> 01:03:57.489
about a genocide. I don't like the fact that
01:03:57.489 --> 01:03:59.070
they're murdering women and children. All right,
01:03:59.070 --> 01:04:00.449
we're going to stop you and revoke your visa.
01:04:00.860 --> 01:04:03.599
You've got to remember, they're using the ADL's definition
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:08.300
of anti-Semitism, which conflates criticism of
01:04:08.300 --> 01:04:11.440
the state of Israel. They say it is the
01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:13.960
Jewish state, and if you criticize the Jewish
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:17.559
state, by virtue of that criticism, you're
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:19.300
an anti-Semite. That's where this is coming from.
01:04:19.300 --> 01:04:23.559
True anti-Semite, like a neo-Nazi and all that.
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:25.840
I'm not so sure they need to get a visa
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:28.260
to come here as a tourist or as a student,
01:04:28.260 --> 01:04:30.860
but I would say the same thing about someone
01:04:30.860 --> 01:04:33.579
who expressed any kind of ethnic hate of any
01:04:33.579 --> 01:04:37.800
kind, anti-Black, anti-white, anti-Hispanic,
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:39.780
whatever. It's like, I don't really know if we
01:04:39.780 --> 01:04:43.139
need those people, but there's no special exception
01:04:43.139 --> 01:04:46.360
for anti-Semitism, and I also, and anti-Zionism
01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:51.179
does not count. I want to see mass protests over
01:04:51.179 --> 01:04:54.280
crap like this. That's what matters, because this
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:57.300
is an attack on every single person in this country.
01:04:57.300 --> 01:05:00.800
If you have free speech, you've got nothing at
01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.860
that point, and that's what this is. But those
01:05:03.860 --> 01:05:06.360
people aren't Americans. Those people need visas
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.510
to come here. Yeah, I know. And they anticipate,
01:05:10.510 --> 01:05:13.050
this point, multiple times. You have the right
01:05:13.050 --> 01:05:16.489
to constitutional protections in this country.
01:05:16.710 --> 01:05:19.409
And one of those things is to be able to say,
01:05:19.469 --> 01:05:23.630
I oppose this. This is wrong. You do not get
01:05:23.630 --> 01:05:27.289
to go through and kill 140,000 people. Robby,
01:05:27.489 --> 01:05:29.809
to get people to show up to a protest demonstration,
01:05:30.070 --> 01:05:32.610
as you know, whether you're on the right or on
01:05:32.610 --> 01:05:36.190
the left, it's arbitrary. You can lead
01:05:36.190 --> 01:05:39.130
a horse to a protest, but you can't make him
01:05:39.130 --> 01:05:41.670
show up, right? You had one last night of a Dominican
01:05:41.670 --> 01:05:44.190
guy getting shot. Don't feed me that. Well, that
01:05:44.190 --> 01:05:47.650
was not an organized protest, okay? That's not
01:05:47.650 --> 01:05:50.789
one of those things where, hey, next Saturday,
01:05:50.949 --> 01:05:54.230
everybody go, 10 o'clock, be there, be square.
01:05:54.530 --> 01:05:57.920
This is a spontaneous eruption on the streets
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.119
of a densely populated city. That's not,
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.219
it's not the same thing. So if you go on Facebook
01:06:04.219 --> 01:06:06.320
or you put flyers up in the neighborhood and
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.179
you say, everybody, hey, let's protest
01:06:09.179 --> 01:06:13.119
the 250,000 visas denied to people who were
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:16.360
critics of Israel, you might get millions of people
01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.619
to show up. You might not. It's like,
01:06:18.619 --> 01:06:22.280
just people who, street organizers who
01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:25.440
are engaged in this, they know how hard it is
01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:30.099
to get people to show up. And so,
01:06:30.099 --> 01:06:33.599
it's like, you can say, well, people, I have all sorts
01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:35.920
of issues that I think people should be up in
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:38.179
arms about, not least of which would be
01:06:38.179 --> 01:06:39.639
the fact that there's no health care in this
01:06:39.639 --> 01:06:42.480
country, but they're not. What
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:44.980
Ted Rall wants is good. Well, that'll
01:06:44.980 --> 01:06:48.920
get one person there. Maybe that's about it.
01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:52.130
So you get two, I'm sure. Maybe two. All right.
01:06:52.150 --> 01:06:55.329
Thank you, JT. I appreciate you. All right. So
01:06:55.329 --> 01:06:57.349
we're in the second hour here. We go to 11
01:06:57.349 --> 01:07:00.510
o'clock. It's 10:07 here on the East Coast. So
01:07:00.510 --> 01:07:03.829
we're now sort of in the Q&A part of the show.
01:07:03.909 --> 01:07:06.050
We're going to continue to bring you up to date
01:07:06.050 --> 01:07:07.949
on the news. And thank you so much for joining
01:07:07.949 --> 01:07:12.230
us. But questions, particularly the paid ones,
01:07:12.429 --> 01:07:14.809
are going to get priority here. That would be
01:07:14.809 --> 01:07:17.449
the Rumble Rants and the Super Chats on YouTube.
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:20.639
And we'll take a few questions and we'll move
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:25.940
on to this story about the latest
01:07:25.940 --> 01:07:28.820
from the Iran war. So, okay, let's see what we got
01:07:28.820 --> 01:07:32.699
here. If you were, oh yeah, you already got that
01:07:32.699 --> 01:07:35.719
one, Robby. I want you to notice this. Bad Cookies,
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:38.980
your xenophobia is what causes this iteration
01:07:38.980 --> 01:07:43.739
of ICE. There are others like you, Robby, in the
01:07:43.739 --> 01:07:48.139
USA who love that ICE is offing Americans. They
01:07:48.139 --> 01:07:51.900
call those victims traitors. Probably you deserve
01:07:51.900 --> 01:07:56.449
the right to answer that. I have nowhere to start
01:07:56.449 --> 01:07:59.630
because I have said multiple times, Trump is doing
01:07:59.630 --> 01:08:02.190
the right thing the wrong way. I support mass
01:08:02.190 --> 01:08:04.750
deportations. I oppose the ICE is doing, and I oppose
01:08:04.750 --> 01:08:08.329
the militarized police force. So, Bad Cookies,
01:08:08.329 --> 01:08:10.510
I don't know what you're smoking, but you may
01:08:10.510 --> 01:08:16.979
want to up your dose. Okay, then. All right.
01:08:18.130 --> 01:08:21.909
The Pentagon has been asked by Donald Trump to
01:08:21.909 --> 01:08:27.090
develop a three-day plan to bomb Iranian drone
01:08:27.090 --> 01:08:30.310
and missile and energy facilities as well as
01:08:30.310 --> 01:08:34.090
military targets. But whenever they get close
01:08:34.090 --> 01:08:37.590
to doing it, they don't do it. And Trump just
01:08:37.590 --> 01:08:39.689
decides like, okay, well, okay, maybe later.
01:08:40.310 --> 01:08:44.829
Also, the Houthis have been hitting Riyadh. And
01:08:44.829 --> 01:08:47.989
it turns out we've lost a lot more. As you know,
01:08:47.989 --> 01:08:50.250
Jamarl, you've mentioned many times here on the
01:08:50.250 --> 01:08:53.550
program, there's been a lot more damage to
01:08:53.550 --> 01:08:56.989
American facilities, including military aircraft
01:08:56.989 --> 01:09:00.210
and drones and so on, than has been previously
01:09:00.210 --> 01:09:03.989
uncovered, revealed. Senator Chris Murphy, Democrat
01:09:03.989 --> 01:09:07.069
of Connecticut, says that the Pentagon is covering
01:09:07.069 --> 01:09:09.590
things up, slow-walking the reports, trying to
01:09:09.590 --> 01:09:12.130
minimize the damage, even downplaying the number
01:09:12.130 --> 01:09:14.850
of U.S. casual, physical casualties that we're
01:09:14.850 --> 01:09:17.819
suffering among servicemen and service-
01:09:17.819 --> 01:09:22.699
women. So what is this? What do you think
01:09:22.699 --> 01:09:25.600
is on the president's mind? Clearly, he knows that
01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.300
the war is wildly unpopular. Eight out of ten,
01:09:29.300 --> 01:09:31.619
America, sorry, seven out of ten Americans are
01:09:31.619 --> 01:09:35.529
against it. That includes a lot of Republicans.
01:09:35.529 --> 01:09:38.229
You can see people turning against the Republicans
01:09:38.229 --> 01:09:40.930
in the midterms in large part because of this
01:09:40.930 --> 01:09:44.170
war that's taken all of his attention while he's
01:09:44.170 --> 01:09:49.109
ignoring the affordability crisis. Why is he
01:09:49.109 --> 01:09:52.510
kicking this can down? Well, first of all, is he
01:09:52.510 --> 01:09:55.529
really going to kick the can down the road toward
01:09:55.529 --> 01:09:58.069
the midterms, or might he decide, could this be
01:09:58.069 --> 01:10:00.109
deflection, and then there'll be a sneak
01:10:00.109 --> 01:10:04.930
attack? And hasn't he already hit everything?
01:10:04.930 --> 01:10:06.949
That he's going to hit. This war has been going
01:10:06.949 --> 01:10:09.250
on for months. U.S. and Israel's been bombing
01:10:09.250 --> 01:10:13.069
the hell out of Iran. What did they forget? Something.
01:10:13.069 --> 01:10:15.350
Did they leave something for later
01:10:15.350 --> 01:10:17.670
on purpose? How does this make any sense?
01:10:17.670 --> 01:10:20.350
Well, there are other schools. There are other
01:10:20.350 --> 01:10:24.369
weddings. So, yeah, good point. Other targets.
01:10:24.369 --> 01:10:29.000
I do, look, I think Trump will
01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:32.359
start bombing back. They're wildly apart in regards
01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:34.539
to any kind of deal, any kind of agreement. And
01:10:34.539 --> 01:10:36.399
the fact of the matter is, how could Iran trust
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:42.239
anything coming out of Trump's mouth? The U.S.
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:44.779
can't even make deals with countries that are
01:10:44.779 --> 01:10:48.340
equals, right, that Donald Trump actually respects
01:10:48.340 --> 01:10:51.800
on some level, like Russia or China. He's not
01:10:51.800 --> 01:10:53.659
going to make a deal with a country that he doesn't
01:10:53.659 --> 01:10:56.319
respect, right? And from Trump's point of view,
01:10:56.439 --> 01:10:58.199
we spend a trillion dollars on the military.
