Pete Hegseth faces increased scrutiny from media; Jeff Crank, Congressman-elect for CO-5

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This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Fighting for justice
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and the American Way in the US Supreme Court today,
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let's hope Tennessee wins will do a deep dive on
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that case. We have some pretty stunning audio for you
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as well from the US Supreme Court. Stunningly good on
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the part of Justice Alito and stunningly something on the
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part of some of the other justices today. So glad
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you are here, and you have to hear some of
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the rationale and argument from one of the attorneys who
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argued against the Tennessee band. Tennessee obviously trying to protect
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kids from these various forms of mutilation and distortion of
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their bodies. You know that's occurring right now, Tennessee trying
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to protect the kids. And of course the Biden administration,
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you know, is so wildly into all of this trans
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insanity that it's trying to strike down this Tennessee law.
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But one of the lawyers who argued today against the
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Tennessee ban is the first trans lawyer to ever argue
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before the US Supreme Court. Chase strang Gio is his name.
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Here's a bit of that sound.
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So the case comes at a time when twenty six
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states have passed laws restricting healthcare treatments for transgender youth.
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Thank you, According to a seeing in Anasis of data
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from the nonprofit think tank Movement Advancement Project, So how
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do you plan to argue before the US Supreme Court
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in a case that could have wind ranging implications beyond
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the state of Tennessee.
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Well, thank you for having me, Jake.
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And obviously this is a critical inflection point for transgender
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people across the country.
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We're coming off of.
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An election season where transgender people played an outside role
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in people's consciousness in terms of the way in which
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we were situated as a threat to others. And when
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we look at the map of states that ban this
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type of evidence based healthcare, we went from zero to
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that have these bands in twenty twenty to now more
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than half the country. So before the court tomorrow, the
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question is really a simple one as I see it,
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It's really this is a law that bands medical treatment
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only when it is prescribed inconsistent with an individual sex.
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Our argument is that that treats people differently because of
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their sex, and therefore the court has to treat it
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like all other forms of sex discrimination, and that's why
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it's unconstitutional.
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Well, first of all, it treats them differently because of
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their age. But then we get into these other issues,
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and keep in mind that if the Biden administration wins
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here and the trans lobby wins here, then that precedent might,
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depending upon how the Court worded it's ruling in the case,
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that that precedent might, then it just basically eviscerate, you know,
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any kind of limitations on where a man could go
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simply by saying I identify as a woman. I mean,
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it could have And I doubt very much the US
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Supreme Court is going to do this, since it's controlled
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at this point by a majority of folks who believe
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in interpreting the Constitution rather than making law. I don't think
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the Court's going to go there. But if it did
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what the Biden administration wants it to do, it would
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be potentially just a green light for virtually anything that
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some male.
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Says he believes it is a female.
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Would would want to do in terms of access to
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girls and women's showers and bathrooms and sports and everything else.
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I'm hoping and expecting that, you know, you have to
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be a little hesitant about reading the tea leaves in
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the Q and A in a Supreme Court hearing or
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a argument rather, but I am hopeful at this point
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reading what was said today, that there's going to be
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a majority to uphold this Tennessee ban. Let's go back
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to some more of the again. First transgender lawyer, biological
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female now identifying as male, who argued before the court today,
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seems like a nice person, I think, just just way
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off in the legal approach to this.
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So attorneys representing the state of Tennessee told the US
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Supreme Court, quote, if the government's theory holds, men who
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identify as women could claim constitutionally based access to women's bathrooms,
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women's locker rooms, and women's sports, excepting that theory would
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perversely erode women's rights and jeopardize landmark statutes protecting women's
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equal access to schools, winners, podiums, and beyond.
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What's your response to that.
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Well, I obviously disagree with that premise that allowing transgender
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women into women's sports or women's bathroom is a threat
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to women. But it is also not the question before
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the court in this case, and in fact, it is
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a totally independent question about whether a lot that band's
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medical care for transgender adolescence.
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Discriminates against people.
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Based on sex versus these separate cases that preceded any
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of these healthcare bands will continue.