01:10:58.439 --> 01:11:00.590
They spend a fraction of that. They're a smaller
01:11:00.590 --> 01:11:03.029
country. They should be able, we should be able
01:11:03.029 --> 01:11:05.550
to win that. That's the way he looks at it. And
01:11:05.550 --> 01:11:07.090
so he's doing everything by hook or by crook
01:11:07.090 --> 01:11:09.869
to try to get some kind of advantage and try
01:11:09.869 --> 01:11:12.130
to, quote, win it. The problem that he's having
01:11:12.130 --> 01:11:16.310
is there's no military solution, right? So it's
01:11:16.310 --> 01:11:17.949
like, okay, there's no military solution. So
01:11:17.949 --> 01:11:19.470
what do you do as Donald Trump? You started a
01:11:19.470 --> 01:11:21.510
war. You don't want to back out of that war because
01:11:21.510 --> 01:11:24.489
everybody's going to scream that you lost. And
01:11:24.489 --> 01:11:27.449
so you keep being engaged. In one sense, you
01:11:27.449 --> 01:11:31.510
try to back away from it. But Iran is still hitting
01:11:31.510 --> 01:11:34.010
ships as the ships are trying to transit the
01:11:34.010 --> 01:11:37.869
Strait of Hormuz. And it makes you look very
01:11:37.869 --> 01:11:39.850
weak. It makes you look like you've lost the
01:11:39.850 --> 01:11:43.720
war. And so he just stays still. You can't go
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.979
forward. Coming backward doesn't seem to be an
01:11:45.979 --> 01:11:48.819
option. Standing still ultimately kills your
01:11:48.819 --> 01:11:51.800
economy. You have to do something. And so Donald
01:11:51.800 --> 01:11:55.319
Trump, who is not going to accept the MOU, is
01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:56.779
probably going to go back to bombing, despite
01:11:56.779 --> 01:11:59.439
the fact that bombing wasn't a solution that
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.279
solved the issue. In fact, it just made the issue
01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:04.460
worse. And knowing full well that if he goes
01:12:04.460 --> 01:12:08.000
too far, Iran's response could be withering.
01:12:08.750 --> 01:12:12.289
So what is a president to do? And I suspect he's
01:12:12.289 --> 01:12:13.850
going to go on a bombing campaign that tries
01:12:13.850 --> 01:12:17.800
to minimize... Well, we'll see. He's definitely
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.420
going to go on a bombing campaign again. The
01:12:20.420 --> 01:12:22.840
catch becomes, what is the extent of that bombing
01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:24.880
campaign? Because if he goes too far... And the
01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:28.569
timing. And the timing of it. Yeah. But I think
01:12:28.569 --> 01:12:30.329
it's going to happen. It's just a matter of when.
01:12:30.449 --> 01:12:34.210
He may be dithering now because he realizes, or
01:12:34.210 --> 01:12:36.229
probably realized, that there's no military solution
01:12:36.229 --> 01:12:39.850
to it. And he may even on some level think, maybe
01:12:39.850 --> 01:12:42.489
if I wait for the midterms, maybe if I wait for
01:12:42.489 --> 01:12:44.029
the midterms, they won't turn out to be that
01:12:44.029 --> 01:12:47.770
bad. But I think he has the, well, to be honest,
01:12:47.810 --> 01:12:50.380
I don't know what's in his mind. Rational man
01:12:50.380 --> 01:12:54.000
would understand. Does he know what's in his
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.380
mind? Well, there's that too. I'm not
01:12:58.380 --> 01:13:01.159
even kidding. Pursuant to our conversation earlier
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:05.300
about the death penalty and Hasan, if Donald
01:13:05.300 --> 01:13:08.800
Trump picked up a gun and went on a rampage in
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:10.560
the White House and killed a bunch of people,
01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:15.039
I'm not sure he should be convicted because I
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.489
think he is insane now. You know what's funny
01:13:18.489 --> 01:13:21.750
about that? Lawrence O'Donnell was doing a monologue.
01:13:22.220 --> 01:13:24.279
And Lawrence O'Donnell says the president is
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:26.579
insane. The president is out of his mind. People
01:13:26.579 --> 01:13:28.399
should say the president is out of his mind.
01:13:28.500 --> 01:13:30.439
And yet nobody would say the president is out
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:33.220
of his mind. And that should be the biggest story
01:13:33.220 --> 01:13:35.199
in the world, that the president is out of his
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:38.079
mind. And I thought to myself, he's right. Dude, you are one of these people backing Joe
01:13:41.329 --> 01:13:46.090
Biden, the Democratic Party. The Democrat
01:13:46.090 --> 01:13:47.949
is making that argument. In fact, I was going
01:13:47.949 --> 01:13:49.829
to cut that clip to do a video on that clip.
01:13:50.090 --> 01:13:52.970
That's how, wow, to me, that's right now. But
01:13:52.970 --> 01:13:55.130
the problem is he has no standing because he
01:13:55.130 --> 01:13:58.340
has no standing. That's why nobody does it. Do
01:13:58.340 --> 01:14:02.039
you know how much abuse those of us who are complaining
01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:06.140
about Joe Biden's lunacy for four years,
01:14:06.140 --> 01:14:09.920
from the left, how much abuse we got? I
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.539
mean, it was like, oh, what, you want Donald
01:14:12.539 --> 01:14:15.479
Trump? Is that what you want? And I was like, the
01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:18.880
man is insane. I would say the same thing about
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.949
if Bernie Sanders got in there and was behaving
01:14:21.949 --> 01:14:24.510
the way Joe Biden was acting, I would have said
01:14:24.510 --> 01:14:26.430
the same thing, that he should be removed under
01:14:26.430 --> 01:14:30.090
the 25th Amendment, that he was insane. It's
01:14:30.090 --> 01:14:33.359
like, integrity calls for putting your country
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:36.260
and your party above. You're like,
01:14:36.380 --> 01:14:38.779
well, this is my team. And yeah, he's
01:14:38.779 --> 01:14:40.720
got a few advisors in there who are really running
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.399
the show. It's insane. And I
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.000
said this at the time, Democrats are
01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.380
going to lose their standing to criticize a future
01:14:48.380 --> 01:14:51.779
Republican president who's incapacitated. And
01:14:51.779 --> 01:14:55.619
here we are already. Yep. And you were absolutely
01:14:55.619 --> 01:14:57.720
right. Because I watched the video and I thought
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:00.699
to myself, who the hell are you? I just thought
01:15:00.699 --> 01:15:04.380
about something. He is right. It should be the
01:15:04.380 --> 01:15:06.439
biggest story in the world, like it should have
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:10.699
been in 2021. Yes. Yeah. I was amazed by that
01:15:10.699 --> 01:15:12.539
argument because I'm sitting there like, dude,
01:15:12.699 --> 01:15:16.399
you guys protected Joe Biden like nobody's business.
01:15:16.659 --> 01:15:19.460
And now Donald Trump is in there clearly insane.
01:15:20.390 --> 01:15:23.390
Yeah. And it's very hard for anybody to say it
01:15:23.390 --> 01:15:26.210
because saying it is immediate hypocrisy of the
01:15:26.210 --> 01:15:29.779
previous administration. It's just wild to hear
01:15:29.779 --> 01:15:31.420
him make that argument. Yeah, he's right.
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:34.479
I have a question for y'all. Do y'all think
01:15:34.479 --> 01:15:36.239
that Trump and his administration is more pissed
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:39.579
off about Iran holding the world economy hostage,
01:15:39.579 --> 01:15:43.600
or about the Lego videos? Of the two, which one
01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:45.460
do y'all think? Serious question. Which one
01:15:45.460 --> 01:15:48.359
pisses them off the most? Probably the Lego videos.
01:15:48.560 --> 01:15:52.819
It's the Lego videos. Oh, 100%. Yeah, he doesn't
01:15:52.819 --> 01:15:55.100
care. I think you're right. It's all about ego
01:15:55.100 --> 01:15:58.399
with them. He cannot admit that he lost the war.
01:15:59.779 --> 01:16:03.279
That's exactly it. It was hilarious. Marco Rubio's
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:05.560
like, keep making those stupid Lego videos. He's
01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:08.119
like, oh, it's under your skin. It's under your
01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:12.010
skin. Yeah, yeah. The Lego videos are awesome.
01:16:12.449 --> 01:16:18.750
Oh, my God. He learned to fly on television.
01:16:20.949 --> 01:16:25.159
Oh, my God. All right, so. Again, we're taking
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:27.180
your questions. It's the Q&A portion of the
01:16:27.180 --> 01:16:32.600
show. Okay, here we go. We need all of your contributions.
01:16:33.140 --> 01:16:35.680
Philip Blair, Robby is speaking out of economic
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:40.020
fear. Bad Cookies, Robby is based, except when
01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:42.239
he speaks out of fear. Fear blocks thinking,
01:16:42.460 --> 01:16:46.000
fear blocks compassion. Fear is the mind-killer.
01:16:48.430 --> 01:16:52.470
I agree with, generally, that fear is very bad.
01:16:52.470 --> 01:16:55.590
Fear. I will let fear pass through me. I will
01:16:55.590 --> 01:16:58.270
not be uncomfortable. Oh, that's Bene Gesserit.
01:16:58.729 --> 01:17:02.329
Bad Cookies. Oh, I agree. It's that fear that
01:17:02.329 --> 01:17:04.630
feeds his xenophobia. It's that fear the system
01:17:04.630 --> 01:17:07.970
uses to enact their Gestapo. Hence, Robby should
01:17:07.970 --> 01:17:10.310
own it. It's his people that gives ICE credence.
01:17:10.670 --> 01:17:13.310
Okay, we've been through all that. Okay, there's
01:17:13.310 --> 01:17:16.500
more put back and forth on Robby. Poor Robby,
01:17:16.500 --> 01:17:19.420
having to defend himself here, but he can handle
01:17:19.420 --> 01:17:22.739
it. I love being psychoanalyzed by people on
01:17:22.739 --> 01:17:28.140
the internet. It's always funny. It's
01:17:28.140 --> 01:17:32.020
awesome. Well, the thing is, does fear play a
01:17:32.020 --> 01:17:35.640
part into it? Yeah, because if there is an economic
01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:38.300
collapse, and if you have a country of 360 million
01:17:38.300 --> 01:17:42.739
people, and it falls apart, what happens then?
01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.920
A lot of people are going to die. A lot of people
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.340
are going to die. And one of the ways that we
01:17:48.340 --> 01:17:50.819
have, one of the tools that we have to fix that
01:17:50.819 --> 01:17:54.279
problem is increasing wages so it keeps up with
01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:57.359
the cost of living. As long as you have mass
01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:00.890
immigration, both legal and illegal, you are
01:18:00.890 --> 01:18:03.590
never going to have a wage increase to match
01:18:03.590 --> 01:18:07.600
the cost of living. That's not me being xenophobic.