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No, no, no, no, in my opinion, not and intellectually are honest
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argument he's making, because what the Biden administration is asking
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the court to do is to find that if you
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classify in a law based on trans status, that at
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that point you're classifying based on sex. That's the underlying
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legal foundation of what the Biden administration wants them to do.
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And if a Supreme Court was to go there and say, okay,
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any of these laws having to do with trans stuff,
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these are now classifications based on sex, then guess what
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that Then all of a sudden, you have to have
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the highest form of scrutiny, such as a law that
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would classify based on race. Of course, you should have
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the highest form of scrutiny. You shouldn't be able to
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classify based on race unless you can meet these very
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demanding criteria that are almost never met, these compelling state
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interest criteria. And so that's exactly exactly what the Biden
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administration's trying to do here is get that Supreme Court President.
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So any law addressing trans stuff gets that highest form
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of protected class status, strict scrutiny. That's exactly what they're
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trying to do. I don't believe for one second that
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this US Supreme Court is going to fall for that.
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What we'll do when we come back from the next
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break is we'll get you some sound. Justice Alito, absolutely
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brilliant today, will get you sound as well from Justice
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so to my or Justice Brown, Jackson, et CETERA very
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very interesting, compelling, and obviously very important. Right, there's the
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reason that Trump team spent over one hundred million dollars
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running that devastating ad against Kamala Harris, who is supporting
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trans rights, men playing women's sports and girls' sports, all
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of that sex changes paid for by taxpayers. Yeah, there's
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a reason trump'spent over one hundred million on it. You've
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got a lot of Americans across party lines who say,
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this is madness. How did we ever get this far
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down this road? No disrespect to trans people, no animosity.
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But this is insane. This is anti woman, this is
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anti girl. This craziness has to stop. That's where America's at.
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And I don't believe for one second this US Supreme
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Court is going to get this wrong. So we'll come back,
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we'll dig into that a little deeper before we hit
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the brake, though, I wanted to, you know, talk to
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you a little bit about what everybody's talking about today, right,
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no matter where they work or what they're doing or
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where they're going, which is you know who executed this
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ceo today, the United Healthcare CEO in New York. I'm
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sure you've probably seen that video by now, so I
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think it's one of those things that cuts through the
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noise in America, and it's just it's just unimagine what
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it's like a scene out of a movie.
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Right.
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The guy all dressed in black, and he's got most
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of his face covered but not all of it, and
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and you know, he's got the weapon that appears to
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have a silence or he waits for this CEO victim
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on a New York street to walk past him, he
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steps in behind him, starts shooting at him. Gun appears
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and completely ignores a witness standing a couple of feet
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away from him, gun appears to jam, appears to reload,
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and then complete the murder of the victim, and then
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walk away. Actually started running about halfway across the street
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as a backpack on the whole time, otherwise dressed in blacks.
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So who did it? Why did they do it? So
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we'll keep you up to.
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The minute if there's any breaking news on that, But
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I know it's at this point something being talked.
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About all across America.
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What's interesting to me, Ryan is and I understand why,
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you know, people just look at this and say, Okay,
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that's a professional. And I understand there were some what
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you would consider professional elements to this demonic behavior. But
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wait a second. The guy left the top half of
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his face uncovered. There were obviously cameras all over the place.
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No true professional does that, right unless that person wants
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to get caught.
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So what is really going on there?
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implications that arise from this. Before we come back and
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dive in all of that and so much more. Just
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want to say fascinating. The way we ended the show yesterday.
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A lady called up and was griping about the Avs
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being down four zip in the first period last night,
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and I just said to her, don't give up on them.
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They came back and one five to four. Wow.
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And a nice big win by the Nuggets last night
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as well. So this could be the night. This could
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be the night last night when things kind of stabilized and.
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Turned around for the Denver teams. Let's hope. So you're
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on the dan Kapla Show.
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And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcasts. Has I
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suppose it doesn't like to say I wanted to do?
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He said, keep going, keep fighting.
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Mind there in long way?
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Why would I act down? I'm here for yeah boy.
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I really hope Pete hag Seth gets confirmed. I'm not
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saying he would have been my first choice for first secretary,
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but he should be confirmed. President Trump won. He's entitled
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to his picks unless there's something grossly and blatantly disqualifying.