01:18:07.819 --> 01:18:12.119
That's math. The math is a racist. So, yeah, is
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:15.359
there some fear there? 100%. I
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:17.079
have an 18-year-old daughter and a 17-year-old
01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:21.170
son. You bet your butt I'm afraid. I'd have no
01:18:21.170 --> 01:18:22.550
idea what kind of country would be, that
01:18:22.550 --> 01:18:24.210
they're going to inherit. I don't know the country's
01:18:24.210 --> 01:18:27.880
going to exist. And if it does, I don't, be split
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:30.939
apart with a bunch of warring tribes. That's the
01:18:30.939 --> 01:18:35.609
last thing I want. So, yeah, am I worried? You bet
01:18:35.609 --> 01:18:38.329
your sweet butt about it. But it's not about xenophobia.
01:18:38.939 --> 01:18:40.920
It's about the mismanagement of our country and
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:43.100
the fact that our government puts every other
01:18:43.100 --> 01:18:47.380
special interest group on this planet first over
01:18:47.380 --> 01:18:53.840
the American people. You bet your butt. Okay,
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:59.060
then. So, just a reminder, and we do need your
01:18:59.060 --> 01:19:01.880
support, so if you are so inclined, blah, blah,
01:19:01.899 --> 01:19:06.399
blah. Okay, the Trump administration, and I suspect
01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:10.289
Robby will have things to say about this, is
01:19:10.289 --> 01:19:12.729
going after H-1B visa holders. And I think there's
01:19:12.729 --> 01:19:14.689
more to this story than just the usual immigration
01:19:14.689 --> 01:19:18.890
debate. J.D. Vance is basically the talking point
01:19:18.890 --> 01:19:23.130
on this. He said that companies like Adobe and
01:19:23.130 --> 01:19:28.529
Microsoft and IT outsourcing firms are abusing
01:19:28.529 --> 01:19:32.090
the green card, H-1B, and the H-1B visa programs
01:19:32.090 --> 01:19:35.369
to replace American workers, quote, with what
01:19:35.369 --> 01:19:38.890
is effectively foreign indentured servants. Also,
01:19:38.890 --> 01:19:42.170
at the same press conference, Vance and other
01:19:42.170 --> 01:19:45.090
officials announced investigations into nine
01:19:45.090 --> 01:19:47.890
major universities like Harvard, Yale, and Stanford
01:19:47.890 --> 01:19:53.149
that they said basically were bringing people
01:19:53.149 --> 01:19:56.729
in to study, allegedly, like, hey, you're welcome
01:19:56.729 --> 01:19:58.770
to come here for two or three or four years or
01:19:58.770 --> 01:20:01.590
whatever, and then basically setting them up
01:20:01.590 --> 01:20:04.850
to work rather than sending them back home afterwards.
01:20:06.409 --> 01:20:10.930
This is all true. This is absolutely all
01:20:10.930 --> 01:20:14.909
true, and Vance is right about all this. And
01:20:14.909 --> 01:20:17.130
I don't know how much political resonance
01:20:17.130 --> 01:20:21.090
it has, but it's all true, and it's disgusting
01:20:21.090 --> 01:20:23.890
at a time of high unemployment and underemployment
01:20:23.890 --> 01:20:27.649
and systemic underemployment. I thought
01:20:27.649 --> 01:20:30.890
we have to talk about the reality
01:20:30.890 --> 01:20:33.369
of it. We have to talk about the politics of it
01:20:33.369 --> 01:20:37.569
too. I was thinking, Vance is now looking
01:20:37.569 --> 01:20:40.670
ahead towards his presidential campaign, right?
01:20:40.770 --> 01:20:43.710
And the question is, what is he going to have
01:20:43.710 --> 01:20:47.569
to point at? I think this is that. I think that
01:20:47.569 --> 01:20:50.649
he's going to try to position himself as much
01:20:50.649 --> 01:20:53.590
as he can under the shadow of Donald Trump as
01:20:53.590 --> 01:20:58.289
the America First reset. He's the heir of MAGA.
01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:02.939
But he's more suspicious of the foreign entanglements
01:21:02.939 --> 01:21:05.479
and the neoconservatism of people like Marco
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:09.579
Rubio. And this is all about signifying. This
01:21:09.579 --> 01:21:13.199
is why he's at the microphone. We're doing this.
01:21:13.279 --> 01:21:15.880
We're going after the H-1B, people who are taking
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.800
American jobs. We're going after these giant
01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:22.359
corporations, which are exploiting American workers,
01:21:22.539 --> 01:21:24.399
as well as foreigners who are coming to work
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:30.699
for too little. I think it's a pretty smart play,
01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:36.020
personally. Yeah, agree. He's doing
01:21:36.020 --> 01:21:38.140
what he said, or he's doing what Trump said he
01:21:38.140 --> 01:21:40.939
was going to do, kind of like this is an America
01:21:40.939 --> 01:21:45.609
First policy that is being effectively led by
01:21:45.609 --> 01:21:48.289
J.D. Vance. They used to do it in
01:21:48.289 --> 01:21:49.729
the Biden administration. They tried to with
01:21:49.729 --> 01:21:52.369
Harris, where she was like, the border czar. That
01:21:52.369 --> 01:21:54.409
was supposed to be her thing. Right. And that's
01:21:54.409 --> 01:21:56.470
what they do. They set up the VP in order to
01:21:56.470 --> 01:21:58.430
be able to run later on. Hillary Clinton, in
01:21:58.430 --> 01:22:00.710
her case, was secretary of state, but she was
01:22:00.710 --> 01:22:04.090
also set up to run. She did her two years. She
01:22:04.090 --> 01:22:05.989
had an 80 approval rating while she was
01:22:05.989 --> 01:22:08.310
the secretary of state, and then she runs, and
01:22:08.310 --> 01:22:11.270
of course it goes into the toilet. But Obama set
01:22:11.270 --> 01:22:13.689
her up to run also. This is kind of what
01:22:13.689 --> 01:22:16.130
presidents do. So this is kind of a signal that
01:22:16.130 --> 01:22:17.869
J.D. Vance most likely is going to run for the
01:22:17.869 --> 01:22:21.229
presidency at the end of Trump's term. And
01:22:21.229 --> 01:22:24.250
it's a good policy, right? In fact,
01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:27.180
it's kind of a good policy. It's a good policy
01:22:27.180 --> 01:22:30.880
if you had free college for Americans, or if you
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.439
had college that was deeply reduced in
01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:36.819
costs, or if you had public colleges
01:22:36.819 --> 01:22:39.039
where people can go for inexpensive or not much
01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:41.439
money. Then the reason why I say that is, ultimately,
01:22:41.439 --> 01:22:43.399
what you want is Americans taking those jobs.
01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:45.659
But if you want Americans to take those jobs,
01:22:45.659 --> 01:22:48.500
Americans have to be educated to take those jobs.
01:22:49.149 --> 01:22:51.109
And if Americans are not educated to take those
01:22:51.109 --> 01:22:53.189
jobs, then there will be holes in those jobs.
01:22:53.350 --> 01:22:54.930
It's like, okay, well, how do you get Americans
01:22:54.930 --> 01:22:56.770
to be educated for the jobs? Well, you have to
01:22:56.770 --> 01:22:58.470
make college affordable in a way that they will
01:22:58.470 --> 01:23:00.949
be able to get the slots to get the education
01:23:00.949 --> 01:23:04.350
to get the jobs, as opposed to just saying, well,
01:23:04.449 --> 01:23:07.239
we're just importing indentured servants. Right.
01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:10.479
You can't have it both ways. There will be shortages
01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:15.000
in positions if indeed you don't have a decent
01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:16.960
education system to get people in a position
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:19.220
to be able to take the positions that you need
01:23:19.220 --> 01:23:22.439
them for. And so it's not that I disagree with
01:23:22.439 --> 01:23:25.439
the position. I just, I agree what he's doing. Americans
01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:28.979
can do those jobs in a position to be able to
01:23:28.979 --> 01:23:32.640
do them. I agree with everything you just said,
01:23:32.640 --> 01:23:35.680
and I would add also as a supplement that
01:23:35.680 --> 01:23:38.600
there could be some tax incentives for
01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:42.140
corporations to train workers. A lot of times,
01:23:42.140 --> 01:23:44.880
it's not like colleges don't
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:47.729
really train people to do a lot of jobs. They
01:23:47.729 --> 01:23:50.489
educate them, but they don't train them. But,
01:23:50.489 --> 01:23:53.149
seriously, I would have no problem with
01:23:53.149 --> 01:23:56.770
giving companies tax breaks to
01:23:56.770 --> 01:24:00.729
fund paid internships and apprenticeships
01:24:00.729 --> 01:24:03.630
and so on to bring people on. Like, hey, this is
01:24:03.630 --> 01:24:06.210
a training program. You'll work here for a year.
01:24:06.210 --> 01:24:08.829
You're acknowledging the fact that while
01:24:08.829 --> 01:24:11.189
a company is training someone, they're not really
01:24:11.189 --> 01:24:13.789
getting a lot of productivity out of them. So,
01:24:13.789 --> 01:24:15.569
we'll make it worth your while. I'd
01:24:15.569 --> 01:24:18.090
certainly rather spend money that way than on
01:24:18.090 --> 01:24:26.390
Israel. Yeah. I'm not against that, I
01:24:26.390 --> 01:24:29.699
suppose. But I want people to be able to go to
01:24:29.699 --> 01:24:32.829
school if they want to go to school. For
01:24:32.829 --> 01:24:34.649
example, a tech company. A tech company, there's
01:24:34.649 --> 01:24:37.210
a prerequisite of knowledge that you require
01:24:37.210 --> 01:24:39.770
in order to be able to get, let's say, a tech
01:24:39.770 --> 01:24:42.729
job. Okay, I want people to be able to get that
01:24:42.729 --> 01:24:44.489
prerequisite of knowledge. And I don't necessarily
01:24:44.489 --> 01:24:46.149
want to entirely leave it up to the company to
01:24:46.149 --> 01:24:48.649
create school in the company to do it. I
01:24:48.649 --> 01:24:53.579
don't know. Your point. A lot of what you learn
01:24:53.579 --> 01:24:56.100
in software is on the job because each company
01:24:56.100 --> 01:24:57.819
does it slightly different. They use different
01:24:57.819 --> 01:25:00.640
tools. One company will use VB.NET. Another
01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.920
company will use... And tech moves so fast that
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:05.560
what you learned two years ago, even at a great
01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:07.760
college, is obsolete by the time you graduate.