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If perfection is the standard, we can't have anybody fill
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any of those jobs. And we have seen the left
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over and over and over again, you know, starting with
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Clarence Thomas actually before that, just set out to personally
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destroy these conservative nominees just as part of the political
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blood sport. Now I want to see heg Seth confirm,
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just like Justice Kavanaugh. Remember I told you when he
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was nominated that I wasn't certain that Justice Kavanaugh was
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going to be the kind of a true originalist.
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You know, who we need on the court.
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But at a certain point that kind of information process
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became about much more in Justice Kavanaugh. It became about
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whether we were going to have due process in this country,
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whether you're going to be innocent until proven guilty. And
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one of the things I admire most about Trump is
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the way he stood up and fought for Kevanaugh and
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fought for a larger principle in the meantime, and he
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defeated the left on that, you know, political assassination attempt,
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and I'm so glad he did, And so I hope
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he stands by heg Seth as well. I'm not saying
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heg SA's perfect, who is right, but Trump is entitled
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to his picks, and we do not want to feed
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this beast. We don't want to feed this leftist beast
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of just going out and trying to personally destroy you know,
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Trump picks, you know, for the political blood sport. So yeah,
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I hope he gets confirmed. Listen, would I have loved
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to have seen Ron DeSantis initially in that position. Of course,
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now I'm not at all sure that DeSantis.
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Would take it.
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Now you're aware of the stories today that Trump may
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turn to him if he Seth can't get through. I'm
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not at all sure DeSantis would do that because he's
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going to be running for president very soon, right. I mean,
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he's quietly running now, but it's going to be openly
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running in a couple of years, and so all of
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that could become an issue. Eight five for zer five
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A two five five the number.
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Glad you're here.
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We're talking about this enormously important US Supreme Court case
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heard today us fe'st. Gurmeti and whether Tennessee's law protecting
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children from this so called gender affirming care and many
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states now I think it's up to twenty five or
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twenty six have laws like Tennessee's. Whether those laws are
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going to be upheld. I believe this court will uphold Tennessee.
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But you've got this overarching bigger issue, and what the
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Left is trying to do with this Tennessee case is
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trying to set this precedent that any law touching on
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transgender rights is sex based classification. Because if they can
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get that precedent, then the only way that you could,
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you know, over turnal laws say favoring trans rights would
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be defined compelling state interests to do so. And that's
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a very very high, this heightened scrutiny standard, very very
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hard to meet. So that's what you know that the
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Left is really trying to accomplish through this case. I
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think the left has proven over and over again it
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doesn't care at all about the health and welfare of children.
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is individuals, and I'm sure they're great mothers and fathers
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and everything else, but when it comes to other people's children,
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and it comes to children in general, they're clearly acceptable
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casualties in the eyes of the left. And you just
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look at their various policies and it confirms it to
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the extreme, starting with abortion right, all these where you
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lose what about a million kids a year in America
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killed before birth and you get four or five blecks
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to everyone.
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Killed before birth. Horrific.
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One of the most terrific racist in effect laws imaginable,
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and the Left worships it. Yeah, So no children are
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acceptable casualties to the Left for their bigger, broader policy interest.
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with in America today. And that includes kids who believe
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they're the other gender, or have been convinced by adults
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they're the other gender, or it's kind of the cool
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thing now to say you're the other gender. Whatever it is,
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each and every one of these kids, my heart breaks warm,
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and they need the proper kind of true gender affirming
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care because what a backwards term. Real gender affirming care
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is care that comforts and aids these children in their
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confusion and in their distress by confirming their true gender
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and then dealing with other issues in the best ways possible.
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on the opposite eight five five zero five eight two
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I don't know if you are a prayer, Ryan, Are
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you a prayer?
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You know I should pray more. Let's put it that way.
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Okay, is it like only during the super Bowl when
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it's like got three and a half points spread?
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it's a wonderful life when Jimmy Stewart he's really hit
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dire straits and almost rock bottom and he's never a bridge.
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Hold on, whoa, whoa? You've never seen it's a wonderful light.
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You have seen it. I'm a busy guy. Every time
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I came out in nineteen forty six, I've been busy.
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At first, I wasn't even born, so I was busy
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not being more hopefully being an angel in heaven or something.
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But you no, I've always make it a point to
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go see it and then something comes up, but please
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go ahead.
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Any well, there's a scene he's at a bridge. It's
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a turning point in the least. I won't spoil it
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for you since you haven't seen it, but he's desperate
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and he goes. I'm not a praying man, but I'm
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praying to God right now, show me the answers or
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show me the way. And I think God has mercy
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in those cases. But I would feel I think if
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I prayed more, and not just when I desperately needed
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God's help.
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Well, so you've never been on a flight with turbulence.
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I have prayed in certain like that. Yeah, that's so.
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I'm sure you've gone a.
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Lot of people have started their prayer.
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Life when you lost your parents.
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With major turbulence.
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Oh yeah, and when I lost my mom. I mean,
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you're you're praying at the time, you know.
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Oh, there is no doubt about that.
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And and the only reason I ask is because anybody
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who believes in prayer today, please pray for the acquittal
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of Daniel Penny. Absolutely, New York, pray for the acquittal
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of Daniel Penny. He's obviously innocent, but but way beyond that,
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the ramifications for him as a guy who stepped in
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to protect others start with that, the ramifications for the
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city of New York, the ramifications for the country. I'm
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not saying there be a kind of violence in the streets,
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none of that nonsense. But it will be a real
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another major wound to justice in America and respect for
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the system if Daniel Penny is convicted. Any such conviction
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would be obviously wrongful, never should have been charged. And
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I hope that if he is as he should be acquitted,
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I really hope that that he then goes on to
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great things and many great opportunities are provided for him,
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and he's hailed as the hero that he really is.
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And you work with jury's and I think this is
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an easy one. If you're on that jury, you got
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to be thinking to yourself, if myself and my girlfriend
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were on that subway, would we want Daniel Penny stepping
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in to stop that guy in the answer is yes, yeah.
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And listen, you won't find a guy with more respect
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for juries than me. I start another jury trial Tuesday.
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But the point being that this is New York. Trump
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just got convicted in New York on an obviously politically
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motivated charge. Anything can happen, right, So that's why even
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though it's a small chance of a conviction, it's a
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small chance of something really bad. So that's what gets
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you concerned. But let's pray for an acquittal for Daniel Penny.
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cuveny thoughts on what you think happen there in New
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York with this brutal assassination execution of that CEO right
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out in the open on a New York street with
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people standing around, and are there broader implications broader ramifications
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Pete Hegseth.
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I really want to see him confirmed for the reasons
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I mentioned.
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What do you think about that? And then we'll talk
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about the latest with insurrection.
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Mike in Denver.
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You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. Well, I've
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just given what one he's on camera.
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If you're too drunk for Fox News, you're very, very drunk, indeed,
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And listen.
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I want to see Pete Hegseath confirmed. And I think
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he's getting kavanat right now. And I'm glad Trump is
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standing up to this tactic from the left. But that
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was one of the great lines ever. Right, If you're
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too drunk for Fox News, you're very drunk indeed. Eight
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five five for zero five eight two five five the
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number I think Hegseth is being smeared. None of us
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are perfect. That shouldn't be the standard or else only
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the good Lord could serve in the cabinet, and it
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certainly hasn't been the Democrats standard. Listen, all these Democrats
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now running around smearing Hegseth is some kind of drawn coe.
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He's impaired by alcohol. Look at what they've been doing
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that they have been actively backing and endorsing and supporting.
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Having an obviously severely impaired person in the White House
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is President of the United States. There can be no
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doubt Joe Biden is impaired. Hey, let's go to the
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VIP line and what an impressive congressional class of conservatives
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Colorado sent to DC and just I think a turning
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point kind of election in Colorado. One of those stars,
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of course, is Jeff Crank from the fifth CD kind
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enough to join us. Jeff, welcome back to the Dan
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KAPLI show.
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Dan, thanks for having me over. It's a pleasure to
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be with you.