01:25:07.899 --> 01:25:11.880
True. Kind of, kind of, but not the skills. Can
01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.130
be. For example, if you lost, if
01:25:15.130 --> 01:25:19.090
you learn basic software and the company switches
01:25:19.090 --> 01:25:22.609
to a new software platform, you
01:25:22.609 --> 01:25:24.390
probably can learn it because the logic is going
01:25:24.390 --> 01:25:26.229
to be the same. The language and syntax is going
01:25:26.229 --> 01:25:28.010
to be different. The objects might be different,
01:25:28.010 --> 01:25:31.229
but the logic is the same. The logic is what you
01:25:31.229 --> 01:25:33.449
learn in school. The other stuff is what you learn
01:25:33.449 --> 01:25:35.130
in the company when you take on the job in the
01:25:35.130 --> 01:25:37.449
company, if that makes sense. We had a guy
01:25:37.449 --> 01:25:40.229
who came on to, I used to work in a company
01:25:40.229 --> 01:25:43.359
here in Richmond that was an automotive company,
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:45.659
and the guy came on. He knew nothing about the
01:25:45.659 --> 01:25:48.520
software. He understood software. He did software
01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:50.119
in the past, but he knew nothing about the new
01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:52.460
language, and it took him, God, took him months
01:25:52.460 --> 01:25:55.439
to get up to speed on the language. But the company
01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.470
trained him in the language, even though he knew
01:25:58.470 --> 01:26:00.489
the basics of software. That makes sense
01:26:00.489 --> 01:26:03.890
to me. But if he had to come on fresh and didn't
01:26:03.890 --> 01:26:07.810
know anything, that'd be rough. Yeah. When I worked
01:26:07.810 --> 01:26:10.439
at the bank, I only had a,
01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:11.960
I didn't even have a bachelor's degree at the
01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:14.600
time, and I didn't study economics anyway. But
01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:18.300
they hired an MBA from Wharton, and I was assigned
01:26:18.300 --> 01:26:21.180
to train her, and I just thought that was hilarious.
01:26:21.180 --> 01:26:23.960
Really? Three years. Three years of, well, because
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.119
I've been actually working as a banker. She
01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.079
just went to Wharton. That's not the same thing
01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:32.939
as working in banking. Right, right. But she had
01:26:32.939 --> 01:26:35.520
basics. She had prerequisite knowledge. Not
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:39.279
really. Not really. She was dumb. It was... No, she
01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:41.720
wasn't dumb. It's just that her education was
01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:45.640
completely irrelevant to the job. I see. So,
01:26:45.659 --> 01:26:47.560
okay. Well, I would agree with you. And I guess
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:49.439
it would depend on the job. Software is a little
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:52.640
bit different. I've never worked in a bank. Yeah,
01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:55.659
again, banking is always changing. There's
01:26:55.659 --> 01:26:58.020
always new financial instruments. There's always
01:26:58.079 --> 01:27:02.659
new things. Whatever. Thom Tillis,
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:04.539
this is just breaking on the Hill, Republican
01:27:04.539 --> 01:27:07.720
of North Carolina, became one of the first respondents
01:27:09.090 --> 01:27:13.029
about this live streaming of Fort Hood shooter
01:27:13.029 --> 01:27:17.210
Nidal Hasan. So this is a Republican from North
01:27:17.210 --> 01:27:20.770
Carolina, probably not a big socialist, a democratic
01:27:20.770 --> 01:27:24.329
socialist. Thom Tillis says, Hasan should face
01:27:24.329 --> 01:27:27.630
the death penalty, but making his execution public
01:27:27.630 --> 01:27:31.569
and streaming it, beyond disgusting. Public executions
01:27:31.569 --> 01:27:35.130
are what oppressive dictatorships like Iran and
01:27:35.130 --> 01:27:38.119
Afghanistan do. It should not be happening in
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:43.890
America. And Saudi Arabia. Yeah. It was like,
01:27:43.890 --> 01:27:47.649
let's not put out a U.S. ally. Right, right,
01:27:48.310 --> 01:27:50.310
right. Exactly. Yeah, Saudi Arabia had a guy
01:27:50.310 --> 01:27:51.909
chopped over the bone saw. Are you serious right
01:27:51.909 --> 01:27:55.069
now? You can say it wasn't public. No, it was
01:27:55.069 --> 01:27:58.449
sneaky, even though it was recorded sneakily
01:27:58.449 --> 01:28:08.119
by the Turks. Look, why is it that, okay, why
01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:10.760
is it that oppressive governments, as he pointed
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:13.760
out, and he's using oppressive as a negative, oppressive
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:15.439
governments, well, I guess oppressive government
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.539
is a negative by definition, but oppressive governments
01:28:17.539 --> 01:28:22.909
do this, but rational governments don't? We just
01:28:22.909 --> 01:28:25.729
kill them in private. Okay, what's the difference?
01:28:25.729 --> 01:28:28.989
Oh, here's Chris Murphy. Yeah, he's trying to make
01:28:28.989 --> 01:28:31.189
the argument that Chris Murphy, Democrat of Connecticut,
01:28:31.229 --> 01:28:33.649
who we talked about in a different context earlier,
01:28:33.789 --> 01:28:36.970
said, what is Trump mimicking ISIS executions?
01:28:37.109 --> 01:28:39.529
I understand in this country we have
01:28:39.529 --> 01:28:42.770
the death penalty, but public execution is medieval.
01:28:43.289 --> 01:28:47.609
This is just absolutely extraordinary, galling.
01:28:47.670 --> 01:28:49.789
No matter whether you support or oppose the death
01:28:49.789 --> 01:28:52.890
penalty, public hangings and executions, that's
01:28:52.890 --> 01:28:55.550
what America has become. That's what America
01:28:55.550 --> 01:28:58.890
has always been. Is it okay to kill somebody in
01:28:58.890 --> 01:29:01.720
private but not in public? That's the question.
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:05.250
Because you're still killing them. And I guess
01:29:05.250 --> 01:29:07.470
my argument is it's because you want to sanitize.
01:29:07.510 --> 01:29:10.090
You want to act like murder is not murder. I
01:29:10.090 --> 01:29:12.430
would say the same thing about
01:29:12.430 --> 01:29:15.470
processing meat. I think everybody who's
01:29:15.470 --> 01:29:18.109
into animal rights would agree with me that we
01:29:18.109 --> 01:29:20.909
should have that, factory farming, all of
01:29:20.909 --> 01:29:23.649
that, the execution of cows and pigs. That should
01:29:23.649 --> 01:29:25.810
all be something that's available on video for
01:29:25.810 --> 01:29:28.680
people to watch. And we should know
01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:33.479
how our food is processed and created and grown
01:29:33.479 --> 01:29:36.560
and killed. We should know these things.
01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:40.359
It's really crazy. Okay, so say what
01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:42.439
you want about a quote-unquote oppressive dictatorship,
01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:47.060
but in a country like
01:29:47.060 --> 01:29:49.659
Afghanistan, you do know where your food comes
01:29:49.659 --> 01:29:51.760
from because you've seen it. You've seen it being
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:54.720
killed. You do know about life and death. You've
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:57.500
seen dead bodies. It's possible in this country
01:29:57.500 --> 01:30:01.020
to live 80 years and never see a dead body.
01:30:01.020 --> 01:30:04.760
It's really, really, we live in a strange
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:07.960
society. Well, it's almost like you're trying
01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:12.859
to filter out pain in a weird way. But there's
01:30:12.859 --> 01:30:15.279
no way to filter out pain. There's no such thing
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:18.420
as safety, right? But it's like the state doesn't
01:30:18.420 --> 01:30:20.340
want people to see the state committing murder,
01:30:20.340 --> 01:30:23.079
and it's like the issue is the murder then. It's
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:27.020
not. Meaning the issue is not that it's public.
01:30:27.140 --> 01:30:28.460
The issue is the fact that you're killing somebody.
01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:31.800
Let's call it what it is. It's like, oh, this
01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:35.119
is grotesque. It's like, what's grotesque? Killing
01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:38.439
in public. It's like, so killing them in private
01:30:38.439 --> 01:30:42.460
is not. If killing them in private wasn't grotesque,
01:30:42.539 --> 01:30:45.539
then publicizing it would not be a problem. If
01:30:45.539 --> 01:30:48.479
something is happening in private, let's say
01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:52.119
a meeting of the U.S. Cabinet, okay, and then
01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:53.779
you decided to put a camera in there. You wouldn't
01:30:53.779 --> 01:30:56.220
say, okay, well, now putting a camera here is
01:30:56.220 --> 01:30:58.560
grotesque, because after all, all you'd see is
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:01.279
a bunch of boring white guys in suits sitting
01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:03.720
around drinking coffee and talking quietly. Right.
01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.659
That's not grotesque. It's the act that's grotesque.
01:31:06.800 --> 01:31:09.479
And that's what they're effectively saying. And
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:12.039
the mere fact that we're seeing it, I couldn't
01:31:12.039 --> 01:31:16.560
agree more. Yeah. It's like still killing. That's
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.789
right. But showing it as the problem. And it's
01:31:19.789 --> 01:31:21.170
like, are you serious right now? I remember when
01:31:21.170 --> 01:31:23.970
Tulsi Gabbard went to Congress and one of the
01:31:23.970 --> 01:31:26.409
Congress members basically said to her, paraphrasing
01:31:26.409 --> 01:31:31.300
the conversation, so you went to Syria. Yes.
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:36.239
And Tulsi Gabbard makes a point. We were supporting
01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:39.720
terrorists. And he made the point to her. I get
01:31:39.720 --> 01:31:43.119
that. But why did you say anything? Right. The
01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:44.600
issue is not that we were supporting terrorists.
01:31:44.859 --> 01:31:46.899
The issue is that we were, that you said something
01:31:46.899 --> 01:31:49.939
about it. And that always blows my mind,
01:31:49.939 --> 01:31:52.180
when somebody says so. It's like you're in trouble
01:31:52.180 --> 01:31:54.920
not because what you said is true. It's because
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:57.760
you said it at all. And the death is the same
01:31:57.760 --> 01:31:59.619
way, right? The issue is not that we're killing
01:31:59.619 --> 01:32:02.140
him. The issue is that you're showing it. It's
01:32:02.140 --> 01:32:04.399
like, no, dude, right? It's like revealing. I
01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:08.279
get that there's so, yeah, right. Look,
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:10.720
it's like Jeffrey Toobin masturbating
01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:16.899
on his, right, on his... Now, why is that outlandish?