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Well, thank you. And I know that you won't be
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voting on the confirmation. But do you think hagg Seth
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should be confirmed?
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Yeah? I do. First of all, I know Pete hag Seth.
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I worked with Pete a little bit at Concerned Veterans.
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He was at Concerned Veterans for America, I was Americans
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for Prosperity. He led that organization for a while and
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it did a great job when I when I knew him,
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I don't know him since he became the big star
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on Fox News and all of that I haven't sort
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of kept up. But the Pete Haig stuff, I know
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was a good man, committed to America and to standing
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up for it. And so look, I mean I don't,
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as you said, I don't have a vote, but I
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think the Democrats are you know, this is their t
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this is their playbook, right. They did it at Kavanaugh,
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They've done it to others. When they don't want someone confirmed,
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they try and take a scalp and look, you got
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to come forward with lots of evidence and proof. I'm
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not willing to just defend someone because they're a Republican.
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There's plenty of times where I've opposed to someone without
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fay for integrity to be confirmed. But the President of
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the United States has the right, just like Joe Biden did,
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to have people serving in their cabinet that they want
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to serve. And you know, there were lots of Republicans
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who voted to confirm all or most of Joe Biden's cabinet,
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and that's the way it should work.
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No, that's right.
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And I think there's, like with Justice kemanaw a bigger
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issue now that's come into play, and that is Wait
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a second. Are we going to have innocent until proven guilty?
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Are we Are we going to have a president presumptively
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gets their picks unless there's some gross disqualifier. Are we
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going to let the Democrats, now, you know, set this
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precedent where if they howl and scream enough, they're able
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to run good people out. And Jeff, one thing I'm
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concerned about, and you know, with the Kamanah example, the
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Hegseth example, is you know, intimidating talented conservatives from getting
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involved in politics and then being willing to step up
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for these positions. I think that's part of the left's
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playbook and I think they try to scare a lot
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of people, a lot of conservatives out of getting involved.
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Yeah, I think that's right. And you know, if we
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didn't learn anything from Judge Kavanaugh, I look at that
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whole thing that happened. I mean, if you go back
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even to Judge Bork, right, yeh, they were successful in
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borking Judge Bork. Thankfully, they were not successful in borking
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Judge Kavanaugh. If those tactics work, they will do it
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every time to try and stop someone that they don't
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that they just don't like, politically, we can't allow that
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to happen because then it's chaos. Then presidents don't get
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the pleasure of serving with the people that they choose
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to serve with, and the whole constitution falls apart, right.
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And I'd extended a step. And when it comes to
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President Trump, one of the I think his finest moments
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was standing behind Justice Kavanaugh and then he won that,
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which I think had benefits far beyond Justice Kevanaugh turning
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out to be great Justice. Conversely, if unless there's something
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way beyond what we've heard so far in heg Seth,
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if he was to back off heg Seth right now,
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I'm afraid that would dent this tremendous kind of superpower
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he has right now, which is that of a fighter.
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Right and you can see, you know, you see it.
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You're back there in DC. You see the peace and
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stability he's already bringing to the world just through deterrence.
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Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I totally agree. And you know,
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I think the president's got to always be smart. Not
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this I'm not talking specifically about Trump, but any president
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only has so much political capital to burn. I think
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President Trump has a ton of it, right, now, and
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he should be very cautious to not burn that. But look,
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he has to stand up. But I think you're right.
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That was one of his finest moments when he stood
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by Judge Kavanaugh to become Justice Kavanaugh, and it paid off.
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And those tactics didn't work, then we can't let them work. Now.
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Hey, what's it.
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Looking like for your GOP majority? I saw something yes
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to day where it might be for a little while
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a single seat.
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How's that going to work?
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None of us can get a cold. Dare we better
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wash our hands? Yeah, Look, it's going to be tight.