01:32:16.899 --> 01:32:19.920
Let's... It's not just the fact that he showed his
01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:23.340
wee-wee to his colleagues accidentally. It's
01:32:23.340 --> 01:32:27.939
because masturbating is kind of unseemly, as
01:32:27.939 --> 01:32:30.840
we talked about previously. It just is. And so
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:34.000
when people see it, it's unseemly.
01:32:34.060 --> 01:32:37.399
It reminds me of when Dick Cheney
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:40.159
cursed on the Senate floor and people were like,
01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:42.720
you and I both know that. People in the
01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:44.720
corridors of power, they all curse like the day
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:46.560
is long, from the president all the way down.
01:32:46.619 --> 01:32:48.000
They're all like, fuck this, fuck that, blah,
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:50.739
blah, blah, blah, blah. They sound like me, basically.
01:32:52.279 --> 01:32:57.180
And so they all do. Bill Clinton did. LBJ
01:32:57.180 --> 01:33:00.819
did. Nixon did. They all did. Expletive deleted
01:33:00.819 --> 01:33:03.340
in the Watergate tapes over and over and over
01:33:03.340 --> 01:33:07.380
again. Right. Expletive deleted. It's like, okay.
01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:10.159
So the shock is not the fact that people are
01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.159
cursing. It's the fact that Dick Cheney did it on the Senate floor
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:18.520
in a public forum where people could
01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:21.439
hear it. It's silly. Either maybe he should
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:24.560
just not be. The outrage should be that he's cursing,
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.380
maybe not that, if there's going to be outrage
01:33:27.380 --> 01:33:29.579
about that, not the fact that he's doing it in
01:33:29.579 --> 01:33:32.800
public. Yeah, it's just, well,
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:35.819
it's like, we can't have the public see these things. And
01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.960
I get it. I want to sanitize Congress,
01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:42.100
kind of. Meaning, I like my right honorable
01:33:42.100 --> 01:33:43.899
gentleman. They do that because they don't want
01:33:43.899 --> 01:33:47.359
to start fistfights in Congress. It's not like
01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:49.119
in Taipei where they do it in the Taiwanese,
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:52.159
in certain countries they have fistfights.
01:33:52.220 --> 01:33:54.560
Yeah, Turkish parliament, they like the fistfights
01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.439
all the time, right? No, he's my right honorable
01:33:57.439 --> 01:33:59.180
gentleman. You treat people a particular way
01:33:59.180 --> 01:34:04.729
with the hope that form, function follows. That's
01:34:04.729 --> 01:34:06.989
part of my problem with John Fetterman, is that
01:34:06.989 --> 01:34:08.789
he doesn't have respect for the office that he
01:34:08.789 --> 01:34:10.970
holds and or for the institution that he serves
01:34:10.970 --> 01:34:13.470
in, or the people of the state of Pennsylvania,
01:34:13.470 --> 01:34:16.829
and he dresses like a slob. And look, you and I
01:34:16.829 --> 01:34:19.590
both know you behave differently when you dress
01:34:19.590 --> 01:34:22.590
like you are right now as opposed to
01:34:22.590 --> 01:34:26.250
dressing like Robby does. It's like, what
01:34:26.250 --> 01:34:29.590
is? If I go out into the world
01:34:29.590 --> 01:34:33.640
wearing a suit, I'm a more civilized person than
01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.300
if I'm just wearing shorts and a T-shirt. It's
01:34:35.300 --> 01:34:39.260
just true. I feel more civilized, and I feel like
01:34:39.260 --> 01:34:43.079
I'm sure you do. 100%. Yeah, it's like, I feel like
01:34:43.079 --> 01:34:46.340
I dress right. I feel different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:34:46.340 --> 01:34:48.720
It's like, I have, shout, I take my shower in a
01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:52.039
suit. Sorry, Robby, to use you as an example. Listen,
01:34:52.039 --> 01:34:54.619
I'm wearing my Bad Neighbors Make Good Fences
01:34:54.619 --> 01:34:58.539
sweater, so it's perfectly fine. I guess the
01:34:58.539 --> 01:35:01.090
thing is, is it a comfortable sweater for the
01:35:01.090 --> 01:35:03.789
winters of Montana? Oh, man, it's awesome. Me
01:35:03.789 --> 01:35:06.829
and Kizzy, on Monday, Monday through Wednesday,
01:35:06.949 --> 01:35:08.390
we're going to be camping over Glacier Park.
01:35:08.569 --> 01:35:10.930
It's going to be in the 20s and snowing. Very
01:35:10.930 --> 01:35:15.310
cool. It's going to be nice and cold. I guess,
01:35:15.449 --> 01:35:21.289
Ted, I've thought a lot about this. And I guess
01:35:21.289 --> 01:35:22.710
one of the reasons why I dress the way that I
01:35:22.710 --> 01:35:24.130
do, and me and Kizzy's talked about this, is
01:35:24.130 --> 01:35:26.770
wherever we go, unless we're going to church,
01:35:27.029 --> 01:35:32.029
you just dress like some hick. I said, it's true,
01:35:32.029 --> 01:35:34.409
and I thought a lot about it. It's because I don't
01:35:34.409 --> 01:35:38.789
want people to think I am civilized. Wait, said
01:35:38.789 --> 01:35:40.729
it again. You don't want? I don't want
01:35:40.729 --> 01:35:43.590
people to think I'm one of those pull-up, one
01:35:43.590 --> 01:35:46.069
of those people in polite society, one of
01:35:46.069 --> 01:35:50.739
those good civilized people. Well, I
01:35:50.739 --> 01:35:55.060
don't know. Well, no, here's where it comes
01:35:55.060 --> 01:35:57.859
from, because no, back when I
01:35:57.859 --> 01:36:02.109
was a kid, I was homeless. I went to a church on
01:36:02.109 --> 01:36:05.250
Highway 29 there in Escambia County, Florida,
01:36:05.470 --> 01:36:10.000
sat in the back, and an usher from the church asked
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:13.439
me to leave because my appearance wasn't adequate,
01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:15.960
and I stunk because I was homeless and eating
01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:18.460
out of dumpsters. So I went to a church to hear
01:36:18.460 --> 01:36:23.819
about Jesus, and I was asked to leave. And I made
01:36:23.819 --> 01:36:27.020
the, unless there is a dress code for a job that
01:36:27.020 --> 01:36:31.420
I'm involved in, I will never. I will never dress
01:36:31.420 --> 01:36:34.319
to impress another single soul. Take me as I
01:36:34.319 --> 01:36:39.829
am. No, I accept that. And so it's not under
01:36:39.829 --> 01:36:41.449
normal circumstances. Oh, yeah, no,
01:36:41.449 --> 01:36:43.989
yeah, no, I get it. Not mad. I think I get it.
01:36:43.989 --> 01:36:46.789
You're the sharpest myself, but look, for me, for me, it's a statement. I
01:36:50.149 --> 01:36:53.770
don't want ever someone to look at me and make
01:36:53.770 --> 01:36:55.850
the mistake to think I'm one of these
01:36:55.850 --> 01:37:00.369
upper crust. No. Republican suit-wearing sacks
01:37:00.369 --> 01:37:02.449
of crap who have done everything they possibly
01:37:02.449 --> 01:37:06.970
can to make people's lives a living hell for
01:37:06.970 --> 01:37:13.430
profit. Yeah. I am my own billboard. You're like,
01:37:13.430 --> 01:37:16.470
it's like the lyrics of Johnny Cash, is the man
01:37:16.470 --> 01:37:19.170
in black. Well, it's just, I guess like Bernie
01:37:19.170 --> 01:37:21.770
Sanders, the dude's never met a comb. I'll take
01:37:21.770 --> 01:37:27.319
it. Well, yes, I feel for him because, like him,
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:30.850
I have flyaway hair, very fine. The slightest
01:37:30.850 --> 01:37:34.510
breeze, it just goes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You'd
01:37:34.510 --> 01:37:36.489
be riding a car and your hair flaps. Don't do
01:37:36.489 --> 01:37:38.550
the comb-over, though. Just don't do the comb-
01:37:38.550 --> 01:37:41.850
over. I'll go short. I'll go like Robby, shave
01:37:41.850 --> 01:37:45.689
it all off, before I let it get to that.
01:37:47.050 --> 01:37:50.149
So, yeah, let's see if we have any comments here.
01:37:52.609 --> 01:37:58.039
Okay. Philip says, I think we'll win Robby over
01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:01.479
eventually. Robby's a good egg. Contemplative
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:04.600
Christian practice usually leads people out of
01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:12.329
hate. Under Enolo says, all Trump voters should
01:38:12.329 --> 01:38:15.390
lose the right to vote for good. Whatever, it's
01:38:15.390 --> 01:38:18.430
not a punishment. Voting doesn't matter. Dual
01:38:18.430 --> 01:38:22.289
Purpose, how about CEOs like Carol Tomé, who
01:38:22.789 --> 01:38:27.380
F's workers for a better profit margin? It ain't
01:38:27.380 --> 01:38:30.920
the government which suppresses wages. Well,
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:32.140
the government plays a role. That's entirely
01:38:32.140 --> 01:38:35.880
true. Even Sanders believes in
01:38:35.880 --> 01:38:38.279
borders, right? And he believes in borders for
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:40.979
the exact same argument that Robby makes. It
01:38:40.979 --> 01:38:46.039
does depress wages. For example, when unions
01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:49.520
are able to get increases in wages, it usually
01:38:49.520 --> 01:38:52.289
raises all of the other wages. By the same token,
01:38:52.310 --> 01:38:54.569
if things are depressing wages, then other wages
01:38:54.569 --> 01:38:56.470
by definition will also be depressed. I don't
01:38:56.470 --> 01:38:59.310
think it's a contradiction. I think both are
01:38:59.310 --> 01:39:02.750
true. A company is only going to pay you,
01:39:02.810 --> 01:39:06.619
ideally, what they can get away with paying you.
01:39:07.060 --> 01:39:09.560
Because workers are a problem for companies,
01:39:09.779 --> 01:39:12.699
because there's a contradiction in the fact that
01:39:12.699 --> 01:39:15.079
you have to pay them in order to get the profit
01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:17.159
from the company itself. And the company is always
01:39:17.159 --> 01:39:19.460
wanting to pay the worker as little as possible.
01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:21.880
And so, yeah, if you can get away with it, they
01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:23.739
try to get away with it. But I don't think it's
01:39:23.739 --> 01:39:25.600
as straightforward as it's just the company.
01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:29.170
I think it's both. By the way, minimum
01:39:29.170 --> 01:39:31.779
wage, right? When the government sets a
01:39:31.779 --> 01:39:33.340
minimum wage, companies are going to orient around
01:39:33.340 --> 01:39:35.140
the minimum wage if the minimum wage is higher.
01:39:35.739 --> 01:39:38.399
So it's not straightforward, just the company.
01:39:38.479 --> 01:39:43.020
It's both. I'm drafting, Robby. I have to go
01:39:43.020 --> 01:39:46.680
pee. I'll be right back. Okay. Go pee, Ted.
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:48.699
Wait, before you go pee, what was the other story?
01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:50.520
Oh. I was going to see what was the other story,
01:39:50.539 --> 01:39:53.479
but he was kidding. Yeah. Or do we have any comments?
01:39:55.039 --> 01:40:00.359
Let me see. I think it's just a lot of just psychoanalyzing
01:40:00.420 --> 01:40:05.939
Robby. So here's one. So Dual Purpose asks,
01:40:06.140 --> 01:40:10.119
Robby, how about CEOs like Carol Tomé who screws
01:40:10.119 --> 01:40:12.739
workers for a better profit margin? It ain't
01:40:12.739 --> 01:40:15.840
the government which suppresses wages. It's both.
01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:20.479
By definition, it's both. Government open-ups
01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:22.600
to borders allow the people to come in, whether
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:27.439
legally or illegally, that depresses wages. That's
01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:30.939
why, in terms of illegal immigration, I recommend
01:40:30.939 --> 01:40:35.920
sending people home, not put them in camps, don't
01:40:35.920 --> 01:40:37.680
do what Trump's doing, don't go around shooting
01:40:37.680 --> 01:40:41.520
people at a DoorDash in front of a Mexican restaurant.
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.199
And by the way, H-1B visas makes the point
01:40:44.199 --> 01:40:47.250
that much clearer. Right, of course it does. It's
01:40:47.250 --> 01:40:50.670
an economic thing. Pay him, I don't know, 15 bucks
01:40:50.670 --> 01:40:53.770
instead of paying him 30 for the job an hour
01:40:53.770 --> 01:40:55.989
that he's doing. Okay, what does it mean for wages
01:40:55.989 --> 01:40:57.710
for other people who could have been making the
01:40:57.710 --> 01:40:59.649
30 bucks? Means those people aren't going to make
01:40:59.649 --> 01:41:01.970
that money, and it means that from the standpoint
01:41:01.970 --> 01:41:05.869
of the industry itself, wages go down. Correct.
01:41:05.869 --> 01:41:09.270
That's why they do it. A hundred percent. And
01:41:09.270 --> 01:41:11.869
what would I do to the CEOs who do this
01:41:11.869 --> 01:41:13.729
kind of stuff? I've said it repeatedly. I'll
01:41:13.729 --> 01:41:17.350
say it again. I would exile them to Barrow, Alaska,
01:41:17.430 --> 01:41:19.630
where they would live out the rest of their
01:41:19.670 --> 01:41:23.470
mortal lives in the comfort of the Alaskan
01:41:23.470 --> 01:41:26.590
wilderness. I would go full Russian style. Aurora
01:41:26.590 --> 01:41:29.989
Borealis. Yeah. Just give them a sledgehammer.
01:41:30.090 --> 01:41:33.409
They go just chop rocks all day. Seriously. This
01:41:33.409 --> 01:41:37.539
is not lost on me. That's a good, Alaska is not
01:41:37.539 --> 01:41:43.229
that bad. That's not like Siberia. Me
01:41:43.229 --> 01:41:46.590
and Kizzy, once the kids are grown and graduated
01:41:46.590 --> 01:41:49.010
and stuff and gone, me and Kizzy are actually
01:41:49.010 --> 01:41:51.250
talking about maybe moving away from Montana
01:41:51.250 --> 01:41:53.229
and going up to Alaska. I've been looking at
01:41:53.229 --> 01:41:57.189
Anchor Point. Now, why Anchor Point? Why Alaska?
01:41:58.220 --> 01:42:01.340
It's right there on the Pacific. I grew up in
01:42:01.340 --> 01:42:04.819
the Redneck Riviera there on the Florida Panhandle,
01:42:04.880 --> 01:42:06.699
which is getting a little baby hurricane now,
01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:09.579
which is good on them. Go play in the wind. It's
01:42:09.579 --> 01:42:13.520
fun. But no, just...
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:16.060
It's category three right now, by the way. No, Montana is just...
01:42:16.060 --> 01:42:18.220
It's getting too full. We just have too many
01:42:18.220 --> 01:42:20.760
people coming here. And Alaska is nice, big,
01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:24.109
and empty. And that's what I want. And I was
01:42:24.109 --> 01:42:25.829
thinking about taking a... I ain't thinking about
01:42:25.829 --> 01:42:27.470
taking a vacation. I hadn't said anything, but
01:42:27.470 --> 01:42:30.229
I'm thinking about taking a vacation. Always
01:42:30.229 --> 01:42:33.670
a good idea. I don't know where. I thought about
01:42:33.670 --> 01:42:36.270
Fairbanks, Alaska, to see the aurora borealis,
01:42:36.449 --> 01:42:38.189
sitting in the middle of a campground watching
01:42:38.189 --> 01:42:40.229
the borealis. I want to be somewhere by myself
01:42:40.229 --> 01:42:41.949
in the middle of nowhere. That's what I want.
01:42:42.029 --> 01:42:46.189
I would prefer a cabin by a lake. Tell you what,
01:42:46.289 --> 01:42:49.470
JT, you come here. What I will do is I'll take
01:42:49.470 --> 01:42:51.569
you to the amphitheater there at Lake McDonald.
01:42:52.390 --> 01:42:56.470
And you can see it because it's a panoramic view.
01:42:56.550 --> 01:43:00.069
So you got the mountains and you have this massive
01:43:00.069 --> 01:43:02.970
lake. And you can see the Milky Way.
01:43:03.109 --> 01:43:06.810
There's no light pollution. And so don't go to
01:43:06.810 --> 01:43:10.819
Alaska. Come here. You can stay with me. I will
01:43:10.819 --> 01:43:13.479
give you the 50-cent tour, and that'll take you
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:15.939
to the Huckleberry Patch and feed you the best
01:43:15.939 --> 01:43:17.359
huckleberry ice cream you've ever had in your
01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:19.680
life. It'll slap your brains out with your tongue.
01:43:20.619 --> 01:43:22.979
Montana. I hadn't even thought of Montana. Come
01:43:22.979 --> 01:43:26.250
to Montana. Oh, Montana is stunning. I even thought
01:43:26.250 --> 01:43:30.529
of Utah. Utah has the... is it the desert
01:43:30.529 --> 01:43:34.369
or somewhere? But Utah's cool, but
01:43:34.369 --> 01:43:38.149
it's not pretty. It's more
01:43:38.149 --> 01:43:43.210
rugged and obviously dry and barren. But
01:43:43.210 --> 01:43:47.989
Montana is sweeter. Yeah, but
01:43:47.989 --> 01:43:51.430
just reiterate, and I'll go away. The illegal immigrants,
01:43:51.430 --> 01:43:54.510
I'm not mad at them. Listen, I get it. You're
01:43:54.510 --> 01:43:57.939
coming here for, I understand. I'm not that much
01:43:57.939 --> 01:43:59.819
of a heartless dick that I don't understand why
01:43:59.819 --> 01:44:02.020
they're doing what they're doing. Heartless dick.
01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:08.260
My contempt. My anger. My anger is for the people
01:44:08.260 --> 01:44:10.319
who enable it and then exploit these people.
01:44:10.539 --> 01:44:13.539
The politicians and the CEOs, they are the ones
01:44:13.539 --> 01:44:17.960
who I would exile to the tender arms of Barrow,
01:44:17.979 --> 01:44:21.590
Alaska. The migrants just get to go home. They
01:44:21.590 --> 01:44:29.500
get to go home. Okay, so Bad Cookies. Man, it's
01:44:29.500 --> 01:44:32.520
all about Robby today. Robby, you're telling
01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:34.020
me that if you were invited to the White House,
01:44:34.079 --> 01:44:35.920
you wouldn't wear a suit? Not even invited under
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:38.779
a Trump administration presidency. Just any president
01:44:38.779 --> 01:44:41.199
invites you to the White House. Are you wearing
01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:44.869
a suit? Are you? Are you? I'm pretty sure that
01:44:44.869 --> 01:44:51.409
I said if the dress code required. For
01:44:51.409 --> 01:44:56.270
example, later on, I don't have any kind of specifics.
01:44:56.369 --> 01:44:57.869
I'll go ahead and y'all get some breaking news
01:44:57.869 --> 01:45:01.789
now. Ted is going to be doing an interview with
01:45:01.789 --> 01:45:04.510
Dinesh D'Souza and some other people. And these
01:45:04.510 --> 01:45:07.390
interviews are going to potentially be live and
01:45:07.390 --> 01:45:10.170
in person. Depending on the venue, you have to
01:45:10.170 --> 01:45:13.829
dress professionally. If I go... Debate? I thought
01:45:13.829 --> 01:45:17.250
it was a debate, not an interview. No, you're
01:45:17.250 --> 01:45:18.729
going to... Oh, yeah, I'm going to be online.
01:45:19.489 --> 01:45:21.329
Oh, I didn't know you were going to be online.
01:45:21.470 --> 01:45:23.810
Where is it going to be? Don't know yet. Ted
01:45:23.810 --> 01:45:26.729
is going to be debating Dinesh D'Souza. Anywhere,
01:45:26.729 --> 01:45:32.300
anytime. Because I am representing an employer
01:45:32.300 --> 01:45:34.619
or someone that I work for, of course, I'm going
01:45:34.619 --> 01:45:36.619
to dress accordingly to the decorum that the
01:45:36.619 --> 01:45:39.439
job requires. I'm talking about going down the
01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:42.359
street. I'm not going to go and dress like some
01:45:42.359 --> 01:45:46.859
kind of a snob to try to impress some prick who
01:45:46.859 --> 01:45:50.520
I do not know. And lastly, if I was invited to
01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:52.380
the White House. Only impress pricks who you
01:45:52.380 --> 01:45:55.970
do know. A hundred percent. And if a president
01:45:55.970 --> 01:45:58.350
was ever dumb enough to invite me to the White
01:45:58.350 --> 01:46:00.470
House, I can assure you I would be escorted out
01:46:00.470 --> 01:46:02.810
after I called him a war criminal and confronted
01:46:02.810 --> 01:46:05.859
him on what they have done. That would be my
01:46:05.859 --> 01:46:07.880
first and last time ever going to the White House.