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And you know, the President pulled a few members from
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the House. Of course, the speakers working with President Trump
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to make sure that we keep that majority. As you know,
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being the great constitutional lawyer that you are, that these
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have to be filled by special elections for House seats,
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and so it takes time to do that. It can't
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be just an appointment by the governor like it is
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in the Senate. So it takes time. We've got to
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be really careful. He can't pull more people out of
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the House or we won't have a majority. And so
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it's going to be a balancing act. But I will
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tell you. I was very heartened. I was back for
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a couple of weeks going into orientation. We had a
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had our leadership elections for the House Republican Caucus. There
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was not a fight over who should be the speaker.
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Nice Speaker Johnson was re elected unanimously. There's no one
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that ran against him. And President Trump showed up at
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that caucus meeting and said, Mike is my guy. They
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are working together and that's a great thing. We need
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to carry that as long as we possibly can.
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And I'm glad to see it. I'm really intrigued by it.
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I mean I had the privilege of interviewing that the
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Speaker during Gabe's campaign and came away just really impressed
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with him. But how do you think that friendship became
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so close between the Speaker and President Trump. Great thing
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to see, but you wouldn't think from day one, maybe
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the most obvious couple.
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Yeah.
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I am intrigued by Mike Johnson to the point, like
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I will tell you, I walked away from all of
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my meetings with him thinking this has to be the
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finest man in Washington, d C. I mean, his character,
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He's just a man of character. It's just that simple.
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He is a good Christian man. You know, I don't
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know if I get in trouble for telling these inside stories,
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but I'll tell you. He brought all of the the
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Republican freshman into his office. He pulled out his Bible
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and he said, if you use this as your guide,
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and you treat people fairly, and when you have a
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problem with someone, you know, the Bible teaches us that
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you should go directly to them. You shouldn't go talk
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behind their back. If you follow the principles in here,
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you'll be very successful on Capitol Hill. If you don't,
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you'll have problems. That's the kind of man Mike Johnson is.
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I think he continues to try and sort of witness
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to President Trump. I think, you know, every time I
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talked to him, he talks about well, you know, I
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called him after this, after the assassination attempt and I said,
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mister President, you know you don't you didn't just move
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your head. I mean, this is this is like a
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moment that God, you know, you're they're part of a
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bigger plan. So he's always trying to kind of witness
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to the president on stuff like that. That's who Mike
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Johnson is at his core, he's just a good and
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decent man, and he sees this as our moment right
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to save a union, to save a country from financial
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collapse from the enemies that are that are outside looking
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at us. And so I think he sees this as
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the moment to help President Trump get his agenda through.
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And I'm really heartened by where we are right now.
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Well, if he's going to get in trouble for pulling
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out the Bible, they're going to have to tear down
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the statues of the founders, right, So I think he's
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safe on that count. Jeff Crank, our guests, Hey, I
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hope we can do this often because obviously there's going
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to be a lot of excitement. I think starting early
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in the term. When is the formal.
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Swear name.
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For me? It's January third at noon, okay, And so yeah,
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for the new Congress, we all get sworn in on
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that day, and then of course we have what two
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and a half weeks, and then of course the new
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president gets sworn in, so very exciting times.
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Well, Hey, congratulations and great things ahead. And appreciate the
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time today.
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Dan, anytime. I love again, have great admiration for you,
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and I have for many years and what always welcome
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the opportunity to come on and talk with you.
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Thanks much, sure do appreciate that you take care, Gibett.
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It is Congressman.
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Elect Jeff crank A five five four zero five two
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five to five the number text d A N five
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seven seven three nine. When we come back, When we
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come back. What do you think really happened with that
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execution of the CEO in New York? And I want
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to give you some amazingly compelling sound from this critical
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US Supreme Court or a argument today you're on the Dan.
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Kapla Show.
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And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
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Justice Soto my or today, I cannot eliminate the risk
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of detransitioners. So it becomes a pure exercise of weighing
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benefits versus risk, and the question of how many miners
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have to have their bodies irreparably harmed for unproven benefits
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is one that is best left.
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I'm sorry, Counselor. Every medical treatment has a risk, even
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taking aspirin.
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Oh my lord, yeah, I did not see that one
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coming from Justice out of my art today. I mean,
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and obviously the comparison to in this case chemically altering children,
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blocking puberty, now chemically altering children so that boys become
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girls and girls become boys. I don't think that's a
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fair comparison to to taking aspirin. But let the rest
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of that continue.