01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:09.760
I do believe that. Is it going to be in New York?
01:46:10.359 --> 01:46:13.119
Don't know yet. Because if this is, I kind of
01:46:13.119 --> 01:46:15.119
want to come. I doubt it'll be in New York because
01:46:15.140 --> 01:46:17.340
it's a very expensive place to get
01:46:17.340 --> 01:46:20.250
a stage. So I guess the question is. I hope it's
01:46:20.250 --> 01:46:21.850
not in New York. I want to travel. I want to
01:46:21.850 --> 01:46:25.350
go somewhere. Okay, is there any ideas for venues
01:46:25.350 --> 01:46:30.470
so far? None that I'm able to release. But
01:46:30.470 --> 01:46:32.590
we are working on this, and one of the things
01:46:32.590 --> 01:46:34.529
that the Freedom First Network is working on
01:46:34.529 --> 01:46:38.029
doing is having more in-person debates because
01:46:38.029 --> 01:46:41.310
they're just simply, well, they're better. They're
01:46:41.310 --> 01:46:44.029
better. They're more engaging. No, Jeff will be
01:46:44.029 --> 01:46:46.819
kind of, he'll be moderating, because some people
01:46:46.819 --> 01:46:48.380
like Dinesh are in love with the sound of their
01:46:48.380 --> 01:46:50.659
own voice and try to filibuster. So he'll make
01:46:50.659 --> 01:46:54.119
sure that that can't happen, so that way he controls
01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:56.520
the argument. Moderator will make or break an
01:46:56.520 --> 01:46:59.039
event like that. For sure. But no, it
01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:02.720
will be that. Wherever it is, let me know
01:47:02.720 --> 01:47:04.899
where it is. I want to. Ted Rall, your favorite
01:47:04.899 --> 01:47:09.289
communist, will be on stage, well dressed for the
01:47:09.289 --> 01:47:12.189
occasion, I promise, who is arguably one of the
01:47:12.189 --> 01:47:15.069
dumbest people in the Republican Party,
01:47:15.069 --> 01:47:17.390
and I'm looking forward to seeing Ted eat his
01:47:17.390 --> 01:47:20.449
breakfast. Yeah, you better eat him alive. I will
01:47:20.449 --> 01:47:25.119
take him seriously even if he doesn't take himself
01:47:25.119 --> 01:47:29.859
seriously. Okay, by the way, what's the debate
01:47:29.859 --> 01:47:33.720
on? Do y'all know yet? It's on geopolitics
01:47:33.720 --> 01:47:35.899
in general, right? Yeah, about the role of America
01:47:35.899 --> 01:47:38.600
in the world. Not in general. It's specifically
01:47:38.600 --> 01:47:44.619
about Israel, the value of the Israeli alliance
01:47:44.619 --> 01:47:48.319
to the United States. We can put that one to
01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:51.840
bed quickly. So basically, is the alliance with
01:47:51.840 --> 01:47:54.680
Israel in America's interests, or is Israel an
01:47:54.680 --> 01:47:56.479
albatross around the neck of the United States?
01:47:56.760 --> 01:48:00.640
Duh. And Dinesh is an arch-Zionist. He's kind
01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:02.380
of like a confused Catholic who thinks he's a
01:48:02.380 --> 01:48:04.479
Calvinist because he has no idea what the hell
01:48:04.479 --> 01:48:08.130
he is, except an idiot. And Ted is going to crucify
01:48:08.130 --> 01:48:12.029
him, and it's going to be amazing. So I, verbally
01:48:12.029 --> 01:48:14.489
and intellectually, it will be a death penalty.
01:48:14.489 --> 01:48:17.449
I will be cheering in the audience because I
01:48:17.449 --> 01:48:20.090
think, this, when Jake Uger went on, I forget
01:48:20.090 --> 01:48:21.729
where they were. I think he was at a Republican
01:48:21.729 --> 01:48:24.409
event, or I forget the name of the event, but it's
01:48:24.409 --> 01:48:27.149
like the Young Turks is in the audience. They're
01:48:27.149 --> 01:48:30.270
posting. But he's going to debate.
01:48:30.270 --> 01:48:35.029
I want to. No, no, definitely need that. Also, real
01:48:35.029 --> 01:48:40.210
quick before I go away again, today at 1 p.m.
01:48:40.210 --> 01:48:44.340
Eastern time, because even though Jeff Dornik
01:48:44.340 --> 01:48:47.979
is a right-winger, he's like me. He's a free
01:48:47.979 --> 01:48:49.899
speech absolutist and really going out of his
01:48:49.899 --> 01:48:51.600
way to try and build a network for independent
01:48:51.600 --> 01:48:54.199
media who have been silenced and shut down by
01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:58.159
Republican and Democrat administrations. Manila
01:48:58.159 --> 01:49:01.619
Chan, former RT host and co-host of the TMI
01:49:01.619 --> 01:49:06.319
show, will be interviewed by Jeff Dornik about
01:49:06.319 --> 01:49:08.300
the censorship that she has faced professionally
01:49:08.300 --> 01:49:14.779
and publicly by YouTube, the government, and
01:49:14.779 --> 01:49:17.140
everything else. So tune in for that. Freedom
01:49:17.140 --> 01:49:19.859
First Network is only on Rumble because YouTube
01:49:19.859 --> 01:49:22.640
will censor the hell out of it. Man, we're busy.
01:49:25.039 --> 01:49:29.189
We're busy people today. I don't know what you
01:49:29.189 --> 01:49:31.609
said, JT. Sorry, I kept talking over you. Sorry,
01:49:31.670 --> 01:49:34.170
go ahead. Oh, I thought Jeff was on Pickax.
01:49:34.439 --> 01:49:38.000
Yes. He's the CEO of Pickax, but he's also started
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.079
what he calls the Freedom First Network. And
01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:44.920
he has a sweet deal with Rumble. And so he's
01:49:44.920 --> 01:49:46.520
putting his money where his mouth is. He's not
01:49:46.520 --> 01:49:48.420
keeping it at all. He's investing in the network.
01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:50.239
He's bringing people who have been silenced.
01:49:50.460 --> 01:49:52.300
JT, he actually wants to interview you about
01:49:52.300 --> 01:49:54.880
aliens. I was down for it. Oh, about aliens.
01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:58.060
Oh, geez. Aliens. Because you hit me up and then
01:49:58.060 --> 01:50:00.659
you said he changed the date on it. I wasn't
01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:02.520
ignoring you. I just didn't see the message until
01:50:02.520 --> 01:50:09.539
later. No, you're good. Just because someone's
01:50:09.539 --> 01:50:11.300
to your right or just because someone's to your
01:50:11.300 --> 01:50:12.880
left does not mean that person is your enemy.
01:50:12.880 --> 01:50:14.699
There's a lot more that unites us than divides
01:50:14.699 --> 01:50:18.720
us. So don't fall for that lie. I've always felt
01:50:18.720 --> 01:50:23.039
that. I felt that way for a long time. So, yeah,
01:50:23.170 --> 01:50:25.670
so a lot going on, right? This morning,
01:50:25.670 --> 01:50:27.970
there was Jamarl Solo, which you could still
01:50:27.970 --> 01:50:30.729
watch and stream. There was this show, and then
01:50:30.729 --> 01:50:34.029
we've got DMZ coming up in nine minutes
01:50:34.029 --> 01:50:37.109
with, it'll be me hanging out with Steve
01:50:37.109 --> 01:50:40.770
Breen, and then one o'clock, Manila's on with
01:50:40.770 --> 01:50:45.869
Jeff, and then four o'clock, Robby's declaiming
01:50:45.869 --> 01:50:48.850
Bible studies. So with, and I'll be hanging out
01:50:48.850 --> 01:50:52.949
with that. So it's a big Friday. A lot going on.
01:50:53.050 --> 01:50:55.850
So hope you check out all or some of that. Thank
01:50:55.850 --> 01:50:57.529
you for doing that. Thank you for your support
01:50:57.529 --> 01:51:01.630
and all that. Yeah, for the Bible study, do
01:51:01.630 --> 01:51:03.550
it on the gaming channels. Just go to West Glacier
01:51:03.550 --> 01:51:05.729
Gaming over on YouTube, and it'll be 2 o'clock
01:51:05.729 --> 01:51:07.510
Mountain Time. Yeah, 2 o'clock Mountain Time,
01:51:07.609 --> 01:51:11.880
4 Eastern. That'll be fun. Yeah, what's the topic
01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:15.979
again? Oh, it's not controversial at all. I'll
01:51:15.979 --> 01:51:17.899
be making the biblical case for the death penalty.
01:51:18.939 --> 01:51:22.680
Mm-hmm. The Old Testament case, not the biblical
01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:28.359
case. Fuck the New Testament. No, Ted, I'm going
01:51:28.359 --> 01:51:30.680
to save it for that, but you, sir, are wrong.
01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:33.060
The New Testament. First time for everything.
01:51:33.939 --> 01:51:40.000
Well, listen, Ted, since I am married and you
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:42.479
were married, we both know that as married men,
01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:46.069
you're wrong more often than not. Only if you're
01:51:46.069 --> 01:51:48.609
married. Only while you're married. Then you
01:51:48.609 --> 01:51:52.130
get the I'm occasionally right badge back as
01:51:52.130 --> 01:51:54.390
soon as you get divorced. They hand that to you
01:51:54.390 --> 01:51:57.850
with your divorce papers. You would treat three-
01:51:57.850 --> 01:51:59.449
quarters of an inch of your penis. It's really
01:51:59.449 --> 01:52:04.449
nice. I am so looking forward to going camping
01:52:04.449 --> 01:52:06.149
with Kizzy because it's just going to be her
01:52:06.149 --> 01:52:08.489
and me. We're going to be out in the middle of
01:52:08.489 --> 01:52:11.250
nowhere, taking a couple of rifles in case a bear
01:52:11.250 --> 01:52:15.630
comes up. No cell phone service. Going to be
01:52:15.630 --> 01:52:18.960
epic. I'm still looking forward to it. It's going to
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:21.020
be nice. It's a little scary about the no phone
01:52:21.020 --> 01:52:23.500
service, though, right? Of course, obviously,
01:52:23.500 --> 01:52:25.760
there's, there was no cell phone service before
01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:28.100
there were cell phones anyway, right? Yeah, but
01:52:28.100 --> 01:52:30.899
I just kind of like, it is, it's a little
01:52:30.899 --> 01:52:33.199
unnerving nowadays when you're somewhere where
01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:37.100
it's like, oh, if a bear were to come, not
01:52:37.100 --> 01:52:39.420
that, by the way, anyone's going to come on time to
01:52:39.420 --> 01:52:42.659
save you from a bear anyway. But it's
01:52:42.659 --> 01:52:45.420
like, oh, there's a large creature here. Where
01:52:45.420 --> 01:52:50.899
are you? I'm near trees. I see mountains. Well,
01:52:51.020 --> 01:52:52.579
really, the whole reason why we're going
01:52:52.579 --> 01:52:54.600
someplace without cell phone service is because
01:52:54.600 --> 01:52:57.140
of me. In a lot of ways, I'm a workaholic.