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There is always going to be a percentage of the
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population under any medical treatment that's going to suffer a harm.
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So the question in my mind is not do policymakers
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decide whether one person's life is more valuable than the
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millions of others who get relief from this treatment. The
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question is can you stop one sex from the other?
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Eight five to five for zero five two five to
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five the number Justice Alito today. I saw a columnist
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today after his another just tremendously inspiring performance on the
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bench today, call him one of the greatest living Americans.
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And now you may have called him the greatest living American.
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He's right up there. I think he's got to be
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in the top five. And here's part of what Justice
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Alito had to say today during this oral argument, a.
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Question about the state of medical evidence at the present time.
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In your petition, you made a sweeping statement which I
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will quote, overwhelming evidence establishes that the appropriate gender affirming
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treatment with puberty blockers and hormones directly and substantially improves
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the physical psychological well being of transgender lessons with gender dysphoria.
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That was in.
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November twenty twenty three. Now, even before then, the Swedish
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National Board of Health and Welfare wrote the following. They
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currently assess quote that the risks of puberty blockers and
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gender affirming treatment are likely to outweigh the expected benefits
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of these treatments, which is directly contrary to the sweeping
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statement in.
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Your petition, Justice Alito continues.
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After the finding of your petition, of course, we saw
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the release of the CAST report in the United Kingdom
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which found a complete lack of high quality evidence showing
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that the benefits of the treatments in question here outweigh
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the risks, and so I wonder if you would like
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to stand by the statement that you made in your petition,
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or if you think it would now be appropriate to
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modify that and withdraw the statement that there is overwhelming
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evidence establishing that these treatments have benefits that greatly outweigh
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the risks from the dangers.
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I of course acknowledged Justice Alito, that there is a
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lot of debate happening here and abroad, about the proper
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model of delivery of this care and exactly when adolescents
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should receive it, and how to identify the adolescence for
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whom it would be helpful.
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Now, it doesn't sound like a lawyer at all, does it.
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And this continues, but on page one ninety five for
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the CAST report, it says there is no evidence that
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gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide.
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What I think that is referring to is there.
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Is no evidence in the studies that this treatment reduces
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completed suicide. And the reason for that is completed suicide. Thankfully,
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and admittedly it is rare, and we're talking about a
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very small pop releation of individuals with studies that don't
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necessarily have completed suicides within them. However, there are multiple studies,
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long term, longitudinal studies that do show that there is
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a reduction in suicidality, which I think is a positive
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outcome to this treatment.
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Justice Alito magnificent today, because no matter where you come
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down on all of this, you got to have the
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truth out there, you got to have the truth on
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the table. And Justice Alito doing a great job of
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interjecting that today. By the way, the last voice you
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heard was the first trans lawyer to argue before the
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US Supreme Court of biological female identifying as male. Chase
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strained you, so we'll play some more of that sound later.
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Promise to keep you up to speed on anything new
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on this horrific assassination on the streets of New York
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today of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. New York Post
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story just breaking. United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was facing
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DOJ probe for insider trading when he was killed in
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targeted New York City shooting. United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson
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was one of several senior executives at United Healthcare under
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investigation by the Department of Justice when he was gunned
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down outside of Manhattan hotel on Wednesday. Thompson was killed
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in what police called the targeted shooting outside the Hilton
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Hotel in Midtown. Exercised stock options and sold shares worth
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fifteen point one million on February sixteenth, less than two
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weeks before news of the federal antitrust probe went public.
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The stock price dropped sharply after the revelation that the
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DOJ was investigating whether the company made acquisitions that consolidated
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its market position and violation of antitrust laws.
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So that the latest bit of information there Wow.
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When we come back, Yeah, and if anything new comes
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out on that. The Daniel Penny, please pray for the
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acquittal of hero Daniel Penny in New York that jury,
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that trial goes on right now. There has not been
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a verdict jet. The jury is in the process of
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deliberations when.
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We come back. A lot of ground to cover here.
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I want to get you some more sound from the
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Supreme Court argument and why I think Trump needs to
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stand by Pete Hegseth