01:52:57.159 --> 01:53:00.609
I don't stop working. And so the only way I can
01:53:00.609 --> 01:53:03.590
make myself stop and just pay full attention
01:53:03.590 --> 01:53:06.489
to her is either A, leave the phone at home,
01:53:07.140 --> 01:53:09.420
or go someplace where there's no cell phones,
01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:11.399
where there's no service. And here in northwest
01:53:11.399 --> 01:53:14.220
Montana, that's easy to do. I have a question
01:53:14.220 --> 01:53:18.260
for both of you. When there's no cell phone in
01:53:18.260 --> 01:53:22.159
the room. I have a question for both of you, though.
01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:25.899
So if you guys had, if you could have an all-
01:53:25.899 --> 01:53:28.859
expense-paid vacation anywhere in the world,
01:53:28.939 --> 01:53:33.289
let's say two weeks, three weeks, what would
01:53:33.289 --> 01:53:37.329
it be? What was your question? I'm sorry. I was
01:53:37.329 --> 01:53:40.060
reading the comments. I didn't hear you. If you
01:53:40.060 --> 01:53:43.300
were gifted a two- or three-week vacation anywhere
01:53:43.300 --> 01:53:45.539
in the world, all expenses paid, all you have
01:53:45.539 --> 01:53:48.659
to do is show up. Visas are all taken care of.
01:53:48.739 --> 01:53:50.460
All you got to do is show up. Where would you
01:53:50.460 --> 01:53:55.289
go? If it was me and Kizzy together, probably
01:53:55.289 --> 01:54:00.350
go to Europe. If it was just me by myself, I
01:54:00.350 --> 01:54:03.090
would go to the most rural village in Kazakhstan
01:54:03.090 --> 01:54:04.829
or China that I could and just be there for two
01:54:04.829 --> 01:54:11.779
weeks and just see how, just live there. That's
01:54:11.779 --> 01:54:17.189
good. We're in Europe. Russia. Oh, yeah, for
01:54:17.189 --> 01:54:22.670
me, 100% Russia. And for you, Russia? Yeah,
01:54:22.670 --> 01:54:25.409
I've never been. It feels weird working at Sputnik
01:54:25.409 --> 01:54:28.579
and never going to Russia. Yeah, and I will not
01:54:28.579 --> 01:54:32.520
lie, it's great. The thing is also, though, it's
01:54:32.520 --> 01:54:35.220
Russia is so massive and so diverse that
01:54:35.220 --> 01:54:37.489
it's kind of like... Which part matters? Where
01:54:37.489 --> 01:54:39.149
really matters. It's like saying, oh, I'm going
01:54:39.149 --> 01:54:40.949
to the United States. Yeah, but where? Moscow,
01:54:40.989 --> 01:54:45.739
St. Petersburg. I would hit the big spots. I
01:54:45.739 --> 01:54:48.180
would, and to be honest, even the war zone, because
01:54:48.180 --> 01:54:50.319
I want to see it. Yeah, I wouldn't go to the
01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:51.920
cities. I'd bring the war zone without seeing
01:54:51.920 --> 01:54:55.619
the war. I wouldn't go to the cities. I would
01:54:55.619 --> 01:55:00.460
take Kizzy to central Russia, one of the smaller
01:55:00.460 --> 01:55:04.079
towns. Yeah, just some place. I want
01:55:04.079 --> 01:55:06.539
to see the real country. I don't see Moscow. I
01:55:06.539 --> 01:55:08.000
don't want to go and see these
01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:09.800
big, if I went to China, I wouldn't go to
01:55:09.800 --> 01:55:12.420
Nanjing or wouldn't go to Shanghai or Beijing,
01:55:12.420 --> 01:55:16.140
because that's the ornament. That's the trophy.
01:55:16.140 --> 01:55:19.880
But I want to see the people. And so that's right.
01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:23.720
They're both, yeah, they're both important, I think.
01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:27.159
If I could, if I went to China, if it was just
01:55:27.159 --> 01:55:29.840
me, I would grab Mr. Li from the Rumble chat.
01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:35.470
I said, two weeks, take me on a tour. You may enjoy
01:55:35.470 --> 01:55:39.409
that too. It's like I'm seeing, oh, what is the
01:55:39.409 --> 01:55:43.369
thing? Angkor Wat. Thank you. Angkor Wat. And
01:55:43.369 --> 01:55:46.930
you get to see the countryside also.
01:55:46.930 --> 01:55:49.789
When I was there, I saw Angkor Wat that
01:55:49.789 --> 01:55:53.970
morning. And then I took a bike ride with a guy
01:55:53.970 --> 01:55:56.250
to see the countryside, people selling stuff
01:55:56.250 --> 01:55:59.930
just in the boonies of the place. It's wild.
01:56:00.149 --> 01:56:02.949
They have actual villages where people
01:56:02.949 --> 01:56:07.149
are sitting in huts selling food and candy.
01:56:07.869 --> 01:56:10.930
Totally. It's wild. I would love to do the Trans-
01:56:10.930 --> 01:56:16.109
Siberian Railway. Always wanted to. How long
01:56:16.109 --> 01:56:18.289
is that? Because that trip is like a month or
01:56:18.289 --> 01:56:21.329
something on the train. I looked into this. It's
01:56:21.329 --> 01:56:23.229
about two weeks. And there's two different ways
01:56:23.229 --> 01:56:28.569
to do it. There's a spur that, it's an option
01:56:28.569 --> 01:56:31.409
where you can go off and it leaves you in western
01:56:31.409 --> 01:56:34.670
China. A lot of people do that. Then the other
01:56:34.670 --> 01:56:38.270
spurs, it keeps going all the way to Vladivostok.
01:56:38.789 --> 01:56:44.750
I would prefer the Vladivostok approach. Bad
01:56:44.750 --> 01:56:46.909
Cookies said go to Ukraine. Here's what the tourism
01:56:46.909 --> 01:56:48.869
is, bombing there. That's what you're doing there.
01:56:49.609 --> 01:56:52.890
And Blake contributed $5 to your titty fund,
01:56:52.949 --> 01:56:58.869
Ted. Oh, man. We have to have a thermometer that
01:56:58.869 --> 01:57:00.989
shows how close we're getting. Getting there
01:57:00.989 --> 01:57:04.850
ever so slowly. Keep it coming, Blake. You're
01:57:04.850 --> 01:57:09.130
going to get your rocks off. You and Pete Hegseth
01:57:09.130 --> 01:57:13.010
will finally get to see what you've been wanting
01:57:13.010 --> 01:57:15.750
to see all these years. I've got to start to
01:57:15.750 --> 01:57:17.829
wrap up because I've got to prepare for a DMZ.
01:57:18.149 --> 01:57:21.569
DMZ America podcast coming up at 11 o'clock
01:57:21.569 --> 01:57:26.149
with guest Steve Breen. Scott is unfortunately
01:57:26.149 --> 01:57:29.149
off today. He's doing, I can't say what, but
01:57:29.149 --> 01:57:31.170
he's doing grandparent stuff. So it's very cute.
01:57:31.850 --> 01:57:33.850
I'm very jealous. I can't wait to become a
01:57:33.850 --> 01:57:37.590
grandparent. I keep telling my son, condoms
01:57:37.590 --> 01:57:41.470
are, condoms are gay. Don't, just,
01:57:41.470 --> 01:57:45.649
don't be irresponsible. We need, I
01:57:45.649 --> 01:57:50.510
need those grandkids. Just, whoever,
01:57:50.510 --> 01:57:54.970
choice of mom, not important. Mom used
01:57:54.970 --> 01:57:58.350
to say, just have the kid. I'll take it. That's
01:57:58.350 --> 01:58:01.649
kind of like how I feel. Yeah. Horses Are People
01:58:01.649 --> 01:58:03.949
wants to know when's the next podcast coming
01:58:03.949 --> 01:58:07.270
out. Today at 2 p.m. Mountain Time. Me and Ted,
01:58:07.369 --> 01:58:10.170
we'll be talking about the death penalty. The
01:58:10.170 --> 01:58:13.149
next podcast, the Bible podcast. Yeah. Oh, by
01:58:13.149 --> 01:58:15.689
the way, Robby, we need a, you don't have a
01:58:15.689 --> 01:58:19.270
logo for it. Do you? No. Can you, can I, do you
01:58:19.270 --> 01:58:21.170
mind if I take a shot at designing it?
01:58:21.369 --> 01:58:22.989
No, go ahead. Because I'm telling you,
01:58:23.029 --> 01:58:26.810
stick figures for me are hard. So I can do a
01:58:26.810 --> 01:58:30.069
little better than that. Yeah. Okay, cool. All
01:58:30.069 --> 01:58:32.920
right. All right, guys. All right, we're going
01:58:32.920 --> 01:58:36.880
to go ahead and raid into DMZ America. Thanks
01:58:36.880 --> 01:58:39.380
so much for joining us. Have an awesome weekend.
01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:43.300
It's almost 11 o'clock Eastern time. Tune in
01:58:43.300 --> 01:58:46.500
to Manila at 1 with Jeff Dornik. Tune in to
01:58:46.500 --> 01:58:52.430
Robby at 4 on Rumble and YouTube. And go check
01:58:52.430 --> 01:58:54.270
that out, and I'll be tagging along for that.
01:58:54.489 --> 01:58:59.710
We'll be back Monday at 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. for
01:58:59.710 --> 01:59:01.770
the full two-hour program. No, that's actually
01:59:01.770 --> 01:59:04.689
a lie. We have Monday off because of Columbus
01:59:04.689 --> 01:59:09.170
Day. No federal holiday, old Sputnik rules. So
01:59:09.170 --> 01:59:12.229
we'll see you Tuesday at 9 a.m. And there's
01:59:12.229 --> 01:59:15.810
no TMI next week. No TMI whatsoever next week.
01:59:15.850 --> 01:59:18.869
So skeleton crew next week. So don't miss it.
01:59:19.289 --> 01:59:21.689
All right, guys. See you later. Ciao. Bye, y'all.